Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer

2000-06-03 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 OZONE HOLE OVER ARCTIC SURPRISES RESEARCH TEAM
  by David Perlman, Science Editor
 San Francisco Chronicle, May 31, 2000
  "The findings are surprising because scientists had expected
 that the protective ozone layer would recover after
 ozone-destroying chemicals known as chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs,
 were banned by international treaty four years ago."
__

THIS REPORT IS A LIE!
IT IS PURE UNADULTERATED BULLHOCKEY!
THIS ISN'T AN OPINION.IT IS A FACT!

HERE IS THE TRUTH.
CFC gasses (chlorofluorocarbons) are five time heavier than air.
If you fill a balloon with CFC gas (Freon), tie off the balloon and then
release the balloonIT WILL IMMEDIATELY FALL TO THE GROUND!
It does not rise into the air as a balloon filled with helium will do.

OK.so what?
Soheavy CFC gas molecules do not rise high into the atmosphere
and destroy the Ozone Layer which is 12 to 30 miles above the
earth's surface.
THERE ARE NO CFC GASSES 12 TO 30 MILES UP IN THE SKY!
Even if some were intentionally released at high altitude, the CFC gas
molecules would sink through the air back down to the earth's surface.
Once there, they would find the lowest hole or crack they could sink into
and stay there.
This is basic laws of physics.
CFC molecules are extremely stable. They do not readily break down.
Then tend to remain intact.
The last "C" in CFC stands for  Carbon.
Carbon is heavy.  Carbon is the main reason that CFC molecules are
much heavier than air.

The following statement in this newspaper report is true but misleading:
"Highly reactive chlorine can destroy ozone molecules on contact..."
Correct.  Chlorine does destroy ozone.
However, the world's oceans naturally release millions of times more
chlorine than all of the CFC gasses ever produced!
Volcanoes also produce vast amounts of chlorine gas.
One large volcano such as Mt. St. Helen's or Mt. Penitubo in the Phillipines,
sprew vast amounts of chlorine gas into the air.
But the ozone layer has existed for millions of years despite these
large quantities of chlorine produced by the oceans and by volcanoes.

SO  WHY  ARE  WE  BEING  LIED  TO  ABOUT  THIS??
WHY  ARE  FALSE  AND  MISLEADING  NEWS  STORIES
LIKE  THIS  ONE  BEING  PUT  OUT  IN  THE  ALLEGED  NEWS  MEDIA?

BECAUSE  THE  OZONE  LAYER  IS  BEING  DISTURBED  AND
AFFECTED  AND  A  "COVER  STORY"  WAS  NEEDED.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT IS AFFECTING
THE OZONE LAYER, YOU SHOULD READ THE BOOK:
ANGELS  DON'T  PLAY  THIS  HAARP  BY  DR.  NICK  BEGICH.
IT'S AVAILABLE FROM AMAZON.COM

THE OFFICIAL LITERATURE ABOUT HAARP CLEARLY STATES
THAT IT'S PURPOSE IS:
"...TO CONTROL THE IONOSPHERE FOR MILITARY PURPOSES".

THINK ABOUT THAT!
"TO CONTROL THE IONOSPHERE FOR MILITARY PURPOSES"

THE OFFICIAL LITERATURE ALSO STATES THAT HAARP HAS A
DESIGNED CAPABILITY TO "ALTER THE GAS COMPOSITION
OF THE IONOSPHERE"

NOW  YOU  KNOW...THE  REST  OF  THE  STORY!

 Regards to All
Nakano

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[CTRL] SAI BABA - A Master of Love or Deception

2000-06-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

SAI BABA

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/
Photo and links on url

A Master of Love?


A Master of Deception?


or Both





The Sai Baba Files


From the Reporter:

These files are not meant to condemn but to concern.

To explore, to discover more about Sai Baba and his millions of devotees and
thousands of centers. To understand what makes someone become a devotee. Is
it for the spiritual weak, confused spirits trying to find their Master
outside themselves instead of by going inside to follow their only Own
Master?

Are the devotees giving away their strength, their inner power, or are they
gaining on strength and inner power?

For what purpose does Sai Baba present so much magical entertainment and
tricks like a magician in a theatre?
Is this to impress his followers about his so called "divine" abilities?

Why does Sai Baba uses in his discourses or in the written publications the
words "Me" and "He" instead of just "me" and "he"?
Is this to impress his followers about his divinity?
But why?
Since everybody, without exception, is divine, an aspect of the Divine.

Why are the celebrations of his birthday attended by many of his devotees
and followers, giving the impression that Sai Baba is someone very especial?

Isn't everyone of the human family very especial and unique?
Why this kind of adoration of, devotion to a single person, with chantings
repeating his name?

Is it wise to adore one single person?
Wouldn't it be wiser to adore everyone on Earth indiscriminately, or perhaps
even better, not to adore anyone?

Isn't everyone everyone a precious child of God, including Sai Baba?
He has written books and given many discourses containing much wisdom, and
has been and is helping many poor people, but why create contentiously this
image of self-importance?

Isn't it written that humbleness is the road to God, and to be aware not to
follow two masters and be aware of the false gods!

Why this chanting meetings, during which Sai Baba's name is being repeated?
Isn't this counterproductive to aligning oneself with a part of totality,
stimulating a part of consciousness and wouldn't it be wiser to align
ourselves only with totality, our Source of Being, our Divine Creator?

Why does Sai Baba present himself as being omnipresent, omniscient"?
Is this to impress or attract followers to become dependent, giving away
their inner light and power?

It is our understanding that our Source of Being, Divine Creator, our
Father/Mother GOD or whatever name you wish to attribute to our Source of
Being, IS omnipresent and omniconscient, and IT IS everything and everyone,
seen and unseen.

At the same time everyone and everything is a part, an aspect, or a
reflection of our Source of Being, our Father/Mother God. In other words
each you, me, each devotee, Sai Baba and everyone in the world else is just
an aspect, a reflection of our Source of Being.

No one of them is more or less special or important. But it is our
understanding that our Source of Being, our Father/Mother God IS you, IS me,
IS each devotee, IS Sai Baba as anyone IT IS in the world.

We invite you visitor, Sai Baba and all the devotees to study our documents;

Understanding Divine Creator and creation and
The Cosmic Laws or Principles
Pearls of Wisdom
A Galactic Overview,Journey in Oneness


Could it be that from his childhood has hypnotized himself or allowed
himself to be hypnotized with the believe that Being God instead of Its
aspect or reflection, and is hypnotizing in his turn millions of millions of
devotees. Sai Baba in his discourse Revelations of Divinity 14 Jan. 1999:

"I have repeatedly declared that students are My property."

"No one needs to worry about My welfare. I can do anything and everything."

"I am narrating this episode only to affirm the fact that I go to any extent
to protect My devotees who obey My commands."


Cultivate Discipline  Love (extract discourse 15 Oct. 1999)

"No one should come in between the noble heart of Swami and the sacred minds
of the students. Some of the elders sitting in the Verandah are indulging in
gossip; It is finding its way into the Internet. Anyone found talking in the
Verandah should be sent out immediately, whosoever it may be. All those who
give misleading information about what Swami tells them in the interview
room should also be thrown out. I will never call such people for interview
again. Only those who observe silence are good people. Silence fosters
purity. Therefore observe silence at all times. It is a waste of time if you
carry tales about others. What have you come here for? Vain gossip causes
harm to many. So refrain from indulging in it."


For you to discern.

The Files are open.


Who is Sai Baba?

(from an ex devotee):

Sathya Sai Baba (his real name is Sathya Narayana Raju) was born in the
remote village of Puttaparthi, in south-central India, on November 23, 1926.
His official biography is compiled by N. Kasturi. At the age of 13/14, after
a kind of "crisis" , he left the 

[CTRL] UNITED RELIGIONS 2/2

2000-06-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

 I already posted part 1 before and its on this url.

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/

UNITED RELIGIONS (PART 2)

---

www.cuttingedge.org
From Cutting Edge:

Now, the political United Nations has a spiritual equivalent, a New World
Order Religion, called "United Religions". The target date for full
implementation is the same year as all other New World Order target date,
2,000 AD.

The discussions that flowed from this assignment reflected our deepest
yearnings to live in a safe world that more nearly reflects the divine love
for every being; a world where people respect and honor each other, serve
the needy, and are caretakers of the earth and all its life; a world where
religion no longer leads to hatred and violence, but to dialogue, the
celebration of diversity, and cooperative action for global good.

[Note: Now, you have the word for which we had been waiting: "safe". Just as
the Bible foretells, this new United Religion is being advanced on the twin
themes of "Peace and Safety". The time is truly growing short] "The
conference didn't end with dreaming. The participants were challenged to
create a plan of action to help those dreams become a reality. That plan
includes an effort to create a vast network of support and guidance by
holding gatherings all over the world, in early 1997, to allow people from
different countries, cultures, religions, and educational, work, and
economic backgrounds to meet and help shape the vision of a United
Religions.

The voices, images, and commitments-to-action from these gatherings and
other outreach efforts over the next year will inspire the charter-writing
process to begin in San Francisco in June 1997." The most effective way to
achieve success in human endeavor is to set goals, called here "a plan of
action". But, to drive your Plan of Action forward, you also need to set a
timetable at which the various parts of your Plan can be expected to be
achieved. This is simply good principles of management.



Timeline for United Religions Initiative

Therefore, we find it highly significant that the leaders of this United
Religions Project have also created a "Timeline for UR 2000". We find it
even more interesting to notice that this religious timeline is for the year
2000, which is precisely the year at which the political and business plans
call for full implementation of their parts of the New World Order -- the
year 2000!!! Thus, like all good complex plans, their timing is identical!!
"

* July 1996 - 1997, the Initiative will engage in a global campaign using a
UR workbook, regional visioning conferences, and the Internet to enlist
input and support for the creation of a United Religions from leaders, on a
global and grassroots level, around the world.

* June 23-27, 1997, the Initiative will host a conference, in Stanford
University, California, for 100 delegates from the historic religions and
100 representatives of spiritual and other movements, to craft a
charter-writing process.

* June 1997-June 1998, conference participants will engage their own
communities in valuing progress to date, further refining the UR Vision and
purpose, and in determining what role they wish to play in the creation of a
United Religions by the year 2000. We imagine meetings being held both
within faith traditions, and among them and other stakeholders to gather
input for the charter-writing to begin in 1998.

* June 1998 - June 2000, the United Religions Charter will be developed and
revised through a series of annual June Charter-Writing Conferences. Between
conferences, drafts of the charter will be circulated globally for comments
and revision. Work to create a broader and broader network of participation
in the UR initiative will continue throughout the charter-writing process.

* June 26, 2000, the United Religions Charter will be signed, while a
walking pilgrimage for peace among religions takes place in villages, towns,
and cities throughout the world. Thus, in June 26, 2000, the United
Religions Charter will be signed, probably in Jerusalem, in accordance with
Bill Lambert's revelations, quoted above. It will probably be at this
Charter ceremony, in Jerusalem, that the Pope will announce that all world's
religions are one.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1094.cfm



Youth Global Network Symbol For New Global Religion

Received: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:24:16 +1300

United Religions Initiative - Youth Global Network Symbol For New Global
Religion "Nearly 200 delegates wrapped up a week-long interfaith meeting at
Stanford on Friday, predicting they had given birth to a movement as well as
a spiritual institution: the United Religions. The 'spiritual United
Nations', as some have referred to it, would be a world assembly for
humanity's myriad spiritual traditions. The international 'summit
conference' brought together delegates from every continent to inaugurate
formal efforts to figure out the organization's structure and mission and
launch a charter-writing 

[CTRL] CHEMTRAILS-POISON FROM THE SKIES

2000-06-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

 http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/world/chemtrailsworld.htm

CHEMTRAILS-POISON FROM THE SKIES

A documentation about Chemtrails


TARA Mission Statement
http://home.earthlink.net/~wolfmind/ms.html

TARA CHEMTRAILS DOCUMENTATION
http://home.earthlink.net/~wolfmind/CT01.html

TARA CHEMTRAILS DOCUMENTATION AND MORE PHOTOS
http://home.earthlink.net/~wolfmind/CTPhotos.html

TARA HOME
http://home.earthlink.net/~wolfmind/

MORE ABOUT CHEMTRAILS
Educate Yourself Organisation



Updates May 2000

CHEMTRAILS STORIES AND LINKS

Analyst warns of chemical and bioligical attacks
http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=84123

Chemtrails Billow Over Minneapolis-St. Paul
http://www.sightings.com/general/billow.htm
This is the first time I'd seen this in our area, and in fact I'd begun to
doubt the existence of such spraying until I saw it for myself. I wish to
apologize to those who have been researching this phenomenon, for my lack of
faith. When you see nothing in the newspapers or on local or national news
programs, you tend to drift toward the skeptical side of things. I now know
better...

Spraying Of Cities Is Real
http://www.sightings.com/politics2/spray2.htm

Eyewitness Watches Chemtrails Cover Entire Flagstaff Sky
http://www.sightings.com/general/flag.htm

Listener Beats Chemtrails By Installing Air Filtration System  Wearing
Respirator http://www.sightings.com/general/beatchem.htm

View Reports Of Contrails/Chemtrails in Indiana
http://www.terrehauteweb.com/chemtrails.html
I personally witness suspicious looking contrails above Terre Haute at least
3 times week. I Just keep an eye on the sky yourself - Then decide.

Heavy Chemtrails - And A Green Fluorescent Mountain - In Alaska
http://www.sightings.com/general/aalaskachem.htm


Satellite image of trails over Indiana and Kentucky on April 10, 2000 at
09:13 amc: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/kanuckster/Sat/Ind04100913c.jpg

My Contrail/Chemtrail site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/mn/kanuck


More satellite images with trails at:
http://www.angelfire.com/mn2/kanuckski/Skytrails.html

CONTRAIL(Chemtrail) Reports and Links from Indiana(50)
http://contrailconnection.com/states/indiana.htm

Contrails (Chemtrails) (APFN)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/contrails.htm



Updates May 2000

Chemtrails over America
http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco/investsky.htm

Clifford Carnicom (Chemtrails info/pictures/proves)
http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm
http://www.carnicom.com/bio1.htm
http://www.carnicom.com/conright.htm

In regard to biological testing :
The Secretary of Defense may conduct a test or experiment ONLY IF INFORMED
CONSENT TO THE TESTING WAS OBTAINED FROM EACH HUMAN SUBJECT in advance of
the testing on that subject.
(read full text of law)
http://www.carnicom.com/thelaw.htm

Contrail Connection
http://www.contrailconnection.com/hits.htm

US MAPS: spray and population densities
http://strangehaze.freeservers.com/reports/USMap.html

EUROPE:
For a satellite view of contrail/chemtrail activity over Europe see:
http://chat.click2site.com/Contrails/0_satellite_central_europe.jpg




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Re: [CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3

2000-06-03 Thread Samantha L.

  Thank you for responding.  I bought the book and read it a few years ago.
It was shocking, yes, but also not entirely believable.  I'd already done a
fair amount of reading on satanic ritual abuse and mind control when I read
this book.  Some of the information was similar to what I'd learned and much
was new.  I couldn't bring myself to trust Mark's account or his motivation.
That was the main problem I had with the book.
   I still don't understand why publishing the book himself was safer than
going through a publishing house.  It's the mechanics of the publishing
process as it relates to the CIA that I do not understand.

Samantha

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   Samantha,
I just finished the published book, Trance Formation
  of America, and if you get a chance I would recommend
  you do the same. This "David and Goliath" story will
  answer those questions, without hesitation. I would
  say I comprehend the seriousness of the situation,
  only through the exposure of these ultimately
  anti-humanity
  versed individuals, and in the reality of how heavily
  it "strong arms" all the perception possibilities, to
  the point of it actually placing EVERYONE at risk, if
  not in total control.

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[CTRL] Letters to the Editor re: UFO article (fwd)

2000-06-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:23:10 -0700
From: Lucia August [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Letters to the Editor re: UFO article

Hi Friends:

Here's a copy of a Letter to the Editor I'm sending out to 6
newspapers here in the Bay Area.  Maybe some of you out there
would also be interested in doing the same.  The more they hear
from us, the more likely they're going to print this and other
serious articles.  By the way, if you don't have a copy of the
article, let me know and I'll email it to you.

Onward,

Lucia (loosha)

~
May 31, 2000

Editor

Dear Sir or Madam:

I’ve enclosed the online version of an article published in the
Sunday edition of the Boston Globe, dated May 21, 2000.  It’s an
exceptional article by a local Bay Area free lance reporter,
Leslie Kean, entitled _UFO theorists gain support abroad, but
repression at home_.  I would strongly urge you to reprint this
article in your paper due to the importance of the information
presented.

The article discusses a study by high-level military officials in
France called the COMETA report.  After a three year study, the
authors conclude that “5 percent of sightings on which there is
solid documentation cannot be easily attributed to earthly
sources, such as secret military exercises”. The group, which
includes a four star general and the former head of the French
equivalent of NASA, is urging international cooperation with the
European Union, the United States and other countries to study
the UFO matter.

The Boston Globe and later the Minneapolis Star-Tribune which
picked up the story for it’s May 28th Sunday Paper, both
exhibited courage in publishing Leslie Kean's article. It is so
important for information of this nature to be made available to
the American people.  Obviously, the information regarding
possible extraterrestrial activity is available to citizens of
other countries.  It is a puzzle to me why a free nation like the
United States would hesitate to publicly and openly discuss this
matter on an official level.

I deeply hope that you will take up the charge and bravely
publish this article and other serious, responsible ones of this
type in your newspaper.

Sincerely,


Lucia August


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[CTRL] Thompson: Elian's Nightmare Team

2000-06-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/6/2/133729

Elian's Nightmare Team
Jack Thompson
June 2, 2000

The tragic ruling yesterday by the 11th Circuit yesterday
underscores what every lawyer knows: Good trial lawyers make a
lot of money because they know how to win.

And, as Jimmy Connors, the tennis great once said: "I don't like
winning as much as I simply hate losing."

Elian's lawyers just sustained their third loss in court, and
apparently they've grown to like it.

O.J. Simpson had a "Dream Team" comprised of skilled lawyers who
had one object in mind--winning.

Elian's compilation of third-rate lawyers, many of whom have
little trial experience and none of whom have any background in
fighting the government, must forever be known as his "Nightmare
Team."

But they'll sleep well knowing they went through the motions at
least. It's the boy who has a life of nightmares ahead of him.

These were lawyers more interested in process than results. This
is why Kendall Coffey, the head of the Nightmare Team, chose
after the ruling to go on, of all shows, Rivera Live, to praise
the three 11th Circuit judges "for their wonderfully thoughtful,
well-reasoned opinion."

At a press conference yesterdar Coffey spoke as if he had won the
case because the judges, while rejecting Elian's asylum claim,
had some criticism of the INS.

Earth to Kendall: The judges rejected your client's claim. Do you
get it?

Kendall should have atken the three judges to task for the INS'
claim that Juan Miguel, Elian's father, "is not under duress."

That is a finding of fact for which there is a great deal of
rebutting evidence. Where do you introduce such evidence? At an
asylum hearing, that's where.

Here is a court that never heard from Coffey or anyone else
before it that the boy was taken by an illegal raid,
unconstitutional on its face, and that there can be no hearing,
not even a hearing on whether or not to have an asylum hearing,
until the plaintiff in the case--the boy himself--gets to meet
with his counsel. Even Alan Dershowitz said by seizing the boy
the federal government had deprived him of his own lawyer. And
dershowitz noted that Coffey could not be Elian's attorney.
Indeed, Elian needed a counsel with some moxy and some skill.

Here is a court that found there was a loophole in Congress's
asylum laws, since they do not address the issue of whether a
minor boy can apply for asylum over a surviving father's
objection.

If Coffey was honest he shouldn't have even argued this case as
he has NO real experience in immigration law. The case should
have been argued by the likes of Roger Pilon, a lawyer, a man
interviewed twice by me for NewsMax, who was Ronald Reagan's head
of the asylum division at Justice, who actually wrote the
regulations closing that alleged loophole, delineating in detail
how a child as young as six years old could and should apply for
asylum over a parent's wishes.

But the court never heard this, because Elian had a decaffeinated
lawyer by the name of Coffey who didn't want to rock the
Democratic boat that seized the boy. Coffey has big plans for
himself that involve the good wishes of Miami's Democratic Party.
Remember, hsi lucrative law practice depends on his political
connections. Coffey knows that long after he dispoeses of Elian
he wants to continue making big bucks at his law firm. This is
why incompetence, welded to self-interest, spelled doom for the
boy.

Coffey's excuse for not raising the illegality of the raid to the
11th Circuit was that that "could always be raised later in
proceedings before the trial court in Miami."

Really? When are those proceedings going to occur?

The 11th Circuit didn't order them, because they were not asked
by the Nightmare Team to do so.

Too bad for this country and this boy that Kendall Coffey didn't
represent O.J. and Johnny Cochrane didn't represent Elian. If
that switch had happened, one murderer would be behind bars and
another wouldn't be on the verge of getting his propaganda
trophy, the significance of which will not be lost on the
butchers of Tianamen Square.

Elian, you need a new lawyer, as NewsMax told you the first week
of April.

Only God can get him to your side at what is nearly the stroke of
midnight.


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[CTRL] \\bahai// Attacks, Bullying

2000-06-03 Thread lloyd

..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: \\bahai// Attacks, Bullying
Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 8:41 AM

This file contains two messages: "attacks by Bahais"
 "Bahai Bullying":

The non-Bahai will note that a year later, now March 2000,
my fellow Bahais only continue, with renewed ferocity, their
attempts to silence and suppress what they don't want you
to know about:

Incessant Bahai attacks upon my freedom of speech
and liberty, as well as on others, have made it necessary for
me to adopt a persona for my own protection and well being.
Other measures have been taken.

During the late winter and spring of 1999, Bahais twice flooded
my hotmail account with up to 1000 messages per day
resulting in considerable inconvenience and expenditure
of time and effort to block, and ultimately close, the
offending accounts; they have, by using numerous Bahai trolls,
especially Gyr Falcon, slandered, maligned, and caricatured
me in a further effort to discredit me and portray me on
talk.religion.bahai and elsewhere as a disturbed and errant
individual; through concerted false charges and allegations against
me, they have now succeeded in deceiving Hotmail into closing
my email account, which I depended on for a considerable
part of my income and livelihood.

For documentation of many similar incidents of Bahai oppression
during the last decade, see The Bahai Faith  Religious Freedom of
Conscience:

http://members.tripod.com/~fglaysher/bahai.htm


---
BULLYING:

I'm alarmed at the Bahai attempts, during May of 1999,
at character assassination, ridicule, and generally
portraying me and others as disturbed individuals. This
tactic has been used for over three years and continues
to be used against me and other Bahais and non-Bahais
or ex-Bahais on and off talk.religion.bahai.

I have never claimed to be perfect. At times I have
apologized to Bahais, Muslims, and other non-Bahais
when I felt, or was convinced, that I was wrong or had
spoken unfairly. I find the constant technique to portray
me as a megalomanic or paranoid quite offensive.

Similarly, the tactic of accusing me of spam for posting
my opinions is calculated to discredit the validity of my and
others' concerns regarding censorship in Bahai forums and
has also been used on AOL. Such accusations reveal the
frustration that Bahai fundamentalists apparently feel over
my having found ways of enduring and resisting the onslaught of
their concerted attacks, while preserving a historical record on
a markedly ephermeral medium for innocent Bahais and
non-Bahais

Fair-minded Bahai and non-Bahai observers may
judge for themselves whether my and others' allegations of
censorship are valid by reading the record preserved under
"Assorted Controversial Documents" on my website at

http://members.tripod.com/~fglaysher/bahai.htm

As further corroboration that I am not the only person
concerned with the intolerance and censorship that has
overtaken the Bahai Faith, I recommend Professor Juan Cole's
new book Modernity  the Millennium: The Genesis of the
Bahai Faith in the Nineteenth-Century Middle East, available
through Columbia University Press or Amazon.com at

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0231110812/002-4036721-8058448

In his conclusion, which would never have passed the
system of Bahai "review" that the UHJ imposes on all
publications brought out under its tight control, Professor Cole,
of the Department of History at The University of Michigan,
quite accurately identifies the distortions that have been
wreaked upon Baha'u'llah's Teachings:

"Some contemporary leaders of the Baha'i Faith have given
answers increasingly similar to those of fundamentalists,
stressing scriptural literalism, patriachy, theocracy,
censorship, intellectual intolerance, and denying key
democratic values. While the values of the nineteenth-
century Baha'i movement, which was far more tolerant,
continue to exist as a minority view, by the late 1990s a
different set of emphases prevailed." (196)

He himself and many others, as evidence under the
"Assorted Controversial Documents," have suffered at the
hands of the fundamentalists who have taken control of the
religion:

"The rise of academic Baha'i scholarship has caused
tension in the community, whose present-day leadership
tends to be fundamentalist and antiliberal in orientation,
and this has led to pressure on a number of prominent
academics to resign or dissociate themselves from the
movement." (201)

These same forces of fundamentalist orthodoxy are
evident on AOL, talk.religion.bahai, and alt.religion.bahai
for impartial viewers to witness. They will be evident
to all perceptive observers of whatever forum Bahais may
be trying to control and influence.

As a Bahai since 1976, I myself have always
found especially repulsive the manner in which Bahai

[CTRL] AP: Report Says Finance Probe Caused Serious FBI-Justice Tensions

2000-06-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Report Says Finance Probe Caused Serious FBI-Justice Tensions

By Larry Margasak
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Quarrels between the Justice Department and the
FBI over appointment of an independent campaign finance
investigator had a "devastating impact" on relations among those
investigating fund-raising abuses, officials acknowledged in a
report obtained Friday.

The differences - Justice's determination that no special
prosecutor was warranted and the FBI's support for one - have
surfaced before. But the General Accounting Office report, based
on interviews with several key players, described the
disagreements and their impact in detail.

Lee Radek, chief of the Justice Department's public integrity
section, spoke to congressional investigators as did FBI
officials about the bitterness that has enveloped the
department's Campaign Finance Task Force, created in December
1996.

Attorney General Janet Reno has kept the investigation under
Justice Department control, unswayed by arguments by Republican
lawmakers, FBI Director Louis Freeh and former task force chief
Charles LaBella.

The animosity became so severe that Freeh, seeking an expansive
probe, ordered his agents to strike out on their own to interview
White House and Democratic Party officials. Cautious prosecutors
not only opposed the move but told the GAO that the agents
virtually paralyzed the task force's operations for weeks.

Eventually, the prosecutors and agents had to be separated on
separate floors.

"Mr. Radek said that he believed that the FBI was too anxious to
recommend the need for an Independent Counsel and that in his
opinion the information gathered did not justify seeking the
appointment of an independent counsel," the report said. "He
added that their disagreement over this issue had a devastating
impact on the relationship between the FBI and PI (the Public
Integrity section)."

A Justice Department statement said Friday that "it is not news
that there were fundamental disagreements in 1997 between
prosecutors and FBI investigators" but contended that Reno and
Freeh "moved decisively" to bring in new leadership and address
the problems.

"Nothing in the report suggests that the frictions continued
beyond that time, and one only need look at the task force's
success record to see that any personal disagreements that may
have existed three years ago did not affect the task force's work
product," the department said.

Radek's comments referred to the period in 1997 when he was
directly in control of the investigation, but even after he
relinquished the direct role, he remained a key player in
opposing an independent investigation.

Neil Gallagher, an FBI assistant director, "believed that Mr.
Radek's criteria for what information was needed to trigger the
seeking of an independent counsel were too stringent," the report
said.

Freeh recommended to Reno in a November 1997 memo that she seek
an independent investigation, and in July 1998, LaBella made the
same recommendation. Reno refused on grounds evidence was
insufficient to trigger the independent counsel law, which since
has expired.

The disagreements encompassed other matters, the report said.

FBI officials also accused the attorneys of "excessive
participation in traditional investigative functions, especially
interviews of witnesses where agents felt they were being used
mainly as note takers."

There were severe differences in the investigative approach, with
the Justice prosecutors seeking to build the investigation
methodically, "from the ground up," and the FBI agents trying "to
pursue several investigative tracks simultaneously."

Justice officials wanted "to avoid prematurely tipping off
potential witnesses and investigative targets," the report said.
It added that Radek "did not believe specific predication existed
... to justify all the investigative tracks proposed by the
investigators." He also "believed the press created expectations
for a major scandal, rather than allowing the investigative
process to make that determination."

Gallagher said that on the basis of news reports about White
House coffees for campaign contributors, "The FBI wanted to
investigate ... whether the White House had violated campaign
finance laws."

In June 1997, Freeh directed investigators to interview more than
100 individuals including White House and Democratic National
Committee employees who were not yet the focus of the task force
efforts.

The head of the task force at the time, Laura Ingersoll, said as
a result of the interviews, 90 percent of the investigative
resources were unavailable for two to three weeks.

The task force has charged 25 individuals and one corporation for
violations of campaign finance laws.



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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer

2000-06-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

Thank you Nakano.  As if we did not have enough to worry about.
Recently Clinton is now going to share our defense missile systems, etc.
with our "allies" if you call any ofo these allies, friends.  One known
fact according to one item on the web, our entire defense system is
hooked up with weather modification program and radar system, and
presumably this means this think called HAARP.

Some time ago there was a lot of controversy with regard to the US
Patent Office; there were those who said secret information of a
critical nature was being divulged to friends and foe alike.

There was one story with regard to John F. Kennedy not providing a
flight plan the night he crashed into the ocean.   Flighs off schedule
and the Alaska crash, everything from the Egyptian flight, this might
have begun years ago in New Mexica area, etc.   For it seems airplanes
would suddenly lose power, for instance the crash of this Mike Todd, one
of Elizabeth Taylor's husbands, at that time there were many reports of
something draining the energy, and motors of automobiles suddenly cut
off.   Something seemingly consuming all energy.

If it is true that this Neutron Bomb which Clinton arranged for Chinese
to build is useless as we have a defense system which would send any
hostile missiles back to point of origin, it would be ironic if Clinton
did not have the last laugh.

All these "allies" who are supposed to be friends, have stolen much
information but it would seem to be, many traps were laid to permit
stealing of same.

It would seem to me that the best defense, is a good defense.  Show me
in our US Constitution any word that gives the USA the right to commit
any action unless it is strictly defensive.

So in this day and age, the wonders of HAARP, which is logically a
defensive system built to protect American from nuclear attack, it would
bee to me the best way to put the neutron bomb out of business is to
share it with all "allies", that is if you call some of these countries
allies.

This O Zone propaganda was put out in the 70 period in the Archie Bunker
Show, for after all, we were told then that using a spray can in our
bathroom, was depleting the O Zone.  What lies.  The only thing use of
some of these aerosol cans caused, was cancer - and our government has
yet, to admit that.

So O Zone?  Ronald Reagan warned people to start wearing sun glasses,
and the $100 sunglasses became popular among the kids.  Nancy Reagan
even began to carry a little umbrella which did not quite make the
fashion pages, for fashion had been taken over by men who liked to dress
women up as little men with the new sick look.

So we have a defense system that is so secret that the American people
do not know about it, only what they might read in science fiction
magazines - this system is so secret, we are going to give it to our
"allies".   Of course, China and Russia have already stolen this by now,
for you see we have more enemy within, than from without.

Somebody is trying to terrify the American people.  The question is,
why?

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Re: [CTRL] AP: Report Says Finance Probe Caused Serious FBI-Justice Tensions

2000-06-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well Mr. Spitzer - the FBI is purely an investigative group.   FBI used
to be lawyers and/or accountants/CRA's.   The idea was for the
government to have two forms of expertise.

Look at Ken Starr.   How much was down the drain here, $70 million
dollars or so to investigate an affair between the President and an
intern, when the FBI no doubt already had this information as did
numerous publishing houses, tapes and all?

So who was caught in the trap.   The one setting same?  We only know
that millions of dollars spent to an independent counsel and his
cronies, need not have been wasted in such a manner.

Why do you think the FBI hires lawyers?   To save the taxpayers money by
hiring competent agents who are supposed to come loaded with the law,
and not a gun.  Why do you think they are called FBI.bureau of
investigation?  For they collect the evidence for the Justice Department
and the FBI is supposed to be impartial.   Politicians hate the FBI
because they know with whom and what they are dealing, but like High
Priests and True Blue Masons, anything told to an Agent of the FBI once
was kept in confidence.

The news media has paid informers in every high office, but it would
seem to be that the news media has more to hide these days, than some of
these politicians.

The FBI is welll qualified to do the work of any of these Ken Starrs,
who know from whence their money is coming.   Think they will kill the
big goose laying all the golden eggs?

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[CTRL] PENNSYLVANIA MAKES SPREADING COMPUTER VIRUSES CRIMINAL

2000-06-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

PENNSYLVANIA MAKES SPREADING COMPUTER VIRUSES CRIMINAL

People who intentionally spread a computer virus face a
seven-year prison sentence and a $15,000 fine in Pennsylvania
after Governor Tom Ridge signed a new bill into law May 26. The
bill also requires that restitution be paid for any damages
caused.


http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/computing/06/01/virus.crack.down.idg/index.html





ARGENTINA TO FINANCE 1 MILLION HOME PCS

The Argentine Government is planning to provide financing for 1
million entry level, brand-name computers for home users. The
plan is aimed at lower middle class and working class households.
Basically, it will allow any federal, provincial or town council
employee to buy a computer costing between $800 and $1,000 in
installments from $28 monthly.


http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/computing/06/02/argentina.pcs.idg/index.html



FBI, DOJ ISSUE LIST OF WORST NET THREATS

The FBI, the Department of Justice and the System Administration,
Networking and Security Institute are jointly releasing a list
detailing the 10 most critical Internet security threats and how
to eliminate them.

http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/computing/06/02/net.threats.idg/index.html



NORTH ATLANTIC WILD SALMON FACE EXTINCTION, WWF SAYS

Wild salmon may be headed for extinction in the North Atlantic
because of over-fishing and competition in their breeding rivers
from flabbier cousins escaping from fish farms, the World Wide
Fund for Nature (WWF) said Wednesday.

http://CNN.com/2000/NATURE/06/02/environment.salmon.reut/index.html


More Sci-Tech stories at http://CNN.com/TECH

Copyright 2000 Cable News Network Inc.


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[CTRL] Executive Orders

2000-06-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[You can send e-mail to your Congressman and Senators from this
website.  --MS]

From:

http://www.executiveorders.org/

End presidential tyranny.
Halt congressional dereliction.
Stop judicial passiveness.




Legislation in the U.S. Senate - Now with 6 Cosponsors




On October 26, 1999, Senator Mike Crapo (Idaho) introduced S.
1795 - The Executive Orders Limitation Act to preserve the
constitutional separation of powers by safeguarding Congress'
legislative power and to provide for more open and public
knowledge about executive orders.

S. 1795 - The Executive Orders Limitation Act will:

Prohibit all executive orders not expressly authorized by statute
or the U.S. Constitution.

Require the president to cite the exact constitutional or
statutory authority when issuing an executive order. Require a
cost-benefit analysis and a public comment period before an
executive order can take effect. Provide for expedited judicial
review of questionable executive orders. Senator Crapo's Press
Release

Senator Crapo's Floor Statement

Text of S. 1795 - The Executive Orders Limitation Act


Write Your U.S. Senators Urging Them to Co-sponsor S. 1795




Legislation in the U.S. House - Now with 40 Cosponsors




Legislation to restore the separation of powers of our national
government, thereby helping to restore our liberty, was
introduced on July 30, 1999 by Representative Ron Paul (Texas)
and Representative Jack Metcalf (Washington).

H.R. 2655 - The Separation of Powers Restoration Act will:

Prohibit a presidential executive order from having the effect of
law. Suspend all states of national emergencies declared since
1976 (the last time Congress canceled such declarations).

Grant legal standing to individual members of the United States
Congress, state officials and private citizens who believe a
presidential executive order is unconstitutional.

Repeal the 1973 War Powers Resolution. On October 28, 1999, the
U.S. House Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Commercial
and Administrative Law held a hearing on H.R. 2655 - The
Separation of Powers Restoration Act. Representative Ron Paul and
Representative Jack Metcalf testified before the committee. To
read Representative Paul's statement, please click here. To read
Representative Metcalf's statement, please click here.

Is your U.S. representative a co-sponsor of H.R. 2655?




Background Information





During the recent presidential scandals, concluding with the
impeachment of President Clinton, many people were heard to say
that the investigations should end so that the president could
get back to "the business of running the country." Under a
constitution dedicated to individual liberty and limited
government - which divides, separates, and limits power - how did
we get to a point where so many Americans think of government as
embodied in the president and then liken him to a man running a
business?

The answer rests in part with the growth of presidential rule
through executive orders and national emergencies. Unfortunately,
the Constitution defines presidential powers very generally; and
nowhere does it define, much less limit, the power of a president
to rule by executive order - except by reference to that general
language and the larger structure and function of the
Constitution. The issue is especially acute when presidents use
executive orders to legislate, for then they usurp the powers of
Congress or the states, raising fundamental concerns about the
separation and division of powers.

The problem of presidential usurpation of legislative power has
been with us from the beginning, but it has grown exponentially
with the expansion of government in the 20th century. In enacting
program after program, Congress has delegated more and more power
to the executive branch. Thus, Congress has not only failed to
check but has actually abetted the expansion of presidential
power. And the courts have been all but absent in restraining
presidential lawmaking.

Nevertheless, the courts have acted in two cases - in 1952 and
1996 - laying down the principles of the matter; the nation's
governors have just forced President Clinton to rewrite a
federalism executive order; and now there are two proposals in
Congress that seek to limit presidential lawmaking. Those
developments offer hope that constitutional limits - and the
separation and division of powers, in particular - may eventually
be restored.

William J. Olson and Alan Woll

Executive Orders and National Emergencies How Presidents Have
Come to "Run the Country" by Usurping Legislative Power

CATO Institute, Policy Analysis, No. 358, Oct. 28, 1999 To read
Mr. Olson and Mr. Woll's 29-page policy analysis, please click
here.



The power of the national government has increased substantially
over us during the last several decades. American presidents of
both political parties; Congress regardless of its majority
party; and the courts have failed to honor the American

[CTRL] Alert/One-Man Gun Control

2000-06-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

June 2, 2000

***Clinton To Register Guns By Executive Order***

National registration of all firearms as well as national
registration (often called licensing) of owners of firearms
will begin no later than January 20, 2001.  It's not going to
happen because of a law Congress will pass, but because
of an executive order President Clinton will soon issue - the
action of one man.  He will most likely issue the executive
order just after the upcoming presidential election regardless
of who wins.

If you think my prediction is far-fetched, think again.
President Clinton and his supporters desperately want all
firearms and all owners of firearms in the U.S. to be
registered with the federal government.  They desperately
need national registration because, as we all know, what
they truly want is national confiscation of firearms.  National
confiscation of firearms happened in Mao's China, Stalin's
and Gorbachev's Soviet Union, Hitler's Germany, Pol Pot's
Cambodia, and Castro's Cuba.  Is Clinton's America next?

President Clinton and his supporters will continue to actively
push Congress for so-called "reasonable, common sense"
gun-control legislation. However, when President Clinton and his
supporters don't get what they want from Congress in the proper
constitutional legislative process, he will spit on the
Constitution by issuing an executive order to get what they want
anyway.  He's done it before and he'll do it again.

Don't take my word for it.  Take the Clinton administration's
word for it.  Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt said, "We've
switched the rules of the game. We're not trying to do anything
legislatively." [The Washington Times, June 14, 1999]  Since
President Clinton has grabbed millions of acres of  land in the
Midwest and West by issuing executive orders, why would he
hesitate to issue an executive order to grab millions of guns?

Secretary Babbitt warned us in June of 1999.  John Podesta,
President Clinton's chief of staff,  also warned us in November
of 1999.  "White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, frustrated
with the balky Republican Congress, thinks it's time for
President Clinton to show who's boss. How? Clinton plans a
series of executive orders and changes to federal rules that he
can sign in to law without first getting the OK from GOP
naysayers. Since it's Podesta's idea, aides have dubbed it
'Project Podesta.'  The namesake told our Kenneth T. Walsh:
'There's a pretty wide sweep of things we're looking to do, and
we're going to be very aggressive in pursuing it.'" [Paul Bedard,
U.S. News Online, November 1, 1999]

Paul Begala, as a senior adviser to President Clinton in 1998, gave
us a big hint when he said, "Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land.
Kinda cool." [The New York Times, July 5, 1998]

No, it's NOT cool

Legislation that will stop President Clinton in his tracks and
prevent future presidents from acting like kings is now pending in
the U.S. House and U.S.Senate.

Write your congressional delegation today, or get ready to hand
over your firearms tomorrow.

Click on http://www.executiveorders.org for an easy way to write
your congressional delegation and for extensive background
information about executive orders.

Kent Snyder
Liberty Study Committee
http://www.libertystudy.org

PS.  Please ask family and friends to help.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: [Fwd: POWERFUL New Boycott Techniques]]

2000-06-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Boycott = Masses of Bad Customers

A new boycott pressure tactic takes 1/3 fewer participants and is 3
times faster in achieving the political demand.  This new boycott
pressure tactic is:  being a bad customer.  Masses of bad customers.

Profit = Revenue - Costs.

A bad customer boycott focuses on raising costs to deny a business a
profit.  A bad customer caters to a business while raising cost so high
that the business loses money.

A bad customer consumes time and waste money without making a profit for
a group.

A regular boycott denies profit to an organization limited to what you
normally spend.  If you normally spend $200 annually on a boycotted
group, they will lose just $200.  A bad customer boycott can create
limitless losses until a group meets the demands.

Here are some bad habits of masses of bad customers.

BUY/RETURN on a weekly basis.  Return an item at another store across
the city.  Too shy?  Have a friend return it!

BUY OUT ITEMS ON SALE / RETURN THEM AFTER THE SALE.  This bad habit
takes the products off the shelf so that other customers can not buy
them on sale.  This bad habit is really annoying during Christmas.
Masses of bad customers buy out a store in mid-December.  All the items
are returned after Chrismas.  Buy everything in a store on Friday
afternoon and return them on Monday?

COMPELLED DISCONTINUATION - Masses of bad customers buy/return a
particular product for a long time.  The store owner loses money, and he
or she discontinue selling the product at all.  If the boycott target is
a service like a vacation, make the customer rep do the sales pitch a
thousand times without a sale.  Then the service will be discontinued.

FLOOD OF SHOPPERS JUST BROWSING WHO REQUEST CUSTOMER SERVICE AND
INFORMATION - Masses of bad customers just browsing consume all the time
and waste the money of employees by asking for customer service and
common questions like:  What's your return policy?  What are your store
hours?  Please give me directions to the store.  Can you show me how
this product works?  If the group puts up signs answering the questions,
ignore the signs and ask anyway.  Don't you just hate to shop in a
crowded store?  Asking for detailed information is especially good while
calling on a toll-free 800 number (you don't pay, but they do!)

HIGH EMPLOYEE TURNOVER - While bad customers make the employees
miserable these workers suddenly encounter better-paying job
opportunities by chance.  It is in human nature to take a better-paying
job if your current job is lousy.  Of course, people make an effort to
find these employees better-paying job opportunities.

HIGH COST OF HIRING AND TRAINING NEW EMPLOYEES - Masses of bad customers
can also apply for a job just to consume time and waste money.  Imagine
how much money it takes to review 500 applications for every job
opening!  Who knows, you may be such a good applicant that the manager
showers all the attention on you while mistreating an applicant who
would have gotten the job if you had never applied.  If you get the job
and have the time, take the job!  Do the expensive training and quit!

MOVE MERCHANDISE AROUND - Fill a cart full of merchandise.  Leave it in
the aisle for an employee to waste 1-2 hours putting all the merchandise
back.  Imagine masses of bad customers doing this 50-100 times a night.
Maybe you could also go through the check out line, wait until every
item is bagged and then realize that you forgot your checkbook!  Darn!
I hate it when that happens!

RUIN THE INTENDED ATMOSPHERE - A place of business tries to create a
particular social atmosphere.  Bad customers ruin the intended
atmosphere.  They converse in a foreign language.  They dress in
inappropriate clothing (wearing too little, too much or geeky clothes).
They could be senior citizens always shopping at a store targetted at
young people.  They tell raunchy stories (an overheard conversation -
"My spouse and I and the neighbor were taking a shower together last
night ...")  They bad mouth the store loudly.

FORMING LONG LINES - Masses of bad customers form long lines during rush
hour (like lunch or after work).  Busy customers will walk out of the
store to patronize another establishment.  These bad customers may buy
very little.  They may just ask a common question like:  Can you give me
directions or what are your store hours?  They may just buy a cheap cup
of coffee with a friend and occupy a table for 1-2 hours.  They may try
on 5-10 clothes without buying anything.  Pay with 

[CTRL] TWENTY MOST DISGUSTING CAREERS IN THE UNIVERSE

2000-06-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

TWENTY MOST DISGUSTING CAREERS IN THE UNIVERSE

1-Tobacco Corporation Lawyers.
2-Lawyer Politicians.
3-Lawyer Lobbyists.
4-Tax Lawyers.
5-Actors who aren't lawyers, but play one on TV.
6-Tobacco Corporation Advertisers.
7-Lawyers who advertise.
8-Advertisers for lawyers.
9-Divorce Lawyers.
10-   Nazi doctors that experimented on Jewish and Gypsy children
  without anesthesia, who fathered Lawyers.
11-   Serial murderers.
12-   Lawyers who defend serial murderers.
13-   Lawyers who are serial murderers.
14-   Lawyers who defend serial murdering lawyers.
15-   Organic farmers who supply Johnny Cochran with healthfull food.
16-   Pimps.
17-   Pimps who get a law degree in prison.
18-   Child pornographers.
19-   Kiddy Porn directors.
20-   Porn directors who dress up children to look like lawyers.


J2

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[CTRL] Anti-trust, Anti-truth

2000-06-03 Thread M.A. Johnson

~~for educational purposes only~~

Anti-trust, Anti-truth
By Thomas J. DiLorenzo

Joel Klein, the third-rate lawyer/political hack
who is in charge of the government's Microsoft
persecution, recently tried to rationalize the
lawsuit by saying that it was in keeping with the
long history of consumer protection regulation,
beginning with the Sherman Antitrust Act of
1890. In reality, the history of antitrust has
been a history of politically-inspired witch hunts
launched against America's most innovative and
entrepreneurial businesses.

In the June 1985 issue of the International
Review of Law and Economics I showed that the
industries accused of "monopolization" by Senator
Sherman and his colleagues in 1890 were expanding
production four times more rapidly than the
economy as a whole for the decade prior to the
Sherman Act (some as much as ten times faster)
and were dropping their prices even faster
than the general price level was falling during
that deflationary period.

The trusts "have made products cheaper, have
reduced prices," admitted Congressman William
Mason, who nevertheless was in favor of an
anti-trust law. He was in favor of the law
because he, and most of his congressional
colleagues, wanted to protect less-efficient
businesses in their districts from competition.
Antitrust has always been a protectionist racket.

Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson, the grossly
biased judge in the Microsoft case, has
frequently compared Bill Gates to John D.
Rockefeller, thereby perpetuating another
statist myth -- that Rockefeller's Standard
Oil Company was a "monopoly." But Standard
Oil caused the price of refined petroleum to
fall from over 30 cents per gallon in 1869 to
5.9 cents by 1897 while stimulating an
enormous amount of innovation in the industry,
just as Microsoft has stimulated innovation
in today's computer industry. For this great
service to consumers, Rockefeller was
prosecuted and forced to break up his company.

In his masterpiece, Antitrust and Monopoly:
Anatomy of a Policy Failure, Dominick Armentano
carefully examined fifty-five of the most famous
antitrust cases in U.S. history and concluded
that in every single case, the accused firms
were dropping prices, expanding production,
innovating, and generally benefiting consumers.
It was their less-efficient competitors who
were "harmed," as they should have been.

For example, the American Tobacco Company was
found guilty of "monopolization" in 1911, even
though the price of cigarettes (per thousand)
had declined from $2.77 in 1895 to $2.20 in
1907, despite a 40 percent increase in raw
material costs.

In what is perhaps the best example of nonsensical
double-talk in antitrust history, in 1944 Judge
Learned Hand found Alcoa guilty of "monopolizing"
the virgin ingot aluminum market by employing
"superior skill and foresight" which the judge
feared had "forestalled" competition by those
businesses with less skill and foresight. He
condemned Alcoa for being extremely adept at
correctly anticipating market demand for its
product and then supplying that demand, to the
"exclusion" of its less efficient competitors.

Alcoa "embraced every new opportunity" with a
"great" organization, said the judge, and manned
the organization with "elite business personnel."
It was obvious to the confused and befuddled
Judge Hand that gaining market share through
entrepreneurial excellence should be illegal.

In 1962 the government forbade the Brown Shoe
Company, which had 1 percent of the shoe market,
from acquiring Kinney Shoes, which also had a 1
percent market share. A company with 2 percent
of the shoe market, according to the government,
constituted a monopoly.

In 1969 IBM, the Microsoft of the day, had a
65 percent market share in the computer market
and was sued by the government for allegedly
monopolizing the industry. IBM was mired in a
court battle for thirteen years before the
government finally gave up on the case.
In the meantime, the company was eclipsed by
Intel and other competitors while Microsoft had
just produced, in 1981, its first copy of MS-DOS.

The government's assault on IBM undoubtedly
weakened the company and weakened the level of
competition in the industry as well. This has
happened time and again as a result of Quixotic
antitrust prosecutions.

In 1962 the government forced the Schwinn
Bicycle Company to divorce itself from its
network of dealers; foreign competition
eventually drove Schwinn into bankruptcy.

General Motors was never prosecuted, but because
of the company's fear of antitrust it was official
company policy from 1937 until 1956 to never let
its market share top 45 percent, for any reason.
This fear of antitrust prosecution contributed
to the industry's dramatic losses in market share
to the Japanese and German automakers during the
1970s and '80s.

RCA was prohibited by antitrust regulators
from charging royalties to American licensees,
so the company licensed its products to Japanese
companies. The entire Japanese 

Re: [CTRL] The (Ottoman) Empire Strikes Back

2000-06-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Thanks A,

This is an excellent article. Turkey is the linchpin state for three regions.
The Balkans, Central Asia, and the Mid East. It's no accident that Turkey and
Israel, an unlikely pair, have come
together as strong allies under the auspices of US foreign policy. If you look
at a map, you can see why this suits the US. Between them, Turkey and Israel,
but mostly Turkey, control the waters of Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Lebanon.
This control, through its client states, gives the US a strangle hold on two
of the world's most important oil producing regions. Capitalism burns oil.

Having treaties with Turkey in the north, prevents a Pan Arab war against Israel
because the Arab states north of Israel would have to fight on two fronts.
Turkey in the north, and Israel in the south. This plays into the NWO's plans
for the Mid East by apparently guaranteeing a no war situation. But this is a
typical example of NWO/CFR wishful thinking. It might be true that there won't
be an outright war as long as the status remains qou, but it is highly
unlikely to remain so.

NWO policies are only functionable as long as approved elites remain in control.
Turkey's elites are trying to make Turkey a modern European state. It simply is
not. Islam is the religion of the people, not Christianity or Judaism. If push
came to shove, the Turks would not be likely to support a Jewish State at war
with their coreligionists. And, they have been at war with Christianity for over
a thousand years.

When things go bad for people, they fall back on their preferred superstition
for relief. The Turkish people are not doing so great economically that they
can bear the brunt of international capitalism for long. It is only a matter of
time before they overthrow their secular elites and reestablish some form of
Islamic theocracy. The same goes for Saudi and even more so for Egypt.

It is only US taxpayer money, in the form of military aid to Egypt and Turkey
which is keeping things under control. This is not a problem at the moment
( except for America's poor and working class ), but what will happen when the
US economy hits the down cycle, and we'll be less able to afford world empire?

The New World Order is based on wishful thinking and a fierce stupidity based
on opportunism. The more they succeed in implementing now, the worse it will be
when it falls apart.

The United States and Europe are setting up the conditions for the first world
war of the twenty first century. If history is any indicator of what will be,
we ordinary folks will pay dearly. The world wars get ever more destructive
with technological development, and it is almost certain that the next one will
go nuclear.

Have a nice day.

Joshua2
===
Alamaine wrote:

 From
 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/NewsST050400.htm

 }}Begin
 IS TURKEY THE NEXT IRAN?

 America should prepare for the eruption of another Islamic volcano
 by Srdja Trifkovic

 A century ago the Ottoman Empire was moribund, the Sick Man on the Bosphorus
 whose hold on the far-flung provinces in the Balkans, North Africa and the
 Middle East was growing more tenuous by the day. Its precarious survival in the
 century following the defeat of Napoleon was due entirely to the inability of
 the Christian powers of Europe to agree on what to do with the spoils, and the
 intractable “Eastern Question” remained on the European diplomatic agenda until
 the Great War.

 Today’s Turkey is back as a major player in its own right, a regional power par
 excellence and the pillar of the U.S. strategy in Eastern Mediterranean, the
 Middle East, and Central Asia. Its population will exceed that of Russia thirty
 years from now if today’s demographic trends continue. Its influence is on the
 rise in its old holdings in the Balkans as well as throughout the former Soviet
 Central Asia. Turkey is aggressively pursuing its European Union candidacy,
 while resisting even feeble Western demands to make concessions on Cyprus -
 invaded in 1974 and partly occupied by 35,000 Turkish soldiers ever since - or
 to end its brutal war against the Kurds in the eastern part of the country. In
 Cyprus, Turkey has flooded the occupied northern part of the island with
 settlers from the mainland, whose numbers (about 100,000) exceed the number of
 native Turkish Cypriots.

 The U.S. policy in the region has been consistently Turkophile for decades. The
 war in Kurdistan has been going on for almost three decades, and has claimed
 some thirty thousand mostly civilian lives, but Turkey’s status as a bona fide
 member of NATO was never in doubt. The implicit assumption in Washington is
 that Turkey will remain “secular” and “pro-Western,” and it behooves us to
 examine the validity of those assumptions. In 1979 the entire U.S. strategy in
 the Middle East was thrown into disarray with the fall of the Shah, an event to
 which President Carter’s administration made a considerable contribution with
 its heavy-handed attempt to appease the 

[CTRL] John Birch Society represents the most diabolical form of the Illuminati conspiracy:

2000-06-03 Thread lloyd

..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  [CTRL] John Birch Society represents the most diabolical form of 
the Illuminati conspiracy:
Date: Monday, May 29, 2000 3:31 PM

jbshttp://watch.pair.com/jbs-cnp.html

The John Birch Society


With the onset of the McCarthy era 50 years ago, any perceived threat to
U.S. sovereignty from the British Round Table and its American branch
shifted to an obsession with the Soviet Union. Roy Cohn, who was legal
counsel to Sen. Joseph McCarthy during the anti-Communist Senate
investigations of the 1950s, would later become a member of the John Birch
Society and a principle figure in the JBS intelligence gathering operation,
the Western Goals Foundation. Out of the latter emerged the core group
which, in 1981, formed the present Council for National Policy -- a
consortium of high level political, corporate and evangelical leaders which
is the primary coordinating body and funding conduit for Christian Right
projects.
Sara Diamond's book, Roads to Dominion: Right-Wing Movements and Political
Power in the United States, notes:"Before and after the formation of the
John Birch Society, corporations played a major role in rallying the public
to the anticommunist cause." 1. In 1947, the Taft-Hartley Act granted
corporations the right to distribute literature to counter labor union
organizing -- a movement they blamed on the communists. To reduce the cost
of producing and distributing anti-Communist materials, corporations turned
to non-profit organizations such as the JBS.
By 1963, corporations were spending an estimated $25 million per year on
anticommunist literature... Some corporations circulated print and
audio-visual materials produced by the John Birch Society; other
corporations produced their own in-house literature...By the early 1960s,
the Nation magazine reported that there was a minimum of 6,600
corporate-financed anticommunist broadcasts, carried by more than 1,300
radio and television stations at a total annual budget of about $20
million...Leading sponsors included Texas oil billionaire H.L. Hunt and
Howard J. Pew of Sun Oil. The corporate sector's massive anticommunist
propaganda campaigns created a favorable climate for the mobilization of
activist groups like the John Birch Society. 2.
On the other hand, or rather the other side of the dialectic,
super-capitalists such as John D. Rockefeller would come to understand the
potential of using labor unions to corporate advantage -- as a means of
controlling the opposition.
The Rockefeller interests have not overlooked and have made good use of the
monopoly of labor that is afforded to unions, to effect monopolies of
industry that would be recognized as illegal if they had been effected by a
monopoly of machinery. Labor unions have proved to be a powerful weapon for
the Rockefeller Empire in extending its world conquest; and subsidized
unioneers are always in the forefront of the emissaries that they send out
into newly conquered territories. With Marxism as a shibboleth, they are
rapidly accomplishing a world-wide subjugation of the "peasantry". This has
earned for wily John D. Jr. a reputation for "liberalism". It is more
appropriately called "Rockefellerism". 3.
In the long march toward a new social order, ultra-right and left-wing
agitation propaganda serve not only to polarize and destabilize society,
they create a diversionary conflict to prevent recognition of the true
conspiracy. Lest an informed and united citizenry form an alliance against
them, principles of conflict management are employed by the power elites:
The plan, I think, is the old one of world dominion in a new form. The
money-power and revolutionary power have been set up and given sham but
symbolic shapes ("Capitalism" or "Communism") and sharply defined citadels
("America" or "Russia"). Such is the spectacle publicly staged for the
masses. But what if similar men, with a common aim, secretly rule in both
camps and propose to achieve their ambition through the clash between those
masses? I believe any diligent student of our times will discover that this
is the case. -- Douglas Reed 4.
In his essay on the unseen hand behind This Age of Conflict, Ivor Benson
reveals the natural partnership that exists between ostensibly opposing
forces -- for example, the fascist Rhodes-Milner Round Table and Fabian
socialists -- to secure a common objective, namely, the subjugation of
mankind:
Significantly Julius Wernher, of the Wernher-Beit conglomerate that
supported Milner's effort to precipitate the Anglo-Boer War, contributed
substantially to the funding of the London School of Economics and socialist
movements everywhere, all vehemently "anti-capitalists", continued to
receive massive support from the most powerful "capitalists."
It was because of the absence of any 

[CTRL] FEAR

2000-06-03 Thread Kris Millegan

from:
http://www.fear.org/menuidx2.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.fear.org/menuidx2.html"Index Frame/A
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What's new at FEAR

Last update May 3, 2000
President Clinton signed the Civil Asset Forfeiture Act of 2000 into law
!!
On April 25, President Clinton signed the Hyde bill into law.  By its terms,
the procedural reforms take effect 120 days after enactment.  By our count,
that means they take effect August 23.  (The only provisions that take effect
earlier are the reinstitution of the fugitive disentitlement doctrine -- a
judicially created mechanism by which courts refused to let claimants defend
their forfeiture cases if they were fugitives from justices in a pending
criminal case.  The Supreme Court declared the fugitive disentitlement
doctrine unauthorized by statute in the 1996 case Degen v. United States, 517
U.S. 820 (1996).  This statute resurrects that doctrine (in one of the
compromises that Reno insisted on.)
For a little recent history -- the original version of HR 1658 passed
overwhelmingly - 375 to 48 - in the House of Representatives in June, 1999.
The momentum from that surprising landslide in our favor (thanks to the
overwhelming public support from people like you who wrote and called their
Congressmen)  propelled this bill past the outraged, self-interested
lobbyists from the police unions, who almost stalled our reforms out in the
Senate.  The Senate passed a watered down version of HR 1658 on March 27,
2000, and on April 11, Rep. Hyde presented the amended version of HR 1658, to
the House of Representatives where it was adopted as amended.
The compromise bill waters down the original Hyde bill's provisions somewhat,
but it is still a strong positive change.  The best features are: (1) the
cost bond is abolished, (2) there will now be court appointed counsel for
indigents (with exceptions), (3) property can be returned to the property
owner pending trial on a showing of hardship, and (4) there is a strengthened
innocent owner defense that applies across the board to virtually all civil
forfeiture statutes.  Even with the compromise the new law will go a long way
to level the playing field for poor and middle class forfeiture victims --
particularly innocent owners -- and will force the U.S. Attorney's Office to
take a look at the merits of the case, instead of having the seizing agency
win most cases by default when the claimant fails to file a claim and cost
bond on time.
Posted here, for your reading pleasure, are the following materials on the
new law.  Watch this website or subscribe to FEAR-List  for news about further
 developments as they happen.  For more history of this legislation and
previous unsuccessful bills from the past few years, see the Federal
Legislation page on this website.

*   The full text of HR 1658, as passed by the House and Senate
*   The Congressional Record from April 11, 2000, including

*  Rep. Henry Hyde's speech (which acknowledges FEAR's efforts)
*  the legislative history of the bill
*  some interesting statistics on the cost of this bill and the number of
forfeitures annually
*  speeches by other Congressmen:

*   Ms. Jackson-Lee of Texas
*   Mr. Barr of Georgia (a co-sponsor of the original Hyde bill)  his
further comments
*   Mr. Sweeney of New York
*   Mr. Conyers of Michigan (a long-time forfeiture reformer and co-sponsor
of the original Hyde bill)  his further omments
*   Mr. Weiner of New York (co-sponsor of the DOJ forfeiture bill)
*   Mr. Udall of Colorado

This is a major victory for FEAR, even though Congress adopted only a small
portion of our reform package, and gave in to DOJ demands which made the law
worse in some areas.   Clearly there is much more work to be done, but this
shows us that we are on the right track, and that we can achieve our goals,
even if we are David to the police lobby's Goliath.
Thanks again all of you who have worked so hard for so many years, believing
in the impossible.  Somehow, we did it!  It may not be all that we wanted in
our reform bill (in fact, it's a far cry from that) but it took years for the
government to get all of these powers and exceptions to the Constitution, and
it will take a similar amount of time and effort on our part to roll things
back to the way they were before 1984.  This is a giant first step!  Let's
keep moving forward!


A new forfeiture victim horror story -- Charlotte Carroll, United States v.
19410 Chandlee Mill Road -- has been added to our victim story collection.
Thank's Gwyn Hoerauf, for writing this story up for our website!  If you have
a compelling forfeiture victim story that is recent or ongoing, and the
victim is willing to talk to the press and legislators, please e-mail
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New to the FEAR Law Library
The Forfeiture Exception: Warrantless seizures (and searches) in the wake 

Re: [CTRL] AP: Report Says Finance Probe Caused SeriousFBI-JusticeTensions

2000-06-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Aleisha Saba wrote:

 Well Mr. Spitzer - the FBI is purely an investigative group.   FBI used
 to be lawyers and/or accountants/CRA's.   The idea was for the
 government to have two forms of expertise.

 Look at Ken Starr.   How much was down the drain here, $70 million
 dollars or so to investigate an affair between the President and an
 intern, when the FBI no doubt already had this information as did
 numerous publishing houses, tapes and all?

 So who was caught in the trap.   The one setting same?  We only know
 that millions of dollars spent to an independent counsel and his
 cronies, need not have been wasted in such a manner.

The money spent was NOT wasted but worth every penny, AND achieved it goal.
The Lewinsky affair benefited the governing elites ( both sides ) by keeping
the China/corporate treason affair out of the public's consciousness. Everyone
got away with it.

Joshua2


 Why do you think the FBI hires lawyers?   To save the taxpayers money by
 hiring competent agents who are supposed to come loaded with the law,
 and not a gun.  Why do you think they are called FBI.bureau of
 investigation?  For they collect the evidence for the Justice Department
 and the FBI is supposed to be impartial.   Politicians hate the FBI
 because they know with whom and what they are dealing, but like High
 Priests and True Blue Masons, anything told to an Agent of the FBI once
 was kept in confidence.

 The news media has paid informers in every high office, but it would
 seem to be that the news media has more to hide these days, than some of
 these politicians.

 The FBI is welll qualified to do the work of any of these Ken Starrs,
 who know from whence their money is coming.   Think they will kill the
 big goose laying all the golden eggs?

 A. Saba
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Re: [CTRL] The (Ottoman) Empire Strikes Back

2000-06-03 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

If push

came to shove, the Turks would not be likely to support a Jewish State at
war
with their coreligionists. And, they have been at war with Christianity
for over

a thousand years.

Like I was saying about the long standing split between Arab Iraq and
Persian Iran, Islam is no more united than is Christendom. When the
occasion arises, Muslims slaughter with glee, just like Christians do.
Turks aren't Arabs either. Nor are they stupid. They know which side the
bread is buttered on.

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[CTRL] SNET: Our Nation - An Epitaph To Accompany The Memorial (fwd)

2000-06-03 Thread William Bacon

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EPITAPH TO ACCOMPANY THE MEMORIAL

Dearly beloved, we are gathered here at graveside to bid farewell to a
grand friend and a previously glorious nation, a friend and country that
was strong and steadfast in its stance against tyrany, oppression and
wrong. A country that for centuries threw open its portals to the tired and
oppressed of other lands and by doing so, strengthened itself from within;
selecting strong-willed people longing to be free and willing to produce
more than they consumed as they worked for freedom and realized, one-
by-one, each in their own way, the "American Dream". As each part of this
great country grew stronger, the country as a whole grew strong, almost
invincible. A shining light to the world.

But alas, while still a young nation, still with a lot of good life ahead, our
friend was attached from within by the "disease", a malady now
recognized as terminal. This disease could be recognized by many
manifestations - selfishness, greed, apathy, laziness, blatant lack of
patriotism, and in later stages, an almost complete departure from all
morals. It's internal defense mechanisms, designed into this marvelous
country by the patriotic architechs at its inception, its very own people,
decendants, most, of these first loyal patriots, failed to rush to the signs
and symptoms of this fatal disease. It is said by those who know that this
"Constitutional defense mechanism" had been slowly destroyed by the
precursors of the now fatal disease, a disease of incideous onset but with
very noticable symptoms. The "Constitutional defense mechanism" that
was to keep this body strong and healthy and nourished was first
weakened by constantly deceiving the mechanism into the delusion that it
had no reason for existance within the body, that the body could remain
healthy and vital while hosting the disease. And all the while the disease
would create false diseases for the protection system to further weaken
itself upon. There were those "anti-bodies" that were ever vigilant, not
fooled by either the precursors to the disease or by the disease itself but
they were few, too few, in number and were tremendously impeded in the
last, terminal days of the disease by the rest of the defense mechanism
that had, for years, been kept ignorant, made lethargic and in some cases
actually aided the disease in its spread.

It is sad to realize that our friend could have been saved, even in the last
days, by an old, miracle remedy put in place many centuries previous..
but alas, most of the parts that made the whole of our friend had turned
from the only salvation capable of saving its dying existence, the Creator!

Good bye, America, old friend, you will be missed.  Rest In Peace.
 Who among you would like to throw in the first dirt?

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Re: [CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3

2000-06-03 Thread nessie

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It was shocking, yes, but also not entirely believable.



The late Jim Keith concurred. See: Mind Control, World Control by Jim
Keith, ISBN 0-932813-45-3, pps. 293-299

I've never looked either Mark or Cathy in the eye, so I'm loath to even
guess. But I'm pretty skeptical, not so much of the concept but of them.
Where's the forensic evidence? Now that Monica Lewinsky has taught the
entire world how to collect a DNA sample, we can finally begin to hope
that some future Monarch victim (if indeed there are such people) will
have the presence of mind to swab the gob, so to speak, and put this
matter to rest, once and for all.

Which reminds me. Please send me any clear, distinct photos any of you
might have of any high muck-a-mucks, politicos or otherwise, dressed in
lingerie, in bed with a couple of twelve year olds, smoking crack.
Actually, anything along those lines will do. You know what I like. I'll
keep your name out of it. Thanks in advance.

nessie
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[CTRL] OEN 6/3/200

2000-06-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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The Fourth Estate


The Whores of the Press


Thank God that Dan Rather keeps his clothes on.

A TELEVISION current affairs show with topless female reporters has become
such a surprise success in Moscow that Russian politicians are queuing up to
be interviewed.
Naked Truth, which began life as a one-off joke, has now become cult viewing.
With a newsreader who undresses to camera, deadpan interviews conducted by
near-naked journalists and a strip-tease artist forecasting the weather, the
show has one running gag: the female breast.
But this has not deterred deputies from the State Duma inviting the show into
their offices to be questioned by reporters clutching oversized microphones
to their cleavage. Alexander Saliyi, a Communist Party deputy, defended his
appearance, saying: "I didn't take my clothes off. I didn't pay any attention
to that object opposite. I just visualised the girl fully dressed." To hear
the interview without seeing the pictures, one would never have guessed her
state of undress.
Sergei Moskvin, who invented the show, said the secret of its success was comb
ining straight treatment of the news with the presenters' semi-nudity. "A
woman undressing and serious news are completely incompatible," said Mr
Moskvin, who is the director of M1, the Moscow TV channel which broadcasts
the show. "Together it is comedy. Viewers stop listening and just watch
open-mouthed."
Intellectuals have argued that Naked Truth is a satire on Russia's
notoriously grasping politicians and journalists. But Svetlana Pesotskaya,
the blond actress who reads the news while playfully taking off her top or
having it removed by a pair of hairy male arms, insists that the programme is
a serious news show.
She said: "It does also aim to shock the audience. The goal is to make us
stand out and force people to take notice." The show, which is broadcast just
before midnight, may not top the ratings but so far one major party leader
has granted an interview to its topless reporters and more are due to appear
soon.
Mr Saliyi, an expert on electoral fraud, justified his appearance by claiming
it was an attempt to breach the taboo on discussing vote-rigging in Russia's
mainstream media. He said: "Lenin once wrote that one should use any means at
one's disposal to further the struggle. If such an approach is good enough
for my leader, it is good enough for me."
Electronic Telegraph, June 3, 2000
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Re: [CTRL] The (Ottoman) Empire Strikes Back

2000-06-03 Thread Bob Stokes

In a message dated 00-06-03 11:37:23 EDT, Nurev writes:

 If push
 came to shove, the Turks would not be likely to support a Jewish State at
 war
 with their coreligionists. 

One little known fact about Turkey ~  When the United States refused to admit
Jews into our country during WWII, the Turks were giving them refuge and did
so throughout WWII.  I know because there were several Jewish families living
in the same apartment building I lived in Izmir.  The Jews are accepted there
by their supposed enemies (Moslems) and they get along quite well.  One lady
had visited Israel, but said she liked Turkey much better and felt safe there.

Regards,
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Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-03 Thread tenebroust

Nicky; No one can say whether someone was abducted by aliens or if the thing was 
induced, especially from a thrid party point examination.  That is the whole point.  
IF the experience CAN be induced, and you admit it can, then this is a logical 
explanation which requires no aliens at all.  On the other hand the idea that "aliens" 
ARE abducting people just as these experiencers say they are that cannot be refuted 
completely, thus it remains a POSSIBILITY.


On Thu, 01 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:


 Sorry June its pointless talking further, eg how do we know you aren't a CIA
 agent? It obvious if you were you may know more for a start on this subject
 instead of turning this into a psychological exercise in belief systems..As
 for you saying I have dogma. All I said is I'm a Christian and nothing else,
 the rest is your 'belief system' you so gladly promote.

 Nicky wrote:
 I guess you want proof of underground Et bases too?

 June wrote:
 Yes.  Anything less is just opinion and belief, a subjective
 interpretation
 of limited data.  ETs are only one of many possibilities, not the only one.


 Now for the next hurdle -

 Nessie do you think some theorists like M Persinger have any more value than
 those who have personally experienced Ets? Why trust anybody who is sitting
 reading books on this subject and comparing an abductee experience to an
 induced one. Sure listen to the guy but he knows no more about the 'reality'
 of it than June who hasn't read much at all on this. But we do 'believe'
 from others who have seen throught he deception that the US military are
 faking alien abductions so they can abduct people. But there are geniune
 abductions because people ahve travelled in spaceships and gone to other
 planets and brought back souvenirs. Alec Newald being one.
 Neither person, theorist or ignorant, can tell without being a personal
 witness at the time if someone's abduction occurred. So if one person who
 hasn't personally been abducted, comments on another's experience then they
 actually know nothing about it.

 Reasons being-
 1 They have read too many books including disinfo so can't decide truth.
 2.They have had drugs and think reality can't be deciphered properly because
 they can't remember what it is like to have a clear mind anymore, so think
 everyone else is as confused.
 3.They have no firm beliefs and can't perceive another's point of view.
 4.They see a scientific explanation for everything and are not able to
 decipher the complexity of other dimensions and a person's direct experience
 of them.
 5. They are unable to see beyond themselves to be objective about Earth and
 its manifold off planet guided expressions of evolution to perfection.

 Nicky


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[CTRL] SIGHTINGS-Bilderberg 2000 Underway

2000-06-03 Thread William Shannon

Update - Bilderberg 2000
Meeting Now Underway
From wAngel
6-2-00


Hi Jeff...

Interestingly enough, Canada's Prime Minister, Jean Cretien, is also over
there - supposedly delivering a paper on the hydribization of socialism and
capitalism - the so-called "third way" - in Berlin. It will be most
interesting to notice whether or not he shows up at the Hotel Chateau du Lac
as well... _

From Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6-2-00

This is to inform you that the controversial and highly influential
Bilderberg Group is meeting right now in secret at the Hotel Chateau du Lac
at Genval, just outside Brussels. Protected from cameras by a canvas awning
constructed around the entrance, the dignitaries arrived in chauffeur-driven
limousines during yesterday afternoon, June 1st.

Nevertheless, we managed to film the arrival of Henry Kissinger, Kenneth
Clarke, Viscount Etienne Davignon, Commissioner Pascal Lamy (still photo
only), Carl Bildt, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, and numerous other
leading political, financial and industrial figures. President Clinton is
rumoured to be arriving from Aachen some time later today.

We understand that a press statement and attendance list will be issued
tomorrow morning by the Bilderberg Group - contact Maja Banck at the Hotel
Chateau du Lac: +32 (0)2 6557111.

When challenged outside the hotel, Chairman of Bilderberg, Davignon made it
clear that there would be no press conference. So far this year, the
Bilderberg has succeeded in keeping its deliberations out of the world's
media. The absence of press at the hotel is striking.


Grattan Healy Mike Peters Tony Gosling contact telephone (answering machine):
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Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread tenebroust

Well, it certainly is good to have Alfred here.  Since he has read and knows about 
every aspect of UFOlogy, I strongly encourage all people who doubt the ET hypothesis 
of UFO origins to just hang up your hats and drop it in the face of his insurmountable 
knowledge on the matter.  I know that I am intimidated by his "I know more than you, 
so you should just shut up" attitude.  If we were smart maybe we should just declare 
him the winner.
ETH. . .ETH. . . ETH (reciting mantra)


On Fri, 02 June 2000, DIG alfred webre wrote:


 In a message dated 00-06-01 23:35:03 EDT, you write:

  I agree with Vallee's conclusions in "Messengers of Deception".
   

 Dear June - Oh I guess I better go a read again the book that I AM IN. You
 are so stuck in yourself, June, you don;t even notice that Jacques Vallee was
 writing about people in this thread in the very book you mention.

 Jacques was at the Institute for the Future when I was a futurist at SRI
 (1977-78).  Jacques and I had many meetings and lunches discussing various
 models. I thoroughly explained the context communication theory of
 extraterrestrial to him, which hold that the UFO phenomena is unitary and
 functions as "peripheral cuing", elevating human consciousness.  The source
 of the phenomenon is extradimensional and extraterrestrial.  As I explained
 it to him (he went on to collarborate with our 1977 Carter White House/ NSF
 study)
 he exclaimed: "Very good. That's very much like my views."  In fact, the
 context communication theory, which you can begin to read in Exopolitics
 (UniverseBooks.com) is actually more advanced that Jacques' views. I swear on
 a stack of virtual Bibles as to the above.

 NOW WILL YOU GET OFF OF YOUR COMBATIVE STANCE, AND REALIZE THAT YOU ARE
 DEALING WITH RESEARCHERS WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND,
 AND FROM WHOM YOU MAY LEARN SOMETHING.  WHY NOT JUST DROP YOUR COUNTER-POINT
 CIRCUS ATTITUDE, JUNE.   ALFRED WEBRE

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Re: [CTRL] SIGHTINGS-Bilderberg 2000 Underway

2000-06-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well while the President is overseas, Canada is wooing Bill Gates to
move to Canada.  They will even build his buildings.

Remember when John F. Kennedy took on US Steel?  Well, he lost.   We all
lost.   Due to Federal, State, City, School, and County Income taxes and
property and personal taxes, big business has gone to greener pastures.

Some also failed.   So goodbye Bill Gates.   What sweet revenge.
Clinton is small time compared to Gates, and never worked a day in his
life.   Looks like Bill Gates is taking off his gloves, but then that is
the only way to deal with a criminal element such as his Reno Justice
Department.

MSNBC and ABC said it was obvious Bill Gates has not kicked back enough
to the corrupt Clinton regime.   Did you ever notice how clean and
wholesome Bill Gates is, a man of genius.   Compared to the squalor in
our White House, this country would do well to find a man like Bill
Gates for president.

Hope Gates gives them all something to think about.   Somehow I have the
feeling though, that this man would never want to hurt his country.
This Dixie Mafia is small time, hoodlems at the bottom of the ladder.

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Re: [CTRL] The Coso artifact

2000-06-03 Thread tenebroust

I have read some stuff about this object.  I think it is more indicative of past 
advanced HUMAN civilization rather than extraterrestrial.  By the same standards I 
judge the ETH in UFO cases I judge this, according to the Occam's razor tenet it 
stands to reason that a human origin is the most likely explanation.
Part of the paradigm for control, IMO, is to suppress the idea of past ADVANCED human 
cultures, and to advance the idea of extraterrestrial influence (but AT THE SAME TIME, 
debunk it because it is ludicrous, which by the way is MY OPINION for what is being 
done with the "alien" origin theory for UFO's, that it is advanced with sly innuendo 
by the governments and intelligence agencies of the world, and with the cryptic 
release of ambiguous information, only to then be LAUGHED at as ridiculous by the very 
people spreading it in the first place) in the development of civilization.
This artifact seems to me (much like the antikathera (sp?) device found in the Aegean 
sea (Mediterranean perhaps?) to be the product of pre-modern technologica advancement 
of HUMAN BEINGS, no aliens required.
That is my opinion though.


On Fri, 02 June 2000, nessie wrote:


 Ironically, of all the people on this list who are participating in the
 discussion about the possibility that UFOs are of ET origin, I am the one
 who has posted what is the closest thing to physical evidence of ET
 visitation. It's not physical evidence but it is a (purported) picture of
 physical evidence. Let's talk about it for a while. What is it? Where did
 it come from? What does it mean?

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Re: [CTRL] Physical evidence of Alien Abduction.

2000-06-03 Thread tenebroust

This is very interesting stuff, but how does one come to the conclusion that there is 
any relationship between the two things, ie; abduction and the presence of "glassy 
particles"?  If all abductees had a book of matches on their night stand would that 
imply a connection between the matches and the abduction?  What about my home?  Do I 
have "glassy spheres" in my dust?  I don't remember being abducted, but then again 
maybe they just made me forget.  I better get my dust checked, and if it has got these 
spheres then I'm running right to a certified regression hypnotist to force my self to 
remember the hideous abduction that I didn't have, BECAUSE if the dust is there I MUST 
HAVE been abducted.  Right?


On Fri, 02 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:


 Physical evidence of Alien Abduction. Photos on url. Thanks Eagle.


 http://www.abduct.com/aaer2/r9.htm

 A significant breakthrough in the search for trace physical evidence of
 alien abductions may have been uncovered in ordinary household dust.
 According to biophysicist Dr. William C. Levengood of Pinelandia Biophysics
 Laboratory of Michigan, microscopic glassy particles have been found in
 household dust of individuals claiming to be abductees.

 Glassy particles have been found in bedrooms, kitchens, family rooms,
 hallways, basement stairs, and so on. Glassy particles have not been found
 in dust where abductions are not known to occur.

 The glassy particles come in a variety of shapes, including hollow or solid
 spheres. The particles are occasionally amber in color and vary in size from
 1 micron or more, which is 1/1,000 of a millimeter or larger.

 Other more elongated particles include a "pseudo crystal" and an octopus
 shape. These forms are often clear and contain definite non-cellular,
 non-plant structure. A visual inspection of the "pseudo crystals" under 450x
 magnification gives the appearance of a fiber optic arrangement, while the
 octopus structure sometimes appears to have exploded outward at its center
 as if releasing something.

 Household dust is best collected from areas not commonly dusted, such as the
 top ledges of doors and window frames. Unexplainable whitish dust in
 recently cleaned rooms of abductees' homes has also tested positive for
 these glassy particles.

 While abductees' homes have produced two or more styles of particles, no
 abductee's home to date has produced all styles of particles. Dr. Levengood
 is continuing his research into uncovering the origin of the currently
 unexplainable glassy particles.

 Comments or questions may be directed to Marilyn Ruben at Alien Abduction
 Experience and Research at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Photographs of the glassy particles:


 Fig. 1 -- Hollow Sphere



 Fig. 2 -- "Pseudo Crystal"



 Fig. 3 -- "Octopus Particle"

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[CTRL] Satan Works For Moon Now!

2000-06-03 Thread Carl Amedio

 It just gets curiouser and curiouser!
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/namibia/538/s-5a.html


Satan Works For Moon Now!

~Right about now, some of you must think I am joking or something. Right?
Well, I'm not! Recently, Moon claimed that Satan has repented of his historic
sins, and even wrote a letter to God and Rev. Moon (This is what Moon
actually claims!) and in the letter Satan said he was sorry for his sins. He
also promised to start working hard for Rev. Moon from now on. Well, sadly
Rev. Moon has not made very much progress in saving the world with only God
on his side, but now that Satan has joined the team, maybe that will change?
Here is a direct quote from Moon where he claims Satan has repented and is
now working for the Moonies:


Excerpted from: SUN MYUNG MOON
LEADERS' MEETING
May 1, 1996 East Garden
Translator Peter Kim
This is the way we can liberate Hell. Hell on the Earth and in the spiritual
world will be liberated. You are presently residing in the physical hell of
your physical body. How can we liberate this physical hell and then the
spiritual hell? Now Grandmother Hong and Heung Jin Nim are working together
to liberate hell in the spiritual world. They mobilized the fallen Archangel
Lucifer. Even Lucifer has repented and confessed and is now being used to
work to liberate all those evil spirits in this physical world as well as the
spiritual world.


Satan had repented Moon said. And so it was only right that Moon forgive
satan and welcome him back into the family of God. Isn't it comforting for
you to know that Satan is actually your friend and co-worker now? In a
transcript of a prayer found on a Unification News Website in Korea, Moon had
a little more to say about Satan, and he said it in a prayer to God:


Excerpted from:
True Parent's Prayer
You gave Satan a chance to indemnify the faults that he committed. He did not
love humanity as God's children but rather stole them from God and turned
them against Him. The time when God could command Satan to correct his wrongs
and clean up the fallen lineage came when God gave him the ultimatum on March
21. Satan apologized to God and claimed he would support Him to create the
ideal garden of love. He confessed all his sins before True Parents to be
forgiven. He confessed and apologized all he had done wrong to humanity.
Please, Heavenly Father, take pity on him as he is asking for forgiveness
from You and True Parents.

As we, True Parents, unify heaven and earth, we bring peace between God and
Satan and establish unity between God, Satan and humanity. We combined that
unity into one single lineage of God.


FULL TEXT HERE

Well, what can you say? Satan is even more than a friend now. In the words
above, Moon has basically called him "family". Are you sure you members
really want to stay in the Unification Church at this point?


You Can Safely Follow Satan!

~Satan and Moon have not just recently met, by the way. Oh no. They have been
in quite a long term relationship. In fact, Moon has had some pretty
fascinating (and bizzare) things to say about Satan over the years. He told
his early followers that they could safely follow Satan. That's right. He
told them that as long as they were sincere in following Satan, that Satan
would not be able to handle their sincerity and he would eventually bring
them to God himself. So, follow Satan, and he will bring you to God. I wonder
what some of Moon's paid Christian Ministers would think about this guidance
from Moon? Probably they wouldn't care, as those participating with Moon, do
so because they share the same God: Money. Here is an excerpt that comes from
a book by one of Moon's earliest followers, Won Pil Kim:


Excerpted from: Won Pil Kim
Father's Course and our Life of Faith
Chapter 3 - Mistakes
I'd like to tell you another story. Already 30 or 40 years before Father went
up to North Korea there were religious groups there which had been prepared
to welcome the Second Advent. Father visited one of them. One day he said to
them: "If you believe Satan's word completely and absolutely to the end as
God's word and if you attend him, even Satan will take you to God." Suppose
you believe, learn and practice Satan's word completely and actually you
attend Satan, Satan won't take you to himself but to God. Do you understand
clearly?

I'll explain it, taking an example. Take one brother -- Mr. Tanahashi. Now
here is another brother who believes in and attends Mr. Tanahashi very much.
But this brother has a misunderstanding that Mr. Tanahashi is John. He has a
firm conviction that he is attending John, even though he is actually
attending Mr. Tanahashi. Then is Mr. Tanahashi happy or not? Satan knows why
people are attending him: they mistake Satan for God and attend him just as
earnestly as they attend God. They listen to Satan's words absolutely. Then
Satan can't make them his own since they believe completely that they are
attending God, not Satan. Therefore Satan thinks they should go to 

[CTRL] Conspiring Toward a Multi-Poley World

2000-06-03 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Barry Schwartz wrote:

 I never said anything about Semites.  I was talking about Jews and
 non-Jews, and I simply put them into separate groups.  I put them
 there.  That made them different.

What!!! If I have a big bag of randomly mixed, multi-coloured marbles and
I arbitrarily divide them into two bags, that makes them different? Great,
great, great grandpa Shlomo Poley would roll over in his grave.
Now maybe if you, Barry, sprinkle one group with "pixie dust" they will
differ. Otherwise

 Incidentally, we don't call it Hebonics, we call it Poleymics.

I hope it is not too "Poleymical" but this is after all, a "Multi-Poley
World" ever since Yeltysn's announcement and I have to say that until
"Jews" stop referring to their enemies with that piece of semantic
pollution, "antisemite", we should refer to them as "semites". Meanwhile,
thanks to Bob Cohen's sleuthing the "Saga of Shlomo Poley" continues on
the net. Bob discovered the Semite Poley branch of the family. Great,
great, great...grandpa Shlomo Poley invented the bagel, founded the
University of Khazaria and wrote the Protocols of the Learned Elder of
Zion. Now there's a semite for you!
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[CTRL] BROADDRICK FIGHTS BACK

2000-06-03 Thread lloyd

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[CTRL] Al Eskan Disease May Have Contributed to Gulf War Syndrome

2000-06-03 Thread Robert F. Tatman

http://respiratorycare.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2000/06/06.01/2601publ0
01.html

Al Eskan Disease May Have Contributed to Gulf War Syndrome



WESTPORT, Jun 01 (Reuters Health) - Gulf War syndrome may in part be the
result of Al Eskan disease, an immune system disorder caused by inhalation
of the fine, dusty sand common in the Arabian Peninsula, according to a
report in the May issue of Military Medicine.

Col. Andras L. Korenyi-Both, a flight surgeon for the 107th Cavalry, Army
National Guard, Havertown, Pennsylvania, and a multicenter team note that Al
Eskan disease, named for Al Eskan village near Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, was
first reported in 1991. It results in the type of multisystem disorders
associated with Gulf War syndrome.

The research team proposes that sand in the Gulf was both a cause of immune
system depletion and a vehicle for low-intensity exposure to chemical
warfare agents. When such agents were released by the destruction of
ammunition stockpiles and by the Iraqi military, they speculate, they were
"microimpregnated" into sand particles, wind-blown throughout the region and
inhaled by troops.

Once in the lungs, the "dirty sand" damaged the alveoli, causing immune
defenses to be compromised. The chemical warfare agents were thus able to
"penetrate the alveolocapillary barrier, entering the bloodstream, to be
disseminated via the lymphatic and blood vessels."

Dr. Korenyi-Both and colleagues report that the military collected sand
samples in the Gulf to be analyzed for the presence of chemical warfare
agents, but the research team has been unable to obtain the results of that
analysis from the US Army.

Mil Med 2000;165:321-336.


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Re: [CTRL] More on Coso artifact

2000-06-03 Thread Robert F. Tatman

Well, this should certainly put a "spark" in the UFO debate!  ;^D

Christopher Hitchens once commented that the problem with creation science
is that although it asks the right questions, it also supplies the answers
up front.  IMHO, creation science...and ufology...invert the logical process
by presenting conclusions as articles of faith which must be accepted before
questions are asked.  Anyone who challenges those conclusions is, ipso
facto, a heretic.  Of course, the same is also true of many of the Darwinian
evolutionists...but that's another thread, I suspect!

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 This just showed up on Sightings:

 http://www.eskimo.com/~pierres/coso/coso.html

 I am not technically qualified to pass definitive judgement, but it sure
 makes sense to me.


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[CTRL] Who's the Evil Empire now? Got a mirror?

2000-06-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Maj. General KOSTAS KONSTANTINIDIS(Ret)
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Dear

I am shocked and outraged that the US has rejected
President Putin's offer to cut the US and Russian
nuclear arsenals to 1,000 - 1,500 warheads in order to
build a "Son of Star Wars" against the so-called "rogue"
states.

Russia's suggestion to negotiate a global ban on
missile technology is much more sensible, would
preserve the ABM Treaty, and would make our world
more secure. Instead, the US has advised the Russians
to keep 2,500 warheads on launch-on-warning
hair-trigger alert, which is a much greater threat to our
world security that any missile North Korea might be
able to build some day. We could easily handle the
North Korean threat by welcoming them into the family
of nations and establishing relations with them.

Please urge President Clinton to cancel any decisions
to violate the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty to build a
"national missile defense". Ask him to take up the
Russian offer to cut to 1,000 warheads, and then invite
the other nuclear weapons states to negotiations for a
ban on nuclear weapons, just as we have banned
chemical and biological weapons.

Sincerely,

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Re: [CTRL] Physical evidence of Alien Abduction.

2000-06-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:

  No evidence of 'Alien Abduction' [sic] at all.
 
  Evidence perhaps of some sort of phenomenon which fuses common silicates
  commonly found in household dust into glassy bulbs.  But it tells us
  nothing about what CAUSED it.

 Maybe what we have here is evidence of alien 'poop'.
 FWP.

Spoken like a true Poley.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] The (Ottoman) Empire Strikes Back

2000-06-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

nessie wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 
 If push

 came to shove, the Turks would not be likely to support a Jewish State at
 war
 with their coreligionists. And, they have been at war with Christianity
 for over

 a thousand years.

 Like I was saying about the long standing split between Arab Iraq and
 Persian Iran, Islam is no more united than is Christendom. When the
 occasion arises, Muslims slaughter with glee, just like Christians do.
 Turks aren't Arabs either. Nor are they stupid. They know which side the
 bread is buttered on.

And which side is that? No one who has too much butter on their hands starts
revolutions. ( Sorry about that one ;] ) As usual its the elites who are doing
well. I don't know if they have a large middle class or not, but there are
plenty of poor who have no where to turn but Allah.

The point is not whether they are Arabs. The point is what the west calls
Islamic fundamentalism. If there is an Islamic revolution and clerics rule,
they will rule by religious law. They will not side with unbelievers against
other Moslems.

It was the Muslim, not Arab world which sent money, arms and men to help their
coreligiopnists in Yugoslavia. Also a Non-Arab country.

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[CTRL] Defense attorneys say man charged in supremacist shootings wrote 'psychotic' note

2000-06-03 Thread Michael Pugliese

sacbee: Cal ReportDefense attorneys say man charged in supremacist shootings
wrote 'psychotic' note
By LINDA DEUTSCH
AP Special Correspondent
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- White supremacist Buford Furrow wrote "a psychotic note"
to himself repeating 129 times that he should kill another prison inmate,
his lawyers disclosed in a legal document filed late Wednesday afternoon.

The attorneys, who are attempting to block the government from seeking the
death penalty for Furrow in the murder of a Filipino postman, discounted the
idea that the note uncovered by jailers was a true threat on the life of the
Latino inmate, Raul Lopez.

"On the note, defendant had written 129 times, 'You must kill Lopez and all
of his protecting angels,"' the lawyers said.

"Apparently, the number 129 was arrived at by ascribing a numerical value,
one through 26, to each letter of the alphabet ... and adding up the values
of the words, 'Lopez' and "Satan,"' the document said.

Furrow is charged with killing letter carrier Joseph Ileto on Aug 10, just
hours after he allegedly wounded three boys, a teen-age girl and a woman at
the North Valley Jewish Community Center in the San Fernando Valley.

The public defenders representing Furrow said it is unclear from government
filings whether the note was ever delivered to anyone.

"If this obviously delusional note, which defendant wrote to himself, is
what the government considers a threat, it should make that clear," the
attorneys said. "But frankly, defendant cannot believe that the notice truly
meant to imply that a psychotic note written to oneself is a threat against
another."

Furrow has pleaded innocent and his team of public defenders has launched an
effort to save him from the death penalty. They have argued that the federal
death penalty statute is unconstitutional and that the factors presented to
justify it in Furrow's case are too vague.

In its latest papers, the defense repeated the theme of vagueness and said
prosecutors have never been specific enough in outlining "aggravating
factors" that might support the death penalty.

They cited a government claim that Furrow once threatened the woman he calls
his wife and her son and said there was no indication of the names of those
threatened or when and where the alleged threat occurred.

The attorneys also took issue with a government claim that Furrow failed to
show remorse for the killing. They said this suggests that Furrow must
violate his right to remain silent under the Fifth Amendment if he is to
show remorse.

This claim, they said, "forces a defendant to choose between testifying to
show remorse, on one hand, and invoking his right to remain silent so as not
to waive his privilege and to maintain his right to appeal, on the other
hand."

As for Furrow's alleged statement after his arrest that, "He is not sorry
for his crimes," the defense said such a statement is inadmissible unless
the government can show "pervading and continuing lack of remorse."

In the last document to be filed before a hearing on the death penalty issue
June 5, the attorneys also argued to exclude mention of Furrow's
anti-Semitic motivations in the Jewish center shootings, saying they are
irrelevant to the shooting of Ileto.

They also suggested that the term "terrorism" be stricken from the case,
arguing that the government failed to provide a specific definition of it.




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Defense attorneys say man charged in supremacist shootings wrote 'psychotic'
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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- White supremacist Buford Furrow wrote "a psychotic note"
to himself repeating 129 times that he should kill another prison inmate,
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[CTRL] Project Cloverleaf

2000-06-03 Thread William Shannon

- THE GASSING OF AMERICA DEPARTMENT -

Project Cloverleaf: A Secret Biowar?

The Internet was buzzing this week after two reports were published by
airline personnel discussing the recent mysterious chemtrails seen over
the USA.  The first report came from a mechanic with a USA-based airline,
who said he had gone out "to service another airline's plane which had a
malfunction in its waste disposal system."

"When I got into the bay, I realized that something was not right," he
wrote. "There were more tanks, pumps and pipes than should have been
there. I finally realized that the extra piping and tanks were not
connected to the waste disposal system."

The mechanic checked the schematic blueprints for that model jetliner "and
to my amazement, the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had
seen with my own eyes."

A week later, the mechanic entered the service bay of one of his own
company's jetliners and "found a similar system controlled by a
standard-looking avionics box with no markings of any kind."

He traced the unusual piping to "a network of small pipes that ended in
the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers, disguised as
static discharge wires."

Soon after his unauthorized exploration of the jet, the mechanic was
called on the carpet and given a suspension by management. He then
"received an anonymous phone call that warned, 'Now you know what happens
to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't.'"

Still curious about the system he'd seen, the mechanic began exploring
Internet sites in search of answers. The next day, when he  reported to
work at the airport, he found a note taped to his locker. It read,
'Curiosity killed the cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites  that are no
concern of yours.'"

On Monday, May 22, 2000, another man,  describing himself as a mid-level
manager with a USA-based airline, added his comments to the controversy.

Airlines, he wrote, "have been participating in something called Project
Cloverleaf for a few years now. I was briefed on it in 1999. The few
airliner employees who were briefed on Project Cloverleaf were all made to
undergo (FBI) background checks, and before we were briefed on it, we were
made to sign non-disclosure agreements which basically state that if we
told anyone what we know we could be imprisoned."

About 20 employees in our office were briefed, along with me, by two
officials from some  government agency. They didn't tell us which one.
They told us that the government was going to pay our airline along with
others to release special chemicals from commercial aircraft."

"When asked what they were, and why we were going to spray them, they told
us that information was given on a need-to-know basis and we weren't
cleared for it. They then went on to state that the chemicals were
harmless, but the program was of such importance that it needed to be done
at all costs."

"When asked why they don't just rig military aircraft to spray those
chemicals, they stated that there weren't enough military aircraft
available to release chemicals on such a large basis as needed to be done.
That's why Project Cloverleaf was instituted."

"Then someone asked why all the secrecy was needed. The government
representatives then stated that if the general public knew the aircraft
they were flying on were releasing chemicals into the air, the
environmentalist groups would raise hell and demand the spraying stop."

"Someone asked one of the G-men that if the chemicals were harmless, why
not tell the public what the chemicals were and why we were spraying them?"

"He seemed perturbed by this question and told us in a tone of authority
that the public doesn't need to know what's going on, but the program is
in their best interests. He stated that we should not tell anyone, nor ask
any more questions about it. With that, the briefing was done."

Researcher Kim Weber defines chemtrails as a vapor trail that "spreads
into cloud cover and secretes the following--cobalt-blue filaments,
red-yellow powders, milky white fluids."

"IN early April 2000," she added, U.S. Air Force "KC-135s were grounded,
and during the period immediately following, spraying reports across the
U.S. significantly dropped."

An interesting chemtrails case took place near Santa Fe, New Mexico during
the summer of 1999. "There was a 21-day period of continuous cloud cover
where humidity/dew point levels were no higher than 30 percent,"   Kim
wrote, "Clouds can only form when humidity/dew point levels are 60 percent
or  higher. How did the clouds form?"

Researchers have obtained samples of the filaments that precipitated out
of the chemtrail. Under flourescent light, the "filaments glow blue, red
and orange. They contain barium titanate, a dielectric needed to keep
electricity flowing."

"The fibers of the filament were in a twisted ribbon shape 3 to 5 microns
thick and 10 to 13 microns long," with "imperfections that resemble small
clumps of polymer whiskers 

[CTRL] Chupacabras A Black-Op Creation?

2000-06-03 Thread William Shannon

Chileans Believe Chupacabras Is A US Black Ops Creation

"The gringoes had at least three genetic  experiments run away from them
and they've only been able to capture two of  them," states Dagoberto
Corante, a Chilean architect.

Residents of the city of Calama and nearby communities are blaming NASA,
the U.S.  space agency for the apparitions and attacks of the mysterious
Chupacabras, which has caused ruin among farm animals in the region and in
other parts of Chile. Several dozen goats, pigs, chickens, rabbits and
other animals turned up dead in northern Calama and its environs last
April--their   bodies completely drained of blood  and left undevoured
by the mysterious predator.

Among the Chupacabras' alleged characteristics are the ability of leaping
over three meter tall walls and walking  unmolested among dogs, while
police and volunteer patrols who have set out after it only find some
scattered footprints which are nearly impossible to identify in the areas
desert terrain, some 1500 km from Santiago.

An investigation ordered by the authorities concluded that the slaying's
were the product of attacks by packs of wild dogs, but no one  believed
this version while claims of new  Chupacabras attacks developed in
different parts of central and southern Chile.

According to Dagoberto Corante, one such creature was captured by elements
of a local   regiment in an operation that resulted in the death of a
soldier, but the military have allegedly refused to discuss the matter.
"It is said that the captured animal was kept all day at the regiment's
[barracks] until NASA experts arrived to take it away." observed Corante,
who is well known and respected in the area in which the Chupacabras has
feasted on blood and spread fear among the population.

"The day that the events  transpired, the military even closed the airport
for several hours to enable the landing of a helicopter conveying American
scientists." he added, "although no one is quite sure why they had to
close an airport in order for a helicopter to function--these are devices
able to land anywhere, and the fact has given rise to much speculation and
rumor."

Mario Ramos, a respected resident of San Pedro de Atacama, where he owns a
butcher shop, largely agrees with the Corante's story and concerns, and
while he doesn't care to discuss the subject, agreed  that a soldier had
indeed perished during the Chupacabras' capture.

Translation (c) 2000. Institute of Hispanic Ufology. Many thanks to Gloria
Coluchi for this information and to Scott Corrales for forwarding same.

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[CTRL] New Conspiracy Website

2000-06-03 Thread K

http://conspiracy.pagetostart.nl
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I don't care who does the electing as long as I get
to do the nominating. -- Boss Tweed

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[CTRL] Uncovering Bioterrorism

2000-06-03 Thread Robert F. Tatman

Science and Technology Review, May 2000
http://www.llnl.gov/str/Weinstein.html

Uncovering Bioterrorism
Bert Weinstein, Biology and Biotechnology Research Program, Lawrence
Livermore

 WITH the end of the Cold War, the threat of nuclear holocaust faded but
another threat emerged-attack by terrorists or even nations using biological
agents such as bacteria, viruses, biological toxins, and genetically altered
organisms. The former Soviet Union once had a formidable biological weapons
program. Now, several countries and extremist groups are believed to possess
or to be developing biological weapons that could threaten urban
populations, destroy livestock, and wipe out crops.
Even terrorists with limited skills and resources could make biological
weapons without much difficulty, says Tony Carrano, Lawrence Livermore's
associate director for Biology and Biotechnology Research. "It's not
complex, it's not expensive, and you don't need a large facility." For these
reasons, biological weapons have been dubbed the poor man's atomic bomb.
Contributing to the ease of making and concealing biological weapons is the
dual-use nature of materials to produce such weapons, because they are found
in many legitimate medical research and agricultural activities as well. CIA
Director George Tenet touched on this topic in Congressional testimony in
February when he noted the overlap between manufacturing vaccines and
producing biological weapons.
The agents used in biological weapons are difficult to detect and to
identify quickly and reliably. Yet, early detection and identification are
crucial for minimizing their potentially catastrophic human and economic
cost. Lawrence Livermore scientists are participating in the Department of
Energy's program to improve response capability to biological (as well as
chemical) attacks on the civilian population.
A major part of DOE's program is developing better equipment, both fixed and
portable, to detect biological agents (see STR, June 1998, Reducing the
Threat of Biological Weapons). However, any detection system is dependent on
knowing the signatures of organisms likely to be used in biological weapons.
These signatures are telltale bits of DNA unique to pathogens
(disease-causing microbes). "Without proper signatures, medical authorities
could lose hours or days trying to determine the cause of an outbreak, or
they could be treating victims with ineffective antibiotics," says Lawrence
Livermore's Bert Weinstein, deputy associate director of Biology and
Biotechnology Research.
Because of the importance of biological signatures, DOE has launched a
biological foundations program as a key thrust of its effort to improve
response to terrorist attacks. The program involves experts at the Lawrence
Livermore, Brookhaven, Los Alamos, and Sandia national laboratories, as well
as colleges and universities. Researchers from the four national
laboratories get together at least quarterly to share information and yearly
for a formal review of their work. Weinstein reports that important progress
has been made since the program began in early 1997, and new signature sets
are being transferred to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and
the DOE.
Over the next several years, DOE scientific teams expect to produce
species-level signatures for all of the most likely biological warfare
pathogens. The teams also expect to have an initial set of species-level
signatures for likely agricultural pathogens, because an attack on a
nation's food supply could be just as disruptive as an attack on the
civilian population.





 Several Levels of Signatures
The teams also aim to develop strain-level signatures for the top suspected
agents. Strains are a subset of a species, and their DNA may differ by about
0.1 percent within the species. A species, in turn, is a member of a larger
related group (genus), and its DNA may differ by a percent or so from that
of other members of the genus.
Characterizing pathogens at the strain level requires significantly more
work than recognizing a species. But strain-level signatures are essential
for determining the native origin of a pathogen associated with an outbreak;
such information could help law enforcement identify the group or groups
behind the attack.
The biological foundations work aims to provide validated signatures useful
to public health and law enforcement agencies as well as classified
signatures for the national security community. In developing these
signatures, biological foundation researchers are also shedding light on
poorly understood aspects of biology, microbiology, and genetics, such as
immunology, evolution, and virulence. Increased knowledge in these fields
holds the promise of better medical treatments, including new kinds of
vaccines.
The biological foundations work is one element in DOE's Chemical and
Biological Nonproliferation Program. Livermore's component of this work is
managed by its Nonproliferation, Arms Control, and 

[CTRL] I cannot get [slumlord] Al Gore to do nothing, she said.

2000-06-03 Thread Bard



http://www.newschannel5.com/news/0006/02/slumming.html

Gore Accused Of Being a 
Slumlord

What would you call a landlord who let his 
property get run-down, who refused to make repairs, who evicts a tenant who 
complains? A Carthage woman calls that landlord Mr. Vice President. 


Tracy Mayberry, who lives in property owned by 
Vice President Al Gore, has a problem with her plumbing and her toilets 
regularly overflow. 

"It smells just like open sewer right there," 
Mayberry said Friday. 

She said Gore refuses to make any repairs to the 
property. 

"I consider him no better than some of the other 
landlords--the slumlords I call them." 

Every month Mayberry sends Al Gore $400 for 
rent. 

She said she's complained repeatedly about the 
plumbing. She's also complained about how the sinks won't drain and smell like 
rotten eggs. 

"Just the odors alone is enough to make you 
sick," she said about the smell. 

A plumber told her it would cost $300 to 
repair--money she says she doesn't have. She asked Gore to pay for the repairs. 


"I cannot get Al Gore to do nothing," she said. 


After she complained, she received a letter from 
Gore's property manager telling her she had until the end of the month to get 
vacate the premises. 

"I don't think it's fair," she said. 


The letter said once the Mayberrys leave, the 
septic system would be fixed. 

The property manager told Mayberry the secret 
service would move in after she left the home. 

The property manager, Audry Elrod, would not 
comment on the plumbing in the home. 

A lawyer for the Gores faxed NewsChannel 5 a 
statement that said the Gores want the Mayberrys to stay in the home while it's 
being fixed. If that's not possible, they'll help the Mayberrys find another 
place to stay during the renovation work and then let them move back in when 
it's done. 
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Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-03 Thread Nicky Molloy

Well Tenebroust,

I think we can safely say that American abductions could sometimes be the
military because they sometimes pretend they are aliens by using virtual
reality scenarios. But the American govt did build about 50 bases for the
greys which was done by Rand Corp. I'll find the info. English people seldom
get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Abductees in US have gone
underground to both grey and military bases..

According to Branton, there are even more greys under Los Alamos than even
under Dulce, a major nesting area going back to native American times. He
has heard of an area near Los Alamos where the Feds bring huge shipments of
cattle for picking up by grey ships on an almost daily basis. It is a
forrested area southwest of Los Alamos where pictograms of 'aliens' exist.
So the aliens have been in that area long before the atom-jacks came in.
Also setting off nuclear blasts burns away the membrane between this
dimension and the next which would allow any interdimensional entities easy
access to our dimension. There is apparently more Ets seen in Nevada than
some other places possibly due to the nuclear bombs.

Other people in other countries have been abducted and people have seen them
rising bodily into the air and going into space ships.In South America there
are many stories of this. In Mexico there is a video of about 60 UFOs
appearing in the sky at once when there was big crowd. Many hundreds saw
them and videotaped them. Others in US have seen their partner sliding out
of the window from their bed and rising into the air out into the sky. There
was story about the UN Sec, prev to this one in his car watching a woman
float out of her highrise apartment in NY and into a spaceship. This story
is well known. A couple of Govt agents got in touch with the woman and she
told them, where she went as she remembered.

Nicky





-Original Message-
From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, 4 June 2000 05:02
Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:


Nicky; No one can say whether someone was abducted by aliens or if the thing
was induced, especially from a thrid party point examination.  That is the
whole point.  IF the experience CAN be induced, and you admit it can, then
this is a logical explanation which requires no aliens at all.  On the other
hand the idea that "aliens" ARE abducting people just as these experiencers
say they are that cannot be refuted completely, thus it remains a
POSSIBILITY.


On Thu, 01 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:


 Sorry June its pointless talking further, eg how do we know you aren't a
CIA
 agent? It obvious if you were you may know more for a start on this
subject
 instead of turning this into a psychological exercise in belief
systems..As
 for you saying I have dogma. All I said is I'm a Christian and nothing
else,
 the rest is your 'belief system' you so gladly promote.

 Nicky wrote:
 I guess you want proof of underground Et bases too?

 June wrote:
 Yes.  Anything less is just opinion and belief, a subjective
 interpretation
 of limited data.  ETs are only one of many possibilities, not the only
one.


 Now for the next hurdle -

 Nessie do you think some theorists like M Persinger have any more value
than
 those who have personally experienced Ets? Why trust anybody who is
sitting
 reading books on this subject and comparing an abductee experience to an
 induced one. Sure listen to the guy but he knows no more about the
'reality'
 of it than June who hasn't read much at all on this. But we do 'believe'
 from others who have seen throught he deception that the US military are
 faking alien abductions so they can abduct people. But there are geniune
 abductions because people ahve travelled in spaceships and gone to other
 planets and brought back souvenirs. Alec Newald being one.
 Neither person, theorist or ignorant, can tell without being a personal
 witness at the time if someone's abduction occurred. So if one person who
 hasn't personally been abducted, comments on another's experience then
they
 actually know nothing about it.

 Reasons being-
 1 They have read too many books including disinfo so can't decide truth.
 2.They have had drugs and think reality can't be deciphered properly
because
 they can't remember what it is like to have a clear mind anymore, so think
 everyone else is as confused.
 3.They have no firm beliefs and can't perceive another's point of view.
 4.They see a scientific explanation for everything and are not able to
 decipher the complexity of other dimensions and a person's direct
experience
 of them.
 5. They are unable to see beyond themselves to be objective about Earth
and
 its manifold off planet guided expressions of evolution to perfection.

 Nicky


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 what different things do you think the UFOs are?



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Re: [CTRL] TWENTY MOST DISGUSTING CAREERS IN THE UNIVERSE

2000-06-03 Thread Samantha L.

In a message dated 6/3/00 9:59:13 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 15-   Organic farmers who supply Johnny Cochran with healthfull food.

LOL!!!

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Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread Samantha L.

  It is perfectly appropriate for someone to bring their qualifications and
experience to the table during a discussion.  June and Mr. Webre interpret
Vallee differently.  That Mr. Webre knew him and worked with him adds weight
to his interpretation.

  "Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector" does not apply to you?

Samantha

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 Well, it certainly is good to have Alfred here.  Since he has read and
knows
 about every aspect of UFOlogy, I strongly encourage all people who doubt
the
 ET hypothesis of UFO origins to just hang up your hats and drop it in the
 face of his insurmountable knowledge on the matter.  I know that I am
 intimidated by his "I know more than you, so you should just shut up"
 attitude.  If we were smart maybe we should just declare him the winner.
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[CTRL] Submarine Farts Could Flood Mid-Atlantic Coast

2000-06-03 Thread Robert F. Tatman

http://www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/news/press/00/pr0038.htm

News - May 30, 2000

NSF PR 00-38
Media contacts:  Cheryl Dybas, National
 Science Foundation   (703) 306-1070  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Shelley M. Lauzon, Woods Hole
 Oceanographic Institution  (508) 289-2270  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Program contact:  Bil Haq   (703) 306-1586  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Seafloor Off Mid-Atlantic Coast Highly Charged with Gas

Vigorous gas expulsion could weaken shelf edge

A team of scientists investigating whether possible cracks along the outer
continental shelf off the mid-Atlantic coast might lead to a tsunami-causing
landslide has discovered that the entire area is charged with gas.

Based on preliminary results from a just-completed two-week cruise to the
area funded by the National Science Foundation (NSF), the scientists say the
suspected cracks are a system of large depressions along the shelf edge that
appear to have been excavated by gas erupting through the seafloor.

"We don't know the source of the gas," team leader Neal Driscoll of the
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) said. "But it is clear that gas
has played an important role in the formation of these features. The gas is
trapped under layers of sediment on the shelf edge until some circumstance
causes it to escape, blowing holes in the seafloor to form these large
pockmark features we thought were cracks."

In a paper published in the journal Geology days before their May 7
departure for the Mid-Atlantic coast, Driscoll and colleagues Jeffrey
Weissel of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University and
John Goff of the University of Texas Institute for Geophysics, speculated
that rising gas might play a part in triggering shelf-edge collapse. Even
so, they were surprised at the quantity of gas and the apparent vigor of the
"blowout" process.

"Our seismic data show that gas is pervasive in and around the blow-outs,"
Goff said. "Gas has a characteristic signal, which commonly shows up as a
bright, high-amplitude reflection that obscures any deeper signals."

"These are exciting findings," said Mike Purdy, director of NSF's division
of ocean sciences. "We now know that biological, chemical and physical
processes, like those that created the gas reservoirs and gas expulsions
described by these investigators, are going on every day in the depths of
the sea. Driscoll, Goff and Weissel have reaffirmed that exciting and
significant discoveries are waiting to be made on the ocean floor. The
importance of exploring our own planet is again made very clear."

"We were a bit taken aback, to be sure," Weissel said. "A great deal more
work is needed before any definitive statements can be made. Regardless of
the source, it is apparent that gas charging plays a critical role in the
area, and that the ongoing process of blowouts could conceivably weaken the
shelf edge and contribute to a submarine landslide/tsunami scenario."

The scientists say the features, some as large as 2,000 meters (6,500 feet)
across, 50 meters (165 feet deep) and up to 5,000 meters (16,400 feet) long,
occur in a line along the shelf edge. That suggests there is some geological
mechanism at work underneath the features, or their trend and shapes might
be due to their proximity to the shelf edge. A submarine landslide and
resulting tsunami along the shelf, although a very low risk when compared to
the chance of hurricanes and severe storms striking the area, remains
possible.

The May 7-20 research cruise was funded under a grant from NSF's Marine
Geology  Geophysics program and was conducted aboard the Research Vessel
Cape Hatteras, operated out of Beaufort, North Carolina, by Duke University
and the University of North Carolina Consortium. The NSF grant will also
cover the next year of data synthesis and analysis, and the eventual
publication of the detailed results.

-NSF-


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Re: [CTRL] d.i.d. resources

2000-06-03 Thread Smart News

Hi !

Below please find a compilation of mpd/did resources.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick



Our listing these resources does not necessarily constitute our endorsement
of them. Resources mentioned in this resource list are mentioned for
educational value only. Using these resources may or may not help your
recovery process, so use caution when reading anything or contacting anyone
mentioned in this resource list. These listings may be triggering for
survivors of abuse. (Please note: some resources may not be sympathetic to
the existence of RA.)




Double Vision A. Richardson (pseudonym) about recovery from RA , Becoming One
- A Story of Triumph over MPD  S. Olsen about  recovery from MPD (DID),
Trilogy Books, 3579 E Foothill Blvd, #236, Pasadena, CA 91107

Living with Your Selves -survival manual for DID, by Hocking, Launch Press,
Rockville, MD

Multiple Personality, Dissociative States and Traumatic Stress Disorder - has
biblio., Torem and Lohmier, Akron General Med. Ctr., Dept of Psych. 400
Wabash Av., Akron, OH 44307

Sidran Press books on D.I.D. and child abuse, 2328 W. Joppa Rd. #15,
Lutherville, MD 21093, phone 410-825-, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Many Minds - for people with DID, by the Lunds, Soft Words Pub. Sunset
Station, Box 3218, Pueblo, CO 81005

United We Stand - for people with DID, Eliana Gil Ph.D., Launch Press

Diagnosis and Treatment of MPD - by F.  Putnam, MD, Guilford Press, 72 Spring
St. NY 10012

High Functioning MP Patients - R. Kluft, MD, Dept of Psych, Temple Univ
School of Med. And Inst. Of the Penn Hospital, 111 North 49th St. Phil, PA.
19139

Cavalcade Productions, Inc. has videos about  RA,  DID and related topics.
For info: P O Box 2480, Nevada City, CA 95959, 1-800-345-5530.

NEEDID DID  Support Network, a survivor support network, DID and other trauma
related dissociative disorders,(413) 593-8845 or E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
http://members.tripod.com/NEEDID/INDEX.html.

International Society for the Study of Dissociation, P O Box 682, Glenview,
IL 60025, phone: 847-375-4718, fax: 847-375-4777

The Spectrum of Dissociative Disorders: An Overview of Diagnosis and
Treatment by Joan A. Turkus, M.D. is available at
http://www.voiceofwomen.com/centerarticle.html " Major studies have confirmed
the traumatic origin of DID (Putnam, 1989, and Ross, 1989), which arises...
as a result of severe physical, sexual, and/or emotional abuse.
Poly-fragmented DID (involving over 100 personality states) may be the result
of sadistic abuse by multiple perpetrators over an extended period of time."

"Child Abuse And Multiple Personality Disorder," P. Coons, M.D., Dept. of
Psychiatry. Ind. Univ. School of Medicine, Ind., IN 46223, "The syndrome of
multiple personality is associated with a high incidence of physical and/or
sexual abuse in childhood." http://wchat.on.ca/web/asarc/mpd.html

DID: Research and Pseudoscience by S. Dallam RN, MSN,FNP, Treating Abuse
Today, Vol. 8 No. 3 May-June 1998, "The authors conclude (about a different
article): "This study establishes, once and for all, the linkage between
early severe abuse and (D.I.D.)" http://idealist.com/tat/98-07-02-did.shtml

"The Body Keeps the Score: Memory and the evolving psychobiology of post
traumatic stress," by Bessel van der Kolk,
http://www.trauma-pages.com/vanderk4.htm

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[CTRL] Spotlight Says Free Republic Is a CIA Mossad Disinfo Site

2000-06-03 Thread Michael Pugliese

http://www.bilderberg.org/2000.htm
22May00 - Spotlight editorial Policy etc.
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:14:13 -0700
From: Tony Blizzard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Steven Swan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Controversy At Free Republic Over Spotlight
You might also inform the uninformed (or disinformation specialists) on free
republic that The SPOTLIGHT HAS NEVER MADE ANY EDITORIAL POLICY (EXPLICIT OR
OTHERWISE) ON THE TRUTH OF THE HOLOCAUST.
Free republic sounds exactly like another ADL (Mossad in the US) asset.
If any of you go to Free Republic, tell the neo-cons there to back up their
accusations that The SPOTLIGHT is racist with some PROOF. They won't find
any.
The truth is the site is just one more phony "patriot" site that is really a
CIA, Mossad, or other new world order gathering ground that registers true
patriots for future dealings and directs what would be patriotic thought in
the way they want it to go.
Either that or Robinson is one more fundamentalist Zionist who just can't
stand any truth about Israel or even any particular Jew, if he isn't excused
of any and all excesses with a ritual ass kissing.
If you want THE REAL TRUTH of what's going on, you will want to read The
SPOTLIGHT, an international weekly that has NO FEAR OF THE TALMUDIC BRANCH
OF JEWS AND THEIR ZIONIST LACKEYS.
It costs a ton of money to operate a web site such as Free Republic or
worldnetdaily or newsmax, when are patriots going to ask from where that
money comes?
Tony Blizzard

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Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, it certainly is good to have Alfred here.  Since he has read and knows about 
every aspect of
UFOlogy, I strongly encourage all people who doubt the ET hypothesis of UFO origins 
to just hang up your
hats and drop it in the face of his insurmountable knowledge on the matter.  I know 
that I am intimidated
by his "I know more than you, so you should just shut up" attitude.  If we were smart 
maybe we should just
declare him the winner.

Not only does he know all, but he's instructed all the well-known
authors in the field, who presumably would be still hotwiring
computers for a living if they hadn't availed themselves of his
unending fount of knowledge...

Strange that none of them mention him in their acknowledgements
prefacing their well-known works   ;-)


June

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Re: [CTRL] Physical evidence of Alien Abduction.

2000-06-03 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do I have "glassy spheres" in my dust?  I don't remember being abducted, but then 
again
maybe they just made me forget.  I better get my dust checked, and if it has got 
these spheres then I'm
running right to a certified regression hypnotist to force my self to remember the 
hideous abduction that I
didn't have, BECAUSE if the dust is there I MUST HAVE been abducted.  Right?

I think dust bunnies are ETs...

They're abducting humans because they really want our socks...

That's why we all have at least one orphaned sock in our drawers...
the extraterrestial dust bunnies have kidnapped the other sock.


June  (who knows orphaned socks are EVIDENCE of extraterrestial dust bunnies)

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[CTRL] Names of our Masters meeting in Belgium

2000-06-03 Thread Bard

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FRIENDS
I try not to get too close to anyone.
The buggers end up shafting you, breaking your heart or dying.
I do have a few favorite people I talk to online
and one special one in my heart.


- Original Message -
From: "DjL" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Connie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 6:56 PM
Subject: [AboutFreedom] Bilderberg-participants, year 2000 in Belgium


 I would like to know what some of our United States elected servants
 were doing here at the New World Order meeting.

 David

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 http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995

 Bilderberg-participants, year 2000 in Belgium
 Bilderberg Press Release extract: 3 June 2000

 The 48th Bilderberg meeting was held in Brussels, Belgium, 1-3 June 2000.
 Among other subjects the Conference discussed US Elections, Globalisation,
 New Economy, the Balkans, EU Enlargement, the European Far Right.
 Approximately 100 participants from North America and Europe attended
 the discussions. The meeting was private in order to encourage frank
 and open discussion. etc.

 Bilderberg meetings, Brussels, Belgium, 1-3 June 2000
 List of Participants, 3 June 2000


 Honorary Secretary General:

 J. Martin Taylor, Chairman, WH Smith Group, Adviser, Goldman Sachs

 Honorary Chairman:

 Etienne Davignon, Chairman, Société Générale de Belgique

 Agnelli, Giovanni, I, Fiat

 Agnelli, Umberto, I, IFIL

 Aguirre y Gil de Biedma, Esperenza, E, Pres. Spanish Senate

 Allaire, Paul, USA, Chair, Xerox

 Ambrosetti, Alfredo, I, Ambrosetti Group

 Andersen, Bodil Nyboe, DK, Governor, Central Bank of Denmark

 Asper, Israel, CDN, Chair, CanWest

 Avery, Graham, INT, Chief Adviser for Enlargement, EC

 Balsemão, Francisco Pinto, P, Uni, Lisbon, Impressa

 Barnevik, Percy, S, Investor AB

 Benschop, Dick, NL, State Secretary for European Affairs

 Bernabè, Franco, I, Italian rep on Balkan reconstruction

 Betz, Hans-Georg, Columbia  NY Unis.

 Bildt, Carl, INT, UN (Balkans)

 Black, Conrad, CDN, Chair, Telegraph Group

 Bruton, John, IRL, Leader, Fine Gael

 Buchanan, Robin WT, GB, Bain  Co

 Clarke, Kenneth, GB, MP

 Çolakoglu, Nuri, TR, NTV

 Collomb, Bertrand, Lafarge

 Cromme, Gerhard, D, Thyssen/Krupp

 David, George A, GR, Hellenic Bottling

 Deutch, John M, MIT

 Diamandouros, P Nikiforos, GR, Ombudsman

 Dodd, Christopher J, USA, Senator, D, Connecticut

 Donilon, Thomas E, USA, FannieMae

 Dyson, Esther, USA, EDventure

 Fréchette, Louise, INT, UN

 Fresco, Paolo, I, Fiat

 Frum, David, CDN, National Post

 Gouveia, Teresa Patrício, P, MP (PSD)

 Graham, Donald E, USA, Washington Post

 Hagel, Chuck, USA, Senator, R, Nebraska

 Halberstadt, Victor, NL, Leiden Univ.

 Hambro, Christian, N, Research Council of Norway

 Hampel, Erich, A, Creditanstalt-Bankverein

 Hutchison, Kay bailey, USA, Senator, R, Texas

 Huyghebaert, Jan, B, Almanij NV

 Janssen, Daniel E, B, Solvay

 Johansson, Leif, S, Volvo

 Johnson, James A, USA, Johnson Capital

 Jordan Jr, Vernon E, USA, Lazard Frères

 Kayhan, Muharrem, TR, Söktas

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 Kopper, Hilmar, D, Deutsche Bank

 Kravis, Henry R, USA, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts

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 Lévy-Lang, André, F, Former Chair Paribas

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 Pury, David de, CH, de Pury Pictet Turrettini

 Rasmussen, Anders Fogh, DK, Liberal Party

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 Richardson, Bill, USA, Energy Secretary

 Riotta, Gianni, I, La Stampa

 Rockefeller, David, USA, Chase Manhattan Bank

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Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   It is perfectly appropriate for someone to bring their qualifications and
 experience to the table during a discussion.  June and Mr. Webre interpret
 Vallee differently.  That Mr. Webre knew him and worked with him adds weight
 to his interpretation.

Mr. Webre CLAIMS to have known and 'worked' with Jacques Vallee.

I don't hear Monsieur Vallee weighing in here with his agreement.

I'd like Mr. Webre to tell us which of Monsieur Vallee' books we should look
in to find Monsieur Vallee acknowledging Mr. Webre's vast contributions.

I suggest everyone read Jaques Vallee's books for themselves, especially
"Messengers of Deception", and come to their OWN conclusions as to what
Monsieur Vallee's conclusions are...


June

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[CTRL] TEN COMMANDMENTS OF COMPUTER ETHICS

2000-06-03 Thread Bard




 
TEN COMMANDMENTS OF COMPUTER ETHICS


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8. THOU SHALT NOT APPROPRIATE OTHER PEOPLE'S INTELLECTUAL OUTPUT. 
9. THOU SHALT THINK ABOUT THE SOCIAL CONSEQUENCES OF THE PROGRAM YOU ARE 
WRITING OR THE SYSTEM YOU ARE DESIGNING. 
10. THOU SHALT ALWAYS USE A COMPUTER IN WAYS THAT INSURE CONSIDERATION AND 
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[CTRL] The Slack Revolution

2000-06-03 Thread pmeares

featured essay from:
a href="http://www.whywork.org/"CLAWS/a
-- Creating Livable Alternatives to Wage Slavery


   "Someday, there will be no workers, only artists."


Bob Black: Abolitionist and Archestrator of the Slack Revolution
by Steve Mizrach, aka seeker 1

   After all these years, and after reading Bob Black's The Abolition of Work, I 
have
   finally realized just what was wrong with Marxism. Oh, the Marxists talked a 
good
   game - working in the morning, fishing in the afternoon, lounging around to 
watch
   the sunset; 20-hour workweeks; month-long vacations; etc. But when you get
   down to it, they are still drawing from the same poisoned well that has parched
   Western civilization for the last 500 years: the Protestant Ethic, which freed 
Europe
   from Catholic voodoo only to feed its heads with doodoo, such as "work is the
   outward sign of moral perfection." While Luther was telling people that what
   counted was faith and the Holy Spirit, not work and deeds, Calvin helped spread
   silly ideas, like the one that people had to be at constant physical labor or 
idleness
   would tempt them to sin. Deep down, this is the root of the Puritan Ethic: why
   even today the neo-Puritans hate Hollywood with such passion: they feel that if
   we are not kept busy with mindless, rote work, then we will be seized by the
   carnal passions and led to sin.

   Marxists claim that workers are overexploited. So what is their solution? Have 
the
   workers take over the factory to "restore the dignity of work." Make everybody 
do
   manual labor, like the Pol Pot regime did in Cambodia and the Incas did in Peru 
- as
   Mao said, "let there be no separation between the work of the hands and the
   work of the mind." Our goal should be to increase production. Deep down 
Marxists,
   while despising capitalism, only want to hijack what they see as its main 
notable
   achievement, accomplished through the Industrial Revolution: mass production.
   They do not want to abolish the assembly line, only bring more of us to its 
trough.
   Let the elite fat cats sweat with the so-called "working class." Rather than 
wanting
   us to all enjoy the life of leisure led by the fat cats, the Marxists' main 
goal is
   motivated by envy - they want to force the fat cats to suffer as the "working 
class"
   has suffered.

   I finally saw through the Marxist illusion when I realized the deep-set 
opposition to
   automation of mass production. Marx could not have predicted the development of
   robots, and yet his so-called followers oppose them with tooth and nail. Why
   should we force people to do machine-like rote work? Why not have machines do
   the work of machines? Marxists fight automation because they claim it threatens
   jobs. You remember what "jobs" are, right? They are the things that society 
tells
   us we have to work 9 to 5 at and be "productive," right? Marxists deep down view
   people as units of production. They hate people who refuse to be productive, who
   will not work, the so-called "lumpenproletariat" who refuse to be a part of
   anybody's 'productive forces.' Marxists do not have a true liberatory vision. 
They
   want to "liberate" the working class from its exploitation by the finance 
class. But
   they do not want to liberate everyone. They want to turn us all into "workers."

   Bakunin, Kropotkin, Proudhon, and other anarcho-syndicalists, 
libertarian-socialists,
   and anti-technocrats at the International realized that this was the fatal flaw 
of
   Marxism. "Work" as we know it should be abolished - that is, the requirement 
that
   all of us "mass produce" things that other people need - and taken over by robot
   labor. This is the promise of post-industrial society, and yet some Marxists 
greet it
   with horror. After all, even capitalist industrialism raised the standard of 
living of
   the working class to an incredible degree. Yet, things like nanotechnology and 
the
   miniaturization revolution have abolished the fundamental assumptions of Marxism
   and of economics in general. There will be no more scarcity. More and more can 
be
   produced with less and less - of energy, capital, resources, and, yes, human 
labor
   as well. People can and always will produce the things they or those they know
   want with their own hands, or, if they are skilled artisans, the things that 
others
   want, but with time, precision, and care. But there will be no more mass
   production.

   If you understand Black, Bookchin, Fuller, Henderson, or others, then you know
   that the industrial revolution is at an end. The Modernist assumption, that the 
way
   our lives could improve was through industrialization and urbanization, is at an
   end. 

[CTRL] Estabrooks--Mind Control Criminal?

2000-06-03 Thread lloyd

..

A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date of June 3, 2000
^^

Subject: Estabrooks--Mind Control Criminal?

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Blanche Chavoustie claim harassment from
unidentified perpetrators, indicating that managers of
clandestine MC research may still have enormous
resources to conduct surveillance and to cover up
what can only be described as a criminal abuse of
power.  The CIA said back in 1950 that "there are
definite limitations, especially since we are so
greatly handicapped by popular and official
prejudice against some of our methods."  Yet the
cold warriors went ahead anyway, paying leading
psychiatrists and psychologists to use unwitting
human beings without regard for their health or
future well-being.  If what Chavoustie and other
allegedly targeted individuals say is true, that MK-
ULTRA-like use of unwitting experimental subjects
has never really ended, the question has to be asked:
Why is this going on in the post-cold-war era?

 Psychiatrist Colin Ross believes he has found the
answer.  As he sought creative ways to help his
patients recover from childhood trauma and
dissociative identity disorder (DID), Ross discovered
a military secret he says is guarded as closely as the
atomic bomb.  He found evidence in the unclassified
papers of master hypnotist George Estabrooks that
the CIA and U.S. armed services have had offensive
operative Manchurian candidate program since the
late 1930s.  Estabrooks, head of the psychology
department at Colgate Unversity in Hamilton, New
York, had been a military consultant since the late
1930s.  In an October 7, 1940 letter to the Royal
Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), Estabrooks
offered to set up a "counter-espionage service based
on the use of hypnotism," where subjects would
engage in criminal acts with complete amnesia of
any wrongdoing.

 "I am quite convinced that I can have a  good
hypnotic subject enter your office and assassinate
you," he wrote, bragging how easy this would be,
provided "the experimenter did not suddenly find
himself in jail accused of high treason or attempted
murder."  He proposed a demonstration to
"deliberately set up a state of artifically induced dual
personality .. in a private room of any hospital  under
the guise of medical treatment." He assured the
RCMP that "we could show the extreme rapidity
with which hypnosis can be induced in a good
subject, his ignorance of ever having been
hypnotized, his inability to be hypnotized by anyone
else, and the extremely high grade cooperation which
a good hypnotic subject will give when handled by
an expert.

 In a retrospective on his career, Estabroooks wrote
in a 1971 Science Digest article, "One of the most
fascinating but dangerous applications of hypnosis is
its use in military intelligence.  This is a field with
which I am familiar through formulating guidelines
for the technique used by the U.S. in two world
wars." He then related how he hypnotized
intelligence officers to carry information to and from
Japan during World War II.

 The father of intentionally induced MPD,
Estabrooks heartlessly experimented with hypnosis
and drugs on orphaned children in two New York
State institutions."' Although she can't prove it,
Chavoustie suspects he was involved in experiments
in which she was a subject.  Her foot was implanted
while she was at Oswego, New York, not far from
his home base.  Estabrooks was deeply tied into U.S.
intelligence networks; he communicated regularly
with J. Edgar Hoover for three decades." Both
Estabrooks and Delgado were funded by the Office
of Naval Research at the same time.  Estabrooks also
mentored Martin Orne, handing him the torch taken
on when Morton Prince died.  Orne's paper on
"Anti-social Behavior and Hypnosis" is published in
a 1962 book edited by Estabrooks, _Hypnosis:
Current Problems_.  The younger hypnotist also cites
in his own writings, Estabrooks' 1943 textbook on
how to created Manchurian Candidates for military
use.

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[CTRL] Children of God

2000-06-03 Thread lloyd

..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Children of God
Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:49 AM

 Someone named "Rio" on the Internet lashes out at me for
criticizing the Children of God cult, quotes statements I have never
made anywhere, ridicules my spelling and generally runs me into the dust
for daring to publish documented evidence of human right violations by
the sect's leaders. Oh, well... She says she is a devotee of this cult.
 Former members of the CoG talk about violent trauma and real bad
mind control. Rio may well attack the following newsletter as well:

CHILDREN OF GOD.
FAMILY OF LOVE. THE FAMILY.
Newsletter #14 (CP120) Copyright © Jan. 1999 COUNTERCOG P.O. Box 40242,
Pasadena, CA 91114 USA
TEL. (626) 794-9792 FAX (626) 794-1408 E-MAIL.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB PAGE. Http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/countercogi
Warning: This newsletter contains sexually explicit language. Editorial
rights reserved.
Permission granted to photocopy and distribute this pamphlet as is.
INTRODUCTION. The following is an attempt to take a very long and
complicated and confusing story and to filter it down to a simpler but
detailed overview of some of the main points and events of the history,
doctrine and controversies surrounding the Children of God cult aka The
Family. This study is primarily intended for those who have little or no
knowledge about this dangerous group and need to get to the main facts
in a harry. It is also for those honest seekers who find themselves lost
in the labyrinth of volumes upon volumes of endless COG writings,
denials, lies, contradictions, deceptions, as well as never-ending
organizational and doctrinal changes within the group. I want to hasten
to point out that I am far from knowing everything there is to know
about this secretive organization. In one sense it is easy to expose
this group because of the extensive amount of writing they have done.
Because however there is so much of it, it is hard to find the time to
read it all. Furthermore a lot of what the group publishes is intended
for group members only and it is not made available to the general
public. Some of the more controversial of their literature they have
burned and destroyed but copies have survived and are available and have
been used in exposing them. I would be very grateful for any information
from any source that would make this study more complete and more
accurate.
THE EARLY DAYS. I met the group in Berkley, California in 1969. One of
my first experiences as a member was when a large number of us marched
into a church and disturbed the service that was in progress. Many of us
marched in holding long rods in our hands, dressed in red sackcloth
robes, wearing yokes around our necks and ash smeared on our foreheads
as a sign of mourning for the impending doom of the nation. Two members
got around the back of the church platform and unfolded a big sign that
said "Destruction Soon. - You can¹t do you own thing." Another group
member walked up to the preacher who was on the platform speaking and
said something like: "Can I ask you a question? Why are you lying to
these people?" Everybody was startled. In fact it was so shocking that a
man in the congregation actually died! The police came and arrested some
of us and few spent months in jail. For pictures of this event see "Book
of Remembrance" II, (hereinafter BOR II), pp. 255, 245. We had the nerve
to picket outside Sacramento City Hall to protest their arrest. The
group had earlier staged similar events elsewhere in the US and also in
Canada. In Montreal seven members were taken to jail for attempting to
burn a coffin outside a Cathedral there. The people went berserk and
started pushing and beating the intruders, who run to their trucks and
drove their vehicles through the crowds like in a crazy movie. When they
got out of town, thinking they are safe, they stopped to get a hamburger
and as they were eating the police arrived and arrested them. They were
put in jail for about a month and mistreated and their long hair was
shaven. When group members prophesied destruction over Rex Humbard¹s
Cathedral of Tomorrow in Akron, Ohio, four or five people from the
congregation grabbed a group member by the throat while he was still
shouting, hitting and punching him and ripped his shirt and jacket off.
One physically picked him up, carried him out and threw him into traffic
on the highway and a semi track barely stopped, almost hitting the cult
member. Again the police came and some of the group¹s members were taken
to jail. For a while they started wearing sackcloth at all times. Berg¹s
older son, Aaron, dressed in sackcloth, walked into a store and picked
up some of the store¹s merchandise and just walked out without paying!
When questioned about it Aaron replied in old King James English, "The
Lord hath need of it." Aaron also 

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-03 Thread DIG alfred webre

In a message dated 00-06-03 22:13:57 EDT, you write:

 Mr. Webre CLAIMS to have known and 'worked' with Jacques Vallee.

 I don't hear Monsieur Vallee weighing in here with his agreement.

 I'd like Mr. Webre to tell us which of Monsieur Vallee' books we should look
 in to find Monsieur Vallee acknowledging Mr. Webre's vast contributions.

 I suggest everyone read Jaques Vallee's books for themselves, especially
 "Messengers of Deception", and come to their OWN conclusions as to what
 Monsieur Vallee's conclusions are...


 June 

June - Contrary to your assertions as to Jacques' unspotted integrity, he has
been publicly accused of a major research fraud in UFOlogy, a charge he has
never refuted in the two years since he was publicly challenged.  You can
read the entire record at:

http://www.sightings.com/ufo/philahoax.htm

Excerpts:

"You can
 find it at http://www.sightings.com/ufo/philahoax.htm but the
 problem is that the article that it refers to, written by
Jacques
 Vallee, has now been conclusively proven to be a fraud and is
 under investigation.

 Dr. Jacques F. Vallee, scientist and world reknown UFO
 researcher, who was the model for the French scientist in the
 movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" has been the
 target of an ongoing private investigation which is now
 accusing him, and Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of
Scientific
 Exploration, Bernhard Haisch, of promoting research fraud."

There are numerous live witnesses, senior analysts at SRI who can testify to
J VAllee and I collaborating on a UFO research project in May-Septemner,
1977.  A number of them are household names.  I had been reluctant to post
the history of J Vallee's questionable integrity, but you seem to want to
force things.  Relevance: Spiritual integrity is demanded of those in the
field
of higher intellegence, whether in its spiritual or physical manifestations.

In a way I am doing this for the record, not for your enlightenment, June.
I think you are probably doing the best you can.  Jacques has knowingly,
deceptively hurt many people in his life.

Alfred Webre

JV-This is for those misrepresentations in Messengers of Deception.

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[CTRL] Titanic team to search lake for Nazi treasure

2000-06-03 Thread Richard Sampson

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stifgneur02003.html

June 4 2000 EUROPE


 Plumbing the depths: papers giving details
of the Odessa system that helped Eichmann
   to flee Germany were found in Lake
  Toplitz in 1959

Titanic team to search  lake for Nazi treasure

   Nick Fielding and Shraga Elam
DIVERS are launching an expedition to
trawl an Austrian lake for boxes of Nazi
gold, documents and forged British
banknotes designed to aid the escape of
Nazi agents to South America at the end of
the second world war.

As the allies closed in, retreating SS officers
dumped dozens of containers into Lake
Toplitz, high in the Alps, with the intention
of recovering them later.

Tomorrow the Simon Wiesenthal
Nazi-hunting centre in Los Angeles and
the Maryland-based Oceaneering company
- the team that located the wreck of the
Titanic - will plumb Toplitz in a 10-week
dive.

The haul is believed to contain top-secret
Nazi documents detailing how assets from
the Third Reich were deposited in Swiss
bank accounts, as well as art objects, gold
and the records of the Sachsenhausen
concentration camp near Berlin. Documents
detailing the assistance of the Vatican in
transferring funds to South America, and
some gold, are also believed to be
concealed there. Because of Lake Toplitz's
high salt content and low temperature,
they stand a good chance of still being
preserved even after 55 years.

Toplitz should also yield up the secrets of
Operation Bernhard, the huge
counterfeiting operation started by the SS
and backed by Hitler, which aimed to
produce billions in fake pounds and then
use the Luftwaffe to drop the currency over
Britain.

Heinz Riegel, now 80 and living in
Oldenburg, northern Germany, is the only
living member of the Lake Toplitz
Research Group, which included SS men
such Otto Skorzeny, a top Hitler aide who
rescued Benito Mussolini from captivity in
1943; Wilhelm Hoettl, the Third Reich
intelligence officer; and Friedrich Schwend,
considered the unofficial finance minister
of the so-called Fourth Reich - the
shortlived attempt by former Nazis to re-
establish themselves at the end of the war.
Schwend was in charge of Operation
Bernhard.

For 45 years Riegel, a retired
pharmaceutical dealer, has spearheaded
attempts to retrieve the treasure. Asked last
week about what he thinks is in the
remaining boxes, he was guarded. "Who
knows? Perhaps more material on German
industry, including the chemical company,
I G Farben. It is my view that among the
material at the bottom of the lake is some
of that Vatican gold," he said.

"The Austrian authorities did everything
possible to prevent the truth coming out.
They even threatened to torture a former
soldier who knew exactly where the
treasures had been dumped. With the
present diving, the truth will come out."

Although Riegel is
unforthcoming about his
war record, he later became
Schwend's representative in
Europe while the financier
tried to avoid extradition to
Italy from Peru on a murder
charge. In South America -
home to other Nazi exiles
including Adolf Eichmann,
Josef Mengele and Klaus
Barbie, the Butcher of Lyons - Schwend
had dealt in arms.

Riegel's job was apparently to locate and
recover Nazi assets left around Europe.

The Germans did not manage, however, to
reclaim the treasures of Toplitz. In the
summer of 1959, the German magazine
Stern mounted its own diving operation
and retrieved boxes stuffed with forged
pounds. It then found material of a
different nature: SS documents containing
orders for agents all over the world and
those describing the Odessa system - which
was to provide an escape route for Nazis to
South America.

The boxes were immediately confiscated
by the Austrian police and Stern's
investigation was shelved.

In 1963 the Austrian government
organised a dive at Lake Toplitz. It said it
had recovered a further 38 boxes, but
refused to provide any information on the
contents.

Ten years later Riegel was expelled from
Austria after being caught trying to mount
an illegal diving operation - and the lake's
waters have been undisturbed since.
According to witnesses, 130 boxes were
sunk, meaning about 55 should still be in
the lake.

Maximillian Gruber, an SS officer who was
in contact with Riegel, told him that after
receiving orders to dump the boxes he
detonated a massive rockfall into the
100-metre- deep lake to reduce depth at
that spot to about 94 metres. Gruber gave
him a map indicating where the boxes lie,
details of which are reproduced here.

"We have a 50-50 chance of finding what
we're looking for," said Bill Owen, the
high-tech team's dive leader. "This lake
was the garbage can of the Third Reich."



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[CTRL] MOST CHILDREN WHO DIE IN DRUNK-DRIVING ACCIDENTS WERE RIDING WITH THE DRINKING DRIVER

2000-06-03 Thread Richard Sampson

http://psychiatry.medscape.com/22245.rhtml

Most Children Who Die in
Drunk-Driving Accidents Were Riding
With The Drinking Driver


WESTPORT, May 30 (Reuters Health) - In the May 3rd issue of
The Journal of the American Medical Association, two articles
highlight the continuing need for education and policy
interventions to reduce the number of alcohol-related deaths and
injuries of children.

Dr. Lewis H. Margolis and colleagues from the University of
North Carolina at Chapel Hill analyzed data from the 1991 to
1996 Fatality Analysis Reporting System, a nationwide registry
of motor vehicle deaths. The researchers looked at a cohort of
16,676 children younger than 16 whose death resulted from a
motor vehicle accident. The subjects were passengers, cyclists or
pedestrians.

The results indicated that 3,310 deaths (19.9%) were linked to
alcohol use by the driver of the motor vehicle. "Of the
alcohol-related deaths, 79.5% involved children as passengers,
and the remainder involved pedestrians or bicyclists struck by
drivers who had been drinking alcohol." Drivers under the legal
age to purchase alcohol accounted for 30.3% of the fatalities.

Dr. Margolis and his team say that in light of the latter finding,
"laws governing availability of alcohol to this age group should
be more rigorously enforced." In addition, the researchers
recommend increasing the tax on alcoholic beverages to
discourage teenagers from purchasing them.

In the second study, Dr. Kyran P. Quinlan and associates from
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, Georgia
reviewed 1985 to 1996 data from the same database that Dr.
Margolis' group used, as well as 1988 to 1996 data from the
General Estimates System on nonfatal injuries.

They found that between 1985 and 1996, a total of 5,555 children
died in car accidents in which the driver had been drinking. Of
these, 3,556 (64%) were passengers riding with a "drinking"
driver. The researchers note that "child restraint use decreased as
both the child's age and the blood alcohol concentration of the
child's driver increased."

Dr. Quinlan's group reports that between 1988 and 1996, a total
of 149,000 children sustained nonfatal injuries in automobile
accidents involving drunk drivers. "Of these, 58,000 (38.9%) were
riding with a drinking driver when injured in the crash."

Dr. Quinlan and his colleagues recommend stricter laws and
punishment for drunk driving, including license suspension,
mandatory substance abuse assessment and treatment, and "zero
tolerance for alcohol use by drivers younger than 21 years." They
also call for counseling by healthcare providers on the dangers of
drunk driving and "stricter enforcement of child safety seat laws."

In an editorial in the same issue, Dr. Guohua Li calls for the
adoption of a federal zero-tolerance policy for drunk driving. Dr.
Guohua says, "Tolerance of drinking and driving implies
tolerance of more than 15,000 alcohol-related deaths in the United
States this year, next year and as long as drivers and passengers
share the road with others who drink and drive."

JAMA 2000;283:2245-2252,2291-2292.


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[CTRL] Jeff Rense - Sightings - Week of 6/4/00

2000-06-03 Thread DIG alfred webre

* THIS WEEK'S GUESTS *
 6-4 thru 6-9

   (Please note Jeff's Guest schedule can
  change due to late breaking stories, etc).

SUN 6-4
   Alfred Webre: Exopolitics And The UFO Cover-Up

MON 6-5
   Douglas Phillips: Technologically Intoxicated America

TUE 6-6
   David Jacobs:  The ET Abduction Threat

WED 6-7
   Michael Lindemann:  Goodbye CNI News, Hello To...?
   Erich von Daniken:  Ancient Greeks And ETs

THU 6-8
   From England - Gordon Creighton: Editor Flying Saucer Review
   Joe Hall:  New EMF Protection Results

FRI 6-9
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[CTRL] 4th Special Operations Squadron

2000-06-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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The 4th Special Operations Squadron is the largest of eight flying squadrons
within the 16th Special Operations Wing at Hurlburt Field, Fla. The squadron
employs the AC-130U Spooky gunship for close air support, armed
reconnaissance, and interdiction missions in support of conventional and
joint special operations forces. The AC-130U is the very latest in a
distinguished line of gunships. The gunship adopted its Spooky nickname from
the AC-47, the original, first-generation gunship.The U-model gunship is
one of the most complex aircraft weapon systems in the world today,
containing more than 609,000 lines of software in its mission computers and
avionics systems. Although it still uses the venerable Lockheed C-130
airframe, the AC-130U incorporates the latest sensor technology, along with
an entirely new fire-control system, to substantially increase the gunship's
combat effectiveness. The fire control system offers a dual-target attack
capability, whereby two targets up to one kilometer apart can be simultaneousl
y engaged by two different sensors, using two different guns. All light-level
television, infrared sensors, and the Hughes APQ-180 radar (also found on the
F-15E Strike Eagle) provide night and adverse weather capability.
   To enhance survivability, emphasis has been placed on increasing the
stand-off range of the gunship's weapons system and improving first-shot
accuracy. In addition, a set of electronic countermeasures has been installed
to help defend the AC-130U against modern threats. The AC-130U is armed with
a 25mm Gatling-gun cannon (capable of firing 1800 rounds per minute), a
single-barrel, rapid-fire 40mm Bofors cannon and a 105mm Howitzer. The
squadron traces its lineage back to the 4th Air Corps Ferrying Squadron,
which was activated in April 1942 and was subsequently redesignated the 4th
Ferrying Squadron in May 1943. It ferried a variety of fighter, bomber, and
non-combat aircraft to locations in Alaska, Africa and Europe. The squadron
was disbanded in March 1944. The 4th Liaison Flight was activated in October
1949 and was redesignated the 4th Liaison Squadron in July 1952. Its mission
included transport, air evacuation, courier duty and reconnaissance. The
squadron flew the L-13, C-45 and L-20 aircraft. The unit inactivated in March
1954.
   The 4th Air Commando Squadron (Fire Support) was activated in August 1965
and was redesignated the 4th Special Operations Squadron in August 1969. The
squadron's primary mission was to fly strikes against enemy forces in
Southeast Asia. The 4th also flew reconnaissance, forward air control, search
and rescue and equipment test missions. The squadron flew C/AC/FC and HC-47s.
In December of 1969, the squadron was inactivated. The 4th Airborne Command
and Control Squadron was activated in April 1970. It provided an airborne and
auxiliary command post and a communications link for Fifteenth Air Force and
Strategic Air Command. It occasionally flew "Looking Glass" missions to back
up the SAC airborne command post. The squadron flew the EC-135A/C and G
models and was inactivated in September 1992. The 4th entered its latest
incarnation in 1995, with the activation of the 4th SOS at Hurlburt Field,
Fla. Following an extensive flight test program at Edwards Air Force Base,
Calif., AC-130U operations were transferred to Hurlburt Field in late 1994.
At that time, the aircraft were delivered to the 16th Special Operations
Squadron, which operates the AC-130H, the U-model's immediate predecessor.
The squadron was officially activated May 4, 1995. The 4th SOS airmen
participated in their first deployment soon after in October during Exercise
Foal Eagle in the Republic of Korea. In September 1996, the squadron made its
first operational deployment to Brindisi, Italy, supporting Operation Joint
Endeavor in the skies over Bosnia-Herzegovina. The 4th SOS currently operates
13 all-weather AC-130U gunships. The AC-130U represents a major advancement
over previous gunships and incorporates features to enhance maintainability
and supportability making certain its crews, nicknamed the Ghostriders, are
available any time, any place.

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[CTRL] Scourge of the mafia is left to fight alone

2000-06-03 Thread Richard Sampson

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stifgneur02002.html

June 4 2000 EUROPE



  Scourge of the mafia is left to fight alone
  John Follain, Rome

AS head of the ROS, Italy's elite anti-mafia
snatch squad, Sergio De Caprio can claim
credit for putting some of the country's
most feared mobsters behind bars.

However, in a move that has raised fresh
doubts over the determination of the
authorities to fight organised crime, De
Caprio, previously known only by his
codename of Major Ultimo (Last), has
resigned, attacking his bosses for failing to
back his methods and putting less
experienced colleagues in danger.

Carla del Ponte, chief justice at the
International Criminal Tribunal in the
Hague, has proposed that De Caprio, 36,
should put his talents to helping Nato track
down Balkan war criminals such as
Radovan Karadzic, the former Bosnian
Serb warlord.

However, the carabinieri have blocked him
from moving and De Caprio is feeling
vulnerable. His accusations have touched a
nerve in the hierarchy of the paramilitary
police force - which took the unprecedented
step of naming him in its reply to the
resignation letter that he leaked to
newspaper editors.

"I have felt scared. But now I feel alone," De
Caprio said in a rare interview last week
as he broke his cover among joggers in a
Rome park, with armed colleagues in plain
clothes tailing him. "If I'm given a desk job
in Rome, I'll be more in danger there than I
was hiding in Palermo."

For security reasons, no picture of him has
appeared in an Italian newspaper since he
took up his job; this time he again refused
to be photographed.

De Caprio's exploits are the stuff of legend:
in Sicily, he once crept into the bedroom of
a mafioso to place a bug under the bed as
the mobster snored above. "My heart was
beating so loudly I thought it would wake
him," he said. On another occasion, he
awaited his prey while locked for hours in
a trunk.

His greatest coup, however, was the
capture in 1993 of Salvatore "The Beast"
Riina, one of Italy's most notorious mafia
bosses. It inspired a television series based
on De Caprio's life, entitled Ultimo, and
earned him a place on the mob's most
wanted list.

De Caprio said the past two years had
convinced him that the carabinieri and
judiciary were not devoting enough
resources to the problem. The wave of
popular support that followed the jailing of
Riina saw hundreds of mobsters
imprisoned. Recently the evidence of
informers has been discredited and new
limits on the length of preliminary
investigations and custody have hampered
procedures.

The policeman, who takes home just £900 a
month, has fought a lonely battle against
the mob, flitting from bunker to bunker
and never seeing his wife and children.

In the wake of his resignation he has lost
friends fast. Only one Sicilian magistrate
has backed him, while an ominous silence
has descended over the rest of a judiciary
still haunted by the death of his mentor,
Judge Giovanni Falcone, whose car was
blown to pieces in May 1992.

De Caprio has one regret: "I wasn't given
the means to find the new mafia overlord,
Bernardo Provenzano. I know just how he
thinks."

Named "The Tractor" because of his
brutality, Provenzano, 67, is wanted for 40
murders. He has been on the run since
1963 - the year before De Caprio was born.



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[CTRL] MI5 says Real IRA has 1,000lb Semtex cache

2000-06-03 Thread Richard Sampson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/


MI5 says Real IRA has 1,000lb  Semtex cache
By David Cracknell and David Bamber


   MI5 has discovered that the IRA splinter group
   believed to be behind last week's bombing of
   Hammersmith Bridge possesses half a ton of
   Semtex high explosive and is planning a series of
   new atrocities in mainland Britain.

   The Real IRA, which was also responsible for the
   Omagh bombing in 1998, used just 2lb of the
   Semtex in the device that exploded in London in
   the early hours of Thursday morning. The
   explosive was part of a 1,000lb cache of Semtex
   that the republican splinter group took with them
   when they split from the Provisional IRA in 1997
   and which has been added to by recent republican
   defectors.

   MI5 has intelligence reports that the Real IRA will
   attempt to disrupt major events in London this
   summer. Six members of the Real IRA are said to
   be active on the British mainland - young recruits
   guided by an experienced terrorist. Special
   security precautions are being put in place for the
   celebrations surrounding the Queen Mother's
   100th birthday.

   The Real IRA is headed by the former
   quartermaster general of the Provisionals, who
   took a substantial supply of weapons and
   explosives with him when he defected. He was
   behind the Omagh bomb in 1998 which killed 28
   people with a crude device composed of fertiliser
   and explosives with a Semtex "booster" charger.

   Yesterday, Martin McGuinness, the Sinn Fein
   education minister in Northern Ireland,
   condemned the Hammersmith bombers and
   called on dissident republicans not to launch a
   new wave of attacks on the mainland. Security
   forces say Real IRA membership is believed to be
   about 100 and that they work closely with fellow
   dissidents in the Continuity IRA.

   There have been a number of defections from
   leading figures in the Provos to the Real IRA and
   another republican splinter group, the Continuity
   IRA, in recent months. In February, police in the
   Irish Republic discovered 1.3 pounds of Semtex,
   an explosive manufactured in eastern Europe, at a
   Real IRA hideaway in Dublin.

   In the explosion in London Docklands, carried out
   by the IRA in February 1996, a bomb weighing
   more than a ton was used. It was a mixture of
   Semtex, commercial quarrying explosives and
   fertiliser. In Manchester later that year, a one-ton
   bomb, which devastated the city centre, again
   contained Semtex mixed with other explosives.

   The security services have also discovered that the
   Real IRA has developed a new, 120mm mortar -
   called the "Mark 19" - to add to its arsenal. The
   device, which fires rockets, was tested by the
   terrorists in Co Fermanagh last month.

   Yesterday, Sir Ronnie Flanagan, the RUC Chief
   Constable, announced another reduction in troop
   levels in Northern Ireland. He confirmed that a
   battalion based in Dungannon, Co Tyrone, would
   not be replaced when its tour ends in the middle
   of the month, as a further step towards
   normalisation.

   The move, being taken "notwithstanding the
   continued threat from dissidents in some areas",
   was announced after the start of demolition work
   on three military posts in the province. It will
   bring troop levels down to 13,500, their lowest
   since 1970.

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[CTRL] ask rapist a question on Echo of Moscow [live underground radio]

2000-06-03 Thread Bard





  
  
This site is to follow the first meeting of Vladimir V. 
  Putin and William J. Clinton, the Presidents. The data has been collected 
  by the “Echo of Moscow” 
  radiostation from its own sources and the sources of other news agencies. 
  The visit to our radio with the purpose of the one-hour live 
  interview is on the agenda of President Clinton. It is scheduled for 
  19:00 msk approximately (16:00 GMT). 
  The text of the interview will be placed on this site in the course of 
  the program.
  You are welcome to ask your questions , to the US President. 
  

  

http://www.echo.msk.ru/hot/summit2000/eng/index.html

Go to this Site and click on 'ask your 
questions'.
Interview hosts are collecting questions to ask 
the rapist.

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Tell me not, in mournful numbers,Life is but 
an empty dream!For the soul is dead that slumbers,And things are not 
what they seem.-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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now!"WE WANT THIS COUNTRY 
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[CTRL] Medicinal plants face extinction as Russian gangs plunder herb supply

2000-06-03 Thread Richard Sampson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/

   Medicinal plants face extinction as Russian gangs plunder herb supply
 By David Harrison, Environment Correspondent

   CRIMINAL gangs are muscling in on the soaring
   demand for herbal medicines in Britain and other
   Western countries and threatening the existence of
   many plants, says Professor David Bellamy, the
   leading international conservationist.

   Prof Bellamy said that the gangs were using
   threats and violence to take over the harvesting
   and sales of health-giving plants in former
   communist countries including Russia, Albania
   and Romania. The combination of booming
   Western demand and criminal involvement had
   pushed up prices and led to serious
   "over-collection".

   Some 200 medicinal plants in Europe - and many
   more in poorer countries - were now endangered
   species and the list was growing all the time, said
   Prof Bellamy. He said: "It's good that more and
   more people in Britain and other Western
   countries are turning to herbal medicines. But the
   downside is that the plants are being
   over-collected, often on the orders of mafia gangs,
   and many of them are now in serious danger of
   being wiped out.

   "We must find a way of balancing global need
   with a responsible approach to growing and
   harvesting the plants."He added that more
   criminals were moving into the trade. In Russia
   they were reported to be illegally harvesting wild
   ginseng from protected areas of Siberia.

   Prof Bellamy, whose father was a pharmacist who
   made up herbal remedies, said: "Russia used to
   have the tightest conservation laws in the world
   but since the collapse of Communism it's become
   a lot more lax and the criminal elements have
   been able to exploit that."

   Fifteen million people in Britain are regular users
   of herbal medicines and one in four of all
   prescription drugs dispensed by Western
   pharmacists are likely to contain herbal
   ingredients, according to recent research. There
   are now 3,000 herbal medicines - excluding
   Chinese remedies - available in shops and
   pharmacies in the United Kingdom.

   Prof Bellamy said: "These God-given plants are
   vital to the health of everyone, especially the
   world's poor. The issue is now at crisis point. Time
   is not on our side and we need to act now." One of
   the plants under threat is the Arnica which has
   been used by Britons to treat shock and heal
   wounds for about 200 years. Another, Golden Seal
   (Hydrastus canadenis), has been gathered almost
   to extinction and is now the fifth most endangered
   species in the world.

   Some of the endangered species are household
   names such as liquorice, used for cough
   medicines, and thyme and oregano, which have a
   medicinal as well as a gastronomic use. Others on
   the danger list are pheasant's eye (Adonis
   vernalis) used for heart problems; yellow gentian,
   for the digestive system; bearberry, for urinary
   tract disorders; and round-leaved sundew, for
   respiratory problems, bronchitis and asthma.

   The Conservation Foundation and Planet Herbs,
   Britain's biggest supplier to medical herbalists,
   will this month launch a campaign urging
   governments to take the lead in tackling the crisis.
   The decision to launch the campaign was taken at
   

[CTRL] Abraham Lincoln 'was a racist who wanted to deport blacks'

2000-06-03 Thread Richard Sampson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=000154711708973rtmo=kNkNZe3patmo=KKrMpg=/et/00/6/4/wlin04.html




   Abraham Lincoln 'was a racist who wanted to deport blacks'
   By David Wastell, in Washington

   ABRAHAM LINCOLN, the American
   president revered as "The Great
   Emancipator" for leading the war to abolish
   slavery, was really a racist who used
   offensive language to describe black people
   and wanted all Afro-Americans deported,
   according to newly published research which
   has prompted controversy in the United
   States.

   Far from being the willing forefather of
   today's multicultural America, President
   Lincoln advocated reserving the west of the
   country for whites, supported a law
   forbidding black people to settle in his home
   state of Illinois and was fond of racist jokes.
   He used two State of the Union addresses to
   call for the deportation of black people and
   shortly before his assassination in 1865 said
   of the thousands of slaves to be freed at the
   end of the Civil War: "I believe it would be
   better to export them all to some fertile
   country with a good climate which they
   could have to themselves."

   He also habitually used the word "nigger" to
   describe black people, something which
   would have shocked and dismayed the
   hundreds of thousands of civil rights
   activists in the Sixties who made the Lincoln
   Memorial in Washington DC the focus of
   some of the biggest demonstrations the city
   has seen.

   The assault on President Lincoln's character
   and record in a book called Forced Into
   Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream, was
   produced over seven years by Lerone
   Bennett Jr, the executive editor of Ebony, a
   magazine aimed at black Americans. Mr
   Bennett regards what he calls the "Massa
   Lincoln myth" as a 135-year-old problem,
   "one of the most extraordinary efforts I know
   to hide a whole man and a whole history,
   particularly when that man is one of the
   most celebrated men in American history".

   The evidence of Lincoln's true racial beliefs is
   easily found, he says, in his writing and
   speeches. Lincoln blamed black people for
   the Civil War, declaring: "But for your race
   among us there could not be a war, although
   many men on either side do not care for you
   one way or another."

   Although in popular history he is given the
   credit for the Emancipation Proclamation -
   which itself did not directly call for the
   elimination of slavery - he only issued it
   under pressure from other Republicans in
   Congress, Mr Bennett said. However, Lincoln
   was seized upon by progressive Americans
   following his assassination, which came soon
   after the Confederate surrender. There was
   "an explosion of emotion" in the North and
   Lincoln was "appropriated, he was used", Mr
   Bennett said.

   By the late Sixties Lincoln's death was put in
   the same bracket by civil rights campaigners
   as the assassinations of President Kennedy
   and Martin Luther King, the black Church
   leader. The book has prompted controversy
   among academics with one black professor
   calling it "a compelling critique" of the
   revered president's life. But Lincoln's
   defenders are infuriated by the attack.

   Ernest Lefever, author and senior fellow at
   the Ethics and Public Policy Centre, a
   conservative Washington think-tank, said:
   "This effort to paint Lincoln as a racist is
   

[CTRL] Reminder: Judicial Watch report; Federal News Radio; EXBTV

2000-06-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Federal News Radio Washington, DC (WTOP2)

Washington's all news station WTOP-AM has started an "internet
only"  24-hour station. Looks like less fluff news.

Federal News Radio - Washington, DC - WTOP2
Home: http://www.wtop.com/wtop2.htm
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Listen RealPlayer: http://magweb1.magnitudenetwork.net/ram/wtop2.ram

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[CTRL] ENGLISH USAGE EXPERT INTERPRETS 2ND AMENDMENT

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  With credit due to: "Wayne Mann" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
   
  ENGLISH USAGE EXPERT INTERPRETS 2ND AMENDMENT 
  by J. Neil Schulman July 17, 1991 California 
  Libertarian Party
  I just had a conversation with Mr. A.C. Brocki, Editorial Coordinator for 
  the Office of Instruction of the Los Angeles Unified School District. Mr. 
  Brocki taught Advanced Placement English for several years at Van Nuys High 
  School, as well as having been a senior editor for Houghton Mifflin. I was 
  referred to Mr. Brocki by Sherryl Broyles of the Office of Instruction of the 
  LA Unified School District, who described Mr. Brocki as the foremost expert in 
  grammar in the Los Angeles Unified School District -- the person she and 
  others go to when they need a definitive answer on English grammar. 
  I gave Mr. Brocki my name, told him Sherryl Broyles referred me, then asked 
  him to parse the following sentence: 
  "A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free 
  State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be 
  infringed." 
  Mr. Brocki informed me that the sentence was overpunctuated, but that the 
  meaning could be extracted anyway. 
  "A well-schooled electorate" is a nominative absolute. 
  "being necessary to the security of a free State" is a participial phrase 
  modifying "electorate" 
  The subject (a compound subject) of the sentence is "the right of the 
  people" 
  "shall not be infringed" is a verb phrase, with "not" as an adverb 
  modifying the verb phrase "shall be infringed" 
  "to keep and read books" is an infinitive phrase modifying "right" 
  I then asked him if he could rephrase the sentence to make it clearer. Mr. 
  Brocki said, "Because a well-schooled electorate is necessary to the 
  security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall 
  not be infringed." 
  I asked: can the sentence be interpreted to restrict the right to keep and 
  read books to a well-schooled electorate -- say, registered voters with a 
  high-school diploma?" He said, "No." 
  I then identified my purpose in calling him, and read him the Second 
  Amendment in full: 
  "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, 
  the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." 
  He said he thought the sentence had sounded familiar, but that he hadn't 
  recognized it. 
  I asked, "Is the structure and meaning of this sentence the same as the 
  sentence I first quoted you?" He said, "yes." I asked him to rephrase this 
  sentence to make it clearer. He transformed it the same way as the first 
  sentence: "Because a well-regulated militia is necessary to the security of a 
  free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be 
  infringed." 
  I asked him whether the meaning could have changed in two hundred years. He 
  said, "No." 
  I asked him whether this sentence could be interpreted to restrict the 
  right to keep and bear arms to "a well-regulated militia." He said, "no." 
  According to Mr. Brocki, the sentence means that the people \are\ the militia, 
  and that the people have the right which is mentioned. 
  I asked him again to make sure: 
  Schulman: "Can the sentence be interpreted to mean that the right can be 
  restricted to "a well-regulated militia?" 
  Brocki: "No, I can't see that." 
  Schulman: "Could another, professional in English grammar or linguistics 
  interpret the sentence to mean otherwise?" 
  Brocki: "I can't see any grounds for another interpretation." 
  I asked Mr. Brocki if he would be willing to stake his professional 
  reputation on this opinion, and be quoted on this. He said, "Yes." 
  At no point in the conversation did I ask Mr. Brocki his opinion on the 
  Second Amendment, gun control, or the right to keep and bear arms.
  
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