Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 24.04.2016 um 15:22 schrieb sebb:

On 24 April 2016 at 14:12, Felix Schumacher
 wrote:


Am 24. April 2016 14:34:46 MESZ, schrieb sebb :

On 23 April 2016 at 20:34, Felix Schumacher
 wrote:


Am 22. April 2016 01:07:45 MESZ, schrieb sebb :

On 21 April 2016 at 21:27, Felix Schumacher
 wrote:

Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:



On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:

Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:

Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the

content

div,

where only small buttons are shown for the various social

media

sides

(like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an

implementation

could be seen on heise.de.

+1

I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html

The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have

to

be

constructed using javascript.

I have uploaded a new version,



I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not

sure

too

that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to
mailing-list page)
I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail

button.

Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.

Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure,

whether I

like it, so will not commit it.

That's great.

I think we can now delete the social hub menu section.

BTW, the Apachecon icon top right seems to be truncated on the right.
Could not work out what the problem is - any ideas?

The ad is inside an iframe. We can't control the css/style of the

elements inside that iframe.

That's not strictly true; if necessary the html for the contents could
be adjusted.
However this would have to be done in a way that did not affect other
users.

Well, at least I haven't found a way to influence the style of any element 
inside an iframe from the outside - which is the jmeter page. If you know of 
such a way, please let me know.

If you mean that 'we' as the asf can influence the iframe by changing the ad, 
than that is of course possible.

Yes, the ad is here

http://www.apache.org/ads/bannerbar.html

This is under the control of the ASF.
I have setup a comparison for you under 
http://internetallee.de/~felix/ads-test/index.html


On that page the ad is inserted twice. In the first one I have modified 
it, so that all margins and padding is removed for every element. The 
second one is the same as the original one with default margin, padding 
and style on the img element.


They are embedded in an div, which has a border to better show the - 
well - border.


The divs are 234x60px (as is the image in the ad). You can see, that the 
first one fits exactly, while the second one is too big for the div.


Regards,
 Felix




If you have suggestions for that, please advise.

For the latter case, I would think of would be good to remove any padding and 
margins from all the elements inside the iframe.

Felix

Those elements get the default values from the used browser, which

means, that the have a few paddings or margins. Therfore the ad is a
bit larger than the image it shows.

I have given the iframe a bit more space now and it seems to be

better.

Thanks.


Regards,
   Felix


Felix



Felix






where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit

the

stuff

later, if noone objects.

I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its

functionality has

moved to top of the content div.

Regards,
  Felix



Felix>The badges for github

I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks,

number

of stars" might be just dropped.


The question remains, where that badge should be placed.

Regards,
  Felix


Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[sebb]

On 24 April 2016 at 14:12, Felix Schumacher
 wrote:
>
>
> Am 24. April 2016 14:34:46 MESZ, schrieb sebb :
>>On 23 April 2016 at 20:34, Felix Schumacher
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 22. April 2016 01:07:45 MESZ, schrieb sebb :
On 21 April 2016 at 21:27, Felix Schumacher
 wrote:
> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>>
>> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:

 Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>
> Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:
>>
>> Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the
>>content
div,
>> where only small buttons are shown for the various social
>>media
sides
>> (like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an
implementation
>> could be seen on heise.de.
>>
>> +1
>
> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html
>
> The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have
>>to
be
> constructed using javascript.

 I have uploaded a new version,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not
>>sure
too
>>> that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to
>>> mailing-list page)
>>> I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail
>>button.
>>
>> Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.
>
> Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure,
whether I
> like it, so will not commit it.

That's great.

I think we can now delete the social hub menu section.

BTW, the Apachecon icon top right seems to be truncated on the right.
Could not work out what the problem is - any ideas?
>>>
>>> The ad is inside an iframe. We can't control the css/style of the
>>elements inside that iframe.
>>
>>That's not strictly true; if necessary the html for the contents could
>>be adjusted.
>>However this would have to be done in a way that did not affect other
>>users.
>
> Well, at least I haven't found a way to influence the style of any element 
> inside an iframe from the outside - which is the jmeter page. If you know of 
> such a way, please let me know.
>
> If you mean that 'we' as the asf can influence the iframe by changing the ad, 
> than that is of course possible.

Yes, the ad is here

http://www.apache.org/ads/bannerbar.html

This is under the control of the ASF.

>>
>>If you have suggestions for that, please advise.
>
> For the latter case, I would think of would be good to remove any padding and 
> margins from all the elements inside the iframe.
>
> Felix
>>
>>> Those elements get the default values from the used browser, which
>>means, that the have a few paddings or margins. Therfore the ad is a
>>bit larger than the image it shows.
>>>
>>> I have given the iframe a bit more space now and it seems to be
>>better.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Felix
>>>

> Felix
>
>
>>
>> Felix
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit
>>the
stuff
 later, if noone objects.

 I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its
functionality has
 moved to top of the content div.

 Regards,
  Felix
>
>
>> Felix>The badges for github
>>
>> I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks,
number
>> of stars" might be just dropped.
>
>
> The question remains, where that badge should be placed.
>
> Regards,
>  Felix
>>
>>
>> Vladimir
>
>


>>>
>>
>
>>>
>

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 24. April 2016 14:34:46 MESZ, schrieb sebb :
>On 23 April 2016 at 20:34, Felix Schumacher
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 22. April 2016 01:07:45 MESZ, schrieb sebb :
>>>On 21 April 2016 at 21:27, Felix Schumacher
>>> wrote:
 Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>
> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

 Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:
>
> Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the
>content
>>>div,
> where only small buttons are shown for the various social
>media
>>>sides
> (like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an
>>>implementation
> could be seen on heise.de.
>
> +1

 I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
 http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html

 The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have
>to
>>>be
 constructed using javascript.
>>>
>>> I have uploaded a new version,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not
>sure
>>>too
>> that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to
>> mailing-list page)
>> I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail
>button.
>
> Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.

 Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure,
>>>whether I
 like it, so will not commit it.
>>>
>>>That's great.
>>>
>>>I think we can now delete the social hub menu section.
>>>
>>>BTW, the Apachecon icon top right seems to be truncated on the right.
>>>Could not work out what the problem is - any ideas?
>>
>> The ad is inside an iframe. We can't control the css/style of the
>elements inside that iframe.
>
>That's not strictly true; if necessary the html for the contents could
>be adjusted.
>However this would have to be done in a way that did not affect other
>users.

Well, at least I haven't found a way to influence the style of any element 
inside an iframe from the outside - which is the jmeter page. If you know of 
such a way, please let me know. 

If you mean that 'we' as the asf can influence the iframe by changing the ad, 
than that is of course possible. 

>
>If you have suggestions for that, please advise.

For the latter case, I would think of would be good to remove any padding and 
margins from all the elements inside the iframe. 

Felix
>
>> Those elements get the default values from the used browser, which
>means, that the have a few paddings or margins. Therfore the ad is a
>bit larger than the image it shows.
>>
>> I have given the iframe a bit more space now and it seems to be
>better.
>
>Thanks.
>
>> Regards,
>>   Felix
>>
>>>
 Felix


>
> Felix
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit
>the
>>>stuff
>>> later, if noone objects.
>>>
>>> I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its
>>>functionality has
>>> moved to top of the content div.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Felix


> Felix>The badges for github
>
> I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks,
>>>number
> of stars" might be just dropped.


 The question remains, where that badge should be placed.

 Regards,
  Felix
>
>
> Vladimir


>>>
>>>
>>
>

>>

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[sebb]

On 23 April 2016 at 20:34, Felix Schumacher
 wrote:
>
>
> Am 22. April 2016 01:07:45 MESZ, schrieb sebb :
>>On 21 April 2016 at 21:27, Felix Schumacher
>> wrote:
>>> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

 Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:
>
>
>
> On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:
>>
>> Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>>>
>>> Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:

 Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content
>>div,
 where only small buttons are shown for the various social media
>>sides
 (like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an
>>implementation
 could be seen on heise.de.

 +1
>>>
>>> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
>>> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html
>>>
>>> The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to
>>be
>>> constructed using javascript.
>>
>> I have uploaded a new version,
>
>
>
> I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not sure
>>too
> that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to
> mailing-list page)
> I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail button.

 Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.
>>>
>>> Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure,
>>whether I
>>> like it, so will not commit it.
>>
>>That's great.
>>
>>I think we can now delete the social hub menu section.
>>
>>BTW, the Apachecon icon top right seems to be truncated on the right.
>>Could not work out what the problem is - any ideas?
>
> The ad is inside an iframe. We can't control the css/style of the elements 
> inside that iframe.

That's not strictly true; if necessary the html for the contents could
be adjusted.
However this would have to be done in a way that did not affect other users.

If you have suggestions for that, please advise.

> Those elements get the default values from the used browser, which means, 
> that the have a few paddings or margins. Therfore the ad is a bit larger than 
> the image it shows.
>
> I have given the iframe a bit more space now and it seems to be better.

Thanks.

> Regards,
>   Felix
>
>>
>>> Felix
>>>
>>>

 Felix
>
>
>
>
>
>> where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit the
>>stuff
>> later, if noone objects.
>>
>> I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its
>>functionality has
>> moved to top of the content div.
>>
>> Regards,
>>  Felix
>>>
>>>
 Felix>The badges for github

 I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks,
>>number
 of stars" might be just dropped.
>>>
>>>
>>> The question remains, where that badge should be placed.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Felix


 Vladimir
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 22. April 2016 01:07:45 MESZ, schrieb sebb :
>On 21 April 2016 at 21:27, Felix Schumacher
> wrote:
>> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>>>
>>> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:



 On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:
>
> Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>>
>> Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:
>>>
>>> Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content
>div,
>>> where only small buttons are shown for the various social media
>sides
>>> (like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an
>implementation
>>> could be seen on heise.de.
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
>> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html
>>
>> The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to
>be
>> constructed using javascript.
>
> I have uploaded a new version,



 I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not sure
>too
 that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to
 mailing-list page)
 I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail button.
>>>
>>> Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.
>>
>> Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure,
>whether I
>> like it, so will not commit it.
>
>That's great.
>
>I think we can now delete the social hub menu section.
>
>BTW, the Apachecon icon top right seems to be truncated on the right.
>Could not work out what the problem is - any ideas?

The ad is inside an iframe. We can't control the css/style of the elements 
inside that iframe. Those elements get the default values from the used 
browser, which means, that the have a few paddings or margins. Therfore the ad 
is a bit larger than the image it shows. 

I have given the iframe a bit more space now and it seems to be better. 

Regards, 
  Felix 

>
>> Felix
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Felix





> where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit the
>stuff
> later, if noone objects.
>
> I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its
>functionality has
> moved to top of the content div.
>
> Regards,
>  Felix
>>
>>
>>> Felix>The badges for github
>>>
>>> I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks,
>number
>>> of stars" might be just dropped.
>>
>>
>> The question remains, where that badge should be placed.
>>
>> Regards,
>>  Felix
>>>
>>>
>>> Vladimir
>>
>>
>
>

>>>
>>

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[sebb]

On 21 April 2016 at 21:27, Felix Schumacher
 wrote:
> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>>
>> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:

 Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>
> Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:
>>
>> Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
>> where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
>> (like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
>> could be seen on heise.de.
>>
>> +1
>
> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html
>
> The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to be
> constructed using javascript.

 I have uploaded a new version,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not sure too
>>> that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to
>>> mailing-list page)
>>> I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail button.
>>
>> Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.
>
> Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure, whether I
> like it, so will not commit it.

That's great.

I think we can now delete the social hub menu section.

BTW, the Apachecon icon top right seems to be truncated on the right.
Could not work out what the problem is - any ideas?

> Felix
>
>
>>
>> Felix
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit the stuff
 later, if noone objects.

 I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its functionality has
 moved to top of the content div.

 Regards,
  Felix
>
>
>> Felix>The badges for github
>>
>> I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
>> of stars" might be just dropped.
>
>
> The question remains, where that badge should be placed.
>
> Regards,
>  Felix
>>
>>
>> Vladimir
>
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Philippe Mouawad]

I like it

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Felix Schumacher <
felix.schumac...@internetallee.de> wrote:

> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:
>
>> Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:
>>>
 Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

> Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:
>
>> Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
>> where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
>> (like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
>> could be seen on heise.de.
>>
>> +1
>>
> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html
>
> The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to be
> constructed using javascript.
>
 I have uploaded a new version,

>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not sure too
>>> that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to
>>> mailing-list page)
>>> I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail button.
>>>
>> Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.
>>
> Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure, whether
> I like it, so will not commit it.
>
> Felix
>
>
>
>> Felix
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit the stuff
 later, if noone objects.

 I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its functionality
 has moved to top of the content div.

 Regards,
  Felix

>
> Felix>The badges for github
>>
>> I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
>> of stars" might be just dropped.
>>
>
> The question remains, where that badge should be placed.
>
> Regards,
>  Felix
>
>>
>> Vladimir
>>
>
>


>>>
>>
>


-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 21.04.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:



On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:

Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:

Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
(like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
could be seen on heise.de.

+1
I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on 
http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html


The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to 
be constructed using javascript.
I have uploaded a new version, 



I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not sure 
too that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to 
mailing-list page)

I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail button.

Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.
Updated my test page to contain a github link, but I am not sure, 
whether I like it, so will not commit it.


Felix



Felix





where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit the 
stuff later, if noone objects.


I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its functionality 
has moved to top of the content div.


Regards,
 Felix



Felix>The badges for github

I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
of stars" might be just dropped.


The question remains, where that badge should be placed.

Regards,
 Felix


Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 21.04.2016 um 22:12 schrieb Milamber:



On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:

Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:

Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
(like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
could be seen on heise.de.

+1
I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on 
http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html


The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to be 
constructed using javascript.
I have uploaded a new version, 



I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not sure too 
that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to 
mailing-list page)

I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail button.

Have done it. We could probably add a github link there.

Felix





where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit the 
stuff later, if noone objects.


I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its functionality 
has moved to top of the content div.


Regards,
 Felix



Felix>The badges for github

I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
of stars" might be just dropped.


The question remains, where that badge should be placed.

Regards,
 Felix


Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Milamber]

On 21/04/2016 19:42, Felix Schumacher wrote:

Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:

Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
(like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
could be seen on heise.de.

+1
I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on 
http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html


The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to be 
constructed using javascript.
I have uploaded a new version, 



I'm not sure that the "Contact:" word need to be add, and not sure too 
that the "Mail" button is needed (isn't a "email", but a link to 
mailing-list page)

I thinks that will be better if we remove Contact: and Mail button.




where the links are filled in properly. I will probably commit the 
stuff later, if noone objects.


I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its functionality 
has moved to top of the content div.


Regards,
 Felix



Felix>The badges for github

I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
of stars" might be just dropped.


The question remains, where that badge should be placed.

Regards,
 Felix


Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 19.04.2016 um 21:25 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:

Felix> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
Felix> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html

As for me, star/fork/maven central buttons draw attention a little bit
too much: their colors are not in line with the page.

What if we have just "fork me on github" ribbon
(https://github.com/blog/273-github-ribbons) on the main page.
maven, CI badges should probably be moved to readme.MD (that is the
page that is displayed at github).

I think that badge is pretty big, too big in my eyes.


Any objections on converting readme -> readme.md?

If it is still readably in a text editor, I think it is a good idea.


Philippe>The badges are not big so I don't think it hurts

You are right, the badges are not big. However, their style is
different from all the other items on the page.

+1

Felix


Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 19.04.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Felix Schumacher:

Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:

Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
(like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
could be seen on heise.de.

+1
I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on 
http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html


The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to be 
constructed using javascript.
I have uploaded a new version, where the links are filled in properly. I 
will probably commit the stuff later, if noone objects.


I removed the twitter button in the navigation, as its functionality has 
moved to top of the content div.


Regards,
 Felix



Felix>The badges for github

I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
of stars" might be just dropped.


The question remains, where that badge should be placed.

Regards,
 Felix


Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Milamber]

On 19/04/2016 20:36, Felix Schumacher wrote:

Am 17.04.2016 um 13:04 schrieb Milamber:

Hello,

In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on 
my computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with 
Edge, IE, FF)


On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you 
know why ? (@Felix?)
I think I know why. I have committed a different solution for the 
problem with r1739987


Could you check, whether it is OK on your test browsers?



That's works fine with your change. Thanks.





Thanks,
 Felix



http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html

Thanks

Milamber

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 17.04.2016 um 13:04 schrieb Milamber:

Hello,

In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my 
computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge, 
IE, FF)


On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you 
know why ? (@Felix?)
I think I know why. I have committed a different solution for the 
problem with r1739987


Could you check, whether it is OK on your test browsers?

Thanks,
 Felix



http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html

Thanks

Milamber

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Philippe Mouawad]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Vladimir Sitnikov <
sitnikov.vladi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Felix> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
> Felix> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html
>
> As for me, star/fork/maven central buttons draw attention a little bit
> too much: their colors are not in line with the page.
>
> What if we have just "fork me on github" ribbon
> (https://github.com/blog/273-github-ribbons) on the main page.
> maven, CI badges should probably be moved to readme.MD (that is the
> page that is displayed at github).
>
I prefer to see badges on HomePage of JMeter.
ok for the ribbon


> Any objections on converting readme -> readme.md?
>
+1 for me

>
> Philippe>The badges are not big so I don't think it hurts
>
> You are right, the badges are not big. However, their style is
> different from all the other items on the page.
>
It's a matter of taste. It does not hurt me and it provides interesting
info for developers (maven dependencies links)

>
> Vladimir
>

Provided we don't delay release for this, let's proceed with whatever suits
the majority
Regards

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Vladimir Sitnikov]

Felix> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
Felix> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html

As for me, star/fork/maven central buttons draw attention a little bit
too much: their colors are not in line with the page.

What if we have just "fork me on github" ribbon
(https://github.com/blog/273-github-ribbons) on the main page.
maven, CI badges should probably be moved to readme.MD (that is the
page that is displayed at github).

Any objections on converting readme -> readme.md?

Philippe>The badges are not big so I don't think it hurts

You are right, the badges are not big. However, their style is
different from all the other items on the page.

Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Philippe Mouawad]

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016, Felix Schumacher <
felix.schumac...@internetallee.de> wrote:

> Am 19.04.2016 um 19:40 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:
>
>> Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
>> where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
>> (like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
>> could be seen on heise.de.
>>
>> +1
>>
> I have done a simple setup for how it might look like on
> http://internetallee.de/~felix/jmeter/index.html
>
> The links at the bottom are not valid, they will probably have to be
> constructed using javascript.


It looks clean .
Thanks

>
> Felix>The badges for github
>>
>> I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
>> of stars" might be just dropped.
>>
>
> The question remains, where that badge should be placed.


I would personally keep:
- fork on github
- the badge showing maven artifacts
The badges are not big so I don't think it hurts

>
> Regards,
>  Felix
>
>>
>> Vladimir
>>
>
>

-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Vladimir Sitnikov]

Felix>I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div,
where only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides
(like twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation
could be seen on heise.de.

+1

Felix>The badges for github

I think just one github icon is enough, and "number of forks, number
of stars" might be just dropped.

Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 17.04.2016 um 15:16 schrieb Milamber:


I will commit my changes to reduce the size of the block.

We can continue to discuss to the better place for the Twitter button 
and/or the github/mc buttons, that isn't a blocker for the 3.0 release.


Perhaps, Felix can purpose later some variants of the home page with 
the buttons at several places to allow to decide the best place.
I thought of a social bar at the right side of the content div, where 
only small buttons are shown for the various social media sides (like 
twitter, g+ or facebook). A sample of such an implementation could be 
seen on heise.de.


The buttons on the top right side are links to the various social media 
sites. If you want to share the page, you will find links to do so at 
the bottom of each content site.


Those positions seem to be decent enough, not to disturb the visitor, 
while prominent enough, to be noticable. (Heise has even started a 
project (https://github.com/heiseonline/shariff) to include these 
buttons in a way that maximises the privacy of the visitor - not 
everyone wants facebook or twitter to know, which pages they have visited.)


The badges for github and co, are another story and I honestly don't 
have a clue, where to put them best.


Regards,
 Felix


(or better: have some web designer works to make a full re-lifting of 
the home page)



On 17/04/2016 13:39, Philippe Mouawad wrote:

+1 for me

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Milamber  wrote:


Like this?

http://i.imgur.com/lleLPE6.png




On 17/04/2016 13:12, Philippe Mouawad wrote:


On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Milamber  wrote:

Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very 
useful I

thinks), and use the small follow button.

Why not

Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)
I don't share this. For me we need to encourage forking which will 
result

in more contribution.

And move github star and maven central version on the same line.

We did it on purpose to encourage social coding.

The results is:

http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png

Better? I commit the changes?


-1 except for little tweet button.




On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:

Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.

Seems to me that these are too prominent.

On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:

Hello,
In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling 
on my
computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with 
Edge,

IE,
FF)

On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do 
you

know
why ? (@Felix?)

http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html

Thanks

Milamber

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Vladimir Sitnikov]

Milamber>Like this?
Milamber>http://i.imgur.com/lleLPE6.png

I think just "follow @ApacheJMeter" and "fork me on github" (e.g like
in [1]) are enough.
star/forks/maven central badges clutter the menu.

[1]: https://github.com/apache/jmeter

Vladimir

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Milamber]

I will commit my changes to reduce the size of the block.

We can continue to discuss to the better place for the Twitter button 
and/or the github/mc buttons, that isn't a blocker for the 3.0 release.


Perhaps, Felix can purpose later some variants of the home page with the 
buttons at several places to allow to decide the best place.


(or better: have some web designer works to make a full re-lifting of 
the home page)



On 17/04/2016 13:39, Philippe Mouawad wrote:

+1 for me

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Milamber  wrote:


Like this?

http://i.imgur.com/lleLPE6.png




On 17/04/2016 13:12, Philippe Mouawad wrote:


On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Milamber  wrote:

Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very useful I

thinks), and use the small follow button.

Why not

Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)

I don't share this. For me we need to encourage forking which will result

in more contribution.

And move github star and maven central version on the same line.

We did it on purpose to encourage social coding.

The results is:

http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png

Better? I commit the changes?


-1 except for little tweet button.




On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:

Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.

Seems to me that these are too prominent.

On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:

Hello,

In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge,
IE,
FF)

On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you
know
why ? (@Felix?)

http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html

Thanks

Milamber

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Philippe Mouawad]

+1 for me

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Milamber  wrote:

>
> Like this?
>
> http://i.imgur.com/lleLPE6.png
>
>
>
>
> On 17/04/2016 13:12, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Milamber  wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very useful I
>>> thinks), and use the small follow button.
>>>
>>> Why not
>>
>> Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)
>>>
>>> I don't share this. For me we need to encourage forking which will result
>> in more contribution.
>>
>> And move github star and maven central version on the same line.
>>>
>>> We did it on purpose to encourage social coding.
>>
>> The results is:
>>> http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png
>>>
>>> Better? I commit the changes?
>>>
>>
>> -1 except for little tweet button.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.

 Seems to me that these are too prominent.

 On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:

 Hello,
>
> In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
> computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge,
> IE,
> FF)
>
> On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you
> know
> why ? (@Felix?)
>
> http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html
>
> Thanks
>
> Milamber
>
>
>>
>


-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Milamber]

Like this?

http://i.imgur.com/lleLPE6.png



On 17/04/2016 13:12, Philippe Mouawad wrote:

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Milamber  wrote:


Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very useful I
thinks), and use the small follow button.


Why not


Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)


I don't share this. For me we need to encourage forking which will result
in more contribution.


And move github star and maven central version on the same line.


We did it on purpose to encourage social coding.


The results is:
http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png

Better? I commit the changes?


-1 except for little tweet button.





On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:


Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.

Seems to me that these are too prominent.

On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:


Hello,

In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge, IE,
FF)

On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you know
why ? (@Felix?)

http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html

Thanks

Milamber

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[sebb]

On 17 April 2016 at 13:25, Philippe Mouawad  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Andrey Pokhilko  wrote:
>
>> IMO, this block is first thing the eye finds while you look at the page.
>>
> Yes it was "intended" :-) but I agree twitter is too much.
>
> Github is an important way to get community involvement, in the last months
> the number of PR increased importantly. We need to let more user know about
> our mirror and the way to contribute. So for me the badges must be there.
> It is also important to show that project is "modern" with integrated CI
> through travisCI for example.
>

But is it the most important aspect of the menu?

I think not.

>
>
>
>> I think we'd rather drive people attention to something like quick
>> downloads/documentation access.
>>
> Those are easily found IMO

Yes, but are there's plenty of other more deserving causes.

>>
>> I like the badges, it's good and modern to show them, but not as
>> heaviest CTA on the page. I'd put the badges into page header, into top
>> right corner.
>
>
> They were there previously.

Yes, I much preferred that.

>
>> Or as the most bottom block of the sidebar.
>>
> Bottom for me means invisible so useless.

So as it stands, the "Community" and "Foundation" sections of the menu
are 'useless' ?

>  For me they must be above the
> floating line and at the bottom of sidebar they are under it, you need to
> scroll to see them.

But you cannot have everything 'above the line' without a big redesign

>
>>
>> With twitter links, I'd either move them into "community" block, or at
>> the most bottom of sidebar.
>>
> Same remark as above.

I agree that they fit naturally with the Community section.

>
>>
>> Andrey Pokhilko
>>
>> On 04/17/2016 02:59 PM, Milamber wrote:
>> >
>> > Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very
>> > useful I thinks), and use the small follow button.
>> >
>> > Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)
>> >
>> > And move github star and maven central version on the same line.
>> >
>> > The results is:
>> > http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png
>> >
>> > Better? I commit the changes?

Definitely better, but still too prominent for me.

>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:
>> >> Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.
>> >>
>> >> Seems to me that these are too prominent.
>> >>
>> >> On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
>> >>> computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with
>> >>> Edge, IE,
>> >>> FF)
>> >>>
>> >>> On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you
>> >>> know
>> >>> why ? (@Felix?)
>> >>>
>> >>> http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Milamber
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Philippe Mouawad]

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Andrey Pokhilko  wrote:

> IMO, this block is first thing the eye finds while you look at the page.
>
Yes it was "intended" :-) but I agree twitter is too much.

Github is an important way to get community involvement, in the last months
the number of PR increased importantly. We need to let more user know about
our mirror and the way to contribute. So for me the badges must be there.
It is also important to show that project is "modern" with integrated CI
through travisCI for example.





> I think we'd rather drive people attention to something like quick
> downloads/documentation access.
>
Those are easily found IMO

>
> I like the badges, it's good and modern to show them, but not as
> heaviest CTA on the page. I'd put the badges into page header, into top
> right corner.


They were there previously.


> Or as the most bottom block of the sidebar.
>
Bottom for me means invisible so useless.  For me they must be above the
floating line and at the bottom of sidebar they are under it, you need to
scroll to see them.


>
> With twitter links, I'd either move them into "community" block, or at
> the most bottom of sidebar.
>
Same remark as above.


>
> Andrey Pokhilko
>
> On 04/17/2016 02:59 PM, Milamber wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very
> > useful I thinks), and use the small follow button.
> >
> > Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)
> >
> > And move github star and maven central version on the same line.
> >
> > The results is:
> > http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png
> >
> > Better? I commit the changes?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:
> >> Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.
> >>
> >> Seems to me that these are too prominent.
> >>
> >> On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
> >>> computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with
> >>> Edge, IE,
> >>> FF)
> >>>
> >>> On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you
> >>> know
> >>> why ? (@Felix?)
> >>>
> >>> http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Milamber
> >
>
>


-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Andrey Pokhilko]

IMO, this block is first thing the eye finds while you look at the page.
I think we'd rather drive people attention to something like quick
downloads/documentation access.

I like the badges, it's good and modern to show them, but not as
heaviest CTA on the page. I'd put the badges into page header, into top
right corner. Or as the most bottom block of the sidebar.   

With twitter links, I'd either move them into "community" block, or at
the most bottom of sidebar.

Andrey Pokhilko

On 04/17/2016 02:59 PM, Milamber wrote:
>
> Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very
> useful I thinks), and use the small follow button.
>
> Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)
>
> And move github star and maven central version on the same line.
>
> The results is:
> http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png
>
> Better? I commit the changes?
>
>
>
> On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:
>> Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.
>>
>> Seems to me that these are too prominent.
>>
>> On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
>>> computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with
>>> Edge, IE,
>>> FF)
>>>
>>> On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you
>>> know
>>> why ? (@Felix?)
>>>
>>> http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Milamber
>

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Milamber]

Perhaps, we can remove the Tweet about the page button (not very useful 
I thinks), and use the small follow button.


Remove the Fork number on github (useful?)

And move github star and maven central version on the same line.

The results is:
http://i.imgur.com/L4eXNqp.png

Better? I commit the changes?



On 17/04/2016 12:15, sebb wrote:

Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.

Seems to me that these are too prominent.

On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:

Hello,

In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge, IE,
FF)

On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you know
why ? (@Felix?)

http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html

Thanks

Milamber

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 17. April 2016 13:17:55 MESZ, schrieb Milamber :
>
>I think I've found: in new-style.css, if I reduce from 100% to 95% the 
>.header.width, the horizontal scrolling disappear. I will commit the
>change.

I think that will be ok. 

Felix
>
>
>
>On 17/04/2016 12:04, Milamber wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on
>my 
>> computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge,
>
>> IE, FF)
>>
>> On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you 
>> know why ? (@Felix?)
>>
>> http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Milamber
>>

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[Felix Schumacher]

Am 17. April 2016 13:04:29 MESZ, schrieb Milamber :
>Hello,
>
>In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my 
>computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge, 
>IE, FF)
>
>On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you 
>know why ? (@Felix?)

Normally this is caused by am overlong word that disturbs line breaking. Usual 
suspects are class names.

I don't have a desktop near me, but the front page doesn't exhibit that 
scrolling behavior on my mobile. 

Regards, 
Felix 

>
>http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html
>
>Thanks
>
>Milamber

Re: New website: horizontal scrolling?

[sebb]

Also, I've just noticed the new placement of the Twitter etc links.

Seems to me that these are too prominent.

On 17 April 2016 at 12:04, Milamber  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the next website (3.0), all pages have a horizontal scrolling on my
> computer with Firefox or Chrome (and same issue on Windows with Edge, IE,
> FF)
>
> On the current website, the horizontal scrolling don't exist. Do you know
> why ? (@Felix?)
>
> http://home.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-3.0RC1/docs/index.html
>
> Thanks
>
> Milamber