Re: [CTRL] Settlers being killed,kidnapped and robbed byIslamicmilitantgrou...

[Aleisha Saba]

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Well Prudy since my name was drawn into this, let me say this - Joshua
is anti-semite.

Always has been - always will be; he no doubt is still lurking on
militia lists and reporting to the ADL...

He Joshua - think youi scared the militias?

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] FR: Condit's polygrapher Barry Colvert says Ron Carey passed lie test

[Aleisha Saba]

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Is this the same "expert" who gave Condit the test?

Wonder how the guy would do taking an official police polygraph test?

Two edged sword cuts both ways.

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Re: [CTRL] Chandra: Computer generated photos (fwd)

[Aleisha Saba]

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Well if that picture of Chandra is not enough to bring her out of hiding
I do not know what would for let us say,  the professional glamour poses
was really touched up.

Condit is no great prize either, but he sure knows how to take advantage
of the young girls.

Saba

That picture was awfulterrible.

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[CTRL] Condit's website advertising for interns

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http://www.house.gov/gcondit/intern_opportunities.htm

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[CTRL] Fwd: United States Treaties

[Aleisha Saba]

Here is page re treaties, etc.   By what authority did Clinton pull this
stuff?

His Executive Orders, the minute he went out of office, so did his
Executive Orders for they can be changed by a new President.

The UN has no authority over this country or its citizens; and as for
tests and qualifications to enter this country, it seems perhaps it is
about time some of these laws were enforced, and the illegal entries
dumped back from whence they came.

Always thought treaties were something you signed after a war or seirous
dispute - for when we enter into a treaty with the UN we are entering
into treaties with our enemies and we are out numbered.

While we entertained Elian Castro and the UN Secretary were scheming
down in Cuba re sending immigrants from all over the world to the USA
for work and the condition of their emmigration to this country, they
must be non-whites - as Emma Lazaras said, give us the refuse from your
shores and Castro already did that once when he sent his garbage to
American from the prisons - killers, rapists, etc., and wonder if some
of them are not still b eing held in "concentration" camp structures?
Remember one man holding up a cardboard sign with the masonic G years
ago who wante out.

You can pull up treaties, etc. under subject mater if interested but I
for one do not recognize this UN which is the joke of the century?   A
very costly joke but to me, it is another Murder Inc. glorified -
humaitarians with whips ..

Saba

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[CTRL] HSNS: Condit oversees some of nation's top secrets

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Scripps Howard News Service on the Web at:

http://www.shns.com


NATIONAL

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Condit oversees some of nation's top secrets

By MICHAEL DOYLE
McClatchy Newspapers
July 13, 2001

WASHINGTON - Private lives matter, in the intelligence world to which Rep.
Gary Condit enjoys special access.

As a member of the House intelligence committee, Condit oversees some of
the nation's most sensitive secrets. Usually, Americans are privy to such
information only after an extensive background investigation. But as a
congressman selected for the intelligence panel, Condit enjoys privileged
access without being subjected to investigators' standard questions about
his private life.

"The (background investigators') concern is about behavior that might make
an individual vulnerable to blackmail or coercion, such as behavior that
someone feels compelled to conceal," said Steven Aftergood, director of the
Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists.

Washington detectives now want to subject Condit to his first lie-detector
test, as part of their investigation into the disappearance of Washington
intern Chandra Levy. Their questions won't be the same as those asked by
security investigators. But the ongoing police probe and new allegations
about Condit's private life do shed new light on how a public man's private
behavior can intersect with national security interests.

In particular, the allegations that Condit had affairs with both Levy and
flight attendant Anne Marie Smith - and took special pains to keep those
affairs secret - showcases some highly specific guidelines for security
clearances.

As a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,
Condit, a California Democrat, automatically has access to information for
which security clearances with names like Top Secret and Special
Compartmentalized Intelligence normally apply.

Guideline D of the federal government's "Adjudicative Guidelines for
Determining Eligibility for Access to Classified Information specifically
notes that "sexual behavior is a security concern if ... it may subject the
individual to undue influence or coercion, exploitation or duress, or
reflects lack of judgment or discretion."

Some intelligence veterans are now stacking up these usual stringent
requirements for security clearances against the current allegations
concerning Condit's behavior.

Condit has not addressed Smith's allegations that they'd had a 10-month
affair. He has disputed her claim that he tried to get her to lie about it.
Condit's staff formerly denied he had an affair with Levy. Now, his
spokespersons neither admit nor deny an affair took place but say the
important issue is to focus on finding Levy.

Mike Lynch, Condit's chief of staff, referred questions about intelligence
committee matters to the intelligence committee staff, which did not return
calls seeking comment.

Condit did not have to face any background questions when House Minority
Leader Richard Gephardt named him to the House intelligence panel in 1999.
Like all members of the select panel, Condit essentially was granted a
courtesy clearance. For lawmakers, standards like Guideline D don't apply.

"Members are automatically cleared for access to almost all the information
developed by the various intelligence community agencies," said David
Skaggs, a former Democratic congressman from Colorado who served on the
House intelligence committee.

Condit and his fellow committee members keep a deliberately low profile.
They meet in what is essentially the soundproof attic of the Capitol, where
guards and locks are common but windows are not. Committee members,
including Condit, have typically voted to keep secret matters like the
total currently being spent on intelligence gathering.

"For all practical purposes, you're in a vault," Skaggs said.

Condit had no prior military or intelligence agency experience. He was
named to the panel by Gephardt as a sign of respect, as well as a sign of
leadership outreach to the conservative Democratic faction Condit helps
lead.

"He's a valued member of the committee, and I count on him," said Rep.
Porter Goss, the Florida Republican who chairs the panel. "He asks what I
would call questions on behalf of the American taxpayer ... and he has a
great deal of common sense."

In addition to authorizing the intelligence community's budget, estimated
to be about $30 billion a year, the 20-member panel conducts oversight
hearings. Non-lawmakers who want to know such sensitive information need
not only a background investigation, but also, sometimes, a lie-detector
test and periodic re-investigation.



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Re: [CTRL] ABCNews: Condit Passes Polygraph

[Aleisha Saba]

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I am wondering who gave the polygraph test; we know it was a retired FBI
Agent - and does he have his own polygraphy agency?

Reason - back in 1979 in Columubus, Ohio we had a Mayor who was accused
by his baby siitter of molesting her - the charge was sodomy.

Needless to say people were shocked and finally this man, who was an
attorney, hired a private agency to administer a lie detector test - he
would not take the police test - needless to say also, he passed.

One problem - the little girl, who was 13 or 14 yers old - the police
administered a polygraph test and this little girl passed the police
test.

One thing I noted however, not many people knew - the agency who gave
the test did considerable private work for the law firm in which the
Mayor had been or still was a partner.

I know a gentleman also who has polygraph agency - retired Detective -
and he once told me how these tests can be manipulated, etc.

Not that I do not trust a former retired FBI Agent - but this guy is now
a private citizen out to make a buck and no doubt he is hired by a lot
of government agencies, etc., to conduct these tests.

It would seem like the case mentioned above - well one test said the
Mayor was innocent he did nothing to the young girl; but the little
inexperienced babysitter had also passed the test too.

So the Mayor was not indicted but the Grand Jury did something which it
had never done before - it let the Defendant, the Mayor, go before the
Grand Jury to plead his case and of course the little girl was not
afforded this special treatment almost like ex parte hearing?

Who is to say who lied?  The father was angry and very upset - lthe
night in question the Mayor had been drinking.

This ruined the political career of this man - for the chances at the
time were good, he would be running for Govenor.

I would like to know if the police were involved in this test or was
this a typical independent lie detector test?

Once I sat in a court hearing and watched a man who did hand writing
analysis for the Secret Service who was treated like big
deal.involved a big contractor saying we had forged signatue on our
petitions.

So I was sitting there and listening to this man testify - and he
dropped his work for the Secret Service twice, and this sounded so
impressive as for his qualification - right?

I was sitting there half asleep, it was so boring - when suddenly I
heard him say something and then more - and without thinking I said "Why
- he's lying".everybody froze, my friend elbowed me - but our
attorney froze and looked at me and then went after that guy and made a
fool out of him, for he then recognied the fact that this man had been
hired by the contractor and he had no official connection with the
Secret Service and he was slanting his findings to suit his master.

We won the case - but all this respect being shown this man was beyond
belief...

So who was this FBI guy - 30 years experience in polygraph work?   So my
friend had 30 years in polygraphy work when he told me, that tests can
managed.

Do I think Condit killed Chandra?   No -  hopefully she is getting some
good old fashined revenge..do I believe Condit had sexual relations
with this black woman  - no, not if he rode with the Hells Angels.

Wonder if Eastern Stars, the busy bodies are at work here?

Regardless, Condit has had it.

Saba

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Stop Bill Clinton and the UN!]

[BB]

Could things get any worse?  Will we EVER be rid of this guy?
I cannot IMAGINE that we will EVER see the last effects
of this communist that was once our President.
We need to act on this or forever live with the results.
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Subject: Stop Bill Clinton and the UN!


TREACHEROUS CLINTON REPORT CREATES CRISIS

OVER SUPREMACY: U.S. CONSTITUTION OR U.N. TREATY?

Just when you thought you had heard the last of Bill
Clinton.  Just when you thought you had heard the last of
his treachery and his secret attempts to circumvent the
Constitution and the rule of law.  Just when you thought you
had heard the last of the way he insults the United States
and its most revered institutions when he is on foreign
soil.

Now comes shocking news from the United Nations!  New
information from Geneva, Switzerland reveals that Bill
Clinton filed a stealth report with the United Nations to
circumvent the U.S. Supreme Court.  As a result, that
Clinton Report could cause an unprecedented constitutional
crisis when some claim that U.N. Treaty obligations trump
U.S. Constitution provisions.

In 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled, in Adarand
Constructors, Inc. v. Peña, that Congress may not
willy-nilly use racial quotas and preferences: "We are one
race here; it is American!"  Experts say the ruling means an
end to racial quotas and the dawn of the dream of a
color-blind Constitution.

Clinton was furious with that ruling.  So furious, he vowed
he would "not end" racial quotas and preferences.  In fact,
he sent one of his top officials to tell the Senate that he
would not obey the Supreme Court until it issued a second
ruling!  Can you imagine the arrogance of that testimony?

Millions of Americans, including judges, knew Clinton and
his lawyers were stonewalling the Supreme Court.  Three
judges at a federal appellate court fumed:  "[T]he integrity
of the judicial process has been compromised [because
Clinton's] United States Attorney [has been forced to
choose] between allegiance to politics and service to the
court..  The uncomfortable sense that the rule of law was
sacrificed to politics is all but escapable."

But stonewalling the federal judiciary was not the only way
Clinton was fighting to save racial quotas and preferences.
While his first way was bold and brazen, his second way was
sly and sneaky.  And it was classic Clinton; after all,
Clinton quibbled over the definitions of "is," "alone," and
"false."

In 1994, the U.S. Senate ratified a treaty called the
International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of
Racial Discrimination (ICERD).

The Treaty did just what it said; it barred each and every
form of racial discrimination.  No quotas, no preferences,
no type of racial discrimination!

Clinton saw an opening.  While the American people were
watching the close presidential election of 2000, the
Clinton Report was submitted to the United Nations.  As
interpreted by the Clinton Report, the racial quotas and
preferences that had been barred by the Treaty not only
would be permitted, they would be required!  The Clinton
Report turned the Treaty on its head!

That's not all.  In the Clinton Report, Clinton impugned
the Supreme Court, openly attacking its recent decisions.
It was bad enough that Clinton stonewalled the Court.  Now,
before foreign nations, he openly assailed it!

It gets worse.  Because the Constitution places treaties on
a par with the Constitution, the Treaty, as interpreted by
the Clinton Report, could place the Treaty in direct
conflict with the rulings of the Supreme Court.  Imagine
that, the United Nations would be telling the United States
that on matters of racial quotas and preferences, the
ultimate authority is not the Constitution, as interpreted
by the U.S. Supreme Court, but a Treaty, as interpreted by
Clinton and as enforced by the U.N.  This could cause a
constitutional crisis unlike any in our history, especially
since it involves the volatile issue of race!

If you don't think the United Nations would foment such a
crisis, consider two things.  First, the unceremonious way
the U.S. was dumped from the U.N. Human Rights Commission
after European "allies" assured the U.S. that they would
vote to keep the U.S. on the panel.  Second, the ungracious
way President George W. Bush was received on his June visit
to Europe; one writer described it as "a European orgy of
anti-Americanism [and] Yankee-bashing . not seen since the
days of Ronald Reagan."

Can it get any worse?  Yes!  Remarkably, the very Clinton
official who gave the Clinton Report to the U.N. is still
our representative on the Treaty.  That's not all.  She has
assembled a powerful team of non-governmental organizations
(NGOs) that favor racial quotas and preferences to help her
lobby for approval of the Clinton Report.  Worst yet, she
will argue f

Re: [CTRL] Who Cares What You Think?

[lassey]

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And why would this person think anyone would care what she thinks
(or made up)?
Stuff it.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:00:02 -0700 Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Who Cares What You Think?
> From Ariel Ky
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>7-12-1
>
>   A friend of a friend met the President
> during his inspiring
>   stop in Independence Park in Philly last
> Wednesday.
>   Here's her account: So when the President
> was here on
>   July 4, I had the opportunity to shake his
> hand. I wasn't
>   sure if that was a good idea or not but I
> did it anyway, and
>   said to him, "Mr President, I hope you
> only serve four
>   years. I'm very disappointed in your work
> so far."
>
>   He kept smiling and shaking my hand but
> answered,
>   "Who cares what you think?" His face
> stayed photo-op
>   perfect, but his eyes gave me a look that
> said, if we'd
>   been drinking in some frathouse in Texas,
> he'd've happily
>   answered, "Let's take it outside." A nasty
> little gleam. But
>   he was (fortunately) constrained by
> Presidential propriety.
>
>   But that was the end of it until I turned
> away and started
>   scribbling the quote down in my notepad,
> so as to
>   remember the "Gift" forever. When he saw
> me do that, he
>   got excited and craned his neck over the
> rubberneckers
>   to shout at me, "Who are you with? Who are
> you with?"
>   People started looking, so he made a joke:
> "Make sure
>   you get it right." But he kept at it: "Who
> do you write for?" I
>   told him I wasn't "with" anybody and
> pointed to one of his
>   staff people who knows me a little, and
> said, "Ask him,
>   he'll tell you." Then I split.
>
>   Half an hour later, my boss (who had
> helped organize the
>   event we were at) came up to me and said,
> "Did you
>   really tell the President that he was
> doing a 'lousy fucking
>   job'?"
>
>   "No way," I said, "I was very polite, I
> just told him what I
>   thought."
>
>   Fortunately, he believed me. He wasn't
> happy with me,
>   but he believed me.
>
>   But anyway, if you ever wondered if the
> Prez really is kind
>   of a jerk, I'm here to tell you, he is,
> and I got The Gift to
>   prove it. I'm thinking of making up
> t-shirts so we can share
>   The Gift with everyone:
>
>   "Who cares what you think?" - President
> George W.
>   Bush, July 4, 2001
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[CTRL] Dubya Falls for Global Warming Scam

[Nakano Nakamura]

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Note:  This is being retransmitted because I
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--- Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Bush Details Studies on Global Warming

 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web
 sites) said on Friday his  administration will invest
 tens of millions of dollars in studies to see how
 best to fight global warming.-- the White House said
 it was moving forward on studies to see how best to
 reduce greenhouse gases.
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Nakano comments:
Oh boy.looks like Dubya is reading from the
same bogus script that Clinton and Al Gore used.
He is going to spend "tens of millions of dollars"
(and these are our tax dollars friends)...to see
how to fight something that arguably doesn't exist.

Heck, I've already done "studies".
I will gladly turn over the results of these studies
for the low low price of just one million dollars.
If the question is "how best to reduce greenhouse
gases?", I can save the government a lot of our
money.  They just need to carefully read and grasp
the following: (By Fred L. Oliver February 1, 2001
http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/cooling.htm)

"An average of only 2% of the atmosphere (including
water vapor) is composed of greenhouse gases. Over 90%
of that 2% of GHG emissions are from natural causes
(not man made); less than 5% of the 2% are man made
GHG. Of that remaining 1/10 of 1%, CO2 from the
burning of fossil fuels account for only a small
portion of the .04% of CO2 in the total atmosphere.
The CO2 derived from such human energy use cannot be
reduced to near zero until there is a viable,
reliable, major new source of energy that does not
produce CO2 . Human life on earth cannot be maintained
with the current population without the use of
electrical power and other energy from fossil fuels.
CO2 remains a miniscule amount of GHG trace gases and
should not be expected to provide a major effect on
Global Climate change from major reductions in the
minor amount of extracted man made atmospheric CO2.
Changes in Water Vapor, variation of solar output,
changes in the earth’s tilt, rotation, the location
and magnitude of the jet stream, and the variable
travel of the earth in an ellipse around the sun , all
have much greater continuing effect on changes in the
climate. Life on earth will be benefited if water
vapor and related air circulation are increased in the
atmosphere by additional global warmth."
 Regards to All
   Nakano




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Re: [CTRL] Bush Details Studies on Global Warming

[Nakano Nakamura]

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--- Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Bush Details Studies on Global Warming

 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web
 sites) said on Friday his  administration will invest
 tens of millions of dollars in studies to see how
 best to fight global warming.-- the White House said
 it was moving forward on studies to see how best to
 reduce greenhouse gases.
__

Nakano comments:
Oh boy.looks like Dubya is reading from the
same bogus script that Clinton and Al Gore used.
He is going to spend "tens of millions of dollars"
(and these are our tax dollars friends)...to see
how to fight something that arguably doesn't exist.

Heck, I've already done "studies".
I will gladly turn over the results of these studies
for the low low price of just one million dollars.
If the question is "how best to reduce greenhouse
gases?", I can save the government a lot of our
money.  They just need to carefully read and grasp
the following: (By Fred L. Oliver February 1, 2001
http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/cooling.htm)

"An average of only 2% of the atmosphere (including
water vapor) is composed of greenhouse gases. Over 90%
of that 2% of GHG emissions are from natural causes
(not man made); less than 5% of the 2% are man made
GHG. Of that remaining 1/10 of 1%, CO2 from the
burning of fossil fuels account for only a small
portion of the .04% of CO2 in the total atmosphere.
The CO2 derived from such human energy use cannot be
reduced to near zero until there is a viable,
reliable, major new source of energy that does not
produce CO2 . Human life on earth cannot be maintained
with the current population without the use of
electrical power and other energy from fossil fuels.
CO2 remains a miniscule amount of GHG trace gases and
should not be expected to provide a major effect on
Global Climate change from major reductions in the
minor amount of extracted man made atmospheric CO2.
Changes in Water Vapor, variation of solar output,
changes in the earth’s tilt, rotation, the location
and magnitude of the jet stream, and the variable
travel of the earth in an ellipse around the sun , all
have much greater continuing effect on changes in the
climate. Life on earth will be benefited if water
vapor and related air circulation are increased in the
atmosphere by additional global warmth."
 Regards to All
   Nakano




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[CTRL] GLOBAL WARMING OR GLOBALONEY?

[Nakano Nakamura]

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THE FORGOTTEN CASE FOR GLOBAL COOLING
By Phil Brennan

Cooling? Global refrigeration instead of Global
barbecuing? You bet. And there's a heck of a lot more
solid scientific evidence that what the world is
facing is the onset of a new ice age than there is
behind the very fragile global warming theory.
Up until the mid-Seventies there was general agreement
among researchers, who studied such arcane signs of
the far distant past as sedimentary deposits on the
ocean floor, that sooner or later a new ice age was in
the cards for this planet. Even the CIA signed on to
the idea that the iceman cometh.
The idea that an ice age was approaching was based on
history, not hysteria -- the motivating force behind
global warming studies. And what history taught
paleoclimatological scientists engaged in what is
known as quaternary research, is the incontrovertible
fact that the earth has experienced a long series of
ice ages occurring as regular as clockwork -- 100,000
years of glaciation followed by 10-to-12,000 years of
interglaciation.
There is, they maintained, no reason to believe that
what appears to be an immutable law of nature has
somehow been miraculously repealed and the cycle of
glaciation and interglaciation ended.
No reason, except for political expediency.

Here's a sample of the kind of thing that was being
discussed back in the mid-seventies by that part of
the scientific community that dealt with the
geological history of climate changes:
"The present interglacial interval -- which has now
lasted for about 10,000 years -- represents a climatic
regime that is relatively rare during the past million
years, most of which has been occupied by colder,
glacial regimes. Only during about 8 percent of the
past 700,000 years has the earth experienced climates
as warm or warmer than the present.
"The penultimate interglacial age began about 125,000
years ago, and lasted for approximately 10,000 years.
Similar interglacial ages -- each lasting 10,000 plus
or minus 2000 years and each followed by a glacial
maximum -- have occurred on the average every 100,000
years during at least the past half-million years.
"During this period, fluctuations of the northern
hemisphere ice sheets caused sea level variations of
the order of 100 meters." (Understanding Climate
Change, published by the National Academy of Sciences
in 1975 -- page 181).
On page 189 the question was asked: "When will the
present interglacial [period] end?
"Few paleoclimatoligists would dispute that the
prominent warm periods (or interglacials) that have
followed each of the terminations of the major
glaciations have had durations of 10,000 plus or minus
2000 years. In each case, a period of considerably
colder climate has followed immediately after the
interglacial interval.
Since about 10,000 years have passed since the onset
of the present period of prominent warmth, the
question naturally arises as to whether we are indeed
on the brink of a period of colder climate."
"The question remains unsolved."
A study prepared for the 95th Congress in 1978 agreed
with the National Academy of Sciences position as
explained in the above-quoted study. The document
Weather Modification: Programs, Problems, Policy and
Potential warned:
"In geological prospective, the case for cooling is
strong ... If this interglacial age lasts no longer
than a dozen earlier ones in the past million years,
as recorded in deep sea sediments, we may reasonably
suppose the world is about due to slide into the next
ice age."
The only question remaining is exactly when and how
glaciation will begin.
Remember, what we are dealing with here is historic
evidence -- not a widely disputed theory as is the
case with global warming.

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Re: [CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays,
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> This scenario doesn't account for Levy disappearing
> without the security cameras in her building
> picking up anything...even if this supposed Caribbean
> black male prostitute waited outside, Levy would have
> been seen leaving her apartment and the building...


Well, that would mean she (or her corps) had to be concealed somehow as
she/it left the building, or that she/it is still in the building, right?
Both scenarios seem to me to have an infinitesimal chance of being the
case??

And, a thorough search (i.e., 10 or more hrs. by a LARGE team, versus the 5
guys that were actually there to search for ONLY 3 hours) would have shown
at least some evidence if she was killed in the apartment (or building,
*if* it was searched?).

Btw, my understanding of forensic searches these days (and I have an
extensive chemisty and analytical instrumentation background, i.e., several
degrees and career in the sales of such) is that it is virtually impossible
to "clean up" after a violent act anymore so as to not have at least some
evidence of the violence revealed via a state-of-the-art, thorough forensic
search.

What's more, I would expect that if Condit didn't know this, that his team
of lawyers would!


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[CTRL] NM: D.C. Cops Obtained Sample of Condit Mystery Stain

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With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

For the story behind the story...


Friday, July 13, 2001 7:30 p.m. EDT

D.C. Cops Obtained Sample of Condit Mystery Stain


Over the objections of Rep. Gary Condit's attorney Abbe Lowell, Washington,
D.C., police took a sample from an unidentified red mystery stain that they
discovered on a pair of Condit's pants found during their search of his
apartment Wednesday morning, NewsMax.com has learned.

"They didn't take the pants, but they took a scraping from the pants," a
source familiar with the Chandra Levy investigation told NewsMax.com.

The Washington Times reported earlier this week that Lowell "repeatedly
challenged the search team and refused to let them take a pair of pants
that had a red stain," but made no mention of the scraping.

Rather than demand that Condit's attorney hand over the evidence intact,
investigators decided to compromise and take the scraping instead. "They
were just trying to get in and get out and avoid Abbe Lowell's griping,"
the source said.

The stain, decribed as a "splotch," was blood-like in appearance. "Of all
the things it could be, blood is definitely one of them," the source told
NewsMax.com.

"If they thought it was ketchup I don't think they would have bothered
taking the sample. They took it because they want to check to see if it's
blood and whose DNA it matches."

Lowell's spokeswoman Marina Ein did not return a call Friday about the red
mystery stain. On Wednesday, a D.C. police spokesman told NewsMax.com that
he would not discuss the evidence found in Condit's apartment.

A sample of the red mystery stain, along with other possible blood specks
spotted by the police search team in Condit's apartment, is now being
analyzed by the FBI Lab in Quantico, Va.


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[CTRL] CNN: Condit passed polygraph, lawyers to announce

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Condit passed polygraph, lawyers to announce

July 13, 2001 Posted: 4:36 PM EDT (2036 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- California Rep. Gary Condit's lawyers planned to
announce Friday that the congressman has taken and passed a polygraph test
in the disappearance of former intern Chandra Levy, CNN has learned.

No details of how the test was administered or what questions were asked
were immediately available.

Condit's lawyer, Abbe Lowell, planned an afternoon news conference to
discuss the results.

The California Democrat has been a focus of attention due to reports he had
an affair with the former federal Bureau of Prisons intern. News of the
lie-detector test came as as police renewed a search of abandoned buildings
in northwest Washington on Friday in an intensified effort to find Levy,
who was last seen April 30.

Washington Police Chief Charles Ramsey said his department would distribute
computer-generated pictures of Levy designed to show how she would look if
she had altered her appearance by changing her hair style or color.

Investigators planned to question some members of Condit's staff for a
second time, a law enforcement source said, but the time and location for
the interviews was unclear.

Ramsey offered a broadened view of operational police theories to explain
Levy's disappearance: foul play, runaway, lost and suffering amnesia,
suicide -- a possibility he had seemed to all but rule out earlier.

The young woman's mother, Susan Levy, said she strongly doubted her
daughter would commit suicide or become despondent over the possible
breakup of her relationship with Condit.

"I don't think she would harm herself. I have given her the reality of how
valued life is," Susan Levy said in a taping for the "America's Most
Wanted" television show scheduled to air Saturday night. "I think she could
have been saddened, but she would go on because she knew she had a future."

Susan Levy, whose Modesto, California, home is under 24-hour surveillance
by local sheriff's deputies, has said it was important for Democratic
lawmaker Condit to be forthcoming about what he knows of her daughter
during the days prior to April 30, when she was last reported seen.

"I'm not out to hurt anybody's political causes or anything like that. I am
just -- my husband and I -- are just, we're parents who want our daughter
home," she said.

Another California Democrat, Sen. Barbara Boxer, echoed the sentiment.

"Congressman Condit must put aside any considerations for himself and tell
all he knows about this case to law enforcement authorities without further
delay," she said. "He needs to be truthful and forthcoming with the
authorities to help them find Chandra and the authorities must get to the
bottom of this disappearance."

On Capitol Hill, Rep. Bob Barr, R-Georgia, became the first member of
Congress to call on Condit to resign, charging his House colleague has
"obstructed an ongoing police investigation."

"I believe he should resign rather than bring further discredit on the
House of Representatives," Barr said.

The conservative Barr was joined by the liberal magazine The New Republic,
which declared in an editorial that "Condit's fitness for public office
does not depend on the answers" in the Levy case.

"The first, precious days after a disappearance offer police and family
members their best chance to find a missing person; after that, the trail
usually goes cold," the magazine's editors wrote. "And those early days
were partly wasted because Representative Gary Condit cared more about his
political career than about the life of a woman he supposedly considered a
'good friend.' "

But House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, D-Missouri, urged Condit's critics
to hold off.

"I think it's inappropriate to draw judgments and make conclusions on what
may or may not be the facts," he said. "I think all of that will come in an
appropriate time."

Police searched a total of 19 abandoned buildings -- using cadaver dogs in
some cases -- by the end of the day Thursday, but no clues were found.

The search was concentrated in an area near the apartments of Levy and
Condit, who lived about a dozen blocks apart, and is expected to cover a
total of 80 buildings before it is finished.

The 24-year-old former intern was last reported seen at a Washington gym.
She had packed her bags and told her family she was coming home.

There was still no word on when or if the 53-year-old married Condit would
undergo a polygraph test.

Word of a romantic relationship between Levy and the congressman came from
Levy's aunt, who said the young woman spoke of the affair. In his third
interview with investigators, Condit himself confirmed the intimate
relationship, police sources said.

Publicly, Condit has said only that they were "good friends."

Ramsey said police were trying to reach an arrangement with Condit's
attorney, Abbe Lowell, on how a lie detector test might be administered and
its scope.

Federal prosecutors considered 

[CTRL] ABCNews: Condit Passes Polygraph

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/condit010713_pm.html

Condit Passes Polygraph

Sources: Condit Passes Test Commissioned by Lawyers

 Jennifer Thomas is shown in this undated yearbook photo
(ABCNEWS.com).


W A S H I N G T O N, July 13 - Rep. Gary Condit has taken and passed a lie
detector test commissioned by his legal team, sources tell ABCNEWS.

Until this afternoon, it had been unclear whether Condit, D-Calif., would
take a lie detector test as part of the investigation into the
disappearance of former intern Chandra Levy. Condit, who is 53 and married,
has admitted to police he had a sexual relationship with the 24-year-old
Levy.

Police said they had asked Condit to take an FBI-administered test.
Condit's attorney, Abbe Lowell, had said Condit would be willing to take a
polygraph, but he also discounted the effectiveness of such tests.

Lowell will hold a news conference on Condit's polygraph test later this
afternoon. He is expected to announce the congressman he passed the test.

News of the polygraph test comes hours after he turned over a DNA sample to
investigators. The sample could be useful because it would help eliminate
other DNA samples police may have found in Levy's apartment.

Meanwhile, staffers for Condit reportedly have said their boss denies
having a relationship with the daughter of a Pentecostal minister in
Modesto, Calif.

The minister, Otis Thomas, has told the FBI, as well as The Washington Post
and the Modesto (Calif.) Bee, that his daughter had an affair with Condit
beginning when she was 18 or 19.

Condit's chief of staff, Mike Lynch, said the congressman has denied having
any relationship with Thomas' daughter.

"He said this is just not true," Lynch told the Bee. "We've asked him about
the Post story and he said it's just not true."

Vince Flammini, Condit's former driver, also told the Bee that he never saw
the minister's daughter, Jennifer Thomas, and said Condit would never have
taken the young woman to his home in Ceres, Calif., as the minister claims.

"That's a bull [expletive] story," the driver said. "I worked for him all
through that time. I was his driver. I've never seen that girl in my whole
life."

The woman herself has also apparently denied her father's story. A note was
posted at her home, signed "Jennifer Thomas," saying that she did not know
anything about what her father was talking about and had no relationship
with the congressman.

Though it would seem Condit's reputation has been damaged by his admission
of an affair with Levy and reports of alleged affairs with two other women,
the congressman's chief of staff told the Modesto Bee that Condit plans to
run for re-election in 2002.

"We decided some time ago he would run," Lynch told the paper. "There's no
change in those plans."

Rep. Bob Barr today dispatched a letter to the House Ethics Committee
asking members to initiate a probe of Condit. On Thursday, the Georgia
Republican said he thought Condit should resign.

Meanwhile, police have expanded their search for Levy, looking in abandoned
buildings around the city and today began preparations to scour landfills
where trash from Levy's apartment building is dumped.

Police had already been looking into the criminal background of other
people who live in Levy's apartment building, and are now looking into
other members of the Washington Sports Club, where Levy was a member.

Lynch said the FBI had not interviewed anyone on Condit's staff and said he
was unaware of plans for such interviews.

Police Cmdr. Mark Beach said 80 buildings would be searched "at least
through the weekend," and said it was "just a natural part of the broader
investigative search" for the former intern.

"We are assuming that these dwellings are open, a number of people may have
access to them and we would be remiss if we didn't take a look at them," he
said, adding that some of the buildings had already been searched.

When asked whether the decision to go through the abandoned buildings, many
of them empty apartment complexes, meant police expected to find a body,
Beach said police were looking for "a body or anything at all."

Trying Out Other Theories

Investigators scoured some buildings on Thursday, accompanied by cadaver
dogs looking for remains. In addition, a team of nine police officers who
did not have cadaver dogs walked through a park near Condit's apartment.

Investigators are also testing several items removed from Condit's
apartment during a three-hour search carried out Tuesday night and
Wednesday morning.

In an interview with ABCNEWS, Assistant Police Chief Terrance Gainer said
investigators have not ruled out the possibility that Levy is still alive
and may have wandered off or purposely disappeared. Gainer said his office
hopes to release new composite photos of Levy to the public, just in case
the former intern has changed her appearance.

"Our hopeful theory [is] that maybe she's off on her own and we're still
explo

[CTRL] Chandra: Computer generated photos (fwd)

[MIKE SPITZER]

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- Original Message -
From: "Bill Nalty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Chandra: Computer generated photos


> http://www.mpdc.org/
>
> Missing Person:
> Chandra Ann Levy
> Update July 13, 2001
>
> The Metropolitan Police Department is exploring the possibility that
> Chandra Levy may have changed her appearance since she was first
> reported missing in May 2001. In the even that you see anyone who
> resembles these composites, please call the MPD at 202-727-2663.
>
> PHOTOS!!!
> http://www.mpdc.org/News/2001/0107/010713.htm
>

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[CTRL] WARNING!! DITCHWEED ALERT!!!!

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Annual Ditchweed Eradication Boondoggle Underway Again -- Feds
Spend $13 Million on Summer Jobs Program for Midwest Students,
Bored Cops
   http://www.drcnet.org/wol/194.html#ditchweed

"Feral cannabis," more commonly known as ditchweed, has been a
part of the rural landscape from Indiana to the Dakotas and down
as far as Texas for the last half-century.  The hardy,
opportunistic weed, descendant of the legally grown hemp of the
World War II era, lines roadside ditches, the edges of farm
fields and creek beds, and is an innocuous and generally
unremarked upon part of Midwest country life.

As countless Midwestern youths have discovered, the wild cannabis
lacks sufficient THC content to have any psychoactive effects.
"You'd have to smoke a joint the size of a telephone pole to get
high off that stuff," is a common refrain among those who have
tried it.  "You can get a sore throat and a headache, but you
can't get high."

The folk wisdom on ditchweed is right, said internationally
recognized cannabis expert Chris Conrad.  "This stuff is feral
cannabis left over from World War II when the US government
subsidized hemp farming to help the war effort," Conrad told
DRCNet.  "It doesn't have any psychoactive effects," he added,
"and that's been known since at least the 1970s."

But that has not stopped the Drug Enforcement Administration from
waging war on the harmless (and high-less) weed.  Since its
inception in 1979, the DEA's Domestic Cannabis Eradication/
Suppression Program has expanded rapidly from initial efforts in
California and Hawaii to now operate in all 50 states.  This
year's budget is $13 million.  While the DEA publicly touts the
number of cultivated plants it destroys -- it claimed to have
destroyed 3.5 million cultivated plants in 1999 -- the vast
majority of plants spotted and sprayed in the campaign are
ditchweed.

The DEA no longer releases figures for ditchweed seizures, but in
his book, "Marijuana in the Third World: Appalachia, USA,"
University of Kentucky sociologist Richard Clayton crunched
official numbers from the late 1980s and early 1990s.  "It is
important to examine carefully how much of the marijuana
eradicated in the US is essentially worthless ditchweed," wrote
Clayton.  "The answer is 95%."

Clayton's research is not the only to pan the DEA's eradication
efforts, nor the most damning.  A 1998 report by the Vermont
State Auditor placed the proportion of ditchweed in DEA's
marijuana eradication program even higher, at 99.28%
(http://www.drcnet.org/wol/041.html#ditchweed).

When asked by DRCNet this week about current ditchweed to
cultivated marijuana ratios, Clayton said, "Nobody knows for sure
now because there is no independent audit.  My guess is that
roughly the same proportion is ditchweed, which is useless from a
drug consumption point of view."

And if this year's campaign is any indication, a figure of that
order still stands.  According to reports in the Munster
(Indiana) Times: "It's marijuana season again, and that means law
enforcement officials have begun searching trenches, roadways and
farm fields in Northwest Indiana for the ditch weed."

Indiana's share of the DEA's $13 million comes to $330,000, which
it is using to employ a state trooper, a local farmer, and a crew
of college students to patrol the fields of Nothwest Indiana.
When the evil weed is spotted, the crew springs into action,
spraying the plants with herbicide, then watching them wilt.

"It's very difficult to kill," trooper Don Hartman told the local
paper.  "Once it goes to seed, it's spread by animals, birds or
the wind.  You have to actually destroy the seed and sterilize
it, but it's not possible.  We spray the plant but we have to
keep checking the same area to see if it's really gone."

While police are vigilant for ditchweed aficionados and warn area
farmers to be on the lookout, they don't seem to find many.  "A
few years ago, the jails were packed with people who came to pick
ditchweed," Hartman said.  "We'd get phone calls about strange
cars in the area or a hotel manager would call and say that
someone from a different state was there, and we'd do a
surveillance the next day.  That's not true anymore.  You don't
see people coming from all over the country.  We believe we've
had some success."

Or perhaps those unfortunate suburban Chicago kids finally got
the word about ditchweed.

The enthusiastic Hartman told the paper that in one year a decade
ago, police destroyed 23 million ditchweed plants in the state
with a value of $10 billion.  Sounds impressive, until one
considers that ditchweed has no value in the drug market.  This
would suggest a more modest value for the eradicated plants:
zero.  (Twenty-three million times zero still equals zero.)

Hartman added that the herbicide spray doesn't kill the plants
immediately.  If you smoke it after it has been sprayed, it won't
kill you, he told the Times, "but you won't get the same high."
The Times reported that Hartman "

Re: [CTRL] Settlers being killed,kidnapped and robbed byIslamicmilitantgrou...

[Nurev Ind.]

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 07/13/2001 2:17:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << >
>  > the funny thing of course is that jordan is as much palestine as israel,
> but
>  > no one cries to return to amman, or the fact that the "jordanians" are
>  > keeping the palestinans away from self rule as well >>
>
> Aren't we talking about two different countries here?

No. Actually we are not. It's just that you are an ignorant bigot.

> Why do you think that
> Jordanians are Palestinians?

Because over 60% of the population are Palestinians. Duh!

> Palestine was a country before it was given to
> the Jewish survivors of the Holocaust by a couple of countries with bad
> consciences.

Palestine was a country invented by the Romans in 70 CE to separate the
Jews they expelled from that region after the great revolt was lost. The
Romans replaced all the Jewish and Biblical names and called it Pallestina.
They expanded the coastal area called Philistia where the old Philistines
used to live.

Palestine was broken in two and given to the Hashemite Tribes of Arabia
by Sikes-Pico. The Brits and the French. They created Jordan from eastern
Palestine. EAst of the Jordan River.

> There are even Palestinian Christians and Jews, although the
> latter have no cause to complain about the present arrangement.

You have no idea what you are talking about. There are no Palestinian Jews.

> The Israeli
> tend to refer to all Moslems as "Arabs."

The Israelis refer to Arabs as Arabs. Palestinian Christians are Arabs. Iranian
Moslems are not Arabs. They know the difference and you are just talking out
your ass.

> Now this is very convenient for
> their efforts to dehumanize their designated enemy,

Arabs are an ethnic group. Calling Arabs Arabs is not dehumanization. Calling
the Chinese Chinese is not dehumanization. Unless they are ignorant bigots like
you.

> and I guess it makes it
> easier for them to torment and kill the general civilian population which
> they want to exterminate, but Palestine is Palestine and Jordan is Jordan.

What the hell are you babeling about? There is no Palestine. Israel is what
used to be Western Palestine, and Jordan is what used to be Eastern Palestine.
Find an old map Prudy, before you embarrass yourself further.

> Their populations are not interchangeable.  Prudy

With this post Prudy, you have achieved Sabahood.

J2

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[CTRL] AP: Senate colleagues boost Torch's defense fund

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Senate colleagues boost Torricelli defense fund

By Laurence Arnold, Associated Press, 7/13/2001 17:36

WASHINGTON (AP) Once cautious even with public expressions of support,
Senate Democrats are rallying around Sen. Robert Torricelli with donations
to help defray legal bills he has incurred as the subject of a federal
investigation.

In the past two months, Torricelli's legal defense fund received donations
from political committees affiliated with Sens. Tom Daschle of South Dakota
($10,000), Hillary Clinton of New York ($10,000), John Breaux of Louisiana
($2,000), Harry Reid of Nevada ($500) and Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts
($500).

The donations were listed in a report released Friday by Torricelli's
office.

In addition, Torricelli spokesman Dale Leibach said House Minority Leader
Richard Gephardt of Missouri recently gave $10,000 the maximum amount
allowed by law and the Democratic National Committee has promised a $10,000
contribution next week. ''I am grateful for the support I have received
from my colleagues in the House and Senate, and the leadership of my party,
throughout this long and costly investigation,'' Torricelli said in a
statement, also thanking the people of New Jersey. Daschle, in a statement
released by his DASHPAC, said Torricelli ''has forcefully stated that he
has done nothing wrong. I believe him and will support his every effort to
resolve this matter and put it behind him.''

Patti Solis Doyle, executive director of HILLPAC, said Clinton ''wanted to
help her friend and colleague in this way.''

Torricelli formed the defense fund last fall in response to an ongoing
federal investigation into his personal and political finances.
Torricelli has never been charged, but seven people have pleaded guilty to
making illegal donations to his 1996 Senate campaign.

For a time, Torricelli's Democratic colleagues appeared reluctant to go to
bat for him.

But that has changed in recent weeks as Torricelli has gone on the
offensive, accusing federal investigators of leaking damaging and
inaccurate allegations about him to the press.

Torricelli asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to name an independent
counsel to oversee the case, since Torricelli had a role in ousting
Ashcroft from the Senate last year. But Ashcroft has recused himself from
the investigation, and his deputy, Larry D. Thompson, rejected the request
for an independent counsel, leaving the case in the hands of Mary Jo White,
the U.S. attorney in Manhattan.

All told, Torricelli's legal fund collected $315,625 from 65 contributors
from April 1 through June 30. Over the same period it paid $295,920 to law
firms and an additional $5,460 in other expenses.

Since the fund was created last fall, it has raised more than $977,000 and
spent more than $704,000. Those figures are just a snapshot of the fund's
status at the end of June and do not mean Torricelli has raised more than
he needs.

Torricelli is paying some legal bills through a separate campaign account.
He has pledged to cover his own legal bills as well as those incurred by
aides who worked on his 1996 campaign for the Senate.

Roberta Stern, an executive assistant in Torricelli's Newark office, opened
her own legal defense fund in March and no longer receives assistance from
Torricelli's fund. Her latest report, also released Friday by her lawyers,
show she received $40,150 in contributions over the past three months and
spent $47,623.

Former New Jersey Reps. Frank Guarini ($2,000) and Herb Klein ($2,500)
were among the contributors to Torricelli's fund in the last three months.

The fund received $1,000 from Mark S. Hochberg of Roseland, whose wife,
Faith, was the U.S. attorney for New Jersey when the Torricelli
investigation began in 1995. Hochberg recused herself from the case after
Torricelli helped get her nominated to her current post as a federal judge
in Newark.

Casino developer Donald Trump gave $5,000. Dallas trial lawyers Frederick
Baron and partner Russell Budd gave $10,000 and $5,000, respectively.
Another Dallas law firm, Silber Pearlman, gave $10,000.

Also giving $10,000 each were Andrew McKelvey, creator of the monster.com
online job referral service and founder of Americans for Gun Safety;
Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications; and Camden
County, N.J., Democratic activist George Norcross.

On the Net:

Sen. Robert Torricelli:

http://www.senate.gov/(tilde)torricelli


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[CTRL] Vince Foster - Subject of Radio Show 7/14/01 (fwd)

[MIKE SPITZER]

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- Original Message -
From: "Susan L. McGuirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:16 PM
Subject: Vince Foster - Subject of Radio Show 7/14/01


> John Batchelor and Paul Alexander, will have a show
> dedicated to Vince Foster on Saturday night at 9:00PM.
> I heard them speaking of it this AM, on the radio, and
> they will examine the conspiracy theories regarding his
> demise. They will be heard on WABC radio, 770 AM.
>
> This Free Republic url, has a great Columbo scenario.
> Definite read!
>
> http://freerepublic.com/forum/a3b4f3db45b8c.htm
>

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[CTRL] Favish: Media Falsifies Condit's Impeachment Vote (fwd)

[MIKE SPITZER]

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- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:48 PM
Subject: Media Falsifies Condit's Impeachment Vote


> I have heard CBS radio news state that Condit voted for
> impeachment of Clinton.  I have also seen that
> allegation in print.  But he did not vote for
> impeachment.
>
> For his votes, see:
>
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/clinton/housevote/ca.h
tm
>
>
> I wonder if somebody can do a search of news stories to
> see how many have made this false claim.
>
> --
> _
> Regards,
>
> Allan J. Favish
> http://members.aol.com/allanf8702/page1.htm
>

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[CTRL] FR: Condit's polygrapher Barry Colvert says Ron Carey passed lie test

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b4f8c135b4e.htm


Condit's Polygrapher Barry Colvert: Teamster President Ron Carey passed lie
test, ex-FBI agent says


POLYGRAPHER BARRY COLVERT TEAMSTER PRESIDENT RON CAREY

Source: The Detroit News
Published: January 22, 1998 Author: Richard A. Ryan
Posted on 07/13/2001 17:02:27 PDT by Elle Bee


Thursday, January 22, 1998

Carey passed lie test, ex-FBI agent says

Polygraph supports claim he never knew about funding plan

By Richard A. Ryan
Senior Washington Correspondent


WASHINGTON -- A former FBI lie detector expert testified Wednesday that
Teamsters ex-President Ron Carey easily passed a polygraph test when asked
if he ever took part in a "swap scheme" that illegally diverted union funds
into his presidential campaign.

"I did not find indication of deception," said Barry Colvert, who retired
from the FBI a year ago after nearly 35 years. "And it really wasn't a
close call."

A short time later, Carey emphatically told a federal panel that he
"absolutely" was unaware of the scheme in which the Teamsters union
contributed money to organizations in exchange for their funneling money
into Carey's campaign.

The Independent Review Board, a three-member panel created by a 1989
agreement between the government and the Teamsters to monitor the union, is
conducting three days of hearings to determine if Carey should be thrown
out of the union he joined in 1955 and has led since 1992.

Meanwhile, the New York U.S. Attorney conducting a criminal investigation
of the tainted union election agreed to ask Jere Nash, Carey's chief
accuser, to appear at the Review Board hearing.

Nash, Carey's 1996 campaign manager, and Martin Davis, another top Carey
aide, pleaded guilty to taking part in the illegal money-laundering scheme
and are cooperating with the federal criminal investigation.

Nash implicated Carey in the plot. But Nash cannot be compelled to testify
before the Review Board and Frederick Lacey, a Review Board member who is
acting as chairman, said he was "not optimistic" he would appear.

Carey won a narrow victory over Detroit labor lawyer James P. Hoffa in the
1996 campaign. The election subsequently was overturned because of the
illegal diversion of funds and Carey was barred from running again. He
currently is on leave of absence as Teamsters president.

But independent polygraph consultant Colvert told the board he tested Carey
at the request of the labor leader's attorneys in late November.

In a control test, Colvert said, it was easy to determine when Carey
attempted to lie about a number he had picked between two and eight. The
expert agreed he "nailed him" on the number test. But on the real test
there was not the slightest indication that Carey was lying, Colvert said.

Charles Carberry, the Review Board's chief investigator, suggested Carey
may have been at ease during the test because he knew if he failed, the
results would remain secret. Moreover, Carberry said, Carey has told and
retold his story so many times to numerous investigating committees that he
may be able to fool the machine.

On the witness stand Wednesday, Carey retold his story once again.

He said he fully agreed with the Teamsters union contributing $475,000 to
Citizens Action; $175,000 to Project Vote and $85,000 to the National
Council of Senior Citizens because they were all good grass-roots
organizations that backed the same causes he did.

But he vigorously denied approving the actual contributions or knowing that
they were given only on the condition that the groups return a portion of
the money to Carey's presidential campaign.

Kenneth Conboy, a former federal judge who barred Carey from running for
re-election, said in his decision he found Carey's denial of not knowing
about such massive union gifts to be "incredible."


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Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted, Say Scientis ts

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--- Dale Stonehouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 "Freon causes depletion of the ozone layer, not
  global warming. Do your research before making
  stupid pronouncements."
_
Nakano comments:
It's unclear to me whether Dale or Steve made the
above statement about Freonbut the statement
is incorrect.
Freon does not cause depletion of the ozone layer.
It doesn't for the simple reason that there is
no Freon in the upper atmosphere.
This isn't what you have been told in the popular
media, but it's factual nonetheless.

There is a simple experiment you can perform to
test this for yourself.  A can of Freon isn't as
easily obtained as it was several years ago before
the government, the bribed scientists, and the
media hyped the bogus story about Freon destroying
the ozone layer.but you can still find a can
of Freon if you try.
Get some.
Put a valve on the can (the type used to add Freon
to an auto air conditioner).
Hold the can upright, so you don't release any
liquid Freon.
Nowfill an ordinary balloon with Freon gas.
You know how they put helium in balloons?
Same thing here.
Fill the balloon with Freon and then tie-off the
balloon so the gas can't escape.

Now you are ready for the experiment.

Release the balloon!

What happens?

The balloon will not soar like an eagle.
It won't even fly like a drunken turkey.
In fact, it will quickly fall to the ground.

Why?

Because Freon (and other related CFC's) are
5 times heavier than air.

FIVE TIMES HEAVIER THAN AIR!!!

If Freon is released into the air, the Freon
molecules will go to the ground and crawl into
the lowest hole available.

THERE IS NO FREON FLOATING AROUND 20 TO 40 MILES
HIGH IN THE SKY!

And since there is no Freon up there in the Ozone
Layer, it follows that the Ozone is not being
"depleted" by Freon.

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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

[Bill Howard]

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In a message dated 7/13/01 7:02:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Of course it would. Conservatives think that like them, EVERYBODY doesn't
like to screw. >>

You are confusing me with the English. No Sex Please! Unlike you liberals who
will screw anything.

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Re: [CTRL] STUDENT FACES EXPULSION FROM COLLEGE FOR WEARING SCOTTISH ATTIRE

[Nessie]

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>So the fact that someone found out that he had this knife at the school
dance shows that Mr. Hix had to have removed it from his kneesock at
some point during the dance...


The handle of a sgian-dhu sticks out of the top of the sock.




>You couldn't see it yesterday when Mr. Hix was sitting facing the
camera, with his leg crossed over the leg with the knife tucked in the
sock...not even a bulge in the sock.  

Camera angle.



>Not when the 'national regalia' includes a dangerous weapon.

What about Sikhs? Their religion requires they have a ritual dagger on
their person at all times.

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Re: [CTRL] Congress [doesn't] Hear Alien Life Testimony

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> From The AP,
> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010713/pl/life_out_there_2.html
> -
> Friday July 13 2:42 AM ET
> Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony
> By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) - Scientists studying the possibility of extraterrestrial
> life were encouraged by members of Congress, just seven years after some
> lawmakers dismissed the efforts as a search for ``little green men.''
>
> [snip]
> Smith said that since funds for the search for extra terrestrial
> intelligence (SETI) were booted out of the federal budget in 1994, ``the
> SETI credibility has been enhanced.''

I'll put you in touch with two sets of people I know who will give you
fresh evidence filmed DAILY in broad daylight at high resolution on
a 500 dollar digicam that ET life is here under our noses -


Bring it on!

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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

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Bill Howard wrote:
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> In a message dated 7/13/01 4:42:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) - President Daniel arap Moi has urged Kenyans to
> abstain from sex for at least two years to try to curb the spread of AIDS,
> newspapers reported on Thursday. >>
>
> Sounds like a ressonable request to me.
>
> BHoward
>

Of course it would. Conservatives think that like them, EVERYBODY doesn't
like to screw.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

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In a message dated 7/13/01 6:51:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I'll say between 0% and .05%. >>

That high?

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[CTRL] new science for the skeptics

[Andrew Hennessey]

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new science for the skeptics   andrew hennessey

much of the scientific skepticism that addresses theories of everything is
based or rooted in the assumption that the Universe is linear. No proLINEAR
skeptic could like what
follows.

The Universe is absolutely NON-LINEAR and behaves in an
irregular but classifiably harmonic [base8] way.
I might point out the fit between the 3 components of three
dimensions and how these 3 components produce the physics of harmony,
resonance and music - the maths of 8'ness.

I might illustrate that:
3 basic quarks red, green blue - give 8 photon packets
3 basic base pairs in DNA produce 8 building blocks
3 off/on sequences give silicon based Artificial Intelligence
that planets orbit at harmonic intervals, that stars and galaxies
fly across the cosmos with harmonic redshift -

but the linear-scientific skeptic will show that atomic theory isn't
precise, organic chemsitry isn't that precise, that nothing neatly fits into
clean cut boxes and therefore the whole idea is therefore wrong.
But it is the scientific skeptic that is a priori prejudiced with a belief
system that alleges that the cosmos is regular and smooth and linear and if
it doesn't fit - it doesn't fit and therefore the scientific skeptic on
those terms will happily dismiss from here to eternity any theory that
doesn't neatly fit into their clean cut linear box.

In my and Teslas opinion, however, the Universe is absolute non-linear
chaos - which builds up structure and breaks down structure - [a dynamic
duality between entropy and emergence]
There are 2 or 3 mathematical tools which can be used to begin again from
this fundamental truth.
It doesn't mean binning lots of good data - just ditch the un-unity in
physics and cosmology and adopt instead the Cornerstone Theories ;
1. of HARMONICS and Fourier transforms
2. Russell and Whiteheads SET THEORY

you see in a totally chaotic universe - no set of data is going to be
perfect - there are always going to be exceptions, but that the tools to cop
e with these exceptions already exist - its called SET THEORY - sets of
things with similar properties.
A combination of SET theory and HARMONIC theory could complete the theory of
relativity and enable mankind to step forward.
Used together it would show that although things can be
irregular and chaotic - they can be categorised into sets of roughly
harmonic patterns

For we have been standing still for nearly 100 years now in Cosmological and
Physics terms - yes lots of new medicine and biotech - but NO INTERSTELLAR
TRAVEL - no real physics - just tonnes and tonnes of stupid paradoxes -
which all actually turn out to be the same paradox just dressed up in
different jargon.
these scientific paradoxes are caused by taking things out of CONTEXT - a
classic symptom of reductionism.
Unless we can lose this reductionist mindset - the human race will just run
round and round in cyberspace waiting till the next big meteor comes along.

andrew hennessey
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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

[Nurev Ind.]

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Yardbird wrote:
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>
> No Sex for Two Years, Moi Urges Kenyan People

Anybody wanna take bets on what the compliance rate will be?

I'll say between 0% and .05%.

I'll bet one nickel.

J2

>
> http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20010712_167.html
>
> By Simon Denyer
> NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) - President Daniel arap Moi has urged Kenyans to
> abstain from sex for at least two years to try to curb the spread of AIDS,
> newspapers reported on Thursday.
>
> Moi was speaking after the government announced plans on Wednesday to
> import 300 million condoms to fight AIDS, a move which has drawn criticism
> from religious leaders.
>
> "As a president, I am shy that I am spending millions of shillings
> importing those things," Moi told a meeting of the Pharmaceutical Society
> of Kenya on Wednesday.
>
> As a further preventive measure, Moi pleaded with Kenyans to refrain from
> sex "even for only two years," saying that was the best way to check the
> epidemic.
>
> Kenyan Health Ministry experts estimate that 700 Kenyans die every day of
> AIDS, and a further 2.2 million are infected with HIV in a population of
> 30 million.
>
> The plan to import condoms ran into swift opposition from religious
> leaders who believe the government should be promoting abstinence more
> actively.
>
> "Importing such a huge consignment of condoms implies that the government
> sanctions promiscuity," said the Catholic Organization the Kenya Episcopal
> Conference in a statement. "The church is saddened to know that our
> government has given in to donor pressures clearly aimed at
> commercialising AIDS at the expense of the lives of our people," it said.
>
> The Secretary-General of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya,
> Sheikh Mohamed Dor, said the country was "committing suicide" importing so
> many condoms, a move he said would encourage young people to experiment
> with sex.
>
> Ultimately, he said, the young would abandon the condoms and have
> unprotected sex. "This will just increase the number of cases of AIDS," he
> told Reuters.
>
> WAKING UP TO THE CRISIS
>
> While some Kenyans on the streets of the capital Nairobi applauded Moi's
> call to abstain, others said they would continue to have sex and would not
> use condoms.
>
> "It's like eating a sweet with a wrapper, you cannot do that," said taxi
> driver James Karijoki. "You have to have sex, those who will die will die,
> and whoever does not get AIDS, then good for him," he said.
>
> But others said as the death toll mounted from AIDS, growing numbers of
> men were increasingly willing to use protection.
>
> "It's kind of hard to tell guys to keep off, so this measure of bringing
> in more condoms into the country is a pretty brilliant idea," said Wangui
> Wambugu, a young woman strolling down one of the main shopping streets.
>
> After a slow start, Kenya's government is finally beginning to wake up to
> the scale of the disaster confronting the East African country as a result
> of AIDS.
>
> In late 1999, Moi declared the epidemic a national disaster and set up a
> National AIDS Control Council.
>
> Last month, Kenya's parliament became only the second in Africa to pass
> legislation which would allow the country to import and manufacture cheap
> generic medicines.
>
> Moi also called last month for the death penalty for people who knowingly
> infect others with HIV/AIDS, to deter men from passing the disease to
> vulnerable younger women.
>

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Re: [CTRL] Sex trafficking in Israel threatens US aid (fwd)

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:
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> In a message dated 07/13/2001 7:47:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> << If the Israeli government does not take significant
>  steps to halt trafficking in women, it will face U.S.
>  sanctions. "Israel does not yet meet the minimum
>  standards for combating trafficking in persons, and
>  has not yet made significant efforts to combat the
>  problem," the State Department said in a scalding
>  report on human trafficking in 2001 issued Thursday
>  night. >>
>
> I don't care what the State Department says, we couldn't get them to halt aid
> to Israel if we could prove they boiled and ate babies.  Prudy
>

  Haven't you heard? They do boil and eat babies. Around Easter time.

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Re: [CTRL] Congress [doesn't] Hear Alien Life Testimony

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> From The AP,
> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010713/pl/life_out_there_2.html
> -
> Friday July 13 2:42 AM ET
> Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony
> By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) - Scientists studying the possibility of extraterrestrial
> life were encouraged by members of Congress, just seven years after some
> lawmakers dismissed the efforts as a search for ``little green men.''

I think the next paragraph has to read 'The non-discovery of life ...'

> ``The discovery of life in the universe would be one of the most
astounding
> discoveries in human history,'' said Rep. Lamar Smith (news - bio - voting
> record), R-Texas. ``Funding should match public interest and I don't
believe
> it does.''
>
> Smith said that since funds for the search for extra terrestrial
> intelligence (SETI) were booted out of the federal budget in 1994, ``the
> SETI credibility has been enhanced.''

I'll put you in touch with two sets of people I know who will give you
fresh evidence filmed DAILY in broad daylight at high resolution on
a 500 dollar digicam that ET life is here under our noses -
the very idea of giving SETI wasters pots of cash to listen for a ludicrous
EM medium like human-like radio is just NOT ON

> Four scientists appearing as witnesses said that in the last five years
the
> concept that life exists beyond the Earth has been boosted by dramatic
> discoveries both on Earth and in space.

I'm glad I'm not sailing my empirical boat in their small mentally retarded
pond

> Among the advances cited:
>
> - At least 50 planets have been found in orbit of distant, sun-like stars
in
> the last five years and researchers now believe that solar systems may be
> common through out the universe. Finding planets was considered an
essential
> step toward finding life.

a martian meteorite in antartica already did that - can't these guys afford
a trade magazine ?

> However, Weiler said that a space observatory now being built will be able
> to search for the chemical signatures of life in the atmospheres of
planets
> up to 50 light years away.

there is non-human life right here and now under our noses and in our
digitally recorded film - but 'scientific method' calls us to ignore such
evidence in favour of the approach that gets the grant money to pay
the rent

> -Researchers have found bacteria that live in the coldest of salt water,
in
> the deep pressure and heat of volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean,
and
> in the most acid of environments. Since life is possible in such hostile
> environments on Earth, then it may also have developed in extreme
conditions
> that may exist on other planets.
>
here's MY CONSPIRACY theory about establishment Cosmology -
research at the santa fe institute proved the process of emergence -
that order emerges out of chaos - known to civilisations that were before
the last ice age and recorded in ethnology.
The [my] truth is that the EVOLUTION of LIFE is relatively spontaneous and
quick
and is probably vastly widespread throughout the Cosmos.
This was known to the ancient Mayans and described by the
arithmetical device called THE LOOM OF MAYA

DNA is a HARMONIC product - Just as harmonic as the Real Relativity
by Tesal - theory of environmental energy 1908
The truth is that the Template for base 8 DNA that comes out of triplets
is a NATURAL COSMIC OCCURENCE - given the right ingredients
DNA forms anywhere - it is NOT a sophisticated greatly restricted process -
it doesn't require billions of delicate years and buckets of good luck

DNA is the natural harmonic expression of physics in an ORGANIC
medium. We see Teslas harmonics in interstellar redshift, Bodes Law
that describes the harmonic intevals of planets, pauli exclusion principle
that
describes the base 8 and musical disposition of electrons around the atom
etc the three base pairs as it were in atoms are the Quarks - red green
blue.
the same relativity of threeness gives us boolean arithmetic - part of
computer chips,
and the same boolean arithmetic which is based on combinations of 3 is DNA
3 base pairs [ACG]
This threeness thing that produces the base8 arithmetic and harmonic
physical music
is a natural and logical fit with 3 dimensions of space.
we see the ethnic remnants everywhere :
the I CHING symbolism, The LOOM OF MAYA from 2 very divergent civilisations
according to classical history :)

emergent DNA to Harmonic principles !!
This would blow darwin and Einstein away - so simply just expect to get
the establishments version of stevie wonder on the optical telescope for
the time being.

andrew hennessey
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[CTRL] [Mind Control] - More Murder And Mayhem

[M. F. Abernathy]

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MENTAL PATIENT KILLS NURSE, POLICE SAY TWO ELDERLY PATIENTS ALSO INJURED
IN RAMPAGE

Palm Beach Post, Wednesday, April 11, 2001
by Colleen Mastony Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Page number  1A

PORT ST. LUCIE - A mental patient who said he was sent by God to rid the
world of bad people is accused of beating a nurse to death with his
fists and injuring two other patients as he was being involuntarily
committed to a hospital early Tuesday. An orderly said he had left nurse
Alda Ellington, 47, alone with Alberto Serrano, 34, of Stuart after
being called away to quiet a disturbance in another part of Savannas
Hospital & Treatment Center.

When the orderly left, Serrano was calmly eating a tuna fish sandwich.
Ten minutes later another nurse saw him wandering the hallways. The
orderly returned and found Ellington in a pool of blood inside the ward
for severely disturbed patients.

Serrano was charged with first-degree murder and two counts of attempted
murder and is being held without bail at the St. Lucie County jail. In a
separate incident three days before, Serrano had punched a patient
unprovoked while in the waiting room of a different psychiatric
hospital, New Horizons in St. Lucie County, while he was waiting to be
admitted there, according to a St. Lucie County Sheriff's report.
Deputies arrested him on a misdemeanor charge of battery but released
him the next day on $500 bond.

Ellington had stopped breathing by the time paramedics arrived at
Savannas at 2:45 a.m. She sustained head injuries and died at the scene,
according to paramedics. After the rescue crew left with Ellington, a
staff member discovered two elderly patients had been beaten while
sleeping in their unlocked rooms.

Olive Simpson, 75, of Wellington was in critical condition at St. Lucie
Medical Center Tuesday night. Elizabeth Scott, 64, of Port St. Lucie,
was treated at the St. Lucie Medical Center for a broken nose and
released back to Savannas.

Deputies found Serrano, 34, of 2917 Delmar Ave., soaking wet and quietly
sitting in a chair outside the hospital. He had jumped in a nearby pond
after the attack.

Serrano answered basic questions and gave police his name and age in a
low, unwavering voice. Asked what happened, he said, "I don't know." His
swollen hands had deep cuts on the knuckles.

Though he later confessed, officials were not sure whether that
statement would be admissable in court because of questions surrounding
his competency. "If he is found to be insane, then you could never
prosecute," Assistant State Attorney Lynn Park said at a news conference
Tuesday.

"Whether they know right from wrong, that's the basic issue." Police had
taken Serrano to New Horizons of the Treasure Coast on Friday, according
to Serrano's girlfriend Nadia Pena, 27. Friends in a house where he had
been staying called police after Serrano woke them up in the middle of
the night, yelling "things from the Bible," preaching to and slapping
them, Pena said. The friends refused to press charges, so Serrano was
taken to New Horizons, Pena said.

Out to punish 'bad people' "He always said the same thing," Pena said.
"(He said:) 'Don't worry about anything because I'm going to take care
of all the bad people in the world' " Bad people were those who "did not
follow God's rules . . . like fornicators, child abusers, drug addicts,
his wife," Pena said. Serrano was separated from his wife, according to
Pena. She had known Serrano for three months.

Pena bailed Serrano out of the St. Lucie jail Saturday after the
incident at New Horizons. "He was fine. He was very happy to see me,"
she said. New Horizons chief operating officer John Romano declined to
comment on the incident.

Serrano also seemed fine on Monday when Pena arrived home from work
about 8:30 p.m. She drove him back to his apartment and was about to
leave when she found him in the bathroom with a knife. "He said, 'God is
calling me and he wants me to do it,' " Pena said. She took him to
Martin Memorial Medical Center about 12:30 a.m.

Doctors there were familiar with him, Pena said, and they decided to
transfer him to Savannas Hospital under the Baker Act, which allows
officials to involuntarily commit a person who has been determined to be
a threat to himself or others. Pena followed the transport car to
Savannas Hospital. When Serrano arrived shortly after 2 a.m., the nurse
at the intake station was busy with another patient. She asked orderly
James Chambers, 32, to take Serrano back to the intensive treatment
ward, Chambers said.

Serrano was calm and cooperative as Chambers led him to the ward, in an
isolated section of the hospital, and searched him for weapons, Chambers
said. Serrano said he was hungry and Chambers gave him a tuna fish
sandwich. "This guy was calm and cool," Chambers said. Chambers was the
only male staff member on-duty that night, he said.

Serrano seemed passive, and it seemed safe to leave him with Ellington
when Chambers was called to another unit, Cham

[CTRL] The Feds Want to Zap Your Brain From Space

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>From The Village Voice,
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0128/ridgeway2.shtml
-
Posted July 11th, 2001 4:45 PM
villagevoice.com exclusive

The Feds Want to Zap Your Brain From Space
Psycho Warfare
by James Ridgeway with Ariston-Lizabeth Anderson

For most people, the mere mention of the Star Wars missile defense system
recalls memories of wackos in the Reagan years. If only.

Today, beneath all the scientific and military gobbledygook are programs
that will make the H-bomb obsolete, replacing it with "nonlethal"
electromagnetic zaps from the ionosphere designed to take out an enemy's
entire communication system, change weather patterns by turning sunny skies
into torrential downpours, and drive you literally crazy by shooting sounds
into your head.

Part of the High-Frequency Active Aural Research Program, or HAARP, this
latest theoretical weapon shoots a zapping electromagnetic beam into the
ionosphere, where it becomes superheated before being steered back to earth.
The Pentagon claims this research will improve our communication system, but
the technology could also be aimed at adversaries, domestic or foreign.

Think how the Justice Department could have zapped David Koresh at Waco with
a tissue-destroying beam. Instead of a bum sniper killing Randy Weaver's
wife and baby with one lousy shot, the feds could have used the new
technology to take out Weaver alone. Law enforcement officials dream of the
day they can use the technology to take out drug traffickers and terrorists.
Just imagine what it could do to Osama bin Laden, even as he hides in an
Afghan redoubt. Best of all, the victims of the attack don't have a clue
where it's coming from, or even that it's an attack.

Project HAARP builds on military research projects originating in the 1950s.
The closest the government comes to plain-speak is a report from the air
force's scientific advisory board on weapons for the 21st century. Unearthed
by independent investigator Nick Begich, the report states: "One can
envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of
which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human
body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular
movements, control emotions with both short-term and long-term memory,
produce an experience set, and delete an experience set." What's more, the
technology may be able to create high-fidelity speech in humans, "raising
the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction." It may be
possible to "talk" to selected adversaries "in a fashion that would be most
disturbing to them."

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[CTRL] Amelia Earhart's aircraft 'spotted' from space

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>From Ananova,
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_350667.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscove
ry
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Historic plane wreck 'spotted' from space

The wreckage of Amelia Earhart's aircraft which disappeared in 1937 may have
been found.

Scientists say a satellite photograph of Nikumaroro Island in the south west
Pacific shows a rust-coloured object lying on a coral reef.

A team of divers is to set out to the island as it is impossible to get a
definitive answer to the 64-year-old mystery from the picture.

They also hope to discover whether the adventurer and her co-pilot survived
for any time on the island itself.

Earhart and Frederick Noonan's aircraft disappeared without trace during an
attempt to fly around the world.

A team from The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery has spent
12 years trying to trace it.

The group based its search on fishermen's reports and circumstantial
evidence before arranging for high resolution images of the island to be
taken.

Richard Gillespie, TIGHAR's executive director, told Space.com he plans to
have divers at the site very soon.

He added: "There does appear to be an object on the edge of the reef, off
the western end of the island. It's in a particularly suspicious location."

Human bones which were previously discovered on the island are now being
re-examined.

Story filed: 11:55 Friday 13th July 2001

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[CTRL] Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony

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>From The AP,
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010713/pl/life_out_there_2.html
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Friday July 13 2:42 AM ET
Congress Hears Alien Life Testimony
By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Scientists studying the possibility of extraterrestrial
life were encouraged by members of Congress, just seven years after some
lawmakers dismissed the efforts as a search for ``little green men.''

In a hearing Thursday of the House space science subcommittee, lawmakers
applauded efforts to find evidence of life elsewhere in the universe and to
search for other Earthlike worlds.

``The discovery of life in the universe would be one of the most astounding
discoveries in human history,'' said Rep. Lamar Smith (news - bio - voting
record), R-Texas. ``Funding should match public interest and I don't believe
it does.''

Smith said that since funds for the search for extra terrestrial
intelligence (SETI) were booted out of the federal budget in 1994, ``the
SETI credibility has been enhanced.''

Four scientists appearing as witnesses said that in the last five years the
concept that life exists beyond the Earth has been boosted by dramatic
discoveries both on Earth and in space.

Among the advances cited:

- At least 50 planets have been found in orbit of distant, sun-like stars in
the last five years and researchers now believe that solar systems may be
common through out the universe. Finding planets was considered an essential
step toward finding life.

``All of these planets are Jupiter-size or larger,'' said Ed Weiler, NASA
(news - web sites)'s associate administrator for space science. ``No
Earth-like planets have been found, but we don't yet have the technology''
to detect planets the size of Earth in orbit of distant stars.

However, Weiler said that a space observatory now being built will be able
to search for the chemical signatures of life in the atmospheres of planets
up to 50 light years away.

-Liquid water is considered an essential chemical for the development of
life and it has been found now on moons of Jupiter and in the orbit of at
least one distant star. There is also strong proof that water was once
common on Mars and there are plans to search beneath the Martian surface for
evidence of water, the most likely place for life on the Red Planet.

-Detailed studies of galaxies suggest that the formation of planets and
solar systems may be common. The Hubble space telescope has captured many
images of stars surrounded by the dust and gas clouds thought to be
precursors for planets.

-Researchers have found bacteria that live in the coldest of salt water, in
the deep pressure and heat of volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean, and
in the most acid of environments. Since life is possible in such hostile
environments on Earth, then it may also have developed in extreme conditions
that may exist on other planets.

In 1994, some members of Congress ridiculed the SETI Institute and its
efforts to detect radio signals from alien civilizations, calling the effort
``a search for little green men.''

The SETI concept fell so far out of favor that the National Science
Foundation (news - web sites) put a notation on its Web site that proposals
for SETI research were not welcome.

Christopher F. Chyba, a leader of the SETI Institute in California, said
that since losing its congressional funding, the program has been supported
by private donations, has about 120 employees, and is regularly searching
for signals on two million radio channels using a major radio telescope in
Puerto Rico.

Chyba said SETI, in partnership with the University of California, Berkeley,
is now building a $30 million radio telescope array that will be able to
listen to signals from the nearest one million stars in many channels.

And, said Chyba, the NSF has now removed its restriction on funding of SETI
research. Proposals for SETI research now compete for funding ``on a level
playing field'' with other research proposals, he said.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (news - bio - voting record), D-Calif., said it was
impressive that SETI continued to thrive even though federal funds were cut
off, and she said the federal government should not be against the research.

``We need to let the federal agencies know that bias against SETI research
is not favored,'' said Lofgren. ``No member of this committee wants bias
against any good science.''

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On the Net:

NASA Science: http://www.science.nasa.gov/

Extra Solar planets: http://exoplanets.org/

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[CTRL] Bush Details Studies on Global Warming

[Steve]

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Friday July 13 6:18 PM ET

Bush Details Studies on Global Warming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) said on Friday his
administration will invest tens of millions of dollars in studies to see how best to 
fight
global warming.

Just days before an international conference on the Kyoto pact on global climate
change -- which Bush has rejected as ''fatally flawed'' -- the White House said it was
moving forward on studies to see how best to reduce greenhouse gases.

Bush said in a statement that NASA (news - web sites) will invest more than $120
million over the next three years in research on the natural carbon cycle, climate
modeling and the link between atmospheric chemistry and climate.

The U.S. Department of Energy (news - web sites) has signed agreements for two
other projects to study programs that can absorb carbon, known as ``carbon
sequestration.''

The first agreement is with the Nature Conservancy, the world's largest private
international conservation group, to study land use and forestry practices for storing
carbon more effectively in Brazil and Belize.

The second is with a group of international energy companies -- BP-Amoco, Royal
Dutch/Shell, Chevron and Texaco ; PanCanadian and Suncor Energy of Canada, ENI
of Italy, Statoil Forskningssenter and Norsk Hydro of Norway.

That group will help develop a new set of technologies for reducing the cost of
capturing carbon dioxide from fossil fuel combustion plants.

Grants for six other sequestration research projects have also been awarded under the
$25 million initiative that Bush said leverages an additional $50 million from the 
private
sector and foreign governments.

The Department of the Treasury also entered into a $14 million ``debt for forest''
agreement with El Salvador (news - web sites) under the tropical Forest Conservation
Act, Bush said.

He said the U.S. Department of Commerce is bringing together more than 100
scientists from the United States, Mexico and South America to study the regional
impacts of climate change.

STABILIZING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS

The U.N. climate change convention set a nonbinding and unrealized goal of stabilizing
emissions of greenhouse gases at 1990 levels by 2000. The Kyoto protocol, a follow-
up to that, committed developed countries to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 5.2
percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

The United States, the biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, signed the 1997 Kyoto
agreement, but Bush pulled out of the accord before it was ratified by the Senate. He
said it would damage the U.S. economy and was unfair because it did not set targets
for cutting emissions by developing countries like China and India, two potentially 
large
emitters.

Bush said last month the 1997 Kyoto agreement was ``fatally flawed'' but he added that
his administration was committed to developing an effective, science-based response
to the issue of global warming.

He said he would boost U.S. spending on research and development to fight global
warming and work to find an international solution to the problem.

The initiatives announced on Friday represent the first step in that effort, White 
House
spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) said.

But the White House has not yet formulated an alternative strategy to the rejected
Kyoto protocol.

When asked about criticism that Bush rejected the Kyoto accord without providing an
alternative, a senior administration official said it was important to fully 
understand the
science of the issue before deciding on a policy to deal with it.

``We're doing it deliberately and thoroughly,'' he said. ''This is a very complicated
issue. ... In this next phase we will be undertaking more consultations ... to gather 
more
input and ideas and again look at these range of policies.''


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[CTRL] International Appeal Against the New World Order and for the Release of Sl. Milosevic

[Mrs. Jela Jovanovic]

 
- Original Message - 
From: mart 
 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: Fw:Greeks Demand Release of Milosevic

Forward from mart.
Please distribute 
widely.


Original 
Message-From: WPC info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:39 
PM: International Appeal 
Against the New World Order and for the Release of Sl. Milosevic 

 
 
INTERNATIONAL INITIATIVE FROM 
GREECE
   Nineteen public figures of 
Greece, from all political parties, signed the following international appeal 
protesting against the new world order and demanding the release of Slobodan 
Milosevic.   Among them there are people with international 
prestige, such as Mikis Theodorakis, former government ministers of Greece, 
vice-presidents of the Greek parliament, scientists and intellectuals.  
They call upon public figures from all over the world to sign this appeal and to 
mobilize in this direction.
INTERNATIONAL APPEAL
   The dramatic events being 
experienced by all of humanity owing to the unprecedented process of handing 
over and selling out the former President of Yugoslavia, his indictment by and 
deliverance to the so-called "International Court of Justice on former 
Yugoslavia" violate and abolish all concepts of national sovereignty and 
international law. These events were the result of the heavy and multiple 
pressures exerted by NATO, whose leaders should be on trial for their attack 
against Yugoslavia, in which they sowed death and destruction, flagrantly and 
cynically violating the UN Founding Charter.   Through these 
actions, an effort is being made to penalise international political life, to 
overthrow International Law completely and to create a terrorist international 
framework of "rules and institutions" that will bring to trial and convict all 
those who resist the barbarity of the new international 
order.   We protest strongly and express our absolute 
opposition to these actions.   We call upon all those who 
refuse to keep silent or to give their consent to the rule of "might is right" 
and ask them to join us and mobilise for the release of Slobodan Milosevic, 
former President of Yugoslavia, to bring a halt to these unacceptable processes, 
and to prevent the penalisation of international political life.1. 
   GLEZOS MANOLIS              
                  Fighter in the 
National Resistance2.    KATRIVANOS THEODOROS      
          Former Minister of the Interior3. 
   KATSAROS NIKOS              
                  Former Vice 
President of the Greek Parliament4.    KATSAROS NIKOS    
                      
      General Secretary of the Balkan Association of 
Chemists5.    KAZAKOS ΚOSTAS           
                    Vice 
President of Honor of World Peace Council6.    KOSIONIS PANAGIOTIS 
                      
Vice President of the Greek Parliament7.    KOURIS NIKOLAOS 
                     
          Former Minister of Defense, General8. 
   KRITIKOS PANAGIOTIS              
          Former Vice President of the Greek 
Parliament9.    MAGAKIS GEORGIOS          
                  Former Minister 
of Exterior10.    MAHERAS EVANGELOS         
              President of Honor of World 
Peace Council 11.    MARAGOPOULOU ALIKI        
            President of Human Rights 
Foundation12.    PAFILIS ATHANASSIOS         
              Executive Secretary of World 
Peace Council13.    PAPAMARGARIS THEOHARIS      
      Former Minister of Labour14.    POLIDORAS 
VIRON                    
        Former Minister of Press 15.    
ROUPAKIOTIS ANTONIS                
    President of the Athens Bar Association16.    
THEODORAKIS ΜΙΚIS                  
      Composer17.    VARDANIS MICHALIS    
                    Major 
General (ret.)18.    VAVOURAS IOANNIS        
                Dean of the Panteio 
University of social and  political Sciences     
19.    XANTHOPOULOS THEMISTOKLIS    Dean of National 
Technical University of Athens
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Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted

[Bill Howard]

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In a message dated 7/13/01 3:13:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< This is the kind of flimsy evidence that the oil companies want you to
believe, and
apparently William Bacon has fallen for the ploy.

Steve

On 13 Jul 01, at 7:04, William Bacon wrote:

> If present trends continue, the world will be about four
> degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990,
> but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is
> about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.
>  -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling,
>  Earth Day 1970. >>

Yup. I remember thiese dire predictions when I was in high school. Back when
we got our knowledge from books and lectures, and television was in black and
white.
Now the liberals would have us believe that these predictions were wrong, and
that the earth is getting hotter. But they don't have any real proof of this
warming tread. The limited data base of ocean temps taken by satillite don't
show a warming tread.

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Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted

[Steve]

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Does the incorrect prediction of *one activist* mean that all of the scientists are 
wrong?
No. Of course not.

This is the kind of flimsy evidence that the oil companies want you to believe, and
apparently William Bacon has fallen for the ploy.

Steve

On 13 Jul 01, at 7:04, William Bacon wrote:

> If present trends continue, the world will be about four
> degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990,
> but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is
> about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.
>  -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling,
>  Earth Day 1970.


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[CTRL] Mind Control Murders Plague The U.S.A.

[M. F. Abernathy]

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Have you seen any stories like these in your local newspaper lately?

===

Order to murder came from 'devil,' expert testifies

By William Cole
Advertiser Courts Writer
 © COPYRIGHT 2001 The Honolulu Advertiser
Wednesday, April 4, 2001

The man accused of murdering a vacuum cleaner salesman in Waialua said
he was on a "mission" to kill people and chop up their bodies after
voices commanded him to do so, a psychiatrist testified yesterday.

Dr. Robert Collis interviewed Michael Robert Lawrence after he was
charged with second-degree murder in the 1999 disappearance of Melchor
Tabag.

When Collis asked Lawrence why he was at Hawai'i State Hospital,
Lawrence "said he was hearing voices telling him to kill him (Tabag) and
chop him up. He said he chopped him up and brought him to the dump,"
Collis testified in Circuit Court yesterday.

According to Lawrence's lawyer, Tabag unwittingly became a victim of the
defendant's psychosis when he knocked on Lawrence's door on March 27,
1999, with the goal of selling him a Kirby vacuum cleaner.

Lawrence, 25, is on trial without a jury before Circuit Judge Virginia
Crandall on charges that he murdered the 41-year-old vacuum cleaner
salesman whose body was never found. Lawrence's lawyer is raising the
insanity defense.

During defense opening arguments yesterday, Deputy Public Defender
William Jameson said Lawrence spiraled into a world of delusional
thinking.

Isolating himself from the outside world, he became fixated on an
unplugged computer monitor he once placed on the roof of his parents'
Waialua home, Jameson said.

Lawrence "became sicker and sicker" and troubling voices became a
command, Jameson said. "His mission was to kill and chop people up."

"What he (Tabag) found was a man — Michael Lawrence — who thought and
believed Mr. Tabag would be the first of several (victims) to come,"
Jameson said. "Michael calmly struck the victim in the head and then
stabbed him and then dismembered him."

City Deputy Prosecutor Kevin Takata said a refuse transfer station
between Hale'iwa and Waimea Bay is the "dump" talked about by Lawrence,
but police did not search there for Tabag's body because they heard
about the dump more than a year after Tabag disappeared, and also
because rubbish there is routinely moved to two other spots on the
island.

Yesterday, Collis reported other bizarre behavior by Lawrence. While at
the O'ahu Community Correctional Center, Lawrence didn't speak to anyone
for weeks on end, collected his urine and smeared feces around the cell,
Collis said.

Lawrence also told Collis that Bill and Hillary Clinton were his
parents, that he was part of Microsoft, that he worked for the CIA and
as an insurance agent, and that the "devil" gave him his mission to
kill.

Lawrence, his ankles shackled and wearing a green OCCC jumpsuit, sat
looking down yesterday, his curly long hair shrouding his face.

Lawrence faces life in prison with the possibility of parole if he is
convicted of second-degree murder.

If he is acquitted by reason of insanity and deemed dangerous, he will
be committed to the state mental hospital.

Two mental health experts who examined Lawrence — Collis included —
concluded he was "substantially impaired" at the time of the killing.

A third expert, along with an expert hired by the state, said Lawrence
was not substantially impaired.


==


Copyright 2000  -- The Detroit News.

Beating death spurs bystander law
Plan would require injury witnesses to notify authorities
Thursday, October 5, 2000

By Associated Press

KALAMAZOO -- The beating death of an aspiring social worker in a bus
station where at least five adults ignored the attack has prompted two
legislators to draft a "Good Samaritan" law.   The legislation being
drafted by state Sen. Dale Shugars, R-Portage, and Rep. Jerry Vander
Roest, R-Galesburg, would require that people witnessing someone gravely
injured immediately notify authorities.

   The proposal is a response to the Aug. 17 beating death of Kevin
Heisinger, 24. He was headed home to Chicago from orientation at the
University of Michigan's social work program when he was attacked. Brian
Williams, 40, of Ypsilanti has been charged in Heisinger's death and
ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.

   Authorities have said Williams has suffered from schizophrenia for 20
years, and reportedly told his brother he heard voices telling him to
kill.  He allegedly beat Heisinger to death in a restroom while at least
five people sat within earshot of the attack and did not notify police.

   No one is believed to have witnessed the attack. But police said
several people heard Heisinger cry "stop" and "help" -- and one man went
into the restroom, saw the victim lying in a pool of blood and walked
out.  A second man found Heisinger unconscious and also left without
calling for help. A 9-year-old boy finally notified personnel at the bus
terminal, where the city Department of Public Safety has a substation

[CTRL] Russia Tests Missile Defense System

[William Shannon]

http://www.geostrategy-direct.com/



Russia tests new S-400 missile defense system 

MOSCOW — Russia is said to have tested a new system being marketed to the 
Middle East and capable of ballistic missile interception.

The system is the S-400 Triumph, the successor of the S-300  and regarded as 
the most advanced anti-aircraft battery developed by Russia. The Triumph is 
said to be able to intercept both ballistic and cruise missiles.

   
The test was conducted by two Russian firms, Almaz and Antei. The two 
companies have jointly developed and tested the S-400, the Moscow-based 
Military News Agency reports.
   
Russian defense sources said the S-400 can destroy a range of missiles and 
aircraft. This includes the U.S. Tomahawk cruise missile.
  
U.S. officials said Moscow is marketing the S-400 to several Middle East 
countries. These include Egypt, Greece, Iran and Libya. Russian officials 
have touted the S-400 as more capable than the U.S. PAC-3 system. 
   
In Washington, the Pentagon plans the next test of its missile interceptor. 
The Ballistic Missile Defense Organization will on July 14 launch a modified 
Minuteman II intercontinental ballistic missile from an air force base in 
California.
   
Twenty minutes later, an interceptor missile carrying a prototype 
exoatmospheric kill vehicle will be launched from the Marshall Islands. An 
interception is expected 10 minutes later over the Pacific Ocean.
   
This will be the fourth intercept test of the missile defense research and 
development program. The last two tests have failed.
   
Meanwhile, the Bush administration is examining a proposal to invite 
additional contractors for the U.S. missile defense program.
   
Officials said the Defense Department is considering alternatives to 
subsystems in a missile interceptor, which has failed in the last two 
launches. The current program is led by Boeing and Raytheon and officials are 
acknowledging that the engineering problems in the so-called kill vehicle are 
proving difficult to surmount. The missile defense program is said to be 18 
months behind schedule.
   
The prospect of additional contractors is being facilitated by administration 
plans to add $3 billion to missile defense in fiscal 2002. Boeing and the 
Pentagon's Ballistic Missile Defense Organization are examining which 
companies could join the program.
   
The program is meant to defend against missiles by rogue states such as Iran, 
Iraq and North Korea. North Korea recently conducted a ground test on a 
rocket engine, a move that the Bush administration said does not violate 
previous commitments issued by Pyongyang.
   
"They have recently, we believe, tested a motor engine, a rocket engine, and 
there is nothing in itself wrong with that," Deputy Secretary of State 
Richard Armitage said. 

[CTRL] Police 'spotters' to target EU summit demonstrators

[radman]

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Police 'spotters' to target EU summit demonstrators

Fri, 13 Jul 2001
:

British police hooligan "spotters" are to be used at future EU summits to
help single out known troublemakers at "peaceful" protests.

The tactic, already routine at soccer matches around the world, is being
applied for the first time to high-profile European political gatherings.

The move comes over growing concerns that organised gangs of rioters are
now targeting all major meetings of international leaders and was agreed at
unprecedented talks between EU ministers in Brussels.

Only one item was on the agenda - how to stop the kind of trouble which is
fast becoming the norm during protests at European and international
political events.

The most recent disturbances, which alarmed EU leaders, came during the EU
summit in Gothenburg last month, when Swedish police resorted to live
ammunition rounds to quell rioters, injuring three in the process.

The fact that the Swedish authorities do not permit tear gas and had no
water cannon available, glaringly highlighted different national approaches
to tackling street violence.

The ministers made no attempt to prescribe a single EU strategy for
policing riots but they did agree to pool experiences, step up cross-border
cooperation and information exchange, and anticipate the troublemakers by
bringing in the spotters.

The ministers agreed that legitimate peaceful demonstrators had the right
to be heard, but that violent demonstrations had to be stamped out.

Trained "spotters" from the fifteen member states will now be consulted in
advance about likely troublemakers and will in future become part of the
normal security arrangements wherever EU leaders meet.

See this story on the web at http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_351110.html

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[CTRL] City Living Linked To Psychosis?

[M. F. Abernathy]

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http://www.rense.com/general11/symp.htm

City-Living Linked To Increased
Psychotic Symptoms (Big Surprise)
7-130-1

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Urban dwelling has never been known for its
soothing effects, but new research suggests that people living in large
cities are more likely than small-town residents to exhibit
psychotic-like symptoms such as paranoia and delusions. In a study of
more than 7,000 people in the Netherlands, investigators found that both
full-blown psychotic disorders and milder psychosis-like symptoms were
more common among those living in urbanized areas. The link was most
apparent among people born and raised in densely populated areas,
suggesting that childhood environment may create ``enduring
liabilities'' for adult psychiatric health, according to the
researchers.

Dr. Jim van Os of Maastricht University and colleagues report the
findings in the July issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry.The
researchers divided the study participants into groups living in one of
five levels of urbanization, which were based on population density.
Through interviews, van Os and his colleagues determined that the
prevalence of psychiatric symptoms increased along with participants'
level of urbanization.

In the overall population, the prevalence of any type of psychotic
symptoms over a lifetime was about 4% to 17%, depending on the
definition of symptoms. The investigators looked at the number and
severity of symptoms such as feelings of persecution or auditory
hallucinations. Only about 1% suffered mental illnesses such as major
depression, and even fewer had been affected by schizophrenia-like
disorders. The fact that such symptoms were more common in urban
settings could be partly explained by symptomatic individuals having
``drifted'' to these areas, the authors note. However, they add, their
previous research has shown population stability in cities--that is,
around 75% of city dwellers were born there.

And a number of studies have demonstrated that psychotic illness is more
prevalent in urban settings than in rural areas, the report indicates.
``The high rates of psychotic illness in urban environments may be the
result of the influence of environmental factors,'' van Os and
colleagues write. ``As the urban effect appears to have its impact
during urban upbringing rather than during adult residence per se,
developmental mechanisms ought to be considered.'' The fact that in this
study, psychosis-like symptoms as well as full-blown illnesses were more
common in cities suggests a greater ``psychosis proneness'' in urban
settings, they add.

Why this potential connection exists is unclear, but the researchers
note that deprivation and social isolation in childhood neighborhoods
have been shown to affect mental health.  Another recent study in
Denmark linked urban birth with an increased of developing
schizophrenia. While family history was a far greater predictor of the
risk, place of birth emerged as an environmental factor. Those
researchers speculated that people born in urban areas are exposed to
more infections during prenatal development and childhood. Some experts
believe early exposure to infections may affect the developing brain in
a way that makes it more vulnerable to schizophrenia.

SOURCE: Archives of General Psychiatry 2001;58:663-668.



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Re: [CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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>When it was determined that Chandra had to go,

But WHY was it 'determined that Chandra had to go', and who exactly did the
determining?


>this guy was given the
>assignment. He picked her up on his motorcycle, took off some where, killed
>her, and dumped her body. Then, on orders from Condit and with money from
>Condit, he headed back to Haiti or wherever he came from - far, far away
>from investigators and the Feds."

This scenario doesn't account for Levy disappearing without the security
cameras in her building picking up anything...even if this supposed
Caribbean black male prostitute waited outside, Levy would have been seen
leaving her apartment and the building...


>Some of his girlfriends obviously knew of this over the years; some
>participated in the three-way sex. This explains his absolute paranoia over
>any of the girls ever talking about their relationships with him.
>
>And it explains the fear we are now hearing about from not just the flight
>attendant, Anne Marie Smith, but others, too.

Enjoying 3-and-more-ways sex in and of itself doesn't explain the fear these
women claim to be experiencing...


>As for Chandra leaving her apartment with only her keys? As RJ put it,
>"Perhaps the only time a woman would leave her purse behind would be to
>ride on the back of a motorcycle."

That's bullshit.  Having ridden on the backs of motorcycles many times, I
can tell you that I never had just my keys with me...I always had a small
billfold with my ID and some pocket change in it in my pocket.  This
scenario also doesn't explain why she took that check for $54 with her...


>If RJ's scenario if accurate then poor Chandra - and other Condit
>girlfriends - have fallen into the sickest group of perverts imaginable.

It seems to me that if these allegations of bisexuality on Condit's part are
true, any women who partook in these 'gourmet' tastes did so with their eyes
wide open...they definitely didn't "fall into" these activities but strolled
boldly in without needing to be coerced...




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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The National Enquirer:

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> So now Paula is "secretly" battling booze?   Then what the hell is this
> secret doing in the National Equirer ???

This was ALL OVER the televised news.  No secret ... weeks old ...

And anyway, I'd think the 2 mommies or 2 daddies is not entirely the correct issue;
perhaps it is more the celebrity status that makes these people think they can get
away with anything.  There are more than one kind of "Mommy Dearest".

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Re: [CTRL] Hispanics Must be Liberals?

[Don Daniels]

Sure, they're liberal, as long as they're receiving government welfare funds.

Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted, Say Scientists

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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From: Steve
>> It's just not the same human actions you are being
>> told about in the alleged news media.
>> The cause is NOT any of the following:
>> freon propellant from hairspray cans
>> freon from refrigerators or air conditioners
>
>Freon causes depletion of the ozone layer, not global warming. Do your
research
>before making stupid pronouncements.

http://www.ec.gc.ca/ozone/protect/sect2_e
html#What%20is%20the%20ozone%20hole

Does ozone depletion cause global warming?
Ozone depletion and global warming are both mainly caused by changes in the
atmosphere due to human activities. Global warming is due to the build-up of
heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere and is not caused by ozone depletion.
Some chemicals which deplete ozone, such as CFCs and halons, also trap heat
in the atmosphere and contribute to global warming. However, ozone depletion
actually causes cooling in the upper atmosphere, and this may partially
offset the heat-trapping effect of some ozone-depleting substances. The net
result of the heating and cooling caused by ODSs is the subject of current
scientific investigation.

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[CTRL] Blowing Smoke on Stem-Cell Research

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Wesley Smith:  Blowing Smoke on Stem-Cell Research
Source:   National Review; July 12, 2001

[ Wesley Smith is the author of Culture of Death: The Assault on Medical
Ethics in America published by Encounter Books. You can purchase his books
online in the books section of http://www.roevwade.org]

There is an old saying among trial lawyers that goes something like this:
"If you can't argue the facts, argue the law, if you can't argue the facts
or the law, blow smoke." This proverb is equally applicable to political
arguments. In the Great Stem-Cell Debate the smoke blown by proponents of
federal funding for embryonic-stem-cell research (ESCR) has grown so thick
that global-warming activists should sound the alarm.

Up until now, those who advocate federal funding for ESCR have driven the
debate. This isn't surprising given the blatantly biased coverage by the
mainstream media as exposed by the Statistical Assessment Service (STATS),
which I described in a previous NRO piece. But now, opponents of federal
funding are beginning to hope that time may actually be on their side.
Indeed, the longer President Bush ponders what to do, the clearer the air
is becoming.

The following are the primary arguments in favor of federal funding. What
once appeared to be concrete pillars supporting a compelling argument have
turned out to be constructed out of wispy particulate matter that may be
beginning to collapse.

Only IVF Embryos Would Be Targeted For Destruction:

The American people are deeply pragmatic. Thus, the most potent argument
in favor of federal funding has been the promise that only embryos
destined for destruction from IVF fertility experiments would be used in
federally funded research. Opponents' response to this argument--that no
law requires these embryos to be destroyed, that some might be ultimately
adopted by infertile couples, that such attitudes lead directly to the
slippery slope, etc--while certainly true, have not persuaded a public
that seems to view the use of unneeded IVF embryos as being akin to
recycling aluminum cans.

But a story has now exploded into the news that should shatter this
popular complacency. Scientists at the Jones Institute for Reproductive
Medicine in Norfolk, Virginia bragged in a press release that they paid
women between $1,500 and $2,000 apiece for their eggs, and then used them
-- with the egg providers' consent -- to create embryos for the purpose of
destroying them in ESCR. These scientists claim that making embryos for
research is "as ethical" as using frozen IVF embryos. Moreover, they
contend, freshly created embryos might be "superior" for research purposes
to those thawed out of a deep freeze. If that is true, how long would
scientists be content to use "in excess of need" IVF embryos?

The response of pro-ESCR scientists and bioethicists to this development
has been especially telling. Rather than forcefully and unequivocally
condemning Jones Institute, their primary complaint has been that the
"timing could not have been worse" -- meaning that the disclosure makes a
bad appearance that could give President Bush grounds to refuse federal
funding. There has been no reported outcry from the ESCR crowd that the
creating human embryos solely for the purpose of destroying them in
research is immoral.

With this breaking story, it is now clear that the IVF boundary would
never hold. Instead, federally funding ESCR would merely free up private
dollars, now used for IVF research, to fund the kind of activities
undertaken by the Jones Institute. Moreover, we must not forget that the
biotech industry is lobbying hard against the Weldon Bill -- crucial
legislation that would ban all human cloning -- on the basis that cloning
would be a necessary aspect of embryonic-stem-cell medicine should the
research ever become clinically viable. Thus, all of this talk of
restricting the research to IVF embryos is really nothing but the old bait
and switch.

Embryos Would Not Really Be Destroyed in the Research:

Some advocates of federal funding who are queasy at the thought of
destroying embryos have settled their uneasy tummies by changing the
scientific definitions. Thus, the Washington Times's Suzanne Fields wrote,
"Though these fertilized eggs are popularly referred to as embryos, they
really aren't, not until implanted in a uterine wall. They are more
precisely blastocysts."

Fields may be a good writer but she clearly doesn't know her human
biology. An embryo by any other name is still an embryo. The 1989 edition
of the American Medical Association's Encyclopedia of Medicine explicitly
states, "From the time of conception until the eight week, the developing
baby is known as an embryo." In its earliest stage of life the embryo is
known as a zygote. The embryo is called a blastocyst when it reaches the
stage of development where it can implant into the womb. At this point the
embryo may be made up of more than a hundred cells encased in an embryonic
lining. 

[CTRL] Condit Not Labled as Dem in 92% of Media Stories (fwd)

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MRC Study: In 92% of Levy Stories Networks Refused to Label Gary
Condit as a Democrat

Below is the text of a new Media Reality Check compiled by s
Rich Noyes, the MRC's Director of Media Analysis, and distributed
this afternoon by fax. It's headlined, "Avoiding Gary Condit's
Democratic ID; MRC Study: Networks Failed to Label California
Congressman as a Democrat in 92% of Levy Stories." To view it as
fax recipients saw it, access the Adobe Acrobat PDF version:
http://www.mediaresearch.org/news/reality/2001/pdf/fax0712.pdf

But first, a few quick examples outside the study parameters
of media outlets refusing to inform viewers or readers about
Condit's party affiliation:

-- Nightline. Last night's show was devoted entirely to
Condit and Chandra Levy, but in 22 or so minutes of air time
neither anchor Chris Bury or reporter Pierre Thomas ever
mentioned that Condit is a Democrat.

-- In their July 16 editions, neither Newsweek, in a nearly
1500 word story by Michael Isikoff with Daniel Klaidman, Eleanor
Clift and Andrew Murr, nor Time in a short up front "Notebook"
item by Margaret Carlson, identified Condit as a Democrat.

Now, to the MRC Study as outlined in today's Media Reality
Check. It is based upon an MRC review of the morning and evening
shows on ABC (Good Morning America and World News Tonight), CBS
(The Early Show and CBS Evening News) and NBC (Today and NBC
Nightly News) from May 14 to July 11. (The analysis included the
weekend Today shows as well as the weekend ABC, CBS and NBC
evening shows, which is relevant since it has been falsely
reported, such as in today's USA Today, that the CBS Evening News
has not reported on the case. While the CBS Evening News has
ignored the story on weekdays, it aired a story on Saturday July
7 and two reports on Sunday July 8, none of which identified
Condit's party.)

Overall results:

ABC:   67 stories, 3 Democratic labels (4%)
CBS:   38 stories, 2 Democratic labels (5%)
NBC:   74 stories, 9 Democratic labels (12%)
Total: 179 stories, 14 Democratic labels (8%)

The text of the July 12 Media Reality Check:

On July 9, ABC's George Stephanopoulos confidently predicted on
Good Morning America that "I don't think the rest of the
Democratic Party is going to get tarred by Gary Condit" as a
result of the California Congressman's adulterous affair with a
young woman, Chandra Levy, who has been the subject of intense
police activity since she ominously disappeared on May 1.

Probably not, and one reason may be that ABC and its broadcasting
brethren have downplayed Condit's partisan affiliation through-
out their coverage of the Levy story. Normally, a "Republican" or
"Democrat" label is presented nearly every time a member of
Congress is cited, as in "Rep. Gary Condit (D-CA)." But since
May, the three broadcast networks have practically erased the "D"
from Condit's political identity, detaching the scandal-plagued
politician from the rest of his party.

>From May 14, when Chandra's mother, Susan, appeared on Good
Morning America to plead for her daughter's safe return, through
July 11, ABC, CBS and NBC morning and evening news programs aired
a total of 179 stories about Gary Condit -- 121 full-length
reports or interviews, plus 58 brief anchor-read items. MRC
researchers reviewed each story, and found that Condit was
labeled a "Democrat" only 14 times, or in fewer than eight
percent of stories. Six of those labels, or almost half, came
paired with adjectives such as "conservative" or "right-wing"
which distinguished Condit from other members of his party.

"A political maverick who rides a Harley, Condit founded the Blue
Dog coalition of conservative Democrats," Stephanopoulos himself
reported on the June 25 Good Morning America, the program's first
hint that Condit was a Democrat after 26 stories on the Levy
case. Stephanopoulos then rued to host Charles Gibson: "He was
the kind of guy, when you were working for Democrats in the
House, you could never count on his vote." Two weeks later, ABC's
Brian Rooney similarly described Condit as "a Democrat who often
votes with the Republican opposition."

NBC's George Lewis shoved Condit to the furthest fringe of the
Democratic Party on July 2, branding him "a 53-year-old right-
wing Democrat." Condit's ideological ratings, however, place him
squarely in the middle of the spectrum: After 12 years in
Congress, Condit gets a 48 percent rating from the American
Conservative Union and a 52 percent score from the liberal
Americans for Democratic Action.

Six additional stories conveyed Condit's affiliation without
using a straightforward label. On the July 8 CBS Evening News,
for example, Sandra Hughes didn't quite say that Condit was a
Democrat but remarked that "the Republican Party also sees
weakness and may focus on gaining his congressional seat." But
even adding those six stories to those that plainly labeled
Condit leaves 159 network stories, or 89 percent of the total
coverage, 

[CTRL] Drug War on Trial Going to Trial Next Week

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Drug War on Trial Going to Trial Next Week
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/194.html#drugwarontrial

In one of the most important first amendment cases hitting the
courts in recent years, Al Giordano of the Narco News bulletin
(http://www.narconews.com) and Mexican newspaper Por Esto
publisher Mario Menendez Rodriguez are presenting oral arguments
for motions to dismiss the lawsuit brought against them by
Roberto Hernandez Ramirez and the Mexican bank Banamex, recently
acquired by Citibank.

Is this case, in which a web site published from Mexico is being
sued by a bank headquartered in Mexico, being heard in a Mexican
court?  No, it's in Manhattan -- that's one of the first
amendment issues.

Supporters in the area are encouraged to attend the hearing,
which is taking place next Friday, July 20th, at 9:30am at the
New York State Supreme Court, Justice Paula Omansky presiding, 71
Thomas Street, Manhattan (three blocks east of Foley Square and
main courthouse), room 205.

Narco News has gone into debt preparing its defense, and
donations are needed for the legal defense fund so that Giordano
can get back to publishing the bulletin!  Those interested in
donating to the Narco News legal defense fund can send checks
made payable to "Drug War On Trial," to: Drug War On Trial, c/o
Attorney Thomas Lesser, Lesser, Newman, Souweine & Nasser, 39
Main Street, Northampton, MA 01060.

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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

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In a message dated 7/13/01 10:27:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< or did you mean derisable? >>

I'll have to give that some thought.

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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

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well, it certainly sometimes feels like it's been two years- but it never
seems all that reasonable ;)
or did you mean derisable?

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> In a message dated 7/13/01 4:42:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) - President Daniel arap Moi has urged Kenyans
to
> abstain from sex for at least two years to try to curb the spread of AIDS,
> newspapers reported on Thursday. >>
>
> Sounds like a ressonable request to me.
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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

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In a message dated 7/13/01 4:42:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) - President Daniel arap Moi has urged Kenyans to
abstain from sex for at least two years to try to curb the spread of AIDS,
newspapers reported on Thursday. >>

Sounds like a ressonable request to me.

BHoward

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Re: [CTRL] RCMP, FBI AND U.S. SECRET SERVICE CRUMPLE "NIGERIAN LETTER SCAM"

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PRINCE BIODUN BAKARE
TEL:234-1-4700836
FAX:234-1-7592754
E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LAGOS, NIGERA.

July 11th 2001


DEAR FRIEND,

I GUESS THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE
SINCE I HAD NO PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE WITH YOU.
I AM THE CHAIRMAN TENDER BOARD OF INDEPENDENT NATIONAL
ELECTORAL COMMISSION (INEC) I GOT YOUR CONTACT IN THE
COURSE OF MY SEARCH FOR A RELIABLE PERSON WITH WHOM TO
HANDLE A VERY CONFIDENTIAL TRANSACTION INVOLVING THE
TRANSFER OF FUND VALUED THIRTY MILLION TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS ($30.2M) TO A SAFE
FOREIGN ACCOUNT.

THE ABOVE FUND IN QUESTION IS NOT CONNECTED WITH ARMS,
DRUGS OR MONEY LAUNDERING. IT IS THE PRODUCT OF OVER
INVOICE ON CONTRACT AWARDED IN 1999 BY INEC, TO A
FOREIGN COMPANY FOR THE SUPPLY OF ELECTORAL MATERIALS
THAT WAS USED FOR 1999 ELECTIONS.

THE CONTRACT HAS LONG BEEN EXECUTED AND PAYMENT OF THE
ACTUAL CONTRACT AMOUNT MADE TO THE FOREIGN CONTRACTOR
LEAVING THE BALANCE OF $30.2M U.S DOLLARS IN A DORMANT
ACCOUNT WHICH MY COLLEAGUES AND I NOW WANT TO TRANSFER
OUT OF NIGERIA INTO A RELIABLE FOREIGN ACCOUNT FOR OUR
PERSONAL USE.

AS CIVIL SERVANTS, WE DO NOT HAVE THE NECESSARY
FOREIGN ACCOUNT MACHINERY TO SUCCESSFULLY HANDLE THIS
TRANSACTION. THERFORE IT BECOMES NECESSARY TO SOURCE
FOR A FOREIGN COMPANY WITH THE CAPABILITY TO ACT AS
THE ORIGINAL BENEFICIARY OF THE CONTRACT.

MY DEAR, IT IS A GOOD THING THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS
ENDORSED THE RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE SENATE THAT ALL
FOREIGN CONTRACTORS OWED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF
NIGERIA SHOULD BE PAID, WE WILL SEIZE THIS GOOD
OPPORTUNITY TO PURPORT YOU AS ONE OF THE BENEFICIARIES
TO BE PAID.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THIS PROPOSAL KINDLY FAX TO
ME YOUR LETTER OF ACCEPTANCE ALONG WITH YOUR DIRECT
TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS, BUT IF YOU CANNOT FOR ANY
REASON HANDLE THIS TRANSACTION I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL IF
YOU CAN INTRODUCE IT TO A RELIABLE AND TRUST WORTHY
PERSON IN WHICH IN ANY CASE YOUR INTEREST WILL BE
PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF.

MEANWHILE, MY COLLEAGUES AND I HAVE DECIDED TO SHARE
THE MONEY IN THE FOLLOWING RATIO: 60% FOR MY
COLLLEAGUES AND I, THEN 30% FOR YOU THE ACCOUNT OWNER
AND 10% FOR ALL LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL EXPENSES THAT
MAY ARISE IN THE COURSE OF THIS TRANSACTION.
FUTHER DETAILS ABOUT THIS TRANSACTION WILL BE
DISCUSSED IN THE SUBSEQUENT CORRESPONDENCE.

THIS TRANSACTION IS STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUT 100%
RISK FREE. NOTE ALSO THAT THE PARTICULAR NATURE OF
YOUR BUSINESS IS IRRELEVANT TO THIS TRANSACTION AND
THIS TRANSACTION IS EXPECTED TO BE CONCLUDED WITHIN 5
WORKING DAYS SINCE ALL LOCAL CONTACTS AND ARRANGEMENTS
HAVE BEEN PROPERLY PERFECTED FOR A SMOOTH AND
SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION OF THIS TRANSACTION.

YOURS FAITHFULLY,

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[CTRL] Bank Pres Drags Journalist into NY Court Over Drug Expose

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Electronic Frontier Foundation Media Advisory

For Immediate Release: July 12, 2001

Contact:

Cindy Cohn, EFF Legal Director, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
+1 415 436-9333 x108

Will Doherty, EFF Media Relations, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Bank Pres Drags Journalist into NY Court Over Drug Expose

Electronic Frontier Foundation Urges U.S. Court to Respect
Mexican Rulings


New York City, NY - The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)
today urged a New York state court to respect Mexican court
rulings that have disallowed lawsuits against independent
journalist Al Giordano for publishing allegations of drug
trafficking by Banco Nacional de Mexico President Roberto
Hernandez Ramirez.

EFF seeks to protect the First Amendment rights of online,
independent journalists against the abusive "shopping" by
large, powerful corporations for favorable jurisdictions.
The Mexican bank brought the case against a Mexican-based
website, The Narco News Bulletin
( http://www.narconews.com ), produced solely by Giordano.

"The EFF is concerned that the bank resorted to New York
courts to try to shut down this website because it could
not do so in Mexican courts," said Cindy Cohn, Legal
Director for the EFF.  "This kind of forum shopping
threatens to shut down one of the greatest benefits of
the Internet -- giving a voice to independent,
Internet-based journalists.  Faced with having to defend
themselves in far-flung jurisdictions, many independent
journalists will simply choose not to publish on the
Internet."

The case arises from allegations published on the The Narco
News Bulletin website that the bank president was involved
in illegal activities in Mexico.  The EFF filed an amicus
brief urging the New York court to rule that it was
improper for the bank to force Mr. Giordano into New York
state court for the statements posted on the website. The
hearing on the case is set for July 20, 2001.

Since April 18, 2000, Al Giordano has produced The Narco
News Bulletin, an online newspaper devoted to spirited
investigative journalism on the US-Latin America drug
trade. Articles posted on The Narco News Bulletin website
have discussed allegations by others that Roberto
Hernandez Ramirez, the president of the Banco Nacional de
Mexico, is involved in drug trafficking.  Some of these
stories were reprinted articles from the Mexican
newspaper Por Esto!, published in Mexico by Mario Renato
Menendez.

After failing three times to sue Menendez in Mexico over
the allegations, Banco Nacional de Mexico now seeks to
force Menendez and Giordano to defend themselves in New
York state court against the same basic claims. The New
York case groups together the allegations against the
Mexican-based website, hosted in Maryland, with statements
made by Menendez and Giordano in New York City on a radio
broadcast and at a Columbia University Law School
conference.

The EFF amicus brief asked the Court to adopt one of two
courses of action.  First, in order to deter abusive forum
shopping, the EFF asked the court to dismiss the case
since Mexican law governs the dispute.

Alternatively, since Narconews.com mainly republished
investigative work done by others, the EFF asked the
New York court to apply a distinct legal standard for
libel claims related to republished statements. The
legal standard requires that a republisher had, or should
have had substantial reasons to question the accuracy
of the articles. EFF believes that this higher liability
standard for republishing on the Internet is necessary
to encourage the growth of Internet journalism.

About EFF:

The Electronic Frontier Foundation is the leading civil
liberties organization working to protect rights in the
digital world. Founded in 1990, EFF actively encourages
and challenges industry and government to support free
expression, privacy, and openness in the information
society. EFF is a member-supported organization and
maintains one of the most linked-to websites in the world:
http://www.eff.org/

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[CTRL] Migrants harm US economy

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Report:  Migrants harm US economy
By Bill Hillburg
LA Daily News

Washington—Large scale migrations of Mexicans to southern California and the
United States undermines the economy, overtaxes schools and other services,
and creates a permanent underclass of uneduated and unskilled poor, a
nonpartisan think tanksai in a report issued Thursday.
The report by the Center for immigration studies, a Washington based research
organization focusing on immigration cited southern California as the
epi-center  of social and economic ills related to mexican immigration, which
rose nearly 1,000 per cent nationwide from 1970 to 2000.
The organization which advocates stict immigaration controls, urged President
Bush to scrap proposals for increased immigration from Mexico and also called
for a crack down on undocumented  immigrants and their US employers. It
further  advocated a ban on adult immigrants who lack basic  education and
skills.
"We keep hearing arguments that immigrants are making this country rich,"
said Mark Krikorian, CIS director. "But nobody has really looked into the
lissues  to see if this is true."
KriKorian said the center's study focused on Mexican immigrants because they
are the largest single group of newcomers now entering the United States.
The report drew fire from the supporters of immigrants rights.
"I'm not surpirsed by their findings." said Harry Pachon, president of the
Claremont-bsed Tomas Rivera Policy Institute. "We're a research institute,
and they're an advocay group."
Pachon noted that a March report by his own  organizatin drew the opposite
conclusion. It found that large numbers of Latino immigrants in Southern
California, the vast majority of whom have roots in Mexico, were making
impresive  gains in education attainment and economic status within a decate
of arraiving in the United States.
"Instead of trashing Mexican immigrants and their contributions to this
country, they should be praising their hard work." said Frank Sharry,
director of the National Immigranation Forum, a Washington based immigrant
rights group.
The report stated that lack of skills and schooling translated into a
lifetime of low-paying employment and poverty for many Mexican immigrants.
While stressing  that Mexican workers posed no  threat to middle and upper
class Americans, it argued that the immigrants are unfairly completing  for
entry level jobs with poorer natives, including people being forced off
welfare rolls by reform  programs.

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[CTRL] INMATE WORKS LEGAL SYSTEM FROM BEHIND BARS

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INMATE WORKS LEGAL SYSTEM FROM BEHIND BARS

(West Palm Beach, FL) - The web of fakery and greed spun by con-
victed jewel dealer Jack Hasson for more than a decade continues
to snare victims and clog up multiple court systems, while he
sits in a South Carolina prison, defies a federal judge's orders
and dabbles in French law.

Hasson, serving 40 years for fraud and money laundering, spends
his time in the federal penitentiary at Edgefield, S.C., filing
"common law" court papers concocted with the aid of fellow in-
mates. The documents include billion-dollar "judgments" against
people Hasson perceives as enemies and attempt to persuade a
French court not to release $20 million in laundered money to
the U.S. government.

Meanwhile, federal prosecutors have charged Irene Lois Robert-
son, Hasson's longtime bookkeeper at his Palm Beach Gardens and
North Palm Beach stores, with concealing his money-laundering, a
felony punishable by up to three years in prison and a $250,000
fine. Robertson, 61, pleaded not guilty at her June 29 arraign-
ment and is out on $100,000 bond.

Robertson and her husband, Pascal, also have agreed to repay
$825,000 that Hasson gave her when he shut down his Palm Beach
Gardens store in 1998. The money will go to Hasson's main fraud
victim, retired businessman Aben Johnson of North Palm Beach,
who paid Hasson more than $80 million for jewels later appraised
at $6 million. The Robertsons had bought a home and three other
pieces of property in Port St. Lucie with part of the money.

A federal judge has ordered Hasson's former store manager, James
Speiser, back to court to face a charge of violating probation.
Speiser, who said he replaced real jewels with fakes and was
paid $1.7 million to lie for Hasson, testified against him and
got an 18-month sentence, plus three years' probation. Like Has-
son, he's required to make restitution to the victims, and his
probation officer says he didn't disclose the sale of a 1960
Corvette for $40,500.

Former estate lawyer Scott Colton of North Palm Beach, serving
three years for helping Hasson launder $26 million, now says he
lied to his own attorneys about the scheme as well as to Has-
son's other lawyers, the FBI and a federal grand jury.

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[CTRL] RCMP, FBI AND U.S. SECRET SERVICE CRUMPLE "NIGERIAN LETTER SCAM"

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RCMP, FBI AND U.S. SECRET SERVICE 
  CRUMPLE "NIGERIAN LETTER SCAM"(Toronto) - The Royal Canadian 
  Mounted Police Toronto WestDetachment Commercial Crime Section 
  announced yesterday theresults of a three year investigation that has 
  successfully dis-mantled a highly sophisticated international criminal 
  organiza-tion operating in the Greater Toronto Area and 
  victimizingpeople around the world.This alleged criminal group 
  has been perpetrating a large scaleinternational fraud known as the 
  West African-based OrganizedAdvance Fee Fraud or more commonly known 
  as the "Nigerian letterscam". The RCMP alleges that this criminal 
  group is part of alarger criminal organization based in Nigeria and 
  that thisgroup has been perpetrating this scam for over 8 years in 
  theGreater Toronto Area.To date, the RCMP has identified over 
  300 victims from aroundthe world. Most victims are from the United 
  States, althoughvictims have been identified in Europe and Asia. 
  Individuallosses range from US $52,000 to over US $5 
  million.In 1998, the Commercial Crime Section of the RCMP Toronto 
  WestDetachment received a complaint from a victim of an Advance 
  FeeFraud who was asked to travel to Toronto. While 
  investigatingthis complaint, common elements surfaced concerning 
  severalongoing investigations in both Canada by the RCMP and in 
  theUnited States by the FBI and the US Secret Service. The RCMP 
  andthe FBI immediately began a co-operative investigation 
  underCanadian Eagle in association with the US Secret Service. 
  Can-adian Eagle is a US/Canadian law enforcement partnership 
  betweenthe RCMP and the FBI mandated to investigate organized 
  crimegroups that are conducting fraudulent cross-border 
  telemarketingactivity.Arrested and charged with conspiracy to 
  commit fraud; fraudagainst the general public; and laundering the 
  proceeds of crimewere Wenceslaus Utomi, 47, of Richmond Hill, Ontario; 
  AinsleyAnthony Drakes, 34, of Toronto, Ontario; and Richard 
  Brewster,33, of Toronto, Ontario.





	
	
	
	
	
	
	




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[CTRL] Ashcroft Terrified by Terrorism

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Ashcroft Terrified by Terrorism

By Declan McCullagh
Wired.com
July 12, 2001

WASHINGTON -- It's been just one month since Timothy McVeigh was executed
for the Oklahoma City bombing, and U.S. officials are trying to prevent
similar disasters.

At a government summit on Wednesday, Attorney General John Ashcroft said
that thwarting terrorist attacks was his "number-one priority" and that the
Feds were stepping up efforts to guard against chemical, biological,
radiological and nuclear threats.

Ashcroft said the Justice Department was already planning for 2003 an
exercise called "TOPOFF2" -- which stands for "top officials" -- involving
simulated attacks carried out with no notice against American cities. The
first TOPOFF took place in May 2000 with a mock biological attack on Denver
and a fake nuclear bomb near Washington, D.C.

The attorney general also predicted noose-tight security during the 2002
Winter Olympics, which will be held in Salt Lake City.

"We are doing everything we can to ensure that people from all over the
world can come to the Games, bring their families, enjoy the excitement of
world-class athletic competition, and feel safe and secure," Ashcroft said.

During the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, federal agents falsely accused
security guard Richard Jewell of being responsible for planting a small
bomb that killed two people.
Some participants at Wednesday's event, organized by the National Governors
Association and the National Emergency Management Association, said the
government must not neglect attacks carried out through the Internet.

"After you engage someone, you are taught to step back and look for the
next threat," said Mark Noel, a researcher at Dartmouth College's Institute
for Security Technology Studies. "In the case of terrorism, that could be
an attack on the Internet."

"Most people who are deeply involved in this field recognize the force
multiplier effect the attack on communications infrastructure would have,"
Noel said.

The only problem: Malicious hacker attacks on websites may just be pranks,
not terrorism. And the U.S. military, for instance, has been known to
exaggerate statistics of alleged intrusion attempts.

On Tuesday, the first day of the two-day summit, Secretary of Health and
Human Services Tommy Thompson went even further than Ashcroft.

"Someday we're more than likely going to be hit by some sort of
bioterrorism in America," Thompson said. He also said that Scott
Lillibridge, the former director of bioterrorism preparedness and response
at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, had been appointed to
coordinate national response plans.

All that sounds a trifle threatening to state officials who fret that newly
energized efforts by the Feds will trample on state turf.

"All attacks start locally, and there is a great sensitivity among (local
officials) for an overbearing federal government presence," said Lt.
General James Clapper, vice chairman of a government-funded terrorism
commission.

Ashcroft stressed that he was a former governor of Missouri and pledged to
compromise: "Justice Department counterterrorism efforts require close
coordination not only with other federal agencies but also with state and
local agencies."

And what better way to win their allegiance than with some federal dollars?
Ashcroft said that the Justice Department "has committed funding to the
governors to establish a policy academy for state officials."

Earlier this week, the House Government Reform Committee held a hearing on
the biological weapons convention. In the Bush administration, Vice
President Cheney, who is responsible for coordinating antiterrorism
efforts, is preparing a report to be complete by October.

One place that's seen an attack firsthand is Oklahoma City, where a
nonprofit group says it's worried about the communications system.

"If someone incapacitates the 911 system during a terrorism attack, the
results would be chaos," said Gen. Dennis Reimer, director of the Oklahoma
City National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism.

Andrew Osterman contributed to this report.

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[CTRL] A spy satellite's rise ... and faked fall

[c.]

-Caveat Lector-

A spy satellite's rise ... and faked fall

Amateurs
could see what
Russia missed,
historian says
This drawing, included in a patent application, shows how an inflatable
space shield could help a satellite evade detection. Observers believe the
satellite known as Misty may have used such a shield. Click here to see the
patent application.


By Robert Windrem
NBC NEWS PRODUCER

July 12 -  For more than a decade, the United States has had at least one
and possibly more stealth spy satellites capable of peering down at targets
without fear of detection, according to a new book by an intelligence
historian. The author, Jeffrey T. Richelson, says that while the Soviet
space tracking network failed to detect the satellite, it did not evade a
small cadre of civilian space trackers.

   CODE-NAMED "MISTY," the CIA-designed satellite was first launched in
1990, before the Persian Gulf War, and may have been replenished since.
   "The Wizards of Langley," a history of the CIA's top-secret
Directorate of Science and Technology, notes that the United States may have
tried to hide the successful first launch of Misty by making it seem that
the satellite had exploded before reaching its final orbit. Richelson says
the ruse fooled the American media - and, more importantly, the Soviet
Union.

10 YEARS OF RESEARCH
   The satellite was developed by the CIA directorate's "tool shop," its
Office of Development and Engineering, and launched in March 1990, after
nearly 10 years of research, says Richelson.
   In the early 1980s, the office had determined that Misty could be
successful. "It argued that Soviet radars and cameras were not very capable
and were unlikely to track the satellite," Richelson says.
   That part of the equation turned out to be accurate.

The space shuttle Atlantis carries the spy satellite known as Misty into
space in March 1990 at the start of a classified Pentagon mission.

   "When it was first launched from the space shuttle Atlantis on March
1, 1990, it was believed to be the first advanced KH-11 spacecraft," he
says, referring to the top-of-the-line American spy satellite. "Within
weeks, both U.S. and Soviet space sources reported it had malfunctioned and
would make a 'fiery re-entry in the next 30 days.' Both assessments were
wrong."
   Richelson reports that the only people who successfully kept track of
the flight were civilian space observers in England and Canada who watched a
series of maneuvers performed by the satellite, including the "explosion"
that Richelson believes "may have been a tactic to deceive those monitoring
the satellite."



   One of the observers who spoke to Richelson, Ted Molczan of Toronto,
told NBC News that the supposed explosion took place on March 7, 1990, six
days after launch, and was first reported by the Soviet press.
   "Russia reported it had detected debris," Molczan recalled, "and
NORAD identified six pieces."
   The plan for stealthiness may have involved some clever trickery by
the CIA.
   "The satellite was exceedingly bright, brighter than the KH-11, and
kept in a low orbit, only 250 kilometers (150 miles) above the earth, so it
was easily visible," Molczan said. "Then there was nothing after the
'explosion.' They apparently needed the 'explosion' to be long enough so
they could deploy the stealth masking device."
   U.S. officials may have also used disinformation to enhance the
deception, often discussing the need to develop stealthy satellites, never
letting on that such satellites not only had been developed but launched as
well.

THE RETURN OF MISTY
   The observers, however, spotted the satellite again in November 1990
after it made a series of maneuvers apparently intended to put it in better
position to monitor the Persian Gulf, where U.S. and allied forces were
preparing to drive Saddam Hussein's troops out of Kuwait.
Intelligence historian Jeffrey Richelson's latest book focuses on four
decades of innovation and inside secrets at the CIA's Directorate of Science
and Technology.
Then, last year, a civilian space observer, examining data from
NORAD's unclassified databases, determined that the satellite was still
operating at least as late as 1995 in a 451-by-461-mile orbit, higher than
the KH-11 satellite.
   There were other leaks that he and the observers took advantage of,
says Richelson.
   Less than two weeks after Misty's launch, "to the anger of many in
the National Reconnaissance Office, a patent application was filed,
apparently by the Strategic Defense Initiative office, for a 'Satellite
Signature Suppression Shield,'" he reports in his book.
   The patent for "an inflatable shield for suppressing the
characteristic radiation signature of a satellite" was eventually granted in
1994.
   "The shield is conical-shaped and made from a thin synthetic polymer
film material coated with a radiation reflecting material, such as gold or
aluminum," the p

Re: [CTRL] Who Cares What You Think?

[Aleisha Saba]

-Caveat Lector-

Duhyou mean you doubt that George W. Bush the President said this?
Du?

Bet the guy said this:   Hey Bush - you aren't going to make it four
years

And Bush being somewhat "slow", a Gentleman C - might have had second
thoughts and wanted to know who this creep was.

For one thing - if I had been Bush I would have punched him out.

Duh?

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Re: [CTRL] Who Cares What You Think?

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Yup, sounds absolutely true to me  he said, she said 







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[CTRL] Italian arsenal on hand for G-8 meeting

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Jul. 12,

Italian arsenal on hand for G-8 meeting

Thousands of troops, ships and missile system will comprise security
measures

ROME (AP) - Thousands of troops, including specialists in chemical, nuclear
and biological warfare, will be part of the security used to protect world
leaders at next week's Group of Eight summit in Genoa, the Defence Ministry
said Thursday.

Minesweepers and other ships are also headed to the port city, and a missile
defence system was installed earlier this week, the ministry said.

The government plans to use 2,700 army, navy and air force troops during the
summit, but none will be deployed against demonstrators, according to the
Defence Ministry. They will be used for air and sea patrols, and some
surveillance work.

Crowd control is being left to between 12,000 and 16,000 police officers,
who will be armed with tear gas, water cannon and batons.

Anti-globalization protesters are expected in the thousands at the July
20-22 summit in the Italian port city.

The G-8 will be attended by leaders of Britain, Canada, France, Germany,
Italy, Japan, Russia and the United States. Prime Minister Jean Chretien
will represent Canada.

Protests have evolved into a fixture of international meetings since riots
rocked the 1999 World Trade Organization conference in Seattle and the 2000
meetings of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank in the Czech
Republic.

The anti-missile system set up as a precaution is a short-range,
anti-aircraft battery similar to those deployed at several of the country's
airports, Col. Paolo Bressan said.

Dubbed the SPADA, the land-based system consists of missiles capable with a
range of more than 14 kilometres and an altitude of 1,500 metres, Bressan
said.

Citing security reasons, Bressan refused to say how many missiles the system
contained.

With many leaders, aides and journalists being lodged on ships or in hotels
near the port, and with the conference sites also near the sea, water
security is considered crucial.

Navy personnel, including divers, will be involved in inspecting ship hulls
for mines as well as sea patrols. A torpedo destroyer and a minesweeper are
part of the fleet.

Air force planes will survey the city from the skies, and the army is
supplying paratroopers and bomb disposal experts.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [A-M] Border

[Kris Millegan]

AUDREY'S MISSILES
A weekly newsletter dedicated to the peaceful
reform of the United States government.
NAFTA  ILLEGAL?

 July 6, 2001, Washington, D.C. - The United Steelworkers of
America (USWA) announced today that it has filed a Certiorari petition with
the U.S. Supreme Court, challenging the constitutionality of the North
American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).  If the Supreme Court does not
chicken out and refuse to hear the case or find some other pretext to dodge
the issue, we may expect a ruling from that body sometime next Fall.  A
century ago, Finley Peter Dunne had his favorite Irish bartender, Mr.
Dooley, say this about the court: "no matther whether th' constitution
follows th' flag or not, th' supreme coort follows th' iliction
returns."  As was true in the imperialist days of Teddy Roosevelt, the
Supreme Court just might be influenced by a higher court - the Court of
Public Opinion.  The public needs to use the immense power that it has.

 The outcome of the case the steelworkers have filed is by no means
certain.  Even though NAFTA is plainly a treaty, the government has argued
that it is commercial in nature and thus falls within the government's
powers to regulate under the commerce clause of the Constitution.  Thus,
the government contends that the simple majority used to pass NAFTA was
constitutional and the treaty should stand as it is.  The steel workers
challenge on the basis that NAFTA is a treaty and required a two thirds
vote of the Senate to ratify.  The Supreme Court, sometimes called the "Sup
Cut" by the irreverent, is getting another red hot potato in its lap.  Will
they find a way to justify an agreement that has caused such havoc and
misery on both sides of our border with Mexico?

 NAFTA isn't about free trade, and it never was.  NAFTA was about
opening the Mexican border to the drug traffic and using the cheap labor in
Mexico to exploit the rich consumer market in this country.  It was
supposed to be a "win-win" situation, but wages in Mexico have fallen and
working conditions have worsened in both countries.  The loss of jobs has
threatened our consumer driven market, and there is concern that the
current recession will become a full fledged depression.  The volume of
traffic has made it incredibly easy for criminals to smuggle both people
and drugs.  The news media has concentrated on the poor Mexicans who
"migrate" in and out of this country, but U.S. citizens know that there are
millions of them who have stayed, and millions more who would like to
immigrate and remain in this country.  The flood of immigrants from Mexico
and many other countries and consequent building of homes, highways, and
service structures has damaged our watershed (floods) and overwhelmed our
infrastructure (blackouts).

 What is needed now is massive peaceful demonstrations right at the
heart of the problem:   the U.S. Mexican border.  Have some vacation time
coming?  Why not call some friends,  pack up the old RV and head for
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[CTRL] Fwd: Argentine Debt Creates Fallout That Is Wide

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http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/12/business/worldbusiness/12LATI.html

July 12, 2001

Argentine Debt Creates Fallout That Is Wide
By JONATHAN FUERBRINGER

The fallout from the financial crisis in Argentina was felt outside Latin
America yesterday as the dollar fell and the stocks of some American and
Spanish banks with exposure there dropped.

The Brazilian real also fell to its lowest level since it began trading
freely in 1999, and some Latin American stock markets declined.

"I would just say it is a function of contagion," said David Gilmore, a
partner at Foreign Exchange Analytics in Essex, Conn. "Argentina is sending
a shiver through investors' mindset."

The fear among investors is that Argentina will actually default on its $130
billion of foreign debt or force investors into a restructuring that would
reduce what Argentina owes. Argentina had to pay 14 percent interest rates
to sell $828 million in three-month bills on Tuesday. And many analysts
doubt that the government will be able to cut spending enough to offset the
fall in tax revenues, after three years of recession, and leave enough to
meet foreign debt payments.

Domingo Cavallo, the economic minister of Argentina, said on Tuesday night
that Argentina could not borrow any more and had to reduce its federal
government and provincial deficits by $3 billion. Many analysts doubt that
such cuts are possible given Argentina's complex politics and the approach
of elections in October.

 "A lot of negative expectations are now in the air," said Armínio Fraga,
the president of the central bank of Brazil, which has been hit the hardest
by the fallout from Argentina. "We will see what the future brings."
Referring to Argentina, he said, "They themselves have not given up. I
understand it is not easy."

Mr. Fraga was in New York to meet with investors in an effort to convince
them that Brazil's financial problems are only temporary.

In trading in New York, the dollar fell as the euro rose to 85.91 cents, up
from 85.70 cents on Tuesday. The euro rose as high as 86.88 cents during the
day. Against the Japanese yen, the dollar fell to 124.36, down from 125.37
yen on Tuesday.

While it may seem odd for the dollar to fall when investors are nervous, it
can happen.

First, the dollar has been incredibly strong this year, especially given the
slowdown in economic growth in the United States and the six cuts in
short-term interest rates by the Federal Reserve. Secondly, a lot of this
strength has come from foreigners, Europeans and Japanese, betting that both
the euro and the yen would continue to decline against the dollar.

But these bets on the dollar, Mr. Gilmore said, leave these investors in
risky positions from their point of view. So when there is uncertainty in
the outlook, reducing their risk a little means selling the dollar to buy
back euros or yen.

The Merval stock index in Argentina fell 2.2 percent after a late day rally
reduced its loss for the day. It was down 6 percent Tuesday. The Bolsa index
in Mexico dropped 2.2 percent. The Bovespa stock index in Brazil rallied
enough to turn an early loss of 1.5 percent into a 1.8 percent gain. The
Brazilian real plunged to 2.553 to the dollar, a new low. The Mexican and
Chilean pesos also declined.

Besides affecting the dollar, the fallout from Argentina is also reaching
American banks that have exposure there and in other emerging markets. In
just over two weeks the political and financial crisis in Argentina has
worsened enough to send interest rates on three-month bills up to 14 percent
from 9.1 percent.

In that same two week period, two of the American banks that have big
exposure there, Citibank and J. P. Morgan Chase & Company, have seen their
stocks drop. Shares of Citibank's parent, Citigroup (news/quote), dropped
8.7 percent, and fell 3.1 percent yesterday, to $47.60. J. P. Morgan Chase
is off 5.9 percent for the two weeks. The stock rose slightly yesterday, to
$42.05.

[CTRL] Fwd: Markets Disapprove of Argentina's Plan to Rescue Economy

[Kris Millegan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/13/international/americas/13ARGE.html?todaysh
eadlines

July 13, 2001
Markets Disapprove of Argentina's Plan to Rescue Economy
By CLIFFORD KRAUSS

  Argentine Debt Creates Fallout That Is Wide (July 12, 2001)

BUENOS AIRES, July 12 — Political leaders and investors turned a
disapproving cold shoulder today to a new round of austerity measures
offered by the government, sending local financial markets plummeting and a
chill through some markets abroad.

It was the second jolt in the markets this week for Argentina, which has
been struggling to contain an economic and banking crisis for several
months.

On Tuesday, interest rates spurted as the government auctioned more than
$800 million in short-term bonds. Treasury bill yields soared to 14 percent,
the highest rate in five years. Today, overnight bank rates were quoted as
high as 150 percent, as investors signaled that they considered Argentina's
finances increasingly risky.

Late Wednesday, Economy Minister Domingo Cavallo, who engineered the country
out of a economic morass a decade ago, announced major cuts in public
salaries and pensions and an increase in taxes intended to eliminate a
projected $1.5 billion budget deficit in the second half of the year.
Although the measures would surely be painful, they were proposed to respond
to growing fears internationally that Argentina was heading toward
bankruptcy and a devaluation of its currency.

But the announcement sparked angry threats from labor leaders and chafing
within the already fractious government. Instead of firming the weakening
values of Argentine bonds and stocks, the move only gave economists and
investors more evidence that the government is careering without clear
direction month to month from one divergent economic approach to another.

The Merval stock index here closed down 8.2 percent after having rebounded
from a 13 percent decline. It has fallen 24 percent in two weeks.

The fallout from Argentina has been felt the most in neighboring Brazil,
South America's largest economy and Argentina's largest trading partner. Its
currency fell to a low today against the dollar. The currencies of Mexico
and Chile also fell, as did the leading index on the Mexican stock market.

The effects of Argentina's troubles have not been as severe as past emerging
market crises like those in 1997 and 1998. But in recent days, stock markets
as far away as South Africa, Taiwan and Turkey have been shaken by
Argentina's debt troubles. Today, though some emerging-market currencies
strengthened.

In the United States, stock prices rose, owing mostly to a broad rally after
a bullish forecast by Microsoft. Treasury prices also rose, and some
analysts attributed that to investors' leaving emerging market debt like
Argentine treasury bonds for the safety of United States securities.

The mounting political opposition to the Argentine program appeared intended
to forestall greater austerity measures like cuts in health care, education
and Social Security spending. But it is exactly such cuts that many
economists say will be needed for the government to continue to pay interest
payments on the debt.

The uncertainty of whether the government is strong enough to take such
measures has had the effect of raising interest rates, making debt payments
more expensive.

In recent weeks, a consensus has emerged among Wall Street analysts that a
default or a debt restructuring was probably likely. An outright currency
devaluation, considered less likely, would hurt living standards
significantly.

Neither the United States nor the International Monetary Fund foresee
intervening to help Argentina.

Argentina has suffered through a three-year recession, with unemployment
exceeding 16 percent and a growing number of businesses entering bankruptcy.
In recent weeks, the crisis has been compounded by rapidly rising interest
rates rooted in investor doubts that the central government and provinces
can fulfill their payment obligations on a combined debt of $150 billion.

Those doubts have been stoked by the growing perception that President
Fernando de la Rúa is unable to inspire public confidence or unite his
diverse ruling coalition around a program to manage government finances or
growing social unrest.

Mr. Cavallo announced on Wednesday cuts of 8 to 10 percent in wages for more
than a quarter of a million federal employees and equivalent cuts in pension
benefits for retired government workers. He also proposed an increase in a
financial transactions tax and a new court system to crack down on major tax
evaders. But he stopped short of announcing cuts in services or layoffs of
government workers.

"We have to spend only what we have," Mr. de la Rúa said.

"The public sector will not borrow money at exorbitant rates," Mr. Cavallo
said. "But we will pay the debt. We have money to do so."

He also vowed to keep the value of the Argentine peso tied to the dollar.

Mr. Cavallo's announcement on Wed

[CTRL] Fwd: e news

[Kris Millegan]

UNLIKELY BEDFELLOWS
The ACLU and Rep. Dick Armey, R. Texas, are teaming up to oppose
video face scanning.  Both the conservative Texan and the
liberal lobby group consider the video facial scan system an
invasion of privacy.  In 2001, Visonics Corp. teamed with 36
Tampa police video cameras to scan faces in crowds against a
database of known criminals.  The software system managed to
identify 19 wanted criminals during this year's Super Bowl.  The
Florida police, however, were not able to catch any of the known
suspects.

VIDEO RACISM
Virginia Beach law enforcement officials announced they are
seeking funds for a video camera face ID system similar to the
one deployed by Tampa police.  However, several members of the
local minority community voiced deep concerns over "video racial
profiling" by over-zealous police forces.  Both the Virginia
Beach Police and the Virginia State Police came under fire from
minority groups after the poor handling of summer riots at the
sea-side resort.

DIGITAL DANGER
According to the New York Times, a new internet study shows that
one in five children who go on-line regularly is approached by
strangers for sex.

RSA MISSES TARGET
RSA Security, the number one encryption provider, missed its
target profits.  Wall Street wizards expected RSA to deliver .17
a share but the real figure is .03 or .04 per share.  RSA also
provides digital signature technology used by companies to file
official documents with the edgar data base at the SEC.

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Re: [CTRL] MB: Condit denies affair with teen

[Aleisha Saba]

-Caveat Lector-

I bet there are a few "gentlemen C's"  rolling in the aisles over this
one..

Now lets get the Hell's Angels into the picture - they are let us say,
This Gun Fore Hire?

And Condit is such a little twerp.bullies are like that, aren't
they?

Remember now Fannie Fox - she and Wilbur Mills had a masonic Chemical
Marriage whatever that is - and he gave her his ring?   Had sort of a
biblical ring to it, and then she added coyly (as coy as a floosie
stripper can be) - she added coyly that she kept her dictionary beside
her bed as one would keep the Gideon Bible.

Wonder if Condit is a Mason or in some Satanic Cult for that will be
next - Clay Shaw when they searched his place (Garrison's guy) had a
black hood, some little whips - and all kids of things to do with
"kinky" sex - whatever the hell that is.

In Court we just called this stuff sexual perversion.

Saba

What is that old line - Run into the Roundhouse Condit - they can't
corner you there?

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[CTRL] Fwd: The National Enquirer: Paula Poundstone Secretly Battling Booze

[Aleisha Saba]

Quote by Paula Poundstone in Interview  With Las Vegas SUN (1996)

"Sun: What's the age range of the foster children you take care of?

PP: The majority are newborn. I'm especially good with them before they
can talk. I figure as soon as they can talk, I'm screwed."

Interesting item here re Paula Poundstone but I could not help thinking
of her little friend Rosie O'Donnell - for Rosie had police called to
her house, a child screaming in the night caused a knock at the door -
and a voice said "I am Rosie O'Donnell and I am a Foster Mother"..

Now her little two year old had her teeth knocked out in front and an
injury to her nose - but this is not the child taken away from
her.Rosie took care of these kids herself but omitted the fact, her
lesbian lover lived in the home.

Now Paula took off to a Rehab Center and the police had to "vault" a
wall to get to her; for she had gotten drunk, a self admitted alcoholic
and no doubt her "latent" lesbian and/or pedophile maybe characterists
were causing her to lose control - this dear sweet - oh these wonderful
mother images..

Think one of Paula's kids learned to talk before she could train or
unload it?   Well Paula, now you got screwed by the "screws".

Now of course the records are all sealed - Paula's attorney in on TV
shows now explaining how drink caused the crime to which this lesbian or
whatever she is, was charged - one of several crimes?   Now without a
doubt Paula and Rosie who both worked together and are involved in other
matters, these two lesbians are government examples of how life can be
with two mommies, or maybe two daddies.
how sweet - next thing you know Barney Frank will make a child into his
image?

Have read Paula Poundstone and her remarks about checking out sodomy
laws before going into a state, and boycotting states with sodomy laws
(ie. Georgia was example) and I wondered why a "mother" would want her
"kids" to be around - well most people wanat to protect their children -
right?

So now Paula is "secretly" battling booze?   Then what the hell is this
secret doing in the National Equirer ??? Tell me - who talked,
Paula?

Saba

PAULA POUNDSTONE SECRETLY BATTLING BOOZE
Cops arrested her in rehab

COMEDIAN Paula Poundstone is battling alcoholism and undergoing rehab.

That's the surprising story behind her shocking arrest for child
molestation, insiders reveal.  "Paula's problem is alcohol," says a
friend.
(Now is Paula's problem alcohol or is it lesbianism and what was this
lewd act she performed on a child resulting in police jumping a wall to
get at her - Saba Note]

"That's what led to these child molestation charges against her.

"She's now in rehab and, in fact, was already in rehab when she was
arrested. She realized she was drinking too much and it was affecting
the way; she looked after the children.

"Paula has two nannies and had made arrangements for the children to be
looked after while she was in rehab even before she knew of the
allegations against her. Then she was informed by Family Services of the
charges.

"The children were taken away from her before she went into treatment,
then police went to the rehab center and arrested her."

Police vaulted over a wall at the rehab center to arrest her, according
to reports.

The friend added: "Paula's only concern is the good of the children.
She's determined to beat her drinking problem so she can get back with
her kids."

The 41-year-old funnylady, who has three adoptive and two foster
children, was arrested on June 27 and charged with three counts of
committing a lewd act on a girl under age 14 and endangering two other
girls and two boys.
[Was she training her to be a lesbian??? Saba Note]

She has pleaded not guilty and could face a maximum of 13 years and four
months in prison if convicted.   [Saba Note:  Tell me, what about her
victims - for surely one of them was smart enough to call he police when
this drunken chld molester ran to the safety of a Rehab with a High Wall
for refuge?]

During an appearance on ABC's "Good Morning America," Poundstone's
attorney, Steven Cron, insisted she was innocent of the charges against
her.

"Her involvement with alcohol was the basis for the allegations," said
Cron. "Nevertheless, Paula is adamant, and I am firmly of the belief
that she's not guilty of these charges."

And he revealed that although she is forbidden to have contact with two
of the children, she is allowed monitored visits with the other three.

"Paula is in a rehabilitation program right now and she gets regular
visits with her children," said Cron. "They are monitored, but she's
able to spend time with them.  [SABA NOTE:  Not true - she gets to see
some of her children WITH Supervision no doubt the one's who cannot talk
yet)

"For her children's sake as well as her own, she is determined to deal
with her drinking problem and reunite her family."
Published on: July 11, 2001

Talk about Paula Poundstone and all your favorite celebrities making
news
In T

[CTRL] Fwd: German satanic couple held after ritual murder

[Kris Millegan]

From: Alex Constantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:44 PM

Subject:German satanic couple held after ritual murder

German satanic couple held after ritual murder

Kate Connolly in Berlin
Friday July 13, 2001
The Guardian 

A devil-worshipping newly married German couple were arrested yesterday
after allegedly fleeing the scene of a suspected satanic killing.
The body of a 33-year-old car-parts dealer identified as Frank H was found
on Monday in the couple's flat in the western town of Witten, with 66
machete and hammer wounds.
"The victim was no longer recognisable," a police officer said. "We had to
carry out DNA analysis to discover his identity."
The body was lying next to a black oak coffin, models of human skulls,
upturned crosses and Nazi SS rune stones.
The police also found a hit list naming 15 of the couple's acquaintances
who, it is alleged, they were planning to kill ritualistically.
The pair, named as Manuela B, 22, and Daniel R, 25, were found near Jena,
eastern Germany, yesterday morning: it is said they on their way to
honeymoon at Count Dracula's castle in Transylvania, central Romania.
It was reported that the victim, a colleague of Daniel R, was invited to a
party at the couple's flat.
An investigator said: "The walls were covered in black cloths, and there was
a coffin in the living room." The slogan "When Satan Lives" was scrawled on
the window. 
The man is thought to have died last Friday, July 6, a date supposedly
chosen for the satanic symbolism of number six.
The shaven-headed, body-pierced Daniel and his pink-haired, leather-clad
bride Manuela were said to have met through an occult chat-line earlier this
year, and had their first date at an old cemetery in Recklinghausen.
They chose the symbolic date of June 6 (sixth of the sixth) for their
register-office wedding and told the wedding photographer that their
honeymoon destination was Dracula's castle.
Manuela's parents told the newspaper Bild that her flirtation with satanism
began when she was 13, and that her relationships took on increasingly
disturbing characteristics. An early boyfriend told Bild that she had bitten
him in the neck, screaming "I want your blood!"
Another ex-boyfriend said: "She told me straight away that she was a
satanist. We hit each other during sex, and wore leather dog collars with
studs." 
Daniel's parents said his contact with the occult scene became intense
around the time of his final school exams, and became really serious after
he met Manuela. 
Friends said the pair practised sado-masochistic sex, repeated extreme
rightwing slogans, and had an obsession with blood.
On the mailbox of Daniel's mobile phone was the lyric: "I drink your blood,
I eat your skin." 
The victim's parents said their son had no links with the occult scene. "He
was a loving, faithful, and sensitive boy."
He had recently been left by a girlfriend and was considering becoming a
monk, they added. 
On Saturday the couple, dubbed the "satanic Bonnie and Clyde", drove to
Hanover and bought new tyres for their Opel Vectra, which they were reported
to have covered with five-pointed stars, another satanic symbol.
They were spotted on Sunday filling up with petrol in Sonderhausen, in the
eastern state of Thüringen.
The area has held a strong attraction for satanists since 1993, when
17-year-old Hendrik Möbus, the leader of a satanist group, murdered a fellow
pupil. 
When they were arrested yesterday and they had wiped off the occult symbols
and fitted a stolen number plate.
The incident has highlighted the strong link between satanism and rightwing
extremism in Germany, both of which glorify power. The couple's flat
contained various pieces of Nazi memorabilia.
Möbus latched onto the radical right after his release from prison in 1998
after serving five years of an eight-year term.
He became a popular figure on the far-right scene following the success of
his rock band.

[CTRL] Dateline Tonight: CRIMES BY THE CLINTONS AND OTHERS TO BE REVEALED

[MIKE SPITZER]

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
7/13/2001
Press Office
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CRIMES BY THE CLINTONS AND OTHERS TO BE REVEALED TONIGHT  ON ABC'S "20/20"

DATE: Friday, July 13, 2001

NETWORK: ABC
TIME: 10:00 pm ET


(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that
investigates and prosecutes public abuse and corruption, will "watch" with
interest as its client, Peter Paul, and others detail perhaps the biggest
campaign finance crime in the history of American politics on ABC's "20/20"
tonight.

Peter Paul, who now resides in Brazil, donated $2 million in "in kind"
campaign contributions to finance the Hollywood Tribute to Bill Clinton,
which netted $1.5 million for Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign. ABC's
"20/20" will reveal hard evidence that Mrs. Clinton did not report these
contributions as she was required to do under law to the Federal Election
Commission.

In addition, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Ed Rendell (now
a candidate for governor of Pennsylvania) will be implicated in the
Pardongate scandal, along with other high-level Democratic Party officials.

Peter Paul has already filed a civil complaint in the Superior Court of Los
Angeles against the Clintons and others to recoup his $2 million in
campaign contributions. Hollywood stars such as Barbra Streisand, Cher,
Brad Pitt and John Travolta will be material witnesses in the case since
they have knowledge of Peter Paul's involvement in the Hollywood Tribute
for Bill Clinton. Monday, prior to Judicial Watch's press conference at
12:00 noon ED at the National Press Club, Peter Paul will also file a
complaint with the Federal Election Commission against Hillary Clinton and
her campaign.

The ABC "20/20" piece has been in the works for over six weeks, and Brian
Ross and his staff traveled to Brazil to interview Peter Paul, as well as
conducted other interviews of actors in this scandal. ABC News was able to
verify Peter Paul's story.

"Typically, Peter Paul, as the 'givee,' has been indicted by the U.S.
Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, while no action has been
taken by federal authorities in New York against the Clintons. ABC's
'20/20' piece should change this equation, once the hard evidence that the
Clintons have committed egregious criminal acts becomes known to the
American people," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry
Klayman.



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[CTRL] Saolon: ABC's messy role in Condit affair

[MIKE SPITZER]

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 [What the heck is ABC News doing by going to Condit rather than the
police? And what gives ABC the right to present a timeline to the public
that ABC News has doctored?]


http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/07/13/abc/index.html


ABC's messy role in Condit affair

The network now says one of its reporters -- the subject of tabloid
rumors -- claims she never met with Condit the day he claims they did; the
day Chandra Levy most likely disappeared.

By Joshua Micah Marshall


July 13, 2001 | WASHINGTON -- As the Gary Condit-Chandra Levy affair burst
into the full flower of scandal at the end of June, Condit's office
provided Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police with a timeline of Condit's
activities on the crucial days surrounding Levy's disappearance. Learning
of the existence of the timeline, ABC News subsequently requested a copy,
and received one from a source in Rep. Condit's office.

What soon became apparent to reporters and producers at ABC News, though,
was that there were two critical portions of the timeline that simply did
not seem true. And the network struggled with this information for nearly
three weeks before fully detailing the nature of the discrepancies during
the Wednesday edition of "Nightline."

One of ABC's own off-air reporters had met with Condit about an unrelated
matter (the California energy crisis) on the day after Levy's
disappearance, May 2. But the timeline provided to ABC News appeared to say
that this meeting had occurred on May 1 -- the very day Levy went missing.

Further complicating the matter for ABC were ambiguities surrounding
Condit's relationship with the ABC reporter in question. The New York Post
has reported (and Fox News trumpeted) that Condit had an affair with an ABC
producer and, based on information in the Post, and according to sources
within the network, it's clear that this is the same woman who had met with
Condit on May 2. The romantic link, however, is firmly and unequivocally
denied by the network. "This reporter," an ABC News executive told Salon on
Thursday, "has had a professional relationship with Congressman Condit for
years, nothing more than that, period."

So the story plays out like this: According to ABC sources, the ABC News
off-air reporter met with Rep. Condit at the Tryst restaurant (that's no
joke) on May 2, between 3 p.m. and 6 p.m., to discuss the California energy
crisis. The reporter eventually circulated an e-mail to this effect within
ABC's Washington Bureau long before the significance of the meeting became
known. Yet the timeline provided by the Condit camp made no mention of this
meeting, even though it did cover the day in question.

The Condit timeline did, however, mention another meeting at the same
location with an unnamed reporter -- but with one critical difference.
Rather than taking place on the afternoon of May 2, the timeline had this
meeting taking place between 6:30 p.m. and 7:30 p.m. on May 1. Police place
Chandra's last known whereabouts in her apartment early on May 1, in part
because of an e-mail she apparently sent from her computer that morning.

Producers and reporters at ABC News could not at first be certain that the
purported May 1 meeting was not with some other reporter from another news
organization (no names were supplied in the timeline). But they were quite
certain that they knew where the congressman was the following afternoon,
and that his timeline did not reflect his whereabouts. "We had no way of
knowing," the same ABC News executive told Salon on Thursday, "whether this
was a sin of omission or commission, or whether there were two different
meetings."

Based on the apparent discrepancy, however, ABC immediately contacted both
the congressman's office and his legal team. "We went back to his attorney
Abbe Lowell's office," said the same ABC News executive. "We said, 'We know
there was a meeting with an ABC news reporter but we don't see it on [the
timeline].' They told us 'this was just a draft, just a draft of a timeline
which is neither complete nor completely accurate.' We asked, 'Who was the
meeting with on Tuesday and why isn't there [any mention of a meeting] on
Wednesday?' They said they'd get back to us. But we have never gotten an
official response." According to another print reporter covering the case,
Condit's chief of staff Mike Lynch, later refused to distribute copies of
the timeline to other news organizations, telling the reporter that the
timeline contained "mistakes" and that he had been chastised by members of
Condit's legal team for releasing the timeline to ABC News.

This back-and-forth with the Condit camp placed ABC News producers in an
awkward position. In a strictly factual sense, a source in the
congressman's office had provided them with an alibi for his whereabouts on
the day of Chandra Levy's disappearance, which they first suspected and
then later knew to be false. However, according to the same ABC News
executive, they had no way of kn

[CTRL] MB: Condit denies affair with teen

[MIKE SPITZER]

-Caveat Lector-

[At this point, I really wonder why this freak even bothers!  --MS]


http://www.modbee.com/metro/story/0,1113,281907,00.html


Modesto Bee
July 13, 2001

Condit denies affair with teen

By JEFF JARDINE

Rep. Gary Condit's chief of staff said Thursday that the congressman from
Ceres denies having had an affair with -- or even knowing -- the daughter
of a Modesto minister.

O.C. Thomas told the FBI, The Bee and The Washington Post that his daughter
Jennifer had a relationship with Condit that began when she was 18 or 19
years old and lasted until she was about 21.

Mike Lynch, Condit's chief of staff, said repeatedly during an interview
with The Bee that Condit told him there was no such relationship.

"He said this is just not true," Lynch said. "We've asked him about The
Post story, and he said it's just not true."

Lynch also noted a letter purportedly written by Jennifer Thomas saying she
had never met "the congressman who's involved in all this."

While denying the alleged relationship between Condit and Thomas, Lynch
declined to confirm or deny reported affairs with missing intern Chandra
Levy and flight attendant Anne Marie Smith.

Addressing criticism over Condit's public silence, Lynch said the
congressman has indicated that he will "talk about this case in detail once
it is appropriate in terms of the investigation."

Lynch also told The Bee that Condit intends to run for re-election in 2002.

"We decided some time ago he would run," Lynch said. "There's no change in
those plans."

That decision, he said, was made before the disappearance of Levy.

She was last seen April 30 in Washington, D.C., a week after completing an
internship at the Bureau of Prisons.

Condit, 53, reportedly admitted to investigators in Washington, D.C., that
he and Levy, 24, were romantically involved. Police have said he is not a
suspect in her disappearance, which the department is investigating as a
missing person case.

Thomas' father reported that his daughter, now 26, has fled the area in
fear. He said he encouraged her to come forward with information about the
alleged affair because he believed it was her best source of protection.
The father, the longtime gardener for Levy's parents, Robert and Susan Levy
of Modesto, said he believes the affair happened sometime between 1993 and
1996.

Lynch complained that news reports on the alleged affair are based on
hearsay from the father, with no confirmation from Jennifer Thomas.

"What link is there to Gary Condit?" he asked, claiming that the story fell
below The Bee's usual journalistic standards.

Condit's former driver, Vince Flammini of Ceres, echoed Lynch's assertions,
saying Thursday that he had never heard of Jennifer Thomas.

"That's a bull story," Flammini said. "I worked for him all through
that time. I was his driver. I've never seen that girl in my life."

Flammini also disputed that Condit took Thomas to his home in Ceres, as her
father contends.

"Gary would never do that," said Flammini, who earlier confirmed Condit's
relationship with Smith, the flight attendant. "There's no way I ever took
girls to Gary's house. I don't know how it could have gotten by me."

O.C. Thomas could not be reached for comment Thursday.

But others affiliated with his church, the Prayer Mission Church of God in
Christ in Modesto, said they do not believe he would fabricate a story such
as the one he has told regarding his daughter and Condit.

"I just can't see him doing that," said Ester Ard, wife of the church's
pastor. "He's a very caring person. There's nothing he won't do for a
person."

Thomas was described as compassionate, honest and upstanding. He served as
a pastor at another church until heart trouble forced him to retire. Thomas
does volunteer maintenance at Prayer Mission Church.

Pamela Niblett, who occasionally attends the church, described Thomas and
his wife as giving.

"They're good people," said Niblett, 34, of Modesto.

Thomas' daughter does not attend the church, Ard said.

Visitors to the Thomas family's apartment in Ceres were greeted by a
handwritten note on the door. It began, "My name is Jennifer Thomas."

The letter stated that neither she nor her father would consent to
interviews, she never knew the Levys or Chandra, and that she never met
"that congressman who's involved in all this."

A neighbor in the complex said Jennifer Thomas has a twin sister named
Janet. The neighbor, Betty Hoffman, said media who went to the apartment
Wednesday night probably spoke with Janet and not Jennifer, who is believed
to still be out of the area.

In his interview with The Bee, Lynch addressed other issues that have
followed Condit since Levy disappeared:

He discounted reports from various media suggesting that Condit staff
members have become demoralized because of the constant media frenzy
involving their boss.

"No one has talked to me about leaving or quitting," he said. "It's been
more of a case of pulling together and helping each other 

[CTRL] FC: Australian man convicted for downloading explicit text files (fwd)

[Yardbird]

-Caveat Lector-

The Ohio guy:
http://www.politechbot.com/p-02223.html

- Forwarded message from Eric Cordian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: Eric Cordian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thoughtcrime in Australia
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:51:21 -0700 (PDT)

No sooner has that guy in Ohio gone to the slammer for 10 years for his
naughty diary, than some judge in Australia has fined a person $10k for
downloading naughty text stories on the Internet.

Will www.nifty.org and www.assgm.com survive?

And in a very odd and cleverly worded op-ed piece...

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/34569.htm

The New York Post has suggested that locking up Mr. Dalton was wrong
because he didn't show his story to anyone, while observing in passing
that such a sentence would have been just fine if Mr. Dalton had "posted
his story on the Net", or "shown it to a friend."

Goodness, we can't have that, can we?

Kind of makes one side with those who believe that the solution to
god-soaked religious cretins is an emergency lion-breeding program.

-

http://www.thewest.com.au/20010712/news/perth/tw-news-perth-home-sto15793.html

July 12, 2001
Child porn fiction gets fine of $10,000
By Bronwyn Peace

A MAN has been fined $10,000 for possessing stories about child
pornography even though the judge said they were not as serious as
pornographic pictures because they were fictional and there were no
victims.

...

Last month, prosecutor Gail Archer told the court that Keogh should be
jailed for the pornographic stories, which were found on his home computer
by his stepdaughter's boyfriend.

She said the stories, which detailed gang rape, bestiality and incest, had
titles such as Bonnie Goes Camping, The Little Homewrecker and Prince and
His Princess. "All of the stories are quite detailed, quite graphic and
incredibly unpleasant," she said.

Ms Archer said Keogh admitted to police he owned the stories but said he
did not know they were illegal and that they helped him cope with his past
abuse. She said any downloading of child pornography encouraged the
exploitation of children.

...

The judge said Keogh, who until now had led a blameless life, deserved a
significant fine.

--
Eric Michael Cordian 0+
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[CTRL] Favourite Son

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Go here to find out the official information on Gary C.

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Re: [CTRL] Settlers being killed,kidnapped and robbed by Islamicmilitant grou...

[thew]

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sorry prudy, but your facts are just wrong here
palestine was divided by the british mandate, and the part that became
jordan was given to the hashemite kingdom BY THE BRITISH, for their helping
the british during world war 1. The majority population of jordan are
palestinian, and they are being ruled by a minority group that the british
installed into power.

their populations are to paraphrase you very interchangeble: -

On August 23,1959, the Prime Minister of Jordan stated, "We are the
Government of Palestine, the army of Palestine and the refugees of
Palestine."

"Let us not forget the East Bank of the (River) Jordan, where seventy per
cent of the inhabitants belong to the Palestinian nation."
- George Habash, leader of the PFLP section of the PLO, writing in
the PLO publication Sha-un Falastinia, February 1970


"Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is one people and one
land, with one history and one and the same fate."
- Prince Hassan, brother of King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian
National Assembly, 2nd February 1970


"There should be a kind of linkage because Jordanians and Palestinians are
considered by the PLO as one people."
- Farouk Kadoumi, head of the PLO Political Department, quoted in
Newsweek, 14th March 1977

check this website (or any good history book)

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/jordan.html :


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> From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 08:41:19 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Settlers being killed,kidnapped and robbed by
> Islamicmilitant grou...
>
> -Caveat Lector-
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> In a message dated 07/13/2001 2:17:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> << >
>> the funny thing of course is that jordan is as much palestine as israel,
> but
>> no one cries to return to amman, or the fact that the "jordanians" are
>> keeping the palestinans away from self rule as well >>
>
> Aren't we talking about two different countries here?  Why do you think that
> Jordanians are Palestinians?  Palestine was a country before it was given to
> the Jewish survivors of the Holocaust by a couple of countries with bad
> consciences.  There are even Palestinian Christians and Jews, although the
> latter have no cause to complain about the present arrangement.  The Israeli
> tend to refer to all Moslems as "Arabs."  Now this is very convenient for
> their efforts to dehumanize their designated enemy, and I guess it makes it
> easier for them to torment and kill the general civilian population which
> they want to exterminate, but Palestine is Palestine and Jordan is Jordan.
> Their populations are not interchangeable.  Prudy
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[CTRL] [HOLY $H!T!! CHECK THIS!! ] Fw: NM: Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder

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Friday, July 13, 2001


Condit: Gays, Bisexuals and Murder

By John LeBoutillier


Yesterday I spoke to "RJ" - an inside-the-Beltway source who, over the
years, has never steered me wrong.

RJ said, "John, do you know the true story of Gary Condit?"

RJ continued then proceeeded to outline a scenario for what happened in
this case:"Condit has been known inside the gay community here in DC for
being a big, big user of gay male prostitutes - especially blacks from the
Caribbean who ride motorcycles and love to wear black leather.

"Condit lives in Adams Morgan - a terrible commute to and from the Hill -
and it is a notorious neighborhood for gays and bisexuals.

"Now, here is the dirty little secret behind the disappearance of Chandra
Levy: Condit goes both ways. He likes to get sodomized by male prostitutes
before having sex with women. The gay sex turns him on and he can then
"perform" with women.

"Condit had one particular Caribbean male prostitute that he frequented.

When it was determined that Chandra had to go, this guy was given the
assignment. He picked her up on his motorcycle, took off some where, killed
her, and dumped her body. Then, on orders from Condit and with money from
Condit, he headed back to Haiti or wherever he came from - far, far away
from investigators and the Feds."

The media has heard all of this - but has yet to report it. The other
night, both Michael Issikoff of Newsweek and Tom Squitieri of USA TODAY
referred to "dark aspects of this story that we can't report yet."

Other media players are aware of all of this - and more: apparently Condit
liked three-ways and even four-ways with himself, the male gay prostitute
and two women.

Some of his girlfriends obviously knew of this over the years; some
participated in the three-way sex. This explains his absolute paranoia over
any of the girls ever talking about their relationships with him.

And it explains the fear we are now hearing about from not just the flight
attendant, Anne Marie Smith, but others, too.

This also explains why Abbe Lowell only wants one or two questions asked on
the lie detector, such as, "Do you know what happened to Chandra?"

Condit probably does not know - on purpose - what the gay male prostitute
did with her - so he might very well successfully pass that question on a
lie detector test.

No wonder Lowell doesn't want wide-ranging questions. All of this horrible
mess would soon be revealed and confirmed.

As for Chandra leaving her apartment with only her keys? As RJ put it,
"Perhaps the only time a woman would leave her purse behind would be to
ride on the back of a motorcycle."

Now, the big questions are these:

1) Is the FBI honestly investigating this absolutely perverted behavior and
this scenario?

2) Do the Feds have the guts to pursue such a sick scenario?

3) Does the media - many of who already know much of this - report it -
and expose this sick bisexual and gay behavior? Recently the Mainstream
Media loves to portray gay victims of violent crime but often ignores gay
perpetrators of violent crime. Will the media put aside their Politically
Correct view of bi-sexualism and prostitution and tell the truth here?

4) Will the Feds track down this gay male black prostitute - or multiple
gay prostitutes - who have had dealings with Condit?

If RJ's scenario if accurate then poor Chandra - and other Condit
girlfriends - have fallen into the sickest group of perverts imaginable.

No wonder Condit, representing a conservative district, went bananas every
time one of his girlfriends talked.

Buckle your seatbelts: things are going to explode soon.


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Re: [CTRL] STUDENT FACES EXPULSION FROM COLLEGE FOR WEARING SCOTTISH ATTIRE

[kl]

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On 13 Jul 2001, at 9:29, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

>
> I really would like to see your justification for allowing students to
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I will refer you back to Prudy's excellent post on the topic.
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[CTRL] NYP: CONDIT 'AFFAIR' TEEN HAD BABY

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huh?  --MS]



http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/29218.htm

New York Post
July 13, 2001

CONDIT 'AFFAIR' TEEN HAD BABY

By NILES LATHEM, STEVE DUNLEAVY, EDMUND NEWTON, and ANDY GELLER


A minister's daughter gave birth to a son during the two years she
allegedly had an affair with Rep. Gary Condit - whom she dumped him because
of his sexual demands, The Post has learned. Jennifer Lynn Thomas, 26, had
an affair with the California Democrat that began in 1993 or 1994 - when
she was 18 or 19 - and ended two years later, says her father, Pentecostal
minister Otis Thomas.

A distraught Jennifer broke off the relationship because of the married
Condit's sexual requests, sources said.

On Sept. 15, 1994 - while the affair was supposedly going on - Jennifer
bore a son, now 6 years old, at Doctors Medical Center in Modesto,
according to a birth certificate filed in the Stanislaus County Recorder's
Office in Modesto.

The word "withheld" is written in the box for the father's name.

Jennifer - a quiet, attractive black-haired woman who has a twin sister,
Janet - met Condit, who represents the Modesto district, at a rally at
California State University.

Otis Thomas told the FBI about his daughter's affair following the April 30
disappearance of Chandra Levy, with whom Condit admits having an affair.

Two newspapers published interviews with Otis Thomas yesterday. He could
not be reached by The Post.

In a note left on the door of the apartment she shares with her father, son
and twin sister, Jennifer denied a relationship.

"I never met that congressman who's involved in this. I don't even know how
both me and my father got mixed up in this. We don't know anything,"
the note read.

Marina Ein, a spokeswoman for Condit, did not return calls for comment.

Chandra vanished after completing a six-month internship with the Bureau of
Prisons in Washington.

Police searched vacant buildings near her apartment yesterday but found no
sign of the attractive 24-year-old brunette. The search will continue.

Police plan to release computer-enhanced photos of Chandra - as a blonde,
with short hair and with a ponytail - to cover the possibility that she
intentionally vanished.

In other developments:

* Federal prosecutors have begun a preliminary investigation into whether
Condit obstructed justice when he allegedly asked flight attendant Anne
Marie Smith to sign an affidavit denying they had an affair. Condit denies
asking Smith to lie.

Smith was interviewed by federal prosecutors again yesterday.

* Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) became the first congressman to demand Condit's
resignation, saying his colleague "obstructed an ongoing police
investigation."

* Chandra's parents, Robert and Susan Levy, told the Fox network's
"America's Most Wanted: America Fights Back" that although some reports say
their daughter may have been pregnant when she vanished, they have no
evidence that's true.

If she was expecting, her parents say, they would have welcomed the news.



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[CTRL] JUDICIAL WATCH VICTORY IN CHINESE ESPIONAGE CASE

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
7/12/2001
Press Office
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JUDICIAL WATCH VICTORY IN CHINESE ESPIONAGE CASE

GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED FOR DELAYING TACTICS

Defamation Lawsuit by Whistleblower Notra Trulock Against Wen Ho Lee Will
Proceed Over Government Objections

To Help Discovery, Court Orders Government to Release Report on Wen Ho Lee
by August 13

Wen Ho Lee, Freeh, Reno Among Slate of Witnesses to Deposed


(Washington, DC) A federal magistrate judge, overruling objections by the
government, ordered discovery to proceed in Energy Department whistleblower
Notra Trulock's defamation lawsuits against convicted felon Wen Ho Lee and
Energy intelligence officials Robert Vrooman and Charles Washington. All
three defamed Mr. Trulock, who uncovered Chinese espionage at our nation's
nuclear laboratories, as targeting Lee because of his ethnicity.

The government had intervened at the last minute in an attempt to delay and
prevent discovery into alleged "government secrets."

Judicial Watch pointed out to the court that the nearly all relevant
aspects of the Wen Ho Lee espionage investigation are in the public domain
and unclassified. The court, evidently agreeing, ordered discovery to
proceed into "non-classified areas" and ordered the government to release
portions of a report on the Wen Ho Lee investigation by August 13.

It is expected that the facts and conclusions in the report will not only
be helpful to the case, but be of great public interest. The magistrate
judge made his ruling on Tuesday, July 10.

Magistrate Judge Thomas Rawles Jones, Jr. also sanctioned the government
for its "belated" attempt to seek a protective order, ordering the
government to pay certain costs which Judicial Watch incurred in having to
cancel depositions because of the governments last minute filings.

In addition to Lee and the other defendants, Judicial Watch will depose
Janet Reno and Louis Freeh about the botched Wen Ho Lee investigation.

"Wen Ho Lee, in order to deflect attention from his own wrongdoing, falsely
accused Notra Trulock of conducting a racial witch-hunt against him. In
order to rescue his good name and reputation, Trulock will show that Lee
was subjected to an inquiry for espionage by the Department of Energy
because of his actions, not because of his race,"stated Judicial Watch
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[CTRL] NYP: Condit's 'ABC Reporter/Paramour' Involved in Another Scandal

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[Kasich and Condit were good buddies.  Kasich, a republican even flew to CA
and spoke at a Condit fundraiser.  One rumor about Kasich was that he was
having a relationship with a male staff member.  The two of them lived
together in DC.  I guess the rumor could be based on what was only a money
saving situation?  Naah!]

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

New York Post

July 12, 2001

Small world

THE off-air ABC reporter Rep. Gary Condit met with the day after Chandra
Levy disappeared was involved in another scandal involving a powerful
politician and a buxom intern. The Post is not publishing the name of the
ABC reporter who is said to have had an affair with Condit but is now
married. But it is known she worked for U.N. Ambassador Bill Richardson
when he was asked to give Monica Lewinsky a job. And Condit's cutie was the
first in Richardson's office to interview her.

###

INFO FROM FR THREAD FOLLOWS:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b4d65ea0cce.htm#1

[AN FR THREAD 2 DAYS AGO HAD SPECULATED THAT THIS ABC REPORTER WAS
ELIZABETH WILNER:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b4b09ff60d9.htm , AND IN THE POSTS
BELOW, THIS ABC REPORTER'S IDENTITY IS THOUGHT TO BE REBECCA COOPER. GOOD
STUFF!!! ]


To: kattracks

Mona Sutphen and Rebecca Cooper


5 Posted on 07/12/2001 02:12:45 PDT by
paul544 --

To: paul544

On Friday morning, October 31, Ambassador Richardson and two of his
assistants, Mona Sutphen and Rebecca Cooper, interviewed Ms. Lewinsky at
the Watergate.(646) According to Ambassador Richardson, he "listen[ed]
while Mona and Rebecca were interviewing her."(647) Neither Ambassador
Richardson nor any of his staff made inquiries, before or after the
interview, about Ms. Lewinsky's prior work performance.(648)


>From the Starr Report.

Does one of these two work for ABC?

--

To: paul544

confided to ABCNEWS' Rebecca Cooper

This is one of the many articles at ABC News that have her mentioned

http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/onbackground/onbackground00010
7.html

Do we have a winner???


7 Posted on 07/12/2001 02:30:29 PDT by paul544

--

To: YaYa123

Good morning! Glad you were reading last night's late, late posts. You're
right - the Snow interview was one of the best. BTW, his eulogy of his
friend Ken is one of the most moving I've ever read. I hope someday - a
LONG time from now - someone writes something this nice about me.

I have a whole bunch of new Condit thoughts. In no particular order:

1. Who owns the car? Where is it kept? A garage? An empty warehouse? Did a
staff member drive Chandra and Condit around as he did Condit and Ann
Marie?

2. How did Condit get from his office, to the doctor, to the restaurant to
meet the ABC reporter, then home to his wife? Did someone drive him?
Cabs?

3. Aren't you intrigued about the Sanchez connection? Whoa! >p>

4. John Kasich was (is?) a good friend of Condit. Kasich hasn't been
married too long. Did they 'double date'? Is anyone asking Kasich what he
knows?
There were lots of rumors about Kasich before he married. You don't
supposeno, I don't think so.

5. Why is NO ONE (but us) concerned about Condit's seat on the Intelligence
Committee? I think he's been on that committee waaay too long. The cloak
and dagger business with the women hiding in the alleys, taking the back
stairs, getting off the elevator on another floor, leaving ID at home - all
sounds like a James Bond wannabe.

6. BTW, don't you find the idea of these women 'dating' a married man
pathetic?

7. Is anyone checking out the 'rape' allegation in CA in 1986?

8. Chandra's aunt said Condit bought her chocolates, flowers, a gold
bracelet and AIRLINE TICKETS. Where did she go? Did he go with her? I can't
see him buying tickets (plural) for her to go home - Daddy would likely
have done that.

9. The girl from Modesto (the intern from 5 years ago with the phone
numbers), the Minister's daughter, Chandra - all fit the Monica mold.
But Ann Marie is different - older, smarter, more sophisticated, harder to
fool than those young girls. Is she the exception to the rule, or isn't it
equally likely that there are more of her type as yet undiscovered?

10. He offered a reward for another girl from Modesto. Did she ever show
up? How old was she? Was she an intern? I'll keep thinking and looking
around.


34 Posted on 07/12/2001 05:48:42 PDT by SmartBlonde

---

To: BansheeBill

I found this cached at Google. The original source is gone, and so are the
photos. Search on, good FReepers!

Rebecca Cooper, Chief of Staff to Ambassador Bill Richardson, 1986,
Washington Semester Program Alum Journalism Semester

Rebecca Cooper graduated with honors from Duke University in 1988,
receiving a Bachelor of Arts in political science. During her college
career, Ms. Cooper also graduated f

Re: [CTRL] STUDENT FACES EXPULSION FROM COLLEGE FOR WEARING SCOTTISH ATTIRE

[YnrChyldzWyld]

-Caveat Lector-

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, kl wrote:
>> Either this kid was unbelievable stupid, or he deliberately wanted to
>> provoke something...he knew about the zero-tolerance policy and
>> deliberately chose to break it,
>
>It's good to see that a few students haven't been fully brainwashed by
>the PC teachers and administrators.  Zero tolerance policies are made
>by people with zero intelligence or maybe even IQ's in negative
>numbers.  They should be opposed by every thinking person.  He
>deserves approval and support.

So you are saying that students should be allowed to bring any manner of
weapon onto school property?

Or are you suggesting that just Caucasians be allowed this priviledge?

This is not a new policy...back when I was in school in the 60s, any
student would have been busted for bringing a knife to school or into a
school dance...there were gangs even back then, and carrying a knife was
a siren call to have a 'rumble'...

I really would like to see your justification for allowing students to
carry knives on themselves to school and to school dances...


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On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:
>dirty fingers on his precious knife.  To my knowledge no child in this area
>was ever injured by one of these knives in all the years I attended school.
>Apparently we have become a nation of idiots who cannot carry any weapons
>anywhere for fear of sudden transmutation into mass killers.

Perhaps, but more to the point we have become a nation where children
have not been taught ethics and morals, and who believe that their
personal desires are the only thing of importance.  They have not been
told 'no' when they demanded something, and so have not learned to
tolerate even the slightest amount of frustration.  These children do not
hesitate to hurt anyone who causes them discomfort.

I can understand having a zero-tolerance policy in schools for carrying
weapons, as long as it applies to REAL weapons and not something like a
nail clipper.

This boy KNEW that what he was bringing to the school dance was clearly a
weapon -- the item is designed for no other use but as a weapon -- and
chose to ignore or flaunt the policy.  He should not be surprised at the
consequences.



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Re: [CTRL] STUDENT FACES EXPULSION FROM COLLEGE FOR WEARING SCOTTISH ATTIRE

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Andrew Hennessey wrote:
>> Mr. Hix then did not leave well enough alone, and must have
>> taken the knife out for some reason at the dance, because it could
>> not otherwise be seen.
>
>not true - the hilt and gemstone pommel are always clearly visible
>protruding from the sock.

It was not visible when Mr. Hix appeared on an American morning news show
in full regalia.  Neither hilt nor pommel were visible before he pulled
it out of his sock (and the item did not have any gemstone, unless it was
too tiny to be made out on camera)...

If the getup Mr. Hix was wearing on the television show was the EXACT
getup he wore to the school dance, then the knife was definitely NOT
visible to the casual observer...


>someone therefore saw the hilt and deduced knife - not 'the guy brandished
>it'

The zero-tolerance policy doesn't care if someone brandishes a
weapon...just bringing it onto school property is an infraction.


>he was stupid but not intimidating as you are attempting to lead us to
>beleive

I never claimed he was intimidating.  I AM saying he was either very
stupid for including an item he knew very clearly violated a well-known
school policy, or he deliberately flaunted violating that policy.  Either
way, he knew what the consequences would be...


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[CTRL] AP: FEC to Release Records in Democratic Fund-Raising Probe

[MIKE SPITZER]

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FEC to Release Records in Democratic Fund-Raising Probe

The Associated Press
Published: Jul 12, 2001


WASHINGTON (AP) - Documents from a federal probe into campaign activities
coordinated by the Democratic National Committee and AFL-CIO will be
released despite objections by the DNC and union.

The Federal Election Commission voted 4-0 in closed session Wednesday to
open for public inspection roughly 36,000 pages of records from its
investigation.

The DNC and AFL-CIO contended many of the documents contained confidential
information and should be withheld from public view.

The commission released about 6,000 pages in the spring, then withdrew the
records after the DNC and the union objected.

The FEC concluded last fall that close ties between the union and the DNC
during the 1996 election were not illegal due to a federal court ruling
imposing a stricter standard for determining illegal coordination.

The commission began investigating after Republicans complained that the
AFL-CIO spent up to $35 million to help Democrats in the 1996 elections.

Republicans contended that the level of coordination between union and
party officials made the spending illegal.

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Re: [CTRL] STUDENT FACES EXPULSION FROM COLLEGE FOR WEARING SCOTTISH ATTIRE

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On 12 Jul 2001, at 23:38, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

>
> Either this kid was unbelievable stupid, or he deliberately wanted to
> provoke something...he knew about the zero-tolerance policy and
> deliberately chose to break it,

It's good to see that a few students haven't been fully brainwashed by
the PC teachers and administrators.  Zero tolerance policies are made
by people with zero intelligence or maybe even IQ's in negative
numbers.  They should be opposed by every thinking person.  He
deserves approval and support.
--

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Re: [CTRL] STUDENT FACES EXPULSION FROM COLLEGE FOR WEARING SCOTTISH ATTIRE

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 07/12/2001 11:39:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< Either this kid was unbelievable stupid, or he deliberately wanted to
 provoke something...he knew about the zero-tolerance policy and deliberately
 chose to break it, when complying would not have adversely affected his
 costume in the least, since the knife could not normally be seen.

 Which brings up the 2nd point...choosing to deliberately flaunt the
 zero-tolerance policy, Mr. Hix then did not leave well enough alone, and
 must have taken the knife out for some reason at the dance, because it could
 not otherwise be seen. >>

Yeah, but it still boggles my mind.  I can remember when every fourth and
fifth grader's dream was to own hightops.  These were a heavy leather boot
that reached almost to the knee.  A factor of each pair was a large jackknife
that had its own leather pouch sewn right into the boot.  Our boy scouts
(those who came in uniform due to some special occasion always had their boy
scout knife on them.  Boys did occasionally play a game called mumbly peg on
the school grounds before school started.  Otherwise the knives were much
admired, and almost never seen open, because no one wanted anyone else's
dirty fingers on his precious knife.  To my knowledge no child in this area
was ever injured by one of these knives in all the years I attended school.
Apparently we have become a nation of idiots who cannot carry any weapons
anywhere for fear of sudden transmutation into mass killers.  Even our french
fries have become lethal.  No one has mentioned it yet, but our restaurants
should start serving meat cut into bite sized pieces so customers to not have
to handle knives, and the chef who cuts the meat for them should be under
armed guard at all times.  One never knows when one of these guys will pop.
Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Big Brother's New Prohibition

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One is too many. Ask my family -- my cousin was killed by a drunk
driver when I was 17. Kent was driving a semi, a drunk in a converted
school bus crossed 3 lanes of traffic and hit him head on. He was 25,
he had gotten engaged to be married 2 weeks before. The drunk driver
was also killed. I wish he could have survived, and been required to
attend Kent's funeral, and seen the devastation he wreaked upon my
family. I wish he would have survived to look into my aunt's eyes and
explain himself to her. Drunk driving is an activity that the person
chooses to do; don't look to me for sympathy. The only positive thing
(if you can call it that) from Kent's death was that, for myself and my
friends, it drove home the point about drinking and driving -- none of
us has ever driven after drinking.

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Re: [CTRL] Settlers being killed,kidnapped and robbed by Islamicmilitant grou...

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In a message dated 07/13/2001 2:17:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< >
 > the funny thing of course is that jordan is as much palestine as israel,
but
 > no one cries to return to amman, or the fact that the "jordanians" are
 > keeping the palestinans away from self rule as well >>

Aren't we talking about two different countries here?  Why do you think that
Jordanians are Palestinians?  Palestine was a country before it was given to
the Jewish survivors of the Holocaust by a couple of countries with bad
consciences.  There are even Palestinian Christians and Jews, although the
latter have no cause to complain about the present arrangement.  The Israeli
tend to refer to all Moslems as "Arabs."  Now this is very convenient for
their efforts to dehumanize their designated enemy, and I guess it makes it
easier for them to torment and kill the general civilian population which
they want to exterminate, but Palestine is Palestine and Jordan is Jordan.
Their populations are not interchangeable.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted, Say Scientis ts

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> -Original Message-
> From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted, Say
> Scientists

> Freon causes depletion of the ozone layer, not global
> warming. Do your research
> before making stupid pronouncements.
>
And yet, at least one brilliant scientist calls the scientific
establishment's party line that CFCs destroy the ozone layer "the stupidest
thing I have ever heard." Instead, it is the burning of jet fuel by
commercial aircraft that causes the problem.

Doing research on any topic long enough and deep enough will find equally
convincing arguments on both sides of the issue. Most researchers only give
credence to evidence that supports their view; that is how the scientific
establishment approaches things.

I guess when the establishment supports a particular view they are right.
Someone offering a different viewpoint is not necessarily "stupid" and the
use of the word itself shows a tendency toward rigidity and intolerance of
other views. Then again, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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Re: [CTRL] CNSNews: Former Mass. Boy Scout Leader Guilty in State's'Largest-Ever' Pedophile Case

[Tenorlove]

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This tells me the Mass. organization as a whole was not properly
implementing safeguards. There is a BSA-wide policy prohibiting leaders
from being alone 1 on 1 with any child; this is written in the manuals
given to the boys, and in the supplement given to parents at the
beginning of the year. Whenever a boy joins our pack, prevention of
sexual abuse is the first thing they are instructed in. Also, all
leaders are required to undergo a criminal background check and a
training session during which time those with questionable personality
or psychological characteristics are weeded out. Anticipating the
question, I don't know how they decide this. Since I'm not a leader,
I've not gone through the training myself. Being a leader is a huge
time committment, which I can't make. I content myself with manning the
sign-up/brochure desk at pack meetings. I haven't discussed the
situation with the leadership in our pack, but at the next committee
meeting in Sept., I will bring it up.

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[CTRL] Drudge: National Enquire: Chandra Levy Was Pregnant; Her Computer, Cell Phone Were Used Day After She Went Missing

[MIKE SPITZER]

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X DRUDGE REPORT X THURS JULY 12, 2001 15:49:00 ET X


NATIONAL ENQUIRER: CHANDRA LEVY WAS PREGNANT; HER COMPUTER, CELL PHONE WERE
USED DAY AFTER SHE WENT MISSING

The NATIONAL ENQUIRER is reporting in its July 24 edition set to hit
newstands on Friday that missing intern Chandra Levy was pregnant with
Congressman Gary Condit's baby!

"Authorities have information that Chandra told at least one friend that
she was pregnant -- and she said the baby was Condit's," a source close to
the investigation disclosed to the ENQUIRER.

The ENQUIRER cites a Justice Department source:

"A friend told investigators Chandra said she was pregnant. The FBI and
Washington D.C. police have subpoenaed her medical records. One
investigator told me: 'We believe Levy was pregnant!'

The source also added, "The FBI does believe her disappearance is a 'love
crime.'"

The ENQUIRER quotes a source who says that at least 5 women who were
romantically involved with Condit are now afraid of him, and are keeping a
low profile.

The ENQUIRER quotes a cousin of Chandra's, Michael Maistelman, who says
that stewardess and former Condit lover Anne Marie Smiths's accounts of
being followed "closely parallel" those told by Jennifer Baker, a former
Condit intern and the person who introduced Levy to the congressman.

"Jennifer is getting the same kind of phone calls and is convinced she's
being followed," said Maistelman, who helped the Levys get the FBI involved
in the case.

According to a source at Justice, investigators "have records indicating
someone used Chandra's computer the day after she was last seen on April
30, and that her cell phone had also been used on May 1."

"Her computer was definitely logged on with her password."

DEVELOPING HOT...


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Re: [CTRL] STUDENT FACES EXPULSION FROM COLLEGE FOR WEARING SCOTTISH ATTIRE

[Andrew Hennessey]

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> Which brings up the 2nd point...choosing to deliberately flaunt the
> zero-tolerance policy, Mr. Hix then did not leave well enough alone, and
> must have taken the knife out for some reason at the dance, because it
could
> not otherwise be seen.

not true - the hilt and gemstone pommel are always clearly visible
protruding from the sock.
someone therefore saw the hilt and deduced knife - not 'the guy brandished
it'

he was stupid but not intimidating as you are attempting to lead us to
beleive

andrew hennessey
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Re: [CTRL] No Sex For Two Years

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<< "Importing such a huge consignment of condoms implies that the government
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 Conference in a statement. "The church is saddened to know that our
 government has given in to donor pressures clearly aimed at
 commercialising AIDS at the expense of the lives of our people," it said.

 The Secretary-General of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya,
 Sheikh Mohamed Dor, said the country was "committing suicide" importing so
 many condoms, a move he said would encourage young people to experiment
 with sex. >>

Absolutely.  I can understand that no one wants condoms in Africa.  This way
the entire population will be gone within twenty years.  Think of all that
land open for colonization and exploitation.  Think of AIDS as a cure for
political unrest.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Beyond Globalization

[Dale Stonehouse]

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Beyond Globalization: Shaping a Sustainable Global Economy
by Hazel Henderson
Increasingly, each of us is coming face to face with the effects of
globalization. Today, this means that there is an entirely new level of
global interdependence. Most realize the profound impact it has had on
national economies, financial markets, corporations, production,
distribution, trade and the spread of democracy. But far fewer are aware of
the enormous effects that globalization is also having on the environment,
cultural diversity and lifestyle choices.

To add some perspective to the situation, Bucky Fuller wrote in the
introduction to Critical Path that, "humanity is moving ever deeper into
crisis, a crisis without precedent. First, it is a crisis brought about by
cosmic evolution irrevocably intent upon completely transforming
omni-disintegrated humanity from a complex of around-the-world,
remotely-deployed-from-one-another, differently colored, differently
credoed, differently cultured, differently communicating, and differently
competing entities into a completely integrated, comprehensively
inter-considerate, harmonious whole. Second, we are in an unprecedented
crisis because cosmic evolution is also irrevocably intent upon making
omni-integrated humanity omni-successful, able to live sustainingly at an
unprecedentedly higher standard of living for all Earthians."

At issue is not whether globalization is demonstrating that it has the power
and speed to radically alter the prospects for humanity. The big question
is, will the dominant operating paradigm shift rapidly enough from an
ecologically destructive, win-lose proposition to an ecologically
restorative win-win solution? If not, humanity's option for success is in
serious jeopardy. Indeed, time is of the essence!

It is our good fortune to have a new book by Hazel Henderson, the
independent futurist, worldwide syndicated columnist, author, and consultant
on sustainable development. A quick and easy read, Beyond Globalization
provides a concise and visionary summary in 58 pages, of the driving forces,
real problems, positive potentials, and accountabilities that surround this
complex and highly controversial phenomenon. Most important, she outlines in
a brilliantly clear manner a seven level strategy to reshape the global
economy towards an ecologically sustainable win-win world that works for
everyone. The seven levels that are addressed are:


The Global System
The International System
The Nation State
The Corporate System
The Provincial and Local Systems
The Civic Society
The Family-Individual

What's the bottom line according to Henderson? "For every country in the
world to shift to sustainable development would cost $650 billion. That
leaves $350 billion left from the $1 trillion in subsidies to
unsustainability."

The book was commissioned by the New Economics Foundation,
(www.neweconomics.org) whose mission is to "construct a new economy centered
on people and the environment." It also contains a bibliography organized to
correspond with Henderson's seven level strategy, a comprehensive list of
international treaties pointing to a new era of planetary awareness and
cooperation and a useful directory of select periodicals and organizations.

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Re: [CTRL] ISRAELIS GENERALS' PLAN TO "SMASH" PALESTINIANS (fwd)

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Sounds pretty reasonable (even cut and dried) to me.  I don't know what
they'll do to start it off, but remember that really good witnesses said that
the explosion on the Maine was internal.  I'm surprised the Israeli have held
off as long as they have.  I don't know how you say"The only good Palestinian
is a dead Palestinian" in Hebrew, but I'll be they can tell you without a lot
of thought.   I hope I live long enough to see how they celebrate the
national holiday of victory that will result from the purge.  I only hope
that after they've finally eliminated the Palestinians, my government will
stop sending them my tax dollars.  Prudy

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[CTRL] CNSNews: Condit Admitted Sex Crimimal

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Condit Broke Local Law Prohibiting Adultery

CNSNews.com
July 13, 2001

(Washingtom D.C.) In the District of Columbia and 27 other states, adultery
is a misdemeanor crime, with punishments ranging from a $10 fine to life in
prison, the Libertarian Party noted on Thursday.

Therefore, said Libertarian National Director Steve Dasbach, "California
Congressman [Gary] Condit is a sex criminal - he confessed when he
acknowledged having an affair with Chandra Levy."

In making his point about unnecessary and obsolete laws, Dasbach said, "The
only question now is whether the Congressman should go to jail for
committing this sex crime."

The Libertarians say the Condit case is interesting because it illustrates
the stark difference between two types of crimes - "those that harm others
and those that do not."

The Libertarian Party urged D.C. police to continue looking for the person
who may have harmed Chandra Levy.

Police should "not spend one second prosecuting Congressman Condit for the
so-called crime of adultery," the press release said.


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[CTRL] See and Be Seen

[Dale Stonehouse]

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See and Be Seen


Does your TV spy on you?


by Brendan I. Koerner


July/August 2001


Media executives and TV addicts alike have been celebrating the advent of 
interactive television, like TiVo and Microsoft's  UltimateTV. But the technology has 
the  potential of turning into a public-relations nightmare. In March, the 
Denver-based Privacy Foundation reported that TiVo, a popular set-top box that can 
digitally record up to 30 hours of programming, sends nightly activity reports back to 
corporate headquarters. Using a built-in modem, TiVo transmits reams of information on 
everything from the console's internal temperature to users' viewing records. Do you 
have a weakness for "Judge Judy" that you'd prefer to keep secret? The folks at TiVo 
can find out.
  The company insists that it removes the data's personal markers and keeps only 
"anonymous viewing information." But Richard M. Smith, the Privacy Foundation's chief 
technology officer, says the practice conflicts with TiVo's written promise to its 
customers that "all of your personal viewing information remains on your receiver in 
your home."
  Any of TiVo's 150,000-some users can opt out of the data collection, but few 
have done so—perhaps because the opt-out instructions are buried deep within the 
Byzantine literature that accompanies the device. And while the company's privacy 
policy forbids the peddling of customer information to advertisers, the manual takes 
care to note that rules "may change over time."
  The Privacy Foundation report, and testimony from Smith at a House Energy and 
Commerce Committee hearing in April, spurred the Federal Trade Commission to launch an 
inquiry into whether TiVo violates its own data-collection guidelines. But  technology 
companies are well prepared to counter such government intervention. The industry has 
organized to oppose legislation that would ban any data harvesting not explicitly 
authorized by the customer. Groups like the innocuous-sounding Online Privacy Alliance 
(OPA)—whose members include Microsoft, AOL, and Yahoo—advocate letting the industry 
regulate itself.
   Among the lobby's primary targets have been state lawmakers, particularly in 
California. Last year, high-tech clout helped defeat a bill in the California 
legislature that would have prohibited interactive TV providers from disclosing 
customers' viewing habits. aol circulated a letter to legislators claiming the law 
"would harm the development of the Internet and e-commerce," and the American 
Electronics Association (another OPA member) spent more than $140,000 on lobbying in 
the three months during which the bill was debated.
  The California measure was killed in committee, but the industry has had little 
time to celebrate. Over the first four months of this year, 465 privacy-related laws 
were introduced in state legislatures around the nation. If corporate data collection 
becomes an "opt-in" practice, as many of those bills propose, interactive TV will end 
up being far less interactive than its creators had hoped.

Read the article online:

 http://www.motherjones.com/magazine/JA01/tivo.html

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