Re: [Cooker] need for root password
Le mar 05/08/2003 à 10:54, Buchan Milne a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > > > > The pb seems to be that when launch with sudo, kups try to make DCOP > > socket as root but in the home directory of the user, but as on NFS > > share root <=> nobody , no way. When i launch kups after a su, it create > > the DCOP in the root directory, when the user launch the sudoed kups, it > > take this DCOP or at least is able to run. > > So, does it work via 'sudo su ...' ? wil; have to try, but sudo will apply his rule to ... su and not kups ... and su will ask me a pass, and as i don't want that someone could just su without password ( if i configure su without pass as root in sudo ) ...
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
Le lun 04/08/2003 à 14:06, Lyvim Xaphir a écrit : > The lack of choice in the matter is what pisses people off. It's the > whole reason why there have been other problems elsewhere, like the > rpmdrake fiasco. 200% agree with : " - this say I need this, I do it install it ? - go to rpmdrake ... no MCC -> Software -> Install software and look for this package - can't find !!! - check if you can find it in Remove software ( and cross your fingers hoping it will not deinstall it ) " > If I want to run kdm, I don't want the system telling me I can't > uninstall mdkkdm because some marketing psycho freak at Mandrake thinks > mdkkdm will be good for advertising. the inabilty to deinstall mdkdm is weird. mdkdm seems to rely a lot on kdm ( config file ) so you have a direct dependance between them. Mdk tools should be as neutral as possible.
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
Le lun 04/08/2003 à 11:34, Buchan Milne a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > > Le dim 03/08/2003 à 19:53, Dave Cotton a écrit : > >>So the problem for me, from the last time I updated and allowed mdkkdm, > >>was that it defaulted to showing all the logins, a ridiculous situation > >>on a machine with a large number of users. This machine has standard > >>security level. > > > > Is the fact that you run a machine with a large number of users in > standard security level not the ridiculous situation? not really. It depens on the pb you are facing and your needs/contraints. > > IMHO when using NIS/LDAP/Samba auth, all dm should default too "no users > > list" > > Is it not better to default to msec 4 in any network auth setup? This > gets you a few other features which may be useful (restrictions on su etc). that's the pb, ... to many restriction on level 4 for me, and if I have to customise the level ( and lost the config when I upgrade msec ) for each machine it's a pain for me. > IMHO, a good default sudo config would also help in these situations (ie > allow member of adm group to 'sudo /sbin/service' with (without?) password. When I installed the network I wasn't able to use correctly sudo. Now i can use it well.
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
Le lun 04/08/2003 à 11:29, Buchan Milne a écrit : > Well, then you must be using LDAP or NIS, so you should put automount > maps in LDAP or NIS, and drakauth should add nis/ldap to the automount > line of /etc/nsswitch.conf (which I will try and look at today). > > Then, you *never* have to worry about NFS mounts, they will be > automatic. You see, instead of making it easy for a user to log in as > root to do tasks, we must remove the necessity for them to do the tasks ... I will have to see how to do this. I'm using an NIS network.
Re: [Cooker] MdkKDM
Le lun 04/08/2003 à 11:10, Buchan Milne a écrit : > > > > huh ! I'd rather use gdm : beautiful, beautiful, and ... beautiful and > > this even all the users in my network use kde. Yes they use kde but log > > with GDM ( right tools for the right things ). > > > > And then KDE logout only gives them the "logout" option That's not an issue for me. I don't care as I'd rather have them to logout and reboot that hit reboot by mistake. > restart/shut down ... so is it the best tool for KDE users (or is > fashion more important than function ...). > > > kdm is fine ( not buggy as mdkdm ) but not enough beautiful. > > And this is the most important aspect? yes. gdm allow them to log in, reboot ( even if most of the time I say "no need to reboot" ) and ... is beautiful. So this is thye point that make me made my choice. When you convert people form win to linux, sometimes you need bells & whistles. Now I have to learn how to do a gdm theme so that I can provide a fully personalized theme for the societe( logo, slogan, color chart, ... ) > >> perhaps they want to add an XP-style flowers-on-the-background user list > > > > may be fine, but at this moment mdkdm is buggy as hell and ... > > Nice bug report ... if we have missed something (besides erratic > behaviour of reboot options which I wil add) in the analysis of mdkkdm: > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/AnlysisOfMdkkdm > please add your comment, or file bug reports on mdkkdm. > > "mdkkdm sucks", "mdkkdm is buggy", "I detest mdkkdm" are not useful bug > reports ... you're i do apologise. Tha talk is interesting even if I can't see the point of mdkdm. It follow kdm config, so ,may have same limit than kdm, for others things should implement gdm behaviour ( compatible for kdm ? same option in kdm ? available in kdm ? ). If I where mdksoft I will better try to add svg support to kdm, unified gdm/kdm theme, and provide a common beautiful theme for both.
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
Le lun 04/08/2003 à 03:15, Ken Thompson a écrit : > I think something along this line is what I was trying to get accross.. I > wasn't at all emotional, just pointing out that many others don't like mdkkdm > and that I personally detest it. NO, the reason I detest it is not because I > can't log in as root automatically, I very seldom log in as root, BUT I want > the choice. There are times when logging in as root can make things much > simpler than trying to remember the CLI command for a given program and > having to Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in as root, init 3 and startx is way too much > trouble.. Simply being able to log out of KDE and relogin as what ever user > I choose, root or otherwise, is in my opinion a better way to use the > flexibility of Linux.. use su. But it's a good point. I set up several workstation and /home is an NFS share. So as during isntall I can't specify NFS share, I have to log with the user with a local account, and the only one is ... root. Or else I have to manually edit fstab or launch diskdrake in console ...
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
Le dim 03/08/2003 à 17:41, Buchan Milne a écrit : > On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Ben Reser wrote: > > > As far as I know mdkkdm doesn't let you type in a user name (I haven't > > tried it in a long time). That's the one thing that bugs me. I prefer > > to keep the list of users displayed down but there are some users that I > > want to log in as from time to time (e.g. my test user). > > Well, with mdkkdm you can have either one or the other, but not both. You > can get to user selections in the icon version by typing, but you can't > log in as a user not in the list. I don't even want to look for it. I'd rather swith to gdm just for cosmetic reasons. IMHO, when the user select auth by NIS or LDAP or Samba, DrakX should disable list view by default. When you are using this kind of auth , most of the time you have sevral users ( > 5 ) and for me 15, and having the fifteen users icons ... weird > I actually still use mdkkdm on all my machines and me gdm. Beautifuler and this is important because the first things they see when clients/users see the computer is ... the dm. "Oh what a beautiful login, is it XP ? - No, it's linux. - That's very beautiful". And that's why they use KDE as their desktop. Gnome2 for 9.0/9.1 was not ready ( i.e several apps still gnome1, features missings, etc ... ) > , my biggest complaint is > the issue with the reboot dialog not showing the bootloader entries > (there's also the matter of the "Login" button not reacting to the enter > key after selecting a window manager), and my feature request is to have > something done so the "New session" option in the KDE menu works > out-the-box (ie by having /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers have reserve entries) > > Regards, > Buchan
Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm
Le dim 03/08/2003 à 19:53, Dave Cotton a écrit : > Just to show a non negative approach, I went into MCC and enabled mdkkdm > and it was installed, as I had kdm set up _not_ to show icons and to use > the last login, I must say mdkkdm picked up this config. > So the problem for me, from the last time I updated and allowed mdkkdm, > was that it defaulted to showing all the logins, a ridiculous situation > on a machine with a large number of users. This machine has standard > security level. IMHO when using NIS/LDAP/Samba auth, all dm should default too "no users list"
Re: [Cooker] MdkKDM (was: free choice?)
Le dim 03/08/2003 à 12:41, Leon Brooks a écrit : > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 15:01, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > What the heck was the problem with either gdm or kdm? > > Dunno, perhaps looks too complex to a newbie, huh ! I'd rather use gdm : beautiful, beautiful, and ... beautiful and this even all the users in my network use kde. Yes they use kde but log with GDM ( right tools for the right things ). kdm is fine ( not buggy as mdkdm ) but not enough beautiful. > perhaps they want to add an XP-style flowers-on-the-background user list may be fine, but at this moment mdkdm is buggy as hell and ...
[Cooker] [THOUGHTS] scannerdrake
I found scannerdrake organisation a little bit ...strange. I'd expect to see something like printerdrake but scannerdrake i different, and maybe too different. 1°/ Adding a scanner. I think that this part should be design as for printerdrake, i.e : - add local scanner - add remote scanner why ? i found strange to go to "scanner share" in order to add a remote scanner. several times I had to force me to remind me to go there to add a remote scanner 2°/ // port scanner : some // scanner need scsi emulation on // port ( for example Microtek Phantom 330CX ), so you need to load ppscsi & onscsi . At this time, scanner is unable to do it leaving to undetect scanner. SO maybe for the local scanner part there should have a suyb categorie like this : - scsi scanner - usb scanner - // scanner and when user select "// scanner", scannerdrake should try to detect it, and if it failed, as the user if it can try with scsi emulation on // port "Do you want scannerdrake try to detect your // port scanner by using scsi emulation on // port ? Some scanner need this to function properly. Y/n", and after scannerdrake load the corrects modules and retry to detect the scanner.
Re: [Cooker] an hardware database for cooker
Le mar 29/07/2003 à 16:12, Buchan Milne a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Olivier Thauvin wrote: > > I was talking on irc about an hardware database for cooker. > > We allready have on the this kind of apps for stable release but my > goal is a > > bit different: > > > > - know hardware is, was, can be tested > > - when poeple used it, with what rpm version > > - the state: ie should it be re-tested (because somethings has changed) > > - have identifier or id for pci/usb/firewire. > > > > About technical stuff, I was thinking to using postgres (because I use it > > myself) with php, but poeple at mdk prefer perl (I agree if this strange > > language can works). Do not troll about thoses choice, all can be changed > > until nothing is done. > > > > This idea is not for bug report (bugzilla is here). > > > > What do you think about this ? > > Yes, the hardware database at > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3 needs to be more > community-powered > > IMHO, it needs to be done as follows: > > 1)First time wizard should run it > 2)It should show the user a list of the hardware detected (ie from PCI > bus, USB bus etc) and ask the user to mark which hardware was: > - -detected > - -worked out the box > - -worked with manual config > - -needed 3rd-party drivers > - -did not work at all > If it worked with manual config or 3rd-party drivers, they should be > asked to give more information. If they marked "did not work at all", > then they should be given links to the database which will query for > their PCI id or USB device id, so they can see if someone else has got > it working. > 3)All the infromation collected should then be shown to the user, and > then they should be able to submit it if they are happy with the > information being transmitted. > > It *must* be easy to: > - -find out if hardware is supported > - -what extra steps must be taken > - -document this information for others. indeed this could be a killer features for mdk and newbies/newcomer should be/feel less lost. But i don't know if mdksoft will be able to dot it and maintain it as dev are very busy and they are few
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.21mdk
Le jeu 31/07/2003 à 17:07, Stew Benedict a écrit : > Finally getting to some of this: > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > > > 3°/ RW erasing > > - at minimum size, the checkbox overlap the "Erase Now" button > > - you say "Check you want to erase you rewritable support (1st session > > )". > > ==> Saying : "Erase the CD-RW each time" is better and ... shorter. > > ==> why only the 1st session ? if I want to erase a CD-RW, I'd rather > > have everything erase and a full erase. > > > > The thought here was a multisession CD. You would be putting more than 1 > backup on the CD, so you would only want to erase when creating the 1st > session. Probably could be made clearer in some way. > > > + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> Where -> Tape : > > > > 2°/ Check/Are you sure pb and possible confusion > > - drakbackup should not says "Are you sure you want to erase your tape > > before ...". It should say : "Erase tape before each backup" [] > > And you check to say yes. It's not a wizard, or if this is a wizard, I > > don't have the impression this is a wizard. > > - drakbackup should not says "Check you want to eject tape after > > backup". > > How does drakbackup is going to figure it out ? In fact it will be > > better to say : "Eject tape after each backup" [] > > I'm not seeing the "Are you sure" text. Translation issue? > In English, it's "Please check if...", written by the previous author. > I agree it could be more succinct. I've hesitated to change text as it > pushes more work to the translators, who generally get upset when we start > changing things late in the game. I'll drop the "Please check" Bad translation from me. I test drakbackup in english and indedd we have only "Please check if you want to"
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gnome-control-center-2.3.4-2mdk
Le mer 30/07/2003 à 17:06, Adam Williamson a écrit : > On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:47, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > > No pb for me ... clean your .gnome, .gconf, .gconfd ? > > If by "clean" you mean "remove", I'd really rather not. I LIKE the stuff > in there. :) If you mean something else, then clarify... remove ;) --- Quand elles nous aiment ce n'est pas vraiment nous qu'elles aiment. Mais c'est bien nous, un beau matin, qu'elles n'aiment plus. Paul Geraldy
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gnome-control-center-2.3.4-2mdk
Le mer 30/07/2003 à 16:05, Adam Williamson a écrit : > Does everyone else have their problems fixed now? See, I don't - my > menus are still missing icons, my mouse sensitivity is messed up, and > keyboard repeat is disabled. I've uninstalled and reinstalled libgnome2 > *and* run the script quoted above. This is driving me nuts...is there > actually a known-good fix? No pb for me ... clean your .gnome, .gconf, .gconfd ?
Re: [Cooker] Rebuids needed
Le mer 30/07/2003 à 13:18, Pixel a écrit : > > and there are probably others as well. > > francois, can you give the list of such bad requires? add postgresql-pl too
[Cooker] Kolab & Thunderbird
dont forget that kolab 1.0 is out and thunderbird 0.1 also ( mozilla mail client part ).
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 2846] [mtools] Floppy formatter incompatiblewith supermount
Le mar 29/07/2003 à 14:30, Danny Tholen a écrit : > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 11:00, François Pons wrote: > > > > > > > tell Juan to include my supermount to make it possible :) > > > > Ah, does it means the current kernel doesn't support this functionnalities > > ? > Well, I have been trying to harrass Juan about this for a few months now. It > would probably fix all the supermount bugs in bugzilla in one sweep. Plus it > gives us some nice features like this one. But for some of these features > apps have to be adepted. So we really need it a considerable time before a > freeze. > > Juan, please? Patch for latest kernel is already done for you... Maybe Juan is working on a better version ? In fact I don't know ( and Juan silence concerning this is disturbing ), but what I know is that we need a reliable and fully functionnal supermount, or else we should better remove it and use autofs. Why ? because many users installed mdk and when they have pb with their CDROMS/floppy, they complain. In my network I had to remove all CDROM and floppy in order to be peaceful. For some users I need the floppy and the CD and many times I had this complaint : excuse me, but my floppy is not working. It said unable to access floppy drive. bla bla bla. Mount/umount ? bad idea because all this stations ( and of cources the users ) where using windows before and having to deal with mount/umount ( even there are some applets ) will be a bad idea and a bad point for linux.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.64-3mdk & postgresql-pl too
Le mar 29/07/2003 à 14:45, Pixel a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: gaim Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.64 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 3mdk Build Date: Tue Jul 29 16:29:38 2003 > --=-=-= > > * Tue Jul 29 2003 Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.64-3mdk > > - when requiring the perl-base used for building, include the epoch we need the same thing for postgresql-pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi perl Afin de poursuivre la mise à jour, les paquetages suivants doivent être désinstallés : gaim-0.64-2mdk.i586 (perl-base == 5.8.0 non satisfait) postgresql-pl-7.3.3-3mdk.i586 (perl-base == 5.8.0 non satisfait) (o/N)
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpmdrake-2.1-29mdk
Le ven 25/07/2003 à 13:45, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: rpmdrake Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 2.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 29mdk Build Date: Fri Jul 25 15:32:52 2003 When you click to select a package and you click gain to select another package it uncheck/deselect everything. ===> so inability to select severals packages with mouse. Works fine with space bar.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.24mdk
Le ven 25/07/2003 à 14:15, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.24mdk Build Date: Fri Jul 25 15:32:00 2003 > --=-=-= > > * Thu Jul 24 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9.2-0.24mdk > - mousedrake: use std button layout does not fit in window at minimum size
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.21mdk
Le ven 25/07/2003 à 12:15, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : > Le jeu 24/07/2003 à 18:08, Stew Benedict a écrit : > > > > The other business with the 3 buttons for incremental/differential. One > > enables the mode, then the radio buttons select incremental vs > > differential. I thought the text reflected that the last time I looked at > > it, but I'll review it. > > In french I only see incremental backup. It's a french translation pb, I test in english and I can see incremental and differential ( need tooltip explaining what is it and advantages )
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.1.2-30mdk
Le mer 23/07/2003 à 12:00, Laurent MONTEL a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: kdebase Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 3.1.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 30mdk Build Date: Wed Jul 23 13:46:57 2003 why libkdebase4 ? why not libkdebase3 as it is KDE 3.x ? what the 4 stand for ?
Re: [Cooker] drakxtools/drakconf maintenance for 25th july -> 18thaugust
Le ven 25/07/2003 à 10:06, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > Hello fellow cookerants of the free universe, > > since we're badly said to be not enough in contact with the > communauty, let try to be smarter: > > i'll be in holydays from tonight up to monday 18th august, so i won't > be able to answer bugs. Bonne vacances et pas trop de folie ;) have some good holidays. > as usual, just fill the bugzilla vampire with blood^h^h^h^h^h bug > reports with enough information. > ... > do not hesitate to fill bugzilla with bad button layout, unexpected > behavior so that we build up more robust tools for next release. > we've already did quite some work (which means we've still more to do > :-( ) i'm going to spam bugzilla :D
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.23mdk
Le jeu 24/07/2003 à 20:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.23mdk Build Date: Thu Jul 24 21:34:09 2003 > --=-=-= > > * Thu Jul 24 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9.2-0.23mdk > > - drakperm: > o main window: > * "ok" button should exit after having saved the preferences if I select custom level, select a directory, select permission settings and after click ok, it closes drakperm
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.21mdk
Le jeu 24/07/2003 à 18:08, Stew Benedict a écrit : > > The other business with the 3 buttons for incremental/differential. One > enables the mode, then the radio buttons select incremental vs > differential. I thought the text reflected that the last time I looked at > it, but I'll review it. In french I only see incremental backup. If this is sub option, you'd better ident to the right these radio buttons and not put them at the same line so that text can fit in window at minimum size + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> More Options : at minimum size text entry for email hide end of text "send an email after each backup" [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q drakxtools drakxtools-9.2-0.23mdk
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.21mdk
Le jeu 24/07/2003 à 17:53, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > btw, the help option should better point to mandrake tools help (see > harddrake2, drakconnect, drakbug, or mcc for sample) I'm not so sure ... help should point out indeed to frakhelp ( even it is slow to launch ), but we should have also some tooltips for quick help > so you've to use "help/cancel" order here > > > > - drakboot: configured directly gdm & kdm > > - overlap/hide journal journal is still overlap/hide. Under Cancel/Validate you have a big space. > > - boot splash configuration should be move to an another widget and > > follow the example of boot loader configuration. This will save a lot of > > space. where is boot splash config ? > all of them being already fixed in 9.2-0.22mdk :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q drakxtools drakxtools-9.2-0.23mdk many message in console when entering boot loader configuration screen : "text" member should have been used instead of "label" one at: interactive::gtk::__ANON__() called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive/gtk.pm:578 interactive::gtk::__ANON__() called from /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/MDK/Common/Func.pm:239 MDK::Common::Func::map_index() called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive/gtk.pm:578 interactive::gtk::ask_fromW() called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm:391 interactive::ask_from_real() called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm:379 interactive::ask_from_() called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/any.pm:294 any::setupBootloader__general() called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/any.pm:147 any::setupBootloader() called from /usr/sbin/drakboot:339 (eval)() called from /usr/sbin/drakboot:339 main::lilo_choice() called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/ugtk2.pm:878 ugtk2::main() called from /usr/sbin/drakboot:318 > > - need tooltips explaining boot loader configuration options > > that is ? which options do you speak about exactly ? compact : you have the explanation during install ( some scsi disk bla bla bla ) but afterwards if you want to activate it you may not remember its meaning. boot device : explain what does this mean, talking about MBR and what is hda/hdb/hdc/hdd . A tooltip may be too short acpi & apic : not explain what is it, but maybe why we may want to enable/disable it.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.21mdk
Le mer 23/07/2003 à 16:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.21mdk Build Date: Wed Jul 23 17:54:25 2003 > --=-=-= > > * Wed Jul 23 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9.2-0.21mdk > > - drakbackup: misc fixes (stew) others bugs : + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> What : 1°/ repetition - one checkbox with "use incremental backup ( don't replace old backup )" - two radio buttons with "use incremental backup" twice. ===> there should have only the checkbox. 2°/ another repetition You also have a note : "incremental backup don't ... backups" this note explain the same thing that what you have in the brackets. If you keep the note you should remove the explanation in the bracket. 3°/ bad explanation concerning this note, if found that the explication for incremental backup can ledd to confusion. Why ? if after I check "rewind tape" for tape backup or "erase media" I will lost my old backup but I will not really understand it because of the incremental backup explanation. Saying that incremental backup allow to backup only modified files may be better. On top of that if the admin put noatime in fstab, it will remind him that maybe he should note use incremental backup. ==> a better explanation may be : incremental backup allow to backup only modified files + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> Where -> Net : 1°/ text display pb at minimum size. when mcc is at the minimum size, you can't see all the text for "Others keys exist ( not drakbacup ones )" ==> text should fit in the window at minimum size 2°/ lack of help I'm a newbie and I select ssh. But what is Expect ( use Expect for ssh ) ? adavantage ? how do I use it ? do I have something to configure on the client and/or serveur side ? ==> need at least a tooltip, or better a help text when you click on help button. The same for the others entries. + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> Where -> CD/DVD-RW Drive : 1°/ explanation too long for CD/DVD choice In french the text is so long that it take 3 lines and you have some text under the entry where you select your device. 2°/ non editable combo IMHO we should rather have option menus 3°/ RW erasing - at minimum size, the checkbox overlap the "Erase Now" button - you say "Check you want to erase you rewritable support (1st session )". ==> Saying : "Erase the CD-RW each time" is better and ... shorter. ==> why only the 1st session ? if I want to erase a CD-RW, I'd rather have everything erase and a full erase. + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> Where -> Tape : 1°/ non editable combo IMHO we should rather have option menus 2°/ Check/Are you sure pb and possible confusion - drakbackup should not says "Are you sure you want to erase your tape before ...". It should say : "Erase tape before each backup" [] And you check to say yes. It's not a wizard, or if this is a wizard, I don't have the impression this is a wizard. - drakbackup should not says "Check you want to eject tape after backup". How does drakbackup is going to figure it out ? In fact it will be better to say : "Eject tape after each backup" [] - what does "Check you want to use a non-rewindable device" mean ? Is drakbackup is going to check that the tape can be rewind or is drakbackup wil not rewind the tape after the backup and put the otheers after the last one ? If second, it should be better to say : "rewind tape after each backup" [] + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> When : 1°/ non editable combo IMHO we should rather have option menus 2°/ can we specify the hour of the backup ? I know that drakbackup use /etc/crond.* [hourly,daily,weekly,monthly], but should we have the possibility to specify a special hour ? + Drakbackup -> Manual Configuration -> More Options : 1°/ typo in french utilser <-> Utiliser 2°/ lack of help should have at least a tooltip explaining where are located .backupignore files. + Drakbackup -> Configuration with a wizard -> storage media selection : 1°/ typo in french : su <-> sur Lecteur de Bande + MUG ( Mdk Ui Guideline ) You have Cancel - Help - ... It should be Help - Cancel ? > - drakboot: configured directly gdm & kdm - can't fit in window at minimum size - overlap/hide journal - boot splash configuration should be move to an another widget and follow the example of boot loader configuration. This will save a lot of space. - non editable combo IMHO we should rather have option menus everywhere possible - need tooltips explaining boot loader configuration options > - drakfont: fix #1679 & #3673 garbage in file dialog : Sélectionnez les polices ou dossiers et cliquez sur « Ajouter » > - drakgw: if you resize the window of the wizard, you have a bad effect as the top image keep the same size. The window should not be resizable or the image should resize itself, or you have a a c
Re: [Cooker] A new background ?
Le jeu 24/07/2003 à 13:05, Pierre Jarillon a écrit : > The mandrake backgrounds are always the same. not really, 9.1 default background is different that the 9.0's one. > Have a look at : > http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/fonds/camelia-12.jpg (1280x1024) > http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/fonds/camelia-16.jpg (1600x1200) > I am the author of these pictures (and proud of them ;-) and I would be > happy to see them in Mdk 9.2. photo are usually not very good as background, and is there are many dark part it's even worse. You need something clear as most of the time desktop font are with black color and you need to see clearly the icons and and the impression that your screen is big
Re: [Cooker] RedHat trying to beat us at our own game?
Le mer 23/07/2003 à 10:15, Andi Payn a écrit : > Nah, they all live in France. So do all contributors. All the .ca, etc. > addresses are just a ploy to confuse us. Oh là là, il est en train de tout dévoiler ... bouh bouh bouh ;) > And PLF is an insidious French plot > to subvert good honest American laws that are meant to take the rights from > citizens of all countries and put them safely where they belong, in the hands > of American media/technology conglomerates like CBS, NBC, Fox, Virgin, etc. virgin is english
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] intimed-2.00-4mdk
Le mar 22/07/2003 à 13:15, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: intimed Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 2.00 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 4mdk Build Date: Tue Jul 22 15:08:17 2003 hum hum, how does it work ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -ql intimed /usr/sbin/in.timed [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q intimed intimed-2.00-4mdk
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.19mdk
Le lun 21/07/2003 à 17:30, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.19mdk Build Date: Mon Jul 21 19:03:54 2003 > * Mon Jul 21 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9.2-0.19mdk > - draksec select box need to be right align ( like for periodic check entry ) because when you scroll with your mouse you end up with modified entries, and if you are not aware you may validate settings you didn't want to validate. > - harddrake2: CPU section : model name, stepping and frequence should be first in the list of properties as most of the times these are the primary information you will be looking for. > - renew drakconnect wizard gui (2/x): > o try to get more space on screen drakconnect overlap/hide message/log/ journal --- Chaque age a ses plaisirs, son esprit et ses moeurs. -- Nicolas Boileau, Art poetique
Re: [Cooker] Evolution 1.43 - lost graphics with attachments
Le mar 22/07/2003 à 09:51, Robert Fox a écrit : > When I create a new e-mail, and attach documents to it (like jpegs), > there is NO graphical confirmation of the attachments. Up until recent > Cooker changes, Evolution 1.43 was working fine. The same for all kinds of attachment except png ( show a preview + usuals informations ). I filled a bug on qa but no response.
Re: [Cooker] curl problems with urpmi - follow-up question
Le lun 21/07/2003 à 11:03, Robert Fox a écrit : > Staying on this question, is there a way to force rpmdrake to use wget > and not curl? I know about the "--wget" switch for urpmi, but how do I > force it for rpmdrake? > removing curl package ?
[Cooker] [Re] [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.18mdk
Le sam 19/07/2003 à 14:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.18mdk Build Date: Sat Jul 19 15:29:02 2003 1°/ draksec : - in periodic check -> no help - system options -> /etc/issue* exist : garbage in help - system options -> Authorize all services controlled by tcp_wrappers : garbage in help 2°/ still the top spacing when launching severals tools
Re: [Cooker] So, is someone going to file a bug against...
Le sam 19/07/2003 à 14:18, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > eg: when french political people speak about immigrants, they always > say they must be assimilated instead of integrated/welcomed. or > look for the number of poeple who want to forbid muslim weil[1] in > schools or public bureaucracy whereas of course showing a > catholical cross is not a problem (the idea being forbidding > proselytism...) 1°/ at least the crux can be hidden under your shirt if you don't want to disturb people. 2°/ the crux is small, you have to be aware to noticed it most of the time. 3°/ now you should have a weil and you will see how you will feel. > about the weil, catholic sisters often got authorized bo be weiled > on their ids but now police chief is talking about forbiding it > for muslums. 1°/ they are sisters ! like priest they are a little bit different. If muslim have sister it won't be a pb. Now for common people I found it ... 2°/ look about who wear the weil. Not the first migrants ( mothers ) but the second/third generation. To my mind it seems to be a regression. 3°/ go in the city and you will see some very "interesting" things conceirning girls/women status. Do you know "ni putes, ni soumises" association ? > you just only see the so called "human rights country" surface. eg: > most french people will tell you we've the best social/assurance > system of the world despite we do not live longer :-) we live longer than americans for example. if you are not rich, try to have medicine or be heal in US/GB. Why does you have some britains that comes in some french hospital ? You have some silly things in french system, people you cheat, but at least if you are not rich you have survive well. > but as every other country in the world, it has its drawbacks. sure, u're completly right > france is not as opened as it seems. > > and it's the same for so called regional/minority languages: in 1992, > our House of Representatives make a law to protect french language > against the so called "english language imperialism" (!!!); they told > us that it would never be used againts minority langugaes. The pb you see was the fact that at this time everywhere you had english words ( pub, tv, etc ... ). English was "cool". I have nothing against english, but if you can't use freench words in a pub/ad, or at least translate it ( as not everybody speak english, and french are very bad concerning foreign languages ) it's a pb. > no, of course they do not make fun about those who want to learn > french and britton (or any other minority language) I' m willing to be able to learn creol as I'm from F.W.I ( Guadeloupe ) > > > [1] the question of male/female equality being not the same problem as > accepting foreign people habits It's not habits. If you were in Iran before the ayatollah, or in Syrie, you will see that many women where not wearing weil, or it was little. It is not habits, it's a religious things, and as it's in the laws : no religious things too visible. Have Fatma hand, or whatever you want put the weil ... And for swimming pool ? Are you going to have a discimination with this ? or are you going to separate men/women ?
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] scribus-1.0-1mdk
Le ven 18/07/2003 à 08:07, Laurent MONTEL a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: scribus Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 1mdk Build Date: Thu Jul 17 19:04:14 2003 IMHO i18n package should require the main program : [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi scribus Un des paquetages suivants est nécessaire : 1- scribus-i18n-fr-1.0-1mdk.i586 2- scribus-1.0-1mdk.i586 3- scribus-i18n-de-1.0-1mdk.i586 Que choisissez-vous ? (1-3)1 ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/scribus-i18n-fr-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/scribus-i18n-fr-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm Préparation... ## 1:scribus-i18n-fr ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q scribus package scribus is not installed
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] cursor_themes-0.0.3-1mdk
Le mer 16/07/2003 à 17:16, Buchan Milne a écrit : > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: cursor_themesRelocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.0.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 1mdk Build Date: Wed Jul 16 16:50:19 2003 > - Drop Xdialog requirement, and hope the user has a dialog program (is there a > better solution?) what about putting a require on dialog provide ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmf --provides dialog gtkdialogs:gchooser gtkdialogs:gmessage gtkdialogs:xtest gtkdialogs:gtkdialogs[== 2.0-3mdk] gtkdialogs:/usr/X11R6/bin/xtest cdialog:dialog cdialog:cdialog[== 0.9b-4mdk] linuxconf:lcdialog.so linuxconf:lcdialogmenu.so gnucash:libgncmod-dialog-tax-table.so.0 gnucash:libgw-dialog-tax-table.so.0 kdenetwork:kpfpropertiesdialog.so mrproject:libcalendardialog.so mrproject:libprintdialog.so mrproject:libresourcedialog.so mrproject:libtaskdialog.so omni:libomnijobdialog.so.2 Xdialog:Xdialog[== 2.1.1-1mdk]
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpmdrake-2.1-25mdk
Le mer 16/07/2003 à 14:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > Name: rpmdrake Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 2.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 25mdk Build Date: Wed Jul 16 15:53:15 2003 > > * Wed Jul 16 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.1-25mdk > > - switch to gtk2-perl-xs > stock icons for Help/Quit Note : should rpmdrake prevent himself from being launch twice ?
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.1.2-28mdk
Le mar 15/07/2003 à 12:45, Laurent MONTEL a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: kdebase Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 3.1.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 28mdk Build Date: Tue Jul 15 14:19:48 2003 jpeg preview ( in konqueror, in fileOpen window ) is still broken and still create magnific core files for each previewed jpeg. Note : i don't have kdemultimedia ( broken provide )
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] userdrake-0.92-11mdk
Le mar 15/07/2003 à 18:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: userdrakeRelocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.92 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 11mdk Build Date: Tue Jul 15 19:49:27 2003 no stock icons in menu : File -> Quit ( cf mcc File menu ) The same for help menu : Help -> Help ( cf mcc help menu too )
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.15mdk
Le mar 15/07/2003 à 18:45, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.15mdk Build Date: Tue Jul 15 20:30:41 2003 > - drakboot: > o grey theme config instead of hiding it > o describe user and desktop lists drakboot is too big. 1°/ hide journal ( is there a container for drakboot widget ?) 2°/ theme should be put on a separate window as you do for drakfloppy. Curent theme : Default> | Settings | In Setting you can then select theme, create a new theme, etc 3°/ The same for user interface choice : Current Settings : Launch graphic interface at boot [ No autologin ] > | Settings| And in settings you can activate/deactivate XFree at boot time, activate & configure auto login > - drakfloppy: grey remove button if no module to remove in modules > list so checking expert just activate the log window ? > - draksec: wrap labels For each label you should have an help button explaining what each security option means ( on top of that they are in english ) > - fix interactive apps on X11 (eg diskdrake) the button hover in diskdrake is very beautiful :) > - logdrake: ensure we got a valied email in "email alert" hide journal too. I see that logdrake launch a wizard to ensure that email is correct and will be correctly delivered. Does draksec should not do the same ?
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.15mdk
Le mar 15/07/2003 à 18:45, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.15mdk Build Date: Tue Jul 15 20:30:41 2003 timedrake/clock.pl : not using stock icons ( Accept/Cancel )
Re: [Cooker] Auto configure new hard drives?
Le mar 15/07/2003 à 22:25, Olof Bjarnason a écrit : > But: yesterday I wanted to access my old 4GB harddrive, which > contain an installation of Windows XP and is in ntfs file system > format. I put it in the computer and checked that BIOS found my > harddrive and all was clear; naively I though "Mandrake will > auto-configure my new hard drive". > > Sadly, this wasn't the case. I had to read through 'mount' > documentationand hey - I am back in RedHat Linux, which was the > previous Linux dist I used and didn't like because of the *giant* load > of administrative work I had to perform just to install a single > program, for example. > > Shouldn't an OS claiming "user-friendliness" auto configure new > hard drives installed in the system? what do you mean by autoconfigure ? make the drive available by loading the module and making the dev to acces it ? make a mount point ? > Or am I doing something wrong, > perhaps the Control Center can help me out? If this is the case, > please give me a pointer, and I apologize for taking up your time. > ce Yes. Mandrake Control Center -> Mount Points -> Diskdrake Mandrake should not autoconfigure your drive after install ( i.e add a mount ) because : 1°/ you may want to give your own mount point name 2°/ which name to choose ?
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.14mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]# rpm -q drakxtools harddrake userdrake drakxtools-9.2-0.14mdk harddrake-9.2-0.14mdk userdrake-0.92-10mdk 1°/ diskdrake : when I launch from mcc ( edit partition table part ), If I click on OK when it advise me to save my partition table, it quit diskdrake as if I had click on cancel. Clicking on cancel still quit diskdrake of course. 2°/ UI pb : there should have a guideline for OK/Cancel position. For example in draksec : Cancel -> left side, Ok -> right side drakperm : Cancel -> Right side, Ok -> left side disturbing and dangerous as if you click too fast, you may click on ok when you were expecting to click on cancel. Most of the time, validation is on the right side and cancellation on the left side, or at the middle if you have a third button ( Advanced/Preferences ) apps needing fix : drakperm, clock.pl/timedrake, logdrake 3°/ Menudrake ( mcc part, first screen ) 4°/ userdrake : gtk-ok/gtk-cancel button. Need lastest patch. It should use the gtk stock icons quit button 5°/ another UI pb : The quit/finish button. Need also a standard position. left ? middle ? right side ? drakbackup -> left side drakfont -> right side harddrake -> right side, different button ( quit and not finish ) 6°/ XFdrake : not using stock icons for quit in XFdrake ( XFree server configuration ), i.e where you can change graphic card, monitor, test config, etc ... )
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk - files conflictwith gnome-applet
Le ven 11/07/2003 à 17:01, Austin Acton a écrit : > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: sticky-notes-applet Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 1.0.11Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Jul 11 18:29:35 2003 file /usr/lib/stickynotes_applet from install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk file /usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/applet_menu.png from install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk file /usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/note_menu.png from install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk file /usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/preferences_dialog.png from install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk file /usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/figures/stickynotes_applet.png from install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk file /usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/stickynotes_applet.xml from install of sticky-notes-applet-1.0.11-1mdk conflicts with file from package gnome-applets-2.3.5-1mdk
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kmldonkey-0.8-2plf
Le sam 12/07/2003 à 09:00, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: kmldonkeyRelocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.8 Vendor: Penguin Liberation Front > Release : 2plf Build Date: Sat Jul 12 10:54:51 2003 1°/ why this package in contrib rpm ? 2°/ file conflick with mldonkey-ed2k_submit file /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol from install of kmldonkey-0.8-2plf conflicts with file from package mldonkey-ed2k_submit-2.5.3-2plf
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.11mdk
Le jeu 10/07/2003 à 17:07, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > with your patch drakfloppy launch. But if MCC is with the minimum size, > > you can't see CANCEL/Create a floppy/Expert Mode buttons. > > The best way is to not display the expert part while in normal mode > > hiding wigets is very bad regarding human-machine interfaces what about the fact that when you hit expert mode, a new window is showed where you can put the module by hand ? hiding is bad, but showing greyed widget is disturbing and to my mind bad too and even worse. > > __ > > > > 6°/ unable to launch timedrake : > > > fixed but we now miss one widget: > > > > he he he. In embeded mode i can see it ... 2 seconds and nothing ( > > killed ) : > this is why i wrote "but we now miss one widget" sorry > anyway, this is now fixed in the latest drakconf just see it 15 minutes ago. waiting for mirrors to be synced.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] userdrake-0.92-7mdk
Le jeu 10/07/2003 à 16:16, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > BTW userdrake doesn't use stock icons when for example you edit an > > user account ( OK/Cancel button ) > > here it's: you have gtk-cancel/gtk-ok instead of the stock icons now
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.11mdk
Le jeu 10/07/2003 à 14:40, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > already fixed in cvs: with your patch drakfloppy launch. But if MCC is with the minimum size, you can't see CANCEL/Create a floppy/Expert Mode buttons. The best way is to not display the expert part while in normal mode > > __ > > 5°/ unable to launch draksec. from console : > > Usage: Gtk2::Entry::new(class) at /usr/sbin/draksec line 121. > > thanks, here's the fix: no stock icons for cancel/ok > > __ > > 6°/ unable to launch timedrake : > fixed but we now miss one widget: he he he. In embeded mode i can see it ... 2 seconds and nothing ( killed ) : Can't locate object method "new" via package "Gtk2::Gdk::Point" (perhaps you forgot to load "Gtk2::Gdk::Point"?) at /usr/sbin/clock.pl line 268. > > __ + a new one : many message from logdrake in console when launching mcc : (logdrake:6399): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtktextlayout.c: line 2328 (gtk_text_layout_get_iter_location): assertion `GTK_IS_TEXT_LAYOUT (layout)' failed (logdrake:6399): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtktextbuffer.c: line 2537 (gtk_text_buffer_get_end_iter): assertion `GTK_IS_TEXT_BUFFER (buffer)' failed
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] userdrake-0.92-7mdk
Le jeu 10/07/2003 à 14:42, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > i make it support embedding; that does not mean we'll embed it. > in fact, i wanted to do so, but having a menu is not nice when > embedded, so i did not release the mcc that enable embeding for > userdrake. > > sorry :-) don't mention it ;) BTW userdrake doesn't use stock icons when for example you edit an user account ( OK/Cancel button )
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.11mdk
Le mer 09/07/2003 à 22:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.11mdk Build Date: Wed Jul 9 23:49:22 2003 1°/ drakboot not using stock icons for OK/Cancel/Configure on first page 2°/ drakfloppy crash and eat 100% CPU. from console : (drakfloppy:669): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtktreestore.c: line 638 (gtk_tree_store_get_value): assertion `iter->stamp == GTK_TREE_STORE (tree_model)->stamp' failed [gperl_sv_from_value] FIXME: unhandled type - 0 ((null) fundamental for (null)) (drakfloppy:669): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gvalue.c: line 147 (g_value_unset): assertion `G_IS_VALUE (value)' failed 3°/ drakautoinst not using stock icons 4°/ sometimes in embedded mode, when you launch an apps, you have a white rectangle a the top taking half of the space so the tools is half sized. You need to stop and relaunch mcc to correct this. This arrives when you launch a mdktool after one. For example launch harddrake -> Quit -> re-harddrake => half sized 4°/ drakconnect not using stock icons. freeze + 100% cpu time when you click cancel 5°/ unable to launch draksec. from console : Usage: Gtk2::Entry::new(class) at /usr/sbin/draksec line 121. 6°/ unable to launch timedrake : Can't locate auto/Gtk2/timeout_add.al in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/sbin/clock.pl line 137 7°/ drakfont not using stock icons ( close ) 8°/ drakcronat not using stock icons. At the left side I have a blank button ( french locales )
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] userdrake-0.92-7mdk
Le jeu 10/07/2003 à 09:31, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: userdrakeRelocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.92 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 7mdk Build Date: Thu Jul 10 11:25:10 2003 > * Thu Jul 10 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.92-7mdk > > - fix embedding in mcc userdrake is still not embedded in mcc [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]# rpm -q drakxtools drakconf userdrake drakxtools-9.2-0.11mdk drakconf-9.2-0.4mdk userdrake-0.92-7mdk
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.9mdk
Le mar 08/07/2003 à 13:07, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > as i'm currently playing with perl-Gtk2, could you resend me all what > you see once i upload a perl-Gtk2 aware drakxtools ? sure, no pb. > > 7°/ No icon for Advanced in DrakFirewall > > no std stock item for it what about the one you have in gnome control center for Advanced ? > > 8°/ No icon for menudrake in the first page for End/Quit/Finish > > menudrake is not part of drakxtools, see with fred crozat CC [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 9°/ Are there icons that could be use for start/stop in drakxservice > > ? > > no std stock item for them can mdk provides ones in core mdk packages ?
Re: [Cooker] urpmi? Totally fsked!
Le mar 08/07/2003 à 11:56, François Pons a écrit : > No, for a so old perl-URPM (;-)) you need to update it to at least 9mdk in order > to allow perl to install correctly. done this morning. perl installed fine, but urpmi uninstall postgresql-pl. But urpmi postgresql-pl install it fine ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q perl-URPM urpmi perl-URPM-0.91-10mdk urpmi-4.4-8mdk
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-4.2-9mdk : several dependencies on libpopt.so
Le lun 07/07/2003 à 15:30, Frederic Lepied a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: rpm Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 4.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 9mdk Build Date: Mon Jul 7 13:13:51 2003 since upgrade to rpm-4.2-9mdk and popt-1.8-9mdk, I have a dependence on libpopt.so that prevent me to install some package. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi koffice Some package requested cannot be installed: koffice-1.3-0.beta2.2mdk.i586 (libgsf-1_1-devel-1.8.1-2mdk.i586 absent) libgsf-1_1-devel-1.8.1-2mdk.i586 (libpopt.so non satisfait) wv2-0.1-1mdk.i586 (libgsf-1_1-devel-1.8.1-2mdk.i586 absent) (O/n) why does wv2 require a -devel package ( libgsf-1_1-devel-1.8.1-2mdk ) ? Note : [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmf libpopt.so popt:/lib/libpopt.so.0 popt:/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 popt:/usr/lib/libpopt.so.0 popt-devel:/usr/lib/libpopt.so <--- why does urpmi can't find it ?
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.2-0.9mdk
Le lun 07/07/2003 à 16:30, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.9mdkBuild Date: Mon Jul 7 18:10:02 2003 > --=-=-= > > * Sun Jul 06 2003 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9.2-0.9mdk > > - increase gui coherency of drakxtools vs other gtk+ apps: use stock icons 1°/ In harddrake, instead of Help/Quit, I have gtk-help/gtk-Quit whithout icons 2°/ Unable to launch printerdrake. From console output : [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# N() was called from /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/data.pm:11 BEFORE gtk2 initialisation, replace it with a N_() AND a translate() later. 3°/ XFdrake doesnt't have gtk icons ( OK/Quit/Cancel ) 4°/ The same for drakboot 5°/ The same for drakconnect, draksec, timedrake, drakcronat (still gtk1 btw), drakfont, logdrake, drakbackup ( Close/Help ) 6°/ for DrakGw the configure button should be the same than the Preferences buttons ( with the same icon ) 7°/ No icon for Advanced in DrakFirewall 8°/ No icon for menudrake in the first page for End/Quit/Finish 9°/ Are there icons that could be use for start/stop in drakxservice ? Thanks a lot for drakbackup new layout, so more intuitive. thx a lot. great job.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdenetwork-3.1.2-16mdk
Le mar 08/07/2003 à 08:00, Laurent MONTEL a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: kdenetwork Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 3.1.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 16mdk Build Date: Tue Jul 8 09:44:56 2003 hum, pb when trying to upgrade it via urpmi : [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# urpmi --wget --auto-select Some package requested cannot be installed: drakfirsttime-0.91-13mdk.noarch (perl(Request) non satisfait) kdenetwork-3.1.2-16mdk.i586 (devel(libXrender) non satisfait) lisa-3.1.2-16mdk.i586 (kdenetwork-3.1.2-16mdk.i586 absent) (O/n) Where is libXrender-devel ? and why require it now ? and require a dev lib ?
Re: [Cooker] urpmi? Totally fsked!
Le lun 07/07/2003 à 15:30, François Pons a écrit : > It could have been caused by your forced installation, but anyway, newer > perl-URPM should fix this strange behaviour... Hum, hum. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi --wget --auto-select Some package requested cannot be installed: drakfirsttime-0.91-13mdk.noarch (perl(Request) non satisfait) (O/n) Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être installés (21 Mo): perl-5.8.0-26mdk.i586 perl-HTML-TableExtract-1.08-1mdk.noarch perl-base-5.8.0-26mdk.i586 perl-devel-5.8.0-26mdk.i586 Est-ce correct ? (O/n) installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-devel-5.8.0-26mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-5.8.0-26mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-base-5.8.0-26mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-HTML-TableExtract-1.08-1mdk.noarch.rpm L'installation a échoué: perl-base = 5.8.0 is needed by (installed) postgresql-pl-7.3.3-2mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q perl-URPM urpmi perl-URPM-0.91-8mdk urpmi-4.4-8mdk
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] ant-phone-0.1.4-1mdk
Le lun 07/07/2003 à 01:15, Austin Acton a écrit : > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: ant-phoneRelocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.1.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 1mdk Build Date: Mon Jul 7 02:11:53 2003 > Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org > Group : CommunicationsSource RPM: (none) In my menu I found ant-phone in Multimedia -> sound & Music I should be in Network -> Other
Re: [Cooker] killall doesn't kill processes?
Le ven 04/07/2003 à 17:50, Crispin Boylan a écrit : > i've tried doing that, even tried rebuilding the rpm on my machine, all > to no avail! Have you try "killall -9 appname" ?
Re: [Cooker] Feature request for drakbackup
Le mer 02/07/2003 à 22:24, Stew Benedict a écrit : > On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > > There should be an entry that will allow you to check current > > configuration and at least say if last schedule backup was has been > > done. > > > > > > Actually there is a screen to see your configuration, but perhaps it needs > to be more readily accessible. > > Backup Now | View Backup Configuration indeed. Sometimes I don't know if the backup setup is right, or if the backup as been correctly done. Of course there's the mail, but I send the mail to someone else and I don't check if the mails are right and if the backup is done. And I don't knwo if I can put a CC, or a second user in the To field. In order not to clutter to much the UI, you can make the following entries : |-> Manual // specify files/dir+dest & backup Quick Backup -> | |-> Auto // make backup from config Restore |-> View Backup configuration // view backup conf Manage Backup ->|-> View backup log // view backup log |-> Configure Backup// configure backup > You can also have the result mailed to the user of your choice, but I'll > look at saving a log for viewing, as well as the issues posted earlier as > to no units on the max size (not sure that this is even abided by), and > consuming /var on a small partition. That's true concerning the units as we don't know the unit. On top of that there's a bug in backup size. I used to backup on a 20/40 GB tape. The pb is that I can't specify the right size and it default to old size. So I just hope that it will be able to backup up everything. Concerning /var space consuming, what about make one tar.gz and copy it, delete it, and so on ? Or give the ability to specify a different directory ? > The other discussion on smart trash etc. is interesting, but I don't know > that I'll be able to get into that. You should wait for 10 release as it won't be easy to implement and used by the user
[Cooker] Feature request for drakbackup
When you open drakbackup, you can configure it ( auto, manual ), backup and restore. What if I just want to see the actual config ? or check drakbackup log ? There should be an entry that will allow you to check current configuration and at least say if last schedule backup was has been done.
Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality
Le ven 27/06/2003 à 17:58, andre a écrit : > On Friday 27 June 2003 15:04, Michael Scherer wrote: > > > > this is more a request for kde or gnome, you should file a bug report in > > their bugzilla, this sound like a good idea. > This is not a gnome or kde issue. This should be done on a very low level so > ALL programs will use the trash. Please don't put trash in low level. let low level be "simple" and you will have less security problems. Trash should be manage by the D.E ( Gnome, KDE, WM, ... ) and their should have a common trash for all theses D.E. it means that http://www.freedesktop.org/ should edicts a stanard for trash so that wherever D.E you are using you will have the same trash. Move file to trash on KDE, retore it on Gnome.
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software
Le jeu 26/06/2003 à 10:09, Eric Fernandez a écrit : > But actually the solution to make rpmdrake installer search in installed > by default is, finally, exactly what rpmdrake 1 was doing !! You will > have both installed and to-be-installed packages in the same search list ! > The point was : why would newbies be confused by an interface that makes > the package browsing, and then offers install/uninstall options ? Don't > you think that make the installed packages appear in the rpmdrake > installer even more confusing ? True. On top of that we can think a little bit about rpmdrake and linux system. With linux user can't easily install an app if the app is : 1°/ a package that requires others libs 2°/ not a rpm provide by mdk ( as others rpms may not work well because of provides/requires/etc ... pb ) To my mind rpmdrake should move to something like Red Carpert/Click'n Run but free. it means that rpmdrake should be like a repository package administration tools. For configured sources it show what is available and precise if it's installed or not, show information, where they came from (source, or unknow for external rpms ). What about a foreign/not mdk package ? ... urpmi/gurpmi. Why ? because : 1°/ It will try to install this package and the required dependencies if possible. If it failed ... sorry it's linux, not windows. 2°/ it simple We try to imitate windows but it's impossible with linux. On windows you have a file that normally have all that it need inside it ( dll or static ) and put them in his directory or use standard windows lib. If you miss something ( seldom ), just grab the right file, most of the time it's just the new DirectX. The nightmare with windows was the fact that some apps override some windows systems dll and of course the registry ( what a mess ). But besides that install an app was easy. Want a game ? put the CD, setup.exe and during install process if it need new directX it provide it for u or u can simply install it. On linux ? take the rpm/sh. arf need libGL.x.y-z and your sys have libGL.x.t-u and several libs depends on it. upgrade ? sometimes some apps requires specific version of a lib -> no way. The solution ? the game should provide everything, put this in his own directory or in /usr/local or in /opt . Linux libs change quickly and often break compatibility somewhere ( API, ABI for C++, behaviour) because most of them are not mature yet. We have to cope with this. A distribution should provide an integrated solution with normally everything that the user will need. If newer version of prog are available, the user buy new CD set ( or dl iso ) and upgrade, or if possible the user launch is repository package administration tools and grab needed package. Normally the user should not pick rpm outside of what the distro provides, or pick tar.gz. If the user did it he will have to assume and cope with this. To sum up it's more freedom and openess ( Opensource, free software, ... ) for less freedom ( use only what your distro provide you if you're a newbies or else you will have to dig inside things more complicated )
Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality
Le jeu 26/06/2003 à 15:15, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : > Hi! > > I have just been to a MS marketing seesion for their Windows Server 2003 > and one of the few key selling points there is the volume shadowing > feature. This is a way to find deleted files, or older versions of > files (eg if you accidentially deleted some of the contents.) It's different from backup and if it's in realtime it's very strong. Delete the file, oops, recover the file. But security risk also ( like old versions of documents in .doc ) > What I think one could do is to reserve some space for backups. > Then one cron job could be run to make backups every day, or every > hour or so. Backups should not be taken of system files that are not > changed. Backups should be compressed and could be diffs. tar.gz and incremental backup > When space is being tight some older versions should be deleted, > but maybe the original should be kept. Some excludsion list should be > available. Have u ever use drakbackup or amanda, etc ... > There should then be a utility and gui to find older versions of > a file, given a specific file path. Users should be able to restore > only their own files. That is, the gui should be the normal file > browsing gui, whatever that be. ha, very interesting but not easy to do. Indeed you first need to decompress the backup, show files belonging only to the user, when the user for example click on the file in the file list, show the different version available, etc ... A better approach should to use something like hdlist which contain list of backed up files + attributes ( atime, backup timestamp, size ) for each user/owner. So this apps browse in this db, show the files belongings to the owner, etc ... It may be interesting and think as an extension for drakbackup but : 1°/ it's very complicated to implement 2°/ I don't think it will be seen in 9.2 3°/ amanda/Arkiea may be best suits for this -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
Re: [Cooker] problem with php-pdf
Le mer 25/06/2003 à 18:29, Jean-Michel Dault a écrit : > Le mer 25/06/2003 à 14:13, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : > > What about shipping fpdf : http://fpdf.org/ ? > > FPDF is an excellent piece of software. Free, well documented, easy to > use, and lots of examples. > > However, it's a php class, not an extension (no binary), and is not as > performant as the other C-library based implementations. > > I could package a rpm, but I don't know where to put it. In php.ini, we > have: > include_path = ".:/usr/lib/php/:/usr/share/pear/" > > FPDF is not part of pear, and if we put it under /usr/lib/php, rpmlint > will complain that there is no binary. > > I guess we'll need a /usr/share/php hierarchy. That's sounds sensible. Note : I think that putting Pear under /usr/share/pear/ is a bad idea. It should be put under for example /usr/share/php/pear. Can we have Pear-Benchmark include in pear package or provide in a separate package ? ( http://pear.php.net/package-info.php?pacid=53 ) In some books like PHP Avancé ( don't remember the edition ) they talk about using pear to bench the site in order to optimise it. -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
Re: [Cooker] problem with php-pdf
Le mer 25/06/2003 à 15:51, andre a écrit : > On Wednesday 25 June 2003 17:25, Oden Eriksson wrote: > > > > check at the plf site for php-pdf like stuff, we cannot ship this in > > mandrake. > License problems? PDFLib is not free software and you must pay a license for commercial use
Re: [Cooker] problem with php-pdf
Le mer 25/06/2003 à 15:25, Oden Eriksson a écrit : > onsdagen den 25 juni 2003 16.45 skrev loic leplomb: > > i don't find php-pdf package on linux mandrake therefor, i took another > > package and i added pdf.so in /usr/lib/php/extension and i added it in > > php.ini. > check at the plf site for php-pdf like stuff, we cannot ship this in mandrake. What about shipping fpdf : http://fpdf.org/ ? -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
Re: [Cooker] Announcement-Spam: New Userdrake to replace Viagra.Check it out!
Le lun 23/06/2003 à 16:18, Daouda LO a écrit : > Simon Oosthoek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'll see whether I have time to test it, some feature requests though: > > - NIS support (rebuilding maps when changing auth-files) > > - crypt/md5 switching on nis server (for solaris<9 nis clients) > > I'm sure I'll find some more when I try it... > > > > does it work on 9.1? > > It should, just grab and install libuser1-0.51.7-2mdk.i586.rpm. What ? since when NIS support is in userdrake ? Just a question : could userdrake allow to switch auth system ( files <-> NIS <-> LDAP ) easily after installation ? -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
Re: [Cooker] random suggestion - HIG (or something)-ify the Draketools
Le lun 23/06/2003 à 19:03, Adam Williamson a écrit : > See topic. A speculative suggestion, what if the drak* tools were > overhauled to meet some recognised usability standard, like HIG or > whatever KDE's equivalent is? I understand there may be objections or > there may be an internal Mandrake standard, it's really just a > suggestion intended to provoke some discussion, I wanted to know what > others think on this topic...but it would be a nice step towards having > a desktop that's completely working to one usability standard... Mdk Tools are Gtk base so it may seems sensible to HIGify them ... but mdktools are not gnome apps, just gtk apps. I'm must say however that if mdktools could follow some HIG specs and provide image button for validation/cancel/apply it should add visual points to the GUI. But before thinking abiout that they should correct some of the bugs that u can see when using theses tools and provide more consistency within their tools, so they should edict a Mdk Interface Guideline ( M.I.G ) -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software
Le mar 24/06/2003 à 11:15, Eric Fernandez a écrit : > Why not doing a "browse packages" interface, independent from any > install/uninstall consideration, with all information we can find in the > install rpmdrake. And then depending on the fact the package is already > installed or not, there would be an install/remove button. You may even add > a filter "only show installed packages" and "only show non-installed > packages". I really don't see why this would be difficult for beginners. > Instead of having two rpmdrake icons in the MCC with a + and a - symbol, you > would have only one +/- that would do the job. I really cannot understand > why it would be more complicated for newbies. And IMO, it would be more > confusing to have one "show installed packages" checkbox that would make > them appear as a tree at the end of non-installed packages. > I agree with u, but GC point me out the fact that it will be a pain to maintain such an app :( So someone decide to do it on his own, or wee will have to cope with this --- Parce que vous etes un grand seigneur, vous vous croyez un grand genie ! -- Beaumarchais, Le Mariage de Figaro
Re: [Cooker] Re: double-clicking on files directly from CD's[was: Re:
Le ven 20/06/2003 à 09:55, Andrey Borzenkov a écrit : > >Le jeu 19/06/2003 ` 12:25, Andrey Borzenkov a icrit : > > >> The right solution is to add support for external helper and query it > >> for mount options for a given device/fstype. > > > That's a great idea ! > > > >> - do something sensible when device could not be mounted. the > >> "please insert CD" dialog that windows pops up would be very > >> useful for newbies as example. > > >you have a problem. If u are in console mode how are u doing to do that? > [... rest skipped due to extremely hard quoting using copy'n'paste :)] > > Have I wrote a SINGLE WORD about HOW it should be implemented? Why are > you so hostile? I just said, it would open up *possibility*. Sorry I'm not a nat_ive english speaker so I may have difficulties to nuances my words. I'm not hostile, I just wanted to pont out some problems. I'm really apologise for this. -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
Re: double-clicking on files directly from CD's [was: Re:[Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes
Le jeu 19/06/2003 à 15:42, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : > Le jeu 19/06/2003 à 12:25, Andrey Borzenkov a écrit : > > > The right solution is to add support for external helper and query it > > for mount options for a given device/fstype. > This helper should not interact. In fact > it's the responsability of the .DE ( KDE/Gnome/WM/... ) to monitor it ( > like fam ) and when it trap the signal to decide what to do so that the > user can easily disable it ( evenn if the helper is still monitoring for > others users ) and have graphical integration > > > - if device polling is added (as some people om lkml keep suggesting) > > run arbitrary command on insertion. Like launching CD player e.g. In fact we should extends supermount and devfs so that they retrieve more info from removable/plugable devices and provide an API and/or an userland service in order to inform D.E/third party software what's happen. -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
[Cooker] An interesting comment
http://lwn.net/Articles/35084/ Indeed, we see RH with high profit and many big contract, Suse with big announcement and Mandrake with I just wonder is it a problem with French government ? Not enough support from him ? Are they going to do like for Bull ? let it die in a lethargy ? I don't understand why mandrake and Bull don't join their force to promote a solution in server place as mdk seems to have the competence. Clic may be a good beginning if and only if a construtor is behind them assurring support. We ( French as I'm French ) we let die concorde, our army is in a bad way with it's equipment, we let die Vivendi, we put FT in a bad situation, we lost STMicrolectronics. We believe more in free market than U.S.A where governement help some of their enterprise , not with subvention but with contracts ( more efficient ). And in France ? Someone lmay tell me, Linux is for every country, etc ... But does nobody notice that countries are using linux and distribution never refuse to assume their origin ? everybody know that Suse is a german distibution, they're first in germany and have big contract with ... Germany administration. The same for RH ( U.S army, N.Y.S.E, ... ). There's also Red Flag, etc ... MandrakeSoft make very good products. For some things they are not enough pro, and their marketing is no efficient enough. No money, so take commercial with % rush on administration, rush everywhere ( France, Quebec, Africa, francophone countries ). Push hard. Make custom products for them, open or mid-open, but please live. Community spirit is great but when you will die we will only have RH or Suse :( -- FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fiventis
Re: double-clicking on files directly from CD's [was: Re:[Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes
Le jeu 19/06/2003 à 12:25, Andrey Borzenkov a écrit : > The right solution is to add support for external helper and query it > for mount options for a given device/fstype. That's a great idea ! > - do something sensible when device could not be mounted. the > "please insert CD" dialog that windows pops up would be very > useful for newbies as example. you have a problem. If u are in console mode how are u doing to do that ? I'm editing with vi and I think i something appear on my screen during my work I won't be happy, or show it with syslog. Now the hardest part : under X11. Are you going to use Xlib/Tk to show it ? or gtk/Qt ? but are are u going to make the difference ? This helper should not interact. In fact it's the responsability of the .DE ( KDE/Gnome/WM/... ) to monitor it ( like fam ) and when it trap the signal to decide what to do so that the user can easily disable it ( evenn if the helper is still monitoring for others users ) and have graphical integration > - if device polling is added (as some people om lkml keep suggesting) > run arbitrary command on insertion. Like launching CD player e.g. see above. Just monitor, give an API to monitor, access signal, identify signal ( a signal for an audio CD, for a DVD, for a data CD, for a VCD, ) and let a separate tool provide by the D.E or another app do the job. How are u going to knwo which CD player to launch ? users A may prefer KDE CD player under KDE, but users B may prefer gnome CD player still under KDE ! so your helper should just monitor, send signal, log, and keep an history and an API to access this. so it completly independant of the system, and you will have a module in emacs that will monitor it and emacs will tell me in a good way ( buffer ) what happen and will propose me if I want play the CD during my work
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*software
Le jeu 19/06/2003 à 07:08, Götz Waschk a écrit : > Am Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003, 12:51:48 Uhr MET, schrieb FACORAT Fabrice: > > Now I just want to make an assumption : users should not have access to > > package file list or at least for core or important or server software. > > To my mind it is a security risk as users doesn't need to knwo where > > they are. Maybe binary/doc for common packages but for core > > packages/server/critical packages they should not see them. > > You can limit the access to the rpm command if you are that paranoid, but > I don't understand why this could be a security problem. security by obscurity
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software
Le jeu 19/06/2003 à 10:19, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : > FACORAT Fabrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Le mar 17/06/2003 à 22:10, andre a écrit : > > > On Tuesday 17 June 2003 22:21, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > > > > > > Argh. "another addition to the GUI".. > > > > > > > More like rpmdrake and rpmdrake-remove are just not the right tool for > > > non-root users to select rpms. > > > > That's sounds sensible to me IMHO. > > Indeed users need to know which packages are installed and which ones > > can be installed, and for this need search features ( name, category, > > summary, origin ). > > So the best way is to do a separate tool. keep rpmdrake and > > rpmdrake-remove small ( so don't need to increase startup time ). > > Do a separate tool ( application finder, Drake Carpet, or whatever u > > want ) this one will have a longer startup time ( to compute installed > > and uninstalled packages ), one window, search criteria, grouping. > > Search results precise if package is installed or not ( with a color or > > with a checkbox ) and of course description of the package. > > It's highly unprobable I'm going to maintain a separate tool like > that :). Just a question : do u think it will be very hard to implement it ? in fact with this tool u just need to browse. No installation or removal, no need to show packages dependencies ( even if it may be very interesting a little bit as with dselect ), no ... In fact it is very complicated because this tool is usefull only if you can see the dependencies of the package ... Finally u may be right, it will be a hard job ...
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software
Le mar 17/06/2003 à 22:10, andre a écrit : > On Tuesday 17 June 2003 22:21, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > > Argh. "another addition to the GUI".. > > > More like rpmdrake and rpmdrake-remove are just not the right tool for > non-root users to select rpms. That's sounds sensible to me IMHO. Indeed users need to know which packages are installed and which ones can be installed, and for this need search features ( name, category, summary, origin ). So the best way is to do a separate tool. keep rpmdrake and rpmdrake-remove small ( so don't need to increase startup time ). Do a separate tool ( application finder, Drake Carpet, or whatever u want ) this one will have a longer startup time ( to compute installed and uninstalled packages ), one window, search criteria, grouping. Search results precise if package is installed or not ( with a color or with a checkbox ) and of course description of the package. Now I just want to make an assumption : users should not have access to package file list or at least for core or important or server software. To my mind it is a security risk as users doesn't need to knwo where they are. Maybe binary/doc for common packages but for core packages/server/critical packages they should not see them.
Re: [Cooker] Re: WARNING : GNOME 2 broken
Le jeu 12/06/2003 à 07:34, Frederic Crozat a écrit : > no, png file has moved into gnome-icon-theme package.. > as this screenshot and launch command icon miss [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q gnome-icon-theme gnome-panel gnome-icon-theme-1.0.5-1mdk gnome-panel-2.3.0-1mdk >From ~.xsession-errors : ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « gnome-run » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « panel -arrow-down » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « panel -arrow-up » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « panel -arrow-left » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « panel -arrow-right » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « panel -drawer » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « gnome -panel-type-menu » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « gnome -panel-type-sliding » du tableau de bord ** (gnome-panel:8957): WARNING **: Incapable de charger l'icône de stock « gnome -panel-type-floating » du tableau de bord --- L'erreur est humaine mais un veritable desastre necessite un ordinateur !
Re: [Cooker] Re: konqueror icon image previews fail
Le mer 11/06/2003 à 22:19, Jason Straight a écrit : > I now also checked every package that owns a lib ldd listed konqueror and > kioslave and kio_thumbnail.so all turned up clean with rpm -V. I have no idea > why this happens if others aren't seeing it. I've got the same problem too ! --- Il ne faut pas frapper un homme a terre. Il faut lui donner des coups de pieds; ca evite de se baisser.
Re: [Cooker] Firewire improvement request...
Le dim 01/06/2003 à 16:36, Faraj Meir a écrit : > > One of the big problem is simplicity why when I plug on my Firewire I > doesn't got > like on widows xp a windows with all related programs / action . > > worst , I've seen on ie1324.org there is a possibility to do that . > It would be a great feature , but not only for firwire , also for usb > , cd insertion etc... > > Please do it , I think it will be great for desktop user thanks . > Oh no, please not. This "feature" of Xp really annoy me, because me know what I want to do, or I just want to put the CD in the tray while working and I'm annoy aby a window everytime. Please not. I think the best practice will be dynamic icon on desktop but I don't know if dynamic support firewire.
[Cooker] Hollywood + detection
as the module is include in the lernel, lspcidrake should be able to display the module to use ( the same goes for harddrake ). [root@bastard linux-2.4.19-9mdk]# lspcidrake | grep Hollywood unknown : Sigma Designs, Inc.|REALmagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder [root@bastard linux-2.4.19-9mdk]# lspci | grep Hollywood 00:09.0 Multimedia controller: Sigma Designs, Inc. REALmagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder (rev 02) Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Multimedia controller: Sigma Designs, Inc. REALmagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder (rev 2). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdd80 [0xdd8f]. -- Make it right before you make it faster. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
[Cooker] [MCC BUG] drakconnect and drakfont display bug
If I have the minimal size for Mandrake Control center, There is some display pb with drakconnect and drakfont. buttons seems to have a position relative to the window and not with the others. The resize is not done in a nice way. see following screenshosts : http://linux-wizard.tuxfamily.org/cooker/drakconf_bug.jpg http://linux-wizard.tuxfamily.org/cooker/draknet_bug.jpg -- Follow each decision as closely as possible with its associated action. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] speedtouch mgmt file
Le Mercredi 4 Septembre 2002 20:57, dave a écrit : > how about putting the speedtouch mgmt.o file in the next build of > mandrake as it is so annoying to be told that i have to manually input > it into the usr/share/speedtouch directory. if the speedtouch driver rpm > is incl. in the dist. then please also put the mgmt file in there when > it configs the network on install. 1°/ mgmt.o is a closed proprietary firmware, mdksoft can't include it in GPLed/free downloadabled edition 2°/ buy a mdk pack, they are included and will be automatically installed then -- Avoid temporary variables. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakconf-9.0-0.18mdk, new icons set
Le Lundi 2 Septembre 2002 11:15, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakconf Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 9.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 0.18mdk Build Date: Mon Sep 2 10:58:14 * Mon Sep 02 2002 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9.0-0.18mdk > - as per ln advice, use more various icons for wizards New icons set is very nice. 4 remarks : - drakxservices and drakfont still have the old icones ones. using black instead of blue should be sufficient - for the wizard, an easy way to personnalize each icones will be just add a little green box ( bottom right side ) with what the icone is for ( DNS, FTP, News, etc ) - draktv should not use the default icon for XFdrake. why not the one in harddrake ? - I must admit that the one for rpmdrake source is not so obvious ( even I managed to figure out after ) -- Write clearly - don't be too clever. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] I hate msec
Le Lundi 2 Septembre 2002 18:19, Florin a écrit : > simply do a "rpm -e msec --nodeps" And we are all waiting for a GUI for next release of mdk ( 9.1 ? ) -- Watch out for off-by-one errors. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-1.1.9-22mdk
Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 16:30, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > --=-=-= > Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 1.1.9 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 22mdk Build Date: Wed Aug 28 16:05:56 > --=-=-= > > * Wed Aug 28 2002 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.1.9-22mdk > > - harddrake: don't display the menu bar in embedded mode, but a "quit" > button nice. thx a lot. -- Use data arrays to avoid repetitive control sequences. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] rpmnew?
Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 13:33, Robert Fox a écrit : > Some files were changed with ".rpmnew" > > RPMDRAKE didn't say which files and although I found them, what are we > supposed to do with them? Replace the older version? this would not be > so clear for a newbie! the answer is not simple. you customise a config file, if rpm replace it you need to redone everything. But with a new version of the prog your old config file may be obsolete/incompatible, but as you have the new have you can recustomise the new one. Imagine each time I upgrade samba , rpm replace my smb.conf,... that's a pain. But with smb.conf.rpmnew I can for example add support for winbind ( as there is more example ), etc ... -- Avoid multiple exits from loops. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
[Cooker] Mandrake Tools UI Guidelines status & discussions
+ In MCC the log box ( bottom ) should have scrollbar. Is it possible to set a limit of displayed line in order to reduce the number of lines displayed ? + the left side menu should have a Quit icone in order to quit rapidly MCC without going to the menu + Boot floppy module : replace Cancel with Exit, no french translation + Boot configuration module : replace Cancel with Exit + Auto Install module : Ok <-> Apply , Cancel <-> Exit + Harddrake : use a menu to quit instead of a command button. it is not consistent with the rest of mdktools. should have a quit/exit button and a Help button in embedded mode + XFdrake : Cancel <-> Exit + TV module : Cancel <-> Exit , Auto-detect should be before 3Dfx and not after ( force list sorting ? ) for card model, auto-detect should be before Alps and not after ( same reasons ). If a select Cancel the first time, I should quit the module and not be asking my TV norme + keyboard : Cancel <-> exit + mouse : idem + printer : why nmap ? ( aoû 27 12:35:37 bastard printerdrake[14073]: installed packages foomatic printer-utils printer-testpages nmap scli gimpprint ) + scanner : Cancel <-> exit I note that None if the first in the list, so it is possible to force list sorting duplicates entry : under Hewlett packard : 3300C after SHARP : ScanJet 3300c are they HP scanner or not ? if not should be under Others. There's also Scanjet 3400c and Scanjet 4300c not defined under HP section. Seems to be because of the fact that c is minus + diskdrake : if I click on Terminer ( finish ) I always have a doubt, is it going to modify something. To make things clear we need a : Apply Exit NFS mount point : Cancel if before finish. should be after SMB mount point : idem. when does smb share are mount and configure ? after I click on mount point -> select one -> ok or mount point -> select one -> ok -> finish . If the answer is the second, so finish should be named Apply. If the answer is n°1, ok should be renamed apply + Network Connection : it's a mix between a wizard and a config tool. if we have a list of NIC available, we should be able to configure each card by selecting the the card, click configure -> print info ( IP, netmask, gateway, static/DHCP ) -> modify info -> apply/cancel. The configure button maybe should be shown only if expert mode is selected. In the list of available NIC, should we have MAC address and IRQ ? Note : my computer is connecter via LAN connection to my linux gateway. when I'm looking in Internet access, I have no type and interface defined. I should have LAN and eth0 + security : no embedded mode Ok and Cancel button don't have the same look and feel ( one seem to be 2D the other 3D ) Contrary to others mdktools, OK and Cancel button are not closed and align in the right side or centered + menu : does not show vailable user, only root I enter a false username and after a true username, and nothing happen. before launching " su username -c "/usr/bin//menudrake &" " it should check if the name exist. aoû 27 13:06:49 bastard menus_launcher.pl[15275]: ### Program is starting ### aoû 27 13:07:33 bastard menus_launcher.pl[15275]: launched command: su with -c "/usr/bin//menudrake &" aoû 27 13:07:45 bastard menus_launcher.pl[15275]: launched command: su will -c "/usr/bin//menudrake &" + fonts : does not have really the same layout than others mdktools + logs : no french translation Cancel <-> exit because we only show log, save them, and when we have finish we quit/exit the prog. we don't modify settings + terminal : maybe a close button under the term may be a good idea even we can easily closed the term with a CTRL+D + userdrake : not the same layout. we have menu, maybe we should have at least 2 buttons : Apply Exit the icon in MCC is the generic one, why not using the menu one ? + Server config : I don't want to launch by fear to mess my net config as it ask me to config my network ... -- Each module should do one thing well. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
[Cooker] MCC child process issue or not ?
I launch MCC, test every module and before closing it I've got this ( see below ). fortunately closing mcc kill process in the right way [will@bastard will]$ ps -fe | grep defunct root 13864 13302 0 12:14 pts/300:00:05 [logdrake ] root 13867 13302 0 12:15 pts/300:00:01 [logdrake ] root 13880 13302 0 12:18 pts/300:00:01 [drakfloppy ] root 13883 13302 0 12:19 pts/300:00:01 [drakfloppy ] root 13886 13302 0 12:19 pts/300:00:01 [drakboot ] root 13891 13302 0 12:20 pts/300:00:01 [drakboot ] root 13896 13302 0 12:20 pts/300:00:01 [drakfloppy ] root 13901 13302 0 12:21 pts/300:00:01 [drakautoinst ] root 13903 13302 0 12:22 pts/300:00:03 [harddrake2 ] root 14050 13302 0 12:29 pts/300:00:02 [XFdrake ] root 14053 13302 0 12:29 pts/300:00:01 [XFdrake ] root 14056 13302 0 12:30 pts/300:00:02 [XFdrake ] root 14065 13302 0 12:30 pts/300:00:01 [drakxtv ] root 14069 13302 0 12:34 pts/300:00:01 [keyboarddrake ] root 14071 13302 0 12:34 pts/300:00:01 [mousedrake ] root 14073 13302 0 12:35 pts/300:00:02 [printerdrake ] root 14446 13302 0 12:38 pts/300:00:01 [scannerdrake ] root 14459 13302 0 12:45 pts/300:00:02 [diskdrake ] root 14478 13302 0 12:47 pts/300:00:01 [diskdrake ] root 14491 13302 0 12:48 pts/300:00:01 [diskdrake ] root 14504 13302 0 12:48 pts/300:00:01 [diskdrake ] root 14517 13302 0 12:48 pts/300:00:01 [diskdrake ] root 14532 13302 0 12:49 pts/300:00:01 [diskdrake ] root 14552 13302 0 12:51 pts/300:00:01 [diskdrake ] root 14565 13302 0 12:51 pts/300:00:01 [diskdrake ] root 14567 13302 0 12:52 pts/300:00:01 [drakconnect ] root 14641 13302 0 12:53 pts/300:00:04 [drakconnect ] root 15265 13302 0 13:04 pts/300:00:01 [drakproxy ] root 15267 13302 0 13:04 pts/300:00:01 [drakgw ] root 15269 13302 0 13:04 pts/300:00:00 [draksec ] root 15270 13302 0 13:06 pts/300:00:01 [tinyfirewall ] root 15275 13302 0 13:06 pts/300:00:00 [menus_launcher. ] root 15282 13302 0 13:09 pts/300:00:01 [drakxservices ] root 15285 13302 0 13:10 pts/300:00:00 [drakfont ] root 15288 13302 0 13:11 pts/300:00:00 [clock.pl ] root 15290 13302 0 13:12 pts/300:00:01 [logdrake ] root 15296 13302 0 13:14 pts/300:00:00 [sh ] root 15347 13302 0 13:15 pts/300:00:00 [consolehelper-g ] will 15387 0 13:43 pts/400:00:00 grep defunct -- Watch out for off-by-one errors. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] Keramic Theme and Crystal Icons to make it into 9.0?
Le Lundi 26 Août 2002 23:44, Todd Franklin a écrit : > Those are very easy to download and install yourself. Go to > kde-look.org for icon sets and themes. or use plf -- Make it right before you make it faster. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] New Quanta (for KDE3)
Le Mercredi 31 Juillet 2002 15:10, Marcel Pol a écrit : > There are additional packages with html, css, javascript and php > documentation. > Would it be worthwhile to try to make a package of that? oh weah ! I wonder why mdksofgt did not include the doc with quyanta package ... Is there licensing issues ? -- Watch out for off-by-one errors. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] mdk9.0 DVD-R/RW ??
Le Mercredi 31 Juillet 2002 11:42, Warly a écrit : > DVD+RW are a different media (however latest DVD burner are > able to burn DVD-RW and DVD+RW IIRC). It can be use as block > devices and directly handled by the kernel as any removable > devices. what does this mean ? does this mean that if I put a DVD+RW in a DVD+RW recorder I will be able to write data as if it was a HD/zip/floppy/ with a single cp/mv ? -- Use statement labels that mean something. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] Galeon-1.2.5 crashing like mad on forms
Le Lundi 29 Juillet 2002 12:10, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : > Le Lundi 29 Juillet 2002 11:09, Andreas Simon a écrit : > > Here is one: > > Start Galeon, open URL http://www.gnomedesktop.com . There on the > > right is a 'Survey'. Click the first option 'More features' and then > > press 'Vote'. ok the pb seems to occurs only when we select a radio button -- Keep it simple to make it faster. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
[Cooker] [BUGS] pdf2dsc not working and so kghostview
If I try to see a pdf with kghostview, nothing will be displayed. I finally find why. pdf2dsc seems to have problems [will@bastard will]$ pdf2dsc --help Error: /undefinedfilename in --file-- Operand stack: PDFfile (--help) (r) Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1051/1123(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:68/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: 2 Current file position is 1916 ESP Ghostscript 7.05.4: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 + when I launch kghostview : Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". fcntl: Bad file descriptor fcntl: Bad file descriptor kio (KDirWatch): Can't use FAM (fam daemon not running?) kio (KDirWatch): Available methods: Stat kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVConfigDialog::readSettings kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget::setupWidget() kparts: MainWindow::createGUI for kgvpart kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVRun::foundMimeType( application/pdf ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVPart::slotMimetype: type=application/pdf kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::openFile kghostview (kdegraphics): Pdf2dsc: started kghostview (kdegraphics): Pdf2dsc: process exited kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::openPDFFileContinue kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::openPSFile kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::showPage( 0 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::orientation( 0 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::computePageSize( y792x612 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget::setupWidget() kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: starting interpreter kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: sendPS kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: gs_input kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: sendPS kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: sendPS kio (KDirWatch): Added File /home/will/Documents/1305ws1_file.pdf [KDirWatch-1] kio (KDirWatch): Global Poll Freq is now 500 msec kio (KDirWatch): Started Polling Timer, freq 500 kio (KDirWatch): Setup Stat (freq 500) for /home/will/Documents/1305ws1_file.pdf kio (KDirWatch): KDirWatch-1 stopped scanning /home/will/Documents/1305ws1_file.pdf (now 0 watchers) kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: gs_input kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: gs_input kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: gs_input kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: received output kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: received output kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: received output kghostview (kdegraphics): KPSWidget: process exited kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::showPage( 1 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::orientation( 1 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::computePageSize( y792x612 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::showPage( 2 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::orientation( 2 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::computePageSize( y792x612 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::showPage( 0 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::orientation( 0 ) kghostview (kdegraphics): KGVMiniWidget::computePageSize( y792x612 ) -- Localise input and output in subroutines. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] Galeon-1.2.5 crashing like mad on forms
Le Lundi 29 Juillet 2002 11:09, Andreas Simon a écrit : > Here is one: > Start Galeon, open URL http://www.gnomedesktop.com . There on the > right is a 'Survey'. Click the first option 'More features' and then > press 'Vote'. I can reproduces this too [will@bastard will]$ rpm -q galeon mozilla galeon-1.2.5-2mdk mozilla-1.0.0-9mdk -- Make your program read from top to bottom. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 beta1 bugs report, metacity
Le Jeudi 25 Juillet 2002 19:23, Mark K. Bilbo a écrit : > > No, seriously, I can't seem to find any way to change window managers. > Maybe I'm overlooking something but none of the Gnome 2 controls appear > to have any such option available. + use gconf-editor : desktop\gnome\window_manager key : default type : texte + or : killall swafish ; metacity & and after ask to save the session -- Modularise. Use subroutines. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] kernel paging problem crash every day at 4:03...
Le Mercredi 24 Juillet 2002 14:18, Luca Landi a écrit : > with runnig: Apache-1.3.26-5mdk , Jakarta-4.0.3(j2se-1.4.0_01), > Postgresql-7.2.1-5mdk, kde-3.0.2-16mdk, and more maybe a memleak in a KDE app. make a top 30 minutes, 10 minutes and just before the crash to see which app take all the memory -- Watch out for off-by-one errors. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] Feature request...
Le Mercredi 24 Juillet 2002 12:10, Pixel a écrit : > that could be done... what other device people would like to save > package lists? IDE/SCSI and // zip LS120 Jaz NFS or ftp server -- Parenthesise to avoid ambiguity. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Re: [Cooker] [Request] XFdrake weirdness : what about a redesign ?
Le Mardi 23 Juillet 2002 12:04, Mattias Dahlberg a écrit : > That's music to my ears! Looking forward to it. XFdrake works fine as it > is now (good job) but the UI is a little tricky. Hint: Use tabs. :) Tabs for everything ? konqueror, mozilla, galeon ... what's next ? -- Take care to branch the right way on equality. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
