[CTRL] Mind Control Murder ?-- Maryland
-Caveat Lector- http://www.apbonline.com/newscenter/breakingnews/1999/10/11/escape1011_01.html Schizophrenic Baby Killer Goes on the Lam Police Fear Maryland Man is Dangerous Oct. 11, 1999 By Pete Brush SILVER SPRING, Md. (APBnews.com) -- Police are searching for a schizophrenic cocaine addict who got arrested for drunken driving and went on the lam from a low-security psychiatric home where he was sent for smothering his son in 1993, authorities said. Michael A. Lazas is still on the loose more than a week after being charged with DWI and failing to return to the Parkwood House in Silver Spring -- an affluent suburb of Washington -- where he was assigned to live after being released from a state mental hospital in 1998. A nationwide manhunt is under way to find the 32-year-old, who police say should be considered dangerous. Said Voices Told Him To Kill : Lazas, who was found guilty but not criminally responsible for smothering his 23-month-old son in 1993 -- and of a 1991 stabbing in a park in Olney, another town in Montgomery County -- is considered unstable. He told the court in 1993 that he heard voices telling him to kill his crying son. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] POLICE SPYING 101
-Caveat Lector- POLICE SPYING 101 by Jim Redden, author, SNITCH CULTURE Activists are alarmed by a recent federal court ruling which eases restrictions against political surveillance by law enforcement agencies. The ruling was issued on January 11, 2001 by the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. It relaxed restrictions intended to prevent the Chicago Police Department from spying on law-abiding political dissidents. The restrictions were included in a 1981 consent decree stemming from a 1974 lawsuit by the Alliance to End Repression. The suit charged that the FBIs Chicago office and the Chicago police routinely violated First Amendment rights when investigating dissidents. The suit particularly targeted the police department Intelligence Division, dubbed the 'Red Squad' because of its infiltration on communist, socialist and other left-wing organizations. In its ruling, the court said todays political climate is so different from the 1960s and 1970s that the rules need to be changed. "The era in which the Red Squad flourished is history, along with the Red Squad itself," the court said. "The instabilities of that era have largely disappeared. Fear of communist subversion, so strong a motivator of constitutional infringement in those days, has disappeared. "Today, the concern, prudent and not paranoid, is with ideologically motivated terrorism," the ruling continued. "The city does not want to resurrect the Red Squad. It wants to be able to keep tabs on incipient terrorist groups. And if the ... investigation cannot begin until the group is well on its way toward the commission of terrorist acts, the investigation may come too late to prevent the acts or identify the perpetrators." Douglas Lee, a lawyer and legal correspondent for the First Amendment Center, says the ruling is based on faulty reasoning. "From a First Amendment perspective, no distinction exists between 'communist subversion' and 'ideologically motivated terrorism'," Lee wrote in the January 1, 2001 edition of The Freedom Forum Online. "As long as First Amendment conduct does not directly incite imminent illegal action, it is protected, whether it advocates communism or some other anti-democratic message. Conduct falling outside the freedoms of speech and assembly never has been protected by the First Amendment and was not protected by the decree. The effect of modifying the decree, therefore, can only be to permit investigation of pure First Amendment conduct." Lee is correct. And because the ruling came from a federal court, it potentially applies to all police intelligence divisions. So political activists across the country have a right to be concerned. But the truth is, federal, state and local law enforcement agencies never stopped spying on law-abiding political dissidents. That why the Washington DC police department is able to boast that it successfully infiltrated the protesters who demonstrated against the inauguration of George W. Bush on January 20. Confused? You should be. The corporate press has long pushed the myth that political spying in this country was substantially curtailed in the wake of the Watergate Scandal. Many aging liberals have embraced this myth as proof that they helped drive Richard Nixon out of office. Reality is a little different, as I documented in my recently-released book, SNITCH CULTURE: HOW CITIZENS ARE TURNED INTO THE EYES AND EARS OF THE STATE (Feral House, 2000). Heres what happened. Despite all the press coverage it received, Watergate was not the biggest political scandal of the early 1970s. A U.S. Senate subcommittee chaired by Frank Church discovered far more serious examples of illegal government surveillance than the botched break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters and subsequent cover-up. Formally called the Select Committee to Study Government Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activity, the committee documented such infamous surveillance operations as the FBIs Counter Intelligence Programs (COINTELPRO), the CIAs Operation Chaos, and the NSAs Watch List. The corporate media was so busy patting itself on the back over Nixons resignation that it hardly covered the Church Committees final report, which was released in April 1976. But the revelations were so shocking that the Department of Justice adopted new guidelines aimed at curtailing political surveillance. State legislatures and city councils passed similar restrictions, usually under threat of lawsuits by the ACLU. But these victories were short-lived. For starters, the DOJ guidelines only applied to the FBI. They did not cover such federal law enforcement agencies as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, which is part of the Treasury Department. And federal, state and local law enforcement agencies quickly found ways around the restrictions. Among other things, they established information-sharing relationships with private organizations which spied on political dissidents. The best example is
Re: [CTRL] George Bush's vandalism of the White House computers
-Caveat Lector- http://venus.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest/CUDS5/cud547.txt excerpt Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 03:37:40 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED](Jack McNeeley) Subject: File 6--Virus Hits White House ((MODERATORS' NOTE: The following was excerpted from a longer article from The Washington Post)). The following article moved on the Washington Post news wire March 13. I confess that I expected some other CuD reader to go to the trouble of passing the thing along, with enough comment and criticism to pass muster with the fair-use copyright gods, so I neglected to toss the thing your way. Since no one else has done so, and since the on-line shriek community has inexplicably let George Bush's vandalism of the White House computers pass virtually unnoticed, I must submit the following for your perusal. Readers who want the complete article will have to visit their local (paper) library, armed with a dime to plug into the photocopying machine, so that the Post's copyright may be properly violated. Those of you with a social conscience will send some spare change to Katy Graham to buy a legal copy of the newspaper. 11th-Hour Covenant: Lost Memory Computers to Gain for Bush By George Lardner Jr. (c) 1993, The Washington Post WASHINGTON -- When President Clinton's top aides moved into the White House in January, many of them had trouble getting their computers to work. That's because during the night of Jan. 19 and into the next morning -- President Bush's last hours in office -- officials wiped out the computerized memory of the White House machines. The hurried operation was made possible only by an agreement signed close to midnight by the archivist of the United States, Don W. Wilson. The ensuing controversy has added to allegations that the archives, beset for years by political pressures and slim resources, is prone to mismanagement and ineptitude in its mission of preserving for the public the nation's documentary history. It also has raised strong doubts about the efficacy of a 15-year-old law that says a former president's records belong to the people. Just what information was purged remains unknown, but it probably ranged from reports on the situation in Bosnia-Herzegovina to details about Bush's Iran-Contra pardons to evidence concerning the pre-election search of Clinton's passport files. In the warrens of the secretive National Security Council, only a month's worth of foreign cable traffic was retained to help enlighten the incoming administration. [At this point we must pause for fair-use commentary: It's obvious from merely the first five paragraphs of this article that a crime of historic proportions has been committed. If some cyber-rambling teenager had wiped the hard disks of the White House computers, you can bet that legions of doomed SS agents would spare no expense to run the scoundrel to ground. The article continues:] Bush and his lawyers had wanted to leave no trace of the electronic files, arguing they were part of an internal communications system, not a records system. But court orders issued a few days earlier required that the information be preserved if removed from the White House. So backup tapes were made of the data on mainframe computers and carted off to the National Archives by a special task force. Hard disk drives were plucked out of personal computers and loosely stacked into boxes for the trip. Despite such measures, there are indications some material may have been lost. [Indications? Tell me more, tell me more! As in "General Failure Reading Drive C: (A)bort (R)etry (I)gnore"? Oh, I get it: Somebody must have accidentally entered "wipefile *.*". [The article continues:] The transfer had been authorized by Wilson, who at 11:30 p.m. on Jan. 19 put his signature on what would prove to be a highly controversial "memorandum of agreement.' It gave Bush "exclusive legal control' over the computerized records of his presidency as well as "all derivative information.' Critics have denounced Wilson's agreement with Bush as a clear violation of a post-Watergate law that made presidential records public property. And they fear that the authority granted Bush is far broader than officials so far have acknowledged. For their part, archives officials say they did the best they could under difficult circumstances and contend they deserve some credit for getting physical custody of the electronic material. Chided days later about the broad scope of the agreement in a meeting with outside historians, Wilson protested that they just did not appreciate "the political environment in which I was
[CTRL] Mind Control Murder ?-- Minnesota
-Caveat Lector- http://northstar.state.mn.us/courts/library/archive/supct/9906/c0981183.htm STATE OF MINNESOTA: IN SUPREME COURT C0-98-1183 Ramsey County Blatz, C.J. Larry Dewayne Davis, Appellant, vs. State of Minnesota, Respondent. Filed: June 10, 1999 Office of Appellate Courts S Y L L A B U S The evidence presented at trial was sufficient to support appellant's conviction of attempted first-degree murder. Further, the evidence was sufficient to support the trial court's determination that appellant knew the nature of his acts and that they were wrong so that appellant was not relieved of criminal liability by his mental illness. Affirmed. Heard, considered, and decided by the court en banc. O P I N I O N BLATZ, Chief Justice. Appellant Larry Dewayne Davis was found guilty of first-degree and second-degree murder, and attempted first-degree and second-degree murder. Although appellant pled not guilty by reason of insanity, the trial court rejected his insanity defense. Appellant was sentenced to life imprisonment for first-degree murder and to a consecutive 180-month term for attempted first-degree murder. On appeal, he argues that the evidence was insufficient to support his conviction for attempted first-degree murder, and that the trial court erred in rejecting his insanity defense. We affirm. At about 10:45 p.m. on Saturday, May 24, 1997, appellant broke a window and entered the duplex apartment Joanne Kinne and Dolores Fensky shared at 729 Edmund in St. Paul. Kinne was showering in the bathroom next to the kitchen. Brian and Theresa Allen, who lived in the upstairs apartment, heard the sound of breaking glass coming from the front of the duplex. After looking outside and seeing nothing unusual, Theresa telephoned Fenske. Fenske also noticed nothing unusual. Theresa called the police while Fenske, based on Theresa's phone call, warned Kinne to get out of the shower and dress. Kinne got out of the shower and went to the bathroom door. She saw appellant standing behind Fenske near the kitchen sink. As Kinne reached behind the bathroom door to get her robe, appellant grabbed Fenske and wrapped a telephone cord around her. Fenske protested the appellant's actions, and Kinne shouted, [w]hat do you want? Leave us alone. Appellant remained silent. Fenske then fell or was pushed to the floor, blocking the bathroom doorway and Kinne's exit. Appellant grabbed a knife from the dish drainer in the sink and began stabbing Fenske in the head. He said nothing and stared directly at Kinne. When the blade of the knife broke off in Fenske's neck, appellant reached back into the dish drainer, grabbed another knife, and continued stabbing Fenske. Kinne lunged at appellant to stop him from stabbing Fenske. Appellant made an overhand stabbing motion toward Kinne before realizing that the second knife blade had also broken off. He fumbled in the dish drainer apparently looking for a third knife, but none were left. Upstairs, Theresa Allen heard Kinne yelling, [l]eave us alone. What do you want? Just leave us alone. Theresa rushed down the apartment's back steps and toward Kinne's apartment while Brian called 911. As Kinne heard Theresa coming down the back steps, appellant jumped up and ran toward the living room. Kinne ran to her apartment's back door. Before Theresa reached Kinne's apartment, a hysterical Kinne flew out of her apartment. They went upstairs, and Brian relayed the information to 911. Officer David Titus arrived at 10:55 p.m. and noticed a broken window. Inside the apartment, the officer found Fenske on the kitchen floor but did not find appellant. A canine unit was called to the scene. Although the dog picked up a scent at the rear of the duplex, the dog lost the scent a block from the crime scene. Approximately ten minutes later, police responded to a call reporting a suspicious person in an alley three blocks from the crime scene. Ian Hedberg was visiting friends in the area, and he reported to police that he saw a man standing at the end of an alley and looking around as if he wanted to hide while police sirens wailed nearby. Police could not locate the unidentified man reported by Hedberg. At 12:10 a.m., Officer Catherine Pavlak saw a man walking about seven blocks from the crime scene. After reviewing the description of the stabbing suspect, Pavlak stopped appellant. Appellant told Pavlak that he was coming from his girlfriend's house and going to White Castle. Pavlak continued talking to appellant until Officers Thomas Arnold and Patrick Scott arrived. Upon arriving, both officers noticed dirt, sand, and leaves on appellant's arms and clothes, and blood on appellant's jeans. DNA testing later showed that samples of the blood matched Fenske's blood. Appellant initially was compliant as Pavlak guided him to the squad car, but he tried to grab Arnold's gun when Scott tried to handcuff him. A struggle ensued, with appellant trying to grab the officers' guns. After
Re: [CTRL] UFO Shuts Down Russian Airport
-Caveat Lector- UFO Shuts Down Russian Airport http://www.russiatoday.com/news.php3?id=270624ion=default MOSCOW, Jan 27, 2001 -- (Agence France Presse) An airport in southern Siberia was shut down for an hour and a half on Friday when an unidentified flying object (UFO) was detected hovering above its runway, the Interfax news agency reported. The crew of an Il-76 cargo aircraft refused to take off, claiming they saw a luminescent object hovering above the runway of the Siberia's Barnaul airport, local aviation company director Ivan Komarov was quoted as saying. The crew of another cargo plane, refusing to use the runway for the same reason, landed their jet at another airport, Komarov said. The UFO took off and vanished from the airport 90 minutes later, according to the report. ((c) 2001 Agence France Presse) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not saying this is true or not true. Just forwarding. KS The Real Story of Rosa Parks I have been out most of this week so today is the first chance I have had to go over this situation with the alleged failure to use a disclaimer. The above was at the beginning of the post by Kindred Spirit in addition to the "FYI" in the subject matter. I believe this was far more than adequate as a disclaimer. The hell it is. Stating that one doesn't know whether the contents of one's post is true or not does NOT say anything about if one ENDORSES the contents of the post. One can post something that one doesn't know is true or not -- or perhaps even knows is a lie -- and still endorse the opinions expressed in the post. Who the hell cares? -- The underlying principle behind today's government is guys with guns. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ex-First Lady Hillary Keeps No-Eye-Contact Rule
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps she doesn't want her reptoid eyes setting people on fire? On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:07:34 -0500 Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- This sounds exactly like a story I read years ago about Diana Ross of the Supremes. Kelly kl wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archive/print.shtml?a=2001/1/22/111821 NewsMax.com Monday, Jan. 22, 2001 12:18 p.m. EST Ex-First Lady Hillary Keeps No-Eye-Contact Rule She may no longer be first lady. But even as a senator, Hillary Clinton is apparently determined to keep her royal distance from us commoners. A leading conservative columnist has now corroborated earlier reports of Mrs. Clinton's reluctance to make eye contact with her associates - and reveals that the behavior is ongoing. In October NewsMax.com cited a report from WABC Talk Radio's Steve Malzberg, who said a friend at another New York radio station claimed that when Hillary dropped by for an interview, strict orders were issued. "No one is to make eye contact with the first lady," the source said station employees were told. In his book "Unlimited Access," former White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that a similar edict had been issued to White House staff. When one admiring aide who didn't get the word rushed up to meet her Hillaryness, he was immediately rebuffed with an ice-cold stare that let him know he was way out of line. A friend, says Aldrich, explained the new rule to the crestfallen staffer: "When 'Queen Hillary' walks down the hall, you're not supposed to look at her. You're actually supposed to go into an office if there is one nearby. She doesn't want staff 'seeing' her." Now, renowned conservative columnist Robert Novak reports that Queen Hillary's Senate colleagues are getting the same treatment. "At the first session of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee attended by Sen. Hillary Clinton, a senior Republican senator Wednesday tested the report that it is impossible to make eye contact with her." "He said the report turned out to be true," Novak wrote in his Sunday column. -- The real argument against aristocracy is that it always means the rule of the ignorant. For the most dangerous of all forms of ignorance is ignorance of work. - G. K. Chesterton, NY Sun 11-3-18 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A
[CTRL] Mandela rejects claim of MI6 link - smh.com.au - World
Mandela rejects claim of MI6 link - smh.com.au - World.url http://www.smh.com.au/news/0101/28/world/world3.html Mandela rejects claim of MI6 link - smh.com.au - World.url
[CTRL] Fw: Madalyn Murray O'Hair remains found?
-Caveat Lector- JANUARY 27, 23:25 EST Bones Found During FBI O'Hair Probe By MICHELLE KOIDIN Associated Press Writer CAMP WOOD, Texas (AP) - Federal agents unearthed human bones Saturday during a search of the ranch where missing atheist leader Madalyn Murray O'Hair and her family are believed to have been buried more than five years ago, the FBI said. Full story: http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=NATIONALSTORYID=APIS79PPUE00 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] George Bush's vandalism of the White House computers
-Caveat Lector- WASHINGTON -- When President Clinton's top aides moved into the White House in January, many of them had trouble getting their computers to work. That's because during the night of Jan. 19 and into the next morning -- President Bush's last hours in office -- officials wiped out the computerized memory of the White House machines. That was reprehensible, too. It doesn't excuse the Clinton/Gore administration for doing the same, and worse. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- From: "kl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The hell it is. Stating that one doesn't know whether the contents of one's post is true or not does NOT say anything about if one ENDORSES the contents of the post. One can post something that one doesn't know is true or not -- or perhaps even knows is a lie -- and still endorse the opinions expressed in the post. Who the hell cares? 'Kindred Spirit' does, because it is he/she who started whining and has continued to bitch and moan about it all week... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Other uses for the White House was Leahy -- Reply to Nessie
-Caveat Lector- --- Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless shelter. This reminds me of an article I read 10 years ago, about how to, in 30 days, get the government off your back and out of your wallet. The article is buried in my files, but I will dig it out later in the week and post it to the list. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- This is false. Many good quality private Catholic schools charge less then $3000 per year. Many new start up inner city private schools now charge less then $2500. Of course most Govt Schools now charge about $10,000 per year. Sources, please. Nessie This is basic information available in any public library (or basic Net Search). DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SPAM-Anyone else getting this?
-Caveat Lector- I am getting tons and tons of messages likes this. Is anybody else? This person is doing it to a lot of people and all of them are coming on my e-mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems to be the culprit. From: Thomas Marlene Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Casselman, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: Re: very important petition "Casselman, Dale" wrote: Yes, let's vote for Gore and the Psychiatric Drugging of our children. Just ask the Gores what they want. Mr. Kelty. Is this what you want or are you in it for the killing of children? Dale Casselman -Original Message- From: nirsingh khlasa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "recipient.list.not.shown"; @amgen.com Subject: Fwd: very important petition From: "sam Kelty" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: very important petition Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:05:36 -0500 Dear Friends, This is a petition. Please take a minute to read this and join the millions of Democrats in supporting Al Gore for President in the Year 2004. Rumor has it that he is thinking of not running again. The situation is that we NEED him to run again. Do you know what Bush did the first day he was in office? He spent the entire day banning abortion! If this is the way he is going to act on his first day on the job, imagine what FOUR YEARS of this could do to our county, better yet, imagine EIGHT YEARS of this. Tell me my friends, have we gone back to the middle ages, to where evil crawls the earth and innocent woman are being burnt for witch craft? Of course that sounds a little extreme, but where is our freedom going? Who is going to look out for the lower class? Who is going to clean up the environment? And who is going to take care of our youth? This past election has been one of the biggest SCAMS in United States History. There is not much we can do about that right now, unless we start a revolution and run out the royals, like the French did in the 1700s. I doubt you are interested in doing that, so let us save our future. Please let Al Gore know that you support him. Sign the petition! Be a good Democrat! When this list reaches 100 names, please send it back to [EMAIL PROTECTED] your names will be mailed directly to Al Gore, thank you for your support! Send this petition to as many democrats as you can, we can make a difference! 1. Suzy Parker LA, CA 2. Leah Mayfield LA, CA 3. Dan Smith LA, Ca 4. William Travez Trenton, NJ 5. Pat Mc Arthur Trenton, NJ 6. Bill Marks Trenton, NJ 7. May Pines Morrisville, NJ 8. Carol Limburg Troy, MI 9. Ren Martin Troy, MI 10 Kimberly Morris Troy, MI May God bless this earth with PEACE ATTN: if you are the 100th signer, please send this list back to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- dumber than ever Says who? By what standards? Cite your sources. By all State / National / International comparative achievement tests performed over the past 30 years. For every kid that leaves Government School to attend private school, it costs the Government School System that much less. For every kid that leaves Government School to attend private school, the public school (s)he left gets that much less money from the government. Nessie Again you make no sense. For every kid no longer attending Govt School LESS public money is spent. Obviously if it costs $10,000 taxpayer dollars to pay for one kid for one year of Govt School...it saves the taxpayers $10,000 if that kid stops attending Govt School. If the kid costing the public $10,000 per year to attend Govt School gets a $5000 voucher to attend a private school of his/her choice - then it saves the taxpayers $5000. (This is simple math - easy to understand - unless you attended Govt School). flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SPAM-Anyone else getting this?
-Caveat Lector- Nope, I haven't gotten any of this spam. But I did buy a can of turkey spam yesterday. Bill A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SPAM-Anyone else getting this?
-Caveat Lector- Okay Bill, Funny funny. Anyway, this guy keeps sending everything. When people tell him to stop, it comes again!!! Too sleepy this morning to deal with it. Been up all night. Just perplexing how they get certain e-mails. I knew none of those people either. Have a glorious day :) Birds Private Mail Welcome - Original Message - From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] SPAM-Anyone else getting this? -Caveat Lector- Nope, I haven't gotten any of this spam. But I did buy a can of turkey spam yesterday. Bill A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mandela rejects claim of MI6 link - smh.com.au - World
-Caveat Lector- Dale Stonehouse wrote: Mandela rejects claim of MI6 link - smh.com.au - World.url http://www.smh.com.au/news/0101/28/world/world3.html -- Mandela rejects claim of MI6 link - smh.com.au - World.urlName: Mandela rejects claim of MI6 link - smh.com.au - World.url Type: Internet Shortcut (application/x-unknown-content-type-InternetShortcut) === I believe that Mandella has important ties to the West. He would not have been allowed to run South Africa if he would not have these ties. He would have been assassinated a long time ago. Mandella wiped out the Communist faction of the ANC years ago even though it was the Commies who were the driving force towards resistance and freedom for SA's Blacks. Today, SA is a corporate capitalist state. Uncle Tom Mandella did his job. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- Taking even more money out of public education is not the answer. Taking money out of the public education system can only make education more iniquitous than it already is. This is the apparent, but hidden, agenda of those who propose to do so. They are conspiring behind our backs to widen the gap between the rich and the rest of us. The only reason this conspiracy is not generally considered illegal is because they write the laws. But that doesnt mean its not a conspiracy. Nessie Guess it depends on how you define "public education." If you define it as continuing the taxpayer subsidized boondoggle known as "public schools" - then it would be impossible to make Govt Schools anymore "iniquitous" then the are today. To claim that a voucher system supports a "class system" defies reality. Nothing is more "classist" then the present Govt School System. The children of the Elite attend excellent private schools. The children of the middle class generally attend mediocre Govt Schools that are continually declining in the quality of the eduation offered - at an increasing higher cost per pupil. The children of the poor attend atrocious Govt Schools - at increasingly higher per pupil costs. Many of the poor urban areas (Wash. D.C.) have the HIGHEST per pupil cost then anywhere else in the country. If you provide public funds to provide private alternatives to the failing Govt Schools, (at less cost per pupil then Govt Schools) you provide an opportunity for the poorest kids to have some hope of escaping the life time sentence of underachievment. Why do you suppose that the biggest supporters for vouchers come from the Inner Cities? Generations of kids from the Inner Cities have been destroyed by Govt Schools. But then again the Govt School System is a creation of the Corporate State. The supporters of the Corporate State will fight to the death to preserve it. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LAT: The Conscience of a Pentecostal
-Caveat Lector- Sunday, January 28, 2001 http://www.latimes.com/print/opinion/20010127/t08151.html The Conscience of a Pentecostal By MARTIN E. MARTY CHICAGO--Some defenders of former Missouri Sen. John Ashcroft, President George W. Bush's nominee to be attorney general, say he is attacked because he is a person of religious faith. That is not accurate. Most citizens are religious, and most public officials profess a faith. What critics have questioned is whether the specific content of Ashcroft's faith, and his manner of expressing it, might compli- cate his work as attorney general. During his confirmation hearings, he told the Senate Judiciary Committee that "as a man of faith, I take my word and my integrity seriously." That stance, Ashcroft said, means that he will enforce the laws "as they are written" and not enforce his "personal preferences." Also, it "means advancing the national interest, not advocating my personal interest." The words "preferences" and "interest" are terribly weak. A man of faith like Ashcroft is guided by convictions grounded in profound belief, not preferences. His commitments go far beyond "personal interest." By choosing softer words, Ashcroft hoped to make himself more salable to skeptical senators and the American public. But Ashcroft's "preferences" are not what led Bush to nominate him to be attorney general. The new administration needed someone unassailably acceptable to the far-right Republican constituency, notably conservative evangelical Christians. That constituency does not regard Ashcroft's positions on abortion, gun possession, homosexuality, and the size and scope of the federal government as mere preferences. They represent God's will and way. Ashcroft's posture represents an extreme version of a familiar American dilemma. For example, if, on religious grounds, he thinks that abortion is murder, can he with integrity enforce laws that permit such murder? Public officials, including Cabinet members, have often faced such a dilemma. In 1915, Woodrow Wilson's secretary of state, William Jennings Bryan, then an avowed pacifist, followed his conscience and resigned when he saw the president drawing the nation into World War I. Resigning is not the only way some officials face issues where private faith and public duty clash. In 1984, former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo delivered a classic speech at Notre Dame that disturbed anti-abortion foes. He drew on a version of Catholic teaching that made it possible for him to claim that a Catholic could oppose abortion in private life but be called in public to support laws that permit it. C. Everett Koop, a physician with deep evangelical convictions, had to remind the Christian right, whenever it disapproved of his policies and administration, that he was "called"--good Calvinist language--to be the nation's surgeon general, not chaplain general. Now comes Ashcroft, a firm and proud member of the Assemblies of God, the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world. Pentecostals are new to high government posts. According to historian Edith L. Blumhofer and sociologist Margaret M. Poloma, Pentecostals tend to be "apolitical." Yet, many have recently been drawn into politics because of their opposition to abortion. The American public, according to polls, consistently favor public servants who have "integrity" and promote morality. They go on to say that, ordinarily, such morality is grounded in religion. Ashcroft, in speeches to Christian conservative groups, has suggested that the grounding must be in religion, an affirmation appealing to fewer, but still not widely disfavored. The public, however, is uneasy when personal faith is too closely applied to specific legislation and policies. Ashcroft may ground his views in his reading of the Bible, his grasp of Pentecostal faith, his loyalty to his Assemblies of God roots. But the public knows that other people of faith and integrity have come to opposite views on the basis of the same Bible and similar religious traditions. How will Ashcroft reconcile his conviction that abortion is "murder" with his duty to enforce laws that permit such "murder"? Public officials as "persons of faith" approach such conflicts in a variety of ways. Ashcroft's religious tradition is "literalist" about the Bible, ready to refer to "absolutes" and intent on using biblical teaching to fashion civil law. Literalists and absolutists--and staunch Assemblies of God members say they are both--cite biblical passages against homosexual acts and find passages to support their "abortion is murder" claim. Senators who pressed Ashcroft on his views did not learn how, they only learned that he had worked all this out and that his oath of office would dictate his responses. Conscience has come into play in a different way for Ashcroft the lawmaker. Lawmaking is easier on the conscience: One fights for what is
[CTRL] LAT: Why Jackson Won't Quit
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/print/opinion/20010127/t08154.html Sunday, January 28, 2001 Why Jackson Won't Quit By DAVID DANTE TROUTT NEWARK, N.J. -- Apparently, he's back. After revelations that an extra-marital relationship had produced a child, the Rev. Jesse Jackson acknowledged the affair on Jan. 18 and said he would withdraw temporarily from public life. Following the inauguration of a conservative president and a well-attended support rally sponsored by the Rev. Al Sharpton in a Harlem church last Sunday, Jackson changed his mind. His quick retraction raises the question: Would civil rights leadership have suffered a vacuum without Jackson? The question is loaded, especially for many blacks, but the answer is probably the same, for different reasons: No, it would not have. Imagine the reasons on a continuum, beginning with those who could care less about Jackson. Despite the leader-of-the-black-masses image projected by the media, there is considerable antipathy toward Jackson in some quarters, based on everything from rumors to rhyming to backlash to overexposure. Both the revelations of his extramarital affair and his sudden return to public life probably won't endear him any more. Then there's youth and the psychological distance many of them hold toward the civil rights era, in general. But many wouldn't worry because their concept of civil rights is primarily secular. That Jackson is a Baptist minister is only remotely relevant to the pursuit of principles such as racial equality. The clear moral undertones to those principles have, over time, become manifest in laws whose language eschews moral rationales. Nor are those laws concerned with the content of privacy, only its protection. The private morality of their leading advocates is fairly irrelevant. To make private conduct a measure of ability is to miss the whole point in the service of gossip. A related reason sounds in the mainly localized, grass-roots nature of most civil rights work. In the trenches of employment-discrimination lawsuits, racial-profiling investigations or access-to-education controversies, leaders are not national. They need not be male or black, and there is never just one who can overcome more powerful adversaries. Organizations committed to civil rights will do their work, regardless. As a spokesman for larger issues, Jackson helps shape public consciousness. But he is not "the man," because civil rights don't rely on one. On the other hand, the notion of civil rights is viewed by many through a bifocal Christian lens. It's no coincidence that the civil rights movement began with ministers such as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and finds continued force in Sharpton. The relationship between Christian morality and civil rights precepts is cross-referential and mutually reinforcing. They finish each other's sentences. This relationship between Christian morality and civil rights is more revealing than the customary visits of liberal white politicians to black churches during political campaigns. It is an aspirational model of living through articles of faith, expressed in a fluid language of allegory and surrender, protest and redemption. African American Christianity can bridge the theoretical gulf in civil rights doctrine between individual rights and group identity. Few do it better than Jackson. However one might condemn Jackson's loss of control and disloyalty to his wife, he unequivocally owned his transgressions. For those who agree, the ultimate message-- even for leaders--is pretty clear: Judge not, lest ye be judged. So, the question of Jackson's initial withdrawal from leadership is complicated and loaded. So is his retraction. Recall that much of Jackson's prominence occurred amid the policies and court appointments of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush. Then much changed. Indeed, the whole question of civil rights leadership changed dramatically during Bill Clinton's eight years as president. Threats to civil rights gains did not subside, particularly with regard to affirmative action. Yet, a legacy of Clinton's presidency is reflected in Jackson's diminished role. Our famous dialogue on race relations, the one we were encouraged to think would widen and deepen in the midst of Clinton's dedication to core values and his establishment of a traveling advisory panel, was severely diluted by contradictions at the political center. "Mend it, don't end it," the Lani Guinier "dis-appointment," welfare reform and the slavery apology were all the product of appeasement politics that, whatever their intentions, addressed civil rights priorities with a confusing murkiness. Clinton, who could have been the nation's strongest civil rights leader, backed off. Jackson, a friend and advisor to the president, lost his edge. Few others in the top circles of civil rights leadership commanded the new language well for the rest of us. This may now change. Not only are civil rights at further
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless shelter. As long as anybody has to sleep in the street, no politician, particularly the president, deserves a roof over his head. Neither do we. What sophomoric nonsense. In the '60's "De-Institutionalization" became all the rage among "reformers." Over the years millions of mentally ill folks were thrown into the streets. Politicians loved it. State Hospitals for the mentally ill were some of the most expensive state budget items. "Close 'em down, give 'em pills" became the catch word of "reformers." OTOH, when you complain about subsidizing politicians, you make more sense. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYT: Castro: Hopes [Bush] is not as stupid as he seems; Says He'll Keep Eye on Bush
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Cuba-US.html January 27, 2001 Castro Says He'll Keep Eye on Bush By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 9:13 p.m. ET HAVANA (AP) -- Fidel Castro said Saturday that his government will keep a close eye on the new Bush administration, insisting that he will not judge it beforehand but noting that millions of Cubans are trained to handle firearms. ``A new administration of a very irregular form has just been installed in the United States,'' Castro told more than 200,000 people gathered in San Jose de Las Lajas, about 30 miles southeast of the capital. ``We are not in a hurry to judge it beforehand ... We will not throw the first stone,'' Castro said during his half-hour speech, televised live on state television. But, he said, ``we will carefully watch every step it makes and every word it pronounces.'' ``Absolutely nothing will take us by surprise,'' Castro added. Castro noted that ``the Cuba of today is not the Cuba of 1959'' -- the year of the revolution triumphed. Then, he said, Cuban citizens were unarmed and practically illiterate. Now, ``there is not a single illiterate person'' on the island, the Cuban leader declared. ``Millions of men and women have learned how to handle weapons.'' He said his government would continue the ``battle of ideas'' launched 14 months ago against U.S. policies toward Cuba, referring to mass rallies held regularly on Saturdays in different parts of the island. Last weekend, Castro made his first public comments about Bush after the Jan. 20 inauguration, saying he hoped his new adversary in the White House -- the 10th American president to serve since Castro came to power -- is ``not as stupid as he seems.'' The White House declined to comment on most of the earlier remarks. Bush has expressed support for the four-decade American trade embargo on Cuba. He has said he envisions no change in U.S. policy toward the communist island unless free elections are held and political prisoners are freed. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- I also moderate a support list for these women. I have nothing but the greatest contempt for men who treat women this way even if it is just in a threat over the internet. Amelia Violence against anyone is bad. For too long, so called "women's groups" support policies that promote a societal mindset that considers women "weak"; "helpless" and "victims." So called "women's rights" groups act in contradiction. On one hand they claim "women are equal - women are capable of anything" They argue women can be fighter pilots and combat soldiers. On the other hand they also complain that women are helpless victims...they must be protected from the mean men. They are too helpless to escape abusive relationships. This insidious and destructive mindset encourages women to be victims, to rely on "Orders of Protection", "Shelters", etc. Women must be encouraged to empower themselves and to take responsibility for their actions and relationships. Too many times I have witnessed women who intentionally have relationships with dysfunctional men - over and over. They go from one "abusive" relationship to another. The best advice for women: "Stop having children with abusive, immature men." Stop relying on "Orders of Protection" and "Shelters." Instead take a course on self defense and buy a gun. If he stalks you or breaks into your house - shot'em in the balls. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] =?x-unknown?q?_WP=3A_Candidates_Sensed_Defeat_=97_Then_Mobi?==?x-unknown?q?lized_for_Recount?=
-Caveat Lector- Part 1 of a 5 part series Candidates Sensed Defeat Then Mobilized for Recount By David Von Drehle, Dan Balz, Ellen Nakashima and Jo Becker Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, January 28, 2001 ; Page A01 George W. Bush was headed for a workout at the University of Texas gym in the early afternoon of Election Day when his phone rang. Karl Rove, his chief election strategist, had the first wave of exit polls in hand. The news, stunningly, was that Bush might lose. "I got the smell," Bush recalled, the smell of defeat. Rove was full of "all the cautionary notes" about margins of error and possibilities. But Bush instantly knew "it could be trouble." His workout mates #150; Brad Freeman, Craig Stapleton, a cousin by marriage, and Stapleton's son, Walker #150; noticed that Bush had become suddenly distracted. Bush finished exercising and stayed quiet on the ride back. At the mansion, he didn't bother to ask his friends to stay for lunch. "Thanks for coming" was all he said before retreating upstairs to the private residence. There he told his wife, Laura, what the exit polls showed. Together husband and wife replayed the race. In Bush's mind, he had done everything he could, given that he was running into the headwinds of a strong economy and contented electorate. He believed he had targeted the right states. He sensed great intensity among his own troops on the campaign trail. Now he realized that Vice President Gore had done perhaps an even better job of targeting states and firing up his forces. Bush told his daughters Jenna and Barbara: "Girls, it could be a long night. Your dad may lose the presidency and the numbers don't look so good now." On the way to a family dinner at the Shoreline Grill in Austin, he told his parents, "It could be a long night." At the restaurant, after the networks gave first Florida to Gore and then Pennsylvania and Michigan, Bush turned to his father and whispered in his ear, "I'm not going to stay around, I want to go back to the mansion." When communications director Karen P. Hughes joined him there a half hour later, Hughes found Bush standing in front of a television, his father seated on a couch nearby. "How are you, Mr. President?" Hughes asked the elder Bush. Not so good right now, the former president replied. "Defeat," said Bush, "was settling in." ý Half a dozen hours later, in a seventh-floor suite at the Loew's Hotel in Nashville, Al Gore decided that he had lost. He had watched with his family and closest aides as his victory in Florida was pulled off the board by the television networks, which were now calling the state and the election for Bush in one of the most stunning turnarounds in American history. "No," said his daughter Kristin as Bush was declared the winner. "That's not right. That's not what happened." But at 2:30 a.m., Gore's campaign chairman, William Daley, telephoned Bush campaign chairman Donald L. Evans to alert him that the vice president would soon concede. Evans wanted to know how quickly Gore would make a public statement. "Don, it's probably going to take half an hour," said Daley, the Gore campaign chairman. "His kids are getting dressed, they're all crying." "A half an hour?" Evans seemed incredulous, as Daley recalled it. "Yes," Daley replied. "We have to travel up there, but we're getting there as fast as we can." Gore's decision to end it had been quick and businesslike. He had retreated with Daley and senior adviser Carter Eskew into an aide's bedroom, and they had concluded that with the grand prize of Florida now in Bush's column, his lead was insurmountable. It was time to surrender. After conferring with Daley, Gore ran into Eli Attie, the young writer who drafted the candidate's speeches. "Do you have an alternate statement?" Gore asked. Meaning, an alternate to the victory speech. Attie nodded. He had found some down time a few days earlier to prepare a concession speech. Someone had told him once that the way to guarantee victory is to prepare for defeat. "Why don't you meet me in my room?" the candidate said, moving toward the elevators. Attie walked to the speech prep room, where his laptop was humming lightly on a corner table. He pulled up the concession speech and hit the print button, then went to Gore's room. "Is this the number?" Gore asked Daley, waving a slip of paper. Attie realized: The number! It must be the direct line to Bush. The number to call to concede. After Gore made the call to Bush #150; brief, gracious, to the point #150; the candidate and his wife climbed into a limousine for the motorcade to the War Memorial, where a large but subdued crowd stood waiting in the pouring rain. In the boiler room, the cramped space at campaign headquarters nearby where the Gore field operations were based, Michael Whouley, who had pushed Gore to make a fight in Florida and focused on it with single-minded purpose, was shouting urgently across a phone
[CTRL] WP: Fugitive's Pardon Ended 17-Year Effort
-Caveat Lector- Fugitive's Pardon Ended 17-Year Effort By James V. Grimaldi and Robert O'Harrow Jr. Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, January 28, 2001 ; Page A01 Standing backstage at a rally in Belfast last month, waiting for President Bill Clinton to give a speech about the Northern Ireland peace process to an adoring crowd, former White House counsel Jack Quinn buttonholed presidential aide Bruce Lindsey. Quinn had been waiting for a moment to press his case for a new client: Marc Rich, a wealthy commodities trader who fled the United States in 1983, renouncing his citizenship, rather than face federal charges that he evaded $48 million in taxes and traded with Iran during the hostage crisis. So as Irish politicians and celebrities in the crowd did the wave to recordings of Van Morrison's "Brown Eyed Girl" and U2 tunes, Quinn seized the moment. Would Lindsey take a look at a pardon application Quinn had delivered to the White House two days before? Would he take it to the president? That brief exchange on Dec. 13 was part of the final push in Rich's 17-year global effort to avoid going to prison. It was a campaign that involved a parade of high-priced legal talent trying to negotiate a deal with federal prosecutor Rudolph Giuliani and his successors; Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, who called Clinton at least twice this month to urge him to pardon Rich; Nobel Peace Prize winner Shimon Peres; and the unwitting help of some charity leaders whose groups accepted what the pardon application said was $100 million in Rich's largess over the years. Through it all, Rich, now 66, maintained his luxurious lifestyle, with homes in Switzerland and Spain. He occasionally appeared at the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, Switzerland, a high-level international economic summit attended by business and government leaders. Little else is known about his private life in Meggen, Switzerland. He declined requests for a comment through his lawyers. Rich has remained an active trader. According to published reports, his companies courted business in boycotted South Africa, post-Soviet Russia, the Nigerian oilfields of strongman Sani Abacha, and -- despite his close ties to Israel -- Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Clinton's advisers were deeply divided over a Rich pardon, former officials said, with some cautioning that it could create a political and public relations nightmare. On Jan. 20, with just hours left in his eight-year tenure, Clinton gave Rich and his business partner Pincus Green exactly what they were seeking: absolution from the criminal charges. The pardon provoked a fury. Some outraged prosecutors in New York complained that they were blindsided, that Quinn sidestepped normal procedures for pardons by going straight to the White House. Other critics accused Clinton of kowtowing to big campaign donors, such as Rich's former wife, Denise, an Grammy-nominated songwriter who gave the Democrats more than $1 million and hosted a fundraiser for the president at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal in 1998. An old Clinton enemy in Congress promised hearings on the pardon and former Clinton White House officials acknowledged they may be "back in investigation land." To his many supporters, the outcome of Rich's case is an example of how a good man can prevail against an overzealous prosecutor and an unfair press. To his detractors, the pardon shows how Rich and his hired allies used political and financial influence to absolve a man who had thumbed his nose at the U.S. legal system instead of making his case in court. The Charges In 1982, Bill Clinton was making the first of several political comebacks, winning a second term as Arkansas governor after being defeated for re-election two years earlier. Marc Rich, a native of Belgium who emigrated to the United States in 1941, was already a player in international trade and attracting the attention of the law. Prosecutors in the office of New York's aggressive U.S. attorney, Giuliani, were investigating Rich, Green and Marc Rich Co., for illegally buying more than $200 million worth of oil from Iran after President Jimmy Carter banned trade with that nation during the hostage crisis. At the time, Rich's companies were buying and selling crude oil on the world market. In some cases, prosecutors charged, Rich's companies claimed to be paying higher prices than they actually paid, secretly kicking back the profits to co-conspirators. They hid money in foreign accounts, legal papers say, and routinely reported phony losses to reduce their taxes. Representing Rich at the time was legendary Washington attorney Edward Bennett Williams. Before the indictment, Williams met with prosecutor Morris Weinberg Jr., offering a deal: Rich would pay a $100 million fine with no jail time, Weinberg recalled. Williams also promised that his client wouldn't flee. Williams was mortified when Rich disappeared in mid-1983, telling him, according to
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- Men I cut even less slack. If you're a man, don't even look like you're thinking about hurting me. It's the wrong move. It will precipitate a preemptive strike. And if you pull a gun, I'll kill you on the spot. Promise. Insult me to my face, insult my friends in front of me, especially with a racial slur, and I WILL kick your butt into the middle of next week. Promise. And youll make a very satisfying thump when you hit the floor. Capiesc'? Nessie Ha Ha, another Silly Geek ToughGuy!! Just one more mouth breathing girlie boy. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- in closing, i'd like to offer my apologies for bringing these arguments (which i tend to view similarly to an argument with a member of the flat earth society - i was not expecting this to be an issue here) to the list and my condolences for all of you unfortunate enough to live in a country that is backwards enough to continue to promote racism. inri Anyone who doesn't know enough to capitalize "I" cannot be taken seriously. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Del Ponte illness
The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, Belgrade, YU Immediate Release: From William Spring CANA: Christians Against |NatoAggressionTel: 0208802214483 Black Boy Lane London N15 3AP UK Jan 28th 2001composed 2.30 am[EMAIL PROTECTED]Just before signing off I've picked up today's (now yesterday's) copy ofThe Times came across a remarkable story by John Phillips."The former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic should be investigated forthe deaths of 16 Serbian state television employees killed by NATO bombs inBelgrade in 1999..."Carla del Ponte made the request from Davos, Switzerland to PresidentKostunica of Yugoslavia, tribunal officials said."She claimed Mr Milosevic had been warned of the air strike on thetelevision station but he had chosen to disregard the information..."I'm finding it hard to concentrate. I couldn't possibly have readthis, could I, but there it is I've just read it again. It is a new worldorder. The inmates have taken over the asylum.But I wonder: is Milosevic to be blamed for all the deaths caused by NATObombs, for example the burning of train number 393 at the Sarajevo Bridgenear Grdelica on April 12th 1999 ( - Ivan Ana Markovic died on that train,young newly weds. The e mail from theirBaptist pastor announcing this went all over the world.)I find Europe these days a very odd place. It's because I'm getting onI guess- but something is seriously screwy - either her or me.In the tough old world of terrorism counterterrorism the fact a bunch of bombers send a warning before they blowsomeone up doesn't mean that they are extenuated fromresponsibility for the murder.(The warning may not have been received, or it may have been misunderstood,or there was no warning the terrorists simply said there was one, in orderto cover their tracks. Whatever the status of a warning, even if therewasn't one, it doesn't make the slightest scrap of difference in terms ofmoral legal culpability.)Basically people until I read this newspaper report I thought I'd seeneverything. I thought the worst was reached when Jamie Shea came to theLondon School of Economics - to be dutifully applauded by the Good Germansthere, the student body.We would have given him a bad time, the soixante huiteards..But insanity, once it gets a grip, grows.Is she now certifiable? If so, so is Tony Blair, who first put thisbrilliant idea forward in an Alan Little BBC TV documentary in March 2000- words to the effect "we told them to get out the building they didn't,so it's all hisfault."Talk about spin.Maybe it's me - am I a target for a Blairite historical re-education. "Oncethere was anasty little man in Belgrade who NATO didn't like, so NATO threw loads ofbombs at this nasty little man, he still wasn't killed, do you know hewouldn't then admit itwas all his fault - that everybody else was dead..."How do you defeat this particular type of intellectual selfmanipulation/stimulation carried on for our benefit on a world stage.(It was the same unctuous littleprick/ war criminal who took the podium at the Central Hall London lastnight to celebrate Holocaust Memorial Day.)Pity the nation.I'm signing off, definitely. It isn't round anymore. It's definitely flat.Yeats all that, centres don't hold. It used to be different. Come backEngland of the 1950's. I want to get out of this end of century version.Who's got the keys?endsContinued: 10:30 am that's it folks. It's still here, the newspaper, I meanshedid say that.It 's struck me, Shakespeare has a passage on the Del Ponte illness:"Can'st thou not minister to a mind diseased...And with some oblivious antidote cleanse the charged bosom of that perilousstuff which weighs upon the heart?"There the patient must minister to himself."Throw physic to the dogs. I'll have none of it."DAY OF TRUTH FEBRUARY 24TH 2001 FRIENDS MEETING HOUSE EUSTON RD LONDONMrs Jela Jovanovic, art historian Secretary General
Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker?
-Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- what ? the UN found him DIRECTLY responsible Israel had found him INDIRECTLY responsible Yes, you are right about the UN. Israelis don't pay much attention to the UN. And for good reason too. The UN has MANY Muslim states as members, and has many other states which need Muslim oil. I wouldn't exactly call it an unbiassed body. But the point is that the massacre was carried out AGAINST his direct orders according to a Phalangist participant in the massacre. and i dont think the country that he fights for is gonna punish him either. No they will not. He saved Israel from military destruction in the Yom Kippur War. Instead he will probably be the next Prime Minister. That will be interesting. just look at the way the guy that killed that 10 year old got away with it. Killers should fry. J2 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:20:04 -0500 -Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- What are you on man ? Ariel Sharon, was found directly responsible for massacres of palestinians in UN shelters. Actally, he was found INDIRECTLY responsible. The killings were done against his direct orders by a Syrian opperative who was a Christian Phalangist. If you want to know more about this, see... *From Israel to Damascus* on the Net. A book written by one of the Phalangist militiamen who actually did the killing. Joshua2 Mere civilans just trying to survive in UN encampments, when along comes 'the buldozer'. It wasnt even 2 or 20 people that he was responsible for killing, the total tally reached the hundreds. The next time you see Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon talking politely to Ted Koppel on "Nightline," I want you to remember that behind that phony smile is the conscience of a killer. He's the premeditated murderer of U.S. diplomats/hundreds of humans. The next time you hear about the need for a Palestinian state/security, I want you to remember that the leader for life of that nation will be Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon. Does that really sound like the foundation for a permanent peace? See it works both ways From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:01:26 -0600 -Caveat Lector- Murderer as peacemaker? 2001 WorldNetDaily.com How would you like it if millions of your hard-earned tax dollars were sent to a little foreign dictator who murdered two American diplomats and got away with it? I'm sure you would not be a happy camper. Well, as much as I hate to upset you, dear readers, that is precisely what is happening with the millions of dollars the U.S. is transferring in foreign aid to Yasser Arafat and his Palestine Authority. Maybe you didn't know about Arafat's murderous record before. For that you can be excused, because the establishment press has not done much to expose this petty tyrant -- this killer of unarmed, innocent Americans simply doing their country's diplomatic duty. But once I tell you the details of this heinous crime -- this unforgivable act of bloodlust -- you won't have any excuses, anymore. If you don't act -- if you don't scream about it to your elected officials in Washington -- then you, too, will be tacitly guilty of rewarding a cowardly killer for his evil deeds. Here are the facts, as I revealed in a news story in WorldNetDaily last week: On Feb. 28, 1973, Yasser Arafat was overheard by Israeli and U.S. intelligence operatives planning a Black September terrorist operation in Khartoum, Sudan. His transmissions were tape-recorded. They were transcribed, and warnings were issued by National Security Agency personnel to the U.S. Embassy in Sudan. Unfortunately, the alert was delayed because of a bureaucratic snafu. A day later, eight Black September terrorists stormed the Saudi Arabian embassy in Khartoum and grabbed U.S. Ambassador Cleo Noel, Charge d'Affaires George Curtis Moore and others hostage. On March 2, 1973, after the terrorists' demands for the release of Sirhan Sirhan, Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, were rebuffed by President Nixon, Arafat was heard and recorded, once again, providing the code words for the execution of Noel, Moore and Belgian diplomat Guy Eid. They were machine-gunned to death. Until last week, no American involved in this tragedy had spoken out on the details of that tragedy. But 28 years later, James Welsh, the Palestinian analyst for the NSA who issued the first alert on the incident, went public with
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- This is basic information available in any public library (or basic Net Search). DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. That's an extremely lame excuse for having posted something porported to be fact, but not proven. The burden of proof is on the person who states an alleged fact. If you can't prove something, don't expect people to believe it. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- By all State / National / International comparative achievement tests performed over the past 30 years. Which ones? Be specific or we may justifiably assume that you are making it up. Again you make no sense. For every kid no longer attending Govt School LESS public money is spent. Thats exactly what I said. Each school gets its allotment of funds based on the number of students enrolled. Every time one leaves, the school gets less money. You don't seem to be comprehending what I'm saying. Perhaps you should learn how to parse text better. A refresher course would apparently do you good. Obviously if it costs $10,000 taxpayer dollars to pay for one kid for one year of Govt School... Does it? Or did you make that figure up? And what do you mean by Govt? Do you mean federal, local or a combination? This is crucial, because without federal money, kids in poor school districts are condemned to an education inferior to kids in rich school districts. Is that what you are proposing? If the kid costing the public $10,000 per year to attend Govt School gets a $5000 voucher to attend a private school of his/her choice - And if pigs had wings, they fly. When, where and by whom has that figure been proposed? Be specific. then it saves the taxpayers $5000. (This is simple math - easy to understand - unless you attended Govt School). Which taxes are you talking about, local, federal or a combination thereof? Be specific. Are you factoring in the loss of tax money incurred when even more poorly educated citizens find themselves able to earn even less taxable income? You should, because thats what is going to happen if even more money is withdrawn from failing schools. It makes about as much sense as the long discredited medical practice of bleeding a sick person to make them well, and is based on precisely the same principles, ignorance and stupidity. Are you also factoring in the cost to the taxpayers of warehousing people in prison when they turn to crime because they didnt get a good enough education to make a decent honest living. For someone who claims to be educated, you certainly are making a simplistic analysis. Whats the matter, didn't anybody ever teach you how to think things through? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- Violence against anyone is bad. If he stalks you or breaks into your house - shot'em in the balls. Make up your mind. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More politically correct censorship
-Caveat Lector- To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?21508 Sunday, January 28, 2001 Pro-marriage book Harvard dumped does well Author sees 'political agenda' in university press decision By Julie Foster 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Why did Harvard University Press contract with a sociologist to write a book based on her studies showing married people live happier, healthier, more financially secure lives -- and then decide at the last minute not to publish the book? One Harvard Press reviewer said she didn't like the book's "tone." That's about as close to an answer as the public can get since the Press did not return several calls by WorldNetDaily and refused to release a list of board members, declining further comment to other media outlets, citing confidentiality concerns. The Board of Syndics gives a book final approval for publishing after it has been reviewed by two anonymous scholars. "The Case for Marriage: Why Married People are Happier, Healthier and Better Off Financially" was written by professor Linda Waite of the University of Chicago. An expert in sociology, Waite joined forces with writer Maggie Gallagher to create a manuscript after a Press editor heard her speech on the same subject to a professional association. She was given a contract -- and an advance -- and work began on what would become a critically acclaimed book. "It was really late in the process when the deal with Harvard was canceled," Waite said. After the manuscript was finished, it was reviewed and sent back for revisions. The authors made the adjustments and returned the manuscript to Harvard University Press in June, 1999. At that time, one review was extremely positive and the other, though critiquing a few areas, concluded the book should be published. The next step is usually a formality: The Board of Syndics gives its stamp of approval and the book goes to print. But that's not what happened with "The Case for Marriage." According to Waite, a board member said she didn't like the book's tone and objected to some of the research in the book as not being "scientific" enough. "I fail to see the validity of that criticism," Waite remarked. In purely scientific circumstances, a control group is established and subjected to certain stimuli. But in the case of sociology -- specifically a study of marriage -- scientists cannot gather a group of people, tell some to get married, tell others to remain single and then analyze the results. In his column for the Wall Street Journal, Stanley Kurtz examines the charge of weak evidence. "The press board seized upon the failure of Ms. Waite and Ms. Gallagher to prove causal connections, rather than mere correlations. But virtually no sociological study can do that," he wrote. "Proof that marriage increases a man's earning power would require the random assignment of a group of men to marriage and bachelorhood, and then a calculation of their earnings. In a review, the social scientist James Q. Wilson concluded that, despite the impossibility of running controlled experiments with human beings, Ms. Waite and Ms. Gallagher's evidence strongly suggests the benefits of marriage are real." Nevertheless, Harvard University Press cancelled publication of Waite's book in early November 1999, for what Kurtz calls "political" reasons. "It's hard not to suspect politics at play here, especially considering the tone of other books to which the Harvard board was pleased to give its imprimatur," he observes. Kurtz points to other books published by Harvard University Press that go far beyond assertions that married people have more and better sex than singles and tend to be more financially stable. Feminist Catharine MacKinnon argues that male sexual desire can be compared to rape -- whether women consent to sex or not. In his review of MacKinnon's last Harvard Press book, political theorist Walter Berns remarked that MacKinnon's argument expresses a whole-hog hatred of men. "If scholarly tone is the issue, compare Ms. MacKinnon's rhetoric on sex to Ms. Waite and Ms. Gallagher's: Ms. MacKinnon: What in the liberal view looks like love and romance looks a lot like hatred and torture to the feminist. Ms. Waite and Ms. Gallagher: What these prominent researchers found may shock you: Married people have both more and better sex than singles do ... The answer, both theory and evidence suggest, is that the secret ingredient marriage adds is commitment. "Which sounds to you more like unscientific extremism?" Kurtz asks. Nevertheless, Waite's book was denied publication in early November 1999. But, by the end of that week, the author said she had the book out to nearly a dozen trade publishers with offers pouring in. In the end, Doubleday submitted the winning offer, which "was really a blessing," said Waite, who noted the mainstream publisher ensured the book would be seen by more than just trade professionals. While the author said she
Re: [CTRL] Unnatural disaster: Deregulated California utilities
-Caveat Lector- "Theodor Parada, MD" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Unnatural disaster Deregulated California utilities are electrocuting the public. Ohio is next by Harvey Wasserman Electric utility deregulation has become a spectacular catastrophe, starting in California and stretching deep into our economic and ecological future, here in Ohio and nationwide. To keep it simple, we'll start with the top 10 truths about this unnatural disaster: 1. There is no electric supply shortage threatening California (or the nation), only a series of complex, cynical manipulations that have ramped prices sky high, yielding enormous profits for a few distributors and generators. Get a grip on reality. The problem, is that no new sources of electricity have been developed in CA and this state continues to grow. I guess you don't know how to read eh? How did you get that MD? Unless MD stands for mighty dumb. Here let's try again... 1. There is no electric supply shortage threatening California (or the nation), only a series of complex, cynical manipulations that have ramped prices sky high, yielding enormous profits for a few distributors and generators. I was just at a conference in Phoenix, while there I was told that they're building 4(four) NEW power planets to provide for their anticipated population growth!! Nuclear is clean and safe. Yah definately. I wouldn't mind nuke power, but only with certain conditions. One of those conditions is that the nuke waste be buried under YOUR home. Another is that all the families of the plant's managers and major stockholders live within two miles of the Plants, and they too should have the " clean " nuclear wastes buried under their houses. It doesn't matter who runs the utilities, if you don't have a source generating the power, there will not be any power. I guess you ARE dumb. Didn't the article say that these greedy corporate oinkers took several key plants OFFLINE? Jeez! You're not a human doctor are you? Maybe here in CA they can gather up all the endangered desert rats and place them on a wheel and have them run! and voila they'll have cheap energy! LOL. Or, maybe they could put a few windmills at the doors and windows of the CA legislature and continue to blow themselves out of a crisis that they made with their insane eco/epa policies. Technology has advanced but the mentality and mindset of the politician and neo-nazi environmentalist hasn't. There, there doc. Prescribe yourself a large dose of sedatives and watch what happensto the energy biz in California. And since I don't like you, I urge you to go with your beliefs and buy up all the ' nuke ' stocks you can get your hands on. Joshua2 PS: Health care is next. Are you ready for socialized medicine? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] About Face: Far from Unifying, Bush Coddles the Christian Right
http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2001/01/sobel-l-01-26.html About Face: Far from Unifying, Bush Coddles the Christian Right 1.26.01 by Lindsay Sobel When George W. Bush nominated John Ashcroft for attorney general, commentators portrayed it as the one bone that George W. Bush would throw to the religious right -- a way of shutting up the Jerry Falwells and Pat Robertsons so he could ignore them henceforth. Oops. Instead of settling for Ashcroft and moving center, Bush spent his first week in office systematically fulfilling the Christian right's To Do list -- and adopting its (often-exclusionary) rhetoric. No end is in sight. Witness: To control the spin, presidents often choose a theme of the week on which they and their flacks hammer. Does President Bush start with the tax cut on which he ran so hard? No. On prescription drug benefits? No. On military readiness? No. Bush's theme next week will be "Faith-Based Initiatives." In fact, President Bush will announce the Office of Faith-Based Action that he proposed during the campaign (though the name may be changed). As Bush's Web site boasts, the office "in the Executive Office of the President . . . will identify and remove federal regulations that bar faith-based organizations from participating in federal programs, and encourage the 50 states to establish their own offices of Faith-Based Action." Recall that the welfare reform-era provision "Charitable Choice" (sponsored by then-Senator Ashcroft) already permits faith-based organizations to get federal funding to provide social services. So what federal regulations will the office axe? According to Marvin Olasky -- the evangelical Christian father of the term "compassionate conservatism" and a Bush mentor -- the offending regulations are those that deter groups receiving federal funds from evangelizing to recipients. Olasky criticizes the government for denying funds to organizations that "offer spiritual as well as actual food." And he praises President Bush for establishing such an office, even though he acknowledges it will be extremely controversial. The proposal Bush pushed his first week in office was also a plum for religious righties: his education plan. Though the papers made much of Bush's downplaying his private and religious school voucher proposal, it is right there on page two. Bush seems to think that if he says his plan is palatable to everyone, then it will be. But even though Bush doesn't call his vouchers "vouchers," the unpopular proposal remains: Give federal vouchers for private school or tutoring to parents of children in failing schools. A voucher by another name is still a voucher, and Christian conservatives -- who have long made government funding of religious school tuition a high priority -- are delighted. That's not all. After spending the campaign hedging on abortion, Bush proved that not only will he fight abortion rights, but that his opposition is strong enough that he is willing to scuttle family planning and reproductive health in the process. On his first work day as president (the 28th anniversary of the Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade) Bush reinstated the policy that blocks all federal money from going to international family planning organizations that provide abortions or abortion counseling with their own money. There has long been a prohibition in place on federal money going to abortions overseas. So all this policy would do is cut U.S. funding that helps experienced organizations provide condoms to couples in AIDS-plagued Africa, pre-natal nutritional information to expectant mothers in poverty-stricken parts of India, and birth control to desperate and overburdened parents in Latin America. Christian conservatives have long pushed the policy -- and they got it on day one. On the same day President Bush blocked family planning funds, he thrilled right-wingers by sending a written statement to protesters marching in front of the Supreme Court to dispute the Roe v. Wade decision. He wrote, We share a great goal: to work toward a day when every child is welcomed in life and protected in law. . . But the goal leads us onward: to build a culture of life, affirming that every person, at every stage and season of life, is created equal in God's image. Further, a Bush spokesperson announced that the president would ask the Food and Drug Administration to reevaluate the safety of the abortion pill RU-486 that the FDA approved in September (and has been safe and legal in France for more than a decade). If the FDA deems it unsafe, RU-486 would be illegal again in the United States -- just the way the Christian right wants it. Bush even catered to religious conservatives on Inauguration Day. In the midst of a platitudinous speech about unity, Bush slipped in a paragraph promising to give "Church and charity, synagogue and mosque . . . an honored place in our plans and laws (my emphasis)." Minutes later, Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell -- Bush's choice to give the
[CTRL] GROUP 13
http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/group_13.htm GROUP 13 By David Guyatt It is the number that carries the most occult significance. Throughout Europe it has historically been regarded as an ill omen. In Norse mythology, the number 13 often signifies death. Today, in the United Kingdom, there exists a paramilitary unit called Group 13. The sole purpose of this ultra secretive unit is deniable assassination and it operates in the world of shadows. So little is known about them, that it is exceptionally hard to document its activities with any certainty. One individual - a former civilian undercover agent for the security services - contacted by The X Factor, recounted his story of a encounter with Group 13. Gary Murray, author of “Enemies of the State” had decided to research Group 13 to write a book on them. He soon changed his mind. One day during his research phase he was forcibly dragged in to the back of a Transit van and had a gun stuck to his head. A voice told him it would be unwise to continue his project. Sensibly, he decided to abandon the project and instead write a book on an altogether different subject. Group 13 is generally believed to have evolved from former SAS soldiers and Security and Intelligence operatives who were once active in Northern Ireland during the mid to late nineteen seventies when a Labour Government was still in power. Fred Holroyd, a Captain in British Army Intelligence, served in Northern Ireland during this period. Holroyd was tasked with developing informers and other human intelligence sources connected to the IRA. It was inherently dangerous work, made a lot worse by a viscous turf battle between MI5 and MI6 for control of the Northern Ireland “patch.” Matters grew increasingly nasty as “assets” for each of the two contending groups were tossed to the wolves. Holroyd, when interviewed by The X Factor, outlined some details of this dirty war, recalled incidents where bombs were placed by one of these factions and then roundly blamed on the IRA. Holroyd’s story and later disgraceful treatment at the hands of the British Army are recounted in his book War without Dishonour.” Holroyd’s account sheds light on the so called “Shoot to Kill” policy in Northern Ireland that resulted in the dysfunctional investigation of former senior police officer, John Stalker. This investigation ultimately resulted in the gripping feature film: Hidden Agenda. The Special Air Service was formed during WW11 by David Stirling with the intention to operate behind enemy lines and to perform acts of sabotage and assassination. By 1969, the SAS had been sent to Northern Ireland to perform covert operations against the IRA - which included assassination. To cover their deployment to this politically sensitive area they chose the guise of “training teams.” A succession of cover names was used over the next few years; these included the Military Reconnaissance Force (MRF), the 14th Intelligence unit, and the Four Field Survey Troop, Royal Engineers. Fred Holroyd states that the latter was very definitely a SAS undercover unit stationed at the Royal Engineers base at Castiledillon, Armagh. 1974 was a critical year in British politics. It saw the election victory of the Labour Party in February and was soon followed by rumours of an impending coup d’etat. Right wing groups operating in the shadows of power began to form themselves. These groups saw Premier Harold Wilson and certain members of his Cabinet, as no holds barred communists taking orders from Moscow. The idea that Wilson was a communist mole is, even by today’s paranoid delusions, a farcical belief. At that time, however, planning for a right wing coup was seen by these extremists as the only alternative to keeping Britain from the wily grasp of Moscow. One of these groups was named GB75, and was organised by David Sterling, founder of the SAS. Significantly, GB75 and the other groups had close contacts to the British security and intelligence community, from which they probably received some form of unofficial succour. Founded in 1970 was another mysterious group which called itself Resistance and Psychological Operations Committee (RPOC). RPOC was established in line with the Reserve Forces Association and was said to be a reflection of the Special Operations Executive (SOE) - a WW11 dirty tricks operation. According to one former member, RPOC had a clandestine section which formed an underground resistance movement in the event Russia invaded the United Kingdom. With a nod and a wink of the Conservative government of the day, it forged close links to the British security and intelligence apparatus, and “…formed close links with the SAS…own secret intelligence network.” Little is known of the SAS’s secret intelligence network, apart from one enlightening publication. Ranulf Fiennes, the Artic trekker was a one time member of the SAS. In
[CTRL] HOLY SMOKE AND MIRRORS
http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/holy_smoke_mirrors.htm HOLY SMOKE AND MIRRORS By David Guyatt Albert Vincent Carone is one of those people who spent his life dancing between raindrops and turning invisible wherever a shadow lingered. He existed and also didn’t exist. Al Carone - unlike his near namesake, Al Capone – truly was a paradox wrapped in a mystery concealed behind an enigma. Carone was a detective in the New York Police Department, but this didn’t stop him from becoming a “made” man in the Genovese crime family. He knew all the leading Mafiosa of his day, including Vito Genovese, Sam Giancana, Santos Trafficante, Joe Colombo and Pauley Castellano amongst others. To Carone’s daughter, Dee, they were all known as “Uncle.” When she got married, her father arranged two different reception rooms to separate the “mob” guests, from the NYPD guests. But this was more window-dressing than anything else. One of Carone’s principal functions in the NYPD was to act as the “bagman” in protecting shipments of CIA drugs to the various Mafia families. Carone died in 1990 under mysterious circumstances. This followed a period of great personal disenchantment with his life following a secretive mission to Mexico in 1985 when a large number of innocent women and children died unnecessarily. His death was horrific, reports Mike Ruppert, editor of “From The Wilderness” newsletter, who has investigated Carone’s life story and written a special report on it (see acknowledgements). Meanwhile, another “Uncle” was Bill Casey, the former Director of the CIA during the Reagan administration. Casey had been with the OSS during WW11. During the “seventies” he became Chairman of the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) that regulates the US investment industry. During his tenor in that role, Casey used Carone as a “cut-out” to pass sensitive insider information to mob Capo, Pauley Castellano, says his daughter, Dee. Carone was also a full Colonel in the US Army where he had operated in the Army’s Counter Intelligence Corp (CIC). Unsurprisingly, in view of his close friendship with Bill Casey, he was also a covert operative for the CIA. But that wasn’t half of it. Carone was also a Grand Knight of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) – which historically has been the military arm of the Vatican and is regarded as separate “state” with full powers of statehood including issuing its own diplomatic passports. In more recent decades SMOM has acted as a funding conduit, a black market gold channel and money-laundry for the CIA, amongst others – and is known to act as the Vatican’s intelligence arm. It was, for example, alleged to be involved in the disappearance of Russia’s gold reserves – over 2000 metric tonnes - that vanished during 1991, around the time that Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev was ousted from office. Malta knighthoods are awarded to many leading individuals who are part of the military and intelligence community. The CIA’s Bill Casey, for example, was Knight of Malta. Former NATO General (and later US Secretary of State) Alexander Haig is also a Malta Knight. Another is General Vernon Walters, the former Deputy Director of the CIA under DCI George Bush and later appointed a roving Ambassador during the Reagan administration. The legendary head of the OSS – the WW11 precursor of the CIA – was “Wild” Bill Donovan, who was made a Knight along with his wartime compatriot and later CIA chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton. And John McCone, another prominent member of the US “spook” agency was also distinguished with a Malta knighthood. The list goes on. Most interesting was Reinhard Gehlen the former Nazi intelligence expert recruited by the US in 1945-46 to head the “Gehlen Org” – a secret German-based intelligence arm of the United States that was composed of former SS Gestapo agents – many of whom, including Klaus Barbie, were wanted Nazi war criminals. The foregoing names amount to a listing of some of the most powerful and influential members of the western intelligence community over the last five decades. One Vatican group that has extremely close ties to the Knights of Malta is the ultra right wing Opus Dei. This is an immensely powerful faction in the Vatican today, whose public “do good” activities eclipse a plethora of the darkest political and financial machinations known to man. It will not come as a surprise, perhaps, that Carone was closely associated with Opus Dei and, in particular, a covert operation that had its origin back in 1944. This was Operation Amadeus. THE DULLES FACTORThis highly secretive operation was part of the Operation Sunrise negotiations conducted between Allen Dulles – the then senior wartime OSS officer in Switzerland, but later to become the Director of the CIA – and SS General Karl Wolff. This debonair and well-connected SS officer commanded the SS and
[CTRL] HOUSE BILL PROPOSES LIFTING BAN ON ASSASSINATIONS
http://www.copvcia.com/assassination_ban.htm HOUSE BILL PROPOSES LIFTING BAN ON ASSASSINATIONS BUSH ADMINISTRATION WASTING NO TIME IN MOVING TOWARD WAR FOOTING Armitage The Executioner FTW 1/24/01 - HR 19, Introduced by Republican Georgia Congressman Bob Barr on January 3, 2001, the first day of the new 107th Congress, would legislatively repeal sections of three Executive Orders specifically prohibiting assassinations by the United States Government. Entitled the "Terrorist Elimination Act of 2001", the bill, submitted to the House International Relations Committee, would specifically nullify sections of three previous Executive Orders including one initiated by Ronald Reagan in 1981. It is interesting to note that acts of Congress are not required to nullify previous Executive Orders (EOs) which are, by definition, orders issued by the President and Commander in Chief to all federal employees (including military) under his authority. All that is necessary to reverse one EO is another EO. This is exactly what President George W. Bush did with respect to EOs issued by President Clinton on the environment in the last days of his administration. Section 3 of HR 19 specifically states: "The following provisions of Executive orders shall have no further force or effect: (1) Section 5(g) of Executive Order 11905. (2) Section 2-305 of Executive Order 12306. (3) Section 2.11 of Executive Order 12333." [By Ronald Reagan] Section 5 (g) of Executive Order 11905, signed by Gerald Ford on 2/18/76 specifically prohibited "political" assassination. Section 2-305 of Executive Order 12036, signed 1/24/78 by Jimmy Carter renewed the ban. Section 2.11 of Executive Order 12333, signed by Ronald Reagan on 12/4/81 renewed the ban on assassinations, or conspiracy to commit assassinations, as part of a broader package which gave virtually complete control of the American National Security apparatus to then Vice President George H.W. Bush. The full text of HR 19 may be viewed at http://thomas.loc.gov. Enter a search in the 107th Congress for 19 and it will take you straight to the bill The bold move, unreported and ignored by any major media, offers a chance for an early referendum on the new administration's full-speed run at a more violent and brutish foreign policy. The current bill, introduced by staunch Bush supporter and Clinton impeachment leader Barr, indicates that the Bush administration is seeking to add legitimacy to the move by implying that Congress and the American people support the action. This can only mean that there is quite likely a list of people the Bush Administration wants to start killing fairly quickly. The appointment of career covert operative and Annapolis graduate Richard Armitage as Deputy Secretary of State under Colin Powell only underscores the clear message that the Bush Administration is sending to the world. Armitage, who was denied a 1989 appointment as Assistant Secretary of State because of links to Iran-Contra and other scandals, served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs in the Reagan years. U.S. Government stipulations in the Oliver North trial specifically named Armitage as one of the DoD officials responsible for illegal transfers of weapons to Iran and the Contras. But Armitage's dirty past goes much deeper. A Vietnam veteran and graduate of Annapolis, Armitage's roots have been thoroughly intertwined with the likes of CIA veteran Ted Shackley, Richard Secord, Heine Aderholt, Elliot Abrams, Dewey Clarridge, Edwin Wilson and Tom Clines. All of these men have been directly linked to CIA covert operations, the drug trade, the abandonment of U.S. prisoners of War after Vietnam and/or Iran-Contra. Armitage has also been routinely discussed in FTW as a Bush-era covert functionary who has been linked to covert operations, drug smuggling and the expansion of organized crime operations in Russia, Central Asia and the Far East. In 1986 a private dispute between POW activist Ross Perot and Armitage went public as photos of Armitage with a topless Vietnamese nightclub owner Nguyet O'Rourke brought allegations of gambling and prostitution very close to Armitage's doorstep. The stories went public when TIME and "The Boston Globe" wrote lengthy stories on the feud in 1986 and 1987. That scandal arose as a result of 1984 investigations by President Reagan's Commission on Organized Crime in which the photo and documentation of gambling charges and prostitution led directly to Armitage's close association with O'Rourke. Then LAPD Assistant Chief Jesse Brewer, a former Commanding Officer of this writer, served on the Reagan Commission. The 1992 best-seller "Kiss The Boys Goodbye" by former "60 MINUTES" producer Monika Jensen-Stevenson details Armitage's role as Reagan point man on Vietnam POW-MIA issues and describes why Armitage has earned the enmity of many POW activists. However, in a 1995 interview with
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- Ha Ha, another Silly Geek ToughGuy!! Just one more mouth breathing girlie boy. You're just another internet coward, mouthing off from a safe distance. How come none of you guys ever mouth off to my face? I'm not THAT hard to track down. Bring it on. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- Nothing is more "classist" then the present Govt School System. The children of the Elite attend excellent private schools. The children of the middle class generally attend mediocre Govt Schools that are continually declining in the quality of the eduation offered - at an increasing higher cost per pupil. As you have just illustrated, Americas school system is classist, not because it is a Government School System, but because it is a combination of public and private. The classism results, not from the public, but from the private component. The rich get better education because they can afford to pay more. Vouchers will not change this. The commodification of education will not change this. If anything, it will make it worse. Private education sells the same way any commodity sells. Some people shop at K-Mart and some people shop at Sharper Image. This is not a free choice on their parts. It dictated by economic reality. Should some kids get a K-Mart education while other kids get a Sharper Image education? Thats the issue here. By your logic, if it is alright for government to give vouchers to buy one commodity it should be alright to give vouchers to buy any commodity. Wheres my Sharper Image shopping voucher? Why arent you agitating for that? Cost per pupil should not even be considered. Education is a right. It should not matter what it costs. Whatever it costs is worth it. This is the philosophy applied to defense spending. Why not apply it to education? Whats good for America is good for America, right? Or are you saying that quality education is not as good for America as a bloated and redundant military? We have the the resources to make public schools be better than even the very best private schools. Instead we squander them on providing the corporations, especially the oil companies, with a private army with which to enforce their predation. If you provide public funds to provide private alternatives to the failing Govt Schools, (at less cost per pupil then Govt Schools) you provide an opportunity for the poorest kids to have some hope of escaping the life time sentence of underachievment. Even with vouchers, the poorest kids would not be able to afford private school. You obviously have no understanding of poverty, probably because youve never been poor or spent very much time around poor people. I suggest that you educate yourself a little about the subject before you make an even bigger fool of yourself spouting off about things you know nothing about. Do a field study. Do some community service. Volunteer at a homeless shelter or a soup kitchen. Get to know some of these people. Get to know what their lives are like. Then come back here and talk about poverty. In the meantime, quite frankly, youre just blowing hot air. Not only that, but if you have never done any community service, it is extremely likely that you dont really care about poor people. Yet now you suddenly profess great concern with the education of their kids. I strongly suspect that you dont give a flying rats *ss about poor people or their kids, except as pawns in the promotion of your own agenda. If you really cared so much about poor kids education youd be volunteering as an after school tutor. All you seem to really care about is your own wallet. Anything that might save you a buck is a good thing. Selfishness is a social disease. Its carriers should be quarantined. Why do you suppose that the biggest supporters for vouchers come from the Inner Cities? Oh really? Do you know these people personally? Name ten of them. Tell us how to get in touch with them so we can contact them and find out if they exist or if you just made them up. And what -exactly- do you mean by biggest? Do you mean loudest? Or do you mean most widely reported by the corporate media? And what do you mean supporters? it seems to me that if anybody is going to wind up supporting vouchers its we taxpayers. That means that some of my money will effectively be taken from my by threat of force and given to religious schools. This in intolerable. Generations of kids from the Inner Cities have been destroyed by Govt Schools. Generations of kids from the Inner Cities, and from rural America, have been destroyed by poverty. Blaming it on the schools is a distraction from the real source of the problem. But then again the Govt School System is a creation of the Corporate State. The supporters of the Corporate State will fight to the death to preserve it. Are you even aware that you are contradicting yourself when you blame whats wrong with education on the Corporate State and then propose that we turn to corporate schools to fix it? If not, you really ought to go back to school and take Logic 101, because your reasoning abilities appear to be severely impaired. If you are aware of this contradiction, and continue to profess it, you are a hypocrite. So tell us, which is it? Are
[CTRL] EMERGENCY POWERS!!!
-Caveat Lector- On June 17, 1995, The Executive Committee of the Republican Party of Texas adopted by unanimous vote RESOLUTION #5 entitled: "Restoration of the United States Constitution". I quote the very first paragraph of this Resolution: "Whereas, The Republican Party of Texas recognizes that acts of the Congressional body and the Office of the President of the United States of America created an emergency condition, and that on and after March 6, 1933 and March 9, 1933 the same said Public Offices effectively impaired and suspended the Constitution for the United States of America under pretense of these same created emergency conditions, and that the impairments and disabilities yet exist and are in full force and effect throughout the Nation and several States of the Union as of the date of this resolution; and Whereas, there has occurred continuous breach of trust, duty and obligation imposed under authority of the Constitution for the United States of America, resulting in a continued abridgment of the Rights, Privileges, Immunities, and Liberties of Citizens and others, all committed under pretense of a continuing national crisis and furtherance of emergency conditons..." The Resolution concludes by demanding "the rescinding of the state of national emergency declared on March 9, 1933...thereby returning the United States of America to its original peacetime Constitutional Republic." A complete copy of this Resolution is available from: The Republican Party of Texas 211 East 7th St Suite 620 Austin, TX 78701 Someone should ask President Bush if he will terminate this phony "National Emergency". Because until it is terminated, we are living under a dictatorship. Regards to All Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- You are equating homelessness with mental illness. If you had ever spent any time around homeless people you would know better. Some mentally ill people are homeless. Others are not. Some mentally ill people not only live indoors, they even hold political office. Some homeless people are, in fact, mentally ill. Most homeless people are merely broke. A significant proportion are women and children, refugees from battering and abandonment. You really, really ought to do some research into the field before you pontificate. Youre making a major fool of yourself by betraying such ignorance. Besides, I never said anything about institutionalizing the White House as a homeless shelter. I propose we throw out the people who live there and leave the doors unlocked. The homeless people can manage the rest by themselves. They dont need institutions. They need a roof over their heads. Americas greatest shame is that paper sleeps in a palace while people sleep in the street. Any night of the week you can literally see people huddled against the cold in the doorways of bank buildings that are locked shut. This is unconscionable. Any society that allows human beings to suffer needlessly is a sick society. Our institutions should serve us, not the other way around. America needs its reset button hit. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] GROUP 13
-Caveat Lector- --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/group_13.htm GROUP 13 By David Guyatt The sole purpose of this ultra secretive unit is deniable assassination and it operates in the world of shadows. The Special Air Service was formed during WW11 by David Stirling with the intention to operate behind enemy lines and to perform acts of sabotage and assassination. __ Nakano comments: The British Special Air Service [S.A.S] participated in the strange and maccabre events in Waco, Texas in 1993. You'll recall that David Koresh and the Branch Davidians were attacked and kept under seige for 51 days and then burned alive in their church. You may also recall the recent Official Investigation conducted by Janet Reno's appointee, former U.S. Senator Danforth. Most of that "investigation" centered on the famous "F.L.I.R. videotape pictures which were taken of the fatal fire. "FLIR" is Forward Looking Infrared. The secret cameras used to take these pictures belonged to the British SAS. The aircraft from which the pictures were taken was an SAS plane. You may also recall the government finally admitted that U.S. "DELTA FORCE" personnel were involved at Waco. Does anyone have any ideas on why such secretive "Elite" military units were involved? Why was the SAS involved in a purely U.S. domestic issue? There was obviously something going on at Waco that went far beyond the alleged possession of illegal automatic weapons by the Davidians. Regards to All Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HOLY SMOKE AND MIRRORS
-Caveat Lector- TEST --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/holy_smoke_mirrors.htm HOLY SMOKE AND MIRRORS By David Guyatt Albert Vincent Carone is one of those people who spent his life dancing between raindrops and turning invisible wherever a shadow lingered. He existed and also didnât exist. Al Carone - unlike his near namesake, Al Capone â truly was a paradox wrapped in a mystery concealed behind an enigma.   Carone was a detective in the New York Police Department, but this didnât stop him from becoming a âmadeâ man in the Genovese crime family. He knew all the leading Mafiosa of his day, including Vito Genovese, Sam Giancana, Santos Trafficante, Joe Colombo and Pauley Castellano amongst others. To Caroneâs daughter, Dee, they were all known as âUncle.â When she got married, her father arranged two different reception rooms to separate the âmobâ guests, from the NYPD guests.  But this was more window-dressing than anything else. One of Caroneâs principal functions in the NYPD was to act as the âbagmanâ in protecting shipments of CIA drugs to the various Mafia families. Carone died in 1990 under mysterious circumstances. This followed a period of great personal disenchantment with his life following a secretive mission to Mexico in 1985 when a large number of innocent women and children died unnecessarily. His death was horrific, reports Mike Ruppert, editor of âFrom The Wildernessâ newsletter, who has investigated Caroneâs life story and written a special report on it (see acknowledgements). Meanwhile, another âUncleâ was Bill Casey, the former Director of the CIA during the Reagan administration. Casey had been with the OSS during WW11. During the âseventiesâ he became Chairman of the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) that regulates the US investment industry. During his tenor in that role, Casey used Carone as a âcut-outâ to pass sensitive insider information to mob Capo, Pauley Castellano, says his daughter, Dee. Carone was also a full Colonel in the US Army where he had operated in the Armyâs Counter Intelligence Corp (CIC). Unsurprisingly, in view of his close friendship with Bill Casey, he was also a covert operative for the CIA.  But that wasnât half of it. Carone was also a Grand Knight of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) â which historically has been the military arm of the Vatican and is regarded as separate âstateâ with full powers of statehood including issuing its own diplomatic passports. In more recent decades SMOM has acted as a funding conduit, a black market gold channel and money-laundry for the CIA, amongst others â and is known to act as the Vaticanâs intelligence arm. It was, for example, alleged to be involved in the disappearance of Russiaâs gold reserves â over 2000 metric tonnes - that vanished during 1991, around the time that Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev was ousted from office. Malta knighthoods are awarded to many leading individuals who are part of the military and intelligence community. The CIAâs Bill Casey, for example, was Knight of Malta. Former NATO General (and later US Secretary of State) Alexander Haig is also a Malta Knight. Another is General Vernon Walters, the former Deputy Director of the CIA under DCI George Bush and later appointed a roving Ambassador during the Reagan administration. The legendary head of the OSS â the WW11 precursor of the CIA â was âWildâ Bill Donovan, who was made a Knight along with his wartime compatriot and later CIA chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton. And John McCone, another prominent member of the US âspookâ agency was also distinguished with a Malta knighthood. The list goes on. Most interesting was Reinhard Gehlen the former Nazi intelligence expert recruited by the US in 1945-46 to head the âGehlen Orgâ â a secret German-based intelligence arm of the United States that was composed of former SS Gestapo agents â many of whom, including Klaus Barbie, were wanted Nazi war criminals. The foregoing names amount to a listing of some of the most powerful and influential members of the western intelligence community over the last five decades. One Vatican group that has extremely close ties to the Knights of Malta is the ultra right wing Opus Dei. This is an immensely powerful faction in the Vatican today, whose public âdo goodâ activities eclipse a plethora of the darkest political and financial machinations known to man. It will not come as a surprise, perhaps, that Carone was closely associated with Opus Dei and, in particular, a covert operation that had its origin back in 1944.  This was Operation Amadeus.  THE DULLES FACTORThis highly secretive operation was part of the
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- TEST --- Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- You are equating homelessness with mental illness. If you had ever spent any time around homeless people you would know better. Some mentally ill people are homeless. Others are not. Some mentally ill people not only live indoors, they even hold political office. Some homeless people are, in fact, mentally ill. Most homeless people are merely broke. A significant proportion are women and children, refugees from battering and abandonment. You really, really ought to do some research into the field before you pontificate. Youre making a major fool of yourself by betraying such ignorance. Besides, I never said anything about institutionalizing the White House as a homeless shelter. I propose we throw out the people who live there and leave the doors unlocked. The homeless people can manage the rest by themselves. They dont need institutions. They need a roof over their heads. Americas greatest shame is that paper sleeps in a palace while people sleep in the street. Any night of the week you can literally see people huddled against the cold in the doorways of bank buildings that are locked shut. This is unconscionable. Any society that allows human beings to suffer needlessly is a sick society. Our institutions should serve us, not the other way around. America needs its reset button hit. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mind Control Murder In Oregon ?
-Caveat Lector- TEST --- "Martin F. Abernathy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.oregonlive.com/news/00/03/st031006.html Teen accused in death seeks tips from 'Happy Face' killer Friday, March 10, 2000 -- By Michael Wilson of The Oregonian staff An Astoria teen who has said voices told him to kill a 7-year-old girl whose body was found under his parents' floorboards wrote a letter to Oregon serial killer Keith "Happy Face" Jesperson seeking advice on his defense strategy, prison life and girls. Harned, 17, wrote the letter from the Clatsop County Jail in Astoria, where he awaits a court ruling on whether he is competent to stand trial. A hearing that included testimony that he heard voices telling him to "kill, kill, kill" ended Tuesday, and a decision from Clatsop County Circuit Judge Philip Nelson is expected next week. Harned's lawyers say the teen is incapable of aiding in his defense. About 135 miles away from Harned's coastal jail cell, Jesperson is serving a life sentence in the Oregon State Penitentiary in Salem for the murders of three young women in Oregon and Washington. Harned faces two counts of aggravated murder in connection with the Feb. 11, 1999, slaying of 7-year-old Ashley Ann Carlson. Police say Harned strangled the girl and buried her under the floorboards of his parents' home. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Telepathic Messages And Murder
-Caveat Lector- T E S T I NG --- "Martin F. Abernathy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.unc.edu/dth/archives/1998/09/091098/ww6.html Suspect May Be Schizophrenic By Emily Adams Staff Writer, The Daily Tar Heel Thursday, September 10, 1998 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- Burden of Proof Nessie? This is a Conspiracy Theory list...the Pope still believes the sun travels about the earth - in the circuit of othe heavens. This is a Conspiracy Theory List.speculation, based on facts, is still theory. As of late Einstein's "theory" is being challenged which original idea was credited to Newton, but nobody cares about that.and further it is said Einstein stole his theory in part from an Italian? I have a conspiracy theory and in fact, on my copyright when asked for new material, I stated it was the conspiracy theory that was new and copyrighted my bible calendar code way back in late 60 period but I copyrighted the theory. You ask people to prove everything they say? My work according to Henry Regnary, a man named Domick Abel, was extremely provocative, and highly original.for I claimed the Mafia got JFK, RFK, and tried to get Teddy based on a bible code used as communications which also was linked to sabotage and KGB. Poked a little fun at the masons - but then so did Charles Manson in Court? Haven't you ever figured out yet what the Masons really are other than patriots in this country who serve one master, now two and that is why Bnai Brith a masonic order not affiliated with American Masonic order unless they arenot accepted, and black masons - some think are not to be trusted, for they serve foreign masters such as Zionism and KGB? Refer to KGB founding their own KKK while people like the Walker spies and Pollard took money to sell out this country and the name of the game is treason. Want a patriot, find an American Mason - and you do find bad lower degree Masons and moles for this order at the top you will find the intelligensia. So losers who have nothing want communism or nationalism - yet all have chance to improve themselves with or without school vouchers. A good IQ helps, but it does not take a nucleara physicist to build a cathedral or sewage system or lay the foundation of a home..it takes real men for after all, we cannot all be computer "geniuses" can we? Have to learn to type first. Saba As George Washington said when he needed someone he could trust - find me a Mason. but watch out for those English Masons or Mossad Bnai Brith and ADl Masons or KGB Masons who are on to the fact that KKK uses Masonic Rituals as did King - who was a Black Mason in cahoots with communists. Would prefer to be ruled by a King or Queen than have a Jessie Jackson or a Lieberman or a Gore attemp to "rule" over me, which they could never do for only thing I respect, is intelligence acd the higher up the ladder you find it, well America was made great by the Giants not the Zionists for you see what Zionism has done to this country. Can I prove all this? Why the hell should I for this is a conspiracy list, but I have plenty of documentation to prove that under Clinton and Gore, this country was being taken for a ride.so all you pore folk out there who want a communist in office, had already had one - Clinton = only he stole from the poor and gave to himself, like his ole buddies Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. And toss in Waco for entertainment for that is show biz. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] So We All Have Written What We Have Written.......
-Caveat Lector- Meaning of INRIfirst time I ever saw this was when Jean Dixon sent me her two books, which she autogrpaphed only she mailed to my boss, for me and in the one book, Gift of Propaganda (pardon, prophecy straight out of Romans 12) she had a prayer card and on it the piciture of Christ with INRI... I have written what I have written, as she had written what she had written only I backed up my words by filing a criminal charge against her for soothsaying without a licenseand it was Goodbye Columbus, for over 10 years she dare not come back or she thought she would be thrown in the slammer .. Now INRI - my family all were Greek, Latin Scholars and knew Hebrew as well for it was for some reason part of their trainingonce the Catholic Church Latin was a chosen language, and you could communicate with a catholic in any country in the world - using a dead language. Made nice code in a sense. So this item I thought someone might enjoy .and inri on the list, wonder what his INRI stands for - or is he what you call ehalted paranoid type? Saba What do the letters "INRI" on the crucifix mean? The letters "INRI" are initials for the Latin title that Pontius Pilate had written over the head of Jesus Christ on the cross (John 19:19). Latin was the official language of the Roman Empire. The words were "Iesus Nazarenvs Rex Ivdaeorvm." Latin uses "I" instead of the English "J", and "V" instead of "U" (i.e., Jesus Nazarenus Rex Judaeorum). The English translation is "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews." The Early Church adopted the first letters of each word of this inscription "INRI" as a symbol. Throughout the centuries INRI has appeared in many paintings of the crucifixion. By the way, Pilate's title for Christ was actually written in three languages. And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin. Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, "Write not, 'The King of the Jews;' but that he said, 'I am King of the Jews'." Pilate answered, "What I have written I have written." -John 19:19-22 (KJV) SABA Note: as I recall Jesus replied "you said it", not I. Author: Paul S. Taylor of Eden Communications Copyright 1998, Eden Communications, All Rights Reserved - except as noted on attached "Usage and Copyright" page that grants ChristianAnswers.Net users generous rights for putting this page to work in their homes, personal witnessing, churches and schools. www.ChristianAnswers.Net Christian Answers Network 1832 S. Macdonald Suite 101 Mesa AZ 85210 Submit your Questions Christian Answers Network HOMEPAGE and DIRECTORY A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Proof
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The burden of proof is on the person who states an alleged fact. If
you can't prove something, don't expect people to believe it.
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:38:34 EST
"Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Mature people don't ask for proof. They find out the truth for
themselves. Prudy
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Re: [CTRL] Proof
In a message dated 1/28/01 1:04:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mature people don't ask for proof. They find out the truth for themselves. Prudy A nice comeback. Typical of the journeyman prevaricator.
Re: [CTRL] Telepathic Messages And Murder
-Caveat Lector- Always wondered Mr. Cone - these neurotransmitters in the brain - electricity..and if a person is overcharged as some are, do they pick up messages or can they be sent messages and be receiving without knowing it? For it has always been my theory that Prayer is nothing other than telepathis communication with God. Some have it and some do not..but if man can create a television to see and hear, and a radio to listen and a camera to take pictures all based on his own image - who created what? So when you feel a little depressed or paranoid, eat a potato or banana - serotonin - why pay a couplel hundred dollars or a pill? Need vitamin Cdoctors now are getting old fashioned = some now say, eat an orange no need to take expensive vitamin? Want amnesia? Want to end up in a strange hotel or run an airplane into a mountain - take some of this jet lag crap. So Melatonin is a natural substance and no patent can be awarded but oh boy, wait till they emake synthetic coal tar melatonin.then you can go to pharmicist and pay $120 for 30 pillsyet all you have to do is maintan proper diet. Want to lose some lard off a fat ass? Lay off the beer and pepsi and coke...you will also cut down on dental bills. So when I saw the light I went once to a Food Health Store, named Spring Wheat and what did they sell there - apple, and oranges, and chili without meat - wonderful creme cheese and anothre cheese sandwich with something on it that looked like grass on raisin nut bread.and all natural vitamins..beautiful face cremes made of apricots and all natural. Then it occured to me, since when was apples and oranges labeled a "health food" as thought it was something unusual? Whatever will be, will be.now we find in Ohio two different schools in different areas, kids getting cancer and luekemia. well I have a little map here showing a transmitter and receiver to do with weather modification program and oh the laser light shows they had and all weather hell broke loosewe have silos buried in the ground and dump sites once owned by feds. So what happened when the kids became ill.suddenly now we find land was sold for $1.00 to schools by the feds and they say at the time they did not know that some of othe stuff dumped on land was a carcinogen. That was in the 60 period; well, I knew it was carcinogen just like the Toluene in air plane and model car glue that killed a lot of little kids - and they use that garbage in dry cleaning and it also can cause cataracts - excessive heat does too, but ever see a person ironing clothese in a dry cleaners with the steam filled Tolune escaping into their eyes? Health Food - plant an apple tree, or pear tree or apricot tree - it is said apricots have anti cancer attributes. So today in the schools Pepsi is given to kids for lunch = rather sold, and the schools take a kick back, for that is what it is... So supercharge with banana or potato - for alla this stuff effects the neurotransmitters to the pineal gland and that pineal gland I believe, is the key to time itself. Down with Pepsi Colalook what it did to Michael Jackson - he looks like something out of Tales from the Darkside only he keeps getting grayer, and grayerand you know once they put some melatonin in a tank with tadpoles and they all turned virtually transparant.. So they still investigate all the mutations of frogs lately but oh how they forget that stuff that causes little babies to be born without arms and legs and little hands sometimes coming from the shoulders? Yet today these bastards are still marketing that crap under a different name? None dare call it murder .or maybe maiming of little unborn babies.. So keep that Pepsi coming and someday we will be a nation of lardos with neurotransmitters receiving messages from satan. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
Re: [CTRL] Proof
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Dear Prudy,
I understand the spirit of what you say, but in truth, plenty of mature
individuals DO ask for proof. It doesn't mean that they won't confirm
through their own research, but it helps to filter out those who have
consciously checked their sources from those others who merely trustfully
recite hearsay.
Each of us hears thousands of second-hand reports daily; no-one has the
reasonable opportunity to confirm each one personally. Asking the immediate
reporter for source citations is one of the chief methods each of us has for
verification, and serves to weed out the obviously untrustworthy from the
getgo.
Jenny Decker
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Subject: [CTRL] Proof
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The burden of proof is on the person who states an alleged fact. If
you can't prove something, don't expect people to believe it.
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"Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Mature people don't ask for proof. They find out the truth for
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[CTRL] Fwd: Nuclear Bomb Iraq
Oh but do not hurt the corn and oil and wine? So they go ahead and blow up all the oil wells anhey all they will have is a pile of old rocks which they call "sacred"... But then why did Israelies want to build tunnels under this one old Rock..maybe looking for King Solomons Mines? So if there must be war, let the go to war..but leave me and mine out of it. ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRAQ, THE BOMB, AND THE COMING OF BUSH AND SHARON MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 1/28: As war clouds gather in the Middle East public opinion is being prepared for a possible regional war that could likely include a combined Western/Israeli effort to take out the weapons of mass destruction in Syria, Iraq and Iran. There are some credible analysts who believe the plot might be even thicker, including some kind of secret plan not only to finally topple Saddam but to use the moment of Middle East restructing to forceably "resettle" large numbers of Palestinian refugees in Iraq -- as fanciful as this idea seems to many others. The Telegraph in London is one of the newspapers leading the charge. Over the weekend the newspaper headlined a story that Iraq now has two functional nuclear bombs with more on the way. With the right-wing nationalists already in power in the U.S., and Sharon and the racists coming to power in Israel, the year just begun may be one for the military history books as were '48, '56, '67, '73, and '82 in the past. These three articles from The Telegraph in the week past. SADDAM HAS MADE TWO ATOMIC BOMBS SAYS IRAQI DEFECTOR By Jessica Berry The Telegraph, UK -28 January: SADDAM HUSSEIN has two fully operational nuclear bombs and is working to construct others, an Iraqi defector has told The Telegraph. The defector, a military engineer who fled Iraq a year after United Nations arms inspectors left the country, says that he helped to oversee the completion of the weapons programme. He is currently in hiding in Europe. International nuclear officials are investigating his evidence, which contradicts recent reports that the Iraqi dictator's plans were still at a preparatory stage. Saddam's efforts to build atomic weapons were delayed by the UN Special Commission (Unscom) inspectors who were forced to leave in November 1998, but scientists resumed the work immediately after their departure. According to the defector, who cannot be named for security reasons, bombs are being built in Hemrin in north-eastern Iraq, near the Iranian border. Last week, the defector said: "There are at least two nuclear bombs which are ready for use. Before the UN inspectors came, there were 47 factories involved in the project. Now there are 64." The information has alarmed security experts, who were aware only that the area around Hemrin was well-guarded. The defector said: "The area is restricted to the Special Security Organisation. Some of it is under the control of the military industrialisation ministry which is in charge of building up Saddam's weapons arsenal, but one area is entirely under the control of the nuclear energy organisation. They are digging shelters there." The nuclear programme is shrouded in secrecy. The chain of command leads directly to the presidential palace and Saddam's closest aide, Abed Hmoud, a Baath Party stalwart who runs the Iraqi dictator's private office. According to the defector, General Raad Ismail, the head of the Committee for the Use of Nuclear Weapons, answers directly to a Dr Khaled, the director-general of the al-Athir factory, who oversees the final stages of construction of weapons. The factory was attacked in air raids by Britain and the United States in 1998, but has since been rebuilt. Also involved is Awad al-Benck, who is responsible for procurement in the presidential office. Involvement of such senior men means that the programme is top secret. The defector says that apart from the scientists, only four or five people know what is happening. One security expert said: "This is vital information. The fact that General Ismail is involved can only mean that the programme is complete." Melissa Fleming, a spokeswoman for the UN-founded International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, said that the IAEA was unable to confirm that the Iraqi dictator was complying with Unscom resolutions. Mrs Fleming said: "I will bring this to the attention of the members of the agency immediately. We want to investigate this
[CTRL] Fw: [piml] The American dialectic
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Howard Rothenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.fan.rush-lim Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: [piml] The American dialectic FRIDAY JANUARY 26, 2001 By Dr. Samuel L. Blumenfeld 2001 WorldNetDaily.com The dialectic that drives American politics was quite visible on the inauguration platform. To the left of the Bushes sat the socialists and Gramscian commies: Bill, who burned 80-or-so men, women and children at Waco and handed Elian over to Castro; his sulking partner, Al Gore, whose family owes much of its wealth to Kremlin agent Armand Hammer; and Chris Dodd, senator from Connecticut who spent years defending the Sandinista communists of Nicaragua. They held the White House for eight years, and now their reign was over. Just to have survived them is an achievement. On their right was George W. Bush, born-again Christian, basically conservative; Dick Cheney, one of the most conservative men who ever sat in Congress; and a whole lot of other people on the side of the Angels. Both ministers, Billy Graham who gave the invocation and the black minister from Houston who gave the benediction, invoked the name of Jesus Christ at the close of their prayers. President Bush took the oath of office with his hand on the Bible. His address had the spiritual tone associated with our religious heritage. After eight years of Clinton debauchery, it was quite a change. Even the presence of the chief justice of the Supreme Court administering the oath had symbolic meaning. It was he who brought the dispute over the vote count in Florida to an end, thus confirming Bush's victory. This was a peaceful moment for the dialectic, a brief moment of rest. The system demands it. Although the dialectic is the ongoing, endless conflict between the two philosophies of life and government, there are rules whereby the two sides conduct themselves. Clinton is always trying to stretch the rules, thus his farewell speech was really a critique of the new Bush administration. He's a dialectician down to his fingernails. The new president didn't spend his time criticizing the Clinton administration. He thanked Clinton for his service to the nation. Bush plays by the rules, and he does so graciously. He won in Florida even though the mobs shouting insults at him during the parade didn't think so. They are also part of the dialectic, the more ugly part. Conservative citizens act differently. They brush up on their Second Amendment rights. What is the dialectic? It is the means by which the far left moves our society slowly but inexorably in its direction -- toward socialism. The dialectical process was conceived in the early 19th century by German philosopher, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831), a pantheist, who believed in a world soul that was using the dialectic process to achieve its own perfection. Since the human race was part of the world soul, our history was also part of this ongoing dialectical process, or conflict, between the thesis and the antithesis to form a new synthesis, which then becomes the new thesis. Karl Marx (1818-1883) junked the spiritual aspect of Hegel's dialectic, and attached it to a purely materialistic, godless view of the universe -- hence the creation of "dialectical materialism," the process whereby the human race inches toward communism. In American politics, the dialecticians of the left view the thesis as the conservative status quo, the antithesis as the socialists and communists opposing the status quo, and the synthesis as the new status quo after the conservatives have compromised and moved toward the left. That is why no conservative administration has been able to undo any of the liberal programs and why our federal and state governments keep growing in power and scope, imposing more and more restrictions on American freedom. A case in point is the Department of Education, which was established by liberals in the Carter administration. Attempts by conservatives to close it down have been thwarted time and again until conservatives have become resigned to its continued existence. What prevents Republicans from breaking the dialectical cycle is their lack of understanding of how it works and their lack of courage. Politics is supposed to be the art of compromise. But with the dialectic at work, compromise means surrender on the installment plan. The Bible, of course, teaches absolutes, for there are no dialectical compromises possible with God's law. You may disobey His law, but you can't change it. That is also true of our Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Although the left would like to get rid of them, the best they can do is dialectically tear them apart. It is only the vigilance of patriotic gun owners who have
Re: [CTRL] George Bush's vandalism of the White House computers
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[CTRL] Fw: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also Trashed White House
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Reagan D. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WorldNetDaily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 2:07 AM Subject: WND: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also Trashed White House A top Democrat's charge that aides to former president George Bush trashed the White House before leaving in 1993, much the same way Clinton administration staff did last Saturday, was contradicted Friday morning by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell. "I covered the Clintons coming in," Mitchell told radioman Don Imus. "There was a lot of bitterness because the hard drives were missing from some of the computers." On Thursday, ranking Senate Judiciary Committee Democrat Pat Leahy alleged that aides to Bush Sr. "changed a number of the computers around so that it would take them a long time to have them reconfigured." ( "I think it was wrong when the Bush people did it," added Leahy. "I think it's wrong when the Clinton people did it." But Mitchell went on to dispel any notion that former Bush aides had deliberately tampered with White House computers to sabotage the incoming Clinton administration. "It turned out that the missing hard drives were taken by special prosecutors who were looking into a Bush campaign, a Bush White House issue," Mitchell told Imus. In contrast, the NBC newswoman said that White House trashing by Clinton aides was "apparently widespread." "You know, pranks and stuff, but also some stuff that was quite vicious," Mitchell said. Clinton aides reportedly cut several computer cables and phone lines, overturned furniture and sprayed hallways with graffiti. Leahy also alleged that aides to Bush Sr. had "laminated" his photo to a number of White House chairs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/1/_/_/_/980665645/ -_- visit and read WorldNetDaily at http://www.WND.com/ Get the list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe if you want to, or must at [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Unnatural disaster: Deregulated California utilities
-Caveat Lector- Joshua2 wrote: Yah definately. I wouldn't mind nuke power, but only with certain conditions. One of those conditions is that the nuke waste be buried under YOUR home. I guess you ARE dumb. Didn't the article say that these greedy corporate oinkers took several key plants OFFLINE? Regardless of the fact, that those four plants, went offline for routine scheduled maintenance, there remains the issue; that no new plants have been developed in over 10 years here in CA! The population has continued to grow in this state at a rate of ~4%/year. Simple math reveals that, unless you increase production there will be less. So pay through the nose for what is left!! As far as socialized medicine, its already here in the form of Medicaid and HMO, ultimately you get what you pay for,rationed care. I feel sorry for you. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Woman of the Century
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Subject: Jane Fonda Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison - the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. He fell to and touched the Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col.still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1973-75, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group,too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms.Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col.Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968,and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. Charles (Skip) Klingman Asst. Professor of Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK 73096 (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795 If having Jane Fonda named one of the woman of the century bothers you as much as it does me, then mail this to everyone on your list.
[CTRL] Sorry ...
-Caveat Lector- For all the forwarding addresses - I would have removed them if I had been paying attention. Regards to all. BB A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush may cut a deal with Iran
http://www.worldtribune.com/tout-6.html Bush may cut a deal with Iran SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Monday, January 22, 2001 WASHINGTON — As Russia advances its own strategic ties with Iran, the Bush administration wants to encourage a dialogue with Teheran on trade and regional security while cracking down on neighboring Iraq.Administration officials said President George Bush will quietly launch an effort to improve relations with the Islamic republic. But they said Bush will make it clear that this is dependent on Teheran scaling down its missile and nonconventional programs and ending support for terrorism.The officials said Bush will require Iran in any effort to crack down on Iraq, Middle East Newsline reported. This would include Iranian help for opposition activities as well increased supervision of the Gulf waters to prevent Iraqi oil smuggling.Meanwhile, leading strategists say Moscow will no longer pay much attention to U.S. concerns regarding Russia's military relationship with Iran.Russian strategists predict that after years of coordinating policy with Washington, Russia will restore its military ties with Iran regardless of U.S. objections. They said the Russian goal will be to advance its national interests rather than confront the United States.Alexander Konovalov, president of the Institute of Strategic Assessments, said Russia is prepared to pay the price of U.S. sanctions in advancing military ties with Iran. "It can be said the transaction with Iran has been restored, the transaction to sell arms," Konovalov told a Moscow news conference. "Our desire will be not to do something pleasant for the United States but to pursue our national interest as our leadership understands it."Konovalov, who is also a professor at Moscow State University, envisioned the prospect that the United States would end commercial space cooperation with Russia. But he said Washington has few pressure points on Moscow."True, there are many risks because we may be thrown out of the International Space Station, it may be decided not to use our Proton missiles to deliver payloads," Konovalov said. "Of course the Americans have more possibilities to exert economic influence on us than vice versa. But these possibilities, really, are not so numerous. You see, many of the channels linking us were destroyed in recent times."Strategists said Russia will join with other countries that object to U.S. policy. Moscow's major ally in this effort will be China.Konstantinovich Oznobishchev, director of the Institute of Strategic Assessments, said Russia will have to choose between close relations with Washington or those with Teheran. Oznobishchev said the choice will be whether Moscow wants Western financial and technological aid or Iranian arms sales."We simply have to choose what is more important to us," he said, "the several billion that we will get from the sale of weapons or cooperation in the field of high technology we can well count on or the prospect of easier access to loans without which we cannot run our budget." Secretary of State Colin Powell said the administration will be reviewing policy toward Iran. Powell said he envisions changes in policy that will serve U.S. interests in the Middle East."We have serious problems in our relationship with Iran, I'm not going to minimize that," Powell said. "But, at the same time, we can see in recent years that there is change happening."Iranian officials said they will be carefully monitoring changes in U.S. policy. Monday, January 22, 2001
[CTRL] California's Deregulation Disaster
http://www.thenation.com/docPrint.mhtml?i=20010212s=wasserman California's Deregulation Disaster by HARVEY WASSERMAN Blackouts, brownouts and soaring electricity rates have defined the political landscape of California since last spring. They've transformed the phrase "utility deregulation" into a household epithet. They've stopped in its tracks a nationwide wave of electricity restructuring that has already claimed two dozen states and was about to sweep the rest. And they've helped create a crisis whose economic and ecological shock waves will carry deep into the new century. The roots of this unnatural disaster lie in the corporate boardrooms of the utility companies now on the brink of bankruptcy. It was their mismanagement and greed that led directly to some of the greatest miscalculations in US business history. Those missteps, and their impact, were clearly predicted by consumer and environmental activists, who fought to prevent them. "This was a catastrophe we all saw coming," says Dan Berman, co-author of Who Owns the Sun? "But the power companies had an agenda to push and the money to foist it on the public. Now we all reap the whirlwind." California's dereg disaster began in 1996, when the state's three dominant utilities banded together to force on their ratepayers "the largest corporate ripoff in American business history," as Ralph Nader has put it [see Wasserman, "The Last Energy War," March 16, 1998]. At the time, Pacific Gas Electric (then the nation's largest privately owned utility), San Diego Gas Electric and Southern California Edison were caught in a squeeze between their big industrial customers, who were threatening to generate power on their own, and the burden of their own bad investments in obsolete generators, mainly nuclear power plants. They were also tired of having their rates regulated by the state's ninety-year-old Public Utility Commission. What they wanted was to cash out of those bad investments, keep their big customers and make profits at will, without regulation. So they proposed the following: Regulation of distribution lines will stay intact. We will separate the business of generating power from the business of distributing it to the public. We will spin off much if not all of our generating capacity (though in fact much of this was done only on paper, with power plants merely being transferred to the distribution companies' parent corporations). Then, as pure distribution companies, we will compete with other resellers for customers, who can choose their suppliers and even purchase "green" energy from companies selling wind and solar. Competition will rule. Prices will go down. The price tag for Californians? Somewhere between $20 billion and $28.5 billion in upfront "stranded costs," i.e., direct paybacks to the utilities for their bad generating plants. These charges would be levied through "transition fees" and other surcharges, buried in customers' bills but adding up to as much as 30 percent of monthly payments. During the time it would take to pay back those bad investments, retail prices would be frozen. The California Public Utility Commission would also get $89 million in ratepayer money to promote the new scheme, giving utilities a leg up on whatever competition might materialize. A bill, AB 1890, was drafted in SoCalEd's offices. After a few perfunctory hearings, the legislature passed it unanimously and Governor Pete Wilson, then a presidential candidate, eagerly signed it. Some consumer and environmental groups were furious about a wide range of issues, most notably the reactor bailouts, which they worried (correctly) would prolong the operating life of deteriorating nukes and other polluters. So in 1998, as the bill was taking effect, a broad coalition put a repeal on the ballot. Surmounting virtually impossible odds, the coalition gathered more than 700,000 signatures in less than five months. Initial polls indicated the measure would be a close call, but the utilities spent $40 million, calling in their chits with labor, ethnic and other organizations around the state. The repeal went down, getting 27 percent of the vote. But in their haste to cash out, SoCalEd and PGE made some critical miscalculations. Most important was their assumption that there would always be a surplus of cheap wholesale electricity. So they sold off too much of their generating capacity and had too little of their own supply at a time when rates were still frozen. Then came a hot summer and a cold winter. Natural-gas prices shot up. Some key generators went down. Storms knocked out transmission lines. The nukes had problems. The utilities found themselves at the mercy of independent producers who'd snapped up generating capacity and could manipulate the wholesale market. Having dismantled key efficiency programs, the utilities now realized that their customers, buying power at fixed costs, had little incentive to conserve. So demand quickly outstripped cheap
[CTRL] NW: Can Bush Undo a Pardon?
-Caveat Lector- Can Bush Undo a Pardon? Rollback: The new team eyes ways to keep the heat on Marc Rich By Daniel Klaidman and Mark Hosenball NEWSWEEK Feb. 5 issue Bill Clinton had done it one last time: left the GOP hopping mad. When the exiting president issued his eleventh-hour pardon of Marc Rich, the fugitive financier living in Switzerland, Republicans immediately went on the attack, accusing Clinton of abusing power and once again diminishing the dignity of the Oval Office. EVEN MORE FRUSTRATING: there was nothing they could do about it. The pardon was a done deal the moment Clinton signed it. Or so it appeared. Just days after the pardon was announced, NEWSWEEK has learned, a handful of Bush Justice Department lawyers began searching for a way to block it. Young and zealous, they hit the law books, convinced they could find something that would give their new boss the power to undo the damage. They found what they were looking for in a series of obscure, 19th-century court cases. According to the Bush lawyers interpretation, a pardon is much like a warrantit must be served on the person or his lawyer to be valid. Some of Clintons pardons, though signed by the president, hadnt been processed at the Justice Department and awaited delivery. Richs was among them. The discovery touched off a weekend debate among Justice lawyers. Couldor shouldBush order the department not to deliver Richs pardon to his lawyer, thereby invalidating it? It was more than just an academic debate. What would the political fallout be if the new president simply brushed aside the judgment of his predecessor? Some argued Bush shouldnt even try, since it would inevitably touch off a media and legal hailstorm that would distract the president from his agenda. Then again, the move might enjoy bipartisan supportand could endear Bush to prosecutors. By Saturday night, sources told NEWSWEEK, the lawyers were still hunkered down, arguing the pros and cons. CLINTON HANGOVER It was the latest twist in a week during which the Clinton hangover competed hard for attention with Bushs first days. The former president may have retired to New York, but he left behind enough controversy and ill will to keep him front and center on talk TVand Capitol Hillfor weeks. Rep. Dan Burton, the conservative Indiana Republican who made a career of investigating Clintons questionable behavior, fueled the controversy, announcing he would begin an official inquiry of the Rich pardon. The facts of the case certainly provoked questions. Why would Clinton want to help an indicted tax swindler living on the lam? It probably didnt hurt that Richs ex-wife had given generously to Bill and Hillary Clintons campaigns. But according to Clinton aides, it was former White House counsel Jack Quinn, hired by Rich, who persuaded the president to give Rich the noddespite opposition from Justice Department officials. Now Burton and other Republicans want to know why he made the list. Burton has already sent a letter to the Justice Department asking for documents on the case, and has requested copies of Quinns billing records. Quinn says hell cooperate with any investigation. A spokesman added Quinn was so moved by Richs arguments that he did not charge him for his work over the last several months. Clinton is also taking heat for shortening the prison sentences of four men convicted of swindling the government out of millions of dollars. The men, Hasidic Jews from New Square, a small village outside New York City, had set up a phony religious school and used it to steal federal grants. Republicans now accuse Hillary of buying the towns votes with promises of shortened jail time for their brethren. In November, New Square had voted overwhelmingly for Hillary, while surrounding Hasidic towns voted 20 to 1 for her opponent. Last August, Mrs. Clinton visited New Square and met with its spiritual leader, Rabbi David Twersky. But her spokesman, Howard Wolfson, insists she first heard about the imprisoned men after the election, when Twersky visited the Oval Office shortly before Christmas to push the president for clemency. WHITE HOUSE IN RUINS? There was one small consolation for Clinton: his staff may not have trashed the White House quite as badly as the Bushies claimed earlier in the week. They said they found the place in ruins, with power cords ripped from machines and furniture destroyed. In fact, aside from a few lame attempts at humorWs were removed from some computer keyboardsthe offices were intact, as Clinton transition staff hastened to announce. The specter of scandalous behavior, the justifications and spinmaybe private life wont be all that different for Clinton after all. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] Fw: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also TrashedWhite House
-Caveat Lector- She married Alan Greenspan a few years ago. Wadda expect? Michael Pugliese -Original Message- From: Arthur Hickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:57 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also TrashedWhite House -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Reagan D. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WorldNetDaily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 2:07 AM Subject: WND: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also Trashed White House A top Democrat's charge that aides to former president George Bush trashed the White House before leaving in 1993, much the same way Clinton administration staff did last Saturday, was contradicted Friday morning by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell. "I covered the Clintons coming in," Mitchell told radioman Don Imus. "There was a lot of bitterness because the hard drives were missing from some of the computers." On Thursday, ranking Senate Judiciary Committee Democrat Pat Leahy alleged that aides to Bush Sr. "changed a number of the computers around so that it would take them a long time to have them reconfigured." ( "I think it was wrong when the Bush people did it," added Leahy. "I think it's wrong when the Clinton people did it." But Mitchell went on to dispel any notion that former Bush aides had deliberately tampered with White House computers to sabotage the incoming Clinton administration. "It turned out that the missing hard drives were taken by special prosecutors who were looking into a Bush campaign, a Bush White House issue," Mitchell told Imus. In contrast, the NBC newswoman said that White House trashing by Clinton aides was "apparently widespread." "You know, pranks and stuff, but also some stuff that was quite vicious," Mitchell said. Clinton aides reportedly cut several computer cables and phone lines, overturned furniture and sprayed hallways with graffiti. Leahy also alleged that aides to Bush Sr. had "laminated" his photo to a number of White House chairs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/1/_/_/_/980665645/ -_- visit and read WorldNetDaily at http://www.WND.com/ Get the list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe if you want to, or must at [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] Sierra Times: World's Leading Jackbooted Thug
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/starticles/2001/jan/arwh012101.htm World's Leading Jack-Booted Thug! by Wayne Hicks, with Henrietta Bowman Published: 01.21.01 The death of an Arkansas man may be only the latest in a long line of eliminations performed by a rogue BATF Agent. Carl Ray Wilson, who was sixty years old at the time of his death on January 12th, was a known felon. He had been sentenced to prison twice - once in Oklahoma, and once in Arkansas. He was paroled in 1968. Carl had been known in his younger days as something of an outlaw, "the dynamite man," and was thought of by some as a white supremacist. He was once a suspect in a murder case, although he was never charged due to the fact that he had a realistic and apparently honest alibi. He'd even been accused of being an accomplice in another murder because he had provided a small bottle of explosive to a man, and later learned that the man and a woman who had been with him used it to try to kill a woman. He wound up as a prosecution witness, but was not charged - neither the prosecutors, nor the court believed he was guilty of a willful participation in the crime. But apparently one man did. Very early on Friday, January 12th of this year, BATF Agent Bill Buford led local police and sheriff's deputies to Wilson's rural home. He had obtained a search warrant, apparently authorizing a "no-knock" search of Wilson's property. A "no-knock" search means that officers are authorized to enter the home by surprise or stealth, but must still announce themselves and their lawful intent to execute the warrant. Buford and his team, which included SWAT Team members from the local Sheriff's office entered by stealth. They were already inside the house at 6:30 that morning when Carl Wilson's alarm clock went off. Until that moment, no one inside the home knew they were there. According to Wilson's wife and a niece who was staying with them, shots were fired immediately after an alarm clock rang. Mrs. Wilson, who was sleeping in another room, and the niece ran to Carl's room and were thrown to the floor by the officers, guns shoved forcibly against their heads, while other agents shouted at Wilson - who had been shot seven times - to "Get up!" Mrs. Wilson could only see her husband's arm from where she lay on the floor, and agents repeatedly shouted at her, "Don't look at us!" and "Don't you look around here!" She saw Carl try to raise himself from the bed, fall back, and heard him say weakly, "I can't" No attempt was made to get medical attention for Carl. The agents stood and watched as he bled to death in his own bed, wearing only his underwear as they joked about what to have for lunch. After Carl had ceased moving and no sign of life could be found, a call was finally made for someone to remove his body. Less than two hours after the raid began, Mrs. Wilson and her niece were alone in the house. There was no "crime scene" tape warning people to stay clear of the area - no attempt had been made to recover the spent shell casings, or any of the dozens of bullets that littered the place. Even the 44 caliber slug that allegedly bounced off the Kevlar vest of a local deputy was left behind for Mrs. Wilson to clean up. Apparently someone decided there would be no need to analyze the crime scene, do ballistics tests or conduct a fatal police shooting incident investigation. As far as the family knows, no photos were taken, and the bed where Carl died lay as it was when his body was removed from it, with a perfect outline of the upper half of a man's body, drawn in blood. Agent Buford made a public statement that same day. In it, he said that Wilson began shooting at his team as they approached the house, and that while he was constrained from revealing the nature of the search, it involved drugs and explosives. He also stated that he was certain that Carl "knew we were officers." All of these statements were apparently false - and Buford would have known that when he made them. Let's take them one by one. First, Buford said Wilson fired at the officers as they approached the house. This is obviously a bald-faced lie because we now know without doubt that Carl died in his bed - he never got near a door or window. In fact, the five shots that were fatal to Carl were not fired at point blank range, from within his bedroom - they were fired through a wall that divided his bedroom from the kitchen, and when Mrs. Wilson came running, officers actually demanded to know why she wasn't in the bed with him. They thought she was, you see. Second: Buford said the search involved drugs. Well, in the first place, drugs had never figured very big in Carl's life. He'd never had a drug charge, nor had any of his friends or family ever known him to be interested. And in the second place, a copy of the warrant was left with members of his family and specifically did NOT mention drugs. In fact, the only thing it mentioned, according to
Re: [CTRL] LAT: The Conscience of a Pentecostal
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps the Democrats and all the who oppose Ashcroft for AG should take a look at what the Constitution says about what there doing to Ashcroft because of his religious beliefs. Article VI All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. -Original Message- From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: [CTRL] LAT: The Conscience of a Pentecostal -Caveat Lector- Sunday, January 28, 2001 http://www.latimes.com/print/opinion/20010127/t08151.html The Conscience of a Pentecostal By MARTIN E. MARTY CHICAGO--Some defenders of former Missouri Sen. John Ashcroft, President George W. Bush's nominee to be attorney general, say he is attacked because he is a person of religious faith. That is not accurate. Most citizens are religious, and most public officials profess a faith. What critics have questioned is whether the specific content of Ashcroft's faith, and his manner of expressing it, might compli- cate his work as attorney general. During his confirmation hearings, he told the Senate Judiciary Committee that "as a man of faith, I take my word and my integrity seriously." That stance, Ashcroft said, means that he will enforce the laws "as they are written" and not enforce his "personal preferences." Also, it "means advancing the national interest, not advocating my personal interest." The words "preferences" and "interest" are terribly weak. A man of faith like Ashcroft is guided by convictions grounded in profound belief, not preferences. His commitments go far beyond "personal interest." By choosing softer words, Ashcroft hoped to make himself more salable to skeptical senators and the American public. But Ashcroft's "preferences" are not what led Bush to nominate him to be attorney general. The new administration needed someone unassailably acceptable to the far-right Republican constituency, notably conservative evangelical Christians. That constituency does not regard Ashcroft's positions on abortion, gun possession, homosexuality, and the size and scope of the federal government as mere preferences. They represent God's will and way. Ashcroft's posture represents an extreme version of a familiar American dilemma. For example, if, on religious grounds, he thinks that abortion is murder, can he with integrity enforce laws that permit such murder? Public officials, including Cabinet members, have often faced such a dilemma. In 1915, Woodrow Wilson's secretary of state, William Jennings Bryan, then an avowed pacifist, followed his conscience and resigned when he saw the president drawing the nation into World War I. Resigning is not the only way some officials face issues where private faith and public duty clash. In 1984, former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo delivered a classic speech at Notre Dame that disturbed anti-abortion foes. He drew on a version of Catholic teaching that made it possible for him to claim that a Catholic could oppose abortion in private life but be called in public to support laws that permit it. C. Everett Koop, a physician with deep evangelical convictions, had to remind the Christian right, whenever it disapproved of his policies and administration, that he was "called"--good Calvinist language--to be the nation's surgeon general, not chaplain general. Now comes Ashcroft, a firm and proud member of the Assemblies of God, the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world. Pentecostals are new to high government posts. According to historian Edith L. Blumhofer and sociologist Margaret M. Poloma, Pentecostals tend to be "apolitical." Yet, many have recently been drawn into politics because of their opposition to abortion. The American public, according to polls, consistently favor public servants who have "integrity" and promote morality. They go on to say that, ordinarily, such morality is grounded in religion. Ashcroft, in speeches to Christian conservative groups, has suggested that the grounding must be in religion, an
Re: [CTRL] Unnatural disaster: Deregulated California utilities
-Caveat Lector- "Theodor Parada, MD" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Joshua2 wrote: Yah definately. I wouldn't mind nuke power, but only with certain conditions. One of those conditions is that the nuke waste be buried under YOUR home. I guess you ARE dumb. Didn't the article say that these greedy corporate oinkers took several key plants OFFLINE? Regardless of the fact, that those four plants, went offline for routine scheduled maintenance, there remains the issue; that no new plants have been developed in over 10 years here in CA! The population has continued to grow in this state at a rate of ~4%/year. Simple math reveals that, unless you increase production there will be less. So pay through the nose for what is left!! Ah, now you get it. It's called manipulating demand. Extortion. As far as socialized medicine, its already here in the form of Medicaid and HMO, ultimately you get what you pay for,rationed care. And if you can't pay, then you deserve to die. I feel sorry for you. Thank you for feeling sorry for me. It makes a big difference in my life. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: How Ashcroft Poisoned his Son's Mind
-Caveat Lector- http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=1107 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [BRC-NEWS] An Anarchist View of Bush, Jr.
-Caveat Lector- January 27, 2001 An Anarchist View of the Presidency of Bush, Jr. By Brian Oliver Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anarchists have a saying: "No matter who you vote for, the government will get in." For the 2000 Presidential Election this adage needs a little revision: "No matter who you voted for, Bush got in." It is true that anarchists have proclaimed, for centuries now, the folly of humans entrusting themselves into the guidance of nation-states. It is true that we see nation- states as no longer benefiting humanity in any meaningful way; we feel they serve, rather, to impede the free development of humanity's powers, corralling people into regimented lives of misspent energy in the service of more powerful humans. Nation-states are mazes of man-made laws that ensure some powerful people will be able to rule over others, and that an economic system that safely perpetuates this sort of hierarchy will function indefinitely, all at public expense. So it is that when George W. Bush assumed the mantle of President of the USA, to many anarchists it was the coronation of just another figurehead, replacing all the other figureheads of the past, who, like so many inter- changeable parts, simply ensure that the nation-state will lurch forward as a legitimate social phenomenon. What's so remarkable about George W. Bush, then, if he is merely the inheritor of an office that anarchists see as illegitimate no matter how it is won? What's remarkable is that, even by the standards of those who do accept states, and who think rulers are tolerable inasmuch as they are popularly chosen - even by these minimal standards, George W. Bush falls short of the mark of acceptability. With a disarmingly dopey, and even playful, demeanor, the unelected Bush waltzed into the highest political office in the land, serenaded by the vapidity of Ricky Martin, Lee Greenwood, and other symbols of cultural mediocrity, in a showbiz extravaganza inauguration. And while his outward appearances so far have been marked by speeches consisting largely of vague platitudes and vacuous, nice-sounding political buzz phrases, he has been hard at work behind closed doors, signing a flurry of executive orders and appointing reactionary cabinet members. These actions betray his true intentions more than any lip service he has paid to being a "uniter" and a "compassionate conservative." BEDTIME FOR DEMOCRACY Even by the logic that allows American power to credibly refer to the country as a representative democracy - a republic - the Bush presidency represents a step backward. It represents a step backward to a time when coteries of aristocrats installed leaders into power openly, and the public accepted it because such was their lot in life. As people in history became more unmanageable, more "curious and arrogant" about the machinations of the State (to para- phrase a statement often quoted by Noam Chomsky), elites felt compelled to ensure that their representatives were chosen through more indirect, less noticeable means. Campaign finance, saturation of political ads across all kinds of media, control over the Federal Election Commission, the Electoral College - these are some of the indirect ways that elites ultimately retain their power over the country today. The placing of Bush and his big business administration into power shows that the business community feels confident enough to step out of the shadows and openly place into office one of their representatives, even without the public ratification that used to be, at least superficially, necessary. What are some of the reasons that the Bush presidency fails to carry any legitimacy, even given the criteria for assuming power that is inherent to a republic? * Shortly after the election in November, 2000, it was estimated by most that Al Gore, Bush's main opponent, had won the national popular vote by about 300,000 votes. In December the New York Times, Associated Press, and others came out with figures that revealed this to be short of the mark: Gore had actually won the national popular vote by at least 500,000, they reported, after all state returns had been certified. * Bush had the largest war chest of any presidential candidate in history. Wall Street and other sectors of the moneyed elite backed him overwhelmingly. His loss of the Presidency would have amounted to a failed investment for them. As the most well-connected of candidates, and with so much of an investment riding on his success, he had the benefit of society's most powerful as allies, able to pull strings to help him come through when things looked grim. To wit: Business Week's December 11 issue stated that "Bush has hooks everywhere. He has Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, who certified his election two weeks ago and who just happened to be his state campaign co-chairman. He has his brother, the
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda canard
-Caveat Lector- http://128.242.205.65/inboxer/outrage/fonda.htm Hanoi'd with Jane Claim: After a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured. Status: True. Example: [Collected on the Internet, 1999] When I was at Camp Pendleton receiving combat corpsman training, I noticed that the pickup truck belonging to the gunnery sergeant in charge of our training was adorned with bumper stickers containing extremely unflattering remarks about Jane Fonda. I also noticed a few referred to Ms. Fonda and Vietnam, but at the time I honestly had no idea why. Being an E-5 and close to rank to our E-7 gunny, after a training rotation one afternoon I decided to ask him about those stickers, and what they had to do with Fonda. He muttered a few obscenities and proceeded to tell me the story. Fonda, he said, became a traitor during the Vietnam War -- a war in which "gunny" had served two tours and for which he had received three Purple Hearts (which is why he enjoyed training Navy corpsmen to be Marine Corps combat corpsmen -- they'd saved his life a time or two). The following excerpts are not "gunny's" words, but when received them in an e-mail recently, it reminded me of his story. And, as ABC's Barbara Walters prepares to honor the traitorous Jane Fonda during Walters' "100 years of great women" program soon, I thought the American people needed to hear this story again. You see, Fonda isn't just exercise videos and the third wheel in "Nine to Five" (the movie). * * * * * * * "There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions. "In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School, a colonel, was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison -- the Hanoi Hilton. Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off -- which sent that officer berserk. "In '78, the AF colonel still suffered from double vision -- permanently grounding him -- from the Vietnamese officer's frenzied application of a wooden baton. "From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was 347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd spent 6 [product] years in the Hilton -- the first three of which he was listed as MIA. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit. "They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like, 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and, 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?'" "Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of notes. "Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four. "For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs, including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on charges of treason. I don't know that they used it, but the charge of 'Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference' would also seem appropriate. Her obvious 'granting of aid and comfort to the enemy' alone should've been sufficient for the treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally charged with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich and famous. "I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry. "Part of our shortfall is ignorance: Most don't know such actions ever took place. "The only addition I might add to these sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some air base or another where 'zaps' of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied." And there is this account: "I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- You are welcome to sleep on the street. On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:55:50 -0800 Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Would Leahy be saying this if it were HIS house being trashed? He's just one more American. That means that it's exactly as much his as it is yours. His taxes, as well as your own, pay for the clean up. Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless shelter. As long as anybody has to sleep in the street, no politician, particularly the president, deserves a roof over his head. Neither do we. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker?
-Caveat Lector- Hold on a sec, are you saying that if you dont agree with the UN then you shouldnt have to agree with them, and do what the world community says ? The 5 major powers of the UN are USA, UK, FRANCE, RUSSIA, CHINA you tell me which one of these countries is muslim ? in fact USA and its puppy UK are more incilined to take the Israeli stand point. I dont think Russia is muslim, their mainly christian and so is France. china is a completly differnt ball game, but it still aint muslim. So the notion that the UN is mainly muslim isnt correct. If the jews werent running the White house then i bet Israel woulda been called a rouge state ages ago. From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:31:09 -0500 -Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- what ? the UN found him DIRECTLY responsible Israel had found him INDIRECTLY responsible Yes, you are right about the UN. Israelis don't pay much attention to the UN. And for good reason too. The UN has MANY Muslim states as members, and has many other states which need Muslim oil. I wouldn't exactly call it an unbiassed body. But the point is that the massacre was carried out AGAINST his direct orders according to a Phalangist participant in the massacre. and i dont think the country that he fights for is gonna punish him either. No they will not. He saved Israel from military destruction in the Yom Kippur War. Instead he will probably be the next Prime Minister. That will be interesting. just look at the way the guy that killed that 10 year old got away with it. Killers should fry. J2 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:20:04 -0500 -Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- What are you on man ? Ariel Sharon, was found directly responsible for massacres of palestinians in UN shelters. Actally, he was found INDIRECTLY responsible. The killings were done against his direct orders by a Syrian opperative who was a Christian Phalangist. If you want to know more about this, see... *From Israel to Damascus* on the Net. A book written by one of the Phalangist militiamen who actually did the killing. Joshua2 Mere civilans just trying to survive in UN encampments, when along comes 'the buldozer'. It wasnt even 2 or 20 people that he was responsible for killing, the total tally reached the hundreds. The next time you see Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon talking politely to Ted Koppel on "Nightline," I want you to remember that behind that phony smile is the conscience of a killer. He's the premeditated murderer of U.S. diplomats/hundreds of humans. The next time you hear about the need for a Palestinian state/security, I want you to remember that the leader for life of that nation will be Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon. Does that really sound like the foundation for a permanent peace? See it works both ways From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:01:26 -0600 -Caveat Lector- Murderer as peacemaker? © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com How would you like it if millions of your hard-earned tax dollars were sent to a little foreign dictator who murdered two American diplomats and got away with it? I'm sure you would not be a happy camper. Well, as much as I hate to upset you, dear readers, that is precisely what is happening with the millions of dollars the U.S. is transferring in foreign aid to Yasser Arafat and his Palestine Authority. Maybe you didn't know about Arafat's murderous record before. For that you can be excused, because the establishment press has not done much to expose this petty tyrant -- this killer of unarmed, innocent Americans simply doing their country's diplomatic duty. But once I tell you the details of this heinous crime -- this unforgivable act of bloodlust -- you won't have any excuses, anymore. If you don't act -- if you don't scream about it to your elected officials in Washington -- then you, too, will be tacitly guilty of rewarding a cowardly killer for his evil deeds. Here are the facts, as I revealed in a news story in WorldNetDaily last week: On Feb. 28, 1973, Yasser Arafat was overheard by Israeli and U.S. intelligence operatives planning a Black September terrorist operation in Khartoum, Sudan. His transmissions were tape-recorded. They
[CTRL] Fwd: Barak's 3 No's + Bush's 7 Minute Call
___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] BARAK'S 3 NO'S AS BUSH CALLS FOR 7 MINUTES MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 1/28: The Americans leaked it, a 7-minute Saturday call from the new U.S. Pres to the sinking Israeli PM -- leaked its brevity that is. "The president expressed a desire for a strong, close relationship with Israel and a desire to see peace in the region based on a secure Israel," said Bush's weekend National Security Council spokeswoman, Ellen Countryman, who added that Bush made a dozen or so calls to foreign leaders that day. Looks like the new right-wing American government -- with George W. actually a personal friend of Ariel Sharon though he understandably prefers to be discreet about this -- knows what is coming. And as the Americans get ready to "deal with Iraq" (a George W phrase for he is indeed a man of few worthwhile words) the Israelis ready to install their bloodshedder-in-chief preparing for more military rather than political battle. Oh yes, by the way, it's now "nuclear Iraq", for the Iraqis according to more timely leaked reports, are said to have at least two primitive nuclear bombs with more acoming. And sure enough, even before taking the Prime Minister's office, Sharon's people are already threatening striking Iran and Egypt! While Barak was tossing out his three "No's" (see the article below), Israel's Arabs (defying their own imposed leader Yasser Arafat), let it be known they are going to sit out this Barak-Sharon contest and let fate take it's course. Not only have all the major Arab parties said so in public, but assassination squads continue to warn Arafat to watch it. Last week the head of Palestinian TV in Gaza and a close Arafat friend -- he personally helped carry the coffin in fact -- was gunned down by masked men. Yesterday in Nablus, another corrupt Arafat official was dealt with in similar manner while demonstrations took place condemning Arafat's then current "Taba" negotiations. BARAK VOWS NOT TO JOIN SHARON-LED UNITY GOVERNMENT: NO SHARON, NO PERES, NO LEAVING POLITICS! By Yossi Verter - Ha'aretz Political Correspondent [Ha'aretz 28 January 2001]: Prime Minister Ehud Barak said last night for the first time that he would not join a national unity government led by Ariel Sharon, since its policies would be too extremist. Speaking to a group of writers and performing artists at his official Jerusalem residence, Barak also reiterated that he would not step aside to allow Shimon Peres to run and indicated that he would not leave politics if defeated on February 6. Referring to belligerent statements made by Sharon's likely coalition party, MK Avigdor Lieberman, Barak said that Sharon, if elected, would form a "Tehran-Aswan government." (Lieberman has mentioned the Iranian and Egyptian cities as potential targets for Israeli retaliatory attacks.) Barak expressed confidence that his campaign would coalesce during the last five days before the elections and said that the current gap is really less than the surveys indicate. ALL ISRAELI ARAB PARTIES CALL FOR ABSTENTION FROM PM ELECTION By Ori Nir and Jalal Banna, Ha'aretz Correspondents Ha'aretz (Bulletin) 27 January 2001: The Arab Democratic Party decided Saturday to call on its voters to boycott the upcoming prime ministerial election. In doing so, the Arab Democratic Party joined the rest of the Arab parties calling on their constituents not to support Ehud Barak or Ariel Sharon. Ten days before the election, all the Arab parties and non-parliamentary political movements in the Arab sector have called on their supporters to abstain from the prime ministerial election. The only differences between the parties lie in whether to boycott the election or to express their protest against both candidates by submitting a blank ballot. This united protest front by the Arab parties was reached after the Arab Democratic Party followed in the footsteps of Hadash, the largest and most diverse party in the Arab sector, which decided over the weekend to urge its supporters to submit a blank ballot. In opposition to Hadash, whose call for a blank ballot leaves room for a change of mind if any sort of agreement is reached with the Palestinian Authority before the election, the Arab Democratic Party called for an absolute boycott of the election and did not acknowledge the possibility of an agreement with the Palestinians. Senior
Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker?
-Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hold on a sec, are you saying that if you dont agree with the UN then you shouldnt have to agree with them, and do what the world community says ? That's right. The 5 major powers of the UN are USA, UK, FRANCE, RUSSIA, CHINA This is the security council. There are other parts to the UN. you tell me which one of these countries is muslim ? in fact USA and its puppy UK are more incilined to take the Israeli stand point. Only if the Israelis toe the globalist line. Which they have up to now. If Sharon wins, you'll see some interesting changes. I dont think Russia is muslim, their mainly christian and so is France. china is a completly differnt ball game, but it still aint muslim. France gets its oil from the Mid East. Russia backs the Muslims in the Mid East as a counter to the US backing Israel. China has good relations with Israel. So the notion that the UN is mainly muslim isnt correct. I never said that. I said that there are many Muslim countries in the UN, and many others beholding to Arab oil. If the jews werent running the White house then i bet Israel woulda been called a rouge state ages ago. Jews running the White House? On which planet? J2 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:31:09 -0500 -Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- what ? the UN found him DIRECTLY responsible Israel had found him INDIRECTLY responsible Yes, you are right about the UN. Israelis don't pay much attention to the UN. And for good reason too. The UN has MANY Muslim states as members, and has many other states which need Muslim oil. I wouldn't exactly call it an unbiassed body. But the point is that the massacre was carried out AGAINST his direct orders according to a Phalangist participant in the massacre. and i dont think the country that he fights for is gonna punish him either. No they will not. He saved Israel from military destruction in the Yom Kippur War. Instead he will probably be the next Prime Minister. That will be interesting. just look at the way the guy that killed that 10 year old got away with it. Killers should fry. J2 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:20:04 -0500 -Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- What are you on man ? Ariel Sharon, was found directly responsible for massacres of palestinians in UN shelters. Actally, he was found INDIRECTLY responsible. The killings were done against his direct orders by a Syrian opperative who was a Christian Phalangist. If you want to know more about this, see... *From Israel to Damascus* on the Net. A book written by one of the Phalangist militiamen who actually did the killing. Joshua2 Mere civilans just trying to survive in UN encampments, when along comes 'the buldozer'. It wasnt even 2 or 20 people that he was responsible for killing, the total tally reached the hundreds. The next time you see Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon talking politely to Ted Koppel on "Nightline," I want you to remember that behind that phony smile is the conscience of a killer. He's the premeditated murderer of U.S. diplomats/hundreds of humans. The next time you hear about the need for a Palestinian state/security, I want you to remember that the leader for life of that nation will be Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon. Does that really sound like the foundation for a permanent peace? See it works both ways From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:01:26 -0600 -Caveat Lector- Murderer as peacemaker? 2001 WorldNetDaily.com How would you like it if millions of your hard-earned tax dollars were sent to a little foreign dictator who murdered two American diplomats and got away with it? I'm sure you would not be a happy camper. Well, as much as I hate to upset you, dear readers, that is precisely what is happening with the millions of dollars the U.S. is transferring in foreign aid to Yasser Arafat and his Palestine Authority. Maybe you didn't know about Arafat's murderous record before. For that you can be excused, because the establishment press has not done much to expose this petty tyrant -- this killer of unarmed, innocent Americans
[CTRL] Reno Admits She's Under FBI Guard
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/28/171356.shtml Reno Admits She's Under FBI Guard Jack Thompson Monday, Jan. 29, 2001 On April 30 of last year, at the height of the Elian Gonzalez matter, The Miami Herald reported that three police squad cars were "quietly keeping vigil" over then Attorney General Janet Reno's home in the 11200 block of Kendall Drive in suburban Miami. Police sources recently informed me that even though the Elian saga is long over and Reno is no longer a government official, security personnel have remained at the Reno family residence. Janet Reno this day sits inside the home her mother built illegally without the required building permits. Outside the home sits Reno's brand new red pick-up truck. Sure enough, roaming around the premises are security personnel you can plainly see as you drive by. My police sources suggested I file a Freedom of Information Act request to determine who is paying for these security personnel for a person who is a private citizen.But FOIA requests can take a lot of time. I decided to call Janet myself, as I have in the past. At 1:15 pm today, January 28, 2001--Super Bowl Sunday--I called Janet and gave her my name. I welcomed her back to Miami, and I told her I was working on a story about her return to Miami. I asked her this question: "Madame Attorney General, who is providing the security personnel at your home?" She startled me by answering the question: "They are provided by the FBI. I decided to leave that decision to Director Freeh. You'll have to ask him for the details." I thanked her and said good-bye. So now the question for Director Freeh:Why is the FBI providing a private citizen protection at taxpayer expense? Another question: Why is it that Johhny Chung, the man who testified about the People's Republic of China's illegal campaign contributions and was nearly killed by PRC operatives, is receiving no FBI protection? Further, is it a matter of national policy that we protect the woman who used her office to thwart an independent counsel's investigation of Chinagate while leaving open to assassination its whistleblowers, of which Chung is only one? Put another way, why is Janet Reno's life more valuable than thousands of other men, women, and children who today are at greater risk, and demonstrably so, than is hers? -- The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it's good-by to the Bill of Rights. --H.L. Mencken, A Carnival of Buncombe: Writings on Politics [1956], edited by Malcolm Moos,p.273 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Common Law Courts in the United States
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ncsc.dni.us/is/MEMOS/Archives/S96-0472.HTM MEMORANDUM Ref. No. IS 96.0472 March 20, 1996 (revised April 30, 1996) By: Gerald M. Nagle Re: Common Law Courts in the United States The Information Service was asked to provide information on the growth of the Common Law Court (CLC) movement in the United States. The following is a discussion of the history, philosophy, practices, activities in the states, and responses by state officials to this growing movement. The Common Law Court movement is a grass roots movement comprised of individuals who seek an alternative venue for gaining redress for grievances against the federal and state government and against individuals. Adherents view the CLCs as the only legal court of justice recognized by their interpretation of the U.S. Constitution and other legal documents such as the Uniform Commercial Code and the Magna Carta. The Courts are established on general principles and questionable interpretations of the common law with the premise that the United States and the state governments have become tyrannies that usurp constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of citizens. Central to the philosophy of the CLC movement is the notion that citizens embracing the common law doctrine as sovereign "free men" are emancipated from the responsibilities that U. S. citizenship entails. The primary goal of the CLC movement is "to restore a constitution for the United States by identifying and removing from office those delinquent perverts who would undermine the Constitution." Another is to reform federal court proceedings by arguing and defending themselves without lawyers. In furthering these goals, proponents of the CLC movement have established more than 100 common law courts in at least twenty states; the number of CLCs continues growing rapidly throughout the nation. As the movement provides an increasingly popular venue for disillusioned and disaffected citizens to seek justice for the wrongs they feel the government, businesses, and private citizens have committed, the threat of social and political upheaval and physical violence must be taken seriously. Already, scores of judges, prosecutors, and government officials have been harassed by CLC adherents filing liens and involuntary bankruptcies against them and have been subjected to threats of physical harm. Many have been sentenced to death by CLC juries. HISTORY OF THE CLC MOVEMENT With roots going back to the posse comitatus movement of the 1970s, the CLC movement has ties to the militia and "free men" movements, according to Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center. The movement seems to have originated in the heartland of America, where economic hardship in the agricultural communities has created a fertile ground for anti-government factions extolling the virtues of a new justice system based on conservative Christian ideology and white supremacy dogma, known collectively as the Christian Identity movement. The movement has a strong attraction to individuals who have run into tax problems or lost their farms and possessions to loan foreclosures or who simply refuse to recognize the authority of a judicial system they believe is corrupt and unfair. The CLC movement is controlled by individuals who, among other motivations, perceive that women and minorities have gained too much power. Not surprisingly, the movement has, at the very least, loose ties to white nationalist and white supremacist movements; many involved in the CLCs hold active memberships in state militias organized as paramilitary groups advocating the overthrow of the present government and the establishment of a new form of government based on the laws of God and their own interpretation of the Constitution. While CLC followers tend to limit their activism to campaigns of paper terrorism and veiled threats, in one instance in early 1994, a court clerk in California was attacked and severely beaten by a thug hired by a group of tax evaders with ties to the common law movement after she refused to file common law liens against court officials. In Ohio, where CLCs are operating in 66 of the states 88 counties, Chief Justice Moyer of the Ohio Supreme Court has taken a pro-active stand in addressing the movement and has attempted to educate and warn the state court judges and court officials about the movement. He went so far as to meet with members of the so-called "Our One Supreme Court" to learn more about their ideology and goals. PHILOSOPHY The philosophical underpinning of the CLC movement begins with the premise that the American judicial system is a failure, according to Larry Russell, a CLC activist in Montana, who argues that many laws "dont serve the
Re: [CTRL] Reno Admits She's Under FBI Guard
-Caveat Lector- I say maybe Janet Reno should be concerned for no doubt revenge from her activity at Waco will never be forgotte; however, she would do well to remember that Jock Yablotski had FBI watch on his house - the labor leader, remember murdered when three journeymen visited him at midnight - they murdered Jock, his wife and daughter - and for some strange reason the dog did not bark at midnight? So they knew the dog and the one killer wore golden ear ring long before they were popular. So if I would be Janet Reno - she would do well to remember while the FBI had 24 hour watch on her house, it appears someone slept during the midnight hours.for even with the FBI keeping watch over them at night, the murderers accomplished their goal. Reno and Clinton and Albright have done much evil - avengers of blood are all about them without a doubt and the black hand of fate maybe coming out of a cloud somewhere. So let them spend the rest of their days looking over their shoulders..all but Reno wanted as war criminal in Balkans..we see why Osama bin Laden smilesoh what fools we mortals be...with or without a watch over them - when the guard is down, that is when assassins hit. Who do you trust - FBI There is a secret society who follows the path of the rose dating back to the pyramids and this secret society is alive and well..keepers of the flame, so to put - the avengers. So what will be, will be..and that is why Osama bin Laden smiles? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Carla Binion: A call for Democratic party reform
-Caveat Lector- A call for Democratic party reform By Carla Binion No other subjects in our current political life deserve as much thorough scrutiny as (1) the stealing of presidential election 2000, and (2) the need for reforming the Democratic party. The theft of the election was a covert political coup. Rather than examine what this coup reveals about the condition of democracy and our political system today, most TV talking heads and mainstream politicians are in a big hurry to change the subject. It was only six weeks ago that the Supreme Court stopped the vote count. However, the subject-changers want to rush to bury the incident. Their efforts resemble book burning, in that they seek to obliterate the event from the American memory. Writer Robert Anton Wilson once said the book burning mentality and the suppression of critical examination gave him "a mildly Orwellian suspicion that [he] was not living in a totally free or rational world." TV talking heads and certain politicians use Orwellian Newspeak when they insist that stealing an election is winning an election. Television news organizations are in a hurry to forget historic events that challenge the status quo, including an event as recent as the Supreme Court ruling. Media critic, author and educator Neil Postman says, "history is not only a world but a living world." TV news, however, is a present-centered medium, says Postman, speeding from one news story to the next without digesting any story. In "The American Crisis, Number III," Thomas Paine said, "In the progress of politics, as in the common occurrences of life, we are not only apt to forget the ground we have travelled over, but frequently neglect to gather up experience as we go." Paine continued, "By comparing what is past with what is present, we frequently hit on the true character of both, and become wise with very little troubleA considerable space of time may lapse between, and unless we continue our observations from the one to the other, the harmony of them will pass away unnoticed." Political analyst Gary Sick served on the National Security Council staff under Presidents Ford, Carter and Reagan. He has said, "A run-of-the-mill political scandal can safely be exposed without affecting anyone other than the culprits and their immediate circle. A covert political coup, however...challenges the legitimacy of the political order; it deliberately exploits weaknesses in the political immune system and risks infecting the entire organism of state and society." (Gary Sick, "October Surprise," I. B. Tauris Co Ltd, 1991.) The talking heads now scramble to restore the mask of legitimacy to the political order. Some critics of the Supreme Court's December 12 decision might say to the Newspeakers, "not so fast." For example, in The Nation, 2/5/01, author and prosecuting attorney Vincent Bugliosi points out the criminal nature of the Supreme Court's decision to hand the presidential election to George W. Bush. Bugliosi says: "The stark reality, and I say this with every fiber of my being, is that the institution Americans trust the most to protect its freedoms and principles committed one of the biggest and most serious crimes this nation has ever seen -- pure and simple, the theft of the presidency. And by definition, the perpetrators of this crime have to be denominated criminals." Bugliosi laments the fact that most critics of the Supreme Court's behavior have not shown outrage but mere disappointment. He adds, "If what these Justices did was not 'morally reprehensible' and a 'wrong against society,' what would be? In terms, then, of natural law and justice -- the protoplasm of all eventual laws on the books -- these five Justices are criminals in every true sense of the word, and in a fair and just world belong behind prison bars as much as any American white-collar criminal who ever lived." Why have so many of the Court's critics responded tepidly? Bugliosi says, "Since the notion of five Supreme Court Justices being criminals is so alien to our sensibilities and previously held beliefs, and since, for the most part, people see and hear, as Thoreau said, what they expect to see and hear, most readers will find my characterization of these Justices to be intellectually incongruous. But make no mistake about it, I think my background in the criminal law is sufficient to inform you that Scalia, Thomas et al. are criminals in the very truest sense of the word." Vincent Bugliosi is not the only prominent attorney voicing outrage. Over 500 law professors around the country signed a petition giving similar analyses of the five Supreme Court Justices; and, as Bugliosi mentions, even judicial conservatives such as Terrance Sandalow, former dean of the University of Michigan law school, have criticized the Court. Sandalow, who supported the nomination to the Court of rightwing icon Robert Bork and opposed Roe v. Wade, said the Court's staying the vote
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are equating homelessness with mental illness. If you had ever spent any time around homeless people you would know better. Some mentally ill people are homeless. But not all homeless people are mentally ill. Many are either laid off, or working at jobs that don't pay enough for them to be able to afford to rent a place to stay... I've worked with charities helping these people...many are families, living out of their cars... Any night of the week you can literally see people huddled against the cold in the doorways of bank buildings that are locked shut. In NYC they used to sleep in the subway stations and Grand Central Terminal, but Guliani doesn't allow that anymore...you'll get arrested for sleeping in the stations now... So the great unwashed now sleep outside, out of sight of all the middle-class commuters... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Nuclear Bomb Iraq
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] But then why did Israelies want to build tunnels under this one old Rock..maybe looking for King Solomons Mines? The mines known as King Solomon's Mines are in Africa... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- in closing, i'd like to offer my apologies for bringing these arguments (which i tend to view similarly to an argument with a member of the flat earth society - i was not expecting this to be an issue here) to the list and my condolences for all of you unfortunate enough to live in a country that is backwards enough to continue to promote racism. inri Anyone who doesn't know enough to capitalize "I" cannot be taken seriously. oh.and those who promote segregation can? a closer look at my past posts to this list will show that i also refuse to capitalize the beginning of sentences, proper names, etc unless i happen to have done so by accident or i am capitalizing an entire word. i apologize for any unnecessary capitalization. why? because i believe in a classless alphabet; or, at the very least, completely classless words. those of the upper cases need to be scaled down - their powers to speak before and stand taller than the others need to be removed. you could call me an alphabetical egalitarianist. and, yes, i am a socialist. the root of all conspiracy in the world for the last 100+ years has been wall street. nazism, communism, fascism are all products of capitalism - they were all created to take over various parts of the world and funded by american capitalist interests. why hasn't there been major conflict since WWII? because the major populations of the world - russia, america, europe, china, etc - have all been under the control of the same murderering capitalist wall street puppet- masters. the cia would you like you to believe it's in the process of bringing fascism to america and has been since paperclip. the reality is that it's in the process of exporting american style fascism/capitalism to the rest of the world and has been since at least teddy roosevelt. i'm working on a rather large book that will attempt to prove this. i'll send all who are interested a free copy when i'm done.most likely in 5-10 years or so. inri np: [(deny - avoid) + expose]everything = enlightenment A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- This is a Conspiracy Theory list...the Pope still believes the sun travels about the earth - in the circuit of othe heavens. the pope also believes that some dude rose from the dead. talk about conspiracy.. As of late Einstein's "theory" is being challenged which original idea was credited to Newton, but nobody cares about that.and further it is said Einstein stole his theory in part from an Italian? i seem to have missed where this came from, but for your sake, i REALLY hope you're not talking about gallileo. so all you pore folk out there who want a communist in office, had already had one - last time i checked, clinton was heavily funded by the harriman family: heirs to the largest investment firm in the world bankers buddies of the bush's, rockefellers, etc from way back when why would the richest people in the world build clinton up into a nice puppet if he was a closet communist and out to get them the whole time? better yet, why would they keep paying him? this doesn't makes any sense, man. but let's pretend it does. if clinton is a commie then his puppet-masters must be right? well, if the harrimans are such commies, why would they hang around with the bush's.who everybody knows are either fascists or true americans [synonymous] UNLESS you voted for a commie! hah-hah! inri (who realizes that none of them are communists but would really appreciate it if y'all thought this shit through before you posted) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Er, inri, my children are Hispanic. assuming you are a real person and not a name created by the government [you don't think they don't moniter these places and post their bullshit here do you?] i seem to have made an unfair assumption. however, hispanics can still be racists... and i do not apologize for slandering you as such. They do not utter racial slurs nor do I nor does any member of my family. i just can't argue this. The blacks where I live often make more money than the whites. There are about five counties in my state with a Black MAJORITY population. good. All major cities in the south have black mayors and chiefs of police as do many large cities in this country. ALL major cities in the south have black mayors AND chiefs of police? now this is an interesting statistic! and you wonder why i'm skeptical about what you say. Your "superior" education has enabled you to utter simplistic solutions to a very complex problem. a complex problem is merely the sum of many simple problems. simple problems have simple solutions. this is the problem solving approach taught here. so, yes, you are correct. Whatever the causation of problems in the US educational system, it is much more complex than those to which you attribute it. I assure you if it were as simple and clear-cut as you seem to think, we could solve it. is it really complex? or is faux complexity a means to prevent solutions? is complexity a reality or an illusion? As I said originally, you cannot grasp the situation from there. that is one point of view. i prefer to take the one that a step back puts things in proper perspective. however, as a slightly different answer to this earlier reveals: this really, really is a subjective point. As a parent, I doubt you would be willing to 'sacrifice' your child in the causes you state. correct. I do not care if I am called a racist any more because of the ignorance of the people who use that as an excuse and refuse to place any of the blame on those causing the element of criminality to flourish in public schools. i believe that my earlier response admitted that blacks do indeed commit some crimes. and i do not believe i ever stated that they were not responsible for their actions. i did, however, attenpt to attack a larger evil - the root of the problem. in reality, you're the one using racism as an excuse not to look at the real issues. could i get a yea or nay from an iimpartial observer as to whether or not this was what came out of the first email i sent through? Amelia P. S. With our inferior educational system I wonder why so many Canadians were enrolled in my older son's University, Georgetown, which is by the way both private and religiously owned. please think about this for a second. what do you think? if you're ready for the answer then scroll down.. university is not funded by the public georgetown is a very well known school. many, many highly intelligent canadians emigrate to the united states in search of larger incomes, a better economy, less social responsibility and lower taxes. in other words? the answer is greed. america IS the best place in the world to live if you're filthy rich or have the potential to become so. several canadian agencies have done multiple studies on this phenomenon - they dub it the 'brain drain': http://dir.yahoo.com/Regional/Countries/Canada/Society_and_Culture/Issues_an d_Causes/Brain_Drain/ inri A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- --- inri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why? because i believe in a classless alphabet; or, at the very least, completely classless words. those of the upper cases need to be scaled down - their powers to speak before and stand taller than the others need to be removed. you could call me an alphabetical egalitarianist. WOW! First, some feminists insisted on spelling woman "womyn" to get "man" out of it now this! The things we can do with the written word. i'm working on a rather large book that will attempt to prove this. i'll send all who are interested a free copy when i'm done.most likely in 5-10 years or so. Your publisher may insist on some capitalization. In any event, put me on the free book list. jeff = Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat, college" -- Woody Allen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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The remainder complete study can be found @
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/321/7276/1547
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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jan2001/pov-j29.shtml
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Objectives: To compare the extent to which late 20th century patterns of mortality
in London are predicted by contemporary patterns of poverty and by late 19th century
patterns of poverty. To test the hypothesis that the pattern of mortality from
causes known to be related to deprivation in early life can be better predicted by
the distribution of poverty in the late 19th century than by that in the late 20th
century.
Design: Data from Charles Booth's survey of inner London in 1896 were digitised and
matched to contemporary local government wards. Ward level indices of relative
poverty were derived from Booth's survey and the 1991 UK census of population. All
deaths which took place within the surveyed area between 1991 and 1995 were
identified and assigned to contemporary local government wards. Standardised
mortality ratios for various causes of death were calculated for each ward for all
ages, under age 65, and over age 65. Simple correlation and partial correlation
analysis were used to estimate the contribution of the indices of poverty from
1896 and 1991 in predicting ward level mortality ratios in the early 1990s.
Setting: Inner London.
Results: For many causes of death in London, measures of deprivation made around
1896 and 1991 both contributed strongly to predicting the current spatial
distribution. Contemporary mortality from diseases which are known to be related to
deprivation in early life (stomach cancer, stroke, lung cancer) is predicted more
strongly by the distribution of poverty in 1896 than that in 1991. In addition, all
cause mortality among people aged over 65 was slightly more strongly related to the
geography of poverty in the late 19th century than to its contemporary distribution.
Conclusions: Contemporary patterns of some diseases have their roots in the past.
The fundamental relation between spatial patterns of social deprivation and spatial
patterns of mortality is so robust that a century of change in inner London has
failed to disrupt it.
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Remember Folks, YOU are responsible for educating your Children, not those corrupt Day Care Centers known as Schools. Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 - Original Message - From: "Allyson Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: FW: HORMEL GIVES KIDS PORN COLORING BOOK -Original Message- From: Investigative Journal Alert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 4:18 PM To: List Member Subject: HORMEL GIVES KIDS PORN COLORING BOOK Investigative Journal Alert - http://InvestigativeJournal.com --- ListBot Sponsor -- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb -- This is the FREE e-mail alert you requested. COPY AND RESEND. Unsubscribe/subscribe at http://InvestigativeJournal.listbot.com/ LISTEN TO THE INVESTIGATIVEJOURNAL.COM RADIO SHOW. http://InvestigativeJournal.com/radio.htm --- STOP WINTER COLDS AND FLU Get free information on how to improve your health from the Essential Oils Healthline. Call 1-800-777-2038. --- SEX COLORING BOOK GIVEN TO SENATORS Ashcroft had good reason to oppose Hormel By David M. Bresnahan ? 2001 InvestigativeJournal.com Washington, DC - Senators can now see for themselves why Sen. John Ashcroft so strongly opposed the Clinton nomination of James Hormel as U.S. Ambassador in 1997 - Hormel is accused of distributing homosexual pornography to children. U.S. Senators were presented evidence that Ashcroft had good reason to oppose the Hormel nomination. Senators were shocked when they received copies of the "C__t Coloring Book," a homosexual coloring book for children that is part of the James Hormel Gay and Lesbian Reading Center at the San Francisco Public Library. It contains page after page of drawings of female genitalia for children to color. Ashcroft has been criticized for his belief that homosexuality is a sin. Despite such opposition, even Deomocrats say they expect him to be confirmed as Attorney General replacing Janet Reno. Andrea Lafferty, director of the Traditional Values Coalition, personally delivered the coloring books to every freshman Senator on Capitol Hill Thursday. Read the full details of this story at http://InvestigativeJournal.com. --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/1/_/122670/_/980744884/ -_- THIS SPACE FOR RENT For details, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please limit your postings to this list to 3 messages in any 24 hour period.** Subscribe to SlickPlus and receive columns from some of the finest political writers on the net. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words JOIN PLUS in the subject. If you're more of a reader than a writer, you may want to receive the Slick-D DIGEST instead of individual emails. Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove your address, send blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No muss, no fuss. Have a great day :=(
[CTRL] AP: Rich Ready To Face Civil Actions
-Caveat Lector- Sunday January 28, 2001 Rich Ready To Face Civil Actions By RON KAMPEAS Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - A lawyer for Marc Rich, the fugitive financier whose pardon has clouded President Clinton (news - web sites)'s exit from office, said Sunday his client is ready to return to face possible civil penalties on charges he did not pay millions in taxes. Rich, indicted in 1983 by a federal grand jury on evading more than $48 million in income taxes, has been living in Switzerland. He is ex-husband of Denise Rich, a major financial contributor to the Democratic Party. Rich's lawyer, former Clinton administration White House counsel Jack Quinn, said Rich would not invoke statute of limitation allowances that could frustrate government efforts to force him to face civil action. ``He will and should face any assertions that he owes civil penalties,'' Quinn said on NBC's ``Meet The Press.'' Quinn said it was his understanding that Rich and his business partner Pincus Green, also pardoned by Clinton, would be coming back to the United States. Quinn emphasized that Rich would continue to maintain his innocence. He contends the transactions in question were carried out by Swiss companies associated with Rich, and were not subject to the tax laws of the time. Rich was indicted in Manhattan federal court in 1983, shortly after he fled the country, on charges of tax fraud and illegally buying oil from Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis. President Clinton's pardon of Rich, among 176 pardons and clemencies he issued Jan 20, his last day in office, has led to allegations that it was tied to Denise Rich's political contributions, including those to the New York Senate campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites). Quinn and Denise Rich have strongly denied this. New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, who as federal prosecutor had pursued Rich in the early 1980s, said he supported the congressional investigation announced last week by Rep. Dan Burton (news - bio - voting record), R-Ind., chairman of the House Government Reform Committee. ``You have on the one side, a fugitive for many, many years, one of the top six fugitives of the Justice Department (news - web sites) ... on the other side a lot of unanswered questions about over a million dollars in campaign contributions,'' Giuliani said on NBC. Denise Rich has contributed more than $1 million to Democrats since 1993, including Hillary Clinton (news - web sites). The mayor, who canceled a routine meeting with the senator last week in order to signal his anger with the pardon, said he was especially outraged that Rich was never even tried before receiving the pardon. But that is not without precedent: In 1992, former President Bush (news - web sites) ended his term in office by pardoning, before trial, six Reagan administration officials indicted in the Iran-Contra affair, including former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger. Giuliani said that one sign that the pardon was inappropriate was that Quinn bypassed consultations with New York prosecutors. Quinn said he included all the prosecutors' stated objections to any deal when he launched his efforts to obtain a pardon. Burton wants to examine whether former President Clinton ``had an improper motive'' for pardoning Rich. Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) suggested the pardon ``pre-empted what had been a serious effort to bring him to justice over the years on the charges that have been made against him.'' Cheney would not count out the possibility that his administration would seek to undo the pardon - but stressed that his belief was that Clinton had broad discretion to issue the pardon. ``The power of a president to issue pardons is absolute,'' Cheney said on NBC. ``It's in the Constitution. It's something that has been traditionally granted from time to time at the end of administrations.'' Senate Majority Leader Sen. Trent Lott (news - bio - voting record) suggested the Senate would review the president's absolute power to pardon. ``Maybe we should have some basic parameters,'' Lott, R-Miss., said on ``Fox News Sunday. ``Should we take some action to try to prevent abuses that do occur?'' The Constitution gives the president power to grant ``Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.'' = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and
[CTRL] JWW: Anatomy Of A Pardon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=3978 Sunday, January 28, 2001 / 4 Shevat 5761 Jewish Week Wireless. Anatomy Of A Pardon How four New Square felons got their sentences commuted, and what, if anything, Hillary had to do with it. By ERIC J. GREENBERG Staff Writer Several weeks after her historic victory in New Yorkís U.S. Senate race, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton attended a meeting at the White House with President Bill Clinton and the Skverer rebbe ó Rabbi David Twersky, spiritual leader of the scandal-scarred New Square chasidic sect in Rockland County. But this was not the first meeting between New Yorkís new junior senator and the 60-year-old grand rebbe of the 7,000-member village ó the first incorporated Jewish community in the U.S. Clinton first campaigned there last August. That visit launched a series of events that last week culminated in a controversial last-minute clemency action on behalf of New Square by outgoing President Clinton. His act came 10 weeks after New Square, breaking with most Orthodox communities, heartily supported Clintonís Senate campaign, delivered almost all of the villageís votes for her. The decision by President Clinton to commute the sentences of four prominent New Square men who stole tens of millions from the federal government in a phony yeshiva scheme is being criticized this week by law enforcement officials. Questions are being raised about whether the first lady unduly capitalized on her relationship with her husband, who had the unregulated power to pardon or commute prison sentences. New Square officials and a spokesman for Senator Clinton emphatically deny that any "deal" was made before the election to deliver votes for her in return for the commutations of the "New Square Four." Both say the subject was never even raised until December. Clinton said Wednesday she played "no role whatsoever" in the commutation. "I had no opinion about it," she said. But some critics donít believe it. "Just look at the math," said a Republican operative familiar with the Senate race. "She gets all of New Squareís votes and two months later she [helps commute the sentences of] four people from the village." The New Square commutations came among a blizzard of last-minute pardons and commutations ó many controversial ó directed by President Clinton on his last day in office. But New Square seems to be the only one connected to his wifeís unprecedented race for the Senate. New Square advocates argue the sentences were too harsh and that the convicted men did not gain personal profit from ill-gotten federal money ó a claim disputed by the federal judge during sentencing. New York law enforcement officials were irate over the New Square commutations. Manhattan U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White said they bypassed Justice Department procedures and did not give her office enough time to prepare arguments against them. Whiteís office learned of the New Square commutations on Jan 16 ó four days before the decision to pardon ó and was given a one-day deadline to reply. "We found out about the New Square virtually at the last moment," said a law enforcement official. In contrast to New Square, Clinton also publicly expressed concern about the Jonathan Pollard case, but no action was taken to commute Pollardís life sentence for spying on behalf of Israel (see accompanying story). On Aug. 8, Clinton visited New Square, about 40 miles north of New York City. She visited the girls yeshiva and schmoozed with Rabbi Twerskyís wife, Chana. She also had a private meeting with the rebbe. At the time, Clintonís campaign was desperately trying to boost stagnant support for her among the stateís key Jewish voters. Her opponent, former Long Island Republican Rep. Rick Lazio, seemed to be gaining momentum. For Clinton, it was already clear that New Yorkís Orthodox and chasidic communities would be a hard sell, as they were expressing their personal dislike for her and her positions, particularly regarding Israel. She needed to show she could win some support in Orthodox circles. Meanwhile, New Square was coping with a series of scandals in which top village officials were going to jail or fleeing the country for swindling tens of millions of dollars in federal education, housing and small-business subsidies in a decade-long scam. One widely publicized case included laundering money through a phony yeshiva set up in Brooklyn. Rabbi Twersky desperately wanted to win clemency for the four noted New Square residents who on Jan. 25, 1999 were convicted of 21 charges including conspiracy, embezzlement, and wire and mail fraud. Kalmen Stern, 42, was sentenced to 78 months; David Goldstein, 54, of Brooklyn, 70 months; Jacob Elbaum 40, 57 months; and Benjamin Berger, 30 months. They were ordered to pay back millions of dollars. [In addition, two others fled the country: New Square founders Chaim Berger, Benjaminís father, and Avraham David
[CTRL] TL: Bill Clinton left land mines for George W. Bush
-Caveat Lector- http://triblive.com/news/news_story.html?rkey=84561+sid=6dabfcba125bb369d5e 6f3025a033c2b+cat=editori Dateline D.C. Sunday, January 28, 2001 Bill Clinton left land mines for George W. Bush WASHINGTON - Washingtonians have been mulling over the very welcomed Texas invasion and inauguration of President George W. Bush. Few among the young executives in Washington were born when last so many well-mannered people took over the city. So, Howdy y'all! Suddenly there is a need to learn a whole new culture: the difference between Dallas wealth and the Houston fortunes; why you don't decline a lady's offer of a Texas dime; and the etiquette of cowboy hats, which you must learn to call "lids." (Lids made of straw or gray are worn by Texan gentlemen only from Easter to Labor Day, but black lids are de rigueur in every season for formal wear, while white lids are unusual.) Austin, the Texas capital since 1839, once was called Waterloo. Texans being clever, once for all of 11 days they had a floating capital. In that year, the steamboat Cayuga played host to the president and Cabinet of the new republic so that they could continue the business of government as they kept just ahead of an enormous Mexican army, until Sam Houston's resounding victory in San Jacinto. President George W. Bush is now ensconced in the White House and his "landing parties" have arrived in every federal agency, with notebooks, cell phones and laptops at the ready. In contrast to his predecessor, the man who would never apologize, President Bush spoke of personal responsibility and his commitment to "civility, courage, compassion and character." Just minutes before President Bush spoke these words, Bill Clinton, fresh from his taxpayer-funded "legacy lap" around the country, continued to send yet another Democratic crowd into ecstasy by taking vindictive shots at his successor. At Andrews Air Force Base, where the Clinton departure from Washington was timed by Clintonistas still in government to coincide exactly with the start of the inaugural parade, the former president pointed to a sign reading, "Please don't go." Never one to ignore an opportunity, Clinton said, "You see that sign. I left the White House, but I'm still here." What that means is that there is an ex-prez, unfettered by conscience or conventions, ready to roam the world looking for opportunities to undermine the administration of President Bush. A few days earlier in Chicago, the now ex-prez praised Al Gore's sleazy campaign Chairman Bill Daley, saying he did a brilliant job leading Al Gore to victory. "By the time it was over, our candidate had won the popular vote and the only way they could win the election was to stop the voting in Florida." Then, speaking of Washington state, where a Democrat narrowly won over the Republican incumbent, the ex-prez sniggered, "They have this unusual system - they actually count all the votes." After these and similar news bites had made the television shows, night after night, ex-prez quietly said to a reporter, "I wasn't trying to be sarcastic or hateful or even make any deliberate point." Sure, Mr. Ex-Prez, just like you were never a draft-dodger, never inhaled and never womanized. In fact, if the junior senator from New York will permit, the name Monica will be like Gennifer, Juanita, Catherine, Paula, Sally and so many others, expunged from your memory banks - at least in public. Yet, while Bill Clinton hopes to be out of the spotlight when he is in New York or Georgetown (no one in Arkansas appears to care that the favorite son is not coming home), some of us will always be in his self-styled "zone of privacy" to report on his activities. While George Bush is putting together an administration that relies more on the sentiments of George Washington's farewell address, the ex-prez shows every sign of attempting to create an "alternative government," based on the bizarre values of the grungy television show "Friends." Suddenly, the ex-prez has become an authority on values. It is to him (and his spin-doctors) plainly obvious that it's in his interest if the country can be persuaded that the self-serving values-without-morality of William Jefferson Clinton should be accepted by all Americans. "And why not," the ex-prez will ask. He certainly does not think of himself as a mere mortal, but sees himself as a leader, a messiah - though actually a false messiah! Clinton equates his political trials and tribulations with Old Testament ordeals. He has been heard equating himself with an oppressed minority and his biblical quotations remind us that even the devil can quote Scripture. With the kind help of his friends from Hollywood, the ex-prez created a fantasy for himself, played out as "The Man from Hope." He is looking for a role in Part II and can't imagine himself in a supporting role to his spousal senator. The ex-prez prepared a campaign, which our military friends compare to "stay-behind" teams in
[CTRL] - Five CME's Reported Since Friday
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01-01-28 23:30:50 EST, you write: Five CME's Reported Since Friday...01/29/01 by Mitch Battros (ECTV) NASA appears to be puzzled with the recent escalation of CME's. There is no explanation for the increases. Nasa does mention they are now aware there may be less of a connection between CME's (coronal mass ejections) and solar flares than previously considered. There is no question all scientific disciplines are scrabbling to grasp a better understanding of our Sun - Earth connection. Some would suggest our ancestors were well advanced of current science. As mentioned in my previous article, it will be when our present catches up to our past. That is to say when science (modern), understands history (ancient text). It is then, we shall move forward to an understanding of our present (current). Nasa seems to side step the question of CME's effect on our weather. I would suggest it plays a significant role. Perhaps less than the more directed solar flares, but we are still speaking of "charged particles". It is the geomagnetic waves which effects our weather patterns. I believe my equation remains intact regarding solar plasma, whether it be CME's or solar flares. Equation: Sunspots = Solar Flares (or CME's - Charged Particles) = Magnetic Shift = Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents = Extreme Weather Nasa's bewilderment may suggest they are quit surprised to witness so many CME's and not have a clue as to the cause. My guess would be this current cycle is different than all those before it. The question remains...Why! Could it be external celestial influences? Could this be just another indicator we are in a much larger cycle than Nasa's proclaiming of a regular 11 cycle? Is a shift occurring we simply don't understand? Perhaps the answers lay within ancient text... Nasa are you listening!!! Watch for continued extreme weather for some time to come. NASA's article: "In terms of solar flares, the Sun has been relatively quiet for the past three days, but coronal mass ejections have been plentiful. Since Friday, five bright CMEs have billowed away from the Sun. The sequence of relatively few flares and many CMEs illustrates something that solar physicists have learned only recently. Solar flares do not (necessarily) trigger coronal mass ejections. The two types of eruptions can happen independently. None of the recent spate of CMEs appear to be Earth-directed." Nasa Link: http://www.spaceweather.com/ Mitch Battros Producer - Earth Changes TV http://www.earthchangesTV.com __ EcoNews Service - Always online for Ecology, Consciousness Universe Exopolitics. EcoNews http://www.ecologynews.com/ Prague http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Vancouver, BC V6M 1V8 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SMH: Hillary denies using presidential pardon to buy votes
-Caveat Lector- Sydney Morning Herald http://www.smh.com.au/news/0101/29/world/world12.html Hillary denies using presidential pardon to buy votes New York: Hillary Rodham Clinton was forced to lie low at the weekend amid a growing storm over allegations her campaign "bought" Jewish votes in exchange for a White House pardon for four Hasidic men convicted of fraud. The former first lady, now a US senator, abruptly cancelled a series of public appearances as details emerged of the deal struck on the last day of her husband's presidency. She has denied she played a role in any of the pardons. Senator Clinton captured virtually 100 per cent of the votes in the Hasidic community of New Square, 30 kilometres outside New York, even though neighbouring areas went strongly for Rick Lazio, her Republican opponent. Mrs Clinton was given an enthusiastic reception at New Square during the Senate race last summer, with promises that a street would be named in her honour. Republican campaigning in the village stopped after it became clear she had the 1,500 votes locked up. It emerged last week that representatives for the four men, convicted in 1998 of a $US40million ($73million) fraud in which government funds were channelled into a non-existent religious school, met the Clintons in Washington only weeks before the inauguration of George W. Bush as president. Their names were subsequently added to a list of nearly 200 pardons and sentence commutations released by Bill Clinton in his last hours as president. The four Hasidic men, who are serving prison sentences from 30 months to seven years, had their jail terms cut by up to two-thirds. They claimed that the money was used to fund other community projects. The Mayor of New York, Rudi Giuliani, has hinted he may push for an investigation into the lobbying. It is claimed he had also been approached for help in exchange for political support. It is known that the district attorney's office became very concerned that the White House would free the men. On January 16, a member of the prosecution team wrote to then president Clinton, saying a pardon would "send a message to the worldwide community that its pursuit of its own religious customs justified fraud against the government". Meanwhile, Mr Clinton is offering to repay the cost of "vandalism" by his staff when they left their offices, once he is given a full reckoning from the Bush White House of the damage allegedly done. Mr Clinton's offer follows reports, initially confirmed by a spokesman for Mr Bush, that officials vandalised the White House before they departed, then stripped the Air Force One presidential aircraft of anything that would serve as a souvenir. Mr Bush has ordered no action be taken against former administration officials in an attempt to calm an unprecedented row over reported theft and damage that was beginning to overshadow the opening days of his administration and sour relations with his predecessor. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JWW: U.S. Holocaust Museum May Be Dragged Into Controversy over Marc Rich Pardon
-Caveat Lector- Sunday, January 28, 2001 / 4 Shevat 5761 Jewish Week Wireless. U.S. Holocaust Museum May Be Dragged Into Controversy over Marc Rich Pardon James D. Besser - Washington Correspondent The furor over President Bill Clintonís pardon of fugitive commodities trader Marc Rich could entangle the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in new controversy as lawmakers probe what some say was a politically motivated action by the outgoing president. This week The Jewish Week learned that Rabbi Irving ìYitzî Greenberg, chair of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council, wrote to Clinton asking for a pardon for Rich. More important, Rabbi Greenberg wrote his appeal on official council stationery. A council source expressed concern that the letter, which Rabbi Greenberg said was put on council stationery by mistake, could further inflame congressional critics of the successful by sometimes-controversial museum on the Mall in Washington. In the letter, Rabbi Greenberg referred to the billionaireís philanthropy. ìHe brought vision, generosity, a desire to do good, a willingness to take a leadership role; most of all, I saw that he did good in a situation where he would not get recognition. I saw then that he really cares.î Rabbi Greenberg also referred to Richís ìsadness, his pain and suffering, his desire to do good and to make up by making a better world. I believe that the time has come to give him a new path and a new life.î In a statement to The Jewish Week, Rabbi Greenberg, who also serves as president of the Jewish Life Network, explained his action by saying that Rich was ìan early and helpful major partner with Jewish Life Networkî in Birthright Israel, a project that brings thousands of young Jewish people to Israel for free, 10-day trips. One source said that Rich has given ìmillionsî to Birthright ó which Rabbi Greenberg helped found. Rabbi Greenberg was out of the country and did not respond to requests for an interview. His spokesman acknowledged that ìputting the letter on council stationery was a mistake. It was supposed to be on Jewish Life Network stationery.î Congressional Republicans promised quick action to probe the pardon. This week Rep Dan Burton (R-Ind.), chair of the House Government Reform Committee, promised hearings on the circumstances of the ìmotive, basis and timingî of the pardon. Rich fled the United States in 1983 after he was indicted on charges of racketeering, tax evasion and tax fraud. Federal prosecutors charged that Richís companies violated U.S. sanctions against Iran and evaded taxes on the profits. A number of prominent businesspeople and Jewish leaders wrote to Clinton supporting a pardon, including Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. The Rich pardon was one of several issued in the last days of the Clinton administration that ignited a firestorm of criticism and calls for congressional investigations. Richís former wife, Denise, is a friend of the former president and a large Democratic contributor. This week Denise Rich denied that her donations to Clinton, Vice President Al Gore, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and other Democrats was connected to the decision to issue the pardon. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fidel Bushito
-Caveat Lector- I think Castro - having survived multiple USA Presidents - has in mind the Bushito-body-count as set out below. Alfred Webre = http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/home.html BUSH BODY COUNT If the Dead Could Speak This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been called Witnesses had they not met their untimely deaths. All these people were associated with the name of Bush, and coincidence aside, did not live to tell the tale. Some of the names on this list will give you pause. Some are rumor. Some you may find incredible, and some ridiculous. Do your own research. You will draw your own conclusions. I make no assertion but this: If the dead could speak, perhaps the loudest and most tragic voice would be that of Democracy, who died December 12, 2000, when the Supreme Court of the United States stopped a legally mandated count of ballots, votes that had never been counted, effectively appointing Bush to the White House, even as it became ever more clear that he was not the true winner. Subsequent media recounts have shown that Al Gore was indeed the winner of the popular vote of Florida and hence the Presidency of the United States, but it appears as though the fix was in. Ask yourself, can they get away with it? The answer - only if you let them. Spread the word: George W. Bush is not our President. http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bodies.html Paul Wilcher His partially decomposed body was found in his home, still seated on the toilet. According to the Washington Times, "...he was investigating the theory of an 'October Surprise' conspiracy during the 1980 federal election campaign. He had been interviewing an inmate who claimed to have piloted George Bush to Paris so he could secretly seek to delay the release of 52 American hostages in Iran." Sid Adger Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of unknown causes. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard. General James Rose General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of unknown causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed. Orlando Letelier He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post- Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED. Ronni Moffit She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't. Amiram Nir He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent. Senator John Tower He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian. Mario Ruiz Massieu An apparent suicide, Massieu was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by cocaine cartels. Steve Kangas His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away. Mohammed Zia al-huk Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists like Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept
[CTRL] NYT: New Bush Office Seeks Closer Ties to Church Groups
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/29/politics/29FAIT.html January 29, 2001 New Bush Office Seeks Closer Ties to Church Groups By FRANK BRUNI and LAURIE GOODSTEIN WASHINGTON, Jan. 28 ó President Bush has selected a University of Pennsylvania professor of political science to head the first federal office intended to promote the integration of religious groups into federally financed social services, several Bush advisers said today. The advisers said the opening of the office and the appointment of John J. DiIulio Jr. to fill it would almost certainly be announced at a White House event on Monday, and they acknowledged that it would draw heated opposition from organizations and religious groups that advocate a strict separation of church and state. But the encouragement and government financing of faith-based programs was a signature campaign issue for Mr. Bush, who has said he reads the Bible every day. And the decision to entrust the new federal office in charge of that effort to Mr. DiIulio, a widely published expert on juvenile crime with impressive academic credentials, is an example of the political caution with which the Bush administration will proceed. The choice of Mr. DiIulio, in fact, is only one of several ways in which Mr. Bush and his aides are trying to blunt any impression that what the president is doing amounts to an evangelical endeavor. "John is a social scientist who believes in empirical evidence," said one Bush adviser, stressing Mr. DiIulio's focus on provable results from faith-based social programs that address problems like substance abuse, youth violence and teenage pregnancy. The adviser also emphasized that Mr. DiIulio does not see faith-based programs "as a panacea," but rather as one arrow in a quiver with plenty of others. In addition to Mr. DiIulio, the other central figure in the effort is Stephen Goldsmith, the former mayor of Indianapolis who was the chief domestic policy adviser for Mr. Bush's presidential campaign. Several Bush advisers said Mr. Goldsmith would be the chairman of a new national advisory board whose work will complement that of the new federal office. Mr. Goldsmith will also serve as an official adviser to Mr. Bush on the issue. Mr. Bush and his aides do not want the proposals related to faith-based programs that they unveil to seem too driven by religion. Indeed, the president's goal is to find new ways for the federal government to encourage private charities ó including but not limited to religious groups ó to provide more social services. To that end, the title of the new federal office will allude not just to faith-based programs but also to community initiatives, although several advisers said the order in which the words "faith" and "community" would be placed was under debate. Additionally, Mr. Bush has invited not only leaders of faith-based groups but also the heads of other not-for-profit organizations to meet on Monday morning at the White House to kick off a week of events intended to describe and promote the president's vision. The guest list, according to one of the people on it, includes the Rev. Stephen E. Burger, executive director of the Association of Gospel Rescue Missions; Sara E. Melendez, president and chief executive officer of Independent Sector, a coalition of nonprofit organizations and foundations; and Millard Fuller, founder and president of Habitat for Humanity International, the ecumenical house-building group. "It is about faith-based institutions, but it's also about more than that," said another Bush adviser, referring to Mr. Bush's plan to encourage private groups to administer more of the kinds of local programs often provided by government. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] UPI: Intelligence failures and the death of the 18 Rangers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=155481 Friday, 26 January 2001 21:12 (ET) Intelligence failures and the death of the 18 Rangers By Richard Sale, Terrorism Correspondent WASHINGTON, Jan. 26 (UPI) -- Osama bin Laden, the Saudi-born Islamic terrorist suspect sought by the United States in connection with the August 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, had months earlier been linked to the 1993 deaths of 18 U.S. Rangers in Somalia. A Justice Department indictment of those responsible, however, was suppressed and no action taken, U.S. intelligence sources revealed Friday. The Rangers were part of an abortive U.S. attempt on Oct. 3, 1993, to kidnap two top lieutenants of Somalia's strongman Gen. Mohammed Farrah Aidid. The original CIA plan had been to use a 10-man force, but this was put off by the U.S. military leadership, and the next day a larger force of 160 Delta operators and Rangers was sent in its place. The task force was ambushed and 18 Rangers killed by militia trained by bin Laden, according to former U.S. military and intelligence sources with close knowledge of the incident. Postponement of the "snatch" of the two aides was a "major blunder," according to a U.S. participant in the incident who asked not to be named. According to former U.S. intelligence officials, bin Laden was secretly indicted for the Ranger killings in 1997. "I personally discussed the indictment with the FBI," one former U.S. government source said. But the indictment was later "torn up" and then made part of a public indictment of bin Laden and 17 co-defendants filed in 1998 by the Justice Department following the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in which 224 people died. The Ranger murders are mentioned specifically on pages 18 and19 of that indictment. According to former U.S. military sources, the U.S. military leadership, led by Adm. Jonathan Howe, senior officer of the U.N. peacekeeping force in Somalia, believed that Aidid's Somalia National Alliance forces were behind the July 12 murder of Pakistani troops in the U.N. force, and that the warlord should be captured and tried as a war criminal. Howe requested a Ranger force to hunt Aidid down. By the early summer of 1993, Aidid began an escalation. There were attacks by Islamic detachments operating out of Aidid-held areas of Mogadishu on U.N. forces, and on June 5, 24 Pakistani soldiers were ambushed and killed. The U.N. promptly declared the SNA "an outlaw faction," according to one U.S. official. On June 12, Aidid and several of his aides left Mogadishu for Khartoum where they attended a People's Arab and Islamic Conference chaired by Hassan Abdallah al-Turabi, a Sudanese leader who sponsored terrorism against the United States and backed the spread of Islam throughout the Horn of Africa, according to U.S. official who spoke to United Press International on condition of not being named. This source said that Turabi had ties to Abdul-Rahman Ahmad Ahmad Ali Tour who had proclaimed the Islamic code or Sharia as the law of Somalia and had henceforth received financial and military aid from Iran and Sudan. "Certainly Gen. Aidid was receiving some technical and logistical aid from Sudan as part of a fledgling military alliance in 1992," this source said. The decision to fight U.S. forces in Somalia was a direct result of Sudan's strategy, according to a U.S. government analyst. Robert Oakley, former U.S. ambassador to Somalia, disagrees, but he concedes that Sudan was very nervous about U.S. intervention: "The Sudanese thought that they were next, that after we were finished in Somalia we would strike at Sudan." The Hezbollah -- the fundamentalist Islamic militia -- for example, published documents at the time alerting factions that Sudan was really the next U.S. target. "It was a totally mistaken idea," he said. But whatever the reason, Aidid began amassing his assets, with Turabi supplying weapons, men and military supplies, according to U.S. officials. According to U.S. government sources there is general agreement that bin Laden was not the master mind or the grand strategist but rather the logistical officer. He had hidden Arab Afghans -- the Islamic volunteer fighters from all over the Middle East who had fought against the Russians during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan -- on his "farms' in Sudan, and he had also smuggled large amounts of money into Ethiopia and Eritrea for purchases of supplies for "Afghan" forces. These sources said that bin Laden led a clandestine effort to move militant "Afghans" into Somalia through third countries like Ethiopia and Eritrea, providing lodging, trucks, fuel water, weapons, ammunition, explosives and medical kits, and establishing resupply points. According to current and former U.S. intelligence sources, the on-site commander and field coordinator in Mogadishu, working with Aidid, was Ayman al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian militant who is
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-Caveat Lector- From http://128.121.216.19/justin/pf/p-j012901.html Embedded linques at site }Begin Behind the Headlines by Justin Raimondo Antiwar.com January 29, 2000 Lying About Kosovo The Kosovo war is over or is it? yet the battle for the hearts and minds of world opinion on the matter rages anew. As the West begins to confront the monster it created in Kosovo as well as the rising horror of the "depleted" uranium mass poisoning in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Serbia the UN's International Criminal Tribunal on war crimes in the former Yugoslavia (ICTFY) has launched a ferocious campaign to drag Slobodan Milosevic to The Hague, preferably in chains, to be put on trial for war crimes. Like the Wicked Witch of the West, circling the fabled city of Oz on her broomstick shrieking "Surrender Dorothy!," ICTFY chief inquisitor Carla Del Ponte is demanding that the Yugoslav government extradite the former Yugoslav strongman and her amen corner in the West, including the US State Department and the American and European media, are baying for old Slobo's scalp. But is it really his scalp they're after? THE WITCH REBUFFED The real objective of all this caterwauling is the ritual humiliation and political marginalization of Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica. For the demand to surrender Miloevic is sure to cause fissures in the fragile pro-government coalition, and pose a direct challenge to the authority of the new President, who has always spoken out against the Tribunal as a "political instrument." If the NATO-crats thought Kostunica was going to cave, they were bound to be sorely disappointed: as Antiwar.com columnist Nebojsa Malic pointed out in his last "Balkan Express" column, the occupiers of Kosovo don't seem to realize whom they're up against. Kostunica turned the Spanish harridan out on her ear, to the applause of his own people and the horrified exclamations of the "international community." Retaliation was not long in coming. THE WITCHING HOUR After she picked herself up off the floor, the Witch was alternately whining and threatening, averring that President Kostunica was "not properly informed" about her kangaroo court and saying that "dialogue [with him] was not possible. I tried for half-an-hour to explain about the tribunal. I had to sit and listen to his long complaints." The imperious Del Ponte usually does not have to listen to anybody, and she clearly did not like it one bit, quickly reverting to threat mode: "He can and must change his mind," she hissed. "Full cooperation with my office cannot be avoided if Yugoslavia wants full membership in the international community. If there is no cooperation, new sanctions can be imposed." Yes, but not without the cooperation of the United States. Will Dubya, who campaigned on a promise to get us out of the Balkans and burbled about "humility" as a guiding principle of our foreign policy go along with the Witch's sanctions? SURPRISE, SURPRISE Unfortunately, the answer appears to be yes. I'm not surprised, and if you were reading this column during the recent election campaign, you won't be too taken aback by the news either. As I pointed out at the time Bush was flat-out lying to our faces: Dubya's Kosovo deception was a ploy to lull conservative opponents of globalism into believing that, on Election Day 2000, they could safely vote Republican without having to worry about the foreign policy consequences all that much. The Bushies made vague noises about getting out of Kosovo, and even now is sending signals that Republicans have reason to hope for a less activist foreign policy: the spinners never sleep and the lies never stop. For now that the ICTFY and its media allies are launching a major propaganda blitz designed to re-demonize the Serb and, perhaps, set them up for another drubbing-Team Bush is playing right along. NPR.GOV A recent documdrama staged by the US government-owned-and-operated National Public Radio alleges that the Serbs, in order to cover up their alleged war crimes during the Kosovo civil war, had burned thousands of bodies in the Trepca mines. The OSCE immediately denied that this was even a possibility, but that didn't stop a spokesman for Bush's State Department from endorsing NPR's unsourced and highly propagandistic report. The NPR piece had barely hit the airwaves when US government spokesman Richard Boucher told the Associated Press that "information obtained by the US government beginning in 1999 confirms there were massive killings 'and there were attempts to burn bodies and otherwise cover up evidence at places throughout Kosovo.'" NOT A TRACE But OSCE spokeswoman Claire Trevana was quite clear about the unreliability of the NPR story: "Our people have
Re: [CTRL] Fidel Bushito
-Caveat Lector- Yes, forget about the Bush legacy and blame it on the commies. Steve On 29 Jan 01, at 1:58, DIG alfred webre wrote: -Caveat Lector- I think Castro - having survived multiple USA Presidents - has in mind the Bushito-body-count as set out below. Alfred Webre = http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/home.html BUSH BODY COUNT If the Dead Could Speak This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been called Witnesses had they not met their untimely deaths. All these people were associated with the name of Bush, and coincidence aside, did not live to tell the tale. Some of the names on this list will give you pause. Some are rumor. Some you may find incredible, and some ridiculous. Do your own research. You will draw your own conclusions. I make no assertion but this: If the dead could speak, perhaps the loudest and most tragic voice would be that of Democracy, who died December 12, 2000, when the Supreme Court of the United States stopped a legally mandated count of ballots, votes that had never been counted, effectively appointing Bush to the White House, even as it became ever more clear that he was not the true winner. Subsequent media recounts have shown that Al Gore was indeed the winner of the popular vote of Florida and hence the Presidency of the United States, but it appears as though the fix was in. Ask yourself, can they get away with it? The answer - only if you let them. Spread the word: George W. Bush is not our President. http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bodies.html Paul Wilcher His partially decomposed body was found in his home, still seated on the toilet. According to the Washington Times, "...he was investigating the theory of an 'October Surprise' conspiracy during the 1980 federal election campaign. He had been interviewing an inmate who claimed to have piloted George Bush to Paris so he could secretly seek to delay the release of 52 American hostages in Iran." Sid Adger Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of unknown causes. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard. General James Rose General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of unknown causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed. Orlando Letelier He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post- Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED. Ronni Moffit She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't. Amiram Nir He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent. Senator John Tower He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian. Mario Ruiz Massieu An apparent suicide, Massieu was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by cocaine cartels. Steve Kangas His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away. Mohammed Zia al-huk Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all
