[CTRL] Fw: [MC] Maitreya -speech to UN

[Nicky Molloy]

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Date: Sunday, 24 October 1999 18:45
Subject: [MC] Maitreya


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mindcontrol at its worst/best
"But in some cases - high up on the food chain of the covert entity
   running
   UFO secrecy - the two views meet. A place where militarism and
   eschatology merge. Where Star Wars and Armageddon join. "


I wonder if this man is part of their plan?

One World  One Humanity Under One God

http://pw1.netcom.com/~a.friend/page3.htmlBenjamin Creme  studied "
Helena
Blavatsky
and the Theosophical Society, and more recently through Alice A. Bailey 
(Masons) ...these teachings
lead him to believe in the existance of the "Masters of Wisdom"---A group of
perfected
___MEN___ who are the custodians [RULERS?]  of the Divine [NWO?] Plan for
this
Planet


http://www.shareintl.org/maitreya/Ma_main.htm
Who is Maitreya?
"...At this time of great political, economic and social crisis Maitreya
will
  inspire humanity to see itself as one family, and create a
civilization
  based on sharing,[World Communism?] economic and social
justice, and global cooperation. .."

http://mypage.ihost.com/usinet.smkumar/ "All of the Etheric Healing Tools
   are Handcrafted by
Monks and Nuns at the Mt Shasta Center. "

check out the pyramid   at
http://mypage.ihost.com/usinet.smkumar/SHAscensionMeditaionPyramid.gif

http://www.lord-maitreya.org/unitednations.htm  requires free G2 real player
at
http://www.real.com/products/player/index.html?src=404

SEAT stands for the "Society for Enlightenment and Transformation". It is a
group within the
United Nations that comes under the United Nations staff Recreational
  Council. Seat is
involved in prayer groups
  and other activities that help a positive outcome in the work of
the
UN around the
World.

  The Master was invited by the President of SEAT "Jennifer
Borchers"
to speak to
their group at the United
  Nations on the 8th June 1999. The talk began at 1:15pm and lasted
for 40 minutes.
Around 40 people were present. English transcription below by Pablo Romero.




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[CTRL] Fw: [FP] Mosaic-2000 testing and profiling begins in schools

[Nicky Molloy]

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Date: Sunday, 24 October 1999 18:11
Subject: [FP] Mosaic-2000 testing and profiling begins in schools


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10/23/99

Mosaic-2000 testing and profiling begins

--

X DRUDGE REPORT X SATURDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1999 12:45:11 ET X
GOVERNMENT DEVELOPING COMPUTER PROGRAM TO SPOT POTENTIALLY VIOLENT
STUDENTS

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is assisting in the
development of a computer program to help school administrators spot
troubled students who might be near the brink of violence, the NEW YORK
TIMES is reporting in Sunday editions.

The computer program, known as Mosaic-2000, begins testing at more than 20
schools in December -- and the new system will vet and rate potentially
violent students on a scale of 1 to 10!

Francis X. Clines reports in the TIMES:

"The Mosaic school program promises to provide questions carefully crafted
from case histories by 200 experts in law enforcement, psychiatry and other
areas. A variety of concerns beyond alarming talk or behavior will be
included, from the availability of guns to a youngster's abuse of dogs and
cats."

The program, still being formulated, will be tested in grades one through
12.

The software will not be connected to any central data program, the B.A.T.F.
promises.

"I think it's a wonderful tool that has a great deal of potential...,"
Andrew Vita, associate director for field operations of the Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, tells the TIMES.

"It's easy to pick out the gang members with tattoos," adds Vita. "It's
these other people that kind of surprise administrators, and these are the
ones they really need to identify."

[End Drudge Report notice]

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[Comments]

Violence, gangs, rape, metal detectors, ID badges, profiling,
drugs (mostly Prozac & Ritalin), controlled access, uniforms,
and now mental evaluations...

So, which will be the better analogy for schools in the next
millenium: prisons or psychiatric wards?

In my humble opinion, it's the parents that subject their kids to this
garbage who need to have their heads examined.

But then, do you suppose any parent who refuses to have their child
evaluated under "Mosaic-2000" will get a "profile" of their own logged into
some FBI database somewhere?

Figure it out: This is a federally-funded program. Its "success" or failure
will be based upon the number of cases processed. Guess what? If Moasic-2000
doesn't ferret out sufficient numbers of "problem" cases the funding goes
away and federal employees lose their job. I'll bet Mosaic-2000's a
resounding success!

Scott

--

[Another story on the FBI's new Mosaic 2000 program]

The violent-kid profile A controversial new technique for beating violence

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/991011/profile.htm

U.S. News Online
Science & Ideas 10/11/99
BY MARY LORD

The slackening rain of a major storm smacked the windows as several dozen
Dallastown, Pa., teachers and principals gathered in an elementary school
cafeteria for a workshop on emergency management. Their focus wasn't on
natural disasters like the weather outside, however. Instead, they were
getting a cram course from former police detective Peter Blauvelt, head of
the National Alliance for Safe Schools, on how to handle violence from
within. His top tactic: Identify alienated, troubled students -– the
"nonsqueaky wheels" –- before they snap.

"We don't know much about what tips a person to the level of rage where they
can take someone else's life," Blauvelt cautioned. But he ticked off 17
warning signs, from social withdrawal to violent writings to angry outbursts
and even poor grades.

Law enforcers have long used psychological "profiling" to nab serial killers
and terrorists. Now, school districts are embracing the concept as a way to
attack violence at its roots. By training their radar on potential signs of
violence, educators hope to pinpoint troubled students before they pull the
trigger, then intervene with counseling. Prevention is "the critical thing,"
explains Dallastown's superintendent, Bill Thompson.

In the process, however, schools are dramatically recasting the rules of
acceptable behavior. Since last April's shootings at Columbine High School,
students as young as third graders have been reprimanded, suspended, and
even arrested for things they say in class, post on the Internet, or wear to
school. Civil-liberties advocates call it the biggest crackdown on student
rights in recent memory.

"Early warnings." So far, metal detectors vastly outnumber "mental"
detectors. But with the U.S. Education Department handing out an "early
warning" 

[CTRL] Fw: RKDK - Part 2: Modern-Day Knights Templar in the Holy Land

[Nicky Molloy]

 
-Original Message-From: 
Timothy Aho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Watch 
Unto Prayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 
Sunday, 24 October 1999 4:30Subject: RKDK - Part 2: Modern-Day 
Knights Templar in the Holy Land
To: The 
WatchmenFrom: Watch Unto PrayerE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate: 
October 23, 1999
 
MODERN-DAY 
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR
IN 
THE HOLY LAND
 
 
In 1099, the original Knights Templar 
established their Jerusalem headquarters in the Church of the Holy 
Sepulchre.  According to Holy Blood, Holy Grail, "The knights and 
monks who occupied the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, also installed by 
Godfroi [de Bouillon], were formed into an official and duly constituted 'order' 
-- the Order of the Holy Sepulchre." [p.112] Two centuries later, by 1291, the Western crusaders were thrust out 
of the Holy Land by the Saracens and the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was lost to 
the Roman Empire. 
 
The Templars, who had 
absorbed the esoteric Kabbalism of the Mideast and brought it to Europe, fell 
into disfavor with the Holy Roman Empire and, in 1309, Pope Clement V and 
King Philippe IV of France dissolved the 
Order.  Grand Master, Jacques de 
Molay, was executed in 1314 and the knights of the Order of the Temple were 
either executed or fled Europe for safety. In Scotland, a Templar 
refuge, Robert the Bruce made a vow to go to Jerusalem and reclaim that city 
from the Saracens. However "In 1329, Bruce died. . . Before his death, he 
had expressed the wish that his heart be removed, placed in a casket, taken to 
Jerusalem and buried in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre" the original 
Templar headquarters. [Temple & Lodge, p.39]   

 
Robert the 
Bruce's heart never reached Jerusalem and was returned to Scotland 
where it was buried in Melrose Abbey. The Templars kept alive his dream to reclaim the Holy Land 
and it is therefore conceivable that the heart of 
Alisdair Sinclair was a substitute for that of Robert the 
Bruce. Burial in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre would symbolize claim of 
the Sinclairs, as the head of the Merovingian dynasty (aka, the royal 
bloodline of Jesus Christ), to be the rightful heirs of the throne of Jerusalem. 

 
Traitors and Carpetbaggers in the 
Promised Land, by Barry Chamish, includes a chapter on the Masonic 
control of Jerusalem which is reproduced on our website. Masons 
Busted in Tel Aviv mentions the real reason for the Masonic 
presence: "The Masons covet the Temple Mount, site of Solomon's Temple, 
because their mythology has the organization being established by one Hiram, the 
mason who supposedly built the Temple three thousand ears 
ago."  Barry's reference here is to the Legend of Hiram Abiff, 
a Masonic version of the Egyptian legend of Isis and Osiris which, 
as the theme of the initiation ceremony of a Master Mason (3º), 
dramatizes the demise of the ancient pagan gods and their mystery 
religion (due to the spread of Christianity) and also their future 
resurrection.
 
In his expose on Yitzhak Rabin's 
autopsy, Barry Chamish also mentioned that Alisdair Sinclair's death seemed to 
be in some way connected with "Britain's early and deep interest in 
Zionism, their reverance for Chaim Weizmann, the Balfour Declaration, The 
British-Israel Society, the Round Table policies of Cecil 
Rhodes and Lord Milner and the like."  Today, the British 
Freemasons plan to rebuild the Temple at Jerusalem, ostensibly to 
reinstitute the Old Testament sacrificial system. Their feigned 
patronage will deceive the Jews for a time, however their ultimate goal is 
to reestablish the ancient mystery religion.  Mike Noe has provided some fascinating information 
relevant to the interest and current activity of the British Freemasons in 
Jerusalem, particularly in the holy sites: 

. . .the Garden Tomb has Masonic 
connections and the land adjacent to the compound where Christ was crucified 
was sold by them to the Muslims and is now the site of an Arab bus station 
and Mosque.  This occurred several years ago after an amateur 
archaeologist discovered several key things to Christ's crucifixion and key 
items from Solomon's Temple underground in the area of the crucifixion known 
also as Golgotha and as Gordon's Calvary of General Gordon fame. I read it 
in a small passing excerpt from an article your ministry wrote or was linked 
to.  Anyway, I made the connection to General Gordon who I now 
believe from what I read was a Mason and died in Khartoum having been 
murdered which also mentioned in the excerpt I read. The excerpt referred to 
his death said he was a Mason and a reputed pedophile. 
[Editor's note: This is a reference to a portion 
of Anton Chaitkin's expose of the British origins of 
Pentecostalism: British 
Subversion of the United States: Who is wagging your neighbor's tongue? 
The Militias and 
Pentecostalism: 

". . . [Gen. Benton] Partin is a founder

[CTRL] :Explanation of Convergence: Cycles of Civilization

[Nicky Molloy]

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(Another mass email fishing for feedback -it works! I'm on a roll getting
this clarified too)

I bought an a UFO mag called Australasian Ufologist, and there is an article
by
NZer Graham H Stewart, he is a
research colleage with Bruce Cathie (both from Auckland) and he specialises
in the world energy grid system and universal harmonics relating to space
matter and time.

Apparently Bruce was visited by a CIA man who said that they could get into
15 dimensions. Well it appears from this article that they are accessing
interdimentional portals.There is a Major Covert Scientific Operation
connected with Interdimensional Physics and Time Shifts. Its a long story
and takes a bit of time to grasp the enormity of who is doing what, and I've
been trying to work out what they have been doing since last year.

Apparently there are different timelines which have been accessed by the
experimenters at Montauk, with Duncan Cameron etc There are -  according to
what they found out:  different representations of reality, where we are all
doing different things in other parallel universes. Well the Philadelphia
Experiment must have put a spanner in the works by ripping a 40 mile hole in
time.

The covert operators are using the earths natural biorhythms to access
the interdimensional doorways, presumably when the barrier thins out during
a biorhythm they have calculated. ( They are described in the ancient Irish
history as people moving in and out of the land of Faerie during solstices
or equinioxes) I think they are now using Stonehenge for this too, along
with Pine gap and other places where grid lines intersect.

.I have another post which shows that the Russians as well as the Americans
have worked out how measured brainwave frequencies affect the mental
functions. (thanks Das) This was achieved in the late 40's. So can you
imagine what they
are doing now. I have heard HAARP is being used for this and apparently the
Russians have their own version called Woodpecker. Bruce Cathie said he
worked out with harmonics and timing, that Chernobyl was no accident and
they are apparently setting off nuclear explosions on these sensitive grid
points. I know they are trying to get us into the 4th dimension using
technology.

If you are interested I can do a summary of the main points from various
sources.First summary below.There is a lot about this on the net but the
writers
usually say so much one needs endurance to pick out the main gist.



This is what they are doing to activate the world gridlines.
For those who were wondering why we should stop this.
I posted the full message last week and maybe it wasn't clear
so trying to highlight what they are up to.
I'll cut the waffle out and leave the main message)

Nicky

-Subject: Fw: Convergence: Cycles of Civilization

An Introduction to "Convergence" and the Cycles of Civilization
by David Wilcock - 7/2/99 -

SUMMARY :
"This short piece is designed to give the basics behind "Convergence," a
body of metaphysical research that many people feel has profound,
incredible implications for all of us here on Earth.

"Briefly, "Convergence" comes as a result of understanding that our solar
system operates in 25,920-year cycles, and that at the end of each cycle is
a frequency or energetic shift. These shifts affect the energetic structure
of the Earth, or the Global Grid, by forcing it to realign. And hence, you
have the "pole shift" phenomenon that is often referred to in metaphysical
circles. As indicated from the Mayan Calendar and many other sources, we
are now into the end phase of this entire 25,920-year cycle of human
civilization, and we can expect a fantastic and highly exciting
transformation of ourselves and our planet in the very near future as a
result. ( yes a surprise leap into the 4th dimension .N)

"We have also "rediscovered" the underlying physics of these
multidimensional systems in the universe. Most importantly, we come to
understand that the "dimensions" are actually frequencies of light, sound
and geometry, and that they are organized into an octave structure.

'However, certain "force
points" or nodes will form where there will be greater strengths of
concentration, due to the strings overlapping each other at set harmonic
periods. The straight lines of force that are formed as these "nodes" pull
on each other then form each of the sphere-based Platonic Solids as you
progress through the frequencies.
( We'll just hurry the grid line connections along by setting off nuclear
explosions on them.N)


"We then must visualize the fact that even though each "unit" is constantly
pulsating throughout the entire octave of frequencies, any entity ( is this
us? N) living in
a certain focus or a certain dimension will only be aware of their own
particular frequency.

"Indeed, any formation of consciousness that has crystallized
into matter will be ruled by the harmonic principles of the Consciousness
Units. This also
includes the human body with its seven m

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Heavenly Osiris and Earthly Isis? No doubt.

[Sno0wl]

 -Caveat Lector-

Don't mean to argue with you, the Illuminati,or G. Manley Hall, but the compass would
relate to Imenhotep, the human Architect; Ptah, the Creator God; or Thoth, the god
who, among other things, encompassed mathematics, learning, and philosophy. That's
what it relates to re the Egyptians. What it means to FreeMasons may be something
else altogether.

Isis was never an Earth Mothershe was ever Queen of Heaven.
Osiris was dismembered by his evil brother Set. Isis reassembled all the pieces but
one. She never found his phallus. Or perhaps she did find it and used it to impregnate
herself.  Reassembled (with a missing part), Osiris became King of the Underworld.
(Instead of being resurrected, he was reassembled). Isis gave birth to Horus, the 
hawk--
warrior of heaven--who triumphed over Set and avenged his father, returning the Cosmic
Order to Justice and Harmony.

Illuminati ideas are an amalgam of Egyptology/Christianity/ and the Order of the Rosy
CrossRosicrucianism.. I don't know about  the Rosicrucians, but I don't think the
Christians would cotton to a Queen of Heaven--not a human mother giving birth to a
diviine son, but a divine mother giving birth to a divine son who avenges the wrongs
done her and then rules over a world restored to order. Moreover, the Egyptology of the
Illuminati dates back to the early years of Egyptian rediscovery, (Napoleonic era)
before much was known and before many texts had been translated.



sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program

[Kris Millegan]

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In a message dated 10/23/99 6:22:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< To put it in a nutshell it
is my belief that People as a collective mental entity "create" and sustain
the "Illusory, OBjective Reality", and the "laws" of science are the
framework that has been adopted for which the illusion must follow.  Strong
minds or those who are able to get "outside" of this powerful force of will
can cause anomolies and make things happen (which are mostly not noticed).
In REAL Reality EVERYONE has the INNATE ability to nullify the bonds which
confine him and to fly, be energy, travel instantaneously, gain knowledge
instantaneously, etc.  In practice it rarely happens because it is percieved
to be hard, and in the end not worth the effort. >>

MHO, No, it boils down to math numbers, truth and beauty. Yes, there is a
place where time and space are nothing/same but to realize that one must
enter a god like state. A god like state has its own "protections" either a
person burns or his able to 'transcend" and be. Fleeting glimpses are
shown/experienced by mankind. Most sci-fi, is just that fiction. Physical
time travel is impossible, spirtual affectation of nullification of that
continuum is attainable there are thoughts in time that one can mingle and
times of unity that have ripples for those sensitive.  Unital values are very
important for introduction of alchemical change upon the brain's
conceptulization and culture. Mankind is very old and there have many wise
souls alongthe way you have told us all we need to know. There are "renegade
priests" attacking the very psyche of the world for power, control and
wealth. The secret societies hide behind the facades of wealth and privelege
but are naked before man and God. HG wells was a big fabian--wolf in sheep's
clothing, gradualists --breaking down beliefs and following occultic ritual
to subdue us, hoi polloi.

We make our reality one stupid mistke, one brilliant flash, one oppressed
moment at a time. Reality always has its moments of opportunity and windows
beyond our ken. The force of  culture and generation steamrolls. Either dark
age or transparency, me I vote transparency.

Om
K


Om
k

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[CTRL] Conspiracy Theory and Libertarianism

[lloyd]

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..

Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
From: Book Search Co-ordinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Conspiracy Theory and Libertarianism
Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 11:05 AM

My my, James, what a change. You've moved from your usual name calling and
abuse to something with some substance. [Not very much substance, as we
shall see below, but any improvement is welcome.]

>
>Oh come off it, James. You know very well, if you are half as educated as
>you claim to be, that the modern tradition of liberty originated as an
>ENGLISH reaction to the failed ENGLISH Revolution of the 17th Century, and
>that the American Revolution of a hundred years later was simply a
>continuance of that dissident tradition.
>
>James Responds:  Your ethocentrism is a bit telling Craig.   Liberty, I am
>sure, has a wider pedigree than you imply.  Further, the modern tradition of
>liberty is just about extinguished, esp. in Britain...perhaps because it was
>always more fraud than reality.
>
>The 17th Century English revolution was a Religious revolution.  Basically,
>the Puritans wanted control of the State to impose their own tyranny as
>opposed to the tyranny of a Catholic or Church of England power structure!
>Liberty had little or nothing to do with it.  Surely, Britain did evolve
>fairly decent traditions of tolerance, liberty and law prior to Continental
>Religious tyrannies like France, Russia, etc  Learning from the exhaustion
>of the religious wars and an infusion of the French Enlightenment of
>Voltaire, the Illuminati, etc. America was Established with a better
>tradition of Liberty, but mostly, as Spooner and others have shown, liberty
>was often just a rationalization for a new Oligarchy and more subtle
>tyranny.  Too bad the Federalists beat the anti-Federalists.

You just simply don't seem to be able to read, James. If you will look at
what I said, it was not that the dominate institutions in either Britain or
the U.S. were libertarian but that the modern tradition of liberty [i.e.,
LIBERTARIANISM] that arose as a REACTION to the FAILED English Revolution.

I don't think that this is a bit ethnocentric, since if you bother to look
at the French and Russian traditions of liberty you will find that (1) they
were largely inspired by the very roots I point to, rather than having a
domestic origin and (2) they were highly flawed from the outset [see
Hayek's essays on "Liberty: True and False" etc.]  The Italian liberty
movement is something else entirely, but no one in the U.S. seems very
familiar with that tradition in any case, and since I live in the U.S. my
silly ethnocentrism [to say nothing of pragmatism] tends to focus on what
matters here rather than in the remnants of East Prussia.




>
>>>or, to put it more bluntly, that
>>I'm working from reality and you're working from fantasy. I make a whole
>>series of substantive criticisms of the way that you go about your analysis
>>of the world, and, instead of focusing on any of those points or responding
>>to any of those points, you say I'm "lying about you" because you really
>>didn't mean that it was a bad thing that Reagan and the Pope "conspired" to
>>liberate Poland. [Then why did you bring it up as a "conspiracy" James?
>>>Isn't a "conspiracy" a bad thing in your world?]
>>
>>James Responds:  You will never catch me saying conspiracy is necessarily a
>>"bad" thing...it is constant and everywhere and relative.  The Pope and
>>Reagan's plan was good for US Imperialism, bad for Soviet Imperialism,
>>problematical for British Imperialism, good for the Germans etc.
>
>Well then, James, why is conspiracy so central to your analysis of how the
>world works, one might say the only element of your analysis? If conspiracy
>per se is a neutral thing, and merely a natural tendency of individuals
>seeking the aid and assistance of their fellows, why are you so obsessed
>with conspiracies? The primary persons that historically have been
>similarly so obsessed have been royalists or other supporters of some
>established order of things that see a "conspiracy" [usually inspired by
>Satan or mad anarchists] to disrupt their holy institutions.
>
>James Responds:  I can't help it that so many libertarians are rock headed
>about conspiratorial ruling class theory.  The government is obviously a
>conspiracy against libertyAm I obsessed with conspiracy or are "normal
>people" just blind as bats?

Let's assume for the moment that there is such a thing as "the government"
[which there isn't], then the result of your observation that it is engaged
in a "conspiracy against liberty" is, what exactly, James? Is the result
that we should swallow just any urban legend that someone comes up with
about what "the government' is up to now? Is the implication that since
"the government" is engaged in a "conspiracy against liberty" that we
should be worried about the Pope or the R

Re: [CTRL] Banksters Verge on Victory

[lloyd]

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..

Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
From: Lloyd Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Samuel E. Konkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Banksters Verge on Victory
Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 8:39 AM

The Federal Reserve System passed in 1913 was when the banking cartel was
firmly and thoroughly established and member banks thereby freed from
marketplace and put on the gravy train of capital created out of nothing via
government backing of the fractional reserve system and government backed
fiat money created out of nothing.  The 1st and 2nd Banks of the United
States were previous attempts to create a State-Capitalist Banking Cartel
were petty by comparison and ultimately failed.  Prior to the Federal
Reserve System, the previous banking systems, State Capitalist and "Free
Market" alike, were dominated by the then world dominating British State
Capitalist system emanating out of the Bank of England.

The Carter Glass laws of the 1930's did not re-submit the banking cartel to
the free market.  They simply limited the businesses in which it could
operate directly.  However, do we really think, for instance, that J. P.
Morgan the commercial bank really separated from J. P. Morgan the investment
bankers?  Not only do the 2 institutions have many of the same Directors,
once including Greenspan, but, ultimately, the actions of both institutions
are probably still commanded by their traditional London-Bank of England
connection.

Further, do we really think that stock brokerages and insurance companies
have been independent of the banks since Carter Glass got his laws passed?
Clearly not.  No major insurance company or stock brokerage can operate
without intimate access to the fountain of funny money of the Federal
Reserve cartel.  You will find insurance companies and and brokeages were
under the thumb already of the major banks as indicated by the shared
Directors and cross holdings of controlling interests.

It is not at all clear how libertarians should react changes in the details
of how government backed cartels are regulated.  One would need a great deal
of information and analysis to predict with any confidence how new
regulations would play out, ie. whether they would actually help or hurt
consumers, commercial borrowers, cartel members, the leading cartel members,
marginal cartel members, the governement, specially privileged minority
borrowers, "independent" providers of insurance and financial services, etc.

In my book, libertarians should simply campaign to end the cartel, ie.
repeal the Federal Reserve Act and associated special privileges.

Real deregulating of banking would be repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and
elimination of fiat money.  The Federal Reserve System puts the "banksters"
in charge of government regardless of the details of regulation.  Mostly
likely, the "banksters" have tired of the complexity involved in dominating
numerous nominally indepent Corporations in the insurance, financial
services, investment banking, etc.  and would rather control these
activities more directly on a centralized basisActually, they may find
that the more decentralized approach required by Carter Glass actually
worked better for their own interests!  We shall see!

Lloyd Miller

From: Samuel E. Konkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Banksters Verge on Victory


You know there is something fishy when Statists use libertarian rhetoric to
rationalize some new legislation.

The U.S. Banking Conspiracy, Inc., freed from the constraints of the
Marketplace by Alexander Hamilton, nearly
re-chained by Andrew Jackson and unleashed again by Abraham Lincoln, last
fettered by Jacksonian Carter Glass at the
dawn of the U.S. Depression, are about to have their remaining bonds struck
off by Clinton and Congress.

What the hell, the coming waves of repression and plunder shall just hasten
the Revolution. Ah, but as Rothbard might
say, Banking shall lose its Mystery . . .

For those who missed the lead article in today's New York Times:

October 23, 1999


Agreement Reached on Overhaul of U.S.
Financial System


Related Articles
The Lobbying: Behind the Banking Bill, Years of Intense Lobbying
The Impact: As an Era Ends, Finance Industry Enters Unknown
Territory
News Analysis: Big Gains by Gramm in Diluting Lending Act

Issue in Depth
Leading Up to the Decision on Banking Reform


By STEPHEN LABATON

ASHINGTON -- The Clinton Administration and top
Republican lawmakers reached an agreement early
Friday to overhaul the financial system, repealing
Depression-era
laws that have restricted the banking, securities and insurance
industries from

[CTRL] "Busting Bush's Biographer by Jacob Weisberg"

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
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Busting Bush's Biographer
By: Jacob Weisberg
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Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President
By J.H. Hatfield
St. Martin's Press, $25.95
The newest Bush biographer, J.H. Hatfield, claims to have the goods on the
Republican front-runner's druggie past. The Texas-based free-lance journalist
alleges that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972, but that his
daddy got a friendly state judge to expunge the record in exchange for W.'s
performing community service in a Houston mentoring program called PULL. The
author writes that he discovered this scandal only after his book was in
galleys, which is why the accusation is tacked on as an afterword to what is
otherwise a shoddy clip job with no fresh news.
Should we believe this story? I don't think so. The author, who has written
for various B-list Texas publications and previously published a biography of
the Star Trek actor Patrick Stewart, has no actual evidence to support his
charge. And while essentially asking us to trust him, he provides a multitude
of reasons for thinking he should not be trusted. (Editor's note: On
Thursday, St. Martin's Press announced it was "suspending" publication of Fort
unate Son because of questions about the afterword's accuracy and the
author's criminal record. Click here for more.)
For starters, Hatfield lacks all the kinds of details that might make it
possible to check the story. Among other things, he is missing the name of
the judge who supposedly let Bush off, the name of the arresting officer, the
police station, the date and circumstances of the arrest. What he claims to
have are three sources. Naturally, they're all anonymous (making this a good
example of the kind of story that wouldn't meet the evidentiary standards of
the cheesiest newspaper but that presents no problem for a "reputable" book
publisher). When I reached Hatfield at his publisher's office, he told me
that these sources are all old friends who have contemporaneous, independent
knowledge of the alleged arrest, but that none would provide specifics for
fear of being identified by Bush. Here's how he describes them in the book:

1. A "Yale classmate" and "family friend" who "partied with the future Texas
governor and presidential candidate in the late sixties and early seventies
in Houston."

2. A "longtime Bush friend and unofficial political adviser who had known the
presidential candidate for several years."
3. A "high-ranking adviser to Bush who had known the presidential candidate
for several years." Hatfield says this source agreed to confirm information
in the book and spent three days bass fishing with him in Eufaula, Okla.
Hatfield writes that he contacted these sources after reading a story in Salon
 in August reporting on an e-mail rumor. Salon amplified its own
unsubstantiated gossip by reporting on Hatfield's unsupported charges with ano
ther uncritical story this week. But what Hatfield claims these "sources"
told him is implausible. Why would three Bush supporters want to supply a
hostile reporter with information that would destroy their friend's
candidacy? More significant, when I questioned Hatfield about his sources, he
acknowledged that some of what he says about them in the book isn't true.
For example: Hatfield recounts calling Source No. 3 to ask him to confirm the
story he has from the first two. His "Eufaula Connection" calls him back half
an hour later. Here's what Hatfield writes about what Eufaula told him:


"I can't and won't give you any names, but I can confirm that W.'s Dallas
attorney remains the repository of any evidence of the expunged record. From
what I've been told, the attorney is the one who advised him to get a new
driver's license in 1995 when a survey of his public records uncovered a
stale but nevertheless incriminating trail for an overly eager reporter to
follow," he said, pausing occasionally to spit tobacco juice into the ever-pre
sent Styrofoam cup.

Spitting tobacco juice into the Styrofoam cup is a nice detail. But how, I
asked Hatfield, could he see his source doing this in what he described as a
telephone conversation? Hatfield made a spitting noise into the phone, and
said that he knew the source chewed tobacco because he had spent time with
him. But then he added: "I might have put that in to protect him. He doesn't
chew tobacco--I had to help him out a bit." This is quite an admission.
Nowhere in the book does Hatfield warn the reader that he has altered details
or created composite characters to protect his sources. His admission about
Source No. 3 raises the question of what else in his book is fictional.
Or

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database.
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Re: [CTRL] Gunderson and OKC -- message board postings

[Sammark4]

 -Caveat Lector-

On doing another search on Ted Gunderson's name on the internet, I found
some message board postings mentioning him.

What is excerpted below is the opinion of the poster.

Please note that there was a name discrepancy between her post and the
post she was responding to.  The post she was responding to named a man named
Ken L. Gunderson as former FBI SAC of Los Angeles and she refers to Ted L.
Gunderson -- former FBI SAC of Los Angeles.

For a post that discusses the name discrepancy, please see
http://www.future.net/~thetruth/okbomb/tedken.
---
http://www.future.net/~thetruth/okbomb/thompson2

(excerpt)

PSYOPS=psychological operations, which means coordinated propaganda.

I believe that the following key pieces of "evidence" that have been
released are part of the disinformation effort.  Each has one thing in
common. They come VERY close to describing or being the genuine information
but have key pieces of information that are patently false.  The effect, if
people run with the information, is to sow widespread disinformation and
confusion and to discredit the person who puts it out as unreliable.

(1)  The Gunderson information.  There is a bomb similar to what Gunderson
describes but it isn't the bomb Gunderson describes, and the information
Gunderson has released is incorrect.  The drawing of the bomb and the
ingredients are wrong.  "Aluminum silicate" (one of the Gunderson
ingredients) would produce sludge, not an explosion.  Who has the bomb that
is *similar to* Gunderson's theory?  The military.  They are called FAM's.

Gunderson is suspect.  He has been very involved in putting out information
on a pedophile ring and while some of that information may well be true, I
have a lot of information that indicates much of it is false (thus, his job
appears to be actually to discredit even that effort).  I have had extensive
contacts in the past from the people with whom he associates and they ALWAYS
pop up wailing and frantically faxing and putting out information on the
pedophile ring and other things "CIA has done" in the middle of some other
matter.  I strongly suspect they are all either a bunch of neurotics or an
organized propaganda ring.

(2)  The seismogram.  While this is probably a legitimate seismogram,
noticeably almost immediately we were presented with "experts" with choices
of "eeney, meeney, miney and moe" on whether the experts said there was one
blast, two blasts, or "either one or two" blasts.  We were also told (from
Gunderson again) that the expert who told him there were two blasts was told
to shut up and won't talk anymore.  I don't know who made the circles and
notations on the seismogram but those, too, are disinformation because they
circle the wrong thing.  Cooper and at least one other person (not counting
Gunderson) have proof the OKU expert (Luzas) did in fact say there were two
blasts.  Notice it appears to be Gunderson who is actually DISCREDITING
Luzas because he is the only one to say Luzas has recanted.  I know for a
fact on the day Gunderson said Luzas recanted that Luzas was not in town.
Gunderson is suspect.

end quoting

Samm

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[CTRL] rapist 2 take shaky 2 private screening of WACO-ANR! Nov.3rd

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Updated: Friday, Oct. 22, 1999 at 22:01 CDT

Top leaders invited to film on Waco siege
By Karen Brooks
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

President Clinton, Attorney General Janet Reno, FBI Director Louis Freeh and
members of Congress are among the invitees to a Nov. 3 private screening in
Washington of Waco: A New Revelation, the movie's director said yesterday.

"We don't expect all of them to show up, but they're invited," said Jason
Van Vleet of the independent MGA Entertainment in La Porte, Colo.

The two-hour documentary is based on work by Fort Collins, Colo.-based
researcher Mike McNulty and Van Vleet, the movie's director and producer, on
the deadly 1993 siege outside Waco.

Van Vleet said investigators who work for John Danforth, who was appointed
by Reno to lead an independent investigation, told him they plan to be at
the screening.

"That's what they've said so far," he said.

A 51-day standoff between federal agents and members of the Branch Davidian
religious sect at Mount Carmel ended with a deadly conflagration; the bodies
of 80 sect members, at least 20 of them children, were found in the remains.

Van Vleet and McNulty have become lighting rods for public uproar over the
government's handling of the siege. McNulty's previous film, Waco: Rules of
Engagement, already had earned him notoriety in Washington.

For the latest film, Van Vleet and McNulty interviewed theologians, experts
in explosives and infrared imaging, witnesses, survivors, former federal
employees, attorneys representing the Branch Davidians, and investigators
from federal, state and local agencies.

In another development yesterday, a judge set mid-May as the opening date
for a trial in the sweeping civil lawsuit filed by Branch Davidians that
accuses the federal government of using excessive force during the siege.

In his three-page order, U.S. District Judge Walter Smith set jury selection
to begin May 15 in the case against FBI sharpshooter Lon Horiuchi, who was
in charge of the sniper post outside the Davidians' compound.

Horiuchi, who killed the wife of white separatist Randy Weaver during a 1992
standoff in Ruby Ridge, Idaho, has denied firing any shots during the Waco
standoff.

The remaining claims against the government filed by Davidian survivors and
relatives of the dead will be heard in a nonjury trial at the conclusion of
Horiuchi's case.

This report contains material from The Associated Press.

Karen Brooks, (817) 685-3806
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Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program

[TenebrousT]

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In a message dated 10/22/99 5:47:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

> If the earthly physical plane (in the overall) is a "hologram" of
>  energy/mass, and energy is "free" to those who know HOW to "evoke" it from
>  the quantum Akasha --whose own biological FORMS would be only "holograms"
of
>  similar construction, of which they'd presumably be in greater CONTROL--
> then
>  the "objective" world of our senses is at bottom only a SUB-set of a less
>  "fixed," more "dream-like" SUBJECTIVE reality.  In such a reality,
>  "magicians" would create *illusions* in which "scientists," viewing things
> as
>  determinants rather than products, would in effect find themselves to be
>  prisoners --
>  and would therefore convince "rational"-minded human beings to function
>  mechanically, like automatons, in a Simulacrum (a limited, imperfect
>  SIMULATION of Reality) which actually EXCLUDES those very very qualities of
>  human mind and will --freedom of thought to imagine new vistas of the
>  "possible" and freedom of action to (sometimes) do the "impossible"-- which
>  could enable human beings to MASTER this "illusion" ...
>
>  Which may be what some "Gnostics" (not the life-HATING ones) have been
>  telling us, from long before Plato, to Philip K. Dick and "The Matrix"
TODAY
>  ...  Who says that the "shaman's" realm is any less "orderly" than the
"laws"
>
>  of SCIENCE's idea of 'Nature'?
>

Well, well, I just love it when you philosophise!  My take on this thing is
to point out a couple of things for discussion.  First there is an inordinate
mentioning of MEASURING in the Bible, is there not?  This could be more
occultic hidden language as well.  In line with the view that "rational"
scientists are the ones that are imposing their idea of the "orderliness" of
"objective" reality on the rest is the fact that ALL things are supposed to
answer to the LAW as it is stated.  There are anomolies though, especially in
quantum mechanics.  Wouldn't it be interesting IF the scientists are so
trapped in their mindset of their own subjective view of reality being
OBJECTIVELY true that through their force of will we are being made to accept
it as our own view of reality as well.  In this sense scientists would be
like a bunch of arch-mages controlling the world.  In reality I believe it is
more the product of incomplete thought that results in the "accepted" view of
reality.  People fail to pay attention and notice the anomolies (like NEO's
character in The Matrix DID NOTICE with the black cat repeating it's actions)
that would enable them to step from the mold.  Additionally reality as we
percieve it to be must be a construct of a huge amount of thought energy
which I don't think is sustainable by such a comparatively small group of
people against the potentially universe shattering force of 5+ other billion
people (unless of course those "other" people are constructs of the "false
reality").  Forgive me I am getting far afield.  To put it in a nutshell it
is my belief that People as a collective mental entity "create" and sustain
the "Illusory, OBjective Reality", and the "laws" of science are the
framework that has been adopted for which the illusion must follow.  Strong
minds or those who are able to get "outside" of this powerful force of will
can cause anomolies and make things happen (which are mostly not noticed).
In REAL Reality EVERYONE has the INNATE ability to nullify the bonds which
confine him and to fly, be energy, travel instantaneously, gain knowledge
instantaneously, etc.  In practice it rarely happens because it is percieved
to be hard, and in the end not worth the effort.


effort.  
*

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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[CTRL] Fwd: Sacred Lands Under Seige

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

Sacred Lands Under Seige ::: Support Sovereign Dineh Nation
**
From: Lendra Ceinwyn
*
To weave for the Dine'h is a prayer of thanksgiving , "the
People" whom some call Navajo. Without their sheep
they cannot pray.
As of Feb1., 2000 this proud independent matriachal culture will be
forced once again to move to a "New Land", to be relocated, which they
have no word for in their language.
In 1998, President Clinton signed the Relocation Act during a golf game,
condemning the Dine'h to be moved again against their will, to "New
Land" which is filled with radioactive uranium tailings at 100 times the
maximum safety level.
7 grandmothers have refused to sign over their land, and will
refuse because Big Mountain is sacred to them, the Earth their Mother,
this is their lives they refuse to hand over to the BIA, and Peabody
Coal. These 7 grandmothers are the elders of the Dine'h and represent
14,000 people.
The Dine'h people are afraid that there will be another Ruby Ridge or
Waco or Wounded Knee on or before Feb. 1
Please sign the Petition to end the genocide of the Dine'h People, and
let them continue to weave and breathe.
This is surely one of the darkest episodes in our history.
Sign Online Petition in Support of Navajo Elders
http://www.freespeech.org/senaa/VPJava.html
http://www.freespeech.org/senaa/VPnoJava.html
^
Ya'a' te & Aloha All...
The Altar-Land at Black Mesa is one of the sacred
power-centers of our planet, and the balance of all life is being
jeopardized by the ruthless and brutal rape of this mineral-rich area
adjacent to the Grand Canyon.
My Aunty, Roberta Blackgoat, is one of the "resistors", or
traditional elders, who is holding out till the last, faced with guns,
bulldozers, barbed wire, helicopters, and constant harrassment... in
order to protect the medicine ways and family ties to this sacred place,
now referred to simply as "Big Mountain."
The extent of the conflict, the war of attrition carried out
by U.S. & multinational corporate terrorists, and the total ecocide of
the North section of Black Mesa (literally turned into a "hell on
Earth"!) by United Energy & Peabody Coal through stripmining, is
difficult to convey in words, or even pictures.
Please take a short time out of your lives and visit the
links below, watch ::: "Vanishing Prayer" (RealPlayer)
http://www.freespeech.org/senaa/VanPrayr2.ram
Sign the online petition at SENAA, and after you've reviewed the
situation, please send your letters of protest to the people below.
Having lived out there with the elders, and walked in the
footsteps of the ancients, having listened to the Hopi Prophecies, and
the wisdom of the medicine carriers, I can testify to the importance of
this struggle for sovereignty and self-determination, both culturally
and ecologically. Walk the Altar-Land yourself, and feel the Spirit move
in and around you...
In the Spirit of Crazy Horse, Emilio Zapata, and
Lili'uokalani BZ Bonoboy
Hilo, Kingdom of Hawai'i
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Protests & Support for Elders to:::
Secretary of Interior Bruce Babbitt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BIA Office of Congressional & Legislative Affairs
http://www.doi.gov/bia/clahome.html
U.S. Department of the Interior ::: BIA West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
National Academy of Public Administration
http://www.napawash.org/napa/index.html
Comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Panel Urges Major Reforms at the Bureau of Indian Affairs)
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FIGHTING THE BIA's "FINAL SOLUTION"
by Al Swilling
Kosovo is not the only place in the world conducting human rights abuses
and ethnic cleansing. What the U.S. government doesn't want the American
public to know is that the same crimes that NATO forces were so
determined to stop in Kosovo are happening right now within United
States borders. The following video outlines the story of the Dine'h
(Navajo) who live at Big Mountain, on the Black Mesa, in northeastern
Arizona.
For the past 25 years, the Dine'h have been the victims of greed
and government oppression in the extreme. Abandoned by their own tribal
council by orders of the federal government, the Dine'h have been
stripped of virtually every human, civil, and constitutional right
because they refuse to leave their ancestral homeland and relocate into
the only alternative provided by the U.S. government, which is known as
the "New Land," land that is contaminated with uranium tailings that
have rendered the land useless, with radiation levels 100 times maximum
safe levels.
Now the Dine'h face a deadline of February 1, 2000, to relocate. The
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) has sworn that it will execute its "Final
Solution" before the deadline. The Dine'h at Big Mountain fear that the
BIA's "Final Solution" will be similar to the solutions executed at
Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Wounded Knee; with only the BIA remaining to tell
the American public whatev

[CTRL] Moolah Makes A-Mends

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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>From http://www.newsworld.cbc.ca/news/cp/world/991023/w102330.html

{{}}
France and China ignore protests to do deals worth billions

French President Jacques Chirac welcomed Chinese President Jiang Zemin
Saturday. (AP)
BRIVE-LA-GAILLARDE, France (AP) - Chinese President Jiang Zemin and French
President Jacques Chirac shared lunch Saturday, made a multibillion-dollar
deal, then retired to the French leader's country residence out of earshot of
dissidents and human-rights protesters.
A day after Jiang's arrival on a five-day state visit, Chirac announced China's
decision to order 28 Airbus planes, a deal apparently concluded over lunch in
the south-central city Lyon.
"It's good for Europe. It's good for France. It's good for employment," Chirac
said of the order for eight A340 wide-body aircraft and 20 A318s and A319s. He
valued the deal at the equivalent of $3.7 billion Cdn.
Jiang, on a two-week foreign tour that began in Britain, later climbed aboard
the TGV, a high-speed train that France would like China to buy. But no
commitment was made.
The men then flew to the Limoges region of central France to spend the night at
the Chateau Bity before heading to Paris Saturday.
Jiang is the first head of state ever invited to Chirac's country estate and
the invitation drew fierce protests from Chinese dissidents and some French
politicians.
In Brive, just south of Chateau Bity, about 75 protesters, including Tibetan
monks and members of Amnesty International, demonstrated outside the town's
white-stone cathedral.
"Has Mr. Chirac forgotten what happened 10 years ago in China?" said Wangyal,
52, a Tibetan monk living in France, referring to the 1989 Tiananmen Square
protest movement, which was crushed by the Chinese military.
"That's what happens every day in Tibet."
However, it was the overnight invitation at the Chirac's that drew the most
criticism.
"Jacques Chirac is losing face," said Chinese dissident Wei Jingsheng, who was
imprisoned for 18 years.
"You can offer a client something to eat but you don't invite him into your
bed."
On his arrival Friday, Jiang spoke of efforts to work toward greater democracy
in China.
"The Chinese people of different ethnic origins, uniting like a single man, are
working assiduously to make China, in 50 years, a modern socialist nation,
prosperous, highly democratic and civilized," Jiang said.
Chirac contends dialogue is the best way to advance democracy.
During the visit, French leaders and Jiang are expected to discuss China's bid
to enter the World Trade Organization, human rights and issues such as
disarmament and the role of NATO, a presidential spokesmen said.
© The Canadian Press, 1999

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>From http://www.newsworld.cbc.ca/news/cp/world/991023/w102328.html
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 Albright angry with Calgary company for investing in Sudan

U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright visits Kenya. (AP)
NAIROBI (AP) - U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, on a visit to Kenya,
expressed anger Saturday over Canadian investment in neighbouring Sudan, whose
government Washington officially condemns.
Asked about the participation of Canadian interests in an oil consortium in
Sudan, she said: "I am definitely going to talk to the Canadians about this."
She said some countries have the mistaken view foreign investment in countries
under what she termed dictatorial rule will help ordinary people, adding
revenues instead often wind up in the pockets of the rulers.
Talisman Energy Inc., based in Calgary, has invested $400 million in a 1,600-
kilometre pipeline that is expected to permit exploitation of untapped oil
reserves. The pipeline was completed several months ago.
Sudan is the scene of a conflict that has claimed the lives of an estimated 1.9
million people over the last 16 years, mostly southerners who perished in a war-
induced famine.
On the final leg of a six-country African tour, Albright met with John Garang,
head of the rebel Sudan People's Liberation Army, as well as leaders of a
regional group trying to arrange a peace settlement and exiled Sudanese civil
leaders.
Before arriving in Kenya, Albright visited Guinea, Sierra Leone, Mali and
Nigeria. She also went to Tanzania, where she attended the funeral of Julius
Nyerere, a former Tanzanian president and one of the continent's most beloved
statesman.
At the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, before departing for Washington, Albright said
her encounter with Sudanese civic leaders was distressing.
She said they told her Sudanese aircraft routinely bomb churches in the south
because they are easily visible from high elevations.
"They are worried that whole generations of Sudanese will have no homes,"
Albright said.
She promised an increase in U.S. aid to these civil society groups to $3
million a year, up from the current $2 million.
The United States also has provided food assistance averaging about $100
million a year to starving people in Sudan over the last decade.
In addition to the bombings in the south, Albright 

[CTRL] thug Babbitt: "The clock is running,"..

[Bard]

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Babbitt Gets Feisty, Warns Congress of More Monuments
Wednesday, October 20, 1999


BY CHRISTOPHER SMITH
THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE

WASHINGTON -- History may show that Utah's Grand Staircase-Escalante
National Monument was just Bruce Babbitt's first step.
The secretary of Interior told Congress in no uncertain terms Tuesday
that other choice scenic and historic areas of the western U.S. landscape
will be set aside as national monuments -- with or without Congress's
approval.
"I am not prepared to sit back and let this Congress do what it has done
for the last seven years on these areas, which is virtually nothing," an
unusually feisty Babbitt said during a hearing on a bill intended to
head-off a presidential declaration of the Shivwits Plateau National
Monument on the Arizona Strip. "If Congress does not act and produce an
acceptable bill protecting these lands, I will consider asking the president
to use his power."
That "power" is the 1906 Antiquities Act, dusted off by the
administration in 1996 to designate the 1.9 million-acre Grand
Staircase-Escalante National Monument in southern Utah. It was one of the
most substantial land conservation decisions made this decade, yet it
happened seemingly overnight with little consultation between the Democratic
Clinton administration and the state's Republican leaders.
Next time there will be no surprises, said Babbitt. But he also won't
wait more than a year for Congress to take protective action before asking
President Clinton to wield the power of his pen and designate a monument.
"The clock is running," he said, noting his tenure as chief steward of
America's public lands is in its twilight. "This proposal for the Shivwits
Plateau was announced a year ago and today is the first hearing it has had
here. That's the problem. I want to strike this notion that Congress has not
had enough time to deal with these issues."
Areas Babbitt mentioned as possible national monuments besides the
Shivwits Plateau in northern Arizona, included the Perry Mesa and Black
Canyon in central Arizona, Steens Mountain in Oregon and a portion of the
Santa Rosa and San Jacinto mountain ranges in northern California.
In an interview after the hearing, Babbitt said he has no plans for
another Utah monument. "I have told the governor I have no intention of
proposing any additional monuments within the boundaries of the state of
Utah," he said.
The frank acknowledgment that the Department of Interior is considering
new national monuments infuriated some House members.
At one point, Rep. John Shadegg, R-Ariz., asked if Babbitt would provide
the committee with a list of all areas under study or consideration for
national monument designation.
Babbitt's one word answer: "No."
After a stunned silence, the secretary added, "I don't mean to be
disrespectful."
But he minced no words when it came to Arizona Republican Rep. Bob
Stump's bill creating a Shivwits Plateau National Conservation Area as an
alternative to the national monument.
"The bill is a step backward," Babbitt said. "It provides less
protection than we have now under existing regulations."
That was not what some residents of the Arizona Strip, still smarting
over the Grand Staircase coup, wanted to hear.
"The land has allowed us to raise our families and to find a better way
of life," said Kane County Commissioner Joe Judd, who testified in favor of
Stump's bill. "Now, the very land that was once hard, unyielding and
sometimes cruel, is being legislated into areas zoned for wilderness
preservation, as if it could suddenly revert back to historic notions and
wild imagination."
http://www.sltrib.com/10201999/nation_w/39645.htm

Bard


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[CTRL] Farm / Dock Workers

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>From http://www.igc.org/igc/ln/aa/99102021778/aa1.html

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Tell Clinton: Veto Farmworker Replacement Bill
Originally posted in IGC member conference: labr.newsline
Date: October 16, 1999
Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/* Written 7:58 AM  Oct 16, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in labr.newsline */
/* -- "Support Veto Of Law To Replace Dome" -- */

 Date:10/15  2:43 PM
 From:JOCELYN SHERMAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

News from the Farm Worker Movement(www.ufw.org):


Tell President Clinton: veto measure to replace
domestic farm workers with foreign laborers


As this year's Congress winds to close, agribusiness is lobbying to let
growers import foreign field laborers without making an adequate effort to
recruit domestic farm workers. President Clinton must veto this latest
agribusiness scheme.

Growers who claim they cannot find enough workers can bring in temporary
foreign workers under the existing federal H2A program. But first they
must make a good-faith effort to recruit domestic workers through the
state and federal labor services.

An amendment by Tennessee Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell to an
agricultural appropriations bill would reduce the required recruitment
time to only three to eight days. That would mean many jobs now held by
domestic workers would go instead to imported foreign workers.

"Agribusiness' No. 1 farm labor strategy over the years has been
maintaining a surplus supply of labor to depress pay and benefits, and
fight unionization," stated United Farm Workers founder Cesar Chavez.

Between 1942 and 1964, the infamous bracero farm labor program brought
hundreds of thousands of Mexican workers to toil on U.S. farms. Bracero
laborers took jobs from domestic farm workers. And both domestic and
bracero farm workers suffered miserable abuse and exploitation.

A December 1997 report by the General Accounting Office concluded there
are no labor shortages in agriculture. Major agricultural counties across
the nation frequently record double-digit unemployment, even during
harvest months.

The rapidly anti-union Western Growers Association (WGA) is behind the
drive to bring in more foreign workers. WGA also leads agribusiness
opposition to the UFW. Under an expanded H2A program, growers would deny
imported farm workers the rights to organize into a union, change jobs or
employers, or complain about poor treatment and working conditions without
being blacklisted.

CONTACT PRESIDENT CLINTON AND URGE HIM TO VETO ANY APPROPRIATIONS BILL
THAT LETS GROWERS REPLACE DOMESTIC WORKERS WITH FOREIGN WORKERS. Make the
following points with the President or e-mail the following letter:

President Bill Clinton
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, D.C. 20500
Phone: 202-456-1414
Fax: 202-456-2461
E-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear Mr. President:

 Protect domestic farm workers from being replaced by foreign
workers by vetoing the agricultural appropriations bill containing the
McConnell amendment.

 The provision by Tennessee Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell would
reduce the time growers are required to recruit domestic workers under the
federal H2A program to only three to eight days. That would mean many jobs
now held by domestic workers would go instead to imported foreign workers.

 All the evidence says there are no labor shortages in agriculture. If
growers claim they can't find enough workers, they should be required to
make good-faith efforts to recruit domestic workers before importing
foreign workers.

 Under the McConnell amendment, imported foreign workers would be
denied rights guaranteed American farm workers.

  Sincerely,



(Name and/or Organization)

Also contact your U.S. Senators and Representative:

Honorable __
U.S. Senate or House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515

For more information on the Farm Worker Movement visit our web site at
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ILWU Terminates Hawaii Dock Contract
Originally posted in IGC member conference: labr.newsline
Date: October 18, 1999
Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/* Written 9:17 PM  Oct 18, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in labr.newsline */
/* -- "ILWU Terminates Hawaii Dock Contrac" -- */

Hawaii Dockworkers Terminating Pact

HONOLULU  The union representing Hawaii's dockworkers was to terminate
its contract with four shipping companies Monday night, creating
uncertainty for island residents almost totally dependent on ships to
deliver food and other goods.

The International Longshore and Warehouse Union Local 142 gave notice
Friday to the Hawaii Employers Council that it would terminate the current
contract at 6 p.m. Monday, a move union leaders hoped would bring a sense
of urgency to negotiations with four shipping companies.

Thirty-one union stevedores on Maui voted unanimously Monday

[CTRL] Soc. Security, banking systems not Y2K ready

[Bard]

 -Caveat Lector-

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance;
they are the people's liberty's teeth."
-- George Washington

FRIDAY
OCTOBER 22
1999

PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO
Social Security, banking
systems not Y2K ready

Congressional testimony sheds doubts
on fiscal preparedness for year 2000




By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Thousands of repairs are still needed in order to get Social Security checks
out on time in the new year, according to recent congressional testimony.
Despite ten years of preparations, the Social Security Administration is
still not ready to deal with the Y2K computer glitch.
The banking system is also not ready, while the major Fortune 1000 companies
still face major Y2K-related disruptions, according to recent reports.

"The Social Security system is now 100 percent compliant with our standards
and safeguards for the year 2000," said President Bill Clinton last
December. Recent testimony would indicate that the American public has been
deceived.

After the president's declaration there was a great deal of bragging about
the agency. They were held up as a great example of what a government agency
can accomplish. The SSA began work on the Y2K computer problem in 1989, long
before other government agencies.

President Clinton assured older Americans that they have nothing to worry
about. Social Security checks would arrive on time after Jan. 1. The Y2K bug
would not bite the fixed income of America's elderly, he assured the public.

However, some say problems could emerge. "SSA's work is not yet complete,"
said Joel C. Willemssen when he testified recently before a committee of the
House of Representatives. "Certain tasks integral to ensuring its overall
readiness for the year 2000 must still be accomplished," he added, directly
contradicting the president's statement.

Willemssen is director of the Civil Agencies Information Systems Accounting
and Information Management Division. His warning should not be taken
lightly. His statement means parts of the system are not yet Y2K compliant,
ready, fixed, or even prepared. Yet the unprepared parts of the system are
critical to getting checks out on time, for the correct amounts and to the
right people.

One of the problems involves "data exchanges," he said. This is information
sent to and received from other agencies and organizations which are known
to be less than Y2K ready themselves.

Willemssen also expressed concern in his testimony that contingency planning
has not yet been completed. Social Security payments may not get through
because of banks that have Y2K disruptions.

"SSA plans to assist Treasury in developing alternative disbursement
processes for problematic financial institutions," said Willemssen.

As of July 23, 1999, SSA tested 92 percent of its mission critical
applications. Those tests, according to their own reports, revealed 1,565
errors that needed to be fixed. Those errors were found in 283 out of 308
mission-critical systems. Of the 1,565 errors found in those 283 systems,
only 44 percent were repaired at the time of the report.

Social Security checks are scheduled to be delivered to local post offices
on Dec. 29, 1999, to avoid potential delivery problems after Jan. 1, 2000.
Many payments are to be made by electronic deposit and will be transmitted
to banks directly before the new year begins. That may serve as a good
contingency method of delivery for the January payment, but the same
solution will not work for February and beyond if there are Y2K problems at
that time.

Banks transfer funds electronically every day, and even if an individual
bank functions well within its own walls, the ability to transfer funds back
and forth with other financial institutions may be in doubt.

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), Basel, Switzerland, is the
central bank for all other central banks in the world. They are not as
cheery about the Y2K outlook as most local banks have been.

"Some problems will be missed," predicted a recent report from BIS, which
was sent to other banks. "New problems will be missed; new problems will be
inadvertently introduced via the remediation process; even the best test
programs may not detect all potential errors; uncertainty will remain up to
and after Jan. 1.

"In other words," the report concluded, "it is inevitable there will be Y2K
disruptions, although it's not possible to predict how serious or widespread
this disruption will be."

The report details the threat of a breakdown of the inter-bank payment
system, and clearly states there is no backup.

"Y2K is unlike any other disruption problem where identical backup sites can
be activated. But any uncorrected Y2K problem is likely to affect both
sites, so the backup would not be a contingency," warned the BIS report.

Individuals who do not engage in transferring funds from bank to bank mi

[CTRL] The Therapeutic State

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

Via www.informinc.co.uk/index.html

'James Nolan rigorously traces the ways in which the American state has both
responded to and promoted a therapeutic ethos in order to legitimise its role
at the century's end. In civil law, criminal law, education, welfare policy and
politics he discovers the growing ascendancy of emotion, subjectivity,
victimhood and self-esteem; how 'happy and healthy' is replacing 'good or bad
or even right or wrong'. This brilliant analysis conjures up the vision of a
future in which active citizens have become passive patients. Before you feel
the pain or get in touch with your feelings, you should read this book.'

John Fitzpatrick, lecturer in law, University of Kent


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Re: [CTRL] Gunderson and Art Bell

[Sammark4]

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My apologies if this is a rehash of news and information that I have
missed on the list.
 FYI  I've been looking for information about Ted Gunderson recently
because he is an alleged advocate for survivors of satanic ritual abuse and I
have a vested interest in the subject.
 I am recently questioning his motivation based on information I read in
the ebook "The Last Circle", then from some survivors who have come forward
to say they had bad experiences with him.
On the Konformist website, there is an explanation for why Art Bell left
his radio program abruptly.  It seems that Ted Gunderson was involved in
passing along information that Bell was a child molester, that he'd been
arrested in Nevada, and had tried to convince authorities to drop the case.
According to Robalini (Konformist) this information is not true.  Bell is
suing Gunderson.  Robalini has been subpoenaed to give testimony in Bell's
suit against another radio program host (David Oates) who relayed the same
information re: Bell.
There is a website with a letter purportedly written by Oates where he
says he is willing to give a public apology to Bell and also hopes Bell will
drop his $60 million suit against him.
Bell's son does have a molestation suit going against a substitute
teacher.

 http://www.konformist.com/1999/artbella.htm">The Konformist - Art
Bell Explains Why He Lef...
http://www.konformist.com/1999/artbella.htm
(excerpt):

The broadcast in question originated from WWCR on Dec. 9, 1997. The
alleged statements were made during an interview by talk show host David
Hinkson and former FBI agent Ted Gunderson. Fox claims Gunderson told
Hinkson that Bell had been indicted for child molestation in Nevada and
had asked authorities to cover up the evidence and dismiss the
indictment. Listeners were invited to contact Bell about the indictment.
Bell says he was so harassed that he decided to quit. ``When people
continue to call you things like a child molester, you're not in any
particular frame of mind but defend yourself,'' he says. Fox says, ``It
is a fair characterization to suggest that Hinkson was egged on by
Gunderson, and there was some form of instigation taking place'' when
the allegations were made. Fox says it was ``absolutely shocking'' that
a person hosting a radio program would hear this kind of attack without
knowing its validity and not end the discussion.

 http://www.konformist.com/1999/artbell.htm">The Konformist - Art
Bell To Subpoena Konform...
http://www.konformist.com/1999/artbell.htm

Samm

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Re: [CTRL] SCIENCE HAS NOW PROVEN THAT WE EXIST OUTSIDE OF OUR PH...

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In a message dated 10/23/1999 3:04:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
 SCIENCE HAS NOW PROVEN THAT WE EXIST OUTSIDE OF OUR PHYSICAL BODIES >>

They've been telling me this at church for years and years.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] (Fwd)End of free Speech on Chemical Site Data

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 10/23/1999 2:58:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
 Are you a duly recognized "covered person" or "covered researcher"?

 Whether you are or not, you better keep your mouth shut about chemical

 plants. You can be fined $5000 per facility per mouth off, up to a total

 of $1 million/year. >>

I talked to someone at the EPA about this, and you will at least be delighted
to know that the Democrats managed to get the jail time that was in the house
bill and the original senate bill bounced out of it before it was finally
sent to the President to sign.  The date for reassessment was required by
Clinton before he would sign it into law.  This is the end result of Rep
Thomas Bliley and Senator Inhofe efforts to please the Chemical companies who
are very happy about this.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Canadian survivor needs your help

[Smart News]

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Below please find excerpts from a post I received permission to forward.

Sincerely,   Neil Brick



Please note: all crimes are alleged. This may be triggering for survivors of
abuse.
(The parts in parenthesis are mine.) Survivors may want to use caution when
writing people.


The defense portion of Rick Carlson's trial is coming up next week. (It is
believed) he is a survivor of  the CIA sponsored LSD experimentation in
Canadian prisons when he was young.

Now they are prosecuting him for a bank robbery (it is believed) he did not
do as well as trying to hang a dangerous offender "diagnosis" on him which
will be essentially life in prison.

The person that sent this to me met with Rick several times when they were in
Thunder Bay this summer. He is a bright, charming man. He is literate,
intelligent and no one they would consider to be a dangerous offender. (It is
believed) the real reason they want to put him away is to shut him up.

Please help.  I ask each of you to send a fax to the addresses listed below
stating that you are aware of Rick's situation as an experimentation survivor
and that
the American public is very interested in outcome of his case.  The most
important thing is that the powers-that-be know that the outside world is
watching.  We all know what they can get away with if they think that no one
cares.  I have met him. He is no different than anyone here. Please fax as
many of these people as you can.

Rick's address is :
Richard Carlson
Box 2806
ThunderBay, ONT
CANADA   P7B5G3

I will post the jail fax number in a separate posting but a post card would be
great.  His lawyers are telling him he does not stand a chance. Let them know
the world is watching.  Please forward this post to everyone you can think of.

The Advocacy Committee for Human Experimentation Survivors
(ACHES-MC)

>**Solicitor General Lawrence MacAulay
>Sir Wilfrid Laurier Bldg
>13th Floor   340 Laurier Av. W.
>Ottawa  Ontario  K1A OP8
>phone  613-991-2924 fax  613-952-2240
>
>
>**Ole Ingstrup
>Commissioner
>Corrections Canada 340 Laurier Av W
>Ottawa Ontario K1A 0P8
fax  613-992-1475
>&
>Jerry Hooper
>Assistant Commissioner
>
>**Joe Comuzzi  MP  Thunder Bay  Nipigon
>350 Confederation Bldg   House of Commons
>Ottawa  Ontario  K1A 0A6
>fax  613-996-9785
>and TBAY fax  807-345-4752
>
>**Rick's lawyers:
>Norman Williams in Hamilton, ONT
>fax   905-522-9296
>
>Glenn E.J. Sandberg in Sudbury, ONT
>fax   705-671-2107
>
>Rick and Dorothy's lawyer for CSC case:
>James Newland  Toronto
>fax   416-360-2625

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[CTRL] Cycles of Civilization - As below is above?

[Tsadowq]

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Re: [CTRL] Convergence: Cycles of Civilization

In a message dated 10/23/1999 2:20:26 PM Mountain
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Also, if you read "Hamlet's Mill," the bottom line is that our
constellations and zodiac --a projection of archetypal motifs onto
the stars, a kind of "written" record used to teach posterity--
the celestial blueprint was first created at an astronomically
remarkable moment about 6000 BC, when the GALACTIC
plane intersected the path of the sun and planets at the
equinoctial point.">>

This theory appears to unnaturally reverse "as above, is below"--
denying the fundamental relationship of the microcosm to the
macrocosm.

As an example

We know that the Earth (and it's occupants) are continually
effected by the heat, light, and electromagnetic fields (both
polar and equatorial) of the Sun.

Each person, while having the same basic components,
are still unique to their own matter through both their
individual predisposition of DNA, and their natal position
(date/time stamp) within the Universe. We recognize the
effect of these "powers" on the whole of mankind's indivi-
duality as natal and conceptual astrology...

Each planet, individually unique to it's own matter, is not
only guided along it's path by the Sun's magnetic "leash,"
but also "soaks in" or "reflects" said solar benefactors
back toward the Earth itself.  We recognize the effects
of these "powers" on the whole of the Earth (as Earth
Stars), which are but one of the factors for recognizing
the planetary grid...

This is of course, probably why the Giza pyramids line
up to Orion and the Chinese pyramids line up to Draco...

AS BELOW, IS ABOVE?

The Bible forbids "fortune telling," which at least acknowledges
the reality of the possibility; and, we know that charting a daily
horoscope through the use of natal astrology can give some
form of advance insight or perspective toward the daily events
of a person's life.

Individuals here on Earth may THINK that they know where they
are going on a daily basis (the trajectory of their daily life, if you
will), but the changing components of daily life, and their very
POSITION on the earth alter those plans

Accidents happen.

Conversely, the trajectories of the heavenlies seem
to continue along their seemingly beaten path...

>From this beaten path, it is their continually moving orbital
presence and magnetic reflection that are recognized as
having an effect on mankind, and NOT vice-versa.

We do acknowledge the paradox of this situation--

But surely, the "bottom line" of "Hamlet's Mill" must be
INcorrect in stating that the projection of archetypal motifs
onto the stars was MERELY a kind of "written" record used
to teach posterity, as this would ULTIMATELY mean that
the actions of mankind would indicate the POSITION of
the heavenlies, rather than vice-versa.

Whether or not this next quote is taken from "Hamlet's Mill"
or from DASgoat, I am unsure, but in either case, this second
half of the above statement proves to be more of the same:

In a message dated 10/23/1999 2:20:26 PM Mountain
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"...the celestial blueprint was first created at an astronomically
remarkable moment about 6000 BC, when the GALACTIC
plane intersected the path of the sun and planets at the
equinoctial point."

This is like saying that Americans are afforded individual
and humane rights because they are RECOGNIZED in
the Bill of Rights.

DASgoat, please correct me if I am reading these statements in
the wrong light, but these remarks seem to infer that it was finite
man who made up the schematics from scratch, and imposed
them on the Universe which existed prior to his (flesh) creation.

It would appear far more likely, that this is the moment in
time where "stone age man" came to these REALIZATIONS.

Realization is not creation.

Discovery is not invention.

By whom, however, and whenever this celestial connection
was made, speaks only toward the realization and discovery
of that which had previously existed.

Some might say, that as he began to search for his
microcosmic place in the macrocosmic Universe,
mankind was Divinely guided toward learning the
meaning of stars and constellations for the purpose
of revealing far greater truths (GEN 1:14; PS 19:1-5);
helping us to further understand the possibility of
expanding our just and finite place therein.

But, mankind's self adulating pulp fiction prefers
to exaggerate his presence and achievement--
sometimes, even to that of Godhood.

Giving the already existing celestial mechanics and magnetic
framework of the Universe a name does not call it into existence.

Unless of course, the namegiver is God Himself;
and in my book, mankind is not God.

Tsadowq

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[CTRL] rapist to steal Soc. Security surplus 2 pay down debt

[Bard]

 -Caveat Lector-

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Clinton wants to use Social Security to pay debt
Updated 11:34 AM ET October 23, 1999
By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Raising the stakes in the battle over the federal
budget, President Clinton said Saturday he will propose legislation to use
Social Security surpluses to pay down the national debt.

The idea, as described by Clinton in his weekly radio address, is to pay
down more than $3.1 trillion in public debt over the next 15 years as part
of a plan that would make the United States debt-free for the first time
since 1835.

The billions saved in interest payments to service the debt would then be
diverted to the Social Security Trust Fund to ensure its solvency to 2050.

"This is the first big step toward truly saving Social Security," Clinton
said.

It is a proposal he floated earlier this year, but it has failed to find
support in the Republican-led Congress.

By sending the legislation to Capitol Hill on Monday, he is trying to revive
the proposal in the context of budget negotiations with Republicans.

The two sides are accusing each other of making budget proposals that would
tap into Social Security surpluses, a practice that has been done for years
but which is unpopular now during a time of budget surpluses.

Republicans have proposed Social Security "lockboxes" of their own to
protect the entitlement program from being raided to pay for current
programs.

"We believe the government should 'stay the course' and live within its
means," said Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico in the Republican radio
address.

"By doing so, we can preserve the Social Security surplus, pay down our
national debt, (and) keep the budget balanced, while investing in priorities
such as education and health care," he said.

Domenici, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, argued that the existence
of a relatively small budget surplus "doesn't mean we should go on a
spending spree."

He said Clinton has proposed new spending in a wide variety of areas but
that "not everything can grow."

"Over the next few days the president will have to choose between
cooperation or confrontation," he said. "We have pledged to cooperate."

On Social Security, Democrats insist Republican plans do not extend the
solvency of Social Security by a single day. At this point Social Security
is projected to go bankrupt in 2034, unless reforms are made, because of the
costs of benefits for baby boomers when they retire.

White House economic advisor Gene Sperling said if the Social Security
surpluses were entirely spent, interest payments on debt held by the public
would be $163 billion in 2011.

But devoting a decade of Social Security surpluses to debt reduction would
slash the debt by $2.1 trillion, cutting interest payments to $56 billion.

That would save $107 billion that would be transferred into the Social
Security Trust Fund in 2011, and growing amounts through 2016. Transfers
would stay at the 2016 level through 2044.

"What it is, it is generating more revenues for the future by saving now,
having lower interest rates, high savings," Sperling said.

Clinton, with little more than a year left in his presidency, said his plan
represents a historic opportunity to protect Social Security for future
generations.

"It will take the trust fund out beyond the life span of the baby boom
generation -- no gimmicks, no budgetary sleight of hand, just the right
choices that really add up to protecting the Social Security surplus," he
said.
http://news.excite.com/news/r/991023/11/clinton-socialsecurity

Folks, If I commented my blood pressure would rise
and that's a No No;  my Dr. has instructed me to
exercise great restraint when I come by information
such as this.

Bard
We don't need a 3rd Party;  we need a 2nd Party!

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[CTRL] Creation and Future

[earthman]

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I have just started listening to the ram below.. Woah, the white horse peace
maker(Egyptians Anunnaki etc) and also ufo technology..

Peter

Well the link below does not work as of today. It is probably just down.
This link is also to one of my receint shows on Sightings on the Radio with
Jeff Rense. http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/9801/end0126.ram


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[CTRL] People Who Have Died After Being on the Art Bell Show

[earthman]

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Art baby, you kill me..

Peter

Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:56:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
People Who Have Died After Being on the Art Bell Show.

>People who have died after being on Art Bell Radio Show
>by Jon Locke
>When I was in Arizona a Paranoid Woman told me, "A lot of people who have
>been on Art Bell are dead now." IT made me stop and think. After coming
>back home I decided to make a list of those I know of who are dead or sick
>after being interviewed on the Art Bell show. Usually for talking too much
>about UFOS.
>
>Jim Keith, author of "BLACK HELICOPTERS - STRIKE FORCE OF THE NEW WORLD
>ORDER." He died recently while working on a book about the death of
>Princess Diana. He was going to mention her three month pregnancy.
>
>Col. Corso. HE wrote the book, "After Roswell." It is about alien UFO
>crashes and what we have learned from them. Reversed technology gotten off
>crashed discs. Some of the alien technology is computer chips, velcro,
>bullet proof vests, and night vision goggles. Though an old man he died
>quickly right after a physical exam which said he was in good health for a
>man his age.
>[The C.I.A. has a weapon which can be pointed at a person and fired. IT is
>electronic and therefore silent. IT sends about a ray, a beam, which when
>it hits the heart causes it to fibulate and quit, giving the impression of
>a heart attack. This is what they did to Richard C. (For Conspiracy)
>Hoagland in Miami. I had a strong premonition he would not leave Miami. He
>went there to help with the Miami Stonehenge Circle. Before it was over he
>was taken into a local hospital with a heart attack. Thank God  he is
>strong enough to survive. Usually if you withstand an attack by the
>NWO/Illuminati/ secret government they will leave you alone. Robert Morning
>Sky was run off the road after being on art bell. HE spoke of the world
>being under the control of a few. But he quit speaking and is alive today.
>Speaking Wind was not so lucky. He spoke on Dec 9, 1998.  He mentioned the
>secret book he found in a monastery in New Mexico five years ago. He said
>anyone caught talking about it is harassed or killed. He died of a "heart
>attack" three days later, Dec 12, 1998. He still has a web site where  you
>an read his interpretations of this book. To hear his reply go to
>artbell.com.
>
>Col. STEVE Wilson was on Operation Pounce. HE retired and started talking
>about it. Whoever a UFO was shot down, Operation Pounce was called upon to
>retrieve the craft and bodies. He said on radio he saw alien bodies. He is
>survived by his wife.
>
>Dannion Brinkley has had three Near Death Experiences. Two before going on
>Art Bell. HE talked about  his service in the paramilitary. HE was flown
>into a south American country. HE was driven to a location. He want inside
>and set booby traps. Then escaped. He said, "I never met an enemy."
>Lighting struck him one day and he changed over night. His story is  a
>fasinating one. HE predicted ETS would be working alongside humans by the
>year 2001.
>
>And of course the beloved Father Malichi, a real Catholic exorcist. He
>predicted a meteor would hit the earth.
>
>Dr. Greer is a regular M.D. he and Shari Adamski, daughter of famous UFO
>contactee of the 50s, George Adamski, went to Washing, D.C. to tell
>Congress about UFOS. They and 200 witnesses lined up. Not kooks either. But
>retired Military men willing to testify and tell their fellow countrymen
>the truth. A month after returning, Shari came down with cancer. A few
>months later she died. Dr. Greer is struggling but still alive. I think he
>took an alternative remedy and stayed alive.
>
>Terrace McKenna went on Art Bell and recommended everybody get stoned in
>order to break thru to the other side. He is sick in bed in a Hospital in
>Hawaii.
>
>How much longer must we be deprived of our right to free speech? Let us all
>pray that this suppression of our rights will soon be lifted.
>Pray to God.
>
>This is a short list. I do not listen to Art Bell every night. IF you can
>think of any others, please let me know.



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[CTRL] Exodus and DNA

[earthman]

 -Caveat Lector-

Ah hem..

Peter

From: www.hiddenmeanings.com

ANNOUNCING A NEW WEB PAGE !

If you will visit the hidden meanings web site I have
given over a new page to a proposal that I will make to you.
The Biblical Story of Exodus and Moses crossing the Red Sea
is mythology, about opening the Genetic Strand and bringing
us all to the promised land of healing, and renewed consciousness
through a cosmic change of DNA.

To give you an idea what you will find in addition to scientific
documentation of this proposal, let me share with you a bit of
Biblical information.

It states in the scripture:

Exodus3:1  Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law,the priest
of
Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of thedesert, and came to the
mountain of God,even to Horeb.

Notice the word backside. Moses came to the backside of the desert and came
to the mountain of God.

Now let me share with you a description of the Book of Life as written in
the
book of Revelation.

Revelation5:1  And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on thethrone a
book written within and on the backside, sealed with sevenseals.

Notice again the word backside as well as the reference to the 7 seals.
These
are the 7 chakras which are positioned at the spine.

The desert is the mind. The backside of the desert is the spine. We ascend
the spine via meditation to the mountain of God.

And when our meditation reaches the top what do we find. The same thing
Moses
found, the burning bush. The Pineal Gland of the brain from whence we
receive
cosmic instruction.

You will also see how Protein Enzyme corrects mutant DNA. How in Exodus two
prime conditions are the First Born and Leaven. Protein means First and
Enzyme means leaven.

Also amazingly this will be connected to Eta Carina, the magnificent star
sending out laser beams into the cosmoc. The root of protein is prow which
means Keel of a Ship, Carina means Keel of a Ship. The 7th chakra. Eta means
7th.

And how do I know that Eta Carina The Keel of the Ship, is giving
instructions
to the scientists of today in making daily DNA healing discoveries.?

Carina , the keel of the ship was named after the Argo which was the ship
sailed by Jason and the Argonauts. The keel of that ship was able to talk
and
in times of danger it would give instructions concerning what to do. The
same
beings who wrote this myth wrote the Bible and gave us the names of the
stars.

The Keel of The  Ship is again giving instructions in the time of danger and
the bondage of disease and mutant consciousness is about to fall.

But remember. When Jason turned his back on what he was supposed to do.
The keel of the ship fell on him.

Please when you have a chance take a look at the web site and at the home
page scroll down till you see MORE DNA. Click there and it will take you to
the new page. Remember is http://www.hiddenmeanings.com

If indeed the new discoveries being made in DNA are fulfilling the Exodus
then we are all about to cross over the Genetic Sea to the promised land of
healing and new consciousness.

This is the true gift of God that you always hoped would come. Far different
then the destruction predicted by the religionists.

Let me know what you think.

Thank you for your friendship, Bill.









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[CTRL] Heavenly Osiris and Earthly Isis? No doubt.

[Tsadowq]

Previous Thread: Re: [CTRL] DIA tidbits

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What Tsadowq originally said:
There is, however, another painting at DIA which never seems to
make it onto the web. It depicts "Mother Earth - Father Sky",
which is basically another way of saying Isis and Osiris.
 
To which sno0wl replied:
I think this is basically inaccurate, if you are 
referring to Egyptian cosmology and mythology.

=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=

Basically inaccurate according to WHO?

Egyptian cosmology and mythology according to WHO?

First, let's ask the following question:
What was the SUBJECT of the original post?

The SUBJECT was the MASONIC LINK with 
Denver International New World Airport.

Since we were discussing the Masonic link to the use 
of symbology at this location, our own understanding 
should at least conform to the definitions that the 
Illuminated Masons themselves would immediately 
recognize from within their own ranks.

The writings of both Grand Commander Albert Pike and 
33° Manly P. Hall are replete with language which clearly 
backs up my statement regarding Mother Earth/Isis and 
Father Sky/Osiris.

The Square, is the symbol of the earth, 
the material baser portion-- It is Isis.

The Compass, is the symbol of the heavens, 
the spiritual and moral portion-- It is Osiris.

The Masonic Square and Compass which graces the 
capstone at Denver's New World Airport represents 
the heavenly Osiris and the earthly Isis.

As I said previously, when my website goes
up, this will be explained in irrefutable detail

.right from the forked tongues of the serpents themselves.

Tsadowq

[CTRL] Fw: [TheEagle-L] Al Gore: Planetary Visionary?

[Nicky Molloy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Al Gore can explain the gaia emphasis perhaps.

Nicky

-Original Message-
From: Scarecrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Eagle List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, 24 October 1999 8:37
Subject: [TheEagle-L] Al Gore: Planetary Visionary?


And here I thought it was George Bush that wanted the NWO. Oh, that's
right, they all do!

Illuminazi propaganda at its best:
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Gore7-99.html



  Al Gore’s Vision of Planetary Oneness

   by Berit Kjos 



 "Al Gore's celebrated new emphasis on ‘religious values’ is as
phony as a three-dollar bill," said WND
 editor Joseph Farah in his July 16 column. "… I truly believe Al
Gore is the point man in a campaign to
 set a fatal trap for America's churches and Christian charities."

 Mr. Farah is right. Vice President Gore’s "faith-friendly" campaign
hides beliefs that oppose
 Christianity and his Baptist roots on every point. The evidence is
in his book, Earth in the Balance -
 Ecology and the Human Spirit.1 It calls for a "panreligious
perspective" that would squeeze
 Christianity into a universalist mold. The old biblical absolutes
simply don’t fit the new global
 spirituality needed as a foundation for a global earth-centered
ethic. Whether Buddhist, Baha’i,
 Native American, or "Christian" (without the cross), each model for
this blended spirituality must
 be:

 · pantheistic: god is all, god is in everything
 · monistic: all are one, all are spiritually interconnected
 · evolving: always ready to adapt to the changing requirements of
our globalist leaders and of the
 Total Quality Management process used to "re-invent government."

 Hard to believe? Then ponder the quotations below. In his book,
Vice President Gore --

 1. Attempts to diagnose the root problem of our Western culture:

  "...we feel increasingly distant from our roots in the
earth... we lost our feeling of
  connectedness to the rest of nature." (page 1)

 2. Finds answers in pantheistic connectedness:

  "A modern prayer of the Onondaga tribe in upstate New York
offers another beautiful
  expression of our essential connection to the earth: 'O Great
Spirit, whose breath
  gives life to the world and whose voice is heard in the soft
breeze... make us wise so
  that we may understand what you have taught us...'" (page 259)

 3. Seeks wisdom from the world’s earth-centered religions:

  "The richness and diversity of our religious tradition
throughout history is a spiritual
  resource long ignored by people of faith, who are often afraid
to open their minds to
  teachings first offered outside their own system of belief.
But the emergence of a
  civilization in which knowledge moves freely and almost
instantaneously throughout the
  world has. . . spurred a renewed investigation of the wisdom
distilled by all faiths. This
  panreligious perspective may prove especially important where
our global civilization's
  responsibility for the earth is concerned." (pages 258-259)

 4. Points to Native Americans as spiritual models:

  "Native American religions, for instance, offer a rich
tapestry of ideas about our
  relationship to the earth. One of the most moving and
frequently quoted explanations
  was attributed to Chief Seattle in 1855. . . . [It was
actually written by Ted Perry for a
  1971 environmental movie]: ‘Will you teach your children what
we have taught our
  children? That the earth is our mother? . . . This we know:
the earth does not belong to
  man, man belongs to the earth. All things are connected like
the blood that unites us
  all.'" (page 259)

 5. Validates ancient goddess worship – which, according to Al Gore,
preceded our biblical
 heritage:

  "The spiritual sense of our place in nature . . . can be
traced to the origins of human
  civilization. A growing number of anthropologists and
archeo-mythologists. . . argue that
  the prevailing ideology of belief in prehistoric Europe and
much of the world was based
  on the worship of a single earth goddess, who was assumed to
be the fount of all life and
  who radiated harmony among all living things. . . .
[Ceremonial sites] seem to confirm the
  notion that a goddess religion was ubiquitous throughout much
of the world until the
  antecedents of today's religions--most of which still have a
distinctly masculine
  orientation--swept out of India and the Near East, almost
obliterating belief in the
  goddess. The last vestige of organized goddess worship was
eliminated by Christianity . .
  . . [I]t seems obvious that a better understanding of a
religious heritage preceding our
  own by so many thousands of year

Re: [CTRL] Fw: MAKE SEATTLE THE CORPORATIONS' STALINGRAD !

[[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 -Caveat Lector-

I suppose it's fitting that the main instigators of this little exercise in
Vive Revolution! should invoke Communist resistance of the Nazis as their
role model for their view of themselves is perhaps similar to that of the
Communists: beyond reproach as they are on the side of humanity. But there
was plenty of blood on both sides' hands in that war.  The irony is that if
the masses mobilised behind this anti-WTO exercise had their way well we'd
all be in statist poverty. Wouldn't that be grand?

I read that Fidel Castro will be in Seattle as well. He has blood on his
hands, an authoritarian government and a lot of poverty to his name, but I
suppose that's all excusable because he has the best of intentions...and it
can't possibly be his fault. Must be those nasty US capitalists. The same
ones which brought us the internet...

I used to be fellow traveller, but I've become terribly cynical over the
years. The blinkered vision of so many leftist/"progressives" which I one
blinked in time now seems positively reprehensible and bigoted...

Unrepentent...

B.D.

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: Fwd: Frequencys USED FOR MASS POPULATION MIND ...

[Das GOAT]

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In a message dated 99-10-22 17:42:08 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>16 and 2.4 kHz
>Beta Waves...15.7 cps
>Alpha Waves..7.85 cps
>Theta Waves...6.66 cps

Those numbers are AVERAGES only.  Frequencies vary individually and across
time, as well as by locus, that is, the DEPTH of cerebral tissue penetrated
by electrodes.
Also, these may in fact not be all that important, since there have been
claims for the existence of a "whole-brain" frequency (360 cps?) that
harmonizes the above three,
which already exist as "harmonics" with a ratio of 1:2:3.

In contrast to the "biofeedback" faddists of the '70s, who took some basic
brainwave discoveries and ran quite a long distance with them, today's
researchers in electro- encephalography are more sophisticated and not so
given to pat answers ...  "Popular" science (for the "masses") is itself a
form of "mind control," since it plays fast and loose with the facts and
over-emphasizes certain things to the detriment of any larger truth.

Back in the early '70s, when I was an EEG test subject at UCSF's Langley
Porter Neuropsychiatric Institute, working under Dr Joe Kamiya (the
discoverer, or at least promoter, of the "alpha wave"), I happened to find
the good doctor's office unlocked and vacant one day ... and I found there,
on his bookshelf, a recently *declassified* paper on "brainwaves" (translated
into English from an Italian translation of the Russian) which included a
listing of the brainwave frequencies identified by Stalin's Soviet scientists
-- and there were more than a DOZEN, correlated with SPECIFIC mental
functions ...
That degree of expertise, according to the text, was achieved in the late
FORTIES ...

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[CTRL] Freedom

[Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard]

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>> Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
>> Declaration of Independence?
>>
>> Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured
>> before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost
their
>> sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.
>> Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the
>> Revolutionary War.
>>
>> They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their
>> sacred honor. What kind of men were they?
>>
>> Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.  Eleven were merchants, nine were
>> farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated.  But
>> they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the
>> penalty would be death if they were captured.
>>
>> Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships
>> swept from the seas by the British Navy.  He sold his home and properties
>> to pay his debts, and died in rags.
>>
>> Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move
>> his family almost constantly.  He served in the Congress without pay, and
his
>> family was kept in hiding.  His possessions were taken from him, and
>> poverty was his reward.
>>
>> Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
>> Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
>>
>> At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British
>> General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters.
>> He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire.  The home was
>> destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
>>
>> Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed.  The enemy jailed
>> his wife, and she died within a few months.
>>
>> John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13
>> children fled for their lives.  His fields and his gristmill were laid to
>> waste.  For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning
>> home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.  A few weeks later
>> he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.  Norris and Livingston
>> suffered similar fates.
>>
>> Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These
>> were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of
>> means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.
>> Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support
>> of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine
>> providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes,
>> and our sacred honor."
>>
>> They gave you and me a free and independent America.  The history books
>> never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War.  We
didn't just
>> fight the British.  We were British subjects at that time and we fought
>> our own government!  Some of us take these liberties so much for
>> granted...We shouldn't.
>>
>> So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday
>> and silently thank these patriots.  It's not much to ask for the price
they
>> paid..
>>
>> LET'S ALL REMEMBER THAT FREEDOM IS "NEVER FREE"
--
Your children are taken from you by force, sent to a school of which you
may or may not approve, to study subjects you don't have to like, under
teachers that you didn't hire, and probably can't fire; and the whole
system is paid for by money extorted from you at the point of a gun.
Given that arrangement as the structural foundation of something as
important as education, we should be surprised by the kids that DO
survive public schooling, rather than the relatively few who don't.
- Ayn Rand on public schools
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[CTRL] The DIA painting: Mother/Earth - Father/Sky

[Tsadowq]

Okay, let's see if it goes through THIS time.

Previous Thread: Re: [CTRL] DIA tidbits

=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=

What Tsadowq originally said:
There is, however, another painting at DIA which never seems to
make it onto the web. It depicts "Mother Earth - Father Sky",
which is basically another way of saying Isis and Osiris.
 
To which sno0wl replied:
I think this is basically inaccurate, if you are 
referring to Egyptian cosmology and mythology.

=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=

Basically inaccurate according to WHO?

Egyptian cosmology and mythology according to WHO?

First, let's ask the following question:
What was the SUBJECT of the original post?

The SUBJECT was the MASONIC LINK with 
Denver International New World Airport.

Since we were discussing the Masonic link to the use 
of symbology at this location, our own understanding 
should at least conform to the definitions that the 
Illuminated Masons themselves would immediately 
recognize from within their own ranks.

The writings of both Grand Commander Albert Pike and 
33° Manly P. Hall are replete with language which clearly 
backs up my statement regarding Mother Earth/Isis and 
Father Sky/Osiris.

The Square, is the symbol of the earth, 
the material baser portion-- It is Isis.

The Compass, is the symbol of the heavens, 
the spiritual and moral portion-- It is Osiris.

The Masonic Square and Compass which graces the 
capstone at Denver's New World Airport represents 
the heavenly Osiris and the earthly Isis.

As I said previously, when my website goes
up, this will be explained in irrefutable detail

.right from the forked tongues of the serpents themselves.

Tsadowq

Re: [CTRL] Convergence: Cycles of Civilization URGENT PLEASE STOP THIS ...

[Das GOAT]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 99-10-21 06:36:09 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>That brings us back to the question of the cycles that we had originally
>discussed. The work of John Major Jenkins in "Maya Cosmogenesis 2012"
>conclusively determines that the Earth's "precessional wobble" of circa
>26,000 years is actually timed by the Earth's relative position to the
>center of the Galaxy.

More or less true, in my view .. The SUN "revolves" around the center of the
Galaxy (at about 26 degrees of the sign Sagittarius) every 250,000 years or
so, if memory serves.  In which case there are 10 Great Years per revolution,
and the Ages would be like the minutes in "hours" on the bigger Galactic
clock.  Very interesting picture, since Homo sapiens is not yet ONE "Galactic
Year" old and 95% of all human history is represented by Paleolithic and
Neolithic cultures -- which weren't so "uncivilized" and actually laid the
foundations for what eventually became Egypt, Sumer, Indus, et al.Also,
if you read "Hamlet's Mill," the bottom line is that our constellations and
zodiac --a projection of archetypal motifs onto the stars, a kind of
"written" record used to teach posterity-- the celestial blueprint was first
created at an astronomically remarkable moment about 6000 BC, when the
GALACTIC plane intersected the path of the sun and planets at the equinoctial
point.   The "apex of the sun's way" is in the constellation of HERCULES --
you know, the Greek Gilgamesh, a "solar" demigod undergoing (in microcosm)
the 12 stages of a process to be understood as a human being's "initiation"
into godhood ...

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[CTRL] Fwd: Heavenly Osiris and Earthly Isis? No doubt.

[Tsadowq]

I am resending this post and attachment
as it appears that it did not go through
the first time (yesterday).

If this is a duplicate mailing

In my very best Maxwell Smart voice: "Sorry, Chief."




Previous Thread: Re: [CTRL] DIA tidbits

=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=

What Tsadowq originally said:
There is, however, another painting at DIA which never seems to
make it onto the web. It depicts "Mother Earth - Father Sky",
which is basically another way of saying Isis and Osiris.
 
To which sno0wl replied:
I think this is basically inaccurate, if you are 
referring to Egyptian cosmology and mythology.

=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=ll=

Basically inaccurate according to WHO?

Egyptian cosmology and mythology according to WHO?

First, let's ask the following question:
What was the SUBJECT of the original post?

The SUBJECT was the MASONIC LINK with 
Denver International New World Airport.

Since we were discussing the Masonic link to the use 
of symbology at this location, our own understanding 
should at least conform to the definitions that the 
Illuminated Masons themselves would immediately 
recognize from within their own ranks.

The writings of both Grand Commander Albert Pike and 
33° Manly P. Hall are replete with language which clearly 
backs up my statement regarding Mother Earth/Isis and 
Father Sky/Osiris.

The Square, is the symbol of the earth, 
the material baser portion-- It is Isis.

The Compass, is the symbol of the heavens, 
the spiritual and moral portion-- It is Osiris.

The Masonic Square and Compass which graces the 
capstone at Denver's New World Airport represents 
the heavenly Osiris and the earthly Isis.

As I said previously, when my website goes
up, this will be explained in irrefutable detail

.right from the forked tongues of the serpents themselves.

Tsadowq

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Fw: Propaganda War on . . . Germans

[Damian B. Cooper]

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At 05:57 PM 10/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>--- Forwarded message follows ---
>
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>Hash: SHA1
>
>   GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE
>!!ALERT!!
>Chris W. Stark - Director
>  P.O. Box 1924
>Crosby, Texas 77532-1924
> Ph. (281) 787-4111  Fax (281) 328-7505
>http://www.GOA-Texas.org
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>   10/21/1999
>
>
> Propaganda War on Guns - The Strategy Unveiled
>   _
> . . . . My
>next visit was to Auschwitz in Poland and some neighboring police
>stations.  Most of the people who lived close by these camps still
>deny knowing what was going on at the time they were in use. I asked
>myself how could they not know?  The answer was………, they had to know.
>Denial, denial, . . . .

No, my dear Doofuss.  The German neighbors deny knowing what was going on
because they DIDN'T KNOW what was going on.  They didn't know what was going
on because:

A.  It was a state secret, and
B. What was allegedly going on according to Allied (and Soviet
Communist)
war propaganda may NOT, in fact,  have been going on.

DBC

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[CTRL] Conspiracy to suppress CTRL?

[Tenorlove]

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I haven't gotten anything from CTRL since early yesterday afternoon.
Did "they" "get to" the list and list owner?
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: [TheEagle-L] The taste of Grey?

[Kris Millegan]

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In a message dated 10/23/99 11:47:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>>Greys taste like copper, according to the Zulu Elder Shaman Credo Mutwa.
>
>Maybe because invertebrate and INSECT blood is based on copper rather than
>iron (hemoglobin)?  No telling HOW "hivelike" those non-mammalian critters
>really are ...

 Have you ever seen info on the naked mole rat? It lives in southern Africa
and is a mammal with an insect like society. One breeding female, a really
strange critter.

Om
k

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Re: [CTRL] No posts for 18.5 hours?

[Kris Millegan]

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In a message dated 10/23/99 12:29:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>In a message dated 10/23/1999 1:24:21 PM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>writes:
>
>> The last post I got yesterday from CTRL was at 5:03 pm, the first one
>I got
>> after that was 11:30 am this morning. That seems like an unusually long
>time
>> between posts. I just want to make sure that I didn't miss a bunch of
>stuff.
>
>I'm confused, too.  Two posts I sent last night haven't shown up yet.
> It
>must just be server delays/problems.
>

yes, indeed.  Lsoft is doing a big upgrade 10/31 and this might be something
aol was doing to work with them or . . . Aol doesn't much communicate with
listowners. Also there seems to be trouble with archive at lsoft, there are
no posts past 10/15. We is paid and ain't over our storage limit, I have sent
missive but tis the weekend, we shall see.

Om
k

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[CTRL] Fwd: More PBS Bias Exposed

[A Szul]

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FYI -- today's paper. But ignored by many others! CEMB has posting
below. See URL

> 10/22
>
> Media bias has again been exposed at the taxpayer-funded TV channel
> that carries shows like Sesame Street and Frontline. This time it
> involves a veteran correspondent who, as CEMB's 'Media Tidbits'
> recently reported, is also a former aide to Democrat President Lyndon
> Johnson.
>
> "The taxpayer-funded Public Broadcasting Service. . .now acknowledges
> it should have disclosed veteran correspondent Bill Moyers' conflict of
> interest on a recent program about campaign-finance reform," writes
> Barbara J. Saffir, in today's "The Washington Times" [see
> http://www.washtimes.com/investiga/investiga1.html].
>
> Saffir writes that, "Neither Mr. Moyers nor PBS alerted viewers that
> the broadcaster is on the payroll of the Florence and John Schumann
> Foundation during documentaries pushing more limits on contributions to
> political campaigns."
>
> Moyers serves as president of the Schumann Foundation, earning a
> $200,000 annual salary.
>
> The Times piece continues, "On one such program of the "Frontline"
> documentary series in June, Mr. Moyers featured the views of three
> experts on campaign-finance reform without telling viewers that their
> organizations received tens of thousands of dollars in grants from the
> Schumann Foundation."
>
> Referring to media ignorance, aka media bias, especially when it comes
> to the media's 'agenda,' the article points out that, "The Moyers story
> has been ignored by most major newspapers, including the New York
> Times, Wall Street Journal, Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times, USA
> Today and Boston Globe."
>
> However, Saffir writes that, "The Washington Post noted it Monday in
> its regular media column."
>
> In the article, Keith Woods, a professor of journalism ethics at
> Poynter Institute in St. Petersburg, Fla., says, "PBS is already
> perceived . . . as being further left than right," Mr. Woods said.
> "What Moyers has done is give people an opportunity to stand up and
> shout 'A-ha, I told you so.'"
>
> The 'campaign-finance reform' matter has been used by some
> [presidential] candidates as an election issue.
>
> This is in addition to the recent startling revelations that dozens of
> [PBS] stations had swapped donor lists with Democrats.
>
> -A
>
> PS: Anyone here know Prof. Woods or have any contacts who could get a
> hold of him and let him know about CEMB? Might be worthwhile.
>
See http://www.egroups.com/group/cemb/fullinfo.html

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Urgent Guatemala banana alert]

[Nurev Ind Research]

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 Original Message 
Subject: Urgent Guatemala banana alert
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:10:57 -0500 (CDT)
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DEL MONTE BANANA UNION LEADERS FORCED AT GUNPOINT TO RESIGN AND FLEE FOR
THEIR LIVES IN GUATEMALA; U.N. TO HOLD PRESS CONFERENCE
posted October 21, 1999

[Information provided by the U.S./Labor Education in the Americas Project:
(773) 262-6502, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

See ACTION REQUEST at end of alert.

SUMMARY

Banana union leaders in Guatemala leading a fight against Del Monte's
firing of nearly 1,000 workers were surrounded at their union headquarters
by 200 heavily armed men on October 13, threatened with death and forced to
resign and abandon their homes. Details of the harrowing experience were
not made public until this week, when the leaders were able to secure safe
houses in Guatemala City along with their families.

The U.N. agency MINUGUA describes the incident as the most serious
violation of human rights in Guatemala since the killing of Archbishop Juan
Jose Gerardi. MINUGUA will hold a press conference in Guatemala City on
October 22 to report the findings of its investigation and its concerns
regarding paramilitary forces operating in violation of the Peace Accords.

The banana union leaders remain in fear for their lives and have asked for
urgent international action to ensure their safety and those of 3,000
banana workers who remain on or near the plantations. They have also called
on Del Monte Fresh Produce to ensure their safety, immediately reject the
forced resignations, respect the union contract and reinstate the fired
workers.

Guatemalan Labor Minister Luis Linares released a statement an October 19
statement also calling on the company to reject the forced resignations and
declaring that the firings were illegal. He has subsequently been attacked
in the Guatemalan press by business leaders.

BACKGROUND

On September 27, Bandegua, a subsidiary of U.S.-based Del Monte Fresh
Produce, notified nearly 900 workers from the district of Bobos in Morales,
Guatemala that they were being dismissed and that three plantations would
be rented out to independent producers. Bandegua gave as its reasoning the
depressed prices of bananas on the world market. The union representing
Bandegua workers, SITRABI, rejected the sudden layoffs as a violation of
its collective bargaining agreement, but the company refused to negotiate.
Mediation by the Guatemalan Labor Minister, Luis Linares, was met with
complete intransigence by the company, although the union even offered to
renegotiate its contract.

The union, which represents not only the nearly 1,000 workers in the Bobos
district but also 3,000 Bandegua workers in nearby Motagua district, then
held a general assembly at which it was decided that on the morning of
October 14 all Motagua workers would simultaneously exercise a provision of
their contract allowing any union member to request 10 days of unpaid absence.

Instead, on the evening of October 13, two hundred heavily armed men with
high caliber weapons and assault weapons came to the union hall, grabbed
two members of the executive committee who were present and forced them at
gunpoint to drive to the home of the general secretary, who was dragged out
of his house and beaten before being taken back to the union hall. Again at
gunpoint, one of the union leaders was forced to call two other members of
the executive committee to "request" their presence at the union hall. They
complied, only to find the union hall surrounded by the armed men. The five
executive committee members of the union who were now captive were General
Secretary Marel Martinez, Secretaries of Conflicts Enrique Villeda and
Fernando Salguero, Secretary of Organization Jorge Palma, and President of
the Advisory Board Lionel McIntosh, also a candidate for mayor of Morales
with the left-of-center alliance Alianza Nueva Nacion. Another 25 or so
workplace union representatives also were present.

According to a report from those who have interviewed the union leaders:

The first to speak was the president of the [local] Chamber of Commerce who
stated that Bandegua had informed them that it would leave Guatemala if the
demonstration were to take place on Oct. 14. He informed the union members
that this could not happen, that the town of Morales would become a ghost
town and for that reason they had to resign from the union.

Then the "commander" of the armed individuals spoke and stated that there
was only one way to correct the problem and it was to kill all of the union
leaders. He ordered th

[CTRL] [b]The Saga of American Society

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
The Saga of American Society
Dixon Wecter
Charles Scribner’s & Son©1970, 1937
Elizabeth Farrar Wecter©1965renewal
LCCCN 78-103633
--[b]--
In the clubs heretofore mentioned, the most acute of all discriminations
between the "ins" and "outs," namely secrecy, has played no part. But
somewhere in the broad domain of human action it is bound to appear. To the
young it gives a sense of personal power, and to the elder it satisfies the
mingled hunger for fancied superiority and the pomp of ritual. Secret
societies in the United States-so far removed from the subterranean religious
and political melodrama of Latin countries—usually attract  either the young
or the socially underprivileged adult, who finds in the password, the grip,
the cabala, a sense of exclusiveness denied him by humdrum reality. In former
times and circumstances, a few secret societies enjoyed considerable social
favor. The first reference to Free Masons in America occurs apparently in
1715 in a letter from the collector of the port of Philadelphia mentioning "a
few evenings in festivity" with his Masonic brethren. In the days of George
Washington many a Virginia planter and New England merchant was a Mason, and
so much democratic distrust was long brewing against the Order that in 1826
the mysterious disappearance of an apostate Mason named William Morgan
enabled Thurlow Weed to exploit the furore and form the Anti-Masonic Party in
politics. During the nineteenth century, particularly in the smaller cities
and towns, all prominent business men of Protestant faith regarded membership
in Masonic lodges as extremely important. Today Masonry is ignored by many
young men of worldly, sophisticated background, and its social standing
appears to be steadily waning. Odd Fellows and Maccabees represent successive
steps downward in the social scale, whatever their useful charities may be.
The craving for honors and distinctions among masses of commonplace Americans
was reflected in the amazing proliferation of secret societies at the close
of the last century. Schlesinger computes that at least 124 new secret orders
were formed between 188o and 1890, 136 within the next five years, and 230
more by 1901. Knights of Pythias and Elks arose during the decade of the
Civil War, and a little laterwith a characteristic wedding of regal splendor
and camaraderie in title -the Knights and Ladies of the Golden Rule, the Sons
of Malta, the Royal Society of Good Fellows, the Prudent Patricians of
Pompeii, and the Concatenated Order of Hoo-Hoo. Negro societies were even
more magniloquent.

But the social standing of the best college societies is quite a different
story. Most of them have been tinctured with secrecy and conspiratorial airs
at some time in their history, and the majority-whether national fraternities
or local clubsstill guard an arcana of ritual, though hardly with the
grimness of half a century ago. The premier college club is without much
doubt the Porcellian at Harvard. No other group which its members may ever
join—and Porcellians always belong to the best clubs in every city—will claim
their affection half so much. No matter how insouciant and disillusioned
about life in general they may become, the most urbane feel a lump in their
throat and a catch at the heart upon thoughts of the Porcellian—even as the
masses are said to respond to the evocation of Home and Mother. A well-known
novelist of the Philadelphia aristocracy, who was elected to the Porcellian
Club fifty-seven years ago, patiently tried to describe to a questioner the
nature of this feeling. "Nothing has ever meant quite so much to me. It is a
bond," he added after a long minute of hesitation, "which can be felt but not
analyzed." Others reply to inquiry with language faintly suggestive of
mysticism, as St. Francis might speak of stigmata or Dante of Beatrice. Not
only is the Porcellian a sacred subject, but belonging is a career in itself,
a cultus. In the houses of members on Commonwealth Avenue, Long Island, or
the Main Line, one finds that they prize and frame photographs of Club
groups, while across the glass suspended from a green and white ribbon hangs
a silver medal in the shape of a star with eight points, bearing crossed
swords, the two dates 1791 and 1831, and the motto Dum vivimus vivamus. A
Porcellian who lives in Greenwich has filled his handsome house from
mud-scraper to rear garden with suckling pigs, hogs, and wild boars in iron,
clay, china, papier-mache, and chromium. And between the fledgling of twenty
and the veteran of seventy exists an extraordinary rapport. This is of course
the ideal of scores of similar clubs, but few outside Porcellian at Cambridge
and Skull and Bones and Scroll and Key at New Haven seem really to achieve it.

The Porcellian is not the oldest of Harvard clubs, being outdated by the
Institute of 1770, which is also patrician at an earlier stage of college
life. In 1791 a few intimate friends, Harvard juniors 

[CTRL] [a]The Saga of American Society

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
The Saga of American Society
Dixon Wecter
Charles Scribner’s & Son©1970, 1937
Elizabeth Farrar Wecter©1965renewal
LCCCN 78-103633
--[a]--

CHAPTER SEVEN

THE GENTLEMAN AND HIS CLUB

FROM the eighteenth century when the Duc de la Rochefoucauld observed "with
melancholy" that American men were too busy "for the enticements of polished
society," to the twentieth when Charles Eliot Norton startled a class of
Harvard undergraduates by the opening remark "I suppose that none of you
young men has ever seen a gentleman," a good deal of material has been
accumulating to show that the gentleman in the more courtly sense is almost
as rare in North America as the heath-hen drumming in solitude upon the dunes
of Martha's Vineyard-another victim of our national ruthlessness. Though
Aristotle sketched the lineaments of the gentleman, with his twelve public
and twelve private virtues in the Nicomachean Ethics, he was really the
creation and darling of feudalism. He was a soldier or shield bearer, as the
word esquire still faintly commemorates. He was also a horseman and
sportsman, a caballero or chevalier, and the smell of saddle leather still
clings about him. Steering a middle course between fop and sloven, scholar
and boor, he lived by the classic maxim of "nothing in excess." He found
courage, patriotism, loyalty, and generosity more attractive than the
churchly and commercial preachments like sobriety, prudence, thrift, and
chastity.[1] Not always consistent, he enshrined women of his own social
class in idealism and exquisite homage, but was not above seducing a few
peasant girls on his way home from the Crusades. But committing even his
peccadilloes with liberality and rakish grace, he relied both here and
hereafter upon the plenary grace of a hearty life. A French lady of the old
regime once said: "Depend upon it—God Amighty thinks twice before he condemns
persons of quality!" While none less than Shakespeare assures us that "The
Prince of Dark-ness is a gentleman." What, between the blunted horns of such
a dilemma, has one to fear?

The cult of materialism in America and the furore of competition during its
building era conspired against the gentlemanly character, for, as William
Butler Yeats has lately said, "A gentleman is a man whose principal ideas are
not connected with his personal needs and his personal success." Yet at the
heart of American conduct there is surely as much essential kindness,
generosity, and desire to do the right thing as was found when knighthood was
in flower. Often it appears quite independently of grammar, occupation, and
affluence. It has been justly remarked that the filling-station attendant has
done more to raise the standard of courtesy en masse in the United States
than all the manuals of etiquette. The wife of a master at Groton, spending a
winter's holiday in South Carolina, was startled when-upon the stalling of
her automobile near a remote country crossroads-the engineer of a "mixed"
train stopped his locomotive, repaired her motor, and tipped his greasy cap
as he climbed back into the cab. Not all of those who have salvaged bits of
the gentlemanly character from the wrack of industrialism are behind plate
glass on Commonwealth Avenue.[2]

Yet the social club in America has done a great deal to keep alive the
gentleman in the courtly sense. Here is his peculiar asylum from the
pandemonium of commerce, the bumptiousness of democracy, and the feminism of
his own household. Here he is technically invisible from the critical female
eye—a state of bliss reflected in the convention that a gentleman never bows
to a lady from a club window, nor according to the best form discusses ladies
there. The club is his Great Good Place, with its comfortable and slightly
shabby leather chairs, the pleasantly malt-like effluvium of its bar, the
newspaper room with a club servant to repair quickly the symptoms of
disarray, the catholicity of magazines from highbrows to La Vie Parisienne whi
ch in less stately company would seem a trifle sophomoric, the abundant
notepaper, the good cigars and hearty carnivorous menus, and the waiters who
are not to be tipped from New Year to Christmas. And perhaps most important
of all, the friends with whom one sits down to a rubber of bridge after five
o'clock, on the way home. They are the men with whom one grew up, saw through
prep school and college, attended at their weddings-and whom the survivors
will accompany decently in gloves to their long home in Mount Auburn or
Sleepy Hollow. They are the good fellows in whose essential infallibility one
is bound to believe. Here we have no poor losers, bounders, muckers, or
cads—and if one should take a cocktail too many and speak with loosened
tongue, nobody outside is the wiser. And if by inconceivable chance one finds
himself unable immediately to go home, there is always a pleasant bed
upstairs in a room of bachelor's asceticism still redolent of pipe tobacco
and toilet wate

Re: [CTRL] skeptinews interruptus

[Tenorlove]

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Ric, the night before Windows went belly-up on you, did you happen to
spend several hours downloading the contents of your entire bookmark
file (almost 50 MEGS of data), with the good intention of backing
everything up on floppies after you got some shuteye? If so, you're not
alone, it happened to me 3 weeks ago. I believe there is a conspiracy,
I have NO IDEA who the aitch-ee-double-toothpicks is responsible, to
make sure that your technical difficulties take place in direct
proportion to the amount of work you did, and in inverse proportion to
the amount of saving/backing up you did.

Tenorlove
who is still re-building her lost files.

P.S. Make an emergency boot disk--and MAKE SURE that your CD-ROM driver
is installed on this disk. You will need it to re-install Win98. Win98
is only available at the store in CD-ROM. If you use the emergency
restore disk that came with your computer, you will format the hard
drive. I speak from devastating experience. You may also wish to set
DOS up to recognize your CD-ROM drive.
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Re: [CTRL] skeptinews interruptus

[Tenorlove]

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Ric, the night before Windows went belly-up on you, did you happen to
spend several hours downloading the contents of your entire bookmark
file (almost 50 MEGS of data), with the good intention of backing
everything up on floppies after you got some shuteye? If so, you're not
alone, it happened to me 3 weeks ago. I believe there is a conspiracy,
I have NO IDEA who the aitch-ee-double-toothpicks is responsible, to
make sure that your technical difficulties take place in direct
proportion to the amount of work you did, and in inverse proportion to
the amount of saving/backing up you did.

Tenorlove
who is still re-building her lost filess.

P.S. Make an emergency boot disk--and MAKE SURE that your CD-ROM driver
is installed on this disk. You will need it to re-install Win98. Win98
is only available at the store in CD-ROM. If you use the emergency
restore disk that came with your computer, you will format the hard
drive. I speak from devastating experience. You may also wish to set
DOS up to recognize your CD-ROM drive.
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Re: [CTRL] No posts for 18.5 hours?

[Sammark4]

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In a message dated 10/23/1999 1:24:21 PM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

> The last post I got yesterday from CTRL was at 5:03 pm, the first one I got
> after that was 11:30 am this morning. That seems like an unusually long
time
> between posts. I just want to make sure that I didn't miss a bunch of stuff.

I'm confused, too.  Two posts I sent last night haven't shown up yet.  It
must just be server delays/problems.

Samantha

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[CTRL] Smith & Wesson joins Colt in Compromise with Enemy

[Bob Stokes]

 -Caveat Lector-

   GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE
!!ALERT!!
Chris W. Stark - Director
  P.O. Box 1924
Crosby, Texas 77532-1924
 Ph. (281) 787-4111  Fax (281) 328-7505
http://www.GOA-Texas.org
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   10/23/1999


Smith & Wesson joins Colt in Compromise with enemy
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NOTE FROM CHRIS STARK, DIRECTOR OF GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE (GOA-TEXAS):
Here is S&W's contact information. Please tell S&W to resist compromise
at any cost!! Our enemy will never be happy until they have placed the
hangman's noose around our necks!!


Smith & Wesson (S&W)
Ed Shultz, President & CEO
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01104
Tel: 1-800-331-0852
Fax: 1-413-747-3317
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


#  #  #  #


First it was Colt.

To some extent, the revelation is not new of Colt's owner contributing
several thousand dollars to anti-gun Senator Charles Schumer's campaign,
and many thousands of dollars to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign
Committee, in which anti-gun Frank Lautenberg, Daniel Moynihan, Diane
Feinstein Barbara Boxer and Ted Kennedy draw their campaign funds.

Then, we reported on 10/09/1999, most of Colt's handgun line have been
recently discontinued (except to Military and Police) and will not be
sold to the general public. Of course, we also learned of a meeting in
Washington D.C., 27 September 1999 between major handgun makers and the
attorneys general of New York and Connecticut, and Philadelphia Mayor
Ed Rendell. Smith & Wesson, and officials from Sturm, Ruger & Company,
Colt's Manufacturing, O. F. Mossberg & Sons, Taurus, Glock and Beretta
reportedly began negotiating their way out of lawsuits by governmental
agencies, at this meeting.

Negotiate? What is there to negotiate?

What does it take for the gun manufacturers to understand that our enemy
will never be happy until they have placed the hangman's noose around our
necks? Do they have to go to a meeting to negotiate just how tight our
enemy gets to place the noose around our necks?

Folks, it matters little to our enemy if we make compromises, and give a
small amount of our rights away in hopes of appeasing their lust to destroy
the American Bill of Rights. COMPROMISE NEVER HAS, OR EVER WILL PASSIFY THE
CLOSET SOCIALISTS BENT ON GUN CONTROL! THEY WILL ALWAYS COME BACK FOR MORE
UNTIL THEY HAVE COMPLETELY REPEALED THE 2nd AMENDMENT! HISTORY DOES NOT LIE!


#  #  #  #


NOW, Enter Smith & Wesson:


The Associated Press
S P R I N G F I E L D, Mass.

Oct. 22 - The nation's largest handgun manufacturer is requiring dealers
in its collective advertising program to sign a code of ethics designed
to prevent the illegal sale of guns.

More than three-quarters of Smith & Wesson's 3,500 registered dealers in
the program have signed the agreement since the company began mailing them
in mid-July, said Paul Pluff, manager of retail sales.

Among other things, the code requires dealers to obey all firearms laws,
sell only Smith & Wesson guns with safety locks and to closely monitor
buyers to avoid illegal purchases.

The Springfield-based company warned that dealers will be dropped from
collective advertisements and won't receive other marketing help if they
run afoul of the law or fail to sign the agreement by the end of the year.


NOTE FROM GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section
107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who
have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
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If we look at the requirements to obtain a Federal Firearms License (FFL),
and the strict regulations thereafter that are enforced by the BATF, one
would have to ask what this so called "code ethics statement" that Smith
& Wesson expects all FFL's to sign (or they will not do business with that
dealer) will accomplish.

An FFL dealer goes through an FBI criminal background check before issued
their dealers license, FFL's are fingerprinted, FFL's are interview by BATF
agents, they MUST have a place of business (cannot setup shop at home), and
FFL's are inspected at least once per year by BATF inspectors. FFL's (gun
dealers) must also cooperate with any BATF enforcement officer in a criminal
investigation on any firearm he sells from his store that might be used in a
crime, even if the FFL's gun transaction was perfectly legal. Even if the gun
was stolen from his original customer. Even if the gun had exchanged hands 20
times since the

[CTRL] No posts for 18.5 hours?

[Maggie]

The last post I got yesterday from CTRL was at 5:03 pm, the first one I got 
after that was 11:30 am this morning. That seems like an unusually long time 
between posts. I just want to make sure that I didn't miss a bunch of 
stuff.

[CTRL] States, corporate law, and corporations.

[Nurev Ind Research]

 -Caveat Lector-

10 22 99
If corporations can do it so can citizens. Vote in ONLY politicians who
will change the corporate laws to OUR benefit.

Joshua2
==

Ohio House Bill 78 the "modernization" of general corporation law is on
its way to Ohio Gov. Taft for his signature.  This bill is anything
but, a modernization of corporation law.  Rather than making corporate
law more transparent and providing for disclosure, HB78 makes
corporate law more opaque and provides for secrecy.

HB78, also grants further legal immunities to corporate directors and
officers.  It changes the focus of the law from having
directors/officers proving they were not acting against shareholder
interests to saying they were not acting against shareholder interests!

I found out about this bill on Columbus Day and started alertring our
USWA and AFL-CIO worthies in Ohio.  HB 78 was total stealth legislation.
The corporations wanted it and wanted it bad and none of our friends
of labor in the general assembly had tipped us off!

At this point we are still not sure what all is in this bill or what it
all means.  This bill is not strictly a labor bill because it will have
an effect on the citizens of  Ohio in general.  The bill could effect
such diverse constituencies as 401(k)'s invested in an employee's own
company's stock, esops, savings and loans, widows&orphans and tax
abatements etc. etc.

Our friends of labor have said on this legislation, whoever thought
organized labor would be interested in a corporate law bill?  Our
friends of labor have forgotten that we negotiate and deal with
corporations everyday and in everyway.  If HB78 had been a labor law
bill---you can be damn sure the corporations would have been all over
it!

So far, only two Ohio newspapers have picked up on this story.  One of the two
newspapers
planning stories is thanks to Seth Ackerman of Fair/Extra!

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[CTRL] CITIZEN'S GUIDE TO THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION!

[Nurev Ind Research]

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:02:33 -0400
From: Mike Dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Check it out!

Your "one-stop" WTO web site is now up and running:



The calendar of all the events planned for Seattle are posted here,
you can sign up to volunteer, find housing during the Ministerial,
learn more about the WTO and globalization, find tons of great links
to organizations, and find out what YOU can do to STOP the WTO! This
page will be updated almost daily, so make sure to bookmark it and
check it often.

A special thanks goes out to Communicopia ()
for donating the time and resources to make the great design of the
page.

We hope the site is useful to you, and inspires you to join us in
Seattle Nov. 26 - Dec. 3. for an historic confrontation between civil
society and corporate rule.

If you have suggestions and additions for the page, contact Bill Aal
at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Global Trade Watch
Public Citizen
and the
Citizens Trade Campaign
as well as
People for Fair Trade
not to mention
Network Opposed to the WTO


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Re: [CTRL] 300,000$ reward, bunk. . .

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In a message dated 10/22/99 6:52:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> It obviously didn't happen in your case, but when I
>  read Mercier's letter to Armon Condo the countless
>  loose ends and endless contradictions found in all
>  other Tax Protestor theories suddenly vanished;
>  everything made sense: Ordo ab Chao. IMO, if you can't
>  'get it' by reading Mercier's "The Armon Condo Letter"
>  and "Invisible Contracts", then you certainly can 'get
>  it' by reading my sound bites and analogies.
>
>  Most of the other Tax Protestor research I've seen is
>  based on constitutional loopholes or tort arguments of
>  'fairness'. In and of themselves, some are certainly
>  valid. IMO, if it wasn't for the "Invisible Contracts"
>  making those valid arguments off-point, a lot of those
>  constitutional defenses would be legally potent; but
>  with those contracts present, they're totally impotent
>  (and only occasionally work via random luck -- by jury
>  nullification).
>

I do, and did, understand the gyst of your statements and those in the Armen
C. letter.  The idea is that you are in effect contracting with the Federal
Government, via the Treasury Department, and having my local bank be
intermediary only.  Thus, and in all other cases of civil CONTRACT LAW, the
constitution DOES NOT apply, meaning that the constitution cannot be used to
nullify contractual agreements, especially when knowingly entered into.  Now
let me ask you this, IF one were to NOT have a bank account, but otherwise
carried on as per normal, ie; used FRN's, etc. . . would that be sufficient
to be "unseen" by the IRS?  OR are there attachments to the use of FRN's, and
if that is the case how is this invisible contract brought to bear?  Where is
it hidden?  What role does the Social Sec. Sys. have in this, since all
people must pay into it (though obviously this is probably grossly
unconstitutional as well), how does one avoid this attachment, especially
since this would give the "King" another avenue to pursue one for the
collection of revenue?  Since courts have ruled that you cannot "opt out" of
the system, how do you get around it?  Is it even necessary in the context of
our discussion?


discussion?  
**
***

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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[CTRL] [Fwd: French caution hampered Kosovo bombing campaign: Short Leon Bruneau]

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Subject: French caution hampered Kosovo bombing campaign: Short Leon Bruneau
Date: 23 Oct 1999 15:00:54 -
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Eternera - http://get.to/eternera

French caution hampered Kosovo bombing campaign: Short
Leon Bruneau

   WASHINGTON, Oct 21 (AFP) - France's insistence on strict
criteria for selecting bombing targets hindered NATO's air campaign
over Yugoslavia, a top US military commander said Thursday.
   Lieutenant General Michael Short, who commanded the NATO air
forces during the Kosovo campaign, told a Senate committee that in
the campaign, "Targeting was a problem to us ... and as you know,
the red card was played by France in particular."
   "There were targets in Belgrade, which I believed were
strategic, that the French forbade us from striking," he added.
   "I'd have gone for the head of the snake on the first night. I'd
have turned the lights out the first night," Short said.
   During the campaign, which lasted from March 24 until June 10,
"The restrictions that were placed on us were extraordinary ... and
it placed our troops at increased risk and made us more
predictable," Short said.
   Allied political leaders should have approved categories of
targets that military forces could strike, rather than approving
each target, Short said in his testimony a Senate Armed Forces
Committee hearing on "The Lessons of Kosovo."
   US Defense Secretary William Cohen recently made a similar
remark, saying that allied political leaders should have decided
which targets were acceptable before the fighting began and then
left the rest to the military.
   After Short's testimony, the Pentagon tried to temper his
remarks with more soothing comments from spokesman Kenneth Bacon.
   "General Short has been known for his candor throughout his
career I think that there is no reason to object to what he
said," Bacon said
   "It's the right of countries to raise objections in an
organization that operates by consensus. Ultimately, the consensus
was met and the air campaign was successful," Bacon said.
   Short said that France had been opposed to any bombing of
Montenegro, which had therefore been almost completely exempted as a
NATO target.
   General Wesley Clark, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's
supreme allied commander in Europe, told the commission that he
concurred with almost all Short's testimony.
   But Clark said American military commanders had close contact
with France throughout the campaign, and that overall political
leaders accommodated the military's needs.
   "The first and foremost lesson learned from Operation Allied
Force is that the NATO alliance worked," he said.
   "Looking back, we should take a lot of pride by what was done by
NATO political leaders."
   "Every nation had a set of different interests ... and yet they
pulled together," Clark said.
   Short said that although he was aware of political
considerations in the NATO campaign.
   But he said of France: "A nation that provides less than eight
percent of the overall contributions to an effort should not be in a
position of restricting American aviators who are bearing 70 percent
of the load ... and who are in harm's way."
   Short told the committee that he personally had favoured a major
air strike against the city of Belgrade itself on the first night of
bombing.


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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS]

[Kris Millegan]

From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

 http://www.thuntek.net/sumeria/politics/grounds.html
Tue Jan 13 17:00:34 1998
A Press Release from the Law Offices of Michael Kennedy
For Immediate Release

DEA FINALLY CONFIRMS THE EXISTENCE OF SUFFICIENT GROUNDS TO REMOVE MARIJUANA
FROM HARD DRUGS SCHEDULE OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES



DEA Refers Marijuana Rescheduling Petition to HHS



Introduction

Recent scientific evidence has forced the US Government through its Justice
Department agency, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), to commence
legally binding procedures that will likely result in the end of marijuana
prohibition.

On December 19th, DEA formally asked the Department of Health and Human
Services to conduct "a scientific and medical evaluation of the available
data and provide a scheduling recommendation" for marijuana and other
cannabinoid drugs. This DEA request of HHS means that the DEA has for the
first time made its own determination that sufficient grounds exist to
remove marijuana from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA).
Schedule I is supposed to be limited to hard drugs with addictive
propensities and with no legitimate medical usage.

The DEA request was made in response to an administrative petition filed
July 10, 1995 by Petitioners Jon Gettman and Trans High Corporation,
publisher of High Times Magazine.

The Petition presents evidence and argument that marijuana and cannabinoids
lack the "high potential for abuse" required for Schedule I and Schedule II
drugs under the (CSA).

Trans-High Corporation, the publishers of High Times, joined with Mr.
Gettman in mid-1995 to provide support for the petition during the
administrative rule-making process. Petitioners are represented by the Law
Offices of Michael Kennedy, which today released a copy of a letter >from
DEA notifying petitioners of the HHS referral.

Petitioners are represented by the Law Offices of Michael Kennedy in New
York City, which today released a copy of the letter from DEA notifying
Petitioners of the HHS referral.

Background.

According to a July 27, 1995, letter from DEA Deputy Administrator Stephen
Greene, accepting the Petition for filing:

"The DEA shall determine within a reasonable period of time whether there
are sufficient grounds to justify removing marijuana . . . from Schedule I .
. .(S)hould DEA determine that there are sufficient grounds, then it must
request a medical and scientific recommendation >from the Secretary of the
Department of Health and Human Services."

Thus DEA can request the advice of HHS only after DEA's investigation
confirms that sufficient grounds exist to remove marijuana from Schedule I.
According to the CSA the findings and recommendations of HHS with regard to
scientific and medical matters are binding on DEA. DEA has never before
voluntarily referred a marijuana rescheduling petition to HHS for binding
review.

The Gettman/High times Petition demonstrates that HHS has never produced a
finding that marijuana actually has the high potential for abuse similar to
heroin or cocaine. A high potential for abuse is required for Schedule I
treatment. Further, the legislative history of the CSA indicates that
Congress only intended for marijuana to remain in Schedule I or II if such a
finding could be produced. This Petition challenges the government to
produce such a finding (where none exists) or be legally required to end
marijuana prohibition by removing marijuana from Schedule I.

Removal of marijuana from Schedule I will require the federal government to
sanction legal distribution of marijuana for medical uses, research and
prescriptions and adopt a regulatory rather than a prohibitory model for
marijuana. The end of prohibition and the advent of regulation will
represent a radical change in the legal status of marijuana in the United
States.

The Petition argues that the discovery of the Cannabinoid Receptor System,
which has enabled scientists to explain the cause of marijuana's
characteristic effects, and provides a basis for making detailed
distinctions among the biological effects of marijuana and other drugs.
These distinctions provide the scientific basis for demonstrating that
marijuana does not have the same high potential for abuse as other Schedule
I or II drugs.

DEA reversal of position.

The DEA to HHS referral represents a historic turn-around for DEA..

Gettman first asked DEA to refer marijuana to HHS for the appropriate
scientific and medical evaluation back in October of 1994. In March 1995, in
a letter to Gettman's congressman, DEA claimed that "unless a substance has
an accepted medical use in the United States, in can only be placed in
Schedule I." By letter dated April 21, 1995, DEA Administrator Thomas
Constantine stated that DEA was:

"unaware of any new scientific studies of marijuana that would lead us to
re-evaluate its classification at this time . . . If Mr. Gett

[CTRL] King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in the Assassination of John F.Kennedy

[Nicky Molloy]

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Sorry don't have the url for this but it may be this
one.(http://www.hoffman-info.com) or try search for this one.Go to Forteana
and the Occult.

Response from Colleen Jones also at the end.
Nicky

Waco is aprox. 31 1/2 degrees N. (about the same latitude as Jerusalem, of
all things!) The federal judge of San Antonio was done-in about 1979. (I
moved to Dallas Apr. 1978, just about the time of "Jonestown".)

Charleston, S.C. is aprox 32.8 N. degrees, not quite "exactly 33 " degrees,
Dallas is aprox 32 3/4 degrees N., a little south of the "33rd" degree.
[ref. ONC aviation charts]

I believe the "Scottish Rite" was formed in Scotland, quite some time before
the "colonies" were formed, [may have been expanded to Charleston much
later] as far as the Scottish Rite, it is inferior to the "York Rite", (of
York, England) the 33rd degree is the highest in the 1st level, I've heard
of at least 4 levels, the 4th is around the 100th degree (give or take a few
degrees).

I'm not an expert or a member of "freemasonry" [too old].

Don't know if this helps any or not . . .


Best Wishes,   John
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From: APFN
To: APFN ONELIST
Cc: WEBMASTER ; Clive Doyle
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 1:38 AM
Subject: SNET: King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in the Assassination of
JohnF.Kennedy


Note, I've been told of recent that most of the current shootingS and
such are on the 33rd degree of latitude.  Where's Waco?

Charles Harrelson, a suspected Kennedy assassin, is
incarcerated in a Federal prison for the contract killing of a federal
judge.
Was this the Federal Judge from Texas? At the time it was a very big
story... does anyone have details...? Oh! "The Inn of Tower", in Dallas,
yes some of you remember and know!

Important "protective" strategy for Dealey Plaza was planned by the New
Orleans
CIA
station whose headquarters were a Masonic temple building. Dallas, Texas is
located
ten miles north of the 33rd degree of latitude. The 33rd degree is the
highest
in
Freemasonry and the founding lodge of the Scottish Rite in America was
created
in
Charleston, South Carolina, exactly on the 33rd degree line.

NOW WHAT?

King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in the Assassination of John F.Kennedy
http://www.hoffman-info.com/kingkill33.html

PRINCESS DIANA: CRUSHED
BETWEEN THE EAST AND THE WEST
EVERYBODY IS SAYING CHARLES IS 666?  IS THIS POSSIBLE?
IF SO THEN WHAT?  IF NOT, THEN WHAT?
http://www.mcn.org/b/poisonfrog/diana/page1.htm







Preface to King-Kill/ 33:  James Shelby Downard's Vision
The essay "King-Kill/33" has been out of print since 1987 and the
publication of the first edition of Adam Parfrey's conspiracy anthology,
'Apocalypse Culture.' Subsequent editions of 'Apocalypse Culture' (including
the current Feral House edition), do not carry it.

The Campaign for Radical Truth in History (http://www.hoffman-info.com) is
pleased to make this landmark article available once again, on the occasion
of the 33rd anniversary of the immolation of America's only Catholic
president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy. May his surviving murderers be yet
brought to justice.

Convicted Mafia hit-man Charles Harrelson, a suspected Kennedy assassin, is
incarcerated in a Federal prison for the contract killing of a federal
judge. (The suspect is the father of "Natural Born Killer" movie star Woody
Harrelson, who was directed by "JFK" filmmaker Oliver Stone). Journalists
have thus far shown little interest in attempting to interview the senior
Harrelson and persuade him to provide information which might lead to the
arrest and conviction of those responsible for Kennedy's killing.

84 year old James Shelby Downard remains engaged in research and
investigation and has recently consulted with this writer on the case of Ted
Kaczynski, the FBI's alleged "Unabom" -er.

Mr. Downard's primal way of looking at things, which is the way I think
ancient man perceived the world, encompasses a vision that detects every
link and every symbol, beginning with the significance of names, then places
and then the obsessive actions which stem from the confluence of the two and
which have come to be known as ritual. Publisher Adam Parfrey, who first
brought Shelby's work to a mass audience, states:

"In Downard's writings, the products of his subconscious bubble to the
surface and catalyze painstaking research. The collision of the poetic
against the logical works especially well in the field of conspiracy; it
remains the freshest approach to a field of inquiry..."

I remember sitting in Shelby's airstream trailer in St. Petersburg, Florida
in 1977, along with the great Fortean philosopher William N. Grimstad and
Charles Saunders, a brilliant recluse who was a close friend of Jack Kerouac
toward the end of the Beat writer's life (a fact missed by every one of
Kerouac's numerous biographers; so much for biographers).

Shelby's conversation that day ranged from the 

Re: [CTRL] Escherlon

[Dave]

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart



From: Jamie Shafer Do not ask me for a URL, as this article DID NOT appear
in the online version of the New York Post. I had to scan it in order to
share it with the list members, whom I esteem highly. wonder why they didn't
put this online.
New York Post
Friday, Oct. 22, 1999
By Niles Lathem

High-tech U.S. spy post drawing international ire
An ultra-secret U.S. listening post in the moors of northern England is at
the center of an international storm over whether the U.S. government is
spying on businesses and ordinary citizens.
Recent investigations by the European Parliament of the activities at the
Menwith Hill center - a National Security Agency installation that
reportedly intercepts 2 million phone calls a minute - has sparked charges
the U.S. government is operating like a global Big Brother.
"Private communications... are being culled out of the entire spectrum
without any judicial process," said Simon Davies, director of Privacy
International in London. The uproar over Menwith Hill has led to calls in
Congress for a full-scale probe over NSA's operations to determine if it is
exceeding its mandate to monitor matters of national security, like the
operations of terrorists, money launderers, nuclear proliferators and
international bandits.
Civil-liberties groups staged an unusual protest yesterday in which
supporters were urged to deluge phone lines and e-mails with provocative
words like "fissionable plutonium," in order to jam a controversial NSA
computer system known as Echelon.
It was not known whether the protest succeeded.
The NSA, the largest and most secretive U.S. intelligence agency, refused to
confirm or deny the existence of Echelon.
"NSA operates in strict accordance with U.S. laws and regulations in
protecting privacy rights of U.S. persons," the agency said in a statement.
The station and others like it was built in 1966 under a secret agreement
known as UKUSA between the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand,
and was originally designed to intercept communications of Soviet-bloc
countries.
Now, almost a decade after the end of the Cold War, Menwith Hill has been
undergoing a dramatic expansion, with a staff of 1,400 and more than two
dozen "radomes," giant-sized, golf-ball-like structures covered with Kevlar
that contain satellite and radar dishes on its 560-acre campus. Inside are
operations with code names like "Moonpenny," and "Steeplebush," linking spy
satellites and ground stations around the globe to a sophisticated computer
processing system known as Echelon. These operations suck all
communication - by cell phone, e-mail or fax - out of the sky. In them,
Echelon looks for key sequences of words - things that might he found in
communications among terrorists.
Wayne Martsen, a former Navy computer specialist who worked at the NSA, told
The Post the agency is intercepting 95 percent of all electronic
communications in the world. Martsen says the NSA, which is prohibited by
law from spying on U.S. citizens, is nevertheless working with the FBI and
is installing "sniffing" software in Internet superhubs in most major cities
to intercept e-mails.

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[CTRL] MICROWAVE HARASSMENT AND MIND-CONTROL EXPERIMENTATION

[Dave]

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

http://www.webcom.com/~pinknoiz/coldwar/ciaradiation.html


MICROWAVE HARASSMENT AND MIND-CONTROL EXPERIMENTATION
http://www.webcom.com/~pinknoiz/coldwar/microwave.html
SUPPLEMENT
Whither the KGB?
PART 1 - THE PROBLEM SURFACES
The Existing Directed-Energy Arsenal
BIOEFFECTS OF MICROWAVE RADIATION
CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT
PRELIMINARY FINDINGS
PART II -- OVERT AND COVERT HARASSMENT
OVERT HARASSMENT
MIND-CONTROL EXPERIMENTATION
by, Julianne McKinney
Director, Electronic Surveillance Project
Association of National Security Alumni
December 1992


CIA- Interim Report of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments
http://www.webcom.com/~pinknoiz/coldwar/ciaradiation.html


Artichoke Project
Bluebird Project
Pandora Project
Mk-Delta Project
Mk-Naomi Project
Mk-Action Project
Mk-Search Project
Mk-Ultra Project
http://www.pufori.org/articles/mk_ultra.htm

Electromagnetic Mind Control Concepts
http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html

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[CTRL] "Africa, Haven For Arms Dealers"

[Kris Millegan]

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from:alt.conspiracy
As, always, Caveat Lector
Om
K
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Subject: Africa, Haven For Arms Dealers
From: "Andrew Northbrook" mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">rutherfor
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Date: Fri, 22 October 1999 08:33 PM EDT
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(AN note: the following article can be found at:
http://asia.yahoo.com/headlines/211099/world/940498800-91021094007.newsw
orld">http://asia.yahoo.com/headlines/211099/world/940498800-91021094007.newsw
orld
.html )

Arms sellers profit from African conflicts

LONDON, Oct 21 (AFP) - Arms sales saw little growth on a world scale last
year, but the multitude of regional conflicts in sub-Saharan Africa led to a
near-doubling in deliveries there, according to the IISS think-tank.
In a report published Thursday, the International Institute of Strategic
Studies put arms sales at 56.9 billion dollars (52.6 billion euros) in 1998,
up from 56 billion dollars a year before but a slight fall once inflation is
considered.

Compared to the traditional big-spenders, of course, such as Saudi Arabia
and Taiwan, sub-Saharan Africa represents only a small fraction of the world
market.

But its share rose from 1.8 percent to 3.0 percent last year, as much as
Latin America which has incomparably more wealth.

Three-quarters of sub-Saharan countries are in conflict, or threatened by
armed groups, for reasons as much to do with economics as politics. More
than half the world's conflicts are in the region.

And contrary to perceived opinion, the breadth of weaponry in use is
impressive: second-hand light arms as well as the latest Russian fighter
planes were delivered recently to Ethiopia and Eritrea.

Economic growth was hardly anything to shout about in the region -- around
one percent without taking inflation into account. But money was not lacking
for weapons, partly financed by "friendly" countries such as Iran helping
Sudan and Libya aiding the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Africans living outside the continent also supported the war effort, as did
foreign companies implanted in the countries, via export duties and tax
concessions.

Even some money destined as international aid was probably siphoned off en
route through the International Monetary Fund and World Bank to fund arms
purchases, the IISS experts said.

"This is raising questions about the multilateral banks' inadvertent role as
financiers to Africa's wars," they added.

In some cases, expenditure on weapons rose to burdensome levels. Eritrea, in
conflict with Ethiopia, devoted 36 percent of its gross domestic product on
arms purchases.

Sub-Saharan Africa excepted, world arms sales varied little in 1998. In
spite of falling oil prices, Saudi Arabia remained the top buyer, taking
delivery of 10.4 billion dollars (9.6 billion euros) worth of goods, down
slightly from 11 billion in 1997.

Taiwan, wary of the perceived threat from China, paid 6.3 billion dollars
for weapons.

Israel, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Singapore were also big buyers,
each spending about one billion dollars. Europe as a whole accounted for 33
percent of arms purchases.

As for suppliers, France saw its share of the market rising from 13.2
percent in 1997 to 17.6 percent last year. It thus became the world's second
biggest arms seller, although a long way behind the United States which
hogged 48.6 percent of the market.

Britain was in third place with a 16.2 percent share. In fourth was Russia,
whose 5.1 percent was a slight increase.

The year was also marked by an acceleration in the rate of industrial
concentration, the IISS noted, encouraging the development of programmes
involving the US arms manufacturing sector as well as the European.

Such concentration is the only way of combining the latest technological
advances with cost reductions.

--
think about it,
Andrew Northbrook
Ask Amadou Diallo if the police should be the only ones to own guns.







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Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How many Democrats does it take to screw in a light bulb?

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Depends on how small shape-shifter Clinton can shrink himself! 
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[CTRL] Mom of Columbine Victim Kills Self

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Mom of Columbine Victim Kills Self

DENVER (AP) -- The mother of a student wounded in the Columbine High School
massacre walked into a suburban pawn shop Friday, asked to see a handgun,
loaded it and killed herself with a shot to the head.

Carla June Hochhalter's suicide occurred about six months after her
17-year-old daughter, Anne Marie, was critically wounded in the April 20
tragedy and left paralyzed from the waist down.

It was not immediately clear if her suicide was connected to the shootings.

Ms. Hochhalter, 48, entered the Alpha Pawn Shop in Englewood Friday morning
and asked to see a handgun.

When a clerk turned around to fill out paperwork, Ms. Hochhalter loaded the
weapon and fired one round that hit the wall and a second round into her
head, Englewood police spokeswoman Leticia Castillo said.



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http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpne15.htm

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[CTRL] A little fun, guys!

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   The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is
 4 feet 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.
 Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England,
and English expatriates built the US railroads.
 Why did the English build them like that? Because the first rail
 lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad
 tramways, and that's the gauge they used.
 Why did 'they' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the
 tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building
 wagons, which used that wheel spacing.
 Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?
 Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would
 break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because
 that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.
 So who built those old rutted roads? The first long distance roads
 in Europe (and England) were built by Imperial Rome for their
 legions. The roads have been used ever since. And the ruts?
 Roman war chariots first made the initial ruts, which everyone else had to
match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels and wagons.
 Since the chariots were made for, or by Imperial Rome, they were
 all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.
 Thus, we have the answer to the original question.
 The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives
 from the original specification for an Imperial Roman war chariot.
 Specifications and bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you
 are handed a specification and wonder which horse's rear came up
 with it, you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman war
 chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of
 two war-horses.
 And now, the twist to the story...
 There's an interesting extension to the story about railroad gauges
 and horses' behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its
 launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides
 of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs.
 Thiokol makes the SRBs at their factory at Utah. The engineers who
 designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter,
 but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the
 launch site. The railroad line from the factory had to run through a
 tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel.
 The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the
 railroad track is about as wide as two horses behinds.

 So, the major design feature of what is arguably the
 world's most advanced transportation system was determined by the
 width of a Horse's ass!

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[CTRL] FW: United Nations Poised to Impose One World Government

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Subject: RE: FWD: United Nations Poised to Impose One World Government

This is being forwarded to you by Larry A. Rice, known as larice on the web.

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>Subject: United Nations Poised to Impose One World Government
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>
>
>EXTREMELY URGENT  **  EXTREMELY URGENT
>
>United Nations Poised to Impose One World Government
>
>Charter 99 - The Charter for Global Democracy
>
>In September 2000,  less than a year from now, the United Nations
>will convene a special Millennium Assembly as a global summit on
>the future of the world.  This event will crown a decade of
>preparation to launch the new millennium on a new system of
>global governance.
>
>The blueprint for this event was published by the UN Commission on
>Global Governance in 1995.
>
>Now, a Charter to achieve global governance has been developed
>for presentation at the Millennium Assembly in September 2000.
>
>It is called The Charter for Global Democracy and  will be
>published publicly on UN day, Sunday, October 24th, 1999 .
>It has already been signed by influential leaders in 56 nations, and
>has the support of civil society non-government organizations
>around the world.
>
>In reality this document is a Charter for the abolition of individual
>freedom.
>
>YOUR help is desperately needed to save American sovereignty.
>
>Click here [  http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin/a87.htm ]  to read
>the document (and much more) AND for instructions on how YOU
>can join tens of thousands of other freedom loving Americans to
>oppose subordinating America to the dictatorship of the
>United Nations.
>
>If you have email only, and do not have access to the internet,
>please let me know and I will be happy to send you a copy of
>Charter99 via email.
>
>Due to urgency of this situation TCAN respectfully request all
>readers to forward this message to the maximum extent possible.
>
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Sent by Larry A. Rice, in accordance with the desire of  Retired Col. Tomlin

my URL is http://www.christianparents.com

my vision is to publish and distribute an informative newsprint teaching on
the foundations of America, to help influence the elections towards godly
men winning the vote.
All this is shown by my web site, www.christianparents.com

Larry A. Rice

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[CTRL] SCIENCE HAS NOW PROVEN THAT WE EXIST OUTSIDE OF OUR PHYSICAL BODIES

[earthman]

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From: RJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Biological Cellular Leadership:

Who's talking to your DNA?!

Conference and Luncheon

Presented By Bruse Lipton, Ph.D. & Pani Gonklin! M.Ht.

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 1999

Hyatt Westlake Plaza
880 S. Westlake Blvd.
Westlake Village, CA 91361

SCIENCE HAS NOW PROVEN THAT WE EXIST OUTSIDE OF OUR PHYSICAL BODIES

  This special day is presented to those doctors/professionals who are
courageous leaders willing to step forward to expand the consciousness
of medicine.

THIS CONFERENCE IS A MUST FOR THOSE WHO WANT Tb KNOW:

· A NEW AND EXCITING VIEW OF THE UNDERSTANDING OF CELLULAR BIOLOGY

· HOW THE WORDS OF THE TRANSPLANT DONOR ARE TRANSFERRED TO THE
 RECIPIENT

· THE DOCUMENTED SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS THAT THE NUCLEUS IS NOT THE BRAIN
OF THE CELL AND THE DNA DOES NOT REGULATE ONE'S HEALTH

· WHAT CHANGES IHE DNA'S STRUCTURE

· HOW HAS SCIENCE PROVEN SPIRITUALITY EXISTS

  Bruce Lipton, Ph.D. ...celluiar biologist, award-winning lecturer and
author, was formerly an Associate Professor of Anatomy at the University
of Wisconsin's School of Medicine, were he taught medical students and
researched muscular dystrophy.  He began a course of study integrating
principies or quantum physics with molecular information processing
systems in cell biology. His research recognized that the cell membrane
was the cell's equivalent of the "brain".

  Dr Lipton's academic knowledge on cell and organismal control
mechanism have been applred to redefine his own life and bring about
immediate and profound changes   He has since become an internationally
recognized authority in bridging science and spirituality, and is a
sought after keynote presenter for national organizations. His
wonderfully unique way of presenting the integration of quantum physics
with leading edge discoveries in cellular biology provides us with
insight into the communication channels that molecularly integrate the
mind-body duality.

  Patti Conklin, M.Ht.  Medical Intuitive and author of "Healing Within"
Patti has a very rare sight which "sees" vibration and geometry of every
object and/or form--animate or inanimate.  This sight, present since
birth, was much like an x-ray machine in her early years.  She has spent
her life "watching individuals speak and then closely watching the
"word" make a carbon copy and store within the cells of the physical
body..  Each illness and disease has a core issue stored within the
cellular structure, even traumatic accidents will store within the
cells, making recovery sometimes very difficult Patti's sight allows her
the rare opportunity to share how our bodies can provide the information
necessary to heal. Patti does not "diagnose" disease.  She is not a
physician, nor does she pretend to be.  She works with medical doctors
and patients all over the world. In addition, she assists in research
studies where her sight can give unique glimpses into yet unseen worlds.

  Patti shares with the medical profession a rare insight into intuitive
Medicine---Cellular Memory.  How can a cellular body give information to
you, the physician, to assist in it's own care? It has become very clear
with the increase in organ transplants that individuals are beginning to
"change behavior" with the receipt of a transplanted organ.  She
explains how the "words" of the transplant donors are stored within the
organ and then transferred to the recipient.   Vibrational energies
within the organs can be shifted so that anti-relection medicines are no
longer necessary or tremendously reduced.

Hosted by Dr. Celeste Waters and Deborah Nickson

For more information call:
818-707-3720 or
FAX 818-707-1812

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[CTRL] Cell Phones Safety Alert

[earthman]

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Show for OCT 23 on Laura Lee

Dr. Henry Lai: Cell Phones Safety Alert
> A research professor of bioengineering at the University of
> Washington, Dr. Lai has researched the effects of radiation since
> 1980, finding effects from DNA to learning behaviors. Exposure
> to the radiofrequency radiation common to cell phones, radar,
> TV, AM/FM radios, remote controls of all types (for toy cars
> and airplanes as well as for the television) for 45 consecutive
> minutes can cause disruption of the neurotransmitters responsible
> for memory. Another problem is damage to the DNA. Cells
> repair their DNA, but the danger is in putting it back together.
> Putting it together wrong can cause mutations, some of which
> may turn a cell cancerous. Is the effect of radiofrequency
> radiation cumulative over time?  Hear the studies that answer
> that question.
THE LAURA LEE SHOW WEBSITE:
> http://www.lauralee.com
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[CTRL] Small Engine Plans"

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http://www.friend.ly.net/GEET/plans.htm
Paul & Molley Pantone founders of Global Environmental Energy Technology and
GEET Management, LLC recently announced that they would release their "Small
Engine Plans" (< 20 HP) for FREE! This is a shareware release for "Private
Use Only" to convert small gasoline stationary electric generators up to 10
kW! High school students with no technical background have been able to
successfully build and run an engine over a weekend from plans.

They are doing this to benefit mankind and to help save lives if Y2K
electrical supply problems are a reality. They will also accept voluntary
contributions if builders would like to donate the original plans cost of
$75 to help defer costs of developing larger versions for the market faster.
Due to high costs, only licensed users that pay the $75 will receive
technical support. A newsgroup is set up for builders that have the free
plans to share experiences though. A 900 number is also being considered if
needed for technical support for the free plans.

For people unaware of the GEET Fuel Processor, it is a simplified "Plasma
Reformer" that takes any hydrocarbon fuel or waste product and transforms it
into Hydrogen rich "Synthetic Natural Gas". The "Small Engine Plans" will
show how parts can be purchased and then built from plumbing parts from any
local hardware store. Benefits include Multi-Fuel availability, and up to
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[CTRL] Shamanism

[earthman]

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Hey guys, remember the fuss I caused re wicca, well try this one on for size
too..

Peter

http://www.newageinfo.com/bus/cymry/shamanism.html

Shamanic ecstasy is the real 'Old Time Religion,' of which modern churches
are but pallid evocations. Shamanic, visionary ecstasy, the mysterium
tremendum, the unio mystica, the eternally delightful experience of the
universe as energy, is a sine qua non of religion, it is what religion is
for! There is no need for faith, it is the ecstatic experience itself that
gives one faith in the intrinsic unity and integrity of the universe, in
ourselves as integral parts of the whole; that reveals to us the sublime
majesty of our universe, and the fluctuant, scintillant, alchemical miracle
that is quotidian consciousness. Any religion that requires faith and gives
none, that defends against religious experiences, that promulgates the
bizarre superstition that humankind is in some way separate, divorced from
the rest of creation, that heals not the gaping wound between Body and Soul,
but would tear them asunder... is no religion at all!"
 Jonathan Ott





Shamanism is one of the oldest spiritual paths on Earth. It offers a way for
people to wake up to their potential, and begin to explore their spiritual
relationship with the universe, with other forms of life, and with each
other. Shamanism is a way in which humanity has sought a connection to the
world of healing, maintaining balance and harmony in society and with the
individual and keeping our connection with Mother Earth and All Creation.
The work of Y Tylwyth Teg is to help people connect their inner and outer
worlds, to heal old wounds within, to become able to bring dreams from the
world of spirit into matter and thus enjoy a creative and fruitful life and
dance the dance of joy and to become a part of the solution instead of part
of the problem of human life on Earth.

A Shaman walks with one foot in this world and one foot in the spirit world.
Our outer world may be different, but our human inner landscape has the same
components as always. Our outer health and wholeness is an expression of our
inner health and holiness. We are here to bring spirit into matter and
matter to spirit.

Many prophecies have been made about this period as a time of great change
when the world as we know it will end and a new world will be born. We can
see the invitability of these changes in the state of things around us - the
pollution of the air, the water, toxic waste buried in the earth and sea,
nucler radition leaks, demolition of the rainforests, reduction of the
protective ozone layer, extreme weather patterns and so on.

At a deep level each one of us knows it cannot go on, yet we do not know how
to turn the tide. Now the teachings of Welsh/Celtic Shamans who for
thousands of years lived successfully in harmony and balance with the earth,
the plant kingdom and the animal kingdom, are available to help.

TRADITIONAL SHAMANISM

While a Shaman may exhibit magickal powers such as control over fire, wind
or magical flight or as a healer, more than anything else, Shamanism is a
technique of ecstasy. The distinguishing feature of Shamanism is its
emphasis on a ecstatic trance state in which the soul of the Shaman leaves
the body and ascends to the heavens or descends into the underworld. The
Shaman makes use of spirit helpers, with whom he or she communicates, while
retaining control over his or her own consciousness. Either women or men may
become Shamans.

 Traditional Shamans have developed techniques for lucid dreaming and what
is today called the out-of-the-body experience. Along with these techniques,
the near-death-experience has played a significant role in Shamanic practice
and initiation for thousands of years.

This ability to consciously move beyond the physical body is the particular
specialty of the traditional Shaman. These journeys of Soul may take the
Shaman into the nether realms, higher levels of existence or to parallel
physical worlds or other regions of this world. Shamanic Flight, is in most
instances, an experience not of an inner imaginary landscape, but is
reported to be the Shamans flight beyond the limitations of the physical
body.

SHAMANIC ECSTASY

>From the Greek 'ekstasis', ecstasy literally means to be placed outside, or
to be placed. This is a state of exaltation in which a person stands outside
of his or herself. Ecstasy may range from the seizure of the body by a
spirit or the seizure of a person by the divine, to the magical
transformation or flight of consciousness.

There are three types of Ecstasy:

Shamanic Ecstasy
Prophetic Ecstasy
Mystical Ecstasy
Shamanic ecstasy is aroused by the rising of the soul of the Shaman into the
heavens or its sinking into the underworld. These states of ecstatic
exaltation usually occur after strenuous training and initiation, and often
under dangerous and distressing

[CTRL] Fw: Call Hatch NOW to Move Forfeiture Reform!

[lloyd]

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Subject: Fw: Call Hatch NOW to Move Forfeiture Reform!
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:29 PM


-Original Message-
From: Dr. Ken Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 4:44 PM
Subject: Fwd: Call Hatch NOW to Move Forfeiture Reform!


Someone please send Hatch a copy of the Constitution.  Underline the
following from the 5th Amendment:  "Nor be deprived of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken
for public use without just compensation."  Sheesh!!!

Ken

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:55:04 -0600
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Subject: Call Hatch NOW to Move Forfeiture Reform!

Dear forfeiture reformers,

Please contact Senator Hatch's office without delay to urge
that this year he bring forward and support HR 1658, much
needed federal forfeiture reform legislation.  For an
analysis of this legislation, please use the following link
to read Brenda Grantland's description of its provisions.

http://www.fear.org/hr1658features.html

Senator Hatch may be contacted at 202-224-5251.  Ask for a
staff person that specializes in forfeiture legislation (I
don't know who this is).  Remind the staffer that the
Republican Party in Utah has taken strong positions by
resolution and platform opposing forfeiture from innocent
>>owners, and that Orrin's action or inaction will be a
>>deciding factor in how you and others will vote in
>>Convention, Primary, and General Elections next year.
>>
Also request that HR 1658 be amended to prohibit the use of
federal forfeiture law where so doing would circumvent the
protections of state law where the property seizure
occurred.  This restraint used to exist in federal law, but
was removed a few years ago.

 Arnold

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[CTRL] (Fwd)End of free Speech on Chemical Site Data

[K]

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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
From:   "D. Scott Secor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Reposted in part from c.s.y2k.

Internet speech on the details of chemical sites and Y2K is now a Federal Crime.
The law is called: The Chemical Safety Information, Site Security and
Fuels Regulatory Relief Act (PL 106-40). An FAQ for laymen is located here:
http://www.epa.gov/swercepp/pubs/newlawqa.html

Are you a duly recognized "covered person" or "covered researcher"?
Whether you are or not, you better keep your mouth shut about chemical
plants. You can be fined $5000 per facility per mouth off, up to a total
of $1 million/year.

Speech restrictions will be in effect until Aug. 5, 2000, at which time
a decision will be made on the restoration of democracy.

Legislative data on the Act:
>Approved Aug. 5, 1999.
>
>LEGISLATIVE HISTORY--S. 880:
>---
>
>SENATE REPORTS: No. 106-70 (Comm. on Environment and Public Works).
>CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 145 (1999):
>June 23, considered and passed Senate.
>July 21, considered and passed House, amended.
>Aug. 2, Senate concurred in House amendments.

The Act itself can be found here:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/useftp.cgi?IPaddress=162.140.64.21&f
ilename=publ040.106&directory=/diskb/wais/data/106_cong_public_laws

The EPA "FAQ" is here (please note that the EPA will fill in the blanks as
they always do (oppressive unelected bureaucrats being the budding dictators
that they really are).

http://www.epa.gov/swercepp/pubs/newlawqa.html

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fiehrer (one people, one empire, one master)

Ciao,

D. Scott Secor, Year 2000 Institute & Board of Inquiry, Mpls., MN USA
Only a few weeks before many PCs are converted from "Productivity
Centers" to "Permanently Catatonic".  URL:  http://y2k.board.org/


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the inhuman sceptic, I know no better test than this --
that the unreal reformer sees in front of him one
certain future, the future of his fad; while the real
reformer sees before him ten or twenty futures among
which his country must choose, and may in some dreadful
hour choose the wrong one. The true patriot is always
doubtful of victory; because he knows that he is dealing
with a living thing; a thing with free will. To be
certain of free will is to be uncertain of success.
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[CTRL] Mother of wounded Columbine student commits suicide

[Steve Wingate]

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Mother of wounded Columbine student commits suicide

Copyright © 1999 Nando Media
Copyright © 1999 Associated Press

By COLLEEN SLEVIN

DENVER (October 22, 1999 8:14 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) -
The mother of a student wounded in the Columbine High School massacre
killed herself Friday in a suburban pawn shop, which she had entered on
the pretense of buying a gun.

Carla June Hochhalter's suicide occurred about six months after her 17-
year-old daughter, Anne Marie, was critically wounded in the April 20
tragedy and left partially paralyzed.

It was not immediately known what other factors might have contributed to
Hochhalter's suicide.

Hochhalter, 48, entered the Alpha Pawn Shop in Englewood Friday
morning and asked to see a handgun.

When a clerk turned around to fill out paperwork, Ms. Hochhalter loaded the
weapon with bullets that she brought, then fired one round that hit the wall
and a second round into her head, Englewood police spokeswoman
Leticia Castillo said.

The suicide was the latest shock for students and families in the Columbine
area. Jefferson County School District officials planned to have grief
counselors available this weekend to help deal with any trauma.

A student was arrested this week for allegedly threatening "to finish the job"
begun by two student gunmen at Columbine.

In addition, CBS-TV was criticized by some in the community for
broadcasting a snippet of the security camera videotape that was taken in
the school cafeteria as the massacre unfolded.

Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, scattered gunfire and bombs at the
school near Englewood, killing 12 students and a teacher and wounding
about 26 others. Then they committed suicide.

Anne Marie Hochhalter suffered injuries to her spinal cord, back and chest
when the gunmen fired at her in the parking lot. She moved her legs for the
first time last week.

Now a senior, she is taking a physics class at Columbine while a tutor
teaches the rest of her courses at home.


Steve Wingate

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Re: [CTRL] U.N. Dues Din

[Tenorlove]

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Not only would I not pay UN dues, but if elected President, my first
action would be to send Federal marshalls to padlock the UN building in
NYC and arrest all the employees for sedition against the United
States.

Tenorlove
whose next step would be to pardon "domestic political prisoners,"
those who are in jail because they disagree with the government.
Example: the Branch Davidian survivors.
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[CTRL] test

[Kris Millegan]

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test

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[CTRL] "The Omega Code"

[Kris Millegan]

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from:alt.conspiracy
As, always, Caveat Lector
Om
K
-
Click Here: The Omega Code
-
Subject: The Omega Code
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 October 1999 11:22 AM EDT
Message-id: <7usjrd$pbg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The Omega Code -

What message is ultimately sent by this movie?

Is this movie to be interpreted as fact, fiction or something in-
between by Christians?

I've overheard several conversations from people that have seen the
movie that now appear to be incorporating the theory of the "Bible
Code" as "gospel" into their personal belief systems.

The wholesale marketing by several religious groups, going so far as to
buy tickets for their youth groups, reinforces this.

I suggest that a healthy consideration and explanation by these groups
to their youth is in order.

I also note with dismay, that the star of this film, Casper Van Dien,
also is the star of a movie released a few days ago to video (after the
Omega Code) called Modern Vampires. A movie which I rented based on his
performance in the Omega Code.

This is the ACTOR who says "save me Jesus" in the Omega Code.

Modern Vampires
http://www.starguideweb.com/OCTOBER/modern_vampires.html">http://www.
starguideweb.com/OCTOBER/modern_vampires.html

In Modern Vampires (R-Rated), Casper Van Dien is a vampire that uses
four-letter-words, has intercourse with another vampire on top of a car
and at the closing of the movie strolls into the night with his new
girlfriend and their newly acquired lesbian lover.

There are dangers in "going Hollywood" that should be adequately
considered.

Impressionable children should be counseled on the dangers of confusing
fact with fiction and actors with real-life characters.

Some adults also could use this counseling.


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Before you buy.

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Re: [CTRL] WHALE & DOLPHIN ALERT!

[Thomas Butler]

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Fuck the whales


This is a true saying, and worthy of all men to be received, that Christ
Jesus came into the world to save sinners.  I Timothy 1:15
Thomas A. Butler
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Subject:[CTRL] WHALE & DOLPHIN ALERT!

Cetacean Society International
Action Alerts and Updates on Current Issues




Respond To The Low Frequency Active Sonar Draft Environmental Impact
Statement
Public Comment Period Closing 28 October 1999
Please use your one opportunity to comment on the U.S. Navy's Low Frequency
Active Sonar Draft Environmental Impact Statement before the public comment
period closes 28 October. CSI has participated directly since 1996, tried
to be objective and open minded, and we have given the Navy the benefit of
the doubt again and again. We have spent a great deal of effort trying to
understand and communicate this very confusing and complex issue. Frankly,
it scares us. It should scare you too.

The LFA is a complex system designed to locate the super-quiet submarines
that older sonars can't find. Many military professionals consider the
system to be of little practical use. To start with, it's very vulnerable.
While announcing itself to anything within hundreds of miles it can only
work at 3 knots, and it can't turn easily while transmitting. Below are
several points that we think illustrate the flaws in the LFA DEIS. You
might consider including some of them in your own comment, in you own
words. Below those points is the technical, supporting background. For more
details, and the history of the controversy, please review "Whales Alive!"
newsletters archived on this website starting in October, 1996.

Please send your comments to:

Mr. J. S. Johnson
Attn: SURTASS LFA Sonar OEIS/EIS Program Manager
901 North Stuart Street, Suite 708
Arlington, VA 22203
Fax: 703-465-8420. (Emails are not acceptable)

  a.. Because the LFA has the potential to do harm to the marine
environment, because it is so loud that it can kill, all operations should
be based on conservative levels of sound. Instead, but with considerable
lip service to being conservative, the DEIS downplays the risks and asserts
that the LFA is safe to operate. This DEIS assertion rests on insufficient
evidence and supports itself with self-generated figures and graphs. Demand
that scientists not associated with the LFA review the assertions before
they are considered valid.
  b.. A received level of 180 dB is far too loud to be considered the
beginning of a precautionary zone around the LFA. Most experts consider
that level damaging, and urge caution with sounds far quieter. Demand to
know the facts and experts' opinions the Navy implies support a level of
180 dB as the start of mitigations.
  c.. There is no "ramping up" of the LFA sounds to allow close animals to
move away. This procedure is demanded for many other loud sources to
operate.
  d.. Cumulative noises multiply the negative impacts of single sounds. The
Navy asserts that they need not extend the mitigation zone to account for
the cumulative effect. By their own figures, 100 LFA transmissions shift
the mitigation point from 180 dB to 170 dB, which could be several miles
from the source depending on conditions.
  e.. For their mitigations of the LFA's dangers the Navy relies on
detecting vulnerable marine life within 1 kilometer. They assert that they
can detect sea turtles and dolphins 1 kilometer away from the LFA even at
night and in any weather. They rely largely on a fish-finding sonar that
has not been tested, and assert that it won't affect bow riding dolphins.
  f.. All deep-diving toothed whales are ignored. There was no directed
research, but there is considerable scientific evidence that toothed whales
may be very vulnerable to LFA sounds. The sperm whale is ignored because
there are enough of them that harming some won't affect the population.
  g.. All effects of the LFA on the behavior of marine animals are ignored.
Communication, reproduction, and feeding and avoiding predators are not
"biologically significant" unless whole populations are at risk.
  h.. The Precautionary Principle is a basic scientific rule that, in the
face of ignorance about our effects, we must move carefully and cautiously.
The DEIS ignores this Principle, in spite of warnings by most scientists
that human don't know enough about the effects of our noises in the oceans.
The LFA DEIS discusses the need to be cautious and conservative but all
actions are based on unrealistic and aggressive assumptions about the LFA's
effects below 180 dB. In practice everything outside of 1 kilometer is
simply ignored.
  i.. The Scientific Research Program (SRP) assumed to support the LFA DEIS
is inadequate and asserts unsubstantiated conclusions.

[CTRL] FREE MARKETS MY ASS. (Hidden Hand of American Hegemony.)

[Nurev Ind Research]

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Subject:
  Hidden Hand of American Hegemony
 Date:
  Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:54:08 -0400
From:
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[Rakesh writes...]

Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rakesh Bhandari ([EMAIL PROTECTED]))
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Reading note:

David E Spiro, The Hidden Hand of American Hegemony:Petrodollar Recycling
and International Markets. Cornell University Press, 1999. [the same series
in which Gregory Nowell's book appears]

 From the inside jacket: "Between 73 and 80, the cost of crude oil rose
suddently and dramatically, precipating convulsions in international
politics. Conventional wisdom holds that international cpaial markets
adjusted automatically and ramarkably well: Enormous amounts of money
flowed into oil rich states, and efficient markets then placed tha tnew
money in cash third wolrd eocnomies. THis massive rellocation of wealth is
labeled 'petrodollar recycling.'

"Spiro has floolwed the money trail, and the story he tells, based on
interviews and a painstaking accumulation of fragmentary evidence,
contradicts the accepted beliefs both in the particulars and in broad
outline. MOst of the sudden flush of new oil wealth did not go to poor oil
importing countries around the globe. Instead, the United States made a
deal with Saudi Arabia to sell it US securities in secret, a deal resulting
in a substanial portion of Saudi assets being held by the US govt. With
this arrangement, the US govt violated agreements with its allies in the
developed world. Spiro argues that American policy makers took this action
to prop up otherwise intolerable levels of US public debt. In effect,
recycled OPEC wealth subsidized the debt happy policies of the US govt as
well as the debt happy consumerism of its citzenry.

"Petrodollars were recycled not by the hidden hand of market forces but by
the hidden hand of American hegemony..."
_
>From this remarkable book:

"So long as OPEC oil was priced in US dollars, and so long as OPEC invested
the dollars in US govt instruments, the US govt enjoyed a double loan. THe
first part of the loan was for oil.The govt could print dollars to pay for
oil, and the American economy did not have to produce goods and services in
exchange for the oil until OPEC used the dollars for goods and services.
Obviously, the strategy could not work if dollars were not not a means of
exchange for oil.

"The second part of the loan was from all other economies that had to pay
dollars for oil but could not print currency. Those economies had to trade
their goods and services for dollars in order to pay OPEC. Again, so long
as OPEC held the dollars rather than spending them, the US received a loan.
It was therefore important to keep OPEC oil priced in dollars at the same
time that the govt officials continued to recruit Arab funds...

"The Saudis...had the greatest proportion of dollar denominated reserves in
OPEC. This meant that their reserves were diminished by the [post
12/77-rb]depreciation of the dollar (compared to the basket of their
imports)> But it also meant that they had the most to lose if a shift by
OPEC to a basket of currencies [note: urged by Kuwait!!!--rb] threatened
intl confidence in the dollar. Having agreed to invest so much in dollars,
the Saudis now shared a stake in maintaining the dollar as an intl reserve
currency...

Oil is still priced in dollars."  pp. 121-4
___
Just to take another remarkable passage:

"In an attempt to continue the recruitment of Saudi funds, and in
competition with other industrial powers, the State and Treasury Depts went
to extraordinary lengths to prevent the Congress from gathering infomration
[on the Saudi purchase of T-bills and various other instruments--rb]. The
secretary of the treasury even went to the trouble
of making sure the CIA remained secretive [!]. It was this secrecy not
accorded the investments of any other nation, tha tled the Commerce Dept to
complain that it was unable to compile accurate data on either foreign
investment in the US or its balance of payments." p. 126.
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And a good question: "We do not know for instance whether the investment of
billions of dollars by one govt (Saudi Arabia) in the treasury obligations
of another govt (the US) was economically rational or motivated by non
monetary considerations [provision of security umbrella?rb]. Should this
exchange of value be called a market or political deal." p. 76
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Spiro includes a statistically rigorous analysis of how the adjustments
from the oil price hikes were imposed on the LDCs (except for a few newly
industrializing ones).

I could not recommend this book more highly. I had been hoping that a
Marxist would have written such 

[CTRL] Jeff Rense E- News - Sightings

[Steve Wingate]

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Jeff Rense Weekly E-News


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10-24-99 thru 10-30-99

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Here are a couple of interesting tidbits...one humorous, one
historically portentious..

Note: This is an exact replication of National Public Radio (NPR)
interview between a female broadcaster, and US Army General Reinwald
who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military
installation.

   INTERVIEWER: "So, General Reinwald, what things are you
   going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?"

   GENERAL REINWALD: 'We're going to teach them climbing,
   canoeing, archery, and shooting."

   INTERVIEWER: "Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't
   it?"

   GENERAL REINWALD: "I don't see why, they'll be properly
   supervised on the rifle range."

   INTERVIEWER: "Don't you admit that this is a terribly
   dangerous activity to be teaching children?"

   GENERAL REINWALD: "I don't see how, we will be teaching
   them proper rifle range discipline before they even touch a
   firearm."

   INTERVIEWER: " But you're equipping them to become violent
   killers."

   GENERAL REINWALD: "Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute,
   but you're not one, are you?"

   The radio went silent and the interview ended.
___

Excerpts From Senator Jesse Helms' Speech Before the Senate,
12-15-87, Warning Against The New World Order:

   "This campaign against the American people -against traditional
   American culture and values - is systematic psychological warfare.
   It is orchestrated by a vast array of interests comprising not
   only the Eastern establishment but also the radical left. Among
   this group we find the Department of State, the Department of
   Commerce, the money center banks and multinational corporations,
   the media, the educational establishment, the entertainment
   industry, and the large tax-exempt foundations. Mr. President, a
   careful examination of what is happening behind the scenes reveals
   that all of these interests are working in concert with the masters
   of the Kremlin in order to create what some refer to as a New World
   Order. Private organizations such as the Council on Foreign
   Relations, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the
   Trilateral Commission, the Dartmouth Conference, the Aspen
   Institute for Humanistic Studies, the Atlantic Institute, and the
   Bilderberger Group serve to disseminate and to coordinate the plans
   for this so-called New World Order in powerful business, financial,
   academic, and official circles. . . .

   The psychological campaign that I am describing, as I have said, is
   the work of groups within the Eastern establishment, that amorphous
   amalgam of wealth and social connections whose power resides in its
   control over our financial system and over a large portion of our
   industrial sector. The principal instrument of this control over
   the American economy and money is the Federal Reserve System. The
   policies of the Industrial sectors, primarily the multinational
   corporations, are influenced by the money center banks through debt
   financing and through the large blocks of stock controlled by the
   trust departments of the money center banks.

   Anyone familiar with American history, and particularly American
   economic history, cannot fail to notice the control over the
   Department of State and the Central Intelligence Agency which Wall
   Street seems to exercise

   The influence of establishment insiders over our foreign policy has
   become a fact of life in our time. This pervasive influence runs
   contrary to the real long-term national security of our Nation. It
   is an influence which, if unchecked, could ultimately subvert our
   constitutional order.

   The viewpoint of the establishment today is called globalism. Not
   so long ago, this viewpoint was called the "one-world" view by its
   critics. The phrase is no longer fashionable among sophisticates;
   yet, the phrase "one-world" is still apt because nothing has
   changed in the minds and actions of those promoting policies
   consistent with its fundamental tenets.

   Mr. President, in the globalist point of view, nation-states and
   national boundaries do not count for anything. Political
   philosophies and political principles seem to become simply
   relative. Indeed, even constitutions are irrelevant to the
   exercise of power. Liberty and tyranny are viewed as neither
   necessarily good nor evil, and certainly not a compo

[CTRL] [Fwd: ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY ACCUSED OF COMPLICITY IN NATO AGGRESSION]

[Nurev Ind Research]

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 Original Message 
Subject: ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY ACCUSED OF COMPLICITY IN NATO AGGRESSION
Date: 23 Oct 1999 15:00:03 -
From: Eternera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Eternera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Eternera - http://get.to/eternera

ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY ACCUSED OF COMPLICITY IN NATO AGGRESSION

The British humanitarian organisation Christians against NATO Aggression
(CANA) accused Tuesday Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey of
complicity in NATO's March 24-June 10 aggression on Yugoslavia.

In a statement distributed among reporters, CANA said that, by backing
the NATO aggression and the British government's policy, the archbishop
had violated Christian norms and basic humanness and had become an
accomplice to this madness.

CANA said that the archbishop kept quiet about casualties and the
destruction of Christian culture and Serbian Orthodox churches in the
Yugoslav republic of Serbia's Kosovo and Metohija province.

It also accused him of hypocrisy because, despite his support for the
NATO aggression, he had stated in a recent newspaper interview that he
opposed wars in general.

CANA lashed out also against British Prime Minister Tony Blair for
pursuing an aggressive policy.

The statement was signed by CANA's Director William Spring, who after
working for years as a journalist and being active in humanitarian work,
became a Protestant priest in northern London.

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[CTRL] "INTelligence #105 - Summary" & Agenda

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  SUMMARY VERSION

INTELLIGENCEISSN 1245-2122
N. 105, New Series, 18 October 1999
Every Two to Three Weeks
Next Issue on 8 November 1999
Publishing since 1980

Editor
Olivier Schmidt

TABLE OF CONTENTS, N. 105, 18 October 1999

FRONT PAGE

USA - CYBER SCARE GETS A PENTAGON BUDGET p.1

TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNIQUES

"INTELLIGENCE" OVERVIEW OF MEDIA COVERAGE p.2
EUROPEAN EXPERTISE TO GUARD THE PENTAGON p.3
PRACTICAL SOLUTION FOR NETWORK SECURITY FROM ISRAEL p.4
SINGAPORE - Chosing Israeli Anti-Tank Tech. p.5

PEOPLE

SWITZERLAND-ISRAEL-USA - BRUCE RAPPAPORT p.6
NORTHERN IRELAND - JOHN ADAIR p.7

AGENDA

COMING EVENTS THROUGH 1 DECEMBER 1999 p.8

INTELLIGENCE AROUND THE WORLD

USA - NEW TERRORISM LIST & NEW YORK CITY PROBLEMS p.9
 - Open Source Intelligence on the CIA. p.10
NORTH AMERICA - Open Source Intelligence. p.11
 FBI, WACO, DOD, BOOK, CANADA.
GREAT BRITAIN - SHAYLER, OFFICIAL SECRETS & MI5 p.12
 - PHILBY, THE HIDDEN YEARS p.13
 - PINOCHET CLEARED FOR EXTRADITION p.14
NORTHERN IRELAND - NEW ORGANIZATION PREPARES FOR WAR p.15
IRELAND - CORRUPTION AT THE TOP p.16
FRANCE - "CYBER COOPERATION" MAKES A START p.17
 - Apple Bites the Military's Band Width. p.18
 - SCIP France Makes Another Start. p.19
BELGIUM - CORRUPTION WATCH p.20
NETHERLANDS - A BUSY FORTNIGHT FOR "CRIME BUSTERS" p.21
GERMANY - REAL & IMAGINARY PROBLEMS FOR THE BND p.22
ITALY - The Mitrokhin Archives Make a Splash. p.23
EASTERN EUROPE - Open Source Intelligence. p.24
 ROMANIA, RUSSIA.
GUYANA - SECRET SATELLITE LAUNCH SITE TALKS p.25
LATIN AMERICA - Open Source Intelligence. p.26
 ANTIGUA, PANAMA.
SOUTH AFRICA - Open Source Intelligence. p.27
ISRAEL - Open Source Intelligence. p.28
NEW ZEALAND - DEFENSE WILL BE MAJOR ELECTION ISSUE p.29
ASIA - Open Source Intelligence. p.30
 INDIA, JAPAN.

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Intelligence, N. 105, 18 October 1999, p. 1


USA

CYBER SCARE GETS A PENTAGON BUDGET


Although threats to computer security from somewhere on the
Internet capture more headlines (29 articles in our last three-
week media coverage), the most successful government break-ins
are from within, according to Keith Rhodes, director of the
General Accounting Office (GAO) computer and information-
technology assessment unit, speaking at a conference entitled,
"Defending Cyberspace - Enabling Electronic Government", in
Arlington, Virginia, last month. Rhodes should know. He tests
the security of federal systems by breaking in from within the
government and from the Internet. About the same time, just to
prove that government hackers know best, the FBI offered Russia
to help attack web sites posted by Islamic militants fighting
in Dagestan, according to a BBC report. The FBI would probably
use existing computer programs for completely erasing a web
site at a distance, but a former US Navy engineer has also
built a HERF (High-Energy Radio Frequency) "gun" that can
disable almost any piece of computer equipment ... from a
distance of seven meters.
  ...(cut)...
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Intelligence, N. 105, 18 October 1999, p. 6


SWITZERLAND-ISRAEL-USA - BRUCE RAPPAPORT


Someone who keeps popping up in "Intelligence" columns is 76-
year-old Swiss-Israeli banker and oil man, Bruce Rappaport, who
recently resurfaced in the Bank of New York-Russian money
laundering scandal. Major press coverage of the scandal has
largely ignored well-documented connections between Rappaport,
the CIA, the Israeli Labor Party and several major
international scandals. Rappaport is one of the Bank of New
York's major shareholders and was linked to a variety of secret
operations during the Reagan-Bush era. "Those operations
included a strange Iraqi pipeline deal, the Iran-Contra affair,
sensitive US Customs stings, the BCCI scandal, the October
Surprise case and a mysterious shipment of Israeli weapons to
Colombian drug kingpins. Rappaport was known as one of CIA
director William Casey's favorite golf partners. Yet, when the
'New York Times' profiled Rappaport and his hand in the Bank of
New York's Russian financial deals, the US intelligence
connections were left out", according to Consortiumnews.com.
The "New York Times" is not the only major newspaper at fault.
All "The Guardian" in Britain had to say about Rappaport and
the 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: [TheEagle-L] The taste of Grey?

[Das GOAT]

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In a message dated 99-10-22 17:12:54 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Greys taste like copper, according to the Zulu Elder Shaman Credo Mutwa.

Maybe because invertebrate and INSECT blood is based on copper rather than
iron (hemoglobin)?  No telling HOW "hivelike" those non-mammalian critters
really are ...

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[CTRL] People Who Have Died After Being on the Art Bell Show

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People who have died after being on Art Bell Radio Show
by Jon Locke
When I was in Arizona a Paranoid Woman told me, "A lot of people who have
been on Art Bell are dead now." IT made me stop and think. After coming
back home I decided to make a list of those I know of who are dead or sick
after being interviewed on the Art Bell show. Usually for talking too much
about UFOS.

Jim Keith, author of "BLACK HELICOPTERS - STRIKE FORCE OF THE NEW WORLD
ORDER." He died recently while working on a book about the death of
Princess Diana. He was going to mention her three month pregnancy.

Col. Corso. HE wrote the book, "After Roswell." It is about alien UFO
crashes and what we have learned from them. Reversed technology gotten off
crashed discs. Some of the alien technology is computer chips, velcro,
bullet proof vests, and night vision goggles. Though an old man he died
quickly right after a physical exam which said he was in good health for a
man his age.
[The C.I.A. has a weapon which can be pointed at a person and fired. IT is
electronic and therefore silent. IT sends about a ray, a beam, which when
it hits the heart causes it to fibulate and quit, giving the impression of
a heart attack. This is what they did to Richard C. (For Conspiracy)
Hoagland in Miami. I had a strong premonition he would not leave Miami. He
went there to help with the Miami Stonehenge Circle. Before it was over he
was taken into a local hospital with a heart attack. Thank God  he is
strong enough to survive. Usually if you withstand an attack by the
NWO/Illuminati/ secret government they will leave you alone. Robert Morning
Sky was run off the road after being on art bell. HE spoke of the world
being under the control of a few. But he quit speaking and is alive today.
Speaking Wind was not so lucky. He spoke on Dec 9, 1998.  He mentioned the
secret book he found in a monastery in New Mexico five years ago. He said
anyone caught talking about it is harassed or killed. He died of a "heart
attack" three days later, Dec 12, 1998. He still has a web site where  you
an read his interpretations of this book. To hear his reply go to
artbell.com.

Col. STEVE Wilson was on Operation Pounce. HE retired and started talking
about it. Whoever a UFO was shot down, Operation Pounce was called upon to
retrieve the craft and bodies. He said on radio he saw alien bodies. He is
survived by his wife.

Dannion Brinkley has had three Near Death Experiences. Two before going on
Art Bell. HE talked about  his service in the paramilitary. HE was flown
into a south American country. HE was driven to a location. He want inside
and set booby traps. Then escaped. He said, "I never met an enemy."
Lighting struck him one day and he changed over night. His story is  a
fasinating one. HE predicted ETS would be working alongside humans by the
year 2001.

And of course the beloved Father Malichi, a real Catholic exorcist. He
predicted a meteor would hit the earth.

Dr. Greer is a regular M.D. he and Shari Adamski, daughter of famous UFO
contactee of the 50s, George Adamski, went to Washing, D.C. to tell
Congress about UFOS. They and 200 witnesses lined up. Not kooks either. But
retired Military men willing to testify and tell their fellow countrymen
the truth. A month after returning, Shari came down with cancer. A few
months later she died. Dr. Greer is struggling but still alive. I think he
took an alternative remedy and stayed alive.

Terrace McKenna went on Art Bell and recommended everybody get stoned in
order to break thru to the other side. He is sick in bed in a Hospital in
Hawaii.

How much longer must we be deprived of our right to free speech? Let us all
pray that this suppression of our rights will soon be lifted.
Pray to God.

This is a short list. I do not listen to Art Bell every night. IF you can
think of any others, please let me know.

Ask Me About IntraSound
The Wave of the 21st Century
http://earth.vol.com/~voltron//


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

Anomalous Images and UFO Files
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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[Dave]

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Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

 http://www.thuntek.net/sumeria/politics/grounds.html
Tue Jan 13 17:00:34 1998
A Press Release from the Law Offices of Michael Kennedy
For Immediate Release

DEA FINALLY CONFIRMS THE EXISTENCE OF SUFFICIENT GROUNDS TO REMOVE MARIJUANA
FROM HARD DRUGS SCHEDULE OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES



DEA Refers Marijuana Rescheduling Petition to HHS



Introduction

Recent scientific evidence has forced the US Government through its Justice
Department agency, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), to commence
legally binding procedures that will likely result in the end of marijuana
prohibition.

On December 19th, DEA formally asked the Department of Health and Human
Services to conduct "a scientific and medical evaluation of the available
data and provide a scheduling recommendation" for marijuana and other
cannabinoid drugs. This DEA request of HHS means that the DEA has for the
first time made its own determination that sufficient grounds exist to
remove marijuana from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA).
Schedule I is supposed to be limited to hard drugs with addictive
propensities and with no legitimate medical usage.

The DEA request was made in response to an administrative petition filed
July 10, 1995 by Petitioners Jon Gettman and Trans High Corporation,
publisher of High Times Magazine.

The Petition presents evidence and argument that marijuana and cannabinoids
lack the "high potential for abuse" required for Schedule I and Schedule II
drugs under the (CSA).

Trans-High Corporation, the publishers of High Times, joined with Mr.
Gettman in mid-1995 to provide support for the petition during the
administrative rule-making process. Petitioners are represented by the Law
Offices of Michael Kennedy, which today released a copy of a letter >from
DEA notifying petitioners of the HHS referral.

Petitioners are represented by the Law Offices of Michael Kennedy in New
York City, which today released a copy of the letter from DEA notifying
Petitioners of the HHS referral.

Background.

According to a July 27, 1995, letter from DEA Deputy Administrator Stephen
Greene, accepting the Petition for filing:

"The DEA shall determine within a reasonable period of time whether there
are sufficient grounds to justify removing marijuana . . . from Schedule I .
. .(S)hould DEA determine that there are sufficient grounds, then it must
request a medical and scientific recommendation >from the Secretary of the
Department of Health and Human Services."

Thus DEA can request the advice of HHS only after DEA's investigation
confirms that sufficient grounds exist to remove marijuana from Schedule I.
According to the CSA the findings and recommendations of HHS with regard to
scientific and medical matters are binding on DEA. DEA has never before
voluntarily referred a marijuana rescheduling petition to HHS for binding
review.

The Gettman/High times Petition demonstrates that HHS has never produced a
finding that marijuana actually has the high potential for abuse similar to
heroin or cocaine. A high potential for abuse is required for Schedule I
treatment. Further, the legislative history of the CSA indicates that
Congress only intended for marijuana to remain in Schedule I or II if such a
finding could be produced. This Petition challenges the government to
produce such a finding (where none exists) or be legally required to end
marijuana prohibition by removing marijuana from Schedule I.

Removal of marijuana from Schedule I will require the federal government to
sanction legal distribution of marijuana for medical uses, research and
prescriptions and adopt a regulatory rather than a prohibitory model for
marijuana. The end of prohibition and the advent of regulation will
represent a radical change in the legal status of marijuana in the United
States.

The Petition argues that the discovery of the Cannabinoid Receptor System,
which has enabled scientists to explain the cause of marijuana's
characteristic effects, and provides a basis for making detailed
distinctions among the biological effects of marijuana and other drugs.
These distinctions provide the scientific basis for demonstrating that
marijuana does not have the same high potential for abuse as other Schedule
I or II drugs.

DEA reversal of position.

The DEA to HHS referral represents a historic turn-around for DEA..

Gettman first asked DEA to refer marijuana to HHS for the appropriate
scientific and medical evaluation back in October of 1994. In March 1995, in
a letter to Gettman's congressman, DEA claimed that "unless a substance has
an accepted medical use in the United States, in can only be placed in
Schedule I." By letter dated April 21, 1995, DEA Administrator Thomas
Constantine stated that DEA was:

"unaware of any new scientific studies of marijuana that would lead us to
re-evaluate its classification at this time . . . If Mr. Gettman has access
to scie

Re: [CTRL] what do we think?

[Dave]

 -Caveat Lector-

Tesla-tech. Some combination of local generation & HAARP
DoD "black ops."
China Lake Naval Weapons Research Facility, and some Air Force Bases in the
Ca., Nv., & Az. desert.
Technology first explored around 90 years ago.. long "official silence"
...

Tesla performed his first experiments with resonance technology at his New
York laboratory by firing up a small oscillator, which caused a minor amount
of vibration. Suddenly, an alarmed squad of police officers stormed into the
lab, demanding that Tesla stop at once. Manhattan was shaking for miles
around. Tesla had not taken into account how resonance waves grow stronger
the further they travel from their source. He had unintentionally created
what became known as Tesla's earthquake machine.
http://www.parascope.com/en/0996/tesla5.htm

http://www.parascope.com/en/0996/tesla4.htm

http://www.morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/haarp.htm

http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback31.html

http://www.pkd.com/scientif.htm

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tele.htm#345-NTEM

http://pages.prodigy.net/onichelson/

http://www.altnews.com.au/nexus/bskies2.html

http://www.millenngroup.com/repository/secret/brightskies.html

http://www.pufori.org/news/nws03179812.htm

http://persweb.direct.ca/psa/radar.html

http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback13.html

http://www.efc-inc.com/earthquakes/Syzygy/Archives/t13-0802.shtml

http://www.leidenuniv.nl/~kosters/tentoon/cdrom/TESLA.HTM

http://www.tje.net/para/newsletters/wots/9802/98_02_23_1f.htm

http://pages.prodigy.net/onichelson/tunguska.htm

http://www.frank.germano.com/nikolatesla.htm

http://pages.nyu.edu/~jas4/questions.htm
Question - I read that Tesla could have had something to do with the
explosion in Tunguska area in Russia -- that he was supposedly trying to get
the attention of a explorer that was near the region at the time. Something
about a tower and sending a ball of current through the air, then it
exploded over tunguska. Could you explain what that might be about?
Recent speculations about Tesla's involvement in the Tunguska event have
been fueled mainly by a few statements made some time ago in the New York
Times. For example, on March 20, 1907 he spoke of "projecting wave-energy"
and again on April 21, 1908 a reference is made to the "direct application
of electrical waves without the use of aerial engines or other implements of
destruction." This topic is expanded upon in the book "Tesla's Fuelless
Generator and Wireless Method."


Question - I had read that upon Tesla's death that the U.S. government
stormed his residence and lab seizing all of his note's and papers. This
being done without a proper warrant. Is this true to your knowledge? and if
so has anything been done to recover the property?
The actions taken following Dr. Tesla's death on January 7, 1943 were
conducted in an orderly and respectful fashion. According to those present
at the time, Tesla's papers and other personal possessions were placed under
the charge of the Office of Alien Property which issued a certificate of
ownership to his nephew Sava Kosanovich. It being wartime and considering
Tesla's involvement in remote detection and advanced weapons development, it
is believed the material was thoroughly inspected for items that might have
been important to national defense. The estate was consolidated at a
Manhattan storage facility and in 1952 it was shipped off to Yugoslavia.


Question - Could you tell me if any of Tesla's work was used in the
"Philadelphia experiment?" Also can you tell me anything about Tesla's
"outer space radio" that wouldn't work inside a 2,000 mile limit of the
transmitter?
Assuming that the Philadelphia experiment actually took place, a possible
connection with Tesla's work could be traced back to his 1883 rotating
magnetic field concept and a later proposal for the electronic detection of
U-boats found in an article entitled "Tesla's Views on Electricity and the
War." It is possible that these concepts could have been incorporated into
experiments designed to investigate the reduction of radar visibility of
navel vessels.
Now, regarding the fabled "set for interplanetary communications," this
gadget is spoken of in an unusual book titled "Return of the Dove," pp. 195,
205-208. It is said to be reproducible using design clues to be "found in
the lectures which Tesla gave between the years of 1890 to 1896..."


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From: Trudy & Paul Schuett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 7:41 AM
To: Dave
Cc: NCF list
Subject: Re: what do we think?




Dave wrote:
>
> man made.
Trudy asks:

How?

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[CTRL] Classic Financial Scandals; BCCI, Barings, Daiwa, Sumitomo, Credit Lyonnais, Bre-X, etc.

[Dave]

Title: 



Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart
Classic Financial Scandals
BCCI, Barings, Daiwa, Sumitomo, Credit Lyonnais, Bre-X etc.


 

Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI)


  
  The Sandstorm 
  Report This is the report of an official investigation into the BCCI 
  affair that the British government refused to publish. Along with other 
  material on BCCI, the Sandstone Report is made available on the web site of 
  AABA, the Association for 
  Accountancy & Business Affairs. 
  
  BCCI, Bank of 
  Crooks and Criminals a chapter from Defrauding America 
  by Rodney Stich which also has information on other bank scandals. 
  
  The Media and the 
  Savings and Loan and BCCI Crises Why the news media took so long to focus 
  on the Savings and Loan and BCCI crises by David McKean. 
  
  Congressional 
  Report on the BCCI Affair A Report to the Committee on Foreign Relations, 
  United States Senate by Senator John Kerry and Senator Hank Brown, December 
  1992. The report is also 
  available on Orlin Grabbe's web site. 
  
  BCCI, the Intelligence 
  Services and Money Laundering An article by J. Orlin Grabbe. 
Go to the top of 
the page 


 

Banco Ambrosiano
Although this series of scandals first came to light in the early 1980s the 
controversy is not over yet. 

  
  Through the 
  Looking Glass : Vatican Politics, the Calvi Murder and Beyond... A long 
  article by Conrad Goeringer on Roberto Calvi and the Banco Ambrosiano scandal. 

  
  Three 
  bankers brought scandal to the Vatican An article, from the Irish Times 
  Saturday, August 29, 1998, about how the Vatican Bank was affected by various 
  scandals in the early 1980s, including the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano. 
  
  Italian 
  judge orders exhumation of banker who died under bridge In June 1998 an 
  Italian judge ordered exhumation of the body of Roberto Calvi, known as "God's 
  Banker" because of his connections with the Vatican, to determine whether his 
  1982 death was murder or suicide. 
  
  Fugitive 
  financier Gelli extradited to Italy from France Licio Gelli, the fugitive 
  financier who played a key role in one of Italy's biggest postwar scandals was 
  extradited to Italy in October 1998 to begin a 12 year prison sentence. 

Go to the top of 
the page 


 

Barings Bank
The collapse of Barings Bank was probably the most discussed financial 
scandal of recent years. The bank was subsequently taken over by the Dutch-based 
ING Bank and is now as ING Barings. 
British Government 

  Statement 
  by the Chancellor of The Exchequer on the Insolvency of Barings 
Bank of England 

  Conclusion of 
  the Bank of England Report on the Collapse of Barings 
  
Singaporean Authorities 

The Executive Summary of the Report of the Inspectors of Barings 
  Futures and a press statement on Barings Bank by the Singapore Ministry of 
  Finance used to be on the Web but seem to be no longer available. However, if 
  anyone wants to obtain the official report in print the reference is - 
  Lim, Michael Choo San Barings Futures (Singapore) Pte Ltd : 
  investigation pursuant to section 231 of the Companies Act (Chapter 50) : the 
  report of the Inspectors appointed by the Minister for Finance / Michael Lim 
  Choo San, Nicky Tan Ng Kuang. Singapore : Singapore Ministry of Finance, 1995. 
  - xi, 183p. - 
  The review by Maxmilian Hall may also be of interest. 
  Hall, Maxmilian Review of the Singapore Inspectors' Report on Baring 
  Futures (Singapore) Pte Ltd. Loughborough University Banking Centre, Jan 96. - 
  30cm.i,17... - (Loughborough University Banking Centre Research Paper 
  S.,No.92/96). ISBN - 1-899275-15-0 
  
Numa Financial Systems 

  The Collapse of 
  Barings Bank a collection of links to articles on the scandal maintained 
  by Numa Financial Systems. 

Scandals in Justice 
Scandals in Justice which regularly 
publishes online articles attacking the British legal system has also published 
one on the Barings affair. 

  Barings: A Random 
  Walk to Self-Destruction This article argues that regulators and human 
  nature do not always coincide in their objectives. In the old days, 
  speculators were protected by the twin devils of fear and greed - the 
  gambler's emotions. Computers do not know fear or greed, they do not have any 
  common sense, either. Anyone trading off a screen soon loses touch with 
  reality and common sense. 
Media Central 

  The 
  Other Trial of the Century Media Central's Foreign Agent column discusses 
  the coverage of the Leeson case on the Web. 
US Commodity Futures Trading Commission Response 

  Status Report on 
  Regulatory and Self-Regulatory Responses to the Barings Bankruptcy Article 
  by Joseph B. Dial, Commissioner, Commodity Futures Trading Commission. 

Other Articles on Barings 

  
  Billion-Dollar 
  Man Rogue trader Nick Leeson astonished the world when his derivatives 
  deals brought down Barings - and forced reforms 

[CTRL] Vaccine links

[Dave]

 -Caveat Lector-

Plenty of evidence is readily available showing that vaccinations of infants
(under 2 years more or less, the younger- the worst-case) is a cause of
delayed & or improper myelinization (protective tissue which is supposed to
grow over nerves).

Persons who fawn over authority figures will tend to believe placatory
prounouncements.

Persons who think for themselves and question authority will readily
discover that vaccination is an extremely PROFITABLE industry, and that the
practice of vaccination is EXTREMELY QUESTIONABLE in terms of RISKS vs
unproveable supposed benefits.

http://www.ioa.com/~davehart/medicalmafia.htm

"Unfortunately, we have all been lied to, and once again, me and all of you
are responsible because we would rather put the responsibility of our health
into someone else's hands, instead of taking charge of our own lives and our
own well-being.
I'm going to say this bluntly, so that it will make an impact on you and so
that you will hear me. You and your children are being poisoned, folks, and
you are making pharmaceutical companies incredibly rich, and you are also
unknowingly helping along the progress of what is going to become the
greatest epidemic that the human race has ever seen, namely AIDS. With
ignorance and foolish trust in the experts, you have been had."
http://www.thuntek.net/sumeria/health/vacc.html

The National Vaccine Information Center
http://www.909shot.com/

Informed Parents’ Vaccination Home Page:
http://www.unc.edu/~aphillip/www/vaccine/informed.htm
Vaccine Information Resource Center:
http://www.unc.edu/~aphillip/www/vaccine/resrcntr.htm

"We offer the world's largest selection of uncensored information on
childhood shots and other immunizations."
http://thinktwice.com/global.htm

Vaccination: 50 Things Doctor Forgot To Tell You
http://www.eurosolve.com/charity/bava/vaccination.html

A parent's right to choose what's best for their child
http://www.avn.org.au/

Dispelling vaccination myths
http://chetday.com/dvm1.htm

http://www.ioa.com/~davehart/altmedcon.htm

"Welcome to the room for the vaccine damaged"
http://www.gn.apc.org/inquirer/vaccio.html


http://www.thuntek.net/sumeria/health/vacc.html

http://www.healthy.net/vaccine/

http://www.trufax.org/books/vaccine.html


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

 -Original Message-
From:   Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, June 27, 1998 3:51 AM
To: davehart@POP. NET
Subject:AIDS; vaccination

Vaccination is immune system destructive.
Before vaccines were given routinely to infants.. ADD, ADHD, asthma,
allergies, arthritis in juveniles… all were either completely unknown, or
far less prevalent… and this is only part of the “A” alphabetical listings.
The Washington Post on January 26th, 1988 featured a story which created
some puzzling afterthoughts. It was announced at a national conference held
in Washington that all cases of polio since 1979 had been caused by the
polio vaccine. We quote, "In fact, all the cases in America come from the
vaccine. The naturally occurring (or wild type) polio virus has not been
shown to cause a single case of polio in the United States since 1979."

WHO (world health organization, NWO agency) is publicly committed to
vaccinating every child on the face of the planet.
This would produce a rather large amount of profits for the pharmaceutical
industry, which funds medical schools to be sure of “quality (controlled)
medical education (indoctrination)” Several of the worlds largest
pharmaceutical firms have their roots in Nazi German firms which
manufactured chemical and biological warfare agents and subsequently
transferred assets into other firms.

A vaccination vector is the easiest way imaginable for a “national
 emergency” to sprout up… presidential executive orders would then put FEMA
(Federal Emergency Management Agency) & martial law to the rescue. It may be
interesting to consider that FEMA has working “agreements” with it’s
counterpart in Russia, and likely elsewhere.
I would think that with the implication of vaccination in the creation of
AIDS & GWS people would start getting wise to it…
It’s hard for me to imagine people lining up and paying money for their own
destruction, but it seems altogether possible, even likely…
 “Murder by Injection”:
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart/medicalmafia.htm

http://www.ioa.com/~davehart/altmedcon.htm
Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 4:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (ncn) the latest in shots


On 10/22/99 at 01:56 PM, Trudy & Paul Schuett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:

>-   Experts say the benefits far outweigh the potential
>-   danger. And that's what they want parents to know.

What remains unproven is that any vaccine ever prevented anything.  What
appears to be true is that vaccine manufac

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Classic Financial Scandals; BCCI, Barings, Daiwa, Sumitomo, Credit Lyonnais, Bre-X, etc.

[Kris Millegan]

Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.com" 
target=_blank>http://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart" 
target=_blank>http://www.ioa.com/~davehart
Classic Financial Scandals
BCCI, Barings, Daiwa, Sumitomo, Credit Lyonnais, Bre-X etc.


 

Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI)


  
  http://visar.csustan.edu/aaba/bccipage.html">The Sandstorm 
  Report This is the report of an official investigation into the BCCI 
  affair that the British government refused to publish. Along with other 
  material on BCCI, the Sandstone Report is made available on the web site of 
  AABA, the http://visar.csustan.edu/aaba/aaba.htm">Association for 
  Accountancy & Business Affairs. 
  
  http://www.copi.com/defrauding_america/chp_23.htm">BCCI, Bank of 
  Crooks and Criminals a chapter from http://www.copi.com/defrauding_america/default.htm">Defrauding America 
  by Rodney Stich which also has information on other bank scandals. 
  
  http://www.annenberg.nwu.edu/pubs/news/">The Media and the 
  Savings and Loan and BCCI Crises Why the news media took so long to focus 
  on the Savings and Loan and BCCI crises by David McKean. 
  
  http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/index.html">Congressional 
  Report on the BCCI Affair A Report to the Committee on Foreign Relations, 
  United States Senate by Senator John Kerry and Senator Hank Brown, December 
  1992. The report http://www.aci.net/kalliste/bcciindex.htm">is also 
  available on Orlin Grabbe's web site. 
  
  http://www.aci.net/kalliste/part10.htm">BCCI, the Intelligence 
  Services and Money Laundering An article by J. Orlin Grabbe. 
Go to the http://info.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/scandals/classic.html#top">top of 
the page 


 

Banco Ambrosiano
Although this series of scandals first came to light in the early 1980s the 
controversy is not over yet. 

  
  http://www.americanatheist.org/pope99/calvi.html">Through the 
  Looking Glass : Vatican Politics, the Calvi Murder and Beyond... A long 
  article by Conrad Goeringer on Roberto Calvi and the Banco Ambrosiano scandal. 

  
  http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/1998/0829/wor18.htm">Three 
  bankers brought scandal to the Vatican An article, from the Irish Times 
  Saturday, August 29, 1998, about how the Vatican Bank was affected by various 
  scandals in the early 1980s, including the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano. 
  
  http://www.foxmarketwire.com/wires/0625/f_ap_0625_30.sml">Italian 
  judge orders exhumation of banker who died under bridge In June 1998 an 
  Italian judge ordered exhumation of the body of Roberto Calvi, known as "God's 
  Banker" because of his connections with the Vatican, to determine whether his 
  1982 death was murder or suicide. 
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/wires2/1016/n_ap_1016_174.sml">Fugitive
 
  financier Gelli extradited to Italy from France Licio Gelli, the fugitive 
  financier who played a key role in one of Italy's biggest postwar scandals was 
  extradited to Italy in October 1998 to begin a 12 year prison sentence. 

Go to the http://info.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/scandals/classic.html#top">top of 
the page 


 

Barings Bank
The collapse of Barings Bank was probably the most discussed financial 
scandal of recent years. The bank was subsequently taken over by the Dutch-based 
http://www.ing-barings.com/">ING Bank and is now as http://www.ingbank.com/">ING Barings. 
British Government 

  http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/pub/html/chxstatmt/barings.html">Statement 
  by the Chancellor of The Exchequer on the Insolvency of Barings 
Bank of England 

  http://www.numa.com/derivs/ref/barings/bar00.htm">Conclusion of 
  the Bank of England Report on the Collapse of Barings 
  
Singaporean Authorities 

The Executive Summary of the Report of the Inspectors of Barings 
  Futures and a press statement on Barings Bank by the Singapore Ministry of 
  Finance used to be on the Web but seem to be no longer available. However, if 
  anyone wants to obtain the official report in print the reference is - 
  Lim, Michael Choo San Barings Futures (Singapore) Pte Ltd : 
  investigation pursuant to section 231 of the Companies Act (Chapter 50) : the 
  report of the Inspectors appointed by the Minister for Finance / Michael Lim 
  Choo San, Nicky Tan Ng Kuang. Singapore : Singapore Ministry of Finance, 1995. 
  - xi, 183p. - 
  The review by Maxmilian Hall may also be of interest. 
  Hall, Maxmilian Review of the Singapore Inspectors' Report on Baring 
  Futures (Singapore) Pte Ltd. Loughborough University Banking Centre, Jan 96. - 
  30cm.i,17... - (Loughborough University Banking Centre Research Paper 
  S.,No.92/96). ISBN - 1-899275-15-0 
  
Numa Financial Systems 

  http://www.numa.com/ref/barings/index.htm">The Collapse of 
  Barings Bank a collection of links to articles on the scandal maintained 
  by http://www.numa.com/index.htm">Numa Financial Systems. 

Scandals in Justice 
http://www.scandals.org/">Scandals

[CTRL] Fwd: Mom of Columbine Victim Kills Self

[Kris Millegan]

Mom of Columbine Victim Kills Self

DENVER (AP) -- The mother of a student wounded in the Columbine High School
massacre walked into a suburban pawn shop Friday, asked to see a handgun,
loaded it and killed herself with a shot to the head.

Carla June Hochhalter's suicide occurred about six months after her
17-year-old daughter, Anne Marie, was critically wounded in the April 20
tragedy and left paralyzed from the waist down.

It was not immediately clear if her suicide was connected to the shootings.

Ms. Hochhalter, 48, entered the Alpha Pawn Shop in Englewood Friday morning
and asked to see a handgun.

When a clerk turned around to fill out paperwork, Ms. Hochhalter loaded the
weapon and fired one round that hit the wall and a second round into her
head, Englewood police spokeswoman Leticia Castillo said.



 AP-NY-10-22-99 1929EDT
http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpne15.htm

Bard

We don't need a 3rd Party;  we need a 2nd Party!

[CTRL] A Transparent Ploy To Hide a Liberal Racket Wall Street journal (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

 -Caveat Lector-

October 22, 1999


  A Transparent Ploy
  To Hide a Liberal Racket

  By PAUL A. GIGOT

  Treasury Secretary Larry Summers likes to portray
  himself as a can-do sort who's friendly to business. So
  why on his first major policy call is he deferring to that
  noted financial guru, the Rev. Jesse Jackson?

  That's the real story behind Mr. Summers's decision this
  week to walk away from the best chance in decades to
  reform America's archaic banking laws. A bill to rewrite
  the 1930s-era Glass-Steagall Act is closer than ever to
  passing Congress. But Mr. Summers appears to be
  putting his party's plans to play racial politics in 2000
  above his obligation to the U.S. financial system.

  The main sticking point isn't even about finance. It's
  about Texas Sen. Phil Gramm's attempt to open a
  window on one of America's great political extortion
  rackets, the Community Reinvestment Act.

  The CRA was sold in 1977 as a way
  to induce banks to lend more to inner
  cities. But its political uses weren't
  fully exploited until the Clinton
  presidency coincided with a wave of
  bank mergers in the 1990s. Liberal
  interest groups hit paydirt: They found
  they could use CRA to obstruct bank
  mergers, forcing costly regulatory
  delays.

  Banks concluded that if they wanted their mergers to be
  approved in any financially reasonable period of time,
  they had no choice but to pay up. So they wrote big
  checks to various "citizen action" groups, and in return
  the groups withdrew their objections to the mergers.

  As a wealth redistribution scheme, CRA has proved
  even better than lawsuits. Sen. Gramm says it's
  leveraged some $9.5 billion in current and future cash
  payments, including large chunks to liberal political
  activists. In one 1994 deal uncovered by Congress, Fleet
  Financial Group agreed to pay the Neighborhood
  Assistance Corp. of America 2.75% of $140 million
  worth of loans. The bank also paid $200,000 for
  "start-up" costs--a kind of political finder's fee.

  Mr. Gramm's outrageous reform idea is to expose these
  secret political deals to public and media scrutiny.
  Liberals once prized political openness--Louis
  Brandeis, sunlight as the "best disinfectant" and all
  that.

   But this is the Clinton Age, when
   political advantage always trumps
   accountability. Thus Mr. Summers
   spent much of the seven hours he
   negotiated with Mr. Gramm on
   Wednesday resisting the senator's
   sunlight provision.

   "I bet 90% of it was spent on the
   CRA, and most of that on sunshine,"
   the senator says. "Their strongest
   objections are to reporting what the
   groups do with the money."

  The hypocrisy here is off the charts: Banks must jump
  through hoops to show they're obeying CRA rules, but
  the beneficiaries of those rules needn't report what
  they're doing with their cash windfall. In other words,
  the liberals who profit from claiming to speak for the
  poor don't have to reveal if their winnings are actually
  being spent on the poor. Russian money-laundering isn't
  this easy.

  Treasury sources insist they aren't against disclosure and
  want to find a solution. But if that's true seven hours
  sounds like a long time to fight about it. Mr. Gramm says
  Mr. Summers proposed to let CRA beneficiaries report
  to banks instead of to federal bank regulators. But banks
  have no power to require truthful disclosure or to punish
  falsehoods. So this "compromise" looks like a classic
  Clintonian loophole--sounds great, less fulfilling.

  At first glance it's hard to figure what the White House
  and Mr. Summers are up to politically. Banking reform
  would be a noteworthy achievement. And Hillary
  Rodham Clinton is running for Senate from New York,
  where many of the economic benefits would accrue.

  But this week Senate Democratic lead

[CTRL] Fwd: Organic View - An e-mail publication of the Organic Consumers Association

[piper]

 -Caveat Lector-

Organic View - An e-mail publication of the Organic
Consumers Association

The Organic Consumers Association is affiliated with the
Campaign for Food Safety

v.1 n.15October 14, 1999

Contents
1. Bonior letter Update  - Legislation Coming
2. Why Labeling?
3. Hain To Start Labeling GMO-Free
4. Cuban Organic Farming Association Wins Alternative Nobel
Prize
5. Activists Gear Up For World Trade Meeting in Seattle
6. Monsanto Halts Terminator Research
7. Important Recent Articles


1. Bonior Letter Update  - Legislation Coming

Thanks to the many of you who contacted your US
Representative or Senator regarding House Minority Whip
David Bonior's (D-MI) letter to the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) calling for the labeling of genetically
engineered food. (See Organic View, n.14
http://www.organicconsumers.org/RecentNews.stm#action)

As we go to press, the following US Representatives have
signed on to the Bonior letter: Michael Capuano (D-MA); Bill
Clay (D-MO); Peter DeFazio (D-OR); Loyd Doggett (D-TX);
Barney Frank (D-MA); Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD); Dennis Kucinich
(D-OH); George Miller (D-CA); Patsy Mink (D-HI); ); Martin
Sabo (D-MN); Christopher Shays (R-CT); Mike Thompson (D-CA);
Tom Udall (D-NM).

The deadline for getting additional signers has been
extended. So if you have not already, please contact your
member of Congress and ask that they sign on to the Bonior
letter to the FDA. You can find the mailing address, phone,
or e-mail directly your US Representatives at:
(http://www.house.gov/writerep/) If you wish, you can call
the national Capitol switchboard and ask to speak to your
Representative by calling toll-free 1-888-449-3511 (just
give them your zip code if you are not sure who your Rep
is).

Legislation Expected  - Representative Dennis Kucinich
(D-OH) will be introducing a bill in the next several weeks
that calls for the mandatory labeling of genetically
engineered foods. The bill is in its final stages of
development, and we will report its specific contents as
soon as it is made available. The bill may include a
provision which would exclude farmers from liability if
genetically engineered material spreads to other farms,
focusing possible future liability litigation on the biotech
industry, rather than farmers. We will keep you updated in
the coming weeks.

2. Why Labeling?

OCA firmly believes that genetically engineered crops pose
serious environmental and human health risks that have not
been adequately tested, and are a direct threat to organic
food production.

For these reasons, we are actively working toward:
(1) the labeling of genetically engineered foods and crops
until they are removed from the market;
(2) the removal of genetically engineered foods and crops
from the market;
(3) comprehensive pre-market safety testing of all
genetically engineered foods and crops.

The largest obstacle to fighting genetically engineered
foods is the lack of consumer awareness. Poll after poll has
found that between 80 and 95 percent of US consumers want
labeling. A Gallup poll released earlier this month found
that 68 percent of consumers would actually pay more to
cover labeling costs for genetically engineered foods. That
same poll found that only 10 percent of consumers have heard
much about genetically engineered foods.

A vigorous fight to label genetically engineered foods helps
raise public awareness about the issue, identify
policy-makers who share our concerns, and educate the media.
Not least of all, comprehensive labeling would respect
consumers' fundamental right-to-know what they are eating.
Labeling would give consumers the opportunity to directly
pressure food companies that use genetically engineered
ingredients, and support those who do not. Additionally, it
lays the groundwork to demand pre-market environmental and
human health safety testing.

However, we should be clear that the labeling of genetically
engineered foods and crops does not directly protect organic
farmers. The risks of genetically engineered material
drifting to neighboring organic farms would still exist. So
would increased pest resistance to the valuable natural
pesticide Bt - a common tool for organic farmers. And of
course, the plethora of environmental and human health risks
posed by this technology would still not effectively be
addressed.

Additionally, there is the possibility that labeling
language will be so vague, or in such small print, that it
will become meaningless. As efforts to label genetically
engineered foods and crops escalate in the US, let's keep in
mind the limits of labeling - and what we are all ultimately
working toward - the removal of genetically engineered foods
from our food supply.

3. Hain To Start Labeling GMO-Free

Earlier this month, Hain Food Group announced that it will
label its Little Bear line of natural snacks as genetically
engineered - free. Hain is switching the oil it uses in its
fryers from corn to safflower, a plant yet to be genetically
en

Re: [CTRL] WHALE & DOLPHIN ALERT!

[piper]

 -Caveat Lector-

Worse case scenario for this is that it could
also kill bacteria and coral that help biodegrade
those biodegradable.

With the potential of the bacteria
(that seems to live in a symbiotic relationship with oil
and other chemicals) being a pathogen to fish and
mammals.

If we kill all the bacteria that help us stay alive
will we go out like the dinosaurs?
The Pied Piper

--
Any person can stand adversity,
The true test is to give a person power.

If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you
will be.

Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus.

"I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of
others to differ from me in opinion"
   Thomas Jefferson

My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people:
those who do the work and
those who take the credit.
He told me to be in the first group -
 there is less competition there. -
Indira Gandhi

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Re: [CTRL] Time for civil disobedience (fwd)

[piper]

 -Caveat Lector-

"The American Nation" 9th edition by Garraty, John A.
Published 1998 by addison-Wesley p.841 (but also check out pages 838-840)

...(In 1968 yippies went through the motions of nominating a pig named Pigassus
for president.)...

-- my comment * Hippies and thier drugs were a nice step stone into Crack --

"Charles Reich, a professor at Yale, praised the
hippie view of the world in The Greening of America
(1970), dignifying it with the title Consciousness
III.  Reich's Consciousness I was the do-it-yourself,
laissez-faire approach to life--having "more faith in
winning than in love"; Consciousness II was the
psychology of "liberal intellectuals" and "members
of the Communist Party, U.S.A." and the Kennedys
--marked by faith in institutional solutions to
problems.  Reich taught a course on Individualism in
America.  One semester he had over 500 students,
not one of whom failed.  According to the Yale
Course Guide, published by students, Professor Reich
"thinks kids are neat and what can be bad about
someone telling you how the system and the older
generation have warped and destreoyed things for us?"...

-- My comment * Mind control?  also it does not tell when he taught the other
courses
was he a professor when Bush Jr. was there and are these history course???--



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> < the door to the Sixties. You wouldn't want THAT kind of decade to
> happen again, now, would you?>>
>
> Since it was before my time and I never got to be a teenager anyway (or
> a kid for that matter) I would like to have it back just long enough to
> do all that stuff that they did back then & still get away with it..
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> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Any person can stand adversity,
The true test is to give a person power.

If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will
be.

Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus.

"I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of
others to differ from me in opinion"
   Thomas Jefferson

My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people:
those who do the work and
those who take the credit.
He told me to be in the first group -
 there is less competition there. -
Indira Gandhi

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[CTRL] Cyberwarfare is on.....THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY

[lloyd]

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..

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Subject: Cyberwarfare is on.THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY
Date: Saturday, October 16, 1999 5:28 AM

Cyberwarfare is on.
   FRIDAY  OCTOBER 15   1999

   THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY
   Can Internet curb Clinton power?
   'We're not surrendering, we're
   fighting back,' congressman vows

   By Sarah Foster
   © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

 Inspired in part by the successful use of the Internet in derailing the
 "Know Your Customer" regulation promulgated by the Federal Deposit
 Insurance Agency, a group of 14 congressmen and eight constitutional
 Attorneys plan to take the fight for American liberties and national
 sovereignty to cyberspace.

 The Liberty Study Committee, organized by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas,
 will focus on three interrelated issues: privacy, including efforts to
 require Americans to have a national ID; presidential executive orders;
 and the United Nations.

 "I am sorry and dismayed that our liberty is indeed being taken," Paul
 says, explaining the mission of the committee. "However, regret and
 disappointment are not the same as surrender. We are not
 surrendering, we are fighting back."

 And they are doing so with determination. According to Kent Snyder,
 the group's executive director, the Liberty Study Committee is not a
 think tank or research foundation, but an "action-oriented organization"
 that will enable Americans to make their voices heard in Congress.
 "Everything we do is to advance the legislative remedy to a problem,"
 Snyder told WorldNetDaily. "That's priority one for the Liberty Study
 Committee. There are plenty of organizations that do research, and we
 encourage that, but our primary focus is not education but the legislative
 solution. Everything we do must advance the solution -- a specific piece
 of legislation. And we will use the Internet to do it."

 Although it's a new group, the Liberty Study Committee has already
 made its presence felt on Capitol Hill. Earlier this year they set up a
 website, NoNationalID.com. With a click of a mouse, people could write
 what they thought about national IDs and e-mail the message directly to
 their representative and the two senators from their state.
 On Oct. 1, the House passed the Omnibus Transportation Bill, which
 included a rider by Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., repealing a section of a
 statute passed in 1996 requiring that, as of Oct. 1, 2000, Americans
 would be forced to carry a national ID. Under provisions of the Illegal
 Immigration Reform and Responsibility Act, without an ID no one would
 be allowed to board a commercial flight, purchase a handgun, receive
 federal benefits or take a new, private sector job.

 Although the repeal language survived the House Appropriations
 Committee, there was concern that it might be deleted on the floors of
 the House and possibly the Senate.
 That didn't happen. The repeal language was kept by both houses --
 thanks in large part to public response flooding congressional offices
 with e-mails, faxes and letters.

 "This is a great moment for all Americans," said Paul, who led the fight
 in the House. "We have succeeded in defeating a program that would
 have deprived Americans of constitutional liberties, while imposing a
 massive federal bureaucracy to monitor their every step from cradle to
 grave."
 Snyder detailed the victory to WorldNetDaily.
 "We had a lot of people going to the site, a lot of people sending
 messages at the very last minute," Snyder said. "Sources who were
 involved in the process admitted that our presence was definitely felt."
 Although elated, Snyder cautioned that "the issue isn't going to go
 away."

 "The committee must remain alert for any push for any form of a
 national ID card," he said. "We kno

[CTRL] Cell phones and radiation on ABC news, 20/20

[Dave]

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_991020cellphones.html


 New Studies Call for More Research, Some Scientists Say

20/20 arranged for a leading research laboratory in Europe to conduct tests
on five popular cell phone models to determine how much microwave radiation
can be absorbed into the head of a cell phone user, depending on how the
phones are held. (ABCNEWS)


By Brian Ross
ABCNEWS.com
Oct. 20 — While the cell phone industry has assured consumers for years that
cellular phones are completely safe, the industry’s former research director
has now come forward to say this can no longer be presumed.  ABCNEWS' Brian
Ross reports about new questions on cell phone risks. RealVideo
(download RealPlayer)

 “The industry had come out and said that there were thousands of
studies that proved that wireless phones are safe, and the fact was that
there were no studies that were directly relevant,” says Dr. George Carlo.
For the past six years, Carlo ran the cell phone industry’s $25 million
research program, which has studied the effects of microwave radiation from
cell phones.
 “We’ve moved into an area where we now have some direct evidence of
possible harm from cellular phones,” Carlo says in an interview with ABCNEWS
’ 20/20.
 Although Carlo does not say that cell phones are unsafe, he does say
that more research is needed.
 The $200-billion-a-year cell phone industry maintains the devices are
safe.
 “There is a preponderance of evidence that there is not a linkage
between the use of wireless phones and health effects,” says Thomas Wheeler,
president of the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association, the
industry’s trade group.
 The industry has announced that it supports and will sponsor follow-up
research.


Electromagnetic Waves Sent Into Brain
What many of the country’s 80 million cell phone users may not know is that
cell phones send electromagnetic waves into users’ brains. In fact, every
cell phone model sold in the United States has a specific measurement of how
much microwave energy from the phone can penetrate the brain.
 Depending on how close the cell phone antenna is to the head, as much
as 60 percent of the microwave radiation is absorbed by and actually
penetrates the area around the head, some reaching an inch to an
inch-and-a-half into the brain.
 “This is the first generation that has put relatively high-powered
transmitters against the head, day after day,” says Dr. Ross Adey, who has
worked for industry and government for decades studying microwave radiation,
and is one of the most respected scientists in the field.



Position Matters
The cell phone industry says every phone it sells is safe and meets
government radiation safety limits. But tests conducted by 20/20 and being
made public on tonight’s program have found that some of the country’s most
popular cell phones can — depending on how they’re held — exceed the
radiation limit.
 20/20 reports that government testing guidelines are so vague that a
phone can pass the Federal Communications Commission’s requirements when
tested in one position and exceed those maximum levels when held in another
position.
 The cell phone industry says every phone sold in the United States
meets the federal safety standard, and that there is a huge margin of safety
built into the standard.
 “There isn’t data to show that what is happening has a health effect,”
Wheeler says, adding that there is no need for Americans to cut back on
their cell phone use.
 Along with the test results, the 20/20 story shows how users can
significantly reduce their exposure to microwave radiation from cell phones.

Richard Allyn and Brenda Breslauer contributed to this report.
===
Mobile Phone Radiation Is Linked To Cancer
http://www.radar3.com/mobilephone-radiation.html

 World wide studies have shown that using a mobile\cellular phone may result
in the development of brain cancer.
http://www.microanswers.co-uk.com/


A groundswell is occurring among environmental and other organizations,
concerned about harmful microwave radiation that may be emanating from
cellular phones.
Some organizations are accusing the telcos of following in the tobacco
company footsteps, completely ignoring proof of the dangers to society and
especially cellular phone users.
Three recent surveys may bear these organizations out, however.  A recent
Scandinavian survey found a direct correlation between cellular phone usage
and incidences of headaches, memory loss, nausea, and dizziness.
Another study, this time from France, found a five-fold increase in the
infant-mortality rate of chicks exposed to cellular radiation.
Finally, an Australian study found that mice exposed to cellular phones
developed lymphoma (cancer of the immune system) at a rate more than double
what was expected.
While

Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program

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In a message dated 10/22/99 12:40:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> "[T]he Sword of Phinehas (thrust through a man and a woman joined in
>  sexual union"... does this mean that the Phineas Priests radically
>  misinterpreted the episode from which they take their name? I.e., if what
>  was portrayed in the Bible as purely an act of racial and cultic
>  purification was in fact an act of magickal power...how much MORE of the
>  Bible has hidden (occult!) significance?

This is a very interesting question.  There is, of course, much in the bible
which is occultic in provenence which is only slightly hidden, but deeper
ideas may also be hidden as well.  Consider the "orders" by YHWH to Saul and
other Kings of Israel to kill EVERYONE of the enemy, even the women and
children as well as all the animals.  This is very much like a magical act to
erase the identity of the group for all time, a sacrifice of mammoth
proportions.  Indeed, the sacrificial nature of Jewish religion could be seen
in a purely Magickal light, in that the spilling of blood, and SECRET rituals
by the ELITE of the society (priests), could garner favor from "supreme"
being(s), and give POWER to the practitioners.


practitioners.  
**
***

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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