Re: ping on mod_dns

2008-02-18 Thread Erik Abele

On 18.02.2008, at 20:03, Roy T. Fielding wrote:


On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Issac Goldstand wrote:

Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking  
at it

again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to  
work in

my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?

AFAIK, we finished with the red tape already (please tell me off- 
list if

I'm wrong)


Actually, I'd rather do that on-list so that more people know what is
required.  We already had the proposal and enough +1 votes to add
mod_dns as a subproject.

  http://markmail.org/message/juhrpyxq635mhy6n

The next question is about the intellectual property.
...


See also the thread 'Issac Goldstand / mod_dns' on board@ for some  
info re paper-work (02/10/2008)...


Cheers,
Erik


Re: board report due tomorrow

2008-02-18 Thread Erik Abele

On 18.02.2008, at 21:09, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:


On Feb 18, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:


On Feb 18, 2008, at 4:32 AM, Issac Goldstand wrote:

Nick Kew wrote:

On 18 Feb 2008, at 08:29, Issac Goldstand wrote:


I think we also adopted mod_dns at Apachecon,
That'll be *cough* _provisionally_ adopted.  Decisions are made  
on-list.

Remind me where to find the thread.


I hope this link works, as I haven't used Markmail's new UI very  
much yet:
http://httpd.markmail.org/search/?q=mod_dns#query:mod_dns+page:1 
+mid:juhrpyxq635mhy6n+state:results


Ah, the problem with having a proposal that lots of people +1 and  
nobody
concludes with a okay, it's approved, now here's what we do next  
message


I've started to dive into that - and am quite prepared to wack it  
into shape. However I've only found iCLA's and cCLA's sofar - and  
am waiting for Jonathan to let me know if there is a software grant  
for mod_dns itself.


It's recorded in grants.txt for Mod_dns - though I couldn't find a  
scan for it.


Cheers,
Erik



Re: DisableReuse for mod_proxy

2008-02-13 Thread Erik Abele

On 13.02.2008, at 16:27, Jim Jagielski wrote:


I added something similar to mod_jk quite awhile ago, and
I'm trying to get mod_jk and mod_proxy closer to parity,
esp for those using AJP. So with that in mind, comments
on the below??

Index: docs/manual/mod/mod_proxy.xml
===
--- docs/manual/mod/mod_proxy.xml   (revision 627440)
+++ docs/manual/mod/mod_proxy.xml   (working copy)
@@ -693,6 +693,16 @@
 in the pool the Apache will return codeSERVER_BUSY/code  
status to

 the client.
 /td/tr
+trtddisablereuse/td
+tdOff/td
+tdThis parameter should be used when you want to force  
mod_proxy
+to immediately close a connection to the backend after being  
used, and
+thus, disable its persistant connection and pool for that  
backend.


persistent instead of persistant?

+1 to the rest.

Cheers,
Erik



Re: What am I doing wrong - site gen?

2008-02-12 Thread Erik Abele

On 24.01.2008, at 00:53, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


security/vulnerabilities-oval.xml

I'm ending up with deltas such as these...

-httpd_state xmlns=http://oval.mitre.org/XMLSchema/oval- 
definitions-5#apache id=oval:org.apache.httpd:ste:131  
version=1 comment=the version of httpd is 1.3.1

-version operation=equals datatype=version1.3.1/version
+httpd_state xmlns=http://oval.mitre.org/XMLSchema/oval- 
definitions-5 id=oval:org.apache.httpd:ste:131 version=1  
comment=the version of httpd is 1.3.1
+version xmlns=http://oval.mitre.org/XMLSchema/oval- 
definitions-5#apache operation=equals datatype=version1.3.1/ 
version

 /httpd_state

What component are we missing in site/lib/ or should I have locally
updated?


I guess you were running Ant directly instead of via build.sh, right?

If so then it was probably overriding the jars in site/lib and was  
therefore using a different version of the xslt processor... To get  
consistent results we need to rely on the jars in site/lib and only  
running via build.sh ensures that those are picked up :-/


Can you please try and let me know? I'll then update README if that  
fixes the issue...


Oh, and if you can't run build.sh on Win* (e.g. no cygwin) then we'll  
need to add a .bat version for it... (for an example see docs-build/ 
trunk/build.bat).


Cheers,
Erik



Re: ping on mod_dns

2008-02-10 Thread Erik Abele

On 10.02.2008, at 14:16, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:


On Feb 10, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Issac Goldstand wrote:

Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking  
at it

again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to  
work in

my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?


I'd be quite interested to see this go in as 'experimental' or  
similar.


Same here, I'd be interested in that as well - of course for now only  
as experimental.


Cheers,
Erik



Re: PATCH -- make the cache modules part of 'all'.

2008-02-08 Thread Erik Abele

On 08.02.2008, at 23:57, Ruediger Pluem wrote:


On 02/08/2008 07:58 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

Jim Jagielski wrote:


On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Nick Kew wrote:


On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:07:40 +0100
Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Given that mod_cache is now quite mature - perhaps time to make it
part of the 'all' setting
in ./configure (and we could argue same for ssl and ldap). And  
hence

make it part of the
general body distributed by the vendors (who seem to follow our
all config).


That begs the question, what do we mean by all?  It currently
excludes proxy and dav, as well as the modules you mention.
That's IMHO rather more confusing than it should be.


+1 :)


+1 - there's only two classes of exceptions IMHO - those would be  
SSL,
and pure test modules.  And I'm +/-0 on including those test  
modules in

'all' (but never in 'most').

My personal preference is that ANY production module, except for  
SSL, is
automatically grabbed up with all.  So proxy and dav are  
mistakes IMHO.


+1 to this, but keep the test modules out of 'all'.


+1, please no debug/test modules in 'all'.

Cheers,
Erik



Re: [Fwd: website]

2008-01-08 Thread Erik Abele

On 08.01.2008, at 17:52, Sander Temme wrote:


On Jan 8, 2008, at 5:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not acked, maybe already forwarded.


What the  are we supposed to do with an e-mail written:


Date: April 17, 2004 10:21:24 PM PDT


??!

Chris has probably graduated a long time ago and moved back into  
his mom's basement.


It's really annoying that no contact email is listed for  
apache.org or
httpd.apache.org. However, my main complaint is that you don't  
list the
date that news items are posted, which is of critical importance  
and it's
absurd that it's impossible to find out from your site when a  
particular

version of apache was released.


Fwiw, the news items on httpd.a.o also have a date now (since around  
Sep/Oct of last year) so...


Cheers,
Erik


Re: As we contemplate what to fix, and how to roll out 2.4 and 3.0

2007-10-03 Thread Erik Abele

On 02.10.2007, at 20:52, Paul Querna wrote:


So, the first step is to cut out any illusion that new features are
going into 1.3, with a statement like this:

Starting in January 2008, only critical security issues will be  
fixed in

Apache HTTP Server versions 1.3.x or 2.0.x.

I honestly believe we will be somewhat responsible for fixing any  
major

security issues in 1.3 and 2.0 for the next 5-10 years, unless Waka
suddenly explodes and replaces http :-)

Thoughts?


I really like that, but as Bill showed nicely (I love the last  
paragraph!) I think we should couple that with some PR...


Cheers,
Erik


Re: Adding timestamp to apache releases?

2007-10-02 Thread Erik Abele

On 01.10.2007, at 12:22, Erik Abele wrote:


On 01.10.2007, at 09:58, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

...
I like the idea of adding a date to each news item, be it on  
httpd.a.o,

or our www.apache.org.  +1.


+1, see attached patch which adds dates to the index and download  
pages (see changes to site.vsl which add a 2nd column to the  
relevant section headers as soon as a new date= attribute is  
present).


Please test and give your opinion, works for me on Safari and  
Firefox...


Got a chance to test it on IE today, looks fine so I've added it at  
the moment.


Cheers,
Erik


Re: Adding timestamp to apache releases?

2007-10-01 Thread Erik Abele

On 01.10.2007, at 09:58, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Boyle Owen wrote:


Might it be an idea for 2.2.7?


You can also get it from here for now:
http://projects.apache.org/projects/http_server.html

or as a feed:
http://projects.apache.org/feeds/rss/http_server.xml

I like the idea of adding a date to each news item, be it on  
httpd.a.o,

or our www.apache.org.  +1.


+1, see attached patch which adds dates to the index and download  
pages (see changes to site.vsl which add a 2nd column to the relevant  
section headers as soon as a new date= attribute is present).


Please test and give your opinion, works for me on Safari and Firefox...

Cheers,
Erik



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Re: 2.2.7

2007-09-27 Thread Erik Abele

On 27.09.2007, at 10:05, François wrote:


2007/9/27, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[...] Here at [EMAIL PROTECTED] we are trying to create a better server,  
and having
fun in the process.  As long as we don't splinter the effort of  
improving
httpd server or make more work for the project members, we'll all  
have fun

at it.  I'm not picking on you, let's solve the issues.

Bill


...
And the we, for fun against you, for profit argument is well  
demonstrated by a more recent mail of Nick Kew:

Some apache developers, including myself[1], make a living doing
contract work for companies with development needs, such as yours.
If you have a budget, I'll be happy to talk to you.  The fact you're
looking to make it available as open source will qualify you for
a reduction in my standard rate.

(And you talk about spam regarding apachelounge, please...)

Thus, Apache commiters or developers are developping for fun  
(sometimes for fame) AND profit. ...


Sure, we all have to pay our bills but you're overlooking a  
difference: Nick just replied to an inquiry offering his (and others  
services); he doesn't advertise any revenue-generating site after  
every release etc. etc... ;-0


Again, Steffens contributions would be very welcomed *here* if this  
whole AL thing were just not that misleading - hey, with some effort  
he could e.g. help out constructively by building these binaries in a  
transparent and documented way *here* and we could even distribute  
them from apache.org/dist (plus mirrors) to help the win community  
even more!


Just my 2c...

Cheers,
Erik

Re: 2.2.7

2007-09-27 Thread Erik Abele

On 27.09.2007, at 17:04, François wrote:


2007/9/27, Erik Abele  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Again, Steffens contributions would be very welcomed *here* if this
 whole AL thing were just not that misleading - hey, with some effort
 he could e.g. help out constructively by building these binaries  
in a

 transparent and documented way *here* and we could even distribute
 them from apache.org/dist (plus mirrors) to help the win community
 even more!

Then, create a svn access to apache lounge people that patch httpd


As Jim and Ruediger already pointed out, that's not how the ASF  
works. You'll have to earn the merit - it's a trust thing ;)



and stop to flame/troll/point at these guys.


Oh, there's no flaming involved AFAICS; don't confuse constructive  
criticism with unsubstantial insults... but you're right, we should  
probably simply ignore it, don't feed the trolls etc...


Cheers,
Erik

Re: 2.2.7

2007-09-27 Thread Erik Abele

On 28.09.2007, at 01:28, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Erik Abele wrote:


Sure, we all have to pay our bills but you're overlooking a  
difference:
Nick just replied to an inquiry offering his (and others  
services); he
doesn't advertise any revenue-generating site after every release  
etc.

etc... ;-0


Nick's comment didn't even mention he does this exclusively, he  
pointed
out that there are a number of devs or organizations who can  
provide such
services, and was *probably* letting the user know that the scope  
of their

troubles was not going to elicit them enough purely voulenteer help.


Exactly!


Again, Steffens contributions would be very welcomed *here* if this
whole AL thing were just not that misleading - hey, with some  
effort he

could e.g. help out constructively by building these binaries in a
transparent and documented way *here* and we could even distribute  
them
from apache.org/dist (plus mirrors) to help the win community even  
more!


I want to be sure folks understand that the relabeling that Steffan  
and

the AL team have already done went a long way to satisfying almost any
of the project's possible concerns; the Feather is gone,  
disclaimers are

posted.  W.r.t. actually creating or distributing RC's, Colm's points
went a long way to convince me they can be helpful --- that is if  
and only
if the feedback gets back to where it might be useful to improving  
the s/w.


Absolutely.


Also note we only post binaries from committers; we can't/won't elicit
or host them for add'l third parties.  So for example, any committer
is welcome to post updated sun .pkg's.  But we wouldn't accept those
from Sun.  The origin of all of the files under
   http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/
is from an Apache httpd project committer, each of whom is bound to  
a CLA

(to resolve any possible IP/trust issues.)


Yep, maybe my post was misleading; with some effort I actually  
meant becoming a committer... :)


Cheers,
Erik


Re: An enterprise-ish request (ie, basically SNMP)

2007-09-13 Thread Erik Abele

On 11.09.2007, at 19:26, Jim Jagielski wrote:


On Sep 11, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Jeff McAdams wrote:

For the benefit of the list...if there are other developers, in  
addition
to Nick, that might be interested in taking a look at this project  
and

tackling it, let me know and we can certainly talk.


I actually work for a company which is currently working
out the logistics of open sourcing and donating our
SNMP module. It would serve as a nice base to start
from.


Nice! I'd be happy to involve myself here too and provide patches,  
docs and also test the stuff; don't have the time (or interest) to  
start something from scratch though...


Cheers,
Erik



Re: An enterprise-ish request (ie, basically SNMP)

2007-09-13 Thread Erik Abele

On 13.09.2007, at 18:27, Jim Jagielski wrote:


On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Erik Abele wrote:


On 11.09.2007, at 19:26, Jim Jagielski wrote:


...
I actually work for a company which is currently working
out the logistics of open sourcing and donating our
SNMP module. It would serve as a nice base to start
from.


Nice! I'd be happy to involve myself here too and provide patches,  
docs and also test the stuff; don't have the time (or interest) to  
start something from scratch though...


Our pref, of course, would be to follow what we did with
mod_ftp and donate it to the ASF and the httpd project.


Sure, makes sense to follow that example and start in the Incubator;  
happy to give my +1 then and join the PPMC etc...



We're in the process of cleaning up all the legal aspects
and some code cleanups before we ping the PMC about it... ;)


Cool :)

Cheers,
Erik



Re: [VOTE] Apache 2.2.6, 2.0.61 and 1.3.39 release candidate tarballs for review

2007-09-04 Thread Erik Abele

On 04.09.2007, at 23:29, Jim Jagielski wrote:


Available for your testing pleasure, 3, count 'em, 3
Apache HTTP Server release candidate tarballs, located,
as expected at:

http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/

This vote will run through Sept 6, 2007 and close
Sept 7, unless otherwise noted...

  +/-1   (x == +1)

  [  ]apache_1.3.39


Well, probably not a real blocker but the tarball (and therefore all  
compressed archives: Z, bz2, gz) for 1.3.39 expands to apache-1.3  
instead of apache_1.3.39 as the name might suggest - this didn't  
happen for any other release yet and might overwrite something else  
(which just happened for me).


Also the NOTICE file in there still says 2006 :(

Cheers,
Erik



Re: svn commit: r571928 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2007-09-02 Thread Erik Abele


On 02.09.2007, at 17:06, Tim Bray wrote:


On Sep 2, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Graham Leggett wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is nbsp; valid in XML?


The answer is complicated.  One approach is to use #xA0; which is  
kinda ugly but works in lots more places. -T


Yep, quite complicated - it has to do with Mozilla not loading  
external entities, etc. It's a long-known bug (since ~2000, see bugs  
#22942, #69799, #255747 and several others in Mozilla's Bugzilla);  
there are several work-arounds like using only internal entity defs,  
using #xA0 and co or even populating Mozilla's bin/res/dtd  
directory but not one of them is really practical so we decided to  
just live with it... :(


Cheers,
Erik


Re: Guess what? Time for 1.3.39, 2.0.61 and 2.2.6 :)

2007-08-31 Thread Erik Abele

On 30.08.2007, at 15:02, Jim Jagielski wrote:


Yes, the CHANGES file will be updated to reflect any
and all security issues for that release...


And can someone please also update the NOTICE file to carry the new  
copyright date? We are near to the end of 2007 and the file still  
says 2006; seems it wasn't touched since we changed all the license  
headers in July of last year ;-)


Cheers,
Erik


Re: Bug report for Apache httpd-2 [2007/07/01]

2007-07-02 Thread Erik Abele

On 02.07.2007, at 22:48, Guenter Knauf wrote:

probably it helps a little bit to reduce these 888 bugs if we can  
easier read...

http://www.gknw.net/apbugs/
http://www.gknw.net/apbugs/?version=13


Or see

http://people.apache.org/~erikabele/httpd/bugstats/

for some more motivation :-)

Cheers,
Erik



Re: Bug report for Apache httpd-2 [2007/07/01]

2007-07-02 Thread Erik Abele

On 03.07.2007, at 01:44, Guenter Knauf wrote:


Hi Erik,


http://people.apache.org/~erikabele/httpd/bugstats/
looks very great; but seems that only the 1.3.x stats are uptodate  
- the 2.x stats unfortunately stop at 2005/11/27 ...


Ooops, right, something seems to be broken, will have a look.


for some more motivation :-)

hmm, but one person alone cant do anything;
if someone picks up a bug and tries to solve it some feedback of  
others is required...


Sure, didn't imply anything :)

so we would need some common agreement that we make a bugfix round  
and concentrate on that for a while; and if one asks for feedback  
on a solution that feedback is given until there's a solution to  
the issue.


Yep though that's not always possible with volunteer-based  
development; anyway, I'd assume that if one person starts to give  
some bugs some more visibility e.g. by posting them to the dev list,  
then the comments will come... otoh there are quite some people very  
active on bugzilla so it's not that nothing is happening over there :)



BTW. the monthly bug reports are not online somewhere available, or?


They're in the mailing list archives, but not published separately  
afaik.



How do you collect the data?


No magic involved, see http://people.apache.org/~erikabele/httpd/ 
bugstats/genstats


Cheers,
Erik



Re: [Vote] create [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-09-03 Thread Erik Abele

On 01.09.2006, at 21:25, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Project Committee Members...

Adopt [EMAIL PROTECTED], seeded from apache- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer  
support?

(API 'users', essentially.)

  [X]  +1
  [ ]  +/-0
  [ ]  -1


With a -1 on automatically moving subscribers - either please send  
clear instructions on how to move oneself or perhaps, as Nick  
suggested, make it an opt-out process with at least two reminders  
(though that might be harder to manage/track/... and not really worth  
it?).


Cheers,
Erik



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Re: doap file

2006-01-23 Thread Erik Abele
[CC'ing docs to also let them know that there's something to  
maintain ;-)]


On 23.01.2006, at 10:43, David Reid wrote:

I've committed a DOAP file into the trunk repo. This file is  
referenced
by http://projects.apache.org and so we should be keeping it up to  
date.

 That site also has details on what it all means and the data that it
should contain.


Since this is not trunk-specific and doesn't really belong to the  
source and/or release of a specific version, I'd prefer to keep this  
file somewhere in [1] instead of [2]... that may sound a bit picky  
but it's a bit cleaner IMHO (accessible via HTTP w/o SVN backend,  
repo permissions: docs people can access /site/trunk which might not  
be always true for httpd/trunk, 'nicer' URL for outside usage, etc.)...


Comments?

Cheers,
Erik

[1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/site/trunk/docs/
[2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/



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Re: doap file

2006-01-23 Thread Erik Abele

On 23.01.2006, at 23:13, David Reid wrote:


Erik Abele wrote:

Since this is not trunk-specific and doesn't really belong to the
source and/or release of a specific version, I'd prefer to keep this
file somewhere in [1] instead of [2]... that may sound a bit  
picky  but

it's a bit cleaner IMHO (accessible via HTTP w/o SVN backend,  repo
permissions: docs people can access /site/trunk which might not  be
always true for httpd/trunk, 'nicer' URL for outside usage, etc.)...

Comments?


The only reason for keeping it under trunk was that having it there  
it's

available to people doing releases. Putting it under site means that
those wishing to do a thorough review means they have to have 2 repos
checked out. *shrug*


Yep, they will need it anyways for the site changes (download.xml,  
index.xml) and furthermore you need a third checkout for the  
announcement: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/dist/ ;-)



I don't really care and so will move it.


Already done, I just moved it over to http://httpd.apache.org/ 
doap.rdf while I finally removed the AC05 blurbs :)


Cheers,
Erik



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Re: mod_mbox 0.2 goes alpha

2005-12-20 Thread Erik Abele

On 20.12.2005, at 23:45, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Maxime Petazzoni wrote:

I was going to do that when I was told on #httpd-dev that it was
easier to drop it in my people.apache.org web space :
16:45:08 colmmacc | well, that gets mirrored, I'd use  
people.apache.org/~whatever/

16:45:17 colmmacc | that's what the cool kids have used lately ;-)


httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ is mirrored?  Even if it is, just don't  
worry
about that.  Our convention is that anything in dev/dist/ is  
nothing but

a candidate, not a proper release.


Just for the record: no, httpd.apache.org/dev/dist (minotaur:/www/ 
www.apache.org/dev/dist) is not mirrored - only www.apache.org/dist  
(minotaur:/www/www.apache.org/dist) is mirrored.


Cheers,
Erik

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Re: RFC: UserDir off by default for 2.1/2.2

2005-03-31 Thread Erik Abele
On 31.03.2005, at 18:54, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
IMO, it should be off by default on all httpd versions, just
as the config should default to no access.  Personally, I would
prefer that all of the defaults be set internal to the server
such that a running httpd with an empty status file would only
I presume you meant *config* instead of *status* file?
be capable of responding successfully to / with a simple
You need to configure the server now.  Everything else should
be a 403 or 404 until it is explicitly configured.
Not that I'd volunteer to implement that but I really like the approach.
+1 on patch.
Same here, +1.
Cheers,
Erik

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Re: Forthcoming 2.2 - Win32 specific questions

2005-03-30 Thread Erik Abele
On 29.03.2005, at 23:42, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
'Apache' was our program.  It became our project.  It's become
our entire organization.
In 2.2, I -will- be changing the default location for the Win32
installer from %programsdir%\Apache Group\Apache2\ over to
%programsdir%\Apache Software Foundation\Apache HTTP Server 2.2\.
This is consistent with the Tomcat group's installer changes.
They actually considered taking a step backwards and changing
their installer from 'Software Foundation' to 'Group'.  I assured
them we will be changing to better reflect today's organization.
As the unix binary is 'httpd', it seems time to change the Win32
binary to 'httpd.exe'.  It just seems to be a bit archaic to
continue to use 'Apache.exe' when you look at www.apache.org and
consider what the foundation's become.
So can I have a quick vote before beta to rename our program to
'httpd.exe' on Windows, matching our Unix builds?
+1 on both renames.
Cheers,
Erik

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Re: Authentication Needs for Apache: Was Re: Puzzling News

2005-03-01 Thread Erik Abele
On 01.03.2005, at 15:52, Sean Mehan wrote:
Just a pointer to something that is gaining a bit of ground in various  
circles:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/11511/sstc-saml- 
tech-overview-2.0-draft-03.pdf

found at
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=security
This is about SAML, a vocabulary for exchange of authentication and  
authorization data about users trying to access resources. With this  
capability built in, one can write policies for users originating from  
other sites.
The problem I see with SAML and it's specs is that RSA holds patents on  
it and although these patens are made available under a royalty-free  
license, every end-user must obtain their own licsense from RSA. That  
alone is a requirement which goes far beyond the requirements of the  
Apache License and furthermore there are some other constraints (e.g.  
licensees must grant RSA the same rights to any patents they own).

Find the details at  
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/ipr.php.

There is an implementation of this for what used to be called  
(resource) targets, now called SP [service provider]s, which compiles  
and runs under apache 1.3/2.0
found at http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/
Hmm, I think both, opensaml.org and shibboleth.internet2.edu are not  
conforming to RSA's license requirements:

The license terms for the RSA Patents will permit end-users to use the  
Licensed Products. However, in the event that a Licensed Product is a  
product (such as a toolkit product or operating system service) that is  
used to develop other products, the license will require the licensee  
of the RSA Patents to notify users of the Licensed Products that such  
users must obtain a license directly from RSA for the RSA Patents. RSA  
is willing to grant such licenses on the same non-exclusive,  
royalty-free terms described above.

I don't find any such notice on both pages, just their usual license  
which is misleading in this case, e.g.  
http://www.opensaml.org/license.html

IMHO we should avoid touching this sort of stuff...
Cheers,
Erik


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Re: Puzzling News

2005-03-01 Thread Erik Abele
On 01.03.2005, at 15:18, Graham Leggett wrote:
Paul A Houle said:
  I think of all the features that web site authors and developers
need that still don't exist in mainstream web servers;  part of this
is in the area of content management and another major are is
authentication -- pretty much any serious interactive web site needs
a cookie-based authentication system with the features seen on big
sites like amazon.com and yahoo!  and one of the reasons there is so
little code reuse on the web is that every application winds up
impementing it's own authentication system;  if there was something
really good built into a market-leading web server,  this picture
would change completely.
The trouble with the authentication problem is that the credentials 
used
for authentication are often used for way more than just finding out
whether a user has access. That said, this is definitely a very useful
addition.

Something like an auth module that can do form based auth, in 
addition
to basic and digest etc would probably be very useful.
Looks like someone is working on that:
http://csce.uark.edu/~ajarthu/mod_auth_form/
Cheers,
Erik

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Re: Proposal: R-T-C and packaging files

2005-01-25 Thread Erik Abele
William A. Rowe, Jr. said:
For a stable branch though - more often such changes should just
be -vetoed- instead of worked-around.  Packaging changes would
seem to signal breakage, not a reason for a workaround.

-1 not CTR.  Lazy consensus.  Propose, give 3 - 5 days (what
ever your schedule best provides) and then commit.  If folks
object they will speak up - if not - then you aren't hampered.
just my 2 cent: -0 on CTR for the stable branch, +1 on lazy consensus 
(for packaging changes).

Cheers,
Erik


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Re: svn commit: r124599 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/config5.m4

2005-01-25 Thread Erik Abele
On 23.01.2005, at 18:43, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 01:11:34AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Please describe what this actually does?
Are we back to libproxy.la, libssl.la after this change?
For static modules, yes.  This was modified in r102381 by Joe:
---
Correct use of libtool: libtool convenience libraries which are to be
linked directly into a program must be linked using -static and not
-module.  Fixes build issues with libtool HEAD.
---
Erik's change just catches up the manual modules to this change.  -- 
justin
Exactly, this just keeps --with-module consistent with the rest of the 
build system, in respect to the changes introduced by Joe. (Sorry, 
Bill, I somehow missed your original mail...)

Cheers,
Erik


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Re: svn commit: r124599 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/config5.m4

2005-01-25 Thread Erik Abele
On 25.01.2005, at 15:21, Joe Orton wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:09:06PM +0100, Erik Abele wrote:
Exactly, this just keeps --with-module consistent with the rest of the
build system, in respect to the changes introduced by Joe. (Sorry,
Bill, I somehow missed your original mail...)
Actually it doesn't, there was a subsequent change to use libmod_*.la
for statically-linked modules, since creating a libfoo.la which is
linked against a -lfoo confuses libtool.
Correct, I somehow missed r103164:
-  libname=lib$1.la
+  libname=libmod_$1.la
Will fix this ASAP...
On 2.0 statically-linked
modules still use filenames like mod_*.la, so it's not consistent 
with
that either ;)
Also correct and of course doesn't make sense without your changes. 
Will remove the backport vote.

I wasn't sure: what motivated your change, just consistency?  My 
changes
were made to fix issues using as-yet-unreleased versions of libtool.
While extending --with-module I experienced problems like 'The filename 
of a convenience library must have a lib prefix' when building 
modules on OS X with libtool-1.5.10, the solution was obviously the 
change from r102381...

Cheers,
Erik


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Re: Is there a limit to using with-module directive ???

2005-01-07 Thread Erik Abele
On 19.10.2004, at 04:03, Bennett, Tony - CNF wrote:
I have tried adding two different home-grown modules
to be statically linked when attempting to configure httpd 2.0.52 on 
AIX 5.1.

My configure command:
...
It only builds the module specified in the last --with-module 
directive.
 Is this a limitation with that directive ???

If so, how do I add two modules that are to be statically linked?
This should be working now with the current SVN trunk (2.1.x), see 
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi?root=Apache-SVNrev=124600view=rev

Just use 
--with-module=module-type1:module-file1,module-type2:module-file2 to 
add two or more external modules - you can find a description at 
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.1/programs/configure.html - would be 
nice to hear the results...

Cheers,
Erik


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Re: moving docs build tools to httpd

2004-11-25 Thread Erik Abele
On 24.11.2004, at 18:28, André Malo wrote:
* Yoshiki Hayashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After conversion is done, sending out instruction of how to
update existing checkout would be nice.  I believe you can
just svn switch to the new location but I'm not sure.
yep. just `svn switch new-url
Did you already mv them, nd? I couldn't find it right now but maybe I'm 
just too blind with all the new stuff. In any case +1 on mv'ing

/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/httpd-docs-build/
to
/httpd/docs-build/trunk
Cheers,
Erik


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cli-dev config, was Re: failure notice

2004-10-11 Thread Erik Abele
Until now message moderation was turned off - I've actived it now so  
this shouldn't happen again. Not sure why it wasn't actived  
initially... let me know if something doesn't work as expected...

The current moderators are:
wrowe at rowe-clan.net
sterling.hughes at gmail.com
ianh at apache.org
Cheers,
Erik
On 07.10.2004, at 19:18, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Can someone with the right apmail karma ensure we don't discard
such commit messages?  I forwarded all to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so the record is straight.
Bill
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Author: wrowe
Date: Thu Oct  7 07:34:55 2004
New Revision: 53980
Modified:
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Log:
 Axe a stale envvar - it's simply APACHE_PATH
Modified: incubator/httpd/cli/trunk/mod_aspdotnet/README
== 

--- incubator/httpd/cli/trunk/mod_aspdotnet/README  (original)
+++ incubator/httpd/cli/trunk/mod_aspdotnet/README  Thu Oct  7  
07:34:55 2004
@@ -31,6 +31,20 @@
dll's in the Serverroot/bin directory.

+Alternate Build Notes
+-
+
+You may build the module with the free Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit  
and
+the .NET Framework, instead of the full Developer Studio.  However,  
it's
+not possible to create the full installer with this method, and some
+registration by-hand is required.
+
+
+
+
+
+
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the Global Assembly Cache in order to instantiate it's host container.
The Debug build will do so automatically, copying mod_aspdotnet.so +  
.pdb
-into the $(APACHE_TMPINSTALL_WINNT)\modules directory, for testing.
-Apache.Web.dll + .pdb files are copied into  
$(APACHE_TMPINSTALL_WINNT)\bin
+into the $(APACHE_PATH)\modules directory, for testing.
+Apache.Web.dll + .pdb files are copied into $(APACHE_PATH)\bin
so that it can discover libapr.dll, libaprutil.dll and libhttpd.dll  
when
running in the System.Web.Hosting's AppDomain.  Apache.Web.dll is then
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Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Erik Abele
On 06.10.2004, at 18:07, Cliff Woolley wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, [ISO-8859-15] André Malo wrote:
- there are 1000 people with 1000 other opinions.
For that reason, I'm ++1 for taking this minimalistic variant. 
Otherwise we
get never a consensus about this darn dummy page.
That's an exceedingly good point.  Make it so.  :)
+1.
Same here, +1 - although... ;)
Cheers,
Erik


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FYI: bug statistics httpd-1.3/httpd-2.0

2004-08-29 Thread Erik Abele
I'm building some simple (but nice) statistics based on the
weekly bug reports mailed out to the dev- and bug-list:
http://www.apache.org/~erikabele/httpd/bugstats/
The stats are updated every sunday just after the reports
are mailed out. The script which produces the PNGs is also
available at the above URL.
Cheers,
Erik
... in the hope of prodding some bug hunters ;)


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Move httpd to the subversion repository

2004-03-14 Thread Erik Abele
On 13.03.2004, at 14:04, Sander Striker wrote:

Hi,

I hereby would like to propose that we move the HTTP Server project
codebase to the Subversion repository at:
  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/.
+1.

I've proposed the same on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list with respect to the APR
project.  It would be convenient, although not nessecary, if both
projects decided to move at the same time.
+1.

Cheers,
Erik


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Re: page out of date

2004-01-27 Thread Erik Abele
On 26.01.2004, at 18:32, Aryeh Katz wrote:

http://apache.get-software.com/httpd/binaries/win32/README.html
doesn't have the correct version numbers.
Fixed (also in HEADER.html).

As an aside, would it make more sense to use SSI, and get the version 
number from the SERVER_SOFTWARE environment variable (I assume 
apache.org will always be running the most up to date version of 
apache).
Perhaps on apache.org this would be doable but keep in mind that we 
don't have any control over the mirrors (see your URL above!). 
Furthermore there's usually only one version of Apache running, 1.3 or 
2.0, so how would we get to the other version number?

Cheers,
Erik
--
Aryeh Katz
SecureD Services
http://www.secured-services.com/
410 653 0700 x 2


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Re: Re-assigning bugs, was Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26149]...

2004-01-17 Thread Erik Abele
On 16.01.2004, at 10:30, Joe Orton wrote:

On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 12:45:01AM +0100, Erik Abele wrote:

Is it really enough to change the component to re-assign a bug to
another project? Shouldn't the 'Assigned To:' field be filled with the
appropriate mailing list address?
Yeah, you have to remember to select the Reassign bug to owner of
selected component option when changing the component.
Ha, I knew there was something... thanks, Joe.

Cheers,
Erik
/me goes to look how much mis-owned bugs are in bugzilla ;)



Re-assigning bugs, was Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26149]...

2004-01-15 Thread Erik Abele
On 15.01.2004, at 09:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26149

Apache 2.0.48 won't load Tomcat 4.1.29 in-process via JK2

--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-01-15 08:54  
---
Changing to tomcat
Is it really enough to change the component to re-assign a bug to  
another project? Shouldn't the 'Assigned To:' field be filled with the  
appropriate mailing list address?

Not sure, but I realized that this bug is still assigned to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
and didn't show up on tomcat-dev@  
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList? 
listId=46count=67297). Hmm...

Cheers,
Erik


Re: check_forensic not working with GNU xargs?

2004-01-13 Thread Erik Abele
On 13.01.2004, at 22:08, Ivan Ristic wrote:

Checked on RH, Suse and Cygwin, all running the GNU version
of xargs. On which platforms does it work?
Works for me on FreeBSD and OS X and would work with -i on RH8.0's GNU 
version of xargs.

Cheers,
Erik


Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/docs/error README

2004-01-06 Thread Erik Abele
On 06.01.2004, at 11:40, André Malo wrote:

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Changes with Apache 2.0.49

  +  *) Add Polish translation of error messages.  PR 25101.
  + [Tomasz Kepczynski tomek jot23.org]
  +
iirc these made it never into the change log.
The Swedish and the Polish ones did, e.g.:

Revision 1.1347 - Thu Dec 18 15:29:41 2003 UTC (2 weeks, 4 days ago) by 
trawick
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/httpd-2.0/CHANGES?r1=1.1346r2=1.1347

However, I think from a user POV the change warrants an entry in 
CHANGES, hmm...

Cheers,
Erik
nd




Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support/win32 ApacheMonitor.c ApacheMonitor.h ApacheMonitor.rc wintty.c

2004-01-02 Thread Erik Abele
On 02.01.2004, at 14:34, Sander Striker wrote:
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 13:32, Ben Laurie wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nd  2004/01/01 05:26:26
  Log:
  update license to 2004.
Why? Unless the file changes in 2004, the copyright doesn't. And, in  
any
case, the earliest date applies, so it gets us nowhere.
We seem to have this discussion every year.  I'm too lazy to  
extensively
dig in the archives, but:

http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg? 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=79209

Roy:
That would change a lot more, and a lot less, than we want.
 I've committed the change for 2.0 and will do 1.3 next.
Roy, care to explain what it is we want (and more importantly why)?
I promise to mold the answer into a developer FAQ.
IANAL (nor am I Roy, of course) but after reading  
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html (especially #noc and #hlc) it  
appears to me that basically the correct way is what Ben suggested  
(only bump year when file changes):

The notice for visually perceptible copies should contain all the  
following three elements:
...
2. The year of first publication of the work. In the case of  
compilations or derivative works incorporating previously published  
material, the year date of first publication of the compilation or  
derivative work is sufficient.
...

On the other hand I don't see any harm in doing the bump in all files  
in one go since one can argue that in the end it's a combined work of  
all the files and we're just stating this in every, single file. So,  
when one file changes, the combined work changes and we've to change  
every file to reflect this fact. Does this make sense?

just my 2c...

Cheers,
Erik


Re: UseCanonicalName semi-broken in 1.3.x

2003-11-12 Thread Erik Abele
On 12.11.2003, at 18:15, Jim Jagielski wrote:

It's been brought to my attention that UseCanonicalName in
1.3 is semi-broken, not completely honoring the port value
when UseCanonicalName Off (see ap_get_server_port()).
Heartburn if I fix this?
dunno if you are already aware of this report:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24442
...so just as a pointer, but generally +1 to a fix.

Cheers,
Erik


Re: the wheel of httpd-dev life is surely slowing down, solutions please

2003-11-12 Thread Erik Abele
On 13.11.2003, at 01:29, Aaron Bannert wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 05:14:35PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
==
1) Bugs
searching for NEW and REOPENED bugs in httpd-2.0 returns: 420 entries
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi? 
bug_status=NEWbug_status=REOPENEDproduct=Apache+httpd-2.0

Suggestion: make bugzilla CC bug-reports to the dev list. Most
developers won't just go and check the bugs database to see if there
is something to fix, both because they don't have time and because
there are too many things to fix. Posting the reports to the list
raises a chance for the developer to have a free minute and may be to
resolve the bug immediately or close it.
Would anyone else be in favor of exploring other forms of bug-tracking?
The old system (gnats) was completely email-oriented, which was good
and bad. Bugzilla may be more usable for web-oriented users, but it
it definitely more difficult to use offline (ie. impossible). Perhaps
we could try out the bug tracking system used by the debian project
(http://www.debian.org/Bugs/).
I'd be very in favour of exploring other forms of bug-tracking. For  
example
we'll have a full replication of BugZilla in Jira (/me hides) in the  
near future
here on ASF hardware (see http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/ for a preview).

I've to admit that I really like it and especially as a patch-tracking  
tool
it could be useful, at least IMHO.

Btw, Scarab (http://nagoya.apache.org/scarab/issues) is also available  
but I
doubt that it is used by a single project ;-)

Cheers,
Erik


Re: the wheel of httpd-dev life is surely slowing down, solutions please

2003-11-12 Thread Erik Abele
On 13.11.2003, at 02:10, Aaron Bannert wrote:

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 02:04:31AM +0100, Erik Abele wrote:
I'd be very in favour of exploring other forms of bug-tracking. For
example
we'll have a full replication of BugZilla in Jira (/me hides) in the
near future
here on ASF hardware (see http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/ for a 
preview).

I've to admit that I really like it and especially as a patch-tracking
tool
it could be useful, at least IMHO.
Btw, Scarab (http://nagoya.apache.org/scarab/issues) is also available
but I
doubt that it is used by a single project ;-)
My main requirement is that the bug tracking system be fully-accessible
through email. Having a full web interface is great, but not at the
expense of usable offline replies to bug reports.
Okay, I can understand that.

(Do either of these bug tracking systems support this?)
Hmm, don't know, but I don't think so...
Is bugzilla able to be fully controlled through email?
Cheers,
Erik
-aaron




Re: htdocs in 1.3 CVS tree?

2003-11-11 Thread Erik Abele
I'm able to reproduce the described symptoms every time
I check out the apache-1.3 repo. I've looked into it now but
couldn't find any problems so far.
It'd be great if one of the CVS gurus (infrastructure is cc'ed)
could have a quick look at this.
Further info:
a fresh checkout of httpd-docs-1.3 works fine. also an
update of apache-1.3 which was checked out around
mid-september (interestingly this tree is lacking the cgi-src
and htdocs directory but both directories are visible in
viewcvs?!?).
Cheers,
Erik
On 04.11.2003, at 20:04, Geoffrey Young wrote:

hi again

I'm still seeing this error on my local system.  since those who tried 
were not able to reproduce, I decided to try on cvs.apache.org

 hostname
minotaur.apache.org
 mkdir src
 cd src
 cvs -z9 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic checkout 
apache-1.3
cvs server: Updating apache-1.3
...
U apache-1.3/src/test/vhtest/logs/.cvsignore
cvs server: existing repository /home/cvspublic/apache-1.3/htdocs does 
not match /home/cvspublic/httpd-docs-1.3/htdocs
cvs server: ignoring module htdocs-1.3

 ll apache-1.3/htdocs/manual/mod
total 2
drwxr-xr-x  2 geoff  geoff  512 Nov  4 10:57 CVS
sorry if I seem like a nag, but it just doesn't seem right...

--Geoff

Geoffrey Young wrote:
hi all
when I do a fresh checkout of apache-1.3
$ cvs -z9 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic 
checkout apache-1.3
I see this error
cvs server: existing repository /home/cvspublic/apache-1.3/htdocs 
does not match /home/cvspublic/httpd-docs-1.3/htdocs
and htdocs is free of content.
from modules, it looks like apache-1.3 should be both
apache-1.3   apache-1.3 htdocs-1.3
so I should be getting the docs too.  is something amuck?  it's been 
a while since I've looked at 1.3 cvs...
--Geoff




Re: 1.3.29 tarballs available for testing, Take II

2003-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 26/10/2003, at 02:46, Jim Jagielski wrote:

If you've rec'd 2 copies of this (the 1st on Friday), please ignore.

The 1.3.29 tarballs are available for testing at:

http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist

Feedback desired and welcomed.
Looks good for me on OS X and RH Linux 9.0.
+1 on both (2.0.48  1.3.29) tarballs.
Cheers,
Erik


Re: 2.0.48 tarballs ready for testing

2003-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 26/10/2003, at 03:26, Sander Striker wrote:

The tarballs for 2.0.48 are ready for testing. You can find
them at:
 http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/
Looks good for me on OS X and RH Linux 9.0.
+1 on both (2.0.48  1.3.29) tarballs.
Cheers,
Erik


Re: ap_process_config_tree called twice -- causes command_rec entries to be called twice -- httpd-2.0.47

2003-10-12 Thread Erik Abele
On 12/10/2003, at 09:33, John Millaway wrote:

Hi,

In httpd-2.0.47, command_rec entries are being called twice, via
ap_process_config_tree. The first call occurs at main.c:581, and the 
second
call occurs at main.c:638.  The result is that the callbacks in a 
module's
command_rec are called twice, as if the module's directives had 
appeared
twice in the httpd.conf file. Is this supposed to happen? -John
Yes, this is the intended behaviour, there's even a comment at 
main.c:564

/* Note that we preflight the config file once
 * before reading it _again_ in the main loop.
 * This allows things, log files configuration
 * for example, to settle down.
 */
So, post_config hooks are always called twice. You can see a working 
example
in modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c or in modules/generators/mod_cgid.c: 
there
you'll find a flag called first_time in the post_config/cgid_init 
handler which takes
care of the number of passes.

Cheers,
Erik


Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/docs/manual/misc relevant_standards.html.en relevant_standards.xml

2003-09-19 Thread Erik Abele
On 19/09/2003, at 08:45, André Malo wrote:

Roy T. Fielding wrote:

 dta href=http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2617.txt;RFC 
2617/a
  -  (Draft standard)/dt
  +  (Standards Track)/dt


IETF standards track:

   Internet Draft  Proposed Standard  Draft Standard  Standard

2617 is a Draft Standard, like 2616.
Doh, sorry. Can someone please ( re-)correct it? I have currently no 
cvs access from here... Thanks.

nd
Done.

Cheers,
Erik


Re: ScriptLog

2003-09-06 Thread Erik Abele
On 06/09/2003, at 11:43, Astrid Keßler wrote:

Cliff wrote:

Yes, it would.  But for a debug log it's a price I'm willing to 
accept.
Just an unformed idea: allow these directives within Directory (and
Location?), but not within .htaccess files. The log file could be
opened as usual.
Hmm, yeah, but this won't help with the problem Cliff is facing, I 
guess: he is probably logged into apache.org and wants to debug a 
script he's developing right now, so (pre-)enabling it in the server 
config makes no sense. It'd be really nice to have the possibility to 
enable script/rewrite logging 'on the fly' without any changes to the 
config, besides a AllowOverride option (and with the downside of 
opening/closing the logfile per request).

Or do you possibly think about something similar to the following:

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ ...
Location /cgi-bin/debug
   ScriptLog ...
   ScriptLogBuffer ...
/Location
where you'd have a dedicated sub directory to test your scripts. Hmm, 
why not?

Cheers,
Erik
Kess




Re: Time for 2.2?

2003-08-31 Thread Erik Abele
On 31/08/2003, at 09:21, Sander Striker wrote:

Indeed.  Since 2.2 is already about the AAA rewrite it would be nice 
to include
the final step on that subject aswell.

Thoughts?  -- justin
What about: I'll do a 2.1 release at the same time as 2.0.48?
Just to prevent any misunderstandings: are we talking about a 2.2 
*alpha* or
*beta* release here, or what will it be called? If it's in any way 
marked as *unstable*,
then a clear +1 from my side. The recent changes are definitely worth 
to get
tested in the wild, IMHO.

A X.Y release where X and especially Y  0 is often perceived as a 
major bug fix
release in my experience (fwiw) and I'd like to ensure that nobody is 
expecting too
much... hmm, but perhaps I'm too fussy about this?

Cheers,
Erik
Sander



Re: Apache 2.0.47 Windows SSL

2003-07-25 Thread Erik Abele
On 25/07/2003, at 06:07, Henri Gomez wrote:

Hi to all,

Did some of you have a binary for mod_ssl 2.0.47 Windows ?
There is a 'over-complete' pre-built Apache 2.0.47 package
including mod_ssl and OpenSSL 0.9.7b for Windows:
http://www.apachefriends.org/wampp.html

But be aware that it's fairly large, around 43MB. Didn't look
into it; just stumbled over it recently...
Cheers,
Erik
Regards




Re: Offering modules for core httpd distro

2003-07-24 Thread Erik Abele
On 24/07/2003, at 11:45, André Malo wrote:

Looks like we get closer to the point we should develop a CAHSMAN [1]. 
Spare
time available somewhere? :)
just fyi: there's a discussion about a possible revamp of 
modules.apache.org going on on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
irc://#apache-modules. Under consideration are the following topics: 
site design, possible new features, backend clean-up/enhancements, 
etc... perhaps this is a starting point :)

Cheers,
Erik
Ahh, and WRT Nicks module offer, I completely agree with you, nd.

nd

[1] Comprehensive Apache HTTP Server Module Archive Network ...



Re: configuring an ODBC database with JNDI

2003-07-24 Thread Erik Abele
On 25/07/2003, at 02:10, dein_metzger wrote:

hi everybody.
 I am new to the list. and to JSP and JavaBeans
 I would like to know how i configure an ODBC database called inicio
to work with JNDI, and how I use it in my JSP / Javabean.  (I am using
tomcat 4.1 on windows xp)
Sorry, but this is the developer list for the Apache HTTP Server 
Project.
It seems, you're searching for a Tomcat-specific user-list or perhaps
other Java / Jakarta related lists.

Have a look here:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Tomcat
Cheers,
Erik
 thanks in advance,

 InacioW-



Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c

2003-06-01 Thread Erik Abele
Thanks, Justin!

Cheers,
Erik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jerenkrantz2003/05/31 12:29:47

  Modified:modules/ssl mod_ssl.c
  Log:
  Revert revision 1.81 which called non-existent SSL_load_library.
  
  No idea where this was seen, but OpenSSL 0.9.7b does not have this.  This
  gets mod_ssl working again.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.82  +1 -1  httpd-2.0/modules/ssl/mod_ssl.c
  
  Index: mod_ssl.c
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-2.0/modules/ssl/mod_ssl.c,v
  retrieving revision 1.81
  retrieving revision 1.82
  diff -u -u -r1.81 -r1.82
  --- mod_ssl.c	30 May 2003 21:35:04 -	1.81
  +++ mod_ssl.c	31 May 2003 19:29:47 -	1.82
  @@ -240,7 +240,7 @@
*/
   CRYPTO_malloc_init();
   ERR_load_crypto_strings();
  -SSL_load_library();
  +OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms();
   #if HAVE_ENGINE_LOAD_BUILTIN_ENGINES
   ENGINE_load_builtin_engines();
   #endif
  
  
  




Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/docs/manual/vhosts details.html.en details.html.ko.euc-krexamples.html.en examples.html.ko.euc-kr fd-limits.html.en fd-limi

2003-06-01 Thread Erik Abele
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Even if we don't drop the generated files in the repository (which I 
won't really comment on, other than that Java on FreeBSD isn't very 
stable - which matters because daedalus is on FreeBSD - someone may want 
to try to generate the docs on daedalus itself), I think the best 
overall solution would be to alter the CVS mailer script to send ViewCVS 
URLs to all of the files that changed when the entire diff exceeds a 
certain limit.  Commits that exceed the mailing list threshold are 
dropped and that's not good *ever*.

I imagine some Perl hacker could tweak logaccum.pl to do this 
(/home/cvs/CVSROOT/log_accum.pl).  If not, well, it might be time to 
rewrite logaccum.pl into Python.  =)  -- justin

I just submitted a patch for log_accum.pl to infrastructure@, which does 
exactly this.

Resulting mail msg exceeds predefined size limit - ViewCVS URLs
Resulting mail msg doesn't exceed predefined size limit - full-featured 
diff as normal

No dropped commit mails, all fine :)

Cheers,
Erik
BTW, AFAICT somebody recently had the same problem on Xerces-C, so this 
is not only an issue with our we-store-all-and-everything docs tree :-)



Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c

2003-05-31 Thread Erik Abele
Hmmm,

but apps/apps.h and some example apps (rsautl.c, pkcs8.c) are using 
OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms() instead of SSL_load_library() and 
furthermore it seems that the complete source tree (0.9.6  0.9.7 CVS 
HEAD of yesterday) lacks any reference to SSL_load_library()?!

Perhaps I'm blind but building 2.1 together with mod_ssl and OpenSSL 
0.9.7b is currently broken for me:

modules/ssl/.libs/mod_ssl.al(mod_ssl.lo)(.text+0x26): In function 
`ssl_hook_pre_config':
/tmp/httpd-install/modules/ssl/mod_ssl.c:243: undefined reference to 
`SSL_load_library'

Cheers,
Erik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wrowe   2003/05/30 14:35:55

  Modified:modules/ssl mod_ssl.c
  Log:
OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms is simply an alias for SSL_load_library.
  
Note that the entire schema of what-we-load-how follows from
OpenSSL 0.9.7's own apps/ example applications.  More review
is greatly desired, but that's where I believed I should
start looking for the 'correct' order of operations.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.81  +1 -1  httpd-2.0/modules/ssl/mod_ssl.c
  
  Index: mod_ssl.c
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-2.0/modules/ssl/mod_ssl.c,v
  retrieving revision 1.80
  retrieving revision 1.81
  diff -u -r1.80 -r1.81
  --- mod_ssl.c	30 May 2003 20:58:55 -	1.80
  +++ mod_ssl.c	30 May 2003 21:35:04 -	1.81
  @@ -240,7 +240,7 @@
*/
   CRYPTO_malloc_init();
   ERR_load_crypto_strings();
  -OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms();
  +SSL_load_library();
   #if HAVE_ENGINE_LOAD_BUILTIN_ENGINES
   ENGINE_load_builtin_engines();
   #endif




Fixed [Fwd: Re: PR 8889: 1.3 apidoc is broken and I don't know howto fix :)]

2003-04-01 Thread Erik Abele
Just pinging another (the 3rd time)... perhaps now somebody can have a 
look at this.

It's all fixed and in CVS but I don't have enough karma to fix this by 
myself :(

cheers,
Erik
HINT: if nobody has the feeling to fix this just because its 1.3, then 
please give me access to daedalus and I will go and fix it :-

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: PR 8889: 1.3 apidoc is broken and I don't know how to fix 
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:34:48 +0100
From: Erik Abele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

André Malo wrote:

 * André Malo wrote:

 http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8889

 All the links inside of the text are causing 404s (missing
 apidoc_prefix and .html suffix). Where is that stuff stored
 and generated? Although it's 1.3 we should keep it clean :)

 hmm. It seems, I'm not the right person to fix that. Can
 someone with more knowledge about that fun explain me how to
 the actual online apidoc is/was built or much better,
 fix it? ;-))
I've fixed that in cvs:/site-tools/httpd-docs/APIdict.pm r1.6 but I 
don't have a clue how this gets on the website. I guess it's checked out 
into the appropriate dir on daedalus and then built over there, but 
since I don't have an account on daedalus, we'll need somebody else to 
fix this :)

Can anybody please take the required steps and update the website 
(http://httpd.apache.org/dev/apidoc/)? You'll need the following:

- cvs:/httpd-docs-1.3/apidoc/*
- cvs:/site-tools/httpd-docs/APIdict.pm
- cvs:/site-tools/httpd-docs/mkapidict
and then execute

./mkapidict -l0 -d api.list -o index.html -t api-dict.html -v

TIA and cheers,
Erik
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Re: Fixed [Fwd: Re: PR 8889: 1.3 apidoc is broken and I don't knowhow to fix :)]

2003-04-01 Thread Erik Abele
André Malo wrote:
* Erik Abele wrote:

Just pinging another (the 3rd time)... perhaps now somebody can have a
look at this.
Been there, done that. Works perfect now. Thanks for the reminder ;-)

nd
Thanks, André!

cheers,
Erik


Re: Backport problem

2003-03-23 Thread Erik Abele
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
I see we've pushed to cvs HEAD of httpd-2.0 - and we are most broken.

Please back us down to tag APACHE_2_0_BRANCH!!!

For example, http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/httpd-2.0/docs/platform/
tries to returns a content-type: application/x-httpd-cgi
there isn't a docs/platform subdirectory, try instead 
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/httpd-2.0/docs/manual/platform/

btw, the body of the response equipped with a content-type of 
application/x-httpd-cgi actually contains the error msg:

'/viewcvs.cgi/httpd-2.0/docs/platform/: unknown location'

if you call it with viewcvs.cgi instead of only viewcvs you'll get a 
correct content-type of text/plain :-) hmmm

HTH,
erik
Bill




Re: place for suggestions

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Abele
 From: Günter Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi,
 I was just asked where a user should send his suggestion for new features he's
 missing in Apache? Should it go into BugZilla?

An issue filed in bugzilla and marked as enhancement should be fine IMHO.

cheers,
Erik

 Guenter.



Re: how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Abele
 From: Günter Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi,
 just wanted to compile 2.0.45 (need it because of 3rd-party module lower MMN)
 but I dont know how to get it:
 - http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/ has only 2.1-dev, but its named 2.0
 - http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ also only shows 2.1-dev, but named
 httpd-2.0
 - cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co httpd-2.0 also
 returns 2.1-dev
 

you'll have to check out the 2.0 branch instead of HEAD:

cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co -d httpd-2.0.45 -r
APACHE_2_0_BRANCH httpd-2.0

(one line, my MUA unfortunately wraps lines)

cheers,
Erik

 so how can I get current 2.0-stable ??
 and: wouldnt it make sense to rename all these 2.0 to 2.1 to avoid confusion??
 and would be nice to have 2.0-stable also as snapshots...
 
 Guenter.
 



Re: PR 8889: 1.3 apidoc is broken and I don't know how to fix :)

2003-03-01 Thread Erik Abele
André Malo wrote:
* André Malo wrote:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8889

All the links inside of the text are causing 404s (missing apidoc_ prefix
and .html suffix). Where is that stuff stored and generated? Although it's
1.3 we should keep it clean :)
hmm. It seems, I'm not the right person to fix that. Can someone with more 
knowledge about that fun explain me how to the actual online apidoc is/was 
built or much better, fix it? ;-))
I've fixed that in cvs:/site-tools/httpd-docs/APIdict.pm but I don't have a clue how this gets on the website. I guess it's checked out into the appropriate dir on daedalus and then built over there, but since I don't have an account on daedalus, we'll need somebody else to fix this :)

Can anybody please take the required steps and update the website (http://httpd.apache.org/dev/apidoc/)? You'll need the following:

- cvs:/httpd-docs-1.3/apidoc/*
- cvs:/site-tools/httpd-docs/APIdict.pm
- cvs:/site-tools/httpd-docs/mkapidict
and then execute

./mkapidict -l0 -d api.list -o index.html -t api-dict.html -v

TIA and cheers,
Erik


Re: Apache 2.0 download problem

2003-02-28 Thread Erik Abele
 Got a ton of those lately... It's proably because
 http://nagoya.apache.org/mirror/httpd/binaries/win32/
 
 Advertises that the last stable version is 2.0.43, while in the files we
 have 2.0.44...

Therefore I sent the attached patch some days ago ;-)

Can somebody please apply it to the httpd-dist repo or
alternatively give me enough karma to do it by myself.

BTW, I just noticed that the README.html/HEADER.html files are showing up in
the file list on www.apache.org/dist/httpd/ (et al.).

I think this was due to perl.apache.org's ordinary README files, but I
wonder if we couldn't handle this selectively for httpd-dist (.htaccess:
IndexIgnore ...) and hide 'em ?

cheers,
Erik

 
 Pier
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:20:50 -0800
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 Subject: Apache 2.0 download problem
 
 
 Hi Pier,
 
 I've just tried to download the last distribution of the Apache web server
 (for Win32) from several download mirrors (including your servers), but the
 link to the distribution package httpd-2.0.43-win32-src.zip seems to be
 broken! Where can I get the software?
 
 
 
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Index: binaries/win32/HEADER.html
===
RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-dist/binaries/win32/HEADER.html,v
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -r1.28 HEADER.html
--- binaries/win32/HEADER.html  3 Oct 2002 15:12:16 -   1.28
+++ binaries/win32/HEADER.html  24 Feb 2003 12:35:50 -
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 lia href=#winsockWindows 95 Apache Users Read This First/a/li
 lia href=#xpbugWindows XP Apache Users Read This First/abr//li
 lia href=#zonealarmZoneAlarm (or other firewall) Users Read This First/a/li
-lia href=#stable style=color:purple;The current stable release is Apache 
2.0.43/abr//li
+lia href=#stable style=color:purple;The current stable release is Apache 
2.0.44/abr//li
 lia href=#old style=color:green;The old stable release is Apache 
1.3.27/a/li
 lia href=#msiMSI Binary Distribution Packages/a/li
 lia href=TROUBLESHOOTING.htmlTroubleshooting MSI Installation Problems/a/li
Index: binaries/win32/README.html
===
RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-dist/binaries/win32/README.html,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -r1.32 README.html
--- binaries/win32/README.html  22 Jan 2003 16:19:28 -  1.32
+++ binaries/win32/README.html  24 Feb 2003 12:35:51 -
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@
responsibility to determine the compatibility between any firewall product
and the Apache HTTP Server./p
 
-h2a name=stableThe current stable release is Apache 2.0.43/a/h2
+h2a name=stableThe current stable release is Apache 2.0.44/a/h2
 
 pApache 2.0 is released for General Availability./p
 
@@ -110,8 +110,8 @@
 
 pBecause the distribution tree has changed, we haven't yet identified an 
effective way to incorporate the source tree into the binary distribution.
-   You will find the source package in a href=../../httpd-2.0.43-win32-src.zip
-   /dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.43-win32-src.zip/a.  That -win32-src.zip file contains 
+   You will find the source package in a href=../../httpd-2.0.44-win32-src.zip
+   /dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.44-win32-src.zip/a.  That -win32-src.zip file contains 
strongonly/strong source and build files, and contains strongno/strong
binaries./p
 


[PATCH] Re: Apache 2.0 download problem

2003-02-28 Thread Erik Abele
Greg Ames wrote:
Erik Abele wrote:

Therefore I sent the attached patch some days ago ;-)
Patch applied and that directory cvs up'd on daedalus.  Thanks, Erik.

What I didn't do (and your patch didn't do either) is change the 
reference in README.html to a small patch for a small problem pointing to
apache_2.0.43-win9x-x86-apr-patch.zip .  I don't know for certain if 
that is relevant for .44, but there is a .44 patch with that naming 
convention, so maybe there is another small problem.  Could someone who 
knows for sure what's going on here please do whatever is appropriate?
My patch didn't include it because it was already correct :-)

It said '...is called codeapache_2.0.44-win9x-x86-apr-patch.zip/code' which is correct (the appropriate file is there, see also Joshua's commit - r1.32).

Now it says: '...is called codeapache_2.0.43-win9x-x86-apr-patch.zip/code' which is not correct IMHO, there is no file with such a name.

Find below another patch to get it finally right (also linked to the mentioned patch for clarity)...

cheers,
Erik
Thanks,
Greg
Index: README.html
===
RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-dist/binaries/win32/README.html,v
retrieving revision 1.33
diff -u -r1.33 README.html
--- README.html 28 Feb 2003 17:13:27 -  1.33
+++ README.html 28 Feb 2003 20:35:35 -
@@ -93,9 +93,9 @@
pDue to a small problem in this release, Win95/98/ME users must
download, in addition to the regular distribution, a small patch file
containing an updated codebin/libapr.dll/code file.  The file
-is called codeapache_2.0.43-win9x-x86-apr-patch.zip/code
-and should be extracted from the root of your Apache installation./p
-
+is called a href=apache_2.0.44-win9x-x86-apr-patch.zip
+codeapache_2.0.44-win9x-x86-apr-patch.zip/code/a and should be
+extracted from the root of your Apache installation./p
pA full setup package (.exe) containing the Win9x/WinNT Microsoft System 
   Installer installer is now available.  If the Microsoft System Installer 




Re: PR 8889: 1.3 apidoc is broken

2003-02-28 Thread Erik Abele
AFAIK the corresponding data files can be found in the httpd-docs-1.3 module [1]. See the messages-?.xml files as well as the apidoc subdir. The scripts to generate the whole stuff are located in the httpd-docs subdir in the site-tools module [2].

cheers,
Erik
[1] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/httpd-docs-1.3/
[2] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/site-tools/httpd-docs/
André Malo wrote:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8889

All the links inside of the text are causing 404s (missing apidoc_ prefix 
and .html suffix). Where is that stuff stored and generated? Although it's 
1.3 we should keep it clean :)

nd



Re: [PATCH] Re: Apache 2.0 download problem

2003-02-28 Thread Erik Abele
Greg Ames wrote:
D'oh!  I must have fat fingered it somehow.  Sorry.

(writes 50 times on the whiteboard: I will do cvs diff before cvs commit
I will do cvs diff before cvs commit
I will do cvs diff before cvs commit
etc)
Hehe, recently I needed three attempts to get a simple two-line commit right :-

OK, it should be correct on daedalus now.  Thanks for the review and for 
the second patch.
great, thanks too.

cheers,
Erik


[PATCH] httpd-dist typos

2003-02-24 Thread Erik Abele
Can somebody please apply the attached patch to the httpd-dist repo (or
alternatively give me karma); there are just some 2.0.43's instead of
2.0.44's ;-)

BTW, I just noticed that the README.html/HEADER.html files are showing up in
the file list on www.apache.org/dist/httpd/ (et al.).

I think this was due to perl.apache.org's ordinary README files, but I
wonder if we couldn't handle this selectively for httpd-dist (.htaccess:
IndexIgnore ...) and hide 'em ?

cheers,
Erik

Index: binaries/win32/HEADER.html
===
RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-dist/binaries/win32/HEADER.html,v
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -r1.28 HEADER.html
--- binaries/win32/HEADER.html  3 Oct 2002 15:12:16 -   1.28
+++ binaries/win32/HEADER.html  24 Feb 2003 12:35:50 -
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 lia href=#winsockWindows 95 Apache Users Read This First/a/li
 lia href=#xpbugWindows XP Apache Users Read This First/abr//li
 lia href=#zonealarmZoneAlarm (or other firewall) Users Read This First/a/li
-lia href=#stable style=color:purple;The current stable release is Apache 
2.0.43/abr//li
+lia href=#stable style=color:purple;The current stable release is Apache 
2.0.44/abr//li
 lia href=#old style=color:green;The old stable release is Apache 
1.3.27/a/li
 lia href=#msiMSI Binary Distribution Packages/a/li
 lia href=TROUBLESHOOTING.htmlTroubleshooting MSI Installation Problems/a/li
Index: binaries/win32/README.html
===
RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-dist/binaries/win32/README.html,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -r1.32 README.html
--- binaries/win32/README.html  22 Jan 2003 16:19:28 -  1.32
+++ binaries/win32/README.html  24 Feb 2003 12:35:51 -
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@
responsibility to determine the compatibility between any firewall product
and the Apache HTTP Server./p
 
-h2a name=stableThe current stable release is Apache 2.0.43/a/h2
+h2a name=stableThe current stable release is Apache 2.0.44/a/h2
 
 pApache 2.0 is released for General Availability./p
 
@@ -110,8 +110,8 @@
 
 pBecause the distribution tree has changed, we haven't yet identified an 
effective way to incorporate the source tree into the binary distribution.
-   You will find the source package in a href=../../httpd-2.0.43-win32-src.zip
-   /dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.43-win32-src.zip/a.  That -win32-src.zip file contains 
+   You will find the source package in a href=../../httpd-2.0.44-win32-src.zip
+   /dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.44-win32-src.zip/a.  That -win32-src.zip file contains 
strongonly/strong source and build files, and contains strongno/strong
binaries./p
 


Re: Where to start from?

2003-02-20 Thread Erik Abele
You might want to try the Apache Modelling Portal [http://apache.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/] and it's main doc http://apache.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=3

Perhaps my pretty old (but recently updated) linklist might be helpful too: http://www.codefaktor.de/misc/apachelinks.html

Have look at the sections #Apache 1.3 Developer Resources and #Apache 2.0 Developer Resources.

cheers,
Erik

ahh, and don't forget to actually read the source code :-)

Chan Casey wrote:

Hi, I want understand more about the internal design of Apache on the 
source code level.  Can anyone provide some hints/info about where to 
start with, and the inter-relationship among different components of Apache?
 
Thanks, any help is appreciated.
 
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Re: merging httpd-pop3 into httpd-2.0?

2003-01-25 Thread Erik Abele
Harrie Hazewinkel wrote:

HI,

On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 10:22 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:


--On Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:43 PM +0100 Harrie Hazewinkel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

3)Why for instance, could this not stay as a seperate module??


The case that can be made for folding it in is that there is no 
community currently around mod_pop3.  If people were to step up and be 
responsible for it outside of the main tree, then I don't think 
there'd be a desire to merge it in.

I see it different. Currently their is no interest in it, so there is
no reason to fold it in. People are not interested in it and thus
it would just consuming extra bytes in an HTTPD distribution.



Perhaps there is not much interest because it is somewhat 'hidden'? IMHO mod_pop3 would gain more visibility and therefore perhaps a better community when folded into httpd. Imagine windoze users: they mostly rely on binary distributions and up to now there are just the sources around. If mod_pop3 gets used more widely, there probably will be also more developers who will be attracted to contribute.

Leaving it in it's own repo-module as it is now, without any person in charge of it, will let it die on the long run.

Personally I'm +/-0 towards folding it into httpd, since I won't have the time to contribute...just my 2c.

cheers,
erik





Re: merging httpd-pop3 into httpd-2.0?

2003-01-25 Thread Erik Abele
Jim Jagielski wrote:

Erik Abele wrote:


Perhaps there is not much interest because it is somewhat 'hidden'?
IMHO mod_pop3 would gain more visibility and therefore perhaps a
better community when folded into httpd. Imagine windoze users:
they mostly rely on binary distributions and up to now there are
just the sources around. If mod_pop3 gets used more widely, there
probably will be also more developers who will be attracted to
contribute.

Leaving it in it's own repo-module as it is now, without any person
in charge of it, will let it die on the long run.

Personally I'm +/-0 towards folding it into httpd, since I won't
have the time to contribute...just my 2c.


Once again, I'm +1 in getting it moved in. It's an example of an 
protocol module. It's a good module. It's a worthwhile module. It 
would benefit from more people working on it, and people are 
interested in doing so.


Well, than let's move it in. A quick overview of the last mails shows the following votes:

justin +0 modules/pop3
jim +1 modules/experimental
bills -0 !modules/pop3
willrowe -0 modules/experimental / +0 modules/pop / +1 for it's current repository

plus some positive votes from Daniel Lopez, Thomas Eibner, Harrie Hazwinkel and Chris Taylor.

As far as I'm concerned I will change my +/-0 to a +1 and would like to see it in modules/experimental.

Perhaps we should have a binding vote and then proceed? What has to be done? As Jim pointed out, the licence issues so far are intact...

cheers,
erik





Segfault in 2.1 head on linux

2002-12-29 Thread Erik Abele
After building the current Apache 2.1  APR HEAD I hit a segfault by starting the server. A quick gdb session shows problems in apr_file_open at apr/file_io/unix/open.c:149

---
(gdb) run -X
Starting program: /usr/sbin/httpd -X
[New Thread 1024 (LWP 21251)]

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 1024 (LWP 21251)]
0x401ef78d in apr_file_open (new=0xb59c, 
   fname=0x8147078 /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf, flag=129, perm=4095, 
   pool=0x80ff8d0) at open.c:149
149	if ((flag  APR_BUFFERED)  ((*new)-flags  APR_XTHREAD)) {
(gdb) bt
#0  0x401ef78d in apr_file_open (new=0xb59c, 
   fname=0x8147078 /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf, flag=129, perm=4095, 
   pool=0x80ff8d0) at open.c:149
#1  0x080b71d8 in ap_pcfg_openfile (ret_cfg=0xb638, p=0x80ff8d0, 
   name=0x8147078 /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf) at util.c:910
#2  0x080b2e52 in ap_process_resource_config (s=0x8106320, 
   fname=0x8147078 /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf, conftree=0x80f2354, 
   p=0x80ff8d0, ptemp=0x81439e0) at config.c:1545
#3  0x080b352f in ap_read_config (process=0x80fd948, ptemp=0x81439e0, 
   filename=0x80e2abb /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf, conftree=0x80f2354)
   at config.c:1832
#4  0x080b5130 in main (argc=2, argv=0xb8e4) at main.c:565
#5  0x42017589 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
(gdb) print (*new)-flags
Cannot access memory at address 0xc
(gdb) print (*new)   
$2 = (apr_file_t *) 0x0
---

seems that this has something to do with the latest changes in apr/file_io/unix/open.c... the following patch works fine for me.

--- /home/cvs/apr/file_io/unix/open.c	Mon Dec 30 02:58:01 2002
+++ open.c	Mon Dec 30 03:59:26 2002
@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@
#endif

#if APR_HAS_THREADS
-if ((flag  APR_BUFFERED)  ((*new)-flags  APR_XTHREAD)) {
+if ((flag  APR_BUFFERED)  (flag  APR_XTHREAD)) {
rv = apr_thread_mutex_create(thlock,
 APR_THREAD_MUTEX_DEFAULT, pool);
if (rv) {

also does reverting open.c to rev. 1.101.

cheers,
erik



Re: [Review] MPM docs revision

2002-12-17 Thread Erik Abele
 Von: Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Datum: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:30:55 +0100
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Re: [Review] MPM docs revision
 
 On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:09:58AM +0100, André Malo wrote:
 
 snip
 
 - added new docs for beos, leader, mpmt_os2 and threadpool.
 The descriptions are mainly taken from the READMEs and/or code comments.
 
 i'll post some stuff about my new mpm in some days ...
 
 btw: are there manpages for the apache configuration ?
 

We removed the available manpages for apachectl  httpd since there is
nobody who is able to maintain and update the nroff stuff (see
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/httpd-docs-2.0/man/)

You can find the updated XML/HTML versions online at
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/programs/httpd.html
and http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/programs/apachectl.html

HTH,
erik




Re: [PATCH] ServerSignature privacy - option 1

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Abele
Francis Daly wrote:

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 11:29:29AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:


And, if you could submit a patch for the documentation, that'd be 
appreciated.  =)  

...


The other is for httpd-docs-2.0/manual/mod/core.xml, which adds an
extra comment to the two directives.  Also against the most recent CVS
version; hopefully I've got the style correct.


no problem here, the patch is fine for the docs. Perhaps we should add a 
nice red border to make it easier to find the info. I will do that when 
the patches are actually committed.

erik




Re: [PATCH] mod_negotiation.c

2002-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

At 07:44 PM 10/25/2002, you wrote:


[ Simply trying again; or according to Jeff: nag, nag, nag ;-) ]

If you use the body feature in type map files, the MIME-headers
currently are set dependant on what (mostly) type_checker says about the
type map file.

The attached patch sets the MIME-type, charset, content-language and
content-encoding of a negotiated type-map body. Thus you can hold
different types, languages etc. inside the same file, for example:



Nice!  Thanks, I'll look and commit soon if nobody beats me to it.



Wooha, that would be nice! so I can finally commit some exotic 
error-documents to get successfully negotiated :-)

Thanks, Andre  Bill

Erik



Re: new download page

2002-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
Joshua Slive wrote:

http://httpd.apache.org/download.html

I believe this is better than the current circumstances because it is 
clearer for the users, and it better enables us to direct people to the 
mirrors for the download and the main site for the signatures.

I've never particularly like the autoindex/README/HEADER thing.  It is 
consfusing trying to figure out exactly what to download and there are 
notes scattered all over the place.  And it works very poorly on the 
mirrors, since many of them are not configured in exactly the same was 
as www.apache.org.

I will be changing the links on httpd.apache.org to point to this page 
instead of directly at http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/.  I'll wait a 
day for corrections and comments.

I believe this should go a long way towards reducing daedelus bandwidth 
usage for httpd downloads.  It will, of course, do nothing for 
jakarta/xml/etc.

Joshua.


+1. great idea, but I think the mirror sites should be mentioned more 
than only once. Perhaps an extra paragraph like the following would help:

Please do not download from www.apache.org. Please use a mirror site to 
help us save apache.org bandwidth. Go here to find your nearest mirror.[1]

Another Point are the official patches. IMO we should mention 
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/patches/ together with a little note: 
When we have patches to a minor bug or two, or features which we 
haven't yet included in a new release, we will put them in the patches 
subdirectory so people can get access to it before we roll another 
complete release.[1]

oh, btw the 2.0 paragraph praises 2.0.36 as the best available version 
instead of 2.0.43. The headline, the text and the check-for-patches-link 
are wrong.

cheers,
erik

[1] taken from http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/



Re: new download page

2002-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
Joshua Slive wrote:

Erik Abele wrote:



+1. great idea, but I think the mirror sites should be mentioned more
than only once. Perhaps an extra paragraph like the following would help:



If you look at the actual links, you'll see I'm pretty much forcing 
people to download from the mirrors.  I provide direct links only to the 
mirrors.  I do provide a link to the main site at the top, but I think 
most people will take the direct links.

Oh sorry, I didn't realize that. I only saw the pointers in the text. 
Well, then forget the extra paragraph, all this should be sufficient ;-)



Another Point are the official patches. IMO we should mention
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/patches/ together with a little note:
When we have patches to a minor bug or two, or features which we
haven't yet included in a new release, we will put them in the patches
subdirectory so people can get access to it before we roll another
complete release.[1]


Perhaps a short note in the top section.  But there is rarely anything 
interesting in the patches directory.


That is, what I thought of... Isn't the above note short enough?


oh, btw the 2.0 paragraph praises 2.0.36 as the best available version
instead of 2.0.43. The headline, the text and the check-for-patches-link
are wrong.




Yep, thanks, I copied my text from a non-updated version of the 
dist/README.html.  I'll fix that.

Joshua.


erik







[PATCH] (X)HTML-ouput in proxy_util.c

2002-08-25 Thread Erik Abele

While browsing through the source I discovered a place in
proxy_util.c (line 612), where the output isn't XHTMLized so far.

Since all other server-generated output and the error documents are 
valid XHTML, I think
we should change this too. Attached a patch for review please. Are there 
any objections to not apply this? I don't think so...:-)

Erik




Re: [PATCH] (X)HTML-ouput in proxy_util.c

2002-08-25 Thread Erik Abele

   Erik Abele wrote:
  
   While browsing through the source I discovered a place in
   proxy_util.c (line 612), where the output isn't XHTMLized so far.
  
   Since all other server-generated output and the error documents are
   valid XHTML, I think
   we should change this too. Attached a patch for review please. Are
   there any objections to not apply this? I don't think so...:-)

wuups, sorry, I forgot to attach the patch :-)

Erik


Index: proxy_util.c
===
RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-2.0/modules/proxy/proxy_util.c,v
retrieving revision 1.97
diff -u -r1.97 proxy_util.c
--- proxy_util.c15 Jul 2002 08:05:10 -  1.97
+++ proxy_util.c25 Aug 2002 14:07:36 -
 -612,13 +612,13 
 apr_table_setn(r-notes, error-notes,
apr_pstrcat(r-pool, 
The proxy server could not handle the request 
-   EMA HREF=\, ap_escape_uri(r-pool, r-uri),
+   ema href=\, ap_escape_uri(r-pool, r-uri),
\, ap_escape_html(r-pool, r-method),
nbsp;, 
-   ap_escape_html(r-pool, r-uri), /A/EM.P\n
-   Reason: STRONG,
+   ap_escape_html(r-pool, r-uri), /a/em.p\n
+   Reason: strong,
ap_escape_html(r-pool, message), 
-   /STRONG, NULL));
+   /strong/p, NULL));
 
 /* Allow error-notes string to be printed by ap_send_error_response() */
 apr_table_setn(r-notes, verbose-error-to, apr_pstrdup(r-pool, *));




Re: [PATCH] XHTML1.1 Error-Docs

2002-07-11 Thread Erik Abele

Hi Joshua.

 Thanks!  I commited your patch with the sole change that I removed the
 meta-content-type header, which is just bad news in my opinion.

I'm a little bit unsure about the meta-content-type header: the XHTML 1.0
specification (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/) recommends to use both methods
to define the content-type on existing/older user agents.

an extract of REC-xhtml1-2126 follows:

=== Snip 

Appendix C. HTML Compatibility Guidelines

This appendix is informative.

This appendix summarizes design guidelines for authors who wish their XHTML
documents to render on existing HTML user agents

...

C.9 Character Encoding

To specify a character encoding in the document, use both the encoding
attribute specification on the xml declaration (e.g. ?xml version=1.0
encoding=EUC-JP?) and a meta http-equiv statement (e.g. meta
http-equiv=Content-type content='text/html; charset=EUC-JP' /). The
value of the encoding attribute of the xml processing instruction takes
precedence.

=== Snip 

Maybe we should put the meta-header in again ?

 
 By the way, a repost on the docs list would have been just as effective.
 

whuups, thanks...I was unsure were to put this topic; sorry for that :-)

regards,
erik