[marketing-dev] Fwd: Re: Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community
Resent with the right address, sorry again for the moderators of the list. Original Message Subject: Re: [marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:35:50 +0300 From: Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Hi Khirano, On 27/05/2011 01:50, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Sophie, Thanks for your explanation. So TDF didn't change its mission but it added the LIbreOffice Community to its mission. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/JA/Main_Page The Document Foundation is the community, whatever the product. LibreOffice is the product currently developed by the foundation but that could be xyz products owned or hosted by the Foundation. So there is nothing to change in the wording, the roots are still the OpenOffice.org project, the product TDF currently is LibreOffice. See it as the Mozilla Foundation if you want, you belong to the Mozilla Foundation whatever you work on Firefox, Drumbeat, SUMO, etc, it's only one community. Kind regards Sophie -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community
Hi Florian, all, On 25/05/2011 17:00, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 14.33: Thanks, Florian for the long message :-) But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word) presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides the obvious, that this is OOo-land, has to do with simply having a suitable forum for what is likely to be a protracted and contentious discussion, and that sort of thing calls out for neutrality. I also tend to think that having focused and if possible in-person meetings is immensely helpful. as the topic was raised on this public mailing list, and as it concerns the OpenOffice.org Community, I thought it is indeed the right approach to reply publically to the discussion. The question I raised was not rhetorical. I don't want to say take TDF as is, but I am open to feedback and criticism. If there is anything that needs to be changed or improved, any criticism that is justified, I definitely will not ignore it, but rather try to work on it and improve things. However, I will also take position to criticism that from my point of view is simply not justified, and I think, that combination is a good basis for a discussion. So, again, my question to all of the OpenOffice.org community: Is there any particular reason on why working together, jointly, united, is not possible? Is there any justified reason on why working under the umbrella of a different foundation, or even setting up another foundation in parallel, makes sense? I am open to discussion on any channel -- and although I think that the OpenOffice.org mailing lists are indeed the right channel to discuss the future of the OpenOffice.org community, I am happy to discuss on any other channel. Needless to say, I prefer openness and transparency, whereever possible. And of course, I'll support you in this discussion and completely second your point of view and your position here. In the same way, I would be happy to discuss further with the OpenOffice.org community what can be the best done to join both. Face to face meetings are of course an option, but it will exclude those who cannot participate, so why not initiate the discussion on the list here as I did? +1 Kind regards Sophie -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community
[resent and amended with the good address, my apologize to the moderators] Hi Alexandro, On 25/05/2011 23:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com mailto:merschm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alexandro, 2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org mailto:j...@openoffice.org: OOo is certainly not death and to a point we've seen more developers coming through in the project which have legitimate concerns about this community to keep working. This is not true and you know it. Can you name any new core developer which has started to work on the project in the last six months? I doubt it. Have a look at http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/cws-announce/archive/ The development has stopped, that's it what happens. Volker -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help Sorry Volker, I am talking about the 'es' project specifically. We have added some new people in the past few weeks. Also chatted with other developers that I hang out on IRC. Alexandro, please, fact and realty, you understand that after all what has been written and said about the Spanish speaking community we can't trust you any more or only backup what you says. We know that you are not representative of it and the we you are talking about is only a very very low group of people, that is not the Spanish speaking community at all. So until others from this Spanish speaking community at large (and I mean others) asserts what you're saying I (and we) take if for granted and won't caution it, sorry. Kind regards Sophie -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community
Hi Alexandro, On 25/05/2011 23:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com mailto:merschm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alexandro, 2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org mailto:j...@openoffice.org: OOo is certainly not death and to a point we've seen more developers coming through in the project which have legitimate concerns about this community to keep working. This is not true and you know it. Can you name any new core developer which has started to work on the project in the last six months? I doubt it. Have a look at http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/cws-announce/archive/ The development has stopped, that's it what happens. Volker -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org mailto:sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help Sorry Volker, I am talking about the 'es' project specifically. We have added some new people in the past few weeks. Also chatted with other developers that I hang out on IRC. Alexandro, please, fact and realty, you understand that after all what has been written and said about the Spanish speaking community we can't trust you any more or only backup your says. We know that you are not representative of it and the we you are talking about is only a very very low group of people, that is not the Spanish speaking community at all. So until others from this Spanish speaking community (and I mean others) asserts what you're saying I won't caution it, sorry. Kind regards Sophie -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help
Re: [marketing] Color
Hi Miroslav, Miroslav Mazel wrote: We've been discussing the omission of color pretty thoroughly since the OOo branding was changed, but it seems that it lead to... nothing. Is the lack of color in application icons and file icons final? Could we have an official vote on this? This is not final and if you want to follow/help on this, the discussions happen on the branding list brand...@marketing.openoffice.org There is a wiki page that should update what is being worked on http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative/Branding_Areas http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Application_Rebranding_-_Project_Home_Page I think this is a topic important enough to really pay attention to (especially now that we're nearing release), because it could really, really bring down the usability of OOo. As usual, we need the help of all here, if we want that things go well, there is a lot of work to achieve and the more hands the better. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo Marketing Stuffs for a local events here Togo (West Africa) [moved from ooocon-discuss]
Hi Nahmsath, Nahmsath YABOURI wrote: Sorry for this disturbance i may have caused here. I thought we were on d...@marketing.openoffice.org. I will advice accordingly next time. You're really welcome, you have done what is right to do and Jean-Baptiste Faure, lead of the FR project, is taking care of you now. It's the good way to do, don't be afraid. Kind regards, Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo Marketing Stuffs for a local events here Togo (West Africa) [moved from ooocon-discuss]
Hi Nahmsath, Nahmsath YABOURI wrote: Hi Florian, in which language do you need the materials? English? French will be the best, but English is Ok if it is what you have at the moment. So you should ask on the d...@fr.openoffice.org list. There is a French association which is supposed to support this kind of events in French speaking countries. I'm adding the list in CC, so they are aware of your request. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] status of the 2004 SWOT based recommendations
Hi Lars, all, I didn't check yet, but did/will you update the wiki page with all your findings? Or who will do it? I won't be able to work on it next weekend, but by the end of April I would like to review it and add my thoughts, but I think it will be easier if your review and others are on the wiki. Kind regards Sophie Lars Nooden wrote: On 03/31/2010 01:12 PM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: ... As start I created http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Smp_status_2010 for collecting a status of the recommendation done in 2004. O-W + The macro issue can move on to this decade by emphasizing support for scripting in python and javascript. A great many applications and systems use one or both. Chasing M$ junk is a waste of time because 1) the macros will have to be re-written anyway because of the hooks to M$ packages and platforms, 2) any picayune differences, real or perceived, can be used to dismiss the whole package, 3) by the time it is 1:1 bug-for-bug compatible tons of resources will have been wasted and it will be beyond old - the way to win the Red Queen's Race is not to enter, 4) python and javascript work *now* with existing skillsets. If an additional scripting language is needed, then Lua could be shortlisted for consideration. O + Clip art can be a way to reach out to various communities. It would make sense to try working with other ODF-based suites (e.g. Koffice) and existing art projects like OpenClipart and maybe even distros. + Documentation at OOo Authors should be seen as a marketing advantage and kept fresh. Many capabilities essential to large enterprises, such as digital signatures, are not widely known or adequately used. There are a number of print-on-demand shops that could be used as supplemental distribution channels and to provide income to the project. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] JA project starts twittering and you can see it on ja.openoffice.org
Hi Khirano, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi all, OpenOffice.org Japanese Language Project has started its official twitter[1]. Currently Japanese Language Project Lead, Maho Nakata, is twittering. You can see it on the top page of ja.openoffice.org[2]. It's a very good idea ! /me is a follower :-) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] marketing confcall in March
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, it's March already, and that means a new conference call is waiting. :-) I've set up a poll at http://doodle.com/h5f55szed89aa7ph and invite everyone to cast your vote for the preferred day. If nothing fits for you, please ping me and we might find another proposal. If possible, please cast several votes, so we have alternatives. I didn't add my name on Doodle because it's still to uncertain, but I may be in France and so will attend. Do we have an agenda yet? Thanks in advance. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote: Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Junge wrote on 2010-01-20 08.33: well that time slot is not too convenient for the APAC area. 1:00 AM in China, 2:00 AM in Japan, 3:00 AM in East-Australia and 5:00 AM in New Zealand. well, we had a public vote at http://www.doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=5p52mbss52maguib and not so many people from this area voted. It's not easy to fit all needs, but at least people need to vote and show their interest. Well among 13 people who voted there are 2 living in China (Dong Xiaohong and me), 1 in Japan (Kobayashi-san) and Graham is AFAIR from New Zealand. That' about 30%. Well, Graham doesn't seem to care about making calls in the middle of the night. Voting for majorities always poses the risk to exclude minorities. Due to the large number of time zones from U.S. West Coast to New Zealand a global phone conference will never work. Maybe it's better to have some regional sub-conferences. It's the same with Alexandro mentioning dialing in from several countries is not possible, therefore we need free dialin numbers worldwide. Apart from the money question, if I don't hear anything from these people, it's hard to take them into consideration :| I can recommend Jajah (http://jajah.com/) a Internet calling service. To join such a conference I would e.g. dial in to the German access point for less than 3 Euro-cent per minute. So, please spread the word and make everyone who might be interested aware! There's indeed a large number of long-term contributers on the addressed mailing lists. Would be interesting to get some of their points why they do not consider attending the phone conference. How can one attend when its country is not listed? :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Re: [pr] Re: [marketing] dial-in details for phone conference
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Sophie wrote on 2010-01-23 18.30: How can one attend when its country is not listed? :) where is your country missing? here: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Deutschland (HH): Deutschland (M): Österreich: Schweiz: U.S.A (L.A.): Frankreich (Paris): Niederlande : Italien (Rom): Italien (Mailand): UK: (TEST) Spanien: (TEST) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [...] Well actually I still have been contacing Ryan, the ex-west coast USA lead for shaping BizDev and developing further in the US. Last but not least we are forming the OOo USA NLC although still in very early stages with support from Drew Jensen from OOo DBA and OOo Forums, Ben Horst, and plan to get involved Anthony Long (East Coast Marcon) and others. That cannot be a NLC which can't be country dependant but a regional group I imagine ? I've seen the log of the meeting on the c...@list. Could you please next time use the #oooregional chanel whic seems more appropriate and post the date some time before so that we (I :) can attend as well ? Kind regards Sophie One of the goal was to have a representation in most of the american events including SCALE, OSCON, OLF, South East Linux Fest, etc. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing/USA/MeetingLog1 Maybe that all is available, but until then ... - 1 Regards, Cor -- Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org Cor Nouws - nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact - Community Council member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Sophie sgautier@free.fr wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [...] Well actually I still have been contacing Ryan, the ex-west coast USA lead for shaping BizDev and developing further in the US. Last but not least we are forming the OOo USA NLC although still in very early stages with support from Drew Jensen from OOo DBA and OOo Forums, Ben Horst, and plan to get involved Anthony Long (East Coast Marcon) and others. That cannot be a NLC which can't be country dependant but a regional group I imagine ? I've seen the log of the meeting on the c...@list. Could you please next time use the #oooregional chanel whic seems more appropriate and post the date some time before so that we (I :) can attend as well ? However does NLC handles regional? or which project handles these type of affairs? No, it should be independent, even if from now, most groups are derived from the NLC communities. Here is the page on the wiki http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Regional_Groups Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Hi Drew, Drew Jensen wrote: Sophie wrote: However does NLC handles regional? or which project handles these type of affairs? No, it should be independent, even if from now, most groups are derived from the NLC communities. Here is the page on the wiki http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Regional_Groups Sophie, Thank you, I updated the wiki page for a North American Group. Great, and welcome to this new group! It's good to see more and more of them :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?
Hi Florian, all, Florian Effenberger wrote: [...] Sorry to be so rude, but: Cancelling the OOoCons is not a tough decision, it is just the wrong decision, the very wrong decision - at least in my opinion. We should do *more* real life conferences, not less. You know how I like our meetings :) but the original posting from John was to reduce our carbon footprint, not to cancel the OOoCon. And I feel his request is something we should really think about (yes, I'm a grandma and want a world for my grandchildren ;). Adding more meeting even virtual won't reduce it. I like Peter idea to spare some carbon footprint during the year to preserve our face to face meeting and protect the environment. One thing I think we should really work out is to make our OOoCon much more available for people who cannot attend or even could choose to not attend to save carbon footprint. Makes it a choice could be also an alternative while providing a better attendance for those who are on the other side of the planet and do not have the ability to attend the OOoCon. Just some ideas. Kind regards Sophie Florian (and others with an interest) - what would you think about a conference in each region every year, a virtual con every year but 6 months after the Regional Conf, and a OOoCon every second year? No. I'm all for a OOoCon *every* year, definitely. We really should not change that. I see it's a lot of work, but in the past, it worked out very well. I have no problem with RegiCons and virtual conferences in *addition* to a *yearly* OpenOffice.org Conference. But dropping the conference every second year in favor of a virtual conference is really no choice to me. PS - Florian I apologise for calling you John before. I had just got off the phone to a friend named John and typed it into this email without thinking :) No problem ;) Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] o...@fosdem - general merchandising material - request for designs!!!
Hi all, Juergen Schmidt wrote: On 12/16/09 12:22 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Jens, * Jens Habermann schrieb: Hi! Here is the version with added text and rearranged positions. I avoided graphics overkill with the text and made it like the OOo logo. The center graphics is enough eyecandy. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:FOSDEM-Cubicles-3b.png What do you think of Be Part of It! as second line subtitle? (Be Part of IT - might be too much computer technology...) i would prefer i am part of it because it should be in relation to the person who is wearing the shirt. Yes, and the idea is also to sell them. So people buying them will become also part of the community by this action :) And Jens, thanks a lot for this visual, it's really good! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] o...@fosdem - general merchandising material - request for designs!!!
Hi Jens, all, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Jens, Jens Habermann schrieb: Hi! Here is another sketch: the O created from cubes symbolizing the community and parts of OOo connected each other. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:FOSDEM-Cubicles-2b.png If I imagine this image on a t-shirt in a larger scale (about half the width of the front), I'd prefer the logo above the cubes rather than below. Except of this, I like the positive and colorful impression of the design. I really like it also, the cubes means the codes construction, just like Lego pieces that you assemble, and the community who is building in a colorful wave. But the OpenOffice.org logo seems to be miss placed, something like not depending on the design. I don't know where to place it above or in the middle, left or right. I really don't know. Anyway, your design look great, thanks for it :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] 3.2 New Features page ready for translators
Hi John, John McCreesh wrote: I've been asked when the final version of the 3.2 New Features page will be ready for people wanting to do translations. I think most of the feedback is now in, and I will take a lot of persuasion to make any further edits to the version now at http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html Thanks a lot John for your hard work on this :) I'll prepare a French version next week. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] voice conferences
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, during OOoCon, the idea of voice/audio conferences have been mentioned several times, and I'd like to pick up two aspects. - Many large companies, including Sun, do have voice conferencing systems to invite partners to when doing three-party-calls. We don't have access to our own system. Is this a dire need for MarCons, have you ever needed a professional audioconferencing system? I've compiled a list of free services a while ago at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Phone_Conferences - any country not covered that is in need? We have some funding from the marketing project, and given time and technical expertise, we could set up our own system based on SIP and Asterisk, but before evaluating, I'd like to know if there is any need at all. We had, long time ago, this kind of conferences to organize the localization process. Rafaela was organizing them. I think it's quiet effective because reactions and decision are quickly made, but there are some difficulties: - depending on where you are located, the communication may be difficult. For l10n, I was in Africa and the conversation was made of holes and echo making it difficult to follow. It might be different with SIP, I don't know - language, it's more easy to read than to speak when you're not fluent with English and the different accents (mine for example is horrible ;) may complicate the comprehension. - We've also discovered that we have some lack of communication, (not only) in the marketing project. The idea during the marketing meeting was to have monthly audio conferences to keep everyone up to date. What do you think of it? I see some issues here - time and that some might be more convenient with using text-based IRC - but I'd like to open the discussion. From Mozilla I know they even do regular conference calls open for the press, so we might pick that one up... That's a good idea. I'm currently thinking of a mechanism to enhance the inter-project communication also. I think we could take advantage of a better communication between says l10n/QA/Documentation for example. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text
Hi Kay, Kay Koll wrote: Lars, I had created the prototype mid of August and had used content from the July newsletter. The newsletter archive nor the marketing list does not accept HTML emails. That is the reason that the integrated simple text version got archived. I do not have a public accessible web page to present the HTML newsletter. Just an idea: may be you can use the Announcements list for Marketing? It handles HTML, see an example here : http://fr.openoffice.org/servlets/NewsItemView?newsItemID=683 It also appears on your start page when you're logged in. And you have also the possibility to attach the link to the original article in the list see for example on the page linked above, click on See the original article : http://fr.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=25 Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] joining the marketing project
Hi Alexander, Alexander Matrunich wrote: Hello! I want to join the marketing project and would like to introduce myself. I am from Pskov, Russia; I'm a marketing researcher and also I conduct classes in sociology in local institute. My professional interests are at the intersection of social sciences and IT. I've started a pilot research aimed to find the image of office software suite in general and OpenOffice.org in particular. The subject of survey is the regular users without high level of the interest in IT. E.g. what does a user mean by words I've used OpenOffice for a period of time, but then I've installed normal office suite. What is the normality here, etc. The biggest (and accessible by researchers) organization In Pskov region what uses OpenOffice is Regional Administration (RA). There are 800 workstations, third of them are with OOo. I met with the cio of RA Yuri Kolesnikov and he allowed to conduct the survey among RA employees. I plan 2 stages of the survey. The first one is aimed to get the general picture how OpenOffice is used in RA. The first stage is conducted using interviewing of experts. The first expert became Mr.Kolesnikov. 3 interviews are collected now and I have some interesting information from them. The second stage is planed as quantitative questionnaire survey of RA's employees. Is this project interesting for the community? Are there any similar surveys in other regions? Just to add some information to what Graham and Gabriel said, their is or has been surveys conducted by the UX project, see here : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1 The next survey will be for product uninstallation. Their is also a user feedback program installed as an extension in OOo. May be you should also join the disc...@ux.openoffice.org mailing list and share your work here. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] 1. Open-Source-Treffen in Munich
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Sophie, This is a great initiative and I wish I would have been able attend (one day it will happen ;). We have a lot to share with other projects, and thanks a lot! Feel free to set up such an event if you want, I'm glad if we can spread the idea. :-) Thank you :) Do you have already plan something for the next time and the period of this next event? We have a website - www.opensourcetreffen.de - and will coordinate German-wide (maybe even Europe-wide ;-) events there. We also have a mailing list, but everything is in German at the moment. We plan to have the next event in Munich in September. As I can read German, I've subscribed to the list. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] 1. Open-Source-Treffen in Munich
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Alexandro, What topics where there discussed? was there any specific issues to tackle? Any resolution or result from the meeting? well, the meeting is mainly thought for getting touch with the user base and with other projects. I've received various questions - beginning from how does this and that work up to how will the Sun Oracle deal affect OOo: :-) This is a great initiative and I wish I would have been able attend (one day it will happen ;). We have a lot to share with other projects, and when I was lead of the FR project, I always asked the other projects how they were doing for topics like l10n or members contribution. We have had discussion together with Gnome, Mozilla, Debian, Wikimedia, etc. We have also shared several of our glossaries (KDE, Gnome, OOo). My idea was also to apply for an l10n workshop last year at Fosdem, together with Debian (Christian Perrier) and Mozilla (Pascal Chevrel), but we lack of time to achieve it. This is a great idea to meet with other communities, I hope that KDE E.V. could participate too on the next meetings. I saw a similar synergy during the GUAKADEMY (Guadec + Akademy) event in Canarias earlier this month. There are common issues like the freedesktop initiatives and other issues surrounding the Linux Desktop that are common to the Gnome and the KDE camps. I've invited all projects I know, but only three have been there (OOo, Mozilla, CAcert). Hopefully there will be more next time! Do you have already plan something for the next time and the period of this next event? Does the Mozilla group have an E.V. stablished in Germany, if they don't, how are they currently structured. IMHO not. They mainly work as association and foundation, and Carsten - the Mozilla guy I've set up the event - is a paid QA and marketing team meber from Mozilla. Just for information, there is an interesting job proposal at the Mozilla Foundation ;-) http://www.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/Job.aspx?c=qpX9Vfwav=1j=o19dVfw2 Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org - Wolfram|Alpha
Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I'm sure others are curious about how Wolfram Alpha digests a search entry like OpenOffice.org Almost 10 years ! ;) The HTML hierarchy is nice, so quite compared to the real activity :) Thanks for the link. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Article on French Gendarmerie and OSS
Hi, Just for information: http://www.osor.eu/news/fr-gendarmerie-saves-millions-with-open-desktop-and-web-applications Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Article on French Gendarmerie and OSS
Benjamin Horst wrote: Brilliant and well-written email, Lars! It made my day. +1 :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Google Summer of Code
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Anyone know if OOo is participating in this year Google Summer of Code? The program starts in March and ends in June. This in on the Community Council agenda for this evening meeting and more precisely an AI for Stefan. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi all, Still on the train back home, maybe it is too early for a balanced evaluation. Nevertheless, a small report from my side. Thank you for it! [...jumping to ideas...] One idea for improvement: our booth finished at 5 this afternoon. Most people had left … but still there were visitors, developers around. So maybe we can plan next year that some people stay longer (and maybe also arrive later). We will have even better coverage then. May be make some small collections of dev pages from the wiki, exported as pdf and print copies of them, because I brought the programming book written by L. Godard and B.Marcelly and a lot of people ask for it in another language than French (which is not the Fosdem language ;) I very much enjoyed – regards, +1 :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] 55 000 OpenOffice.org versions for students in France
Hi all, For information, 55 000 laptops will be distributed to students and teachers in one department of France (Oise). They will be prepared with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately they will be under Vista, but they have a lot of free educational resources on them. This operation is known as Ordi60 in France and we were waiting for the results since some time now. After USB Key in Ile de France (220 000), CDs in Auvergne (64 000), this is the third department to provide OOo to their students! An article in French can be found here http://www.silicon.fr/fr/news/2009/01/23/55_000_collegiens_equipes_d_un_ordinateur_portable_dans_l_oise_ Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] 55 000 OpenOffice.org versions for students in France
Hi Lars, Lars Noodén wrote: sophie wrote: For information, 55 000 laptops will be distributed to students and teachers in one department of France (Oise). They will be prepared with OpenOffice.org. Tremendous. Unfortunately they will be under Vista, but they have a lot of free educational resources on them. That part is an unmitigated disaster. I run into students all the time that got stuck with Vista on cheap-ass laptops. It causes no end of pain and disappointment for them. Eventually either they end up finding XP somewhere, something I don't condone either -- there is never a legit excuse to allow Windows -- or they eventually end up dual boot with Ubuntu or Fedora. I put the dual in quotes because once Linux is on there, MS Vista is seldom used -- it sucks to badly -- and eventually leaves the disk. I fully agree with you. Here are some quick fixes for the Vista problems that will improve the performance of OOo and other applications: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot http://apcmag.com/why_vistas_such_a_pain_to_dualboot.htm There might be French equivalents of the above links somewhere. With care, we can avoid the suckitude of Vista dragging down legitimate software. Thank you for the links, I'll keep them bookmarked. This operation is known as Ordi60 in France and we were waiting for the results since some time now. After USB Key in Ile de France (220 000), CDs in Auvergne (64 000), this is the third department to provide OOo to their students! I remember the announcement of the USB key project. What were the results? Great, there is a dedicated site where the Key is maintained, with forums, documentations and so on, see: http://www.campusb.fr/communaute/ I met the webmasters last year and they were very happy with the results. An article in French can be found here http://www.silicon.fr/fr/news/2009/01/23/55_000_collegiens_equipes_d_un_ordinateur_portable_dans_l_oise_ I've made a link from the Major OpenOffice.org Deployments wiki page, it may need correcting: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments#Europe Thank you! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: 55 000 OpenOffice.org versions for students in France
Hi Alan, Alan Lord (News) wrote: sophie wrote: Hi all, For information, 55 000 laptops will be distributed to students and teachers in one department of France (Oise). They will be prepared with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately they will be under Vista, but they have a lot of free educational resources on them. The OOo part of the story is great! Thanks Sophie. I've mentioned it on the UK's Open Source Schools project: http://opensourceschools.org.uk/french-example.html Thank you very much! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] [Fwd: [webmasters] NewNews]
Hi all, A proposal from one of our reader :) Kind regards Sophie ---BeginMessage--- Dear OpenOffice.org Webmasters, the weblinks in the news section of openoffice.org are somewhat outdated. Here is a short selection of newer articles on Openoffice: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/starting-stopping-and-connecting-openoffice-python http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/openofficeorg-many-views-impress http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html http://www.heise-online.co.uk/open/OpenOffice-s-UI-will-be-getting-a-refurb--/news/112130 Thank you Gerald ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] GNUnify 09
Hi all, The GNUnify'09 which will take place on February (14-15) has launched its CFP. It's open until the 22th of January, see: http://gnunify.in/09/ Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Oscon 2009
Hi all, Oscon 2009 will take place in July (20-24) and the CFP has been launched, see http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009 For information, I've applied for a conference session in emerging topics track. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Mozilla marketing brochure
Hi, eric.bachard wrote: Hi Igor, Igor Barzilai a écrit : Hello everybody ;) I’m not sure to understood everything about this discussion (my english is far to be perfect), but understood that there were needings about the OOo brochure. So feel free to join Education Proejct, an propose to discuss the content over there ( d...@education.openoffice.org should be perfect). Sorry, this is english. A year ago, with the help of the french doc list, I worked on the OOo brochure that have been placed here for the public : http://fr.openoffice.org/about-information.html To be honest about your document: I (but a lot off other people) discovered its existence after it has been created, without any announcement nor information, nor invitation to work with you (or it was well hidden on some list). And whatever people will say, you decide at then end, http://tinyurl.com/9qcnmk http://tinyurl.com/8xjnff Seeing the length of the threads on two different lists (d...@fr and d...@fr, may be it's enough to say that it has not been created without any announcement or coordination :( Igor is responsible for the marketing material in the FR project and has done a very good work in a fair manner with the brochures he has made, thanks a lot Igor for this work. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Mozilla marketing brochure
Hi, eric b wrote: Hi, Le 1 janv. 09 à 12:08, sophie a écrit : To be honest about your document: I (but a lot off other people) discovered its existence after it has been created, without any announcement nor information, nor invitation to work with you (or it was well hidden on some list). And whatever people will say, you decide at then end, http://tinyurl.com/9qcnmk http://tinyurl.com/8xjnff Seeing the length of the threads on two different lists (d...@fr and d...@fr, may be it's enough to say that it has not been created without any announcement or coordination :( I'll limit myself to the facts, and the threads you refer does confirm what I wrote: = Education Project people discovered the existence after the document has been created. Documentation list were there before, and you are invited to join it, this is where the FR project work for this material, simply follow what has been done previous your venue. The reason is very simple : it was discussed on an exotic list. Indeed, discuss about Education stuff on Documentation list does explain a lot why it was difficult for us (Education Project people) to discover the existence of the topic and provide feedback and opinions . Documentation list is not an exotic list, a lot of work have been done here for all kind of material and I hope this will not end because of bad considerations. And if I can, the thread were very important, *only once* we were aware. Yet another fact, who tends to proof the documentation list was not the right place ( we are forced to discuss the point over there ) You're not forced, just follow what has been done before you are involved somewhere, it's exactly the same for what is done here for any topics including education. Last, what does mean coordination when the topic is not discussed at the right place ? Even if people are informed of the existence of a mailing list, it does not mean they will subscribe, and we lose half of the contributors working like that = counterproductive again Most of the FR project contributors knows where things are happening and why they are happening here, please just read the topics of the lists, it's not only in that project that some work is done in a central place to not loose or disseminates energies. and has done a very good work in a fair manner with the brochures he has made, thanks a lot Igor for this work. Nobody does contest Igor's work: thanks a lot to him for his work. But the way you bypassed the Education project is simply counterproductive, because you do like if the Education Project was not there, what is obviously not the case :-) you mean me? I don't understand why it's a personal thing now? I've helped to create the Education project, if you remember well, so why should I want it to does not exist? this is really inconsistent. So, yet another time, I invite people interested to contribute to Education Project, for whatever, including e.g. improving the website, improving the Education Project wiki page , and so on ... , to join us, and start working with us: there is so much to do, and they are warmly welcome ! Education project should be transversal and not centric on itself, I really believe in what said Shankarshan, co-ordination is more of function of collaboration. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Mozilla marketing brochure
Hi Ian, ian.ly...@zmsl.com wrote: Education project should be transversal and not centric on itself, I really believe in what said Shankarshan, co-ordination is more of function of collaboration. Motivation of those that are committing work is also important otherwise there is a danger that they take their resources elsewhere. Collaboration is important but so is the freedom to provide appropriate leadership, recognition of work and the perception of equality. Fully agreed :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Mozilla marketing brochure
Hi all, Juergen Schmidt wrote: Hi Alexandro, do you aware of the flyers that we already have. I know the German community have one and we have prepared a developer, an education and i think a normal product flyer. I don't find it online at the moment but i will post the links when i have fond it. These flyers are really nice. They are here http://ui.openoffice.org/VisualDesign/OOo_flyerDev.html (sort of Stella area ;) Both have been translated in the NCL on several langues following Kay demands. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] FOSDEM: We need a T-Shirts slogan/design ...
Hi Juergen, all, Juergen Schmidt wrote: Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Juergen, *, Juergen Schmidt wrote (29-12-2008 10:12) Jacek has send me some new drafts and i have upload a new image in the wiki. I really like the new drafts, my favorite is number 5. Please take a look on it and send feedback to this list asap. Looks great. I like other designs as well, but am very happy with #5. I will contact a vendor to check costs for t-shirts and coffee mugs. Good. I'll as Jacqueline about the mugs she wanted to order. Otherwise we will have too much to drink ;-) i found a local vendor here in HH who can produce both t-shirts, mugs and more ;-) I will keep you informed when i know details ... Great, the #5 design is really good (thank you Jacek :). May be it will be easier if the vendor send the material directly to my address ? Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] FOSDEM: We need a T-Shirts slogan/design ...
Hi Juergen, all, Juergen Schmidt wrote: [...] yes, thanks for offering. We can discuss it when we know more details. By the way the other designs are nice as well, no. 5 is only my favorite ;-) Yes, other designs are great too, but my preference goes to the n° 5 as well :) I wish you a happy new year Thank you, and happy new year to you Juergen, and to all of you and yours! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] oo....@fosdem 2009
Hi Juergen, all Juergen Schmidt wrote: Hi Sophie, great news and good to know that you have already address the coffee question ;-) We still have T-Shirts that we have used last year. But i would like to have a OO.org 3 branded one if possible. The question is the design and i hope that somebody has really good idea. If we want a new designed cool T-Shirt we should address this soon to have enough time for production. Price should be ~3 Euro/T-Shirt or something like that and if remember it correctly. Depending on the number of colors and number of shirts. I will try to check it tomorrow. Like Cor and you, I like the design of the 3.0 splash screen. What else could be interesting for the booth? Do we have a banner or posters, something that could be seen from far? Posters could be for advertising UNO or anything about development that will make people stop at the booth. Some volunteer who can help us with a demo machine? Do we want a demo machine? I very much would like a demo of Smart Tags ;) I would suggest to collect all infos on the following Wiki page http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Confereces/FOSDEM/2009 The structure can be used for other events in a similar way and with the correct categories we can easy use dynamic page lists to collect all this stuff on the related parent pages ... Any comments??? For example: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Confereces/FOSDEM/2009 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Confereces/FOSDEM/2010 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Confereces/Fisl/2009 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Confereces/FOSSin/2009 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Confereces/JavaOne/2009 Good idea :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] oo....@fosdem 2009
Hi Juergen, all, I answered but on com@ instead of dev@ so here is the message I sent some days ago: -- Hi all, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: We now have secured 2 tables for Fosdem. We now need volunteers :-) Count me in, I know how to develop some good coffee respecting standard formats ;) and I'll take care to bring the coffee machine + coffee, cups, sugar, water, spoon, etc. I can also retrieve the merchandising stuff where you'll ship it and bring it to the booth. Kind regards Sophie --- Juergen Schmidt wrote: Hi, Louis has requested a DevRoom at FOSDEM 2009 (7-8 Feb. 2009, http://www.fosdem.org/2009/) and we should move now in the detail organization because the room is accepted. First collection of open todos - volunteers?? - budget (traveling, merchandising, etc.) - council -- based on the ideas that we have or that produce in the next days ;-) - program for the DevRoom - call for papers/workshop etc., maybe a lightning talk session - booth? I would say yes. -- some merchandising stuff, i would suggest a nice OO.org 3.0 T-Shirts, a CD/DVD with OO.org 3.x??, we need ideas for some other cool things. All this stuff should we give for free but we will ask for donations. That worked quite well last year, we got 650 Euro in 1,5 days. Or we take a small fee. -- we should also have something that we can put in the conference bags -- deadline for design - depends on last production date -- coffee machine - create a meeting point at the booth (maybe the booth will be again in front of the DevRoom as last year) -- demo workplace - design for a cool T-Shirt - deadline mid of December to have enough time for the production (i will check a vendor and cost - (will come back later) More ideas, comments?? Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org Forum in Spanish Opened
Hi Alexandro, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Congratulations! Same for me and long life to your forum! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] [Fwd: [webmasters] NewNews]
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Re: [marketing] A Lutèce d'Or for OOo
Hi Graham, Cor, Cor Nouws wrote: Graham lauder wrote (25-9-2008 0:28) On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 23:25 +0200, sophie wrote: OOo has received this evening a Lutèce d'or for the best foreign project in Open Source Software carried out :) (see here http://tinyurl.com/3u47uv). This award was given to Charles by the Minister Eric Besson (in charge with prospective, public policies and digital economy development). If you want to know what it looks like, it's here http://tinyurl.com/4eco7k Congratulations to all of you in the project ! A big congrats to the whole French team, Marketing and Localisation. You set a very high benchmark for the rest of us to follow. Very well done ++ Thank you very much ! A photo is now available here : http://www.journaldunet.com/solutions/acteurs/reportage/les-lutece-d-or-2008-sous-le-signe-de-l-international/openoffice-org-plebiscite-au-niveau-mondial.shtml Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] A Lutèce d'Or for OOo
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, OOo has received this evening a Lutèce d'or for the best foreign project in Open Source Software carried out :) (see here http://tinyurl.com/3u47uv). ...and you're blogged: http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/09/lutce-dor-for-openofficeorg.html Congratulations! :-) Thanks a lot Florian ! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] A Lutèce d'Or for OOo
Hi, OOo has received this evening a Lutèce d'or for the best foreign project in Open Source Software carried out :) (see here http://tinyurl.com/3u47uv). This award was given to Charles by the Minister Eric Besson (in charge with prospective, public policies and digital economy development). If you want to know what it looks like, it's here http://tinyurl.com/4eco7k Congratulations to all of you in the project ! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Detailed list of OO.o+TB cross promotion activities
Hi Kay, Kay Koll wrote: [...jumping to the parts...] Thank You Pages = * Adding TB+LG on the thank you pages * OO.o 3.0 thank you page http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920897 AI: KK This one is localized and we (l10n teams/NLC teams) review it for typos correction. If you provide us the text, we can provide you the translation * Registration thank you page http://registration.services.openoffice.org/OOo3.0Beta/thankyou.html AI: KK This one is English only OO.o Solution Page == * OpenOffice.org Solutions page (http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions) * Description could be improved AI: (?) FAQ pages * English FAQ - Update Outlook related FAQ questions http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/Does_OpenOffice.org_come_with_the_equivalent_of_Microsoft_Outlook%3F AI: KK * FAQ pages from other locals AI: ? Same as for the [update thank you] page, if you provide the text, we (l10n teams/NLC teams) will update our FAQ. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] [Fwd: [webmasters] NewNews]
Hi, For information Kind regards Sophie ---BeginMessage--- Hi! There's a tips article on OpenOffice.org at tomsguide.com: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/pictures-story/16-OpenOffice-tips.html Cheers, Dom ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Draft for the PDF of the 0.3 Feature Guide
Hi Khirano, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Sophie, Thanks for the Guide. It looks great! Thanks :) The cover says: -- New Functionalities Guide OpenOffice.org 3.1 Version 1.1 Sophie Gautier (c) 2008 -- OpenOffice.org 3.1 - OpenOffice.org 3.0? :) oups, me going to far ;-) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Draft for the PDF of the 0.3 Feature Guide
Hi Jean-Baptiste, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le Dimanche 27 Juillet 2008 19:40, sophie a écrit : Hi all, For information, a new version is available here : http://fr.openoffice.org/files/documents/67/4277/3.0_FG_1.1_EN.odt Hi Sophie :) In last snapshots the name of the author of a note does not appear anymore in contextual and dropdown menus. So screencopies in page 12 should be updated. Thanks for your feedback, I'll change the screen shots. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Draft for the PDF of the 0.3 Feature Guide
Hi all, You'll find here : http://fr.openoffice.org/files/documents/67/4277/3.0_FG_1.0_EN.odt the work in progress for the PDF version of the 3.0 Feature Guide. I've for the moment added all the functionalities that have been implemented between OOo2.0 and OOo3.0. Please if you see that some are missing don't hesitate to tell me (the issue, or the cws and the descritpion - thanks :) I'll add screenshots next week but I'll need help on Chart. The stars for the key features are not all there and need to be added too. Comments are welcome, as usual :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] [Fwd: [webmasters] Florida Linux Show 2009]
Hi all, Some of you may be interested by attending. Kind regards Sophie ---BeginMessage--- Hi, We at the Florida Linux Show 2009 wanted to see if OpenOffice.org would be interested in exhibiting at the Florida Linux Show 2009 at either the Jacksonville or Orlando conference. Both shows are business oriented and will have an Open Source theme. Last year's Jacksonville show had over 400 attendees, over 20 exhibitors, over 15 Official Major Sponsors and the Florida Linux Show 2008 appeared on over 900 websites, and had three sessions of eight speakers including Jon Maddog Hall and Rob Limo Miller. Video interview clips are still available on Linux.com. Based on the attendee survey, three words continued to resonate Awesome, Awesome, Awesome. We are going to build on our success from last year and we were hoping that you might be able to exhibit at the Florida Linux Show 2009 at either or both the Jacksonville show and or the Orlando show. The Jacksonville show is March 9th, same location, University of North Florida University Center. The Orlando show date is tentatively October 26th and several location in the Orlando area are being considered (I will email you the location once the selection process is complete). Both shows will have a Linux Open Source software theme, however, the Orlando show will also to talking a lot about Open Source Software Gaming Software. Please let me know as soon as possible if you plan to exhibit, because you will receive more media exposure the sooner you because a sponsor or exhibitor. If OpenSource.org could send a presenter he/she would be most welcome. All the Best, Rod Sharp, Director Florida Linux Show 2009 (Jacksonville Orlando) http://www.floridalinuxshow.com/ www.floridalinuxshow.com Telephone: 904-824-1140 Cell: 937-414-7571 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Official Media Sponsor: LinuxJournal ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Marketing Plan for the 3.0
Hi all, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Louis, No responses here... and 3.0 is getting closer. I see and I fear... not many helpers. :-( Currently I work on getting a CI/design for 3.0 (see my mail to project_leads), and we have Erwin's feature compilation. The latter needs to be updated, we should link to the Presenter Screen extension as this is available now. Yes, there is still some nice features to add. Hope we at least find some people to work jointly on this - one man can't get this all up and running. :-) Once the localization is over, I'll be able to help more and prepare a pdf guide like the one we had for 2.0 Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org interviews
Hi all, Alexandro Colorado wrote: During a free software event in Coatzacoalcos we got several press exposure on Free software movement. I was quoted but there was no print mention of OpenOffice.org unfortunately however there are recorded video interview for the public broadcast were there is definetly mention of OpenOffice.org ;) May be we should mention all this on the wiki to keep trace of what is happening in our communities :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] [Fwd: [webmasters] OO article]
Hi all, This one is for you :) Kind regards Sophie ---BeginMessage--- Dear Webmasters, I've written an article discussing OpenOffice.org on JavaWorld. http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-05-2008/jw-05-spreadsheets.html Do you think a link to it should be put somewhere in the news or anywhere on the site? I will also post it to the oooforum.org Thanks, Oleg ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] [Fwd: [webmasters] Link to ODF incorrect]
Hi, The link pointing to the ODF document on the page http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/featurelistbeta.html seems to be wrong, could you correct it please? Thanks :) Kind regards Sophie ---BeginMessage--- Hey, The link to the ODF, under the ODF 1.2 Support section on the OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Features page is incorrect. http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/featurelistbeta.html It currently points to -- http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc%3Cem%3Ehome.php?wg%3C/em%3Eabbrev=office Which gives a document not found error. -- Kedar ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] [Fwd: [webmasters] Great Job]
Hi all, Some compliments :) Kind regards Sophie ---BeginMessage--- To the web designers: Great Job! I was so impressed by the OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Features page. http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/featurelistbeta.html While OOo has always been a robust and capable project, the visual presentation previously had not represented the fact well. Your new efforts are a great improvement in so many ways. It makes the project look modern and does a good job of revealing its true stability. A suggested slight tweak would be to give a little more visual weight to the banner and some of the navigation headings. The single hue, light values look a little unsure of itself, perhaps temporary. Clint Alderman ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Release notes and other marketing materials ?
Hi Erwin, Erwin Tenhumberg a écrit : Hi all, I have started a wiki page for collecting content for the OpenOffice.org 3.0 feature list page that I talked about before: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_3.0_Feature_List I'll add descriptions and more screen shots over the next few days, but I'd like to invite everybody to contribute to the wiki page as well! Reviewing the list, I don't see Smart Tags mentioned, however they are already in place, but may be there is no extension yet ? Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] A new OOo brochure
Hi all, Rj ian Sevilla wrote: Any English version? ill try to translate it to tagalog... :) English version is uploaded here http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88390 I'll work on the read-me file later. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] A new OOo brochure
Hi all, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Igor, Recently implicated in the OOo french community I started to work on a new brochure. again, thanks a lot for developing this new flyer! It would be very helpful if you could translate the most important parts at least into rough English, so others could work on it as well. Yes, thanks a lot Igor for your work. I'll provide an English translation during the next week. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws wrote: [...] However, I plan a day in week 9. But If you have finished by then, its OK for me ;-) I'm not able to join you at your e-mail address that bounces every time. Have you another address I can send you the doc to ? Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes
Hi all, Cor Nouws wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote (15-2-2008 11:40) Hi Erwin, O.k., I took a very first stab at the release notes for OpenOffice.org 2.4 by moving content from the Feature Freeze Testing 2.4 wiki page to the following page: thanks a lot, this looks brilliant! I wanted to come up with a draft the next days as well, but you've been faster. :-) Yes, fine. After this one: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=26198 I've been able to do some of the work, but not as much as I wanted. I've tried to contact Sophie yesterday, but no response yet. Maybe she's doing what I will do later this day: vacation ;-) I've been catch by the localization round ;) I've begin to work on the .odt document Cor has done and on Writer features. I'll send the document this evening to Cor, I don't know now if I should fill the wiki or the document so I go on with the first process. The screen shots are embedded in the Writer document, if you need them in a separated file, just tell me. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes
Hi Cor, all, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Sophie, all, sophie wrote (23-1-2008 16:57) Count me in. Just tell me the workflow you want to put in place (and the dead lines) and I'll follow it :) Wonderful, Sophie! Thanks. I tried to answer you yesterday but your mail bounced. Now I've done some work, to prepare co-operation. Especially with in mind 3.0 this year and above all two feature-releases a year, it is good to have a structure to make it easy for more users to help. I've created some pages in the Wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_releases_Info and http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features-How_to_add_Info Remarks and improvements welcome! This is good, thank you for the work. About the .odt document, do you think it's possible to format the pages in landscape style or will it break the export ? Also, I've noticed some activity on the new community forum: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49t=414#p3263 I think we can post a request there, somewhere next week, for people who want to lend a helping hand :-) So: pls look to the wiki pages, and see if it is OK, and where it can be done better. Of course, stating right away also is allowed ;-) I'm working on the wiki table right now and will begin to fill the Writer pages into the document. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Re: French National Gendarmery move to Linux
Hi Alan, Alan Lord wrote: sophie wrote: Hi all, I think this might be of interest ;-) http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080130/tc_afp/franceinternetpolice Kind regards Sophie http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/01/31/bonjour-open-source-au-revoir-microsoft/ Thanks a lot, I love the Hasta La Vista bebé ;-) I'm sure I'll have more to say during 2008, but we still have a big party to play before the end of February first. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] French National Gendarmery move to Linux
Hi all, I think this might be of interest ;-) http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080130/tc_afp/franceinternetpolice Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 2.4 release notes
Hi Cor, all Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Martin, Martin Hollmichel wrote (23-1-2008 14:10) some time ago we agreed that we need better Release notes (http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=releasesby=threadfrom=1919869). Wishes yes, but commitments ... [...] For 2.3 release I would like to see -A- http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features_2.3#New_Features_in_OpenOffice.org_2.3 and -B- http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features_2.3#Known_issues as the new release notes for 2.3. As an appendix to that we could use -C- the http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features_2.3#Full_list and the old release notes as a technical changelog document. A is fun to read, and has good promotional value, but hardly helps anyone using new features. B is important to know and C is what many users want. So IMHO it is definitely more than a change-log. For OOo 2.4 there is http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Testing_2.4 available but not yet something like http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features_2.4. I would like to have new Release Notes available with the first release candidate mid of February, will this be possible, is this doable ? As mentioned before, it is on my list. And I know I have to put it in my agenda as well. It's uncertain if I can find enough time for the whole job. But I will be able to make a start this week and see that I get some others involved. Then we have another three weeks left, so my guess is that it must be doable, expecting that I find some others to help. Even more: if one/some others is/are handy in making screenshots and placing them in the Wiki, the 2.3 version could even be improved. And thus it could mover from 'draft' to 'final' (didn't notice before that is was draft :-) ). Count me in. Just tell me the workflow you want to put in place (and the dead lines) and I'll follow it :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] IMPORTANT: Planned mailing list changes
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Charles, Thank you for cleaning these lists. May I suggest we keep proddev, a mailing list that sure is not active but that is supposed to be used for writing RFEs? you're welcome. I didn't have time earlier for doing this, but now the lists are on my todo. :-) Regarding proddev: Writing RFEs in what matter? Regarding the product code itself? Or regarding marketing stuff? If regarding product code, I guess it's totally misplaced at marketing.oo.o. :-) The idea behind proddev@ was to consolidate RFEs to make them real features (close duplicates, make RFEs consistent when they are related, etc...) For me this is a task between QA and UX more than Marketing. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] eliberatica.ro 2008
Hi all, The call for papers is open :) http://eliberatica.ro/2008/ I wish you all a wonderful and happy new year ! Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Official guide for Floss in French administrations
Hi all, Just for reference because it's in French, but the French administration has issued an official guide about open source software usage in administrations. It's here : http://www.synergies-publiques.fr/IMG/pdf/FAQ-LL-V1.0.pdf It has been written in partnership with FLOSS associations in France and some dpt of the French administration and officially validated by Juridic Direction of the Ministry of Finance. Roughly, it explains how administrations can use, participate and produce open source softwares, what licenses are involved and how, and how to request for FLOSS in competitive biddings or bid invitations. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OOo vs.OO.o
Florian Effenberger wrote: LOL :-) +1 :) Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Why page in other languages
Hi all, We have translated all the pages of the Why site, but how could we have them uploaded ? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Fr.openoffice.org/whyopenoffice.org Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Quoting John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? Here is a draft, developers, feel free to comment/contribute: http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.odg http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.pdf Thanks a lot, it's really great ! Would it be possible that we add a part on the extension project and another one on the ODF Toolkit ? May be it could be the back of your first page ? I think the extension project would be very attractive on the flyer. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Thanks in advance for your help Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi John, John McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I don't think it exists ok I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Do developers read flyers? Why not ? if it's sexy for them ;) Happy to get involved... thanks. However, I'm not the one who will be able to begin, you've always been the one who knows :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Info new release 2.3
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi *, Since OOo 2.3 is expected next week, it is time to prepare the news about new features. I answered you this morning on the release list, but strangely when I hit the reply button on some lists, this is my OOo alias adress that is selected and of course get moderated. (second strange thing is that Thunderbird didn't stock this sent message in the send directory :( However... Thanks for the great work you've made :-) Technical = = = = = With help from some people at the Netherlands-mailinglist, I've prepared info for the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/New_Features_2.3#Full_list (We made the Dutch and English version side by side and I used some nice OOoBasic to split.) Well, that looks rather 'not so nice', IMHO. But since I'm not yet Wiki-adict (that is about what's needed to be able to work with it, IMO :-) ) *I'll be happy to receive advice from others*. I think we should definitely find a template for those new features that allow users to print it and use it as a memo. Like Uwe said, our target are users, trainers and authors, so we should really simplify the task for them to learn the new features. Also, the odt, that I used, is available. I uses ODT2WIKI export filter, with some little changes afterwards. Furthermore, I'll add info on another Wiki page about steps involved to gather all this. And via [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope for more useful tips for next times. About the info = = = = = = = = Some features are really important to explain. Pavel already posted a reminder here about Ctrl-Click on links in documents. If the lay out of the Wiki is better, maybe it is also possible to mark those really-important-for-all-users issues? I spoke about AutoSum in the other mail. We could also add a link to some blogs that are describing and illustrating the features (like Thomas Benisch blog for AutoSum http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/improving_calc_usability_autosum) It could help a lot users to figure out how it works. Hints for features that need extra highlight, or about text/explanation that can be improved, very much appreciated! I've not gone through the all list yet, but will do and will give you feedback. Also, I think we should begin to work on the list much sooner because trainers and authors need it for their material. Thanks again to you and your community for the huge work. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Zonbu and OpenOffice.org
Hi all, Could one of our marketing leads tell them that our trademark is OpenOffice.org ? http://www.zonbu.com/learn/apps2.htm Thanks :) Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Extension site
Hi Kami, KAMI wrote: Hi! I would like to know how to stable the extension site from the point of extension submission. I plan to upload our OxygenOffice Extras as OpenOffice.org Extension packages. I have updated the kits so it uses near all features of OpenOffice.or 2.3 extension handling (versioning, identifiers, license text, readme, update (only client side this time)). Also there are several new and updated templates. I am uploading them to ooop.sf.net then I would like to create extension pages. Are there any limit to size of extension? Some of them is rather big: ~60MB I've download your extension packages OOOP-templates-unidied-fr-2.3.02.oxt and OOOP-templates-separated-fr-2.3.0.2.oxt. Double click on the last one installed it, but it doesn't appear on the GUI in m221. However, I had a look and see several improvements I can bring : typo correction, letter format instead A4, readme missing in french, etc... Where do I post the improvements I'll make ? do I open an issue under documentation component and what's your OOo login so I can make you the owner ? And may be we should discuss this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Including more templates in OOo
Hi Charles and Kami, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hi, An off list mail from Kami told me that he has been working for some time now on the set of templates that are included in Oxygen Office, I was not in copy of this mail but it arrives in English on the French lists. the bundle of OOo with goodies Kami maintains and that is hosted elsewhere for licensing reasons. Kami told me that he had spent quite some time collecting information on the authors and the licenses of these templates. I can imagine the work it could be. He would love to have some central repository for all these templates that are at the moment scattered all around the net, on different web sites. I, through the French association (and I think a few others) can offer some space to have all in one place. But the issue is, since the beginning, that Kami is working alone. Even if we (fr community) supported what he is doing, no way for us to collaborate. Even if we (fr community) supported the global scope, there is some rules (at least the French law) to respect, so no way for us to collaborate if it's not respected Even if we (fr community) have some resource to offer, things are going else where or off list, so, one more time, no way to collaborate. My answer is that OOo will soon have an extension repository like Firefox, and that users and volunteers will be able to upload their contributions there. As long as, respect of law, needs and collaboration are discussed together, I'm sure the community will be willing to help. Any questions? Problems you would like to discuss? How do I (and how do I help the FR community which is willing to contribute) help to contribute to this project taking into acount what I said above. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] OOo on the French TV
Hi all, OOo was on the French TV last Sunday on Direct-8 [1] (a Boloré group channel) aside Mozilla, Wikipedia and Aful (French LUG). You'll find it here : http://www.zdnet.fr/partenaires/8-fi/ But of course, it's in French ;-) [1] http://www.direct8.fr/emissions/huit_fi/fiche4669.html Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Promoting open source in education
Hi all, Ian Lynch wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 16:41 +, John McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 11:21 +, Ian Lynch wrote: [snip] What would be useful is versions of the documentation targeted on younger age groups. If at some point a version of OOo that had a user interface designed for young children - fewer and larger icons, default font that was large and the type script kids use to learn to read there would be a massive market since many of these use specialist tools other than MS Office for this in any case. None of this sounds particularly difficult to do: Tools-Options-OpenOffice.org-View-Scaling Tools-Options-OpenOffice.org-View-Icon View-Toolbars-Customise And then prepare some simple documentation with screenshots from this 'KidzOOo' Sounds like a good schools project to me? Indeed. I'll ask around and see if I can get some of the Gold INGOT kids to do it as a project. John (totally ignorant of the education market) Some things that seem simple can be more difficult. In essence we could certainly get part of the way to KidzOOo by the approach above but we could hit unforeseen snags that only a specialist in teaching little kids would spot (I'm more 11-18 age group). But its worth trying and if I can get some of the INGOT students doing it, at worst it raises their awareness that OOo exists. I just heard unofficially that the INGOT certificates are going to be approved for school use from April which means that schools will be a lot more willing to do Gold INGOT projects in mainstream time as the certificates will count towards a school's position in the national school league tables. We need older more able kids to do these sort of projects and while we have had a good take up of the Bronze and Silver they are not designed to support community projects just to build capability in getting to that point. Eventually we will do a Platinum INGOT suitable for university entrance and these projects will then realistically tackle coding and give more flexibility but that is probably a couple of years off. One thing I can suggest students do is contribute to learning materials for OOo, eg devise a Moodle course for using OOo Writer. Moodle has around 1 million teacher users who are not by any means all users of OOo so Moodle would be a good vector for OOo marketing since it at least has got the idea of Open Source to a lot of people. So contributing to the Moodle community and the OOo community is good for both. I've already work on such a version (I call it for myself KidOOo ;-), primary on playing with OOo registry and .xcu files. There is a lot you can achieve in customization once you've figured how it works. I'm still going on writing some documentations on it (in French atm). So if I can help, just tell me. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Please join (and spread the word): Community member's photos for poster
Hi all, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I'd be happy to post something to the homepage, too. I've sent it to our French contributors lists. Ans sorry for my first upload that was a really bad too fast click and click :( Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] [Fwd: Sun Announces ODF - Office Converter]
Hi Juergen, Laurent Godard wrote: HI the plugin use OpenOffice.org but a special minimized version of it. A similar version of this tiny OpenOffice.org will be used for a first ODF Toolkit as well because the modularization and refactoring will take some more time. thanks Juergen Yes, thanks, it's all clear for me now :-) I'm following the ODF Toolkit project, this is very interesting. Kind regards Sophie Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] [Fwd: Sun Announces ODF - Office Converter]
Hi all, Laurent Godard wrote: Hi Juergen it is interesting ;-) yes, a great use of OpenOffice.org technology is the source code free ? Reading Erwin's blog on Planete OOo and Malte last one on Gullfoss, I'm quite confused too. If it's on Planete and Gullfoss it's also for OOo or did I read it wrong? Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] EU report on FLOSS
Hi all, Not sure this have been mentionned, this is the report about FLOSS made by EU and its findings about the economical impact, the competitivity and innovation of Floss http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/ict/policy/doc/2006-11-20-flossimpact.pdf Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] free content open office educational material
Hi Catharina, Catharina Bethlehem wrote: We started building our open course project: http://www.open-of-course.org. Now we are looking for good and free content courses/tutorials on Open Office. In English as well as in other languages. In French, you'll find our documentation here : http://fr.openoffice.org/Documentation/Index.html You'll find also a lot of video tutorials here http://www.csdm.qc.ca/sitsat-mtl/openoffice/ If you are interested by distance learning tutorials, I have open sourced my professional material for beginners, advanced courses will be open sourced too but I didn't find the time to do so yet. Just tell me and I'll send you the links. Hope this helps Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Language Packs ( Was: openoffice apparel)
Hi Tony, Charles, Charles Schulz wrote: Hello Tony, Tony Pursell a écrit : Luckily, I do know where to get it from (en_GB), but I have come across more than one case where someone has complained at the lack of a 'British' English and had to be pointed in the right direction. Its one of a number of flavours of English that can only be implemented through the addition of a language pack. Other languages (Welsh, for instance, as I live in Wales) you can get as a complete OOo version in the required language (via the NLC's web pages). However, the add on language packs are very difficult to find, if you don't know about them. You are right. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly whom you should talk to or what you should do. Maybe check the WebSite team? (http://website.openoffice.org) There is another issue here: if the language packs hadn't been QA'ed it won't be distributed on the mirrors. This is what happened to the fr_FR language pack as well even if a lot of people use OOo in bilingual environment in French speaking countries. So please Tony, join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list to run the tests on your language so that it can be distributed on all the mirors and advertized in a better way. If you need help to run the tests or join the QA project, don't hesitate to ask. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] openoffice apparel
Hi Cor, all, Cor Nouws wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 10:49 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: I guess lack of time and appropriate experience are important factors? At the time I was exploring this it was more arguments about not having a bank account to put money in, not saying how the money would be spent and who controlled it, OK, thats a point that is to be discusses anyway, shortly. I remember some posts about it (Sophie?), so probably in Lyon. We (FR project) have one that is just starting on behalf of Cusoon http://oooboutique.manager-pro.com/ We have currently very few articles but more will come in September. Now, the argument of time is real. Claire Godard is managing it and it needs time to achieve all the process from the order to the invoice, the stock control, etc. what could and could not go on the main web site etc so I would say politics rather than time and experience. For one, time can be bought so if an initiative makes money, it can pay for itself. How much expertise do you need to organise printing T-shirts? Several people have already done this through Cafepress anyway. The process of deciding what to sell, what to be printed on it, to have it made ... it can be done very fast with a person on his own, just picking up what is on hand. With a group/community that takes some time and probably some have other, higher, expectations as well. Yes, it take some time (about half a year for us) and you should have the initial money to invest in the stock too. But the most important remain in finding people interested in doing the work :-) Nevertheless, I can't see any valid reason why OOo-merchandise shouldn't exist. May be you could check also with other NLC projects if other OOo-merchandise exist and how it goes :-) Kind regards Sophie To be honest, I don't have any interest now in trying to get this going, I wasted too much time on it in the past and I have other things that are taking almost 100% of my time now but I would encourage anyone else who has the energy to see if attitudes have changed. Can understand that. Maybe others have interest. Greetings, Cor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Dzongkha version of Debian
Hi all, Not sure this news has passed here : http://www.fr.debian.org/News/2006/20060719 It seems that they meet issues with OOo. Do you know if we are in contact with them ? Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Keep the car in French
Hi, Thanks to Cyprien Gay help, I finally manage to get the FR keep the car page online : http://fr.openoffice.org/keep_car-fr.html I'll add the Further reads links this evening Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Why do we need users ?
Hi all, I would like to open a new discussion based on some thoughts I had reading the thread about Chad site. The object of my message said all: why do we need users in a development project ? Or why are we trying to attract them before having a robust product. This community exist since 2000 (almost 6 years this month that it has been annonced :-) and our first release was in October 2002. I think you understand what I try to design : we need users even if the product is not reliable, they are our testers, they are our eyes on bugs, they are our feedback on functionality, the are our support when you're near to step down. Chad, you've missed this point, without those fervent users, no product could be develop. This is why advertising for another product, you take away some users who would be very helpful to our project. You take away a chance for our project to go faster. This not to say one is better than another, but being in a development project, you aim to support all its steps. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Taking an ad in NYC's free Metro newspaper
Hi Charles, all, Charles Schulz wrote: [...] Metro also exists here in France (Paris) although I don't have any contact with them. They really do have a big audience... We had an info in 20 minutes (last year I think), I'm going to write to Metro, it's a great idea :) For information we were on TV Friday for the main evening news : http://www.tv7bordeaux.fr/# and for an interview on the radio http://www.radiofrance.fr/chaines/france-bleu/?tag=gironde and at the Mollat book store for a talk http://tinyurl.com/gwadn on Saturday we gave a conference on the future of OOo and the stake of ODF file format at Enseirb http://www.enseirb.fr/Anglais/ Thanks to Abul for all these meetings :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Donating
Hi Jean, all Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Charles Schulz wrote: Jean Hollis Weber a écrit : eric b wrote: Since end 2005, I'm searching funds, hardware, developers (all are volunteers, and receive no money). Eric, please tell us how people who want to donate money to your Mac porting project can make a donation and be sure that it is going to your project. I know only one way to send money to OOo (by PayPal to TeamOpenOffice), but there is no way to know where the money goes from there. I can't speak for Eric; I think if you donate either to OpenOffice Team e.V or to the CUSOON (french OOo NPO) (URL: http://www.cusoo.org/spip/) that will do it. Yes, but for international Team e.V is better. I can't read French very well, so I was unable to find the answers to these questions on the CUSOON website: 1) Is there a way to donate to CUSOON that does not use PayPal? Yes the bank references are on line too 2) If someone donates to CUSOON, how does he know the money is going to the project he wants it to go to? This is published on the site. But from what I know, we never received donations directed to one project (only to special marketing expenses like banners or now to the OOoCon sponsoring). I already know that TeamOpenOffice e.V does not make its accounts public, so there is no way to know if money sent to them is going where one wants it to goo. It's only a time issue in fact. We have to coordinate this with Stefan but there is a lot to do else where currently and we didn't find the time to work on this issue. I'm going to see with Stefan if we could find sometime on irc to work on this. I am not the only person who asks these questions. Other people ask them on other lists. I think it is a big problem for OOo. How can we ask someone to donate if he can get no assurance that his money is being used as requested? I'll give you my point of view, which is only mine, of course. If I'm entitled by the community to receive money for developments and marketing tasks, I'll do my best to satisfy the community and their wishes concerning the used of this money *and* to satisfy the needs of the overall project. And I hope that the community will trust me on the decisions that are being made. The mac port has already received funds from the German association, from Team e.V and from French association if I remember well. Apple has participated in some material too. This team needs a deep support from our part, because they do a really hard work on their spare time only and they have very very few resources. However the needs of the whole project are plurals and imho request all our attention concerning the funds distribution. Imagine that we receive 80% of the donation directed to the Mac porting project. I would not find that fair for the other projects like the bibliographic one who's the first to come to my mind, or any other project that will have an important impact on our product (which, if you look deeper at any todo project list is the case). So, (and please be sure that I'm a great supporter of the mac porting project) we also have to take care of all the projects and their needs and for this, I know that Team e.V is the best one to have this overall vision and ensure that the donations are the best used to serve the entire OOo project. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Donating
Hi Daniel, Daniel Carrera wrote: [...] It would not be fair to accept money that the donor intended for one thing and use it on something else. Especially without the donor's permission. What's important to you may not coincide with what's important to me (indeed, if you want to spend my money on something different from what I asked, then we don't coincide). If you accept money intended for one thing and spending on something else you like better you might even face a lawsuit. In addition, donors may be less willing to donate if they feel they can't trust you to respect their request. You can only reallocate money that is either yours, or was given without provisions. Yes, of course, this is why I pointed the importance of being aware that the funds need to be directed to the entire project and not to one of it's area only. You can change the 80 % to another area, this is not imho the best way to ensure the development of a project to direct the funds to only one area at a time when the overall donations could benefit to a lot of places in the same time. But again this is my opinion :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Donating
Hi Ian, Ian Lynch wrote: On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:29 +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: [...] The real issue is transparency. Its not so much about who decides and how, but that all decisions are public knowledge. Charities and public organisations usually publish their accounts and make it clear how the money was spent. So this is done for Cusoon, see : http://www.cusoo.org/spip/article.php3?id_article=18 The same will be done for Team e.V. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Taking an ad in NYC's free Metro newspaper
Hi Adam, Adam Moore wrote: On 6/9/06, eric b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Again I ask you to respect our work, and stop the provocation : NeoOffice is something else, refuses to contribute for OopenOffice.org project, and has even destructive behaviour against our work. Now now Eric don't bend the truth. They have contributed code here: http://porting.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=15387 Please, don't read one message, but the all the facts (ie what the code contributed has became for the actual version). Thanks for helping getting the truth out, I agree that it's more easy to make it's opinon on one message than searching to make it's own opinion among several (might be a kind of figure of speech, sorry ;) You know what : I can assert that tomorrow OOo will be 80 % market share :) you may believe me because I'm a great contributor or OOo and for a long time, or because I've said that I'll bring billions of euros to the OOo project. Well I think you understand me :) I'm always sad when people speak instead of searching what is really happening or instead of trying to understand (or more than this believe) those people who are working so hard to make things happen. I understand this work is none of your business, but please do take care that this is ours and what you said may heart more than you would like. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Clé en main
Hi all, For information, the Regional Center of documentation depending on Education National and Paris Academy in France is selling a 512 MB USB Key containing OS softwares : http://crdp.ac-paris.fr/index.htm?url=d_productions/production_cle-en-main.htm [Clé en main means ready to use in French] This is a partner ship with Framakey (English link) http://www.framakey.org/En/Details The softwares on the CRDP key are : # Openoffice.org, # Firefox, # Thunderbird, # Miranda, # The Gimp, # Audacity, # Coolplayer, # VLC # SciTe A nice way to transport your preferred tools with you ;) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Re: [native-lang] [Fwd: [art] Stats]
Hi Charles, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello John, John McCreesh a écrit : Apologies for the cross-posting, but it's I like to share good news Seb : thanks for these informations. Thanks for these news! Sophie, did you know these figures? Not the exact numbers but yes I was aware of them. For information, I had a discussion last month with AUF about a possible partnership in OOo certification process in French which should be a very good thing imho :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Draft OpenOffice.org Solutions page / Input welcome!
Hi Erwin, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: Hi all, Since many (potential) OpenOffice.org users are looking for complementary tools and applications (both open source and commercial), I put together a draft OpenOffice.org Solutions page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions I've added Dmaths and Lodel. May be PortableOOo and the Framakey (http://www.framakey.org/En/Index) should be somewhere too, but I don't know where :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
