Re: [Cooker] printer packages
Le Dimanche 19 Octobre 2003 00:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > >> > Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 11:43, Buchan Milne a écrit : > >> >> No significant advantage over CUPS (AFAIR). > >> > > >> > So would you prefer cups for a printer not shared (for both security > >> > >> and size reasons) ? > >> > >> I have no such printers ;-). > > > > unlike many people (such as standalone desktops) ;-) > > Huh? What is that? ;-) (sorry, but no place I have been recently has less > than 2 computers, and if you have 2 computers and a printer ...). lucky man! ;-) > > >> Till probably has some other reasons ... > > > > I wonder which ones. > > > > > > I found this script: > > /etc/dynamic/scripts/functions.script > > > > check_activated $0 > > > > MODE=660 > > OWNER=lp.sys > > > > if [ -x /usr/sbin/update-alternatives ]; then > > TYPE=`/usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display lpr 2> /dev/null | > > grep > > currently | cut -f 6 -d ' '` > > case "$TYPE" in > > *lpd) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.lp;; > > *cups) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.sys;; > > *pdq) MODE=666;; # should be done via pam_console > > esac > > fi > > ... > > > > Is pdq less secure than others for this ? > > In some ways yes, in others, no. > > PDQ doesn't have a spooler, so all users need to be able to print. > Currently it looks like this is just done by makeing the print devices > world-writeable. As the comment says, pam_console (see > /etc/security/console.perms) would be better, which is how a lot of other > devices are managed. > > Of course, PDQ doesn't have a daemon running with elevated priveleges > (like CUPS does). > > So, with PDQ you are allowing any logged in user to send any data they > like to the machine, with CUPS you are allowing any remote user (unless > you do some work securing it) to send data to port 631 on your machine. > Worst case scenario for PDQ is someone sends data to your printer that > does it some harm (or uses your paper). With CUPS, they could again > elevated priveleges, *and* waste all your paper ;-). > > For a single-user, non-networked machine, PDQ is better. But, for a Then why not include it in the 3 cd set? Most of the users need it. Few people around me have more than only one computer and few of them have a network. :-) (All have an other os! :-<) _If you are right_, i hope it has been included in discovery edition whith choice for the user to use it or not... > network, CUPS is just so much easier (easier than Windows printing since > you just plug a machine in the network and it finds all printers, and you > don't have to worry about printer drivers etc). > > Regards, > Buchan
Re: [Cooker] printer packages
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : >> > Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 11:43, Buchan Milne a écrit : >> >> No significant advantage over CUPS (AFAIR). >> > >> > So would you prefer cups for a printer not shared (for both security >> and size reasons) ? >> >> I have no such printers ;-). > > unlike many people (such as standalone desktops) ;-) Huh? What is that? ;-) (sorry, but no place I have been recently has less than 2 computers, and if you have 2 computers and a printer ...). > >> Till probably has some other reasons ... > > I wonder which ones. > > > I found this script: > /etc/dynamic/scripts/functions.script > > check_activated $0 > > MODE=660 > OWNER=lp.sys > > if [ -x /usr/sbin/update-alternatives ]; then > TYPE=`/usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display lpr 2> /dev/null | > grep > currently | cut -f 6 -d ' '` > case "$TYPE" in > *lpd) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.lp;; > *cups) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.sys;; > *pdq) MODE=666;; # should be done via pam_console > esac > fi > ... > > Is pdq less secure than others for this ? In some ways yes, in others, no. PDQ doesn't have a spooler, so all users need to be able to print. Currently it looks like this is just done by makeing the print devices world-writeable. As the comment says, pam_console (see /etc/security/console.perms) would be better, which is how a lot of other devices are managed. Of course, PDQ doesn't have a daemon running with elevated priveleges (like CUPS does). So, with PDQ you are allowing any logged in user to send any data they like to the machine, with CUPS you are allowing any remote user (unless you do some work securing it) to send data to port 631 on your machine. Worst case scenario for PDQ is someone sends data to your printer that does it some harm (or uses your paper). With CUPS, they could again elevated priveleges, *and* waste all your paper ;-). For a single-user, non-networked machine, PDQ is better. But, for a network, CUPS is just so much easier (easier than Windows printing since you just plug a machine in the network and it finds all printers, and you don't have to worry about printer drivers etc). Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] printer packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > > Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 11:43, Buchan Milne a écrit : > >> No significant advantage over CUPS (AFAIR). > > > > So would you prefer cups for a printer not shared (for both security and > > size reasons) ? > > I have no such printers ;-). unlike many people (such as standalone desktops) ;-) > Till probably has some other reasons ... I wonder which ones. I found this script: /etc/dynamic/scripts/functions.script check_activated $0 MODE=660 OWNER=lp.sys if [ -x /usr/sbin/update-alternatives ]; then TYPE=`/usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display lpr 2> /dev/null | grep currently | cut -f 6 -d ' '` case "$TYPE" in *lpd) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.lp;; *cups) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.sys;; *pdq) MODE=666;; # should be done via pam_console esac fi ... Is pdq less secure than others for this ?
Re: [Cooker] printer packages
> Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 11:43, Buchan Milne a écrit : >> No significant advantage over CUPS (AFAIR). > > So would you prefer cups for a printer not shared (for both security and > size reasons) ? I have no such printers ;-). Till probably has some other reasons ...
Re: [Cooker] printer packages
Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 11:43, Buchan Milne a écrit : > stephlub wrote: > > I just saw today that pdq was'nt in 9.1 > > Do you mean 9.2? I am sure pdq was in 9.1. Anyway, it's now in contrib > (AFAIK). I'm afraid no, urpmq saw it only in contrib. :-/ > > > I would like to know when and why it has been removed > > It was moved to contrib about 2 months ago. really?? > > > is it a 'bad' package? lack of place? too difficult to maintain? > > No significant advantage over CUPS (AFAIR). So would you prefer cups for a printer not shared (for both security and size reasons) ? Regards
Re: [Cooker] printer packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 stephlub wrote: > I just saw today that pdq was'nt in 9.1 Do you mean 9.2? I am sure pdq was in 9.1. Anyway, it's now in contrib (AFAIK). > I would like to know when and why it has been removed It was moved to contrib about 2 months ago. > is it a 'bad' package? lack of place? too difficult to maintain? No significant advantage over CUPS (AFAIR). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/kQtarJK6UGDSBKcRAoT3AJ9oKuTeGasEeGylY9LmVx/U1moN8QCfUF1n z4Wm5bPIn4yuL2Ftr/CCIBg= =7Fzx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] printer packages
I just saw today that pdq was'nt in 9.1 I would like to know when and why it has been removed is it a 'bad' package? lack of place? too difficult to maintain?
[Cooker] printer packages
I just saw today that pdq was'nt in 9.1 I would like to know when and why it has been removed is it a 'bad' package? lack of place? too difficult to maintain?
[Cooker] printer-utils
Hi Would it be possible to update z42tools in printer-utils to 0.3.4b - its currently at 0.2.0 which is very old. Also it seems wasteful to include the mtink gimp plugin here, could it not be added to the gimpprint package instead as this only contains a gimp 1.2 plug-in. This way it makes it easier for people who do not have gimp-1.2 installed, as otherwise printer-utils requires libgimp1.2_1 as well, for no reason other than the plugin. Cheers cris.
[Cooker] Printer ink_level in GPL
Hi There is a guy called Markus Heinz, homepage: http://studserver.uni-dortmund.de/~su1690/ that has built a program that checks the ink level for some printers. Could be interesting guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Printer in Konqueror not auto set to cups.
Hi Hd.img inst 'UTF8 us-sv' version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030304 7:49 /ChangeLog/1.800/Mon Mar 3 00:35:36 2003// When using the printer in Konqueror the 'information' window indicates that: "Print system currently used: Generic UNIX LPD Print System (default)" although cups was used when in installation. When changing to cups all is fine. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.1 'UTF8 us-sv' kernel-2.4.21.0.11mdk-1-1mdk
[Cooker] Printer pb in GTK
Hi I did an update 5 min ago so this is up to date. When doing a printer installation with mcc from a konsole I get: [root@localhost guran]# cupsd (pid 1236) is running... rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded cupsd (pid 1236) is running... (drakconf.real:2453): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtkwidget.c: line 1626 (gtk_widget_destroy): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed It is to be noted that the program did find my HP 710C through the parallell port but asked me to accept HP 712C with pnm2ppa which I changed to the correct one. The GTK shit appeared when asked to print test page. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.1 kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.7mdk
[Cooker] [printer] Epson status monitor (mtink) permissions problem
Hello, The normal user haven't the permission to use the Epson status monitor (to see ink level for exemple). I have the following error message (in French) when I try to launch it (in config menu and in Gimp): "Pas de droit d'accès aux fichiers /dev... Remédiez à ceci. Consulter la documentation si nécéssaire" I think it could ask for root password. For info, I have an Epson Stylus Color 480SXU (USB). Thanks to take a look to it, Florent
[Cooker] printer drake loop
Setting up a network printer, printerdrake says my net isn't configured, do I want to configure it now? Saying yes gets me the same question, in a loop. [1] add a new printer [2] leave all 3 autodetect ceckboxes selected. resize the window so teh Cancel and Next buttons are visible, and press next [3] a message appears in its own window: You are going to configure a remote printer. This needs working network access, but your network is not configured yet. If you go on without network configuration, you will not be able to use the printer which you are configuring now. How do you want to proceed? [x] confiure the network now [ ] go on without configuring the network (ok) (cancel) [4] choose OK, you instantly get exactly the same message, in a different place on the screen [5] choose OK, you instantly get exactly the same message, in a different place on the screen [6] Go on without configuring the network, get "No printer found!" The same loop happens if only "[x] Auto-detect printers connected to the local network" is selected. [7] if you don't select any autodetecting you are asked if the port is on parallel port #0 #1 or #2, or USB printer #0 #1 or #2, no mention of network printers. It's possible to add a networked printer by IP address (what I needed to do) in Advanced mode, though. Liam -- Liam Quin, W3C XML Activity Lead, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] printer-filters needs old libstdc++
Like I say in the subject, there's still a dependency problem with printer-filters. libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.1) is needed by printer-filters-1.0-67mdk
Re: [Cooker] printer problem with cd switch
Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > beta3: When trying to set up my printers, it asked for cd1 again, > but the cd drive was locked, as somebody else also reported. > I did not see an answer yet, tho. The missing possibilility > to switch back to cd1 made the x installation go down the drain, > so the installation was infunctional. well know bug, fixed
[Cooker] printer problem with cd switch
beta3: When trying to set up my printers, it asked for cd1 again, but the cd drive was locked, as somebody else also reported. I did not see an answer yet, tho. The missing possibilility to switch back to cd1 made the x installation go down the drain, so the installation was infunctional. Keld
[Cooker] Printer config in Beta3
The printer configuration works properly, but consider adjusting one minor point. When the user is prompted to either "auto-detect" or "manually configure" his printer, if he presses the manual button, it just provides a list of 6 choices, parallel 0-2 and USB 0-2. If he wanted to just use a Remote CUPS server, there's no option to do it. Hitting the Cancel button does do this. I suggest that we add an option that says "Remote CUPS server, no local printer" and remove the Cancel button. Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn msg56088/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] Printer, and sound configuration, 8.2 beta-2
When configuring printers at install time it is impossible to back out of the config routine. This is very annoying if, like me, you have a serial printer. The first dlg of the config routine presents a choice of USB and parallel printers which it's impossible to back out of without selecting one of them. Going through the task of configuring a fictitious printer is the only way to complete the install. On the other hand, it would be great if serial printers were supported ;-). This beta still fails to detect my AWE64 PNP sound card properly, as did the beta-1. When installing in expert mode for some reason XFree86 4.2 ended up with a dead link from X and therefore didn't work. Installing in non-expert mode I didn't get this problem. Strange... thanks for listening :-). -- Get a free, personalised email address at http://another.com TXT ALRT! Stop wasting money now. Send FREE, personalised txt msgs to UK mobile phones from http://another.com
Re: [Cooker] Printer HPOJ
On Thursday 07 February 2002 03:14 pm, you wrote: > Now the new IJS interface is used. Unfortunately I do not have any HP > inkjet with duplex unit here, so that I cannot test it. I have hp-990 with duplexing and its working like a charm. Dave > > Till > > Rene Schumann wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Use they the new IJS Interface or the old HPIJS? > > Only the new support duplex printing. > > If yes, works duplex printing then with cups? > > > > thx > > Rene > > > > Am Don, 2002-02-07 um 22.12 schrieb Till Kamppeter: > >>They are integrated already, also automatic HPOJ configuration by > >>printerdrake. > >> > >>Till > >> > >>Rene Schumann wrote: > >>>--=-ipzTwVW5U6jheEdpy9Q7 > >>>Content-Type: text/plain > >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >>> > >>> > >>>Hello! > >>> > >>> > >>>There are new driver from HP available incl. duplex printing. > >>> > >>>http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ > >>> > >>>Can someone please make a cooker package of it? > >>> > >>> > >>>mfg > >>>Rene > >>> > >>> > >>>--=-ipzTwVW5U6jheEdpy9Q7 > >>>Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc > >>>Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil > >>> > >>>-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >>>Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > >>>Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org > >>> > >>>iD8DBQA8SwQ98DAU7YSZUNERAsH1AKCRIhu352ZC7j0IXQK/uEbYSVwpKACfUtMN > >>>KAGGhj4lTLC05uqu4itsaWE= > >>>=Tg6s > >>>-END PGP SIGNATURE- > >>> > >>>--=-ipzTwVW5U6jheEdpy9Q7--
Re: [Cooker] Printer setup also broken
I use CUPS and in 8.2beta1 and in latest Cooker it works. Thx, R.Fox On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 21:18, Till Kamppeter wrote: > Can you try the current Cooker or 8.2beta1? I have exactly the HP > DeskJet 990Cxi as one of my test printers and I have no problem with it. > If you have still problems, tell me which spooler you have and which > error messages you get in the terminal window when you run > "printerdrake" from the command line. > > Till > > > Robert Fox wrote: > > > I was unable to setup my HP990Cxi on the latest installer - foomatic > > failed. > > > > I am also unable to configure a printer after the install - so now I am > > printerless . . . > > > > > > > > > > > >
[Cooker] printer-drivers-1.0-34mdk.src.rpm spec broke? --additional
Plus, had to add my arch to the Buildarch lines (of the spec file) to build for other then a i586. ui: BuildArchitectures: i686 i586 ia64 ppc alpha I already tried sending the spec file via attachement but sympa chokes on anything larger then 100kb :-0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Cooker] printer-drivers-1.0-34mdk.src.rpm spec broke?
/usr/src/RPM/SPECS/printer-drivers.spec Line# 1370,1 SHOULD READ: ---NEW-EDITED-TO-WORK- # Put GIMP-Print data also into the main copy of the database # Roger --> pwd shows that we are in: /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/printer-drivers-1.0/foomatic # Roger --> the following were looking at an incorrect source folder. cp ../print-%{gimpprintver}/src/foomatic/foomatic-db/opt/gimp-print*.xml db/source/opt/ cp -ax ./foomatic-db-precompile/db/source/printer db/source/ # Due to Omni being in experimental state, the Foomatic data for Omni will # be shipped with the Omni package and (un)installed with the post/preun # scripts of Omni # Put OMNI data into the main copy of the database #( cd ../ghostscript-%{ghostscriptver}/src/Omni/Foomatic/foomatic-db; tar -cf - * ) | ( tar -xkf - 2> /dev/null ) || : # Put the printer entries with default drivers into the main database # Roger --> again incorrect source dir # the following location will also overwrite some present files also # since i'm not a native to this package, dunno. cp -axf ./foomatic-db-precompile/db/source/printer db/source/ END--- WAS: Original # Put GIMP-Print data also into the main copy of the database cp foomatic-db-precompile/db/source/driver/gimp-print*.xml db/source/driver/ cp foomatic-db-precompile/db/source/opt/gimp-print*.xml db/source/opt/ (Would get a "foomatic-db-precompile/db/source/driver/gimp-print*.xml" not found error with the original/un-modified spec file.) # Due to Omni being in experimental state, the Foomatic data for Omni will # be shipped with the Omni package and (un)installed with the post/preun # scripts of Omni # Put OMNI data into the main copy of the database #( cd ../ghostscript-%{ghostscriptver}/src/Omni/Foomatic/foomatic-db; tar -cf - * ) | ( tar -xkf - 2> /dev/null ) || : # Put the printer entries with default drivers into the main database cp -ax ./foomatic/foomatic-db-precompile/db/source/printer db/source END--- Something isn't right with the folder path. -Roger - Verify my pgp/gnupg signature on my HomePage: http://www.alltel.net/~rogerx/about/index.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Cooker] Printer Officejet PSC500 and duplex Printing
Hello! I have installed the latest ghostscript, printer-filters, and foomatic packages to have HPIJS 1.0.2. I can setup my Printer with printerdrake fine but duplex printing istn able at all. Does ghostscript not use the new IJS Interface or is this a configuration error? mfg Rene signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
RE: [Rene Schumann ] [Cooker] Printer HPOJ
I have a Officejet G85, USB printer everything seems to install OK, however when I print, it says it is printing but nothing every comes out on the printer. If I use the parellel cable it works. I have usb mouse and keyboard and that is all working. What am I missing? I am using cups and most recent version of cooker. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Till Kamppeter Sent: January 20, 2002 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rene Schumann Cc: Guillaume Cottenceau Subject: Re: [Rene Schumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [Cooker] Printer HPOJ The packages are already there. Take the latest ghostscript, printer-filters, and foomatic packages and you will have HPIJS 1.0.1 and so you will be able to set up all printers which work with these drivers using printerdrake. If you wait some more hours you will even get HPIJS 1.0.2 in the same packages with a fix for the PhotoSmart 100. Till Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > printing staff :-). > > > Start of forwarded message > X-From-Line: gc Sun Jan 20 19:03:40 2002 > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from soumis.mandrakesoft.com [192.168.100.3] > by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.6) > for gc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:03:40 +0100 (CET) > Received: from yavin.mandrax.org (moseisley.mandrax.org [63.209.80.226]) > by smtp.mandrakesoft.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g0KI11Fp018385; > Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:01:02 +0100 > Received: by yavin.mandrax.org (Postfix, from userid 500) > id AD54F8817A; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 09:52:58 -0800 (PST) > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: from gw.athome.dyndns.org (pD9E2866E.dip.t-dialin.net > [217.226.134.110]) by yavin.mandrax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F2E88163 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 09:45:14 -0800 (PST) > Received: from desktop.athome.dyndns.org (desktop.athome.dyndns.org > [192.168.128.138]) by gw.athome.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id > 3386B12949 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:54:50 > +0100 (CET) > From: Rene Schumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.11mdk > Date: 20 Jan 2002 18:54:05 +0100 > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Loop: cooker@ > X-Sequence: 1002 > Precedence: list > X-Validation-BY: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Cooker] Printer HPOJ > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-UIDL: IR+"!dd3"!g^d"!2& Lines: 35 > Xref: obiwan.mandrakesoft.com 2002-01.cooker:1910 > > > > > > Hello! > > > There are new driver from HP available incl. duplex printing. > > http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ > > Can someone please make a cooker package of it? > > > mfg > Rene > > > > > > > End of forwarded message > >
[Cooker] Printer HPOJ
Hello! There are new driver from HP available incl. duplex printing. http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ Can someone please make a cooker package of it? mfg Rene signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
[Cooker] printer & mcc
Hi VERSION (rsync ftp.uninett.no) Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020114 15:36 /ChangeLog/1.620/Wed Jan 9 13:32:52 2002// During Installation the package liblcms1-1.08-1mdk.i586 did not install, did that after boot. To install my printer via mcc, I clicked the icon on the desktop, but nothing came out of that. In a console in KDE as user I issued mcc, and a lot of shit continued to spill in the console window while I installed the printer. My papersize a4 was corrextly set as I had used sv as locale and en-UK as extra. The 'invokation summary' was correctly printed this time. The output in the console is attached. N.B. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 8.2 Cooker kernel-2.4.17.3mdk-1-1mdk version:2002-01-14-15:36 [root@One09 guran]# mcc Subroutine _ redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 476. Subroutine translate redefined at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 481. paket wizard r inte installerat Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 181, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 187, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 181, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 187, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 181, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 187, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 181, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 187, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 181, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real l ine 448, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/m y_gtk.pm line 453, line 1. Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/X11R6
[Cooker] Printer setup also broken
I was unable to setup my HP990Cxi on the latest installer - foomatic failed. I am also unable to configure a printer after the install - so now I am printerless . . .
Re: [Cooker] Printer fail during install
On Monday 17 September 2001 14:28, François Pons wrote: > This one seems fixed now, and sorry for bad report... Thanks, keep up the good work it's a nice baby. regards guran
Re: [Cooker] Printer fail during install
On Monday 17 September 2001 14:06, François Pons wrote: > Sorry, but this is a typical error from a kernel upgrade which has been > forgotten. You are wellcome, my mail was actually supposed to create an instance of insight - as this has happened at least 5 times, during 8.1 beta. Whenever a new Mdk kernel is released, it ought to be feasable to search the old installer for all instances of the old name-tag. regards guran
Re: [Cooker] Printer fail during install
On Monday 17 September 2001 11:05, François Pons wrote: > guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bringing up interface lo: [ OK ] > > Cannot open netlink socket: Address family not supported by protocol > > modprobe: Can't open dependencies file > > /lib/modules/2.4.8-22mdkBOOT/modules.dep > > (No such file or directory) > > You should have upgraded your kernel and still using it, no more modules > are present. > > So Reboot, That is the Microsoft way, I was writing from a fresh install, i.e. I had rebooted after the install. The excerpt was from report.bug, that is the install was not corrected for the kernel upgrade two days earlier. I have revisited that install, and could get into MCC, and do a printer installation. regards guran
[Cooker] Printer fail during install
Hi VERSION (rsync ftp.uninett.no) /ChangeLog/1.581/Sun Sep 16 20:56:37 2001// Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20010916 22:34 Could not reach ControlCenter, when trying after install, took passwd then nothing. This is from report.bug: Setting network parameters: [ OK ] Bringing up interface lo: [ OK ] Cannot open netlink socket: Address family not supported by protocol modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.8-22mdkBOOT/modules.dep (No such file or directory) * running: /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups start with root /mnt Loopback device ("lo", 127.0.0.1) needed by CUPS, starting it ... Adding loopback device to routing table ... Starting CUPS printing system: [ OK ] * running: /usr/sbin/pdqpanicbutton --remove with root /mnt * exec of /usr/sbin/pdqpanicbutton failed: No such file or directory * warning: Could not remove PDQ panic buttons! at /usr/bin/perl-install/printer.pm line 227. * starting step `summary' * selecting packages * all packages selected are already installed, nothing to do * step `summary' finished regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 8.1 beta Cooker kernel-2.4.8-23 vers:1.581
Re: [Cooker] Printer stupidity (HP OJ 1150C) and cdj850
> > > I have a HP 850C printer, in "printerdrake" the proposition is name / driver relation? > "ADOBE PostScript " (!?!), so I switched to "HP 850C + > cdj850(en)". It prints the test page nicely. I'm using The cdj850 proposition for the 1150C is recently new here. The test page prints fine during install, but not after (nothing after). > cups-drivers from 8.0 : cups-drivers-1.0-30mdk I will downgrade to that sometime soon to check if it is driver prob or if it is misdriver prob (bad drakx, down boy). > > Grégoire thx > Blue-waiting for response from till
Re: [Cooker] Printer stupidity (HP OJ 1150C) and cdj850
Blue Lizard wrote: > I have complained before and nothing has responded but as we draw near > to release candidates i feel it necessary to find out if it is truly a > problem. > If _anyone_ out there uses the HP OfficeJet 1150C, please report back. > The same to anyone who uses or is told to use the cdj850 driver in > install or in printerdrake. My printer does not work in the slightest > with this driver, although it is recommended in the install. If yours > works with it or if it doesnt, please report so this can be worked out. > The other applicable driver listed by printerdrake (cups) for the > HPOJ1150C is the cdj550. Although it is not nearly as compatible > technically with the printer, it does work to some degree (you can print > stuff). > So, to help track this thing, PLEASE RESPOND if you are in this crowd. > Thanks, > Blue. > -- > $ rpm -q cups-drivers > cups-drivers-1.1-7mdk > I have a HP 850C printer, in "printerdrake" the proposition is "ADOBE PostScript " (!?!), so I switched to "HP 850C + cdj850(en)". It prints the test page nicely. I'm using cups-drivers from 8.0 : cups-drivers-1.0-30mdk Grégoire
[Cooker] Printer stupidity (HP OJ 1150C) and cdj850
I have complained before and nothing has responded but as we draw near to release candidates i feel it necessary to find out if it is truly a problem. If _anyone_ out there uses the HP OfficeJet 1150C, please report back. The same to anyone who uses or is told to use the cdj850 driver in install or in printerdrake. My printer does not work in the slightest with this driver, although it is recommended in the install. If yours works with it or if it doesnt, please report so this can be worked out. The other applicable driver listed by printerdrake (cups) for the HPOJ1150C is the cdj550. Although it is not nearly as compatible technically with the printer, it does work to some degree (you can print stuff). So, to help track this thing, PLEASE RESPOND if you are in this crowd. Thanks, Blue. -- $ rpm -q cups-drivers cups-drivers-1.1-7mdk
[Cooker] Printer test page
Hi all, one quick question: Since the name of the distro has changed from Linux Mandrake to Mandrake Linux and almost everything has been modified to reflect this change, shouldn't the logo on the printer test page be changed too? Just a minor detail. Cheers, Atha
[Cooker] Printer install via MCC - failure
Hi VERSION (rsync ftp.uninett.no) Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20010822 18:22 /ChangeLog/1.545/Wed Aug 22 12:48:38 2001// OBS!I skipped printer installation during Install because of earlier problems. I started MCC and clicked on printer. Nice move, a window opens up and it states ' Installing/Upgrading progress'. Another window opens up which says "error - Can't open package expat-1.95.2-1mdk.i586.rpm. So I go to another desktop and does updatedb, my installation is a hd.img, so the whole shit is in /mnt/hd. The fine db can't find the fine file although it is in /mnt/hd/home/guran/manne/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/ regards guran -- Mandrake 8.1 beta 2.4.8-10
Re: [Cooker] printer share
I assume that your Linux clients use LPD as printing system (with CUPS all goes automatically). So you must set up an LPD emulation (the so-called CUPS-LPD mini daemon) on your CUPS server. Proceed as shown in http://mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hcups4.html#lpdcl Happy printing. Till Georgi Mikhailov wrote: > > Hi there, > I tried to configure LAN with linux and windows machines, using linux print > server. SAMBA is working fine, so all win. computers can print, but linux > clients do not have "line printer access on the server". All the machines have > entries into /etc/hosts file. > My question is what file should I edit to solve the problem. Thanks. >
[Cooker] printer commands & KDE
Below is a thread in kde-user. Is there any possibility to incorporate cups clients in kde programs? Ralf. kde-user thread: If you have got no /etc/printcap file generated by cups, insert in cupsd.conf: "Printcap /etc/printcap" I don't know any possibility to print via qtcups in kde (and I use Mandrake). So, if you want to modify the printer settings, your solution (temporary ps file) is the current way to go. I think that I'll also send this email to the Mandrake-devel list: Maybe they know a more elegant way, e.g. kde printer selection could show all instances of a printer (with different options). On Thursday 15 February 2001 03:49, Rinse de Vries wrote: > KDE looks at /etc/printcap and lists the available printers from there. > I guess you should configure /etc/printcap to make it list qtcups as wel. > Mandrake is using Kups af default printersetup, so it must be possible to > use Kups or QT-Cups with KDE. Please check out their websites to find out > how to use QT cups or Kups with kde. > > workaround is the following: > print to a file in stead of a printer > open ps-file in konqueror or kghostview > tell kghostview to use the at-cups command to print the file > > Kind regards, Rinse > > Op dinsdag 13 februari 2001 22:05, schreef MEEE het volgende: > >One of my pet annoyances with KDE (and my only annoyance!) is printing. > > I happily use cups and all my non-kde applications at some point ask > > me what print command I'd like them to use e.g "lp" or "lp" or possibly > > "cat > /dev/lp0". I have all mine set to use qtcups which pops up a > > nice print dialogue allowing me to change paper size, print position, > > resolution etc. > > > >For the life of me I can not find any similar option in KDE. I'm > > currently running kde 2.1beta2. > > > >How does KDE decide what print command to use. I find some things that > > print and others that don't. I have to use Open With -> qtcups to get > > most things printed. Anybody have any thoughts? > > > >Regards > > > > > >Mark
[Cooker] printer share
Hi there, I tried to configure LAN with linux and windows machines, using linux print server. SAMBA is working fine, so all win. computers can print, but linux clients do not have "line printer access on the server". All the machines have entries into /etc/hosts file. My question is what file should I edit to solve the problem. Thanks. Georgi Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
> Peter Ruskin wrote: > > > > HP720C > > Still not working with cups 1.1.2-22mdk and cups-drivers 0.3.6-12mdk... > > > > ESP Printer Calibration Tool v1.0 > > Copyright 1999-2000 by Easy Software Products, All Rights Reserved. > > > > Printer name [default]? > > Resolution [default]? 600x600 > > Media type [default]? > > Press ENTER to print pass #1 or N to skip... > > Sending calibration pass #1 for density/saturation levels... > > Calibration pass #1 sent. > > > > Please select the character that corresponds to the black block that > > is 100aturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If > > the saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter > > both characters. > > > > Black density? f > > > > Now select the character that corresponds to the yellow block that is > > 100aturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the > > saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both > > characters. > > > > Yellow density? > > Yellow density? f > > > > Now select the character that corresponds to the red block that is > > 100aturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the > > saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both > > characters. > > > > Red density? f > > > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > > ENTER key to print calibration pass #2. > > Gamma? 3 > > > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > > ENTER key to print calibration pass #3. > > > > Press ENTER to print pass #3 or N to skip... > > Sending calibration pass #3 for red, green, and blue adjustment... > > Calibration pass #3 sent. > > > > Please select the character that corresponds to the correct red, > > green, and blue colors. If the transition point appears to occur > > between two characters, enter both characters. > > > > Red color? 7 > > Green color? 7 > > Blue color? 7 > > > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > > ENTER key to print the final calibration pass. > > > > Press ENTER to continue... > > Sending calibration pass #4 for visual confirmation... > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > -- On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Till Kamppeter wrote: > Did it not print or did only the calibration not work? > > Or didn't you find this printer in the printer listing? > > The calibration is still alpha, perhaps I will take it out again. > >Till Till, The printer works fine. It's only the calibration that can't print the fourth pass, and presumably doesn't save any settings - I'd enter the settings by hand if I knew where to do it. Thanks, Peter -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: [Cooker] printer
Try to update to the newest Cooker versions: CUPS 22mdk, GhostScript 25mdk, CUPS-drivers 13mdk. Then you will get two entries for the HP DeskJet 610. Use the "GIMP-Print", this gives the best results. Till Ralph wrote: > > Hey List, > I am running beta 1 and was wondering why my printer dont work.. > It says it's there and all if i go under hardware drake it sets up fine but > when i try to print something it just f..king sits there oh its a cheap ho > 610. > > thanks, > Ralph > -- > WHEREVER YOUR HEAD GOES YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW!!
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
Did it not print or did only the calibration not work? Or didn't you find this printer in the printer listing? The calibration is still alpha, perhaps I will take it out again. Till Peter Ruskin wrote: > > HP720C > Still not working with cups 1.1.2-22mdk and cups-drivers 0.3.6-12mdk... > > ESP Printer Calibration Tool v1.0 > Copyright 1999-2000 by Easy Software Products, All Rights Reserved. > > Printer name [default]? > Resolution [default]? 600x600 > Media type [default]? > Press ENTER to print pass #1 or N to skip... > Sending calibration pass #1 for density/saturation levels... > Calibration pass #1 sent. > > Please select the character that corresponds to the black block that > is 100aturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If > the saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter > both characters. > > Black density? f > > Now select the character that corresponds to the yellow block that is > 100aturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the > saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both > characters. > > Yellow density? > Yellow density? f > > Now select the character that corresponds to the red block that is > 100aturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the > saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both > characters. > > Red density? f > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > ENTER key to print calibration pass #2. > Gamma? 3 > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > ENTER key to print calibration pass #3. > > Press ENTER to print pass #3 or N to skip... > Sending calibration pass #3 for red, green, and blue adjustment... > Calibration pass #3 sent. > > Please select the character that corresponds to the correct red, > green, and blue colors. If the transition point appears to occur > between two characters, enter both characters. > > Red color? 7 > Green color? 7 > Blue color? 7 > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > ENTER key to print the final calibration pass. > > Press ENTER to continue... > Sending calibration pass #4 for visual confirmation... > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > -- > > -- > Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wrexham, UKKDE - the professionals' choice > --
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
Neather is HP970C How do i get this ESP info for it? Dave On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, you wrote: > HP720C > Still not working with cups 1.1.2-22mdk and cups-drivers 0.3.6-12mdk... > > ESP Printer Calibration Tool v1.0 > Copyright 1999-2000 by Easy Software Products, All Rights Reserved. > > Printer name [default]? > Resolution [default]? 600x600 > Media type [default]? > Press ENTER to print pass #1 or N to skip... > Sending calibration pass #1 for density/saturation levels... > Calibration pass #1 sent. > > Please select the character that corresponds to the black block that > is 100% saturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If > the saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter > both characters. > > Black density? f > > Now select the character that corresponds to the yellow block that is > 100% saturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the > saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both > characters. > > Yellow density? > Yellow density? f > > Now select the character that corresponds to the red block that is > 100% saturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the > saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both > characters. > > Red density? f > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > ENTER key to print calibration pass #2. > Gamma? 3 > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > ENTER key to print calibration pass #3. > > Press ENTER to print pass #3 or N to skip... > Sending calibration pass #3 for red, green, and blue adjustment... > Calibration pass #3 sent. > > Please select the character that corresponds to the correct red, > green, and blue colors. If the transition point appears to occur > between two characters, enter both characters. > > Red color? 7 > Green color? 7 > Blue color? 7 > > Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the > ENTER key to print the final calibration pass. > > Press ENTER to continue... > Sending calibration pass #4 for visual confirmation... > Segmentation fault (core dumped) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux - Cause I dont do windows or ovens! [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Registered System: 83659
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
HP720C Still not working with cups 1.1.2-22mdk and cups-drivers 0.3.6-12mdk... ESP Printer Calibration Tool v1.0 Copyright 1999-2000 by Easy Software Products, All Rights Reserved. Printer name [default]? Resolution [default]? 600x600 Media type [default]? Press ENTER to print pass #1 or N to skip... Sending calibration pass #1 for density/saturation levels... Calibration pass #1 sent. Please select the character that corresponds to the black block that is 100% saturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both characters. Black density? f Now select the character that corresponds to the yellow block that is 100% saturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both characters. Yellow density? Yellow density? f Now select the character that corresponds to the red block that is 100% saturated (dark) while not bleeding through the paper. If the saturation point appears to occur between two characters, enter both characters. Red density? f Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the ENTER key to print calibration pass #2. Gamma? 3 Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the ENTER key to print calibration pass #3. Press ENTER to print pass #3 or N to skip... Sending calibration pass #3 for red, green, and blue adjustment... Calibration pass #3 sent. Please select the character that corresponds to the correct red, green, and blue colors. If the transition point appears to occur between two characters, enter both characters. Red color? 7 Green color? 7 Blue color? 7 Thank you. Now insert the page back into the printer and press the ENTER key to print the final calibration pass. Press ENTER to continue... Sending calibration pass #4 for visual confirmation... Segmentation fault (core dumped) -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UKKDE - the professionals' choice --
[Cooker] printer
Hey List, I am running beta 1 and was wondering why my printer dont work.. It says it's there and all if i go under hardware drake it sets up fine but when i try to print something it just f..king sits there oh its a cheap ho 610. thanks, Ralph -- WHEREVER YOUR HEAD GOES YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW!!
[Cooker] Printer problem
Hi all.. I noticed in the first beta a problem with my HP Deskjet 672c. The printer util used during the installation recognized my printer, but when it came to the printer selection 672 (or 670) was not an option. I tried some of the other Deskjet choices, but was no able to print a test page. Previous Mandrake versions have had an HP 670 (I believe it was 550 and up or something) which worked without a flaw. Perhaps I'm missing something? Anyhow, I'm wondering if this type of printer is an option in beta2? Thanks for your time. JP
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
Peter Ruskin wrote: > > Thanks Till. I have pnm2ppa-1.0-2mdk; ghostscript-5.50-22mdk; > cups-1.1.2.12mdk; cups-drivers-0.3.6.6mdk. Works fine from the CUPS WWW > admin tool, but I need to print from KDE apps, etc. and, despite editing > /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to read "Printcap /etc/printcap" Did you remove the hash ('#') in the beginning of the line and did you restart the CUPS daemon (/etc/rc.d/init.d/cups restart)? > and adding a printer > from the admin tool, printcap doesn't get generated. You do not need to add the printer which is once installed under CUPS again, the /etc/printcap is always automatically updated when necessary. > Also, when I try "lp > (or lpr) filename [Enter] from a console as a non-root user, I get: > "lp: unable to print file: The requested resource was not found on this > server." What is your default printer (/etc/cups/client.conf, /etc/cups/lpoptions, ~/.lpoptions, last file has highest priority)? Does this printer exist? Did you try to print with xpp? You can also set xpp as printing command. Try also to replace the "lpr" commands by "lpr-cups" commands. If this is necessary, deinstall or update the lpr package. Till > What am I doing wrong? > -- > > -- > Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice > --
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Till Kamppeter wrote: > Peter Ruskin wrote: > > > > Are there any CUPS drivers for HP720C printers (ppa)? > > > > I have looked now, there is one, choose HP and then HP Deskjet 720C. Be > sure that you have installed the most recent versions of pnm2ppa, > ghostscript, cups, and cups-driver (from the Cooker). Thanks Till. I have pnm2ppa-1.0-2mdk; ghostscript-5.50-22mdk; cups-1.1.2.12mdk; cups-drivers-0.3.6.6mdk. Works fine from the CUPS WWW admin tool, but I need to print from KDE apps, etc. and, despite editing /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to read "Printcap /etc/printcap" and adding a printer from the admin tool, printcap doesn't get generated. Also, when I try "lp (or lpr) filename [Enter] from a console as a non-root user, I get: "lp: unable to print file: The requested resource was not found on this server." What am I doing wrong? -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
Peter Ruskin wrote: > > Are there any CUPS drivers for HP720C printers (ppa)? > I have looked now, there is one, choose HP and then HP Deskjet 720C. Be sure that you have installed the most recent versions of pnm2ppa, ghostscript, cups, and cups-driver (from the Cooker). Till
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
I posted this Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:37:10 +0100 and I still can't see it on the list, so here it is again (sorry if it contributes to duplicates)... On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Till Kamppeter wrote: > I have renamed the printer filter packages (which filter raster output > of GhostScript to the proprietary printer protocols) to make the names > more "human-readable": Are there any CUPS drivers for HP720C printers (ppa)? -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Till Kamppeter wrote: > I have renamed the printer filter packages (which filter raster output > of GhostScript to the proprietary printer protocols) to make the names > more "human-readable": Are there any drivers for HP720C printers (ppa)? -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UKKDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: [Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
Hi Till, I've been looking into getting the oki4w driver up and running under CUPS on Linux Mandrake. Unfortunately there appear to be some problems. Firstly, when I looked at the CUPS-o-matic entries on the Linux Printing site, the oki4w wasn't there. Secondly, the oki4w driver (man page attached) suggests that the driver should be run SUID root and also not in pure filtering mode under a spooling daemon such as lpd. I presume this applies to CUPS as well. Can you see a way around this? Cheers, -Karl -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Karl Mitchell=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Dept. of Geomatic Engineering |Secretary, ISPRS WG IV/5 | | University College London | "Extraterrestrial Mapping"| | Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT | +44 (0)20 7504-2744| [EMAIL PROTECTED]=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- oki4drv.man
[Cooker] Printer driver packages renamed
Oi, I have renamed the printer filter packages (which filter raster output of GhostScript to the proprietary printer protocols) to make the names more "human-readable": lpstyl --> Apple-StyleWriter-printer-driver__lpstyl-0.9.9-1mdk.i586.rpm cjet -->Canon-CaPSL-printer-driver__cjet-0.8.9-2mdk.i586.rpm lm1100 --> Lexmark-1100-printer-driver__lm1100-1.0-2mdk.i586.rpm c2070 --> Lexmark-2070-color-printer-driver__c2070-0.99-2mdk.i586.rpm Lexmark2070 --> Lexmark-2070-grayscale-printer-driver__Lexmark2070-0.6-2mdk.i586.rpm cZ11 -->Lexmark-Z11-printer-driver__cZ11-0.01-2mdk.i586.rpm The new names contain "printer-driver" so that one knows for what they are, the printer type is in the beginning, so it stays readable even if the long name is cut in a listing, and the packages can also be searched by the name of the filter executable (which is inside the CUPS PPD files) because this name one always finds after the "__". I hope these names are better for the daily life now. Till
Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation
"Danny W. Burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can someone tell me why I can't print to my network printer. > I have an HP DirectJet connected to an el cheapo epson 400 and set it up > as a remote printer named epson > with it's ip 192.168.1.150 for it's hostname > and I have no idea what to put for a queue name it has no named server > it's hooked to a printer driver devicehehe usually you use the printer name (it has to resolve) (maybe the ip will work) as remote host, and "lp" as queue name, for most HP printers. -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation
HP JetDirect cards have three preconfigured queues: postscript, ascii, and raw. You can also use a telnet stream at port 9100. - Original Message - From: "Danny W. Burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation > diablero wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:17:22AM -0700, Alexander V. Voinov wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Yesterday I again tried the latest beta, and was again surprised with > > > the printer config menu: "Text printer| HP DJ | Postscript". It would > > > frustrate even an experienced user. What if I have an HP LJ?! > > > > The new system is not user friendly, you need to open three different > > windows to configure a new lp. The older printtool was far easy to use. > > > > > Alexander > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Poindessous > > EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx > > > Can someone tell me why I can't print to my network printer. > I have an HP DirectJet connected to an el cheapo epson 400 and set it up > as a remote printer named epson > with it's ip 192.168.1.150 for it's hostname > and I have no idea what to put for a queue name it has no named server > it's hooked to a printer driver devicehehe > > It doesn't work from my Linuxbut does in W98...not > acceptable...agent mulder..hehe > > Danny > > --- Jonathan M. Prigot
Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation
Dannya wild guess would be that you don't have a /etc/hosts.lpd file. If not then as root, create a text file of that name with your choice of text editors, containng a single '+' character followed by a single press of the 'Enter' key in it. Alan "Danny W. Burdick" wrote: > > diablero wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:17:22AM -0700, Alexander V. Voinov wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Yesterday I again tried the latest beta, and was again surprised with > > > the printer config menu: "Text printer| HP DJ | Postscript". It would > > > frustrate even an experienced user. What if I have an HP LJ?! > > > > The new system is not user friendly, you need to open three different > > windows to configure a new lp. The older printtool was far easy to use. > > > > > Alexander > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Poindessous > > EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx > > Can someone tell me why I can't print to my network printer. > I have an HP DirectJet connected to an el cheapo epson 400 and set it up > as a remote printer named epson > with it's ip 192.168.1.150 for it's hostname > and I have no idea what to put for a queue name it has no named server > it's hooked to a printer driver devicehehe > > It doesn't work from my Linuxbut does in W98...not > acceptable...agent mulder..hehe > > Danny
Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation
diablero wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:17:22AM -0700, Alexander V. Voinov wrote: > > Hi > > > > Yesterday I again tried the latest beta, and was again surprised with > > the printer config menu: "Text printer| HP DJ | Postscript". It would > > frustrate even an experienced user. What if I have an HP LJ?! > > The new system is not user friendly, you need to open three different > windows to configure a new lp. The older printtool was far easy to use. > > > Alexander > > > -- > Thomas Poindessous > EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita > [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx Can someone tell me why I can't print to my network printer. I have an HP DirectJet connected to an el cheapo epson 400 and set it up as a remote printer named epson with it's ip 192.168.1.150 for it's hostname and I have no idea what to put for a queue name it has no named server it's hooked to a printer driver devicehehe It doesn't work from my Linuxbut does in W98...not acceptable...agent mulder..hehe Danny
Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:17:22AM -0700, Alexander V. Voinov wrote: > Hi > > Yesterday I again tried the latest beta, and was again surprised with > the printer config menu: "Text printer| HP DJ | Postscript". It would > frustrate even an experienced user. What if I have an HP LJ?! The new system is not user friendly, you need to open three different windows to configure a new lp. The older printtool was far easy to use. > Alexander -- Thomas Poindessous EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx
[Cooker] Printer config at the installation
Hi Yesterday I again tried the latest beta, and was again surprised with the printer config menu: "Text printer| HP DJ | Postscript". It would frustrate even an experienced user. What if I have an HP LJ?! Of course, printtool and *drak* work, but what is the intent of that installation menu? I fuzzily recall, that an analogous menu of Red Hat was more meaningful. With best regards Alexander
Re: [Cooker] Printer Brother HP-1240 -- bug/problem fixed?!? --dunno
bingo! it prints almost fine now!! when using the drakex > printtool, i needed to leave it at defaults! (see below) Name of quene: lp Spool directory: /var/spool/lpd/lp instead, i was changing it to lp0 and /var/spool/lpd/lp which resulted in the printtool working and printing appropriate test pages and then reverting to same buggy behavoir with netscape and kedit (of course i sort of figured it was reverting to my old configured driver, or so). I was changing the lp to lp0 since i didn't like having a quene name w/o a number (a syntax which i prefer when one may have more than several quenes). My printer now looks like it is fully working. It prints within netscape very well (postscript). it prints "missing the first horizontal line of text" when printing from "kedit" files (or text), to resolve this, i could either enter a blank line for the top line or print by choosing the check box "Print using the Command 'enscript -2rG' " On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, you wrote: > seems to be some corrections are need to be placed thru the "Linux Printer > Database Site" (forgot the url) > > Brother HP-1240 Printer uses the "HP Laserjet IIp" driver(!!!) and NOT the "HP > Laserjet 4/5/6" driver. > > as such, after my breif (very helpful tip from Brother Tech Support), this > problem is now solved with printing only the "test pages (ascii and > postscirpt) within the printtool - the left and top margings being "cut" short > by 1-2 character widths. But, thru further experimentation with "kedit" and > "netscape", they still print by cutting the margins and only printing the 1/4 > page in netscape! > > Maybe this problem could be atleast corrected w/i the mdk distro > release by adding an entry for the Brother HL-1240 printer (possible? > dunno...whatever). > > > > > > *Note on additional research: Also, was advised (thru same tech support guy) > that the Brother HL-1250 printer (very similar to 1240) should use the "HP > Laserjet 4" driver. Unknown on further specifics since i don't have a 1250! > (don't know if this is the hp laserjet 4/5/6 or hp laserjet 4- dithered > drivers). -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
[Cooker] Printer Brother HP-1240 -- bug/problem fixed?!? --dunno
seems to be some corrections are need to be placed thru the "Linux Printer Database Site" (forgot the url) Brother HP-1240 Printer uses the "HP Laserjet IIp" driver(!!!) and NOT the "HP Laserjet 4/5/6" driver. as such, after my breif (very helpful tip from Brother Tech Support), this problem is now solved with printing only the "test pages (ascii and postscirpt) within the printtool - the left and top margings being "cut" short by 1-2 character widths. But, thru further experimentation with "kedit" and "netscape", they still print by cutting the margins and only printing the 1/4 page in netscape! Maybe this problem could be atleast corrected w/i the mdk distro release by adding an entry for the Brother HL-1240 printer (possible? dunno...whatever). *Note on additional research: Also, was advised (thru same tech support guy) that the Brother HL-1250 printer (very similar to 1240) should use the "HP Laserjet 4" driver. Unknown on further specifics since i don't have a 1250! (don't know if this is the hp laserjet 4/5/6 or hp laserjet 4- dithered drivers).
[Cooker] printer problem with mdk 7.0 iso2
have a Brother HL-1240 (uses the hp laser jet 4/5/6 driver) prints the test acii page fine. when printing the postscipt (graphics if i have it named wrong), it only prints the upper/left 1/4 of the graphics page. a more serious problem is when i print from kedit (or any text editor), it still is cutting the top margin short by 1 line and teh left margin is being cut by 2 character widths! -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken
Deven Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello, printerdrake was broken for some printers in Oxygen Air Beta and has been corrected for the final Linux-Mandrake Air 7.0. It should work now with these printers. François. > Gael, > > Now it has the TCL/TK printtool, but before it was the > PrinterDrake proggy. I installed the printtool from Mandrake 6.1 with a > --force --nodeps. I am not currently at my machine, so I cannot load the > rpm to see. > > Deven
Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken
Gael, Now it has the TCL/TK printtool, but before it was the PrinterDrake proggy. I installed the printtool from Mandrake 6.1 with a --force --nodeps. I am not currently at my machine, so I cannot load the rpm to see. Deven
Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken
What does say: /usr/bin/printtool ? G. Deven Phillips wrote: > > Gael, > > That package from the Mandrake 7.0 distro actually installs the > PrinterDrake tool, and not the RH printtool (The TCL/TK one). This is the > way I noticed it at least. > > Deven Phillips > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > > > Deven Phillips wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed > > > recently that you removed the RH Printtool program. > > > > It's not been removed: > > > > -r--r--r--1 540 517 50464 jan 12 01:53 > > printtool-3.43-2mdk.noarch.rpm > > > > Just install it from the distrib and type: printtool. > > > > G. > > > > >The Mandrake > > > PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the > > > DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so > > > why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM > > > from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this > > > problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you > > > like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for > > > further information. > > > > > > Deven Phillips, > > > Cytronix Computer Services, Inc. > > > > -- > > < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > < +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 > > > -- < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >
Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken
Gael, That package from the Mandrake 7.0 distro actually installs the PrinterDrake tool, and not the RH printtool (The TCL/TK one). This is the way I noticed it at least. Deven Phillips On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > Deven Phillips wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed > > recently that you removed the RH Printtool program. > > It's not been removed: > > -r--r--r--1 540 517 50464 jan 12 01:53 > printtool-3.43-2mdk.noarch.rpm > > Just install it from the distrib and type: printtool. > > G. > > >The Mandrake > > PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the > > DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so > > why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM > > from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this > > problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you > > like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for > > further information. > > > > Deven Phillips, > > Cytronix Computer Services, Inc. > > -- > < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > < +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 > >
Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken
Deven Phillips wrote: > > Hi, > > I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed > recently that you removed the RH Printtool program. It's not been removed: -r--r--r--1 540 517 50464 jan 12 01:53 printtool-3.43-2mdk.noarch.rpm Just install it from the distrib and type: printtool. G. >The Mandrake > PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the > DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so > why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM > from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this > problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you > like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for > further information. > > Deven Phillips, > Cytronix Computer Services, Inc. -- < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >
[Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken
Hi, I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed recently that you removed the RH Printtool program. The Mandrake PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for further information. Deven Phillips, Cytronix Computer Services, Inc.
Re: [Cooker] printer problem
I downloaded Jan 9th and upgraded my existing install. aha1542 autoprobed perfectly the balance of the install went very well, only 3 or 4 previously documented nuances. Good Job so far, its getting better. Paul Longchamps - Original Message - From: Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] printer problem > Did you try to use any of the existing drivers for Lexmark? > > There is a driver for Lexmark 1000/1100 Printer at > > http://209.233.17.85/lexmark/ > > Might be worth a try... > > I maneged to have my Z51 working with the 5000 driver, so don't loose faith > ;-) > > kelk1 > > >From: James Jennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Cooker] printer problem > >Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:43:54 -0600 (CST) > > > >Okay, I knwo I have asked this before, but is there any support for the > >Lexmark Z11 series printer? I think it sucks that I have a printer here > >that I paid good hard earned money for, and I can't even use it under my > >favorite OS. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Other than the > >standard "Take it back". > > > >Thanks. > > > >-James > > > >On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Pete Staehling wrote: > > > > > When setting up my local printer (HP 560c) it printsonly the text test > > > page. Then the printer fails to work in any applications (I get "lpr: > > > cannot open printer description file"). > > > > > > If I run printtool I get the following: > > > Couldn't load dialog.tcl > > > Start from control-panel or set environment variable > > > CONTROL_PANEL_LIB_DIR to the control-panel library dir. > > > (normally this is /usr/lib/rhs/control-panel) > > > > > > Setting it seems to make no difference > > > > > > BTW: Is there somewhere I can go to see if this has already been hased > >to > > > death? > > > > > > Pete > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >
Re: [Cooker] printer problem
Did you try to use any of the existing drivers for Lexmark? There is a driver for Lexmark 1000/1100 Printer at http://209.233.17.85/lexmark/ Might be worth a try... I maneged to have my Z51 working with the 5000 driver, so don't loose faith ;-) kelk1 >From: James Jennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Cooker] printer problem >Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:43:54 -0600 (CST) > >Okay, I knwo I have asked this before, but is there any support for the >Lexmark Z11 series printer? I think it sucks that I have a printer here >that I paid good hard earned money for, and I can't even use it under my >favorite OS. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Other than the >standard "Take it back". > >Thanks. > >-James > >On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Pete Staehling wrote: > > > When setting up my local printer (HP 560c) it printsonly the text test > > page. Then the printer fails to work in any applications (I get "lpr: > > cannot open printer description file"). > > > > If I run printtool I get the following: > > Couldn't load dialog.tcl > > Start from control-panel or set environment variable > > CONTROL_PANEL_LIB_DIR to the control-panel library dir. > > (normally this is /usr/lib/rhs/control-panel) > > > > Setting it seems to make no difference > > > > BTW: Is there somewhere I can go to see if this has already been hased >to > > death? > > > > Pete > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [Cooker] printer problem
Okay, I knwo I have asked this before, but is there any support for the Lexmark Z11 series printer? I think it sucks that I have a printer here that I paid good hard earned money for, and I can't even use it under my favorite OS. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Other than the standard "Take it back". Thanks. -James On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Pete Staehling wrote: > When setting up my local printer (HP 560c) it printsonly the text test > page. Then the printer fails to work in any applications (I get "lpr: > cannot open printer description file"). > > If I run printtool I get the following: > Couldn't load dialog.tcl > Start from control-panel or set environment variable > CONTROL_PANEL_LIB_DIR to the control-panel library dir. > (normally this is /usr/lib/rhs/control-panel) > > Setting it seems to make no difference > > BTW: Is there somewhere I can go to see if this has already been hased to > death? > > Pete > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [Cooker] printer problem
When setting up my local printer (HP 560c) it printsonly the text test page. Then the printer fails to work in any applications (I get "lpr: cannot open printer description file"). If I run printtool I get the following: Couldn't load dialog.tcl Start from control-panel or set environment variable CONTROL_PANEL_LIB_DIR to the control-panel library dir. (normally this is /usr/lib/rhs/control-panel) Setting it seems to make no difference BTW: Is there somewhere I can go to see if this has already been hased to death? Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Printer Tests
G'day Printer tests during install do not work here I have a Logitech PageScan Color and adaptor on the parrell port, maybe this is the problem, but as soon as the system reboots and starts LPD page get printed. -- Michael Doyle Adelaide, South Australia http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~mtd
Re: [Cooker] printer autodetection
Pixel wrote: > > Could any of you having printers send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the content of > cat /proc/parport/*/autoprobe > > It should be something like: > > CLASS:PRINTER; > MODEL:HP LaserJet 1100; > MANUFACTURER:Hewlett-Packard; > DESCRIPTION:HP LaserJet 1100 Printer; > COMMAND SET:MLC,PCL,PJL; ^^^ This line is truly interesting: it can allow to select filters. Is anyone "au fait" enough with ghostscript to make a file with matches between protocols and filters? This may have its use later - for one, the installation process. The problem is, it only works with recent printers... -- fg # rm *;o o: command not found
[Cooker] printer autodetection
Could any of you having printers send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the content of cat /proc/parport/*/autoprobe It should be something like: CLASS:PRINTER; MODEL:HP LaserJet 1100; MANUFACTURER:Hewlett-Packard; DESCRIPTION:HP LaserJet 1100 Printer; COMMAND SET:MLC,PCL,PJL; That way, we'll have printer autodetection for next release :) It's the parport_probe module that provides this information. Only recent printers provide this information. Don't send empty autoprobe, it's sadly of no use, as this information must be in the printer ;-( thanks, cu Pixel.