Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Le Lundi 3 Février 2003 13:12, Warly a écrit : So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to lead kde team to answer you. Maybe KDE team could answer to other people then ? For my part, i don't see any advantage over original one. Should i suggest investing time and energy in KDE package granularity or MDK policy compliance rather than reinventing the wheel once again? And finally, i'm rather uneasy with this kind of brutal change without any discussion. Does community only means unpayed beta-testers ? -- Software bugs are impossible to detect by anybody except the end user. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°10
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
En réponse à Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to lead kde team to answer you. -- Warly Hi Warly, Ok, the way to make react cooker users was not the best one but it has worked and that was what I wanted to do. A simple message wouldn't have a such effect and nobody will answer it. So excuse me for the way I do this but I have some reasons : - I love Mandrake because you make a very good job, - I love MandrakeSoft because it is a French company (Vive la France :) and you make GPL softs and you respect free software philosophy, But: - I don't want Mandrake to make the same mistake than RedHat did few weeks ago, - I want that you explain why you change kdm and don't fork to make a drakdm, - I am a user of kdm and I don't want it to dissapear, - I want you the next time to inform us of the change and, why not, to ask us to give our opinion about it (via MandrakeClub or MandrakeForum), - I don't want you to lose users because of such a mistake. See my reaction as the reaction of a user who don't want to see his favorite company making something that will not help it but deserve it. Long life to Linux Mandrake and to MandrakeSoft and excuse me again if I hurd some of you. Shift PS : Drakdm will be the best DM but drakdm is not kdm so split it in two packages. Thanks a lot
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:49, Franck Quélain wrote: En réponse à Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to lead kde team to answer you. -- Warly Hi Warly, Ok, the way to make react cooker users was not the best one but it has worked and that was what I wanted to do. A simple message wouldn't have a such effect and nobody will answer it. Actually, several people had complained about the changes to KDM before your message. There was no need for the manner in which you wrote it. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
En réponse à Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:49, Franck Quélain wrote: En réponse à Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! What a very smart way to lead kde team to answer you. -- Warly Hi Warly, Ok, the way to make react cooker users was not the best one but it has worked and that was what I wanted to do. A simple message wouldn't have a such effect and nobody will answer it. Actually, several people had complained about the changes to KDM before your message. There was no need for the manner in which you wrote it. -- adamw Sorry again but I don't see these messages :( Pardon Lo siento ... (Sorry but I don't know other languages)
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On Mon 2003-02-03 at 14:49:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Ok, the way to make react cooker users was not the best one but it has worked and that was what I wanted to do. Ah, well, simply assuming causality is a bit far-fetched here. You could also say that Mandrake changed it despite your reaction, i.e. they stand over the the, well, impertinent tone. I am very impressed how they stood above that. I am not sure that I could. Regards, Benjamin. msg89522/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER??????
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Shift wrote: Moreover I noticed that the login input field has been removed. The user has only the right to choose a user in a list. But HOW this user will do if the linux box has thousnds of users It is an horrible waste of time :( No, I had setup kdm previously to no show users, so my mdkkdm still had a user/password login field. And I suspect the behaviour can still be controlled with the KDE control center module, though I haven't tried. I would like to have the usual kdm back though. Do we need to take this up on MandrakeClub to be heard? IMHO, work on kdm should be going towards making gdm and kdm compatible, so that when in kde with gdm, I can choose shutdown/logout/reboot from kde, or when in gnome with kdm also. And so that when runing kdm I can choose New login or whatever better fits for fast user switching. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Saturday 01 February 2003 10:12, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Shift wrote: Moreover I noticed that the login input field has been removed. The user has only the right to choose a user in a list. But HOW this user will do if the linux box has thousnds of users It is an horrible waste of time :( No, I had setup kdm previously to no show users, so my mdkkdm still had a user/password login field. And I suspect the behaviour can still be controlled with the KDE control center module, though I haven't tried. I would like to have the usual kdm back though. Do we need to take this up on MandrakeClub to be heard? IMHO, work on kdm should be going towards making gdm and kdm compatible, so that when in kde with gdm, I can choose shutdown/logout/reboot from kde, or when in gnome with kdm also. And so that when runing kdm I can choose New login or whatever better fits for fast user switching. Buchan I completely agree to the contents of the above posts. The choice of language OTOH is an entirely different matter... :-\ Still, continued unpredictable removals and changes of my kde environment will ultimately cause me to ditch Mandrake Linux and start using something like Debian That would be a shame because Mandrake seems to be really heading in the right direction. Are our voices heard at all here? Can somebody give us Mandrake's policy on the direction of Mandrake / kde integration? Kan we expect more and more removals or changes of kde base packages in the future? Thx John
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 01:57, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. There's a Mandrake theme for GDM...has been since 9.0, I think. It's quite nice. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:57, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. GDM use gtk and if it is not installed (Because I can use only QT apps if I want) and I don't want to install it just for that :)
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:41, Shift wrote: Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:57, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. GDM use gtk and if it is not installed (Because I can use only QT apps if I want) and I don't want to install it just for that :) Well given all the Mandrake tools use GTK, I'd be surprised if there were many Mandrake PCs without it :) -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 13:00, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:41, Shift wrote: Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:57, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : So use GDM. You can use GDM to login to KDE - unless they changed that also. GDM use gtk and if it is not installed (Because I can use only QT apps if I want) and I don't want to install it just for that :) Well given all the Mandrake tools use GTK, I'd be surprised if there were many Mandrake PCs without it :) I am a master of vim/sed/grep and I configure my box only by hand.. Who says I am not credible ? :)) Of course my excuse was not very good ;) But if Mandrake tools used QT it will be more better because regarding the time gtk1 apps take to be migrated to gtk2 we will have gtk1 and gtk2 install in our box for years !! But that's an other troll^Wsubject Shift
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 07:37, Shift wrote: But if Mandrake tools used QT it will be more better because regarding the time gtk1 apps take to be migrated to gtk2 we will have gtk1 and gtk2 install in our box for years !! But that's an other troll^Wsubject GTK1.2 is only 1.8 meg, and it's probably still the most common GUI for linux-specific apps. I think keeping it around is hardly a huge burden. Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
kde, or when in gnome with kdm also. And so that when runing kdm I can choose New login or whatever better fits for fast user switching. BTW, the code for that is mostly in there (it was actually working for a while during KDE3.1 development) -- including a KMenu New Session entry; the same for the locked screen password dialog) but it was disabled since a good UI that doesn't confuse users didn't make i18n freeze, IIRC. You might be able to activate the feature by listing additional servers in Xservers file, but I am not certain.
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER??????
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Maks Orlovich wrote: kde, or when in gnome with kdm also. And so that when runing kdm I can choose New login or whatever better fits for fast user switching. BTW, the code for that is mostly in there (it was actually working for a while during KDE3.1 development) -- including a KMenu New Session entry; the same for the locked screen password dialog) but it was disabled since a good UI that doesn't confuse users didn't make i18n freeze, IIRC. You might be able to activate the feature by listing additional servers in Xservers file, but I am not certain. Well, *that* is the kind of thing I think Mandrarakesoft should rather work on, rather than stuffing KDM up even more. There would be enough time to get a UI tested and translated for 9.1, but only if no more time is spent on a forked kdm. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:38, Jason Straight a écrit : Hehe, thanks for having the balls to say it the way I wanted to. I have no problem with mandrake having their own login manager, I don't even care if it's default if that's the way they want to go, but I have to admit that this type of move with actually replacing the KDE standard and not having it available got me started on my debian download tonight after 4 years of running nothing but mandrake. I think they should just make a separate login manager in it's own package like gdm, call it mdm, and setup /etc/sysconfig/desktop with =mdm humm, I totally support this too. I dont really understand this change without talking about it to the community before. Second, I agree we need to be able to choose the regular kde kdm login manager if we want. Pascal Cavy
[Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to be worst than RedHat who patch KDE ? Everybody has said that RedHat had a bad attitude and they had lost lot's of users. You are making the same but your changes are MUCH MORE VISIBLE and the Linux web sites will not take much time to make a bad review of the NEW FUCKINg feature I just want to upgrade my MandrakeClub level to help you but if you continue in this direction I won't and I will just let MandrakeSoft die. So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! Shift PS : Or create your own DM but don't touch to kdm. Kdm is part of KDE !!
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER??????
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:13:45AM +0100, Shift wrote: Hi all, So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! I can't speak for MandrakeSoft, but my feelings are So long, and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. -- Ryan T. Sammartino http://members.shaw.ca/ryants/ The surest protection against temptation is cowardice. -- Mark Twain
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Yes kdm is a part of KDE and guess what. THEY CHANGED IT NOT MANDRAKE! So live with it. I compiled a couple of the release candidates, betas, and even alpha's and this change was made from early on. If you'd chosen to compile it earlier you wouldn't been able to provide some input. But yah didn't no one complained and it's here to stay. Have a nice day :-D On Friday 31 January 2003 20:13, Shift wrote: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to be worst than RedHat who patch KDE ? Everybody has said that RedHat had a bad attitude and they had lost lot's of users. You are making the same but your changes are MUCH MORE VISIBLE and the Linux web sites will not take much time to make a bad review of the NEW FUCKINg feature I just want to upgrade my MandrakeClub level to help you but if you continue in this direction I won't and I will just let MandrakeSoft die. So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! Shift PS : Or create your own DM but don't touch to kdm. Kdm is part of KDE !!
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login manager. SHIT that thing is ugly. Mandrake please, change it back. On Friday 31 January 2003 20:11, Laurent Culioli wrote: Le sam 01/02/2003 à 02:13, Shift a écrit : Hi all, hi shift I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Im totaly agree with you , the mdklogin manager is ugly and anti-ergonomic , IMHO its a very bad idea using two step to login. i hope this is only an alpha release :/
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Friday 31 January 2003 6:13 pm, Shift wrote: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. I don't agree with the animosity--brand KDM away all you want--but I do agree that the two-stage login thing is *quite* annoying. This should at least be an option. -- Wesley J. Landaker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP FP: C99E DF40 54F6 B625 FD48 B509 A3DE 8D79 541F F830
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:37, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit : KDM branding can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake star logo. No change needs to be made to KDM itself. Restart your X server you will see that it is not just a start and a background but a entirally new DM. I am not against that but PLEASE, DON'T MODIFY KDM and MAKE A SEPARATE PACKAGE (drakdm ?) Modifying a big part of antother project is not a patch but a FORK. It is very bad and it is against free software philosophy (IMHO) However, a login screen will not make me change distros, but it may cause me to change login managers - but that is why I like Linux, if I don't like some design decision, I can always make a change myself. I want too change DM too but they had REPLACE kdm with this HORRIBLE DM with Mandrake stars everywhere :(( TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:54, Shift a écrit : Modifying a big part of antother project is not a patch but a FORK. It is very bad and it is against free software philosophy (IMHO) Presicion : What I want to say is that replacing a big part of a program and allways call it with the original name is bad because people will associate kdm with this new application. So please, fork or remove this big modifications
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 08:17 pm, orville wrote: Yes kdm is a part of KDE and guess what. THEY CHANGED IT NOT MANDRAKE! So live with it. I compiled a couple of the release candidates, betas, and even alpha's and this change was made from early on. If you'd chosen to compile it earlier you wouldn't been able to provide some input. But yah didn't no one complained and it's here to stay. Have a nice day :-D So kde changed it in after the release went final? And totally broke it's usefulness and compatability with kcontrol? All those nice features that are implied in kcontrol now do nothing. How was it that in the first final kdebase 3.1 that it didn't have this nasty kdm_greet? - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjsl9RFHZPcobeHxAQIE3gP/fZJnF8nVjaZSFHIiGVp/oPZCxizrFuzC b3n2VhjR2YNUbWXqJPyLKsB/XSywyBxbDHQa03UgrmSvbtF4L7ktOmwY4pTeoSGl Ksq0/6/vDL+JHmBVc3bKPO0jkJNCu3MC8XscH4GYTAj6pBXXlXw/XrfTSLvqvsYl b3EKrBZu1vA= =jXZ2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 January 2003 08:37 pm, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: KDM branding can be accomplished with a simple kdmrc change to use a Mandrake specific background image along with the Mandrake star logo. No change needs to be made to KDM itself. However, a login screen will not make me change distros, but it may cause me to change login managers - but that is why I like Linux, if I don't like some design decision, I can always make a change myself. Except you lose functinality by using another dm, when you logout of kde you can't chose to shutdown or reboot immediately, which isn't really a big deal, but a nice one. - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjsmaBFHZPcobeHxAQKCfAQAunZZvqzeoJJszHm/hxrOP2bgevmlWmO2 LXBpI3xljSwD5hkVOW+lHIVfQAAfdClhmefP0/RJHsWkLtIBWGca+al2mxAPpsle fgKQlYBD2P5cKc5EQ6l2y31nAKF4gbbgrxgS+eJGde2Xv44M1t9Dpk117GIJMxUS Zi7R0vrlnR4= =NZ0G -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 January 2003 08:13 pm, Shift wrote: Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to be worst than RedHat who patch KDE ? Everybody has said that RedHat had a bad attitude and they had lost lot's of users. You are making the same but your changes are MUCH MORE VISIBLE and the Linux web sites will not take much time to make a bad review of the NEW FUCKINg feature I just want to upgrade my MandrakeClub level to help you but if you continue in this direction I won't and I will just let MandrakeSoft die. So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! Shift PS : Or create your own DM but don't touch to kdm. Kdm is part of KDE !! Hehe, thanks for having the balls to say it the way I wanted to. I have no problem with mandrake having their own login manager, I don't even care if it's default if that's the way they want to go, but I have to admit that this type of move with actually replacing the KDE standard and not having it available got me started on my debian download tonight after 4 years of running nothing but mandrake. I think they should just make a separate login manager in it's own package like gdm, call it mdm, and setup /etc/sysconfig/desktop with =mdm - -- Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1796276 pgp: http://www.JeetKuneDoMaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjslLhFHZPcobeHxAQIcWAQAtt7cQKf6t7iqxQBaEZYFS1WWqa45TyDr XmrvQYHHjSknyfvTSV3EKCVScDRPtIL5mtFmOWhIh6LHI97oSsUY+1Yly/qTQG8P 8PeCAQu4IYVKw6IQ5o5uyt2cR85juxxDZJSIqUXOmPdtgMDmwjM5OrVIgMCFiiqU JQEVZwQsmWE= =PBRn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Saturday 01 February 2003 01:31, Laurent Culioli wrote: Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 02:29, orville a écrit : I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login manager. SHIT that thing is ugly. Mandrake please, change it back. http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/kdebase/ see the 4 big patch kdebase-3.1-new-kdm* umm... is there a way to take a screenshot? I'd like to see what caused Shift's ...errr... agressive post. Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like Edit textfile.txt (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?)
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 6:29 pm, orville wrote: I digress. After reading laurent's post I decided to log off and see what all the hubbub is about. THAT is definitely not KDE's new login Another two big problems with this monster: 1) No more familiar keyboard only typing: logintabpasswordenter to log in. And no, I don't want to type: tabtabarrowarrowarrowarrowentertabpasswordenter -- and neither does anyone else. 2) How do I log in as root? As a user that's not listed? I only list two users (of *many*) on the login screen. 3) Along with #2, the answer might be list all users -- this is a well known BAD security practice--especially if you are using NIS (and there are thousands--for example, at work). We sure don't want the thanks for telling me the login name of everyone on your entire network just by letting me look at a login screen syndrome. Anyway, this is perhaps a work in progress, and perhaps it will get better, but it definately should not *replace* kdm. -- Wesley J. Landaker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP FP: C99E DF40 54F6 B625 FD48 B509 A3DE 8D79 541F F830
Re: [Cooker] WHY HAVE YOU CHANGE KDM WITH THIS HORRIBLE LOGIN MANAGER ??????
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 02:13, Shift a écrit : Hi all, I just upgrade my Mandrake and when I restart my X session my kdm has been replaced by an HORRIBLE login manager. Can you explain me why Mandrake has patch the original kdm to changed it in this fucking DM that I hate ? Do you want to be worst than RedHat who patch KDE ? Everybody has said that RedHat had a bad attitude and they had lost lot's of users. You are making the same but your changes are MUCH MORE VISIBLE and the Linux web sites will not take much time to make a bad review of the NEW FUCKINg feature I just want to upgrade my MandrakeClub level to help you but if you continue in this direction I won't and I will just let MandrakeSoft die. So REMOVE THIS FUCKING LOGIN MANAGER OR YOU WILL LOSE ME AND MOREOVER MONEY !! Shift PS : Or create your own DM but don't touch to kdm. Kdm is part of KDE !! Moreover I noticed that the login input field has been removed. The user has only the right to choose a user in a list. But HOW this user will do if the linux box has thousnds of users It is an horrible waste of time :(
