Re: [Cooker] menus in kde

2003-11-17 Thread Morreale Jean Roc
Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :
Hi

I lost most of my menus in kde after upgrading to cooker
some weeks ago. Is there a way I can reinstall 
default menus? Which program would it be?

best regards
keld
Have you made an update of the kde menu ? I know that it solved the 
loss of my default menu on 9.2.





Re: [Cooker] Menus in KDE

2002-09-23 Thread Alastair Scott

Robert J. Rossana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(09/23/2002 16:57)

I posted a comment last week that menus were screwed up in RC3.  I tried 
update-menus -v as root and it does not complete.  One suggestion that was 
posted in response was that I should hit return to complete the update.  I 
did so and it makes no difference.  This does not happen on my home machine 
where menus appaer as they should.  So there seems to be a problem creating 
KDE menus in RC3.

I've been struggling with a similar issue; I installed RC3 (
reformatting / in the process but not /home) and didn't install some 
packages that were installed in RC2. This caused some unexpected 
problems in Gnome;

i. The menu items for the RC2 packages that weren't reinstalled were 
still there in the RC3 menus but without icons [no surprise there];

ii. update-menus -v didn't remove them;

iii. menudrake didn't show the entries for the deleted packages, so I 
couldn't remove them that way.

Because of ii and iii I'm rather at a loss on how to remove the 
redundant menu items.

Alastair


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Re: [Cooker] Menus in KDE

2002-09-23 Thread s

On Monday 23 September 2002 11:15 am, Alastair Scott wrote:
 Robert J. Rossana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (09/23/2002 16:57)

 I posted a comment last week that menus were screwed up in RC3.  I
  tried update-menus -v as root and it does not complete.  One


 i. The menu items for the RC2 packages that weren't reinstalled
 were still there in the RC3 menus but without icons [no surprise
 there];

 Because of ii and iii I'm rather at a loss on how to remove the
 redundant menu items.

Well, this probably shouldn't be necessary from a newbie point of 
view, but have you looked in /usr/share/applnk-mdk ?  You could 
probably delete the extraneous .desktop items there probably (or 
since you're using the same /home, maybe they're in there - you might 
could mv your window manager's config and let them rebuild).

As for the OP, do you have an working applnk-mdk you can cp over?  
I've seen this before sometimes with a fresh install (I think the 
cooker snapshot may have done this too me) and I've seen it a couple 
of times after updating kde, but I just copied over a working 
applnk-mdk directory from another partition/install.   I'm sure 
someone could send you an archive of it if you don't have one, I'd be 
glad too.  

As an aside, my menus on my fresh rc3 install were fine, as they 
should be.  This may be something difficult to trace.  I did an 
'expert' 'install'.
-s




Re: [Cooker] Menus in KDE

2002-09-23 Thread Alastair Scott

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 17:43, Gregory K. Meyer wrote:

 On Monday 23 September 2002 12:15, Alastair Scott wrote:
  i. The menu items for the RC2 packages that weren't reinstalled were
  still there in the RC3 menus but without icons [no surprise there];
 
  ii. update-menus -v didn't remove them;
 
 Try update-menus as user.  I have tried this and it apears to reset the menu 
 entries that might be set in ~/.kde

That was probably too obvious for me to come up with and needed another
pair of eyes ... but it works and the redundant Gnome menu entries have
gone!

Thanks 

Alastair



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Re: [Cooker] Menus again!

2002-08-22 Thread Michel Fodje

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 22:31, Austin Acton wrote:
 Are you kidding?  As a newbie I tried about six distros, and one of the
 main reasons I stuck with Mandrake was because it had the most complete
 and intuitive menu.
Which does not have any flaws and cannot be improved?

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 21:28, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 This is YOUR opinion. We have another one. And Gnome menu layout 
 doesn't scale with all installed applications (not only GNOME 
 applications..)
If the Gnome Menu does not fit the Mandrake User interface guidelines,
it may as well be left out completely. 



If you insist on including it, a more appropriate name for it is GNOME
Menu or better still just GNOME since the user knows it is a menu.
'menu GNOME' may make a lot of sense to French speaking people but
sounds very strange in English.  I understand that most Mandrake
developers are French speaking, that is why forums like this exist so
people can point out things that are overlooked.  

I doubt that the Mandrake Guidelines which you follow permit double
entries with same titles.  Such as two GNOME entries under
Configuration? 

Finally, I thought it was obvious that everything I write here is MY
OPINION, do you have an alternative way to propose improvements without
stating one's opinion?  I would appreciate the lesson so I can spare you
the trouble next time.  

/michel





Re: [Cooker] Menus again!

2002-08-21 Thread Frederic Crozat

Le Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:52:13 +, Michel Fodje a écrit :

 Dear Mandrake developers,
 I would like to bring your attention again to the problem with Menu Layout
 in Mandrake.
 
 The menu layout is currently unintuitive and confusing. (I have tested
 this under the GNOME environment, it may be different under KDE)

This is YOUR opinion. We have another one. And Gnome menu layout doesn't
scale with all installed applications (not only GNOME applications..)

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Re: [Cooker] Menus again!

2002-08-21 Thread Austin Acton

Are you kidding?  As a newbie I tried about six distros, and one of the
main reasons I stuck with Mandrake was because it had the most complete
and intuitive menu.
Austin

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 19:52, Michel Fodje wrote:
 Dear Mandrake developers,
 I would like to bring your attention again to the problem with Menu
 Layout in Mandrake.  
 
 The menu layout is currently unintuitive and confusing.
 (I have tested this under the GNOME environment, it may be different
 under KDE)
 
 Why not follow the Gnome HIG:
 http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/1.0/desktop-integration.html
 
 /michel
 





Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-17 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Loki uses there own installer, similar to the windoze install program. 
 This installer was written based on the KDE 1.X menu structure so doesn't 
 work too well when placing menu items under KDE 2.

looking at the installer it look like it a simple script who generate
the menus, it shouldn't be too hard to hack it for mandrake.

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Vincent Saugey

On Saturday 11 November 2000 16:44, Armisis Aieoln wrote:
 Isent menudrake's mission to make a common menu between all
 desktop environments? 
Yes, it's

 If so, in 7.2 its not working,
 try installing some loki games, and wpo2000, they may
 show on your menu for the root user, but they do not
 get migrated to other users... 
What package do you install ? Mandrake one ?
debian menu, provide a good tools to have same menu structure on different 
windows manager, and with menudrake you can edit this structure. But if you 
install package from different source than mandrake or debian, this package 
probably not install the correct menu entry in /usr/lib/menu.

 under K plus tuns of other garbage... a menu standard for linux
 must be developed, it waists too much time to keep updating each
 menu for each user, and for each desktop gnome kde ect
You're completly agree, it's waste of time for packaging task to configure 
menu entry for each applications with each windows manager.

Vince
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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Armisis Aieoln

On Monday 13 November 2000 15:16, you wrote:
 On Saturday 11 November 2000 16:44, Armisis Aieoln wrote:
  Isent menudrake's mission to make a common menu between all
  desktop environments?

 Yes, it's

  If so, in 7.2 its not working,
  try installing some loki games, and wpo2000, they may
  show on your menu for the root user, but they do not
  get migrated to other users...

 What package do you install ? Mandrake one ?
 debian menu, provide a good tools to have same menu structure on different
 windows manager, and with menudrake you can edit this structure. But if you
 install package from different source than mandrake or debian, this package
 probably not install the correct menu entry in /usr/lib/menu.

Corel software, and Loki games



  under K plus tuns of other garbage... a menu standard for linux
  must be developed, it waists too much time to keep updating each
  menu for each user, and for each desktop gnome kde ect

 You're completly agree, it's waste of time for packaging task to configure
 menu entry for each applications with each windows manager.

 Vince


thanks for the help!!!

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Vincent Saugey

On Monday 13 November 2000 15:32, Armisis Aieoln wrote:
 thanks for the help!!!

For convert a kde desktop entry to a debian menu entry you can use
/usr/bin/kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl script.
Writting the result in /etc/menu/ directory.

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Daouda LO

Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Monday 13 November 2000 15:16, you wrote:

[...]

  install package from different source than mandrake or debian, this package
  probably not install the correct menu entry in /usr/lib/menu.
 
 Corel software, and Loki games

As told in this ml (1 week ago) , Corel come with one package menu which 
screw up our menu if installed. One workaround is to delete this package
in dist/redhat/i386 before installing. Drawback: u don't have a menu entry
on desktop and must launch corel from shell.
Maybe the same for loki games ...   

 
 
 
   under K plus tuns of other garbage... a menu standard for linux
   must be developed, it waists too much time to keep updating each
   menu for each user, and for each desktop gnome kde ect
 
  You're completly agree, it's waste of time for packaging task to configure
  menu entry for each applications with each windows manager.
 
  Vince
 
 
 thanks for the help!!!
 
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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Armisis Aieoln

Tried that i got:


[root@arrivial bin]# /usr/bin/kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl script
E: You gave me 0 parameters. This script must be invoked with parameters: 
package section file_in file_out [requires] [title]
[root@arrivial bin]# 

dave


On Monday 13 November 2000 16:19, you wrote:
 On Monday 13 November 2000 15:32, Armisis Aieoln wrote:
  thanks for the help!!!

 For convert a kde desktop entry to a debian menu entry you can use
 /usr/bin/kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl script.
 Writting the result in /etc/menu/ directory.

 Vince

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Armisis Aieoln

I used gedit and got everything to work system wide for gnome (adding 
loki stuff and corel stuff by hand)

On Monday 13 November 2000 16:37, you wrote:
 Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Monday 13 November 2000 15:16, you wrote:

 [...]

   install package from different source than mandrake or debian, this
   package probably not install the correct menu entry in /usr/lib/menu.
 
  Corel software, and Loki games

 As told in this ml (1 week ago) , Corel come with one package menu which
 screw up our menu if installed. One workaround is to delete this package
 in dist/redhat/i386 before installing. Drawback: u don't have a menu entry
 on desktop and must launch corel from shell.
 Maybe the same for loki games ...

under K plus tuns of other garbage... a menu standard for linux
must be developed, it waists too much time to keep updating each
menu for each user, and for each desktop gnome kde ect
  
   You're completly agree, it's waste of time for packaging task to
   configure menu entry for each applications with each windows manager.
  
   Vince
 
  thanks for the help!!!
 
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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Sam

Loki uses there own installer, similar to the windoze install program. 
This installer was written based on the KDE 1.X menu structure so doesn't 
work too well when placing menu items under KDE 2.

This brings up another suggestion for Mandrake. Loki has made the code 
for their installer available for free. You might think about using it as 
an option on the future versions of the Power Pack releases. This would 
give windoze users an interface for installing the additional packages 
that is familiar to them. Personnally, I prefer using the packaage 
handlers as they make it easier to see what's happening to your system.

But one of the appeals of Windoze is it makes installation of software 
pretty much a no brainer.

 Original Message 

On 11/13/00, 9:37:35 AM, Daouda LO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
regarding Re: [Cooker] Menus:


 Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Monday 13 November 2000 15:16, you wrote:

 [...]

   install package from different source than mandrake or debian, this 
package
   probably not install the correct menu entry in /usr/lib/menu.
 
  Corel software, and Loki games

 As told in this ml (1 week ago) , Corel come with one package menu which
 screw up our menu if installed. One workaround is to delete this package
 in dist/redhat/i386 before installing. Drawback: u don't have a menu 
entry
 on desktop and must launch corel from shell.
 Maybe the same for loki games ...

 
 
  
under K plus tuns of other garbage... a menu standard for linux
must be developed, it waists too much time to keep updating each
menu for each user, and for each desktop gnome kde ect
  
   You're completly agree, it's waste of time for packaging task to 
configure
   menu entry for each applications with each windows manager.
  
   Vince
 
 
  thanks for the help!!!
 
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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Armisis Aieoln

Woops that was gmenu i used not gedit... (duh)


On Monday 13 November 2000 16:37, you wrote:
 Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Monday 13 November 2000 15:16, you wrote:

 [...]

   install package from different source than mandrake or debian, this
   package probably not install the correct menu entry in /usr/lib/menu.
 
  Corel software, and Loki games

 As told in this ml (1 week ago) , Corel come with one package menu which
 screw up our menu if installed. One workaround is to delete this package
 in dist/redhat/i386 before installing. Drawback: u don't have a menu entry
 on desktop and must launch corel from shell.
 Maybe the same for loki games ...

under K plus tuns of other garbage... a menu standard for linux
must be developed, it waists too much time to keep updating each
menu for each user, and for each desktop gnome kde ect
  
   You're completly agree, it's waste of time for packaging task to
   configure menu entry for each applications with each windows manager.
  
   Vince
 
  thanks for the help!!!
 
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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Armisis Aieoln

i dont know what those are GRIN


On Monday 13 November 2000 17:39, you wrote:
 Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Tried that i got:
 
 
  [root@arrivial bin]# /usr/bin/kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl script
  E: You gave me 0 parameters. This script must be invoked with parameters:
  package section file_in file_out [requires] [title]
  [root@arrivial bin]#

 So what? Give these ** parameters! :-)

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i dont know what those are GRIN

So don't use the script!! 

What do you want to do!?

If you want to generate a menu entry, enter the name of the package, the
name of the menu section, the name of the in file (.desktop of kde) the
name of the out file (the newly created /usr/lib/menu entry) and optional
forceds requires and title.

I don't see your problem.


PS : can you quote the messages the right way, a.k.a putting your comments
 after my sentences?

 
 On Monday 13 November 2000 17:39, you wrote:
  Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Tried that i got:
  
  
   [root@arrivial bin]# /usr/bin/kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl script
   E: You gave me 0 parameters. This script must be invoked with parameters:
   package section file_in file_out [requires] [title]
   [root@arrivial bin]#
 
  So what? Give these ** parameters! :-)

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-13 Thread Armisis Aieoln

On Monday 13 November 2000 18:38, you wrote:
 Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  i dont know what those are GRIN

 So don't use the script!!

 What do you want to do!?

 If you want to generate a menu entry, enter the name of the package, the
 name of the menu section, the name of the in file (.desktop of kde) the
 name of the out file (the newly created /usr/lib/menu entry) and optional
 forceds requires and title.


Ill try that, but isent menudrake supposta do that?

 I don't see your problem.


 PS : can you quote the messages the right way, a.k.a putting your comments
  after my sentences?

Alright.

thanks
dave


  On Monday 13 November 2000 17:39, you wrote:
   Armisis Aieoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tried that i got:
   
   
[root@arrivial bin]# /usr/bin/kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl script
E: You gave me 0 parameters. This script must be invoked with
parameters: package section file_in file_out [requires]
[title]
[root@arrivial bin]#
  
   So what? Give these ** parameters! :-)

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-11-11 Thread Armisis Aieoln

Isent menudrake's mission to make a common menu between all
desktop environments? If so, in 7.2 its not working, 
try installing some loki games, and wpo2000, they may
show on your menu for the root user, but they do not
get migrated to other users... not to mention i have 8 control pannels
under K plus tuns of other garbage... a menu standard for linux
must be developed, it waists too much time to keep updating each
menu for each user, and for each desktop gnome kde ect

dave




Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-08-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Mike  Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 "B. K. Barley" wrote:
  
  From a user perspective in regards to this menu issue,
  
  I just would like to know how to add things to the default menus that
  don't get added.  For instance, when I install Star Office, or Compupic,
  or some other app that is not included with the distribution, I can not
  add it to the menus.  I have looked at the documentation for 7.1 and
  searched all around the docs in cooker but found nothing.
  
  Bryan
 
 As root, click on the big 'K' (assuming you're using kde) -
 Configuration - Other - Menu Editor

No! That's the wrong thing to do!

"Mike  Tracy Holt", you're on this list since a long time now, I'm quite
surprised that you yet did not realize that we're using the menu-system
from Debian, which is WM independant.

Therefore, you have to edit the entries of the menu-system, no WM-specific
menus, or else your changes will be lost at the next update of the menu
system.

Either edit/add some files in /usr/lib/menu/ (documentation in
/usr/share/doc/menu*) or use the newly released beta menu editor called
DrakeMenu appearing in Cooker right now.


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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-08-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"B. K. Barley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 From a user perspective in regards to this menu issue,
 
   I just would like to know how to add things to the default menus that
 don't get added.  For instance, when I install Star Office, or Compupic,
 or some other app that is not included with the distribution, I can not
 add it to the menus.  I have looked at the documentation for 7.1 and
 searched all around the docs in cooker but found nothing.

Add/customize entries in /usr/lib/menu/ (searching the documentation in
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/howtos/mdk-rpm/advanced.html#AEN656 and
/usr/share/doc/menu*/) or try the DrakeMenu editor in cooker.


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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-08-10 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Menus


 "Mike  Tracy Holt", you're on this list since a long time now, I'm quite
 surprised that you yet did not realize that we're using the menu-system
 from Debian, which is WM independant.



I like the menu approach taken by DemoLinux (www.demolinux.com IIRC). The
default to the GNOME desktop and have both the Gnome and KDE "start" buttons
available side-by-side. A very nice touch.

Hoyt





Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-08-05 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

"B. K. Barley" wrote:
 
 From a user perspective in regards to this menu issue,
 
 I just would like to know how to add things to the default menus that
 don't get added.  For instance, when I install Star Office, or Compupic,
 or some other app that is not included with the distribution, I can not
 add it to the menus.  I have looked at the documentation for 7.1 and
 searched all around the docs in cooker but found nothing.
 
 Bryan

As root, click on the big 'K' (assuming you're using kde) -
Configuration - Other - Menu Editor

From there you can change your menu to whatever you want.

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-08-05 Thread Vincent Danen

On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:05:03AM -0400, B. K. Barley wrote:

 From a user perspective in regards to this menu issue,
 
   I just would like to know how to add things to the default menus that
 don't get added.  For instance, when I install Star Office, or Compupic,
 or some other app that is not included with the distribution, I can not
 add it to the menus.  I have looked at the documentation for 7.1 and
 searched all around the docs in cooker but found nothing.

Until the menu editor is ready, I'd suggest adding that stuff to your
favourites menu.  It doesn't get overwritten when you install new
packages, so everything should be ok in there.

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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-08-05 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sat, 05 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 "B. K. Barley" wrote:
  
  From a user perspective in regards to this menu issue,
  
  I just would like to know how to add things to the default menus that
  don't get added.  For instance, when I install Star Office, or Compupic,
  or some other app that is not included with the distribution, I can not
  add it to the menus.  I have looked at the documentation for 7.1 and
  searched all around the docs in cooker but found nothing.
  
  Bryan
 
 As root, click on the big 'K' (assuming you're using kde) -
 Configuration - Other - Menu Editor
 
 From there you can change your menu to whatever you want.
 
 Mike

   Well, I'm mostly a perenial newbie lurker spying on y'all, but
this seems to only work if I log into root's desktop.  If I make the
changes from my user desktop (ie, su to root to start 'kmenuedit'),
they aren't 'lasting'.  By that I mean they might last thru several
reboots to W98 to fly airplanes... but they might not either, even
from root.  Sometimes a re-start of X causes the loss. I never have
figured out a common denominator.  About   25% of the time, I log
into my user desktop to find all my menu customizations have been
lost :(  (7.1 from lland.com CD's, expert-full enchilada-medium
security)  I never had this situation with Mdk = 7.0

  What seems to have solved this, at least for the time being
knock on wood ; , is I made a /usr/share/applnk copy dir,
/applink-bak.  The last time I lost additions, I copied (as root,
and from root's desktop) /applnk-bak dir contents, overwriting, to
.../applnk.  So far, so good.  

  Several flights later ;   DC3 or Songbird

 "out of the clear blue western sky. comes SkyKing! "
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Re: [Cooker] Menus

2000-06-03 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 03-Jun-00 by B. K. Barley:
 Ok,
 
 This may not be the best time, or even the right place but I have a
 problem with the menus.  This is not a bug per say...but more of an
 annoyance.  How is it possible to add menu items for programs installed
 that are not part of the distribution?  I would like to add star office,
 word perfect, and some other stuff that does not get automatically added
 when installed.  Could there be a possible utility created that would
 allow this?  Say drakmenu?
 
 B. K. Barley

Had the same problem.  What I did was create menu entries manually.
In the file ~/.menu/soffice:

?package(local.soffice):\
needs="x11"\
section="Office"\
title="Star Office"\
longtitle="Sun's StarOffice suite"\
command="$HOME/Office51/bin/soffice"\
icon="/opt/Office51/s_soffice.xpm"

This file could just as easily be placed in /usr/lib/menu if you
wanted global access to the menu entry.  Note that the "local." tells
the menu system that this was not installed from an RPM/DEB, but to
assume that it exists.

I can't imagine that it would be too difficult to write a script that
allowed you to enter the relevent details and created the menu
entries.  (Though there would likely be some cosiderations I am not
aware of, having not done *any* scripting for X.)

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