Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Le 27 juillet 2014 01:36, Christophe t...@stuxnet.org a écrit : Bonsoir, Le 25/07/2014 23:32, moi-meme a écrit : dans un script je veux tuer vim appelé par xterm -e vim fichier Je lui envoie un kill -3 %1 (et pas un-9 je suis gentil ...) ça tue vim (et xterm ...) mais ce bâtard de sa mère laisse le fichier swap, ce que je comprends. pas trouvé de signal qui lui dise de fermer normalement. Ya moyen se faire autrement qu'en effaçant (très gorettement) le fichier swap ? ou alors en appelant un autre éditeur qui accepte cela ? Je suis la discuission depuis son début (très bonnes informations à prendre par ailleurs ;) ), mais une question me taraude . Pourquoi diable souhaites tu faire cela ? Quel est le vrai contexte ? Moi aussi, je suis cette discussion. troll Le plus simple pour tuer vim serait de rebouter la machine. Comme cela, pas besoin de kill. 80) Et pour le swap, je propose rm ./* Comme cela pas de question. /troll Sans blague, je n'arrive pas à déterminer où est le problème. Le comportement de vim http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet de sa copie de travail remonte à 1976 et il est utilisé par des millions de développeurs. On peut, aujourd'hui, penser avoir à apprendre son utilisation, mais il me semble inouï de suspecter qu'il y a un bug qui aurait échappé en presque 50 ans ou une mauvaise conception. Bon été. - (° Dhénin Jean-Jacques / ) 48, rue de la Justice 78300 Poissy ^^ dhe...@gmail.com -
Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Je ne pense pas qu'il s'agisse d'un bug. Je pense qu'il s'agit de forcer un comportement dans un cas qui colle pas avec son utilisation normal. On 27/07/14 07:31, (•‿•) Dhénin Jean-Jacques wrote: Le 27 juillet 2014 01:36, Christophe t...@stuxnet.org mailto:t...@stuxnet.org a écrit : Bonsoir, Le 25/07/2014 23:32, moi-meme a écrit : dans un script je veux tuer vim appelé par xterm -e vim fichier Je lui envoie un kill -3 %1 (et pas un-9 je suis gentil ...) ça tue vim (et xterm ...) mais ce bâtard de sa mère laisse le fichier swap, ce que je comprends. pas trouvé de signal qui lui dise de fermer normalement. Ya moyen se faire autrement qu'en effaçant (très gorettement) le fichier swap ? ou alors en appelant un autre éditeur qui accepte cela ? Je suis la discuission depuis son début (très bonnes informations à prendre par ailleurs ;) ), mais une question me taraude . Pourquoi diable souhaites tu faire cela ? Quel est le vrai contexte ? Moi aussi, je suis cette discussion. troll Le plus simple pour tuer vim serait de rebouter la machine. Comme cela, pas besoin de kill. 80) Et pour le swap, je propose rm ./* Comme cela pas de question. /troll Sans blague, je n'arrive pas à déterminer où est le problème. Le comportement devim http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet de sa copie de travail remonte à 1976 et il est utilisé par des millions de développeurs. On peut, aujourd'hui, penser avoir à apprendre son utilisation, mais il me semble inouï de suspecter qu'il y a un bug qui aurait échappé en presque 50 ans ou une mauvaise conception. Bon été. - (° Dhénin Jean-Jacques / ) 48, rue de la Justice 78300 Poissy ^^ dhe...@gmail.com mailto:dhe...@gmail.com -
Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Le Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:40:02 +0200, Francois Lafont a écrit : Envoyer le signal SIGTERM est ni plus ni moins ce que je t'ai indiqué dans mon premier message où j'avais donné la commande : kill -- -$(jobs -p) ben euh ! c'était pas évident et je m'en excuse. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d51afc$0$2059$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Le Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:30:04 +0200, Francois Lafont a écrit : Je suis d'accord. Lancer vim en arrière plan pour ensuite le killer, alors qu'effectivement vim est une commande 100% interactive, c'est assez curieux. Il est possible que le PO prenne son problème par le mauvais bout. Peut-être nous en dira-t-il un peu plus sur ce qu'il souhaite faire au final... ou pas. No problèmo mais je ne voulais pas encombrer. Numérisation de films argentiques photo par photo. (une bobine de 15cm 15000 photos environ). Je découpe ces 15000 photos en séquences. L'exposition de chaque séquence du film est différente d'où correction de chaque image par une boucle avec appel de convert et les arguments qui vont bien : c'est dans un fichier que j'exécute pour chaque image de la séquence. Pour ajuster les arguments j'édite le fichier (d'où le vim). d'où la boucle dans le script bash - éditer le fichier à exécuter (convert) avec vim - sauver les modifs (un :w!) - lancer l'action du convert - voir le résultat sur une image. - si c'est bon je ferme les images, vim (plus de modifs). Voilà courtement expliqué. Pour info les 15000 photos sont faites en 3 jours 1/2 environ. C'est un raspberry qui fait gaillardement le boulot. 15 bobines à numériser maintenant que je suis au point :-) Ensuite il y a le super8 à traiter. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d51e95$0$2059$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Le 27 juil. 2014 à 17:45, moi-meme chie...@free.fr a écrit :
Le Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:30:04 +0200, Francois Lafont a écrit :
Je suis d'accord. Lancer vim en arrière plan pour ensuite le killer,
alors qu'effectivement vim est une commande 100% interactive, c'est
assez curieux. Il est possible que le PO prenne son problème par le
mauvais bout. Peut-être nous en dira-t-il un peu plus sur ce qu'il
souhaite faire au final... ou pas.
No problèmo mais je ne voulais pas encombrer.
Numérisation de films argentiques photo par photo. (une bobine de 15cm
15000 photos environ). Je découpe ces 15000 photos en séquences.
L'exposition de chaque séquence du film est différente d'où correction de
chaque image par une boucle avec appel de convert et les arguments qui
vont bien : c'est dans un fichier que j'exécute pour chaque image de la
séquence.
Pour ajuster les arguments j'édite le fichier (d'où le vim).
d'où la boucle dans le script bash
- éditer le fichier à exécuter (convert) avec vim
- sauver les modifs (un :w!)
- lancer l'action du convert
- voir le résultat sur une image.
- si c'est bon je ferme les images, vim (plus de motifs).
Enfin ! On comprend mieux le sens du problème. Dans ce cas, j’en reviens à ce
que je suggérais dans une de mes premières réponses. Le « sed » ou le « awk »
me semblent plus indiqués..
Il ne reste plus qu’à savoir ce que tu entends pas « convert ». Est-ce
remplacer une valeur par une autre dépendant du nom du fichier ouvert dans ta
boucle BASH ? D’une autre variable ?
Dans ce cas, partir d’un fichier matrice contenant le nom des champs à modifier
différenciés par des soulignés (p.e. _CHAMP1_). Il suffit alors de récupérer la
valeur à donner à cette(ces) variable(s) dans la boucle et de modifier le
fichier matrice avec un sed comme ceci :
…
while [ Critère ] ; do
…
Var1=Recupération de la valeur
FichierCible=Nom du fichier correspondant
…
sed -e ’s/_CHAMP1_/${Var1}/g’ [-e …] ${FichierMatrice} ${FichierCible}
…
done
Voilà courtement expliqué. Pour info les 15000 photos sont faites en 3
jours 1/2 environ. C'est un raspberry qui fait gaillardement le boulot.
15 bobines à numériser maintenant que je suis au point :-)
Ensuite il y a le super8 à traiter.
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Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Le 27/07/2014 17:45, moi-meme a écrit : Je suis d'accord. Lancer vim en arrière plan pour ensuite le killer, alors qu'effectivement vim est une commande 100% interactive, c'est assez curieux. Il est possible que le PO prenne son problème par le mauvais bout. Peut-être nous en dira-t-il un peu plus sur ce qu'il souhaite faire au final... ou pas. No problèmo mais je ne voulais pas encombrer. Faut pas hésiter à donner le contexte. Des fois, ça permet d'avoir des solutions inattendues... même si dans ton cas ça semble peu probable car ton travail semble assez artisanal (sens aucune connotation péjorative) et pas vraiment automatisable (enfin si j'ai bien compris ce dont je ne suis pas sûr du tout). Numérisation de films argentiques photo par photo. (une bobine de 15cm 15000 photos environ). Je découpe ces 15000 photos en séquences. L'exposition de chaque séquence du film est différente d'où correction de chaque image par une boucle avec appel de convert et les arguments qui vont bien : c'est dans un fichier que j'exécute pour chaque image de la séquence. Pour ajuster les arguments j'édite le fichier (d'où le vim). d'où la boucle dans le script bash - éditer le fichier à exécuter (convert) avec vim - sauver les modifs (un :w!) Pas sûr d'avoir tout compris (j'y connais bien dans tout ce qui est média/image etc). Ce que je comprends (enfin je crois) c'est que dans la boucle de ton script bash : 1. Le script t'ouvre un fichier via « xterm -e vim fichier » 2. Toi, tu édites le fichier à la main et par tâtonnement (si j'ai bien pigé) 3. Et à un moment ton script bash va killer le process vim (d'où ta question initiale) Entre 1) et 3), le script, lui, il fait quoi ? Y'a forcément une truc entre les deux parce que sinon aussitôt le vim ouvert, il serait killé dans la foulée et tu n'aurais pas le temps d'éditer quoi que ce soit. Enfin, puisque c'est toi qui édite ton fichier à la main, pourquoi vouloir faire un kill alors que tu peux faire tout simplement un « :wq » dans vim ? Bon, j'ai peut-être rien compris à ton truc. Désolé si c'est le cas. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lr3ng0$nsh$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Une solution pas du tout technique à ce problème. J'ai trouvé à Paris, vers Bastille, une petite boite qui fait ça très bien. J'ai numérisé de très vieux films en super 8. Le vrai plus c'est qu'ils stabilisent l'image. On n'a plus les petits tressautements dus à l'entraînement du film. Bien sûr il y a un prix, mais ça dépend de la valeur du souvenir. Le 27 juil. 2014 22:33, Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a écrit : Le 27/07/2014 17:45, moi-meme a écrit : Je suis d'accord. Lancer vim en arrière plan pour ensuite le killer, alors qu'effectivement Le 27/07/2014 17:45, moi-meme a écrit : Je suis d'accord. Lancer vim en arrière plan pour ensuite le killer, alors qu'effectivement vim est une commande 100% interactive, c'est assez curieux. Il est possible que le PO prenne son problème par le mauvais bout. Peut-être nous en dira-t-il un peu plus sur ce qu'il souhaite faire au final... ou pas. No problèmo mais je ne voulais pas encombrer. Faut pas hésiter à donner le contexte. Des fois, ça permet d'avoir des solutions inattendues... même si dans ton cas ça semble peu probable car ton travail semble assez artisanal (sens aucune connotation péjorative) et pas vraiment automatisable (enfin si j'ai bien compris ce dont je ne suis pas sûr du tout). Numérisation de films argentiques photo par photo. (une bobine de 15cm 15000 photos environ). Je découpe ces 15000 photos en séquences. L'exposition de chaque séquence du film est différente d'où correction de chaque image par une boucle avec appel de convert et les arguments qui vont bien : c'est dans un fichier que j'exécute pour chaque image de la séquence. Pour ajuster les arguments j'édite le fichier (d'où le vim). d'où la boucle dans le script bash - éditer le fichier à exécuter (convert) avec vim - sauver les modifs (un :w!) Pas sûr d'avoir tout compris (j'y connais bien dans tout ce qui est média/image etc). Ce que je comprends (enfin je crois) c'est que dans la boucle de ton script bash : 1. Le script t'ouvre un fichier via « xterm -e vim fichier » 2. Toi, tu édites le fichier à la main et par tâtonnement (si j'ai bien pigé) 3. Et à un moment ton script bash va killer le process vim (d'où ta question initiale) Entre 1) et 3), le script, lui, il fait quoi ? Y'a forcément une truc entre les deux parce que sinon aussitôt le vim ouvert, il serait killé dans la foulée et tu n'aurais pas le temps d'éditer quoi que ce soit. Enfin, puisque c'est toi qui édite ton fichier à la main, pourquoi vouloir faire un kill alors que tu peux faire tout simplement un « :wq » dans vim ? Bon, j'ai peut-être rien compris à ton truc. Désolé si c'est le cas. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lr3ng0$nsh$1...@ger.gmane.org
envoi de mails à la liste depuis Android
Bonjour, J'utilise une tablette sous Android. C'est pratique pour lire les mails de la liste le soir. Seulement pour répondre, c'est pénible. Le répondre à tous met la liste en cc, et le copier_coller est alors impossible. Ecrire l'adresse, il y a des risques d'erreur... Je me demandais si vous aviez des idées pour écrire à notre chère liste depuis Android. J'utilise le lecteur de mail Android de base via exchange avec dovecot imap et sogo qui utilise mon serveur exim4, les trois sous sid. Merci d'avance
Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Le Sun, 27 Jul 2014 22:40:02 +0200, Francois Lafont a écrit : Entre 1) et 3), le script, lui, il fait quoi ? Y'a forcément une truc entre les deux parce que sinon aussitôt le vim ouvert, il serait killé dans la foulée et tu n'aurais pas le temps d'éditer quoi que ce soit. entre le 1 et le 3 il y a le 2 (!) le 2 c'est la boucle : édition du fichier avec vim déjà ouvert sauvegarde sans fermeture de vim effacement de l'image résultat lancement du programme édité précédemment : eval $(cat fichier) réaffichage de l'image qui a été traitée par le fichier modifié Si cela est bon je kill vim, les afficheurs d'image et je passe à la séquence suivante avec l'étape 1. Je suis d'accord c'est ENTIÈREMENT rustique (c'est pour ça que je ne diffuserai jamais) Il faut que cela fonctionne même si ce n'est pas totalement facile d'utilisation mais au moins que cela m'automatise un peu le travail. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d568e3$0$3645$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: tuer vim proprement (?)
Le 27/07/2014 23:02, moi-meme a écrit : Entre 1) et 3), le script, lui, il fait quoi ? Y'a forcément une truc entre les deux parce que sinon aussitôt le vim ouvert, il serait killé dans la foulée et tu n'aurais pas le temps d'éditer quoi que ce soit. entre le 1 et le 3 il y a le 2 (!) le 2 c'est la boucle : Ah. édition du fichier avec vim déjà ouvert sauvegarde sans fermeture de vim Heu... c'est dans la boucle bash ça ? Tu as des commandes bash qui éditent un fichier sous vim et qui font un « :w » ? effacement de l'image résultat lancement du programme édité précédemment : eval $(cat fichier) Tu pourrais faire un simple « bash fichier » plutôt que ton « eval ... », non ? réaffichage de l'image qui a été traitée par le fichier modifié Si cela est bon je kill vim, les afficheurs d'image et je passe à la séquence suivante avec l'étape 1. Vraiment désolé mais je n'ai globalement rien compris. Par exemple je n'ai pas compris ce qui est exécuté par toi manuellement et ce qui est exécuté par ton script bash. Ça vient peut-être de moi, je suis une peu lent parfois... Voir les remarques Pierre Marlard sur sed et awk qui pourraient peut-être te faire gagner pas mal de temps. Il semble avoir mieux compris que moi ce que tu cherches à faire. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lr3vbl$nqp$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: envoi de mails à la liste depuis Android
moi j'utilise K9-mail qui recupere et propose automatiquement d'utiliser les adresses dans les signatures de mail il est gratuit et fais pop imap smtp VmWare-zimbra exchange etc Le 27/07/2014 23:08, n...@dagami.org a écrit : Bonjour, J'utilise une tablette sous Android. C'est pratique pour lire les mails de la liste le soir. Seulement pour répondre, c'est pénible. Le répondre à tous met la liste en cc, et le copier_coller est alors impossible. Ecrire l'adresse, il y a des risques d'erreur... Je me demandais si vous aviez des idées pour écrire à notre chère liste depuis Android. J'utilise le lecteur de mail Android de base via exchange avec dovecot imap et sogo qui utilise mon serveur exim4, les trois sous sid. Merci d'avance -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d58195.4010...@baal.fr
Re: Error montar ntfs al apagar windows dual boot
El 27/07/14 a las #4, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus escribió: Cuando me pasa eso el problema es en windows, algo falló, no cerró bien algo o que se yo. Y por ello no deja montar correctamente en linux. Cuando eso me pasa, lo más fácil es volver a Windows y cerrar normalmente para evitar eso. Malo cuando se jode el sistema y ya no deja hacer nada. El problema está en Windows. Da lo mismo las veces que lo cierres normalmente como tu dices. A mi también me pasa. Siempre que apago el equipo desde Windows, luego me da problemas Debian para montar la partición. Como decimos, si en vez de apagar el equipo lo reiniciamos y apagamos desde Debian, el problema desaparece. Puedes hacer lo que sugiere Erick, yo no lo he probado pero suena interesante y útil. Pues yo no haría chequeo alguno a la partición Windows desde Linux, no sea que corrija algo y luego Windows se ponga tonto y no cargue. Recordad que si cuando Debian no monta la partición, se vuelve a entrar en Windows y todo va bien, luego no es problema de la partición, es la forma que tiene Windows de hacer el apagado. Si hubiera problemas, el propio Windows haría un CHKDSK en el inicio. Leí que ese equipo que te ha dado tantos dolores de cabeza usa dual boot y es para algun cliente o amigo. No creo que se trate de que dejes de recomendar linux y de hacer sistemas duales, solo procura que lo que instales no te genere tantos problemas. Pues en este caso, la solución sería no instalar Windows, que es el que complica la vida a Linux :-D Yo he instalado debian solo cuando me lo piden, si no opto por otras distros que se me complican menos. Pues me parece bien, pero no sé si sabes que esto es una lista sobre Debian, por lo que se trata sobre la instalación y uso de Debian. Decir que si te complica Debian instalas otra distro... no sé que tiene que ver aquí... cuando la mayoría de los problemas no tiene la culpa Debian, ya que en este caso, es culpa de Windows y sus manías :-P -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 2 linux machines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lr2k38$60v$1...@ger.gmane.org
[OT] Re: Sin sonido por hdmi Debian Wheezy kde nvidia 550 TI (solucionado)
El 25/07/14 a las #4, Maykel Franco escribió: ... Puff no vuelvo aconsejar a nadie ponerle linux porque luego pringo yo. Si te toca pringar, da igual el sistema que uses... :-P ¡Pues no me ha tocado a mi hacer de pringao con Windows! :-D -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 2 linux machines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lr2m2s$ltt$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: Sin sonido por hdmi Debian Wheezy kde nvidia 550 TI (solucionado)
El 27/07/2014 13:00, Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es escribió: El 25/07/14 a las #4, Maykel Franco escribió: ... Puff no vuelvo aconsejar a nadie ponerle linux porque luego pringo yo. Si te toca pringar, da igual el sistema que uses... :-P ¡Pues no me ha tocado a mi hacer de pringao con Windows! :-D -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 2 linux machines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lr2m2s$ltt$1...@ger.gmane.org Si pero ya te digo que no es lo mismo pringar con un error de windows que estas cosas raras de linux, pierdes mas tiempo. PD: todos los condes ya sea la familia amigos... Me lían con windows... Divertido sobre toso cuando llevas toda la semana trabajando con servidores y con equipos xD. Saludos.
Re: [OT] Re: Sin sonido por hdmi Debian Wheezy kde nvidia 550 TI (solucionado)
El 27/07/14 a las #4, Maykel Franco escribió: Si pero ya te digo que no es lo mismo pringar con un error de windows que estas cosas raras de linux, pierdes mas tiempo. Hombre... porque con linux, te toca hacer búsquedas para encontrar donde está el problema, y casi siempre es una tontería con algún fichero de configuración. Yo creo que con Windows es peor, rollos del registro. errores 0x00ABC000E (por ejemplo, que averigua que narices es) Lo que pasa es que con Windows asumimos que como no hay manera de meterle mano, se hace una nueva instalación limpia y listo :-D PD: todos los condes ya sea la familia amigos... Me lían con windows... Divertido sobre toso cuando llevas toda la semana trabajando con servidores y con equipos xD. :-D -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 2 linux machines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lr2o4d$er8$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: SONIDO
El Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:13:54 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: buenas camaleon revise el archivo /etc/modules y nada mas contiene # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with # are ignored. # Parameters can be specified after the module name. Claro, así lo tengo yo (bueno, en wheezy aparece el módulo loop. agrego el modulo en ese sitio! pero no deberia haber mas madulos escritos?? Sí, como ya te ha comentado Aradenatorix, añade el módulo que quieres cargar, es decir, añade una línea con: snd-hda-intel Y comprueba que tras reiniciar el sistema se carga correctamente y te funciona el sonido. Aunque sigo pensando que si tienes una tarjeta de sonido con chipset de intel ese módulo debería cargarse sin tener que especificarlo manualmente. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.07.27.14.15...@gmail.com
Re: un script pytoneano OFF-TOPIC
El 26-Jul-14 10:17 AM, ricky gutierrez escribió: Bueno quiero algo mas automatizado, uso iftop pero tengo que estar siempre en la terminal para verlo , ntop umm no se trae tantas cosas. puedes probar ntopng trae hasta una interfaz web. sldss El día 25 de julio de 2014, 8:54, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:04:45 -0600, ricky gutierrez escribió: senores se que este es un off topic fuera de debian , pero necesito un script que me permita ver que ip específicamente me consume mas ancho de banda en mi red interna , he estado buscando algo y lo mas parecido es este http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21095134/calculate-bandwidth-usage- per-ip-with-scapy-iftop-style (...) Y antes de meterte en un berenjenal... ¿no has probado a usar algún programita como los que menciona esa página (iftop/ntop/iptraf/ collectd)? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.07.25.14.54...@gmail.com :: :: : CUBAMOTRICIDAD 2014. Del 17 al 21 de noviembre del 2014: : 3er Forum Mundial de Educacion Fisica y Deporte Escolar: : 2do Taller Internacional de Actividad Fisica y Envejecimiento : : 4ta Bienal Mundial de Psicomotricidad y Desarrollo Infantil: :: :: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d5097b.7030...@inder.cu
Re: Error montar ntfs al apagar windows dual boot
El Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:16:48 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Ya no sé cuántas veces te he dicho lo del html... en fin, a ver si algún día me das una alegría :-P Hola buenas en el famoso ordenador del problema sonido por hdmi, ahora se suma este error cuando estoy en debían y quiero montar una partición ntfs: Ocurrió un error al acceder a «Disco duro de 1,3 TiB», el sistema respondió: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /media/unai/B634B71334B6D599: Command-line `mount -t ntfs -o uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177 /dev/sda4 /media/unai/B634B71334B6D599' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Operation not permitted The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option En la FAQ del driver (ntfs-3g) tienes algunos escenarios de error y cómo resolverlos (no lo digo por este en concreto, pero sí es útil saber dónde mirar por si te aparece otro error): NTFS-3G Questions http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/ Todo apunta a que es debido al apagado hybrido que hace windows, kaka de vaka que como siempre jode a los demás. Hombre, la única culpa que tiene windows es la de no tener un sistema de archivos abierto y de código libre (NTFS). Te aseguro que windows no se quejaría de esto porque sabe lo que tiene que hacer. Ahora, el driver de Tuxera pues tiene sus limitaciones, normal... Si apagas windows y arrancas desee linux al hacer el apagado hybrido, suspender en otras palabras o hibernación parcial, da error de que el sistema no esta limpio, lógico. En cambio si reinicias windows y arrancas desde linuxonta sin problemas ntfs... Ummm se os ocurre alguna solución aparte de forzar el montaje? Porque aún forzando el montaje en linea de comandos tengo problemas... Yo no jugaría con eso, te puedes cargar el sistema de archivos de windows y te va a salir más caro. Apaga windows cuando quieras iniciar con linux (o dile a tu amigo que lo haga) o haz lo que te dice el driver (montar la partición en modo de sólo lectura) si no se quiere arriesgar a corromper el sistema de archivos o incluso a perder datos. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.07.27.14.28...@gmail.com
Re: monitorear tráfico de red en tiempo real
El 26-Jul-14 7:40 PM, Erick Ocrospoma escribió: 2014-07-26 10:34 GMT-05:00 Flako subfo...@gmail.com: El 26 de julio de 2014, 11:34, sebastián sebast...@indomitux.com.ar escribió: Hola, Se trata de una gran red sin balanceo de carga y con proxy transparente, por lo que mucho tráfico se cuela por el forward de 443. Quería saber qué software utilizarían para detectar abusos en el tráfico de Internet. Yo utilizo iptraf en el gateway y ordeno por consumo, pero quería saber si hay algo más sencillo para un usuario sin experiencia. Muchas gracias, tenes ntop, iftop pero no se si son cómodos para saber quien esta consumiendo mucho trafico en una red. Yo justo ahora estoy haciendo un scripts que toma el log de iptraf (iptraf -B -f -l eth0 -L /root/lan_statistics.log ) y me lo muestra mas cómodo para el análisis.. De lo que recuerde ntop si te da estadísticas de que inbound/outbound por IP. Si usas squid podrías probar con sarge, aunque no estoy seguro (a ciencia cierta) de si te da estadísticas de consumo (al menos sería solo para HTTP) si el proxy es squid, para ver la cantidad de usuarios/páginas abiertas en tiempo real puedes usar sqstat salu2s :: :: : CUBAMOTRICIDAD 2014. Del 17 al 21 de noviembre del 2014: : 3er Forum Mundial de Educacion Fisica y Deporte Escolar: : 2do Taller Internacional de Actividad Fisica y Envejecimiento : : 4ta Bienal Mundial de Psicomotricidad y Desarrollo Infantil: :: :: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d50c1d.3090...@inder.cu
Re: OPCACHE
El Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:53:08 -0500, Debian Linux escribió: (ese html...) Las últimas versiones de Moodle piden activar opcache que viene con php 5.5. Debian estable viene con PHP 5.4.4 Tambien dicen que si tienes una versión anterior puedes omitir esa recomendación: http://docs.moodle.org/27/en/OPcache *** NOTE: If you are running PHP 5.3 or 5.4 you can safely ignore the Environment Check message about OpCache. Nonetheless, it might be useful to upgrade Operating System/PHP and get to 5.5 or newer; as there have been all sorts of problems described on PHP 5.2 and 5.3, and upgrading PHP turned out to be the easier solution. *** Otra opción para las versiones anteriores parece ser instalar/habilitar ZendOpcache (PECL). ¿Alguna experiencia respecto a instalar opcache? Gracias anticipadas por las respuestas. Yo probaría antes el desempeño de moodle sin esa extensión a ver qué tal le va y si notas que está lentorro, seguiría con la opción de zendopcache. Lo último que probaría es actualizar php porque se me antoja dolor de muelas asegurado (no hay paquete oficial actualizado en los backports, sólo en un repo externo, lo que para un sistema de pruebas no está mal pero en un entorno de producción puede no ser lo más conveniente). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.07.27.14.41...@gmail.com
Apagado en LXDE
Estimados: Ayer migré la netbook HP mini 102la de stable (wheezy) a testing (jessie) que tiene instalado una sesión LXDE bien minimalista. Habiendo sucedido lo que supuse que iba a suceder, me tomé todos los recaudos posible, con lo que el pasaje a systemd y la muy especial placa de wifi broadcom no presentaron escollos, y la maquinita funciona de perlas. La liebre saltó por el lado del apagado. Pulso Salir, Apagar y... bien, gracias. No se apaga. Sólo puedo apagarla saliendo de la sesión, y en la pantalla de acceso de lightdm recién allí puedo apagarla. He buscado en la red, y lo que todos sugieren es incluir mi usuario al grupo powerdev; esos sería posible si la máquina tuviese un grupo powerdev, que no lo tiene, habida cuenta que no está instalado hal por obsolescencia. Por lo que SUPONGO que la solución está por el lado de devicekit-power, pero no tengo idea de por dónde empezar. Por lo que escucho sugerencias. Muchas gracias a todos JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAG0od5ejM_-zacV-e5QU-v�DFWcPPk0VT26uMfW912-=r...@mail.gmail.com
Re: monitorear tráfico de red en tiempo real
El 27/07/14 11:26, J P escribió: El 26-Jul-14 7:40 PM, Erick Ocrospoma escribió: De lo que recuerde ntop si te da estadísticas de que inbound/outbound por IP. Si usas squid podrías probar con sarge, aunque no estoy seguro (a ciencia cierta) de si te da estadísticas de consumo (al menos sería solo para HTTP) si el proxy es squid, para ver la cantidad de usuarios/páginas abiertas en tiempo real puedes usar sqstat salu2s Gracias por las respuestas, probaré. Como explicaba, esta red está configurada con squid en modo transparente, por lo que el tráfico https no pasa por él, así que las estadísticas de squid poco sirven para explicar el consumo por IP y en el caso de 'sarg' lo normal es procesar los logs diariamente, no en tiempo real, es más útil para empresas donde las IPs suelen ser fijas o se identifica al usuario. Saludos, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d51915.80...@indomitux.com.ar
Re: OPCACHE
On 27/07/14 16:41, Camaleón wrote: El Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:53:08 -0500, Debian Linux escribió: (ese html...) Las últimas versiones de Moodle piden activar opcache que viene con php 5.5. Debian estable viene con PHP 5.4.4 Tambien dicen que si tienes una versión anterior puedes omitir esa recomendación: http://docs.moodle.org/27/en/OPcache *** NOTE: If you are running PHP 5.3 or 5.4 you can safely ignore the Environment Check message about OpCache. Nonetheless, it might be useful to upgrade Operating System/PHP and get to 5.5 or newer; as there have been all sorts of problems described on PHP 5.2 and 5.3, and upgrading PHP turned out to be the easier solution. *** Otra opción para las versiones anteriores parece ser instalar/habilitar ZendOpcache (PECL). Y otra opción es instalar algún otro opcache, como php-apc [0] (empaquetado para Debian) que podria decirse que ha sido la mejor opción soportada por PHP (hasta que la han cambiado por Opcache). [0] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=php-apcsearchon=namessuite=stablesection=all Salut, jors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d51536.2060...@enchufado.com
Re: qos - modelado de trafico o como-se-llame
On 24/07/14 21:43, Mariano Cediel wrote: para hacer la busqueda de google mas afinada, os hago la siguiente pregunta. [1] Quiero que todas las IPs de un rango de LAN se repartan EQUITATIVAMENTE la subida/bajada de internet (100/10) Cuando me lo miré me ayudaron a entender el tema del QoS éstos recursos [0][1] (especialmente el primero para empezar a familiarizarse). o bien ... [2] Quiero que todas las IPs de una LAN estén limitadas como mucho por 1 mega de bajada / 128 de subida Ésto segundo es más fácil y hay una herramienta para no tener que complicarte la vida: wondershaper. No tengo muy claro aún cómo lo voy a montar. Sea cual sea el tipo de tráfico, eso no me importa. las palabras clave para realizar la búsqueda en google son ¿? Como ya te dijeron, traffic shaping. [0] https://wiki.debian.org/TrafficControl [1] http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/manual/userg.htm [2] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wondershapersearchon=namessuite=stablesection=all Salut, jors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d51c72.6050...@enchufado.com
Re: Apagado en LXDE
El Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:11:28 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió: Ayer migré la netbook HP mini 102la de stable (wheezy) a testing (jessie) que tiene instalado una sesión LXDE bien minimalista. Habiendo sucedido lo que supuse que iba a suceder, me tomé todos los recaudos posible, con lo que el pasaje a systemd y la muy especial placa de wifi broadcom no presentaron escollos, y la maquinita funciona de perlas. Si es una instalación mínima es posible que te hayas dejado algún paquete en el tintero. La liebre saltó por el lado del apagado. Pulso Salir, Apagar y... bien, gracias. No se apaga. Sólo puedo apagarla saliendo de la sesión, y en la pantalla de acceso de lightdm recién allí puedo apagarla. (...) A mí pasa lo mismo (no se apaga) pero sólo cuando uso systemv, cuando cargo el sistema con systemd se apaga sin problemas (estoy con gnome +gnome-shell). Esto lo comenté en la lista, creo recordar que era un bug. En tu caso, prueba con las opciones de depuración que indican en la wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging Y echa un vistazo también a este hilo de los foros donde hablaban del mismo tema: LXDE doesn't shutdown or reboot http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=109534 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.07.27.15.45...@gmail.com
[OFF-TOPIC] Soporte discos 4 TB HP Proliant N36L
Hola buenas, alguna vez he hablado del servidor que tengo en casa un HP Proliant N36L. En teoría tengo este, el non-hot-plug http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.PAGE/public/psi/swdHome/?sp4ts.oid=5037569spf_p.tpst=swdMainspf_p.prp_swdMain=wsrp-navigationalState%3DswLang%253D8%257Caction%253DlistOSjavax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetokenjavax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken. digo en teoría porque lo compré en pccomponentes y en la factura solo pone: HP ProLiant MicroServer AMD Athlon II N36L/1GB/250GB Y al tratarse de venir con el disco de 250 GB de serie, creo que este, ya que si me hubiera cogido con soporte en caliente de conexión de disco duro hubiera sido más caro. Ahora mismo tengo 4 discos duros: 1 disco - 250 GB que venía por defecto con el cacharro, para el SO. 2 disco - 1 TB 3 disco - 1 TB 4 disco - 1 TB Y tengo un raid5 con mdadm de 2 TB, con tolerancia a fallos de 1 disco. El caso es que me quedo sin espacio, si tengo un montón de archivos y me gustaría pasar a una mejor vida en cuanto a espacio, me gustaría tener: 1 disco - 250 GB 2 disco - 4 TB 3 disco - 4 TB 4 disco - 4 TB 5 disco - 4 TB Que daría un total de 12 TB. El HP solo tiene 4 bahías, pero aprovecharía la de la lectora de arriba para meter ahí el disco duro de 250 GB, y en la parte de abajo metería los 4 discos de 4 TB. Mi pregunta de todo esto es si soportará el servidor 4 TB, leerá el disco? Según este post: http://blog.samat.org/2010/12/10/Hardware-review-of-the-Hewlett-Packard-ProLiant-N36L-Microserver Dicen que han conectado un disco de 3 TB y lo ha reconocido, pero no sé yo que pasará con uno de 4 TB, alomejor tengo que actualizar el firmware de la bios... Creo que lo mejor es llamar a HP para asegurarme, dándoles el serial number... Qué opináis? Aqui dicen que 3 TB soporta fijoi: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=120082 Gracias de antemano. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caj2aoa-fkdkvtgxytu2kbd5024vupnpgysgxowtpn4hp-6t...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Soporte discos 4 TB HP Proliant N36L
El 27 de julio de 2014, 13:51, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Creo que lo mejor es llamar a HP para asegurarme, dándoles el serial number... Qué opináis? Totalmente de acuerdo.
Re: Memcached en mysql galera Debian Squeeze
On 16/07/14 12:08, Maykel Franco wrote: Hola muy buenas, tengo desde hace tiempo un mysql galera puesto en 2 nodos (...) Dejando de lado tu consulta y JFYI, eso no es muy buena idea para éste tipo de cluster por un tema de quorum. Cualquier incidencia (split del cluster, nodo averiado/offline o simplemente un MySQL caído) va a hacer que ambos nodos dejen de funcionar. Es mejor idea usar un número impar de nodos o, a malas, configurar un nodo falso (aka arbitrator) para mantener el quorum y disponer del HA que te da un cluster. Salut, jors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d52282.6080...@enchufado.com
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Soporte discos 4 TB HP Proliant N36L
El día 27 de julio de 2014, 18:57, Ricardo Eureka! ricardoeur...@gmail.com escribió: El 27 de julio de 2014, 13:51, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Creo que lo mejor es llamar a HP para asegurarme, dándoles el serial number... Qué opináis? Totalmente de acuerdo. No responde a mi duda pero gracias. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAJ2aOA-cwQ17G3v8e-VbP=kkfp7weuw6tomajsq4ydxb7gp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Soporte discos 4 TB HP Proliant N36L
El Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:51:45 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Hola buenas, alguna vez he hablado del servidor que tengo en casa un HP Proliant N36L. (...) Como ya te comentado en alguna que otra ocasión, las características de la controladora de disco duro las tendrás en las especificaciones y la hoja de producto. Los equipos de HP suelen tener un número de serie o número de producto que identifica unívocamente el tipo de componentes que monta cada ordenador/servidor por lo que tienes que localizar ese identificador (generalmente ubicado en una etiqueta en la parte trasera de la torre) y buscar por ese número en la página web de HP, así podrás ver las características de tu controladora, qué tamaño de discos admite, si hay alguna actualización de la BIOS que permita discos de mayor capacidad, etc... Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.07.27.17.28...@gmail.com
Re: Apagado en LXDE
El día 27 de julio de 2014, 12:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:11:28 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió: Ayer migré la netbook HP mini 102la de stable (wheezy) a testing (jessie) que tiene instalado una sesión LXDE bien minimalista. Habiendo sucedido lo que supuse que iba a suceder, me tomé todos los recaudos posible, con lo que el pasaje a systemd y la muy especial placa de wifi broadcom no presentaron escollos, y la maquinita funciona de perlas. Si es una instalación mínima es posible que te hayas dejado algún paquete en el tintero. La liebre saltó por el lado del apagado. Pulso Salir, Apagar y... bien, gracias. No se apaga. Sólo puedo apagarla saliendo de la sesión, y en la pantalla de acceso de lightdm recién allí puedo apagarla. (...) A mí pasa lo mismo (no se apaga) pero sólo cuando uso systemv, cuando cargo el sistema con systemd se apaga sin problemas (estoy con gnome +gnome-shell). Esto lo comenté en la lista, creo recordar que era un bug. En tu caso, prueba con las opciones de depuración que indican en la wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging Y echa un vistazo también a este hilo de los foros donde hablaban del mismo tema: LXDE doesn't shutdown or reboot http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=109534 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.07.27.15.45...@gmail.com Veo que es un bug de lxpanel / lxsession con respecto a systemd. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731489 Al parecer, está corregido en la versión 0.6.2, que es la disponible actualmente en la forja (source forge) de LXDE. Pero en Debian, tanto testing (jessie) como sid tienen solamente disponible la 0.5.12. Y hoy no ando con ganas de ponerme a compilar fuentes :P Así que lo veré en la semana que viene. Gracias nuevamente. JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cag0od5f4iqku9zvdfujn8_9h8ykbntb_scfz5etv+rw1f3f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Day Recife
Olá, Estamos articulando para rolar algumas palestras por streaming de alguns pontos pelo pais. Abs. Em 26 de julho de 2014 10:35, Felipe Duque felipe.du...@gmail.com escreveu: Então, pensei que a gente podia ir numa pizzaria, acho que todos gostam. Atlântico das Graças, 19h, no dia 16/8 (sábado), o que vcs acham? Em 26 de julho de 2014 00:05, Daniel Pimentel (d4n1) d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu: Sou de Alagoas, se tiver eu vou!!! Fizemos Debian festival alguns anos aqui, mas esse ano acho que não vai ter. Porém vou tentar organizar algo, alguém de Alagoas disposto? Em 25 de julho de 2014 13:34, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: não sei. eu saí a muitos anos. é bom não confundir, debian-peru (o país) com debian-pe (o estado brasileiro) mas e aí, felipe? qual o plano? hora, data, local? mais alguém aqui da lista vai participar? acho melhor levar esta discussão local para fora de uma lista nacional. Em 25 de julho de 2014 11:11, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito mareg...@gmail.com escreveu: Desculpa ainda existe a debian-pe? Em 25 de julho de 2014 10:04, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: eu me interesso. mas você procurou a lista do debian-pe? Em 25 de julho de 2014 09:39, Felipe Duque felipe.du...@gmail.com escreveu: Oi, gente! Não sei se esta é a lista adequada, mas alguém de Recife ou redondezas gostaria de celebrar o aniversário do nosso querido Debian no dia 16 de agosto, que será num sábado. Seria algo bem leve mesmo, uma ida à praia de Boa Viagem ou uma pizza :) Quem se interessa? (me perdoe se este não for o canal apropriado pra esses convites) Abraço -- Felipe Duque Belfort @duquefelipe 55 81 9706-9718 Fundador do jornal O Estudante Alumnus da AIESEC Recife -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/capr829mpbc5pw3as-q+vfgzrnesada8gdjm6gl1scjlwzzl...@mail.gmail.com -- Marcos Egito CV: http://lattes.cnpq.br/2389439225800702 GNU/Linux User #491326 blog maregito.wordpress.com TIM 081-9525-3834 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo, sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio! (Eu) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/capr829nfnqm7weq_2oybezennvkm1pjp2ra_mvibbpognf...@mail.gmail.com -- Msc. Daniel Pimentel (d4n1) -- Felipe Duque Belfort @duquefelipe 55 81 9706-9718 Fundador do jornal O Estudante Alumnus da AIESEC Recife -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana http://www.phls.com.br Tim (41) 9638-1897 GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cahe0bge1nqt1vdodj_xagyhx7d5vfbst5mbooptfnwqxxyv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
On 27/07/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/07/2014, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I've known for a long while that there was something strange about sending mail via my ISP. They have made it clear in that they do not require or use TLS. It occurs to me that perhaps my computer does not have installed the appropriate certs to function with TLS. How would I ever have known they were missing if they were not being used? So maybe their goofyness has allowed me to miss something that I was doing something wrong from way back when I first got started in Debian in about Y2K. Certs are used for https and these must be on the computer because it manages to connect to my banks (2) , but maybe the ones needed to do SMTP are some different? How can I check. I have found some instructions for using gmail as a smart host and I'm trying to follow them, but things are not working. When I press the 'y' key in mutt to send an email, the message 'sending...' displays in the bottom line, but it stays there for many minutes when it once would accept an email is just a few seconds. How can I find out what is happening during that time? Is there some debug tool? Thoughts or suggestions? -- Paul Hello. 1. I am not a Debian or email expert, merely a user of limited knowledge. 2. The message appears to me, to be inconsistent with the message subject. Do you want to replace your ISP, or, are you trying to find how to better access your ISP's SMTP server? 3. You have not stated which version of Debian, you are using. This can be important, as one of the email applications that I use, iceape, is, I believe, not available for Debian 7.x, and I do not know how another; alpine, behaves with Debian 7.x. 4. Wih email, I use three different applications (I believe that I use no more than three); for outgoing email, I use iceape, Opera, and, in most replies to email messages, alpine. I use two different ISP's (Internet Service Providers); one for accessing the Internet (and thus, providing the SMTP server), and another for web sites hosting (and thus, for the IMAP server). The ISP for the IMAP server, has recently (causing much trouble) switched its legacy hosting from an ISP that it had taken over, and, had instituted IMAP hosting using TLS, and so the IMAP server in alpine (the INBOX path) had to be changed. The SMTP server does not show, as involving TLS (I have no idea, as to what is TLS, only that it is something that has to be addressed in the INBOX path), and, the SMTP server address, is the same for each of the outgoing email applications. I am unot familiar with using mutt as an amial application, but I suggest that you try the SMTP server address, in each of a couple of other email applications, for example, download and instal Opera, and (if applicable) iceape, set up mail accounts, with the SMTP server address that you are now using, and, send to yourself (to a gmail account, for example), test messages, via each of the email applicatoions, and, examine the time taken to send each message. 5. I note that your message does not indicate whether the delays in sending, are for every message, are regular, or, are occasional. Such information, is important. I occasionally get delays, and, sometimes, timeouts, when sending messages, and I assume that it is due to the SMTP server, or, one of the nodes between here and the SMTP server, being busy. I hope that this is helpful. Two further aspects of this, have since occurred to me (and, a third, added for luck :) ). 6. You did not name your ISP. Perhaps, if you had included in your post, the name of the ISP, someone else on this list, may have experience with the particular ISP, and, be able to give you the simple solution (assuming that the solution is simple; which it can be - sometimes, as simple as substitution of the path for the SMTP server, eg, in apline/pine, at the end of the path for the SMTP server, having novalidate-cert) - sometimes, solutions, especially with email, can be amazingly simple. 6. Have you contacted your ISP support people, and, asked them what exactly is the correct path for the SMTP server? It may be on an FAQ web poage for the ISP, or, may be resolved by contacting the ISP (best by email, if email contact is available, and, if response time, is adequate), and, putting the explicit question what exactly, is the correct path for the SMTP server, to be input into email applications?. Once again, it may be an amazingly simple solution, once you know what is the solution. 7. And, see my signature quotation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: mounting a Nikon camera
On 27/07/2014 07:01, jeremy bentham wrote: From time to time threads appear here describing troubles mounting digital cameras. I never paid much attention to them, because I didn't have a digital camera and had no intention of acquiring one. Time makes liars of us all, I guess. I now have a Nikon L30, and I can't get my Lenny machine (yeah, yeah, I know) to mount it. I also have an ancient McApple, and all I have to to do there is connect the camera, and iPhotos opens and gives me access to the SD card. The machine sees the camera: in /dev, the following appears when I connect it (at 2014-07-26 20:16): crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 2 2014-07-26 20:16 ptmx drwxr-xr-x 2 root root2880 2014-07-26 20:16 char crw-rw 1 root root252, 12 2014-07-26 20:16 usbdev3.66_ep00 crw-rw 1 root root252, 11 2014-07-26 20:16 usbdev3.66_ep82 crw-rw 1 root root252, 9 2014-07-26 20:16 usbdev3.66_ep01 crw-rw 1 root root252, 10 2014-07-26 20:16 usbdev3.66_ep81 Note, no new block device. And in /proc/bus/usb, a stanza in devices: T: Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 66 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04b0 ProdID=0357 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=NIKON S: Product=NIKON DSC COOLPIX L30-PTP S: SerialNumber=30067027 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=06(still) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none) E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=4096ms Does that Driver=(none) mean I'm hosed? So, the computer knows the camera is connected. It just won't let me *do* anything with it. Whaddo I do? -- Dave Williams Awk! he sed, bashfully. Do I *have* to learn d...@eskimo.comPerl? Hi Jeremy, I have no experience with your model, but the Nikon cameras I know (I use DSLRs) are accessed though PTP and not via usb as mass storage. I use Digikam (which uses libgphoto2) to retrieve the images, I know Gphoto2 and a few other programs can do that to. With a file manager it is sometimes possible to access the camera via a special url, like in Gnome Nautilus gphoto2://[usb:id] where [usb:id] is the numeric usb vendor:device id you get from the lsusb command output. In KDE the Dolphin file manager one can use the special camera:/ address to access such cameras. But in your case the most likely issue is the relative old age of the system, the vendor:device id of your camera may not be among those in the known devices list. Hope it gets you on tracks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d4b437.4000...@googlemail.com
Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1
On Du, 27 iul 14, 12:34:17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 7/26/14, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: With sysvinit the default at booting is for the screen messages to fly past at a bewildering speed and then for the screen to be cleared by agetty. I've thought for years, and noted in my fix unix notes that boot messages ought be written starting at the top of the screen, then when they get to the bottom, rather than continuing at the bottom and scrolling, to start at the top again, *without* clearing the screen. You are aware of course that: - scrolling can stopped - the clearing of the screen can be prevented - it's also possible to scroll *back* (surprise, surprise) - the scroll-back buffer can be increased Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New 64bit Installation. Root partition too small--what to do?
Question: How do I tell grub about new /, new /boot, etc.?? Seems to be mostly automatic with little documentation. Or do I go back to lilo which I at least know how to configure :-)? If you're mucking about with an existing system and need to update the existing grub installation, it's a bit harder. I find that quite unpleasant, I don't get on at all well with grub2. It used to be trivial with the mature LiLo, before the days of initrd, udev etc. Might see about a return to lilo if it is still on the repos. The issue of a separate /usr or not was raised in posts here. Conventional wisdom was always that it is better and the installer does that. My older 1-terra drive has bad blocks. I can partition around them and use it but one a disk has begun to ... well, maybe best to junk it. I have an older 80g IDE will just keeps going and going. / can go there is I cannot achieve any other alternative. Gparted, et al, is/was useful when partitions were 10s of gigas, quite useless for 100s of gigas because it takes sooo long, no indication of what is happening, risk, etc. The option of shortening and moving a 900 giga partition, and then moving the secondary partition in which it and others being moved are contained and only then expanding that / partition, just does not present itself as practical. Might work, leaving things to chug all day and hope, but not attractive. That old 80gig IDE drive can certainly take / and maybe usr and opt as well, things that are not being continually written (like var) and hopefully not effect system speed. Yes, other partitions get mounted to folders there, but ... The procedure would be simple and bulletproof: Copy / to new partition (what is the best way to do this, preserving symlinks and other properties, not running afoul of /sys and such?). Edit /etc/fstab on new / for this root. Lilo.conf is a snap, Run lilo to boot on the IDE so I have both mbr's. If the new one fails because of my clumsiness, use the old one which is still fully functional, fix it, and try again. Disk boot order is set in bios properties. Eventually, that IDE will start the WD click-clack, however. I still have an older 99.99% functional 1-terra but who knows whether its problems will spread. Get another new one and move everything to partitions to my liking, use both new terras, when I have the $. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/12681021.bsrBviDY3E@dovidhalevi
Re: New 64bit Installation. Root partition too small--what to do?
On Du, 27 iul 14, 11:39:52, David Baron wrote: The procedure would be simple and bulletproof: Copy / to new partition (what is the best way to do this, preserving symlinks and other properties, not running afoul of /sys and such?). rsync -ax To minimize downtime you can take advantage of rsync's incremental copy feature and do a first run with the system running and a second one with both partitions mounted from some other system (e.g. a live CD). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
What precise instructions did you follow / what configuration have you supplied mutt to try and send via gmail? My current best guess is you are attempting to connect to gmail's servers on port 25 and your ISP has blocked connections to port 25 for any server except their own, in which case port 587 should work instead. It may be better to configure an MTA on your machine (such as exim by default, in Debian) to send mail to gmail, rather than mutt directly. That way anything generating mail on the system will be set up correctly. -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140727090329.ga25...@bryant.redmars.org
Re: New 64bit Installation. Root partition too small--what to do?
On 07/27/2014 04:48 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 27 iul 14, 11:39:52, David Baron wrote: The procedure would be simple and bulletproof: Copy / to new partition (what is the best way to do this, preserving symlinks and other properties, not running afoul of /sys and such?). rsync -ax That'll work fine on many systems. (x sticks to just the one filesystem, and a for archive includes a bunch of other good options) Even better is rsync -axHAXS That preserves hardlinks, acls, extended attributes, and properly handles sparse files. I usually throw in a v for verbose, and P (Keeps partially copied files and displays progress). P is especially useful if you have a bunch of large files and expect to interrupt/resume the copy at times. To minimize downtime you can take advantage of rsync's incremental copy feature and do a first run with the system running and a second one with both partitions mounted from some other system (e.g. a live CD). Also a great idea. In that case I'd add --delete to the options, as that will remove files in the destination that no longer exist in the source. rsync -avxPHAXS --delete source destination Kind regards, Andrei - PaulNM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d4c23d.3080...@paulscrap.com
Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Du, 27 iul 14, 12:34:17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 7/26/14, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: With sysvinit the default at booting is for the screen messages to fly past at a bewildering speed and then for the screen to be cleared by agetty. I've thought for years, and noted in my fix unix notes that boot messages ought be written starting at the top of the screen, then when they get to the bottom, rather than continuing at the bottom and scrolling, to start at the top again, *without* clearing the screen. You are aware of course that: - scrolling can stopped - the clearing of the screen can be prevented - it's also possible to scroll *back* (surprise, surprise) - the scroll-back buffer can be increased This is the problem with what the current wheezy default seems to be of the screen clearing when the login prompt is reached. Before agetty started doing that, I could usefully scroll back, now it seems to wipe out anything much after checking the root file system. Presumably with jessie I'll get to start playing with TTYVTDisallocate=no or somesuch. -- Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87k36z2n4m@ixod.org
Abnormal shutdown process
Dear ladies and gentlemen,
Since 10 July 2014 my Debian system does not shut down well anymore. I
have worked many hours trying to solve the problem. Now I have decided
to seek some help from the Debian community.
I use the GNOME desktop environment to shut down my computer. My
computer then starts the shutdown process and reports the shutdown
process on my screen. Since 10 July 2014 it often reports that there is
a problem in terminating some processes. My computer then eventually
takes drastic measures to shut the system down. This succeeds and
finally the system is powered off. By powering the system off, all
messages on my screen are lost for careful study.
I have found a method for shutting down the system in such a way that
the messages remain on my screen. The method is to use the shutdown
command, with such options that the system is halted in the end, not
powered off. I also specified that the processes get no less than 10
seconds to end gracefully. The command and the resulting messages are
below.
# shutdown -t 10 -hH now
The system is going down for system halt NOW! (pts/1) (Fri Jul 25
21:36:18 201
INIT: Switching to runlevel: 0
INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal
[info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 0.
[ ok ] Stopping anac(h)ronistic cron: anacron.
[ ok ] Stopping virtual private network daemon:.
[ ok ] Stopping deferred execution scheduler: atd.
saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned
speech dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher
Stopping kerneloops:
[warn] PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions ... (warning).
[ ok ] Stopping MTA: exim4_listener.
[ ok ] Stopping resolvconf ... done.
[ ok ] Stopping GNOME Display manager: gdm3.
[ ok ] Stopping Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Deamon: avahi-daemon.
[ ok ] Shutting down ALSA ... done.
[ ok ] Stopping network connection manager: NetworkManager.
[ ok ] Asking all remaining processes to terminate ... done.
Currently running processes (pstree):
init --- rc --- startpar --- sendsigs --- pstree
|- rpc.statd
|- rpcbind
|- rsyslogd --- 3*[{rsyslogd}]
\- 2*[tracker-extract]
[FAIL] Killing all remaining processes ... failed.
[ ok ] Stopping rcpbind daemon ...
[ ok ] Stopping NFS common utilities: idmapd statd
[] Deconfiguring network interfaces ... invoke-rc.d: --
invoke-rc.d: WARNING: 'invoke-rc.d firestarter restart' called
invoke-rc.d: during shutdown sequence
invoke-rc.d: enabling safe mode: initscript policy layer disabled
invoke-rc.d: --
done.
[info] Saving the system clock.
[info] Hardware clock updated to Fri Jul 25 21:36:32 CEST 2014.
[ ok ] Deactivating swap ... done.
[info] Will now halt.
[535.273160] System halted.
-
After [ ok ] Asking all remaining processes to terminate ... done.
the system seems to hang for about ten seconds. When the option -t 10 is
omitted, the behaviour is the same. Does anyone have an insight in why
some processes do not terminate on the request? Additional information
is below.
On 10 July 2014 I installed a VPN client sofware package with GDebi
package installer, I tested it, and then I deinstalled it with Synaptic.
That day I also suffered a nasty bug in the Nautilus file manager. When
I removed two folders that were in my Downloads folder, all the contents
of my Downloads folder were lost. This was probably because my Home
folder was opened in another Nautilus window, and that Home folder
contained two folders that were identical to the ones I removed.
Because of the incident, I spent most time on checking and improving
the integrity of my system. The current situation is:
- Synaptic tells that no packages are broken.
- The command debsums -l tells that all packages have their md5sums.
- The command debsums -c tells that all packages are essentially
intact.
- The command debsums -se tells that of all the package configuration
files only two files have changed. These are
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic. After inspection, I do not consider
these configuration files the cause of the problem.
- My filesystem has already been checked two times. This happens
automatically after each series of 25 mounts.
I do not have and never had the firestarter package installed.
Kind regards,
Maarten.
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Re: Jessie early boot failure: /sbin/init exists but couldn't execute it (error -8) (initrd corrupt?)
On 2014-07-26, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: dpkg-reconfigure linus-image-3.14-1-686-pae * should put the kernel and initrd in harmony. * x (Not a fantastic contribution to the cause, but what the heck.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlt9ji1.203.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Abnormal shutdown process
On Du, 27 iul 14, 11:00:16, bruninksb...@posteo.de wrote: I do not have and never had the firestarter package installed. Let's see what dpkg has to say about that, please post the output of dpkg -l firestarter Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1
On Du, 27 iul 14, 09:59:21, Mark Carroll wrote: This is the problem with what the current wheezy default seems to be of the screen clearing when the login prompt is reached. Before agetty started doing that, I could usefully scroll back, now it seems to wipe out anything much after checking the root file system. Add --noclear to the getty invocation(s) in /etc/inittab Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New 64bit Installation. Root partition too small--what to do?
On Du, 27 iul 14, 05:11:25, PaulNM wrote: On 07/27/2014 04:48 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 27 iul 14, 11:39:52, David Baron wrote: The procedure would be simple and bulletproof: Copy / to new partition (what is the best way to do this, preserving symlinks and other properties, not running afoul of /sys and such?). rsync -ax That'll work fine on many systems. (x sticks to just the one filesystem, and a for archive includes a bunch of other good options) Even better is rsync -axHAXS That preserves hardlinks, acls, extended attributes, and properly handles sparse files. I'd argue that whoever uses ACLs and extended attributes will also know to preserve them. Point taken on sparse files (though these should be rare / inexistent on a new install) and hardlinks. I usually throw in a v for verbose, and P (Keeps partially copied files and displays progress). P is especially useful if you have a bunch of large files and expect to interrupt/resume the copy at times. .. Also a great idea. In that case I'd add --delete to the options, as that will remove files in the destination that no longer exist in the source. rsync -avxPHAXS --delete source destination Right, forgot about -P and --delete. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: Network traffic monitor
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Re: mounting a Nikon camera
On Sunday 27 July 2014 05:01:56 jeremy bentham wrote: Whaddo I do? Those of us who are cowards just take the memory card out and mount that. (With the help of a card reader.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407271148.23142.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: missing LSB tags and overrides
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: All this, of course, assumes the OP doesn't want to use the previously mentioned suggestion of aptitude purge '~c'. And that's fair enough; aptitude is not to everyone's taste. If you'd rather not use aptitude to purge packages, you can still use it to search: apt-get purge $(aptitude search ~c -F %p) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzbqSd2=H8AOcc_9L=ttbr+HXuuN=rxgikztc5mo9-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: systemd waisted 5 hours of my work time today
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Dňa Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:00:24 +0100 Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk napísal: You are, of course, aware that testing and unstable are test platforms where breakage is to be expected? They shouldn't be used for anything mission critical, that's what stable is for. No, i will not comply with this. The testing must be in state, where it must to boot (except some boot options tweaks) by default. I think, that nobody here will complain if some of software/services on testing doesn't work, but computer must to boot! Can you point to a document where such a commitment has been made or such a criterion has been decided? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzSh4MGCa0Q+t=BHMKMrfkYsK7qoD3T9Zv=m7sbeed...@mail.gmail.com
Exim4 not routing local mail, even after exim4-config
Cannot send mail to user@localhost.localdomain. Fully formed address will work. Applications such as rkhunter and cron-apt that send mail to root--mail is not received. There is a system_notification user and root is aliased to this. Explicit send to root using mail fails regardless of whether address is fully formed. Will get message rejected/timed out error message in some of these cases after a long while. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1495384.Hj3ZI8nz9e@dovidhalevi
Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
On Sat 26 Jul 2014 at 19:56:12 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I've known for a long while that there was something strange about sending mail via my ISP. They have made it clear in that they do not require or use TLS. It You have to authenticate yourself when you join your ISP's network. No further authentication is needed to use their SMTP server; you are a trusted user so TLS is therefore not required. If you send mail through the same server when you are on another network an ISP doesn't trust you and (if they allow the server to be used in this circumstance) might want authentication over TLS. occurs to me that perhaps my computer does not have installed the appropriate certs to function with TLS. How would I ever have known they were missing if they were not being used? So maybe their goofyness has allowed me to miss something that I was doing something wrong from way back when I first got started in Debian in about Y2K. Certs are used for https and these must be on the computer because it manages to connect to my banks (2) , but maybe the ones needed to do SMTP are some The certs used with https are for your benefit, not the benefit of the web site. different? How can I check. I have found some instructions for using gmail You only need a cert if you are *receiving* mail using your own SMTP server. as a smart host and I'm trying to follow them, but things are not working. When I press the 'y' key in mutt to send an What benefit to you is there in using gmail's server to relay mail for you? In what way is your ISP's server deficient? email, the message 'sending...' displays in the bottom line, but it stays there for many minutes when it once would accept an email is just a few seconds. How can I find out what is happening during that time? Is there some debug tool? Thoughts or suggestions? Of possible use: https://lists.debian.org/0c9db5f869098cadf984beb91ffe3950.squir...@webmail.myownsite.me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140727110458.gf27...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: [Wheezy] [networking] post-up NOT executed
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mickael MONSIEUR mickael.monsi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a fresh installation of Debian Wheezy 7.6.0 amd64. The post-up line does not execute when eth0 is mounted! (by against my eth0 interface is mounted!) I have to mount routes, and are not: post-up /sbin/route add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0 simple test: post-up touch /tmp/test reboot (...) cat /tmp/test cat: /tmp/1: No such file or directory Have you ever had this problem? I find nothing in dmesg and syslog! I'm not too sure what cat /tmp/test and /tmp/1 have to do with one another but your route ... syntax looks wrong to me. There's no netmask and no gateway. I haven't used net-tools in a while but I remember: route add [-net|-host] ip_address netmask netmask gw gw_ip_address [dev] etho -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=syo81np-qmyjyvde2xfv+mfwad3s5q28fbavqlskqv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Jessie early boot failure: /sbin/init exists but couldn't execute it (error -8) (initrd corrupt?)
On Sun 27 Jul 2014 at 10:02:41 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-07-26, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: dpkg-reconfigure linus-image-3.14-1-686-pae * should put the kernel and initrd in harmony. * x (Not a fantastic contribution to the cause, but what the heck.) A kiss is always welcome on -user. But don't get too carried away. :) Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27072014121209.58a918416...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: mounting a Nikon camera
On 7/27/14, tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: I have no experience with your model, but the Nikon cameras I know (I use DSLRs) are accessed though PTP and not via usb as mass storage. I use Digikam (which uses libgphoto2) to retrieve the images, I know Gphoto2 and a few other programs can do that to. With a file manager it is sometimes possible to access the camera via a special url, like in Gnome Nautilus gphoto2://[usb:id] where [usb:id] is the numeric usb vendor:device id you get from the lsusb command output. In KDE the Dolphin file manager one can use the special camera:/ address to access such cameras. But in your case the most likely issue is the relative old age of the system, the vendor:device id of your camera may not be among those in the known devices list. In addition to some of the other suggestions, I eventually was able to retrieve images via these routes: * Playing around with GTKam. That was a few years ago. It was a struggle but did eventually work. Don't know if the problems I had with it were because of my newness with Linux/Debian in general or something about the software itself. * One of the disk utility softwares (apologies, forgot which one). Whichever one it was, it recognized the camera was attached when nothing else did and offered the option of mounting it. BOOM, solved just like that. Everything else saw the camera once mounted via whichever disk utility it was. * Not long after finding success with the second choice, I was taste testing a different operating system that didn't include by THAT point already forgotten disk utility name so ended up using a VERY cheap, like $3, $4 memory card reader connected directly via its own dedicated USB port. I note dedicated (its own) because the reader didn't function when connected via a 4-port hub. Have not looked back ever since finding that route. It is SO easy. These days my 10-year-old Thinkpad has an onboard SDHC card slot that makes that choice even easier.. The easy card reader option having been said I'd still keep trying to find what it takes to mount the way you're trying if you have the time to do so. Never know when it might lead to learning that much more invaluable information about your setup.. You'll be someone's Hero one day when they stumble upon your SOLVED subject line matching their own similar compatibility struggle. :) Cindy :) PS I do want to give a k/t to Shotwell. It changed my way of organizing photos. My brain was organizing them mathematically by folder sized batches of 25, 50, 100 when they should really have been by date even though that regularly means folders with 100's of files to sift through.. YES, a *seeming* no-brainer but some of us have to learn the hard way.. *wink, grin* Some file managers have super simple keyboard shortcuts of CTRL+1/CTRL+2 that flip between list and icon view. CTRL++ then enlarges icon images so you can actually view them. Yes, some photo managers offer similar functions, too. Gwenview comes to mind there. *Cognitively* and sometimes _computer resource_ wise, though, it just happens to work better for me to have a limited number of software options performing the bulk of daily personal computing. PPS Another nice thing about Gwenview is that it logically throws videos into the mix when you're reviewing images one-by-one. I did run into regular glitches where Gwenview would freeze up, lock down on videos to the point of having to reboot. That was a while back on a different computer. Could have been low computer hardware resources or something that may have been addressed in Gwenview's upgrades since.. It was somewhere around the (frustrating) point of regularly facing Gwenview systemwide freezes that I accidentally discovered our humble file managers are a reasonable/rational image organizing alternative. From there, you're just one quick right click away from how you want to manipulate your videos and images for publishing on the web or elsewhere.. -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAO1P-kDi2=h8nen8rd8vjqb9ekp30mnprcz7ele-cvrujuy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: systemd support for init level use case
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Gregory Seidman gsslist+deb...@anthropohedron.net wrote: I'm on stable, but I'm reading the threads about systemd and I want to be prepared for the next stable release. I run a RAID1 with an encryption loop and LVM on top of that for my home directories and a number of data volumes (i.e. nothing system-critical like /usr or /var). I boot into init level 2, which does not bring up the RAID, much less encryption, LVM, or mounted filesystems. I then log in as root on the console and run a script to bring up the additional filesystems, particularly the encryption. This requires interaction to supply the password. Once the filesystems are mounted, the script runs /sbin/telinit 3 to start additional services which depend on those filesystems (apache2, exim4, fetchmail, etc.). I don't always want to bring everything up, and I certainly don't want boot to hang on user input waiting for the encryption password. Does systemd have some init level equivalent? Should I be modeling my script as several custom systemd services (which are not automatically started), including some virtual service that depends on all the ones I'm currently bringing up as init level 3? Note that I am not complaining about the upcoming switch to systemd, just trying to understand and prepare for the implications for my particular needs. You can create a target (basicboot.target?) and make that your default either with systemd.unit=basicboot.target on the kernel cmdline of by symlinking it to default.target. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szrhed-fgzy4---rljvwsq03dtn7z5t_sy5wd81yjb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: systemd waisted 5 hours of my work time today
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:47:45 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com napísal: On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Dňa Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:00:24 +0100 Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk napísal: You are, of course, aware that testing and unstable are test platforms where breakage is to be expected? They shouldn't be used for anything mission critical, that's what stable is for. No, i will not comply with this. The testing must be in state, where it must to boot (except some boot options tweaks) by default. I think, that nobody here will complain if some of software/services on testing doesn't work, but computer must to boot! Can you point to a document where such a commitment has been made or such a criterion has been decided? I don't think, that all must be written somewhere. But you can try to test next release, search and report bugs or other contrib with machine which will not boot. Despite this, you can read This way, we hope that `testing' is always close to being a release candidate. in 6.5 chapter of the Debian FAQ. Are you sure, that not booting state is close to be a release candidate? I am not sure with this. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Exim4 not routing local mail, even after exim4-config
On Sun 27 Jul 2014 at 14:06:21 +0300, David Baron wrote: Cannot send mail to user@localhost.localdomain. Fully formed address will work. What is a Fully formed address? Please post here the contents of /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf /etc/hosts /etc/mailname Applications such as rkhunter and cron-apt that send mail to root--mail is not received. There is a system_notification user and root is aliased to this. Explicit send to root using mail fails regardless of whether address is fully formed. You have an unfinished thread already dealing with this issue. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg01219.html Will get message rejected/timed out error message in some of these cases after a long while. Too vague to be of help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27072014123618.c119fe131...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
On Sun 27 Jul 2014 at 10:03:29 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: My current best guess is you are attempting to connect to gmail's servers on port 25 and your ISP has blocked connections to port 25 for any server except their own, in which case port 587 should work instead. He could check with nc. brian@desktop:~$ nc smtp.gmail.com 25 220 mx.google.com ESMTP 19sm41008233wjz.3 - gsmtp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27072014130049.5cf50ed3a...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Wheezy enlightenment packages
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Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
I think I may have found a fix for this. I found some instructions which allowed me to check whether or not I had just done a step correctly before going on to the next step. At the end a window popped up announcing that I had completed the setting up correctly, but that it might take up to 2 days for the setup to take effect. I am waiting, hopefully. Trying something now may just disrupt the process. On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I've known for a long while that there was something strange about sending mail via my ISP. They have made it clear in that they do not require or use TLS. It occurs to me that perhaps my computer does not have installed the appropriate certs to function with TLS. How would I ever have known they were missing if they were not being used? So maybe their goofyness has allowed me to miss something that I was doing something wrong from way back when I first got started in Debian in about Y2K. Certs are used for https and these must be on the computer because it manages to connect to my banks (2) , but maybe the ones needed to do SMTP are some different? How can I check. I have found some instructions for using gmail as a smart host and I'm trying to follow them, but things are not working. When I press the 'y' key in mutt to send an email, the message 'sending...' displays in the bottom line, but it stays there for many minutes when it once would accept an email is just a few seconds. How can I find out what is happening during that time? Is there some debug tool? Thoughts or suggestions? -- Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADQD7YVAh=qkdSmBKEA5CSyAddRGksp=4s4UKeWEjbaOS=x...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [Wheezy] [networking] post-up NOT executed
Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mickael MONSIEUR mickael.monsi...@gmail.com wrote: post-up /sbin/route add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0 your route ... syntax looks wrong to me. Not to me. zenith:~# /sbin/route add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0 zenith:~# /sbin/route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 1.2.3.4 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 eth0 There's no netmask and no gateway. Because it does not need any. It is a direct route to a host address. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d5041f.2030...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
On Sun 27 Jul 2014 at 07:49:47 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I think I may have found a fix for this. I found some instructions which allowed me to check whether or not I had just done a step correctly before going on to the next step. At the end a window popped up announcing that I had completed the setting up correctly, but that it might take up to 2 days for the setup to take effect. I am waiting, hopefully. Trying something now may just disrupt the process. A fix for what? One which takes up to days? Has this got anything to do with what you wrote below? On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I've known for a long while that there was something strange about sending mail via my ISP. They have made it clear in that they do not require or use TLS. It occurs to me that perhaps my computer does not have installed the appropriate certs to function with TLS. How would I ever have known they were missing if they were not being used? So maybe their goofyness has allowed me to miss something that I was doing something wrong from way back when I first got started in Debian in about Y2K. Certs are used for https and these must be on the computer because it manages to connect to my banks (2) , but maybe the ones needed to do SMTP are some different? How can I check. I have found some instructions for using gmail as a smart host and I'm trying to follow them, but things are not working. When I press the 'y' key in mutt to send an email, the message 'sending...' displays in the bottom line, but it stays there for many minutes when it once would accept an email is just a few seconds. How can I find out what is happening during that time? Is there some debug tool? Thoughts or suggestions? -- Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADQD7YVAh=qkdSmBKEA5CSyAddRGksp=4s4UKeWEjbaOS=x...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27072014150838.426513bc4...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: New 64bit Installation. Root partition too small--what to do?
David Baron a écrit : Might be interesting if there were a utility/script to remove from /lib/modules everything not used on the current system. You can build and install your own custom kernel from source instead of the one provided by the distribution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d50583.6040...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Exim4 not routing local mail, even after exim4-config (was New 64bit installation: Exim4 Send to Root)
Cannot send mail to user@localhost.localdomain. Fully formed address will work. What is a Fully formed address? Please post here the contents of Something with real name@hostname.domainname rather than localhost.localdomain. /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf #dc_eximconfig_configtype='internet' dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' dc_other_hostnames='dovidhalevi.homelinux.net' dc_local_interfaces='' #dc_readhost='d_baron' dc_readhost='dovidhalevi.homelinux.net' dc_relay_domains='' dc_minimaldns='false' dc_relay_nets='' dc_smarthost='smtp.012.net.il' CFILEMODE='644' ec_use_split_config='true' dc_hide_mailname='true' dc_mailname_in_oh='true' dc_localdelivery='mail_spool' dc_use_split_config='true' /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 dovidhalevi.homelinux.net dovidhalevi # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters /etc/mailname localhost.localdomain This is the first answer on the reconfig, probably should not be this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2157501.ngKmkL0SEh@dovidhalevi
Re: Exim4 not routing local mail, even after exim4-config (was New 64bit installation: Exim4 Send to Root)
On Sun 27 Jul 2014 at 17:34:54 +0300, David Baron wrote: #dc_eximconfig_configtype='internet' dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' dc_other_hostnames='dovidhalevi.homelinux.net' dc_local_interfaces='' #dc_readhost='d_baron' dc_readhost='dovidhalevi.homelinux.net' dc_relay_domains='' dc_minimaldns='false' dc_relay_nets='' dc_smarthost='smtp.012.net.il' CFILEMODE='644' ec_use_split_config='true' dc_hide_mailname='true' dc_mailname_in_oh='true' dc_localdelivery='mail_spool' dc_use_split_config='true' Looks ok. Apart from the line ec_use_split_config='true'. You have dc_use_split_config='true'; I do not know what ec is. Probably no harm is done. 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 dovidhalevi.homelinux.net dovidhalevi Again looks ok. homelinux.net is some sort of dyndns thing, isn't it? /etc/mailname localhost.localdomain This is the first answer on the reconfig, probably should not be this? This is not ok. Exim uses what is in /etc/mailname to qualify an address without a domain name. For example, if the mail is sent to david then exim cannot let it go out like that so will add localhost.localdomain and send it david@localhost.localdomain. smtp.012.net.il will be unable to deliver it because localhost.localdomain in not in the DNS. The mail should be returned to you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140727154848.ga19...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
capitalone banking website compatibility with iceweasel
The capitalone banking website (https://banking.capitalone.com/) is not working with iceweasel. It does not display the login form. The error message is We're sorry, our system experienced an error displaying the login form. I tried installing xul-ext-useragentswitcher and used Iceweasel - Tools - Default User Agent - Internet Explorer - Internet Explorer 8. This displays the login form but does not let me log in. Has anyone been able to get it to work with iceweasel? rajulocal@hogwarts:~/chess$ dpkg -l iceweasel xul-ext-useragentswitcher chromium ii chromium 35.0.1916.153-2 amd64Chromium web browser ii iceweasel 30.0-2 amd64Web browser based on Firefox ii xul-ext-useragentswitcher 0.7.3-1 all Iceweasel/Firefox addon that allows the user to choose user agents As a temporary work around, I am using chromium which works fine. I tried calling capitalone online banking support ( 877-442-3764 ) who said we support IE, firefox, google chrome but do not support Iceweasel. In fact the tech support person has not even heard of Iceweasel before. I tried making a point that Iceweasel is just a rebranded version of firefox... but their answer is the same. If you are a capital one banking customer and if you use Debian, please call them and make them aware of the problem. May be if enough customers complain, they would do something about it. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/
Re: New 64bit Installation. Root partition too small--what to do?
On 07/26/2014 12:11 PM, David Baron wrote: My older 1-terra drive has bad blocks. I can partition around them and use it but one a disk has begun to ... well, maybe best to junk it. Wipe and recycle it. I have an older 80g IDE will just keeps going and going. / can go there is I cannot achieve any other alternative. I have several 80 GB IDE HDD's that I use as system drives/ spares. They have been very reliable. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d52fad.10...@holgerdanske.com
Re: capitalone banking website compatibility with iceweasel
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:46:31 -0400 kamaraju kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: The capitalone banking website (https://banking.capitalone.com/) is not working with iceweasel. It does not display the login form. The error message is We're sorry, our system experienced an error displaying the login form. The same here (fr, sid, amd64). please call them and make them aware of the problem. May be if enough customers complain, they would do something about it. Bad bank, change bank… First, get a real FF user agent string and re-create it exactly into useragentswitcher; if that doesn't work, then download FF for Linux and install it into your $HOME or /usr/local/. -- CocO : I hope she's gonna like my poem, it comes from my guts! HiM : Is it shit? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: capitalone banking website compatibility with iceweasel
[TopPosting with appropriate apologies ;/ Contacting Tech Support not ALWAYS best route to solving tech problem. Contact your local branch manager with supporting documentation. For this approach to work you must: 1. supply good trouble shooting documentation 2. have established relationship with local branch Been there, Done that, Have the tee-shirt When my bank first rolled out online banking, it had problems. I passed USEFUL diagnostic info to local branch manager. It got passed up on internal network as I had established creditability. Now [~5 years later] there is a different problem. I went up chain of responsibility. Response coming down was not as desired. HOWEVER communication still open. Now I must persuade them that solving the problem is in *THEIR* best interest. kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: The capitalone banking website (https://banking.capitalone.com/) is not working with iceweasel. It does not display the login form. The error message is We're sorry, our system experienced an error displaying the login form. I tried installing xul-ext-useragentswitcher and used Iceweasel - Tools - Default User Agent - Internet Explorer - Internet Explorer 8. This displays the login form but does not let me log in. Has anyone been able to get it to work with iceweasel? rajulocal@hogwarts:~/chess$ dpkg -l iceweasel xul-ext-useragentswitcher chromium ii chromium 35.0.1916.153-2 amd64 Chromium web browser ii iceweasel 30.0-2 amd64Web browser based on Firefox ii xul-ext-useragentswitcher 0.7.3-1 all Iceweasel/Firefox addon that allows the user to choose user agents As a temporary work around, I am using chromium which works fine. I tried calling capitalone online banking support ( 877-442-3764 ) who said we support IE, firefox, google chrome but do not support Iceweasel. In fact the tech support person has not even heard of Iceweasel before. I tried making a point that Iceweasel is just a rebranded version of firefox... but their answer is the same. If you are a capital one banking customer and if you use Debian, please call them and make them aware of the problem. May be if enough customers complain, they would do something about it. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d54b74.50...@cloud85.net
Re: Pin package to any version, don't remove?
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On 07/21/2014 08:38 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
On 07/21/2014 06:18 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 20 iul 14, 08:13:30, The Wanderer wrote:
What I was aiming at with the version-number wildcard is to let a
single pinning stanza work repeatedly, for different
fglrx-driver versions, without need for manual intervention.
Would it be acceptable to pin to a release? Something like
Package: fglrx-driver
Pin: release a=unstable
Priority: 990
Explanation: ...
990 is the priority of the target release (as per
apt_preferences(5)).
It very well might be. I'll try this next time I get a chance
(although *certainly* not with unstable).
Just to report back: I just tried this, and it didn't work. 'apt-get
dist-upgrade' still wants to remove fglrx-driver.
Even 'apt-get dist-upgrade fglrx-{driver,control}', which I used to
dist-upgrade without removing the driver last time, now no longer works;
apt-get doesn't figure out that it can resolve the dependencies by not
upgrading xserver-xorg-core, unless I explicitly hold (or pin) that
package to its current version. Which is another version-specific pin,
exactly what I was trying to avoid.
There are various approaches which look like they *should* work for this
- - logic-, semantics-, and syntax-wise - but as far as I've been able to
find, apparently none of them do...
(aptitude doesn't work much better; it can be made to figure out that
dependency-resolution path, but not before being told no on around a
dozen suggested solutions involving removing fglrx-driver.)
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Re: Pin package to any version, don't remove?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/20/2014 09:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 20 iul 14, 08:13:30, The Wanderer wrote: What I was aiming at with the version-number wildcard is to let a single pinning stanza work repeatedly, for different fglrx-driver versions, without need for manual intervention. Right. I just thought of an entirely different approach: use equivs to create a meta-package with something like: Package: my-dont-ever-remove-packages Depends: fglrx-driver, etc. Priority: required or if that doesn't work replace the Priority with Essential: yes I thought this looked very promising, but it has zero apparent effect. 'apt-get dist-upgrade' simply proposes to remove the new metapackage, along with fglrx-driver et cetera. Yes, even with 'Priority: essential'. Possibly that's a side effect of something else (the default of 'Section: misc', maybe?), but I have nothing to really support that idea. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT1VwFAAoJEASpNY00KDJrIZAQAI/xVnyNeszvQVcvmy2XG3qV irA8wXI4WT3j8PBCt23xMrKVxS8//DjDiOGr6KfjGOQYjNNmaegh0VVUEdHpzT8U kFgePE/UqlRAEoetBQffl4sqtZEqAgrPSSyQgvsXuzuMVZmeQIFeMsSycPHc4cXl uPv8PSRxDX8A/fDKkcYPgKsm76l/TMuwgi4n7okDUrXvwdmffha2Bc6B+9yRxi5L mvMGxuK6ArUKPrsnzoDvxkqtQNVNlc+SO2Hnx3vCPZVFitVGpConkcWSMgd4PWCQ IW6sXHSYVu22r8V9euWAeIIHZ1EiU7b8CJyA3fNuM9/CV6IpXf6lApGvQdt7YTUy qi/lG8PcmlsjiMf497vTp3jsLRhGPi6Y98eKkcjboH8bsfoL7QmD6MrdzJZntPoQ oUdxsDy5HVOl5jIWcS89SxCU+G0+YVEgY1NIYFLuEhpSdZO1BWOiBsNh+sAfrgWH egfuTJ/RwXWk4VT2m2wAakA8NvrsvaUyg2GYH4CHUMpkKR2/FYeTz3KgndbeNPEH Y5mQ+IieeRW/CWhIODbaEKsqYJcU5INg/xf9kRdpp6kPR7BegVpvI3qRWDEyh3EK mWndod7h6MzaFjKU/54esa4B865T5dytbnCpWzzvxzVRuh7J4krAsV3jtqIdv2SS +sjZLuoL3h0zUAjBIf0H =quhF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d55c06.9080...@fastmail.fm
Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 11:20:13AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 27 iul 14, 12:34:17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I've thought for years, and noted in my fix unix notes that boot messages ought be written starting at the top of the screen, then when they get to the bottom, rather than continuing at the bottom and scrolling, to start at the top again, *without* clearing the screen. You are aware of course that: - it's also possible to scroll *back* (surprise, surprise) Can you still? It used to be shiftPageUp, (which didn't work last time I tried) have you found another way? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140727204138.GC11376@tal
Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The SMTP server does not show, as involving TLS (I have no idea, as to what is TLS, only that it is something that has to be addressed in the INBOX path), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security What we used to call Secure Sockets Layer (as in openSSL which has not changed its name to openTLS). Using TLS with e-mail usually involves clicking a box that says something like Use TLS and maybe/probably another that says something like Use STARTTLS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STARTTLS and setting the port number for SMTP connections in the Advanced settings. 465 is supposed to be a common TLS port for SMTP, but I don't recall having used that port in the last ten years or more. The OP will need to check with his mail providers (some of which will not be his ISP) to find out what port(s) can be used. Mail providers have web pages for popular mail client setups, and you have to interpolate a bit from the popular MUA clients to whatever you're using. Mutt, Claws, Sylpheed, etc., are not generally considered popular enough, but you can usually figure out what goes where bye scanning through the MSOutlook and Apple Mail help pages. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNRi3c75+Dy5=X=ptfjxah8awvvejufv4sxyofwmas...@mail.gmail.com
Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd
Miles Fidelman wrote at 2014-07-22 08:25 -0500: Meanwhile, it sure looks like the OpenSolaris spawn (Illumos, OpenIndiana, Nexanta, SmartOS, ... ) are gathering steam as a serious third alternative to Linux and the BSDs. And with enough mid-sized commercial players that we don't have a situation where one company can force something down everybody's throats. Gotta say, as soon as there's a Xen Dom0 for either FreeBSD or Illumos, I'll seriously look at moving. I have been looking at NetBSD, it supports Xen dom0. Like you, I wish for a solid, slim core system with adequate virtualization support to run Linux if necessary. I have also been looking at microkernels for some time now, Minix has some fascinating reliability features[1][2] built in and plans for more. [1]: http://www.minix3.org/other/reliability.html [2]: http://www.minix3.org/docs/jorrit-herder/osr-jul06.pdf It is ironic that a major argument against microkernels is reduced performance from context switching. But the monolithic Linux kernel (now with systemd) has become unmanageably large so now we consider virtualization, on top of a slimmer core, with its own consequent performance loss, for the sake of reliability. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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hi i have 2 issues i would like your help with i just installed Debian 7 i whose using microsoft windows 7 and i back up the files on to a USB and i would like to know how to reinstall the files.i also tried to install a video game and it would not install when i try to install i got a could knot auto run message could you please tell me how to do these things
Re: Finding a replacement for my ISP's smtp server
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I've known for a long while that there was something strange about sending mail via my ISP. (Piques my curiosity.) They have made it clear in that they do not require or use TLS. (Wondering what TLS has to do with strangeness in this case.) It occurs to me that perhaps my computer does not have installed the appropriate certs to function with TLS. My experience is that MUAs really don't mess with certificates. They assume the mail server is legit enough to run through a handshake that involves asymmetric keys, and thus should protect the client from fake servers trying to steal passwords. This approach is considered allowable because you should not really be connecting to random mail servers, and the real server should know how to decrypt your client's encrypted transmission of your password. If you are browsing your mail via the web (thus, https for TLS), your web browser will need certificates for the mail provider's web server. The certificate would be used for the https connection. But that is usually transparent to the user. Pre-installed certificates for everyserver and the kitchen sink on all major browsers including Iceweasel (which I think is a flaw in implementation, but that's a separate issue). How would I ever have known they were missing if they were not being used? So maybe their goofyness has allowed me to miss something that I was doing something wrong from way back when I first got started in Debian in about Y2K. Certs are used for https and these must be on the computer because it manages to connect to my banks (2) , but maybe the ones needed to do SMTP are some different? How can I check. The difference is basically in the way you log in. In http, you start without authentication because you're supposed to be starting in surfing mode (which was supposed to be anonymous, which control-freak companies can't stand). The shift from http to https uses a different handshake protocol which involves the assumption that the browser should recognize or not recognize the https connection by the certificate. (See above opinion on the current implementation.) I have found some instructions for using gmail as a smart host and I'm trying to follow them, but things are not working. I hope the instructions you are using are from Google's own pages. When I press the 'y' key in mutt to send an email, the message 'sending...' displays in the bottom line, but it stays there for many minutes when it once would accept an email is just a few seconds. How can I find out what is happening during that time? Is there some debug tool? Thoughts or suggestions? -- Paul Delays in connections may be due to using port numbers other than the ones the mail provider asks for, or such things. Or it may be the provider or the MUA falling back from the specified mode, and trying other modes. Now that I think of it, I have definitely seen the latter. Set the MUA to try TLS, but allow fallback, and it has to timeout each attempted connection as it falls back. -- Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, and the CPU is just a fancy pen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNuSHbzAkMG50wpm=4mjjwxhe1gdvxpyd_rr_huuqf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Latest Jessie doesn't respond to /etc/default/tmpfs RAMTMP=yes
On Jul 23, 2014, at 2:50 AM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Hi Rick Am 23.07.2014 um 09:12 schrieb Rick Thomas: I’m trying to get /tmp on tmpfs, so I put “RAMTMP=yes” in /etc/default/tmpfs. But I don’t get /tmp/mounted on tmpfs. /etc/default/tmpfs is a sysvinit specific config file. If you are running systemd, enabling /tmp on tmpfs is as simple as “systemctl enable tmp.mount OK, this is my Jessie test VM, so I read-up on systemd and systemctl. Then I did systemctl enable tmp.mount and rebooted. As advertised, I had /tmp mounted on tmpfs. Cool! But… I still can’t figure out how to exercise control over the size and other mount options, the way I used to be able to do under sysvinit using options in /etc/default/tmpfs . Yes, I know I can do all that in /etc/fstab. But I’m testing here, so I’m trying to verify apparent functionality regressions, not look for workarounds. I’m happy to RTFM, but which FM tells me how to do this? Thanks! Rick PS: Yes, definitely, I’m planning to submit a documentation bugreport against initscripts as Michael suggested… but I want to explore the full ramifications of the change before I do — so I don’t ask for the impossible, or ask for something that’s already there that I just didn’t see. PPS: Don’t take this comment the wrong way — I’m all for change, especially if, as with systemd, it improves flexibility, manageability, auditability, speed and security for my systems — but I’m thinking that there will be a lot of folks who stick with Wheezy for a long time because the systemd change is too big for them to swallow. Wheezy may wind up being the “XP” of Debian releases. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/eb417f38-23c6-4bfa-aa38-511219ef3...@pobox.com
Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd
On 07/27/2014 07:32 PM, green wrote: Minix has some fascinating reliability features... Wouldn't it be ironic if Tanenbaum ultimate wins the debate? ;) Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas Hooker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d59667.2070...@charter.net
Re: systemd waisted 5 hours of my work time today
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Dňa Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:00:24 +0100 Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk napísal: You are, of course, aware that testing and unstable are test platforms where breakage is to be expected? They shouldn't be used for anything mission critical, that's what stable is for. No, i will not comply with this. The testing must be in state, where it must to boot (except some boot options tweaks) by default. I think, that nobody here will complain if some of software/services on testing doesn't work, but computer must to boot! Can you point to a document where such a commitment has been made or such a criterion has been decided? You've just touched my hotpoint, Tom -- The post that got me kicked off the Fedora developer list was the one a bit more than two years ago where I questioned Poettering's engineering qualifications specifically because he lead the putsch. (I'm apparently no longer on the auto-mod list over there, but I don't really care any more.) Engineering by putsch is simply not what qualified engineers do to users who have not agreed, up front and beforehand, to be fodder for the putsch. Yeah, when we agree to use Sid or Rawhide, we agree to a certain amount of being guinea pigs, but this is a level or two beyond that, even. Being a little less metaphorical, the shift from sysv-init to anything as comprehensive as systemd necessarily breaks APIs en-masse. The parts that are in the specs may be manageable, but it is known that in systems as complex as OSses, there are more implicit linkages than any single person or any committee can plan for. Implicit linkages are where the API providers' understandings and the API users' understandings have some common base that is not recognized as needed to be written down. But when you expand the reach of the API or the user domain, you discover that the common understanding is not there after all, and then programmers start engineering by rumor and superstition. Both the API and the user domain were not just drastically expanded, but also shifted in this case. Uhm, by shift, I mean that the focus has changed significantly. Systemd is not a replacement for sysv-init. It is a set of brand-new functionality that sysv-init was never intended to implement. And it kind-of-sort-of adds the sysv-init functionality as the spoonful of sugar that is supposed to make the medicine go down. Woops, that's more metaphor. One of the symptoms of this kind of implicit linkage is where the end users end up saying, well, the docs say ordering shouldn't matter, but in this particular case it does. (See several recent threads for recent examples.) The sort of changes being brought in by systemd are so sweeping that we cannot expect them all to be shaken out in the distro's experimental release, even if the agreement to be test users were to agree something to that extreme. So the stable users are going to experience downtime. Period. (I'm not going to bet one way or another as to whether Redhat, as a company, survives this. I will be surprised if it does not slow their profit margins down enough that the board members will be looking for scapegoats.) The real damage, we haven't really seen yet. Good engineers would have set up their own distro to implement systemd in, to knock the bugs out, to prove the utility, and to isolate the fallout. Refer to the way SELinux et. al. have been handled. Any less careful approach is beyond hubris. That's why the systemd group, et. al. are often accused of arrogance. I know you're no fan of systemd yourself, Tom, but you (and rest of the community) have to start seeing where you (and we) have been wangled. In this case, yeah, experimental is experimental, but there are limits. And that was not the way to have done it. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caar43inewfsqxparv64qs1wreqwt29cpprhupakdxhr5mnc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1
On 7/28/14, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 11:20:13AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 27 iul 14, 12:34:17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I've thought for years, and noted in my fix unix notes that boot messages ought be written starting at the top of the screen, then when they get to the bottom, rather than continuing at the bottom and scrolling, to start at the top again, *without* clearing the screen. You are aware of course that: - it's also possible to scroll *back* (surprise, surprise) Can you still? It used to be shiftPageUp, (which didn't work last time I tried) have you found another way? I can feel a FAQ entry comin' on. We need a step by step for us booginners, all in one place. 1) disable vty clearing (My google yesterday failed to easily find this, so I gave up, and I think someone posted it recently too :/ 2) increase scroll-back buffer 3) disable scrolling (I think Andrei said this is possible), but only if it does wrap-around to the top of the screen 4) what key/mouse sequences to use to scroll back 5) commands to view the log after loggin in 6) more? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqyoi0tgwwg0cvs7llmvdwt5cjuhuo3s+8n8bu8x87...@mail.gmail.com
Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Jeff Bauer jwba...@charter.net wrote: On 07/27/2014 07:32 PM, green wrote: Minix has some fascinating reliability features... Wouldn't it be ironic if Tanenbaum ultimate wins the debate? ;) Yeah, things aren't really that simple, but Linus himself admitted in that old flamewar-done-right that he would have preferred to have gone more modular, if the tech had been up to it. The popular CPUs still aren't up to it, and I'm not sure if any existing CPU is. (The problem is not CPU speed, really.) But I'm also planning on playing with Minix a bit this summer. It looks like it's going to be a lot closer to what we would all call useable now. And I'm thinking the question of systemd would be a non-question in minix, and I kind of want to see. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caar43inetdkzye+hynnu3e02a1vv09agekkpx5ds1jrotwt...@mail.gmail.com
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hi i have 2 issues i would like your help with i just installed Debian 7 i whose using microsoft windows 7 and i back up the files on to a USB and i would like to know how to reinstall the files.i also tried to install a video game and it would not install when i try to install i got a could knot auto run message could you please tell me how to do these things
Re: Debian problems
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:32:05 -0500 Stephen Pruitt spruitt...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have 2 issues i would like your help with i just installed Debian 7 i whose using microsoft windows 7 and i back up the files on to a USB and i would like to know how to reinstall the files.i also tried to install a video game and it would not install when i try to install i got a could knot auto run message could you please tell me how to do these things You cannot install/run windows files directly in debian. you need wine and/or virtualbox with a registered copy of windows. same with video game, they are probably windos only programs -- Rodney D. Myers rod_dmy...@fastmail.fm They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: In dire need of assistant desperate lively hood involved.
On 7/28/14, Stephen Pruitt spruitt...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have 2 issues i would like your help with i just installed Debian 7 i whose using microsoft windows 7 and i back up the files on to a USB and i would like to know how to reinstall the files.i also tried to install a video game and it would not install when i try to install i got a could knot auto run message could you please tell me how to do these things I suggest you reinstall on OS that you are familiar with given that you say u r in dire need and lively hood involved. Is the game related to your work? Is there a system administrator where u work? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqkimqtm7s4we0b2fdp9c1khwoapdx-9j9qmkbgcmr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: In dire need of assistant desperate lively hood involved.
ahemPlease don't feed the trolls/ahem On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 7/28/14, Stephen Pruitt spruitt...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have 2 issues i would like your help with i just installed Debian 7 i whose using microsoft windows 7 and i back up the files on to a USB and i would like to know how to reinstall the files.i also tried to install a video game and it would not install when i try to install i got a could knot auto run message could you please tell me how to do these things I suggest you reinstall on OS that you are familiar with given that you say u r in dire need and lively hood involved. Is the game related to your work? Is there a system administrator where u work? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqkimqtm7s4we0b2fdp9c1khwoapdx-9j9qmkbgcmr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian problems
hi,Stephen. there is an optional way that you can install virtualbox(link: http://www.virtualbox.org) or vmware, and then you are able to create a new virtual machine like common pc and install windows 7 or anyother alternative windows system. HAHA, so you can do what you have done in your old win7. have fun. is it a little bit helpful ? regards dc, Gao I am a php beginner, I like Open Source, I love Linux, and I could not help making the most of Debian. I am fond of working my php project on my debian system. Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. -- Gandhi DebianGdc never give up On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Rodney D. Myers rod_my...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:32:05 -0500 Stephen Pruitt spruitt...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have 2 issues i would like your help with i just installed Debian 7 i whose using microsoft windows 7 and i back up the files on to a USB and i would like to know how to reinstall the files.i also tried to install a video game and it would not install when i try to install i got a could knot auto run message could you please tell me how to do these things You cannot install/run windows files directly in debian. you need wine and/or virtualbox with a registered copy of windows. same with video game, they are probably windos only programs -- Rodney D. Myers rod_dmy...@fastmail.fm They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/capaeu30rvpgge4yl5utnplcve9vpy7jo3ekkgyukrmil+so...@mail.gmail.com
Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd
Joel Rees wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Jeff Bauer jwba...@charter.net wrote: On 07/27/2014 07:32 PM, green wrote: Minix has some fascinating reliability features... Wouldn't it be ironic if Tanenbaum ultimate wins the debate? ;) Yeah, things aren't really that simple, but Linus himself admitted in that old flamewar-done-right that he would have preferred to have gone more modular, if the tech had been up to it. The popular CPUs still aren't up to it, and I'm not sure if any existing CPU is. (The problem is not CPU speed, really.) But I'm also planning on playing with Minix a bit this summer. It looks like it's going to be a lot closer to what we would all call useable now. And I'm thinking the question of systemd would be a non-question in minix, and I kind of want to see. Interesting - will be fun to follow. Cheers, Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d5bde2.8090...@meetinghouse.net
Re: capitalone banking website compatibility with iceweasel
On 28/07/2014, kamaraju kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: The capitalone banking website (https://banking.capitalone.com/) is not working with iceweasel. It does not display the login form. The error message is We're sorry, our system experienced an error displaying the login form. I tried installing xul-ext-useragentswitcher and used Iceweasel - Tools - Default User Agent - Internet Explorer - Internet Explorer 8. This displays the login form but does not let me log in. Has anyone been able to get it to work with iceweasel? rajulocal@hogwarts:~/chess$ dpkg -l iceweasel xul-ext-useragentswitcher chromium ii chromium 35.0.1916.153-2 amd64Chromium web browser ii iceweasel 30.0-2 amd64Web browser based on Firefox ii xul-ext-useragentswitcher 0.7.3-1 all Iceweasel/Firefox addon that allows the user to choose user agents As a temporary work around, I am using chromium which works fine. I tried calling capitalone online banking support ( 877-442-3764 ) who said we support IE, firefox, google chrome but do not support Iceweasel. In fact the tech support person has not even heard of Iceweasel before. I tried making a point that Iceweasel is just a rebranded version of firefox... but their answer is the same. If you are a capital one banking customer and if you use Debian, please call them and make them aware of the problem. May be if enough customers complain, they would do something about it. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ Have you tried using Opera (http://www.opera.com/) as a web browser for online banking? It could be worth trying. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8nnmb9um1b1fdzaovv0e++j_olp5qtenrafmtdf1vu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Te snel
op 23-07-14 15:01, Thijs Kinkhorst schreef: Volgens mij zoek je dit: https://wiki.debian.org/bootlogd Dit is inderdaad heel leuk en wat ik wil. Dit kende ik nog niet. Ik ben er alleen niet zeker van of ik alles zie, want na een boot zie ik geen LDAP foutmeldingen. Het is uiteraard mogelijk dat deze er alleen de vorige keer waren, en nu niet... Bedankt! Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d53778.9000...@vandervlis.nl
