Re: WindowMaker breaks (again) after upgrade
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:00:36PM EST, Tom Allison wrote: > So how do you fix it this time? > > I lost all my key settings (eg: Alt-Tab to rotate windows focus) again. > But I can't seem to find the setting in the Prefs window anymore. > I doubt WindowMaker removed the feature... Not as far as I know. Should be under the keyboard configuration thing. "Focus next window" - "Focus previous window" should be checked and have respectively "Alt+Tab" and "Alt+Shift+Tab" as the keyboard shortcuts. You may also want to make sure "Raise window when switching focus with keyboard" under "Miscellaneous Ergonomic Preferences" is checked. That's under the fifth "tab" (or icon, rather) from the left. What version are you running? Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker upgrade
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:33:33PM EST, Tom Allison wrote: > Well, I did it again. I upgraded windowmaker on testing and a bunch of > stuff is all screwed up. > > Somewhere I had a setting to rotate windows on ALT+TAB but not only does > this not work, I can't even find the settings to fix it anymore. > > What happened to my settings (again)? . Look for saved/renamed copies of your old wmaker config files .. possible in the ~/GNUstep/ tree. These are the files you should be looking for: WindowMaker WMRootMenu WMSound (optional) WMState WMWindowAttributes WPrefs . If the upgrade did not save the old files, restore them from a backup ... ~/GNUstep/Defaults should be where you should be looking for them. . Always have backups of ~/GNUstep/Defaults handy. I have found wmaker to be rock-solid over the years but it does have a "tendency" to wipe out its config files once in a while. It happened to me a couple of times after a brutal exit from my X session .. and that's how I got sick or re-configuring from scratch. And guess what .. now that I have an easy-to-locate backup of these file in ~/GNUstep/Defaults-Backup/ .. I haven't had a problem this last couple of years .. Go figure .. :-) In any event, I was under the impression that debian never touched anything in your home directory .. so I have a feeling this may not be directly related to your upgrade .. HTH cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker [OT]
On Friday 08 July 2005 01:44 pm, Tom Allison wrote: > I love punch cards. Did you ever use the paper tape? I used punch cards to program a Burroughs mainframe in the mid-70's and programmed a CNC lathe (machine tool) with paper tape -- what a rush!
Re: windowmaker
Hi, On 7/8/05, Meistro Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're using GDM as your login manager, you should be able to > select WMaker from the "Session" menu. If you're going for the totally NextSTEP environment you may also want to check out wdm or login.app as a replacement for gdm. have fun, Cameron Matheson
Re: windowmaker
Since my post, I have installed gnustep and windowmaker and am loving it. It's snappy, fast, and lightweight. I'm also partial to the vertical taskbar setup which WMaker seems to favor. GNUMail.app is actually a pretty slick email client, and it of course is perfectly integrated with GNUstep. If you're using GDM as your login manager, you should be able to select WMaker from the "Session" menu. Good luck!
Re: windowmaker
Andy Streich wrote: Hi, Based on advice on this list to maestro I'm considering switching to windowmaker: I no longer have time to spend hours tweaking config files, and thus prefer an integrated desktop environment, but GNOME and KDE are too bulky for my PIII-650 / 320MB workstation I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. I tried KDE, switched to GNOME, and now am investigating windowmaker. Can anyone give me pointers to information about what to expect? Specifically, 1. resources to learn/understand windowmaker Dunno, never read anything, just use it. 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment (love KMail, but the overhead is too much on my system) Thunderbird? There isn't really any kind of WindowMaker specific email client, so anything will do. mutt? pine? 3. package manager, I've been using Synaptic. Am I right in assuming that aptitude is the way to go in a windowmaker environment or am I reduced to the command line? aptitude works very nicely in windowmaker. It's my default. 4. am I just too optimistic that my old system is adequate to run some kind of GUI on linux? Probably not. Windowmaker takes 4MB compared to how many hundreds for KDE? emacs (x-window mode) takes up more RAM. 5. where do I learn about how to change from booting into a GNOME dm to login to a windowmaker dm? Change the default? FYI I'm a dinosaur that learned programming in FORTRAN with punch cards in the '70s. Even in the '80s 128MB of RAM was a supercomputer and people (from HP if I recall correctly) were writing papers claiming that 50Mhz CPUs were impossible. I love punch cards. Did you ever use the paper tape? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker
Anders, Roman, Roberto: Thanks very much for your advice. For the record I'm running Sarge and had no problem with KDE or GNOME, rather liked them both in fact. Just looking now for ways to free up resources for big apps -- and spending a lot of time learning to be a linux admin for my system! Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker
> I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. One of my boxes is exactly the same. It was running woody, now it's running sarge (2.4). Worked like a charm with woody & windowmaker. Now with sarge & windowmaker, I need to wait some minutes (maybe 5?) to load X. Of course, Firefox and OOo take some time to start, too. But it's useable. After start, it works quite acceptably. In fact, I'm writing this on it just now, even if the other box is an Athlon 1800/ 1 GB RAM... Not tried 2.6 kernel on the PII box, so I don't know about wether it's faster than 2.4. If anyone knows about it, please let me know. > 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment Try sylpheed. It's ligthweight, and feature plenty. You could miss that, even if URLs and addres are not higlighted, you can click on them to see web pages on firefox or reply a mail. If you need a GUI file manager, try endeavourII. Synaptic will work fine. Cheers Roman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 07:20:04PM -0700, Andy Streich wrote: > Hi, > > Based on advice on this list to maestro I'm considering switching to > windowmaker: > > > I no longer have time to spend hours tweaking config files, and thus > > prefer an integrated desktop environment, but GNOME and KDE are too > > bulky for my PIII-650 / 320MB workstation > > I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. I tried KDE, > switched to GNOME, and now am investigating windowmaker. Can anyone give me > pointers to information about what to expect? Specifically, > > 1. resources to learn/understand windowmaker Not much to learn/understand. It is very lightweight, has a decent GUI configuration tool and is very easy to use. > 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment (love > KMail, > but the overhead is too much on my system) I formerly used T-bird, but have since switched to mutt-ng, since it is now (or very soon will be) in Debian and provides all the features I need, including some that T-bird lacked. > 3. package manager, I've been using Synaptic. Am I right in assuming that > aptitude is the way to go in a windowmaker environment or am I reduced to the > command line? Synaptic works just fine. In fact, WindowMaker integrates GNOME, KDE, GTK, Motif, Qt, etc apps very well. Personally, I like aptitude better since I can use from any place I can get shell access (which is more places than from where I can get VNC/XForwarding). > 4. am I just too optimistic that my old system is adequate to run some kind > of > GUI on linux? The GUI is not really the issue. It is the apps. Heavy apps (Moz suite, OpenOffice, etc) will tax your system. A lean GUI will help that by freeing up more resources for the apps. > 5. where do I learn about how to change from booting into a GNOME dm to login > to a windowmaker dm? > If you install wmaker, it will setup the option to log into WindowMaker from GDM. This happens automatically. > FYI I'm a dinosaur that learned programming in FORTRAN with punch cards in > the > '70s. Even in the '80s 128MB of RAM was a supercomputer and people (from HP > if I recall correctly) were writing papers claiming that 50Mhz CPUs were > impossible. I had a neighbor that worked at IBM back when a bunch of kooks claimed that were going to make random access storage media (today we call them hard drives) that were faster and more reliable than tapes :-) I am slowly convincing this former neighbor of the virutes of F/OSS. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpLnmyw02eVN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: windowmaker
On Friday 08 July 2005 04:20, Andy Streich wrote: > Hi, > > Based on advice on this list to maestro I'm considering switching to > > windowmaker: > > I no longer have time to spend hours tweaking config files, and thus > > prefer an integrated desktop environment, but GNOME and KDE are too > > bulky for my PIII-650 / 320MB workstation > > I'm even resource-poorer with a PII-400/128MB workstation. I tried KDE, > switched to GNOME, and now am investigating windowmaker. Can anyone give > me pointers to information about what to expect? Specifically, > > 1. resources to learn/understand windowmaker > 2. email client that works well (and lightly) in that environment (love > KMail, but the overhead is too much on my system) > 3. package manager, I've been using Synaptic. Am I right in assuming that > aptitude is the way to go in a windowmaker environment or am I reduced to > the command line? > 4. am I just too optimistic that my old system is adequate to run some > kind of GUI on linux? > 5. where do I learn about how to change from booting into a GNOME dm to > login to a windowmaker dm? 1. Start by using WPrefs to setup various things about WMaker. It does what you want -- relieve you from editing config files. Some things are better configured through wmakerconf, though. Wmakerconf needs to be installed separately. 2. I'll just listen along. I am also attempting to switch from KMail. 3. Synaptic will run, too. As I see it, you don't need to change. However, aptitude will also work perfectly in an xterm or the like. 4. I would definitely not say so. I've run KDE 3.3 rather smoothly on a 233MHz P2 with 56MB of RAM. 5. It would be edited in your ~/.xinitrc. However, I have found it to be enough to edit ~/.xsession, so that it contains the line ``wmaker''. Regards, Anders Breindahl. pgpijXdV713n8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker w/ Exceed Colors Washed Out Green
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:33:57 -0400 (EDT), Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I run WindowMaker with the Exceed X server the icons, menus, doc, > dialogs and so on are green. Meaning the color is all washed out. There's > not red. Doesn't happen with GNOME or KDE and it doesn't happen logged > into the machine locally. I've tried switching GDM to KDM without luck. All I can do is confirm I have the same behaviour. No idea how to fix it, but perhaps try another X server? I have had no such problems with the cygwin/x11 server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker Attributes
on Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:50:31AM +0100, Hendrik Sirges ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > i have some problems changing the window attributes > for an application. unfortunately i turned of the title bar > and the mouse and keyboard shortcuts for that application so i > can not get into the attributes menu by right-clicking on the > titlebar or inconify the application via keyboard. > does anybody know a solution. ...unless you've changed things, it's bound to the Window Properties menu. Covered in the user manual, also in the keybindings section of the WPref tool. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Inconceivable! - Princess Bride signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: WindowMaker Attributes
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Hendrik Sirges wrote: > i have some problems changing the window attributes > for an application. unfortunately i turned of the title bar > and the mouse and keyboard shortcuts for that application so i > can not get into the attributes menu by right-clicking on the > titlebar or inconify the application via keyboard. > does anybody know a solution. Hi Hendrik, Make sure your application is closed. Open a terminal and adjust ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMWindowAttributes with your favorite editor (vim of course `;-). There you can find the block defining the attributes for your application and change them the way you want. Save your changes and restart the application. HTH Grx HdV -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 14:30, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but > my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does > is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, allowing > me to close it. > > When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that > > "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" > > and asked me whether I should overwrite it. > The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, > > /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls > WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker > > which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. > > What else could be happening here ? Home come to think of it, how does the WMRootMenu file look after a fresh run of genmenu, also which version of genmenu. Also check your console for errors about incorrect proplist format etc. Im not sure if this belongs on the debian list since my genmenu script doesnt come with debian to begin with. Anyway if this is a genmenu bug I would be able to see if the WMRootMenu file is hosed. Geir Kristiansen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 14:30, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but > my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does > is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, allowing > me to close it. > > When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that > > "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" > > and asked me whether I should overwrite it. > The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, > > /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls > WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker > > which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. > > What else could be happening here ? Hi, I am the genmenu author. I am unable to reproduce this in Debian sid. I cant really guess at whats wrong here without more info. It could be something weird with your system. Does the regular debian menus work in WindowMaker? Geir Kristiansen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker 'applications menu' not working.
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:29:17 +1000 Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Rodney. > > I tried running 'genmenu' as root but Tux replied > 'no such program'. I tried apt-installing it (Debian unstable) but > received the message 'cannot find program'. > > Where does one source 'genmenu'. Should I add something to > /etc/apt/sources.list ? > > Cheers, > > Adam Bogacki, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found it via freshmeat. It's precompiled, and can be placed anywhere. I place in ~/home/bin, so it creates my personalized windowmaker menu. That, along with wmakerconf, you can create your own menu items, and sort them any way you choose. -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
chat:~$ whatis wmakerconf wmakerconf (1) - configure the Window Maker X window manager I would suggest to take the following steps: apt-get install wmakerconf then run the little program, it has a nice graphical interface, it allows you to manipulate the menus. If this doesn't help, check this site http://largo.windowmaker.org/user-guide/toc.htm I couldn't figure out how to resize the windows in windowmaker, and this site shows very nicely. After this, the only thing that was stopping me from choosing window maker as my favorite window manager has dissapeared. On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:30:56 +1000 Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but > my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does > is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, > allowing me to close it. > > When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that > > "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" > > and asked me whether I should overwrite it. > The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, > > /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls > WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker > > which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. > > What else could be happening here ? > > Adam Bogacki, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re. WindowMaker 'applications' menu inoperative
Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult but I've run 'genmenu' but my WM 'applications' program still does not work. All it does is show an 'x' in the right corner when I left or center click it, allowing me to close it. When I ran 'genmenu' it told me that "/root/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu already exists" and asked me whether I should overwrite it. The first time I did, the second time I didn't. Also, /root/GNUstep/Defaults# ls WMRootMenu WMState WindowMaker which looked 'normal' to vi & my untrained eye. What else could be happening here ? Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE; WIndowMaker 'applications' menu not working
Apologies. I've found the 'genmenu' home page. Most humble grovel, grovel, grovel :-[ Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker 'applications menu' not working.
Thanks Rodney. I tried running 'genmenu' as root but Tux replied 'no such program'. I tried apt-installing it (Debian unstable) but received the message 'cannot find program'. Where does one source 'genmenu'. Should I add something to /etc/apt/sources.list ? Cheers, Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker 'applications' menu SNAFU ...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:07:55 +1000 Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for the WWII jargon but I've installed some themes into > > ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes > > but the 'applications' menu does not show any. In fact it has not been > working at all in this WM installation, but has not troubled me until > now. > > Any ideas out there ? > > Adam Bogacki, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look for a program called "genmenu". It'll generate a windowmaker applications menus'. -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: windowmaker not showing icons for running applications
Hi The pixmap path and the icon path can be used for wmaker specific images for the various applications. But doesnt the application itself choose an icon at runtime, when it is getting started. That icon doesnt get used by wmaker, whereas in other window managers (icewm,kde etc), it works. For example, if i am building a custom application, wmaker wont show the icon set from the application whereas the other window managers display it. Is there someway to make wmaker use the icon set by the application at runtime? Regards & Thanks in Advance! On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 13:54, Roman Joost wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 09:55:21AM +0530, K S Sreeram wrote: > > [debian sarge] > > But is there someway to make wmaker pick up the application icons > > automatically. > > > > I usually run most of my apps using the 'Run...' dialog > > > Maybe your pixmap paths are not setup correctly. I've the same problem > for some of my programs, but in most times it works correctly. You can > set you pixmap paths in the "wmakerconf" tool or by hand with an > editor in $HOME/GNUStep/Defaults/Windowmaker. > > There are two entrys: Pixmap- and Iconpath. Iam not shure, which path is > to set correctly, but i think, that the iconpath must be verified. > > I hope, it'll help ... > > Greetings, > -- > Roman Joost > www: http://www.romanofski.de > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- K S Sreeram Director of Research Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmaker not showing icons for running applications
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 09:55:21AM +0530, K S Sreeram wrote: > [debian sarge] > But is there someway to make wmaker pick up the application icons > automatically. > > I usually run most of my apps using the 'Run...' dialog > Maybe your pixmap paths are not setup correctly. I've the same problem for some of my programs, but in most times it works correctly. You can set you pixmap paths in the "wmakerconf" tool or by hand with an editor in $HOME/GNUStep/Defaults/Windowmaker. There are two entrys: Pixmap- and Iconpath. Iam not shure, which path is to set correctly, but i think, that the iconpath must be verified. I hope, it'll help ... Greetings, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windowmaker question
on Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:37:56PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I have a Windowmaker question. When you launch a program (say xterm) > you get the program window and an icon. How do I get windowmaker to > not display the extra icon? I know that you can have the clip auto > attract them and then collapse, but I want to use the clip to display > icons for programs and to display my docked programs (i.e. wmclock, > wmcpuload, etc.). Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters. I strongly recommend 72 as a good default. Thank you. You can also set "shared application icon" for apps you run many of (e.g.: terminal windows). Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Verio webhosting? Guaranteed downtime: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,57011,00.html http://www.dowethics.com/r/environment/freedom.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windowmaker question
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 03:37:56PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a Windowmaker question. When you launch a program (say xterm) > you get the program window and an icon. How do I get windowmaker to > not display the extra icon? I know that you can have the clip auto > attract them and then collapse, but I want to use the clip to display > icons for programs and to display my docked programs (i.e. wmclock, > wmcpuload, etc.). Window Menu -> Attributes -> Applicatipn Specific -- Don Werve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Unix System Administrator) Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker without icons. How?
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:08:43AM +0200, Egor Tur wrote: > Hi folk. > How can I get rid of icons in WindowMaker. No icons, no backgraund - only menu and >root window from X. > Many thanks. > Start /usr/bin/WPrefs to configure many of the options. Or use editor to edit various configuration files in ~/GNUstep/Defaults. -- Jerome msg22067/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker Menu
Hi Why don't you just add the following line in your /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook under editors menu: "OpenOffice" EXEC ~/OpenOffice.org1.0/soffice and start it from there? Work's fine /ernst On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 12:43:14AM +0100, Oliver Fuchs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I installed OpenOffice on my desktop. I downloaded the tarball, I > > > didn't use the apt-getable package (I tried, it didn't work...). > > > > > > After I installed it, my menu in WindowMaker doesn't include > > > OpenOffice in the submenu Apps (eventhough I apt-getted install menu). > > > So I tried to add it with Wmakerconf. Then it gives me 3 choices : > > > Start with empty menu, Convert current menu, and Use predefined menu. > > > I tried the 3 of them, but it seems it would crash my current menu, > > > which I don't want. > > > > After you have started Wmakerconf point your mouse to the menu and the > > right mouse bottom lets you "Insert Debian Menu" or "Insert KDE menu". > > I added both of them and they hold most of the programs that are > > installed in the menu. > > Maybe you are lucky. > > I've also posted my WMRootMenu to this list, others have posted modified > versions as well. Search archives. > > Peace. > > -- > Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? >Geek for hire: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker Menu
on Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 12:43:14AM +0100, Oliver Fuchs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I installed OpenOffice on my desktop. I downloaded the tarball, I > > didn't use the apt-getable package (I tried, it didn't work...). > > > > After I installed it, my menu in WindowMaker doesn't include > > OpenOffice in the submenu Apps (eventhough I apt-getted install menu). > > So I tried to add it with Wmakerconf. Then it gives me 3 choices : > > Start with empty menu, Convert current menu, and Use predefined menu. > > I tried the 3 of them, but it seems it would crash my current menu, > > which I don't want. > > After you have started Wmakerconf point your mouse to the menu and the > right mouse bottom lets you "Insert Debian Menu" or "Insert KDE menu". > I added both of them and they hold most of the programs that are > installed in the menu. > Maybe you are lucky. I've also posted my WMRootMenu to this list, others have posted modified versions as well. Search archives. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Geek for hire: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker Menu
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi there, > > I installed OpenOffice on my desktop. I downloaded the tarball, I > didn't use the apt-getable package (I tried, it didn't work...). > > After I installed it, my menu in WindowMaker doesn't include > OpenOffice in the submenu Apps (eventhough I apt-getted install menu). > So I tried to add it with Wmakerconf. Then it gives me 3 choices : > Start with empty menu, Convert current menu, and Use predefined menu. > I tried the 3 of them, but it seems it would crash my current menu, > which I don't want. After you have started Wmakerconf point your mouse to the menu and the right mouse bottom lets you "Insert Debian Menu" or "Insert KDE menu". I added both of them and they hold most of the programs that are installed in the menu. Maybe you are lucky. Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker Menu Crazies
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 19:08, D. wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm running unstable with the 2.4.19 kernel using
> Window Maker.
> I've installed the mplayer-686.deb and when I select
> the Mplayer from the menu is does not open. If I open
> a terminal and type mplayer in the terminal Mplayer
> will open. I have looked at
> /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook and the Mplayer command
> is EXEC /usr/bin/mplayer -gui. The /etc/mplayer.conf
> has the gui=yes . I guess what I need to know is how
> do I change the menu to be EXEC /usr/bin/mplayer ?
> Appreciate the help.
Just have a look at /usr/lib/menu/mplayer. Mine looks like this:
?package(mplayer):command=/usr/bin/gmplayer section="Apps/Viewers"
needs=X11 title=gmplayer
Then, try to re-run update-menus.
If that doesn't work or you really want to call mplayer (without the
gui) just drop on appropriate menu definition into /etc/menu (just read
the README in there) and re-run update-menus.
HTH
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Re: WindowMaker Menu Crazies
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:08:08 -0700 "D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I'm running unstable with the 2.4.19 kernel using > Window Maker. > I've installed the mplayer-686.deb and when I select > the Mplayer from the menu is does not open. If I open > a terminal and type mplayer in the terminal Mplayer > will open. I have looked at > /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook and the Mplayer command > is EXEC /usr/bin/mplayer -gui. The /etc/mplayer.conf > has the gui=yes . I guess what I need to know is how > do I change the menu to be EXEC /usr/bin/mplayer ? > Appreciate the help. > Thanks > Don Never installed a mplayer - deb.But if you install it from source you need to call it gmplayer to work with a gui. Just try that maybe it works. Prost, Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker
also sprach Jerome Acks Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.09.01.2115 +0200]: > You want to add the command to ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu. You can > edit the file with any text editor or /usr/bin/WPrefs. mkdir ~/.menu cat << EOF > !$/run ?package(local.run):needs=X11 section=Misc\ title="Run" command="%a(Run,Command to run:)" shortcut="Control+Mod1+R" EOF sudo apt-get install menu update-menus -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; net@madduck sum quod eris. msg00323/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:29:40AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> I'm trying to add my own command to the Window Maker WM.
>
> What I'm tyring to do is add the ability to run a single command
> line from the F2 key. This is simeilar to the functionality in
> KDE of the F2 button.
>
> Someone has recommended
>
> "Run..." SHORTCUT F2 SHEXEC %a(Run,Type command to run: )
>
> The only problem is that I really don't know where to put it.
>
>
> help?
>
> Personally, I think it would be pretty neat to put together
> something in the docs of the WindowMaker. (I really hope I didn't
> miss seeing this file if it does exist, I'll feel really stupid.)
You want to add the command to ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu. You can
edit the file with any text editor or /usr/bin/WPrefs.
The following is the WMRootMenu that I use. It is based heavily on an
example Karsten M. Self published to the list several months ago.
cat ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu
(
Commands,
(Run..., SHORTCUT, "Mod1+F2", EXEC, "%a(Run, Command to run:)"),
(Terminal, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+t", EXEC, rxvt),
(
Rootshell,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+r",
EXEC,
"rxvt -bg grey20 -fg wheat -exec sudo su -"
),
(Galeon, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+n", EXEC, galeon),
(Jpilot, EXEC, jpilot),
(Gimp, EXEC, gimp),
(OpenOffice, EXEC, "/usr/bin/ooffice"),
(gtop, EXEC, gtop),
(
Applications,
(Bibletime, EXEC, bibletime),
(Dillo, EXEC, dillo),
(Galeon, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+n", EXEC, galeon),
(Lyx, EXEC, lyx),
(Mozilla, EXEC, mozilla),
(Mutt, EXEC, "rxvt -bg black -T Mutt -e mutt -y"),
(StarOffice, EXEC, soffice),
(
"screen w3m",
SHEXEC,
"export SHELL=/usr/bin/w3m; rxvt -name w3mTerm -bg OldLace -title w3m -e screen
w3m /usr/share/doc/w3m/MANUAL.html"
),
(
w3m,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+w",
EXEC,
"rxvt -name w3mTerm -title w3m -e w3m directory.google.com"
),
(XChat, EXEC, xchat),
(
"Xlogo confirm",
SHEXEC,
" ~/bin/xlogo.sh \"%a(xlogo ,Run xlogo now [y/n?])\""
),
("Default menu", OPEN_MENU, "/etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu"),
(
Utilities,
(FSViewer, EXEC, fsviewer),
(Calculator, EXEC, xcalc),
(XProp, EXEC, xprop),
("Font Chooser", EXEC, xfontsel),
(ColorMap, EXEC, xcmap),
(ColorSel, EXEC, xcolorsel),
(
top,
SHORTCUT,
"Control+Mod1+p",
EXEC,
"rxvt -bg black -fg green -fn fixed -T top -e top -s"
),
(xosview, EXEC, xosview)
),
(
XShells,
(Eterm, EXEC, "/usr/bin/Eterm"),
("Gnome Term", EXEC, "/usr/bin/gnome-terminal"),
(Konsole, EXEC, konsole),
(rxvt, EXEC, rxvt),
(xterm, EXEC, xterm),
(wterm, EXEC, wterm),
(uxterm, EXEC, uxterm)
)
),
(
Editors,
(
vim,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+v",
EXEC,
"rxvt -T vim -bg darkslategrey -fg gold -cr yellow1 -e vim"
),
(emacs, EXEC, emacs),
(xemacs, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+x", EXEC, xemacs),
(elvis, EXEC, elvis),
(nedit, EXEC, nedit),
(ted, EXEC, ted),
(lyx, EXEC, lyx),
(
bvi,
EXEC,
"rxvt -T bvi -bg darkslategrey -fg green2 -cr yellow1 -e bvi"
)
),
(
Info,
(Info, INFO_PANEL),
("Legal Panel", LEGAL_PANEL),
(
"Help MENU",
("Debian Online Help", EXEC, "/usr/bin/dhelp"),
("Debian Online Help (old)", EXEC, "/usr/bin/dhelp_fsstnd"),
("Gnome Help", EXEC, "/usr/bin/gnome-help-browser"),
(Info, EXEC, "x-terminal-emulator -T 'Info' -e /usr/bin/info"),
(Xman, EXEC, xman)
)
),
("Debian menus", OPEN_MENU, "/etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook"),
(
WorkSpace,
(Appearance, OPEN_MENU, appearance.menu),
("Arrange Icons", ARRANGE_ICONS),
("Clear Session", CLEAR_SESSION),
("Hide Others", HIDE_OTHERS),
("Save Session", SAVE_SESSION),
("Show All", SHOW_ALL)
),
(Workspaces, WORKSPACE_MENU),
(Refresh, REFRESH),
(
Screen,
(
Lock,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+slash",
EXEC,
"/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -lock"
),
("Activate (no lock)", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -activate"),
("Enable Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver"),
("Disable Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -exit"),
(
"Restart Screensaver",
EXEC,
"/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -restart"
),
("Demo Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -demo"),
("Screensaver Pefs", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -prefs")
),
(
Exit,
(Restart, RESTART),
(
WindowManagers,
(WindowMaker, RESTART, "/usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker"),
(Sawmill, RESTART, "/usr/bin/sawmill"),
(BlackBox, RESTART, "/usr/bin/blackbox"),
(Enlightenment, RESTART, "/usr/bin/enlightenment"),
(fvwm, RESTART, "/usr/bin/X11/fvwm"),
(vtwm, RESTART, "/usr/bin/X11/vtwm"),
(twm, R
Re: WindowMaker
> I'm trying to add my own command to the Window Maker WM. > > What I'm tyring to do is add the ability to run a single command > line from the F2 key. This is simeilar to the functionality in > KDE of the F2 button. > > Someone has recommended > >"Run..." SHORTCUT F2 SHEXEC %a(Run,Type command to run: ) > > The only problem is that I really don't know where to put it. > > > help? > > Personally, I think it would be pretty neat to put together > something in the docs of the WindowMaker. (I really hope I didn't > miss seeing this file if it does exist, I'll feel really stupid.) hey tom...here's a partial solution to your problem - i've used it quite extensively and actually, it's saved me from using an 'f2' type command: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/wmbutton.html it's a really sweet dock-app that let's you configure 9 click-able buttons - each with left/right/middle click configs so you actually have 27 choices built into a little customizable dock-app. good luck in your quest! -jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker Keybindings
on Fri, Mar 22, 2002, Rohan Deshpande ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I would like to use WindowMaker, but would also like to configure
> keybindings. As you know, with Debian's streamlined menu system, there
> is no way to customize keybindings through WPrefs since it prompts with
> an error about another program controlling the menu system. Does anyone
> know how to configure keybindings without going through WPrefs?
If I understand your question, it's not about keybindings, but about
creating your own apps root menu for Windowmaker.
I do this with the following as ~/GNUStep/WMRootMenu, which shows a
number of my own hotkey bindings. It also shows the use of an
interactive query (the '%a' directive) to prompt for information before
opening an application.
Note that Debian's menus are still accessed under the "Debian Menus"
link, by invoking:
("Debian menus", OPEN_MENU, "/etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook"),
...you could configure your own menus to your liking, then addd this
action, and you'd have the best of both worlds: your own menus, but
Debian menus for stuff that's actually on your system, automatically
updated for you.
~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu
(
Commands,
(Run..., SHORTCUT, "Mod1+F2", EXEC, "%a(Run, Command to run:)"),
(Terminal, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+t", EXEC, rxvt),
(
Rootshell,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+r",
EXEC,
"rxvt -bg grey20 -fg wheat -exec sudo su -"
),
(Mutt, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+m", EXEC, "rxvt -name muttTerm -e mutt"),
(
w3m,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+w",
SHEXEC,
"export SHELL=/usr/local/bin/w3m; rxvt -name w3mTerm -bg '#0a2828' -title
w3m -e screen w3m"
),
(
Applications,
(Mutt, EXEC, "rxvt -T Mutt -e mutt -y"),
(Galeon, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+n", EXEC, galeon),
(Skipstone, EXEC, skipstone),
(Dillo, EXEC, dillo),
(Mozilla, EXEC, mozilla),
(Gnumeric, EXEC, gnumeric),
(JPilot, EXEC, jpilot),
(Gimp, EXEC, gimp),
(StarOffice, EXEC, soffice),
(XChat, EXEC, xchat),
(
"Xlogo confirm",
SHEXEC,
" ~/bin/xlogo.sh \"%a(xlogo ,Run xlogo now [y/n?])\""
),
(
XShells,
(Eterm, EXEC, "/usr/bin/Eterm"),
("Gnome Term", EXEC, "/usr/bin/gnome-terminal"),
(Konsole, EXEC, konsole),
(rxvt, EXEC, rxvt),
(xterm, EXEC, xterm),
(wterm, EXEC, wterm)
),
(
Emulators,
("DOS Emulator", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xdos"),
("PalmOS Emulator", EXEC, "/usr/bin/pose"),
(VMWare, EXEC, vmware)
),
(
Utilities,
(FSViewer, EXEC, fsviewer),
(Calculator, EXEC, xcalc),
(XProp, EXEC, xprop),
("Font Chooser", EXEC, xfontsel),
(ColorMap, EXEC, xcmap),
(ColorSel, EXEC, xcolorsel),
(
top,
SHORTCUT,
"Control+Mod1+p",
EXEC,
"rxvt -bg black -fg green -fn fixed -T top -e top -s"
),
(xosview, EXEC, xosview)
)
),
(
Editors,
(
vim,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+v",
EXEC,
"rxvt -T vim -bg darkslategrey -fg gold -cr yellow1 -e vim"
),
(emacs, EXEC, emacs),
(xemacs, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+x", EXEC, xemacs),
(AbiWord, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+a", EXEC, AbiWord),
(WordPerfect, EXEC, "/usr/local/bin/X11/wp"),
(nedit, EXEC, nedit),
(ted, EXEC, ted),
(lyx, EXEC, lyx),
(
bvi,
EXEC,
"rxvt -T bvi -bg darkslategrey -fg green2 -cr yellow1 -e bvi"
)
),
(
Info,
(Info, INFO_PANEL),
("Legal Panel", LEGAL_PANEL),
("Default menu", OPEN_MENU, "/etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu "),
(
"Help MENU",
("Debian Online Help", EXEC, "/usr/bin/dhelp"),
("Debian Online Help (old)", EXEC, "/usr/bin/dhelp_fsstnd"),
("Gnome Help", EXEC, "/usr/bin/gnome-help-browser"),
(Info, EXEC, "x-terminal-emulator -T 'Info' -e /usr/bin/info"),
(Xman, EXEC, xman)
)
),
("Debian menus", OPEN_MENU, "/etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook"),
(
WorkSpace,
(Appearance, OPEN_MENU, appearance.menu),
("Arrange Icons", ARRANGE_ICONS),
("Clear Session", CLEAR_SESSION),
("Hide Others", HIDE_OTHERS),
("Save Session", SAVE_SESSION),
("Show All", SHOW_ALL)
),
(Workspaces, WORKSPACE_MENU),
(Refresh, REFRESH),
(
Screen,
(
Lock,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+slash",
EXEC,
"/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -lock"
),
("Activate (no lock)", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -activate"),
("Enable Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver"),
("Disable Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -exit"),
(
"Restart Screensaver",
EXEC,
"/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -restart"
),
("Demo Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -demo"),
("Screensaver Pefs", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreens
Re: WindowMaker Keybindings
Hi, I tried wmakerconf, but to add a new menu item, one must convert the old menu. Doing so breaks out of the Debian menu system. Any other hints? -Rohan * Wayne Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Rohan Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 22 March 2002 12:40 > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: WindowMaker Keybindings > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > I would like to use WindowMaker, but would also like to configure > > keybindings. As you know, with Debian's streamlined menu > > system, there > > is no way to customize keybindings through WPrefs since it > > prompts with > > an error about another program controlling the menu system. > > Does anyone > > know how to configure keybindings without going through WPrefs? > > I use 'wmakerconf', add a new menu item for the program you want to run, > then you can associate a key combination to it. > > HTH > Wayne. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: WindowMaker Keybindings
> -Original Message- > From: Rohan Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 March 2002 12:40 > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: WindowMaker Keybindings > > > Hey all, > > I would like to use WindowMaker, but would also like to configure > keybindings. As you know, with Debian's streamlined menu > system, there > is no way to customize keybindings through WPrefs since it > prompts with > an error about another program controlling the menu system. > Does anyone > know how to configure keybindings without going through WPrefs? I use 'wmakerconf', add a new menu item for the program you want to run, then you can associate a key combination to it. HTH Wayne.
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 17/01/2002 (10:04) : here is some pix of my desktop nori, btw, wmaker is cool and pretty damn hard to beat, i have tried many desktops, gimp 1.2 runs real You mean you have tried several windowmanagers. Have you tried sawfish? Preben yes, i have, not for very long, that may have been gnome-session? i think so, uh, i think my main probelems with sawfish was i dont like gpanel at all, it is too confining, also, i if i am not mistaken, the alt grab window trick is broken, and i cant live with out that, too many windows where not resizable width wize, i know with middle click i could widen all the way, hmm what else was there, i like gmc, so that worked well with sawfish ( it works with wmaker too ), sawfish had a lot of bells and whistles, not really my style - perhaps i could try again after a while, i change to twm still, which by the way is a good program to have because if you are running 2 X servers, second as root, sometimes other window managers will notice the other one and do some ipc - just a guess, but i often end up running twm on a second x server as root to do cdburns and what not, i hate su'ing all the time - did you want to know if i tried sawfish? darrell
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0729 +0100]: > it doesn't look like it to me -- that refers to saving wmaker defaults > improperly "if /tmp is on another disk, partition, or filesystem" -- > which mine's not. your /tmp is very much on another partition, and it's a filesystem of it's own. check `mount` and `df`, and /etc/fstab... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] the file you need might be very useful. but now it is gone. pgpqKaFO8kgnz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 17/01/2002 (10:04) :
> here is some pix of my desktop nori, btw, wmaker is cool and
> pretty damn hard to beat, i have tried many desktops, gimp 1.2 runs real
You mean you have tried several windowmanagers. Have you tried sawfish?
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Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
on Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:45:23AM +0100, marTin insinuated: > also sprach darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0237 +0100]: > > workspace -> appearance -> themes -> debian > > oh, that's right... forgot about that ... thanks for the reminder! > > from the debian menu's, just a footnote, these menus provided for > > windowmaker under debian seem to be uneditable from the > > windowmaker control panel, > > also true. that's a bug. i wonder if it's files. nori: did you > install reportbug yet? i think *you* should file this bug *if it > isn't filed yet*. right. i now have two bugs -- one previously detailed, one that wmaker sig11s and offers to dump core or restart. restarting doesn't do much except move window on top of each other; dumping core restarts window maker. hm. but these are already filed in bugs #48068, #78088, and #78089. so that sucks but it's filed. there's also the unfixed bug that wmaker can't read its own menu config, and if you try to access it, fails, and erases the menu for you. but that's filed, too (#69669) ... is my bug [1] perhaps already reported in #127718? it looks similar but not exact ... anyhow, i don't find it. so i'm filing. (#129639) [1] when i change a background or add extra desktops and save my configuration, wmaker does not segfault but defaults to an ugly, ugly theme, not listed anywhere. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-- -http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nori/jnl/daily.html
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
on Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:52:51PM -0600, DvB insinuated: > Speaking of uneditable prefs under wmaker, I decided to check it out > recently and ran into bug #108903. Not sure from the original > message, but this might be the cause of the problem mentioned... it doesn't look like it to me -- that refers to saving wmaker defaults improperly "if /tmp is on another disk, partition, or filesystem" -- which mine's not. and it's not just incorrectly saving preferences -- after it fails to save different-than-default prefs, it changes the entire theme and background to something nasty and undocumented (i.e., it's nowhere in the 'themes' menu). <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-- -http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nori/jnl/daily.html
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0237 +0100]: > > workspace -> appearance -> themes -> debian > > oh, that's right... > > > from the debian menu's, just a footnote, these menus provided > > for windowmaker under debian seem to be uneditable from the > > windowmaker control panel, > > also true. that's a bug. i wonder if it's files. nori: did you install > reportbug yet? i think *you* should file this bug *if it isn't filed > yet*. > Speaking of uneditable prefs under wmaker, I decided to check it out recently and ran into bug #108903. Not sure from the original message, but this might be the cause of the problem mentioned...
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
also sprach darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0237 +0100]: > workspace -> appearance -> themes -> debian oh, that's right... > from the debian menu's, just a footnote, these menus provided > for windowmaker under debian seem to be uneditable from the > windowmaker control panel, also true. that's a bug. i wonder if it's files. nori: did you install reportbug yet? i think *you* should file this bug *if it isn't filed yet*. > is it the deregular to post pictures of our desktop - that is good fun - as long as you don't attach... > madduck is weird, i wish i had vim configured to create > my mail nicely formatted, working on it i am not weird, john is! and if you want my vim configuration for reference, email me privately... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] i wish this wish not to be granted! -- achilles (hofstadter's geb) pgpzj9EemTxaj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
workspace -> appearance -> themes -> debian from the debian menu's, just a footnote, these menus provided for windowmaker under debian seem to be uneditable from the windowmaker control panel, is it the deregular to post pictures of our desktop - that is good fun - madduck is weird, i wish i had vim configured to create my mail nicely formatted, working on it http://24.79.244.68/debian_gnu_linux_woody.jpg here is some pix of my desktop nori, btw, wmaker is cool and pretty damn hard to beat, i have tried many desktops, gimp 1.2 runs real well on woody, but i havent tried the 2.4 kernel yet perhaps your menues are broken if they dont fix the theme darrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0119 +0100]: things progress fine until i attempt to change the background, or add more desktops than just one, or make some moderately large change to the appearance of X. Before, it was fine, with grey menus and red top bars, just like it shows in the default settings, but afterwards, it becomes, as someone recently so eloquently put it, like it was "hit with an ugly stick." nowhere in the configuration settings do i see anythign that resembles this ugly font, or large black menu titles. to see the difference, i've taken a couple small screenshots of the menus before and after. they're at http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/03/nori/WindowMaker/ . `wmakerconf`
Re: WindowMaker is ugly!!
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0119 +0100]: > things progress fine until i attempt to change the background, or add > more desktops than just one, or make some moderately large change to > the appearance of X. Before, it was fine, with grey menus and red top > bars, just like it shows in the default settings, but afterwards, > it becomes, as someone recently so eloquently put it, like it was "hit > with an ugly stick." nowhere in the configuration settings do i see > anythign that resembles this ugly font, or large black menu titles. > to see the difference, i've taken a couple small screenshots of the > menus before and after. they're at > http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/03/nori/WindowMaker/ . `wmakerconf` -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] women who want to be equal to men lack imagination. pgp1ocxWbowoE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windowmaker 0.80 key bindings
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:51:06PM -0800, Charles Baker wrote: > > Yes, I checked in WPrefs and all is set as expected. I > even went so far as to use the capture feature to make > sure it had alt+n for all my workspaces. No luck. Odd. I just upgraded my wmaker to 0.80.0 and have no problems. Have you tried moving your ~/GNUstep directory out of the way and creating a new one? Failing that, maybe try purging and re-installing wmaker. Of course, you shouldn't have to do any of that. It might be worth checking the BTS and submitting a new bug if this isn't already there. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgp0toGkyrigW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windowmaker 0.80 key bindings
--- Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 02:20:02PM -0800, Charles > Baker wrote: > > Did an apt-get upgrade today and got WindowMaker > 0.80. > > Now none of the Windowmaker keybindings seem to be > > working, > > Since they're all configurable, have you checked to > see if they are still > set as you expect them to be? > <> Yes, I checked in WPrefs and all is set as expected. I even went so far as to use the capture feature to make sure it had alt+n for all my workspaces. No luck. = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hacking is a "Good Thing!" See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
Re: Windowmaker 0.80 key bindings
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 02:20:02PM -0800, Charles Baker wrote: > Did an apt-get upgrade today and got WindowMaker 0.80. > Now none of the Windowmaker keybindings seem to be > working, Since they're all configurable, have you checked to see if they are still set as you expect them to be? -- Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpTUcbooPnz5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windowmaker Menu
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Lorens Kulla wrote: > I am rather new to Debian, and Linux as well. I am trying to convert > the family over from Bill and Company. In an effort to customise wmaker > I seem to have screwed up the menu/application launcher. Now when you > right click on the desktop, all that comes up is the application header > bar. With no other options. I was in the process of removing Corel WP8 > manually when this happened. The other window managers work fine. But > the other members of the household seem to like wmaker. I tried apt-get > remove wmaker. It removed it except for /etc/X11/Windowmaker, > /etc/GNUstep/Defaults, and /etc/GNUstep because they were not empty. So > I emptied them. and then did an apt-get install wmaker. Still the same > problem. I guess I should just leave well enough alone. Any way to > restore this without a full install would be nice. Thanks in advance. Check your ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/ directory. Usually the menu is saved in there. Also try running wmaker.inst again to reconfigure default settings (including menus). HTH Craig -- Craig Holyoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uq.net.au/craigh/
Re: windowmaker themes
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:06:11PM +1000, Renai LeMay uttered: > is there a package for unstable containing windowmaker themes? I was using > fvwm but have recently acquired a large amount of ram > Bah, WindowMaker doesn't use _that_ much RAM. :-) $ apt-cache search windowmaker | grep theme theme-converters - Convert WindowMaker/GTK+/Sawmill theme packages to .debs You may find that package being what you're after. http://wm.themes.org is also very good as well, with over 2000 themes. -- Steve "I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest." --Me
Re: WindowMaker Rocks!! ;-) (Was: FW: OT : GUI Interfaces)
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 02:02:05AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > I prefer to leave raw function keys to low-level functions -- menus, > etc. Good point. That's why I leave F1-8 free, but the only conflict I've had with F9/F10 has been with running MS Visual C++ over a VNC session, which is a flavor of pain I will never have to endure again anyhow. > I think Debian maps the Legacy MS > Windows key to Meta or somesuch. I don't know about Debian in general, but wmakerconf has a dropdown that lets you pick whether Meta is tied to Mod1 (Alt) or Mod4 (WinKey). The one problem with it is that, on every keyboard I've tried, Mod4 only maps to the left winkey; I haven't been able to come up with anything to make the right winkey equivalent or even usable (it gets seen as a sequence instead of a single keystroke). Not that I've tried very hard... > Well, one reason is that if I try to install wmakerconf, apt tries to > uninstall wmaker. A config tool without what it configures sorta sucks. > This under Woody. Actually, wmakerconf itself installs fine. It's wmakerconf-data that has the inexplicable conflict. (OK, not really inexplicable - the updated wmakerconf-data has moved into testing, but the corresponding wmaker is still hung up in unstable. But I thought that packages which conflict with the version in testing were supposed to stay in unstable until that gets fixed...) > What's wmakerconf do that WPrefs doesn't? Mostly just a lot of checkboxes for various settings that, admittedly, aren't very important. WPrefs is functionally complete, but wmakerconf has more knobs to twiddle. I also like to play with my window decorations from time to time and WPrefs doesn't seem to offer as many options there - not just fonts, but also multistage gradients, etc. And I can't seem to get WPrefs to let me set anything other than textures; plain colors refuse to cooperate. IIRC, the thing that really got me, though, was that at one point the 'capture' option for setting hotkeys recognized the winkey as a meta in wmakerconf, but WPrefs completely ignored it. Checking against the current version from woody, I see that WPrefs now sees left winkey-1 as Mod2+Mod4+1. (Right winkey, all by itself, comes through as Mod2+Multi_key, so it still appears unusable. Ah, well.) > One thing WMPrefs *is* is a NeXT-like GNUStep application, using the > GNUStep toolkit. There's not a lot of these apps, the somewhat broken > filesystem browser fsviewer is one of them. In the case of WMPrefs v. > wmakerconf, I find WMPref's interface cleaner. Fair enough. WPrefs does look a lot cleaner and a lot nicer. -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
Re: WindowMaker Rocks!! ;-) (Was: FW: OT : GUI Interfaces)
on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:26:01PM -0500, Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:51:38PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:13:22AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: <...> > > You also have various options for opening menus. By default, > > right-mouse on root window is apps menu, middle mouse is window list. > > These are bound to and as well. > > Yes, I know my wmaker menus fairly well, but I bind hotkeys to everything > common... F9 for netscape, F10 to bring up an Eterm (What can I say? > I like the flashy stuff sometimes...), Windows-Z (a lot of apps like > to use Alt-foo themselves, so I've got all my wmaker hotkeys bound to > Windows-foo instead) to lock the screen, F12-Up-Right-Enter to log out, > F12-Down-Enter for GIMP. That's about all I ever use. (Anything else, > I start from an Eterm.) I prefer to leave raw function keys to low-level functions -- menus, etc. Actually, binding man or info to might be fun- I somewhat bind to the CUA settings -- - kills a window, ferexample. Apps I've put on -, though I suppose would work as well... I think Debian maps the Legacy MS Windows key to Meta or somesuch. > > Incidentally, WPrefs is reason #15,835 for loving WindowMaker -- this is > > one slick, well-thought out, and functional configuration utility. > > There's little that I want configured which it doesn't provide for. > > Anyhow, the real reason for my reply: Why do you like WPrefs so much? I > used it initially, then discovered wmakerconf. At that point, there were > some things that could only be done in WPrefs, so I used both, but, IIRC, > wmakerconf now does everything that WPrefs does, plus quite a bit more. Well, one reason is that if I try to install wmakerconf, apt tries to uninstall wmaker. A config tool without what it configures sorta sucks. This under Woody. What's wmakerconf do that WPrefs doesn't? I have checked both from time to time (/me goes and fires up wmakerconf from desktop, which is running Sid). OK, wmakerconf buys you the option to specify titlebar fonts and apparently a tie-in to some themes websites. Otherwise, it's pretty much the same stuff. One thing WMPrefs *is* is a NeXT-like GNUStep application, using the GNUStep toolkit. There's not a lot of these apps, the somewhat broken filesystem browser fsviewer is one of them. In the case of WMPrefs v. wmakerconf, I find WMPref's interface cleaner. Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgps3dIJBdtq2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker Rocks!! ;-) (Was: FW: OT : GUI Interfaces)
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:51:38PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:13:22AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > You missed my favorite icewm (in 3 flavors - -gnome -lite). The most > > Windows-like wm (not counting KDE's). > > Legacy MS Windows is not necessarially the Gold Standard® of GUI shell > design. Amen to that, brother! > You also have various options for opening menus. By default, > right-mouse on root window is apps menu, middle mouse is window list. > These are bound to and as well. Yes, I know my wmaker menus fairly well, but I bind hotkeys to everything common... F9 for netscape, F10 to bring up an Eterm (What can I say? I like the flashy stuff sometimes...), Windows-Z (a lot of apps like to use Alt-foo themselves, so I've got all my wmaker hotkeys bound to Windows-foo instead) to lock the screen, F12-Up-Right-Enter to log out, F12-Down-Enter for GIMP. That's about all I ever use. (Anything else, I start from an Eterm.) > Incidentally, WPrefs is reason #15,835 for loving WindowMaker -- this is > one slick, well-thought out, and functional configuration utility. > There's little that I want configured which it doesn't provide for. Anyhow, the real reason for my reply: Why do you like WPrefs so much? I used it initially, then discovered wmakerconf. At that point, there were some things that could only be done in WPrefs, so I used both, but, IIRC, wmakerconf now does everything that WPrefs does, plus quite a bit more. -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
RE: WindowMaker Question
Hi, yes it does. Take a look at "The Dock App Warehouse" http://www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/ -- Pascal > -Message d'origine- > De: Christopher W. Aiken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: mardi 27 février 2001 15:52 > À: Debian Users > Objet: WindowMaker Question > > > > Is there a "dock" program like "xbiff" that will visually > notify me when my fetchmail daemon gets email delivered > to me? > > -- > Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA > chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com > : > A bus station is where a bus stops. > A train station is where a train stops. > On my desk, I have a work station > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Windowmaker and sound
It's there in potato. I don't a corresponding package with any kind of sounds. --- Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David A. Rogers wrote: > > > > Does the current version of WindowMaker do sound events? I > know earlier > > versions did with wmsound. But that was many versions ago > and wmsound seems > > to be dead. If it does sound now, how do you set it up? > > There's a package wsoundserver that works for this. I haven't > investigated > it thoroughly yet, as I just started using WindowMaker again > recently. I > should also note that I am using woody - I do not know about > the potato > packages. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/
Re: Windowmaker and sound
David A. Rogers wrote: > > Does the current version of WindowMaker do sound events? I know earlier > versions did with wmsound. But that was many versions ago and wmsound seems > to be dead. If it does sound now, how do you set it up? There's a package wsoundserver that works for this. I haven't investigated it thoroughly yet, as I just started using WindowMaker again recently. I should also note that I am using woody - I do not know about the potato packages. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. pgpykRIRlK474.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windowmaker themes?
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:11:37 +, Glyn Millington wrote: > So is there a "debian way" of installing Windowmaker themes Yes. wmakerthemetodeb(1), part of the "theme-converters" package. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Windowmaker themes?
Since installing a theme just consists of copying files into the right spots there is no need to have .debs just go to www.themes.org and find something you like and do what it says. -- Original Message -- From: Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Glyn Millington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:11:37 + >Good morning! > >I've tried Gnome and KDE 2 but am utterly hooked on Windowmaker. But in >these dark damp English autumn days it would be nice to have something >brighter on the desktop than the tasteful and elegant but quiet themes that >came with my Potato CD's - but I don't want to mess up my tasteful and >elegant Debian filesystem. > >So is there a "debian way" of installing Windowmaker themes - or is there >somewhere a repository of .deb themes that I haven't found yet? > >TIA > >Glyn M > > > > > > >-- > > * None can love freedom heartily but good men; * > *the rest love not freedom but license * > *John Milton * > > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: windowmaker
> > I am running WindowMaker under Gnome. > > I want to have the wmitime icom appear on my desktop when I log in. > > Putting a line like: > > exec wmitime in my .xsession file does not work. > > > > How should this be done? A simple way to do it is: After starting X, with GNOME/Wm running, just execute wmitime; Drag the wmitime to Window Maker's launch bar (that with the stair and circle). It will be "glued" to the bar; Close/kill the wmitime. A launcher similar to the others will appear in its place; Right-click on the launcher and click on "Settings...". A window will appear; Mark the option "Start when Window Maker is started" and click on "OK". That's it. Taupter
Re: windowmaker
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 08:33:16PM +0800, Goeman Stefan wrote > Hello, > > > Probably a stupid question. > > I am running WindowMaker under Gnome. > I want to have the wmitime icom appear on my desktop when I log in. > Putting a line like: > exec wmitime in my .xsession file does not work. > > How should this be done? > Maybe a stupid answer... Most Xsession files end with a command like exec wmanager to start a window manager or some other persistent app; your session ends when that app ends, and bash stops executing your script at that point, as the exec command replaces the bash process with your wmanager (or whatever). If you just add exec wmitime to the end of an existing, working Xsession, the command will never be executed; add a command like wmitime & to your Xsession before the "exec" command that was probably there when you started and it should work. For a little more info on "exec", man bash and search for ' exec ' HTH, John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin & support:technical services
Re: windowmaker
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 09:45:10AM +0200, Goeman Stefan wrote: :Hello, : : :Probably a stupid question. : :I am running WindowMaker under Gnome. :I want to have the wmitime icom appear on my desktop when I log in. :Putting a line like: :exec wmitime in my .xsession file does not work. so should be: wmtime & what ever you `exec` becomes the session manager (usually your windowmanager) nothing else after this in .xsession is looked at and if you close this process your whole Xsession goes away. the "&" backgrounds the task and returns control to the .xsession script, without this your startup would hang (apps that exit quickly like xsetroot don't need this, but it won't hurt) -Jon
Re: windowmaker
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 09:45:10AM +0200, Goeman Stefan wrote: > Hello, > > > Probably a stupid question. > > I am running WindowMaker under Gnome. > I want to have the wmitime icom appear on my desktop when I log in. Is this a docked icon? How about launching the app, dragging it to the dock, right-clicking on it, and selecting "Start when WindowMaker is started" from the "Settings" menu? You may have to save your WM session. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpKlelHDIHd2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windowmaker instead of GNOME at startup ?
My method for gdm is put wmaker in your ~/.xsession with permission -x or #!/bin/sh exec wmaker in your ~/.xsession with permission +x then select Debian session as your default session or if you use xdm/startx that should do the work. Chanop Once upon a time, I heard Oliver Schoenknecht say > Hey there, > > when I start my PC GNOME's login screen is directly loaded (with > Enlightenment as Window Manager). Now I do want to use > WindowMaker instead of GNOME (and just WindowMaker). The > problem is that I have solved to let run WindowMaker instead of > Enlightenment under GNOME, but not instead of it. > > So do you know any possibility that GNOME's login screen lets > me choose the pure WindowMaker session ? > > Best regards and thanks for your time, > > Oliver > -- ## #Chanop Silpa-Anan # #gpg @ http://kenji.anu.edu.au/~chanop/chanop.asc# ## pgpdD5vVamBjl.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Windowmaker instead of GNOME at startup ?
Hi Oliver. When you say PC GNOME login screen I suppose you mean the gdm (gnome desktop manager) login welcome screen. The one that lest you choose various types of window manager, diferent languages and to shutdown/rboot the machine. gdm reads the session configuration from the files located in the directory: /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions if you examine this directory you should have a few file like gnome, default, fvwm2, ... these are scripts run by gdm to start a window manager on login (and set a few other variables). you can copy one of these files and replace the commands that start the window manager for wmaker. If no you can simply put /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker (if this is the correct path of course) in a file called wmaker in that directory, dont forget to make it executable (chmod a+x /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/wmaker). Another way should be to make a .xsession file in your home directory (again with execution permisions) and put wmaker in the file (or the complete path to wmaker). Then when you choose default in any desktop manager it should run your .xsession script (unless you have a .xclient file that overrides it) Why gnome is running is because a gnome-session is called in one or more of these files I mentioned (/etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/..., .xclient, .xsession,.. or maybe one Ive mist!) Hope I helped a little :), if not send me an e-mail and Ill try to do it better next time !. Regards, Mark. - Original Message - From: Oliver Schoenknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:56 PM Subject: Windowmaker instead of GNOME at startup ? > Hey there, > > when I start my PC GNOME's login screen is directly loaded (with > Enlightenment as Window Manager). Now I do want to use > WindowMaker instead of GNOME (and just WindowMaker). The > problem is that I have solved to let run WindowMaker instead of > Enlightenment under GNOME, but not instead of it. > > So do you know any possibility that GNOME's login screen lets > me choose the pure WindowMaker session ? > > Best regards and thanks for your time, > > Oliver > > --- > Mit freundlichem Gruss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oliver Schoenknecht Join us at http://www.kapa.de > > KOSTENLOS! Online-Auktion bei KAPA! > Teilnahme unter: http://www.flohmarkt.kapa.de > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: WindowMaker .61 in Slink
(list added to distribution, it appears to have fallen off) If you're running an X window manager from the system init scripts (look for a file matching /etc/init.d/*dm), you want to stop it. The following should work though it's a bit broad: $ for file in /etc/init.d/*dm; do $file stop; done ...this should stop your X windows session. Otherwise, look for processing matching 'x': $ ps lax | grep -i x ...again, that's broad, but one of these should be your X windows process. Likely candidates include xdm, kdm, gdm, wdm, xinit, startx, X, XF86_SVGA, XF86_S3, etc. On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:32:17PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > I don't know how to stop X windows (what would the pid be, ps doesn't show > it). > > Thanks, > Cameron Matheson > > > > kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > Try starting X from a console prompt as follows: > > > >startx wmaker -- 1> startx.log 2>&1 & > > > > If it works, cool. > > > > If it doesn't, look at startx.log and maybe post it. > > > > On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:24:00PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > > > I long time ago I used to use the new version of WindowMaker with > > > Gnome. I have since formatted, and do not want Gnome back on my system > > > (I like TKDesk better). Anyways, I downloaded wmaker, and wmaker-plain > > > off of debian.org/~vincent, but it doesn't work. I installed if fine, > > > and WindowMaker starts to load up, but then goes back to the X login > > > screen. I checked my .xsession-errors file, and this is what it said: > > > > > > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not find icon file > > > "inspect.xpm" > > > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not find icon file > > > "inspect.xpm" > > > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker: error in loading shared libraries > > > : undefined symbol: RGetXImage > > > > > > I'm stumped, what should I do? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Cameron Matheson > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > > -- > > Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself > > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! > > http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Rusty? http://www.kuro5hin.org > > GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 > > > > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature > -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Rusty? http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgprSD4Yrheun.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker .61 in Slink
Try starting X from a console prompt as follows: startx wmaker -- 1> startx.log 2>&1 & If it works, cool. If it doesn't, look at startx.log and maybe post it. On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:24:00PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote: > Hey, > > I long time ago I used to use the new version of WindowMaker with > Gnome. I have since formatted, and do not want Gnome back on my system > (I like TKDesk better). Anyways, I downloaded wmaker, and wmaker-plain > off of debian.org/~vincent, but it doesn't work. I installed if fine, > and WindowMaker starts to load up, but then goes back to the X login > screen. I checked my .xsession-errors file, and this is what it said: > > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not find icon file > "inspect.xpm" > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker warning: could not find icon file > "inspect.xpm" > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker: error in loading shared libraries > : undefined symbol: RGetXImage > > I'm stumped, what should I do? > > Thanks, > Cameron Matheson > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Rusty? http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpogID9jRv48.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker menus are all gone!
On Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 02:56:08PM -0600, Brad wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:29:27PM -0500, Mike Werner wrote: > > > > I had the same problem a couple of times. What I found to work > > was: > > 1) Drop to a shell, exiting X completely > > 2) Run update-menus as root > > 3) Run update-menus as your regular user > > Note that this step will mean that you have to run update-menus as your > user every time new packages are installed, the automatic mechanism > won't work for that user anymore. Urk. So *that's* what happened. I was wondering about that. > The normal configuration refers to global files that are updated when > the package postinst runs update-menus (as root). Running update-menus > as the user creates these files in the user's directory, so the global > ones aren't used anymore. How can I fix that now that I've screwed it up? I've looked around in my home directory and the only menu file I can find is a file for a menu entry that is specific to this specific username. And it was because of that particular entry that I started doing the update-menus as a user. But I use that package so rarely that I can do without the menu entry. (It was a /net install of Star Office) -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | "Where do you want to go today?" ICQ# 12934898 | "As far from Redmond as possible!" '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
Re: WindowMaker menus are all gone!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:29:27PM -0500, Mike Werner wrote: > > I had the same problem a couple of times. What I found to work > was: > 1) Drop to a shell, exiting X completely > 2) Run update-menus as root > 3) Run update-menus as your regular user Note that this step will mean that you have to run update-menus as your user every time new packages are installed, the automatic mechanism won't work for that user anymore. The normal configuration refers to global files that are updated when the package postinst runs update-menus (as root). Running update-menus as the user creates these files in the user's directory, so the global ones aren't used anymore. > 4) Restart X and your menus should be back -- finger for GPG public key. pgppAfypdxYrT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker menus are all gone!
Le 2000-02-25 12:54:25 -0500, Jonathan Markevich écrivait : > I installed potato's windowmaker last night, and it worked fine until I > stepped through the configuration boxes. When it got to the menu one, it > complained that all of the applications were wrong, or something like > that... so it promptly deleted the menus. > > I have purged and reinstalled it a few times and can't get the menus back! > How do I do so??? Thanks. If I remember well, replace the content of your "~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu" file by : "menu.hook" Hope it helps. -- Jean-Philippe Guérard
Re: WindowMaker menus are all gone!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 12:54:25PM -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote: > I installed potato's windowmaker last night, and it worked fine until I > stepped through the configuration boxes. When it got to the menu one, it > complained that all of the applications were wrong, or something like > that... so it promptly deleted the menus. > > I have purged and reinstalled it a few times and can't get the menus back! > How do I do so??? Thanks. I had the same problem a couple of times. What I found to work was: 1) Drop to a shell, exiting X completely 2) Run update-menus as root 3) Run update-menus as your regular user 4) Restart X and your menus should be back There is probably a much better way to do this, but this was all I could figure out to do and it seemed to work for me. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | "Where do you want to go today?" ICQ# 12934898 | "As far from Redmond as possible!" '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
Re: windowmaker and gnome
On Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 11:06:28AM +0200, Ralf Comtesse wrote > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > hello, I want to use windowmaker with gnome panel. can anybody share > > their configs with me? I would like to use gnone panel for all my > > buttons and windowmaker as windowmanager instead of enlightenment. > > Hello Gana, > > I do use this combination on my computer and I would even share _my_ > configuration with you. But: I still have not solved out, that > windowmaker's and gnome's session management get in each others way. > It seems, that I cannot keep one of them from starting lots of apps > from the last session. > To all: Maybe someone else can help me? You should be able to turn WindowMaker's session management off, by disabling "Automatically save session when exiting WindowMaker" in WPrefs and selecting "Clear Session" from the desktop "Workspace" menu. That should leave gnome-session solely in charge of session management. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything." - Bill Gates in Denmark
Re: windowmaker and gnome
Ralf Comtesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To all: Maybe someone else can help me? One way that works ok for me: don't run gnome-session, don't let windowmaker save session on exit, save windowmaker session manually from the menu whenever you want.
Re: windowmaker and gnome
"T.V.Gnanasekaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want to use windowmaker with gnome panel.
> can anybody share their configs with me?
I can give a description of my current setup.
- I have moved away from windowmaker's dock/clip/etc since trying out
the stable gnome panel. I disabled clip & dock with wmakerconf
- I have one visible bottom panel containing deskguide, tasklist,
clock etc.; one auto-hide top panel containing menus, minicommander,
and launcher buttons for frequently-used apps.
This basically replaces my clip & dock functionality and seems easier
to manage. They are an elegant concept some app icons would never work
quite right. Also I find the auto-hide useful.
- I disabled all appicons & resizebars with the following
~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMWindowAttributes:
{
"*" = {
NoAppIcon = Yes;
NoResizebar = Yes;
};
}
- windowmaker-gnome ignores gnome panels when maximizing windows; so I
use the "no window over icons" option as a workaround. Enlarge windows
to full size manually if needed.
- I start up with the following in ~/.xsession:
# install any manual edits to wmaker config files
mv -b ~/GNUstep/Defaults/new/* ~/GNUstep/Defaults
WindowMaker-gnome >>~/.xsessionlog 2>&1
Or you could try using gnome-session.
Hope this helps,
-Simon
Re: windowmaker and gnome
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > hello, I want to use windowmaker with gnome panel. can anybody share > their configs with me? I would like to use gnone panel for all my > buttons and windowmaker as windowmanager instead of enlightenment. Hello Gana, I do use this combination on my computer and I would even share _my_ configuration with you. But: I still have not solved out, that windowmaker's and gnome's session management get in each others way. It seems, that I cannot keep one of them from starting lots of apps from the last session. To all: Maybe someone else can help me? To Gana: If you are still interested drop me a line Regards, Ralf -- Ralf Comtessee-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Cetus Team. For OO links visit: http://www.cetus-links.org pgpM2IsWpr3vM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WindowMaker for newbie.
Thanks for the info. First, My mail is on Lotus Notes at work on a M$ PC. I don't have access to set the line length, Sorry everyone. I edited my /etc/window-manager file and now WindowMaker starts from login. Boy X is confusing. I downloaded wmsound from the debian site and installed it, I'll have a read through the WindowMaker user guide, I think I installed it, I'll have a look. I do have sound compiled on both mine and my daughters PC's, but I seem to have a network problem which prevents nas to provide sound to my daughters X-Terminal. I'll save this for a separate E-Mail. Thanks again for all your help and information. Cheers, John Gay
Re: WindowMaker for newbie.
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On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, John Gay wrote:
> Well, after my request for info about Enlightenment, I decided to go
> with WindowMaker due to my daughters 8bit colour limit. I installed it
> with little problem, except that dselect kept saying that WindowMaker
> suggested asclock and asclock didn't seem to be available.
i can't help you with the CDs, but it should be available somewhere under
/debian/dists/stable on your favorite Debian mirror.
> I ignored this as it was only a suggestion, and WindowMaker installed
> fine. I did notice that WindowMaker also has something about WMsound,
> but I couldn't find that on my CD.
Look in /debian/dists/stable/main/binary-${ARCH}/sound, where ${ARCH} is
your archetecture (for example, i386 for PCs, m68k for some-or-other
version of Apples (i forget which), and so on).
> My system still starts up with fvwm95, but I can switch to WindowMaker
> from the menu, no problem. I had a go at changing this, but didn't get
> very far. I use xdm to give me my login screen on boot-up so I read
> about xdm in the man pages. I currently don't have a .Xsession or
> .xinit file in either mine or my daughters home directory. I had a
> look around in the xdm directories, but couldn't find a file that
> seemed to start fvwm95. I think right now the best place for me to
> change this would be in the system wide file, so WindowMaker starts
> for any login, rather than in the individual ~/ directories.
X can be a bit confusing to set up. If you'll notice, the xdm manpage
mentions that it runs Xsession when the user logs in. The Xsession manpage
tells you that, if there's no .xsession in the home directory, it looks in
/etc/X11/window-managers. The window-managers manpage tells you that the
first functional window manager in that file will be the one it uses. So,
you just edit that file so /usr/bin/X11/wmaker is the first one, and
you're set.
> I do like the look of WindowMaker and have played around with some of
> the system tools. They're not quite as easy as Windows control panel,
> but I really like the way it looks. My daughter has even had a go at
> it!
Have you read the WindowMaker user's guide? It's a good starting point for
learning how to use it. (Install the package wmaker-usersguide-ps)
Also, most of the packages with names beginning "wm" are dockapps for
WindowMaker (there's 11 that aren't, IIRC, and only 3 of those don't seem
to be related to WindowMaker at all)
> I want to get the system sound configured, but as I said, I couldn't
> fine WMsound on my CD. Do I need to get this from WindowMaker's site,
> or are there .debs available?
Do you have your sound set up already? Can't get WindowMaker to make noise
until you get sound working at all. ;) Figure out which soundcard you
have, and check the archives and the various HOWTOs (although the howtos
are a little dated). You probably will need to recompile the kernel. And
finally, any user that wants to play sound needs write permissions to
/dev/dsp (or possible /dev/audio). The quickest way to do this is to
"adduser username audio" to add the user to group audio (which should own
/dev/dsp, etc.)
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Re: WindowMaker for newbie.
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, John Gay wrote: > > > around in the xdm directories, but couldn't find a file that seemed to start > fvwm95. There should be somewhere a file named window-managers. If you change in that file wmaker to be the topmost-one, it will be started first. (By the way, I'm regularly using ee (the easy editor) for such kind jobs. It is meant for the newbies with the computers and it seems to be the best one after you get tired with these machines after some 10 year's of using them...) -hv
Re: windowmaker and gnome
Aaron> Ok, I think gnome is running fine however I want the panel Aaron> and midnight commander to start when I startx. Putting these Aaron> in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart causes windowmakeer Aaron> to freeze just as it loads. So how can I get the panel to Aaron> autoload? I don't use gnome (yet), but I had a similar problem with window maker freezing when starting xautolock from autostart. Have you put "&" after the commands that start apps in autostart? For example: #!/bin/sh xset m 42/10 4 xautolock -notify 10 -bell 100 & -- Gilbert Laycock email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maths and Computer Science, http://www.mcs.le.ac.uk/~glaycock Leicester Universityphone: (+44) 116 252 3902
Re: windowmaker and gnome
I've never tried to put the panel in autostart, but I put the commands I wants in .xseesion (in your case will be .xinitrc) just before exec wmaker. I even tried the gnome-session and it worked fine, but had the tendency of autoload more than one intances of the same apps. For autpplacing the windows take a look at WPrefs: it will help you configuring wmaker. One of the options is the one you are looking for. graziano On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:58:46PM -0500, Aaron Solochek wrote: > Ok, I think gnome is running fine however I want the panel and > midnight commander to start when I startx. Putting these in > ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart causes windowmakeer to freeze > just as it loads. So how can I get the panel to autoload? Also, on a > more general note, is there someway to get autoloading apps to be > autoplaced, eventhough I have manual placement turned on? I am > basically trying to avoid having to click the mouse to place my eterm > when X starts. > > -Aaron Solochek > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: windowmaker and gnome
It should already be loading, you might find a bunch of errors in your .xsession. it appears there is some bug in loading gnome-panel when you load it the first time. Other times seem to work. bb -Original Message- From: Aaron Solochek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 9:59 PM To: debian- user Subject: windowmaker and gnome Ok, I think gnome is running fine however I want the panel and midnight commander to start when I startx. Putting these in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart causes windowmakeer to freeze just as it loads. So how can I get the panel to autoload? Also, on a more general note, is there someway to get autoloading apps to be autoplaced, eventhough I have manual placement turned on? I am basically trying to avoid having to click the mouse to place my eterm when X starts. -Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: windowmaker menu went away
> now I'm lost. I guess if I can start the gnome windowmaker thats all > I need. If anyone knows anything about this I'd appreaciate any > insite. Default menus in Debian are handled by the automatic menu system ... e.g., Xemacs "registers" with the menu system when it is installed (and "unregisters" when it is uninstalled), and then WindowMaker asks the Debian menu system what applications are installed ... Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | And if you hold on tight to what you think is your thing | |you may find you're missing all the rest ...| |- Dave Matthews, "Best of What's Around" | --
Re: windowmaker menu went away
> On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:17:37 -0500, Aaron Solochek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: Hello, Aaron> I was messing around with wmakerconf and when I clicked on the menu Aaron> tab it asked me if I wanted to convert my current menu, and I said Aaron> yes. So it tried, and came up with an error, and next thing I knew Aaron> my menu was gone. I was able to put most of it back manually by Aaron> including the debian menu, but I still don't have the window Aaron> manager section and I have no idea how to rewrite that one. Until Aaron> then I had had all the menus just appear, and I never really Aaron> questions where it came from, so now I'm lost. I guess if I can Aaron> start the gnome windowmaker thats all I need. If anyone knows Aaron> anything about this I'd appreaciate any insite. just replace the file ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu with the following one and all problems should be gone! WMRootMenu Description: Binary data CU Dirk -- --- Dirk Schreiber\|/fax :+49 241 877743 Aachen/Germany (o o) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -ooO--(_)--Ooo-
Re: WindowMaker and GNOME
Thanks for the suggestion. I installed libwraster2, but I still can't switch to WindowMaker within GNOME. When I try, the following shows up in my .xsession-errors file: in capplet_widget_state_changed changing state X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). 11185814289298668600056480008 Panel panel 0:812:1152:52 0 1 8 11185814289302244330002840001 gtop gtop 363:13:707:788 0 0 4 got c 11185814289302244330002840001 gtop gtop 363:13:707:788 0 0 4 got c 11185814289298668600056480008 Panel panel 0:812:1152:52 0 1 8 WindowMaker-gnome fatal error: could not find user GNUstep directory (/home/kjohnson/GNUstep/Defaults/). Make sure you have installed Window Maker correctly and run wmaker.inst Bad option: ShowXButton Bad option: WindowListFontName /convert: No such file or directory /convert: No such file or directory /convert: No such file or directory /convert: No such file or directory Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkcontainer.c: line 723 (gtk_container_remove): assertion `widget->parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed. Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from `(unknown)' to `GtkWidget' Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3445 (gtk_widget_get_style): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkctree.c: line 5118 (gtk_ctree_node_set_foreground): assertion `GTK_IS_CTREE (ctree)' failed. I've looked for wmaker.inst on my system, but can't find it. I'm going out of town for a week, and will try to figure this out on my own when I get back. But if anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them. - Kris Heinrich Rebehn wrote: > > Kristopher Johnson wrote: > > > > I've installed GNOME and the wmaker-gnome package (using apt and a > > mirror of ftp.gnome.org). I can switch between IceWM and Enlightenment > > without any problem, but if I try to switch to WindowMaker using the > > GNOME Control Panel, it times out while trying to start. > > > > I'm running GNOME by using an .xsession with "exec gnome-session" in it. > > > > Any ideas about what's going wrong or what I can do to diagnose the > > problem? > > > > - Kris > > > > -- > > Did you install libwraster2 ? It is needed by WindowMaker-gnome but is > not automatically installed. > > Heinrich > > Heinrich Rebehn > > University of Bremen > Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering > - Department of Telecommunications - > > E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone : +49/421/218-4664 > Fax :-3341
Re: WindowMaker and GNOME
Kristopher Johnson wrote: > > I've installed GNOME and the wmaker-gnome package (using apt and a > mirror of ftp.gnome.org). I can switch between IceWM and Enlightenment > without any problem, but if I try to switch to WindowMaker using the > GNOME Control Panel, it times out while trying to start. > > I'm running GNOME by using an .xsession with "exec gnome-session" in it. > > Any ideas about what's going wrong or what I can do to diagnose the > problem? > > - Kris > > -- Did you install libwraster2 ? It is needed by WindowMaker-gnome but is not automatically installed. Heinrich Heinrich Rebehn University of Bremen Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering - Department of Telecommunications - E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone : +49/421/218-4664 Fax :-3341
Re: WindowMaker and GNOME
Kristopher Johnson wrote: > I've installed GNOME and the wmaker-gnome package (using apt and a > mirror of ftp.gnome.org). I can switch between IceWM and Enlightenment > without any problem, but if I try to switch to WindowMaker using the > GNOME Control Panel, it times out while trying to start. > > I'm running GNOME by using an .xsession with "exec gnome-session" in it. > > Any ideas about what's going wrong or what I can do to diagnose the > problem? > > - Kris > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Using gdm, I can switch to IceWM, Enlightenment and WindowMaker . Its just that WindowMaker doesn't work (see my other message). No idea whats going wrong or what you can do though. :-P frankie. -- ,-. > Frankie |Drum'n'Bass tunes, samples and links. < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk/ < `-' smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: windowmaker
KDE and GNOME support - Since 0.51.0-3 there are two additional pacakges, wmaker-gnome and wmaker-kde. They install: /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker-gnome [30] /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker-kde [20] They are registered with Debian's alternatives system (the numbers in brackets are the priorities used -- GNOME is in Debian, KDE is not) PLEASE NOTE: I don't use GNOME and I don't use KDE. That should give you a hint as how wonderfully tested the packages are. I'm providing them because some people have asked me to. If you submit a bug related to either GNOME or KDE support, PLEASE use the proper Package: field. You have been warned. The KDE package is compiled with --enable-kde --enable-lite. I won't make a wmaker-kde-lite package. If -lite doesn't work properly, please let me know. But please keep in mind: wmaker-kde is meant to _replace_ kwm, if --enable-lite is not used, KDE users will have a very hard time. (If you just want to use some KDE apps, I think you better use the normal wmaker package) | Hints (information given by applications to integrate well with the window | manager) for Motif(tm), OPEN LOOK(tm), KDE and GNOME are also supported. | So you can replace any of the window managers for these environments with | Window Maker while keeping most, if not all, of the native window manager | functionality. (that's from /usr/doc/wmaker/README.gz) >From Window Maker's NEWS file (/usr/doc/wmaker/NEWS.gz) --- 0.50.0 KDE and GNOME - Added full support for GNOME and KWM hints. Read the INSTALL file to see how enable them. Everything in the so called GNOME window manager bla bla bla pseudo-spec is implemented. As for KDE stuff, it implements 90% of everything kwm does, adds some Window Maker specific extensions to it and still uses half of the memory kwm does, which should be enough to let you dump kwm ;) For details on what exactly is implemented, see comments in src/kwm.c Read the README.KDE file for more information. WARNING: Some KDE hints are badly designed, so doing things like using kpanel's desktop switcher/pager and Window Maker's internal workspace management functions to create, destroy and rename workspaces at the same time might cause unknown effects. To be on the safe side, only use either of them to manage workspaces. Switching workspaces is hopefully, safe, so you can switch workspaces from wherever you want. Marcelo
Re: Windowmaker .53 and wdm (libwraster1)
On Sun, Apr 25, 1999 at 01:41:59AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: > Hi all: > > I've compiled and installed WindowMaker 0.53. I refused to work until > I removed libwraster1, but wdm was using that one... So I had to > switch to Login.app, which I don't like as much as I liked wdm. :( > > Is there any way to get wdm working with WM 0.53? I'm running Slink. /me is running slink, too I have the very same situation here. wdm from slink and wmaker 0.53.0 (in fact, wmaker 0.53.0-2), and it works. http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/wmaker/ is what you need. Marcelo
Re: WindowMaker themes -> Debian packages
On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 01:14:34PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Wooo another one! Diversity is strength... it is, isn't it? :) > I think the best solution would be something like the kernel-package > package that takes a common formated tree, such as the themes from > *.themes.org and creates a Debian packages out of it. Be careful what you wish for, it might come true: http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/wmaker-theme-package_0.1_all.deb This has some rough edges. Something that should be high on the TODO list is fixing themes (that s|~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/|| detail). The package is lintian-clean, and the packages it produces are lintian- clean, too. I should say this here: thanks Manoj! (and gecko, Crow and whole bunch of people that I don't recall right now) Marcelo
Re: WindowMaker themes -> Debian packages
Christian Lavoie wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi. Over the weekend, I wrote a script that converts WindowMaker > themes to > > >Debian packages automatically. (the themes have to follow wm.t.o's > packaging > > >policy). I think it would be useful for other Debian users but I > don't really > > >know what to do with it. > > > Wooo another one! Diversity is strength... > > > I've done one as well, although it doesn't do downloading and other > > features... I've also got a GTK theme convertor for gtk.themes.org... > > > I'm intending to package them once my maintainer status is cleared- > > but that'll be after slink arrives, at a guess... > > > http://www.arise.demon.co.uk/debian/ for anyone interested (.deb and > > .dsc/.tar.gz). > > I wonder... Could/Should this be a part of apt, as a method? > > Apt-get install-theme-wm mytheme > > What you guys think? I don't think its 'fair' to customize apt for one program (wmaker) and not other programs. Generally, apt is going to get more complex as time goes on (i.e. GUI interface), so adding this kind of special-purpose complexity is not a good idea. -- Ed C.
Re: WindowMaker themes -> Debian packages
*- On 20 Feb, Christian Lavoie wrote about "Re: WindowMaker themes -> Debian packages" >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Hi. Over the weekend, I wrote a script that converts WindowMaker > themes to >> >Debian packages automatically. (the themes have to follow wm.t.o's > packaging >> >policy). I think it would be useful for other Debian users but I > don't really >> >know what to do with it. > >> Wooo another one! Diversity is strength... > >> I've done one as well, although it doesn't do downloading and other >> features... I've also got a GTK theme convertor for gtk.themes.org... > >> I'm intending to package them once my maintainer status is cleared- >> but that'll be after slink arrives, at a guess... > >> http://www.arise.demon.co.uk/debian/ for anyone interested (.deb and >> .dsc/.tar.gz). > > I wonder... Could/Should this be a part of apt, as a method? > > Apt-get install-theme-wm mytheme > > What you guys think? > I think the best solution would be something like the kernel-package package that takes a common formated tree, such as the themes from *.themes.org and creates a Debian packages out of it. This will save space on the main archive and allow for the latest theme to be added to the system without having to wait for a maintainer to upload it to the archive. Just grab what ever one you want and build your own package and install it. -- Brian - "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: WindowMaker themes -> Debian packages
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi. Over the weekend, I wrote a script that converts WindowMaker themes to > >Debian packages automatically. (the themes have to follow wm.t.o's packaging > >policy). I think it would be useful for other Debian users but I don't really > >know what to do with it. > Wooo another one! Diversity is strength... > I've done one as well, although it doesn't do downloading and other > features... I've also got a GTK theme convertor for gtk.themes.org... > I'm intending to package them once my maintainer status is cleared- > but that'll be after slink arrives, at a guess... > http://www.arise.demon.co.uk/debian/ for anyone interested (.deb and > .dsc/.tar.gz). I wonder... Could/Should this be a part of apt, as a method? Apt-get install-theme-wm mytheme What you guys think? Christian Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WindowMaker themes -> Debian packages
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. Over the weekend, I wrote a script that converts WindowMaker themes to >Debian packages automatically. (the themes have to follow wm.t.o's packaging >policy). I think it would be useful for other Debian users but I don't really >know what to do with it. Wooo another one! Diversity is strength... I've done one as well, although it doesn't do downloading and other features... I've also got a GTK theme convertor for gtk.themes.org... I'm intending to package them once my maintainer status is cleared- but that'll be after slink arrives, at a guess... http://www.arise.demon.co.uk/debian/ for anyone interested (.deb and .dsc/.tar.gz). SRH -- Steve HaslamValidation Engineer, ARM Limited, Cambridge, England almost called it today, turned to face the void along with the suffering and the question- "Why am I?" [queensrÿche]
Re: WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
>| thanks for the input... I checked and I had those packages installed >| already... and I couldn't find any packages with the same name but without >| the 'g' at the end...It still gives the same error... >| ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory > >If I remember your problem correctly... > >The X11 libs are in /usr/X11R6/lib and you have to tell ld to >look there. If you post the top of your Makefile we should be >able to help. It was fixed with a previous suggestion of editing /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/X11.tmpl changing INCDIR = $(INCROOT) /* header files */ to be: INCDIR = $(INCROOT)/X11 /* header files */ Thank you..
Re: WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
*-"Tun Yang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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| thanks for the input... I checked and I had those packages installed
| already... and I couldn't find any packages with the same name but without
| the 'g' at the end...It still gives the same error...
| ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory
If I remember your problem correctly...
The X11 libs are in /usr/X11R6/lib and you have to tell ld to
look there. If you post the top of your Makefile we should be
able to help.
--
A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee to theorems
(Erd\H{o}s Pál)
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Re: WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 04:32:13PM -0500, Tun Yang wrote: [snip] > the 'g' at the end...It still gives the same error... > ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory > > I suspect I'm missing some X development package? Are there any others? > hmm I had the same error when compiling xanim, and it suggested the following fix (it worked when compiling xanim): === Problem: You are using Imake and XFree and the compiler can't find the X11 include files and you have installed the X11 include files. Solution: The Imake setup with XFree has recently been broken. The fix is to edit the file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/X11.tmpl and change the following line from: INCDIR = $(INCROOT) /* header files */ to be: INCDIR = $(INCROOT)/X11 /* header files */ === HTH -- -- + Peter Granroth + Microsoft is NOT the answer + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + Microsoft is the question + + http://granroth.ml.org + The answer is NO+ --
Re: WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
>> Hi... I was trying to install WindowMaker 0.20.3 that I got from >> www.windowmaker.org >> >> Alright... so I don't think I can build any X program at this point... but I >> can't find any X header/development stuff I didn't installcan someone >> tell me the packages? >> >> Also, I can't find libtiff-dev and libjpeg-dev packages, so maybe my >> problem is I need frozen/slink? > >I've got hamm, and the following packages (might not be a list of >everything you need, but hey, I'm just searching through dselect...); > >libtiff3g-dev >libjpegg-dev >xpm4g-dev >xlib6g-dev > >I've also got a few libc5 variants of some of the above (similar names >but without the g on the end). I'm not sure which I used when I compiled >wmaker 0.20.3. I've not installed anything that's not in hamm. thanks for the input... I checked and I had those packages installed already... and I couldn't find any packages with the same name but without the 'g' at the end...It still gives the same error... ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory I suspect I'm missing some X development package? Are there any others? hmm
Re: WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
On 12 Dec, Tun Yang wrote: *** Opt graphics libtiff3g-de 3.4beta037- 3.4beta037- tiff development files [libc6] > Hi... I was trying to install WindowMaker 0.20.3 that I got from > www.windowmaker.org > > Alright... so I don't think I can build any X program at this point... but I > can't find any X header/development stuff I didn't installcan someone > tell me the packages? > > Also, I can't find libtiff-dev and libjpeg-dev packages, so maybe my > problem is I need frozen/slink? I've got hamm, and the following packages (might not be a list of everything you need, but hey, I'm just searching through dselect...); libtiff3g-dev libjpegg-dev xpm4g-dev xlib6g-dev I've also got a few libc5 variants of some of the above (similar names but without the g on the end). I'm not sure which I used when I compiled wmaker 0.20.3. I've not installed anything that's not in hamm. -- Graham
Re: WindowMaker 0.19.1
On: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:28:03 +0530 (IST) XRDLAB writes: >> 1) As root run ldconfig. >> >> 2) Upgrade to xlib6g 3.3.2.3-1 (it4s in hamm). >> > I have it installed. > > Any other clue? I had the same problem with 0.19.1. I upgraded to xlib6g-3.3.2.3a-1 (note the a in the version number) and the problem went away. Torsten
RE: WindowMaker 0.19.1
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Paulo J. da Silva e Silva wrote: >Hi, > >I4ve posted a question about this on Saturday. You can search the wmaker 0.19 >thread. > That is where I got the address of the download site (from the maintainer, I think). >First, I recommend you to download the Debian version of wmaker 0.19.1 (it is >in unstable section (slink) in a Debian mirror site). Better than compiling >things yourself and no fear of putting things in the wrong place. > I have downloaded the debian packages of the program. I had mentioned the particular files I downloaded. >After that you4ll still have the _Xsetlocale problem. To solve it I was asked >to try two things: > > 1) As root run ldconfig. > > 2) Upgrade to xlib6g 3.3.2.3-1 (it4s in hamm). > I have it installed. Any other clue? TIA, sridhar Sridhar M. A Department of Physics University of Mysore, Manasagangotri Mysore 570 006, INDIA Tel: +91-821-516133 Fax: +91-821-516133 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
