[CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think the original question to the list was someone asking about individual coffee makers and advice on a good drip coffee maker. I don't want to sound disrespectful but I don't think it helps when someone is interested in may be purchasing one of these coffee machines and is asking for advice and many responses are not about the machine but how expensive it is and that they would never purchase one. To me that isn't helpful and in a way you are telling others who have these machines or are wanting to purchase one that they have wasted there money. Which of coarse it is there money to waste. Sorry if I have gone over the line and offended anyone because this is not my intention just an observation. Shannon -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:03 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig If I were a coffee drinker, these would be far, far to expensive for something that makes a single cup at a time. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Maria" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig Hi Shirley, I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for some time now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have one question. Do you know how much they cost? Thanks for your help. Maria - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig I like the Keurig (one cup coffee maker) because it's always fresh, no stale coffee, no measuring, can drink tea, cocoa, hot apple cider, lemonade and not always just coffee. Just to let you know also, you're not supposed to put coffee grounds in the garbage disposal. I had some reputable person from Sears to tell me never to do that. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Shannon Hannah" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think the original question to the list was someone asking about individual coffee makers and advice on a good drip coffee maker. I don't want to sound disrespectful but I don't think it helps when someone is interested in may be purchasing one of these coffee machines and is asking for advice and many responses are not about the machine but how expensive it is and that they would never purchase one. To me that isn't helpful and in a way you are telling others who have these machines or are wanting to purchase one that they have wasted there money. Which of coarse it is there money to waste. Sorry if I have gone over the line and offended anyone because this is not my intention just an observation. Shannon -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:03 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig If I were a coffee drinker, these would be far, far to expensive for something that makes a single cup at a time. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Maria" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig Hi Shirley, I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for some time now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have one question. Do you know how much they cost? Thanks for your help. Maria - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig I like the Keurig (one cup coffee maker) because it's always fresh, no stale coffee, no measuring, can drink tea, cocoa, hot apple cider, lemonade and not always just coffee. Just to let you know also, you're not supposed to put coffee grounds in the garbage disposal. I had some reputable person from Sears to tell me never to do that. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but anyone on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the costs of each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made for one of these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my Tassimo. Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed back on the machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I guess When I say feed back I mean for example, which ones are the best for flavour or value, how do they work, do they make a good cup of coffee, where are the best deals or would you ever buy one again. Shannon -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Shannon Hannah" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think the original question to the list was someone asking about individual coffee makers and advice on a good drip coffee maker. I don't want to sound disrespectful but I don't think it helps when someone is interested in may be purchasing one of these coffee machines and is asking for advice and many responses are not about the machine but how expensive it is and that they would never purchase one. To me that isn't helpful and in a way you are telling others who have these machines or are wanting to purchase one that they have wasted there money. Which of coarse it is there money to waste. Sorry if I have gone over the line and offended anyone because this is not my intention just an observation. Shannon -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:03 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig If I were a coffee drinker, these would be far, far to expensive for something that makes a single cup at a time. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Maria" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig Hi Shirley, I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for some time now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have one question. Do you know how much they cost? Thanks for your help. Maria - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig I like the Keurig (one cup coffee maker) because it's always fresh, no stale coffee, no measuring, can drink tea, cocoa, hot apple cider, lemonade and not always just coffee. Just to let you know also, you're not supposed to put coffee grounds in the garbage disposal. I had some reputable person from Sears to tell me never to do that. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
It's obvious that these machines have a lot of ardent followers, because they come up frequently here. The Keurig seems to be the one most often touted, and I have to admit that I didn't know there were any other options out there because the other ones (like yours) hasn't been mentioned. (Not that I read all the messages, as I'm not a coffee drinker) I would suspect that Consumer Reports might have a comparison article on these machines, and if they don't it'd make a great suggestion for them. And since Consumer Reports is one of the magazines the nls does in audio for each issue it's available for folks to access, too. There's the option of searching EBSCOHost too if your local library offers it as an online database, (many do as it's a popular resource) so that's another search vector for this information. Though I sympathize with your desire to get substantive information on this and other topics, there's going to be a lot of opinion expressed, both on and off topic, as folks tend to be highly enamored with their own opinions these days. Best to ignore the worst offenders or filter them out of your reading preferences, as it's inevitable that some folks aren't going to get along with everyone. I know it's frustrating, but that's life on the internet. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Shannon Hannah > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:09 AM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread > > OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but anyone > on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the costs of > each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made for one of > these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my Tassimo. > Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed back on the > machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I guess When I say > feed back I mean for example, which ones are the best for flavour or > value, how do they work, do they make a good cup of coffee, where are > the best deals or would you ever buy one again. > Shannon > > -Original Message- > From: Charles Rivard > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread > > Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There > should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they > are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. > It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price > for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, > could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. > This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. > > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > finished, you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: "Shannon Hannah" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 AM > Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread > > > >I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee > >makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think > the > >original question to the list was someone asking about individual > coffee > >makers and advice on a good drip coffee maker. > > I don't want to sound disrespectful but I don't think it helps when > > someone is interested in may be purchasing one of these coffee > machines > > and is asking for advice and many responses are not about the machine > but > > how expensive it is and that they would never purchase one. To me > that > > isn't helpful and in a way you are telling others who have these > machines > > or are wanting to purchase one that they have wasted there money. > Which of > > coarse it is there money to waste. Sorry if I have gone over the line > and > > offended anyone because this is not my intention just an observation. > > Shannon > > -Original Message- > > From: Charles Rivard > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:03 AM > > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig > > > > If I were a coffee drinker, these would be far, far to expensive for > > something that makes a single cup at a time. > > > > --- > > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > > finished, > > you! really! are! finished! > > - Original Message - > > From: "Maria" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 10:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig > > > > > >> Hi Shirley, > >> > >> I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for > some > >> time now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have > one > >> question. Do you know how much they cost? > >> > >> Thanks for your help. > >> > >> Maria > >> > >> - Original Message -
[CnD] how the list has changed
I remember the reason that I joined this list. It was not only to collect and to read recipes, but to also get them from the perspective of a blind person, whether they are or are not a good cook. This would include tips and tricks on how to perform tasks without using eyesight. For instance, "bake until golden brown. Do not overcook.". How do you know when something is brown if you cannot see it? I'm not looking for answers here, but this is just an example of what I mean. The list was that way when I joined. Someone would ask for a good cookie recipe, and people who are blind, who has used the recipe they have, would send it in, along with those very important and helpful tricks and tips. Dale's cooking podcasts are a good example of this. Now, if someone asks for a good cookie recipe, they are most likely to get several recipes that are copied from an Internet search that they have not had any personal experience working with. You can tell that these are copied from the Internet by the way they are written and spaced. For example: 1 tsb brown sugar 3 Tbsp honey 4 cp flour 1/2 c chopped nuts Mix all ingredients well and roll out to 1/8 thickness and cut into squares. Place on greased cookie sheet and bake at 325dg for 10 mins or until lightly browned. Notice the abbreviation and spacing? And if someone asks a question about it, chances are, the one who sent the recipe doesn't know the answer because they haven't tried the recipe. I sure do wish that the list would return to the way it used to be: A list of tried and true recipes from blind people who give advice based on their own personal experience with the recipes they send. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
The cost of the Keurig machines vary. The one I have was on sale and cost about seventy dollars. The reservoir holds enough water for about seven or eight cups, which is convenient if you have several friends over, and each wants a different type of coffee. This machine is perfect for someone who has arthritis or other hand and arm conditions that make it difficult to lift a heavy pot of coffee. It's also great for those who only want one cup of coffee a day. Yes, it's expensive, but if you shop Amazon and other such places, you can find sales on K-cups. For the first couple years of the Keurig's production, I stated flatly that I would not buy one. Then I saw one in operation, and how convenient it was, and I bought one! I'm not a heavy coffee drinker, so this is perfect for me. The variety of K-cups is expanding all the time, and I love to try flavors I wouldn't otherwise buy. If I buy a flavor I discover I don't like, I have plenty of Keurig owners who are happy to take the coffee off my hands. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > It's obvious that these machines have a lot of ardent followers, because > they come up frequently here. The Keurig seems to be the one most often > touted, and I have to admit that I didn't know there were any other options > out there because the other ones (like yours) hasn't been mentioned. (Not > that I read all the messages, as I'm not a coffee drinker) > I would suspect that Consumer Reports might have a comparison article on > these machines, and if they don't it'd make a great suggestion for them. > And > since Consumer Reports is one of the magazines the nls does in audio for > each issue it's available for folks to access, too. There's the option of > searching EBSCOHost too if your local library offers it as an online > database, (many do as it's a popular resource) so that's another search > vector for this information. > Though I sympathize with your desire to get substantive information on this > and other topics, there's going to be a lot of opinion expressed, both on > and off topic, as folks tend to be highly enamored with their own opinions > these days. Best to ignore the worst offenders or filter them out of your > reading preferences, as it's inevitable that some folks aren't going to get > along with everyone. I know it's frustrating, but that's life on the > internet. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >> On Behalf Of Shannon Hannah >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:09 AM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but anyone >> on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the costs of >> each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made for one of >> these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my Tassimo. >> Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed back on the >> machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I guess When I say >> feed back I mean for example, which ones are the best for flavour or >> value, how do they work, do they make a good cup of coffee, where are >> the best deals or would you ever buy one again. >> Shannon >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Charles Rivard >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There >> should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they >> are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. >> It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price >> for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, >> could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. >> This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. >> >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >> finished, you! really! are! finished! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Shannon Hannah" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 AM >> Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> >> >I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee >> >makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think >> the >> >original question to the list was someone asking about individual >> coffee >> >makers and advice on a good drip coffee maker. >> > I don't want to sound disrespectful but I don't think it helps when >> > someone is interested in may be purchasing one of these coffee >> machines >> > and is asking for advice and many responses are not about the machine >> but >> > how expensive it is and that they would never purchase one. To me >> that >> > isn't helpful and in a way you are telling others who have these >> machines >> > or a
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
I can see your point as I too do like to know exactly how to tell when something is done. I have, however, been guilty of sending recipes that I have not tried. I will try to stick to things that I have had experience with as this may be more beneficial to others on the list. There are some great cooks on this list and I am always eager to learn how they do things. Sharing methods between blind people is a great learning tool. Mike Exercise Daily Walk with God -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: cooking in the dark list Subject: [CnD] how the list has changed I remember the reason that I joined this list. It was not only to collect and to read recipes, but to also get them from the perspective of a blind person, whether they are or are not a good cook. This would include tips and tricks on how to perform tasks without using eyesight. For instance, "bake until golden brown. Do not overcook.". How do you know when something is brown if you cannot see it? I'm not looking for answers here, but this is just an example of what I mean. The list was that way when I joined. Someone would ask for a good cookie recipe, and people who are blind, who has used the recipe they have, would send it in, along with those very important and helpful tricks and tips. Dale's cooking podcasts are a good example of this. Now, if someone asks for a good cookie recipe, they are most likely to get several recipes that are copied from an Internet search that they have not had any personal experience working with. You can tell that these are copied from the Internet by the way they are written and spaced. For example: 1 tsb brown sugar 3 Tbsp honey 4 cp flour 1/2 c chopped nuts Mix all ingredients well and roll out to 1/8 thickness and cut into squares. Place on greased cookie sheet and bake at 325dg for 10 mins or until lightly browned. Notice the abbreviation and spacing? And if someone asks a question about it, chances are, the one who sent the recipe doesn't know the answer because they haven't tried the recipe. I sure do wish that the list would return to the way it used to be: A list of tried and true recipes from blind people who give advice based on their own personal experience with the recipes they send. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
Thanks. That's why I signed up for this list, because someone told me I could learn a lot from the other blind people here. I know very little but have a good desire to learn! -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Mike and jean Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:33 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed I can see your point as I too do like to know exactly how to tell when something is done. I have, however, been guilty of sending recipes that I have not tried. I will try to stick to things that I have had experience with as this may be more beneficial to others on the list. There are some great cooks on this list and I am always eager to learn how they do things. Sharing methods between blind people is a great learning tool. Mike Exercise Daily Walk with God -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: cooking in the dark list Subject: [CnD] how the list has changed I remember the reason that I joined this list. It was not only to collect and to read recipes, but to also get them from the perspective of a blind person, whether they are or are not a good cook. This would include tips and tricks on how to perform tasks without using eyesight. For instance, "bake until golden brown. Do not overcook.". How do you know when something is brown if you cannot see it? I'm not looking for answers here, but this is just an example of what I mean. The list was that way when I joined. Someone would ask for a good cookie recipe, and people who are blind, who has used the recipe they have, would send it in, along with those very important and helpful tricks and tips. Dale's cooking podcasts are a good example of this. Now, if someone asks for a good cookie recipe, they are most likely to get several recipes that are copied from an Internet search that they have not had any personal experience working with. You can tell that these are copied from the Internet by the way they are written and spaced. For example: 1 tsb brown sugar 3 Tbsp honey 4 cp flour 1/2 c chopped nuts Mix all ingredients well and roll out to 1/8 thickness and cut into squares. Place on greased cookie sheet and bake at 325dg for 10 mins or until lightly browned. Notice the abbreviation and spacing? And if someone asks a question about it, chances are, the one who sent the recipe doesn't know the answer because they haven't tried the recipe. I sure do wish that the list would return to the way it used to be: A list of tried and true recipes from blind people who give advice based on their own personal experience with the recipes they send. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It is natural to say if the loaf is brown, instead of tap the bottom of a loaf of bread to see if it is done. And it does take some practice to feel the edge of a pizza shell to tell if the pizza is done because there is no way of tapping it to see if it is hollow. For me, I don't post a recipe, unless I have made it at one time or the other.Lately, out of laziness I been using the crockpot with their liners that can be picked up at most any grocery store for about fifty cents a piece. And for the cleanup it saves and time, I feel that 50 cent is well worth the cost. If some one has a question on a recipe, they should ask for a clarification , instead of complaining because the recipe doesn't suit them the way it was presented. And to tell some one, it takes this exact time is a joke, it is a estimate, for example the recipe on the lasagna I posted yesterday claims, it take 4 1/2 hours on low. Not in my crockpot, it takes 3 1/2 hours on low. The only thing I can recommend, is to check your food before the time a recipe calls for and do it according to taste and feel within the guidelines of the time a recipe calls for. I have found meat is one of the things that time usually is the same if the same temps are used. A good example is the focaccia (Italian Flat Bread) I made yesterday, my wife came home and said the bread is brown, better take it out before it burns. I did, knowing full well it wasn't, but also knew I could and i did put it back in the oven to finish baking, which I did about 1/2 hours later, after she told me that the Focaccia isn't done. RJ - Original Message - From: "Mike and jean" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed I can see your point as I too do like to know exactly how to tell when something is done. I have, however, been guilty of sending recipes that I have not tried. I will try to stick to things that I have had experience with as this may be more beneficial to others on the list. There are some great cooks on this list and I am always eager to learn how they do things. Sharing methods between blind people is a great learning tool. Mike Exercise Daily Walk with God -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: cooking in the dark list Subject: [CnD] how the list has changed I remember the reason that I joined this list. It was not only to collect and to read recipes, but to also get them from the perspective of a blind person, whether they are or are not a good cook. This would include tips and tricks on how to perform tasks without using eyesight. For instance, "bake until golden brown. Do not overcook.". How do you know when something is brown if you cannot see it? I'm not looking for answers here, but this is just an example of what I mean. The list was that way when I joined. Someone would ask for a good cookie recipe, and people who are blind, who has used the recipe they have, would send it in, along with those very important and helpful tricks and tips. Dale's cooking podcasts are a good example of this. Now, if someone asks for a good cookie recipe, they are most likely to get several recipes that are copied from an Internet search that they have not had any personal experience working with. You can tell that these are copied from the Internet by the way they are written and spaced. For example: 1 tsb brown sugar 3 Tbsp honey 4 cp flour 1/2 c chopped nuts Mix all ingredients well and roll out to 1/8 thickness and cut into squares. Place on greased cookie sheet and bake at 325dg for 10 mins or until lightly browned. Notice the abbreviation and spacing? And if someone asks a question about it, chances are, the one who sent the recipe doesn't know the answer because they haven't tried the recipe. I sure do wish that the list would return to the way it used to be: A list of tried and true recipes from blind people who give advice based on their own personal experience with the recipes they send. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it deals with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of craft and art to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact same recipe crashes and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the cook can understand the variables is often key to turning out a great meal. My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts to make bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix crashed to one degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread Machine Baker and got adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her banana bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because we'd had some crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior roommates had some abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found out that the jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", doesn't have anything about getting yeast to room temperature before using it. The cinnamon bread she made last night came out perfect, and will make a wonderful bread for French Toast. What clued me in was her only successful bread was the Irish Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas gathering last weekend, and we opened the bread machine yeast to make it, so it was already at room temperature. Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and the answer presented itself. (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above recipes you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and please start a new thread instead of just replying to this one) > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of RJ > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:56 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed > > One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It is > natural to say if the loaf is brown, instead of tap the bottom of a > loaf of bread to see if it is done. And it does take some practice to > feel the edge of a pizza shell to tell if the pizza is done because > there is no way of tapping it to see if it is hollow. For me, I don't > post a recipe, unless I have made it at one time or the other.Lately, > out of laziness I been using the crockpot with their liners that can be > picked up at most any grocery store for about fifty cents a piece. And > for the cleanup it saves and time, I feel that 50 cent is well worth > the cost. If some one has a question on a recipe, they should ask for > a clarification , instead of complaining because the recipe doesn't > suit them the way it was presented. > And to tell some one, it takes this exact time is a joke, it is a > estimate, for example the recipe on the lasagna I posted yesterday > claims, it take 4 > 1/2 hours on low. Not in my crockpot, it takes 3 1/2 hours on low. The > only thing I can recommend, is to check your food before the time a > recipe calls for and do it according to taste and feel within the > guidelines of the time a recipe calls for. I have found meat is one of > the things that time usually is the same if the same temps are used. > A good example is the focaccia (Italian Flat Bread) I made yesterday, > my wife came home and said the bread is brown, better take it out > before it burns. I did, knowing full well it wasn't, but also knew I > could and i did put it back in the oven to finish baking, which I did > about 1/2 hours later, after she told me that the Focaccia isn't done. > RJ > - Original Message - > From: "Mike and jean" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed > > > >I can see your point as I too do like to know exactly how to tell when > >something is done. I have, however, been guilty of sending recipes > >that I have not tried. I will try to stick to things that I have had > >experience with as this may be more beneficial to others on the list. > >There are some great cooks on this list and I am always eager to > learn > >how they do things. > > Sharing methods between blind people is a great learning tool. Mike > > > > Exercise Daily > > Walk with God > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > > On Behalf Of Charles Rivard > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:54 PM > > To: cooking in the dark list > > Subject: [CnD] how the list has changed > > > > I remember the reason that I joined this list. It was not only to > > collect and to read recipes, but to also get them from the > perspective > > of a blind person, whether they are or are not a good cook. This > > would include tips and tricks on how to perform tasks without using > > eyesight. For instance, "bake until golden brown. Do not > overcook.". > > How do you know when something is brown if you cannot see it? I'm > not > > looking for answers here, but this is just an example of what I
[CnD] Bread machine cinnomon bread
Ok Nicole, following your instruction I have started a new thread *smile* ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
[CnD] (no subject)
Bread machine banana bread recipe Nicole I would like this recipe as well. thx ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Bread machine cinnamon bread
Okay, give me time to get the roommate to transcribe it. It may take a bit -- she's sort of busy today and the rest of this week. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Vincent > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:45 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: [CnD] Bread machine cinnomon bread > > Ok Nicole, following your instruction I have started a new thread > *smile* > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] (no subject)
Will do, though understand this is an untried recipe -- it failed when she made it, so we'll have to attempt it again to make sure it works. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Vincent > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:47 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: [CnD] (no subject) > > Bread machine banana bread recipe Nicole I would like this recipe as > well. > thx > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] (bread machine bannana bread recipe
Sorry forgot the subject -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:47 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: [CnD] (no subject) Bread machine banana bread recipe Nicole I would like this recipe as well. thx ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Bread machine cinnamon bread
Sure no problem -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:50 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Bread machine cinnamon bread Okay, give me time to get the roommate to transcribe it. It may take a bit -- she's sort of busy today and the rest of this week. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Vincent > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:45 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: [CnD] Bread machine cinnomon bread > > Ok Nicole, following your instruction I have started a new thread > *smile* > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] (no subject)
Ok hope your breakthrough is the fix for the recipe -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:51 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] (no subject) Will do, though understand this is an untried recipe -- it failed when she made it, so we'll have to attempt it again to make sure it works. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Vincent > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:47 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: [CnD] (no subject) > > Bread machine banana bread recipe Nicole I would like this recipe as > well. > thx > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
the 70 dollar one sounds like a good one. You can also buy the my kay cup attachment. I like the fact that there is also other things like tea and cider. Its another tool. I will get one when I have the money. lol! Best, Melissa R Green Hold fast to dreams, For if dreams die Life is a broken-winged bird, That cannot fly. Langston Hughes - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Chambers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread The cost of the Keurig machines vary. The one I have was on sale and cost about seventy dollars. The reservoir holds enough water for about seven or eight cups, which is convenient if you have several friends over, and each wants a different type of coffee. This machine is perfect for someone who has arthritis or other hand and arm conditions that make it difficult to lift a heavy pot of coffee. It's also great for those who only want one cup of coffee a day. Yes, it's expensive, but if you shop Amazon and other such places, you can find sales on K-cups. For the first couple years of the Keurig's production, I stated flatly that I would not buy one. Then I saw one in operation, and how convenient it was, and I bought one! I'm not a heavy coffee drinker, so this is perfect for me. The variety of K-cups is expanding all the time, and I love to try flavors I wouldn't otherwise buy. If I buy a flavor I discover I don't like, I have plenty of Keurig owners who are happy to take the coffee off my hands. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > It's obvious that these machines have a lot of ardent followers, because > they come up frequently here. The Keurig seems to be the one most often > touted, and I have to admit that I didn't know there were any other > options > out there because the other ones (like yours) hasn't been mentioned. (Not > that I read all the messages, as I'm not a coffee drinker) > I would suspect that Consumer Reports might have a comparison article on > these machines, and if they don't it'd make a great suggestion for them. > And > since Consumer Reports is one of the magazines the nls does in audio for > each issue it's available for folks to access, too. There's the option of > searching EBSCOHost too if your local library offers it as an online > database, (many do as it's a popular resource) so that's another search > vector for this information. > Though I sympathize with your desire to get substantive information on > this > and other topics, there's going to be a lot of opinion expressed, both on > and off topic, as folks tend to be highly enamored with their own opinions > these days. Best to ignore the worst offenders or filter them out of your > reading preferences, as it's inevitable that some folks aren't going to > get > along with everyone. I know it's frustrating, but that's life on the > internet. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >> On Behalf Of Shannon Hannah >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:09 AM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but anyone >> on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the costs of >> each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made for one of >> these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my Tassimo. >> Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed back on the >> machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I guess When I say >> feed back I mean for example, which ones are the best for flavour or >> value, how do they work, do they make a good cup of coffee, where are >> the best deals or would you ever buy one again. >> Shannon >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Charles Rivard >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There >> should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they >> are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. >> It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price >> for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, >> could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. >> This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. >> >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >> finished, you! really! are! finished! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Shannon Hannah" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 AM >> Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> >> >I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee >> >makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think >> the >> >original question to
[CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig
Well, my point when I wrote about the Keurig is that you not only can use it to make coffee but you can use it for other beverages like tea, hot apple cider, hot chocolate, iced teas. How many other coffee makers will allow you to make other beverages besides coffee and not have to worry about them tasting like coffee? No cleanup is necessary either except to clean the machine every 3 to 6 months, according to how often you use it. I get a box of 50 K-cups for around $29.00 from Amazon about every other month. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
[CnD] Other Reasons Why I Like the Keurig
A few more reasons why I like the Keurig is you can choose how much coffee you want to make if you get the big machine. You can make a 12 ounce cup, 10, 8, 6 or 4 ounce cup. You can also control the temperature as far as how hot you want your beverage to be and I believe there are 5 temperature settings for this, but as far as I know, you cannot do this with other coffee makers. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
[CnD] About Coffee Makers
I've heard people say their machine doesn't last a long time but they're not meant to last forever. You all know things aren't necessarily made as good as they used to be but I'd still buy another one anytime. I hate measuring out coffee, hate to have to clean up afterwards. I really love the convenience of these machines. You can buy the very small ones at around $99 and if you like to watch QVC, they run specials on them. I got my second machine free because I'd hat it less than a year but something happened to the K-cup holder so I got it free. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Other Reasons Why I Like the Keurig
Shirly, Do you know what model you have? thanks -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of shirley baker Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:45 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: [CnD] Other Reasons Why I Like the Keurig A few more reasons why I like the Keurig is you can choose how much coffee you want to make if you get the big machine. You can make a 12 ounce cup, 10, 8, 6 or 4 ounce cup. You can also control the temperature as far as how hot you want your beverage to be and I believe there are 5 temperature settings for this, but as far as I know, you cannot do this with other coffee makers. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Other Reasons Why I Like the Keurig
With the one I have, you get only two choices in the ounces of liquid per cup;--i.e., twelve or ten, I think it is. There is only one setting for the heat, but it's exactly the temperature I like. You are right, Shirley, though, that other coffeemakers don't offer the choices the larger Keurig offers. For those who are looking into the Keurig and its competitors, the competing machines are, for the most part, less expensive.. Some are around fifty dollars. You may want to look at the kinds of pids the machine takes. You can use K-cups with some of them, but others only take a certain brand of pod. Even though the Keurig was more expensive, the K-cups offered a wider range of flavored coffees that appealed to me, and that's why I chose the Keurig. Since I'm not a purist, I love some flavored coffees. I'm not putting down purists in the least, for I am a purist when it comes to certain food. I'm only explaining why I chose the Keurig, rather than one of the other, less expensive machines. If you are a purist, and you only like unflavored coffee, then one of the other machines may be the thing for you. Jennifer On 2/9/14, shirley baker wrote: > A few more reasons why I like the Keurig is you can choose how much coffee > you want to make if you get the big machine. You can make a 12 ounce cup, > 10, 8, 6 or 4 ounce cup. You can also control the temperature as far as how > hot you want your beverage to be and I believe there are 5 temperature > settings for this, but as far as I know, you cannot do this with other > coffee makers. > Shirley > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of this type of dish." I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and those people have actually tried. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it deals > with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of craft and > art > to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact same recipe crashes > and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the cook can understand the > variables is often key to turning out a great meal. > My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts to > make > bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix crashed to > one > degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread Machine Baker and got > adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her banana > bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because we'd had some > crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior roommates had some > abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found out that the > jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", doesn't have anything > about getting yeast to room temperature before using it. The cinnamon bread > she made last night came out perfect, and will make a wonderful bread for > French Toast. What clued me in was her only successful bread was the Irish > Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas gathering last weekend, and we opened the > bread machine yeast to make it, so it was already at room temperature. > Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and the > answer presented itself. > (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above recipes > you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and please start a new > thread instead of just replying to this one) > >> -Original Message- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >> On Behalf Of RJ >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:56 PM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed >> >> One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It is >> natural to say if the loaf is brown, instead of tap the bottom of a >> loaf of bread to see if it is done. And it does take some practice to >> feel the edge of a pizza shell to tell if the pizza is done because >> there is no way of tapping it to see if it is hollow. For me, I don't >> post a recipe, unless I have made it at one time or the other.Lately, >> out of laziness I been using the crockpot with their liners that can be >> picked up at most any grocery store for about fifty cents a piece. And >> for the cleanup it saves and time, I feel that 50 cent is well worth >> the cost. If some one has a question on a recipe, they should ask for >> a clarification , instead of complaining because the recipe doesn't >> suit them the way it was presented. >> And to tell some one, it takes this exact time is a joke, it is a >> estimate, for example the recipe on the lasagna I posted yesterday >> claims, it take 4 >> 1/2 hours on low. Not in my crockpot, it takes 3 1/2 hours on low. The >> only thing I can recommend, is to check your food before the time a >> recipe calls for and do it according to taste and feel within the >> guidelines of the time a recipe calls for. I have found meat is one of >> the things that time usually is the same if the same temps are used. >> A good example is the focaccia (Italian Flat Bread) I made yesterday, >> my wife came home and said the bread is brown, better take it out >> before it burns. I did, knowing full well it wasn't, but also knew I >> could and i did put it back in the oven to finish baking, which I did >> about 1/2 hours later, after she told me that the Focaccia isn't done. >> RJ >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mike and jean" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed >> >> >> >I can see your point as I too do like to know exactly how to tell when >> >something is done. I have, however, been guilty of sending recipes >> >that I have not tried. I will try to stick to things that I have had >> >experience with as this may be more beneficial to others on the list. >> >There are some great cooks on this list and I am always eager to >> learn >> >how they do things. >> > Sharing methods between blind people is a great learning tool. Mike >> > >> > Exercise Daily >> > Walk with God >> > >> > -Original
[CnD] Bulk dried yeast
here is some thing I learned over the years of using bulk yeast. Put the yeast in the freezer after opening. Will last up to two years. might last longer, but never had yeast more than two years. If making bread by hand and not a machine. Have the water hot, I get mine out of a hot water dispenser (180 degrees F). Put in a cup of flour and stir well. Make sure the temp is under 115 degrees and add the yeast, than continue with your recipe. It appears the yeast works faster. RJ ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
[CnD] Platinum
Someone wanted to know the model I have of the Keurig and it is the platinum. It's pretty expensive but worth the money to me. I got this second one from www.keurig.com but it was free because of the reasons I stated in another message. The first one I got was from Bed, Bath and Beyond but it didn't have all the features that my second one has and the model I have now has a 65 ounce water reservoir. You can also get these at www.qvc.com and you get k-cups with your machine. They also have a Keurig machine called the Vue but I think it is digital but it has a milk frother on it and you can do things with that that you cannot do with the ones that use k-cups. They have a different kind of cup they use for those machines. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
Last week HSN was showing my machine, the Flex Brew by Hamilton Beach that I bought a year or so ago from Amazon. There it cost $49. It does one cup at a time, and can handle Senseo pods, K-cups, or regular coffee. - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Chambers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread The cost of the Keurig machines vary. The one I have was on sale and cost about seventy dollars. The reservoir holds enough water for about seven or eight cups, which is convenient if you have several friends over, and each wants a different type of coffee. This machine is perfect for someone who has arthritis or other hand and arm conditions that make it difficult to lift a heavy pot of coffee. It's also great for those who only want one cup of coffee a day. Yes, it's expensive, but if you shop Amazon and other such places, you can find sales on K-cups. For the first couple years of the Keurig's production, I stated flatly that I would not buy one. Then I saw one in operation, and how convenient it was, and I bought one! I'm not a heavy coffee drinker, so this is perfect for me. The variety of K-cups is expanding all the time, and I love to try flavors I wouldn't otherwise buy. If I buy a flavor I discover I don't like, I have plenty of Keurig owners who are happy to take the coffee off my hands. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: It's obvious that these machines have a lot of ardent followers, because they come up frequently here. The Keurig seems to be the one most often touted, and I have to admit that I didn't know there were any other options out there because the other ones (like yours) hasn't been mentioned. (Not that I read all the messages, as I'm not a coffee drinker) I would suspect that Consumer Reports might have a comparison article on these machines, and if they don't it'd make a great suggestion for them. And since Consumer Reports is one of the magazines the nls does in audio for each issue it's available for folks to access, too. There's the option of searching EBSCOHost too if your local library offers it as an online database, (many do as it's a popular resource) so that's another search vector for this information. Though I sympathize with your desire to get substantive information on this and other topics, there's going to be a lot of opinion expressed, both on and off topic, as folks tend to be highly enamored with their own opinions these days. Best to ignore the worst offenders or filter them out of your reading preferences, as it's inevitable that some folks aren't going to get along with everyone. I know it's frustrating, but that's life on the internet. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Hannah Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:09 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but anyone on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the costs of each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made for one of these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my Tassimo. Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed back on the machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I guess When I say feed back I mean for example, which ones are the best for flavour or value, how do they work, do they make a good cup of coffee, where are the best deals or would you ever buy one again. Shannon -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Shannon Hannah" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee >makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think the >original question to the list was someone asking about individual coffee >makers and advice on a good drip coffee maker. > I don't want to sound disrespectful but I don't think it helps when > someone is interested in may be purchasing one of these coffee machines > and is asking for advice and many responses a
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
What might help is for folks to put the status of a recipe at the top of it when they send it. Things like "I've made this several times", "I made this once", "I got this from this mailing list and haven't tried it, but other blind folks have", and "I found this on the net and haven't tried it yet" can be helpful in letting folks determine what level of blind-friendliness conversion has been done to a recipe. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Jennifer Chambers > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed > > I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and > methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing > things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes > they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount > of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, > we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a > recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of > this type of dish." > > I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and > those people have actually tried. > > Jennifer > > On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > > It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it > > deals with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of > > craft and art to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact > > same recipe crashes and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the > > cook can understand the variables is often key to turning out a great > > meal. > > My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts > > to make bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix > > crashed to one degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread > > Machine Baker and got > > adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her > > banana bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because > we'd > > had some crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior > roommates > > had some abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found > > out that the jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", > > doesn't have anything about getting yeast to room temperature before > > using it. The cinnamon bread she made last night came out perfect, > and > > will make a wonderful bread for French Toast. What clued me in was > her > > only successful bread was the Irish Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas > > gathering last weekend, and we opened the bread machine yeast to make > it, so it was already at room temperature. > > Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and > the > > answer presented itself. > > (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above > > recipes you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and > please > > start a new thread instead of just replying to this one) > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark- > boun...@acbradio.org] > >> On Behalf Of RJ > >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:56 PM > >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > >> Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed > >> > >> One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It > >> is natural to say if the loaf is brown, instead of tap the bottom of > >> a loaf of bread to see if it is done. And it does take some practice > >> to feel the edge of a pizza shell to tell if the pizza is done > >> because there is no way of tapping it to see if it is hollow. For > me, > >> I don't post a recipe, unless I have made it at one time or the > >> other.Lately, out of laziness I been using the crockpot with their > >> liners that can be picked up at most any grocery store for about > >> fifty cents a piece. And for the cleanup it saves and time, I feel > >> that 50 cent is well worth the cost. If some one has a question on a > >> recipe, they should ask for a clarification , instead of > complaining > >> because the recipe doesn't suit them the way it was presented. > >> And to tell some one, it takes this exact time is a joke, it is a > >> estimate, for example the recipe on the lasagna I posted yesterday > >> claims, it take 4 > >> 1/2 hours on low. Not in my crockpot, it takes 3 1/2 hours on low. > >> The only thing I can recommend, is to check your food before the > time > >> a recipe calls for and do it according to taste and feel within the > >> guidelines of the time a recipe calls for. I have found meat is one > >> of the things that time usually is the same if the same temps are > used. > >> A good example is the focaccia (Italian Flat Bread) I made > yesterday, > >> my wife came home and said the bread is brown, better take it out > >> before it burns. I did, knowing full well it wasn't, but also knew I > >> could and
[CnD] Hamilton Beach
I like Hamilton Beach products. I have a hamilton Beach hand mixer and like it a lot plus an ice tea maker. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Platinum
Hmm, that sounds like a nice one. i have the Elete model and it’s easy to use. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:23 PM, shirley baker wrote: > Someone wanted to know the model I have of the Keurig and it is the platinum. > It's pretty expensive but worth the money to me. I got this second one from > www.keurig.com but it was free because of the reasons I stated in another > message. The first one I got was from Bed, Bath and Beyond but it didn't > have all the features that my second one has and the model I have now has a > 65 ounce water reservoir. You can also get these at www.qvc.com and you get > k-cups with your machine. They also have a Keurig machine called the Vue but > I think it is digital but it has a milk frother on it and you can do things > with that that you cannot do with the ones that use k-cups. They have a > different kind of cup they use for those machines. > Shirley > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Hamilton Beach
I didn't know they made ice tea makers. I think mine's by Mr. Coffee; it makes two quarts of tea that I make in advance and chill in the fridge, since would mean using all my ice at once otherwise. There's a place at the bottom of the hard plastic pitcher that a part of the reservoir aparatus fits into. If these parts aren't together, the on process won't start. How does the Hamilton Beach work? - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:29 PM Subject: [CnD] Hamilton Beach I like Hamilton Beach products. I have a hamilton Beach hand mixer and like it a lot plus an ice tea maker. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Platinum
Shirley, Do you know which model of the platinum you have? Would be very interested. Thanks Drew -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of shirley baker Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:23 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: [CnD] Platinum Someone wanted to know the model I have of the Keurig and it is the platinum. It's pretty expensive but worth the money to me. I got this second one from www.keurig.com but it was free because of the reasons I stated in another message. The first one I got was from Bed, Bath and Beyond but it didn't have all the features that my second one has and the model I have now has a 65 ounce water reservoir. You can also get these at www.qvc.com and you get k-cups with your machine. They also have a Keurig machine called the Vue but I think it is digital but it has a milk frother on it and you can do things with that that you cannot do with the ones that use k-cups. They have a different kind of cup they use for those machines. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Platinum
The Platenum is the model. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:56 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Platinum Shirley, Do you know which model of the platinum you have? Would be very interested. Thanks Drew -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of shirley baker Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:23 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: [CnD] Platinum Someone wanted to know the model I have of the Keurig and it is the platinum. It's pretty expensive but worth the money to me. I got this second one from www.keurig.com but it was free because of the reasons I stated in another message. The first one I got was from Bed, Bath and Beyond but it didn't have all the features that my second one has and the model I have now has a 65 ounce water reservoir. You can also get these at www.qvc.com and you get k-cups with your machine. They also have a Keurig machine called the Vue but I think it is digital but it has a milk frother on it and you can do things with that that you cannot do with the ones that use k-cups. They have a different kind of cup they use for those machines. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Hamilton Beach ice tea maker
I too have that ice tea maker. What is your favorite tea to make in there? Malaina Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:29 PM, "shirley baker" wrote: > > I like Hamilton Beach products. I have a hamilton Beach hand mixer and like > it a lot plus an ice tea maker. > Shirley > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] About Coffee Makers
If it is true that they don't last all that long, at that high price, are they worth it? I bought a popcorn popper about 20 years ago that gave up the ghost roughly a month ago. Not bad for $25. I bought a replacement this month from www.amazon.com for not much more than the cost of the original, which I found surprising. As for any merchandise, the excuse that "things aren't made like they once were" is not a valid excuse for charging very high prices. Fact is, they should cost less due to that fact. Make them cheap, sell them cheap but sell a ton of them and make more money. Or make them cheap, sell them high to make people think they're well made with quality, and sell 1 or two to a customer who then tells others of their experience, and then don't sell all that many in the future. Eventually go out of business due to a lack of sales based on word of previous customer mouths. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: [CnD] About Coffee Makers I've heard people say their machine doesn't last a long time but they're not meant to last forever. You all know things aren't necessarily made as good as they used to be but I'd still buy another one anytime. I hate measuring out coffee, hate to have to clean up afterwards. I really love the convenience of these machines. You can buy the very small ones at around $99 and if you like to watch QVC, they run specials on them. I got my second machine free because I'd hat it less than a year but something happened to the K-cup holder so I got it free. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
Actually I like the echobrew better then the my k cup. It seems a little sturdier Then the my k cup. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of melissa Green Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:29 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread the 70 dollar one sounds like a good one. You can also buy the my kay cup attachment. I like the fact that there is also other things like tea and cider. Its another tool. I will get one when I have the money. lol! Best, Melissa R Green Hold fast to dreams, For if dreams die Life is a broken-winged bird, That cannot fly. Langston Hughes - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Chambers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread The cost of the Keurig machines vary. The one I have was on sale and cost about seventy dollars. The reservoir holds enough water for about seven or eight cups, which is convenient if you have several friends over, and each wants a different type of coffee. This machine is perfect for someone who has arthritis or other hand and arm conditions that make it difficult to lift a heavy pot of coffee. It's also great for those who only want one cup of coffee a day. Yes, it's expensive, but if you shop Amazon and other such places, you can find sales on K-cups. For the first couple years of the Keurig's production, I stated flatly that I would not buy one. Then I saw one in operation, and how convenient it was, and I bought one! I'm not a heavy coffee drinker, so this is perfect for me. The variety of K-cups is expanding all the time, and I love to try flavors I wouldn't otherwise buy. If I buy a flavor I discover I don't like, I have plenty of Keurig owners who are happy to take the coffee off my hands. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > It's obvious that these machines have a lot of ardent followers, because > they come up frequently here. The Keurig seems to be the one most often > touted, and I have to admit that I didn't know there were any other > options > out there because the other ones (like yours) hasn't been mentioned. (Not > that I read all the messages, as I'm not a coffee drinker) > I would suspect that Consumer Reports might have a comparison article on > these machines, and if they don't it'd make a great suggestion for them. > And > since Consumer Reports is one of the magazines the nls does in audio for > each issue it's available for folks to access, too. There's the option of > searching EBSCOHost too if your local library offers it as an online > database, (many do as it's a popular resource) so that's another search > vector for this information. > Though I sympathize with your desire to get substantive information on > this > and other topics, there's going to be a lot of opinion expressed, both on > and off topic, as folks tend to be highly enamored with their own opinions > these days. Best to ignore the worst offenders or filter them out of your > reading preferences, as it's inevitable that some folks aren't going to > get > along with everyone. I know it's frustrating, but that's life on the > internet. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >> On Behalf Of Shannon Hannah >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:09 AM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but anyone >> on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the costs of >> each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made for one of >> these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my Tassimo. >> Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed back on the >> machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I guess When I say >> feed back I mean for example, which ones are the best for flavour or >> value, how do they work, do they make a good cup of coffee, where are >> the best deals or would you ever buy one again. >> Shannon >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Charles Rivard >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >> >> Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There >> should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they >> are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. >> It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price >> for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, >> could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. >> This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. >> >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >> finished, you! really! are! fi
Re: [CnD] Platinum
Actually there a couple different models of the platinum. The ones I saw when I looked cor a couple of minutes are the plantnum 65, platinum 70, and platinum 75. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Walt Cone Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:03 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Platinum The Platenum is the model. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:56 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Platinum Shirley, Do you know which model of the platinum you have? Would be very interested. Thanks Drew -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of shirley baker Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:23 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: [CnD] Platinum Someone wanted to know the model I have of the Keurig and it is the platinum. It's pretty expensive but worth the money to me. I got this second one from www.keurig.com but it was free because of the reasons I stated in another message. The first one I got was from Bed, Bath and Beyond but it didn't have all the features that my second one has and the model I have now has a 65 ounce water reservoir. You can also get these at www.qvc.com and you get k-cups with your machine. They also have a Keurig machine called the Vue but I think it is digital but it has a milk frother on it and you can do things with that that you cannot do with the ones that use k-cups. They have a different kind of cup they use for those machines. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
That's a good suggestion. Although I do not automatically delete recipes from the web with no thought into their posting to this list, I very much appreciate those that have tips for blind people that have been tried by blind posters who know what they're talking about through firsthand experience. To me, those have the most value. Someone, in a reply to my original post, said that I should not complain about recipes that are not written in a format that I like. That person totally missed my point. If all this list was was a place from which to collect recipes from the Internet, there would be nothing special about the list, as there are probably thousands of such lists available. My point is that we have gotten away from the original purpose of the list. The examples I gave in the original post were exactly that, not real recipes, but examples of what I have seen. Someone requests a recipe for a type of food, and people rush right out and find recipes on the Internet, copies them to their clipboard, pastes them into a reply, and sends them, as compared to someone actually typing a recipe they have tried as a blind person that includes tricks and tips to assist other blind people in creating the recipe successfully. We cannot learn from each other by pasting Internet search results, but we can use our firsthand experiences to teach others, which was the list's original intent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Nicole Massey" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed What might help is for folks to put the status of a recipe at the top of it when they send it. Things like "I've made this several times", "I made this once", "I got this from this mailing list and haven't tried it, but other blind folks have", and "I found this on the net and haven't tried it yet" can be helpful in letting folks determine what level of blind-friendliness conversion has been done to a recipe. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Chambers Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of this type of dish." I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and those people have actually tried. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it > deals with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of > craft and art to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact > same recipe crashes and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the > cook can understand the variables is often key to turning out a great > meal. > My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts > to make bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix > crashed to one degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread > Machine Baker and got > adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her > banana bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because we'd > had some crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior roommates > had some abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found > out that the jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", > doesn't have anything about getting yeast to room temperature before > using it. The cinnamon bread she made last night came out perfect, and > will make a wonderful bread for French Toast. What clued me in was her > only successful bread was the Irish Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas > gathering last weekend, and we opened the bread machine yeast to make it, so it was already at room temperature. > Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and the > answer presented itself. > (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above > recipes you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and please > start a new thread instead of just replying to this one) > >> -Original Message- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark- boun...@acbradio.org] >> On Behalf Of RJ >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:56 PM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed >> >> One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It >> is natur
Re: [CnD] Hamilton Beach
I have a 14 cup capacity "big mouth" food processor from Hamilton Beach that, although I don't use it very often, I do like. I like the fact that it is extremely quick, and it has a large capacity. You don't have to cut foods in very small pieces to begin with, as the name implies. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:29 PM Subject: [CnD] Hamilton Beach I like Hamilton Beach products. I have a hamilton Beach hand mixer and like it a lot plus an ice tea maker. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
[CnD] Answers to Questions
The Hamilton Beach iced tea maker I have is one of those where you have to line the pitcher with the maker so the water doesn't go all over your counter top. I just use the family size tea bags in there; just black tea as far as I know. I still think the Keurig is worth the price and I've had mine for over two years now. I would get another one in a heartbeat the next time it went out and I would probably call Keurig to get it if it wasn't out of warranty. I think the secret is to clean it often. If this second one goes out, I will just remove the K-cup holder and put it on the first machine and use it until that one goes out. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
I agree with your suggestion. That would indeed be very helpful. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Charles Rivard wrote: > That's a good suggestion. Although I do not automatically delete recipes > from the web with no thought into their posting to this list, I very much > appreciate those that have tips for blind people that have been tried by > blind posters who know what they're talking about through firsthand > experience. To me, those have the most value. > > Someone, in a reply to my original post, said that I should not complain > about recipes that are not written in a format that I like. That person > totally missed my point. If all this list was was a place from which to > collect recipes from the Internet, there would be nothing special about the > > list, as there are probably thousands of such lists available. My point is > > that we have gotten away from the original purpose of the list. The > examples I gave in the original post were exactly that, not real recipes, > but examples of what I have seen. Someone requests a recipe for a type of > food, and people rush right out and find recipes on the Internet, copies > them to their clipboard, pastes them into a reply, and sends them, as > compared to someone actually typing a recipe they have tried as a blind > person that includes tricks and tips to assist other blind people in > creating the recipe successfully. We cannot learn from each other by > pasting Internet search results, but we can use our firsthand experiences to > > teach others, which was the list's original intent. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: "Nicole Massey" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed > > >> What might help is for folks to put the status of a recipe at the top of >> it >> when they send it. Things like "I've made this several times", "I made >> this >> once", "I got this from this mailing list and haven't tried it, but other >> blind folks have", and "I found this on the net and haven't tried it yet" >> can be helpful in letting folks determine what level of >> blind-friendliness >> conversion has been done to a recipe. >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >>> On Behalf Of Jennifer Chambers >>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12 PM >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed >>> >>> I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and >>> methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing >>> things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes >>> they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount >>> of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, >>> we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a >>> recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of >>> this type of dish." >>> >>> I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and >>> those people have actually tried. >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: >>> > It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it >>> > deals with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of >>> > craft and art to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact >>> > same recipe crashes and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the >>> > cook can understand the variables is often key to turning out a great >>> > meal. >>> > My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts >>> > to make bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix >>> > crashed to one degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread >>> > Machine Baker and got >>> > adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her >>> > banana bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because >>> we'd >>> > had some crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior >>> roommates >>> > had some abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found >>> > out that the jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", >>> > doesn't have anything about getting yeast to room temperature before >>> > using it. The cinnamon bread she made last night came out perfect, >>> and >>> > will make a wonderful bread for French Toast. What clued me in was >>> her >>> > only successful bread was the Irish Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas >>> > gathering last weekend, and we opened the bread machine yeast to make >>> it, so it was already at room temperature. >>> > Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and >>> the >>> > answer presented itself. >>> > (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above >>> > recipes you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and >>> please >>> > s
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
Anyone who wants a list where all recipes tried or from the web are welcome to send a blank e-mail to blindrecipeexchange-subscr...@yahoogroups.com and join my group. All recipes are welcome. Greg -Original Message- From: Jennifer Chambers Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:12 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of this type of dish." I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and those people have actually tried. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it deals with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of craft and art to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact same recipe crashes and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the cook can understand the variables is often key to turning out a great meal. My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts to make bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix crashed to one degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread Machine Baker and got adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her banana bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because we'd had some crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior roommates had some abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found out that the jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", doesn't have anything about getting yeast to room temperature before using it. The cinnamon bread she made last night came out perfect, and will make a wonderful bread for French Toast. What clued me in was her only successful bread was the Irish Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas gathering last weekend, and we opened the bread machine yeast to make it, so it was already at room temperature. Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and the answer presented itself. (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above recipes you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and please start a new thread instead of just replying to this one) -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:56 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It is natural to say if the loaf is brown, instead of tap the bottom of a loaf of bread to see if it is done. And it does take some practice to feel the edge of a pizza shell to tell if the pizza is done because there is no way of tapping it to see if it is hollow. For me, I don't post a recipe, unless I have made it at one time or the other.Lately, out of laziness I been using the crockpot with their liners that can be picked up at most any grocery store for about fifty cents a piece. And for the cleanup it saves and time, I feel that 50 cent is well worth the cost. If some one has a question on a recipe, they should ask for a clarification , instead of complaining because the recipe doesn't suit them the way it was presented. And to tell some one, it takes this exact time is a joke, it is a estimate, for example the recipe on the lasagna I posted yesterday claims, it take 4 1/2 hours on low. Not in my crockpot, it takes 3 1/2 hours on low. The only thing I can recommend, is to check your food before the time a recipe calls for and do it according to taste and feel within the guidelines of the time a recipe calls for. I have found meat is one of the things that time usually is the same if the same temps are used. A good example is the focaccia (Italian Flat Bread) I made yesterday, my wife came home and said the bread is brown, better take it out before it burns. I did, knowing full well it wasn't, but also knew I could and i did put it back in the oven to finish baking, which I did about 1/2 hours later, after she told me that the Focaccia isn't done. RJ - Original Message - From: "Mike and jean" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed >I can see your point as I too do like to know exactly how to tell when >something is done. I have, however, been guilty of sending recipes >that I have not tried. I will try to stick to things that I have had >experience with as this may be more beneficial to others on the list. >There are some great cooks on this list and
Re: [CnD] About Coffee Makers
I've had my Keurig for a couple years and never had a problem with it. A co-worker has had hers since they first started making these machines, and she uses hers daily; no problems. Yes, this machine is worth it. As my hands deteriorate, and lifting heavy caraffes becomes more difficult, the Keurig is worth every penny. Like Shirley, if mine goes out, I'll buy another one. Each of us has his/her own reason for purchasing things. For me, the Keurig means I don't have to lift a heavy coffeepot. For Shirley, the Keurig means she doesn't have to fuss with measuring and cleaning up the coffee grounds, and so on. Such things are not important to others, but they are to us, and I say thank you to the ones who came up with the design for this fantastic machine! . Jennifer On 2/9/14, Charles Rivard wrote: > If it is true that they don't last all that long, at that high price, are > they worth it? > > I bought a popcorn popper about 20 years ago that gave up the ghost roughly > > a month ago. Not bad for $25. I bought a replacement this month from > > www.amazon.com > > for not much more than the cost of the original, which I found surprising. > > As for any merchandise, the excuse that "things aren't made like they once > were" is not a valid excuse for charging very high prices. Fact is, they > should cost less due to that fact. Make them cheap, sell them cheap but > sell a ton of them and make more money. Or make them cheap, sell them high > > to make people think they're well made with quality, and sell 1 or two to a > > customer who then tells others of their experience, and then don't sell all > > that many in the future. Eventually go out of business due to a lack of > sales based on word of previous customer mouths. > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: "shirley baker" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 PM > Subject: [CnD] About Coffee Makers > > >> I've heard people say their machine doesn't last a long time but they're >> not meant to last forever. You all know things aren't necessarily made as >> >> good as they used to be but I'd still buy another one anytime. I hate >> measuring out coffee, hate to have to clean up afterwards. I really love >> >> the convenience of these machines. You can buy the very small ones at >> around $99 and if you like to watch QVC, they run specials on them. I got >> >> my second machine free because I'd hat it less than a year but something >> happened to the K-cup holder so I got it free. >> Shirley >> ___ >> Cookinginthedark mailing list >> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
Greg, thanks for this! Right now, I am over two thousand messages behind with Cooking in the Dark list, (I've managed to shrink it from over three thousand). Once I'm caught up, I will join your group. Jennifer On 2/9/14, ncboot...@gmail.com wrote: > Anyone who wants a list where all recipes tried or from the web are welcome > > to send a blank e-mail to blindrecipeexchange-subscr...@yahoogroups.com and > > join my group. All recipes are welcome. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Jennifer Chambers > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:12 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed > > I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and > methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing > things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes > they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount > of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, > we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a > recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of > this type of dish." > > I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and > those people have actually tried. > > Jennifer > > On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: >> It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it deals >> with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of craft and >> art >> to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact same recipe >> crashes >> and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the cook can understand the >> variables is often key to turning out a great meal. >> My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts to >> make >> bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix crashed to >> one >> degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread Machine Baker and got >> adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her banana >> bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because we'd had some >> crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior roommates had some >> abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found out that the >> jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", doesn't have >> anything >> about getting yeast to room temperature before using it. The cinnamon >> bread >> she made last night came out perfect, and will make a wonderful bread for >> French Toast. What clued me in was her only successful bread was the >> Irish >> Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas gathering last weekend, and we opened >> the >> bread machine yeast to make it, so it was already at room temperature. >> Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and the >> answer presented itself. >> (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above recipes >> you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and please start a >> new >> thread instead of just replying to this one) >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >>> On Behalf Of RJ >>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:56 PM >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed >>> >>> One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It is >>> natural to say if the loaf is brown, instead of tap the bottom of a >>> loaf of bread to see if it is done. And it does take some practice to >>> feel the edge of a pizza shell to tell if the pizza is done because >>> there is no way of tapping it to see if it is hollow. For me, I don't >>> post a recipe, unless I have made it at one time or the other.Lately, >>> out of laziness I been using the crockpot with their liners that can be >>> picked up at most any grocery store for about fifty cents a piece. And >>> for the cleanup it saves and time, I feel that 50 cent is well worth >>> the cost. If some one has a question on a recipe, they should ask for >>> a clarification , instead of complaining because the recipe doesn't >>> suit them the way it was presented. >>> And to tell some one, it takes this exact time is a joke, it is a >>> estimate, for example the recipe on the lasagna I posted yesterday >>> claims, it take 4 >>> 1/2 hours on low. Not in my crockpot, it takes 3 1/2 hours on low. The >>> only thing I can recommend, is to check your food before the time a >>> recipe calls for and do it according to taste and feel within the >>> guidelines of the time a recipe calls for. I have found meat is one of >>> the things that time usually is the same if the same temps are used. >>> A good example is the focaccia (Italian Flat Bread) I made yesterday, >>> my wife came home and said the bread is brown, better take it out >>> before it burns. I did, knowing full well it wasn't, but also knew I >>> could and i did put it back in the oven to finish baking, which I did >>> about 1/2 hours later, after
Re: [CnD] Bulk dried yeast
Yeast does require a delicate balance of temperature; too cool, and the yeast won't react; too hot, and the temperature will kill the yeast. Yeast actually reacts to sugar. For instance, in the recipe I have for pizza dough, it says to sprinkle the yeast over the warm water, stir in a tablespoon sugar; let stand about ten minutes. You'll know it's ready for the flour and salt when the mixture forms little bubbles on top. (For those who are totally blind, lightly touch the surface of the liquid, and you can feel the little bubbles.) Jennifer On 2/9/14, RJ wrote: > here is some thing I learned over the years of using bulk yeast. Put the > yeast in the freezer after opening. Will last up to two years. might last > longer, but never had yeast more than two years. If making bread by hand and > > not a machine. Have the water hot, I get mine out of a hot water dispenser > (180 degrees F). Put in a cup of flour and stir well. Make sure the temp is > > under 115 degrees and add the yeast, than continue with your recipe. It > appears the yeast works faster. > RJ > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig
It takes roughly fifteen to twenty seconds to make a cup. Jennifer On 2/8/14, Lois Goodine wrote: > They are expensive. You can pay as much as $120 afor them; but you can also > > watch for sales and coupons and do much better than that. I love mine. I > think I ended up putting out eighty some dollars after buying the little > coffee holder and paying ssales taxes. > Lois Goodine. > - Original Message - > From: "Maria" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:22 PM > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig > > >> Hi Shirley, >> >> I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for some time >> >> now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have one question. >> >> Do you know how much they cost? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Maria >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "shirley baker" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:41 PM >> Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig >> >> >>>I like the Keurig (one cup coffee maker) because it's always fresh, no >>>stale coffee, no measuring, can drink tea, cocoa, hot apple cider, >>>lemonade and not always just coffee. Just to let you know also, you're >>>not supposed to put coffee grounds in the garbage disposal. I had some >>>reputable person from Sears to tell me never to do that. >>> Shirley >>> ___ >>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >> >> ___ >> Cookinginthedark mailing list >> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
[CnD] Slow Cooker Question
Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any crockpots that have timers or can be programmed to go off at a certain time. If so, are they easy to use for blind people? I'd be interested in something like that. Will ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
[CnD] summer camps
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Re: [CnD] summer camps
Check on general chat lists. You're more likely to find info where it is appropriate. HTH. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Louise Ervin" To: "Post" Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:38 PM Subject: [CnD] summer camps Has anyone seen or does anyone know where I might find announcements regarding summer camp? ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig
Sheesh! How can it make a cup of coffee that quickly? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Chambers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig It takes roughly fifteen to twenty seconds to make a cup. Jennifer On 2/8/14, Lois Goodine wrote: They are expensive. You can pay as much as $120 afor them; but you can also watch for sales and coupons and do much better than that. I love mine. I think I ended up putting out eighty some dollars after buying the little coffee holder and paying ssales taxes. Lois Goodine. - Original Message - From: "Maria" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig Hi Shirley, I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for some time now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have one question. Do you know how much they cost? Thanks for your help. Maria - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig I like the Keurig (one cup coffee maker) because it's always fresh, no stale coffee, no measuring, can drink tea, cocoa, hot apple cider, lemonade and not always just coffee. Just to let you know also, you're not supposed to put coffee grounds in the garbage disposal. I had some reputable person from Sears to tell me never to do that. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
Well, I think the cheaper one cup coffee makers that use regular coffee and you have to measure it are better for your money and I think they make good coffee. I'm not a coffee snob, but I drink several cups a day and that's why I think these kind are more economical and you always have a fresh cup and they take less counter space than bigger one cup or 30-cup coffee makers. And any special coffee pods,or whatever, tasemo, keurig, senseo, whatever, are more money than the way I do it. But that's my opinion and if people ask about keurig type machines, that's what I tell them. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Hannah Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:09 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but anyone on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the costs of each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made for one of these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my Tassimo. Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed back on the machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I guess When I say feed back I mean for example, which ones are the best for flavour or value, how do they work, do they make a good cup of coffee, where are the best deals or would you ever buy one again. Shannon -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, they are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not buy one. It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not pay that price for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, if I so chose, could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang for the buck. This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and should be on topic. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Shannon Hannah" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >I have been reading the conversations on the subject of one cup coffee >makers and I even commented on it talking about my Tassimo. I think the >original question to the list was someone asking about individual coffee >makers and advice on a good drip coffee maker. > I don't want to sound disrespectful but I don't think it helps when > someone is interested in may be purchasing one of these coffee machines > and is asking for advice and many responses are not about the machine but > how expensive it is and that they would never purchase one. To me that > isn't helpful and in a way you are telling others who have these machines > or are wanting to purchase one that they have wasted there money. Which of > coarse it is there money to waste. Sorry if I have gone over the line and > offended anyone because this is not my intention just an observation. > Shannon > -Original Message- > From: Charles Rivard > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:03 AM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig > > If I were a coffee drinker, these would be far, far to expensive for > something that makes a single cup at a time. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > finished, > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: "Maria" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig > > >> Hi Shirley, >> >> I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for some >> time now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have one >> question. Do you know how much they cost? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Maria >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "shirley baker" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:41 PM >> Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig >> >> >>>I like the Keurig (one cup coffee maker) because it's always fresh, >>>no >>>stale coffee, no measuring, can drink tea, cocoa, hot apple cider, >>>lemonade and not always just coffee. Just to let you know also, you're >>>not supposed to put coffee grounds in the garbage disposal. I had some >>>reputable person from Sears to tell me never to do that. >>> Shirley >>> ___ >>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >> >> ___ >> Cookinginthedark mailing list >> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookingin
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread
That's a good coffee maker for just that reason. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Brandt Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:23 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread Last week HSN was showing my machine, the Flex Brew by Hamilton Beach that I bought a year or so ago from Amazon. There it cost $49. It does one cup at a time, and can handle Senseo pods, K-cups, or regular coffee. - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Chambers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread > The cost of the Keurig machines vary. The one I have was on sale and > cost about seventy dollars. The reservoir holds enough water for > about seven or eight cups, which is convenient if you have several > friends over, and each wants a different type of coffee. This machine > is perfect for someone who has arthritis or other hand and arm > conditions that make it difficult to lift a heavy pot of coffee. It's > also great for those who only want one cup of coffee a day. > > Yes, it's expensive, but if you shop Amazon and other such places, you > can find sales on K-cups. > > For the first couple years of the Keurig's production, I stated flatly > that I would not buy one. Then I saw one in operation, and how > convenient it was, and I bought one! I'm not a heavy coffee drinker, > so this is perfect for me. The variety of K-cups is expanding all the > time, and I love to try flavors I wouldn't otherwise buy. If I buy a > flavor I discover I don't like, I have plenty of Keurig owners who are > happy to take the coffee off my hands. > > Jennifer > > On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: >> It's obvious that these machines have a lot of ardent followers, >> because they come up frequently here. The Keurig seems to be the one >> most often touted, and I have to admit that I didn't know there were >> any other options out there because the other ones (like yours) >> hasn't been mentioned. (Not that I read all the messages, as I'm not >> a coffee drinker) I would suspect that Consumer Reports might have a >> comparison article on these machines, and if they don't it'd make a >> great suggestion for them. And >> since Consumer Reports is one of the magazines the nls does in audio for >> each issue it's available for folks to access, too. There's the option of >> searching EBSCOHost too if your local library offers it as an online >> database, (many do as it's a popular resource) so that's another search >> vector for this information. >> Though I sympathize with your desire to get substantive information on >> this >> and other topics, there's going to be a lot of opinion expressed, both on >> and off topic, as folks tend to be highly enamored with their own >> opinions >> these days. Best to ignore the worst offenders or filter them out of your >> reading preferences, as it's inevitable that some folks aren't going to >> get >> along with everyone. I know it's frustrating, but that's life on the >> internet. >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Cookinginthedark >>> [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >>> On Behalf Of Shannon Hannah >>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:09 AM >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >>> >>> OK so you wouldn't buy one because of the cost. I get that but >>> anyone on this list can seek out the cost of these machines and the >>> costs of each cup of coffee using purchased discs especially made >>> for one of these coffee machines. I know I did before purchasing my >>> Tassimo. Again saying you would not buy one isn't to me giving feed >>> back on the machine as you obviously do not have or want one. I >>> guess When I say feed back I mean for example, which ones are the >>> best for flavour or value, how do they work, do they make a good cup >>> of coffee, where are the best deals or would you ever buy one again. >>> Shannon >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Charles Rivard >>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:37 AM >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig thread >>> >>> Opinions on the machines should be allowed, don't you think? There >>> should be no problems with someone stating that, in their opinion, >>> they are overpriced. I, for one, am not saying that you should not >>> buy one. It's your money. Do with it as you choose. I would not >>> pay that price for a coffee maker that makes 1 cup at a time when, >>> if I so chose, could get a 30 cup coffee brewer for less. More bang >>> for the buck. This might have a bearing on what someone buys, and >>> should be on topic. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >>> finished, you! really! are! finished! >>> - Original Mes
Re: [CnD] summer camps
Where are you located? -Original Message- From: Louise Ervin Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:38 PM To: Post Subject: [CnD] summer camps Has anyone seen or does anyone know where I might find announcements regarding summer camp? ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig
I don't know the mechanics of it, but it does, and it's darn good coffee! . Jennifer On 2/9/14, Charles Rivard wrote: > Sheesh! How can it make a cup of coffee that quickly? > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: "Jennifer Chambers" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:25 PM > Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig > > >> It takes roughly fifteen to twenty seconds to make a cup. >> >> Jennifer >> >> On 2/8/14, Lois Goodine wrote: >>> They are expensive. You can pay as much as $120 afor them; but you can >>> also >>> >>> watch for sales and coupons and do much better than that. I love mine. >>> I >>> think I ended up putting out eighty some dollars after buying the little >>> coffee holder and paying ssales taxes. >>> Lois Goodine. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Maria" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig >>> >>> Hi Shirley, I've been thinking about getting a 1-cup Keurig Coffey maker for some time now. I love the variety of beverages it can handle. I have one question. Do you know how much they cost? Thanks for your help. Maria - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: [CnD] Reasons Why I Like the Keurig >I like the Keurig (one cup coffee maker) because it's always fresh, no >stale coffee, no measuring, can drink tea, cocoa, hot apple cider, >lemonade and not always just coffee. Just to let you know also, you're >not supposed to put coffee grounds in the garbage disposal. I had some >reputable person from Sears to tell me never to do that. > Shirley > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>> >>> ___ >>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>> >> ___ >> Cookinginthedark mailing list >> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Slow Cooker Question
The only one I ever seen is the one I can't figure out. To use it, my sighted wife has to set it. Don't know the name of it and haven't seen it in years, seeing I do most of the cooking and told her to get rid of it. - Original Message - From: "Will Henderson" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:37 PM Subject: [CnD] Slow Cooker Question Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any crockpots that have timers or can be programmed to go off at a certain time. If so, are they easy to use for blind people? I'd be interested in something like that. Will ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how do you build a hot-dog? - Re: HOTDOG CHILLY
This is an older topic, but I'm behind in reading e-mail. I put condiments on the bottom part of the bun, as well as the top. I don't have any trouble with soggy bread. I abhor soggy bread. I use mayonnaise, a little ketchup, and sweet pickle relish. I put enough on to cover the surface of the halves. Then I add the hotdog, and, if in the mood, some bread and butter pickles, (which are sweet). Before preparing the hotdog bun, I slice the hotdog in half, sprinkle a little onion powder on the cut sides, a little pepper, then place the hotdog cut-side down in a pan. I heat it about a minute or so, until it smells grilled. I then turn the hotdog skin-side down, brush a little barbecue sauce over the cut surface, and cook it a minute more. Turn off the flame, and place some cheese so it lines the cut sides that are facing up. Turn the flame back on for about ten or fifteen seconds, turn it off and leave the pan on the stove while I prepare the hotdog bun. Then I carefully carry the pan to the counter, slide the hotdog onto a spatula and transfer it to the bun. Jennifer On 9/6/13, Sandy wrote: > You are doing fine! Remember! Fingers came before forks! Practice makes > perfect! > > Courage is Fear that has said its prayers. > > > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On > Behalf Of Will Henderson > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 2:35 AM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] how do you build a hot-dog? - Re: HOTDOG CHILLY > > > Hello everyone, > > I just wanted to let you guys know that I decided to put into use these > ideas that you have begun giving me regarding doing more and trying more > for > myself regarding the food and such. > > I was hungry and made myself make a couple of hot dogs for myself and > actually build them or put stuff on them. > I did build the hot dogs, but I have to say they were definitely messy. I > made myself put plenty of mustard and katsup for taste, because sometimes > the katsup I'd put on them would barely be any. > I think I'd overdone the squeezing, but I tried spreading it out or evening > it out. > No way I couldn't go without getting my fingers messy. > I definitely ate the hot dogs though. > > > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On > Behalf Of Charles Rivard > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 10:58 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] how do you build a hot-dog? - Re: HOTDOG CHILLY > > Practice and experimentation. I never really thought about it. I don't > put > a lot on my hot-dogs, either, but that's because I'm more of a meat eater, > and that's what I want to stand out. Hot-dogs right out of a meat smoker > are really great. If you know how much relish you like, measure it with a > spoon, plop it in the center, then try to spread it evenly with the spoon. > Or maybe drag the squeeze bottle of ketchup or mustard along as you > squeeze. > > HTH. > > -- > If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling > errors! > - Original Message - > From: "Will Henderson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: [CnD] how do you build a hot-dog? - Re: HOTDOG CHILLY > > >> This is good to know. I enjoy a good hot dog, but I've found myself >> incredibly conservative when it comes to putting anything on >> it...making a mess or soggy bread. >> Do you have any good tips or techniques for adding condiments and such? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >> On Behalf Of Charles Rivard >> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:50 PM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] how do you build a hot-dog? - Re: HOTDOG CHILLY >> >> That's another reason why I don't do it. I hate soggy bread! >> >> -- >> If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling >> errors! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Sandy" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 3:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [CnD] how do you build a hot-dog? - Re: HOTDOG CHILLY >> >> >>> Also, putting the condiments and chili in the bottom of the bun would >>> make it soggy. >>> >>> Courage is Fear that has said its prayers. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] >>> On Behalf Of Charles Rivard >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:07 PM >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> Subject: [CnD] how do you build a hot-dog? - Re: HOTDOG CHILLY >>> >>> >>> This brings up another topic, so I changed the subject line accordingly. >>> Here's the topic to discuss if you choose: >>> >>> When building a hot-dog, do you put the wiener into the open bun, and >>> then add the condiments? Or do you put the condiments into the open >>> bun and then >>> >>> put the wiener on top? >>> >>> I put the wiener into the bun, and then add the condi
[CnD] White Sour Cream Cake
I made this recipe yesterday for a family get together. I used Greek yogurt in stead of the sour cream. The batter was really thick which was great because I was making medium size cup cakes and using a small spoon it was very easy to fill the cup cake papers. I thought as the batter was so thick the cupcakes might of been heavy but they turned out great. Moist and light. I did have sour cream but I prefer using yogurt. The recipe is pasted below. White Sour Cream Cake 2 cups flour 2 teaspoons Baking powder 1 teaspoon Baking soda 1/2 teaspoon Salt 1/2 cup Shortening 1 cup White sugar 2Eggs (beaten well) 1/2 teaspoon Vanilla 1 cup Sour cream Sift flour, baking powder and salt together. Cream shortening and sugar, and well beaten eggs and vanilla and mix well. Dissolve baking soda in mixture alternately with sifted dry ingredients. Bake in greased 8 inch layer cake pans 20 to 25 minutes at 350. ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Hamilton Beach ice tea maker
My regular tea mix is one family sized tea bag and one Bigelow Constant Comment tea bag, but I like my tea a bit thinner than most folks. I'd suggest doubling the tea bags for those wanting strong tea. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Malaina VanderWal > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:03 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] Hamilton Beach ice tea maker > > I too have that ice tea maker. What is your favorite tea to make in > there? > Malaina > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:29 PM, "shirley baker" > wrote: > > > > I like Hamilton Beach products. I have a hamilton Beach hand mixer > and like it a lot plus an ice tea maker. > > Shirley > > ___ > > Cookinginthedark mailing list > > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Banana Oat Bread
Note that this recipe crashed, probably due to cold yeast. I suspect it will come out better next time. Banana Oat Bread 2 teaspoons (1/2 package) yeast - room temperature 2 cups bread flour 1 cup quick or rolled oats 1 tablespoon sugar 1 teaspoon salt 2 tablespoons light vegetable oil 1 egg (optional) 2 medium ripe bananas, mashed 1 cup water Add ingredients in the order listed. Choose crust. Push start. Taken from The Bread Machine Baker by Elizabeth Harbison (not available digitally that I've found) c1995 > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Vincent > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:47 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: [CnD] (no subject) > > Bread machine banana bread recipe Nicole I would like this recipe as > well. > thx > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Bread machine cinnamon bread
This was an interesting bread. The roommate doesn't do raisins, but she plans to add cranberries the next time she makes this. I think it'd be wonderful as the bread for French toast. Cinnamon Bread 2 teaspoons (1/2 package) yeast - room temperature 2 cups bread flour 2 tablespoons sugar 1 teaspoon salt 2 teaspoon cinnamon 1 tablespoon butter (I softened it before I put it in the machine) 7/8 cup milk 2/3 cup raisins (optional) Add ingredients in the order listed. Choose crust. Push start. To keep the raisins intact, add them at the end of the first kneading. If you prefer the nutritional value without the chewiness, add them at the beginning. Taken from The Bread Machine Baker by Elizabeth Harbison (not available digitally that I've found) c1995 > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of Vincent > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:45 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: [CnD] Bread machine cinnomon bread > > Ok Nicole, following your instruction I have started a new thread > *smile* > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] Slow Cooker Question
I'd think someone would make a simple timer that you could plug any device into and then leave it on for a defined time, though with how digital crazy folks are these days it might be harder to find an accessible one. > -Original Message- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] > On Behalf Of RJ > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:24 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Subject: Re: [CnD] Slow Cooker Question > > The only one I ever seen is the one I can't figure out. To use it, my > sighted wife has to set it. Don't know the name of it and haven't seen > it in years, seeing I do most of the cooking and told her to get rid of > it. > - Original Message - > From: "Will Henderson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:37 PM > Subject: [CnD] Slow Cooker Question > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any crockpots that have > > timers or can be programmed to go off at a certain time. If so, are > > they easy to use for blind people? > > > > I'd be interested in something like that. > > > > Will > > > > > > > > ___ > > Cookinginthedark mailing list > > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > ___ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
Who is the moderator of this list and maintains it? It seems to me there are a lot of new people and i wonder if all of them are visually impaired at all. How can one know this and can just any old joe join the group. Judy - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Chambers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed I agree with your suggestion. That would indeed be very helpful. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Charles Rivard wrote: That's a good suggestion. Although I do not automatically delete recipes from the web with no thought into their posting to this list, I very much appreciate those that have tips for blind people that have been tried by blind posters who know what they're talking about through firsthand experience. To me, those have the most value. Someone, in a reply to my original post, said that I should not complain about recipes that are not written in a format that I like. That person totally missed my point. If all this list was was a place from which to collect recipes from the Internet, there would be nothing special about the list, as there are probably thousands of such lists available. My point is that we have gotten away from the original purpose of the list. The examples I gave in the original post were exactly that, not real recipes, but examples of what I have seen. Someone requests a recipe for a type of food, and people rush right out and find recipes on the Internet, copies them to their clipboard, pastes them into a reply, and sends them, as compared to someone actually typing a recipe they have tried as a blind person that includes tricks and tips to assist other blind people in creating the recipe successfully. We cannot learn from each other by pasting Internet search results, but we can use our firsthand experiences to teach others, which was the list's original intent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Nicole Massey" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed What might help is for folks to put the status of a recipe at the top of it when they send it. Things like "I've made this several times", "I made this once", "I got this from this mailing list and haven't tried it, but other blind folks have", and "I found this on the net and haven't tried it yet" can be helpful in letting folks determine what level of blind-friendliness conversion has been done to a recipe. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Chambers Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of this type of dish." I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and those people have actually tried. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it > deals with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of > craft and art to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact > same recipe crashes and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the > cook can understand the variables is often key to turning out a great > meal. > My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts > to make bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix > crashed to one degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread > Machine Baker and got > adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her > banana bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because we'd > had some crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior roommates > had some abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found > out that the jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", > doesn't have anything about getting yeast to room temperature before > using it. The cinnamon bread she made last night came out perfect, and > will make a wonderful bread for French Toast. What clued me in was her > only successful bread was the Irish Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas > gathering last weekend, and we opened the bread machine yeast to make it, so it was already at room temperature. > Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and the > answer presented itself. > (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for
Re: [CnD] Answers to Questions
I'm not a coffee drinker but i sure do love hot chocolate from my Keurig. When my best friend comes to visit, she uses the coffee. Judy - Original Message - From: "shirley baker" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:47 PM Subject: [CnD] Answers to Questions The Hamilton Beach iced tea maker I have is one of those where you have to line the pitcher with the maker so the water doesn't go all over your counter top. I just use the family size tea bags in there; just black tea as far as I know. I still think the Keurig is worth the price and I've had mine for over two years now. I would get another one in a heartbeat the next time it went out and I would probably call Keurig to get it if it wasn't out of warranty. I think the secret is to clean it often. If this second one goes out, I will just remove the K-cup holder and put it on the first machine and use it until that one goes out. Shirley ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark ___ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
Re: [CnD] how the list has changed
Yes but i've seen recipes taken directly off the net that have that wording before the recipe begins so even if that was written at the first, tain't necessarily true if you know what i mean. Judy - Original Message - From: "Nicole Massey" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed What might help is for folks to put the status of a recipe at the top of it when they send it. Things like "I've made this several times", "I made this once", "I got this from this mailing list and haven't tried it, but other blind folks have", and "I found this on the net and haven't tried it yet" can be helpful in letting folks determine what level of blind-friendliness conversion has been done to a recipe. -Original Message- From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Chambers Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed I definitely understand what all of you are saying about recipes and methods for blind people to determine doneness, and methods of doing things. I do hope, though, that people will continue posting recipes they have found on the Internet, for I have amassed an amazing amount of recipes from this list I might not otherwise have had. Certainly, we can all search for things on the web, but sometimes, I look at a recipe submitted on this list, and I think, "Wow, I never thought of this type of dish." I hope we can continue to have a mixture of recipes from the web, and those people have actually tried. Jennifer On 2/9/14, Nicole Massey wrote: > It's common for folks to want cuisine to be a science, but since it > deals with natural materials much of the time there's still a bit of > craft and art to it. This is why sometimes a dish made with the exact > same recipe crashes and turns out inedible. Knowing the basics so the > cook can understand the variables is often key to turning out a great > meal. > My roommate, who is sighted, dealt with this last week. Two attempts > to make bread in the bread machine using ingredients instead of a mix > crashed to one degree or another. (She found my copy of The Bread > Machine Baker and got > adventurous) The Sour Cream bread she made didn't crown, while her > banana bread didn't rise at all. In talking with her, and because we'd > had some crashes in the past with that bread machine, (prior roommates > had some abject failures) I asked her how she was doing it, and found > out that the jar of yeast, which has "Refrigerate after opening", > doesn't have anything about getting yeast to room temperature before > using it. The cinnamon bread she made last night came out perfect, and > will make a wonderful bread for French Toast. What clued me in was her > only successful bread was the Irish Soda Bread I made for a Candlemas > gathering last weekend, and we opened the bread machine yeast to make it, so it was already at room temperature. > Couple this with my prior experience in viniculture and Mazery and the > answer presented itself. > (Yes, I know what's coming -- if you ask me for any of the above > recipes you'll need to wait for me to get them transcribed, and please > start a new thread instead of just replying to this one) > >> -Original Message- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark- boun...@acbradio.org] >> On Behalf Of RJ >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:56 PM >> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> Subject: Re: [CnD] how the list has changed >> >> One thing I learned over the years is how to interpret a recipe. It >> is natural to say if the loaf is brown, instead of tap the bottom of >> a loaf of bread to see if it is done. And it does take some practice >> to feel the edge of a pizza shell to tell if the pizza is done >> because there is no way of tapping it to see if it is hollow. For me, >> I don't post a recipe, unless I have made it at one time or the >> other.Lately, out of laziness I been using the crockpot with their >> liners that can be picked up at most any grocery store for about >> fifty cents a piece. And for the cleanup it saves and time, I feel >> that 50 cent is well worth the cost. If some one has a question on a >> recipe, they should ask for a clarification , instead of complaining >> because the recipe doesn't suit them the way it was presented. >> And to tell some one, it takes this exact time is a joke, it is a >> estimate, for example the recipe on the lasagna I posted yesterday >> claims, it take 4 >> 1/2 hours on low. Not in my crockpot, it takes 3 1/2 hours on low. >> The only thing I can recommend, is to check your food before the time >> a recipe calls for and do it according to taste and feel within the >> guidelines of the time a recipe calls for. I have found meat is one >> of the things that time usually is the same if the same temps are used. >> A good example is the focaccia (Italian Flat Bread) I m
