Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:55:41 +0100, Robert Fox wrote: When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)? When I have time.. Cooker will have (in that order) : 1.4.1, then 1.5 then 1.6alpha.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .
Am Freitag, 7. November 2003, 10:19:08 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat: On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:55:41 +0100, Robert Fox wrote: When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)? When I have time.. Cooker will have (in that order) : 1.4.1, then 1.5 then 1.6alpha.. Skip that 1.6alpha, at least for me it's really really broken. I've only tested it yet on Windows, but the mail program was unusable. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Fox wrote: When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)? Look in the MandrakeClub mirrors in the mean time. (there are some minor issues with the build, I don't know if it's specific to the build or generic buglets in 1.5 - David Coe has problems with mail crashing when starting it from the browser, and I have to remove my XUL.mfasl file before I start mozilla if I want enigmail to work). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/q2c7rJK6UGDSBKcRAoadAJwNg4XOufnHVifEznjx05oXNdsnwgCdEWuc AEFODT/9lEFZ46ZTyMe/G5M= =LaxU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 10:19, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:55:41 +0100, Robert Fox wrote: When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)? When I have time.. Cooker will have (in that order) : 1.4.1, then 1.5 then 1.6alpha.. Thanks for the prompt reply!! This is MUCH appreciated! R.Fox
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:25:40 +0100, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Freitag, 7. November 2003, 10:19:08 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat: On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:55:41 +0100, Robert Fox wrote: When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)? When I have time.. Cooker will have (in that order) : 1.4.1, then 1.5 then 1.6alpha.. Skip that 1.6alpha, at least for me it's really really broken. I've only tested it yet on Windows, but the mail program was unusable. Heh, is it cooker or is it Debian stable ? : Seriously, 1.6 beta is scheduled for November 21, so since it will take some time to do 1.4.1 and 1.5, we might wait for it.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-mail-1.4-15mdk crashes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Walsh wrote: | Opening the mail window in Mozilla causes Mozilla to crash with an exit | 11. | Yep, I saw this one too just two minutes ago :-( Starting Messenger crashed all Mozilla windows. Jan - -- Jan Ciger VRlab EPFL Switzerland GPG public key : http://www.keyserver.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/q8ajn11XseNj94gRAsAHAKDglGJHPBQqd/ujf4Nxoks0kHrh7ACgvqyR CRmqQYnzB2QJUc4UO+1HEus= =8XQR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-mail-1.4-15mdk crashes
Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Walsh wrote: | Opening the mail window in Mozilla causes Mozilla to crash with an exit | 11. | Yep, I saw this one too just two minutes ago :-( Starting Messenger crashed all Mozilla windows. should be fixed in mozilla-1.4-16mdk Bye. Giuseppe
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-mail-1.4-15mdk crashes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: | Yep, I saw this one too just two minutes ago :-( Starting Messenger | crashed all Mozilla windows. | | | should be fixed in mozilla-1.4-16mdk | | Bye. | Giuseppe Cool, thanks! Jan - -- Jan Ciger VRlab EPFL Switzerland GPG public key : http://www.keyserver.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/rAgkn11XseNj94gRArenAJ48exF2wW6wFeKuRaVRWTEnVepTjACgkGbc sZWaOL5QaJ6J1kyLYW6ofvc= =3Lan -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla crash because of libgaleon-xpcom.so ??
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:56:08 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pascal]$ mozilla -mail /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/mozilla-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/galeon/components/libgaleon-xpcom.so: undefined symbol: eel_gconf_get_string [EMAIL PROTECTED] pascal]$ I don't understand why does mozilla use something from galeon... I remember I already saw something about this but just found http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 (maybe I just remembered reading this bug). Could you reopen this bug and add ALL info from your system on it ? -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla crash because of libgaleon-xpcom.so ??
Frederic Crozat wrote: On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:56:08 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pascal]$ mozilla -mail /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/mozilla-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/galeon/components/libgaleon-xpcom.so: undefined symbol: eel_gconf_get_string [EMAIL PROTECTED] pascal]$ I don't understand why does mozilla use something from galeon... I remember I already saw something about this but just found http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2599 (maybe I just remembered reading this bug). Could you reopen this bug and add ALL info from your system on it ? Arrrg. Seeing no answer and needing to read my mails, I just did urpme mozilla 5 minutes ago (and reinstalled every previously installed stuff depending on it : galeon-1.3.8-2mdk.i586 mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-13mdk.i586 mozilla-enigmail-1.4-13mdk.i586 mozilla-enigmime-1.4-13mdk.i586 mozilla-js-debugger-1.4-13mdk.i586 mozilla-livehttpheaders-0.6-1.20030627.5mdk.noarch mozilla-mail-1.4-13mdk.i586 mozilla-spellchecker-1.4-13mdk.i586 ) Now no problem anymore, sorry.
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:34:50 +, David Coe wrote: I mentioned in an earlier thread that I was having problems with the Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk placed in the MandrakeClub archive, in particular, that pressing the Mail icon on the Browser Status Bar (down at the bottom left-hand corner) quite often resulted in an unceremonious closedown of all Mozilla windows. This bug had been *very* noticeable with Chip Cuccio's first offering of Mozilla-1.5 on his NORLUG archive (I can't speak for the second), was sporadically present with Buchan Milne / Fred Crozat's MandrakeClub RPM and was absent (as far as I can tell) from Scott Bolander's XFT-enabled tarball. I'm going to be a little rude but let's explain this clearly : I DON'T maintain Mandrake Club RPMs (I didn't upload nor check them) and I DON'T want to hear from them, specially on cooker mailing list.. I NEVER did those packages. The only package I maintain are on cooker. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
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Frederic Crozat wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:34:50 +, David Coe wrote:
I mentioned in an earlier thread that I was having problems with the
Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk placed in the MandrakeClub archive, in particular,
that pressing the Mail icon on the Browser Status Bar (down at the
bottom left-hand corner) quite often resulted in an unceremonious
closedown of all Mozilla windows.
This bug had been *very* noticeable with Chip Cuccio's first offering of
Mozilla-1.5 on his NORLUG archive (I can't speak for the second), was
sporadically present with Buchan Milne / Fred Crozat's MandrakeClub RPM
and was absent (as far as I can tell) from Scott Bolander's XFT-enabled
tarball.
I'm going to be a little rude but let's explain this clearly : I DON'T
maintain Mandrake Club RPMs (I didn't upload nor check them) and I DON'T
want to hear from them, specially on cooker mailing list.. I NEVER did
those packages. The only package I maintain are on cooker.
No problem, I accept full responsibility for them, but David is the only
one reporting issues with the package (only other compaints were due to
people installing 3rd-party plugins on their own and getting some things
wrong).
However, I made no changes to any configuration options (I just backed
out the patches that were integrated upstream and updated ipc for
enigmail), so you may still want to take note of the issue. I have
attached a diff to your latest mozilla spec file in case it is useful to
you.
However, I haven't really been able to reproduce this problem myself. I
did get a crash once, but that was when testing this, and it happened
about the 15th time I opened the mail window. I tried it another two
times, and got to 20 openings of the mail window using the icon before I
stopped.
So, I will take a look at this, but I don't think it's that serious.
David, do you get the same problem when you use CTRL-2 or
Window-MailNewsgroups ?
BTW, on my cooker box (which has been running 1.5-0.92mdk for a week), I
start mozilla with the mail component first, and usually use the
keyboard shortcuts for the window I want to open, instead of the icons.
But it has been extremely stable (only one crash and that was testing
the mail icon).
I have been running 1.5-0.91mdk on my 9.1 box at home for almost 2 weeks
now, also with no problems.
Regards,
Buchan
- --
|--Another happy Mandrake Club member--|
Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager
Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202
Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za
GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc
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--- /home/bgmilne/rpm/mdk/SPECS/mozilla.spec 2003-09-18 16:13:01.0 +0200
+++ mozilla.spec 2003-10-19 11:52:40.0 +0200
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
%define lib_nss_name %mklibname nss %{major_nss}
#warning : always end release date with 00
# (it should be the hour of build but it is not significant for rpm)
-%define releasedate 2003063000
+%define releasedate 2003101500
%define french_policy 0
%define dirversion %{version}
%define mozillalibdir %{_libdir}/mozilla-%{dirversion}
@@ -16,8 +16,8 @@
%define build_xmlterm 0
%define enable_svg 0
%define build_is_final 1
-%define enable_l10n 1
-%define enable_l10n 1
+%define enable_l10n 0
+%define enable_l10n 0
%define build_debug 0
%define build_corefonts 0
%define build_ggdefaults 0
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
# used for enigmail and protozilla sources:
%define enigmail_version 0.76.1
-%define ipc_version 1.0.3
+%define ipc_version 1.0.4
%{?_with_spellcheck: %{expand: %%define build_spellcheck 1}}
%{?_with_enigmail: %{expand: %%define build_enigmail 1}}
@@ -57,8 +57,8 @@
Name: mozilla
Summary: Mozilla, open-source web browser
-Version: 1.4
-Release: 13mdk
+Version: 1.5
+Release: 0.92mdk
License: MPL
Source0: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla%{version}/src/mozilla-source-%{dirversion}.tar.bz2
Source2: mozilla_16.png
@@ -72,7 +72,7 @@
# (fc) 0.9.8-1mdk fix loading of file through command line (contributed by Chmouel) ,
# set MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH to $HOME/.mozilla/plugins, autodetect locale, add -splash parameter
Source10: mozilla-1.0.0-sh.in.bz2
-Source20: mozilla-1.4-spellcheck.tar.bz2
+#Source20: mozilla-1.4-spellcheck.tar.bz2
Source21: http://enigmail.mozdev.org/dload/src/ipc-%{ipc_version}.tar.bz2
Source22: http://enigmail.mozdev.org/dload/src/enigmail-%{enigmail_version}.tar.bz2
Source23: mdkbugzilla.gif
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@
# (gb) 1.1-0.beta.3mdk add new xptcall tests
Patch36:
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
Frederic Crozat wrote: On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:34:50 +, David Coe wrote: I mentioned in an earlier thread that I was having problems with the Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk placed in the MandrakeClub archive, in particular, that pressing the Mail icon on the Browser Status Bar (down at the bottom left-hand corner) quite often resulted in an unceremonious closedown of all Mozilla windows. This bug had been *very* noticeable with Chip Cuccio's first offering of Mozilla-1.5 on his NORLUG archive (I can't speak for the second), was sporadically present with Buchan Milne / Fred Crozat's MandrakeClub RPM and was absent (as far as I can tell) from Scott Bolander's XFT-enabled tarball. I'm going to be a little rude but let's explain this clearly : I DON'T maintain Mandrake Club RPMs (I didn't upload nor check them) and I DON'T want to hear from them, specially on cooker mailing list.. I NEVER did those packages. The only package I maintain are on cooker. That's fine, Frederik. I have assumed your interest as your name features extremely prominently (as apparent maintainer) in the rpm changelog. I appear to have strayed (by accident) into some internal Mandrake politics. My apologies! David Coe
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
Buchan Milne wrote: David, do you get the same problem when you use CTRL-2 or Window-MailNewsgroups ? The same problem which ever way is used to launch Mail. BTW, on my cooker box (which has been running 1.5-0.92mdk for a week), I start mozilla with the mail component first, and usually use the keyboard shortcuts for the window I want to open, instead of the icons. But it has been extremely stable (only one crash and that was testing the mail icon). It is indeed sporadic - so much so that I can not yet be fully sure that --with-pthreads has corrected the problem. Nonetheless, 1 in 20 requires caution and evasive action from the user. I have been running 1.5-0.91mdk on my 9.1 box at home for almost 2 weeks now, also with no problems. Can't comment, although Mozilla's own tarball was also fine. David
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
On Monday 03 November 2003 03:55 am, David Coe wrote: It is indeed sporadic - so much so that I can not yet be fully sure that --with-pthreads has corrected the problem. Nonetheless, 1 in 20 requires caution and evasive action from the user. I have been running 1.5-0.91mdk on my 9.1 box at home for almost 2 weeks now, also with no problems. Can't comment, although Mozilla's own tarball was also fine. David You know I run [EMAIL PROTECTED] clients on some machines and we had a similar problem. What we found was that some very specific sse optimizations would cause issues on only some athlons. Mostly the thourobred b's and bartons. I'm not sure the reason you are seeing this and it only occurred when pushing the cpu's very hard. I also know since i have started rebuilding the mandrake rpm's with some extreme optimizations that I do not see this behavior at all on my mandrake boxen. However I have had issues with the mandrake builds of mozilla for about 2 years now they just randomly lock up, completely crash, or the one that really bugs me is that after a while of use it gets so that you can not select text in the address bar. You have to shut it down to fix this. Because of this I almost never use the mandrake rpm's for mozilla. My regular usage is to have 1 or 2 mozilla windows open with maybe 10 or 15 tabs per window. This I have running for possibly weeks. With the mandrake builds I get maybe 3 or 4 days max. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brook Humphrey wrote: I also know since i have started rebuilding the mandrake rpm's with some extreme optimizations that I do not see this behavior at all on my mandrake boxen. However I have had issues with the mandrake builds of mozilla for about 2 years now they just randomly lock up, completely crash, or the one that really bugs me is that after a while of use it gets so that you can not select text in the address bar. You have to shut it down to fix this. Not really. You can temorarily get it back working by minimizing and switching back to the window you were using, sometimes you need to do it more than once (and there are other methods). But AFAIK this is not processort specific, and may be GTK2/KDE bug. Because of this I almost never use the mandrake rpm's for mozilla. So, which binaries work ok then? Mozilla 1.0.x-1.2.x worked fine using Mandrake builds, so I think it is a GTK2 issue (and you wouldn't see it on GTK1.x builds). My regular usage is to have 1 or 2 mozilla windows open with maybe 10 or 15 tabs per window. This I have running for possibly weeks. With the mandrake builds I get maybe 3 or 4 days max. My regular use is at least 2 windows open, usually 25 tabs open total. I probably have to do the minimize-ALT-SHIFT-TAB trick about once every two hours or so of use. Fred tried to reproduce it, but didn't succeed, and I don't think he'll take kindly to running KDE and Mozilla for a week to find it ... he complained as it was about having to run Mozilla instead of epiphany ;-). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/plGxrJK6UGDSBKcRAvupAJwJ9xAHuJGimJWxdVdKCtJPoKdPkQCfdN4v 54oa3GYxnUxPxOgsPNgrmtY= =Uie1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
On Monday 03 November 2003 05:01 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Not really. You can temorarily get it back working by minimizing and switching back to the window you were using, sometimes you need to do it more than once (and there are other methods). But AFAIK this is not processort specific, and may be GTK2/KDE bug. hm interesting that should be about right. and I think i may have used that before now that I think about it. I think that was my7 point is that it was not processor specific since i have been doing some custom athlon builds that are highly optimized and it has not changed this as far as I can tell. I dont get this with firebird though. Because of this I almost never use the mandrake rpm's for mozilla. So, which binaries work ok then? Mozilla 1.0.x-1.2.x worked fine using Mandrake builds, so I think it is a GTK2 issue (and you wouldn't see it on GTK1.x builds). well the generic nightlies from mozilla.org. I rarely run the official builds. They all within reason seem to run about the same sometimes I'll get one that was a bad build but it's not often. My regular use is at least 2 windows open, usually 25 tabs open total. I probably have to do the minimize-ALT-SHIFT-TAB trick about once every two hours or so of use. Fred tried to reproduce it, but didn't succeed, and I don't think he'll take kindly to running KDE and Mozilla for a week to find it ... he complained as it was about having to run Mozilla instead of epiphany ;-). Ah yes I suppose when they dont use it for thier own work then they dont care as much when it is broken. On this filosiphy I have been working on a custom auto install of windows xp also. It consumed allot of time but you know what after working with it and getting it working well I decided that I had a choice of what I want to support with that level of above and beyond the call of duty type or support. I decided that I would rather have a working linux and so to that end I have been putting extra time lately into the linux apps I want to see working well. If I dont like the way gimp for instance is done well then I'll offer my help to get it to the place were others will find it more useful also. It's a hard choice but I know which os I want to support. I would see this as the same. They dont want to support kde and so they dont. It's that simple. I feel the same about gnome and when I roll out a server it runs kde and my customers love the way it acts more or less like windows. Regards, Buchan -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
Brook Humphrey wrote: You know I run [EMAIL PROTECTED] clients on some machines and we had a similar problem. What we found was that some very specific sse optimizations would cause issues on only some athlons. Mostly the thourobred b's and bartons. I'm not sure the reason you are seeing this and it only occurred when pushing the cpu's very hard. Ah .. the [EMAIL PROTECTED] that was (or still is). I also know since i have started rebuilding the mandrake rpm's with some extreme optimizations that I do not see this behavior at all on my mandrake boxen. However I have had issues with the mandrake builds of mozilla for about 2 years now they just randomly lock up, completely crash, or the one that really bugs me is that after a while of use it gets so that you can not select text in the address bar. You have to shut it down to fix this. Because of this I almost never use the mandrake rpm's for mozilla. I did wonder about athlons and the degree of optimization. I recall the same scenario at MDK 9.1 release time. Buchan's early-bird Mozilla 1.3 migrated to cooker AFAIR mainly with -O3 moved back to -O2 and what felt like a drop in stability. The abrupt closure I see, the lock-up rather rarely and the loss of text selection not at all. My regular usage is to have 1 or 2 mozilla windows open with maybe 10 or 15 tabs per window. This I have running for possibly weeks. With the mandrake builds I get maybe 3 or 4 days max. That sounds like you're dispensing with xft and/or using Mozilla's own binaries. Fortunately (like OO.o) installation is very easy :-). David
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
On Monday 03 November 2003 06:25 am, David Coe wrote: Ah .. the [EMAIL PROTECTED] that was (or still is). well [EMAIL PROTECTED] has merged into [EMAIL PROTECTED] but that is a small amount of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] does. I also know since i have started rebuilding the mandrake rpm's with some extreme optimizations that I do not see this behavior at all on my mandrake boxen. However I have had issues with the mandrake builds of mozilla for about 2 years now they just randomly lock up, completely crash, or the one that really bugs me is that after a while of use it gets so that you can not select text in the address bar. You have to shut it down to fix this. Because of this I almost never use the mandrake rpm's for mozilla. I did wonder about athlons and the degree of optimization. I recall the same scenario at MDK 9.1 release time. Buchan's early-bird Mozilla 1.3 migrated to cooker AFAIR mainly with -O3 moved back to -O2 and what felt like a drop in stability. The abrupt closure I see, the lock-up rather rarely and the loss of text selection not at all. well here are the flags I'm playing with now. optflags: athlon -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=athlon-xp -ffast-math -fno-strength-reduce -fforce-addr -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -frerun-cse-after-loop -frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -fprefetch-loop-arrays out of those the -O3 and --march=athlon-xp will give the biggest boost. and these can not be used for everything. glibc had to be backed off some bug gcc compiled fine. xfree had to be backed off some also but qt compiles fine with these. It is much snappier on my athlon machine I'm slowly working on more things. KDE is next and possibly the kernel but i dont really feel like playing with the kernel rpm much. My regular usage is to have 1 or 2 mozilla windows open with maybe 10 or 15 tabs per window. This I have running for possibly weeks. With the mandrake builds I get maybe 3 or 4 days max. That sounds like you're dispensing with xft and/or using Mozilla's own binaries. Fortunately (like OO.o) installation is very easy :-). yes I am and I tell you what I miss xft very much. Jaggy mozilla is no fun. I have also been playing with the custom builds of thunderbird and firebird from mozillazine. These are done by others in the community. They run very nice. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
Brook Humphrey wrote: well here are the flags I'm playing with now. optflags: athlon -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=athlon-xp -ffast-math -fno-strength-reduce -fforce-addr -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -frerun-cse-after-loop -frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -fprefetch-loop-arrays out of those the -O3 and --march=athlon-xp will give the biggest boost. and these can not be used for everything. glibc had to be backed off some bug gcc compiled fine. xfree had to be backed off some also but qt compiles fine with these. It is much snappier on my athlon machine I'm slowly working on more things. KDE is next and possibly the kernel but i dont really feel like playing with the kernel rpm much. Many thanks - I'll try feeding a subset of those into rpmrc. Sometimes I do wonder how many days of optimising rebuild == an adm64. Still, that route will have other problems in tow. Sigh ... My regular usage is to have 1 or 2 mozilla windows open with maybe 10 or 15 tabs per window. This I have running for possibly weeks. With the mandrake builds I get maybe 3 or 4 days max. That sounds like you're dispensing with xft and/or using Mozilla's own binaries. Fortunately (like OO.o) installation is very easy :-). yes I am and I tell you what I miss xft very much. Jaggy mozilla is no fun. I have also been playing with the custom builds of thunderbird and firebird from mozillazine. These are done by others in the community. They run very nice. Yes, and come out very quickly. David
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
David Coe wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: David, do you get the same problem when you use CTRL-2 or Window-MailNewsgroups ? The same problem which ever way is used to launch Mail. BTW, on my cooker box (which has been running 1.5-0.92mdk for a week), I start mozilla with the mail component first, and usually use the keyboard shortcuts for the window I want to open, instead of the icons. But it has been extremely stable (only one crash and that was testing the mail icon). It is indeed sporadic - so much so that I can not yet be fully sure that --with-pthreads has corrected the problem. Nonetheless, 1 in 20 requires caution and evasive action from the user. I have been running 1.5-0.91mdk on my 9.1 box at home for almost 2 weeks now, also with no problems. Can't comment, although Mozilla's own tarball was also fine. David Anytime I get a crash with the mail component of mozilla, I delete XUL.mfasl from my .mozilla profile. Wonder if this is related. http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168516 Rolf
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
Rolf Pedersen wrote: Anytime I get a crash with the mail component of mozilla, I delete XUL.mfasl from my .mozilla profile. Wonder if this is related. http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168516 I think I remember this one from Mozilla 1.1 days - AFAIR a crash in Mail followed by failure to restart unless XUL.mfasl was deleted. My feeling is it's something different, but I'll keep it in mind. Anyway, so far so good with --with-pthreads (but I don't understand it). David
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Coe wrote: BTW, I also have mozilla-1.5 packages built for Mandrake Club for 9.2, which are just waiting for the admin to get the permissions right on the upload server for 9.2, the 9.1 packages are in testing. I did notice the mozilla-1.5 packages up on ranger but alas without the corresponding lib files. You couldn't put them up and/or the spec file? Binaries and the SRPM are now on the public MandrakeClub mirrors for 9.1 and 9.2, for example in: ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/mandrake/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.1/i586/ and ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/mandrake/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.2/i586/ Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/nntArJK6UGDSBKcRAhdmAJwOSs5GUskfYU9sLrCiF2otqUMRXQCffLrh vBEfWy3OrHi9JQBuHuhlXRU= =f+w8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
if anyone wants, I have a spec which wraps the thunderbirds binaries from the site, into an rpm. works like a charm, and takes 20 secs to make. Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Coe wrote: BTW, I also have mozilla-1.5 packages built for Mandrake Club for 9.2, which are just waiting for the admin to get the permissions right on the upload server for 9.2, the 9.1 packages are in testing. I did notice the mozilla-1.5 packages up on ranger but alas without the corresponding lib files. You couldn't put them up and/or the spec file? Binaries and the SRPM are now on the public MandrakeClub mirrors for 9.1 and 9.2, for example in: ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/mandrake/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.1/i586/ and ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/mandrake/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.2/i586/ Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/nntArJK6UGDSBKcRAhdmAJwOSs5GUskfYU9sLrCiF2otqUMRXQCffLrh vBEfWy3OrHi9JQBuHuhlXRU= =f+w8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
I'm also waiting the Mozilla 1.5 release on Cooker . . Take a number . . . ;-) R.Fox On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 11:45, Michael Lothian wrote: Hello again I was just wondering why mozilla firebird was offered by cooker but not thunderbird. Surely the two go hand in hand? It would be nice if 0.3 was packaged up so we woldn't have to rely on out dated tex versions Mike
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Lothian wrote: Hello again I was just wondering why mozilla firebird was offered by cooker but not thunderbird. I made a package on 9.1, and rebuilt it on cooker. The package builds fine, but it doesn't ever show a window. Starting it up creates a profile directory, then it just exits. Anyone who is interested can feel free to ask my for a binary build or SRPM for 9.1 or cooker, I have put the spec file up here: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla-thunderbird.spec It would be nice to have enigmail included in the build (which was the next thing I was going to do). Surely the two go hand in hand? If you can get them to run. It would be nice if 0.3 was packaged up so we woldn't have to rely on out dated tex versions I don't see any tex packages of thunderbird. BTW, I also have mozilla-1.5 packages built for Mandrake Club for 9.2, which are just waiting for the admin to get the permissions right on the upload server for 9.2, the 9.1 packages are in testing. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/lQKBrJK6UGDSBKcRArbEAKCOIdVXZKp+a72ut80MXHvPw2NGcwCfbGKy HQ1kXQeuqUwHpIwFNsgaAfE= =/tdc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
Buchan Milne wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Hello again I was just wondering why mozilla firebird was offered by cooker but not thunderbird. I made a package on 9.1, and rebuilt it on cooker. The package builds fine, but it doesn't ever show a window. Starting it up creates a profile directory, then it just exits. Anyone who is interested can feel free to ask my for a binary build or SRPM for 9.1 or cooker, I have put the spec file up here: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla-thunderbird.spec It would be nice to have enigmail included in the build (which was the next thing I was going to do). What exactly does enigmail do? Surely the two go hand in hand? If you can get them to run. I got the binarys to run fine from mozilla.org and the tex version (when it was available) It would be nice if 0.3 was packaged up so we woldn't have to rely on out dated tex versions I don't see any tex packages of thunderbird. Well 0.2 used to be out (it seems to have disappeared now) BTW, I also have mozilla-1.5 packages built for Mandrake Club for 9.2, which are just waiting for the admin to get the permissions right on the upload server for 9.2, the 9.1 packages are in testing. Why not pop it onto cooker too? Also it would be nice if when clickin on a link in thunderbird would open a browser of some sort preferably firebird though Mike
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Lothian wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: What exactly does enigmail do? GPG (as you can see for yourself in this mail ...) If you can get them to run. I got the binarys to run fine from mozilla.org and the tex version (when it was available) And that helps us how? (I suspect Tex's packages were just rpms wrapping up the binary release from mozilla.org like his Netscape package ...). We don't do that ... BTW, I also have mozilla-1.5 packages built for Mandrake Club for 9.2, which are just waiting for the admin to get the permissions right on the upload server for 9.2, the 9.1 packages are in testing. Why not pop it onto cooker too? Because: 1)I am not the maintainer (Fred Crozat is), I will send Fred a diff of the spec file, though I don't think he needs it ... 2)AFAIK main is still frozen for the amd64 port Also it would be nice if when clickin on a link in thunderbird would open a browser of some sort preferably firebird though We first need a thunderbird package that actually displays a window. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/lQ0krJK6UGDSBKcRAsY+AKC31pZCgPaWlE1aF2Qeh4kYlbKrDwCgx8Wn oQl/YTCMms4lm0amITNDgx0= =YBzN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
Buchan Milne wrote: We first need a thunderbird package that actually displays a window. Just tryied with your spec. Running with -g shows me [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 9702)] 0x4004ab40 in js_AllocStack () from /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird-0.3/libmozjs.so Looks like it's catched and thunderbird exits normally when it occurs.
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
Buchan Milne wrote: BTW, I also have mozilla-1.5 packages built for Mandrake Club for 9.2, which are just waiting for the admin to get the permissions right on the upload server for 9.2, the 9.1 packages are in testing. I did notice the mozilla-1.5 packages up on ranger but alas without the corresponding lib files. You couldn't put them up and/or the spec file? Best wishes David
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Coe wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: BTW, I also have mozilla-1.5 packages built for Mandrake Club for 9.2, which are just waiting for the admin to get the permissions right on the upload server for 9.2, the 9.1 packages are in testing. I did notice the mozilla-1.5 packages up on ranger but alas without the corresponding lib files. These were uploaded temporarily (since I had to make a turn at work anyway, so I put them on a flash disk) to allow me to pull them to klama faster to I could get them to the upload server faster over the weekend (instead of uploading over dialup). I uploaded the lib packages to klama over dialup. I would prefer to wait a bit more for the MandrakeClub people to get their permissions sorted out, in order to provide more value to Club members ... You couldn't put them up and/or the spec file? I will rather remove the mozilla 1.5 packages to save my bandwidth (which we pay through the teeth for). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/lURvrJK6UGDSBKcRAocxAJ9WJXnVtQ4YTzWEMsStVYKmEW7HCACfWKVt lo4vQeV3B5a+iYFLWDmPK9s= =GAsw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
On a related note, there seems to be a major problem with the
mozilla-firebird package.
When installed, it replaces mozilla with firebird, such that mozilla
actually launches firebird, and mozilla -mail is broken ('cannot
locate /content/messenger.xul'). Furthermore, uninstalling firebird does
not fix it! Nor does re-installing mozilla.
I've experienced this in 9.1 by untarring the MozillaFirebird.tgz in
/usr/local, and in 9.2 by installing the mozilla-firebird rpm from
contrib. (And my mozilla-1.4 in both cases came from Mandrake rpms).
A workaround (to run the real 'zilla) is to add the directory containing
mozilla-bin to $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (otherwise it complains about
libmozjs.so not found) and run mozilla-bin instead of mozilla.
So firebird seems to be replacing chrome or changing environment paths
such that you cannot (easily) run the two browsers side-by-side.
--
Guy
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
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Guy McArthur wrote:
On a related note, there seems to be a major problem with the
mozilla-firebird package.
When installed, it replaces mozilla with firebird, such that mozilla
actually launches firebird, and mozilla -mail is broken ('cannot
locate /content/messenger.xul'). Furthermore, uninstalling firebird does
not fix it! Nor does re-installing mozilla.
I've experienced this in 9.1 by untarring the MozillaFirebird.tgz in
/usr/local, and in 9.2 by installing the mozilla-firebird rpm from
contrib. (And my mozilla-1.4 in both cases came from Mandrake rpms).
A workaround (to run the real 'zilla) is to add the directory containing
mozilla-bin to $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (otherwise it complains about
libmozjs.so not found) and run mozilla-bin instead of mozilla.
So firebird seems to be replacing chrome or changing environment paths
such that you cannot (easily) run the two browsers side-by-side.
I have them both installed, both on my 9.1 box at home (mozilla-1.5 that
is available in Club, and mozilla-firebird-0.7 that is in Club), and the
only issue I have is that if mozilla-firebird is *running* (probably
started after mozilla itself in most cases), then any 'mozilla' command
will use firebird. However, if it is not running, everything works fine.
Regards,
Buchan
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Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
Buchan Milne wrote: Guy McArthur wrote: On a related note, there seems to be a major problem with the mozilla-firebird package. I have them both installed, both on my 9.1 box at home (mozilla-1.5 that is available in Club, and mozilla-firebird-0.7 that is in Club), and the only issue I have is that if mozilla-firebird is *running* (probably started after mozilla itself in most cases), then any 'mozilla' command will use firebird. However, if it is not running, everything works fine. Bizarre -- that's different behavior than what I'm seeing. Maybe because I'm still on moz 1.4? -- Guy
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Thunderbird not on cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guy McArthur wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: Guy McArthur wrote: On a related note, there seems to be a major problem with the mozilla-firebird package. I have them both installed, both on my 9.1 box at home (mozilla-1.5 that is available in Club, and mozilla-firebird-0.7 that is in Club), and the only issue I have is that if mozilla-firebird is *running* (probably started after mozilla itself in most cases), then any 'mozilla' command will use firebird. However, if it is not running, everything works fine. Bizarre -- that's different behavior than what I'm seeing. Maybe because I'm still on moz 1.4? No, it does the same thing on my cooker box (which I seem to have left out ..), both now with mozilla-1.4 and firebird 0.7, and before with mozilla-1.5 and firebird 0.6.x. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/lX04rJK6UGDSBKcRAle8AKCdPWVYUg0Wl9eyeLlTGLdv4PfImgCgjBjw yCnKg/gAntOlav6Ljciecos= =2JrY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
--- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps which uses gecko.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 05:05:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. AFAIK all packages have a score that marks it importance. Devel packages generally have a lower score than application packages. Most Joe Users don't build mozilla extensions but would be sad about a missing kde screensaver or one game less on the download edition's CDs. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
--- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps which uses gecko.. Precisely. So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX MB) or ...? I know there is a space crunch but I seriously think that mozilla-* are not the items to be removed unless MDK is changing the default browser suite. This may sound a little simple but why don't MDK take every game off of CD1, 2 3 and put them all on a 4th CD = games.iso. At the very least, there will be room for mozilla-devel... (The marketing dept. might like that too.) -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 13:48, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Gtz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps which uses gecko.. Precisely. So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX MB) or ...? Since Galeon is already packaged and included in main...yes. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Gtz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps which uses gecko.. Precisely. So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX MB) or ...? Many developers like this simple games because much more work, like me. If you include game like Frozen Bubble, the game will be played by 50 of 100 users. If you include mozilla-devel, 2 of 100 users will be happy. Now compare it yourself... R.V.
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ric Johnson wrote: Precisely. So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX MB) or ...? Well, why do they need to build galeon, when it is included?? I know there is a space crunch but I seriously think that mozilla-* are not the items to be removed unless MDK is changing the default browser suite. Mozilla has never been the default browser, Konqueror and Galeon are. This may sound a little simple but why don't MDK take every game off of CD1, 2 3 and put them all on a 4th CD = games.iso. At the very least, there will be room for mozilla-devel... (The marketing dept. might like that too.) At one stage the 3rd CD was supposed to be mainly devel stuff ... anyway, my vote is for a 4th CD, for stuff that is absolutely trivial (games, themes, etc etc). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/ZbhPrJK6UGDSBKcRAqMDAKC0FCuhda3qF53QF6rSsXSmo5lJnACcCWNH eG9SxBsQ2ecXnUfe5AjDtpU= =VkPi -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
--- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 05:05:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. AFAIK all packages have a score that marks it importance. Devel packages generally have a lower score than application packages. Most Joe Users don't build mozilla extensions but would be sad about a missing kde screensaver or one game less on the download edition's CDs. -- :) Well, if Joe Users are paying for it, I suppose that is the way it should be. Problem is that Joe wants the latest browser widget too - maybe the latest Galeon - and expects somebody will build it for them. That somebody is the guy that expects mozilla-devel to be readily available... It seems like there should be a better solution than to cut mozilla-devel from the download release since it is absolutely essential for building any of the gecko based applications. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
--- Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ric Johnson wrote: Precisely. So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX MB) or ...? Well, why do they need to build galeon, when it is included?? That's a joke, right? ( the length of the reasons is prohibitive and content inflamatory ) I know there is a space crunch but I seriously think that mozilla-* are not the items to be removed unless MDK is changing the default browser suite. Mozilla has never been the default browser, Konqueror and Galeon are. Sorry, BM, but you must not have been lurking around cooker/MDK long enuf 'cause mozilla was made the default browser when Netscape was dropped due (primarily) to the licensing/proprietary problems of including it in a *Free* distro. Also, if you took the time to look at Xsession file (where $BROWSER and $HELP_BROWSER get defined) you will see that (1) mozilla is at top of the list and (2) galeon konqueror are not even in the list. (oddly, netscape is _still_ in it - go figure :) This may sound a little simple but why don't MDK take every game off of CD1, 2 3 and put them all on a 4th CD = games.iso. At the very least, there will be room for mozilla-devel... (The marketing dept. might like that too.) At one stage the 3rd CD was supposed to be mainly devel stuff ... It is still is supposed to be AFAIK but it has not yet quite got organized that way for multiple, reasonably valid reasons. I think that it would be easier to make the 3rd (or 4th A/R) ISO an 'entertainment' CD consisting of all games their development rpms, the 'non-default' audio and video aps, the extra themes icons that are packaged as 'extras' , and whatever else MDK decides is entertainment(currently most are in the MDK Group called Amusement). If there is too much empty space on the CD-ISO, it could also possibly contain any *new* experimental aps that work enuf to be part of the distro but are still in the development stage that keeps them from being really usable on daily basis(i would personally put epiphany, firebird and dillo in that category). It could also, maybe, include the aps that have rpms available, should have made it but could not be tested. That, in itself, would allow for last minute inclusions for the distro of items that did not make the freeze cutoff - OOo, XFce4, etc... Years back, there were not enuf games and what not to make a decently sized CD. I *think* there would be now. At the very least, it would allow the other 2 or 3 CD's to contain all the core *-devel so that developers who might *contribute* to MDK and/or Linux would not be inconvenienced. Joe USer has more time than Joe Developer to look for stuff. anyway, my vote is for a 4th CD, for stuff that is absolutely trivial (games, themes, etc etc). Then do it. :) IOW, somebody/developer with MDK just needs to sit down, reorganize the contents and present the results to MDK mgmnt. An outsider cannot do that. Regards, Buchan = [Signature] My email box is full of spam and signatures. Honestly, I have email that are 3/4 signatures and 1/4 content. A signature is neither a resume nor is it a place for you to include your personal philosphy about life in general. If you are one of those who do that, please stop sending me yours. ONE line is enough! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
On Monday 15 September 2003 23:18, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 05:05:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. AFAIK all packages have a score that marks it importance. Devel packages generally have a lower score than application packages. Most Joe Users don't build mozilla extensions but would be sad about a missing kde screensaver or one game less on the download edition's CDs. -- :) Well, if Joe Users are paying for it, I suppose that is the way it should be. Problem is that Joe wants the latest browser widget too - maybe the latest Galeon - and expects somebody will build it for them. That somebody is the guy that expects mozilla-devel to be readily available... It seems like there should be a better solution than to cut mozilla-devel from the download release since it is absolutely essential for building any of the gecko based applications. it's still available from all mirrors, joe user probably won't need the -devel package, nor know how to fetch packages from the mirrors, but that somebody guy is gonna build it, he probably knows exactly what package he needs and how to fetch it from the mirrors.. -- Regards, Per Øyvind Karlsen Sintrax Solutions http://www.sintrax.net - +47 41681061 GPG Key: http://sintrax.net/~hawkeye/key.asc
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ric Johnson wrote: Well, if Joe Users are paying for it, I suppose that is the way it should be. Problem is that Joe wants the latest browser widget too - maybe the latest Galeon - and expects somebody will build it for them. That somebody is the guy that expects mozilla-devel to be readily available... Well, take a look on MandrakeClub, we have Mozilla-1.4, galeon rebuilt for mozilla-1.4 and epiphany too, which were all available within about 3 days of the source release of 1.4 ... It seems like there should be a better solution than to cut mozilla-devel from the download release since it is absolutely essential for building any of the gecko based applications. Most of which are provided (I meant to build wxMozilla but didn't get to it ...). Anyway, if 1% of the users (and that's optimistic) are going to be building and hosting mozilla-related packages, I am sure they can download the 3MB -devel package. Instead of the -devel package, maybe there are other *real* applications that users, who have no idea how to compile gecko apps, will be able to use. Of course, mozilla is one of those packages that gets out-of-date pretty quickly, so in 3 weeks time you aren't going to want the -devel package from 1.4 any more ... Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/ZjEzrJK6UGDSBKcRAissAJ4sgpZZJe/hSNsJ/k7qf9cTh624HgCfWtc5 /ObOubk1rxv008hsW2qGZJo= =mZau -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
--- Radek Vybiral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:05:01 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote: --- Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. Mozilla-devel is useless for most people, unless you want to build apps which uses gecko.. Precisely. So those who would build, e.g., galeon, get penalized in favor of those who want to play frozen bubble(SEVEN MB) or powermanga(SIX MB) or ...? Many developers like this simple games because much more work, like me. If you include game like Frozen Bubble, the game will be played by 50 of 100 users. If you include mozilla-devel, 2 of 100 users will be happy. Now compare it yourself... R.V. There are things in life that are important and things that are not. Generally speaking, it is the 1 or 2 % of the population that gets the 98 or 99% of the work done. Those are the people that should not be inconvenienced as they are very busy and do not generally have time to play games. However, I did not say to REmove the games because even the work-a-holic needs to take a break now then. I suggested to Move them -but- if it comes down to including trivia or real devel programs, I would vote for removing the trivia because the individuals that have the time to play the games also have the time to find them. BTW, I have never played frozen bubble and will *never* run freeciv-server... I use MS Windows for games as that is its forte and also because rebooting forces me to stop 'working' for a while. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
On Mon Sep 15 14:19 -0700, Ric Johnson wrote: Well, why do they need to build galeon, when it is included?? That's a joke, right? No, it's a legitimate point. ( the length of the reasons is prohibitive and content inflamatory ) Post it... we can take it... or is it because you can't come up with a reason? Mozilla has never been the default browser, Konqueror and Galeon are. Sorry, BM, but you must not have been lurking around cooker/MDK long enuf How long have you been lurking around cooker/MDK? I've been on this list for 18 months now and Buchan predates me. I can't recall ever seeing a post from you before this thread. You may want to try researching what you say, it makes you look like slightly less of an idiot (though I'm not sure how much that would help you). [Signature] My email box is full of spam and signatures. Honestly, I have email that are 3/4 signatures and 1/4 content. A signature is neither a resume nor is it a place for you to include your personal philosphy about life in general. If you are one of those who do that, please stop sending me yours. ONE line is enough! While my signature may be long, at least it adheres to 80 characters per line. Quick question: how old are you, Ric? From your spelling and attitude, I'm setting the Over/Under at 13 and taking the Under. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take due notice and govern yourselves accordingly. Currently playing: Rush - Permanent Waves - Natural Science Linux 2.4.22-0.4mdk 17:45:00 up 6 days, 5:11, 2 users, load average: 0.39, 0.24, 0.18
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 22:33, Ric Johnson wrote: Generally speaking, it is the 1 or 2 % of the population that gets the 98 or 99% of the work done. Those are the people that Possibly. However, Mandrakesoft make more money selling to 98% of people than selling to 2% of people... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
--- Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ric Johnson wrote: Well, if Joe Users are paying for it, I suppose that is the way it should be. Problem is that Joe wants the latest browser widget too - maybe the latest Galeon - and expects somebody will build it for them. That somebody is the guy that expects mozilla-devel to be readily available... Well, take a look on MandrakeClub, we have Mozilla-1.4, galeon rebuilt for mozilla-1.4 and epiphany too, which were all available within about 3 days of the source release of 1.4 ... It seems like there should be a better solution than to cut mozilla-devel from the download release since it is absolutely essential for building any of the gecko based applications. Most of which are provided (I meant to build wxMozilla but didn't get to it ...). Anyway, if 1% of the users (and that's optimistic) are going to be building and hosting mozilla-related packages, I am sure they can download the 3MB -devel package. Instead of the -devel package, maybe there are other *real* applications that users, who have no idea how to compile gecko apps, will be able to use. Of course, mozilla is one of those packages that gets out-of-date pretty quickly, so in 3 weeks time you aren't going to want the -devel package from 1.4 any more ... Well, that's a good point since 1.5 is very close to release. :) All in all, thanks for your input. :) I have devoted enuf time to this since, obviously, MDK has no intention of including moz devel for the release. That's too bad as it will just make devel with MDK just a little bit harder... Regards, Buchan Regards to you too. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla (was: Portage for Mandrake?)
On Thursday 14 August 2003 05:11, Curtis Hildebrand wrote: No. Mozilla and Galeon don't work for me either. I'll attach the last lines from a mozilla strace. This is on a fresh cooker install from yesterday. /curtis For me galeon works. Do you have the no XBL binding for browser bug with mozilla or is it something else. See Bug 4168 for more info
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-firebirde gives errors when normal userstarts it.
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:28, Kim Schulz wrote: hi I just installed firebird 0.6.1 but when I start it, then I get this error: $ mozilla-firebird INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? System error?:: Success A friend told me that it is because of an sun java plugin error? does anyone know how to fix this? It seems to run fine here. $ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1/plugins/ total 21 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 73 Aug 10 14:57 libjavaplugin_oji.so - ../../../java/j2sdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root20176 Jul 30 05:21 libnullplugin.so* -- _ _ _ _ | |_| | |_/ | | / / -_) | / / | |_\_\___|_|_\_\_| @ sbcglobal.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla (was: Portage for Mandrake?)
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 15:24, andre wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2003 00:23, Jay DeKing wrote: Likewise, I haven't had any serious problems with Mozilla, other than the occasional lack of a flashing cursor within whatever input box happens to be focused. When that happens, clicking the mouse a few times on the input box restores the cursor. Am i the only own for who doesn't mozilla doesn't work? No. Mozilla and Galeon don't work for me either. I'll attach the last lines from a mozilla strace. This is on a fresh cooker install from yesterday. /curtis open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/chrome/chrome.rdf, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0666) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/chrome/chrome.rdf, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0664) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/chrome/chrome.rdf, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0666) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/chrome/chrome.rdf, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0664) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) write(7, 8, 1)= 1 kill(9286, SIGRTMIN)= 0 write(9, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@\1\0\0..., 148) = 148 kill(9287, SIGRTMIN)= 0 write(9, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]..., 148) = 148 read(4, 0xb487, 1) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) close(4)= 0 close(5)= 0 close(6)= 0 close(7)= 0 write(9, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@\300\351..., 148) = 148 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [RTMIN], 8) = 0 rt_sigsuspend([] unfinished ... --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) --- ... rt_sigsuspend resumed ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) sigreturn() = ? (mask now [RTMIN]) waitpid(9285, NULL, __WCLONE) = 9285 exit_group(1) = ?
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla (was: Portage for Mandrake?)
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 00:23, Jay DeKing wrote: Likewise, I haven't had any serious problems with Mozilla, other than the occasional lack of a flashing cursor within whatever input box happens to be focused. When that happens, clicking the mouse a few times on the input box restores the cursor. Am i the only own for who doesn't mozilla doesn't work?
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla (was: Portage for Mandrake?)
On Sunday 10 August 2003 7:08 am, Buchan Milne honored me with this communique: On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, andre wrote: On Saturday 09 August 2003 17:20, Buchan Milne wrote: I wanted to reply to this one earlier, but gave up after mozilla crashed on the half-finished mail .. You got mozilla working. That is more than most It's been working fine since I started running cooker, although some 1.3.x versions weren't too stable, and the problem with keyboard input is worse now again for some reason (text goes to inactive window for example). Otherwise it works fine for me, mostly (had maybe two crashes since we started using 1.4, and it's open on my cooker box for over 9 hours each day of the week). Regards, Buchan Likewise, I haven't had any serious problems with Mozilla, other than the occasional lack of a flashing cursor within whatever input box happens to be focused. When that happens, clicking the mouse a few times on the input box restores the cursor. -- Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-firebirde gives errors when normal user starts it.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:01:24 -0700 Quel Qun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:28, Kim Schulz wrote: hi I just installed firebird 0.6.1 but when I start it, then I get this error: $ mozilla-firebird INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? System error?:: Success A friend told me that it is because of an sun java plugin error? does anyone know how to fix this? It seems to run fine here. $ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1/plugins/ total 21 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 73 Aug 10 14:57 libjavaplugin_oji.so - ../../../java/j2sdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oj i.so*-rwxr-xr-x1 root root20176 Jul 30 05:21 libnullplugin.so* it is not because of plugins in the mozilla-firebird dir, but in the mozilla or phoenix dirs apperently.
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-composer
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:05:34 -0400 Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally gave up because Mozilla Composer does everything this does and more. btw, does mozilla-composer work for you? I get an empty window and navigator doesn't even start but complains about no xbl binding for browser. I didn't follow the discussion on cooker but I think there's been no mention of a cause/fix yet. I just don't know where to start looking. Interestingly, the error window looks remarkably like a gtk window. I moved ~/.mozilla away and rebuilt moz databases but that doesn't help. Mark
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-composer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Draheim wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:05:34 -0400 Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally gave up because Mozilla Composer does everything this does and more. btw, does mozilla-composer work for you? I get an empty window and navigator doesn't even start but complains about no xbl binding for browser. I didn't follow the discussion on cooker but I think there's been no mention of a cause/fix yet. I just don't know where to start looking. Interestingly, the error window looks remarkably like a gtk window. I moved ~/.mozilla away and rebuilt moz databases but that doesn't help. Works for me, as does the rest of mozilla that I use: $ rpm -qa 'mozilla*' mozilla-enigmail-1.4-2mdk mozilla-mail-1.4-2mdk mozilla-1.4-2mdk mozilla-spellchecker-1.4-2mdk mozilla-firebird-0.6-0.2mdk mozilla-enigmime-1.4-2mdk Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/HAOYrJK6UGDSBKcRAiwgAKDC2ViP5H9KLEjl5sqn+B74tU8aPACfYuqB LWFBd7StBArShC3EvGk0pAA= =XvF4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-composer
On 2003.07.21 10:55, Mark Draheim wrote: btw, does mozilla-composer work for you? I get an empty window and navigator doesn't even start but complains about no xbl binding for browser. I have never seen that problem, and I use composer quite a bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] austin]$ rpm -qa | grep 'mozilla' mozilla-irc-1.4-2mdk mozilla-1.4-2mdk Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-composer
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2003, 16:55:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Mark Draheim: btw, does mozilla-composer work for you? I get an empty window and navigator doesn't even start but complains about no xbl binding for browser. I didn't follow the discussion on cooker but I think there's been no mention of a cause/fix yet. I just don't know where to start looking. Interestingly, the error window looks remarkably like a gtk window. I moved ~/.mozilla away and rebuilt moz databases but that doesn't help. I've reported it, if you have anything to add, go to bugzilla: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4168 CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-composer
Mark Draheim wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:05:34 -0400 Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, does mozilla-composer work for you? I get an empty window and navigator doesn't even start but complains about no xbl binding for browser. I didn't follow the discussion on cooker but I think there's been no mention of a cause/fix yet. I just don't know where to start looking. Interestingly, the error window looks remarkably like a gtk window. I moved ~/.mozilla away and rebuilt moz databases but that doesn't help. Mozilla-1.4-2mdk does seem to work fine here (including the usual 3rd party plugins). It is however a nearly standard Bamboo installation with the RPMS rebuilt on either default or -O3 optimisations. YMMV.
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-composer
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:55:37 +0200, Mark Draheim wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:05:34 -0400 Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally gave up because Mozilla Composer does everything this does and more. btw, does mozilla-composer work for you? I get an empty window and navigator doesn't even start but complains about no xbl binding for browser. I didn't follow the discussion on cooker but I think there's been no mention of a cause/fix yet. I just don't know where to start looking. Interestingly, the error window looks remarkably like a gtk window. I moved ~/.mozilla away and rebuilt moz databases but that doesn't help. Which locale are you using ? Do you have mozilla-firebird installed by any chance ? Please, add your comments to http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4168 -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla language packs [was: Is Fred Crozat on holiday?]
En/na Buchan Milne ha escrit: Anyway, I ask since Mozilla 1.4 is quite a popular request on the Club, and I have just built packages which I will be uploading soon (once I have an updated galeon). I have put my spec file up: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla.spec Speaking of mozilla, I think that language files should be packaged separately (both source and noarch rpms), so it's easier to upgrade to a revised language pack or add a new one. For example, 9.1 came with no translations (I packaged spanish, catalan and french so it's not difficult to do), mozilla in updates comes with translations but not all of them (catalan is missing), and this one apparently has translations disabled (unsurprising, since there's almost no language pack ready for 1.4). Wouldn't it be better to just build a language pack rpm (build time less than 10 seconds) instead of rebuilding mozilla as a whole? Bye -- Que les importa a las viudas, a los huérfanos, a los desvalidos si las masacres se hacen en nombre del totalitarismo o en el sagrado nombre de la libertad y la democracia. Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.4 package?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kim Schulz wrote: hi The new mozilla 1.4 is out (30/6-2003) and it has alot of nice bugfixes (especially in the JS engine). Is anyone working on a new package of this? (preferebly with Xft) Packages for 9.1 available on Club. Spec file available (install current cooker SRPM, then 'rpm -ba mozilla.spec' on my spec file: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla.spec Fred said he would get to it after he sorts some other stuff out. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/AzEPrJK6UGDSBKcRAptcAJ9jziWpp42iI1l/CThKfB4E4EmvFQCgh4US 4SoeubU8CB1MSPNtHnK+nB4= =PyMH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.4 package?
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 21:22:56 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kim Schulz wrote: hi The new mozilla 1.4 is out (30/6-2003) and it has alot of nice bugfixes(especially in the JS engine). Is anyone working on a new package of this? (preferebly with Xft) Packages for 9.1 available on Club. Spec file available (install current cooker SRPM, then 'rpm -ba mozilla.spec' on my spec file: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla.spec Fred said he would get to it after he sorts some other stuff out. but the current SRPM is the beta as far as I can tell? do you have a link to the package itself ? -- Navn : Kim Schulz | *** System shutdown message from root Email : kim @ schulz.dk | *** System going down in 60 seconds WWW : www.schulz.dk |
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.4 package?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kim Schulz wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 21:22:56 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla.spec Fred said he would get to it after he sorts some other stuff out. but the current SRPM is the beta as far as I can tell? Sorry, complete instructions: 1)Install current cooker SRPM 2)Download source tar/bz2 release from mozilla.org 3)rpm -ba mozilla.spec obtained from link above. do you have a link to the package itself ? Sorry, we just started paying for all bandwidth we use at pretty horrendous rates. I am not prepared to host more large packages on my site (since Mandrake rpm's currently take up close to half our outgoing traffic). If you're a club member, you can get the SRPM there, and it will be on the mirrors as soon as I am happy enough people have tested it to change it to done. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/A0FOrJK6UGDSBKcRAgFLAJ987EupIfL9Hdl00qVRT1bHsU+8wQCfS+xq WuGijMFjiTzuDXP9JORNVUk= =tZsV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.4 package?
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:32:14 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kim Schulz wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 21:22:56 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla.spec Fred said he would get to it after he sorts some other stuff out. but the current SRPM is the beta as far as I can tell? Sorry, complete instructions: 1)Install current cooker SRPM 2)Download source tar/bz2 release from mozilla.org 3)rpm -ba mozilla.spec obtained from link above. ahh that helped except for this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPECS]# rpm -ba mozilla.spec error: File /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/enigmail-0.76.1.tar.bz2: No such file or directory -- Navn : Kim Schulz | QOTD: I used to jog, but the ice kept Email : kim @ schulz.dk | bouncing out of my glass. WWW : www.schulz.dk |
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.4 package?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kim Schulz wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:32:14 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, complete instructions: 1)Install current cooker SRPM 2)Download source tar/bz2 release from mozilla.org 3)rpm -ba mozilla.spec obtained from link above. ahh that helped except for this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPECS]# rpm -ba mozilla.spec error: File /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/enigmail-0.76.1.tar.bz2: No such file or directory Sorry, forgot about that one: 2a)Download http://enigmail.mozdev.org/dload/src/enigmail-0.76.1.tar.gz then 'bzme enigmail-0.76.1.tar.gz' and copy resulting tar.bz2 into `rpm - --eval %_sourcedir`. Regards, Buchan P.S. Interesting hostname ;-) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/A035rJK6UGDSBKcRApq9AJ9+oqT5MjgRJh++Onma/oWJuIZ5sACgu1wZ c9VuwFcmkwawI9f8fopSaUU= =yZQ9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.4 package?
Buchan Milne wrote: Sorry, complete instructions: 1)Install current cooker SRPM 2)Download source tar/bz2 release from mozilla.org 3)rpm -ba mozilla.spec obtained from link above. Don't forget you also need the update enigmail-0.76.1 David
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.4 package?
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 23:20:47 +0200 Kim Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:32:14 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kim Schulz wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 21:22:56 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla.spec Fred said he would get to it after he sorts some other stuff out. but the current SRPM is the beta as far as I can tell? Sorry, complete instructions: 1)Install current cooker SRPM 2)Download source tar/bz2 release from mozilla.org 3)rpm -ba mozilla.spec obtained from link above. ahh that helped except for this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPECS]# rpm -ba mozilla.spec error: File /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/enigmail-0.76.1.tar.bz2: No such file or directory found it on the mozdev site, but it turns out that building mozilla takes up more that 1gb og hd space + alot of ram. Maybe I should just wait :o) -- Navn : Kim Schulz | Since a politician never believes what he Email : kim @ schulz.dk | says, he is surprised when others believe WWW : www.schulz.dk | him. -- Charles DeGaulle
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla language packs [was: Is Fred Crozat on holiday?]
Le Wed, 02 Jul 2003 19:41:09 +0200, Luca Olivetti a écrit : This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --enig6CAE82E83C3675BFC1939A02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit En/na Buchan Milne ha escrit: Anyway, I ask since Mozilla 1.4 is quite a popular request on the Club, and I have just built packages which I will be uploading soon (once I have an updated galeon). I have put my spec file up: http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/cooker/mozilla.spec Speaking of mozilla, I think that language files should be packaged separately (both source and noarch rpms), so it's easier to upgrade to a revised language pack or add a new one. For example, 9.1 came with no translations (I packaged spanish, catalan and french so it's not difficult to do), mozilla in updates comes with translations but not all of them (catalan is missing), and this one apparently has translations disabled (unsurprising, since there's almost no language pack ready for 1.4). Wouldn't it be better to just build a language pack rpm (build time less than 10 seconds) instead of rebuilding mozilla as a whole? No, I don't want the same kind of mess as kde-i18n-* stuff.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] mozilla mandrake links
Thibaut Fernagut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why can't I delete the mandrake links in mozilla . You know , the ones that are under the browser bar. Deleting is not possible and I don't like it. I know lot's of users wont like it. -talked about it on irc- Strange, I can. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla roadmap and Cooker
On 04.06, Andi Payn wrote: On Saturday 05 April 2003 15:29, J.A. Magallon wrote: it looks like Mozilla application is dead. Now we will have a Mozilla-suite, split in several apps: No no no, the whole point is to get _away from_ the Mozilla-suite idea, not to move toward it! There will still be something that you can download as an application suite if you want, but it'll be a collection of separate, decoupled applications and extensions that can just as easily be used independently. Yup, perhaps the term 'suit' was not so well chosen, but that is what I also understood, several separate apps. - Mozilla browser is dead. They will switch to Phoenix (or whatever is it named after the copyrights war the seem to be inside...) The existing default Mozilla browser (Seamonkey, aka /usr/bin/mozilla) is not dead. At the end of November, when the stable 1.6 release is due, it will be dead; until then, it's not. Phoenix, meanwhile, is still not done. Quoting the above reference: 1. Switch Mozilla's default browser component from the XPFE-based Navigator to the standalone Phoenix browser. 3. ... The major changes after 1.4 involve switching to Phoenix and Thunderbird ... So, as I understant it, 1.4 will be the last monolithic release, and then the 1.5 branch will begin the big rework. Distributors can choose to maintain 1.4 themselves. You can, of course, just download Phoenix right now and use it alongside/instead of Mozilla. But you're probably better off using Galeon or Konqueror. Not sure if you take speed into account. Right now, with ties me to Galeon is just the GTK look. - Mozilla mailer is dead. Use Minotaur. A beta build is available. Minotaur is not ready yet. Use Mozilla mailer. A beta Minotaur build is nowhere near ready. An experimental build of Minotaur is available. To quote the download page, Please not that Minotaur is currently not even alpha quality software. Meanwhile, the existing mailer is getting upgrades for 1.4, and possibly for 1.5. You may want to play with Minotaur (to help development, or just to get an idea of what changes are in store for the future), but you definitely don't want to use it as your mail agent. Yup. I only tried to tell that it would be interesting to try to integrate all this packages (ala hack-), to face the problems... You're probably better off with Kmail or Evolution or any of the thousand other mail agents out there. - All they will build against GRE. Mozilla, Phoenix, Minotaur, and many other apps already build against Gecko. All of them build against _its own copy of gecko_, not against a shared one and only installed in the system. That is the big deal. - And java now is gcc-3 safe... Which is relevant how? Everything can be built with gcc3. Now everything that needs java is built with 2.96 (mozilla, galeon, etc... BTW, how does work the nautilus - galeon-plug-ing - gecko chain ??) Do you see feasible to (;)): - include GRE in cooker Meaning the Gecko engine? It's already in cooker--and 9.1 and 9.0--as part of the mozilla package. If you mean splitting mozilla into, e.g., mozilla, libgecko, and libgecko-devel, that's not a bad idea, but it's a lot of work--work that will have to be redone for 1.4 and 1.5 and possibly the minor upgrades along the way before being thrown out for 1.6. It's probably not worth it. Just for 1.4. And sure 1.5 will be out before next mdk release (theoretically, 13 Aug). - build phoenix against it (gcc3) What else could you build Phoenix against besides Gecko? Se above, against the _shared_ gecko. If you want a Phoenix package for Mandrake, there are a lot of issues to consider. Phoenix hasn't been designed for system-wide installation; it works much better if you just unpack the tarball into your home directory and run it from there. Since Phoenix relies so much on letting users updating its chrome directory (to install extensions or themes, for example), a shared installation pretty much means that only root can configure it. Hopefully some future version will pop up a su wrapper to let anyone install a new extension, separate out installing the extension from enabling it, etc. Anyone who can't handle installing Phoenix without an RPM probably won't get much use out of it yet. I use the nightly builds for Phoenix, and the install themes on ~/.phoenix. System wide files are unterred in /usr/lib/phoneix, and I just added a symlink to the binary from /usr/bin. - build galeon against it (and so, nautilus...) Again, what would Galeon be built against besides Gecko? Why do you think the galeon package requires the mozilla package? - include some other projects as epiphany ;) Epiphany is yet another Gtk-native browser wrapped around Gecko, like Galeon and Skipstone, but with tighter GNOME integration (it's sort of the exact opposite of the
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla roadmap and Cooker
On Saturday 05 April 2003 15:29, J.A. Magallon wrote: it looks like Mozilla application is dead. Now we will have a Mozilla-suite, split in several apps: No no no, the whole point is to get _away from_ the Mozilla-suite idea, not to move toward it! There will still be something that you can download as an application suite if you want, but it'll be a collection of separate, decoupled applications and extensions that can just as easily be used independently. - Mozilla browser is dead. They will switch to Phoenix (or whatever is it named after the copyrights war the seem to be inside...) The existing default Mozilla browser (Seamonkey, aka /usr/bin/mozilla) is not dead. At the end of November, when the stable 1.6 release is due, it will be dead; until then, it's not. Phoenix, meanwhile, is still not done. You can, of course, just download Phoenix right now and use it alongside/instead of Mozilla. But you're probably better off using Galeon or Konqueror. - Mozilla mailer is dead. Use Minotaur. A beta build is available. Minotaur is not ready yet. Use Mozilla mailer. A beta Minotaur build is nowhere near ready. An experimental build of Minotaur is available. To quote the download page, Please not that Minotaur is currently not even alpha quality software. Meanwhile, the existing mailer is getting upgrades for 1.4, and possibly for 1.5. You may want to play with Minotaur (to help development, or just to get an idea of what changes are in store for the future), but you definitely don't want to use it as your mail agent. You're probably better off with Kmail or Evolution or any of the thousand other mail agents out there. - All they will build against GRE. Mozilla, Phoenix, Minotaur, and many other apps already build against Gecko. - And java now is gcc-3 safe... Which is relevant how? Do you see feasible to (;)): - include GRE in cooker Meaning the Gecko engine? It's already in cooker--and 9.1 and 9.0--as part of the mozilla package. If you mean splitting mozilla into, e.g., mozilla, libgecko, and libgecko-devel, that's not a bad idea, but it's a lot of work--work that will have to be redone for 1.4 and 1.5 and possibly the minor upgrades along the way before being thrown out for 1.6. It's probably not worth it. If you instead mean that some to-be-determined future version of Gecko with its interfaces refactored in some to-be-determined future way should be included in cooker--well, it's pretty hard to include something that doesn't exist. - build phoenix against it (gcc3) What else could you build Phoenix against besides Gecko? If you want a Phoenix package for Mandrake, there are a lot of issues to consider. Phoenix hasn't been designed for system-wide installation; it works much better if you just unpack the tarball into your home directory and run it from there. Since Phoenix relies so much on letting users updating its chrome directory (to install extensions or themes, for example), a shared installation pretty much means that only root can configure it. Hopefully some future version will pop up a su wrapper to let anyone install a new extension, separate out installing the extension from enabling it, etc. Anyone who can't handle installing Phoenix without an RPM probably won't get much use out of it yet. - build galeon against it (and so, nautilus...) Again, what would Galeon be built against besides Gecko? Why do you think the galeon package requires the mozilla package? - include some other projects as epiphany ;) Epiphany is yet another Gtk-native browser wrapped around Gecko, like Galeon and Skipstone, but with tighter GNOME integration (it's sort of the exact opposite of the everything-is-cross-platform Phoenix). It's nowhere near complete, and I suspect that anyone who can't install it from source won't have much reason to play with it yet. I know it is a very very big deal, but you could take it as your 'web-browsing-in-mandrake roadmap'... Considering that Mandrake's default desktop is KDE and their default browser is Konqueror, I suspect that they won't go for any roadmap that focuses on Galeon and Epiphany Obviously, Mandrake will have to take the future of Mozilla into account, but they can do that just by tracking future versions of Mozilla, Galeon, and other projects, just as they've done all along.
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.2.1-4mdk rebuild
Am Freitag, 28. März 2003, 20:29:45 Uhr MET, schrieb John Platts: I have rebuilt Mozilla-1.2.1-4mdk from a MandrakeCooker RPM found with a search at rpmfind.net. I configured it to compile with gcc-3.2 and g++-3.2 and it did compile and run smoothly. It worked with the Macromedia Flash Player and the Java Plug-in. Please ensure that the Mandrake 9.1 Mozilla release is compiled with gcc-3.2 and g++-3.2. The mozilla in Mandrake 9.1 was compiled with gcc 2.96. Which Java plugin have you tried, SUN's or the blackdown version? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mozilla rendering problem with arial
On Wed 19 Mar 2003 13:52, Pascal posted as excerpted below: Any other cooker fellow who cannot read this page under mozilla ? http://static.ir.dgi.minefi.gouv.fr/public/faq/site/quiEstConcerne.html (french iso8859-1 coding) Well, it looks fine here in both Konqueror and Mozilla, but as I don't read French, I can't actually /read/ it... Well... that is I can't until I hit the Babelfish button in Konqueror.. Then I can. Babelfish does pretty good with it too, it looks like. I'm surprised. It did far better on this than on some of the other pages I've attempted to translate. I'm not sure if that's because it does better French to English, say, than German to English, or whether it's the formal wording used on this page, seeing as it's a tax FAQ page, as compared to the others, which were normally news articles and probably not quite as formal, altho not terribly informal, either. -- Duncan They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] mozilla rendering problem with arial
me ! et franchement c'est bien dommage . lol Any other cooker fellow who cannot read this page under mozilla ? http://static.ir.dgi.minefi.gouv.fr/public/faq/site/quiEstConcerne.html (french iso8859-1 coding)
Re: [Cooker] mozilla rendering problem with arial
me ! et franchement c'est bien dommage . lol Any other cooker fellow who cannot read this page under mozilla ? http://static.ir.dgi.minefi.gouv.fr/public/faq/site/quiEstConcerne.html (french iso8859-1 coding)
Re: [Cooker] mozilla rendering problem with arial
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:52:50 +0100 Pascal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any other cooker fellow who cannot read this page under mozilla ? My french is too rusty to really be able to read it but it did display in mozilla properly for me. Charles -- Man's unique agony as a species consists in his perpetual conflict between the desire to stand out and the need to blend in. -- Sydney J. Harris - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] mozilla rendering problem with arial
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Works for me. Jan On Wednesday 19 March 2003 21:52, Pascal wrote: Any other cooker fellow who cannot read this page under mozilla ? http://static.ir.dgi.minefi.gouv.fr/public/faq/site/quiEstConcerne.html (french iso8859-1 coding) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+eOH0n11XseNj94gRAthlAKCk3AdhgX3GB1WYL6qVNBHbu3SxPQCdE6HM L2XqTOcvixNmCJO/x3G/PbU= =XX4P -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] mozilla rendering problem with arial
Le mer 19/03/2003 à 15:52, Pascal a écrit : Any other cooker fellow who cannot read this page under mozilla ? http://static.ir.dgi.minefi.gouv.fr/public/faq/site/quiEstConcerne.html (french iso8859-1 coding) I can read it without problems. I am running 9.1 pre-final. Jean-Michel
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 is out!
On Thursday 13 March 2003 23:53, John Keller wrote: Crispin Boylan wrote: hi the build in cooker is 0.2mdk - this is not an RPM of the final mozilla 1.3 but one of the candidate builds isnt it? Cheers cris. Oops. I think you're right. I had seen the appearance of a few 1.3final builds, then packages passed into the plain 1.3 numbering. I assumed it was the final release, but looking at the announcement archives it appears to be the RC from last Friday (28 Feb). Small problem with current 1.3 in Cooker. Ctrl+Shift+C does not mark all message as read; selecting from the menu does. -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member.
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 is out!
Matthias wrote: subject says all. :) greets, matthias. Been available from the cooker for a few days. It's even gone through two Mandrake revisions since the first 1.3 final version made it to RPM. But nice try :)
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 is out!
John Keller wrote: Matthias wrote: subject says all. :) greets, matthias. Been available from the cooker for a few days. It's even gone through two Mandrake revisions since the first 1.3 final version made it to RPM. But nice try :) hi the build in cooker is 0.2mdk - this is not an RPM of the final mozilla 1.3 but one of the candidate builds isnt it? Cheers cris.
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 is out!
Crispin Boylan wrote: hi the build in cooker is 0.2mdk - this is not an RPM of the final mozilla 1.3 but one of the candidate builds isnt it? Cheers cris. Oops. I think you're right. I had seen the appearance of a few 1.3final builds, then packages passed into the plain 1.3 numbering. I assumed it was the final release, but looking at the announcement archives it appears to be the RC from last Friday (28 Feb).
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 is out!
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:53:19 +0100 John Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops. I think you're right. I had seen the appearance of a few 1.3final builds, then packages passed into the plain 1.3 numbering. I assumed it was the final release, but looking at the announcement archives it appears to be the RC from last Friday (28 Feb). Current is the final. Name: mozilla Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 0.final.20030228.2mdk Build Date: Tue Mar 4 15:25:43 2003 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: hp6.mandrakesoft.com Group : Networking/WWWSource RPM: (none) Size: 31737993 License: MPL Packager: Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com URL : http://www.mozilla.org Summary : Mozilla, open-source web browser Description : Mozilla is an open-source web browser, designed for standards compliance, performance and portability. --=-=-= * Tue Mar 04 2003 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 0:1.3-0.final.20020228.2mdk Charles -- Paul's Law: In America, it's not how much an item costs, it's how much you save. - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 is out!
John Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crispin Boylan wrote: the build in cooker is 0.2mdk - this is not an RPM of the final mozilla 1.3 but one of the candidate builds isnt it? Oops. I think you're right. I had seen the appearance of a few 1.3final builds, then packages passed into the plain 1.3 numbering. I assumed it was the final release, but looking at the announcement archives it appears to be the RC from last Friday (28 Feb). You guys pay way too much attention the only thing that is visible to you. The version number. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 problems
Merçi beaocoup Pascal, Maintenant functione três bien ¡Pardon par ma mauveause français.! El Domingo, 2 de Marzo de 2003 02:52, Pascal escribió: Le Samedi 1 Mars 2003 19:52, Francisco a écrit : It seems that after the update to mozilla 1.3 in rc1 ShowkwaveFlass.class is not runing anymore, in /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-1.3/plugins/ is a broken link. I have used de FlasPlayer rpm from Mandrake club. Do I need other? Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) try to re run the flasplayer rpm installation now with --force option it will re register flash with the new mozilla. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain)
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 problems
Le Dimanche 2 Mars 2003 17:07, Francisco a écrit : Merçi beaocoup Pascal, Maintenant functione três bien ¡Pardon par ma mauveause français.! de rien Francisco :) El Domingo, 2 de Marzo de 2003 02:52, Pascal escribió: Le Samedi 1 Mars 2003 19:52, Francisco a écrit : It seems that after the update to mozilla 1.3 in rc1 ShowkwaveFlass.class is not runing anymore, in /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-1.3/plugins/ is a broken link. I have used de FlasPlayer rpm from Mandrake club. Do I need other? Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) try to re run the flasplayer rpm installation now with --force option it will re register flash with the new mozilla. -- Pascal __ Running 1 day, 5:09, 6 users, load average: 2.86, 1.98, 1.45 (gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-2mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.21pre4-10mdkenterprise
Re: [Cooker] mozilla problems...
scott wrote:
Every since I updated my laptop to cooker a couple of days ago, I've been
having a rather odd problem in Mozilla. This happens with
mozilla-1.3-0.final.20030228.1mdk. When I try to type something in the
address bar, it takes 10-30 seconds before it will actually show what I type.
This, so far as I can tell, only happens the first time you use mozilla and
type something in the address bar.
I've look around on the list and no one else seems to be having the problem,
but if anyone else notices it and can help, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Scott
I noticed a freeze of the mozilla interface on cooker a couple of days
ago right after starting it and trying to type in a text box. I thought
it might be an incomplete sync and left it until today, when I saw your
report, synced, and tried again. When I click in the url bar or a text
box, I can get a blinking cursor but the interface freezes as soon as I
hit a key. This time, I waited about 3-4 minutes and it became
responsive again. After this waiting period, the url and text box (i.e.
Search at mandrakeclub.com) are useable again.
I was able to capture the strace at the freeze on a couple of occasions,
one after I had removed mozilla fonts. It seemed to be dealing with
/etc/hosts at the time, so I include that content.
$ strace mozilla
[..]
TE|MAP_FIXED, 27, 0x6000) = 0x41e86000
close(27) = 0
open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/libaudiofile.so.0, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/plugins/libaudiofile.so.0, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 27
read(27, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\}\0\000...,
1024) = 1024
fstat64(27, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=158396, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 161456, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 27, 0) = 0x4240f000
mprotect(0x42434000, 9904, PROT_NONE) = 0
old_mmap(0x42434000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
27, 0x24000) = 0x42434000
close(27) = 0
munmap(0x4240, 60346) = 0
access(/tmp/.esd/socket, R_OK|W_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 27
connect(27, {sa_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket}, 110) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(27) = 0
open(/etc/hosts, O_RDONLY)= 27
fcntl64(27, F_GETFD)= 0
fcntl64(27, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)= 0
fstat64(27, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=86, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0x4191c000
read(27, 10.0.0.10\t\tlocalhost.localdomain..., 4096) = 86
read(27, , 4096) = 0
close(27) = 0
munmap(0x4191c000, 4096)= 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 27
fcntl64(27, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)= 0
setsockopt(27, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, [1], 4) = 0
connect(27, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(16001),
sin_addr=inet_addr(10.0.0.10)}, 16
$ cat /etc/hosts
10.0.0.10 localhost.localdomain localhost
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
$ rpm -qa | grep mozilla
mozilla-fonts-2310-9mdk
mozilla-1.3-0.final.20030228.1mdk
mozilla-mail-1.3-0.final.20030228.1mdk
#urpme mozilla-fonts
$ strace mozilla
[..]
TE|MAP_FIXED, 26, 0x6000) = 0x4223a000
close(26) = 0
open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/libaudiofile.so.0, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/plugins/libaudiofile.so.0, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 26
read(26, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\}\0\000...,
1024) = 1024
fstat64(26, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=158396, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 161456, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 26, 0) = 0x4246d000
mprotect(0x42492000, 9904, PROT_NONE) = 0
old_mmap(0x42492000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
26, 0x24000) = 0x42492000
close(26) = 0
munmap(0x422e4000, 60346) = 0
access(/tmp/.esd/socket, R_OK|W_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 26
connect(26, {sa_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket}, 110) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(26) = 0
open(/etc/hosts, O_RDONLY)= 26
fcntl64(26, F_GETFD)= 0
fcntl64(26, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)= 0
fstat64(26, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=86, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0x4191c000
read(26, 10.0.0.10\t\tlocalhost.localdomain..., 4096) = 86
read(26, , 4096) = 0
close(26) = 0
munmap(0x4191c000, 4096)= 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 26
fcntl64(26,
Re: [Cooker] mozilla problems...
On Saturday 01 March 2003 05:49 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: I was able to capture the strace at the freeze on a couple of occasions, one after I had removed mozilla fonts. It seemed to be dealing with /etc/hosts at the time, so I include that content. Excellent, another name resolution issue. Buchan, did you catch this one? -- Greg
Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3 problems
Le Samedi 1 Mars 2003 19:52, Francisco a écrit : It seems that after the update to mozilla 1.3 in rc1 ShowkwaveFlass.class is not runing anymore, in /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-1.3/plugins/ is a broken link. I have used de FlasPlayer rpm from Mandrake club. Do I need other? Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) try to re run the flasplayer rpm installation now with --force option it will re register flash with the new mozilla. -- Pascal __ Running 7:27, 6 users, load average: 0.38, 0.46, 0.43 (gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-2mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.21pre4-10mdkenterprise
Re: [Cooker] [mozilla] font display problems with some pages sinceintroduction of xft
Lea Gris wrote: Hello, Since the introduction of xft I have invisible text display problems in some pages with mozilla. mozilla-1.3-0.alpha.3mdk If I highlight some of the invisible text it becomes partly visible not only in the highlighted region. Another much sumpler non commercial page that have the same font render problem : http://www.geme.qc.ca/problematiques.htm Here is a page URL that has this problem : http://www.ldlc.fr/fiche/PB00015331.html Here is a screenshot of what I get : http://www.noiraude.net/bugs/mozinvtext1.png And here while selecting some invisible text : http://www.noiraude.net/bugs/mozinvtext2.png Do you think I souhld fill a bug about this ? regards -- Léa Gris - http://www.noiraude.net/ () Campagne du ruban texte brut contre les courriels en HTML, /\ contre les pièces jointes Microsoft.
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla won't start since last urpmi --auto-select --auto ....
On Sun 05 Jan 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 21:39, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: Anyways...and I hope the Mozilla maintainer(s) take note of this: The dependencies in that rpm need to be fixed. I'm not sure which it is, whether glibc or GTK, but upgrading both of those packages fixed the problem for me. There's no reason why any upgrade should fail if all dependencies are correctly resolved. I don't think you read my post completely. The problem is not with urpmi. The problem is with the mozilla rpm itself. The rpm needs to be updated with new dependencies. That's exactly what I'm ranting about. The dependencies are fine for the distribution it is intended for. It is virtually impossible to keep all packages perfect for all distributions, heck, it's difficult just keeping some packages working well on just the supported distros. Is it really worthwhile (financially) to keep people who are (against recommendations) runnning some unknown mismatch of packages that only semi-resembles any Mandrake release? Rebuild the SRPM on your system, and then post back. Dynamic (ie output from ldd) dependencies are supposed to do this, assuming authors bump the major version o f their libraries when they break something. So go file a bug in Gnome bugzilla (or wherever best) about it if your own build works. Of course, you're on your own building the SRPM ... Buchan First, I don't have a problem. I know how to find the correct missing packages and upgrade. Secondly, I think an attitude like this defeats the purpose of an open source operating system. What I mean is this: yes, I agree it's too much work trying to make sure all dependencies for previous versions are correct (although I don't believe keeping track of dependencies from 9.0 to 9.1 cooker is too much). However, when such dependencies are actually discovered, they should be fixed, not discarded with the excuse of this being a beta distribution. I don't think it takes that much work to update an RPM's dependencies. Otherwise there's no point having people out there test the packages put in the cooker: you might as well close the cooker list and do everything behind closed doors. My beef wasn't with the fact that not every dependency is being tracked. I know it takes time, money and resources to do that. I just don't like attitudes that sort of defeat the purpose of having a Cooker distribution and an associated mailing list available to the public. -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla, drakconf and other programs fail to launch..
On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 22:18, Serge Plüss wrote: Hi I reported earlier that after the urpmi update on Monday December 30th mozilla would fail to launch. This had been a clean Cooker 9.1 install from early december and mozilla and drakconf had been working properly. I also have the same problem, I used to use mozilla for web email, changed to konqueror evolution (I was going to change to evolution and galeon for web anyway), but pan, galeon and many others are also broken. All with the same problem I think. If you look at the cooker email list lately you will also see others complaining about apps not working since last week. They all seem to be related to not finding fonts. Seems to be related to the latest XFree86, I had updated everything except XFree86 as I prefer to restart X after updating it. When I updated X the apps failed (I think). After doing to the urpmi --auto-select --auto ... on that monday morning mozilla would not launch anylonger. Not having able to resolve the issue I would just run the urpmi every morning and see if it would work again, uninstalled and reinstalled mozilla, removed the .mozilla directories, etc. So far no luck. Then today I tried to launch drakconf and it also failed to launch. But it gave me the following error message: - drakconf --verbose No fonts found; this probably means that the fontconfig library is not correctly configured. You may need to edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual page and on http://fontconfig.org - Now, since the original install of the fresh cooker and doing the urpmi's every morning I had not touched anything about the fontconfigs. Now obviously something that got updated on that december 30th must have caused this to brake. I checked the file /etc/fonts/fonts.config and the paths that are in there exist and have fonts in them. Also tried running fc-cache and no luck. Would love to be able to find out what it is and how this can be fixed without reinstalling the whole cooker from scratch. Here is the listing of packages that got updated that day. I read something that the latest XFree was doing something with Xft2 stuff but haven't been able to make sense of it for my current issue. Thanks in advance for any information or tips Serge Mon Dec 30 06:06:41 2002 /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mkisofs-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-jdbc-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-python-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gdm-2.4.0.12-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-python-4.0.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libpostproc0-0.90-0.rc2.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-server-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-devel-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libgpm1-1.20.1-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cdrecord-devel-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cvs-1.11.4-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bug-buddy-2.2.99-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gaim-0.59.7-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cdrecord-cdda2wav-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/xcdroast-0.98-26.alpha12mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/eject-2.0.13-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/nut-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libecpg3-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-build-4.0.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-devel-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cdrecord-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libdvdnav1-0.1.3-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/krozat-9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-test-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-xfs-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/popt-1.6.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gpm-1.20.1-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-4.0.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libmpeg2dec0-0.3.1-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/passwd-0.68-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libdha0.1-0.90-0.rc2.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-pim-1.4.8-4mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-libs-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libpgtcl2-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/xine-dvdnav-1-0.beta1.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mplayer-0.90-0.rc2.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/xine-win32-1-0.beta1.1plf.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/logrotate-3.6.6-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-devel-4.0.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-tcl-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla, drakconf and other programs fail to launch..
Quick fix: declare -x GDK_USE_XFT=0 Allows applications to start ! On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 22:56, Stephen Pickering wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 22:18, Serge Plüss wrote: Hi I reported earlier that after the urpmi update on Monday December 30th mozilla would fail to launch. This had been a clean Cooker 9.1 install from early december and mozilla and drakconf had been working properly. I also have the same problem, I used to use mozilla for web email, changed to konqueror evolution (I was going to change to evolution and galeon for web anyway), but pan, galeon and many others are also broken. All with the same problem I think. If you look at the cooker email list lately you will also see others complaining about apps not working since last week. They all seem to be related to not finding fonts. Seems to be related to the latest XFree86, I had updated everything except XFree86 as I prefer to restart X after updating it. When I updated X the apps failed (I think). After doing to the urpmi --auto-select --auto ... on that monday morning mozilla would not launch anylonger. Not having able to resolve the issue I would just run the urpmi every morning and see if it would work again, uninstalled and reinstalled mozilla, removed the .mozilla directories, etc. So far no luck. Then today I tried to launch drakconf and it also failed to launch. But it gave me the following error message: - drakconf --verbose No fonts found; this probably means that the fontconfig library is not correctly configured. You may need to edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual page and on http://fontconfig.org - Now, since the original install of the fresh cooker and doing the urpmi's every morning I had not touched anything about the fontconfigs. Now obviously something that got updated on that december 30th must have caused this to brake. I checked the file /etc/fonts/fonts.config and the paths that are in there exist and have fonts in them. Also tried running fc-cache and no luck. Would love to be able to find out what it is and how this can be fixed without reinstalling the whole cooker from scratch. Here is the listing of packages that got updated that day. I read something that the latest XFree was doing something with Xft2 stuff but haven't been able to make sense of it for my current issue. Thanks in advance for any information or tips Serge Mon Dec 30 06:06:41 2002 /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mkisofs-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-jdbc-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-python-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gdm-2.4.0.12-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-python-4.0.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libpostproc0-0.90-0.rc2.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-server-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-devel-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libgpm1-1.20.1-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cdrecord-devel-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cvs-1.11.4-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bug-buddy-2.2.99-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gaim-0.59.7-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cdrecord-cdda2wav-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/xcdroast-0.98-26.alpha12mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/eject-2.0.13-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/nut-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libecpg3-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-build-4.0.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-devel-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cdrecord-2.0-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libdvdnav1-0.1.3-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/krozat-9.1-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-test-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/postgresql-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-xfs-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/popt-1.6.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gpm-1.20.1-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-4.0.4-23mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libmpeg2dec0-0.3.1-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/passwd-0.68-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libdha0.1-0.90-0.rc2.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-pim-1.4.8-4mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-libs-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libpgtcl2-7.3.1-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/xine-dvdnav-1-0.beta1.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mplayer-0.90-0.rc2.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.2.99.3-1.20021223.1mdk.i586.rpm
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla won't start since last urpmi --auto-select--auto ....
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 21:39, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: Anyways...and I hope the Mozilla maintainer(s) take note of this: The dependencies in that rpm need to be fixed. I'm not sure which it is, whether glibc or GTK, but upgrading both of those packages fixed the problem for me. There's no reason why any upgrade should fail if all dependencies are correctly resolved. I don't think you read my post completely. The problem is not with urpmi. The problem is with the mozilla rpm itself. The rpm needs to be updated with new dependencies. That's exactly what I'm ranting about. The dependencies are fine for the distribution it is intended for. It is virtually impossible to keep all packages perfect for all distributions, heck, it's difficult just keeping some packages working well on just the supported distros. Is it really worthwhile (financially) to keep people who are (against recommendations) runnning some unknown mismatch of packages that only semi-resembles any Mandrake release? Rebuild the SRPM on your system, and then post back. Dynamic (ie output from ldd) dependencies are supposed to do this, assuming authors bump the major version o f their libraries when they break something. So go file a bug in Gnome bugzilla (or wherever best) about it if your own build works. Of course, you're on your own building the SRPM ... Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla on the latest cooker still not launching
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It starts for me without problemtry 'strace mozilla' to look where stops On Friday 03 January 2003 19:38, Serge Plüss wrote: [...] mozilla is not giving any error messages, just doesn't launch. I tried to [...] cu...;o) - -- Franco Silvestro c/o CeSIA - Alma Mater Studiorum - Universita' di Bologna 'lynx -source http://www.reti.unibo.it/FrancoSilvestro.asc | gpg --import' Key fingerprint = 3145 1309 C5D8 7B3F 2582 44D2 91BB ACAB E010 ABF9 Current Linux uptime: 5 hours 31 minutes. Linux Version 2.4.20-2mdk, Compiled #1 Mon Dec 9 15:07:53 CET 2002 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: 57 C - - Fri Jan 3 21:13:52 CET 2003 - - Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030103 19:33 One 650MHzIntelPentium III Processor, 512M RAM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Fe/8kbusq+AQq/kRAiniAJ4lBp4PlTcOF+R/+TUBDJw+CSRfVgCgkbnJ UHjEB1+ZUUVwYG7pNOiVBpI= =JP12 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla on the latest cooker still not launching
Ok, the strace output is pretty long. Here is just the last page before it
ends:
open(/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/fonts.cache-1, O_RDONLY) = 19
stat64(/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=3536,
...}) = 0
stat64(/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/fonts.cache-1, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644,
st_size=24217, ...}) = 0
fstat64(19, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=24217, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x409cc000
read(19, \p052024l.pfb\ 0 \URW Palladio L..., 4096) = 4096
brk(0) = 0x839a000
brk(0x839b000) = 0x839b000
read(19, gv|ho|hr|hu|ia|id|ie|ik|io|is|it..., 4096) = 4096
read(19, 5 !!!W5 !!#3H!)pSj !..., 4096) = 4096
brk(0) = 0x839b000
brk(0x839c000) = 0x839c000
read(19, d Oblique:slant=100:weight=200:i..., 4096) = 4096
read(19, |smj|smn|so|sq|sr|sv|sw|tg|tk|tn..., 4096) = 4096
brk(0) = 0x839c000
brk(0x839d000) = 0x839d000
read(19, oc|om|os|pl|pt|rm|ru|sah|se|sel|..., 4096) = 3737
brk(0) = 0x839d000
brk(0x839e000) = 0x839e000
read(19, , 4096) = 0
close(19) = 0
munmap(0x409cc000, 4096)= 0
unlink(/tmp/orbit-spluess/linc-9dc-0-78375ff67fbc) = 0
close(7)= 0
writev(8, [{GIOP\1\2\1\5\4\0\0\0, 12}, {p\357\377\277, 4}], 2) = 16
close(8)= 0
writev(6, [{GIOP\1\2\1\5\4\0\0\0, 12}, {p\357\377\277, 4}], 2) = 16
close(6)= 0
getpid()= 2524
write(2, \n** (unknown:2524): WARNING **..., 75) = 75
getpid()= 2524
write(2, \n** (unknown:2524): WARNING **..., 86) = 86
write(12, \200\260$@\2\0\0\0\1\0\0\0008\230\f\10\200\203\n\10`-\n..., 148) =
148
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [RTMIN], 8) = 0
rt_sigsuspend([] unfinished ...
--- SIGRTMIN (Real-time signal 0) ---
... rt_sigsuspend resumed ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [RTMIN])
wait4(2560, NULL, __WCLONE, NULL) = 2560
SYS_252(0x1, 0, 0, 0x4042c824, 0x1) = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented)
_exit(1)= ?
Hope this helps
Serge
On Friday 03 January 2003 12:17 pm, Franco Silvestro wrote:
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It starts for me without problemtry 'strace mozilla' to look where
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On Friday 03 January 2003 19:38, Serge Plüss wrote:
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mozilla is not giving any error messages, just doesn't launch. I tried to
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cu...;o)
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