[CTRL] Gary Condit: gay love affairs and the murder of Chandra Levy
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related New Paradigms Posts at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: Mr. Chronicle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gary Condit: gay love affairs and the murder of Chandra Levy Date: Monday, July 16, 2001 6:15 PM http://etherzone.com/lebo071401.shtml CONGRESSMAN GARY CONDIT: GAYS, BISEXUALS AND MURDER By: John LeBoutillier Editor's note: The following article appeared Friday, July 13, 2001 on NewsMax.com. After being a headliner for most of the day, the article was mysteriously pulled without explanation. For the benefit of our readers who have inquired on this matter, here is the article in its entirety. Yesterday I spoke to RJ - an inside-the-Beltway source who, over the years, has never steered me wrong. RJ said, John, do you know the true story of Gary Condit? RJ continued then proceeeded to outline a scenario for what happened in this case:Condit has been known inside the gay community here in DC for being a big, big user of gay male prostitutes - especially blacks from the Caribbean who ride motorcycles and love to wear black leather. Condit lives in Adams Morgan - a terrible commute to and from the Hill - and it is a notorious neighborhood for gays and bisexuals. Now, here is the dirty little secret behind the disappearance of Chandra Levy: Condit goes both ways. He likes to get sodomized by male prostitutes before having sex with women. The gay sex turns him on and he can then perform with women. Condit had one particular Caribbean male prostitute that he frequented. When it was determined that Chandra had to go, this guy was given the assignment. He picked her up on his motorcycle, took off some where, killed her, and dumped her body. Then, on orders from Condit and with money from Condit, he headed back to Haiti or wherever he came from - far, far away from investigators and the Feds. The media has heard all of this - but has yet to report it. The other night, both Michael Issikoff of Newsweek and Tom Squitieri of USA TODAY referred to dark aspects of this story that we can't report yet. Other media players are aware of all of this - and more: apparently Condit liked three-ways and even four-ways with himself, the male gay prostitute and two women. Some of his girlfriends obviously knew of this over the years; some participated in the three-way sex. This explains his absolute paranoia over any of the girls ever talking about their relationships with him. And it explains the fear we are now hearing about from not just the flight attendant, Anne Marie Smith, but others, too. This also explains why Abbe Lowell only wants one or two questions asked on the lie detector, such as, Do you know what happened to Chandra? Condit probably does not know - on purpose - what the gay male prostitute did with her - so he might very well successfully pass that question on a lie detector test. No wonder Lowell doesn't want wide-ranging questions. All of this horrible mess would soon be revealed and confirmed. As for Chandra leaving her apartment with only her keys? As RJ put it, Perhaps the only time a woman would leave her purse behind would be to ride on the back of a motorcycle. Now, the big questions are these: 1) Is the FBI honestly investigating this absolutely perverted behavior and this scenario? 2) Do the Feds have the guts to pursue such a sick scenario? 3) Does the media - many of who already know much of this - report it - and expose this sick bisexual and gay behavior? Recently the Mainstream Media loves to portray gay victims of violent crime but often ignores gay perpetrators of violent crime. Will the media put aside their Politically Correct view of bi-sexualism and prostitution and tell the truth here? 4) Will the Feds track down this gay male black prostitute - or multiple gay prostitutes - who have had dealings with Condit? If RJ's scenario if accurate then poor Chandra - and other Condit girlfriends - have fallen into the sickest group of perverts imaginable. No wonder Condit, representing a conservative district, went bananas every time one of his girlfriends talked. Buckle your seatbelts: things are going to explode soon. John LeBoutillier is a former U.S. Congressman and a nationally recognized political commentator. He has been a frequent guest on many national talk show programs, including the Today show, ABC's 20/20, Nightline and CNN's Crossfire. Mail this article to a friend(s) in two clicks! Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE
[CTRL] The Liberty Committee
-Caveat Lector- Meet the Liberty Committee Current, former members of Congress, citizens join forces -- -- By Julie Foster © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com A group dedicated to the Declaration of Independence clause that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, has grown to include more than 60,000 citizen activists in its two short years of existence. Based in Falls Church, Va., the Liberty Committee brings together members of Congress and American citizens in a grass-roots effort to reduce the size and scope of government. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, is honorary chair of the group, which partners with the congressional Liberty Caucus. The latter boasts both current and former congressional representatives as its members, while the former is made of ordinary citizens. The Liberty Committee has seen tremendous growth since it was founded concurrently with the congressional Liberty Caucus. During the last two years, Liberty Committee activists and Liberty Caucus members joined forces to defend and advance liberty by being actively involved in our national legislative process. Executive orders, national sovereignty, and privacy were the issues that called for our greatest efforts during these last two years. I am pleased to tell you that our efforts met with success, wrote Paul in an open letter to current and prospective Liberty Committee members. From the Liberty Committee's website, members have the opportunity to keep abreast of current legislative proposals key to the cause of liberty. They can also electronically sign and send letters to representatives, lobbying their causes. This year, those causes included the repeal of the 16th Amendment, which authorized income taxes in 1913. Members are also advocating a repeal of withholdings taxes. If successful, employers will no longer be required to confiscate taxes from employees' paychecks and route the funds to the IRS. Citizens would have to pay their total tax liability without intervention by employers â a move that would create renewed awareness of dollar amounts individuals pay to their government, proponents say. Liberty Committee members are also asking President George W. Bush to rescind the signature of the United States of America to the International Criminal Court Treaty that former President Clinton authorized on December 31, 2000. The ICC has been ratified by 36 countries so far. Once 60 countries have ratified the treaty creating the court, the new judicial body will formally be established. Clinton claimed he signed the treaty to ensure the United States is included in formation of the court's procedures. But Republican leadership in Congress has vowed not to ratify the treaty, however, should Bush submit the proposal for legislators' consideration. In response to growing worldwide support for the ICC â Canada ratified the treaty last July â and to the increasing role of the United Nations in American policy, Liberty Committee members have banded together to support H.R. 1146, the American Sovereignty Restoration Act. The bill would withdraw the United States from the United Nations and prohibit U.S. armed forces from serving under U.N. command. Liberty Committee Executive Director Kent Snyder summed up the phenomenon that drives the group in a letter he wrote Wednesday. One thing politicians will fight to keep is power, whether that power is stolen from the people or not. As long as the people are asleep, politicians get away with their illicit power grabs. One power grab leads to another, and too soon, the people are without liberty because piece by piece, they let their political power slip away, he wrote Wednesday. The letter continues with an explanation of the constitutional limits of campaign-finance reform measures. Paul believes opponents to proposals such as the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance reform measure are correct when they say such measures are unconstitutional. The bills violate the First Amendment, says Snyder, making them illegal. The Constitution specifically does not give to representatives and senators the power to make laws affecting campaigns so they cannot control the outcome of their own re-elections (and for good reason!). But how many Washington politicians will stand on the floor of the House or Senate and admit the truth ... that the only power they have is that limited, specific power granted by the Constitution? he wrote. In addition to the Liberty Committee's congressional membership, the group's senior legal adviser is attorney Herb Titus, who holds a Harvard law degree. Titus taught constitutional law, common law and other subjects for nearly 30 years at five different American Bar Association-approved law schools. He also served as the founding dean of the College of Law and Government at Regent University in Virginia.
[CTRL] Fwd: AFL-CIO and Sierra Agree: ALL CALL TOMORROW
Forwarded Message: Subj: AFL-CIO and Sierra Agree: ALL CALL TOMORROW Date: 7/16/01 1:33:13 PM Mountain Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dolan) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Action-LA List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BA-FairTrade List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FT-Labor List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FTAA List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ftaacollab LIST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Labor2K List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Org List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stop-FTAA List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tradefield List), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TW List) The AFL-CIO paid for your toll-free call to your congress member. 1-800-393-1082 It works! It's easy! July 17th: all-call day to STOP Fast Track *** July 17th: all-call day to STOP Fast Track ** July 17th: all-call day to STOP Fast Track ** July 17th: all-call day to STOP Fast TrackMake sure YOUR Member of Congress hears the message loud clear: trade deals like NAFTA and the WTO have hurt workers, the environment, consumers, family farmers and must be stopped! On Tuesday July 17th call Congress at 1800-393-1082 and tell your Representative to oppose Fast Track. Then get all your friends and family to do the same. If everybody does this one simple thing, we can beat Fast Track.=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=The AFL-CIO and their various international unions are part of a massive campaign against Fast Track all over the U.S., united with environmentalists, consumer advocates, family farmers and students to name a few. This is the coalition that defeated Fast Track in 1997, the Multilateral Agreement on Investment in 1998 and the launch of a new round of multilateral trade talks at the World Trade Organization's Ministerial meeting in Seattle in 1999. Now it's time to gear up for another win in 2001 - we must kill Fast Track! Fast Track could come up for a vote before August Recess. The GOP House leadership has introduced H.R. 2149, a Fast Track which does not address the need to include strong enforceable provisions on labor or the environment in trade and investment agreements. They have teamed up with the corporate lobby group US Trade and are actively lobbying Members of Congress on Capitol Hill and around the country. Of course they have lots of money to spend, something we do not - BUT we have the workers, family farmers, environmentalists, consumers, fair trade activists, students, people of faith and YOU to help us defeat this retrograde trade legislation.We are happy to join the AFL-CIO in their call for a national all-call day on Congress on July 17th, and urge you to mark your calendar for this important opportunity to tell your Member of Congress to stand up for working families and the environment by saying NO to Fast Track. Tell your Representative that labor and environmental provisions MUST be included in the core text of any trade agreement, and have the same kind of enforcement mechanisms as commercial provisions.You can find more information ways to take action against Fast Track on our web-page: http://www.tradewatch.org/FastTrack/fastrac.htm, as well as on the AFL-CIO's Fast Track: http://www.aflcio.org/globaleconomy/index.htm Share this alert with friends family!=-=-=-=-=-! =-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Working Families e-Activist Network-- www.aflcio.org Stop Fast Track---Don't Export More Jobs!Your action is needed now to derail Fast Track. President George W. Bush and giant corporations want a special bill that will let them rush trade agreements through Congress with no changes and minimal review.If Congress gives Bush Fast Track, we'll see:+ More and faster trade deals like NAFTA,+ More U.S. job losses and smaller wages,+ More attacks on workers' rights across the globe,+ And more devastating pollution of our air and water.You can help stop Fast Track in its tracks. Congress is expected to decide in July on giving President Bush Fast Track trade negotiating authority.Here is what you can do.Call your members of Congress on Tuesday, July 17---the Fast Tracke-Activist National Call-in Day.Call them toll-free at 1-800-393-1082.Tell your members of Congress: Working families need fair and balancedtrade that protects people and the environment---NOT Fast Track.Forward this message to friends, family and co-workers who might beinterested. You can start calling Congress today, but remember to call on Tuesday, July 17.*** Stop Fast Track Call-In Day,this Tuesday, July 17Urgent Action AlertSierra Club's Responsible Trade ProgramPresident Bush wants Congress to give him fast track trade authority toexpand environmentally destructive trade deals such as NAFTA to morecountries. The Sierra Club is joining with the AFL-CIO to declare Tuesday,July 17 a Stop Fast Track Call-In Day to the US House of Representatives.Fast Track
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...
-Caveat Lector- And are you going to whine for that same very long, long time? Is this the first time in history that a President was elected by a majority of the electoral vote, but not the popular? If you STILL do not understand the purpose and design of the Electoral College, and are STILL outraged that a huge mob of folks all jammed together in one area still did not prevail with their block voting, then we have very little common ground for a reasonable discussion. The Electoral College may seem unwieldy NOW, but there was a definite wise PURPOSE for its design and inclusion in our Constitution. Just like the current wisdom of the intellectuals and sheeple in 1913, who decided it ever so much more desirable to have direct election of Senators by the people, it seems clever now to abolish this so unwieldy and cumbersome Electoral College, not realizing that it was designed EXACTLY FOR SCENARIOS LIKE THIS ONE PAST. Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/16/2001 1:22:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He won ...Get over it. No, he didn't win. He got over that necessity quite nicely. He has the presidency. We do have to adjust to the Republican way of taking over the country. Most of us have resigned ourselves to having a Bush Boob in office who is making sure that his corporate benefactors get to rape and exploit us. It will take this country a long, long time to get over it. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Condit Is Conservative by Day, Liberal at Night
Find this item interesting - Condit lives in this Bohemian Adams Morgan District and little Chandra had out her map on TV of this Klingle Mansion and if you note this Adams Morgan District and Klingon Mansion district are next door neighbors. Could it be a meeting was to take place; Chandra is alleged to have visited that guy's apartment, but when - maybe that night? Seems strange he would permit her to meet in his apartment in this rather naughty area when he traveled in such secrecy and by the way, these pictures of him on his web site are 20 years old an do over and over people write how young he is? He looks 20 years older han his age. So his is one item re this location and then an interesting item re Klingle Mansion area where Chandra took the time to target on her computer? Saba ...Around the World in a Flash! Condit Is Conservative by Day, Liberal at Night New York Post | May 18, 2001 He's so conservative he voted to quash flag burning. Yet he once moshed at a Pearl Jam concert and posed astride a Harley Davidson motorcycle for a raunchy biker mag. The life of Congressman Gary Condit - whose relationship to missing intern Chandra Levy is under question after she disappeared - seems marked by contradictions. Among Capitol Hill regulars, the conservative son of a Baptist minister is described as a smooth talker and a sharp dresser. Detractors call him Mr. Blow-Dry. *** Condit eschews the Washington suburbs to live among the young, hip college crowd in the bohemian Adams Morgan, a Washington, D.C., neighborhood that is the district's answer to the East Village. But unlike many congressmen who bring their families to Washington, his wife, Carolyn, whom he married at 19, lives full time back in the strait-laced rural environs of Ceres in Northern California. [Saba Note: She lives with her children and he does the traveling back and forth with exception of this visit right during Chandra's disappearance] A source close to the congressman says health problems kept her at home, although Condit frequently flies to see her on weekends. Condit began his career in Ceres at 24 as a city councilman. A political prodigy with burning ambition, he was a state assemblyman at 28. Even then, he ran with the in-crowd and had his share of female fans. When he was in the state legislature, he and fellow state Democrats frequented a bar, Pargary's, one high-ranking California Democrat, who remembered Condit's younger days, told The Post. He was pretty social when he was in Sacramento. He got around and he was popular with women. When Condit won his seat on Capitol Hill in 1989, he earned a reputation as the most conservative Democrat in the Golden State's congressional delegation. Several years later, he helped found the Blue Dog Democrats - a group that backs GOP issues and is helping President Bush. Because of this maverick role, MSNBC named Condit one of the eight top Democratic Power Brokers. He's a good congressman, said California agricultural lobbyist Julian Heron. He works hard. He looks after his constituents' interests, and he takes his job very seriously. Though he leans right on the Hill by day, he's a liberal free spirit at night. Choosing a condo in Adams Morgan - which Condit admitted Levy once visited - is a strong statement because [Saba note: When, the night she targeted the area in which she looked up Klingle Mansion] Congress members normally choose the Virginia or Maryland suburbs. Condit's love of motorcycles and rock is unusual in congressional circles. When Condit went to a concert by the grunge group Pearl Jam with friend Republican Rep. John Kasich of Ohio, he didn't hold back. He got himself in a mosh pit, Kasich told The Modesto Bee in a 1996 interview. He thought people were trying to fight him. © NEWS-MINUTE.COM All Rights Reserved Doin' the News Since May of '98 In Memory Of: Steve and Diane, Two Americans Might add the Klingle Mansion area - a guy named JJ Canela who was friend to Congressman Traficanta and almost went to slammer - donated $500,000 dollars to have a building named after his daughter whom he wanted to or did run for congress and who was involved with the Streisand fund raiserlater he pled guilty to a bribe, etc. So here is an item and I have deleted information that was not relavant but it appears Condit lived near Klingle Mansion area? Klingle Mansion has been used for think tank sessions in the past and has an Old Mill Stream for this Mansion once was a Mill Saba //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// Saba Note - Reference to Adam Morgan area, this Bohemian district in which Condit lived? The area sounds like an area one would not want to be in streets after twilight timeSaba Note. East of the Park for Klingle Valley April 2, 2001 Contact: Vicki Linton, (202) 232-0921 East of the Park Group Exceeds Goal with 1,200 Signatures to Save Klingle Valley Park East of the Park for Klingle Valley, a group of Mount Pleasant and
Re: [CTRL] Agriculture After Global Warming
-Caveat Lector- --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most scientists agree that the levels of the greenhouse gas CO2 in the atmosphere are rising due to the burning of coal, oil, and natural gas. Nakano comments: This report is intended to be alarming. Let's look at the facts another way. How much carbon dioxide are we talking about? 1. Only 0.03 percent of the earth's atmosphere is carbon dioxide (CO2). 2. CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels account for only a small portion of the .03% of CO2 in the total atmosphere. 3. All greenhouse gases combined make up only 2 percent of the atmosphere. 4. Over 90% of that 2% of greenhouse gases are from natural causes (not man made). 5. Less than 5% of the 2% are man made. 6. If there were zero greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the earth would be a cold and inhospitable place...we need them. Is this confusing? The point is, only a tiny fraction of one percent of the atmosphere is carbon dioxide and most of that is not manmade. Even if the burning of all fossil fuels were to be completely stopped today, this whould not have a major effect on Global Climate. The Global Warming - Greenhouse Gas scare story is designed to justify the placing of strict international taxes and controls on the use of energy. One result will be that electricity, gasoline, coal, and fuel oil will have far higher prices. The standard of living will plunge in the weathier industrialized countries. Underlying all of this will be the establishment of international authority over national sovereignty and authority. International laws and rules will supercede national laws. THIS IS A HUGE STEP TOWARD ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. There are some questions you should be asking yourself. Are you ready to pay international taxes? Are you ready to pay tremendously higher energy prices? Are you ready for America to start giving up its national sovereignty in large chunks? Do you think that a tiny fraction of 1 percent of the atmosphere is reason enough to answer yes to all of the above? Do you think that possibly you have not been told the truth about all of this? Do you think that it's possible this entire Global Warming thing has been concocted to stampede the people into accepting serious international authority over their lives? The greatest fears are born in the imagination. The powers behind the Global Warming scare know this. Regards to All Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years
-Caveat Lector- No, it doesn't mean that. But will exposing it, complaining about it, delighting in it raise his IQ even one point? Will it help our country one bit? Rejoice folks, gw is only doing those things which ag would have. You've basically won. Not a Constitutionalist in sight. Steve wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 15 Jul 01, at 23:22, BB wrote: He won ...Get over it. So does that mean we should not examine the President critically? Not even a Bush? Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Confiscation of Registered Guns Begins in Illinois
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Confiscation of Registered Guns Begins in Illinois http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=4685 The Chicago Police Department and the Illinois State Police have teamed up to make good on Mayor Daley's pledge that, if it were up to him, nobody would have a gun. Daley and his elite CAGE unit are apparently taking advantage of gun privacy loopholes to pinpoint certain individuals for inclusion in the confiscation program. The ISRA is following up on leads in one case that has distrubing implications. An elderly first-generation Chicago resident was recently paid a visit by an Illinois State Police trooper. After asking to come inside the man's home, the trooper asked if the man owned a gun - to which he replied yes. The trooper then directed the individual to surrender the firearm. The man complied with the officer's demand and the trooper left with the gun. And the story gets better... The gun in question was purchased legally by the man in the 1970s shortly after he became a U.S. citizen. When Chicago's infamous gun registration scheme went into effect in the early 1980s, the man registered the firearm as per the requirement. However, over the years, the fellow apparenlty forgot to re-register the firearm, and forgot to renew his Illinois FOID Card. So...what does this all mean? In the last edition of The Illinois Shooter, we reported on the activities of a shady taskforce known as the Chicago Anti Gun Efforcement (CAGE) unit. This elite squad, operated jointly by the Illinois State Police, the Chicago Police Department, and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, supposedly exists to identify illegal gunrunners. However, information gained by the ISRA makes it clear that the CAGE unit is targeting law-abiding citizens, not criminal gunrunners. Thanks to a ruling by a liberal federal judge, the CAGE unit now has the name of every single person in the United States who, since 1992, lawfully purchased more than one handgun in the period of a week. The CAGE unit also has all the makes, models and serial numbers of those guns. In essence, the Chicago Police Department is now registering guns and gun owners nationwide. The ISRA has also learned that the CAGE unit has compiled a list of families where more than one person in that family holds a FOID card. Acting on that information, the CAGE unit is now contacting gun shops where those families have shopped, and is illegally registering all guns purchased by those families. Now, it appears that the CAGE unit is scrubbing Chicago's gun registration list against the list of FOID card holders. Indications are that folks who have let their registrations and FOIDs lapse will have their guns confiscated. We have to wonder how long it will be until state troopers show up at the doors to confiscate the guns of non-Chicago residents who have let their FOIDs expire. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ of all Presidentsof Past 50 Years
-Caveat Lector- Ah, YES -- The Lovenstein Institute of Scranton, Pennsylvania EVERYONE knows of them MORE paragons of truth!! Dale Stonehouse wrote: -Caveat Lector- If late night TV comedy is an indicator, then there has never been as widespread a perception that a president is not intellectually qualified for the position he holds as there is with President GW Bush. In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton, Pennsylvania detailed its findings of a four month study of the intelligence quotient of President George W. Bush. People who found it a good idea to vote for a borderline intellect must like the idea of having a president who is as dumb or dumber than they are. This is one of the drawbacks of letting everyone vote; they don't have to pick the best or smartest candidate. Maybe we need an IQ qualification for the right to vote. I think the Third Reich may have considered doing just that. The image of the USA will suffer during the Bush administration, but the American people will survive it, just as we survived other less-than-brilliant presidents. And if Nixon is an indication, intellect isn't always used to the country's benefit. And the brains of Jimmy Carter that we loved so much didn't make him a great leader. Maybe intellect is overrated. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years
-Caveat Lector- STOLED? DUH? Perhaps you will ponder this: Your precious press now alleges that SIX MILLION votes nation wide were improperly counted or discounted. Could you suppose that ANY of them just might possible have been cast for non-democrats?? I heard nothing from your side when the entire 18,000 military ballots were challenged from our overseas personnel. Let me say this softly, so as not to blast ears --- ghwb's Supreme Court (I guess he appointed them all) -- STOLED the FRIGGIN ELECTION? One can only ask then, what about the REGULAR election? You're so ignorant that you cannot see that the same agenda which would have been followed by ag is now being followed by the inheritor of the father's Supreme Court, gwb. If you'd be so kind, would you please give an estimate of just how LONG you are going to whine about an election which took place 8 months ago, and as you might have heard in whatever metropolis you inhabit, is now over. Six more months? A year? Two years? I'd like to know, so I can ignore your snipings for that length of time. You lefties have WON, EINSTEIN, and you haven't been able to figure it out yet!!! WAKE UP! And your memory's not too hot either, if you can't remember who posted an article, even as you snipe a reply to it!! And YES, you are DUH! Good signature for you. MIKE SPITZER wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ of allPresidents ofPast 50 Years On 15 Jul 01, at 23:22, BB wrote: He won ...Get over it. Steve, who was it that wrote the above, I forgot? Here's what I have to say to whomever it was: Man, if you would have been reading the posts regarding the FINAL FINDINGS regarding the FL ballot miscounting and theft that has appeared in the main stream media over the last several days, ... well, it is beyond me how anyone that has been on this list, AND READ THE STUFF POSTED ON IT, could even POSSIBLY have any doubt as to who REALLY WON! Can you read lips, Einstein? Here, let me speak louder, for the benefit of the hearing impaired: HE AND HIS DADDY'S SUPREME COURT JUSTICES STOLED THE FRIGGIN ELECTION, PLAIN AND SIMPLE! I mean, DUH! So does that mean we should not examine the President critically? Not even a Bush? Steve Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
[CTRL] Judge: Abortion Opponents Can March
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Monday July 16 4:58 PM ET Judge: Abortion Opponents Can March By ROXANA HEGEMAN, Associated Press Writer WICHITA, Kan. (AP) - A judge overruled the city Monday and said abortion opponents can hold marches this week outside the clinic of one of the few doctors in the nation to perform late-term abortions. The ruling came as hundreds of demonstrators, in town for a renewal of the Summer of Mercy anti-abortion protests that crippled Wichita a decade ago, took to the streets to demand an end to abortion. They read Bible verses over a loudspeaker as they marched through downtown with a police escort. Judge Thomas Marten ruled that the city improperly denied the demonstrators' group, Operation Save America, a parade permit for marches near the clinic of Dr. George Tiller. Tiller's clinic was bombed in 1985 and he was shot and wounded in 1993, two years after the first Summer of Mercy in Wichita. During those 1991 protests, anti-abortion demonstrators besieged Tiller's clinic. Marten said the group would be allowed to parade for one hour twice a day during this week's demonstrations. City officials said the group was denied a parade permit for safety reasons, but Marten said the move violated the demonstrators' First Amendment rights. The abortion opponents also challenged the constitutionality of a municipal court order imposing stiffer bail of $2,000 for nonresidents arrested at the clinic this week. But Marten ruled that the higher bail is not a problem since it applies to people on both sides of the abortion debate. In 1991, the first Summer of Mercy - led by firebrand Randall Terry and Operation Rescue - ended with 2,700 people arrested in more than 45 days of protests. The group has since distanced itself from Terry and calls itself Operation Save America. - *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The real Elaine Chao
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! The real Elaine Chao 'Walk Fire Enter Demon': Her interview with a Chinese newspaper -- -- Editor's note: In the early days of George W. Bush's presidency, while Attorney General-nominee John Ashcroft was battered and bruised in an ugly confirmation gauntlet, Elaine Chao sailed through the same process effortlessly to become labor secretary. This, despite in-depth reporting by WorldNetDaily.com revealing Chao's and her father's close personal ties to Chinese leader Jiang Zemin, as well as business ties to communist China. The following report is based on a 5-part series of stories published from July 3-7, 2000, in Sing Tao â one of Hong Kong's major newspapers, whose American version is one of the major Chinese-language papers in the U.S. The series was based on an in-depth interview with Elaine Chao by Sing Tao editor Li Ge. They were published on the paper's U.S. website. In that series, titled Washington Penetrating Inspection -- Exclusive Interview (or visit) with Chao Hsiao-lan (Elaine Chao's Chinese name) -- Li writes about having a conversation with Chao at a June 16, 2000, fund-raiser in Kentucky during last summer's presidential campaign. Chao's husband is Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell. The provocative answers Chao gave reveal just how closely Bush's labor secretary identifies with and supports the Chinese communist regime. By Timothy Gallaher © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com In early July of 2000, the Chinese language newspaper Sing Tao published a five-part feature on Elaine Chao, who has since become secretary of labor. The articles covered a number of issues including Chao's views on China and U.S.-China relations. Among her comments were that she in no way agrees with the Cox Report, that the U.S. media and Hollywood demonize China, that it is unfortunate the Republican Party has Christian and religious critics of China and that China should understand it is in a public relations war and should improve its PR by cultivating contacts with Congress and journalists. Chao also discussed differences between Democrat and Republican China policies. Chao stated that, if elected, G.W. Bush's China policies would be identical to the senior Bush's China policies and contended a new Bush administration would be advantageous to U.S.-China relations. She voiced her support for the Clinton administration's policies of constructive engagement and strategic partnership with China and criticized Clinton for not being able to see the policies through in the wake of the campaign-finance scandals and the Cox Report. The series of articles in the Chinese-language daily also covered Chao's views on a number of domestic issues and she spoke about her conservative political philosophy. Chao talked to the author, Li Ge (Mandarin pinyin transliteration) at length on a number of occasions, including at a Kentucky fundraiser for George Bush hosted by Chao and her husband, Sen. Mitch McConnell. This series in Sing Tao last year is noteworthy because it sheds light on some issues that were brought up when Chao was first nominated for labor secretary. After her nomination was announced, a number of news reports appeared in the Chinese- and English-language presses â led by reports in WorldNetDaily.com â that detailed her ties and friendships with high-level Chinese Communist Party members, including a family friendship with Jiang Zemin, China's president, whom she and her family have met various times in the U.S. and in Beijing. Also, in the wake of her nomination, her views on China-related issues were reported to some degree. But no article delved into her views and positions as deeply as the series of articles published over the week of July 3 to July 7, 2000, in the U.S. edition of Sing Tao. There has been little public comment about Chao's ties to the Chinese government, nor was the subject addressed at her confirmation hearing. The following comes from this series of articles by Li Ge in Sing Tao and presents Chao's views and opinions directly in her own words, translated to English here. Quotes below are direct quotes attributed to Chao in the original five-part series of last year. At a June 16, 2000, fundraiser in Kentucky, hosted by Chao and McConnell and attended by the Chao and Bush families and 400 others, Chao spoke with the author, Li. You know, former president Bush recently visited China [referring to an early March 2000 visit]. President Bush and China's highest-level leaders met face to face. He is a long time friend of China, said Chao. Chao told the reporter she didn't want to go into detail, but explained that President Bush is very much like a Chinese father. During the visit he expounded his son's views to the Chinese leaders. President Bush, Chao said, told the Chinese leadership that, concerning U.S.-China
[CTRL] Russia's friend China
-Caveat Lector- News reports of July 16 tell of a recently signed friendship pact between Russia and China. We are assured that it is not clear what this will mean for the United States. Well, the brilliant story writer might not be clear, but I'm pretty sure I could figure it out, and I don't think it means more business and repayments of past loans, grants, aid and investments for us from the friendly couple. The same report mentioned that a majority of Russia's weapons output goes directly to Red China. Just to remind, these appear to be the SAME RUSSIANS that just a short few years ago, assured us - along with the U.S. press, that they NEEDED our financial help, our food, our technology and our help in rebuilding their infrastructure, and they DESERVED it since they made the supreme sacrifice in abandoning communism and adopted democracy. They claimed we were their friends and BROTHERS, and were deserving of all of the aforementioned assistance. I wonder if the Chinese got the same pitch. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israeli Tanks Move Into Hebron
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Israeli Tanks Move Into Hebron By NASSER SHIYOUKHI, Associated Press Writer HEBRON, West Bank (AP) - Israeli tanks rolled into the Palestinian sector of Hebron early Monday and exchanged heavy fire with Palestinian gunmen in the deepest incursion since Israel withdrew from most of the city in 1997. The Israeli raid was triggered by Palestinian shooting attacks at Israeli army posts and a Jewish settlement near Hebron late Sunday. In the incursion, Israeli tanks wounded nine Palestinians, destroyed four Palestinian police posts in Hebron and one in a nearby village. Later Monday, an Israeli tank and four military vehicles entered Palestinian territory on the outskirts of the West Bank town of Tulkarem and fired three shells at a deserted Palestinian checkpoint, the witnesses said. The latest exchanges made it increasingly unlikely that a U.S.-backed truce, declared a month ago, will take hold. Fighting has been escalating in recent days. Tension was especially high ahead of Monday's opening of the Maccabiah Games, an Olympic-style event for Jewish athletes. Two Palestinians were killed in Jerusalem early Monday while trying to assemble a bomb near the stadium. The flare-up came despite an upbeat assessment by Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres after a meeting in Cairo, Egypt, on Sunday with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites), that the cease-fire could be made to stick. ``I'm leaving Cairo with the sense that there is hope,'' Peres said after talking with Arafat for more than an hour. The two Palestinians found dead Monday, about half a mile from Teddy Stadium in Jerusalem, site of the Maccabiah opening ceremony, were identified as Salem Derawi, 22, and Ibrahim Wahadneh, 19, supporters of Arafat's Fatah (news - web sites) movement. The two apparently were killed while a bomb they were preparing exploded prematurely. Jerusalem Police Chief Mickey Levy said police were investigating whether the stadium was the target of the bombers. Palestinian officials said they two were acting alone, not on behalf of Fatah. The opening ceremony of the Maccabiah Games was to be held at Teddy Stadium on Monday evening, in the presence of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites). More than 1,000 officers were to guard athletes and spectators at ceremony, police said. The events in and around Hebron began late Sunday night when Palestinian gunmen opened fire on Israeli army posts and the Jewish settlement of Beit Haggai from six different locations, Palestinian witnesses said. The Israeli army said Israeli commanders repeatedly asked the Palestinians to cease fire, and only then launched the raid. Israeli tanks rumbled into Palestinian-controlled areas of Hebron from three directions. Tanks destroyed four checkpoints manned by Force 17, a security service with special ties to Arafat. A fifth checkpoint was razed in the village of Dura, south of Hebron. During the Israeli incursion, Palestinians returned heavy fire, and the fighting lasted until about 4 a.m., when the Israelis withdrew. Israeli forces fired several tank shells, as well as tank-mounted machine guns. Nine Palestinians were wounded in the fighting. ``What happened last night was a very dangerous escalation of violence by the Israeli government,'' said Col. Awni Natsche, deputy commander of the Palestinian police in Hebron. ``It was all against our civilian people and this leads us to the conclusion that Israel believes only in force.'' Under previous peace accords, Israel withdrew from most of Hebron in January 1997, but retained control over the downtown area where 450 Jewish settlers live in several heavily fortified enclaves. Hebron is a flashpoint of violence, with frequent friction between settlers and Palestinian residents. In the past 10 months, Palestinian gunmen have persistently targeted the settlers' compounds. The settlers, in turn, have demanded that Israel retake Palestinian-controlled areas in the city. Last week, Israeli tanks moved briefly into the Palestinian part of Hebron after two Jewish settlers were killed in shooting ambushes near the city. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright
Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton
-Caveat Lector- At 06:24 PM 7/15/01 -0400, Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/11/2001 10:56:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My source is Prudy. She graciously conceded the point that Gore used the Willie Horton issue in his campaign against Dukakis. I can't recall doing this, and I'm not noted for being gracious. Prudy OK, then. In the grand Clintonian style, Prudy stubbornly, futilely, and ungraciously attempted to deny that Gore used the Willie Horton issue against Dukakis in the Presidential primary campaign, notwithstanding the fact that it is an established matter of record that he did so. DBC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ ! ! ! ] UPI: Screams heard before Chandra disappeared
-Caveat Lector- So much for Condit's platonic relationship with Chandra Levy - and yet people persist in this news items that he is so young for his age and oh so handsome - he is a little twerp, he is old and wrinkled and looks 20 years than his 53 - this may be done because (1) he has a 20 year old picture on his web site; or (2) he does not wawnt people to see the obvious difference in their ages . I am reminded of the initial story that really drew my attention when there was little or no interest in the little girl with the Rose Tattoo and I reproduce it once again - saba MAY 25, 2001 | current issue | back issues | subscribe | Poet's Cry Sears As Bereft Mom Keeps Up Hunt For Lost Intern By SEAMUS McGRAW FORWARD CORRESPONDENT Susan Levy keeps a volume of poetry in her Modesto, Calif. home. It's an old, tattered book filled with melancholy odes crafted nearly a century ago in Russia by her great-great-uncle, the legendary Hebrew poet Chaim Nachman Bialik, and handed down in her family through the generations. Revenge! Revenge! the poet once wrote. Cursed be he who cries revenge. Fit vengeance for the death of a child the devil has not yet conceived. Mrs. Levy takes little solace from the words of her kinsman. Not now, anyway. Not when the fate of her 23-year-old daughter, Chandra Ann Levy, a bright and driven young Washington intern who vanished late this past month after leaving a downtown health club there, remains a mystery. My happiest gift would be that she comes home safe, Mrs. Levy said. So far, D.C. Metro Police admit they have few clues to the young woman's disappearance, which has gripped the media with a swirl of allegations about her friendship with a congressman. Officially, she's still considered a missing person, said Sgt. Joseph Gentile, a police spokesman. There's no concrete evidence that there's been any kind of foul play, he said. Still, police, who are pursuing the case with the FBI and investigators for the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department in California, have combed her apartment looking for clues and scoured the banks of the nearby Potomac River with body-sniffing dogs. That has done little to ease her mother's anxiety. This isn't the kind of thing she would do, Mrs. Levy said Tuesday in a telephone interview from her home. Nor has the lack of solid evidence that a crime has been committed done anything to quell the media furor over the case, much of which has focused on allegations of a link between Ms. Levy and Rep. Gary Condit. Mr. Condit, a married, Harley-Davidson riding California Democrat who has described the young woman as a friend, has put up a $10,000 reward for information leading to her safe return. An additional $10,000 has been put up by California's two senators, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein. Another $15,000 has been offered by Ms. Levy's frantic parents. So far, neither the reward nor Mrs. Levy's pleas for her daughter's safe return on nationally broadcast television programs, including Larry King Live and NBC's Dateline, have turned up any solid leads. According to police reports, Ms. Levy, a University of Southern California graduate student who had spent last semester working as a paid intern fielding media calls at the Federal Bureau of Prisons, was last seen April 30 leaving the health club where she is a member. The young woman, who had at various times entertained thoughts of becoming a sports writer, an FBI agent, or maybe joining the CIA, according to her mother, was scheduled to return to California within a few days to attend her graduation ceremony. We spoke on the phone on April 27, Mrs. Levy said, adding that her daughter though uncertain about her future, and unsure whether she would return to Washington or seek work back home in California seemed to be in generally good spirits. At 10:45 a.m. Eastern Standard Time on May 1, Mrs. Levy received an e-mail from her daughter. It referred to flight schedules to California, and in it, Ms. Levy mused that she might consider taking a train cross-country instead, Mrs. Levy said. That was the last time she heard from her daughter. On May 5, Mrs. Levy and her husband, Dr. Robert Levy, contacted Washington police, who searched their daughter's DuPont Circle apartment, about a mile from the White House. Police found the young woman's bags packed. There was no sign of a struggle, authorities said. She had just vanished. But that, said Mrs. Levy, is unthinkable. Growing up, Ms. Levy was anything but the kind of flighty kid who would just disappear. As a teenager, she was smitten with the idea of entering law enforcement, and had served as a Police Explorer. Among her tasks as a 16-year-old was to knock on neighbors' doors to advise them to get their dogs licensed, Mrs. Levy said. She knocked on a lot of our Jewish friends' doors, she added. A stellar and focused student, the 5-foot-3-inch Ms. Levy received her undergraduate degree in journalism in just three years a
[CTRL] Klamath Falls Farmers Run Irrigation Line to Parched Canal
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Klamath Falls Farmers Run Irrigation Line to Parched Canal AP Farmers stand atop the headgate to upper Klamath Lake. Monday, July 16, 2001 About 100 farmers in Klamath Falls, Ore., used an irrigation pipe to route a flow of water around a closed canal head gate Sunday, replenishing a canal that has been parched since water was shut off last April to protect threatened and endangered fish. The farmers, who have been camping out at the canal head gate for the past few days, placed a pump in Upper Klamath Lake and ran the 200-yard-long pipe along a fence and into the canal on the other side of the gate, federal and county officials said. The farmers' Web site said the pipe was eight inches in diameter. Federal agents with the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation were monitoring the situation, but did not plan to arrest anyone, said Jeff McCracken, a Bureau spokesman. It remains peaceful and it remains the goal ... to do everything that we can to see that it stays peaceful, he said. McCracken estimated that farmers, who began operating the line around 2 p.m., were draining between five and 10 cubic feet of water per second from the lake. This is symbolic, he said. There's no way that amount of water could be used for the crops at this time of the year. Pat Foulk, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, said officers were at the scene to make sure the farmers did not violate the federal Endangered Species Act. She said there were no immediate plans to arrest any protesters because no fish were being sucked through the head gate and the lake's water level had not dropped. This is not a situation the agency had contemplated, she said. Certainly we have concern about the safety of the crowd and the officers on the scene. We do not put the Endangered Species Act above human health and safety. Last April, the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation was forced to cut off water to 90 percent of the land in the Klamath Project in favor of endangered sucker fish in Upper Klamath Lake and threatened coho salmon in the Klamath River. Since the water was shut off, farms with no other source of water have been forced to sell off cattle, let pastures and hay fields go brown and give up annual plantings of potatoes, grain and other crops. Angry groups have wrenched opened the head gates four times, most recently on Friday. Federal marshals took protesters by surprise early Saturday morning and shut the gates. The Bureau of Reclamation closed the head gate each time, citing the Endangered Species Act, which prohibits federal agencies from doing anything to jeopardize the survival of protected species. The federal action marks the first time that salmon fishermen and the Klamath Tribes, who once depended on the fish for food, have won out over farmers on water allocations since the irrigation system known as the Klamath Project opened in 1907. On Sunday, dozens of farmers continued to camp out along the irrigation canal. They had set up two awnings and installed portable toilets, lawn chairs and picnic supplies outside a chain link fence separating them from the canal. Farmers cheered, sang songs and played guitar to pass the time. It's proving a point that we care about our rights as Americans, said Doug Staff, a local farmer who said he would risk arrest to keep the water flowing. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send
Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted
-Caveat Lector- Follow the money: corporate funded Foundations provide grants to environmental groups / environmental researchers to political minions. Add into the mix the unquestioning breathless global warming reporting by the corporate media and you have an ongoing formulated plan. So who is paying for the anti-global warming propaganda? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Japan snubs U.S. in deal with Iran
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Japan snubs U.S. in deal with Iran Plans for huge oil field fly in face of ineffective sanctions -- -- Editor's note: In partnership with Stratfor, the global intelligence company, WorldNetDaily publishes daily updates on international affairs provided by the respected private research and analysis firm. Look for fresh updates each afternoon, Monday through Friday. In addition, WorldNetDaily invites you to consider STRATFOR membership, entitling you to a wealth of international intelligence reports usually available only to top executives, scholars, academic institutions and press agencies. © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Japan recently signed a letter of intent to develop a 26 billion barrel oil field in Iran, landing a fatal blow to the U.S. government's Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996. Favorable economic and political considerations will lead Washington to begin changing its policies toward Iran within the next few years. Japanese Trade Minister Takeo Hiranuma announced on June 8 his country will begin a $10 million seismic study on Iran's 26 billion barrel Azadegan oil field. The study will lead to enormous Japanese investment in Iran and sound the death knell for the U.S. government's Iran and Libya Sanctions Act. Japan is not affected by U.S. pressure,'' Hiranuma told reporters during a signing ceremony in Tehran, the Associated Press reported. Japan's decision, following similar violations of the act by Asian and European countries, did not bring about any retaliation from the U.S. government. The muted response indicates Washington realizes the sanctions have outlived their usefulness and are only harming U.S. interests. Following a brief renewal, the act, which seeks to penalize non-U.S. energy firms that invest more than $20 million in Iran's petroleum sector, will likely be ended after two years, allowing Washington to begin the process of normalizing ties with Iran and letting U.S. companies back into the country. The sanctions act, which former U.S. President Bill Clinton signed into law, came on top of a series of laws and executive orders barring U.S. firms from investing in Iran. The 1996 sanctions immediately drew criticism from every major economic power, all charging that the act couldn't be applied because it was intended to affect events beyond America's shores. As the years have passed, fear of U.S. retribution has slowly evaporated, leaving the sanctions act virtually without merit. The first major violation occurred in 1997, when France's Total, now TotalFinaElf, Malaysia's Petronas and Russia's Gazprom jumped into a $2 billion natural gas project. Italy's ENI just last week penned a $1 billion deal to develop Iran's Darkhovin oil field. Other companies are currently negotiating contracts or are involved in smaller deals. Washington has yet to enact sanctions on any company investing in Iran. Now Japan, one of America's closest allies, feels confident enough to go solo in developing the largest field in Iran. U.S. companies increasingly oppose the sanctions over losing a number of lucrative deals. Despite helping analyze the first round of seismic information from Azadegan â something that raised a number of eyebrows at the U.S. Treasury Department â Conoco is missing out on Azadegan's projected $100 billion in revenues, according to Bloomberg News. The act is even harming the investments of U.S. firms beyond Iran. ExxonMobil lost its bid to manage the massive Kashagan oil project in the Caspian Sea because the sanctions prevented an Iranian export route, the most economically viable option. Therefore, ExxonMobil has undertaken a furious lobbying effort to convince the Bush administration to end the sanctions act. U.S. firms would also love to delve into Iran's natural gas deposits, the most lucrative of which is the 8 trillion cubic meter South Pars field. All told, Iran holds 9 percent of the world's oil and 15 percent of its natural gas. There are political as well as economic reasons to re-engage Iran. Despite moves toward smart sanctions that would allow more civilian goods into Iraq, Washington is seeking tighter controls on arms and military transfers to Baghdad. Iran, being the largest regional power, is the logical partner to help contain Iraq. Despite the reasons in favor of lifting the sanctions, such an action is not likely in the short term. Domestic anger with Iran continues over the 1979 embassy seizure and the regime's support of the Hezbollah terrorist group. And U.S. special interests such as the Israeli lobby and isolationist politicians such as Sen. Jesse Helms continue to maintain that the Iran-Libya sanctions act is the bedrock of American foreign policy in the Middle East. Despite the opposition, all of the international economic and political factors argue for the
[CTRL] Fwd: RRoyal Institute of International Affairs' alleged secret paper (1960').
~Amelia~ Full control of the drug-trade must be completed in order that the government of all countries who are under our jurisdiction will have a monopoly which we will control through supply. . . .Drug bars will take care of the unruly and the discontent, would be revolutionaries will be turned into harmless addicts with no will of their own. - Royal Institute of International Affairs' alleged secret paper (1960').
[CTRL] fresnobee.com | Condit's backers dismiss rumors
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fresnobee.com/localnews/story/0,1724,268195,00.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing Capt. G. Russell Evans, Captain, U.S. Coast Guard (Ret.) Sunday, July 15, 2001 Fortunately, Senate naysayers and media nitpickers are not going to have the last word, after all, on a National Missile Defense (NMD). The people will, and the doomsday prophets had better get used to it. People are waking up to our vulnerability to rogue nations with missile capability and a grudge against Uncle Sam â plus a rapidly arming Communist China and some 31 other nations â all with missiles and all with potential for an accidental or grudge launching. No Protection So, what's our protection? Since the 1972 ABM Treaty, it's been mutual assured destruction (MAD) â also known as revenge. Nuclear proliferation today, however, far exceeds the MAD solution of Robert McNamara 29 years ago. Therefore, in revenge for a Chinese nuclear bomb in downtown Los Angeles, we hit Tiananmen Square â with millions of victims all around and total devastation for years to come. And that's just two missiles with dozens more on the way â annihilation beyond description. Support for NMD is increasing, with President Bush leading the way. Senator Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and former Senator Sam Nunn, D-Ga., propose a solution to replace the obsolete 1972 ABM Treaty that will assure Russia's sovereign dignity, cut its missile stock in half, and also cut the U.S. missile arsenal in half. Saving Face, Too Russia would save face. U.S. taxpayers would finance the Lugar-Nunn plan, but save money in the long run with reduced maintenance costs for the U.S. missiles â money that could help pay for development of the NMD. Paying Russia's bill for nuclear de-escalation is a carrot-and-stick deal. The time to act on this dramatic move is now, says retired four-star Army General Barry R. McCaffrey, veteran political-military expert. Consultation on the Lugar-Nunn plan with NATO allies and, then, the Russians could do the following: Replace the controversial 1972 ABM Treaty and thereby remove one of the main arguments against the U.S. NMD system. Assure the Russians that no likely U.S. NMD within the next 20 years can protect against Russia's ICBMs. Observe restrictions of the 1972 ABM Treaty against testing and analyzing sea-based, air-borne and space-based ABM systems. If negotiations fail, the United States should go it alone and design a system that protects against 21st century threats. For example: The Chinese threat. China is expanding its ICBM capability with some 50 3-megaton warheads annually, thanks to espionage and Clinton-Gore waivers to sell U.S. missile technology in exchange for campaign donations. A tenfold increase is in the works for China, including ballistic missile submarines with multi-warheads and the new DF31 and DF41 solid fuel mobile rockets. This Chinese expansion precedes any possible U.S. NMD. Now is also the time for serious diplomatic consultations to reduce the Chinese missile threat. Rogue nations threat. The nuclear missile threat from rogue nations is, in some respects, equally as dangerous as the Chinese and Russian threats because of the following real-life situations: North Korea had a 900-mile missile in 1993. In 1998, it had a Taepo-Dong missile that, within a few years, will be able to hit Washington with a nuclear warhead. Iraq now has 900-mile missile capability and, within 10 years, could have ICBM capability. Iran has a solid-fuel missile with a 600-mile range â and growing. Libya has 50 North Korean No Dong missiles capable of hitting Europe with nerve gas and biological agents within 10 years. These threats are out there right now and no one is defending against them. Opponents say NMD can't be done and besides, it costs too much. So, what is the value of 10 million lives â wherever located? 'Clunky Monkey' Ben Cohen, President of Business Leaders for Sensible Priorities, says the Star Wars concept is a clunky monkey that won't work and that money should go to education, health care and meals for the elderly. Is Mr. Cohen's priority corporate profits? He's a Vermonter. One nuclear blast to the middle of Vermont could change his mind. A January poll by the respected McLaughlin Associates has overwhelming support for missile defense, as follows: 72 percent of women; 68 percent of men; 80 percent of Republicans; 67 percent of Democrats; 70 percent of blacks; and 58 percent of liberals. General McCaffrey says: There is no question that within 15 years, a U.S.-European-Russian-Japanese science-engineering coalition will have the required technology to create a multi-layered missile defense and an integrated, sea-based Theater Ballistic Missile Defense (TBMD). ... We cannot accept open skies and pieces of paper as our sole safeguards against accidental launch or rogue state threat of attack. Missile defense is going to happen. It will be
[CTRL] Evaporating surplus shows Bush lied
-Caveat Lector- Dave Zweifel: Evaporating surplus shows Bush lied By Dave Zweifel July 16, 2001 I hate to be an I-told-you so. In fact, I wish I had been wrong. But the news is already starting to dribble in ... our federal government's big surplus is rapidly going away. It's going away because George W. Bush lied to us so he could get that huge tax cut for his big campaign contributors through Congress before anyone woke up to see the truth. Oh, there were warnings from some quarters. And the polls even showed that the American people didn't want the tax cut. Most of it was going to the big shots anyhow. But the administration insisted there was enough money for a $1.3 trillion tax cut and there would still be enough left over for things that needed fixing - like Social Security and Medicare - and even some left to help pay down the $4 trillion debt that we still owe. As I said here, that was poppycock. All one had to do was look at Wisconsin. Two years ago our brilliant legislators decided to give us $700 million back in the form of $200 to $300 checks. Now we haven't enough money to help poor senior citizens with their prescriptions drugs or to reduce the long lines of people waiting for help so they don't have to go to nursing homes. Economist Paul Krugman, writing in the New York Times last week, accused the Bush administration of lying about the surplus. Isn't it strange, he asked, that the bad news about the country's revenue came to light only after the tax cut had safely passed Congress? Forget about those budget surpluses as far as the eye can see; from now on the prospect is for chronic budget shortfalls, he said. Suddenly, there isn't money to help shore up Social Security so it's in shape to handle the baby boomers as they come through the system during the next few years. There's no money to add prescription drug coverage to Medicare. The truth is that moderates who voted for that tax cut were snookered, Krugman added. But isn't that really what the George W. Bush Republicans wanted all along? All this business about fixing Social Security and Medicare was bunk in the first place. What better way to get rid of - or, at least, drastically change - two programs that GOP stalwarts have hated since the days of Franklin D. Roosevelt than let them flounder in financial uncertainty. The Republican Party made a big deal last election about integrity in the White House. Frankly, I'd much rather have a president who lies to me about sex with an intern than one who lies about issues that affect the future of the country and the well-being of its people. Published: 6:43 AM 7/16/01 ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DetroitNews: The Graduation Gap: Colleges' retention of blacks dis...
-Caveat Lector- At 09:06 PM 7/16/2001 -0400, you wrote: The fact of the matter is that most of these blacks simply don't possess the natural intelligence requred for college, There is no natural intelligence required for college over and above the ability to metabolise without assistance. Some of the dumbest, most ignorant people I have ever met, have college degrees. George W Bush has a college degree, for God's sake. Get a grip. and all this affirmative action nonsense is a modern-day attempt to make the proverbial silk purse out of the proverbial sow's ear. Of course, since this theory violates political correctness, it's naturally not mentioned in the article. Evan Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: + 27 11 792 2777 Fax: +27 11 792 2711 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years
-Caveat Lector- On 16 Jul 01, at 23:39, BB wrote: You're so ignorant that you cannot see that the same agenda which would have been followed by ag is now being followed by the inheritor of the father's Supreme Court, gwb. Gore would not be in bed with the oil industry to the degree with Bush/Cheney. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Radio Islam: ADL - Portrait of a Hate Group
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Radio Islam: ADL - Portrait of a Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- Saba, Do you hate Jews? Just wondering. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Naval Strike Launched by Pacifica Resistance
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:!b_a_Act: Naval Strike Launched by Pacifica Resistance To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: July 15, 2001 CONTACT: Mark Sanborne. 212-803-8231 Sound archived at: http://www.flashpoints.net/ PACIFICA RESISTANCE MOVEMENT LAUNCHES NAVAL STRIKE AGAINST RENEGADE PNB MEMBER KEN FORD Homebuilders Booze Cruise Gets That Sinking Feeling New York: Giving a whole new meaning to the phrase pirate radio, on Friday, July 13, an ad-hoc maritime unit of the Pacifica/WBAI resistance movement launched a twilight seaborne protest action against Ken Ford, vice chair of the Pacifica National Board (PNB) and senior officer of the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB). The activists took to the waters of New York Harbor to race alongside a party boat chartered by local NAHB affiliates and loudly announce their demand that Ford resign from the PNB and cease his efforts to destroy the country's only listener-supported, corporate-free national broadcast network, Pacifica Radio, and its New York station, WBAI/99.5 FM. Acting on intelligence that a booze cruise organized by the Builders Association of New Jersey and the Community Builders Association (both NAHB affiliates) would be departing from Weehawken, N.J., Friday evening on an excursion around lower Manhattan, a Pacifica resistance activist - call him Ishmael - organized a last-minute, water-borne action. Interested parties gathered on Pier 63 at West 23rd Street to enlist, but not all could fit in the craft that had been volunteered for the mission. In the end, 10 hardy activists crowded aboard the 26-foot boat along with its crew of three (who shall remain nameless - and who, in keeping with their radical bent, refused any payment for the job). The nondescript vessel gave every appearance of being a putt-putt working boat, but as soon as it got out on the open water, its unsuspected 200-horse power engines kicked in, and its passengers had to crouch down below the gunwales to prevent being tossed overboard as the boat accelerated and commenced bouncing across the waves like a Greenpeace Zodiac racing toward a rendezvous with an illegal whaling ship. Though the party boat had a major head start, the speedy pursuit craft caught up with the revelers as they reached the bottom of Manhattan. At approximately 7:53 p.m., as the activists pulled alongside their quarry, they unfurled banners, raised signs, and began chanting Get Ken Ford Off Pacifica's Board! amid the steady beat of a drum and the shaking of noisemakers. Booming through a loudspeaker, Ishmael explained to the befuddled homebuilders why the protesters were demanding that Ford resign from the PNB and cease sabotaging Pacifica Radio's historic, progressive mission as the voice of the voiceless. Ishmael pointed out the irony that even as he spoke, they were approaching 120 Wall Street, the location of besieged WBAI. Some of the bemused partygoers on the two-story cruise ship responded with rude gestures, while others actually applauded this entertaining interruption of their alcohol-fueled, three-hour tour. Meanwhile, in response to a radioed request from the homebuilder ship's captain, another double-decker party boat traveling in the opposite direction veered dangerously close to the protesters, blowing its horn and attempting to squeeze and scare off the activists. It was to no avail. The raucous protest continued for nearly 25 minutes as the pursuit craft shadowed its prey past the Brooklyn and Manhattan bridges. Starting at 8:00 p.m., the action was broadcast live via cell phone for 13 minutes over KPFA, Pacifica's flagship Berkeley, Calif., station, with Ishmael at one point passing the phone to another senior member of the ad-hoc maritime unit, who gave her on-air analysis of the background behind the action. That was followed by a hook-up to WBIX (WBAI in Exile), an Internet-based global gathering of audio refugees working to keep the spirit of the old WBAI alive. After the successful action, and amid a glorious sunset, the unit returned to a hero's welcome at Pier 63, which it turns out is definitely sympathetic territory for those fighting for genuine, free-speech community radio. BACKROUND: Ken Ford, vice chair of the Pacifica National Board, has overstayed his legal term on the PNB and is named in four separate lawsuits, including one backed by the California attorney general. During his tenure, he has overseen union-busting, censorship, lockouts, large-scale firings and bannings, and race-baiting. When listeners complained, he threatened to turn them over to the FBI. As a senior member of the National Association
[CTRL] URGENT, Reject Anti-Environmental Nomination.
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 05:23:09 -0500 From: Humanity [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:!b_a_Act: URGENT, Reject Anti-Environmental Nomination. To: The People who care [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URGENT , REJECT Bush anti-environmental, pro-industry nominee John Graham. Deadline July 17 , 2001 LAST CHANCE! Urge your senators to reject Bush nominee John Graham President Bush's nominee to fill a pivotal administration position has a long record that's pro-industry and anti-environment, anti-consumer, and anti-health protection. Senate will likely vote on whether to confirm Bush nominee John Graham for an obscure but extremely influential government position -- Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), within the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). In this role, Graham would serve as the nation's regulatory gatekeeper, within the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). In this role, Graham would serve as the nation's regulatory gatekeeper, passing judgment over all major national health, safety, and environmental standards. Over the past decade, Graham has been an ally of the business community and played a leading role opposing strong government safeguards. If confirmed, Graham would have the power to accomplish much of his agenda to roll back vital public health, workplace and environmental protections. The confirmation vote could happen as early as next Tuesday, July 17. Please contact Senators and urge them to oppose John Graham's confirmation! HOW YOU CAN HELP : 1: Please simply send a free fax to your Senators by clicking here : http://www.citizen.org/faxserver/letter2/step1.htm ( For more information about the John Graham Nomination, click here: http://www.citizen.org/congress/regulations/graham.html ) 2: Send an Email to all of U.S. Senators to OPPOSE the NOMINATION: SAMPLE LETTER : SUBJECT : Please OPPOSE Dr. John Graham nomination as the Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs(OIRA) Dear Senator, I strongly oppose the nomination of Dr. John D. Graham to direct the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Office of Management and Budget. This position plays an extremely powerful role in establishing regulatory safeguards for every agency of our government, and Dr. Graham possesses a consistent anti-regulatory record of discounting risks of pollutants and applying controversial methods based on disputable assumptions without fully considering the risks and benefits to public health and the environment. Furthermore, Dr. Graham's work at the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis has been funded by major industries who oppose regulations protecting public health and the environment and who have directly benefited from Dr. Graham's studies, making it difficult to imagine how Dr. Graham could effectively fulfill his responsibilities free from conflicts of interests and with the public view in mind. Again, I urge you to vote 'No' on John Graham's nomination to this critical administration position. Sincerely, Your Name, Your Addres, City, State, Zip, U.S. Constituents. ( letter ends here *) CONTACT INFORMATION for the above Sample letter : Please Copy and Paste the following list into BCC field in your Email. Then put your own email address or your other address in the TO field before you hit Send. note: it must have a comma between addresses. BE CAREFUL before you hit SEND, please check everything correctly ! BE POLITE ! Please address to : Dear Senator , or : Dear Honorable Senator, Remember, put your name , address and U.S. Constituent at the end of the letter (email). [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL
[CTRL] Special report: global warming
-Caveat Lector- --- Senior Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: story lead from Victor Rocha...thanks! www.pechanga.net Greenhouse melts Alaska's tribal ways http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/globalwarming/story/0,7369,522255,00.html As climate talks get under way in Bonn today, some Americans are ruing the warming their president chooses to ignore Special report: global warming http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalwarming Duncan Campbell in Arctic Village Monday July 16, 2001 The Guardian As a girl, Sarah James and her seven brothers and sisters learned how to snare beaver and rabbits and how to fish for grayling in the wilderness around Arctic Village, a tiny settlement of 150 Native Alaskans inside the Arctic Circle. Her brothers and her father hunted caribou and moose, her mother tanned the hides and sewed the fur, and their way of life seemed to reflect the name of their tribe: Gwich'in, the Land Where Life Began. Now that feeling of lyrical permanence is over. We used to have four healthy seasons, but all that is off-balance now, Sarah James, now 56, said. The treeline has changed, the lakes have dried up. Global warming is very real up here. The experience of Sarah James and her family will have particular resonance today when a last-ditch attempt to salvage international efforts to combat global warming begins at the climate change talks in Bonn. The talks have been cast into the gloom by the decision of the United States, the world's biggest producer of greenhouse gases, to pull out of the Kyoto protocol. In rejecting the protocol, an agreement to reduce greenhouse gas emissions globally by 5.2% from the 1990 level by 2008-12, George Bush said: I will not accept an accord which will harm our economy and hurt American workers. Sarah James is an American worker. She believes that those who live in the northernmost US state are already experiencing the economic hardship that Mr Bush fears. And yet the cause of her suffering is not the Kyoto protocol, but quite the reverse: the global warming it is designed to curb. Since the late 19th-century Arctic Village has been the focal point of of the Gwich'in, who comprise 7,000 people spread over 15 villages, still speaking their own language and living in the traditional way by hunting caribou, moose and duck and fishing in the lakes and streams for pike and grayling. The village is reachable only by a 90-minute flight from Fairbanks, and experiences the extremes of summer, when itdarkens, and a bitter winter, when it can be light for only three hours in the day. It straddles two worlds: there is satellite television and access to the internet in the tribal council office, but no running water or inside lavatories. It has its own post office with the American flag flying beside it, but its traditions owe more to Native Alaskan ways, which many in the village now see as threatened by President Bush's professed desire to drill for oil in the Arctic Refuge to the immediate north. A more immediate threat comes from the effects of climate changes, which are more apparent here than anywhere else in the US. So great are the local fears that they called a tribal gathering last month, the first for 13 years. During it they blessed the new solar panels on the roof of their washeteria, where they do their laundry and take their showers. The panels provide energy in summer, and are a reminder that there are renewable forms of energy that the world has barely exploited. But it is the rise in winter temperatures that the older people in the village have noticed most. It used to always be 60 below [-51C] in the winter, but we don't get that any more, said Kias Peter, at 72 an experienced hunter and one of the village elders. We have lost 13 lakes around here. Calvin Tritt, 50, a former Gwich'in chief, who served in the marines, lives out towards the tiny airstrip. In spring we used to fish for grayling through the ice and get piles of them. Last week there were only two. When I was young the caribou had about two inches of fat on them, now they're scrawny and they're going loco. He has little time for President Bush, and said it was difficult to persuade the government to study the many changes he believes are affecting the health of the villagers. The white man thinks we're like little children. Unlike many isolated rural villages, Arctic Village has managed to retain its young people. About 60 children attend the timbered elementary and secondary schools, and many of the younger adults - the new chief, Evon David, is 25 - have become involved in what they see as a fight to preserve the village against the changes global warming has already brought.. Faith Gemmill, a young woman, who works for the Gwich'in steering committee, said: Our people noticed changes about five years ago. Now our creeks, our lakes and rivers are drying up. All my life, when we
Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMEN AMEN!!! Sure feels like 'global warming' here in DC. 59 degrees at night, days in the 70s, no humidity. TOTALLY UNLIKE the typical DC July. Just to clarify matters, my post neither supports or seeks to negate arguments pro or con for global warming or global cooling... What I was trying to point out is that the argument for either case can be as factual or otherwise as the opposing argument...proponents of either argument have any number of supposedly verified scientific studies which they trot out to 'prove' their case...how can both be right? The issue is really one of who exactly is manipulating the issue? Cui bono? BTW, it is a common fallacy to think that global warming will mean that we all suddenly start experiencing tropical weather; in global warming, some areas will indeed experience abnormal COLD, as weather patterns are changed... June Thank you. This is the salient point of the discussion. Global Warming means climate change. Climate change is the issue. It means that the more or less steady state of the interglacial warm period is over and food supplies, as well as everything else relating to weather is no longer reliably consistent. Whether it gets hotter or colder is not the point right now. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:16:26 +1200 From: Misty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO To: IUFO [EMAIL PROTECTED], AltWritersFiles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Armageddon or New Age? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bret Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO http://www.abovetopsecret.com/dulce.html THE FOLLOWING MATERIAL COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE DULCE (UNDERGROUND) BASE EXISTS. THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THE LABS; ABDUCTEES TAKEN TO THE BASE; PEOPLE WHO ASSISTED IN THE CONSTRUCTION; INTELLIGENCE PERSONAL (NSA,CIA,FBI etc.) AND UFO / INNER-EARTH RESEARCHERS. Located almost two miles beneath Archuleta Mesa on the Jicarilla Apache Indian Reservation near Dulce, New Mexico is an installation classified so secret, its existence is one of the least known in the world. Here is Earth's first and main joint United States Government/alien biogenetics laboratory. Others exist in Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona. The multi-level facility at Dulce goes down for at least seven known levels, and is reported to have a central HUB which is controlled by base security. The level of security required to access different sections rises as one goes further down the facility. There are over 3000 real-time video cameras throughout the complex at high-security locations (entrances and exits). There are over 100 secret exits near and around Dulce. Many around Archuleta Mesa, others to the south around Dulce Lake and even as far east as Lindrith. Deep sections of the complex connect into natural cavern systems. The Grey Species Most of the aliens reside on sub-levels 5, 6, and 7 with alien housing on level 5. The alien species which control the majority of the complex are the Greys, a devious race, now considered an enemy of the New World Order. In the Fifties, the Greys began taking large numbers of humans for experiments. By the Sixties, the rate was speeded up and they began getting careless and self-involved. By the Seventies, their true intentions became very obvious, but the Special Group of the Government still kept covering up for them. By the Eighties, the Government realized there was no defense against the Greys. So, programs were enacted to prepare the public for open contact with non-human ET beings. Perhaps a possible ally, the Reptoids are an enemy species of the Greys, and their relationship is in a state of tension. The Greys only known enemy is the Reptillian Race, and they are on their way to Earth. A man named Thomas C., famous for stealing the so-called Dulce Papers, says that there are over 18,000 short greys at the Dulce facility. He also has stated how a colleague of his had come face-to-face with a 6-foot tall Reptoid which had materialised in his house. The Reptoid showed a great interest in research maps of New Mexico and Colorado which were on the wall. The maps were full of colored push-pins and markers to indicate sites of animal mutilations, caverns, locations of high UFO activity, repeated flight paths, abduction sites, ancient ruins, and suspected alien underground bases. Some forces in the Government want the public to be aware of what is happening. Other forces (The Collaborators) want to continue making whatever deals are necessary for an Elite few to survive the conflicts. Cloning Humans (by Humans) for Slave Hybrids The Secret Government cloned humans by a process perfected in the world's largest and most advanced bio-genetic research facility, Los Alamos. The elite humans now have their own disposable slave-race. Like the alien Greys, the US Government secretly impregnated females, then removed the hybrid fetus after a three month time period, before accelerating their growth in laboratories. Biogenetic (DNA Manipulation) programming is then instilled - they are implanted and controlled at a distance through RF (Radio Frequency) transmissions. Many Humans are also being implanted with brain tranceivers. These act as telepathic communication channels and telemetric brain manipulation devices. This network was developed and initiated by DARPA. Two of the procedures were RHIC (Radio-Hypnotic Intercerebral Control) and EDOM (Electronic Dissolution of Memory). They also developed ELF and EM wave propagation equipment which affect the nerves and can cause nausea, fatigue, irritability, even death. This research into biodynamic relationships within organisms has produced a technology that can change the genetic structure and heal. Overt and Covert Research U.S. Energy Secretary John Herrington named the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory and New Mexico's Los Alamos National Laboratory to house new advanced genetic research centers as part of a project to decipher the human genome. The genome holds the genetically coded instructions that guide the
Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted
-Caveat Lector- The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H.L. Mencken A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gays/NAMBLA/Erotica
-Caveat Lector- Adult Entertainment Event Attracts Conservatives, Too Los Angeles, Calif. (CNSNews.com) - Erotica-LA, a three-day event at the Los Angeles Convention Center, is billed as an attempt to bridge the chasm between the adult industry and mainstream America. For three days, more than one hundred vendors will sell every type of adult product imaginable, from videos to sexual aides to clothing. I guess we can assume that Gary Condit won't be attending this year... ;-) June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (low-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Radio (high-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Support for Klamath Farmers Grows
-Caveat Lector- quick question why are the words endangered and threatened in quotes here? the implication is that they are not endangered... how is this so? -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:59:55 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Support for Klamath Farmers Grows (fwd) An on-line petition drive to support the farmers of Oregon's Klamath Basin in their battle to regain water rights that the federal government stripped away in order to protect endangered and threatened species of fish, now has more than 3,700 signatures. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Support for Klamath Farmers Grows
-Caveat Lector- oops I forgot this point - so god doesn't care about fish? -- --- - Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it Elwood P Dowd NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:59:55 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Support for Klamath Farmers Grows (fwd) which urges immediate action to reverse a decision that the group claims interferes with [the farmers'] God-given rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israeli Tanks Move Into Hebron
-Caveat Lector- I love this slant why isn't the headline Palestinians open fire in Israeli settlement and army post or Palestinians killed while attempting to bomb peaceful sports rally ??? did the Palestinian shooters hit anyone in the settlement? I don't know, as usual there is only a body count on one side. -- Doubt. Doubt thyself. Doubt even if thou doubtest thyself. Doubt all. Doubt even if thou doubtest all. It seems sometimes as if beneath all conscious doubt there lay some deepest certainty. O kill it! Slay the snake! The horn of the Doubt-Goat be exalted Dive deeper, ever deeper, into the Abyss of Mind, until thou unearth the fox THAT. On, hounds! Yoicks! Tally-ho! Bring THAT to bay! Then, wind the Mort! Uncle Al. the kiddies pal NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:02:28 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Israeli Tanks Move Into Hebron -Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Israeli Tanks Move Into Hebron By NASSER SHIYOUKHI, Associated Press Writer HEBRON, West Bank (AP) - Israeli tanks rolled into the Palestinian sector of Hebron early Monday and exchanged heavy fire with Palestinian gunmen in the deepest incursion since Israel withdrew from most of the city in 1997. The Israeli raid was triggered by Palestinian shooting attacks at Israeli army posts and a Jewish settlement near Hebron late Sunday. In the incursion, Israeli tanks wounded nine Palestinians, destroyed four Palestinian police posts in Hebron and one in a nearby village. Later Monday, an Israeli tank and four military vehicles entered Palestinian territory on the outskirts of the West Bank town of Tulkarem and fired three shells at a deserted Palestinian checkpoint, the witnesses said. The latest exchanges made it increasingly unlikely that a U.S.-backed truce, declared a month ago, will take hold. Fighting has been escalating in recent days. Tension was especially high ahead of Monday's opening of the Maccabiah Games, an Olympic-style event for Jewish athletes. Two Palestinians were killed in Jerusalem early Monday while trying to assemble a bomb near the stadium. The flare-up came despite an upbeat assessment by Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres after a meeting in Cairo, Egypt, on Sunday with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites), that the cease-fire could be made to stick. ``I'm leaving Cairo with the sense that there is hope,'' Peres said after talking with Arafat for more than an hour. The two Palestinians found dead Monday, about half a mile from Teddy Stadium in Jerusalem, site of the Maccabiah opening ceremony, were identified as Salem Derawi, 22, and Ibrahim Wahadneh, 19, supporters of Arafat's Fatah (news - web sites) movement. The two apparently were killed while a bomb they were preparing exploded prematurely. Jerusalem Police Chief Mickey Levy said police were investigating whether the stadium was the target of the bombers. Palestinian officials said they two were acting alone, not on behalf of Fatah. The opening ceremony of the Maccabiah Games was to be held at Teddy Stadium on Monday evening, in the presence of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites). More than 1,000 officers were to guard athletes and spectators at ceremony, police said. The events in and around Hebron began late Sunday night when Palestinian gunmen opened fire on Israeli army posts and the Jewish settlement of Beit Haggai from six different locations, Palestinian witnesses said. The Israeli army said Israeli commanders repeatedly asked the Palestinians to cease fire, and only then launched the raid. Israeli tanks rumbled into Palestinian-controlled areas of Hebron from three directions. Tanks destroyed four checkpoints manned by Force 17, a security service with special ties to Arafat. A fifth checkpoint was razed in the village of Dura, south of Hebron. During the Israeli incursion, Palestinians returned heavy fire, and the fighting lasted until about 4 a.m., when the Israelis withdrew. Israeli forces fired several tank shells, as well as tank-mounted machine guns. Nine Palestinians were wounded in the fighting. ``What happened last night was a very dangerous escalation of violence by the Israeli government,'' said Col. Awni Natsche, deputy commander of the Palestinian police in Hebron. ``It was all against our civilian people and this leads us to the conclusion that Israel believes only in force.'' Under previous peace accords, Israel withdrew from most of Hebron in January 1997, but retained control over the downtown area where 450 Jewish settlers live in several heavily fortified enclaves. Hebron is a flashpoint of
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Condit Is Conservative by Day, Liberal at Night
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba muddled: Find this item interesting - Condit lives in this Bohemian Adams Morgan District and little Chandra had out her map on TV of this Klingle Mansion She didn't have any map out on her TV, she used MapQuest on her PC...and the Klingle Mansion was only one of many areas she apparently checked out... That's presuming that it was actually Levy at the computer that morning and not a computer-savvy perp who knew how to throw authorities off the scent by deliberately laying down false cybertracks... Could it be a meeting was to take place; Chandra is alleged to have visited that guy's apartment, but when - maybe that night? According to the police, Levy's MapQuest query of the Klingle Mansion in nearby Rock Creek Park (the Mansion, used as park headquarters but closed that day) occurred at approximately 12:30 pm, shortly before she allegedly signed off... Two other interesting, and perhaps relevant points: according to Condit's schedule, he had an hour lunch at the White House starting at 11:30...he then had a meeting with Dick Cheney scheduled at 1pm, the length of which is not specified, but which probably didn't last longer than half an hour...we are told that he next returned to his office at 3pn, which leaves a gap of about an hour and a half in his schedule during midday... If Levy left her apartment between 1 and 1:30 pm that day, the young woman (who has been described as a fitness buff), could have either jogged or walked briskly to the vacinity of the Klingle mansion and been there between 1:30 and 2pm -- the very same time that Condit has a gap in his schedule for that day... The second interesting and perhaps relevant point is that that area of Rock Creek Park, the vacinity around the Klingle Mansion, is apparently a well-known gay hangout and gay pickup place...with the recent revelations regarding Condit, it is reasonable to presume that he was at least aware of this area of the park, if not well-acquainted with it. So his is one item re this location and then an interesting item re Klingle Mansion area where Chandra took the time to target on her computer? Again, this is presuming that it was Levy actually on the computer at that time...if it was, and if she went to the area of Klingle Mansion shortly afterwards, one has to answer the question as to why she only brought her keys and not her purse... If she was already abducted (perhaps around 4:30 that morning, when a resident of Levy's building called the police reporting hearing a woman scream), then it had to be the perp (or one of the perps) on Levy's computer later that morning, probably intending on leaving a cybertrail to throw the authorities off (mainly to be able to establish an alibi for the hours in question)... Perhaps not all of the MapQuest inquiries were spurious...perhaps the person sitting at Levy's computer at midday on 5/1 had been told by someone -- presumably Condit himself -- After you do what you have to do, meet me in the park by the mansion at approximately 2 pm so that we can discuss the next step...so perhaps the query to MapQuest was to actually get directions, but that would then imply the querant was unfamiliar with the area -- an unlikely possibility if the perp was this supposed gay black Hatian biker... Of course another possibility is that Levy staged this whole thing to get back at Condit...she could have delibertely screamed at 4:30am, and have done the MapQuest search later that day to lay down her own false cybertracks...and presumably aware of Condit's sexual tastes, the MapQuest query on the Klingle Mansion could have been an attempt to point attention to Condit's homosexual activities... A source close to the congressman says health problems kept her at home, although Condit frequently flies to see her on weekends. Again, according to other sources, Carolyn Condit is a hale and hearty woman; she did have a bout of encephalitis as a child which seemingly has not greatly affected her as an adult. I suspect this 'sick wife' story was something Gary Condit cooked up to explain to the D.C. crowd why his wife stayed back in California and didn't come to D.C. with him...I suspect Mrs. Condit stayed behind at Condit's own suggestion... The 'sick wife' story probably helped him with women...garnered sympathy and helped convince them to go to bed with this guy, and was a convenient excuse when these chippies started pressuring him to divorce his wife and marry them: Oh no! I couldn't possibly divorce my wife! She's very ill and it would look bad, and be political suicide for my career! If he laid on the sick wife story thick enough, he probably had most of his affairs believing that his wife was on death's doorstep and that it was only a matter of time before she died and he'd be 'free'... Because of this maverick role, MSNBC named Condit one of the eight top Democratic Power Brokers. He's a good congressman, said California
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...
-Caveat Lector- just a quick note here george w bush was appointed, and not elected now back to your regularly scheduled babble Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: BB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 23:08:16 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ... And are you going to whine for that same very long, long time? Is this the first time in history that a President was elected by a majority of the electoral vote, but not the popular? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton
-Caveat Lector- DBC - don't quit your day job. You have no future as a researcher or as an expert in political debate. Samantha In a message dated 7/17/01 1:37:29 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, then. In the grand Clintonian style, Prudy stubbornly, futilely, and ungraciously attempted to deny that Gore used the Willie Horton issue against Dukakis in the Presidential primary campaign, notwithstanding the fact that it is an established matter of record that he did so. DBC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...
-Caveat Lector- thew just a quick note here george w bush was appointed, and not elected MJ Only some Religious Myrmidons chant such absurdity. Regard$, --MJ If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -- Anatole France A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Occult Origins of Power
-Caveat Lector- Robert Laugherty has written an intriguing short novel, somewhat in the manner of C.S. Lewis's Screwtape Letters and Gurdjieff's Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, namely as a series of talks from an aging archon of the financial elite and his advisors to the young man being groomed to take over his position at the peak of the pyramid of power. Heres a partial distillation, and the Full Monty can be found at: http://www.freedomdomain.com/neworder/occult01.html -Chris *** Until now, my advisors and I have deflected your questions as to how and if my diverse operations and holdings, which seem autonomous and even contradictory, are integrated into an organic whole to serve the dynasty's interests. The fact that you asked these questions, rejecting my carefully nurtured public image as an idle, coupon clipping philanthropist, was a major factor in the high esteem in which I hold you. Most of your competitors found puppet leadership in any one of my organi- zations so awesome and gratifying that they immediately eliminated themselves from the contest for the top position which you have won. Such men of limited vision are neces- sary for my success. They bend unconsciously to the subtle pressures to which I expose them. They can be led in any direction I choose by simple-minded rationalizations aimed at their vanity without being privy to my motives which would be short lived secrets in their undisciplined and envious minds . Although you now must begin to pursue it consciously you have already displayed the alienation from your emotional nature that is so essential to achieving real worldly power. As your tutors will explain, occult or secret knowledge is the basis of all power in human society, so I use the word occult advisedly, in its pristine usage. Human hierarchies, in contrast to the animal variety, are best sustained when the members are deluded regarding the oppressive nature, or better, even the very existence of the hierarchy Nearly everyone believes major decisions to be the vector sum of autonomous pressures exerted by business, labor, government, consum- ers, social classes, and other special interests. In fact, the vectors of societal power are carefully balanced by us so that any net movement is in a direction chosen by us. The only fly in the ointment is the occasional, but extremely messy, interferences by competing financial dynasties. Throughout history, secure ruling elites arise through se-cret, or occult knowledge which they carefully guard and withhold from outsiders The power of such elites or cults diminishes as their occult knowledge is transformed into scientific knowledge and vanishes as soon as it becomes common sense. The men who first studied and grasped the regularities of sun, moon, and stars that presage the seasons had a valuable commodity to sell and they milked it to the fullest at the expense of their credulous fellowmen. The occult priesthoods of early astronomers and mathemati- cians such as the designers of Stonehenge, convinced their subjects that they alone had contact with the gods, and thus, they alone could assure the return of planting seasons and weather favorable to bountiful harvests. The staging (predicting) of solar and lunar eclipses was particularly effective in awing the community The general success resulting from following the priesthood's tilling, planting, nurturing, and harvesting time tables insured the priest- hood's powerPopular knowledge of seasonal regularities was discouraged by every manner of mysticism and outlandish ritual imaginable. Failures in prediction were blamed on sins of the people and used to justify intensified oppression. For centuries people who had literally no idea of the number of days between seasons and couldn't count anyway, cheerfully gave up a portion of their harvests, as well as their most beautiful daughters, to their faithful servants in the priest- hoods . The power of our finance capitalist money cult rests on a similar secret knowledge, primarily in the field of economics. Our power is weakened by real advances in economic science. (Fortunately, the public at large and most revolutionaries remain totally ignorant of economics. However, we established money lords have been able to prolong and even reverse our decline by systematically corrupting economic science with fallacious and spurious doctrines. Through our power in the universities, publishing, and mass media we have been able to reward the sincere, professorial cranks whose spurious doctrines happen to rationalize in terms of common good the government supported institutions, laws, and economic measures upon which our money powers depend. However, we are so powerful today that it is no longer possible to conceal our imposing institutions with the appearances of free competition. Keynesianism rationalizes this omnipotent state which we require, while retaining the privileges of
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...
-Caveat Lector- are you saying th4e supreme court didn't appoint bush? Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: M. A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:32:38 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ... thew just a quick note here george w bush was appointed, and not elected MJ Only some Religious Myrmidons chant such absurdity. Regard$, --MJ If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -- Anatole France A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers By Pat Taylor CNSNews.com Correspondent July 16, 2001 With all hope gone for producing any crops this year, the desperate farmers of Oregon's Klamath Basin are now emphasizing the plight of the wildlife and waterfowl that also depend on irrigation water, which the federal government has diverted away from farmland to save endangered fish. A growing crowd of farm families has gathered in protest near the headgates of the main irrigation canal. All on-the-scene accounts in this report were received by email or cell phone from people who are there, on the ground. On Friday evening the protesters partially opened the headgates, releasing some irrigation water, as they did on the Fourth of July. But early Saturday morning, federal officials arrived to close the gates. Federal marshals locked themselves inside the fence that surrounds the headgates in order to prevent further water releases. The protesters were sent outside the fence, where they have been camped out ever since. On Sunday afternoon, about 300 people watched and cheered as a group of farmers constructed a makeshift pumping station and began pumping water out of Upper Klamath Lake. The water flowed around the fenced-in headgates. through an eight-inch irrigation pipe, spilled onto the ground and eventually back into the irrigation canal. It was a symbolic gesture, since the small amount of water is too little, too late to help farmers recover any crops from their parched fields. The makeshift pumping station is on city land, thus bypassing the federal headgates. Before long, however, the federal agents on duty helped farmers run the pipe through the fence so the water could flow directly into the irrigation canal to prevent erosion of the canal bank. Farmers downstream agreed not to divert the water for irrigation, so it can reach the Tulelake Wildlife Refuge, at the other end of the basin in California. The wildlife refuge is a major stop for migrating ducks, geese, swans, bald eagles and more than 400 species of wildlife. This year, without the irrigation water that it relies on, the refuge has turned into a death trap for the birds. Their carcasses already are beginning to litter the landscape. Newspaper reports say biologists expect close to a thousand bald eagles and up to 25,000 waterfowl to die of disease and starvation. In addition to the birds, other wildlife such as deer, antelope and pheasants are also dying of starvation without the water and habitat normally provided by the irrigation canals and croplands. The solution proposed by activist environmental organizations such as the Oregon Natural Resources Council - which forced the government to shut off the irrigation water through citizen lawsuits under the Endangered Species Act - is another threatened lawsuit to take more irrigation water from farmers. This time they want to take the water from farmers who are getting it from federal reservoirs other than Upper Klamath Lake and divert it to the wildlife refuge. The farmers think a better solution is to turn on the irrigation water so that the humans and wildlife in the basin can survive along with the allegedly endangered fish. Although the small amount of water currently being released from the lake is not expected to restore the wildlife refuge, it is a symbolic gesture that the farmers believe demonstrates the fact that they are the true environmentalists, not the activists who forced the irrigation water to be turned off with no regard for the wildlife. As of 7:30 p.m. Sunday evening, the water was still flowing, and the gathered crowd could be heard singing hymns and making plans to host a barbecue Monday evening for the reinforcements that are reportedly on their way from all over the country. We plan to stay here as long as the federal agents are here, Klamath farmer Dick Carlton told CNSNews in a cell phone interview Sunday evening. Although the situation was a bit tense when the federal agents first arrived, given that the protesters were willing to go to jail if necessary, Carlton said there have been no problems between the feds and the farmers. We even get a laugh out of them every now and then, he said. The farmers haven't lost their sense of humor either. At one point Sunday afternoon, a photo was circulated of the federal agents locked up inside the fence, on which someone had posted a sign that read, Federal Agent Viewing Area. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- ok now i'm confused birds are important , fish are not? birds that are in no danger, as a species, are important, but the loss of a species of fish is not? o wait, birds are cuter than fish. that must be it. -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:02:35 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers (fwd) -Caveat Lector- Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers By Pat Taylor CNSNews.com Correspondent July 16, 2001 With all hope gone for producing any crops this year, the desperate farmers of Oregon's Klamath Basin are now emphasizing the plight of the wildlife and waterfowl that also depend on irrigation water, which the federal government has diverted away from farmland to save endangered fish. A growing crowd of farm families has gathered in protest near the headgates of the main irrigation canal. All on-the-scene accounts in this report were received by email or cell phone from people who are there, on the ground. On Friday evening the protesters partially opened the headgates, releasing some irrigation water, as they did on the Fourth of July. But early Saturday morning, federal officials arrived to close the gates. Federal marshals locked themselves inside the fence that surrounds the headgates in order to prevent further water releases. The protesters were sent outside the fence, where they have been camped out ever since. On Sunday afternoon, about 300 people watched and cheered as a group of farmers constructed a makeshift pumping station and began pumping water out of Upper Klamath Lake. The water flowed around the fenced-in headgates. through an eight-inch irrigation pipe, spilled onto the ground and eventually back into the irrigation canal. It was a symbolic gesture, since the small amount of water is too little, too late to help farmers recover any crops from their parched fields. The makeshift pumping station is on city land, thus bypassing the federal headgates. Before long, however, the federal agents on duty helped farmers run the pipe through the fence so the water could flow directly into the irrigation canal to prevent erosion of the canal bank. Farmers downstream agreed not to divert the water for irrigation, so it can reach the Tulelake Wildlife Refuge, at the other end of the basin in California. The wildlife refuge is a major stop for migrating ducks, geese, swans, bald eagles and more than 400 species of wildlife. This year, without the irrigation water that it relies on, the refuge has turned into a death trap for the birds. Their carcasses already are beginning to litter the landscape. Newspaper reports say biologists expect close to a thousand bald eagles and up to 25,000 waterfowl to die of disease and starvation. In addition to the birds, other wildlife such as deer, antelope and pheasants are also dying of starvation without the water and habitat normally provided by the irrigation canals and croplands. The solution proposed by activist environmental organizations such as the Oregon Natural Resources Council - which forced the government to shut off the irrigation water through citizen lawsuits under the Endangered Species Act - is another threatened lawsuit to take more irrigation water from farmers. This time they want to take the water from farmers who are getting it from federal reservoirs other than Upper Klamath Lake and divert it to the wildlife refuge. The farmers think a better solution is to turn on the irrigation water so that the humans and wildlife in the basin can survive along with the allegedly endangered fish. Although the small amount of water currently being released from the lake is not expected to restore the wildlife refuge, it is a symbolic gesture that the farmers believe demonstrates the fact that they are the true environmentalists, not the activists who forced the irrigation water to be turned off with no regard for the wildlife. As of 7:30 p.m. Sunday evening, the water was still flowing, and the gathered crowd could be heard singing hymns and making plans to host a barbecue Monday evening for the reinforcements that are reportedly on their way from all over the country. We plan to stay here as long as the federal agents are here, Klamath farmer Dick Carlton told CNSNews in a cell phone interview Sunday evening. Although the situation was a bit tense when the federal agents first arrived, given that the protesters were willing to go to jail if necessary, Carlton said there have been no problems between the feds and the farmers. We even get a laugh out of them every now and then, he said.
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- The fish are not unimportant but the whole situation seems to be a case of 'selective empathy' on the part of environmentalists. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- ok now i'm confused birds are important , fish are not? birds that are in no danger, as a species, are important, but the loss of a species of fish is not? o wait, birds are cuter than fish. that must be it. -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:02:35 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers (fwd) -Caveat Lector- Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers By Pat Taylor CNSNews.com Correspondent July 16, 2001 With all hope gone for producing any crops this year, the desperate farmers of Oregon's Klamath Basin are now emphasizing the plight of the wildlife and waterfowl that also depend on irrigation water, which the federal government has diverted away from farmland to save endangered fish. A growing crowd of farm families has gathered in protest near the headgates of the main irrigation canal. All on-the-scene accounts in this report were received by email or cell phone from people who are there, on the ground. On Friday evening the protesters partially opened the headgates, releasing some irrigation water, as they did on the Fourth of July. But early Saturday morning, federal officials arrived to close the gates. Federal marshals locked themselves inside the fence that surrounds the headgates in order to prevent further water releases. The protesters were sent outside the fence, where they have been camped out ever since. On Sunday afternoon, about 300 people watched and cheered as a group of farmers constructed a makeshift pumping station and began pumping water out of Upper Klamath Lake. The water flowed around the fenced-in headgates. through an eight-inch irrigation pipe, spilled onto the ground and eventually back into the irrigation canal. It was a symbolic gesture, since the small amount of water is too little, too late to help farmers recover any crops from their parched fields. The makeshift pumping station is on city land, thus bypassing the federal headgates. Before long, however, the federal agents on duty helped farmers run the pipe through the fence so the water could flow directly into the irrigation canal to prevent erosion of the canal bank. Farmers downstream agreed not to divert the water for irrigation, so it can reach the Tulelake Wildlife Refuge, at the other end of the basin in California. The wildlife refuge is a major stop for migrating ducks, geese, swans, bald eagles and more than 400 species of wildlife. This year, without the irrigation water that it relies on, the refuge has turned into a death trap for the birds. Their carcasses already are beginning to litter the landscape. Newspaper reports say biologists expect close to a thousand bald eagles and up to 25,000 waterfowl to die of disease and starvation. In addition to the birds, other wildlife such as deer, antelope and pheasants are also dying of starvation without the water and habitat normally provided by the irrigation canals and croplands. The solution proposed by activist environmental organizations such as the Oregon Natural Resources Council - which forced the government to shut off the irrigation water through citizen lawsuits under the Endangered Species Act - is another threatened lawsuit to take more irrigation water from farmers. This time they want to take the water from farmers who are getting it from federal reservoirs other than Upper Klamath Lake and divert it to the wildlife refuge. The farmers think a better solution is to turn on the irrigation water so that the humans and wildlife in the basin can survive along with the allegedly endangered fish. Although the small amount of water currently being released from the lake is not expected to restore the wildlife refuge, it is a symbolic gesture that the farmers believe demonstrates the fact that they are the true environmentalists, not the activists who forced the irrigation water to be turned off with no regard for the wildlife. As of 7:30 p.m. Sunday evening, the water was still flowing, and the gathered crowd could be heard singing hymns and making plans to host a barbecue Monday evening for the reinforcements that are reportedly on their way from all over the country. We plan to stay here as long as the federal agents are here, Klamath farmer Dick Carlton told CNSNews in a cell phone interview Sunday evening.
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- perhaps you don't quite grasp the difference between individuals dying and extinction. many birds dying sucks, but I for one would say the farmers are important also, lets find some middle ground. A species going extinct ,however, is orders of importance greater, than non-endangered individual birds dying. It's more tragic than the loss of a farm, or a thousand birds. It's irrevocable. -- --- - Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it Elwood P Dowd NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:21:45 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers -Caveat Lector- The fish are not unimportant but the whole situation seems to be a case of 'selective empathy' on the part of environmentalists. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- ok now i'm confused birds are important , fish are not? birds that are in no danger, as a species, are important, but the loss of a species of fish is not? o wait, birds are cuter than fish. that must be it. -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:02:35 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers (fwd) -Caveat Lector- Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers By Pat Taylor CNSNews.com Correspondent July 16, 2001 With all hope gone for producing any crops this year, the desperate farmers of Oregon's Klamath Basin are now emphasizing the plight of the wildlife and waterfowl that also depend on irrigation water, which the federal government has diverted away from farmland to save endangered fish. A growing crowd of farm families has gathered in protest near the headgates of the main irrigation canal. All on-the-scene accounts in this report were received by email or cell phone from people who are there, on the ground. On Friday evening the protesters partially opened the headgates, releasing some irrigation water, as they did on the Fourth of July. But early Saturday morning, federal officials arrived to close the gates. Federal marshals locked themselves inside the fence that surrounds the headgates in order to prevent further water releases. The protesters were sent outside the fence, where they have been camped out ever since. On Sunday afternoon, about 300 people watched and cheered as a group of farmers constructed a makeshift pumping station and began pumping water out of Upper Klamath Lake. The water flowed around the fenced-in headgates. through an eight-inch irrigation pipe, spilled onto the ground and eventually back into the irrigation canal. It was a symbolic gesture, since the small amount of water is too little, too late to help farmers recover any crops from their parched fields. The makeshift pumping station is on city land, thus bypassing the federal headgates. Before long, however, the federal agents on duty helped farmers run the pipe through the fence so the water could flow directly into the irrigation canal to prevent erosion of the canal bank. Farmers downstream agreed not to divert the water for irrigation, so it can reach the Tulelake Wildlife Refuge, at the other end of the basin in California. The wildlife refuge is a major stop for migrating ducks, geese, swans, bald eagles and more than 400 species of wildlife. This year, without the irrigation water that it relies on, the refuge has turned into a death trap for the birds. Their carcasses already are beginning to litter the landscape. Newspaper reports say biologists expect close to a thousand bald eagles and up to 25,000 waterfowl to die of disease and starvation. In addition to the birds, other wildlife such as deer, antelope and pheasants are also dying of starvation without the water and habitat normally provided by the irrigation canals and croplands. The solution proposed by activist environmental organizations such as the Oregon Natural Resources Council - which forced the government to shut off the irrigation water through citizen lawsuits under the Endangered Species Act - is another threatened lawsuit to take more irrigation water from farmers. This time they want to take the water from farmers who are getting it from federal reservoirs other than Upper Klamath Lake and divert it to the wildlife refuge. The farmers think a better solution is to turn on the irrigation water so that the humans and wildlife in the basin can survive along with
[CTRL] Stalin's Dirty Betrayal In Spanish Civil War
-Caveat Lector- July 17, 2001 Deceit in Spanish Civil War Arnold Beichman When Gen. Emilio Mola was asked at the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War in July 1936 which of his four columns he expected would capture Madrid, he replied, the fifth column. He was, of course, referring to his undercover rebel supporters within the capital city. What he didn't know was that there was a sixth column in Madrid comprising supposed supporters of the beleaguered Spanish Republic who would in time help him and his successor, Gen. Francisco Franco, to take Madrid and win the war. These were Joseph Stalin's battalions, Spanish Communist Party members, Soviet secret police, and Comintern agents whose instructions from Stalin were fairly simple: Take control of the war and, of equal if not greater importance, execute all Trotskyites. Trotskyite was a catchall appellation covering all leftist opponents of Stalinist communism and, especially in Spain, anarchists or anarcho-syndicalists. For Stalin, beating back Franco and his nationalist troops was far down on his must list. Such a statement about Stalinist duplicity would be rejected even today by any good left liberal as calumny. Understandably. Even though Stalin, like V.I. Lenin, had wiped out in the Soviet Union anything resembling democracy, and even though the Moscow show trials were in full swing, Western liberals en masse believed that the communists were the most effective champions of democracy in Spain. Mountains of mendacity, was Paul Johnson's phrase describing the pro-Soviet lies that circulated about the Spanish Civil War. No episode in the 1930s has been more lied about than this one. And now at long last we have in Spain Betrayed: The Soviet Union and the Spanish Civil War, edited by Ronald Radosh, Mary R. Habeck and Grigory Sevostianov, immutable proof of what George Orwell was reporting at the time to skeptical audiences, namely, how Stalin had been betraying the Spanish Republicans from day one of the Civil War. There is documentary proof right from the Soviet archives themselves that a concomitant of the Spanish Civil War was a Stalin-directed war against Republican government officials, Spanish and foreign soldiers alike who opposed Soviet takeover of Spain. To understand the full meaning of these telltale tidbits from the archives we must first look back at one of the most infamous party line dogmas spawned in 1931 by the Soviet dictator : social fascism. It was infamous because it made Adolf Hitler inevitable. Stalin propounded the theory that the real enemies of the revolution were not fascists, Nazis or capitalists. No, the real enemies were socialists, social democrats and non-communist labor leaders and followers of the exiled, and later assassinated, Leon Trotsky. Stalin imposed this calamitous party line on the Spanish Civil War because the Spanish Republican cause was of secondary importance to him. Thus Largo Caballero, leader of the Republican forces and a true democrat who refused to follow Kremlin orders, was to Stalin a far greater enemy than Franco. One can read the results of the party line in the 81 documents included in this book, communications between Soviet agents on the spot and Soviet officials in Moscow who instructed their agents as to what Stalin wanted done and no questions asked. Those who asked questions were purged, imprisoned or shot. What these documents also reveal conclusively is that the Nation magazine during the Spanish Civil War was itself betrayed by one of its on-the-scene correspondents, Louis Fischer. In an 8,000-word Comintern stenogram (Document 30) he is shown to be reporting to a high Soviet intelligence official on December 31, 1936 about supposedly unsuccessful Spanish Republican generals, proving that they represented a government of traitors. Fischer, who later turned against communism, was 100 percent in the pocket of Soviet intelligence throughout the war while filing dispatches to the Nation. In all the post-Soviet archival revelations the documents cited here are among the most meaningful because the Spanish Civil War was also a good war of the intellectuals. It came at a time of the emergence of the Kremlin-run Popular Front and the recruitment of some intellectuals as Soviet spies in Britain, the United States, Canada and France. Spain in 1936 became the symbol of the resistance to fascism. It is sad to read these Soviet archives and read the words of a Soviet agent to the Comintern's Georgi Dimitrov: The war cannot end successfully if the Communist Party does not take power in its own hands. It is even sadder to note that while some 31,000 men volunteered for the International Brigades, only 10,000 remained as of August, 1938 (Document 74). So many gave up their lives for nothing. And it surely became nothing when Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler signed their non-aggression pact in August, 1939.
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- But what if the actions taken to save these fish also pose possible species endangering consequences for the birds? It's my understanding that the fish in question are not native to Klamath so saving the native wildlife should take priority. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- perhaps you don't quite grasp the difference between individuals dying and extinction. many birds dying sucks, but I for one would say the farmers are important also, lets find some middle ground. A species going extinct ,however, is orders of importance greater, than non-endangered individual birds dying. It's more tragic than the loss of a farm, or a thousand birds. It's irrevocable. -- --- - Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it Elwood P Dowd NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:21:45 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers -Caveat Lector- The fish are not unimportant but the whole situation seems to be a case of 'selective empathy' on the part of environmentalists. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- ok now i'm confused birds are important , fish are not? birds that are in no danger, as a species, are important, but the loss of a species of fish is not? o wait, birds are cuter than fish. that must be it. -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:02:35 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers (fwd) -Caveat Lector- Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers By Pat Taylor CNSNews.com Correspondent July 16, 2001 With all hope gone for producing any crops this year, the desperate farmers of Oregon's Klamath Basin are now emphasizing the plight of the wildlife and waterfowl that also depend on irrigation water, which the federal government has diverted away from farmland to save endangered fish. A growing crowd of farm families has gathered in protest near the headgates of the main irrigation canal. All on-the-scene accounts in this report were received by email or cell phone from people who are there, on the ground. On Friday evening the protesters partially opened the headgates, releasing some irrigation water, as they did on the Fourth of July. But early Saturday morning, federal officials arrived to close the gates. Federal marshals locked themselves inside the fence that surrounds the headgates in order to prevent further water releases. The protesters were sent outside the fence, where they have been camped out ever since. On Sunday afternoon, about 300 people watched and cheered as a group of farmers constructed a makeshift pumping station and began pumping water out of Upper Klamath Lake. The water flowed around the fenced-in headgates. through an eight-inch irrigation pipe, spilled onto the ground and eventually back into the irrigation canal. It was a symbolic gesture, since the small amount of water is too little, too late to help farmers recover any crops from their parched fields. The makeshift pumping station is on city land, thus bypassing the federal headgates. Before long, however, the federal agents on duty helped farmers run the pipe through the fence so the water could flow directly into the irrigation canal to prevent erosion of the canal bank. Farmers downstream agreed not to divert the water for irrigation, so it can reach the Tulelake Wildlife Refuge, at the other end of the basin in California. The wildlife refuge is a major stop for migrating ducks, geese, swans, bald eagles and more than 400 species of wildlife. This year, without the irrigation water that it relies on, the refuge has turned into a death trap for the birds. Their carcasses already are beginning to litter the landscape. Newspaper reports say biologists expect close to a thousand bald eagles and up to 25,000 waterfowl to die of disease and starvation. In addition to the birds, other wildlife such as deer, antelope and pheasants are also dying of starvation without the water and habitat normally provided by the irrigation canals and croplands. The solution proposed by activist environmental organizations such as the Oregon Natural Resources Council - which forced the government to shut off the irrigation water through citizen lawsuits under the
[CTRL] Project 137 and Jason from a member
-Caveat Lector- Most of the information you see on Jason is from third-hand sources who seem to have a lot of fear of a group of intelligent men who meet to discuss the latest in scientific/military technology. In his book, Making Weapons, Talking Peace (1987), Manhattan Project physicist Herbert F. York, who is seldom mentioned as a UFO conspirator, gives his first-hand views on the Jason group. Contrary to the UFO literature, he does not call it the Jason Society or Jason Scholars. They MAY have discussed UFOs and aliens, but it seems their main focus in reaction to the launching of Sputnik was to try to avert nuclear war. From Making Weapons, Talking Peace, pp. 152-153: Project 137 After ARPA Concrete plans for a special, one-time summer conference, now called Project 137, intended as a first step, were formulated, and the authors of the idea... submitted a list of names of people to be invited. In June I sent a letter to some thirty persons inviting them to participate in a small Top Secret study and work group here in Washington, July 14-August 2, 1958. ...They covered a wide spectrum of defense problems in which we thought the application of the most up-to-date science might be helpful. Approximately 20 scientists attended. Among the matters that were studied that summer were electromagnetic propulsion, small submarines, hydrofoils, nuclear airplanes, communications for the Polaris system, weather control, antisubmarine warfare, game theory applications, and automata. ... Two years later, in 1960, [others] called for a long summer study every year, plus several additional, brief meetings during the winter, all devoted to the study of the sort of science and security issues that had engaged them that first summer in Washington. ...the group would get unusually uninhibited access to information and high officials... The new unit was soon named Jason and has flourished ever since. Then, on pp. 233-235: Jason For the first fourteen years of its life, Jason - whose creation was the final net result of Project 137 - operated as a division of IDA. Since then Jason has been successively a division of the Stanford Research Institute and the Mitre Corporation. ... the Jasons continued to work on problems connecting the most advanced ideas and results in the physical sciences with current problems of defense. Jason pioneered the work in beam weapons of all kinds. ...More recently, it has reviewed essentially all of the technical questions relevant to President Reagan's Star Wars proposal. End of quoting. York goes on to say the Vietnam War divided the Jason scientists, most of whom were also college professors, and resulted in many of them dropping out of the group over the moral issues of the war. The following descriptions of Jason come from the UFO community, primarily Cooper and Lear, and appear to be at the least sensationalized and at most extremist. JASON SOCIETY (Jason Scholars) Former President Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as the Jason Society (or Jason Scholars) under the leadership of the following; Director of Central Intelligence, Allen Welsh Dulles, Dr Zbigniew Brzezinski, President of the Trilateral Commission from 1973 until 1976, and Dr. Henry Kissenger, leader of the scientific effort, to sift through all the facts, evidence, technology, lies and deceptions and find the truth of the Alien question. The society was made up of thirty two (32) of the most prominent men in the USA. Calling Jason a secret society seems to be quite a stretch, like calling a baseball team a secret society because they don't tell the other team their signs for a bunt or steal. Calling Kissinger the leader of the scientific effort seems on the surface patently ridiculous. I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton, California, 92632, (714) 680-9537, do solemnly swear that the information contained in this file is true and correct to the best of my knowledge. etc. etc. MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group. President Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts, evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of the alien question. The society was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members were designated MJ-12. MJ-12 has total control over everything. They are designated by the codes J-1, J-2, etc all the way through the members of the Jason Society. Is it possible the MJ designation has a much more innocent origin, like Member of Jason? The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director of MJ-12. MJ-12 is responsible only to the President. MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade. If the group was a scientific one, as York asserts, this would be far below the level of their interests. But one never knows, does one? A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND and it was described as only
[CTRL] What Johnny learns at school (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [Note: Judge Robert Bork in wrote, in Slouching Toward Gomorrah, Now, however, the educational system has become the weapon of choice for modern liberals in their project of dismantling American culture. This use of schools in the dismantling of our culture began with the very beginnings of our communist style collectivist system of education, with Horace Mann, and the creation of teacher colleges. In recent decades the intensity of the attack has been multiplied. Listen to what those who educate our teachers have to say: Formal education carried on subversively, can be in the forefront of building a new moral order... it provides some measure of the physical and social isolation necessary for the incubation process. (Roberta T. Ash; Durkheim's Moral Education Reconsidered: Toward the Creation of a Counterculture. In SCHOOL REVIEW, November, 1971, p. 132) - ... our efforts as educators must not be directed to restoring the past order of morality but to participating in creating a new one... when it is shed there will be a new moral order to take it's place... a counterculture that will burst through the surface. (Roberta T. Ash; Durkheim's Moral Education Reconsidered: Toward the Creation of a Counterculture. In SCHOOL REVIEW, November, 1971, p. 112) - teachers who conform to the traditional institutional mode are out of place. They might find fulfillment as tap-dance instructors, or guards in maximum security prisons or proprietors of reducing salons, or agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation - - but they damage teaching, children, and themselves by staying in the classroom. (NEA book, Schools For the 70's And Beyond). Just what does our modern education system support? Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism and every American public school is a school of humanism. What can the theistic Sunday-schools, meeting for an hour once a week, and teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching? -C. F. Potter (a signer of the Humanist Manifesto) Humanism, A New Religion (1930). The answer I believe, does not lie in reforming the system, or vouchers (he who takes public money will live under government rule because of it), or such schemes as that, ideally it lies in removing your children from the public indoctrination centers, lacking that we MUST counter the indoctrination, teach your children, take the time, some time, any time, every day, to teach your children what is right. Get them into a good Bible believing and teaching Church. Here is a good book that will open your eyes on the subject, one of a number of good books: None Dare Call It Education by John A. Stormer, published by Liberty Bell Press, Florissant, Missouri. John Stormer short bio states - ..a researcher, writer, school superintendent and pastor. It is a must read for all. - Tony] What Johnny learns at school Linda Bowles © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23665 There was a time, let's call them the good old days, when parents could send their little children off to school with full confidence they would be in good hands. Sadly, the good old days are gone. It is appropriate that most of the criticism of government schools deals with academic failure. But that is only half the wretched story. Contrary to what many parents think, most of those responsible for the education of our children are not socially and politically neutral. They are ideologues with an agenda. While a good case could be made to say we are on the verge of being overrun by an avalanche of academic ignorance, it would not be accurate to say our kids are graduating empty headed. Perhaps it's time for another updated review of some of the important things our children are learning in government school classrooms. While Johnny and Jill may not be learning how to read, they are learning that: teachers are underpaid, God is irrelevant, big business is ruining the environment, the Bible says driving an SUV is a sin, rewards should be based on need rather than performance, bisexual individuals are under the command of unstable genes, the Alamo was a great Mexican victory, society rather than the individual is responsible for crime, saving the sucker fish is more important than saving farmers, teachers' pay should be doubled, a diversity of cultures and languages is America's strength, Thomas Jefferson was a racist, two plus two equals whatever, competition is destructive, the right to be wrong makes wrong right, the Boy Scouts are a hate group, Ronald Reagan is responsible for the disappearance of the dinosaurs, the Catholic Church is a hate group, defending yourself promotes violence, the government is the source from which all blessings flow, Southern Baptists are a hate group, high taxes are good for America, equality is more important than excellence, carbon dioxide is poisoning the world, cops hate black people,
[CTRL] Brave New Australia
-Caveat Lector- NATIONAL WATCHMAN UPDATE No 16. Vol 2. DATE : Sunday, July 15, 2001 SUBJECT : A Planned Republic Bringing you step by step to an understanding of the coming New World Order and associated One World Government. Yes, there is time to prepare but you must listen to The National Watchman. Introduction The Sydney Morning Herald (25/06/2001) reported on ex-Prime Minister Mr Malcolm Fraser who believes that the Australian population must double in the coming years. Australia, says Fraser, would make itself irrelevant to the rest of the world if it failed to do so. Fraser said Australia should be aiming for a population of 40 million to 45 million people, as it was selfish to limit the nation's wealth to just 20 million. People know there are great population pressures [in the world] and to keep the wealth of Australia to about 20 million people alone is probably very selfish. If we say, look, we're 20 million people, this is all we're going to be, all we're going to do, then we're sidelining ourselves and almost making ourselves irrelevant to the rest of the world. It is only fair to ask where these millions of people will come from and what sort of Australia this will herald for the average man? Where Will They Come From? Where the new arrivals will come from has been detailed by Phillip Ruthven, the acknowledged long range social and business forecaster and Chairman of IBIS Business Information. He, like Malcolm Fraser, has predicted major increases in population but has also detailed the consequences, By 2025 Australia was likely to have ceded some sovereignty over population and some financial and legal matters to a grouping based on our closer neighbours in the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation (APEC) countries . within 30 years Australia's decisions over population, finance and legal matters will be made by regional group of Asian Pacific countries by the end of the 21 st century [the population will be 150 million and ] new Australians would come from Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines and predominantly Indonesia. (Kennet calls for big rise in August intake The Age 16/3/98 P 6) Clearly the Malcolm Fraser's 20 million new arrivals will be part of the 150 million Asians that Ruthven sees planned for Australia. Note that Phillip Ruthven talks of the major consequence of economic integration, `a ceding of sovereignty. The plan is that within 30 years Australia's decisions over population, finance and legal matters will be made by regional group of Asian Pacific countries. This ' regional group of Asian Pacific countries' is to find a structure in the Asia Free Trade Zone which is now the official policy of the Australian government. The Elite Describe the Plan of Genocide The plan to 'consumerise' Australia based on a Asian population is well know in both political and business circles. William Hayden, former leader of the Labor Party and subsequently Governor General., has stated the following, It is inevitable that Australia will become an Eurasian country A new race will emerge; I happen to think that this is desirable. (Asia Week 19 / 8/ 1983 p 7) The finality of the plan, the swift and chilling wind, is the genocide of the Anglo Saxon people. In a Sixty Minutes report Gerry Harvey, operator of one of Australia's largest and most successful retail chains, responded to a question on Asianisation and detailed the methodology of the genocide. Basically, when I say 90 percent I don't mean all Asian, I mean 90 percent of people will have some Asian blood in them, it might only be 10 percent, but considering that the migration to Australia will be mostly from Asian countries, then with all the inter-marriage, I can't see how there will be many pure blooded, if we want to call it that, Anglo-Saxons... just won't exist anymore. Orchestrated Ethnic Cleansing Anglo-Saxons... just won't exist anymore. The proudly spoken words of Jerry Harvey. What these maestros of ethnic cleansing are telling you is that future population increase in Australia is to be Asian. There is no end to Asianisation except in the end of the Heritage Culture. Like the sale of Telstra after the first thirty percent was sold the complete sale was inevitable. As one leading politician said it is like being a little bit pregnant; you can't be. You cannot be a little bit privatized and you cannot be a little bit Asianised. As in the sale of Telstra the politicians knew the plan was `slowly, slowly'. And if they know what the real end of the preliminary sale of Telstra was, then you can be sure that they all too well understood the real end of the preliminary introduction of the Asians into the Australia cultural mix. Malcolm Fraser continues the long line of 'political party deception' of the Australian people. Free Booklet on your Asian Future THE NATIONAL WATCHMAN has a free report on the complete Asianisation plan. The reports details Australia's present destiny : economic change demanding
[CTRL] Fwd: criminals in government
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1734932a=13344929p=50833497Sequence=1res=high Saved message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jul 17, 2001, 7:43am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 49.86 mhz The Hanover Park, Illinois police department is taking extreme measures to suppress the truth about their complicity in the animalistic torture/murder of STACY FROBEL. In return for their assistance to Wackenhut/CIA in maintaining ANTHONY DETOLVE'S cocaine distribution franchise, the Hanover Park village management, and their largest single tax revenue source INLAND GROUP, (see LAURA LINK suicide) got a pass for the WINDOWPANE LSD/MEXICAN HEROIN business , run, in part, from the drinking establishment at the corner of rte. 19 and Jensen blvd in HanoverPark. This is where FROBELS car was located - and it was known to HPPD- while it was being cleaned out after her murder. Their current compromised thugs are driving a black, Dodge truck that doesnt have (or need) license plates. One of the thugs was previously associated with professional perjurer PAMELA KLEIN , and , through her, the law firm of HERVASCONDON and SOTOS who sued the cicero mayor on behalf of former HPPD chief PHILLIP BUE. Via their former mentor and employer, JAMES R SCHIROTT, HCS is co-owner of DENNIS HASTERT (US House speaker), the helpless and compromised HENRY HYDE, and LOREN STROTZ clerk of the second district appellate court. Kenneth B Thomas 7482 Jensen #3 Hanover Park, Illinois
[CTRL] Fwd: [American_Liberty] TWA Flight 800. The Psychology Of A Cover-Up
TWA 800 - Connecting The Dots...The Psychology Of A Cover-Up By James Sanders and Jack Cashill WorldNetDaily.com 7-16-1 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23651 I've been reading about the Flight 800 cover-up on WorldNetDaily. So far, the facts are convincing that the events did not happen as the official explanation describes. I only have one question though, why? Why would anyone want the people responsible to get away with this? - A WND reader The question above is of the sort we hear most often: How could a conspiracy of such magnitude occur in modern America and why would the government and the media allow the conspirators to get away with this. A good question. The answer can be traced to two variables, one a person, Bill Clinton, the other a date, 1996. Everything else derives from the two. Our liberal allies in this cause would rather not hear this--and their support is all the more honorable for its lack of political reinforcement--but the story makes no sense without this understanding. In 1992, a reported 89% of Washington correspondents voted for Bill Clinton (one of the bases of our generalizations about the major media). If, inevitably, they did not hold him to the same standards they would with a Republican president, they did not give him a free pass, at least not in those first two years. The election of 1994, however, changed all that. The Republican rout shook the media elite to the bottom of their very souls. Peter Jennings referred to it on air as a temper tantrum. More than a few of his colleagues openly stereotyped Republican voters as angry white men. The anxiety within media circles was palpable and profound. With Congress lost, the largely Democrat media reflexively closed ranks around their remaining standard bearer, President Clinton. Their role subtly shifted from pursuers of the truth to protectors of the President. This shift became evident at Oklahoma City. As soon as Timothy McVeigh was apprehended--just three months after Gingrich assumed power-- the major media seized on him as the inevitable consequence of the Republican revolution and its primary organ, hate radio. Words have consequences, Clinton piously intoned. The media echoed the refrain. They had little interest in finding the others unknown who were likely involved in the bombing. It would only obscure the clarity of the image they had already presented to America. Their collective failure to pursue obvious leads was as shocking and unprecedented as the FBI,s. As to President Clinton, he never looked back. He proved masterly at manipulating the victims, families and massaging his own ratings. With the media,s help he climbed above 50% public approval at Oklahoma City for the first time in ages and never fell below again. The Republican revolution was buried in the rubble, and a politically revived Bill Clinton understood how and why. In July of 1996, the resurgent Clinton knew he would easily beat Bob Dole in November. Only a catastrophe could deny him the one goal that inspired his every breath--reelection. On the night of July 17, he was presented with just such a catastrophe. There is no doubt that the official investigation into the crash was compromised from the beginning and ultimately corrupted. (Please see our previous WND articles for details). What follows is a conjecture on the psychology of that corruption based on the facts of the case and eight years of close observance of the Clinton White House. What motive, a skeptic might ask, would the White House have to risk so epic a cover-up? From the beginning of his term, Clinton,s greatest political vulnerability had been his tenuous grip on the role of Commander-in-Chief. If terrorists had been able to infiltrate American coastal waters and blow a 747 out of the sky, Bill Clinton,s re-election would have been seriously jeopardized. If the plane had been downed by mistake in the course of high tech war games staged close to shore to accommodate Democratic fat cats, Bill Clinton,s political career would have ended. There was no win in this situation. No Timothy McVeigh was about to emerge from central casting. Regardless of who shot down the plane--and White House insiders knew immediately--they had to play for time. If the results of the investigation could be pushed back at least until after November, Clinton would survive. So White House operatives moved immediately to kill the missile story that was being broadcast on CNN and the networks. Within 24 hours, the administration line, parroted by the media, was that no one knew for sure what caused the crash but that all leads were being pursued. This approach sounded prudent and reasonable. The 736 official eyewitnesses believed it. The thousands of professionals and volunteers who labored mightily to retrieve the wreckage believed it. The victims, families believed it. The President and Mrs. Clinton descended upon Long Island and assuaged the anxieties of these
[CTRL] Pragmatists, Primitivists, and Watermelons
Free Congress Foundation's Notable News Now July 17, 2001 The Free Congress Guest Commentary Environmentalism Three Ways: Pragmatists, Primitivists, and Watermelons by Thomas D. Cox As an information technology worker by day (and a crime fighting super-hero by night, but that's another story), I find it convenient to organize some kinds of information into rows and columns, like a spreadsheet. It helps me get my mind around a complex topic. While examining one such topic, environmentalism, I discovered that environmentalists can be divided into three general categories (columns): Pragmatists, Primitivists, and Watermelons. The three types see two, exemplary environmental problems - global warming and ozone depletion (rows) -- and their solutions vary differently. Pragmatists tend to follow the example of Teddy Roosevelt, an asthmatic city boy who developed a passion for understanding nature through science and personal experience. While developing enough respect for natural wonders to create the country's first national parks, he saw man as the dominant species, and nature as his domain, to be exploited responsibly, but not to be destroyed needlessly. Pragmatists seek to strike a balance between human needs and natural beauty, believing that, with recourse to accurate, scientific data, humanity can benefit from nature without destroying it, and vice-versa. Pragmatists want to see objective evidence of global warming and ozone depletion, and to identify the most likely causes of these phenomena, before they entertain government policies meant to remedy them. Pragmatists become excited by the environment if they find themselves at the foot of an erupting volcano, or in the path of a tornado, but otherwise, they tend to be focused calmly on the long term. Primitivists have no use for science. Their ideal world is one from which humans and their civilization have been erased, or, better yet one in which they never existed at all. If asked, they will admit to a desire to see about 99% of the world's human population disappear, except for themselves and a few close friends with a similar orientation. The most extreme primitivists believe that human life is no more valuable than the life of an insect or a plant, and that the idea of exploiting an animal or a plant to extend or improve the life of a human is immoral and selfish. In their more tempered state, primitivists envision a romantically idealized harmony in the relationship of man and nature. Their emblem of this ideal is the romanticized American Indian (whom they, of course, call a Native American, as if that phrase did not literally mean, one who was born in America). This mythical character lives frugally and gently with the land, worshiping it as a god, seeing spirituality in every tree and rock. One assumes these characters would not build casinos and duty-free liquor stores in their pristine estates, or profit from the sale of mineral rights therefrom. Primitivists accept global warming and ozone depletion without question, because these phenomena only serve to confirm their belief that man is a burden on nature, and that he will destroy it if allowed. Their remedy is simple and straightforward. Abort the unborn ones, and let the born ones freeze, bake and starve to death, and return their biodegradable packaging to the environment. Watermelons are pragmatic, too, in their own way. Having been exposed as hypocrites or fools, these believers in a bankrupt, failed ideology that calls for government ownership of everything, had to find another rock under which to hide. Environmentalism is the perfect refuge for communists, because it allows those who are red on the inside to put a layer of green on the outside, and continue to spread their toxic theology. In the 21st Century, environmentalism is the last bastion of people who think private property is The Man's way of oppressing the downtrodden. In the watermelon's view, people are not entirely evil. A certain number of them are required to drive the party elite in their limousines from the halls of power to their dachas in the woods, to cook their gourmet meals, and to fight and die in the interest of preserving and expanding their empires. However, the history of socialism in the 20th Century includes a laudable amount of population control in the form of purges. The big-name socialist utopias lightened Mother Earth's burden of humanity by a hundred million or so, in the interest of the state. While an unfortunate quantity of lead had to be introduced to the environment by firing squads, most of these deaths were accomplished with lower environmental impact -- mass starvation and death by slave labor predominating. In this century, Communist China has recently taken the lead in recycling. Environmentally responsible Chinese leaders now harvest the skin, corneas and internal organs of the political prisoners they execute, and sell them on the open market. While this practice carries the
[CTRL] Asa, the DEA, the news and people's views . . . the emperor wears no clothes
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10323.shtml Click Here: A HREF=http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10323.shtml; cannabisnews.com: Drug Agency Nominee Talks Tou /A - Posted by FoM on July 16, 2001 at 22:44:24 PT By Donna Leinwand, USA Today Source: USA Today Rep. Asa Hutchinson, a former federal prosecutor who's known as a drug warrior, is expected to win approval from the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday as President Bush's nominee to head the Drug Enforcement Administration. Hutchinson, a conservative Republican from Arkansas who helped prosecute President Clinton in the 1999 impeachment trial and sent Clinton's half-brother Roger to prison in 1984 on cocaine charges, promises aggressive and fair enforcement of drug laws. If confirmed by the full Senate, he says he would run an agency that would not use racial profiling, would seek long prison sentences for traffickers, and would push for more money for air patrols over Latin American and Caribbean drug-running routes. Although a tough talker when it comes to enforcement, Hutchinson says he supports education and treatment efforts to reduce demand in the USA for illegal drugs. Hutchinson will testify before the committee today. Although he is expected to face some tough questioning, he is not expected to face serious opposition. All but two of the 16 Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee, on which Hutchinson serves, have signed a letter supporting his confirmation. John Conyers, D-Mich., the ranking member of the House committee, will join Hutchinson's brother, Tim, a Republican senator from Arkansas, in testifying in his support. I think probably a lot of Asa's fervor on this issue developed from his life experiences, his brother says. We had a nephew who committed suicide under the influence of drugs. Most families have been hit in some way by drugs at some time. Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., is likely to ask Hutchinson if he will support redirecting U.S. drug policy from emphasizing law enforcement to focusing on treatment and prevention. Leahy and the committee's ranking Republican, Orrin Hatch of Utah, have introduced a bill that would provide grants to establish drug-treatment alternatives to prison. Hutchinson has taken a hard line on drug users. He says addicts who are ar rested and ordered to enter a treatment program by a court fare better than those who enter treatment voluntarily. More drug courts are needed where the prison sentence is hanging over a person's head an addict's head or a user's head, Hutchinson said a year ago during an appearance on CNN's Crossfire. Many of the addicts testify that what made them confront their drug use was a police officer arresting them. As a congressman, Hutchinson sponsored legislation last year to spend more money to shut down and clean up methamphetamine labs that had set up shop throughout Arkansas, the Midwest and Texas. He voted last year to increase the penalties for possessing so-called club drugs, including Ecstasy and the date-rape drug GHB, gamma hydroxybutyrate. And he supported President Clinton's $1.3 billion Plan Colombia, an aid package that helped arm Colombia's military to fight traffickers and to eradicate drug crops. The Asa Hutchinson File Age: 50; born Dec. 3, 1950, in Bentonville, Ark. Education: B.S., Bob Jones University, 1972; J.D., University of Arkansas School of Law, 1975. Career: Bentonville, Ark., city attorney, 1977-78; U.S. Attorney, 1982-85; private practice attorney with Karr Hutchinson in Fort Smith, Ark.; first elected to Congress in 1996. Served as a House manager during the impeachment trial of President Clinton. Family: Married to Susan Burrell Hutchinson. They have four children: Asa III, Sarah, John, and Seth; and one grandchild, Asa IV. Brother is Sen. Tim Hutchinson, R-Ark. Key issues: Privacy protection, prohibitions on racial profiling, legal assistance for victims of domestic violence; cleaning up illegal methamphetamine labs. Source: USA Today Research Note: Hutchinson says addicts forced by a court to enter a treatment program fare better than those who enter voluntarily. Source: USA Today (US) Author: Donna Leinwand, USA Today Published: July 16, 2001 Copyright: 2001 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc. Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.usatoday.com/ Related Articles: Asa and Me http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread9898.shtml President Names Congressman To Drug Agency http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread9653.shtml Republican Congressman To Head Drug Agency http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread9635.shtml HomeCommentEmailRegisterRecent CommentsHelp Comment #7 posted by Jose Melendez on July 17, 2001 at 08:30:49 PT: getting tough, eh? Asa Hutchinson is going to be tough on some drugs. Tough on Cannabis, whose users are generally peaceful, and therefore are easier to arrest and incarcerate because they will not fight back as will users of, say alcohol.
[CTRL] Gay Firearms Group Takes Aim at Stereotypes (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-57676jul14.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dpe%2Dcalifornia Gay Firearms Group Takes Aim at Stereotypes * Pink Pistols members train in the proper use of weapons. They say they want to challenge the assumption that gays and lesbians are anti-gun. MICHAEL P. LUCAS TIMES STAFF WRITER July 14 2001 Tall, sandy-haired Brian Cooper of West Hollywood took a Glock semiautomatic handgun one recent Sunday and blasted away at a torso-shaped target and an array of vivid human stereotypes. Cooper was at the shooting range with the Pink Pistols--a gay-lesbian group that offers its members firearms training and its foes a target for vituperative political fire. After sending a clip of 9-millimeter bullets through targets and into spindly yellow scrub at the Americana 1800 Adventure Club north of Santa Clarita, Cooper pulled off a pair of sound-muffling ear protectors and ambled under a breezeway to relax with his significant other, Richard Best, amid the racked rifles and stacked ammo boxes. When I was younger, I shot a .22 [caliber] rifle, but the Glock has quite a different kick. I have to get used to it, the 36-year-old Cooper said, flexing his shooting hand as his colleagues in the group paused to reload. Barely a month old and with only 12 members, the Los Angeles chapter of the Pink Pistols is but a speck on the recreational-political landscape, but it stands to challenge assumptions that the gay community is marching in lock-step toward more restrictive gun control. The Pink Pistols started last year in Boston, where founder Doug Krick, a 30-year-old computer engineer, said he and a circle of friends were stirred to action by an article by Jonathan Rauch, a National Journal senior writer and commentator who often addresses issues of interest to the gay community. In a piece posted March 13, 2000, on http://www.salon.com, Rauch expressed alarm over rising anti-gay hate crimes and called on gays to arm themselves in self-defense. He even suggested the new group's name, which Krick and his friends readily adopted. We started out with a bunch of friends who wanted to go out and go shooting, Krick said. Then it was, what else can we do? Let's rate some political candidates. Shooting Group Gets Political The Pink Pistols soon tussled with Massachusetts legislators over gun control bills, drawing publicity that touched a nerve among pro-gun activists elsewhere, and soon more Pink Pistols chapters sprang up. In California, the group has opposed legislation requiring the licensing of handgun buyers. Krick said there are now about 300 members in Indiana, Texas and Arizona. Not all the members are gay, such as a leader of an Arizona chapter, Krick said, who calls himself painfully vanilla and hetero. We're here for the purpose of breaking some stereotypes, [two being] the gay community as anti-gun and the gun community as anti-gay, Krick said. There's Assemblyman Paul Koretz (D-West Hollywood), for one, long a fervent gun control advocate, who scoffed at the group. It's a lot of hype and scam, Koretz said. I would be shocked if any member of our community is a member of that group. It sounds like a front for the NRA. But openly gay state Sen. Sheila Kuehl (D-Santa Monica) tempered any criticism, pointing out that gay-lesbian groups are a cross-section of America, after all. If they're simply about affinity--we're interested in our own self-defense and target practice and so on--that's fine, but I hope they're not going to try to convince the community that carrying a gun makes you safe, because it doesn't. Libertarian Party spokesman George Getz said his party promotes the gay pro-gun group in its publications. We're proud of the Pink Pistols, Getz said. Crooks and murderers don't agree with gun control, which is why people need to have guns to defend themselves. Back at the rural shooting range north of Santa Clarita, where the buzz of cicadas rises as soon as the thunder of gunfire echoes off into the distance, Los Angeles Pink Pistols organizer Tony Assenza was getting ready to signal for another round of live-fire training. Assenza, a 48-year-old advertising copywriter and competition pistol shooter, is straight, but he helped launch the group because his gay and lesbian friends are interested in shooting. He lets the Pink Pistols shoot as his guests at the private Americana range, where he is a member, and he offers the use of his collection of firearms and supplies ammunition. Best watched Cooper pick up a .45-caliber pistol, after telling Assenza that the 9-millimeter felt too light in his large hands. For me, it's a personal safety issue, Best said. I think I'd be safer with a weapon in the house. Sue Peabody, a printing sales representative from Valley Village, slipped a magazine into a purse-sized .25-caliber semiautomatic that she bought several years ago, fearing what she called an
[CTRL] Is This Really America?
-Caveat Lector- Sounds like the Washington D.C. Malcolm X Park or maybe Rock Fork Park? Like a Jack the Ripper they left calling cards Well now that sodomy is acceptable be prepared or the attack of the sodomists for now they are - respectible? Saba Authorities: OC rape suspects left calling card NBC4.TV SANTA ANA , July 16 - An ex-tagging gang's penchant for leaving its moniker at crime scenes provided the clue that led to five arrests for the July 3 rapes of two girls and the beating of their boyfriends, authorities said Monday. Erick Oswaldo Rivera, 19, of Anaheim, Cuauhtemoc Torres, 19, of Orange, and a 16-year-old and two 15-year-olds were arrested in connection with the attack. The victims were a 13-year-old girl and a 15-year-old girl and their teen-age boyfriends, said Orange County Sheriff Michael Carona. Authorities believe Rivera and the 16-year-old were involved in the rapes. The palm prints of two adult suspects were found on the red Mazda the victims took to remote Black Star Canyon, according to investigators. We received a variety of statements and admissions from everyone involved, said Jim Amormino of the Orange County Sheriff Department. All five were involved by either holding the male victims or the females. An anonymous donor who heard about the savagery of the attacks offered a $25,000 reward. But it was a female sheriff's deputy who saw LTK -- a virtual calling card left after the crime -- on a gate just 50 yards from the crime scene, which helped crack the case, Carona said. It shows they are not very bright to start with, and it shows they are pretty brazen, Carona said. He described the three older suspects as members of a gang -- it operates in the Orange and Anaheim areas, is made up of Hispanics and Asians and is not territorially based -- and the two 15-year-olds as initiates. The group started as a tagging gang, then transitioned to other things, Carona said. They left the moniker as a bragging right, and also that's what they like to do. What turned this case was a patrol deputy doing what she is supposed to do, noticing some changes in the environment, he said. For her protection, the deputy was not identified. The victims, who were on a furtive date, were accosted about 2 a.m. as they returned to the Mazda after a walk in a desolate area of Black Star Canyon, Amormino said. Carona said the five suspects came upon the car while it was parked, and stripped parts from it. The group returned to take more parts, and by then the four teens had returned. They noticed that all the windows on the vehicle were smashed, and some articles had been thrown on the ground. The boys were hit in the head with rocks and kicked in the head. One suffered a fractured skull, but both youths are now on the road to recovery, Amormino said. The girls were driven to a rock quarry off Santiago Canyon Road, where they raped, authorities said. Amormino said the gang, allegedly headed by Rivera, has about a dozen members. It's a small gang with very few members, he said. The graffiti was scrawled some time after the crimes were committed, and the deputy noticed it last Wednesday and passed the information on to investigators working on the case. Once the graffiti was linked to a gang operating in Orange, sheriff's investigators learned from police in Orange that Rivera drove a white 1987 Toyota hatchback like the victims had described, and a stakeout was started, Carona said. The victims also told authorities that one of the car's headlight, which was damaged, was noticeably dimmer than the other, Amormino said. On Friday, Rivera was arrested in the car after being stopped, Carona said. With him were Torres and two others. But only Rivera was arrested, and that was for an unrelated probation violation, Carona said. Additional investigation led to the 15-year-olds, who were questioned late Friday, Carona said. They admitted participating in the assaults and robberies and said they were witnesses to the rapes, Carona said, adding that they identified Rivera as a suspect in the sexual assaults. Investigators found Torres again and this time took him into custody, and the 16-year-old was arrested in Norwalk, Carona said. The sheriff said the reward did not factor in the arrests, but did raise public awareness, although investigators got a lot of leads that did not pan out. Carona said investigators have forensic evidence, such as semen, hair and fingernail scrapings that are still being processed. We would have caught them no matter what, Carona said. This just hastened it ... I can tell you that this was nothing more than some great, old-fashioned police work. The adults were booked into the Orange County Jail and the others were placed in Juvenile Hall, he said. Carona said the five were placed in a lineup, and Yes, they were picked out. Black Star Canyon is known for nocturnal hikers, drinkers and couples looking for romantic getaways. The youths had left their
Re: [CTRL] Gays/NAMBLA/Erotica
-Caveat Lector- Well June they should market their products in Columbus, Ohio but keep in mind what happened to Larry Flynt for I assure, he had degraded he fancy neighborhood in which he livied, degraded the community, hustled his Hustler Magazine but made one mistake - he was hustlinging into the drug scenario. Now people in Columbus were too polite to shoot the bastard - someone waited until he went to Georgia, where I assure you they still remember Sherman's March to the sea. With Larry it was goodbye an good riddancetake his garbage to California. Jim Traficant with his MAFIA connections is an angel compared to this sick and evil element in our Washington government. Problem is, little girls like Chandra Levy seem to pay the price? While Larry Flynt and Hugh Heffner still contribute to the ADL. Strange isn't it - slaughter of the innocents by the sodomites? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israel Tortures Children
http://english.hk.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=hke/h eadlines/010715/world/afp/Rights_group_accuses_Israeli_police_of_torturing_Pal estinian_youngsters.html Sunday, July 15 8:46 PM SGT Rights group accuses Israeli police of torturing Palestinian youngsters JERUSALEM, July 15 (AFP) - Palestinian teenager Sultan Mahdi's hands and feet were tied to a chair leg by Israeli interrogators who later shoved his head down a toilet, according to a report published by an Israeli human rights group Sunday. Mahdi, 15, is one of 10 boys whose case has been examined by the B'Tselem rights group which said they were abused and tortured at a police station in the Gush Etzion Jewish settlement bloc south of Bethlehem in the West Bank. "In most of the cases, the police arrested them at their homes in the middle of the night and took them to the police station in Gush Etzion, where police interrogators tortured them until morning," B'Tselem said in a statement. It said police, who arrested the 10 youngsters aged between 14 and 17 between the start of the Palestinian intifada or uprising in late September and January this year, were seeking to extract confessions and information about other minors. "These are not isolated cases or uncommon conduct by certain police officers, and information received by B'Tselem raises the serious likelihood that torture during interrogations at the Gush Etzion police station continues," it said. It said methods of torture included forcing the minors to stand in painful positions for prolonged periods, beating them severely for hours, sometimes with objects, pushing their heads into toilet bowls and flushing and making death threats. Mahdi said he was beaten about the face and head during his five-hour interrogation and decided to confess to throwing five stones at a settler's vehicle after his head was put in the toilet. Another boy, Ismail Sabatin, 17, said he was ordered to lean against a wall with his legs up and head down and later told to stand on a chair and grab a pipe fixed to the wall. "They removed the chair from under me and left me hanging in the air with my handcuffed hands holding on to the pipe and the weight of my body, hanging in the air, drawing my hands downwards," he said. Ibrahim Zaul 16, told B'Tselem one officer threatened to kill him, and said another boy had died under interrogation. "I was blindfolded. The interrogator said that he was going to electrocute me and that I would die like Ahmed. I felt the sensation of two iron wires being stuck on me but nothing happened," he said.
[CTRL] Chomsky- Hegemony Or Survival
http://www.gn.apc.org/cndyorks/yspace/articles/bmd/chomsky.htm
July 2001
Hegemony or Survival
By Noam Chomsky
At the end of June,, the UN Conference on Disarmament concludes the second of
its year 2001 sessions. Prospects for any constructive outcome of disarmament
efforts are slim. Discussions have been blocked by US insistence on pursuing
ballistic missile defense (BMD) programs, against near-unanimous opposition.
On the purpose of BMD, there is a fair measure of agreement across a broad
spectrum. Potential adversaries regard it as an offensive weapon. Reagan's
SDI ("Star wars") was understood in the same light. China's top arms control
official simply reflected common understanding when he observed that "Once
the United States believes it has both a strong spear and a strong shield, it
could lead them to conclude that nobody can harm the United States and they
can harm anyone they like anywhere in the world. There could be many more
bombings like what happened in Kosovo" -- the reaction of most of the world
to what was perceived as a reversion to the "gunboat wars" of a century ago,
with the "colonial powers of the West, with overwhelming technological
advantages, subduing natives and helpless countries that had no ability to
defend themselves," doing as they choose while "cloaked in moralistic
righteousness" (Israeli military analyst Amos Gilboa). The reaction to the
US-UK Gulf War was much the same among the traditional "natives and helpless
countries." Fortunately for its self-image, Western ideology is
well-insulated from such departures from right thinking.
China is also well aware that it is not immune. It knows that the US and NATO
maintain the right of first use of nuclear weapons, and knows as well as US
military analysts that "Flights by U.S. EP-3 planes near China...are not just
for passive surveillance; the aircraft also collect information used to
develop nuclear war plans" (William Arkin, Bull. of Atomic Scientists,
May/June 2001).
Canadian military planners advised their government that the goal of BMD is
"arguably more in order to preserve U.S./NATO freedom of action than because
U.S. really fears North Korean or Iranian threat." Prominent strategic
analysts agree. BMD "will facilitate the more effective application of U.S.
military power abroad, Andrew Bacevich writes (National Interest, Summer
2001): "By insulating the homeland from reprisal -- albeit in a limited way
-- missile defense will underwrite the capacity and willingness of the United
States to `shape' the environment elsewhere." He cites approvingly the
conclusion of Lawrence Kaplan: "Missile defense isn't really meant to protect
America. It's a tool for global dominance," for "hegemony."
That this goal should be embraced by all right-thinking people follows at
once from the principles of the "respectable" opinion that "defines the
parameters within which the policy debate occurs." The spectrum is very
broad: it excludes only "tattered remnants of hard-core isolationists" and
"those few beleaguered radicals still pining for the glory days of the
1960s," and is "so authoritative as to be virtually immune to challenge"
(Bacevich). The first principle is straightforward: "America as historical
vanguard." According to this authoritative principle, "history has a
discernible direction and destination. Uniquely among all the nations of the
world, the United States comprehends and manifests history's purpose,"
namely, "freedom, achieved through the spread of democratic capitalism, and
embodied in the American Way of Life." Accordingly, US hegemony is the
realization of history's purpose; the merest truism, "virtually immune to
challenge."
The principle is by no means novel, nor is the US unique in history in
basking in such praise from domestic thinkers.
In contrast, the goal offered the public -- protection from "rogue states" --
is not taken very seriously. Unless dedicated to instant collective suicide,
no state would launch missiles at the US. And there are far easier and safer
means to inflict enormous damage on its territory. "Anyone who doubts that
terrorists could smuggle a nuclear warhead into New York City should note
that they could always wrap it in a bale of marijuana," one prominent analyst
comments sardonically. Another points out that "a nuclear bomb that could
easily wipe out Manhattan and kill 100,000 people is a ball of plutonium
weighing about 15 pounds. It is a little bigger than a softball. One such
bomb could be carried into the United States in a suitcase. And if one could,
many could."
Nuclear weapons are, of course, not the only weapons of mass destruction
(WMD): chemical and biological weapons are arguably a greater threat to the
rich and powerful. The 1997 treaty banning chemical weapons is languishing in
large measure because the US has not funded inspections and other action,
while Washington has "made a mockery" of the treaty by effectively exempting
itself, a senior analyst of the Henry
[CTRL] Chemtrails- Delivery Systems For Dept. Of Death's Toxic Cocktails
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20010716.htm From the July 2001 Idaho Observer: Chemtrails: Delivery system for Dept. of Death's toxic cocktails To ignore chemtrails is to pretend that the DOD would never test its chemical and biological weapons on unsuspecting peopleMost people living on earth want only life, liberty, peace and the pursuit of happiness. In grisly contrast, America's military-industrial complex harbors an introverted and pathological fixation with war games and death technology. In its inexorable quest for absolute power -- that evolutionary state of decay warned about by President Eisenhower so many years ago -- the complex has unleashed a terrifying array of secretive and dangerous experiments. These include weather modification, earthquake induction and numerous chemical-biological tests on unwitting subjects. By Amy Worthington Every aspect of our physical environment is now being manipulated for war games. Discolored skies are continuously polluted by jets spraying chemical aerosols. Bizarre and unpredictable weather is often military-made. Electromagnetic abnormalities -- including artificial lightning -- are generated by HAARP-like installations in sundry places. People are becoming increasingly ill and immuno-compromised from such ecological tampering. In an expose on Henry Kissinger's momentous war crimes, author Christopher Hitchens writes in Harper's magazine that during the Vietnam War, a U.S. helicopter unit posted the slogan, “Death is our business and business is good.” This arrogant paradigm is perfect for the grotesque network of over 100 laboratories on campuses and industrial parks across the nation where military and contract personnel develop new technologies and strategies for killing human beings in the name of national security. From the military's own abstract of a workshop on “Chemical Lethality Predictions” we learn that when planes spray deadly chemicals in the form of rain or mist, it is possible to calculate how much of those killer agents can be deposited on each person on the ground. The calculations are so precise that “...ten large VX drops that fall over a populated area have the chance to kill up to 9 out of 10 people.” What business has the military to be spraying “populated areas” with lethal toxins? This is not defense at all. This is genocide. Many Americans have reported seeing or feeling chemical mists fall from the sky during chemtrail spray episodes. Chemtrail investigator Will Thomas reports that people hit by these mists usually become gravely ill within 48 hours. Thomas tells of hiker Joe Burton in Tennessee who, in 1998, was sprayed by a plane leaving a heavy toxic fog at tree-top level. Burton contracted symptoms similar to Gulf War Illness. Strange chemicals had entered his lungs, attacking his liver, gallbladder and kidneys. He was also found to have a very rare flu-like virus that was tracked to Geneva, Switzerland, home of the World Health Organization. Congressional hearings of 1975, 1977 and 1994 confirm in nauseating detail that our illustrious Department of Death has used the American population as hapless guinea pigs since WWII. Rutgers professor Leonard Cole collected from U.S. military records a horrifying list of biological and chemical agents furtively tested on American and Canadian civilian populations. In 1999, Jonathan Moreno of Clinton's Committee on Human Radiation Experiments, also confirmed in his book Undue Risk decades of murderous military-intelligence experimentation on civilians without their knowledge or consent. In 1953, an odious series of 36 tests was conducted on citizens of Winnipeg in Canada. Our government lied to the Winnipeg mayor, assuring him that the tests were non-toxic and defense-necessary. The actual purpose of these CIA-designed tests was to see how large a percentage of the population could be given chemical-induced cancer. Our spray planes and spray trucks saturated the people of Winnipeg with the carcinogen zinc cadmium sulfide, the same chemical sprayed on many American cities. By calculating the number of people who subsequently came into medical clinics complaining of sore throats, bronchial problems and ringing ears, the test-masters determined that had the chemical not been watered down, they could have induced cancer in one-third of the Winnipeg population. In 1994, Dr. Cole testified before a Senate committee that he feared the military might develop new and genetically engineered pathogens. He could not have known then that our government had been working on such heinous pathogens since the 1960s, when it initiated a special virus cancer program in order to create contagious cancers for biowarfare. By 1996, Dr. Leonard Horowitz confirmed in his book Emerging Viruses that both AIDS and the Marburg-Ebola complex were man-made monstrosities hatched out of America's biowarfare labs. Still today the
Re: [CTRL] Special report: global warming
-Caveat Lector- Greenhouse melts Alaska's tribal ways Wonder how their ancestors coped with this problem the last time this happened. This tribe better check their tribal oral traditions. Since they are still around after many thousands of years...they must have successfully dealt with cyclical warming in the past. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted
-Caveat Lector- The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H.L. Mencken This Mencken quote should be chiseled on the Washington monument or better yet at the entrance of the proposed visitors center being developed for the capitol - certainly it has been the working slogan for the US government for the past 100 years. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Condit the CIA
from website (ciajfk.com) Just a note on Congressman Condit. Did you know that Mr. Condit as a Congressman worked regularly with the Central Intelligence Agency? Yes, he was on the Intelligence Committee of Congress. Today I received a letter from my Congressman saying that George de Mohrenschildt is a very important person. Thanking me for the information I supplied in a 20 minute meeting on George de Mohrenschildt. Bruce Campbell Adamson _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps you are right. But consider, government IS big business, and big business IS government, and it has been so for at least 150 years. They are NOT separate entities. Ever notice, that when a person leaves a high level government, he slides over to a board seat on some huge corporation, and when government positions are recruited, they come from the ranks of large corporations? BB Gore would not be in bed with the oil industry to the degree with Bush/Cheney. Steve A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: What Johnny learns at school]
[Note: Judge Robert Bork in wrote, in Slouching Toward Gomorrah, Now, however, the educational system has become the weapon of choice for modern liberals in their project of dismantling American culture. This use of schools in the dismantling of our culture began with the very beginnings of our communist style collectivist system of education, with Horace Mann, and the creation of teacher colleges. In recent decades the intensity of the attack has been multiplied. Listen to what those who educate our teachers have to say: Formal education carried on subversively, can be in the forefront of building a new moral order... it provides some measure of the physical and social isolation necessary for the incubation process. (Roberta T. Ash; Durkheim's Moral Education Reconsidered: Toward the Creation of a Counterculture. In SCHOOL REVIEW, November, 1971, p. 132) - ... our efforts as educators must not be directed to restoring the past order of morality but to participating in creating a new one... when it is shed there will be a new moral order to take it's place... a counterculture that will burst through the surface. (Roberta T. Ash; Durkheim's Moral Education Reconsidered: Toward the Creation of a Counterculture. In SCHOOL REVIEW, November, 1971, p. 112) - teachers who conform to the traditional institutional mode are out of place. They might find fulfillment as tap-dance instructors, or guards in maximum security prisons or proprietors of reducing salons, or agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation - - but they damage teaching, children, and themselves by staying in the classroom. (NEA book, Schools For the 70's And Beyond). Just what does our modern education system support? Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism and every American public school is a school of humanism. What can the theistic Sunday-schools, meeting for an hour once a week, and teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching? -C. F. Potter (a signer of the Humanist Manifesto) Humanism, A New Religion (1930). The answer I believe, does not lie in reforming the system, or vouchers (he who takes public money will live under government rule because of it), or such schemes as that, ideally it lies in removing your children from the public indoctrination centers, lacking that we MUST counter the indoctrination, teach your children, take the time, some time, any time, every day, to teach your children what is right. Get them into a good Bible believing and teaching Church. Here is a good book that will open your eyes on the subject, one of a number of good books: None Dare Call It Education by John A. Stormer, published by Liberty Bell Press, Florissant, Missouri. John Stormer short bio states - ..a researcher, writer, school superintendent and pastor. It is a must read for all. - Tony] What Johnny learns at school Linda Bowles © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23665 There was a time, let's call them the good old days, when parents could send their little children off to school with full confidence they would be in good hands. Sadly, the good old days are gone. It is appropriate that most of the criticism of government schools deals with academic failure. But that is only half the wretched story. Contrary to what many parents think, most of those responsible for the education of our children are not socially and politically neutral. They are ideologues with an agenda. While a good case could be made to say we are on the verge of being overrun by an avalanche of academic ignorance, it would not be accurate to say our kids are graduating empty headed. Perhaps it's time for another updated review of some of the important things our children are learning in government school classrooms. While Johnny and Jill may not be learning how to read, they are learning that: teachers are underpaid, God is irrelevant, big business is ruining the environment, the Bible says driving an SUV is a sin, rewards should be based on need rather than performance, bisexual individuals are under the command of unstable genes, the Alamo was a great Mexican victory, society rather than the individual is responsible for crime, saving the sucker fish is more important than saving farmers, teachers' pay should be doubled, a diversity of cultures and languages is America's strength, Thomas Jefferson was a racist, two plus two equals whatever, competition is destructive, the right to be wrong makes wrong right, the Boy Scouts are a hate group, Ronald Reagan is responsible for the disappearance of the dinosaurs, the Catholic Church is a hate group, defending yourself promotes violence, the government is the source from which all blessings flow, Southern Baptists are a hate group, high taxes are good for America, equality is more important than excellence, carbon dioxide is poisoning the world, cops hate black people, putting a condom
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 8:12:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A species going extinct ,however, is orders of importance greater, than non-endangered individual birds dying. It's more tragic than the loss of a farm, or a thousand birds. It's irrevocable. Can't adapt, too bad. You are the weakest link, goodby! BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cheney Wants Navy To Foot His Electric Bill!
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/17/politics/17MANS.html?todaysheadlines July 17, 2001 Cheney Calls on Navy to Pay Bill to Light His Home By PHILIP SHENON WASHINGTON---Millions of Americans are struggling to cope with sky-high electricity bills for their homes. Among them, it turns out, is Vice President Dick Cheney, the Bush administration's point man on energy policy, whose home is a 33- room mansion on the leafy grounds of the Washington Naval Observatory. Now, the White House has cited the large and unpredictable energy bills of the vice president's official residence in urging Congress to relieve him of using any of his official budget to pay for electricity. The entire electric bill — an estimated $186,000 this year — would be shifted to the Navy, which owns the house. Mr. Cheney's personal encounter with energy costs came as the White House stepped up efforts today to sell its energy strategy, which has so far not stirred the public as oil prices have fallen from their peaks in the spring. Mr. Cheney and cabinet members fanned out across the country to appeal for support for the strategy in town hall meetings. Mr. Cheney supports the move to spare his official budget the electric bills. Language to transfer the cost is contained in an appropriations bill that is expected to be debated and approved on Tuesday by the House Appropriations Committee, which is controlled by Republicans. Democrats denounced the budget transfer as hypocrisy on the part of Mr. Cheney, who has been accused along with President Bush of doing too little to help consumers cope with a sharp rise in electricity prices in much of the country. They are vowing to block the transfer when the Senate Appropriations Committee, which is controlled by Democrats, considers its version of the bill later this summer. In a report to the appropriations committees, the White House said that "the rationale for the requested transfer of responsibility is based on the fluctuating and unpredictable nature of utility costs and the relative small annual appropriation" for the vice president's residence. A spokesman for Republicans on the House committee, John Scofield, said that the shift was a "minor accounting change" that would simplify federal bookkeeping. "This is a naval facility, so it's not unusual for them to cover the expense," Mr. Scofield said. A Navy spokeswoman had no immediate comment on the issue. The appropriations bill also includes a provision that allows the Navy — on Mr. Cheney's behalf — to accept from corporate donors or others "consumable items, or funds for them," for use at official functions at the residence. The White House is allowed to accept gifts like food or liquor, but such gifts are barred at the vice president's mansion and other official residences as potentially illegal gratuities. The White House said in a letter to the House and Senate committees that the donations would "help relieve the taxpayers of the cost of providing such items." The statement listed "consumable items" as "food, beverage, table centerpieces, flowers or temporary outdoor shelter." Electricity costs for the vice president's residence are now shared by Mr. Cheney's official budget and the Navy, which maintains the 72-acre observatory site that borders Washington's Embassy Row. Electricity costs at the residence have jumped in recent years, more than doubling in the three years since a meter was installed on the property. According to the White House, electricity costs rose from $83,800 in fiscal year 1999 to $136,500 last year to an estimated $186,000 this year. Last year, Congress appropriated $42,600 from the vice president's budget for electricity bills, leaving the Navy responsible for the other $93,900. Asked tonight about comparable figures for the White House, a spokeswoman was not immediately able to come up with them. By transferring all of the vice president's costs to the Navy, the White House said, there would be no need for the administration to return to Congress to ask for emergency appropriations for Mr. Cheney in the event of "an exceptional cold winter or hot summer." Mr. Cheney was traveling today in Pennsylvania to rally support for the administration's energy plan, which calls for a sharp increase in energy production. A spokeswoman for the vice president, Margita Thompson, said plans for a transfer of the electricity bills to the Navy began during the Clinton administration. "This was not Mr. Cheney's idea," Ms. Thompson said. She said it was unclear why electricity bills were rising so sharply this year at the mansion since Mr. Cheney and his wife, Lynne, had done their best to hold down energy use. Electricity use in the mansion was down by about a third this year over the same period last year, when the residence was occupied by Vice President Al Gore. Regulated electricity prices in much of the Washington area have actually
[CTRL] James Bamford USS Liberty
BAMFORD "LIBERTY" ACCOUNT REPUDIATED
Key aspects of author James Bamford's recent account of the 1967 Israeli
attack on the U.S.S. Liberty are being disavowed by some of his own sources.
The Liberty, an American spy ship, was sailing in the Mediterranean Sea off
the Sinai coast when it was attacked on June 8, 1967 by Israeli air and
naval forces towards the end of the 1967 war. There were 34 Americans
killed and 171 wounded. The Israeli government claimed the attack was an
"error"; some U.S. officials, and surviving Liberty crew members, have
contended that the attack must have been deliberate. But why?
In his new bestseller "Body of Secrets," Bamford proposes a motive for the
attack: Israel, he says, was in the process of murdering several hundred
Egyptian prisoners of war at nearby El Arish and wanted to prevent the
Liberty from preserving recorded evidence of the massacre.
But there appears to be no verifiable evidence that such a massacre ever
took place, and Bamford's description of events at El Arish doesn't hold
up. Thus, he attributes to Israeli journalist Gabi Bron a claim that 150
prisoners were executed there. But Bron himself denies that and says
"there were no mass murders."
Meanwhile, Bamford infers that the Israelis must have known that they were
attacking an American ship because, as he discovered, an American
surveillance aircraft was flying overhead at the time and it recorded
Israeli pilots' references to a U.S. flag.
But Bamford's source, the American airman and linguist who recorded those
communications, reached an "opposite" conclusion. Marvin E. Nowicki wrote
in a letter to the Wall Street Journal (16 May 2001) that the Israeli
military forces "prosecuted the Liberty until their operators had an
opportunity to get close-in and see the flag, hence the references to the
flag." The attack, he believes, "was a gross error."
These and other disputed points in Bamford's account are presented in a
fierce critique by Michael Oren in the latest issue of The New Republic
("Unfriendly Fire," 23 July). That article is not available online, but an
earlier article by Oren entitled "The U.S.S. Liberty: Case Closed" appeared
in the Israeli neoconservative journal Azure (Spring 2000) and may be found
here:
http://www.shalem.org.il/azure/9-Oren.htm
James Bamford has done more than any other individual to shed light on the
National Security Agency and to promote public accountability of this
intensely secretive organization, dating back to his landmark 1982 book
"The Puzzle Palace." The list of his reportorial coups to the present day
is long and impressive.
His new chapter on the Liberty itself contains significant new information
and reporting. But his tendentious interpretation of the event is a
salutary reminder that even the best reporters can get it wrong, and that
readers ultimately have to be their own critics.
In response to a number of reviews pointing out defects in his argument
that the Israeli attack was deliberate, Mr. Bamford has lately taken a
somewhat defensive posture. "It's not my job to provide definitive proof,"
he said at a recent book-signing. "I didn't have the time or the money to
look into all of the details."
Rather, he said, he hoped to prompt a congressional investigation into the
matter and to promote declassification of documents such as the transcript
of the recordings made by the American surveillance aircraft.
Documentation on the Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty will be printed
in "Foreign Relations of the United States, 1964-1968, volume XIX, Six-Day
War" which is tentatively scheduled for publication next year.
The National Security Agency and the Defense Department are now conducting
a declassification review of documents for publication in that volume. The
NSA exceeded the nominal deadline for declassification in May, but told the
State Department that its review should be completed by August of this
year. No description of the documents under review has been disclosed
[CTRL] ConditWatch- Lie Detector Lies b/w Condit Scandal Goes Baroque
http://www.counterpunch.org/ Condit in the Headlights Lie Detector Lies We're no fans of the man from Modesto, Gary Condit. But it was troubling to see him being hounded by the cable news shows into taking a polygraph test, and then trashed for using his own polygrapher. Even J. Edgar Hoover knew that the polygraph wasn't any good for detecting deception. He dropped the test for analysis of his own men-but used it to coerce confessions out of civilian suspects. The polygraph was invented in 1915 by a Harvard man called William Moulton Marston, who claimed that his clunky little gizmo could detect lies by measuring blood pressure. Marston's main claim to fame derives not from his machine, but from a doodle he came up with: the cartoon character Wonder Woman. In the past 85 years, the polygraph hasn't changed much from the Marston prototype. The secret of the polygraph is that their machine is no more capable of telling the truth than were the priests of ancient Rome standing knee-deep in chicken parts," says Alan Zelicoff, a physician and senior scientist at the Center for National Security and Arms Control at the Sandia Labs in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Zelicoff gave us this view in an article in the July-August edition of The Skeptical Inquirer. Zelicoff writes that the polygraph administer is a kind of confidence artist or modern day mesmerist who tries to seduce (or scare) his subjects into believing in the power of the machine to catch them in the most minute inconsistency. "The subject, nervously strapped in a chair, is often convinced by the aura surrounding this cheap parlor trick, and is then putty in the hands of the polygrapher, who then launches into an intrusive, illegal and wide-ranging inquisition," Zelicoff writes. "The subject is told from time to time that the machine is indicating deception. It isn't, of course. And he is continuously urged to clarify his answers, by providing more and more personal information." At an arbitrary point, the polygrapher calls off the testing, consults the spools of graph paper and makes an entirely subjective rendering on whether the subject has given a "deceptive response." "Every first year medical student knows that the four parameters measured during a polygraph-blood pressure, pulse, sweat production, and breathing rate-are affected by an uncountable myriad of emotions: joy, hate, elation, sadness, anxiety, depression, and so forth," says Zelicoff. "But there is not one chapter-not one-in any medical text that associates these quantities in any way with an individual's intent to deceive. More importantly, dozens of studies over the past 20 years in psychology departments and medical schools all over the world have shown that the polygraph cannot distinguish between truth-telling and lying." Connoisseurs of the Wen Ho Lee affair will remember that at one point the FBI falsely told the Taiwanese nuclear physicist (accused on spying for the Chinese in Los Alamos) that polygraph tests showed he was lying. Cops play these sorts of tricks all the time, faking forensic reports and then shoving them under the noses of their suspects, shouting that they're proven liars and that they'd best sign a confession right away. The most comprehensive review of the polygraph was conducted in 1983 by the Office of Technology Assessment, a research branch of congress. The OTA concluded, "There is no known physiological response that is unique to deception." The report did note that the CIA and its companions "believe that the polygraph is a useful screening tool." However, OTA concluded that the available research does not establish the scientific validity of the polygraph for this purpose. The best that OTA could say about the polygraph was that it might have some limited validity in "specific criminal incidents." But the report went on to observe that in such cases, "the polygraph test detects deception better than chance, but with error rates that could be significant." As for the supposedly revealing physiological responses the congressional study reported that they could be masked "by physical movement, drugs or other techniques to avoid detection as deceptive." There are numerous ghastly stories of federal employees abused by the machine and its operators. Take the case of Daniel M. King, a 20-year veteran of the US Navy, who was suspected of selling classified information. King was locked up in military prison in solitary confinement for 500 days and subjected to repeated polygraphs. Some of them lasted for as long as 19 hours. A military judge dismissed all the charges against him. A few years ago FBI agent Mark Mallah was given a routine polygraph. The polygrapher, who had only 80 hours experience with the machine, concluded that Mallah had lied. (Zelicoff notes that even barbers must have 1,000 hours of training before getting a license to cut hair.) His life soon transformed into a Kafka
[CTRL] True Words
-Caveat Lector- The individual who dares commit a crime is guilty in a two-fold sense; first, he is guilty against human conscience, and, above all, he is guilty against the State in arrogating to himself one of its most precious privileges. --- Mikhail Bakunin A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] James Bamford USS Liberty
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/2001 4:39:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But Bamford's source, the American airman and linguist who recorded those communications, reached an opposite conclusion. Marvin E. Nowicki wrote in a letter to the Wall Street Journal (16 May 2001) that the Israeli military forces prosecuted the Liberty until their operators had an opportunity to get close-in and see the flag, hence the references to the flag. The attack, he believes, was a gross error. So it appears that what Bamford has proven is that the Israeli are a bit stupid and trigger happy as well. Okay. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Understanding Elites.
-Caveat Lector- An American soldier in a hospital explained how he was wounded: He said, I was told that the way to tell a hostile Vietnamese from a friendly Vietnamese was to shout To hell with Ho Chi Minh! If he shoots, hes unfriendly. So I saw this dude and yelled To hell with Ho Chi Minh! and he yelled back, To hell with President Johnson! We were shaking hands when a truck hit us. (from 1,001 Ways to Beat the Draft, by Tuli Kupferburg). ___ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has LowestIQofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years
-Caveat Lector- BB wrote: -Caveat Lector- Perhaps you are right. But consider, government IS big business, Yes. In a capitalist society where the wealth of the nation is transferred to private enterprises. It doesn't HAVE to be that way. and big business IS government, and it has been so for at least 150 years. Yes. That's because the Founding Finaglers set it up that way. In their time THEY were big business and they set up a mechanism to make them, and keep them rich. They are NOT separate entities. They ARE separate entities. It only depends on who controls the government. Ever notice, that when a person leaves a high level government, he slides over to a board seat on some huge corporation, and when government positions are recruited, they come from the ranks of large corporations? It's called the revolving door. It keeps the Plutocrats and their hirelings in key positions all the time. BB Gore would not be in bed with the oil industry to the degree with Bush/Cheney. Steve This is more than absurd partisan bullshit. Gore sold the biggest chunk of national land to Occidental Petroleum, his family affiliated oil company. Gore and Bush are about as equal as can be when it comes to being pro oil. The difference is Cheney. Joshua2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cheney Wants Navy To Foot His Electric Bill!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/2001 4:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, the White House has cited the large and unpredictable energy bills of the vice president's official residence in urging Congress to relieve him of using any of his official budget to pay for electricity. The entire electric bill âÂâ an estimated $186,000 this year âÂâ would be shifted to the Navy, which owns the house. Now we know how Cheney got so much money in his personal fortune; he's always managed to shift the bills to somebody else. The poor Navy--however will they have enough money to keep picking on the poor little guys on Vieques? Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WHO'S COMING TO BOHEMIAN GROVE?
-Caveat Lector- PROTEST JULY 14, Monte Rio, CA WHO'S COMING TO BOHEMIAN GROVE? The corporate globalizers and their political hench MEN are coming back to Sonoma County. And it will be just MEN, 2,500 men -- no women allowed in this private club -- who will swarm together at Bohemian Grove on Sat., July 14 for their annual rituals of the rich. It's summer camp for the elite, but there's nothing harmless about this gathering. Bohemian Grove is a sinister convergence of many of the world's most dangerous and destructive individuals, from Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and the Bechtels, to Henry Kissinger, Edwin Meese, much of the Hoover Institute board, and the CEOs of such Fortune 500 giants as Dupont, Weyerhauser, PGE, Bank of America, etc., etc., etc. Many top (male) figures in the Bush administration are members of the club. The Bohemian Grove is a 2700-acre retreat in west Sonoma County along the Russian River and is owned by the Bohemian Club of San Francisco. For the past 122 years it has been the site of a two-week summer gathering of highly placed corporate, banking and political figures. The Lakeside Talks at Bohemian Grove are conducted twice daily during the two-week July retreat. Here's a selection from past years: --Richard Nixon --Henry Kissinger on Do we need a foreign policy --George Bush Sr. on Reflections: Past, Present and Future --Richard Cheney (Secretary of Defense under George Bush Sr., current president) on Major Defense Problems of the 21st Century --Fred Hartley (CEO Union Oil) on Oil --James Baker III (Sec of State under Reagan) on The Imperative of American Leadership --Antonin Scalia (justice, U.S. Supreme Court) on Church, State and the Constitution --Edward Teller (scientist and creator of the H bomb) on Nuclear Energy --Elliot Richardson (Secretary of Defense, Attorney General under Nixon) on Defining a New World Order --Christopher DeMuth on The Triumph of the Market and the Politics of Affluence --Casper Weinberger (Secretary of Defense, Reagan Administration) on Rearming America --Edmund Littlefield (CEO of General Electric and Utah Mining) on Enjoying the corporate climb --A.W. Clausen (CEO of Bank of America, then-president of the World Bank) on The Global Economy --Time to Get out of the woods --Fred Henderson III on Commercial Opportunities in Space: the Next Decade A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Special report: global warming
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- Greenhouse melts Alaska's tribal ways Wonder how their ancestors coped with this problem the last time this happened. This tribe better check their tribal oral traditions. Since they are still around after many thousands of years...they must have successfully dealt with cyclical warming in the past. flw I guess you lost the skill of reading comprehension eh? It happens to ideologues. Don't worry. I still love you. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- Can't adapt, too bad. You are the weakest link, goodby! You've been watching too much TV. All those reality shows are nothing but propaganda by the elites intended to convince us that social darwinism is natural, necessary, moral and inevitable. In short, you've been brainwashed. Get over it. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast 50...
-Caveat Lector- If 8 months or less is the acceptable shelf-life around here, then we are limited severely in what we are free to discuss. rolling eyes Samantha In a message dated 7/17/01 1:37:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you'd be so kind, would you please give an estimate of just how LONG you are going to whine about an election which took place 8 months ago, and as you might have heard in whatever metropolis you inhabit, is now over. Six more months? A year? Two years? I'd like to know, so I can ignore your snipings for that length of time. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...
-Caveat Lector- thew just a quick note here george w bush was appointed, and not elected MJ Only some Religious Myrmidons chant such absurdity. thew are you saying th4e supreme court didn't appoint bush? MJ The Court has no such Power nor did they usurp such. Regard$, --MJ If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -- Anatole France A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has LowestIQofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years
-Caveat Lector- BB But consider, government IS big business, Joshua Yes. In a capitalist society where the wealth of the nation is transferred to private enterprises. It doesn't HAVE to be that way. MJ Not in reality, but we can pretend if it makes you feel better. BB and big business IS government, and it has been so for at least 150 years. Joshua Yes. That's because the Founding Finaglers set it up that way. MJ Bullshit. Point to the article, section and clause or amendment that supports your religious nonsense. Joshua In their time THEY were big business and they set up a mechanism to make them, and keep them rich. MJ Again, support your religious regurgitations with article, section and clause. Regard$, --MJ It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all. -- Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him. -- Thomas Jefferson to Francis Gilmer, 1816. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- --- Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what if the actions taken to save these fish also pose possible species endangering consequences for the birds? ...saving the native wildlife should take priority. _ Nakano comments: This isn't about saving fish from extinction... This is about control. The situation at Klamath is getting some publicity, but similar situations are occuring all over the country. In Austin Texas, the construction of a shopping mall was halted when the FEDS invoked the endangered species law to protect a spider from extinction. Various other projects and operations have been prevented or halted to save the golden-throated warbler, snail darters and blind salamanders. In central Texas, ranchers and farmers are being prevented from pumping wells on property that has been in their family for generations going all the way back to Spanish Land Grants which predate Texas becoming a State. The jurisdiction of the Federal Government was originally limited to the 10 mile square of the District of Columbia and to Forts and a few other legitimate government installations. Now the central government is by far the largest landowner in the U.S. More than this, the Feds are extending their tentacles of control to all the rivers in the country...anything which can be construed to be wetlands...and any area where a supposed endangered species is found. They find a frog or a fish that has a slightly different color pattern or some minor difference in appearance, and they declare it a seperate species. They can...and will, find something to declare endangered in any area they decide to extend their control. The endangered species act is simply a vehicle to extend federal authority and control. They could care less about endangered animals. Worse...they could care less about the real hardships and suffering they are causing to a growing number of Americans. Perhaps someday, the People will wake up and realize that the Federal Government is not our friend. Regards to All Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'Crazy Medicine' From Burma Worries Thai Officials
-Caveat Lector- 'Crazy Medicine' From Burma Worries Thai Officials DOI KIU HUNG, Thailand - In the Golden Triangle, Southeast Asia's poppy-growing heartland, drug warlords have begun producing large quantities of a methamphetamine known as crazy medicine that is rivaling the traditional trade in heroin and prompting the U.S. military to train an anti-drug commando unit in Thailand. http://tm0.com/IHT/sbct.cgi?s=80180978i=367124d=1561662 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Agriculture After Global Warming
-Caveat Lector- Do you think that it's possible this entire Global Warming thing has been concocted to stampede the people into accepting serious international authority over their lives? We already have serious international authority over their lives. It's not the UN. It's the multinational corporations. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 3:36:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In short, you've been brainwashed. Get over it. In short, adapt or become a footnote in a history book. Got over feeling guilty about things years ago, and I don't feel guilty about that, either. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Agriculture After Global Warming
-Caveat Lector- Someone Asks Do you think that it's possible this entire Global Warming thing has been concocted to stampede the people into accepting serious international authority over their lives? Nessie chants We already have serious international authority over their lives. It's not the UN. It's the multinational corporations. MJ Corporations -- a creation of Government -- does NOT possess legalized FORCE. I know, I know ... Government Good ... Business Bad. Regard$, --MJ A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to the ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers. -- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Foreward, p. XV. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton
-Caveat Lector- it is an established matter of record that he did so. Cite the quote. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing
-Caveat Lector- People are waking up to our vulnerability to rogue nations with missile capability and a grudge against Uncle Sam plus a rapidly arming Communist China and some 31 other nations all with missiles and all with potential for an accidental or grudge launching. This is Maginot Line thinking. Nobody needs a missile to deliver a nuke or the far more likely CBW. All they need is a suitcase and a drug smuggler's Cessna. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens
This is a waste of taxpayer money and I'm a taxpayer. I'm tired of paying for their welfare, for their hospitalization, for their children's education etc. These people are criminals entering this country illegally why should they be rewarded for their lack of respect for our laws? If they have another amnesty it will encourage more Mexicans to cross the border illegally and they will expect another amnesty. Tito Forwarded Message: Subj: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens Date: 7/17/01 8:13:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CitizensLobby.com) == AN URGENT MESSAGE from www.CitizensLobby.com http://www.CitizensLobby.com July 17, 2001 == (Washington, DC) President Bush is about to grant amnesty to over 3 million illegal criminal aliens. A recent report by Mr. Bush's own officials at the State and Justice Departments has recommended that he approve eventual citizenship to millions of mostly Mexican illegal immigrants. Where is the compassionate conservatism for American citizens whose tax dollars line the pockets of these border-runners, lawbreakers and thieves? After 8 years of Clintonism, Bush may seem right on many issues, but he is wrong on immigration! Our President is about to squash our dignity and rights as American citizens in order to pander to the anti-American agenda of Mexican President Vicente Fox, and to the liberal Democrats in Congress. Did the President and his strategists forget that Al Gore's and Bill Clinton's Citizenship USA program in 1996, which registered over 1.2 million illegal aliens to vote, allowed the vast majority of their fraudulent ballots in 2000 to be cast for liberal Democrats? Help stop this amnesty, and help President Bush understand the virtues of American citizenship. Please join CitizensLobby.com in taking the following grass-roots action: #1 Tell President Bush to reject this illegal alien scheme. Call (800) 303-8332 or (202) 456-1414; Fax: (202) 456-2461; Write: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20500 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also call Timothy Goeglein, WH Public Liaison, at (202) 456-2930, and Karl Rove, chief strategist, at (202) 456-5587. These gentlemen give Bush pillow talk on this issue. #2 Tell Congress to oppose this measure. The Bush plan may eventually encompass an even more radical amnesty proposed by Rep. Luis Gutierrez (H.R. 500), which could grant amnesty to as many as 10 million illegal aliens! Contact your Congressman and tell him to oppose the Bush plan and H.R. 500. Call the congressional switchboard at (800) 648-3516 or (877) 762-8762 or go to http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html . In the Senate, lackey Phil Gramm is pushing for an expansion of a guest worker program, an equally miserable measure that will still grant amnesty to millions of illegal criminal aliens. Contact your Senators at http://www.senate.gov/senators/index.cfm . #3 Visit http://www.CitizensLobby.com and sign our Petition on immigration http://www.citizenslobby.com/petitions.htm#immigration . We will make your voice heard on Capitol Hill and deliver your petition to the House and Senate Judiciary subcommittees on immigration. Help take America back. This is our country. Our rights should not be trampled and demeaned by illegal aliens. Our tax dollars should not fund criminal lawbreaking. If an amnesty does take hold, this will only lead to a greater invasion of illegal immigrants. Please take a stand today. I thank you for your time and consideration. Best regards, Scott A. Lauf Executive Director, CitizensLobby.com # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # == AN URGENT MESSAGE from www.CitizensLobby.com http://www.CitizensLobby.com July 17, 2001 == (Washington, DC) President Bush is about to grant amnesty to over 3 million illegal criminal aliens. A recent report by Mr. Bushs own officials at the State and Justice Departments has recommended that he approve eventual citizenship to millions of mostly Mexican illegal immigrants. Where is the compassionate conservatism for American citizens whose tax dollars line the pockets of these border-runners, lawbreakers and thieves? After 8 years of Clintonism, Bush may seem right on many issues, but he is wrong on immigration! Our President is about to squash our dignity and rights as American citizens in order to pander to the anti-American agenda of Mexican President Vicente Fox, and to the liberal Democrats in Congress. Did the President and his strategists forget that Al Gores and Bill Clintons Citizenship USA program in 1996, which registered over 1.2 million illegal aliens to vote, allowed the vast majority of their fraudulent ballots in 2000 to be cast for liberal Democrats?
Re: [CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 6:35:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is Maginot Line thinking. Nobody needs a missile to deliver a nuke or the far more likely CBW. All they need is a suitcase and a drug smuggler's Cessna. What you say here is true, except for the part about the Maginot Line. If the Germans had respected Belgium's borders, the Maginot line would have worked. Yes, CBW is effective and simple to deliever. Just look at what Plum Island is supposted to have done to New York and New England. And they weren't even trying! But what about those nations have missile capablity and want to use it? It is nice to know that we would have the capability to stop at least some of the incoming. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 6:41:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a waste of taxpayer money and I'm a taxpayer. I'm tired of paying for their welfare, for their hospitalization, for their children's education etc. These people are criminals entering this country illegally why should they be rewarded for their lack of respect for our laws? If they have another amnesty it will encourage more Mexicans to cross the border illegally and they will expect another amnesty. Tito You left out the nice parts about them using our streets and flower beds for toilets, and our cars for spare parts. I worked in downtown L.A. and our company spent 18,000 dollars securing our parking structure just to keep the illiegals away from our vehicles. The majority of the illegals that run across our southern border have, a best, a limited education and no marketable skills. There is only so many job openings for gardeners and people to sell peanuts on street corners. If they want to come to the US, let them do it legally, like the rest of world. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens
This proves to me there isn't much difference between ragging done to Dems and ragging done to Reps . Either way you read this text it sounds like Newspeak. Were are VALUES in this country, they are MIA. == AN URGENT MESSAGE from Citizens.AntiClinton.Lobby.com July 17, 2001 == (Washington, DC) President Clinton is about to grant amnesty to over 3 million illegal criminal aliens. A recent report by Mr.Clinton's own officials at the State and Justice Departments has recommended that he approve eventual citizenship to millions of mostly Mexican illegal immigrants. Where is the "compassionate conservatism" for American citizens whose tax dollars line the pockets of these border-runners, lawbreakers and thieves? After 8 years of Reagan-Bush, Clinton may seem right on many issues, but he is wrong on immigration! Our President is about to squash our dignity and rights as American citizens in order to pander to the anti-American agenda of Mexican President Vicente Fox, and to the liberal Democrats in Congress. snip Help stop this amnesty, and help President Clinton understand the virtues of American citizenship. Please join CitizensLobby.com in taking the following grass-roots action: #1 Tell President Clinton to reject this illegal alien scheme. Call (800) 303-8332 or (202) 456-1414; Fax: (202) 456-2461; Write: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20500 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also call Timothy Goeglein, WH Public Liaison, at (202) 456-2930, and Karl Rove, chief strategist, at (202) 456-5587. These gentlemen give Clinton pillow talk on this issue. #2 Tell Congress to oppose this measure. The Clinton plan may eventually encompass an even more radical amnesty proposed by Rep. Luis Gutierrez (H.R. 500), which could grant amnesty to as many as 10 million illegal aliens! Contact your Congressman and tell him to oppose the Clinton plan and H.R. 500. Call the congressional switchboard at (800) 648-3516 or (877) 762-8762 or go to http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html . In the Senate, lackey Phil Gramm is pushing for an expansion of a "guest worker" program, an equally miserable measure that will still grant amnesty to millions of illegal criminal aliens. Contact your Senators at http://www.senate.gov/senators/index.cfm . #3 Visit http://www.CitizensLobby.com and sign our Petition on immigration http://www.citizenslobby.com/petitions.htm#immigration . We will make your voice heard on Capitol Hill and deliver your petition to the House and Senate Judiciary subcommittees on immigration. Help take America back. This is our country. Our rights should not be trampled and demeaned by illegal aliens. Our tax dollars should not fund criminal lawbreaking. If an amnesty does take hold, this will only lead to a greater invasion of illegal immigrants. Please take a stand today. I thank you for your time and consideration.
[CTRL] DRAC TAX [humour]
-Caveat Lector- DRAC TAX andrew hennessey 7/01 ô¿ô V pistols at dawn back to back with a drac you turn to fire but a psychic attack makes you miss the drac and now you're a snack accident and emergency you stood on a tack but a Drac Quack gives you the fax - they have to amputate bright idea at work but you get the sack from your Drac boss now you're makin trax in a high fashion Drac mac in the pourin' rain play their sacred jazz with a gifted sax but you won't make a dime unless you're a drac, you won't find a note whilst under attax these are the fax stacks of telepathic Dracs imposin' a hateful tax on the dumb monkeys that think they're smart down the bananas and watch our bax for them blueblooded telepathic Dracs. ___ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens
How about human rights? How about fair wages for everyone and not exploiting a person because hes an illegal facing shit jobs no one else wants obviously leaving conditions even worse how about treating people equally? ...Especially hungry and poor children?
[CTRL] Feds Murder US Patriot Ed Pack for Filming WACO
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related New Paradigms Posts at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wildcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feds Murder US Patriot Ed Pack for Filming WACO Date: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:37 PM ~~~ forwarded message ~~~ Feds Murder US Patriot Ed Pack for Filming WACO, and More Let me introduce you to ED PACK, a true American Patriot and hero. Ed and his wife Carol lived in Spartanburg, SC with their children and grandchildren. On the surface, Ed was just a nice guy who made his living tuning pianos and playing his keyboard at country/western music events. But underneath, Ed was a red blooded American Patriot who believed in the Constitution and American sovereignty. Ed felt compelled to research the coming martial law scenario in which America will be stripped of all it's freedoms and forced to come under the United Nations and military dictatorship instead. Ed was a brilliant researcher, a professional computer hacker able to penetrate into deeply covert government websites to obtain classified information. He also had deep internal moles within the government, military and in fact within the White House itself. Such access to sensitive information and it's sources enabled Ed to uncover much of the future agenda of the New World Order for America. Through his internal contacts, Ed was able to warn me three months before the bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City that such an event was scheduled to occur, that the government would be the culprit, and that it would be used to defame America's militias so hated by the US government. And to rush secretly awaiting anti-terrorism legislation through on the wings of public outcry and sentiment ... legislation he warned me that was simply written to put more government controls and restraints on the American people. And on top of all this, Ed was at Waco, painstakingly filming this great American travesty of justice even as it all happened. His raw film footage was then turned over to Linda Thompson of the American Justice Federation. who processed it into the Waco expose documentary that shocked the conscience of the nation. Essentially, Ed was a spy for the American Patriots! And for this, the United States government decreed ED PACK MUST DIE! And I was present to watch as it all happened over the period of two years. Ed Pack was systematically targeted, terrorized, and forced into poverty and hunger as his employers were threatened that their businesses would be destroyed if they continued to hire him. Bullet holes appeared in the windows of his home by night. His car windows were shattered also by government bullets. Rags were stuffed into the shattered glass holes, because Ed was too poor to be able to afford to have these windowpanes properly replaced. One day when I came over to his home to comfort and encourage his family, he took me to see his computer equipment, now ruined. He shared how a deliberately created power surge of incredible dimensions had destroyed all his equipment used for research. (The government has developed technology that enables them to target any home across America and to do this selectively while avoiding other homes.) But the worst was yet to come. In January of 1995, Ed told me, I was in my living room reviewing some secret film footage someone had sent me, when suddenly I felt tremendous burning going through my neck, through and chest. I ran to the kitchen to get a glass of water. But when I returned to the living room the burning continued to intensify. Sensing by this time that it was coming from external sources, I grabbed my shotgun and threw open my front door. And there, under the streetlight, was parked a black government van. On top of the van was a stealth government death weapon known as THE MICRODISH. THE DISH WAS AIMED RIGHT INTO MY LIVING ROOM. When the two men saw my shotgun, they took off into the night, head and taillights off to avoid being followed. I staggered back into my home, now coughing up blood. When I went to my doctor the next day, he said,'Ed, what happened to you? You are full of deep internal burns!' Ed could tell him nothing. I know THE MICRODISH is real! My personal friend and former neighbor, Brigadier General BEN PARTIN, is a top military explosives expert. He was the one that testified in the Oklahoma City bombing hearings that NO NITROGEN FERTILIZER BOMB COULD HAVE HOPED TO DO THE DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED, AS THE GOVERNMENT ALLEGED IT HAPPENED. He also personally developed the stealth death weapon for the military called THE MICRODISH. As I told him about it's use to kill Ed Pack, he remarked at his home in Washington, DC: I personally developed for the military, but I never intended for it to be used this way against innocent civilians! And from the time Ed Pack was
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens
-Caveat Lector- Steve Wilson How about human rights? MJ What 'human rights'? One's like those outlined in the contradictory Declaration of Human Rights? Steve Wilson How about fair wages for everyone and not exploiting a person because hes an illegal facing shit jobs no one else wants obviously leaving conditions even worse how about treating people equally? MJ How do you 'treat people equally' by treating them unequally? Steve Wilson ...Especially hungry and poor children? MJ These persons have MORE rights? Regard$, --MJ From the fact that people are very different it follows that, if we treat them equally, the result must be inequality in their actual position, and that the only way to place them in an equal position would be to treat them differently. Equality before the law and material equality are therefore not only different but are in conflict which each other; and we can achieve either one or the other, but not both at the same time. -- F.A. Hayek A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO
-Caveat Lector- How can someone who pretends to know so much about science believe this crazy alien stuff?? Something funny here. NOT ONE SCIENTIST I KNOW (and I know MANY of the well-known ones) would do anything but laugh at this. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 04:48:49 -0700 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:16:26 +1200 From: Misty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO To: IUFO [EMAIL PROTECTED], AltWritersFiles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Armageddon or New Age? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bret Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO http://www.abovetopsecret.com/dulce.html THE FOLLOWING MATERIAL COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE DULCE (UNDERGROUND) BASE EXISTS. THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THE LABS; ABDUCTEES TAKEN TO THE BASE; PEOPLE WHO ASSISTED IN THE CONSTRUCTION; INTELLIGENCE PERSONAL (NSA,CIA,FBI etc.) AND UFO / INNER-EARTH RESEARCHERS. Located almost two miles beneath Archuleta Mesa on the Jicarilla Apache Indian Reservation near Dulce, New Mexico is an installation classified so secret, its existence is one of the least known in the world. Here is Earth's first and main joint United States Government/alien biogenetics laboratory. Others exist in Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona. The multi-level facility at Dulce goes down for at least seven known levels, and is reported to have a central HUB which is controlled by base security. The level of security required to access different sections rises as one goes further down the facility. There are over 3000 real-time video cameras throughout the complex at high-security locations (entrances and exits). There are over 100 secret exits near and around Dulce. Many around Archuleta Mesa, others to the south around Dulce Lake and even as far east as Lindrith. Deep sections of the complex connect into natural cavern systems. The Grey Species Most of the aliens reside on sub-levels 5, 6, and 7 with alien housing on level 5. The alien species which control the majority of the complex are the Greys, a devious race, now considered an enemy of the New World Order. In the Fifties, the Greys began taking large numbers of humans for experiments. By the Sixties, the rate was speeded up and they began getting careless and self-involved. By the Seventies, their true intentions became very obvious, but the Special Group of the Government still kept covering up for them. By the Eighties, the Government realized there was no defense against the Greys. So, programs were enacted to prepare the public for open contact with non-human ET beings. Perhaps a possible ally, the Reptoids are an enemy species of the Greys, and their relationship is in a state of tension. The Greys only known enemy is the Reptillian Race, and they are on their way to Earth. A man named Thomas C., famous for stealing the so-called Dulce Papers, says that there are over 18,000 short greys at the Dulce facility. He also has stated how a colleague of his had come face-to-face with a 6-foot tall Reptoid which had materialised in his house. The Reptoid showed a great interest in research maps of New Mexico and Colorado which were on the wall. The maps were full of colored push-pins and markers to indicate sites of animal mutilations, caverns, locations of high UFO activity, repeated flight paths, abduction sites, ancient ruins, and suspected alien underground bases. Some forces in the Government want the public to be aware of what is happening. Other forces (The Collaborators) want to continue making whatever deals are necessary for an Elite few to survive the conflicts. Cloning Humans (by Humans) for Slave Hybrids The Secret Government cloned humans by a process perfected in the world's largest and most advanced bio-genetic research facility, Los Alamos. The elite humans now have their own disposable slave-race. Like the alien Greys, the US Government secretly impregnated females, then removed the hybrid fetus after a three month time period, before accelerating their growth in laboratories. Biogenetic (DNA Manipulation) programming is then instilled - they are implanted and controlled at a distance through RF (Radio Frequency) transmissions. Many Humans are also being implanted with brain tranceivers. These act as telepathic communication channels and telemetric brain manipulation devices. This network was developed and initiated by DARPA. Two of the procedures were RHIC (Radio-Hypnotic Intercerebral Control) and EDOM (Electronic Dissolution of Memory). They also developed ELF and EM wave propagation equipment which affect the nerves and can cause nausea, fatigue, irritability, even death. This research into
Re: [CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Jul 01, at 21:44, Bill Howard wrote: But what about those nations have missile capablity and want to use it? It is nice to know that we would have the capability to stop at least some of the incoming. The problem is that all it takes is one missile getting through to destroy a city. The 'enemies' would just make more missiles and use some as decoys. Breaking the ABM treaty will simply start another costly arms race. It will be good for the defense contractors, everyone else will suffer. We will end up being much less safe than before and we will have a false sense of security which may lead to disaster. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Boeing 747-400 Used In Anti-Gun Advertisement]
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:52:41 -0700
To: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: E.J. Totty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: We need to answer the Brady Campaign.
Matt,
Please give this as wide a dissemination as you can.
Thank you in advance.
ET
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: E.J. Totty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Boeing Company corporate image.
Cc: Steven Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To Whom it may concern,
The following website is using outline images of the Boeing 747-400
in its advertising:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/activism/heston/movie.asp
I would like to know whether the Boeing Company explicitly approves
of these images, or if they were used without The Boeing Company's
permission.
I would also like to know if The Boeing Company approves of the
message being delivered as well.
As an employee of The Boeing Company, I find it ethically repugnant
that such image utilization is used to convey what is known as a
deceitful and corrupt depiction. That such a message is allowed to be
carried on the Boeing image is despicable. Everyday we are reminded
of the idea of integrity, intellectual honesty, and pride in the
company's working relationship with the rest of the world. If this
matter is allowed to go unchallenged, it will severely tarnish the
company's image.
Most respectfully,
E.J. Totty
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a whole lot more. If it's music, we have it, or we can get it (or else!).
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