Re: tcpip stops working after some time
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:37:44 -0800 (PST) Jeff D fixedo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Micha Feigin wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:07:12 +0200 subscriptions subscripti...@rdegraaf.nl wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 22:10 +0100, Micha Feigin wrote: For some reason after a few days of uptime , tcp stops working on my machine. Ping and dns lookups work, tcp doesn't. I tried both wired and wireless, removing the firewall and unloading all firewall related modules but nothing seems to change. Only restarting seems to help Any ideas what else could it be? Thanks Try 'netstat -atn' to see if you have filled all ports. Here's the output, doesn't seem to me that I filled the ports, but I may be wrong. Not sure what are all those open ports at the 4-6 range I also it seems that the connection is not all dead, it's just really slow (I sometime get a reply to telnet www.google.com 80 after a couple of minutes although it mostly times out. ping works fine. nada in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages vivalunalitshi:tmp# netstat -atn Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp0 0 192.168.1.11:55178 132.66.7.110:80 ESTABLISHED tcp0 1 192.168.1.100:51591 132.66.7.110:80 SYN_SENT tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:51593 132.66.7.110:80 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 1 192.168.1.100:49378 74.125.79.109:995 SYN_SENT tcp0 1 192.168.1.100:51590 132.66.7.110:80 SYN_SENT tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:57531 130.83.165.8:3250 ESTABLISHED tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:42224 87.70.122.110:43754 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 1 192.168.1.100:43329 132.66.7.110:80 SYN_SENT tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:39098 77.127.241.67:10184 ESTABLISHED Best, Rob are you seeing issues with all tcp or just web traffic? One other thing you might want to try out is to fire up tcpdump (tcpdump -i eth0 -n ) and run: traceroute -n google.com and traceroute -n -T google.com The -T there, tells traceroute to send out tcp packets. It could give you some insight on what may be causing this issue, or at least where the issue might be. I have no idea on how to read this. It seems that regular traceroute fails (-n) tcp traceroute works (-n -T) and telnet www.yahoo.com 80 fails (same with google and a few others I testes) Any ideas? vivalunalitshi:mpi$ sudo traceroute -n www.yahoo.com traceroute to www.yahoo.com (69.147.76.15), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * vivalunalitshi:mpi$ sudo traceroute -n -T www.yahoo.com \traceroute to www.yahoo.com (69.147.76.15), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 69.147.76.15 225.569 ms 225.608 ms 180.227 ms vivalunalitshi:mpi$ telnet www.yahoo.com 80 Trying 69.147.76.15... and nada Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny: which arch for a Intel Core 2 Duo?
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:56:43 -0700 Mario morrellmarioc...@qwest.net wrote: Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: Hi all, my new notebook is an Acer AS5930G which uses an Intel Core 2 Duo cpu. I should like to install the 64 bit version of Lenny. Which is the correct arch for this processor? Thanks Mirto P.S. from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ I downloaded the amd64 kde CD But, during the installation all went wrong: * normal graphic intall loops trying to detect the keyboard * expert graphic install goes on until it reaches the disk partitioning, then freezes You need the ia64. no, consumer 64 bit (all amd actually and intel core2 and xeon) are amd64 (intel calls it em64t IIRC but it is compatible to amd's 64 bit extensions). ia64 is itenium 64 bit which is not compatible with core2 or xeon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: tcpip stops working after some time
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:07:12 +0200 subscriptions subscripti...@rdegraaf.nl wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 22:10 +0100, Micha Feigin wrote: For some reason after a few days of uptime , tcp stops working on my machine. Ping and dns lookups work, tcp doesn't. I tried both wired and wireless, removing the firewall and unloading all firewall related modules but nothing seems to change. Only restarting seems to help Any ideas what else could it be? Thanks Try 'netstat -atn' to see if you have filled all ports. Here's the output, doesn't seem to me that I filled the ports, but I may be wrong. Not sure what are all those open ports at the 4-6 range I also it seems that the connection is not all dead, it's just really slow (I sometime get a reply to telnet www.google.com 80 after a couple of minutes although it mostly times out. ping works fine. nada in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages vivalunalitshi:tmp# netstat -atn Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:28147 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:38422 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 192.168.1.11:55178 132.66.7.110:80 ESTABLISHED tcp0 1 192.168.1.100:51591 132.66.7.110:80 SYN_SENT tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:51593 132.66.7.110:80 ESTABLISHED tcp0 1 192.168.1.100:49378 74.125.79.109:995 SYN_SENT tcp0 1 192.168.1.100:51590 132.66.7.110:80 SYN_SENT tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:57531 130.83.165.8:3250 ESTABLISHED tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:42224 87.70.122.110:43754 ESTABLISHED tcp0 1 192.168.1.100:43329 132.66.7.110:80 SYN_SENT tcp0 0 192.168.1.100:39098 77.127.241.67:10184 ESTABLISHED tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::*LISTEN tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::*LISTEN vivalunalitshi:tuxonice-head# netstat -tulpen Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State User Inode PID/Program name tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:28147 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1000 11961 5101/skype tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:38422 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1000 643814 4753/gdl_indexer tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 0 61124041/sshd tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 0 61534066/cupsd tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN 0 621869 23059/exim4 tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::*LISTEN 0 61104041/sshd tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::*LISTEN 0 61544066/cupsd udp0 0 127.0.0.1:35370 0.0.0.0:* 1000 92115101/skype udp0 0 0.0.0.0:68 0.0.0.0:* 0 1224846 16412/dhclient udp0 0 0.0.0.0:68 0.0.0.0:* 0 360014 29605/dhclient udp0 0 0.0.0.0:28147 0.0.0.0:* 1000 11962 5101/skype udp0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* 0 61564066/cupsd Best, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:49:43 -0200 Ismael Scalcon thesupermo...@gmail.com wrote: That's why we recommend a netbook. It's light, small and the power supply of my EEE 701 is smaller than my cell phone charger. Like I said in my original post, it's an issue of screen and computing power. I'm looking for a powerful laptop (core2 T9500 or simillar) with a 15 display so that I can work on it without using an external monitor at home and in the office. Netbooks are nice for the occasional work outside, carrying and repairing presentation and watching movies on the go. They are not work machines. They do have the advantage of being cheep, but like I said, I was looking for sane in work terms (~1500$) so that is not the issue. I do have a friend who claims that he can run matlab on an eee pc, but I still think that it's fiction ;-) 2008/12/14 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:34:48 +0100 Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:37:04 +0100 Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/12/11 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il: Hello, Sorry for being a bit off topic Thank in advance for your any advice or recommandation. I would go with the vosotro line if you want to save money and stick with dell. The inspiron is similar to all other home lines which are cheap in all respects, not just the money. I like the t61 but it's old now. the t500 are out, but the reviews are mixed, apparently the keyboard has been replaced with a cheaper one. They are not cheap of course, but you abuse your laptop it will probably pay off. A friend of mine has the vosotro 1440 I think (I believe it has been replaced also with a newer model) and he is rather happy with it. Another one is willing to kill anyone who considers anything other than macs. Thanks for those hints. I will carry a bit more search into the vosotro line. At the time I had purchased my old Thinkpad 600, it was bound to be my main home personal computer, so I was prepared to pay the price for something really good and nice for my eyes..., but now that I mostly use a recent good desktop, my new laptop will only serve on an occasional basis ; however I want it reliable and not fragile, and powerful enough as far as wifi is concerned. One other thing that people often forget to look at when buying a laptop. If you plan to have it mobile, check out the size of the power supply. The cheaper laptops may look initially not much heavier than the more expensive ones but the power supply can be a serious brick that can add more than an extra pound to the total weight -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:34:48 +0100 Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:37:04 +0100 Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/12/11 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il: Hello, Sorry for being a bit off topic Thank in advance for your any advice or recommandation. I would go with the vosotro line if you want to save money and stick with dell. The inspiron is similar to all other home lines which are cheap in all respects, not just the money. I like the t61 but it's old now. the t500 are out, but the reviews are mixed, apparently the keyboard has been replaced with a cheaper one. They are not cheap of course, but you abuse your laptop it will probably pay off. A friend of mine has the vosotro 1440 I think (I believe it has been replaced also with a newer model) and he is rather happy with it. Another one is willing to kill anyone who considers anything other than macs. Thanks for those hints. I will carry a bit more search into the vosotro line. At the time I had purchased my old Thinkpad 600, it was bound to be my main home personal computer, so I was prepared to pay the price for something really good and nice for my eyes..., but now that I mostly use a recent good desktop, my new laptop will only serve on an occasional basis ; however I want it reliable and not fragile, and powerful enough as far as wifi is concerned. One other thing that people often forget to look at when buying a laptop. If you plan to have it mobile, check out the size of the power supply. The cheaper laptops may look initially not much heavier than the more expensive ones but the power supply can be a serious brick that can add more than an extra pound to the total weight -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: tp_smapi config
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:02:47 -0400
tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:23:35 -0400
tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
Winfried Tilanus winfr...@tilanus.com writes:
Install the tp_smapi modules. See http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
for more information.
oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
my kernel, and according to the documentation on thinkwiki, I can set
the start and stop thresholds with this:
echo 40 /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/start_charge_thresh
echo 70 /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/stop_charge_thresh
Except that there is no /sys/devices/platform/smapi directory on my
system, and I cannot create the directory with mkdir. I searched my
entire system for smapi directories, BAT0 directories, or files names
{start,stop}_charge_thresh, but none exist. I tried rebooting, in case
there was some mystic kernel thing going on, but that didn't help. I
tried modprobe -l, which confirmed that the smapi modules were loaded:
do lsmod to make sure that they are loaded
lsmod | grep smapi
modprobe tp_smapi
and if you want it to load automatically at startup you will want to do as root
echo tp_smapi /etc/modules
produces nothing, so they aren't loaded. How do I load them? I'm not
using a custom kernel, so the instructions on ThinkWiki lead me to
believe that all I needed to do was
aptitude install tp-smapi-modules-`uname -r`
I guess there's more to it?
Thanks,
Tyler
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Re: tp_smapi config
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:27:55 -0400 tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote: Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:02:47 -0400 tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote: oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for my kernel, modprobe tp_smapi and if you want it to load automatically at startup you will want to do as root echo tp_smapi /etc/modules Thanks! Is this a documentation bug, or is it something that we should reasonably assume a new user of tp-smapi should know? Or maybe there's no bug, just something I misunderstood in the tp-smapi docs at think-wiki? Usually debian packages install themselves in such a way that they start working without further tweaking. It's an issue with kernel modules. They need to be loaded to work and I guess that it is assumed that you know that if you use package that install kernel modules. I'm guessing that it's the debian policy to force module loading on you, plus there is not standard way AFAIK at the moment to handle package customized module loading in /etc/modules Most hardware related modules load automatically when the hardware is detected, this doesn't happen with tp_smapi, I don't know if it can be made to work with some alias entry in /etc/modprobe.d/ as I don't know if and how this hardware is actually detected. Cheers, Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:24:35 -0500 Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:39:26 -0200 Ismael Scalcon thesupermo...@gmail.com wrote: ... Also, my girlfriend has bought herself an Acer Aspire (not the One), and, so far, we had no problems with it. I've been using an Acer (Aspire 3690) for about two years with no problems yet, but I baby it; I've never dropped it, spilled anything into it, sat on it, etc. The battery life is quite low, only about an hour and a half when new, but I nearly always use it on AC. [Tangent: my impression is that that will help preserve the battery life, as charge / discharge cycles reduce it. Is this true?] Not completely, what newer batteries hate is heat, over and under charging. If it's always plugged in it may kill the battery rather quickly. What I have on my current thinkpad is the ability to stop charging before 100% and that can add quite a bit of like to the battery. A friend of mine as a lenovo 3000 (very bad track record with them with the university staff), which was always plugged in and almost always on, the battery is mostly dead in a year. I've never dealt with Acer support. This was already a low end machine when I purchased it, but it is quite usable for my needs: Celeron M 420 @ 1.6GHZ 512MB RAM (recently upgraded to 2GB, not because I needed it, but because I found a steal on RAM) 60GB HDD Broadcom wireless (4318, supported perfectly by b43) 15 inch screen, Intel 945GM graphics Intel 82801G stuff inside The OP asked about performance, but IIUC, that will depend mostly on the actual components used, not on the build quality or any special sauce of the integrator. I daresay I'm oversimplifying, and I'll appreciate corrections Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:12:47 -0200 Ismael Scalcon thesupermo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, both my EEE Pc and my girlfriend's Aspire 4520 stop charging the battery when 100% (the battery charging light turn off and the OS energy manager just says Using AC instead of Charging. Both in my EEE Pc Debian and My girlfriends Aspire Windows XP. 100% is too much for normal work, the battery has a better lifespan if you limit it to 90% or so, but AFAIK this is only possible with (possibly newer) thinkpads. 2008/12/12 Michael Shuler mich...@pbandjelly.org: On 12/12/2008 05:58 AM, tyler wrote: Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes: Not completely, what newer batteries hate is heat, over and under charging. If it's always plugged in it may kill the battery rather quickly. What I have on my current thinkpad is the ability to stop charging before 100% and that can add quite a bit of like to the battery. How do you do this? I've got a thinkpad R60, and I've been plugging it in when it runs low, then (when I remember), unplugging it when it reaches full charge. Is there some way to automate this? I know the Windows partition has some configuration options, but I don't know how to do this under Debian. Been using settings for charge control from here for a year or so: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi#Battery_charge_control_features -- Kind Regards, Michael Shuler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:10:35 -0500 Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:20:03 +0200 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: ... Not completely, what newer batteries hate is heat, over and under charging. If it's always plugged in it may kill the battery rather quickly. What I have on my current thinkpad is the ability to stop charging before 100% and that can add quite a bit of like to the battery. Thanks for the information. I've been using my laptop for about two years, for an average of probably several hours of power-on a day. The design_charge is 200, and the current / now charge is 1792000, so I suppose it hasn't degraded too badly yet. This is, I believe, a bottom of the barrel battery, on a rather low end system, which I guess also means less power draw, although my understanding is that the Celeron has crippled power management. When new, I got a fairly consistent 1.5 hours till shutdown, and I haven't done a drain test recently. You mention overcharging; as Ismael says in another message in this thread, the system seems to know when the battery is full and stops charging; the power LED goes from red to green, and ACPI reports full, not charging. Does it really keep charging, to the detriment of the batter? It depends on how good they built the circuitry. If the led changes color then I guess that it actually stops charging. The issue is like this, battery charge percentage isn't an exact value, to make sure that you are at a 100% you need to over charge it and see that it stops there. If you stop at approximately 80% you're not over charging. Apart from that, if you disconnect and reconnect again, you start charging again even if it dropped just to 99.5%. What I do is set a stop charge limit at 85% and a start charge limit at 75% so it doesn't immediately start charging again. The problem is that this is possible only with newer thinkpads AFAIK. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
tcpip stops working after some time
For some reason after a few days of uptime , tcp stops working on my machine. Ping and dns lookups work, tcp doesn't. I tried both wired and wireless, removing the firewall and unloading all firewall related modules but nothing seems to change. Only restarting seems to help Any ideas what else could it be? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: tp_smapi config [Was OT: laptop recomendations]
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:23:35 -0400
tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
Winfried Tilanus winfr...@tilanus.com writes:
Install the tp_smapi modules. See http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
for more information.
oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
my kernel, and according to the documentation on thinkwiki, I can set
the start and stop thresholds with this:
echo 40 /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/start_charge_thresh
echo 70 /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/stop_charge_thresh
Except that there is no /sys/devices/platform/smapi directory on my
system, and I cannot create the directory with mkdir. I searched my
entire system for smapi directories, BAT0 directories, or files names
{start,stop}_charge_thresh, but none exist. I tried rebooting, in case
there was some mystic kernel thing going on, but that didn't help. I
tried modprobe -l, which confirmed that the smapi modules were loaded:
do lsmod to make sure that they are loaded
/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/extra/tp-smapi/thinkpad_ec.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/extra/tp-smapi/tp_smapi.ko
I'm a little over my head - What do I need to do to get this set up?
Thanks,
Tyler
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Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:37:04 +0100 Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/12/11 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il: Hello, Sorry for being a bit off topic but it's time for a new laptop that will run linux solely and I'm looking for recomendation on what has a good build quallity (will travel), descent battery life, although more important is good computing power and a good screen at 15.4 (needs to be workable with the screen) at a price range of around 1500$ rough ballpark. Good service is a must since it's a working laptop. I know that hp and compaq are a big no no (build quality is shaky at best). I also have the worst experience possible with Sony support on just about every continent (haven't managed to run into worse). Lenovo 3000 series also has a bad track run at our uni in terms of build quallity, no experience with the ideapad pad heard that they are not much brighter. Currently the best candidates are the lenovo thinkpad series (either stick with the older and probed t61 or go with the t500 or similar), mac (not sure about the one button issue although the design is nice). Runner up is Dell, although the hardware seems a bit cheap when looking at the drivers (especially the touchpad which tends to be alps which isn't up to par with the synaptic). Toshiba local dealers didn't prove themselves with a friends laptop. Can't find anyone with experience with lg and fujitsu. Will be happy for feedback/experience/hardware trouble/Service experience in case of mulfunciton etc. Thanks I've got a Dell Inspiron E1505 / 6400 2.0 gHz Duo Core laptop with 2GB of RAM that I've been lugging on my back since January 2007. 15.4 1680x1050 screen, works great with Compiz, wifi, bluetooth. Terrific keyboard too. At the time it was about $1200 but it should be less now. My only regret is the 80 GB hard drive, which is too small. Be sure that you get a 7200 RPM hard drive no matter what size you buy. I have read this thread with much interest, since I am planning to purchase a new laptop. My old IBM Thinkpad 600 is too old (about 8 years old). I might have bought a Lenovo Thinkpad T61, but they are awfully expensive here : in the range 1800 to 2400 Euros, while DELL is much cheaper (380 Euros for a DELL Inspiron 1525, which is 4-5 times cheaper). The Inspiron 1505 no longer exists, as they write on their website, pointing out that the new 1525 is better and cheaper. Does anyone know about that DELL Inspiron 1525 ? It is being sold with Ubuntu v8.04 installed, but I plan to install Debian Etch instead, maybe even Lenny. Its default characteristics are as follow : It's a bit of apples and oranges. The dell inspiron is a home laptop, which should be compared (somewhat) to the r series if you go for the proper thinkpad line or the lenovo 3000 which at least in our uni, they recomend the staff to avoid since people have had a lot of problems with. The t61 is more comparable to the latitude line (business) and vostro (small business, cheaper but a bit heavier) In general Dells are cheaper though, but they also give you less. - Intel Celeron processor 560 (2.13 GHz, 533 MHz FSB - 1 MB L2 cache Thats borderline for a new computer - screen WXGA 15.4 (1280x800) Thats the low end screens. If there is an option for 1440xwhatever or 1680x1050 I would go for it as those are better screens - HD 120 GB 5400 rpm - battery 6 cells (I suppose it is a Li-ion, but it is not specified) There is an extra charge of 85 Euros if you want a HD 160 GB that spins at 7200 rpm ; an extra charge of 240 Euros for a processor Intel Core 2 duo TB100 ; and an extra charge of 300 Euros for Intel Core 2 duo TB300 What are you planning to use the laptop for? For office and network it's ok, if you want a little more I would go with the core 2, although I don't know these models. I might request the HD that spins at 7200 rpm since it is being said that it is safer in case of fall. Don't know about safer in case of a fall, it's not due to the 7200rpm, could be a harddisk feature. My current t61 thinkpad has accelerometers that park the drive (software daemon) in case of a fall or a hit. Depends on drive support for parking the heads though Thank in advance for your any advice or recommandation. I would go with the vosotro line if you want to save money and stick with dell. The inspiron is similar to all other home lines which are cheap in all respects, not just the money. I like the t61 but it's old now. the t500 are out, but the reviews are mixed, apparently the keyboard has been replaced with a cheaper one. They are not cheap of course, but you abuse your laptop it will probably pay off. A friend of mine has the vosotro 1440 I think (I believe it has been replaced also with a newer model) and he is rather happy with it. Another one is willing to kill anyone who considers anything other than macs
Re: Video editing
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:34:53 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/10/08 13:11, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: Another thing I want to do is adding a simple text presentation at the beginning of the file Arc Roca [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Write your text say with tex, do dvipng, then convert the pngs into a short movie with gimp or something else. Then attach at the beginning of your movie.You can use any editor to create your text, including openoffice, or scribus. If you want fancy fonts, etc. Rodolfo Medina wrote: It would be very nice to manage to do such a thing, i.e. transform an image into a movie! I didn't manage with gimp: how can I achieve this? And, Ron, once converted the image into a movie, will it be possible to attach it to the video with plain old cat? Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is that Arc Roca's comment about text editing makes no sense in the context of video editing. But, if what he says is true, that would be a solution, wouldn't it? tex is used for writing text books and scientific papers. I guess that if you need to create PowerPoint-style presentations but really hate every other dedicated presentation tool, you could use latex, dvipng, convert and ffmpeg to create an AVI file. Probably off topic, but for powerpoint style presentations with tex there are several packages that produce pdf, avi sounds inappropriate for a presentation. beamer is my personal favorite But *why*??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: laptop recomendations
Hello, Sorry for being a bit off topic but it's time for a new laptop that will run linux solely and I'm looking for recomendation on what has a good build quallity (will travel), descent battery life, although more important is good computing power and a good screen at 15.4 (needs to be workable with the screen) at a price range of around 1500$ rough ballpark. Good service is a must since it's a working laptop. I know that hp and compaq are a big no no (build quality is shaky at best). I also have the worst experience possible with Sony support on just about every continent (haven't managed to run into worse). Lenovo 3000 series also has a bad track run at our uni in terms of build quallity, no experience with the ideapad pad heard that they are not much brighter. Currently the best candidates are the lenovo thinkpad series (either stick with the older and probed t61 or go with the t500 or similar), mac (not sure about the one button issue although the design is nice). Runner up is Dell, although the hardware seems a bit cheap when looking at the drivers (especially the touchpad which tends to be alps which isn't up to par with the synaptic). Toshiba local dealers didn't prove themselves with a friends laptop. Can't find anyone with experience with lg and fujitsu. Will be happy for feedback/experience/hardware trouble/Service experience in case of mulfunciton etc. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freeze SO Linux, it's possible?
Tux on ice www.tuxonice.org has a keep image mode, although you need to be really careful with such stuff. You need to make sure that disks that do change are unmounted before you make the image or it will trash your drive (missmatch between memory state and disk state) On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:34:22 -0500 James Kosin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carlos Carrero Gutierrez wrote: Hi, i would like to freeze my linux in order to freeze the OS, then, when I reboot the computer all changes that i made in the computer dissapears and it returns to the previous OS freezed. In windows there is something similar, called Deep Freeze (it's freeware). Somebody could help me? Thank you very much, I appreciate your help. Deep Freeze is also available for Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xfce doesn't recognize screen height on rotation
I'm trying to get xrandr -o left to work properly with an nvidia card on two machines under xfce (rotate the screen). The problem seems to be that the screen rotates but either X or xfce doesn't realize the change and when I maximize windows the maximize horizontally but vertically they only go to the previous resolution (about 3/4 of the screen) Any ideas? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS boot with a dhcpless network
I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs root. The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible to do it without one) and the network card is only supported with newer kernels (2.6.28-rc). Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal system and boot from it? Any pointers on how to set this up? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Making sure eth interfaces are numbered consistently
Hello, i have 4 network interfaces in my machine all using the e1000e driver. Can I be assured that they are all numbered consistently on each boot (i.e that the same card is always eth0) or if not, is there a way to force it? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:27:28 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote: I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs root. The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible to do it without one) and the network card is only supported with newer kernels (2.6.28-rc). Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal system and boot from it? Any pointers on how to set this up? PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests the boot files from the server. Or am I misunderstanding your questions? Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot is dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that it has a boot image to provide, or am I wrong. I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root, not resolve these values at run time thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:14:23 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/09/08 13:47, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 2008 December 09 11:49:42 Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/09/08 11:25, Micha Feigin wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:27:28 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/09/08 09:58, Micha Feigin wrote: I want to setup three machines to boot over the network from an nfs root. The network doesn't have a dhcp server (I prefer if it's possible to do it without one) and the network card is only supported with newer kernels (2.6.28-rc). Is there a way to do it through grub or do I need to setup a minimal system and boot from it? Any pointers on how to set this up? PXE boot seems like what you want, where the client's NIC requests the boot files from the server. Or am I misunderstanding your questions? Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot is dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that it has a boot image to provide, or am I wrong. I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root, not resolve these values at run time Hmmm, yes, you're right. There's got to be a way, though, using bootp, MAC address and tftp, since that's how we did it 10 years ago with X Terminals. DHCP is an extension to bootp. Anything you were doing with bootp 10 years ago should be done with DHCP today. IIRC, dhcpd from ISC can do bootp without the DHCP extensions. And, yeah, for a full PXE boot, you will need a TFTP server on the network. (It could be the DHCP server, but doesn't have to be.) I could be wrong, but I believe that PXE is actually proprietary Intel extensions to and older, standard netboot protocol. If you just want NFS root, it's suppored by the kernel, I think something like root=IP:/path, but you'll need some storage in the clients for the bootloader, kernel image, and initrd (if any). If you want the kernel image and initrd loaded from the network, you'll need a DHCP server that responds to requests with the IP of the TFTP server (as path to the file?). That response will have to include some IP address, possibly with a very short lease, that the client will use during the TFTP download. This IP can, of course, be overridden with configuration in the kernel/initrd. You can do both and, if the client needs access to more data than fits in RAM, you'll need to. The kernel/initrd will be loaded from the TFTP server specified in the DHCP response. The initrd will then mount the NFS root filesystem and chroot/switch_root/pivot_root into it. And can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses? So even though OP doesn't want to use DHCP, he'd use it but not for it's usual purpose... I can't use a dhcp server on this network. These machines are exposed to the general network which already has a dhcp server and if I add another one I'm going to cause trouble over the whole network. Besides a dhcp server with the specific setup is going to be a serious pain. The machines do have disks which are meant mostly for local user data. The idea is to have as little as possible in terms of a system on each machine to make it easier to maintain and keep safe from the users. Looks like the easiest solution is to have grub and a kernel installed locally on each machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:46:31 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/09/08 15:38, Micha Feigin wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:14:23 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] And can't you tell DHCP to associate IP addresses to MAC addresses? So even though OP doesn't want to use DHCP, he'd use it but not for it's usual purpose... I can't use a dhcp server on this network. These machines are exposed to the general network which already has a dhcp server and if I add another one I'm going to cause trouble over the whole network. Besides a dhcp server with the specific setup is going to be a serious pain. The machines do have disks which are meant mostly for local user data. The idea is to have as little as possible in terms of a system on each machine to make it easier to maintain and keep safe from the users. Looks like the easiest solution is to have grub and a kernel installed locally on each machine. The existing dhcp server could point the diskless machines to the machine that has the boot files on it. Or would that entail too much bureaucracy and/or interference from know-nothing MSCEs? It's a university departmental dhcp server, do you think that there is any chance that I can convince them to do something like that ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:32:02 -0200 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carlos Carrero Gutierrez wrote: Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it can be not interactive (of course). Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a paquet is correct or not. Somebody could help me? Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting) netstat will show open connections. There are some options for filtering what is displayed and what is not, check the man page. There is netstat -tulpen will show you open connections and by which program (the program feature will only work if you run as root), but is not continuous, i.e if you want an update you will need to run it again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the cost of ethernet bridging
I was thinking of using ethernet bridging to simplify naming and routing on my system. This system consists of four computers all interconnected. The question is whether there is any hidden cost, as I need the cards to work at full throughput (three ethernet cards). So, will this just give me the same ip for all three cards or will it also start copying data from one port to the other? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building kernels the Debian way
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:45:08 +0100 Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-12-08 23:01 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Sven Joachim: Finally, some good advice. But before this step, you need to copy your old config to linux-2.6.22.1/.config and cd to the kernel directory. The copy should be unnecessary as long as the current config is available from /proc/config.gz. As long as it available, but is it? I thought the Debian kernels are built without CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC because that wastes some memory and the config is always available from /boot/config-$(uname-r). You have the config in /boot/config-kernel version That way it doesn't take memory. Either way, I suggest to go through the hassle to start with a minimal configuration and only enable those options you need now (or which you think you may need later). This has two main benefits: kernel compile time drops *significantly* and you don't need to mess with initrds. And has the additional benefit that you learn a lot the hard way by building kernels that fail to boot or lack important features. In this case, however, it is best not to bother with make-kpkg at all; the make make install make modules_install triplet will save a lot of time on subsequent compilations. make-kpkg doesn't rebuild everything, just the same as make. If you want to change the version number you can just remove the debian directory and do make-kpkg again with a different --revision Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changing execution permissions with thunar?
Is it possible to change the execution permissions of a file in thunar? All I could find was read/write permissions and even that I can't seem to do in batch mode, only one file at a time. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
remote system administration - grub via serial cable?
I'm trying to do some kernel development remotely which requires reboots and the occasional kernel panic on start which is very annoying since then I need to wait a few days until I get to the computer or someone knowledged enough is around it to restart it into a working configuration. Is there some way to control grub, see the startup text and reboot remotely in case of kernel panic such as through a serial cable (although I need to check if that motherboard actually has a serial port as these are hard to come by these days). Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question about a linux embedded router i have
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:25:04 -0700 CJ Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, ive been searching for hours and found very little information, but what I have is a StepTech MAAT router which has linux embedded. Since DHCP is not enabled by default on this router, i have to statically address everything. I wonder if any of you would be able to help me because i dont have any documentation on this router and i do not know what the routers address is. In what sense does dhcp not work? can you connect to the outside world? If so then you need to have an address assigned to the local computer and a default gateway (look at the output of route -n). The default gateway should be the router (although they sometimes have different address for router access and network access, in these cases the router needs to be disconnected from the external network to be accessed locally). Additional Information: Serial Number: PA32000688 Model: MAAT Everything powers up and it runs just fine (infact you can hear the little hard drive in there going) I seriously doubt that it's a harddrive in there, these things are usually solid state. Could be a fan, but those are rare also (it's usually air cooled with no moving parts). TIA --CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building a cluster with debian?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:40:45 +0200 Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 04:53:45PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: I believe there is software out there that will do that, I read about some recently, but can't find reference to it now :( Have a look at http://gridengine.sunsource.net/ Thanks, looks like a glorified pbs mostly but may be of some help. I was hoping to somehow abuse numa and processor queues to make the cluster look as a single numa computer but that seems to require hardware support (multi processor numa system and not several systems combined into one numa). The solutions I found so far: 1. Hardware - Buy a very expensive multi opetron system (not an option at this time) 2. ssi (single system image) cluster, seems to be what I want, it's just not clear to me at the moment if there is anything that can properly migrate threads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-system_image 3. Batch/Grid systems Your reference seems to fall into the third category. The problem with this is that you either need to use mpi or cluster openmp (which I haven't managed to get working on non-opetron systems) or to run several unconnected jobs in parallel. I prefered number 2 but as I said, it doesn't seem to handle multi threaded and shared memory programs, most of them not even as a whole (i.e once you have threads the whole job will not migrate). I want to get more threads for matlab. The solution is matlab distributed computing (which costs about 4000$, not cheap also), and agian, mostly allows managing several jobs in parallel on a cluster but not a massively parallel job I will read a bit more into these as the machines are supposed to arrive tomorrow finally (4 quad core machines). Will try to give a followup if anyone is interested. Regards Johann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building a cluster with debian?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:18:37 +0200 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:40:45 +0200 Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 04:53:45PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: I believe there is software out there that will do that, I read about some recently, but can't find reference to it now :( Have a look at http://gridengine.sunsource.net/ Thanks, looks like a glorified pbs mostly but may be of some help. I was hoping to somehow abuse numa and processor queues to make the cluster look as a single numa computer but that seems to require hardware support (multi processor numa system and not several systems combined into one numa). The solutions I found so far: 1. Hardware - Buy a very expensive multi opetron system (not an option at this time) 2. ssi (single system image) cluster, seems to be what I want, it's just not clear to me at the moment if there is anything that can properly migrate threads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-system_image Looks like current options are LinuxPMI ( continues that dropped openmosix project) Kerrighed (web page says that they are planning to allow thread migration in november) Mosix 2 (commercial) Looks like all of them support comunication through pipes, doesn't seem like any of them support thread migration yet, would love to hear otherwise. 3. Batch/Grid systems Your reference seems to fall into the third category. The problem with this is that you either need to use mpi or cluster openmp (which I haven't managed to get working on non-opetron systems) or to run several unconnected jobs in parallel. I prefered number 2 but as I said, it doesn't seem to handle multi threaded and shared memory programs, most of them not even as a whole (i.e once you have threads the whole job will not migrate). I want to get more threads for matlab. The solution is matlab distributed computing (which costs about 4000$, not cheap also), and agian, mostly allows managing several jobs in parallel on a cluster but not a massively parallel job I will read a bit more into these as the machines are supposed to arrive tomorrow finally (4 quad core machines). Will try to give a followup if anyone is interested. Regards Johann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
centralized authentication
I am trying to setup a local cluster in uni and I need a simple centralized authentication method (so that all users are defined on all computers and have the same passwork). Is there a (relatively) easy way to do this? not sure if just mounting etc (or the whole root system) through nfs is the best way, but it may work thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
volume osd with xfce
Is it possible to get a volume osd such as in gnome with xfce/xfwm? I tried replacing xfce-mcs-settings with gnomes-settings-daemon, it mostly works, also using gnome solves this but the problem which is a deal breaker for me for both options is that you can't bind mod4 (the windows key) with gnome-settings-manager as far as I can tell (a bug that has been around for about 3 years now and still hasn't been fixed). Will be happy to learn that there is an osd option for xfce or that the mod4 bug in gnome has finally been fixed. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: centralized authentication
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:37:44 -0500 Brian Schrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good simple solution is pam mysql. You just stick the users in mysql tables and configure pam and a few other files. In my experience ldap is not quite as simple as libpam-mysql. Brian, Thanks, I may have not been clear enough, this can be considered a small secure system (4 computers, and although all are connected to the Internet, they are behind the university firewall) and all the users can be considered trusted users. The communication between the machines is going to be private (all connected to each other, internal cluster communication isn't visible externally), so even if not encrypted you will have to break into the system in the first place in order to snoop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Hidden service disk
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:28:23 -0500 Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun November 30 2008, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: Check the partition type of the hidden partition. `fdisk -l device' should tell you that. It is probably set to empty or hidden or something similar. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 8 64228+ de Dell Utility /dev/sda2 * 9 13661 1096677227 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda3 38308 38913 4867695 db CP/M / CTOS / ... it is /dev/sda3 and when I mount it in linux using: mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ( created /media/sda3 first) here is an ls -l: total 160 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1871 2005-07-07 21:34 autoexec.bat drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2004-05-17 03:49 bat drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-27 21:28 bin -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 56403 2005-12-01 20:53 command.com -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 117 2004-05-17 03:49 config.sys -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 29343 2005-12-01 20:53 dellbio.bin -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 32058 2005-12-01 20:53 dellrmk.bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2004-05-17 03:49 img drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-27 21:28 src1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-27 21:28 src2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-27 21:28 src3 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-27 21:28 src4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-27 21:28 src5 Don't know where this thread started, so sorry if I'm off topic, but most laptop manufacturers today stopped shipping rescue/driver cds and instead they leave a hidden partition with the windows installation files on it for system restore. It's usually at the start of the disk, but it looks like they stuck it on the end on your computer. I'm guessing that they initial partition is to handle the rescue button to give you a menu what you want to load. If you will never want to restore you system to windows you can dump it, otherwise you can just leave it there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does Pirated Windows Install on New Hard Drives?
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:37:04 -0700 TW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was trying to install a copy of Windows XP that I downloaded in '06 onto my friend's mom's laptop computer, but it wouldn't take. I bought her a new hard drive (Seagate, 80GB) so that she could have more space. However, when I try to install the OS, I get an error message. I can't remember it exactly, but it was something about an NT dll error within a subdirectory of the System folder. The OS copy that I have installs just fine on this computer, but it's on a hard drive from back in '06. So, have hard drive manufacturers put something on their hard drives now that prevent pirated Windows installations? Or, is it that I just have an outdated copy of Windows? I wanted to know 1) so that I don't sound too much like a fool when I have to explain this and 2) for increasing my knowledge. Thank you. Certainly the wrong list, both windows and pirated are a bit off topic here. As for a partial answer, the problem is not with your hardrive. If its the same cd from 06 then it may be damaged (the physical cd), otherwise could be a shitty pirated copy of a shitty os, or an updated that caught your pirated copy because you didn't have a valid key or didn't activate it ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Building a cluster with debian?
I'm trying to find out if it's possible to build a debian based cluster from 4 identical quad core machines that would behave as one NUMA machine? AFAIK we have one such machine based on opetron processors in uni but I haven't been able to find out how that is setup, i.e whether it's a hardware or software solution. That machines shows itself as 16 cpus, which is what I would like to achieve I looked into kerighead and mosix variants, but it doesn't seem like any of them can do this properly (thread migration is impossible and process migration is problematic). The machines are going to be all connected to every other using gigabit lan. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why packages in testing/unstable require the newer shared libraries ?
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:53:01 -0500 Boris Toloknov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have debian stable (etch). Sometimes I want to install the newest versions of some packages from testing/unstable. Typically I can only install some package with the newer version of the shared libraries it depends on. For example dash (0.5.3-7) from etch depends on libc6 http://packages.debian.org/etch/libc6 (= 2.3.5-1) while dash (0.5.4-12) from lenny depends on libc6 http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libc6 (= 2.7-1) and debian stable has libc6 (2.3.6.ds1-13etch7) . Will my system be broken after upgrading libc6* along with locales, tzdata and binutils from testing(lenny) repository ? If not then it means that other programs ( for example bash ) are able to work with libc6 http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libc6 (2.7-*) instead of libc6 http://packages.debian.org/etch/libc6 (2.3.[56]*). On other hand I don't think that dash (0.5.4-12) from lenny requires something that is absent in libc6 http://packages.debian.org/etch/libc6 (2.3.[56]*). Why in that case dash and most/all of the program packages from testing require the newer libraries from testing instead of stable ? If the dependencies are set corretly for the packages, upgrading the library should also force you to upgrade all packages that won't work with the newer one. A program compiled with the newer library (usually) can't work with the older ones due to interface (possibly on binary) changes. That depends on how much the library changed. Sometimes they also use newer features of the library. Programs from newer systems are usually compiled with newer libraries because you want to the system the system to work as a whole and the new systems want the newer libraries because other packages or the users use their features. Some libraries can coexist at different versions, some don't and you don't want to keep 15 versions on the same library on the system just because some packages don't want the newer features. As a bottom line, if you can't cope with backports and you need the newer versions of the packages then you need to either backport yourself or use a newer system (either testing or unstable, which unlike the name suggests is rather stable). Stable is targeted as a server grade distribution, testing and unstable are more targeted for the desktop (although some with contradict me on this of course) Typically I want to upgrade just some package like gcompris from testing. What options do I have ? 1) Upgrade the package along with a huge set of libraries it depends on. But I don't want to make all my system testing/unstable. 2) I can get the source of the newest gcompris, lib*-dev packages, compile it and remove the source and lib*-dev. But it takes a lot of time. Moreover I can do it but my wife can't and she doesn't understand why it takes that much time to just install a newer version of some program. 3) Wait for a couple of years for the next stable release of debian. It's too long. I read http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html and some other articles however I don't understand: Why packages in testing/unstable require the newer shared libraries ? Thanks, Boris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop does not resume after suspend
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:54:05 + Vladimir Komendantsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Some days ago, following a normal package update, I noticed that my Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop doesn't resume after suspend any more. Now the only way to quit the suspended state is to switch the laptop off by pressing the power button. In fact I have no clear idea what package can cause this bug to file a proper bug report. I updated acpid and kernel-image to acpid_1.0.6-16_amd64.deb and linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64_2.6.26-10_amd64.deb respectively. Has anyone noticed anything similar to my problem? What causes this? Thanks for help, in advance... Do you have an nvidia card in there by any chance? If so, are you using the debian version of the non-free nvidia driver? The versions look to be ok, but it is a problem with my machine, although custom 2.6.28-rc6 and nvidia 180.08 driver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: volume mgmt w/o gnome
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:29:31 -0800 Kelly Clowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2007 6:03 PM, Mark Grieveson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is mass-storage, you just mount it with a command like mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb (mount point and device might be different). Or you can put a line in /etc/fstab : /dev/sda1 /media/usb auto noauto,users 00 Then you could just say mount /media/usb. Thanks for the response. when I try this, it tells me: mount: you must specify the filesystem type I think hal also does that. It's working on my xfce with thunar file manager, no gnome. You probably need a file/desktop manager that can get hal notifications though (it's either that or dbus, if you know which package does this you can probably look into it's dependencies) Auto should work, but the FS should be vfat, so - stand alone command: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usb (-t means type; again, paths may be different) or in fstab: /dev/sda1/ /media/usb vfat noauto,users 0 0 ...and then: mount /media/usb You can get more info with man mount and man fstab Cheers, Kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emacs22 black text on white bg from menu but white text on black bg from console
I have a strange setup issue. I removed my emacs settings to redo them so now there are no theme commands (clean .emacs). Now, when I open emacs from the menus or file manager (thunar) it comes up in a dark text on light background theme (not very readable with the match of fonts and colors), and when I open it from rxvt (or any other console) it comes up in light text on dark background (much better for my taste). What is the difference, and how do I make one of them my default instead of getting different behaviour? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emacs22 black text on white bg from menu but white text on black bg from console
I have a strange setup issue. I removed my emacs settings to redo them so now there are no theme commands (clean .emacs). Now, when I open emacs from the menus or file manager (thunar) it comes up in a dark text on light background theme (not very readable with the match of fonts and colors), and when I open it from rxvt (or any other console) it comes up in light text on dark background (much better for my taste). What is the difference, and how do I make one of them my default instead of getting different behaviour? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing xfce on existing Etch gnome install
No issues, they have no problem existing in parallel, I've seem machines with xfce, gnome, kde, fvwm and a few others in parallel. I personally switch window managers occasionally just for the fun of the change and have several existing in parallel. The only thing that may take some work is making the choice of which one to load easy enough (I setup things in .Xsession but I think gdm can do it from the startup menu). The only thing is that xfwm4 doesn't have a replace option so it's a bit more difficult to change window managers without restarting unless your session manager has a menu option (fusion-icon allows me to change betwin compiz and xfwm4 but if I start compiz --replace I have a problem going back without restart) I believe that xfce can also use the gnome backend for settings and you can mix and match the panel and window manager. The xfce panel can even use gnome applets (with a plugin to do it) On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:49:19 +0100 Andrew Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this easy to do? Is it as simple as installing an xfce meta package and then selecting xfce as the desktop when logging in? I've never tried using multiple desktop environments before and wonder if there any caveats I need to be aware of. --andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend good notes/calendar plugin/client/suites ?
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:38:34 +0800 Michael Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for info! After a round of search in the package list, I got gdeskcal and xfce4-notes-plugin to manage my schedules. gdeskcal is configurable and the event can be shown when mouse is moved over the specified date. orage is good, but seems it has to double click the date entry to view the event. One more questions, I found one package named opensync-plugin-google-calendar, as the name says, how to take use of this plugin to work with Google Calendar? you need opensync and then you can setup opensync to sync against it. It is a framework to sync a bunch of calendar/todo/contact programs (mostly useful to sync against palms/phones) Regards. Michael. David wrote: David wrote: Michael Yang wrote: Hi All: I'm on the lenny/sid, with xfce4 desktop. I'd like have some useful plugins for my desktop, to write sticky notes, to schedule calendar events and TODO tasks. It could be always displayed on the screen and better to have option of auto-hide. What are you recommendations? If you look through the xfce listings in the aptitude interface, I seem to remember a sticky notes app. It's not specifically under xfce, but it's called 'rhinotes'. Do a search through the Debian package facility. For the rest, Sunbird does all that. And 'orage' is an xfce specific calender app. How hard to you try to search for these? I almost fell over them. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless network control (applet) for xfce4
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:49:45 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 02:27:55PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: I am looking for an easy way to control my wireless (and wired) network for xfce4. I am currently using wlassistant, but it doesn't allow automatic connection (less important) and it has problems connecting to a wpa network, it attempts to connect properly but unless wpa_gui is also running in parallel it will usually fail to connect for some reason. Do you want to control, or connect? If you want to control you can always use mapping in /etc/network/interfaces; But I assume you're looking for a GUI-type way. In that case you may be interested in nm-applet (network-manager-gnome is the package). I want to connect, I am more comfortable with the text file doing the setup, it's just that with several wireless spots it began being a pain, and I don't have the time to play around with scripts anyway, I installed network-manager-gnome and found a fix for the error starting up nm-applet but now I can't connect to the wap2 network at home. It seems that wpa-assistant starts up and there is an attempt to modprobe wifi0 and then the connection fails. It seems from wpa-gui that the connection is made but then dropped for some reason - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHUCMJg6qL2BGnx4QRApgvAKCYLjTgRLV3MYEh61UI0WT4dGMUWgCfUcGZ 5oLTgdwmV0TAv91JKdZuzpw= =VYy+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless network control (applet) for xfce4
I am looking for an easy way to control my wireless (and wired) network for xfce4. I am currently using wlassistant, but it doesn't allow automatic connection (less important) and it has problems connecting to a wpa network, it attempts to connect properly but unless wpa_gui is also running in parallel it will usually fail to connect for some reason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windows won't boot anymore after installation of debian
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:22:24 -0800 Amit Uttamchandani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:24:33 +0200 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, A friend of mine tried to resize his windows partition using partition magic and then proceeded to install fedora (don't know the version but with kernel 2.6.5) which complained about some problem and after the installation when grub came up it showed an unknown os and would boot it, booted fine into fedora. I later dumped fedora and installed debian (testing from the netinst cd) for him, which he is rather happy with, although he still needs his windows partition for the moment for some word documents. I tried booting windows from the debian grub (which correctly recognized it as window). For the first time it started booting (I killed it that time), and later on it just got stuck when booting widows after showing chainloader +1 I tried downloading ntfsprogs and running ntfsfix and also made sure that it is marked as bootable. The partition is still there and mountable. any Idea what went wrong with the installation and how to fix it? Thanks Have you tried reinstalling GRUB? Sounds like the GRUB install when installing Fedora was messed up someway or the other. Reinstall GRUB and it should be fine. Grub was reinstalled when I installed debian over fedora, it did boot once but then failed again will try the fixboot from the next message thanks Good Luck, Amit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
windows won't boot anymore after installation of debian
Hello, A friend of mine tried to resize his windows partition using partition magic and then proceeded to install fedora (don't know the version but with kernel 2.6.5) which complained about some problem and after the installation when grub came up it showed an unknown os and would boot it, booted fine into fedora. I later dumped fedora and installed debian (testing from the netinst cd) for him, which he is rather happy with, although he still needs his windows partition for the moment for some word documents. I tried booting windows from the debian grub (which correctly recognized it as window). For the first time it started booting (I killed it that time), and later on it just got stuck when booting widows after showing chainloader +1 I tried downloading ntfsprogs and running ntfsfix and also made sure that it is marked as bootable. The partition is still there and mountable. any Idea what went wrong with the installation and how to fix it? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Could you recommend file manager that are not based on KDE and GNOME?
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:10:06 -0800 (PST) Serena Cantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used Linux for 8 years. I have not found any suitable file manager(FM). I use twm. I don't use KDE or GNOME. so don't recommend any FM based on KDE or GNOME I still use command line. I will prefer GUI FM so my life can be a little easier. I use sarge and etch. rox-filer or thunar (from xfce4) are not bad, personally I use thunar quite a bit lately. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:12:38 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello DU I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? under testing/unstable you want texlive, for stable, possibly tetex if I recall correctly. I never worked with the vim extension. I use emacs with auctex and lyx (a mostly WYSIWYG latex editor). You may also want to have a look at texmaker which is rather nice. As for learning latex, look with google (it's also probably in some debian package) for the not so short introduction to latex. As for books, the classics are latex: a document preparation system by leslie lamport and the latex companion - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHSZ72g6qL2BGnx4QRAqrxAJsHpHb1RVlqUt/CzqfDKAuHikuNYwCeOwZx Dr+xDvNLZ+/GP1PbfRSzD7g= =oOST -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cannot mount root file system with vanilla kernel 2.6.24-rc3
I'm trying to compile vanilla kernel 2.6.24-rc3 due to some patches I need. When I try to boot the new kernel I get the error: vfs: Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block(0,0) please append a correct root= boot option. Here are the available devices: [...] [...] sda3 [...] Kernel 2.6.23.1 boots with the same option and nearly the same config file I did compile it with gcc 4.3 (which didn't work for me for kernel 2.6.23.8) but it gave no error (when I fixed 2.6.23.8 to compile with gcc 4.3 it did give me similar error though) Any ideas, or could this be gcc 4.3 that is not for the kernel yet? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3-D graphing software for Linux?
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:41 +0200 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/11/2007, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 0In an advanced Calculus course, we are dealing with functions with 2 (and more) variables. Is there any 3-D graphing software for Linux available? Something like Kalgebra, but with a bit more functions such as multiple functions graphed at the same time, asymptote min max and other significant points, zoom into 3-D graph, graph of derivative and integral, etc. I have been directed to look at some math programming languages such as root, octave, and R, but I really need an application, not a language. This app will be used by others in my calculus course, people with no computer background, so these language solutions simply will not work for us. Thanks in advance for any advice. You mean like this: http://www.esnips.com/doc/39163b3c-a004-464d-a0a9-9655da7eb0f5/filltest.2 Hugo Yes, programs such as Kalgebra produce graphs like that. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il Have a look at octave and scilab, there is also maxima for linear algebra but I don't know if it does graphs א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: [OT]: free ddns service and port rediction 80--xyz
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:07:41 -0500 H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owen Townend wrote: Hey, Easy fix that works for me. If your web server isn't already using it then just get ssh to listen on port 443 which the firewall will more than likely let through for https. cheers, Owen. I have it running, so can't use 443. But I already had this mind. I have asked the related admin what other ports are open. I am not running any other services, so hopefully I can make ssh listen on one of those ports. try 20/21 for ftp (although 20 may be opened only in response to 21), or 53 for domain name server also have a look at freedns.afraid.org, I seem to recall that they do what you want, but I'm not sure if its a redirection from them or a message to your computer to redirect somewhere else thanks, -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finding the name server owning a domain name
Is there a way to find which domain name server owns a given domain name? I don't want to lookup the IP address but rather where the name is defined. I tried dig but it shows the name server defined in resolv.conf and not the actual owner thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finding the name server owning a domain name
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:55:28 + Chris Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to find which domain name server owns a given domain name? I don't want to lookup the IP address but rather where the name is defined. What do you mean by owns? Do you mean the authoritative name server, or an email address corresponding to the person responsible for (owning) the domain, or do you actually want some contact details about the domain? I have a friend that got a domain name as a present and he asked me to help him point it in to the right address (it's pointing somewhere else at the moment). The problem is that he doesn't know yet where it is stored, so I am trying to find out where it is stored so that he can ask for the username/password. whois and dig soa (as previously suggested) gave me the results, at least for another site that I know the authoritative name server (apparently what it is called), which is NS19A.NAMESERVERS.NET, and whois shows the proper owner, now the next step is to find out what site to go to in order to change the settings. 1. Authoritative name server(s) -- dig ns some.dom.ain 2. Email address (authority record) -- dig soa some.dom.ain 3. Contact details -- whois some.dom.ain You'll probably find that #2 also gives you the authoritative name servers from #1. Sometimes you'll find whois fails to work for a domain, in which case you can try to guess the whois server (often whois.nic at the top level domain, e.g. whois.nic.uk, whois.nic.fr), or try using the appropriate NIC website, e.g. www.nic.uk, www.nic.cn). Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is supposed to set $LANG?
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:34:31 -0500 David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 23:59 +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: I noticed lately that $LANG is no longer set by default on my system. Seems that it is defined correctly in /etc/defaults and when changing to root it is also defined, but it is not defined for the default user seems like some programs get confused by the lack of a default encoding What is the output of localedef --list-archive and/or the contents of /etc/locale.gen? $ localedef --list-archive en_US en_US.iso88591 en_US.utf8 he_IL he_IL.iso88598 he_IL.utf8 hebrew $ cat /etc/locale.gen en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 en_US ISO-8859-1 he_IL.UTF-8 UTF-8 he_IL ISO-8859-8 I found out yesterday that this must be a bash setup problem since open a terminal doesn't set $LANG but su to a user does set it. I think that there is a problem between the login shell and non-login shell -davidc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is supposed to set $LANG?
I have a newly installed system and no /etc/environment, looking at files from an old system, it's supposed to be created by localeconf which no longer exists. The settings are now set in /etc/defaults/locale but the are not read for new terminals, also doesn't seem to help what kind of shell is used. Opening a terminal, no matter which, $LANG is not defined, if I do su user the value gets defined which I believe means that /etc/defaults is sourced. Can't find what is the difference and why it is not sourced for new terminals in X. On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:14:43 +0200 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 10:34:48AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: I found out yesterday that this must be a bash setup problem since open a terminal doesn't set $LANG but su to a user does set it. I think that there is a problem between the login shell and non-login shell On my (sid) machine $LANG is set in /etc/environment Regards, Andrei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't connect to local machine using ssh
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:22:22 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 05:24:28AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: Doesn't seem to be that. Also I just tried to create a new user on the machine and that user can login with no problem, only the original one (and root which seems to be enabled in the setup file) can't. could this be a shell setup problem? I found the culprit, but not the solution. There is the thinkfinger pam module that allows login in using a finger print. Everything works fine for other logins when trying to use the password, but ssh fails for some reason. the entry in /etc/pam.d/common-auth: authsufficient pam_thinkfinger.so authrequiredpam_unix.so try_first_pass nullok_secure Any ideas how to make both work? thanks Is there a .ssh/config file in your home directory? You might want to check its contents. Also grep sshd /var/log/auth.log after a failed login might shed some light as to what is going on. and compare the permissions on $HOME/.ssh and its files as ssh doesn't like incorrect permissions either. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
terminals with tabs very slow to resize in compiz
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Re: Programmers Text Editor
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:03:45 -0700 Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 5, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Using vi requires you to keep track of the editor's state in your head -- you have to remember whether it's in input mode or command mode. I've never been able to do that reliably. Neither have I. However I did learn early on in my vim life that ESC in insert mode puts you in command mode. ESC in command mode puts you in command mode. So if you're not sure, just slap escape then you are sure. :)) I have an older friend who's been doing Unix since, well... the beginning, and we were talking about this once, and he pointed out that he and his buddies figured out the in all of the possible modes/ windows, three ESC's would always get you back to command mode from anywhere in vi. I've never really analyzed that statement, but it did start me a new habit... I usually hit it more than once while/if I'm thinking about what to do next and know I need to go to command mode before doing it. My problem is that half the time i hit f1 instead and go into help ending up saving some change or other to the help file or something else, not sure what and go into record mode, not to mansion that pasting always gives me crazy indentations. Personally I prefer emacs, but it takes longer to load and I am still looking for a proper project management (find definition/declaration etc.). Tags always seems to do something else then needed, especially with c++ and fortran (no proper class support and people seem to think that fortran is not used by anyone for some unknown reason and don't bother making editors work with it) -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what is supposed to set $LANG?
I noticed lately that $LANG is no longer set by default on my system. Seems that it is defined correctly in /etc/defaults and when changing to root it is also defined, but it is not defined for the default user seems like some programs get confused by the lack of a default encoding thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't connect to local machine using ssh
I installed openssh server and client but I still can't connect to the local machine, neither remotely or localy ssh localhost The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 86:df:53:2d:84:7e:e9:f4:8e:f8:06:ac:73:1b:05:f3. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Connection closed by 127.0.0.1 I think that I enabled password login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config but I may have missed it. If it makes a difference, its a thinkpad with fingerprint reader enabled which works for local login but also with a password thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't connect to local machine using ssh
Doesn't seem to be that. Also I just tried to create a new user on the machine and that user can login with no problem, only the original one (and root which seems to be enabled in the setup file) can't. could this be a shell setup problem? On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:12:45 -0900 Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 11:44:29PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: I installed openssh server and client but I still can't connect to the local machine, neither remotely or localy ssh localhost The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 86:df:53:2d:84:7e:e9:f4:8e:f8:06:ac:73:1b:05:f3. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Connection closed by 127.0.0.1 I think that I enabled password login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config but I may have missed it. If it makes a difference, its a thinkpad with fingerprint reader enabled which works for local login but also with a password Something I miss just about every time is to add the/your user to a list of allowed users in /etc/ssh/sshd.conf or similar. Just a thought. Ken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Core2Duo 64bit
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:59:29 -0400 Jose Luis Rivas Contreras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:29:35PM +0100, P?l Cs?nyi wrote: 2007/10/31, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Semih Gokalp wrote: Hi. Which debian dist should I install on core2duo 64 bit pcu? x86 or amd64 ? amd64. amd64 is not only for the AMD processors? I have an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU6320 @ 1.86GHz Should I install too the amd64 Debian distribution on this system? As long as you don't want to run one of the (couple of) third-party apps that need i396 in Etch without also putting in an i386 chroot. Note, that many 32-bit apps will actually run in amd64 with the 32-bit libs package. I don't know about acroread since I don't use it. Iceweasel 32-bit with flashplayer needed a chroot. A chroot isn't much to set up or maintain. It's not needed anymore at least in sid with flashplayer, in fact, there's a package in debian-multimedia.org that makes all the work for you, I mean, the configuration of the wrapper. Regards, Jose Luis. The only think that didn't work either directly or the 32bit libraries for amd64 was skype that required downloading the static version and then I also needed to pull a library from another package, don't remember which one at the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
configuring an external usb mouse wiith x to dynamically connect
I have a thinkpad laptop with a trackpoint, touchpad and occasionally an external usb mouse. The laptop goes to sleep between uses so X isn't restarted much. I want to be able to connect the mouse on occasions, when it was not connected when starting X, while still being able to give each device it's own configuration. Theoretically I would define the touchpad to use /dev/input/mouse0, the trackppoint /dev/input/mouse1 and the usb mouse /dev/input/mouse2 (as they do), but since mouse2 doesn't exist when X starts I can't connect it unless it was connected initially. I found a workaround of defining the trackpoint to use /dev/input/mice and the touchpad /dev/input/mouse0 so that it can use the synaptic driver, but that is not ideal as the trackpoint uses PS/2 or microsoftPS2 and the external mouse ImPs/2 (I hope I remember all of these correctly) and I also want different options for the mouse and touchpad. Is that possible? Windows does it, so I Hope that the answer is yes ... Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xkb settings messed up, seems to be two keyboards installed
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:13:13 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:57:20 +0200 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two keymaps that I used to switch between with xkb alt_shift_toggle. At some point it stopped working. xfce xkb applet shows that the keyboard is switching but it doesn't do anything, sometimes it decides to start switching between US and en_US instead of IL. setxkbmap does change the keyboard. [snip] I've had trouble with the xfce applet with a very similar setup; removing the applet solved my problem. Do you see the same problem without the applet? The applet doesn't seem to be the problem. It looks like I had the evdev driver loaded without configuring a keyboard and it thus decided to configure the keyboard by itself. [One sign I had that the applet is buggy is that it would frequently show Null for my alternate layout instead of the image it was supposed to display.] Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xkb settings messed up, seems to be two keyboards installed
I have two keymaps that I used to switch between with xkb alt_shift_toggle. At some point it stopped working. xfce xkb applet shows that the keyboard is switching but it doesn't do anything, sometimes it decides to start switching between US and en_US instead of IL. setxkbmap does change the keyboard. I tried fbxkb which gives the error: xkb group #0 is already defined kbd group numbering is not continous run 'xlsatoms | grep pc' to know what hapends and running that gives: # xlsatoms | grep pc 173 pc+us 181 pc(pc105) 206 pc+us+il(lyx):2+group(alt_shift_toggle) 208 pc(pc104) 237 pc+us+inet(evdev)+group(alt_shift_toggle) keyboard setup in xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us,il Option XkbVariant ,lyx Option XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle #Option XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle #Option XkbOptions grp:lwin_toggle EndSection I can't find anything in .xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg.0.log any ideas what is going on here? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: camera for small work
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:59:03 +0100 John Stumbles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Ideas? Magnifying glass on a stand? The depth of field with a camera is likely to be so shallow it'd be useless for 3D work. not sure about macro work, but consumer digital cameras have a rediculous depth of field due to the tiny ccd. Thats one of their big issues in proper portrait work. anyway, not sure if there is a linux driver or anything more then an api but I know that the canon a740 (not very cheep but a very nice camera if you also want to use it later) has the possibility of working as a webcam. I don't think that earlier ones have the interface. I can try to ask what interface exists (have seen it done on windows) At least the older nikons don't have that ability either. As said before though, what about a good magnifying glass, or is this an excuse to also spring for a digi cam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: camera for small work
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:27:12 -0400 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:52:24PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: not sure about macro work, but consumer digital cameras have a rediculous depth of field due to the tiny ccd. Thats one of their big issues in proper portrait work. anyway, not sure if there is a linux driver or anything more then an api but I know that the canon a740 (not very cheep but a very nice camera if you also want to use it later) has the possibility of working as a webcam. I don't think that earlier ones have the interface. I can try to ask what interface exists (have seen it done on windows) At least the older nikons don't have that ability either. As said before though, what about a good magnifying glass, or is this an excuse to also spring for a digi cam A bit of an excuse. Also a bit of safety. I'll be using 1.5 mm chisels on buffalo horn in a work field 3 cm x 1 cm x .5 cm deep. A loupe has a focal lenght of under a couple of inches. Do I really want my eye ball within a couple of inches of the tool and the work? A really good large magnifying glass is about the same price as a medium grade digital camera. I know that my Nikon film SLR and macro lense works. I would think that there is no inherent reason why any digital camera with an LCD real-time viewer couldn't be capable of this. Whether they actually put that capability into the camera is a different story best answered at the camera shop. The only question then will be if there is a driver in the linux kernel that will work for the camera. The Nikon Digital SLR is, I think, an 18 MP camera with good depth of field; don't know if it can hook up with a USB as a webcam. The Panasonic 8 MP cameras with a macro funcition built-in have an adequate depth-of-field; ditto. unless you can fork the 5500$ at least for the Nikon D3 which IIRC can output real time video, an slr will not do the job. Digital SLRs have a mechanical shutter so the lcd is exposed only when you take the picture. No real time feedback even to the lcd not to mention external feedback. Plus, most digital SLRs have an aps sized ccd/cmos which means a 1.5+- focal length multiplier and a depth of field close to that of a film SLR (a bit bigger at the same f-number/magnification). Compact digital cameras have a digital shutter (only an electronic circuit, no physical shutter). They thus have real time updating of the lcd and theoretically possible external screen. Like I said, one of the cannons I think it was the canon a640 can do it with the windows software (my sister is very happy with the a620), don't know about linux. I think some sonys can do it also, don't know which ones and there less of a chance for linux support. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: camera for small work
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:27:12 -0400 Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:52:24PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: not sure about macro work, but consumer digital cameras have a rediculous depth of field due to the tiny ccd. Thats one of their big issues in proper portrait work. anyway, not sure if there is a linux driver or anything more then an api but I know that the canon a740 (not very cheep but a very nice camera if you also want to use it later) has the possibility of working as a webcam. I don't think that earlier ones have the interface. I can try to ask what interface exists (have seen it done on windows) At least the older nikons don't have that ability either. As said before though, what about a good magnifying glass, or is this an excuse to also spring for a digi cam A bit of an excuse. Also a bit of safety. I'll be using 1.5 mm chisels on buffalo horn in a work field 3 cm x 1 cm x .5 cm deep. A loupe has a focal lenght of under a couple of inches. Do I really want my eye ball within a couple of inches of the tool and the work? A really good large magnifying glass is about the same price as a medium grade digital camera. I know that my Nikon film SLR and macro lense works. I would think that there is no inherent reason why any digital camera with an LCD real-time viewer couldn't be capable of this. Whether they actually put that capability into the camera is a different story best answered at the camera shop. The only question then will be if there is a driver in the linux kernel that will work for the camera. The Nikon Digital SLR is, I think, an 18 MP camera with good depth of forgot to say, compact digitals have a very small sensor, i think 1/2.5 or so which gives you a much bigger depth of field, for better and worse field; don't know if it can hook up with a USB as a webcam. The Panasonic 8 MP cameras with a macro funcition built-in have an adequate depth-of-field; ditto. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem associating Wireless network - intel iwl4965agn
i have an IBM T61 laptop with the intel iwl4965agn wireless chipset (centrino related i believe). I got the drivers and even the new mac80211 installed and the card is up and running. I can find close access points with no problem with iwlist wlan0 scan but when I try to associate it keeps showing that the reception is at 0. Any ideas? Example output: iwconfig wlan0: wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID: Nickname: Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:16:E3:A9:8C:46 Tx-Power=27 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B Encryption key: Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 iwlist wlan0 scan: wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:16:E3:A9:8C:46 ESSID: Mode:Master Channel:6 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=83/100 Signal level=-51 dBm Noise level=-127 dBm Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s Extra:tsf=072f2bf3a546 Same thing at home with an ad-hoc setup Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] package for talking to usb device using visa protocol
Hopping that I didn't miss spell this, I am looking for a reference or preferably a library that would enable me to talk to a usb device that uses the vesa protocol. I found some info from national instruments that the device should be available under /dev but no code Will be grateful for any pointers thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
windows compatability issues with ftpd (wrong filenames sent)
I set up ftpd on my machine to easily trasfer the occational files to windows systems (it's usually disabled for the security aware, only enabled inside secure networks for the duration of the transfers) The problem: the file names and directories appear under windows with their time as part of the name (when browsing through windows explorer to my machine) which makes it impossible to browse using explorer (I get the error that the file doesn't exist). If I manually enter the correct file name things function properly. How do I change ftpd's behaviour to send the data in a windows compatible method? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can you recommend any open source presentation tool?
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:04:07 +0200 Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Micha Feigin wrote: The downside with the latex option is videos open in an external window and for better or worse you have less support for transitions (usually better because they tend to distract the crowd) and exact positioning of text and images (usually makes you make better presentations). Quite the opposite: latex gives you exact positioning of text and images, ppt does not. I'd love to hear about a (relatively) easy way to do this, because I had quite a few wars with this recently (for posters, not presentations) Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGY8d3C1NzPRl9qEURArc2AJ9USvYrf7XgCBkU1Tloj/3dQF13rgCZAckq IKIA75I3BI4BG4a1nB3KVDs= =f/jN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reliable wifi manager for gnome
On Mon, 28 May 2007 09:42:32 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/28/07 04:12, Jose Rodriguez wrote: [snip] As far as I know--which is not much, in any case--the cosmetic protections like hiding the essid, MAC filtering and changing the default WEP password are utterly useless. Setting up WAP is the way to go, although at least one of its flavours is prone to dictionary attacks. s/WAP/WPA/ Once I solve the connection issue I'll improve on the security, there is also mac filtering in the firewall although I don't count on that as that can be fakes easily also. Having said this, I didn't bother to properly secure my own home network yet. If somebody wants to check a couple of e-mails using it just be it. Would you leave your door open so anyone can come in at any hour of the day and pee in your toilet or watch your movies? Actually I do ;-) the perks of country life ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deranged mouse behaviour with ibm thinkpad t31
On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:51:53 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 02:29:46AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: I am installing linux on a thinkpad t31. Most things work, but I think that the mouse is setup wrong since after playing with the mouse (it's the red point in the middle of the keyboard, not sure what it's called) for a few seconds to Trackpoint minutes (not consistent) it suddenly goes crazy opening windows, pressing buttons and flying all over the place. To release it I need to let go of the mouse for a couple of seconds and then it goes back to normal until the next time. It does happen that the trackpoint moves on its own, especially on older It's not a problem of the trackpoint moving on it's own, it seems to start misinterpreting the input if it comes to fast for too long or some other unexpected message from the driver. hardware. You can minimise the effect by lowering the sensibility. As for opening windows, do you also use it for clicking? I don't think Not that I'm aware of. It looks like in it's insanity it flies around the screen and clicks on things, as if in the middle of the movement the driver starts misinterpreting the input and starts sending junk to X. If I let go of the pointer for about two seconds the problem goes away until the next time (which can be 10 seconds or a few minutes) there is a real cure for that, but you might minimize it if you click only using the real buttons. Is the trackpoint replaceable? I don't think it's replacable, how do I disable clicking with the trackpoint? Regards, Andrei I read somewhere recently that I may be using the wrong driver and I need to change ImPS/2 - PS/2 but it's my dad's laptop so I wasn't around it to try it yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reliable wifi manager for gnome
On Sat, 26 May 2007 10:34:32 +0100 Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: I am looking for a reliable wifi manager for gnome for my dad (I'm comfortable enough with the command line and fvwm). I tried using the installed NetworkManger Applet but it doesn't seem to setup things properly, in manual mode after I plug in the usb wifi thingy I need to do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In roaming mode it doesn't set the wep key at all. I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main must. Thanks You could try wlassistant [1], wifiradar, Gnome network tools (Applications - System Tools - Network Tools), Gnome Network Administration Tool (Desktop - Administration - Networking). Thanks, I'll have a look at them Some wifi drivers ave their own admin tools. Eg for the Ralink chipset (eg Edimax cards) the driver package is RT2500-source and the tools package is RT2500. However, if you install the RT2500 package you will not be able to use the standard tools like iwconfig etc. Works fine for me on another usb stick although I am using rt73 at the moment since rt2x00 doesn't work with this stick. rutilit is nice though You might consider using a broadband modem/router/wifi combined appliance. I use a Philips SNA6500 which has built-in NAT and firewall. It also has the option to enable or reject wireless clients on the basis of their MAC address. So, even if WEP is cracked you are still secure. I have one of those, the problem is connecting to it, and at the moment I am more worried about reliably connecting, I'll worry about encryption once that is solved. [1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages#Wlassistant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reliable wifi manager for gnome
I am looking for a reliable wifi manager for gnome for my dad (I'm comfortable enough with the command line and fvwm). I tried using the installed NetworkManger Applet but it doesn't seem to setup things properly, in manual mode after I plug in the usb wifi thingy I need to do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In roaming mode it doesn't set the wep key at all. I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main must. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deranged mouse behaviour with ibm thinkpad t31
I am installing linux on a thinkpad t31. Most things work, but I think that the mouse is setup wrong since after playing with the mouse (it's the red point in the middle of the keyboard, not sure what it's called) for a few seconds to minutes (not consistent) it suddenly goes crazy opening windows, pressing buttons and flying all over the place. To release it I need to let go of the mouse for a couple of seconds and then it goes back to normal until the next time. I tried setting the protocol to ImPS/2 and auto which behave the same and to GlidePoint which doesn't function at all. device is /dev/input/mice Any ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WEP??? (was Re: reliable wifi manager for gnome)
On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:41:22 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/25/07 18:25, Micha Feigin wrote: [snip] do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In roaming mode it doesn't set the wep key at all. I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main must. Why are you inviting someone to (quickly!!) hack into your network? I need a solution that works with both linux and the access point, can be configured easily enough, will stop the next door guy from using my network (I doubt I can stop anyone from actually breaking in if they really wanted to). Plus everything even inside the network is behind it's own firewall and if the guy who wants to break in moves another 50m he will find ten more networks with no protection at all (and another few guarded only be wep). I'll be happy to hear about a better solution (I don't have the time to catch up on network security) and unrelated to the security issue, I need a wifi management software that works (preferably with no more than entering the network details the first time I want to connect). - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGV3QiS9HxQb37XmcRAhdSAJ905puhGKSUF4Bup7+pfHl8+Q5ZrACfaTMc hAVOS5xv67KfUuvaA23UJNA= =DWoz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why linux?
On Mon, 21 May 2007 02:57:09 -0400 (EDT) S C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For months now I have been trying to make Debian behave like a real OS. However, I still cannot print, format/initialize a new cd or use one to back up files, get the sound working, watch a movie or read images from my digital camera. With Windows all this was simple. I downloaded the relevant program, set it up and it worked. Windows is supposed to be devilspawn and doomed, and maybe it is. It does, however, have one saving grace; it works. It works without expecting me to become a systems engineer. I tried installing two hp network printer, with linux I just entered the IP and it worked, under windows I had to setup using the cd twice, uninstall try again, make another printer and then it worked for a while then I had to reinstall. I tried to get my bluetooth to work, under windows I can't get everything working at the same time, only one feature depending on the install procedure. I tried installing wx, imagemagick, lyx, git etc under windows, each one took several hours, under linux it was aptitude install and I was up and running. When I go to someplace like freenode/#debian I am ignored. Maybe I should say to Hell with Linux and sell my story to Microsoft. Obviously I don't really want to, but how much longer should I put up with a partial OS? I don't mind telling you I'm damned sick of it. - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why linux?
On Mon, 21 May 2007 09:36:39 +0200 Raffaele Morelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/5/21, S C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For months now I have been trying to make Debian behave like a real OS. However, I still cannot print, format/initialize a new cd or use one to back up files, get the sound working, watch a movie or read images from my digital camera. With Windows all this was simple. I downloaded the relevant program, set it up and it worked. Windows is supposed to be devilspawn and doomed, and maybe it is. It does, however, have one saving grace; it works. It works without expecting me to become a systems engineer. When I go to someplace like freenode/#debian I am ignored. Maybe I should say to Hell with Linux and sell my story to Microsoft. Obviously I don't really want to, but how much longer should I put up with a partial OS? I don't mind telling you I'm damned sick of it. -- Hi, what do you wanna do? printing -- from a superuser shell, apt-get install cupsys. Then you are ready to print, just configure those necessary thing. R/RW cd -- still as a SU, apt-get install k3b. Then just launch it and reply to answers movies -- apt-get install xine and then configure and so on. Or mplayer, plays all those movies out of the box that windows makes you chase codecs for days to get partially working You can't expect debian behaves like windows, it's clearly another flavour so you must read some documentation (apt-get install debian-reference) and man pages. No systems engineer is needed to be a debian user but not being lazy is useful (needed) instead ;) raffaele -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can you recommend any open source presentation tool?
On Thu, 17 May 2007 10:26:23 -0400 Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:32:46PM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote: Which software is Linux's equivalence of M$'s PowerPoint? Lots of folks create a presention in tex [ or similar markup languages] and then turn them into pdf file or to html/javascript. With the advantage that the presentation is in pdf so you know that it will appear properly on any machine and only requires pdf viewer to display the presentation. It does help to use some presentation class though. My favourite is beamer although there is also prosper and texpower I'm aware of and probably a bunch of others. Personally, I use lyx to edit the presentation and it has support for beamer (including a template). ooimpress is also nice and can export to pdf. The downside with the latex option is videos open in an external window and for better or worse you have less support for transitions (usually better because they tend to distract the crowd) and exact positioning of text and images (usually makes you make better presentations). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [workaround] Recent upgrade killed matlab [and everything java related]
On Mon, 7 May 2007 00:01:13 +0300 Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 6 May 2007 10:24:09 -0600 Wesley J. Landaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 01 May 2007 01:58:49 Micha Feigin wrote: Recent upgrades of sid killed matlab 7 (sp2) for me. When I try to start it with the jvm active (gui) I get the error: MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed. Aborted Turns out that the new xcb support is not compatible with java's awt. The only solution I found was to downgrade libx11 to pre xcb support and uninstall all xcb packages. Turns out this problem attacks anything java on any xcb enabled libx11 Any idea what this is, is it solvable and whether it is a common problem or only me ? No idea about your matlab issue (looks like a possible xlib incompatibility--you could always run matlab in a etch chroot or something), but I can't pass up the opportunity to recommend using octave http://www.octave.org/ instead of matlab if at all posible. =) Afraid it's not even remotely possible. I tried octave at the time but it was so far behind it was on the verge of unusable for the real world. Scilib seemed much better but both fail on the colaboration issue when everyone around you uses matlab (or as I just started doing, c/c++ and fortran). I do computer vision and medical imaging, which means huge PDE and (non)linear systems. Also one of octave's big drawbacks (besides being about on par with matlab 5 without the toolboxes) is that it has terrible graphic support (plotting/displaying data, including 3d) Add to that the availability of existing code ... Anyway, it turns out that the problem is not matlab, its something between Java's awt and x.org (I didn't quite understand who's at fault, seems that awt uses something that is in the specks but not properly implemented). I just found out that jabref (open source bibref manager), freemind (open source mind mapping tool) and maple are also dead. I saw some pointer towards libxrandr but it seems that it is at it's latest version. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On 07 May 2007 23:35:59 GMT Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-05-07, Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just jumped in, and the only issue I had was getting my source files (ie. non-standard .bst, .bib, .cls files) into the right directories If you have non-standard files you should put them in ~/texmf and then run texhash ~/texmf. This way they survive whatever update you've got and the hash is local so I didn't have to rerun texhash after the update What I found, thanks to help from others here (Florian I think it was...) was that the directory structure under ~/texmf has to mirror that of /usr/share/texmf-texlive/. So just putting a .bst file in ~/texmf and running mktexlsr (=texhash?) didn't work. It needed to be in ~/texmf/bibtex/bst/. I had to do that also for tetex Anyways, the rest works out fine. Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:53:18 -0400 Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, So recently, occasionally when upgrading (I use Lenny) I've had to remove some TeX component or other because it now won't depend on TeTeX. So I suppose that that means it's time to get with the program and upgrade to TeXLive, since it actually updates, but I've also heard tell that people experience big problems when moving over from TeTeX instead of just installing TeXLive onto a system without any former I didn't have any problems, but you can always first purge the tetex installation if you want to be sure. TeX installation. Is there some safe way of moving over? Also, (very importantly) does AUCTeX work with TeXLive? Auctex works just fine with texline (all it is interested in is that there is latex/pdflatex to run in the background). It doesn't actually need any latex at all if you don't compile the documents through auctex Thanks, Amy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On Mon, 7 May 2007 15:06:50 -0400 Michael Marsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/7/07, Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:53:18 -0400 Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So recently, occasionally when upgrading (I use Lenny) I've had to remove some TeX component or other because it now won't depend on TeTeX. So I suppose that that means it's time to get with the program and upgrade to TeXLive, since it actually updates, but I've also heard tell that people experience big problems when moving over from TeTeX instead of just installing TeXLive onto a system without any former I didn't have any problems, but you can always first purge the tetex installation if you want to be sure. Ditto for me. The only problem I had was the massive list of localizations that were included by default, which I later purged. The extra something package pulls that in along with it for some reason, I've been wondering if it is a bug for some time now -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On 07 May 2007 19:22:40 GMT
Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-05-07, Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TeX installation. Is there some safe way of moving over?
I just jumped in, and the only issue I had was getting my source files
(ie. non-standard .bst, .bib, .cls files) into the right directories
If you have non-standard files you should put them in ~/texmf and then run
texhash ~/texmf.
This way they survive whatever update you've got and the hash is local so I
didn't have to rerun texhash after the update
Getting XeTeX to run to some more work, but that is irrelevant to the question
since tetex doesn't have XeTeX (good utf and truetype font support)
(another thread on this list in the last month or two has the details
of that). Doing an apt{get,itude} purge of the tetex stuff before
installing texlive is probably a good idea.
Also, (very importantly) does AUCTeX work with TeXLive?
Once I got texlive installed I had no problems with Auctex.
HTH,
Tyler
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Re: TeTex to TeXLive
On 07 May 2007 19:22:40 GMT
Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-05-07, Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TeX installation. Is there some safe way of moving over?
I just jumped in, and the only issue I had was getting my source files
(ie. non-standard .bst, .bib, .cls files) into the right directories
If you have non-standard files you should put them in ~/texmf and then run
texhash ~/texmf.
This way they survive whatever update you've got and the hash is local so I
didn't have to rerun texhash after the update
Getting XeTeX to run to some more work, but that is irrelevant to the question
since tetex doesn't have XeTeX (good utf and truetype font support)
(another thread on this list in the last month or two has the details
of that). Doing an apt{get,itude} purge of the tetex stuff before
installing texlive is probably a good idea.
Also, (very importantly) does AUCTeX work with TeXLive?
Once I got texlive installed I had no problems with Auctex.
HTH,
Tyler
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Re: %20MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock'failed.
I was hopeful but it didn't solve the problem, thanks anyway (assuming I don't need to do it before X starts) It seems to be something with the java awt actually and should be corrected by either sun or x.org I haven't managed to figure out which from google. running matlab as matlab -nodesktop -nosplash (no gui but with java) still gives the problem but running matlab -nojvm doesn't show it so it's certainly something to do with the jre or something that matlab does with it. I just tested jabref and it dies with the same error also, so it's definitely a java issue. Any other JREs arround I can try? Thanks On Sun, 06 May 2007 07:19:34 -0500 Waqar Malik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most probably this error needs to be updated by Mathworks. Meanwhile, before starting matlab, set the following variable. It will allow you to work with matlab. export LIBXCB_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 Regards. Waqar Malik http://people.tamu.edu/~waqar_am -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Etch] pppoe problem - unable to ping or lookup
On Sun, 6 May 2007 19:11:34 +0530 Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/5/07, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 05:12:25PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: Also note that I tried pinging remote ip addresses (like google.com's and yahoo.com's) and was unable to get any response. is that by ip address or by name? Well it should be clear from my mail below that I pinged their ip addresses, isn't it? BTW, I saw the problem. As soon as I connect, pppoeconf sets the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ... after a few seconds or in a min uet, those ip addresses vanish and get replaced by the ip 192.168.0.1. Try doing ps aux and see if dhclient or similar is running Also, what is the content of /etc/network/interfaces ? I re ran the pppoeconf and gave it the option not to update my resolv.conf but still this happened time and again. Now I changed the mode of the /etc/resolv.conf to not writable by even root and made it unmutable and still it's hapenning. Who is changing the nameserver to 192.168.0.1 and how? Regards, Deboo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent upgrade killed matlab [and everything java related]
On Sun, 6 May 2007 10:24:09 -0600 Wesley J. Landaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 01 May 2007 01:58:49 Micha Feigin wrote: Recent upgrades of sid killed matlab 7 (sp2) for me. When I try to start it with the jvm active (gui) I get the error: MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed. Aborted Any idea what this is, is it solvable and whether it is a common problem or only me ? No idea about your matlab issue (looks like a possible xlib incompatibility--you could always run matlab in a etch chroot or something), but I can't pass up the opportunity to recommend using octave http://www.octave.org/ instead of matlab if at all posible. =) Afraid it's not even remotely possible. I tried octave at the time but it was so far behind it was on the verge of unusable for the real world. Scilib seemed much better but both fail on the colaboration issue when everyone around you uses matlab (or as I just started doing, c/c++ and fortran). I do computer vision and medical imaging, which means huge PDE and (non)linear systems. Also one of octave's big drawbacks (besides being about on par with matlab 5 without the toolboxes) is that it has terrible graphic support (plotting/displaying data, including 3d) Add to that the availability of existing code ... Anyway, it turns out that the problem is not matlab, its something between Java's awt and x.org (I didn't quite understand who's at fault, seems that awt uses something that is in the specks but not properly implemented). I just found out that jabref (open source bibref manager), freemind (open source mind mapping tool) and maple are also dead. I saw some pointer towards libxrandr but it seems that it is at it's latest version. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.
Since a recent upgrade to sid I've started getting this error whenever I try to startup matlab. This seems to come from the java environment since disabling java removes the error (but also the gui and the ability to open images). I tried googling around and this comes up with relation to several programs and seems to be linked to libxrandr or similar. Something with a bug in the lock code. It's supposedly fixed in the git version of libxrandr but debian seems to be using the latest version as far as I can tell. Anyone knows what this is about, or more importantly, how to solve it? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recent upgrade killed matlab
Recent upgrades of sid killed matlab 7 (sp2) for me. When I try to start it with the jvm active (gui) I get the error: MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed. Aborted Any idea what this is, is it solvable and whether it is a common problem or only me ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless - is it possible?
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:24:35 +0200 Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Default User ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Easy question: has anyone been able to get any currently available wifi USB or PCMCIA adapter to work with a 2004 Toshiba Satellite M35X-S109 laptop (no built-in wifi), using Debian Etch? Very hard question: if so, how were you able to do it? I have tried a Netgear MA111 (v1?) USB adapter. I have only been able to get it to work out of the box with OpenBSD (any recent distribution), and Freespire 1.0.13 (before the switch to an Ubuntu base). I have also tried a Netgear WG111 (v2) adapter. To date, it won't work out of the box with any of many non-M$ OSes tried. I think one of them uses a ralink chipset, which means that there is a driver available, however you need to compile and install it yourself (e.g. using module-assistant). The netgear wg511t pcmcia card also works, it uses an atheros chipset and runs with the madwifi driver. Packages are available in non-free, so you also need to build them using non-free. If you want to buy Netgear adapters, take a close look at the product name. An additional letter or number can mean that is uses a completely different chipset. if its an ralink chipset than the following package may be the start (gets you the source) rt2x00-source you would still need to compile it zydass has a module in the kernel, I don't know if it's compiled by default on debian kernels though (zd1211 I think). You will need izd1211-firmware package for the firmware, possibly zd1211-source if the sources are not compiled It says that it supports: 3COM 3CRUSB100756891:a727 AOpen 802.11g WL54 07b8:6001 iNexQ UR055g1435:0711 Sitecom WL-113 0df6:9071 Telegent TG54USB129b:1666 TwinMOS G240126F:a006 Yakumo QuickWLAN0b3b:1630 Airlink+ AWLL3025 0ace:1211 Zyxel ZyAIR G-220 0586:3401 X-Micro XWL-11GUZX 0ace:1211 Edimax EW-7317UG0ace:1211 Safecom SWLU-5400 07b8:6001 Longshine LCS-8131G 07b8:6001 Planet WL-U356 0ace:1211 Sweex wireless 54MB 5173:1809 Acer WLAN-G-US1 0ace:1211 Trendnet TEW-424UB 0ace:1211 DrayTek Vigor 550 0675:0550 Asus WL-159g0b05:170c Trust NW-3100 I have a ralink rt73 based dongle by level one but this one gives quite a bit of trouble about which driver it will accept (rt2x00 doesn't work, the legacy rt73 does, but only the new versions) regards Andreas Janssen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GCC compiler
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:20:08 -0300 Iuri Sampaio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I tried to compile a C source code, using make command: The Makefile script is: BINDIR = ./ LIBDIR = /foo/im/lib/Linux24 INCLUDE = /foo/im/include CC = gcc CFLAGS = -g -I$(INCLUDE) LIBS = $(LIBDIR)/libim.a $(LIBDIR)/libim.so \ -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 You are linking against libim twice, once static and once dynamic, what you may mean is LIBS = -L$(LIBDIR) -lim -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 OBJS = rotation.c BIN = rotation $(BIN): $(OBJS) $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o $(BIN) $(OBJS) $(LIBS) install: $(BIN) mv $(BIN) $(BINDIR) clean: rm -f $(BIN) *.o *~ but then I got this error message when I run make [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mat056/AULA28.03.07$ make gcc -g -I../im2_6_linux24/im/include/ -o quantizacao quantizacao.c ../im2_6_Linux24/im/lib/Linux24/libim.a ../im2_6_Linux24/im/lib/Linux24/libim.so -lm -L/u\ sr/X11R6/lib -lX11 quantizacao.c:1:16: error: im.h: No such file or directory quantizacao.c: In function 'main': quantizacao.c:12: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'malloc' Seems like you are not including stdlib.h so malloc is not defined quantizacao.c:22: error: 'IM_TIF' undeclared (first use in this function) quantizacao.c:22: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once quantizacao.c:22: error: for each function it appears in.) make: *** [quantizacao] Error 1 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mat056/AULA28.03.07$[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mat056/AULA28.03. 07$ I can see it’s missing the im.h of my gcc lib. Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Even apt-get any lib that has im.h? what is im.h supposed to be a part of? If you don't know, than where did you get the code and what's its intent? There is no debian package that contains im.h or libim.a or libim.so Only reference I found is national language support for AIX which is a proprietary UNIX by IBM Regards, iuri sampaio No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/778 - Release Date: 4/27/2007 1:39 PM
Re: dnsmasq in debian
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:27:48 -0500 Andrew Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/15/07, Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gunnar Björkdahl: I'm trying to setup dnsmasq on my LAN. I configured the adresses in /etc/hosts and I can ping them fine. But I am unable to ping the outside world. What have I done wrong or missed? There is no way to know. You didn't tell us what you wanted to use dnsmasq for (DNS, DHCP?), how you configured it and what error message you got. J. -- Could you post the ouput of cat /etc/resolv.conf? Also, how did you configure your LAN? Did you set up a box to act as a router with 2 NICs? Also, can you ping the outside world from the server (the one running dnsmasq)?
Help compiling source package (autoconf) - AM_SANITY_CHECK not found
I am trying to compile ImageMagick from source (trying to cross compile it
actually with mingw, but I have the same problem with native compilation).
Configure runs file, but that when I try to do make I get the error:
configuring ImageMagick 6.3.3
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
./configure: line 2120: AM_SANITY_CHECK: command not found
./configure: line 2122: syntax error near unexpected token
`$PACKAGE_NAME,${PACKAGE_VERSION}${PACKAGE_VERSION_ADDENDUM},http://www.imagemagick.org'
./configure: line 2122:
`AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE($PACKAGE_NAME,${PACKAGE_VERSION}${PACKAGE_VERSION_ADDENDUM},http://www.imagemagick.org)'
I found some reference to m4_pattern_allow but nothing on how to use it and
couldn't find anything about this on google.
Any ideas on what I'm missing (tried to look at the aptitude package list but
nothing seemed relevant).
Thanks
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Re: Help compiling source package (autoconf) - AM_SANITY_CHECK not found
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:51:45 -0400
Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 15:44 +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
I am trying to compile ImageMagick from source (trying to cross compile it
actually with mingw, but I have the same problem with native compilation).
Configure runs file, but that when I try to do make I get the error:
configuring ImageMagick 6.3.3
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
./configure: line 2120: AM_SANITY_CHECK: command not found
./configure: line 2122: syntax error near unexpected token
`$PACKAGE_NAME,${PACKAGE_VERSION}${PACKAGE_VERSION_ADDENDUM},http://www.imagemagick.org'
./configure:
line 2122:
`AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE($PACKAGE_NAME,${PACKAGE_VERSION}${PACKAGE_VERSION_ADDENDUM},http://www.imagemagick.org)'
I found some reference to m4_pattern_allow but nothing on how to use it and
couldn't find anything about this on google.
Any ideas on what I'm missing (tried to look at the aptitude package list
but nothing seemed relevant).
You might want to check for a different version of autoconf, automake
etc...
You might not have automake installed or maybe one that doesn't have:
usr/share/aclocal-1.10/sanity.m4
I checked, I have both usr/share/aclocal-1.10/sanity.m4 and
usr/share/aclocal-1.9/sanity.m4
I looked in the config file and nothing seems to call that or autoconfig
directly
in it.
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Re: [OT] Graphics programming
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:26:32 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 01:51:03PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I would like to try some simple graphics programming on Linux -- plotting points, lines, and arcs to a window, filling areas with colour, etc. Preferably with a C interface, something like what you could do with Turbo C on DOS in the 1980's. What would be the easiest system to do this? Should I learn Java? Or something else? Personally, I would recommend wxWidgets. However, it is C++ and not C. The reason I say that is because it then makes your programs portable and learning wxWidgets is no more difficult than Xlib or any other lower level drawing library. I like wxWidgets also. It will also make your programs portable to windows with little or no modifications (if that is an issue). For drawing lines and graphs and such look into plplot. It has a plplot driver It takes some work to get a full program running, so it's more useful if you'll want to get real programs going and not just play around. For simple playing around, python may be easier (although personally, for real projects I feel c/c++ is better). BTW, there are also bindings for using wx with python Fortran is nice but mostly for mathematical work Regards, -Roberto
Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg DRI
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:31:48 -0400 cga2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:01:56PM EDT, Mark Grieveson wrote: On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 13:01 -0400, cga2000 wrote: Has anybody gotten direct rendering to work with the legacy mach64 Rage Pro Mobility card .. with the etch version of Xorg? The ATI web site does not provide drivers for this antique so I'll have to use the one that's provided with Xorg. $ lspci [..] ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) I did manage to get this working with a former linux kernel image of Etch, but I've had no luck with the more recent kernel image of Etch. Would that be 2.4.27? That's what I'm running on sarge. Anyway, how I did get it working was by installing a driver from http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/ Specifically, I installed this: http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/mach64-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz2 It has an easy to use install script. Sounds familiar .. I remember running a script that made everything very simple. But I need a recent 2.6 kernel in etch for other purposes. Currently, I'm at 2.6.20. I don't think that the old snapshot still compiles (it's very old). The new driver available through git access is too new for the X drivers provided with etch (or sid). They require also build X or at least mesa from source. When debian finally catches up it will be possible again. Thanks much, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
