Re: HP DeskJet 890C: poor performance on Linux vs. Windows
On Sat, Aug 01, 1998 at 12:47:23AM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: > > PS to all on debian-user: With regret, I do NOT wish to get involved in > person-to-person discussions about the details of getting this right on each > individual's printer etc. It is potentially an involved and drawn-out process > and I do not have the time to get drawn into it. Apologies in advance, but I > do > hope that the above is helpful to some of you. Don't worry. I just want to add that with aladdin and HP-660C printer, the uniprint driver (*.upp) is a must, because it gets the color right and doesn't waste your ink. I'll not discuss this with you :) Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
X11 installation problem
Hi! A few days ago I installed Debian 2.0 and today I tried to install X11R6 (3.3.2.3). When I started preinst.sh I get the message: "You appear to have an a.out system. a.out binaries are not available for this release." Please help. I'm very new to this OS. Thanks a lot! jae _ Get your free personalized email address at http://www.MyOwnEmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Unidentified subject!
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:43:21PM -0700, Tim Christensen wrote: > How do I create or edit paths? For instance, how do I put the X window > system directory in my path? export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH for example. Put something to this effect in your ~/.bash_profile. See also /etc/profile. Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: HP DeskJet 890C: poor performance on Linux vs. Windows
On 31-Jul-98 Martin Weinberg wrote: > I used GIMP to view the original images and convert to postscript. > They were both jpeg and gif originally. Similar results were > obtained by converting with XV. > > Hm. Is there a better way to do the conversion? That is similar to how how I would do it too, except that I use ImageMagic. However, now you have a double conversion going on: jpeg|gif -> PS -> HPwhatever. There is scope for degradation at each stage. The great merit of using a custom driver is that it has been written with the express purpose of doing a good job for each specific graphic file type and the specific hardware it was written for (e.g. jpeg->HPDJ890C, gif->HPDJ890C). Therefore a lot of the hard work of discovering exactly what compensations are required has already been done by the manufacturer. There is nothing magic about Windows in this context: it is merely a channel by which the printer code generated by the driver reaches the printer. The real tuning required for the printer is built in to the driver. To return to the Linux problem. Though I use a native PS printer for production B&W work I also have an Epson Stylus Color 600 for colour (mostly for digital photography: the cat looks great). For jpeg.etc->PS I use "convert" which actually is a part of ImageMagic but by using it standalone you have direct access to its options. I have also tried the GIMP and I think I marginally prefer using convert. For the moment we'll suppose we have a good PS version of the image; but we'll have to come back to this supposition. For PS->Epson I use ghostscript 5.10 which has a lot of different drivers for the Epson Stylus Color series. I haven't used an HP colour printer so can't comment directly on that. However, under /ghostscript/5.10/doc/hpdj you will find files README.hpdj and gs-hpdj.txt, which suggest that only HPDJ explicitly supported by the hpdj drivers go up to 855C, not 890C though it claims that no PCL3 printer has failed to work. What does seem to be missing with the the HPDJ drivers is the facility which is provided with the Stylus Color drivers: you can edit the colour transformation maps yourself in the .upp files and (less so) in the older DEVICE=stcolor drivers -- AND you may like to note that the new .upp drivers are designed to be "universal" though in a development stage at present. Read the WHOLE of /ghostscript/5.10/doc/drivers.txt to see what is going on -- it's a bit confusing. A relevant extract (re .upp files) is the following: QUOTE uniprint -- ESC/P, ESC/P2 and PCL/RTL-Driver by Gunther Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] = This driver is intended to _become_ a unified printer driver. If you consider it ugly, please send me your suggestions for improvements. The driver will be updated with them. Thus the full explanation of the drivers name is: Ugly- -> Updated- -> Unified-Printer-Driver But probably you want to know, something about the functionality: At the time of this writing uniprint drives: NEC Pinwriter P2X (24Pin B/W Impact printer, ESC/P-Style) Several Epson Stylus Color Models (ESC/P2-Style) HP-Deskjet 550c (Basic HP-RTL) Canon BJC 610 It can be configured for various other printers _without_ recompilation and offers uncompressed (== ugly) SUN-Rasterfiles as another format, but this format is intended for testing purposes rather than real use. = UNQUOTE You might like to try this option. Now, here comes some theory (very incomplete since it's really only a summary of experience). First of all, the jpeg.etc->PS conversion may be more or less good. You have some control over this according to which converter you choose and what options you use for it. More later. Secondly, the PS->HPwhatever (probably PCL) may involve a transformation from RGB (Red-Green-Blue) colour coordinates to CMYK (Cyan-Magenta-Yellow-Black); PS->EpsonSTC certainly does. This is where a lot of grief comes in, because the jpeg.etc->PS translation is RGB, and the relation between RGB and CMYK is not mathematically precise. The fundamental difference is that RGB is for "emitting" colours, i.e. "R" shines Red (as on your monitor) and you see Red. CMYK is for "absorbing" colours. In theory CMY are complementary to RGB so that an ink which absorbs C will reflect R. In theory. So CMYK are for printing on paper and viewing by reflected light as opposed to RGB which are for viewing by emitted light. In practice the complementary relationship is both physiologically inexact and dependent on both the quality of the inks and on the quality, absorbency and "runnability" (i.e. how far does the ink diffuse into it) of the paper. Therefore your control of the results by mere calculation is loose, and you need to experiment. There is a further complication: again in theory a saturated combination of C+M+Y absorbs everyt
Unidentified subject!
How do I create or edit paths? For instance, how do I put the X window system directory in my path? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: How do I mount a FAT32 partition?
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > How do I mount a FAT32 partition on a hamm system? FAT16 has worked out of > the box for years, and I know there is a way to mount NTFS partitions > read only, but I havent seen anything on FAT32. Any pointers appreciated. Upgrade your kernel to 2.0.34 or 2.0.35. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Manpages missing?
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 11:10:21PM +, Paul Miller wrote: > I was wondering in what package I might find the man pages for the C > subroutines, eg. > strtol, isascii, and the like. > > I have the libstdc++-dev package installed but the man pages are not there. Why do you expect the C manpages in a c++ development package? Please install manpages-dev, they are all there. Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Linux vs. Windows
On Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 08:52:52PM -0400, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > The only problem along these lines with Windows is that it insists on > rewriting the MBR when you install it. This can really throw someone > who's not aware of it, and this practice is dead wrong - no OS should > ever do that without at least asking. I've never had any other problem > as far as Windows getting along with other OSes. Yeah, and Win95 setup *crashes* when you have virus warning activated in BIOS... (virus warning tries to protect MBR). Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Manpages missing?
I was wondering in what package I might find the man pages for the C subroutines, eg. strtol, isascii, and the like. I have the libstdc++-dev package installed but the man pages are not there. Thanx. -- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Mouse died after PCMCIA setup
I figured out the problem; still working on the solution. Yes, a person can test the modem by entering "echo ATDT555 > /dev/ttyS[x]". This test verified that my modem is on the same com port as my mouse (/dev/ttyS3). Then I found the /var/run/stab file; I tried to edit it, changing the /dev/ttyS3 to /dev/ttyS4, but after a restart, the file had reverted back, so apparently that's just a "here's how it's configured" file, not a "here's how it will be configured" file. So, any suggestions on how I tell the PCMCIA modem to use a different com port? Thanks. At 05:24 PM 7/31/1998 -0500, you wrote: >I've got a hamm system. I've had the PCMCIA services and the mouse working >at the same time, but this was several wipe/reinstalls ago (I'm still early >in the learning stage). > >The last reinstall I did I forgot to enable PCMCIA during the install. So I >put it on the back burner. > >Finally I've gotten X working (minimally), so I decided to download/install >Netscape (via ethernet not PCMCIA modem), and while in dselect, I saw the >PCMCIA package and remembered that I needed to get that also. > >After the reboot that the PCMCIA package suggested (because of a replaced >kernel or something - 2.0.34 w/PCMCIA for 2.0.34), everything came back up >except for the mouse. I ran gpmconfig, and everything seems fine, except >the mouse doesn't work (no visible cursor at least). > >Win95 reported my PCMCIA modem as being on COM3 (this was before I wiped >Win95 off); my mouse is on /dev/ttyS1 (which I understand to be what DOS >calls COM2) which is where it belongs. > >Any clues? As I was writing this, I had the thought that maybe Debian >somehow moved the modem to com2, which is clobbering the mouse. How would I >check this? > >Also, in DOS, I could "echo atdt555 > com2" at the DOS prompt to see if >the modem dials that number, then "echo atz > com2" to hang it up. Is there >anything comparable I can do in Linux, or do I need a terminal program such >as minicom to do any manual dialing/testing? > >Thanks. >=== >Kent West | Technology Support/Customer Service >| >Abilene Christian University | Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 >| >ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >Abilene, TX 79699-9005| Ham:KC5ENO, General >| >=== > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: How do I mount a FAT32 partition?
FAT32 requires a patch to the Linux kernel to support it. So if you MUST do it, you have to get a new kernel. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
How do I mount a FAT32 partition?
How do I mount a FAT32 partition on a hamm system? FAT16 has worked out of the box for years, and I know there is a way to mount NTFS partitions read only, but I havent seen anything on FAT32. Any pointers appreciated. Mike -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Trouble With Simple Thing.
> Hello, > > I'm sorta new to Debian.. and I was wondering if anyone could help > me with limiting users to their own directory. I've read docs about it, > but still can't get it working. Anyone help? Thanks. > I am not sure but I think giving them rbash will keep them in their own directory. It might also have some undesirable effects in your case. Please tell me (and the list) about your findings. Thank you. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Mouse died after PCMCIA setup
I've got a hamm system. I've had the PCMCIA services and the mouse working at the same time, but this was several wipe/reinstalls ago (I'm still early in the learning stage). The last reinstall I did I forgot to enable PCMCIA during the install. So I put it on the back burner. Finally I've gotten X working (minimally), so I decided to download/install Netscape (via ethernet not PCMCIA modem), and while in dselect, I saw the PCMCIA package and remembered that I needed to get that also. After the reboot that the PCMCIA package suggested (because of a replaced kernel or something - 2.0.34 w/PCMCIA for 2.0.34), everything came back up except for the mouse. I ran gpmconfig, and everything seems fine, except the mouse doesn't work (no visible cursor at least). Win95 reported my PCMCIA modem as being on COM3 (this was before I wiped Win95 off); my mouse is on /dev/ttyS1 (which I understand to be what DOS calls COM2) which is where it belongs. Any clues? As I was writing this, I had the thought that maybe Debian somehow moved the modem to com2, which is clobbering the mouse. How would I check this? Also, in DOS, I could "echo atdt555 > com2" at the DOS prompt to see if the modem dials that number, then "echo atz > com2" to hang it up. Is there anything comparable I can do in Linux, or do I need a terminal program such as minicom to do any manual dialing/testing? Thanks. === Kent West | Technology Support/Customer Service | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
MCA debian Thinkpad
hi I am a debian-user-wannabe because I have a thinkpad 720 4mb ram hd 120mb esdi and I am tired of looking for a linux distribution that works with MCA/ESDI I found a web page that have a bootdisk and a modules drivers disk and a patch disk and have a story about this person and the installation of debian 1.3 (http://mojo.calyx.net/~bri/projects/debian/MCA/) with this disks all works until I reach the point of install the base system but I do not find the 1.2 or 1.3 debian base disks set anywhere in the web or ftp server, with the 2.0 base disks set that I found in www.debian.org don't find my esdi hd either so if anyone can help me please do it, I am having a bad time here! thank you very much Alan Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Changing hamm?
stable-updates are hamm bugfixes. The new kernel will probably appear there first. Along w/ other updates. Besides, you can get your own kernel source and use kernel-package to build it. Many of us never use the Debian kernel, we make our own. sid is the directory where a new Debian goes before it makes it into a distribution directory -- like a holding bin, ignore it. Things like ports to hardware and what not appear there. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Changing hamm?
Is all development work going into slink now? I'd really like to get a couple of new things, kernel-source-2.0.35 in particular, but I don't want to upset my very stable hamm system with slink stuff. Seems like for "bo" when a new kernel came out it was only about a week or so and you could find it all Debianized up in bo. Kernel 2.0.35 has been out for a couple of weeks at least and still nothing in hamm. Why? Is this related to the fact that hamm was just so recently released? And what are the /debian/dists/sid and /debian/dists/stable-updates directories? Not complaining, just curious. Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Debian Install problem
I've downloaded the latest Debian release via ftp. I used my RedHat 5.1 machine and ncftp to download it onto my Win95 machine mounted via Samba. All went fantastic. I created the boot disks (rescue,drivers,root) and booted the machine. Blew away RedHat (I'm learning so I keep installing and blowing them away. Good practice I think), partitioned the drive and swap space. Now what do I do. I installed RedHat via ftp and that was kool. I only have a 500 mg hard drive so I can't copy it all to there. I have a Sony CDU31a cdrom drive which I have touble getting any flavor to recognize. (I was finally successfull with RH5.1 tho.) Question: Is there any way I can either install via ftp or from my Win95 shared directory? If not, how do I burn this image onto a cd that Debian will read. I tried burning a cd for RedHat but the EZ software burnt it with Julian format and not the RockRidge or whatever it is that Linux likes. All of the files were there, but in 8.3 name format, no long filenames. Come to think of it, even if I get a cd burned, will Debian talk to a Sony cdu31a drive? - Gary - Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Debian install problem
I've downloaded the latest Debian release via ftp. I used my RedHat 5.1 machine and ncftp to download it onto my Win95 machine mounted via Samba. All went fantastic. I created the boot disks (rescue,drivers,root) and booted the machine. Blew away RedHat (I'm learning so I keep installing and blowing them away. Good practice I think), partitioned the drive and swap space. Now what do I do. I installed RedHat via ftp and that was kool. I only have a 500 mg hard drive so I can't copy it all to there. I have a Sony CDU31a cdrom drive which I have touble getting any flavor to recognize. (I was finally successfull with RH5.1 tho.) Question: Is there any way I can either install via ftp or from my Win95 shared directory? If not, how do I burn this image onto a cd that Debian will read. I tried burning a cd for RedHat but the EZ software burnt it with Julian format and not the RockRidge or whatever it is that Linux likes. All of the files were there, but in 8.3 name format, no long filenames. Come to think of it, even if I get a cd burned, will Debian talk to a Sony cdu31a drive? - Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Need help connecting to network in new 2.0 installation
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Ben Turner wrote: : During a new Debian 2.0 installation, the ne2000-compatible ethernet adapter : driver installed without complaint, and the TCP/IP numbers were correct. : Yet, when linux boots, it gives the message "SIOCADDRT:Network is : unreachable." What can I do to troubleshoot this? : I know that the network connection should be good, since it worked properly : under win95 before I erased it. Thanks in advance. I know you said all the numbers are correct, but make sure the gateway and your box are in the same subnet - I've seen people subtly typo the netmask or gateway and go crazy tracking it down ... You can also run all the commands in /etc/init.d/network from the command line, which helps with troubleshooting. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Need help connecting to network in new 2.0 installation
During a new Debian 2.0 installation, the ne2000-compatible ethernet adapter driver installed without complaint, and the TCP/IP numbers were correct. Yet, when linux boots, it gives the message "SIOCADDRT:Network is unreachable." What can I do to troubleshoot this? I know that the network connection should be good, since it worked properly under win95 before I erased it. Thanks in advance. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Smail routers error
Hello, I have 2 Debian machines with smail 3.2 Everything worked fine for 3 months, but suddenly few days ago stopped. When I try to mail to snickers.ek.univ.gda.pl from voruta.ek.univ.gda.pl I get an error Xdefer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] reason: (ERR164) router inet_hosts: BIND server failure: : Connection timed out The same error is on the snickers mailing to voruta. It is very strange, because mail to other internet hosts works perfectly and worked perfectly to these hosts as well few days ago. There was NO configuration, or some changing in all system, so I have no idea why suddenly mail systems started to "do not like" each other. there is my /etc/smail/routers config: inet_addrs: driver=gethostbyaddr, transport=smtp; check_for_local, fail_if_error inet_hosts: driver=bind, transport=smtp; defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames, gateways=uu.net:uucp:+:cunyvm.cuny.edu:bitnet Thank's very much for help -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Dell Laptop install problems
Hey, I'm trying to install Debian 2.0 on a Dell Latitude XP laptop with Advanced Port Replicator. It gets to 'Loading linux' then hangs after it is done loading the kernel. Anyone else seen this problem, and if so, do you have a solution? I'm using the newest set of disk images off of ftp.debian.org. Thanks guys! Brian -- Brian Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org/~bma/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer - http://www.debian.org "People who don't understand UNIX are doomed to recreate it, badly." -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive
Eugene Sevinian wrote: > > Hi Tom, > I have read from this mini-howto (point 4.) the following: > "...(Note: Contrary to what the man page states, > the command "mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdb1" doesn't check for bad blocks > under any of Red Hat, Debian or Slackware.)..." > > Is it true for Debian? > Yes, it does check for bad blocks on my machine (hamm) with either syntax mkfs.ext2 -c /dev/hdxxOR mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdxx of the command, as long as the -c is used. Not sure I understand what the author is talking about there. Tom -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
secure lynx?
Has anyone made a Debian package of lynx with encryption (weak or strong)? I don't see anything like this on us or non-us mirrors. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
NE2000 configuration
Hello everyone. A few weeks ago someone responded to my question concerning how to determine what I/O settting to use to configur my NIC. In my haste, I deleted the message which gave the linux command to report this information. Now I'm installing hamm and although I remember what settings I used last time, I can't seem to get them to work. Can someone forward me the information concerning the command and also explain to me what's involved in adding the settings after the initial installation? TIA Cristov Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Linus Torvalds interview
My experience also with Windows 95 has been pretty solid. I've had months of uptime with Windows 95 with the only problems being occasional GPF errors that close all open Netscape windows. But other than that it's been pretty rock solid for me as long as I haven't installed library type software or big software installations that play with the registry a lot and dlls. With Windows 98, I haven't had a single GPF error with Netscape, and pretty much everything I've run under it has been rock solid and without incident. Also, I removed my 64MB SDRAM DIMM and put in 16MB EDO for a day so (it's a long story why) and I hate to say it but Windows 98 ran very smooth on my P166mmx with 16mb, faster than my very lean compiled kernel Debian 2.0 with bone stock wmaker, because when I had Netscape mail and a few Navigator windows open there was little to no swapping to disk with Win98 (or the effect was transparent to me) but things were not so smooth with Debian 2.0/Xfree/wmaker. WinNT IS NOT SMOOTH with 16mb at all, and I don't know why this is because it's supposed to be a 'higher performance' OS than 95/98, right? As a matter of fact, NT for me has been less stable than 95/98, as I've had the blue screen of death several times with NT. I should mention though that I've broken 95' very badly by doing things like upgrading from DirectX5 to 5.2. Doing that rendered an image browser the had been working perfectly till then inoperable, and it would not uninstall properly nor reinstall, very strange behavior indeed. But of course, taking 2 hours to reinstall 95' fixes that, or any problem. I now use Debian 99.9% of the time though because it's so much nicer overall. I'm able to get work done much faster and it's much more manageable than 95'/98' and has been 100% reliable for me. Whenever something is screwed up, it always turns out to be my fault with Debian, which I like. Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:03:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a "win95" system? > > Yes. In fact, I swapped machines around the HDs to test a theory of > mine. > > > That "fabulous, great, decent OS" loses it's mind! You see, all > > information about the hardware is kept in the registry files. When the > > Id's of the old MB (in the registry) don't match the new Id's of the new > > MB, all H-LL breaks loose. > > That hell, of course, is that Windows is updating the drivers supplied > by the manufacturer(s) for their motherboard. One reboot is all that is > needed. I know, like I said, I did it. Swapped a whole machine around the > HDs. One machine had Win95 on it, another had Win95 and WinNT. > > Am I advocating Windows? No. What I am doing is quelling some serious > BULLSHIT here. > > > In contrast, Linux boots up without so much as a single hick-up and runs > > fine! > > This is also true since I've does the "swap" of a machine from around a > HD with Linux. > > > You are right, the time is irrelevent, however, where is the "peer" review > > of > > the inner workings of Win95/98? I get extremely irritated when an > > application > > hoses the whole nine yards and I lose hours of labor to the "blue screen of > > death". I've yet to lose anything within Linux. Apparently, the "Win95 > > advocates" think that it is ok for the OS to lock down or freeze. Perhaps > > they > > are numbed by the inability to fix the problem(s). > > Apparently you're doing something wrong. Because this *LINUX* advocate > has a Win95/WinNT machine at home that rivals the uptimes of my Linux box. > I have yet to lose data on that machine because of the OS, same as my Linux > box. In fact, at one time I ran on a single machine OpenDOS, Win95, WinNT, > OS/2 and Linux (Slackware). I had no problems with any of them. > > So, no, I don't think it is right that the OS dies unexpectedly. My > experience is different than yours. Wonder why that is? I don't think I am > gifted with any knowledge that you're not. > > -- > Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my > http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my > CC: from news not wanted or appreciated| skills and labor, not my opinions! > ---+- > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
CD Creation in Windows
Is it possible to create a debian CD under windows with the CD images posted on the web? Documentation discusses about changing the extension to .iso but my windows box would not recognize the format. Are there any freeware/shareware apps. for windows to do this? Thanks in advance. Dinesh More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
libXmu.so.6 "can't load"
Hi All, Just upgraded from bo to hamm. Got a problem with libXmu. xlib6g and xlib6g-dev are installed. /usr/X11R6/lib is in ld.so.conf. I've run ldconfig, rebooted, the sym. links exist. When loading vi or netscape I get a "can't load library libXmu.so.6" error. Any ideas or pointers to specific docs would be great! Thanks in advance! Mike A cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be terrific. Thanks! +--+ | Mike Nachlinger (408) 446-9914 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Apres Ski Club 1-888-APRESGO www.apres.org | +--+ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: SPI maintains Debian?
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Seen on COLA > > Message ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ... > Our work is supported in part by SPI, who maintain the Debian > GNU/Linux distribution. > ... > > I thought SPI "maintained" copyrights and the like for Debian - I was > not aware they were involved to the extent implied by this sentence. Is > there information available which clearly delineates the relationship > between Debian and SPI? > > (I'm not (too) paranoid, just confused) > It is my understanding that SPI agreed to donate $1000 to the GNOME effort. I believe that it is this contribution that supports the above statement. I admit that the reference to Debian being maintained by SPI is a bit confusing, but my reading of the SPI charter (published by Ian J a while back) indicates that all Debian Developers are "members" of SPI. This may be the reason for the "cart before horse" statement above. (It could be argued that Debian maintains SPI ;-) Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Linus Torvalds interview
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:03:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a "win95" system? Yes. In fact, I swapped machines around the HDs to test a theory of mine. > That "fabulous, great, decent OS" loses it's mind! You see, all > information about the hardware is kept in the registry files. When the > Id's of the old MB (in the registry) don't match the new Id's of the new > MB, all H-LL breaks loose. That hell, of course, is that Windows is updating the drivers supplied by the manufacturer(s) for their motherboard. One reboot is all that is needed. I know, like I said, I did it. Swapped a whole machine around the HDs. One machine had Win95 on it, another had Win95 and WinNT. Am I advocating Windows? No. What I am doing is quelling some serious BULLSHIT here. > In contrast, Linux boots up without so much as a single hick-up and runs > fine! This is also true since I've does the "swap" of a machine from around a HD with Linux. > You are right, the time is irrelevent, however, where is the "peer" review of > the inner workings of Win95/98? I get extremely irritated when an application > hoses the whole nine yards and I lose hours of labor to the "blue screen of > death". I've yet to lose anything within Linux. Apparently, the "Win95 > advocates" think that it is ok for the OS to lock down or freeze. Perhaps they > are numbed by the inability to fix the problem(s). Apparently you're doing something wrong. Because this *LINUX* advocate has a Win95/WinNT machine at home that rivals the uptimes of my Linux box. I have yet to lose data on that machine because of the OS, same as my Linux box. In fact, at one time I ran on a single machine OpenDOS, Win95, WinNT, OS/2 and Linux (Slackware). I had no problems with any of them. So, no, I don't think it is right that the OS dies unexpectedly. My experience is different than yours. Wonder why that is? I don't think I am gifted with any knowledge that you're not. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my CC: from news not wanted or appreciated| skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Is the diskless boot possible in debian ?
Well firstly, what is that error in the log file? Can you be more specific? To read your files on the win95 partition, the command is mount -t msdos /dev/ /mnt (can be almost any directory you want). For example, say you have an IDE disk and Windows is on your first primary partition. Type: $ mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt If during the install of Debian you added vfat support then you should replace 'msdos' in the above with 'vfat' so that long file names aren't truncated. One problem with your ppp attempts may be that you didn't add ppp support during the install of debian. If are looking for some communications software to test your modem, you can grab minicom. It's a Debian package, find it at www.debian.org. In general with PPP and Debian, since they made the setup so friendly the're only a few things that could stop you from connecting that I can think of. 1) PPP support is not built in the kernel or not loaded as a module. 2) Your serial port's initialization failed. 3) Your modem's initialization string isn't right. 4) Your trying to connect as a user and aren't a member of group 'dip'. Solution is to do: as root, type 'adduser your_user_name dip'. If you think Linux is hard to install, try OpenBSD (aaaggghh :) Good luck, Christopher Christopher Wesneski wrote: > > I am having considerable trouble setting up my modem to connect to my ISP. > I'm pretty > sure I have the serial port configured but every time I run pppd via pon I > get an > error in the log file. I've read all the HOWTOs and anything else I can find > (since > no one on this list will ever help you if you don't) and I am still as lost > as I was > going in. In one of the HOWTOs they mention kermit and another program to > test (not > connect) the modem. I only have the base installed so I need to know, > 1) what am I supposed to use to test that the modem is working? > > 2) is it a pert of the base install package? > a) if not where can I get it and what do I need to do to get it running? > > 3) how can I mount(?) my win95 partition so I can access the files while in > Linux (and vice-versa)? It is a real pain to have to keep switching OSs to > read this > lists mail and browse docs online and then try something and switch back and > .. > well you get the picture. > > I can see why people complain about the learning curve. It's not a matter of > getting > up it, it's just when you do get to a point where ignorance overcomes you and > no one > is willing to help it gets very frustrating. I'm almost ready to switch back > to > Windows (gasp) full-time. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: where...
Mario, in general whenver a lib package exists, a corresponding lib-dev package exists w/ the header files and other items needed to compile against the lib. Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 05:36:35PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: > > > Once again i need help. Where is ssl.h! It used to be in ssleay but not > > anymore. I've looked but in the non-US there is no COntents file so i > > really can't find the darn thing. Can someone give me a hand. > > You are right, there's no Contents there... (/me thinks a bug should be > filed against nonus.debian.org) > > The file is probably in libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb, in non-US: > > $ dpkg --contents hamm/binary-i386/libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb | grep ssl.h > -rw-r--r-- root/root 46150 1998-07-06 07:48 usr/include/ssl/ssl.h > > Marcelo > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Debian 2.0 SCSI Install Problem
I downloaded the Official Debian 3 CD images and built a set of three CDs When I put the Debian 2 Binary CD in my machine and reboot the system boots from the CDROM and loads various drivers. It gets to the point when it tries to load the drivers for my SCSI card (an Adaptec 2940UW) and then it gets some error (timeout I think) and goes into a loop trying this over and over again. I booted with the Official 1.3 CD and it correctly identified the SCSI card and I was able to install a skeleton system. I then tried to ugrade this 1.3 system to 2.0 and the cd_autoup.sh command has a couple of problems. Firstly on the CD it does not have the eXecute file permission set so it will not run. I copied it to the /tmp directory, ran chmod 555 against it, modified one line which points to the upgrade packages, and ran it. This time it ran but failed with a pacgae missing error. I think that it was something like libg++-2.7 that is missing. Any help with either of these problems will be gratefully received. Regards Ian Ian Stirling Hursley Mid-range and Distributed Systems MP100, IBM UK Labs, Winchester, England, SO21 2JN Tel: Ext: + 44 1962 818146 Int: 248146 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: linux software
Geoff Brimhall writes: > > Create a binary file, that contains the bit you want. > > The on the shell command line, execute the following command: > > cat binary_file_name > /dev/lp1. > > or whichever device is your printer. If you store the word as a sequence of 10 bytes, you could simulate a serial port with appropriate timing loops. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Linus Torvalds interview
Please allow me my two cents of experience with Lost95 (if they don't 'Win', they 'lost') C.J.LAWSON writes: > > On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote: > > Well, Windows is a decent OS if you know how to use and configure it right > > (and work around its many bugs). If you can't deal with bugs in an OS you > > don't deserve to be allowed to use a computer, or even own one. Windows > I wonder if you would have the same attitude if you loose vital data on a > computer crash. You sound as if you can predict when the crash is going to > occur (I have seen windoze freeze a few minutes after a systems reset) Ever try replacing a Motherboard on a "win95" system? That "fabulous, great, decent OS" loses it's mind! You see, all information about the hardware is kept in the registry files. When the Id's of the old MB (in the registry) don't match the new Id's of the new MB, all H-LL breaks loose. In contrast, Linux boots up without so much as a single hick-up and runs fine! Why would one want to change the MB? MEMORY! I found that newer memory DIMMs are not recognized properly by the older BIOS'es. Example, a 64Meg DIMM is reported as a 16Meg DIMM or a 128Meg DIMM is reported as a 8Meg DIMM. Upgrading the MB to a newer one fixes the problem! > > > took many years to develop into its present state of glory and bugs alike. > > Do you think MS took only 5 minutes to design and implement the UI? Or > > FAT32? I don't think so. > Not that Trovalds took any longer ... I think we are missing the point > here. The length of time one takes to achieve a task is irrelevant > (particularly so when there are standards which have to be met/adhered > to). The fact that I take two weeks to assemble the components of a > computer 'does not' make it better than one assembled in two hours by > default. You are right, the time is irrelevent, however, where is the "peer" review of the inner workings of Win95/98? I get extremely irritated when an application hoses the whole nine yards and I lose hours of labor to the "blue screen of death". I've yet to lose anything within Linux. Apparently, the "Win95 advocates" think that it is ok for the OS to lock down or freeze. Perhaps they are numbed by the inability to fix the problem(s). -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: where...
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 05:36:35PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: > Once again i need help. Where is ssl.h! It used to be in ssleay but not > anymore. I've looked but in the non-US there is no COntents file so i > really can't find the darn thing. Can someone give me a hand. You are right, there's no Contents there... (/me thinks a bug should be filed against nonus.debian.org) The file is probably in libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb, in non-US: $ dpkg --contents hamm/binary-i386/libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb | grep ssl.h -rw-r--r-- root/root 46150 1998-07-06 07:48 usr/include/ssl/ssl.h Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
where...
Hi Once again i need help. Where is ssl.h! It used to be in ssleay but not anymore. I've looked but in the non-US there is no COntents file so i really can't find the darn thing. Can someone give me a hand. Lots and Lots of thanks Mario Filipe -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Is the diskless boot possible in debian ?
I am having considerable trouble setting up my modem to connect to my ISP. I'm pretty sure I have the serial port configured but every time I run pppd via pon I get an error in the log file. I've read all the HOWTOs and anything else I can find (since no one on this list will ever help you if you don't) and I am still as lost as I was going in. In one of the HOWTOs they mention kermit and another program to test (not connect) the modem. I only have the base installed so I need to know, 1) what am I supposed to use to test that the modem is working? 2) is it a pert of the base install package? a) if not where can I get it and what do I need to do to get it running? 3) how can I mount(?) my win95 partition so I can access the files while in Linux (and vice-versa)? It is a real pain to have to keep switching OSs to read this lists mail and browse docs online and then try something and switch back and .. well you get the picture. I can see why people complain about the learning curve. It's not a matter of getting up it, it's just when you do get to a point where ignorance overcomes you and no one is willing to help it gets very frustrating. I'm almost ready to switch back to Windows (gasp) full-time. begin: vcard fn: Christopher Wesneski n: Wesneski;Christopher org:STMicroelectronics adr:1310 Electronics Drive;;;Carrollton, Texas;;75006;USA email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: ASIC Design Engineer tel;work: (972) 466-8277 tel;fax:(972) 466-6572 note;quoted-printable:"I skate to where the puck is going to be,=0D=0A= not where it has been." -Wayne Gretzky x-mozilla-cpt: http://sun4s023/~wesneski/;2 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Maintaining the operating environment Questions:
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 11:01:54AM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, G. Kaplan wrote: > > > 3. a primary module i.e. .xyz.tar.gz > Generally it's safest to untar, compile and install these with > prefix=/usr/local ... debian packages won't touch anything under > /usr/local, so nothing will get overwritten or anything. In general, a > lot of stuff you compile from tarballs yourself has a default install > under /usr/local. With respect to 1. and 2., one has to be careful here. Native Debian packages don't touch /usr/local, so it is safe to put local add ons there (and this is the intended and formal correct place). BUT inofficial *.deb files and *.rpm files converted with alien may very well contain /usr/local files, please check this with the "--contents" option prior installation. I believe you can even convert tar files to deb files. This is intereting if you want to make /usr/local managed by dpkg. Thank you, Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Minicom OK, PPP very slow!
Last night I did a brand new install of 2.0. All went well and I wanted to get ppp going. I saved the distribution ppp files and put in my old options, options.ttyS3, net-connect, and net-chat files. When I run pppd it connects and I get an IP and everything works, except it is *extremely* slow. tail -f /var/log/messages reports that it has connected at 9600 baud (not sure why so slow) but if I ping the host I get 50% lost packets and loop time of approx 6ms (What is that, 60 seconds per packet??!!) Even trying to telnet is impossible. Now, if I connect with minicom, it reports that it has connected at 56k and works nicely. I'm pretty sure that this is a new version of ppp and I suspect that things work differently and that I may need to configure differently. It works with the old files, but not correctly. I can provide any info that is necessary. Thank you, Ed * Ed Young(303)706-5425 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Echostar Technology Corporation Software Engineering Englewood, Colorado * -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
about sendmail
Hi (Yes it's me again) Is there a good way to diagnose what's happenning with sendmail ? Let me clarify: Sendmail is running, it's using the bo configuration I telnet into the machine into port smtp and it responds but if i send mail to it it just gets lost in the vacuum... Thanks Mario Filipe -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Problem mounting a NFS Filesystem
Do you have the NFS filesystem compiled into your kernel? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- |And if you on tight to what you think is your thing | |you may find you're missing all the rest ...| |- Dave Matthews, "Best of What's Around" | -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Problem mounting a NFS Filesystem
Hello, i got two boxes, which i wanted to connect. As usual i wanted to mount filesystem A with my box B. But I get the message: mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered So i checked that with rpcinfo -p (Box A) and it get the message No remote programs registered. So i check it directly on my Box A. 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 132 udp 2049 nfs 132 tcp 2049 nfs 151 udp732 mountd 152 udp732 mountd 151 tcp735 mountd 152 tcp735 mountd That's what I get. That means all is running. How is that possible? The Ethernet Hard- and Software is configured correctly because the machines can ping each other. Had someone already have the same experience and can help me? Thanks in advance. Nico -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
SPI maintains Debian?
Seen on COLA Message ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Our work is supported in part by SPI, who maintain the Debian GNU/Linux distribution. ... I thought SPI "maintained" copyrights and the like for Debian - I was not aware they were involved to the extent implied by this sentence. Is there information available which clearly delineates the relationship between Debian and SPI? (I'm not (too) paranoid, just confused) -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Where can I find...
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:05:24PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: > Well what package contains : > Xm/Xm.h > Xm/Text.h > Xm/List.h > Xm/ToggleB.h If you have a Debian CD-ROM, look for the file Contents-i386 (or Contents-i386.gz) and then $ grep Xm/Xm.h Contents-i386 or $ zgrep Xm/Xm.h Contents-386.gz on the right side of the screen you'll see things like devel/foobar-dev That means that the package foobar-dev in section devel contains the file you are looking for. Or look in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, near the bottom of the page there's a search form entitled "Search the Contents of the lastest release". Marcelo PS: It's in devel/lesstifg-dev -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
'eepro' module missing in 2.0 ???
Hello; Just tried to install Debian 2.0. Can't, however, find module for "Intel EtherExpress Pro/10" card. In older versions of Debian it was 'eepro' module. Help, please. Thanks in advance. Sergei Organov. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Where can I find...
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:05:24PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: > Well what package contains : > Xm/Xm.h > Xm/Text.h > Xm/List.h > Xm/ToggleB.h lesstifg-dev . HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: [OFF TOPIC] How to obtain molecules' pictures when using LaTeX ?
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:03:53PM +0200, Max Lawson wrote: > Actually, I'd like to know if there's sthg like "Chemdraw" in the GNU > environment ? I could use xfig, but it looks like overkill, isn't it ? :-/ Look in CTAN for chemsym, ppchtex (Plain TeX), xymtex (latex209) CTAN is http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/catalogue.html or try SAL (http://sal.kachinatech.com/, specifically http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/ -- but look for a mirror first!!!) Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Where can I find...
hi Well what package contains : Xm/Xm.h Xm/Text.h Xm/List.h Xm/ToggleB.h Thanks Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf | Agora bilingue (PT e EN) -> Now bilingual (PT and EN) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Maintaining the operating environment Questions:
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, G. Kaplan wrote: > Is there any way to determine the distribution source of an installed > module ? Not sure what you're asking here. > Suppose I wanted to maintain a system through dpkg , where is it > reasonable to store files that are not part of the current standard > distribution; but are: > 1. a properly defined .deb package, These can be handled by dpkg -- even if they're not in the "current distribution", it'll install them and keep track of them for you. It'll mark them as Obselete/Local in its package listing (because they don't fit in its current notion of what the distribution is, but otherwise with no side effects), but won't complain about installing or managing them for you. > 2. a properly defined .rpm package Use "alien" to convert it to a .deb and then see #1. > 3. a primary module i.e. .xyz.tar.gz Generally it's safest to untar, compile and install these with prefix=/usr/local ... debian packages won't touch anything under /usr/local, so nothing will get overwritten or anything. In general, a lot of stuff you compile from tarballs yourself has a default install under /usr/local. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- |And if you on tight to what you think is your thing | |you may find you're missing all the rest ...| |- Dave Matthews, "Best of What's Around" | -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Maintaining the operating environment Questions:
Is there any way to determine the distribution source of an installed module ? Suppose I wanted to maintain a system through dpkg , where is it reasonable to store files that are not part of the current standard distribution; but are: 1. a properly defined .deb package, 2. a properly defined .rpm package, or 3. a primary module i.e.. xyz.tar.gz What are the consequences with respect to 'Packages' , 'available', 'available-old', 'status', 'status-old'? What side effects should I be on the look out for? I am reading the programmer and policy documentation; but do not feel comfortable with my lack of understanding of side effects. Thank you. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: PLEASE - I really need help
Hello Thanks to everyone but everything id ok now! I had installed a different libX11 for deadkeys and that was the thing that was messing up the whole thing. THere are still a few problems but they will be solved Thanks:) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Is this expected ssh behavior?
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Paulo J. da Silva e Silva wrote: > Brandon Mitchell writes: > > Dang, it does look like it's a debian problem. I'm guessing it's a > > problem with bash only taking the first arguement after -c and not > > handling the --login switch appropriately when -c is given. Here's an > > example of the bug: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ bash -c echo hello world > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ > > I don't think this behavior is Debian specific. Here is some output from a > solaris2.5 system: > > -- > > rebutosa[~]% bash -c echo hello world > > rebutosa[~]% bash -c "echo hello world" > hello world > rebutosa[~]% > rebutosa[~]% bash --version > GNU bash, version 2.00.0(1)-release (sparc-sun-solaris2.5) > Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Thanks Paulo. Well Guy, I don't know what to do with this one. It turns out that -i helps run some of the login scripts and my goofup with -c is probably enough to close this bug report. You wouldn't happen to know how to get bash to read all of it's appropriate login scripts and then executing a command would you (this is for over an ssh connection)? Thanks, Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Trouble With Simple Thing.
> I'm sorta new to Debian.. and I was wondering if anyone could help > me with limiting users to their own directory. I've read docs about it, > but still can't get it working. Anyone help? Thanks. What exactly are you trying to do? Preventing users from changing directories can be accomplished by forcing them to run bash in restricted mode... Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- |And if you on tight to what you think is your thing | |you may find you're missing all the rest ...| |- Dave Matthews, "Best of What's Around" | -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
[OFF TOPIC] How to obtain molecules' pictures when using LaTeX ?
Hello, I'd like to put molecules' pictures in a LaTeX-document. What package should I retrieve ? Actually, I'd like to know if there's sthg like "Chemdraw" in the GNU environment ? I could use xfig, but it looks like overkill, isn't it ? :-/ Thanx in advance, Max -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: HP DeskJet 890C: poor performance on Linux vs. Windows
Hi, I used GIMP to view the original images and convert to postscript. They were both jpeg and gif originally. Similar results were obtained by converting with XV. Hm. Is there a better way to do the conversion? --M Regarding your message dated: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:00:51 BST >On 30-Jul-98 Martin Weinberg wrote: >> I have benchmarked the performance of both the cdj550, hp850, and >> hpdj drivers in gs on my Debian box and the HP provided Windows >> driver. I used both photographs and scientific "visualized" data. >> >> I'm using magicfilter and the parameters to gs were set as >> recommended in the various gs readmes. > >What format were the original image files in? If not in PS, how did you get >them into PS for gs to work on? > >Ted. > > >E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 30-Jul-98 Time: 23:00:51 > > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/ >null > -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Is this expected ssh behavior?
package: bash version: 2.01.1-3.1 On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote: > > I do set the path, but it doesn't look like it is being run. (Other > > statements should print to the screen as an earlier example you ran > > showed.) "ssh hostname" does execute .bash_profile. > > Ok, let's focus on this. Anyone have a good idea as to why bash doesn't > read it's .bash_profile when ssh is given the -t switch and bash is given > the -login switch? I'm stumped. [ Submitting bug report, watch cc's when replying. ] Dang, it does look like it's a debian problem. I'm guessing it's a problem with bash only taking the first arguement after -c and not handling the --login switch appropriately when -c is given. Here's an example of the bug: [EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ bash -c echo hello world [EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ HTH, Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: PLEASE - I really need help
On 31-Jul-98 Mario Filipe wrote: > > On 31-Jul-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:08:20PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: >>> 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 >>> libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001) >> >> The dynamic loader tries to load it against a libc5 library, >> >>> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000) >> >> but it is a libc 6 library. No netscape doesn't work : 13:53:22 mjnf neptuno$ ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape libXt.so.6 => not found libSM.so.6 => not found libICE.so.6 => not found libXmu.so.6 => not found libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4000c000) libXext.so.6 => not found libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4001a000) libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x400b8000) libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x400bb000) libg++.so.27 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x40179000) libstdc++.so.27 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x401b1000) libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401e2000) but ... 13:55:03 mjnf neptuno$ ldconfig -p | grep libXt.so.6 libXt.so.6 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 libXt.so.6 (libc4) => /usr/X11R6/lib/i486-linuxaout/libXt.so.6 libXt.so.6 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 Can someone shed some light over this. I'm going crazy! Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf | Agora bilingue (PT e EN) -> Now bilingual (PT and EN) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Is the diskless boot possible in debian ?
I plan to boot diskless PC as a X-terminal temporaly. If you have any suggestion, please tell me. Also I cannot find FDD image for Diskless boot (which is documented in Diskless-HOWTO) Please tell me good ftp site. The reason I plan to boot diskless PC is the PC SCSI-IF does not seems working now. A.Sakai Atsushi Sakai KEK, neutrino group e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: PLEASE - I really need help
On 31-Jul-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:08:20PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: >> 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 >> libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001) > > The dynamic loader tries to load it against a libc5 library, > >> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000) > > but it is a libc 6 library. > > Did you install the "xlib6g" package, which contains the libc6 X libraries? 12:18:10 mjnf neptuno# dpkg -l | grep xlib ii xlib6 3.3.2.2-4 shared libraries required by libc5 X clients ii xlib6g 3.3.2.2-4 shared libraries required by X clients ii xlib6g-dev 3.3.2.2-4 include files and libraries for X client dev Hope this awnsers your question and helps solve my problem... Thanks Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf | Agora bilingue (PT e EN) -> Now bilingual (PT and EN) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Is this expected ssh behavior?
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Re: PLEASE - I really need help
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 12:08:20PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: > 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 > libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001) The dynamic loader tries to load it against a libc5 library, > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000) but it is a libc 6 library. Did you install the "xlib6g" package, which contains the libc6 X libraries? Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
PLEASE - I really need help
Hi Like i've said before, upgrading from bo to hamm broke my X. Namely evrything that is in xbase does not work. THat means xinit, xterm , startx, xauth, etc. When I try to run any of these programms i get the following: xterm: error in loading shared libraries /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined symbol: _Xglobal_lock I've looked into this library and : 12:01:57 mjnf neptuno# ld /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; not setting start address /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined reference to `_Xglobal_lock' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined reference to `_XUnlockMutex_fn' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6: undefined reference to `_XLockMutex_fn' and ... 12:02:43 mjnf neptuno# ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4001) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ae000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x) I've tryed to reinstall all the packages without success. On an act of dispair of tryed to hand compile the thing (i thing i messed up because i ended up compiling the entire xfree stuff!HUGE), but in the end (after several hours of compilation) it didn't work. I noticed during the compilation of XF86Setup that it said something about needing tk4.1 well : 12:03:01 mjnf neptuno# dpkg -l | grep tk ii tk404.0p3-5The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.0 - Run-Ti ii tk414.1p1-2The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.1 - Run-Ti So am i missing something! Is there Hope for me! PLEASE just anwser me even if it is to tell me that i can shoot myself in the head! Any aditional info that you need just ask i'll give it to you (well ... not any kind ... i'm not ready yet to give you my root password )... Thanks (I eagerly await your awnsers) Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf | Agora bilingue (PT e EN) -> Now bilingual (PT and EN) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive
Hi Tom, I have read from this mini-howto (point 4.) the following: "...(Note: Contrary to what the man page states, the command "mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdb1" doesn't check for bad blocks under any of Red Hat, Debian or Slackware.)..." Is it true for Debian? On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > Scott, > > It may help if you read over this mini-HOWTO which covers this exact > topic: > > http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html > > I've used the first copy method (with everything on one partition) many > times with no problem. It also gives several other variations of how to > copy depending on your setup. > > One thing to check is if you have a /proc directory on the new disk, > because you usually need to do that manually. > > Tom > > Scott Hill wrote: > > > > I am quite a beginner. I am trying to make a clone of my hamm (disk A) > > to another [...] > Eugene Sevinian CRD, YerPhI, 375036, Armenia URL: http://crdlx5.yerphi.am/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-344873 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
ssltelnet not working...
Hi all, anybody using ssltelnet? I'm using: ii libssl08 0.8.1-7 SSL shared libraries ii ssleay 0.8.1-7 Secure Socket Layer and related cryptographi ii ssltelnet 0.11.1-2 SSLtelnet(d) is telnet(d) replacement with e I setup certificates and private key using req -new -x509 -nodes -out telnetd.pem -keyout telnetd.pem ln -s telnetd.pem `x509 -noout -hash < telnetd.pem`.0 also verified... verify telnetd.pem as the READMEs say... but or it cores dump (when telneting to localhost) but it seems to work when I telnet to some ssl aware host: bash-2.01$ telnet -z ssl localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. Segmentation fault bash-2.01$ telnet -z ssl www.bemarnet.es 443 Trying 194.179.67.200... Connected to www.bemarnet.es. Escape character is '^]'. I would like to know what is really happening before sending a bug to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I execute telnet client as bash-2.01$ telnet -z ssl -z verbose -z cert=/usr/lib/ssl/certs/telnetd.pem localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... SSL_connect:PINIT before SSL initalisation SSL_connect:23WCHA SSLv2/v3 write client hello A SSL_connect:error in 23RSHA SSLv2/v3 read server hello A Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. Segmentation fault The same happens if -z cert=... is ommited Does I need to setup something more? Any comment will be greatly appreciated, Ulisses PD: yes, xinetd (an inetd replacement) has reloaded its configuration -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
RE: HP DeskJet 890C: poor performance on Linux vs. Windows
On 30-Jul-98 Martin Weinberg wrote: > I have benchmarked the performance of both the cdj550, hp850, and > hpdj drivers in gs on my Debian box and the HP provided Windows > driver. I used both photographs and scientific "visualized" data. > > I'm using magicfilter and the parameters to gs were set as > recommended in the various gs readmes. What format were the original image files in? If not in PS, how did you get them into PS for gs to work on? Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 30-Jul-98 Time: 23:00:51 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: SCSI Controller
On Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 06:54:17PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Yup, and Adaptec bought Future Domain (and then proceeded to give us > that shi^H^H^Hgreat SCSI card, the AHA2920) Well, Adaptec recently tried to buy Symbios Logic but gave up due to competition concerns. I could just see all good SCSI card manufacturers being absorbed in to Adaptec .. I do like Adaptec's CD mastering software for Windows though. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Which debian?
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Adam Keys wrote: : Go with Debian 2.0, it's thoroughly mostly bug free and is libc6/glibc : based. Apache and PHP packages are available and are a snap to get : working. Beware that the current apache (1.3.1) and php3 (3.0) packages in slink don't work together. Get the apache 1.3.0 package (I think it's in hamm) and it works. -Remco -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
dump, rmt, and bo
Hi ... trying to backup a "bo" system to another "bo" system. I'm using dump ver 0.3-14 and cpio 2.4.2-10 . Trying to dump or even run restore gets the error message: 'Protocol to remote tape server botched (code "sh: rmt: command not found"). rdump: Lost connection to remote host.' This one has got me buggered. Has anyone got any ideas?? -#- David Khoury | Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and [EMAIL PROTECTED] | getting out of the way before it is understood. -#- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive
Scott, It may help if you read over this mini-HOWTO which covers this exact topic: http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html I've used the first copy method (with everything on one partition) many times with no problem. It also gives several other variations of how to copy depending on your setup. One thing to check is if you have a /proc directory on the new disk, because you usually need to do that manually. Tom Scott Hill wrote: > > I am quite a beginner. I am trying to make a clone of my hamm (disk A) > to another > hard drive (disk B). Here is what I did. > 1. I put them on master/slave and I partitioned B appropriately. > 2. I created file systems on appropriate partitions with mkfs /dev/hdb2 > and so on.. > 3. I mount the B partitions on the /mnt point. > 4. After reading in a multidisk HOWTO that cp is well behaved with > regard to > symbolic links I did a > cp -av /usr/mnt/usr > cp -av /home /mnt/home > and so on for each of the files and directories under / > (I did not just do the whole disk at one go cause I wanted to avoid /mnt > and /proc). > > Anyway, I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i > can logon > and seems ok. I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo. > But can't boot > off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error > message: > "unable to open an initial console". > > So: is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could > not find? Is there > a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4? Did some files not > go through > by my cp method. > > Thanks, > > Scott > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Solution: find -exec
Hi all! I reply myself here On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote: > Ulisses Alonso wrote: > > > >Hi all > > > >I would like to know if there is a way to make something like this > > > >find -exec command1 {} | command2 \; > > I take it you want to run the pipeline `command1 | command2' on each file. > > I don't think you can do this with find's own command line; the easiest way > is probably to write a little script and execute that instead: [...] > find -exec myscript {} \; I found a better way: find -exec bash -c "myfirstcommand {} | mysecondcommand | [...] \; Note that the use of find's {} is correct here Regards, Ulisses PD: Oracle8 and Informix will be ported to Linux! http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980717.whorlinux.htm - "Computers are useless. They can only give answers."Pablo Picasso -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: SHELL: duping stdout and stderr to another file
Hi Jim! [...] > Take a look at the tee command. Its in the package > shellutils. > > With tee you should be able to redirect stderr to stdout > (for whatever shell you are using) and then use tee to > copy stdout to a file. Thanks for your reply regards, Ulisses PD: Oracle8 and Informix will be ported to Linux! http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980717.whorlinux.htm - "Computers are useless. They can only give answers."Pablo Picasso -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Great stdout/stderr turorial!!! SHELL: duping stdout and stderr to another file
Hi Daniel! It's a great tutorial what you have done here [...] > I hope this answers your question. It's a joke? :-) Best whishes Ulisses PD: Oracle8 and Informix will be ported to Linux! http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980717.whorlinux.htm - "Computers are useless. They can only give answers."Pablo Picasso -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Anyone Read the Articles on Free Software In Forbes
On Thursday 30 July 1998, at 15 h 40, the keyboard of Allan Bart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just received the august 10th issue of forbes and guess who is on > the front page? Linus himself, in a semi hippie pose. the articel is International audience should note that, in the "global" edition of Forbes, which you can buy in France for instance, the cover is completely different (but the paper on free software is there and is very well written, very well explained, highly recommened if you have a suit to convince). I wonder why the editors of Forbes judged that europeans would not like a cover about free software? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
[hamm] How-to install the powerpc version?
Howdy, I'm a little bit confused here. On the mirror I'm mirroring from there are directories called: /dists/stable/hamm/binary-alpha /dists/stable/hamm/binary-powerpc /dists/stable/hamm/binary-sparc /dists/stable/hamm/disks-alpha /dists/stable/hamm/disks-sparc However on the main debian ftp site these seem to have vanished. Any idea where they went to? Anyway I need to install linux on some spare macs we have here (so they can be usefull for once :-) ) and ofcourse I would prefer to use Debian. Is there a Debian version for powerpc and ifso how can I install it since there is no disks-powerpc directory? Thanks in advance, Nico -- -- Nico De Ranter Sony Service Center (PSDC-B/DNSE-B) Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth Telephone: +32 2 724 86 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: American Cancer Society Email... HOAX! (fwd)
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Norbert Bottlaender-Prier wrote: > Richard L. Alhama a écrit: > > >... > > DEATH TO SPAMMERS! > > > >Aardvark Daily > > > >"Spam not ours" says American Cancer Society > >... > > Not only that, but think seriously : If they think about giving money, > WHY WOULD THEY WASTE THEIR TIME AND ENERGY COUNTING E-MAILS for 3 cts. > each ? They'd give it right away, wouldn't they ? Yup! Absolutely /\ Richard L. Alhama, Technical Support / \--, .o` /=" ,,'' \/ Cyberspace Laoag,ISP ``,,http://www2.cyberspace.com.ph/~keyoz "Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood!" --The Jargon File *'' -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
fdisk and fujitsu drives
I've got a 6.4 GB fujitsu drive that I am trying partition. Actually, I had it partitioned, formatted (no reported errors), and file system from an old disk transferred to it. However, I made it the master after the fs transfer, and was using a rescue floppy to boot, mount all the partitions and set up LILO, but LILO setup failed with: Device 0X0300: Invalid partition table, 3rd entry 3D address: 1/0/78 (73710) linear address: 55/11/21 (20592) fdisk reported the first four partitions not ending on cylinder boundaries. Also, the beginning, starting and ending cylinders are all wonky. Eg., begin start end typesize part 1 1 1 11 native 5M part 2 40 11 22 native 5M part 3 79 22 239 native 100M part 4 855 239 2859extendd rest of disk part 5 855 239 889 native 300M part 6 1024889 1539native 300M part 7 102415392189native 300M part 8 202421892623native 200M So, v (verify) gives all kinds of errors (end of cylinders not on boundaries, bad start of data, partitions overlapping). I deleted all the partitions and started over which fixed up the beginning cylinders on parts 1-4 but not the rest. ( I didn't write the partition table so I still have the old setup) QUESTIONS: 1) Does this matter ? (apparently it does to LILO) I was able to mke2fs -c all partitions no problem, and copy over the old file system. and if it does matter, 2a) Anyone know what is causing this ? 2b) " "" I can do to fix it ? I suspect this might be a logical/physical geometry thing. Linux required me to explicitly state the physical geometry of a 1.2 Gig Seagate (now a paper weight) before it would install on it. However, I have a Western Digital 3.1 Gig in another box that Linux happily installed on without the physical parameters. All help appreciated. Thanks, Gerald -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Linus Torvalds interview
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Alexander wrote: > Well, Windows is a decent OS if you know how to use and configure it right > (and work around its many bugs). If you can't deal with bugs in an OS you > don't deserve to be allowed to use a computer, or even own one. Windows I wonder if you would have the same attitude if you loose vital data on a computer crash. You sound as if you can predict when the crash is going to occur (I have seen windoze freeze a few minutes after a systems reset) > took many years to develop into its present state of glory and bugs alike. > Do you think MS took only 5 minutes to design and implement the UI? Or > FAT32? I don't think so. Not that Trovalds took any longer ... I think we are missing the point here. The length of time one takes to achieve a task is irrelevant (particularly so when there are standards which have to be met/adhered to). The fact that I take two weeks to assemble the components of a computer 'does not' make it better than one assembled in two hours by default. -- Jonathan Lawson Thermal Processes Unit Department of Applied Energy and Optical Diagnostics School of Mechanical Engineering, Cranfield University, Cranfield, Bedford. UK. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'They came forth from unholy darknesses ... and were driven back by the rage of Angels' -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
guile problem Re: gnome-card-games
Thanks! It looks like guile installs /usr/share/guile/slib -> ../../lib/slib but, of course, /usr/lib/slib does not exist on my system yet... so, perhaps guile needs to depend on slib... -brad On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Joey Hess wrote: > usr/lib/scm/require.scm interpreters/scm > usr/lib/slib/require.scm devel/slib B. Bell wrote: > when I run /usr/bin/sol, I get this error: > > guile: Could not find slib/require.scm in ("/usr/share/guile/site" > "/usr/share/guile/1.2" "/usr/share/guile" ".") > -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Can only run X as root
On 07/30/98 at 11:55 AM, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >X should be suid root and look like: >$ ls -l /usr/bin/X11/X >-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 4880 Jun 23 23:46 /usr/bin/X11/X > ^ important >Something must have messed up your setup, maybe you could try to set X >back with a >chmod -v 4755 /usr/bin/X11/X THAT WAS IT!!! I must have changed it. As I said I fiddled with it so much I was repeating the same mistake over and over. Thanks everyone, what tech support! George -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: enlightenment package for bo (libc5)?
If you want to run E, I recommend moving on up to hamm (or slink). Otherwise, you have to compile your own version of the following (in order): libz libtiff libpng libjpeg either libgif or libungif Imlib Fnlib Enlightenment If you want to -- go for it. Frankly give it up and move on to Hamm. It is better, faster, etc. All the libs except for libjpeg are rather out of date in Bo. libungif is not there at all. I do not have access to a Bo box or I would offer to help. (BTW I maintain E, Imlib and Fnlib for Debian). -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Scott Hill wrote: [ moving partitions snipped ] : Anyway, I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i : can logon : and seems ok. I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo. : But can't boot : off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error : message: : "unable to open an initial console". Sounds like a missing device file. : So: is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could : not find? Is there : a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4? Did some files not : go through : by my cp method. [ Warning! You are about to invoke religious debate ] I've found that `find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt' works everytime device and other "strange" files included. So, to copy on filesystem to another, mount the "target" filesystem on /mnt . `cd' to the mountpoint of the source filesystem (you're moving / `cd /', /usr `cd /usr', etc.) Then run the above command. Couldn't be easier. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
enlightenment package for bo (libc5)?
I'm still running the crusty ol' bo (1.3.1) Debian release. I'd like to install the Enlightenment window manager, but the only .deb package I can find is libc6-based (and bo is libc5). I tried installing from scratch, but that just didn't work. Any hints? Thanks! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Mounting Win95 Shares with samba
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote: > Have you any ideas on what this is trying to tell me? > > elm# smbmount //gum/h /mnt > Password: > SMBFS: need mount version 6 > mount error: Invalid argument > Please look at smbmount's manual page for possible reasons > > Running 2.1.105 if that makes a difference. IIRC when running 2.1.x kernels, you need to install the "smbfsx" package instead of "smbfs". Cheers, Joost -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
disc two
base14-2 is coming up bad sector every time i try to rawrite it to a diskette any other sources? tia -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
How to clone debian system to another hard drive
I am quite a beginner. I am trying to make a clone of my hamm (disk A) to another hard drive (disk B). Here is what I did. 1. I put them on master/slave and I partitioned B appropriately. 2. I created file systems on appropriate partitions with mkfs /dev/hdb2 and so on.. 3. I mount the B partitions on the /mnt point. 4. After reading in a multidisk HOWTO that cp is well behaved with regard to symbolic links I did a cp -av /usr/mnt/usr cp -av /home /mnt/home and so on for each of the files and directories under / (I did not just do the whole disk at one go cause I wanted to avoid /mnt and /proc). Anyway, I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i can logon and seems ok. I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo. But can't boot off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error message: "unable to open an initial console". So: is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could not find? Is there a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4? Did some files not go through by my cp method. Thanks, Scott -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Dumb Terminals Was: Unidentified subject!
It should be fairly trivial to set up some terminals up to serial ports. What kind of terminals do you have in mind? This would require a serial port for each terminal and changes in /etc/inittab. On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Has anyone or does anyone know how to, set up dumb terminals that are not > X terminals? I have read a few docs that some have pointed me to > (greatly appreciated) but they describe installing a unix on them I was > wondering if there was a way to just plug a few monitors into 1 box > kind of like an old mainframe but all the dumb terminal would have would > be is a keyboard and a monitor. > > > "If I had known this before I"Joel Keating > "started, I would have been a plumber"-Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * / -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: log file rotation in hamm...
Ok Alan, tell me how you like this answer. syslogd-listfiles has a -f option. With you you can pass it a BOGUS syslogd.conf file. Here is one I doctored for show purposes. Run syslogd-listfiles -f test.conf and you will see how it works. (Also see the --weekly). Now if you like this setup, edit cron.{daily,weekly}/sysklogd and add the -f to each call to syslogd-listfiles.*.*;ppp -/var/log/ppp.log *.*;mail-/var/mail/mail.log auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log #*.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog #cron.* /var/log/cron.log daemon.*-/var/log/daemon.log kern.* -/var/log/kern.log lpr.* -/var/log/lpr.log mail.* /var/log/mail.log user.* -/var/log/user.log # # Logging for the mail system. Split it up so that # it is easy to write scripts to parse these files. # mail.info -/var/log/mail.info mail.warn -/var/log/mail.warn mail.err/var/log/mail.err # Logging for INN news system # #news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit #news.err /var/log/news/news.err #news.notice-/var/log/news/news.notice # # Some `catch-all' logfiles. # *.=debug;\ auth,authpriv.none;\ news.none;mail.none -/var/log/debug *.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn;\ auth,authpriv.none;\ cron,daemon.none;\ mail.none -/var/log/messages # # Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in. # *.emerg * # # I like to have messages displayed on the console, but only on a virtual # console I usually leave idle. # daemon,mail.*;\ *.=debug;*.=info;\ *.=notice;*.=warn /dev/tty5 # The named pipe /dev/xconsole is for the `xconsole' utility. To use it, # you must invoke `xconsole' with the `-file' option: # #$ xconsole -file /dev/xconsole [...] # # NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a reasonably # busy site.. # daemon.*,mail.*;\ *.=debug;*.=info;\ *.=notice;*.=warn |/dev/xconsole
Re: dselect and getting rid of dependency complaining without installing packages.
On 31 Jul 98 01:00:22 GMT, Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >This has been bugging me for awhile and now I guess I'll ask what to do >about it. I've been using glibc Netscape 4.5pre1 for awhile now and I >installed it with dpkg -i --force-depends using the NS4 debian >installer. Whenever I use dselect I always have to exit with 'Q' or else >it will keep on telling me Netscape needs all these old libs which it >really doesn't. I was hoping the slink NS installer would be smart about >this but it looks like it's the exact same version as the hamm. Can I >just get dselect to shut up about it? > >Thanks, >Christopher > You can grab the netscape4 installer deb source and repackage it using dpkg-buildpackage. Make sure to give it a higher version number. That's what I did. I think I still have the new deb file somewhere if you need it. -- *) Aria -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
dselect and getting rid of dependency complaining without installing packages.
Hi, This has been bugging me for awhile and now I guess I'll ask what to do about it. I've been using glibc Netscape 4.5pre1 for awhile now and I installed it with dpkg -i --force-depends using the NS4 debian installer. Whenever I use dselect I always have to exit with 'Q' or else it will keep on telling me Netscape needs all these old libs which it really doesn't. I was hoping the slink NS installer would be smart about this but it looks like it's the exact same version as the hamm. Can I just get dselect to shut up about it? Thanks, Christopher -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Dumb Terminals
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Dumb Terminals >Date: 30 Jul 1998 21:58:33 +0200 >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have some old computers that I would like to use as dumb terminals. I >> was wondering if someone could point me to a good howto or faq on how to >> set this up or perhaps give me some tips and or help. > >Among a zillion other things this is covered in the Serial-HOWTO, which >you probably have on your system as /usr/doc/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.gz. > >You need a terminal program on the computer you want to use as a >terminal. Connection by a null-modem cable. > >Actual configuration on the Linux host side is trivial. You need to tell >init(8) to spawn a getty on that particular serial port. Enter an >appropriate entry in /etc/inittab. There's an example there. E.g., >I use: > >T6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -hL ttyS6 38400 vt320 > >-L tells getty that this is a local line, i.e. not connected to a modem, >-h tells it to use RTS/CTS flow control (not required but recommended). >Then there's the serial port, which is probably ttyS0 or ttyS1 unless >you have a multi-port card, the speed and terminal type. For the latter >two, use what your dumb terminal (or emulation thereof) supports. > >After editing /etc/inittab you need to tell init(8) to re-read its >configuration file. The "telinit q" command will do this. > >-- >Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See another pointless homepage at http://home.pages.de/~naddy/>. > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > Please correct me if I am not understanding the question, but I belive you originally asked if the connection to the "dumb" device could be done without a cpu/OS (PC) between the "dumb" station and the server. I would not even begin to guess how to make a "monitor/keyboard/mouse" talk serial, (or any other way), to a server without some form of cpu. Bill (Reboot) Bell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Linux vs. Windows
George Bonser wrote: > > > One thing that I find common is that newbies do not take the time > to read the instructions. They think they can "figure it out as they > go along" like they are used to doing with Windows. That can be > disaster with Linux because it will not warn you that you are about to > erase a partition, it assumes you read the documentation and know what > you are doing. This is true, but no matter how much you read, partitioning is still very error prone if you've never done it before. I've done so much of it that it's second nature, but the first few times are tough - and when it comes down to it, you have to do it to learn it. My point was really that "installing Linux" sort of takes the hit for this, when it really has nothing to do with Linux itself. > A lot of the problem is also Windows' fault. It assumes that it is the > only OS on the computer and gets cranky when a new OS tries to move in. The only problem along these lines with Windows is that it insists on rewriting the MBR when you install it. This can really throw someone who's not aware of it, and this practice is dead wrong - no OS should ever do that without at least asking. I've never had any other problem as far as Windows getting along with other OSes. > The second most common mistake is not reading the dselect documentaion > and the third mistake is trying to select a bunch of stuff on the first > pass through dselect. This is very true, and let's face it - dselect is damn confusing at first, especially when you barely know what a "package" is! Tom > George Bonser > > Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today? > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: SCSI Controller
> Hi, > > Didn't Adaptec bought out BusLogic? I thought I heard some news like > that a while back! No, that was Symbios, and it didn't turn in to anything. See http://slashdot.org/articles/980626094256.shtml if you want details. > Anders Hammarquist wrote: > > > > > Which motherboard has the BusLogic on board? Thanks! > > > > I don't know of any, or if they even exist (I suspect not). You should > > check with the manufacutrer Mylex http://www.mylex.com/ - they should know > > if there are any motherboards out there with BusLogic controllers on them. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null