Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
I have the same opinion. We have consensus in ServiceMix to move to Github too. But the question is whether we can/should do it separately. Regards Krzysztof On 20.04.2015 06:55, Christian Müller wrote: > Most/All Camel Extra committers/contributors would like to move to GitHub > and consider SF as "dead end" and not "state of the art". > > Best, > Christian > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak < > krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Should all *-extra projects from Apache Extra move together to the new >> home or can each project choose separately the >> new home? >> >> Regards >> Krzysztof >> >> On 12.03.2015 22:37, David Nalley wrote: >>> It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev >>> decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've >>> done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. >>> >>> --David >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) >>> wrote: >>>> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these >> folks have shown interest ;-) >>>> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving >> it. >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM >>>> To: dev@community.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>>> >>>> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) >>>> >>>> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the >> impression you were actively part of a group driving this. >>>> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Uli >>>> >>>> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>>> Moving board@ to BCC >>>>> >>>>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it >>>>> wasn't me!) >>>>> >>>>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't >>>>> know how actively but it is now a priority. >>>>> >>>>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his >>>>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his >> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>>> Corporation >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk >>>>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, >>>>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org >>>>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>>>> >>>>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >>>>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >>>>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of >> concept, no news since then. >>>>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Uli >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, >> 2016. >>>>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >>>>>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report >> each quarter. >>>>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>>>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >>>>>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision >> already (I'm not sure of the current status). >>>>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>>>>> provided by external companies) >>>>>> >>>>>> Ross >>>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>>>> Corporation >>>>>> >>>>>> >> -- >> Krzysztof Sobkowiak >> >> JEE & OSS Architect >> Apache Software Foundation Member >> Apache ServiceMix <http://servicemix.apache.org/> Committer & PMC chair >> Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC < >> http://www.pl.capgemini-sdm.com/en/> >> -- Krzysztof Sobkowiak JEE & OSS Architect Apache Software Foundation Member Apache ServiceMix <http://servicemix.apache.org/> Committer & PMC chair Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC <http://www.pl.capgemini-sdm.com/en/>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Most/All Camel Extra committers/contributors would like to move to GitHub and consider SF as "dead end" and not "state of the art". Best, Christian On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak < krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > Should all *-extra projects from Apache Extra move together to the new > home or can each project choose separately the > new home? > > Regards > Krzysztof > > On 12.03.2015 22:37, David Nalley wrote: > > It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev > > decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've > > done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. > > > > --David > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > > wrote: > >> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these > folks have shown interest ;-) > >> > >> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving > it. > >> > >> Ross > >> > >> -----Original Message- > >> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM > >> To: dev@community.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > >> > >> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) > >> > >> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the > impression you were actively part of a group driving this. > >> > >> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Uli > >> > >> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >>> Moving board@ to BCC > >>> > >>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it > >>> wasn't me!) > >>> > >>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't > >>> know how actively but it is now a priority. > >>> > >>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his > >>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his > infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. > >>> > >>> Ross > >>> > >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > >>> Corporation > >>> > >>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk > >>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, > >>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > >>> > >>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both > >>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on > >>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of > concept, no news since then. > >>> > >>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Uli > >>> > >>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, > 2016. > >>>> > >>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make > >>>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report > each quarter. > >>>> > >>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with > >>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with > >>>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision > already (I'm not sure of the current status). > >>>> > >>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services > >>>> provided by external companies) > >>>> > >>>> Ross > >>>> > >>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > >>>> Corporation > >>>> > >>>> > > -- > Krzysztof Sobkowiak > > JEE & OSS Architect > Apache Software Foundation Member > Apache ServiceMix <http://servicemix.apache.org/> Committer & PMC chair > Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC < > http://www.pl.capgemini-sdm.com/en/> >
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Hi Should all *-extra projects from Apache Extra move together to the new home or can each project choose separately the new home? Regards Krzysztof On 12.03.2015 22:37, David Nalley wrote: > It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev > decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've > done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. > > --David > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: >> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks >> have shown interest ;-) >> >> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. >> >> Ross >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM >> To: dev@community.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >> >> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) >> >> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the >> impression you were actively part of a group driving this. >> >> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Uli >> >> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>> Moving board@ to BCC >>> >>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it >>> wasn't me!) >>> >>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't >>> know how actively but it is now a priority. >>> >>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his >>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his >>> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>> Corporation >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk >>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, >>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>> >>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no >>> news since then. >>> >>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Uli >>> >>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >>>> >>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >>>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >>>> quarter. >>>> >>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >>>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >>>> (I'm not sure of the current status). >>>> >>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>>> provided by external companies) >>>> >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>> Corporation >>>> >>>> -- Krzysztof Sobkowiak JEE & OSS Architect Apache Software Foundation Member Apache ServiceMix <http://servicemix.apache.org/> Committer & PMC chair Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC <http://www.pl.capgemini-sdm.com/en/>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On 13 April 2015 at 20:42, Roger and Beth Whitcomb < rogerandb...@rbwhitcomb.com> wrote: > Pivot is using Apache Extras basically for "source-code for projects that > can't..." because of licensing issues. So, my feeling is we are different > than AOO. > AOO uses apache-extra, for libraries that we cannot include in our repo due to license restriction. These libraries are solely used by developers who work on the internals of AOO. One developer typically download the libraries once and then check from time to time for updates. The binaries are relative big, but the download numbers really low. These binaries should not be confused with our executables which are big and downloaded frequently, these are stored on sourceForge. rgds jan I. > > ~Roger Whitcomb > Apache Pivot PMC Chair > > > On 4/13/15 6:48 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > >> How much of Apache Extras is "binary dumping ground" (as used by OO >> builds), and how much is just "source-code for projects that >> can't/won't quite fit into ASF" (e.g. for licensing reasons or lack of >> community)? >> >> As long as you have the source code, then you can attach binaries to >> tagged releases in GitHub. >> >> Atlassian's BitBucket likewise provides both source code and binary >> hosting - here binaries are easier to attach independently. >> >> >> As I said, I also found BinTray a great way to do independent >> downloads, with the optional capability of Maven repository with >> mirroring to Central as a nice thing for those still doing >> Java/Groovy/Clojure/Scala etc. >> >> It's still "all eggs in one company's basket" of course.. but then so >> is SourceForge.. and at the moment I would be more worried about >> SourceForge disappearing than GitHub or Atlassian. >> >> On 13 April 2015 at 06:17, Branko Čibej wrote: >> >>> On 19.03.2015 06:22, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: >>> +1 for GitHub - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one or two people and not as clear way in to contribute. GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras organization there should be straight forward. >>> GitHub neither provides nor allows the kind of service that Apache >>> Extras needs. It's pretty much useless as a pure download server, their >>> terms explicitly say they can shut down a project without notice if they >>> don't like its bandwidth characteristics. >>> >>> As for binaries - I found it very useful to use BinTray for Beanshell - as I could do both Maven and regular downloads: >>> Do please consider that all the world cannot use Maven just as all the >>> world is not written in Java. >>> >>> -- Brane >>> >>> >> >> >
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Pivot is using Apache Extras basically for "source-code for projects that can't..." because of licensing issues. So, my feeling is we are different than AOO. ~Roger Whitcomb Apache Pivot PMC Chair On 4/13/15 6:48 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: How much of Apache Extras is "binary dumping ground" (as used by OO builds), and how much is just "source-code for projects that can't/won't quite fit into ASF" (e.g. for licensing reasons or lack of community)? As long as you have the source code, then you can attach binaries to tagged releases in GitHub. Atlassian's BitBucket likewise provides both source code and binary hosting - here binaries are easier to attach independently. As I said, I also found BinTray a great way to do independent downloads, with the optional capability of Maven repository with mirroring to Central as a nice thing for those still doing Java/Groovy/Clojure/Scala etc. It's still "all eggs in one company's basket" of course.. but then so is SourceForge.. and at the moment I would be more worried about SourceForge disappearing than GitHub or Atlassian. On 13 April 2015 at 06:17, Branko Čibej wrote: On 19.03.2015 06:22, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: +1 for GitHub - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one or two people and not as clear way in to contribute. GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras organization there should be straight forward. GitHub neither provides nor allows the kind of service that Apache Extras needs. It's pretty much useless as a pure download server, their terms explicitly say they can shut down a project without notice if they don't like its bandwidth characteristics. As for binaries - I found it very useful to use BinTray for Beanshell - as I could do both Maven and regular downloads: Do please consider that all the world cannot use Maven just as all the world is not written in Java. -- Brane
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
How much of Apache Extras is "binary dumping ground" (as used by OO builds), and how much is just "source-code for projects that can't/won't quite fit into ASF" (e.g. for licensing reasons or lack of community)? As long as you have the source code, then you can attach binaries to tagged releases in GitHub. Atlassian's BitBucket likewise provides both source code and binary hosting - here binaries are easier to attach independently. As I said, I also found BinTray a great way to do independent downloads, with the optional capability of Maven repository with mirroring to Central as a nice thing for those still doing Java/Groovy/Clojure/Scala etc. It's still "all eggs in one company's basket" of course.. but then so is SourceForge.. and at the moment I would be more worried about SourceForge disappearing than GitHub or Atlassian. On 13 April 2015 at 06:17, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 19.03.2015 06:22, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: >> +1 for GitHub - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one >> or two people and not as clear way in to contribute. >> >> >> GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras >> organization there should be straight forward. > > GitHub neither provides nor allows the kind of service that Apache > Extras needs. It's pretty much useless as a pure download server, their > terms explicitly say they can shut down a project without notice if they > don't like its bandwidth characteristics. > >> As for binaries - I found it very useful to use BinTray for Beanshell >> - as I could do both Maven and regular downloads: > > Do please consider that all the world cannot use Maven just as all the > world is not written in Java. > > -- Brane > -- Stian Soiland-Reyes Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating) http://orcid.org/-0001-9842-9718
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > Do please consider that all the world cannot use Maven just as all the > world is not written in Java. > Lately, it appears that the fraction of the world that can use maven or a cache of maven is pretty large. Even our very finicky financial customers can often access an internal maven mirror that contains approved items.
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On 19.03.2015 06:22, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > +1 for GitHub - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one > or two people and not as clear way in to contribute. > > > GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras > organization there should be straight forward. GitHub neither provides nor allows the kind of service that Apache Extras needs. It's pretty much useless as a pure download server, their terms explicitly say they can shut down a project without notice if they don't like its bandwidth characteristics. > As for binaries - I found it very useful to use BinTray for Beanshell > - as I could do both Maven and regular downloads: Do please consider that all the world cannot use Maven just as all the world is not written in Java. -- Brane
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Hi I prefer the migration to Github too. It's currently the most popular hosting for projects. For binaries I would prefer the Maven Central, but each project can make own decision where the binaries should be deployed. Regards Krzysztof On 19.03.2015 12:22, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > +1 for GitHub - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one > or two people and not as clear way in to contribute. > > > GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras > organization there should be straight forward. > > As for binaries - I found it very useful to use BinTray for Beanshell > - as I could do both Maven and regular downloads: > > https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/beanshell/wiki/Download > > On 12 March 2015 at 21:49, Christopher wrote: >> I don't know the reasons for choosing SF, but I'd highly recommend >> putting serious consideration into GitHub. It's quite pleasant to work >> with, and although I'm not a part of the apache-extras, I think those >> who are would be quite satisfied with it (that's just my personal >> opinion, of course). >> >> -- >> Christopher L Tubbs II >> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:37 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>> It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev >>> decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've >>> done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. >>> >>> --David >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) >>> wrote: >>>> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks >>>> have shown interest ;-) >>>> >>>> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. >>>> >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM >>>> To: dev@community.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>>> >>>> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) >>>> >>>> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the >>>> impression you were actively part of a group driving this. >>>> >>>> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Uli >>>> >>>> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>>> Moving board@ to BCC >>>>> >>>>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it >>>>> wasn't me!) >>>>> >>>>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't >>>>> know how actively but it is now a priority. >>>>> >>>>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his >>>>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his >>>>> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>>> Corporation >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk >>>>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, >>>>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org >>>>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>>>> >>>>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >>>>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >>>>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, >>>>> no news since then. >>>>> >>>>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Uli >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, >>>>>> 2016. >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >>>>>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >>>>>> quarter. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>>>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >>>>>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >>>>>> (I'm not sure of the current status). >>>>>> >>>>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>>>>> provided by external companies) >>>>>> >>>>>> Ross >>>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>>>> Corporation >>>>>> >>>>>> > > -- Krzysztof Sobkowiak JEE & OSS Architect Apache Software Foundation Member Apache ServiceMix <http://servicemix.apache.org/> Committer & PMC chair Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC <http://www.pl.capgemini-sdm.com/en/>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > +1 for GitHub - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one > or two people and not as clear way in to contribute. > > > GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras > organization there should be straight forward. [snip] I just took the 2 seconds to do this, to reserve the name. If anybody's interested, I'll transfer it.
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
+1 for GitHub - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one or two people and not as clear way in to contribute. GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras organization there should be straight forward. As for binaries - I found it very useful to use BinTray for Beanshell - as I could do both Maven and regular downloads: https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/beanshell/wiki/Download On 12 March 2015 at 21:49, Christopher wrote: > I don't know the reasons for choosing SF, but I'd highly recommend > putting serious consideration into GitHub. It's quite pleasant to work > with, and although I'm not a part of the apache-extras, I think those > who are would be quite satisfied with it (that's just my personal > opinion, of course). > > -- > Christopher L Tubbs II > http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:37 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev >> decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've >> done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. >> >> --David >> >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) >> wrote: >>> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks >>> have shown interest ;-) >>> >>> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] >>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM >>> To: dev@community.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>> >>> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) >>> >>> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the >>> impression you were actively part of a group driving this. >>> >>> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Uli >>> >>> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>> Moving board@ to BCC >>>> >>>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it >>>> wasn't me!) >>>> >>>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't >>>> know how actively but it is now a priority. >>>> >>>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his >>>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his >>>> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. >>>> >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>> Corporation >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk >>>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, >>>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>>> >>>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >>>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >>>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, >>>> no news since then. >>>> >>>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Uli >>>> >>>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, >>>>> 2016. >>>>> >>>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >>>>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >>>>> quarter. >>>>> >>>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >>>>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >>>>> (I'm not sure of the current status). >>>>> >>>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>>>> provided by external companies) >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>>> Corporation >>>>> >>>>> -- Stian Soiland-Reyes Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating) http://orcid.org/-0001-9842-9718
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Gotcha. Let me read it :) > On Mar 12, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: > > Discussion on ComDev has cleared up the confusion. Jim, you and I are on > point. There's a mail in your inbox and we will report through ComDev. > > Ross > > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:50 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Cc: Apache Board > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > Yes, Roberto offered to have SF host an Apache Neighborhood (??) for us, to > replace Apache-Extras. I put he and David in touch, since David was best to > know what exactly we needed and what the division of labor should be. > > If David lacks the time to follow-up, I very much volunteer to take this up > again. > >> On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: >> >> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no >> news since then. >> >> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Uli >> >> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >>> >>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >>> quarter. >>> >>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >>> (I'm not sure of the current status). >>> >>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>> provided by external companies) >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>> Corporation >>> >>> >
RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Discussion on ComDev has cleared up the confusion. Jim, you and I are on point. There's a mail in your inbox and we will report through ComDev. Ross -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:50 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: Apache Board Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 Yes, Roberto offered to have SF host an Apache Neighborhood (??) for us, to replace Apache-Extras. I put he and David in touch, since David was best to know what exactly we needed and what the division of labor should be. If David lacks the time to follow-up, I very much volunteer to take this up again. > On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > > We reported about apache extras in September and November and both > times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on > it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no > news since then. > > Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >> >> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >> quarter. >> >> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >> (I'm not sure of the current status). >> >> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >> provided by external companies) >> >> Ross >> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >> Corporation >> >>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Yes, Roberto offered to have SF host an Apache Neighborhood (??) for us, to replace Apache-Extras. I put he and David in touch, since David was best to know what exactly we needed and what the division of labor should be. If David lacks the time to follow-up, I very much volunteer to take this up again. > On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > > We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we > were told that Jim, > Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked > for feedback on a proof > of concept, no news since then. > > Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >> >> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure >> that progress on this >> is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. >> >> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >> SourceForge, they have offered >> neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been exploring >> options for download >> provision already (I'm not sure of the current status). >> >> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by >> external companies) >> >> Ross >> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation >> >>
RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Right, thanks David, I'm not sure where this confusion came from but it is cleared up now. Let me ping Jim and Roberto offlist and we'll have something concrete to get to Uli in the next report. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:16 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 Infra doesn't use extras, or even administer it, so it seems strange for us to have a stake in decision making. We are happy to help facilitate the move (and hence our involvement thus far). On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it > to be ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective. > > Ross > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- > From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us ] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:37 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev > decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've > done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. > > --David > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < > ross.gard...@microsoft.com > wrote: > > Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these > > folks have shown interest ;-) > > > > I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. > > > > Ross > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ] > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM > > To: dev@community.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > > > *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) > > > > You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under > > the > impression you were actively part of a group driving this. > > > > Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Uli > > > > On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >> Moving board@ to BCC > >> > >> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope > >> it wasn't me!) > >> > >> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I > >> don't know how actively but it is now a priority. > >> > >> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his > >> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing > >> his > infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. > >> > >> Ross > >> > >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > >> Corporation > >> > >> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk > >> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ] Sent: Thursday, March 12, > >> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: > bo...@apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > >> > >> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both > >> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working > >> on it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of > concept, no news since then. > >> > >> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Uli > >> > >> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan > >>> 25, > 2016. > >>> > >>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please > >>> make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board > >>> report > each quarter. > >>> > >>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with > >>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, > >>> with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download > >>> provision > already (I'm not sure of the current status). > >>> > >>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services > >>> provided by external companies) > >>> > >>> Ross > >>> > >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > >>> Corporation > >>> > >>> >
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On 12 March 2015 at 23:08, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects > apache-extras. As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very > long time - has that changed? > No it has not changed, but maybe I did not use the right words. Our primary binaries (the executable) for "real" endusers are downloaded from SF, but we have plenty of stuff on apache_extra (ooo extras) which can be and are downloaded. Currently most of ooo_extras are targeted at developers and not end-users, and especially that part of our community is something we do not want to hurt. rgds jan i. > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:06 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > On 12 March 2015 at 22:55, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > > On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote: > > > >> I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several > >> projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also > >> involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have > >> gone quiet for about 2 months. There was a second prototype that > >> looked pretty good (to us). But, I don't know the state of things now. > >> > > > > It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We > > are now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ > > in the OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to > > storage of some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github > won't allow that). > > > > http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the > > latest proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest > > all times the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just > > moved on and started using the SourceForge space. > > > > I support Andrea strongly here, AOO need a decision on this, apache_extras > is an essential part of our downloads, and not just "extras". > > Personally I think the SF solution is what we as ASF need, unless Infra > prefer to host it on our own hardware, and do not have a problem with the > download bandwidth. > > Can I please politely ask the people, who says (or others say) they are > working on this theme, to come to a decision. This seems to be a matter > where a single person could make the decision but we still continue > discussing. > > > > > > Regards, > > Andrea. > > >
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Infra doesn't use extras, or even administer it, so it seems strange for us to have a stake in decision making. We are happy to help facilitate the move (and hence our involvement thus far). On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it to be > ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective. > > Ross > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- > From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us ] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:37 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev > decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've done > here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. > > --David > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < > ross.gard...@microsoft.com > wrote: > > Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these > > folks have shown interest ;-) > > > > I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. > > > > Ross > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ] > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM > > To: dev@community.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > > > *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) > > > > You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the > impression you were actively part of a group driving this. > > > > Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Uli > > > > On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >> Moving board@ to BCC > >> > >> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it > >> wasn't me!) > >> > >> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't > >> know how actively but it is now a priority. > >> > >> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his > >> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his > infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. > >> > >> Ross > >> > >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > >> Corporation > >> > >> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk > >> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ] Sent: Thursday, March 12, > >> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: > bo...@apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > >> > >> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both > >> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on > >> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of > concept, no news since then. > >> > >> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Uli > >> > >> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, > 2016. > >>> > >>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please > >>> make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report > each quarter. > >>> > >>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with > >>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, > >>> with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision > already (I'm not sure of the current status). > >>> > >>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services > >>> provided by external companies) > >>> > >>> Ross > >>> > >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > >>> Corporation > >>> > >>> >
RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects apache-extras. As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very long time - has that changed? Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:06 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 On 12 March 2015 at 22:55, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote: > >> I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several >> projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also >> involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have >> gone quiet for about 2 months. There was a second prototype that >> looked pretty good (to us). But, I don't know the state of things now. >> > > It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We > are now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ > in the OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to > storage of some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github won't > allow that). > > http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the > latest proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest > all times the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just > moved on and started using the SourceForge space. > I support Andrea strongly here, AOO need a decision on this, apache_extras is an essential part of our downloads, and not just "extras". Personally I think the SF solution is what we as ASF need, unless Infra prefer to host it on our own hardware, and do not have a problem with the download bandwidth. Can I please politely ask the people, who says (or others say) they are working on this theme, to come to a decision. This seems to be a matter where a single person could make the decision but we still continue discussing. > > Regards, > Andrea. >
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On 12 March 2015 at 22:55, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote: > >> I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several >> projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also >> involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have gone >> quiet for about 2 months. There was a second prototype that looked >> pretty good (to us). But, I don't know the state of things now. >> > > It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We are > now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ in the > OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to storage of > some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github won't allow that). > > http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the latest > proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest all times > the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just moved on and > started using the SourceForge space. > I support Andrea strongly here, AOO need a decision on this, apache_extras is an essential part of our downloads, and not just "extras". Personally I think the SF solution is what we as ASF need, unless Infra prefer to host it on our own hardware, and do not have a problem with the download bandwidth. Can I please politely ask the people, who says (or others say) they are working on this theme, to come to a decision. This seems to be a matter where a single person could make the decision but we still continue discussing. > > Regards, > Andrea. >
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote: I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have gone quiet for about 2 months. There was a second prototype that looked pretty good (to us). But, I don't know the state of things now. It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We are now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ in the OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to storage of some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github won't allow that). http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the latest proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest all times the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just moved on and started using the SourceForge space. Regards, Andrea.
RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it to be ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:37 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. --David On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these > folks have shown interest ;-) > > I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. > > Ross > > -Original Message- > From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) > > You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the > impression you were actively part of a group driving this. > > Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Moving board@ to BCC >> >> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it >> wasn't me!) >> >> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't >> know how actively but it is now a priority. >> >> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his >> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra >> hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. >> >> Ross >> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >> Corporation >> >> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk >> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, >> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >> >> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no >> news since then. >> >> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Uli >> >> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >>> >>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please >>> make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >>> quarter. >>> >>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, >>> with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision >>> already (I'm not sure of the current status). >>> >>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>> provided by external companies) >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>> Corporation >>> >>>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
I don't know the reasons for choosing SF, but I'd highly recommend putting serious consideration into GitHub. It's quite pleasant to work with, and although I'm not a part of the apache-extras, I think those who are would be quite satisfied with it (that's just my personal opinion, of course). -- Christopher L Tubbs II http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:37 PM, David Nalley wrote: > It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev > decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've > done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. > > --David > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: >> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks >> have shown interest ;-) >> >> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. >> >> Ross >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM >> To: dev@community.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >> >> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) >> >> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the >> impression you were actively part of a group driving this. >> >> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Uli >> >> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>> Moving board@ to BCC >>> >>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it >>> wasn't me!) >>> >>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't >>> know how actively but it is now a priority. >>> >>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his >>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his >>> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>> Corporation >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk >>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, >>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >>> >>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no >>> news since then. >>> >>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Uli >>> >>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >>>> >>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >>>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >>>> quarter. >>>> >>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >>>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >>>> (I'm not sure of the current status). >>>> >>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>>> provided by external companies) >>>> >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>>> Corporation >>>> >>>>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. --David On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have > shown interest ;-) > > I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. > > Ross > > -Original Message- > From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) > > You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the > impression you were actively part of a group driving this. > > Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Moving board@ to BCC >> >> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it >> wasn't me!) >> >> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't >> know how actively but it is now a priority. >> >> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his >> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra >> hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. >> >> Ross >> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >> Corporation >> >> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk >> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, >> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 >> >> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both >> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on >> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no >> news since then. >> >> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Uli >> >> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >>> >>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >>> quarter. >>> >>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >>> (I'm not sure of the current status). >>> >>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >>> provided by external companies) >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >>> Corporation >>> >>>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have gone quiet for about 2 months. There was a second prototype that looked pretty good (to us). But, I don't know the state of things now. ~Roger Whitcomb VP Apache Pivot On 3/12/15 1:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have shown interest ;-) I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. Ross -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the impression you were actively part of a group driving this. Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Moving board@ to BCC I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't me!) All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how actively but it is now a priority. I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no news since then. Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already (I'm not sure of the current status). (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by external companies) Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have shown interest ;-) I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. Ross -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the impression you were actively part of a group driving this. Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Moving board@ to BCC > > I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it > wasn't me!) > > All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't > know how actively but it is now a priority. > > I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his > agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra > hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. > > Ross > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > Corporation > > -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk > [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, > 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 > > We reported about apache extras in September and November and both > times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on > it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no > news since then. > > Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >> >> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make >> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each >> quarter. >> >> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with >> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already >> (I'm not sure of the current status). >> >> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services >> provided by external companies) >> >> Ross >> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft >> Corporation >> >>
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
*Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the impression you were actively part of a group driving this. Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Moving board@ to BCC > > I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't > me!) > > All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how > actively but it is > now a priority. > > I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his agreement) you > can look to him for > those updates. David is wearing his infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. > > Ross > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, > 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org Subject: Re: > Google Code shutting > down Jan 2016 > > We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we > were told that Jim, > Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked > for feedback on a > proof of concept, no news since then. > > Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? > > Cheers, > > Uli > > On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. >> >> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure >> that progress on >> this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. >> >> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with >> SourceForge, they have >> offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been >> exploring options for >> download provision already (I'm not sure of the current status). >> >> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by >> external companies) >> >> Ross >> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation >> >>
RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Moving board@ to BCC I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't me!) All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how actively but it is now a priority. I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016 We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no news since then. Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. > > We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make > sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each > quarter. > > I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with > SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with > his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already (I'm > not sure of the current status). > > (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided > by external companies) > > Ross > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft > Corporation > >
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no news since then. Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. > > We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure > that progress on this > is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. > > I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with > SourceForge, they have offered > neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been exploring > options for download > provision already (I'm not sure of the current status). > > (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by > external companies) > > Ross > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > >
Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already (I'm not sure of the current status). (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by external companies) Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
