Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
OK, it's done: 29334 are relicensed to ASF. Gj On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > We've been discussing this a while now. I'm going to take the tool and run > it, relicensing around 29,000, as documented here: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > NetBeans+Transition+Process > > I'll then do the push of those changed headers. I'm also on the Infra chat > just in case something goes wrong, i.e., Infra is in the loop. > > Thanks, > > Gj > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Can someone create a repo for tools for Apache NetBeans, i.e., >> incubator-netbeans-tools? >> >> Also, can someone verify that the license header pattern is good? We want >> to minimize as much as possible the situation where later on someone tells >> us we did something wrong and need to do things all over again from >> scratch, revert commits, etc etc. >> >> Gj >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >> >>> Hi Bertrand, >>> >>> The tool is currently a zip attached to the wiki - but the zip contains a >>> git repository, so no history is lost. I just tried to create a new >>> repository (incubator-netbeans-tools) using: >>> https://reporeq.apache.org/ >>> >>> but it seems I cannot create such a repository. >>> >>> Aside for this, any comments on the license headers pattern that could be >>> replaced? More details here: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBean >>> s+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-Toolforanalyz >>> ingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >>> bdelacre...@apache.org >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >>> > > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... >>> > >>> > You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a >>> > specific "tools" repository. >>> > >>> > -Bertrand >>> > >>> >> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
We've been discussing this a while now. I'm going to take the tool and run it, relicensing around 29,000, as documented here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process I'll then do the push of those changed headers. I'm also on the Infra chat just in case something goes wrong, i.e., Infra is in the loop. Thanks, Gj On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Can someone create a repo for tools for Apache NetBeans, i.e., > incubator-netbeans-tools? > > Also, can someone verify that the license header pattern is good? We want > to minimize as much as possible the situation where later on someone tells > us we did something wrong and need to do things all over again from > scratch, revert commits, etc etc. > > Gj > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > >> Hi Bertrand, >> >> The tool is currently a zip attached to the wiki - but the zip contains a >> git repository, so no history is lost. I just tried to create a new >> repository (incubator-netbeans-tools) using: >> https://reporeq.apache.org/ >> >> but it seems I cannot create such a repository. >> >> Aside for this, any comments on the license headers pattern that could be >> replaced? More details here: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBean >> s+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-Toolforanalyz >> ingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders >> >> Thanks, >> Jan >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >> bdelacre...@apache.org >> > wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >> > > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... >> > >> > You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a >> > specific "tools" repository. >> > >> > -Bertrand >> > >> > >
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
Hi, On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: > ...Take > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/apisupport.wizards/src/org/netbeans/modules/apisupport/project/ui/wizard/wizard/instantiatingIterator.javx Ok - IIUC that's a template that NetBeans uses at runtime to generate Java code? > ...This didn't used to have a license header at all prior to the donation I > believe?... If that file is going to be included in the NetBeans release, it needs a license header indeed. > ...I assume from the way that > the license has been added to the template it's effectively a comment, and > so the output of the template process is still a file with no license, > which is as it should be in my opinion... If the template process is run by a NetBeans user then I agree, the generated file doesn't need a license header. I suppose such generated files are mostly boilerplate anyway and do not contain rocket science algorithms that might need to be appropriately licensed. > ...I'm wondering at what point, if at > all, the code generated by a template in this way becomes determined as > needing to carry the Apache license?... It's only files which are included in the NetBeans release which need an Apache license header. Does this clarify things? -Bertrand
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:26 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Neil C Smith > wrote: > > ...I assume we wouldn't want the output of > > them to be under any kind of license?... > > As a podling, NetBeans releases are approved by the Incubator PMC, and > I doubt they would approve a release containing files with no license. > > Not quite what I had in mind, though. Take https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/apisupport.wizards/src/org/netbeans/modules/apisupport/project/ui/wizard/wizard/instantiatingIterator.javx This didn't used to have a license header at all prior to the donation I believe? So, the file itself has a license, but I assume from the way that the license has been added to the template it's effectively a comment, and so the output of the template process is still a file with no license, which is as it should be in my opinion. I'm wondering at what point, if at all, the code generated by a template in this way becomes determined as needing to carry the Apache license? Best wishes, Neil -- Neil C Smith Artist & Technologist www.neilcsmith.net Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
If in NetBeans IDE the user does New/Java Class, then (I think) this template will be instantiated: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=blob;f=java.project.ui/src/org/netbeans/modules/java/project/ui/resources/Class.java.template;h=e9890cf1ebbfa872259a65b4259e10fd05053a79;hb=HEAD So, there may be two separate questions: a) what is the license of the template (for which I don't personally see a problem be the Apache License) b) what is the license of the file created from the template (where I suspect it would be a problem if the license would had to be the Apache license, regardless of the target project) Of course, this is not the only template NB has, and not the only way to generate code for the user in the IDE. But the main question to me is what is the license of the code the IDE generates for the user. Jan On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Neil C Smith > wrote: > > ...I assume we wouldn't want the output of > > them to be under any kind of license?... > > As a podling, NetBeans releases are approved by the Incubator PMC, and > I doubt they would approve a release containing files with no license. > > See "Source File Headers for Code Developed at the ASF" at > https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html for details. > > If someone want to discuss other options best is to do so on the > general@incubator.a.o list, as they're the ones who would approve or > reject such variants. We can discuss as much as we want here but > things which are outside ASF policy (which as explained is meant to > simplify things at the Foundation level as well as for our users) > won't fly. > > -Bertrand >
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > ...I assume we wouldn't want the output of > them to be under any kind of license?... As a podling, NetBeans releases are approved by the Incubator PMC, and I doubt they would approve a release containing files with no license. See "Source File Headers for Code Developed at the ASF" at https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html for details. If someone want to discuss other options best is to do so on the general@incubator.a.o list, as they're the ones who would approve or reject such variants. We can discuss as much as we want here but things which are outside ASF policy (which as explained is meant to simplify things at the Foundation level as well as for our users) won't fly. -Bertrand
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
Hi, On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:58 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > ...But it's a bit silly no? Any new project based on an Apache sample > would have to post a notice about the Apache > > license and include a copy of the license > > So we do require some consistency to make things easier. The Apache > License is one of those invariants. > > Also, if our sample code turns into the next Google, we want to be > credited for that - it's the only thing we'd get ;-) > > Kind of understand both points of view there, but veering more to Emi's on this particular point. My concern would be more about how we handle code generated by wizards, templates, etc. The example projects are one end of the scale there, but there are other project and file templates that generate quite a lot of code, and I assume we wouldn't want the output of them to be under any kind of license?! Just wondering where the line gets drawn here? Best wishes, Neil -- Neil C Smith Artist & Technologist www.neilcsmith.net Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Pe 21 sept. 2017, la 09:51, Bertrand Delacretaz a > scris: >> ...Code produced by the ASF must use the Apache License, so that's not an >> option here... > ...But it's a bit silly no? Any new project based on an Apache sample would > have to post a notice about the Apache > license and include a copy of the license To keep things simple, the ASF is often reluctant to handle special cases - you probably know that foundation has to oversee about 300 projects on a relatively small budget [1] - currently less than $5K per project per year. So we do require some consistency to make things easier. The Apache License is one of those invariants. Also, if our sample code turns into the next Google, we want to be credited for that - it's the only thing we'd get ;-) -Bertrand [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2017/board_minutes_2017_04_19.txt - "Approve the 2018 FY ASF Budget"
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
But it's a bit silly no? Any new project based on an Apache sample would have to post a notice about the Apache license and include a copy of the license. --emi Pe 21 sept. 2017, la 09:51, Bertrand Delacretaz a scris: > Hi, > >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Emilian Bold >> wrote: >> ...My concern was that sample code should not trigger any licensing >> thoughts. In that light Apache or BSD doesn't matter. >> Since it's designed to be used as a starting point it should be Public >> Domain... > > Code produced by the ASF must use the Apache License, so that's not an > option here. > > -Bertrand
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
Hi, On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > ...My concern was that sample code should not trigger any licensing > thoughts. In that light Apache or BSD doesn't matter. > Since it's designed to be used as a starting point it should be Public > Domain... Code produced by the ASF must use the Apache License, so that's not an option here. -Bertrand
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
Thanks, it was a small fun clean up task. Gj On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Well, that was very effective! > > My concern was that sample code should not trigger any licensing > thoughts. In that light Apache or BSD doesn't matter. > > Since it's designed to be used as a starting point it should be Public > Domain. > > Of course, everybody treats sample code as Public Domain, but that's > another matter. > > > --emi > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > OK, done, including references in various supporting files, and did a > build > > and run to check everything still works and resolved the issue: > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-62 > > > > Gj > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > >> Those specific files, i.e., the samples relating to the NetBeans > Platform > >> (FeedReader, PaintApp, OSGIDemo and maybe another one or two) should > simply > >> be deleted, they're old and out of date and it would simplify things > simply > >> not having them. > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-62 > >> > >> I'm planning to delete them today. > >> > >> Gj > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > >> bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Emilian Bold > >>> wrote: > >>> >> ...some files in the repository (typically samples) are using > 3-clause > >>> (if I get that correctly) BSD license... > >>> > >>> If those files have been donated to Apache they can be relicensed, and > >>> IMO they should, in order to simplify things. > >>> > >>> -Bertrand > >>> > >> > >> >
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
Well, that was very effective! My concern was that sample code should not trigger any licensing thoughts. In that light Apache or BSD doesn't matter. Since it's designed to be used as a starting point it should be Public Domain. Of course, everybody treats sample code as Public Domain, but that's another matter. --emi On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > OK, done, including references in various supporting files, and did a build > and run to check everything still works and resolved the issue: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-62 > > Gj > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Those specific files, i.e., the samples relating to the NetBeans Platform >> (FeedReader, PaintApp, OSGIDemo and maybe another one or two) should simply >> be deleted, they're old and out of date and it would simplify things simply >> not having them. >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-62 >> >> I'm planning to delete them today. >> >> Gj >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >> bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Emilian Bold >>> wrote: >>> >> ...some files in the repository (typically samples) are using 3-clause >>> (if I get that correctly) BSD license... >>> >>> If those files have been donated to Apache they can be relicensed, and >>> IMO they should, in order to simplify things. >>> >>> -Bertrand >>> >> >>
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
OK, done, including references in various supporting files, and did a build and run to check everything still works and resolved the issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-62 Gj On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Those specific files, i.e., the samples relating to the NetBeans Platform > (FeedReader, PaintApp, OSGIDemo and maybe another one or two) should simply > be deleted, they're old and out of date and it would simplify things simply > not having them. > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-62 > > I'm planning to delete them today. > > Gj > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Emilian Bold >> wrote: >> >> ...some files in the repository (typically samples) are using 3-clause >> (if I get that correctly) BSD license... >> >> If those files have been donated to Apache they can be relicensed, and >> IMO they should, in order to simplify things. >> >> -Bertrand >> > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Can someone create a repo for tools for Apache NetBeans, i.e., incubator-netbeans-tools? Also, can someone verify that the license header pattern is good? We want to minimize as much as possible the situation where later on someone tells us we did something wrong and need to do things all over again from scratch, revert commits, etc etc. Gj On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > Hi Bertrand, > > The tool is currently a zip attached to the wiki - but the zip contains a > git repository, so no history is lost. I just tried to create a new > repository (incubator-netbeans-tools) using: > https://reporeq.apache.org/ > > but it seems I cannot create such a repository. > > Aside for this, any comments on the license headers pattern that could be > replaced? More details here: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- > ToolforanalyzingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > > Thanks, > Jan > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... > > > > You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a > > specific "tools" repository. > > > > -Bertrand > > >
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
Those specific files, i.e., the samples relating to the NetBeans Platform (FeedReader, PaintApp, OSGIDemo and maybe another one or two) should simply be deleted, they're old and out of date and it would simplify things simply not having them. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-62 I'm planning to delete them today. Gj On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > >> ...some files in the repository (typically samples) are using 3-clause > (if I get that correctly) BSD license... > > If those files have been donated to Apache they can be relicensed, and > IMO they should, in order to simplify things. > > -Bertrand >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Hi Bertrand, The tool is currently a zip attached to the wiki - but the zip contains a git repository, so no history is lost. I just tried to create a new repository (incubator-netbeans-tools) using: https://reporeq.apache.org/ but it seems I cannot create such a repository. Aside for this, any comments on the license headers pattern that could be replaced? More details here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-ToolforanalyzingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders Thanks, Jan On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... > > You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a > specific "tools" repository. > > -Bertrand >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Could it be a subfolder in this incubator-netbeans? Or a new repo since the tool will be useful for other NetBeans repos too: incubator-netbeans-tools. There may be more scripts and things we'll be needing. Gj On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 at 15:08, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > On úterý 19. září 2017 15:24:53 CEST Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... > > > > You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a > > specific "tools" repository. > > We don't have tools repository as far as I know. > -jt > > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
On úterý 19. září 2017 15:24:53 CEST Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... > > You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a > specific "tools" repository. We don't have tools repository as far as I know. -jt
Re: Sample code license [WAS: Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git]
Hi, On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: >> ...some files in the repository (typically samples) are using 3-clause (if I >> get that correctly) BSD license... If those files have been donated to Apache they can be relicensed, and IMO they should, in order to simplify things. -Bertrand
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Good idea. Can you do this, Jan? Gj On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 at 14:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... > > You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a > specific "tools" repository. > > -Bertrand >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Hi, On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > ...I've uploaded an updated version of the tool... You mean the tool is not in Git? I think it should, maybe using a specific "tools" repository. -Bertrand
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
On úterý 19. září 2017 11:33:03 CEST Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > PS: re the samples, I propse we remove the NetBeans Platform samples, e.g., > FeedReader. These samples are old and include code and approaches that one > wouldn't use anymore, e.g., TopComponents manually registered in layer > instead of via annotations. We can recreate some samples easily from > scratch, without various 3rd party dependencies as is now the case. ₊1 -jt
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
PS: re the samples, I propse we remove the NetBeans Platform samples, e.g., FeedReader. These samples are old and include code and approaches that one wouldn't use anymore, e.g., TopComponents manually registered in layer instead of via annotations. We can recreate some samples easily from scratch, without various 3rd party dependencies as is now the case. Gj On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 at 11:59, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Sounds like a plan -- I'll use the tool to convert the licenses to Apache, > push that to Git, and then we'll use Rat to narrow down the remainder. > > How does that sound to everyone? > > Gj > > > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 at 08:50, Jan Lahoda wrote: > >> I can try to categorize the files a little, but I was hoping we could >> switch to using Rat to do the checks (after the bulk of the changes are >> done). So if e.g. the META-INF files would be OK to not have a header, we >> could simply exclude them in the Rat configuration, and they would be >> ignored (but the configuration is/will be in git, so easy to review). >> >> As a side note, some files in the repository (typically samples) are using >> 3-clause (if I get that correctly) BSD license currently, e.g.: >> >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=blob;f=apisupport.feedreader/feedreader-suite/FeedReader/src/org/netbeans/feedreader/BrowserTopComponent.java;h=6d0a0c533a9dfa9ed81d3f4349e352d1fb49b128;hb=HEAD >> >> My question is what (if anything) we need to do about these. >> >> Thanks, >> Jan >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> > Does the above make sense, i.e., I'm suggesting a few ways to finetune >> the >> > results a bit further -- and are there other ideas for finetuning, i.e., >> > trying to somehow incorporate those 14,651 files, so we can minimize the >> > manual checking we'll need to do? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Gj >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Great, I've tried it, works well. >> > > >> > > In the report, there's a list of 14,651 files under the heading "Files >> > > without CDDL (14651)". >> > > >> > > Could a distinction be made between those that have a license (i.e., >> some >> > > license other than CDDL) and those that do not have a license at all? >> > > >> > > I also think that it would be nice that after that split, i.e., >> between >> > > those with/without a license, that everything is sorted based on file >> > type, >> > > so we can easily distinguish those in the lists that are 'form' files, >> > > 'png' files, etc, for each of these two categories. >> > > >> > > I think also that anything within META-INF does not have any "degree >> of >> > > creativity", i.e, these are simply registration files for >> implementations >> > > of APIs. Could you provide the number of these, for this page, where >> I'm >> > > trying to keep a record of all the file types that are a special case >> of >> > > some kind: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ >> > > NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process >> > > >> > > Thanks a lot, and any feedback from anyone is welcome, >> > > >> > > Gj >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >> > > >> > >> Hi, >> > >> >> > >> I've uploaded an updated version of the tool - fixing a bug in >> rewriting >> > >> headers of bundle files (where it was deleting one line after the >> > header, >> > >> reported by Geertjan offline), making it a little bit more strict >> > >> (currently rewrites 29474 files), adding support for bat files, and >> > adding >> > >> ability to dump a file with statistics and changed/not changed files. >> > >> >> > >> I guess after the bulk update of these headers is done, and >> > LICENSE&NOTICE >> > >> is added, we could start a usual development? (Continuing with >> reviewing >> > >> the Rat report concurrently?) >> > >> >> > >> Could please someone overview the regexp here: >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBean >> > >> s+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-Toolforanalyz >> > >> ingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders >> > >> >> > >> to see if it is OK to write such headers? Seems OK to me personally, >> > but I >> > >> think having feedback from someone more experienced would be helpful. >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Jan >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also >> > >> actually >> > >> > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: >> > >> > >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >> > >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process >> > >> > >> > >> > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the >> > >> 29,496? >> > >> > >> > >> > I have updated the table in the link above t
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Sounds like a plan -- I'll use the tool to convert the licenses to Apache, push that to Git, and then we'll use Rat to narrow down the remainder. How does that sound to everyone? Gj On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 at 08:50, Jan Lahoda wrote: > I can try to categorize the files a little, but I was hoping we could > switch to using Rat to do the checks (after the bulk of the changes are > done). So if e.g. the META-INF files would be OK to not have a header, we > could simply exclude them in the Rat configuration, and they would be > ignored (but the configuration is/will be in git, so easy to review). > > As a side note, some files in the repository (typically samples) are using > 3-clause (if I get that correctly) BSD license currently, e.g.: > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=blob;f=apisupport.feedreader/feedreader-suite/FeedReader/src/org/netbeans/feedreader/BrowserTopComponent.java;h=6d0a0c533a9dfa9ed81d3f4349e352d1fb49b128;hb=HEAD > > My question is what (if anything) we need to do about these. > > Thanks, > Jan > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Does the above make sense, i.e., I'm suggesting a few ways to finetune > the > > results a bit further -- and are there other ideas for finetuning, i.e., > > trying to somehow incorporate those 14,651 files, so we can minimize the > > manual checking we'll need to do? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gj > > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Great, I've tried it, works well. > > > > > > In the report, there's a list of 14,651 files under the heading "Files > > > without CDDL (14651)". > > > > > > Could a distinction be made between those that have a license (i.e., > some > > > license other than CDDL) and those that do not have a license at all? > > > > > > I also think that it would be nice that after that split, i.e., between > > > those with/without a license, that everything is sorted based on file > > type, > > > so we can easily distinguish those in the lists that are 'form' files, > > > 'png' files, etc, for each of these two categories. > > > > > > I think also that anything within META-INF does not have any "degree of > > > creativity", i.e, these are simply registration files for > implementations > > > of APIs. Could you provide the number of these, for this page, where > I'm > > > trying to keep a record of all the file types that are a special case > of > > > some kind: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ > > > NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process > > > > > > Thanks a lot, and any feedback from anyone is welcome, > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I've uploaded an updated version of the tool - fixing a bug in > rewriting > > >> headers of bundle files (where it was deleting one line after the > > header, > > >> reported by Geertjan offline), making it a little bit more strict > > >> (currently rewrites 29474 files), adding support for bat files, and > > adding > > >> ability to dump a file with statistics and changed/not changed files. > > >> > > >> I guess after the bulk update of these headers is done, and > > LICENSE&NOTICE > > >> is added, we could start a usual development? (Continuing with > reviewing > > >> the Rat report concurrently?) > > >> > > >> Could please someone overview the regexp here: > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBean > > >> s+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-Toolforanalyz > > >> ingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > > >> > > >> to see if it is OK to write such headers? Seems OK to me personally, > > but I > > >> think having feedback from someone more experienced would be helpful. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Jan > > >> > > >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also > > >> actually > > >> > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: > > >> > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process > > >> > > > >> > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the > > >> 29,496? > > >> > > > >> > I have updated the table in the link above to list all the > problematic > > >> file > > >> > types, i.e., those that are not licensed. > > >> > > > >> > Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the > > 29,496 > > >> > that can automatically be relicensed. > > >> > > > >> > Gj > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > >> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Agree completely. > > >> > > > > >> > > Gj > > >> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wiele
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> As a side note, some files in the repository (typically samples) are using > 3-clause (if I get that correctly) BSD license Last time this was a talking point you couldn't tweak the installer without changing the source code that was under the standard CDDL + GPL w/ CPE license. So each custom installer was a derivative work. Using BSD for samples and such was a very good change. I'm not really sure if Apache is OK with BSD samples. Then again, not sure if the Apache license would be a blocking point anymore as it's much more commercial friendly. --emi On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > I can try to categorize the files a little, but I was hoping we could > switch to using Rat to do the checks (after the bulk of the changes are > done). So if e.g. the META-INF files would be OK to not have a header, we > could simply exclude them in the Rat configuration, and they would be > ignored (but the configuration is/will be in git, so easy to review). > > As a side note, some files in the repository (typically samples) are using > 3-clause (if I get that correctly) BSD license currently, e.g.: > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=blob;f=apisupport.feedreader/feedreader-suite/FeedReader/src/org/netbeans/feedreader/BrowserTopComponent.java;h=6d0a0c533a9dfa9ed81d3f4349e352d1fb49b128;hb=HEAD > > My question is what (if anything) we need to do about these. > > Thanks, > Jan > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Does the above make sense, i.e., I'm suggesting a few ways to finetune the >> results a bit further -- and are there other ideas for finetuning, i.e., >> trying to somehow incorporate those 14,651 files, so we can minimize the >> manual checking we'll need to do? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gj >> >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> > Great, I've tried it, works well. >> > >> > In the report, there's a list of 14,651 files under the heading "Files >> > without CDDL (14651)". >> > >> > Could a distinction be made between those that have a license (i.e., some >> > license other than CDDL) and those that do not have a license at all? >> > >> > I also think that it would be nice that after that split, i.e., between >> > those with/without a license, that everything is sorted based on file >> type, >> > so we can easily distinguish those in the lists that are 'form' files, >> > 'png' files, etc, for each of these two categories. >> > >> > I think also that anything within META-INF does not have any "degree of >> > creativity", i.e, these are simply registration files for implementations >> > of APIs. Could you provide the number of these, for this page, where I'm >> > trying to keep a record of all the file types that are a special case of >> > some kind: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ >> > NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process >> > >> > Thanks a lot, and any feedback from anyone is welcome, >> > >> > Gj >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I've uploaded an updated version of the tool - fixing a bug in rewriting >> >> headers of bundle files (where it was deleting one line after the >> header, >> >> reported by Geertjan offline), making it a little bit more strict >> >> (currently rewrites 29474 files), adding support for bat files, and >> adding >> >> ability to dump a file with statistics and changed/not changed files. >> >> >> >> I guess after the bulk update of these headers is done, and >> LICENSE&NOTICE >> >> is added, we could start a usual development? (Continuing with reviewing >> >> the Rat report concurrently?) >> >> >> >> Could please someone overview the regexp here: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBean >> >> s+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-Toolforanalyz >> >> ingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders >> >> >> >> to see if it is OK to write such headers? Seems OK to me personally, >> but I >> >> think having feedback from someone more experienced would be helpful. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also >> >> actually >> >> > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: >> >> > >> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >> >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process >> >> > >> >> > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the >> >> 29,496? >> >> > >> >> > I have updated the table in the link above to list all the problematic >> >> file >> >> > types, i.e., those that are not licensed. >> >> > >> >> > Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the >> 29,496 >> >> > that can automatically be relicensed. >> >> > >> >> > Gj >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geert
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
I can try to categorize the files a little, but I was hoping we could switch to using Rat to do the checks (after the bulk of the changes are done). So if e.g. the META-INF files would be OK to not have a header, we could simply exclude them in the Rat configuration, and they would be ignored (but the configuration is/will be in git, so easy to review). As a side note, some files in the repository (typically samples) are using 3-clause (if I get that correctly) BSD license currently, e.g.: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=blob;f=apisupport.feedreader/feedreader-suite/FeedReader/src/org/netbeans/feedreader/BrowserTopComponent.java;h=6d0a0c533a9dfa9ed81d3f4349e352d1fb49b128;hb=HEAD My question is what (if anything) we need to do about these. Thanks, Jan On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Does the above make sense, i.e., I'm suggesting a few ways to finetune the > results a bit further -- and are there other ideas for finetuning, i.e., > trying to somehow incorporate those 14,651 files, so we can minimize the > manual checking we'll need to do? > > Thanks, > > Gj > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Great, I've tried it, works well. > > > > In the report, there's a list of 14,651 files under the heading "Files > > without CDDL (14651)". > > > > Could a distinction be made between those that have a license (i.e., some > > license other than CDDL) and those that do not have a license at all? > > > > I also think that it would be nice that after that split, i.e., between > > those with/without a license, that everything is sorted based on file > type, > > so we can easily distinguish those in the lists that are 'form' files, > > 'png' files, etc, for each of these two categories. > > > > I think also that anything within META-INF does not have any "degree of > > creativity", i.e, these are simply registration files for implementations > > of APIs. Could you provide the number of these, for this page, where I'm > > trying to keep a record of all the file types that are a special case of > > some kind: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ > > NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process > > > > Thanks a lot, and any feedback from anyone is welcome, > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've uploaded an updated version of the tool - fixing a bug in rewriting > >> headers of bundle files (where it was deleting one line after the > header, > >> reported by Geertjan offline), making it a little bit more strict > >> (currently rewrites 29474 files), adding support for bat files, and > adding > >> ability to dump a file with statistics and changed/not changed files. > >> > >> I guess after the bulk update of these headers is done, and > LICENSE&NOTICE > >> is added, we could start a usual development? (Continuing with reviewing > >> the Rat report concurrently?) > >> > >> Could please someone overview the regexp here: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBean > >> s+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-Toolforanalyz > >> ingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > >> > >> to see if it is OK to write such headers? Seems OK to me personally, > but I > >> think having feedback from someone more experienced would be helpful. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jan > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also > >> actually > >> > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process > >> > > >> > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the > >> 29,496? > >> > > >> > I have updated the table in the link above to list all the problematic > >> file > >> > types, i.e., those that are not licensed. > >> > > >> > Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the > 29,496 > >> > that can automatically be relicensed. > >> > > >> > Gj > >> > > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > >> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Agree completely. > >> > > > >> > > Gj > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > >> > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of > >> > incubator-netbeans" > >> > >> > table on the page > >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > >> > >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process, > >> > >> > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, > >> and in > >> > >> each > >> > >> > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good > >> view, > >>
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Does the above make sense, i.e., I'm suggesting a few ways to finetune the results a bit further -- and are there other ideas for finetuning, i.e., trying to somehow incorporate those 14,651 files, so we can minimize the manual checking we'll need to do? Thanks, Gj On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Great, I've tried it, works well. > > In the report, there's a list of 14,651 files under the heading "Files > without CDDL (14651)". > > Could a distinction be made between those that have a license (i.e., some > license other than CDDL) and those that do not have a license at all? > > I also think that it would be nice that after that split, i.e., between > those with/without a license, that everything is sorted based on file type, > so we can easily distinguish those in the lists that are 'form' files, > 'png' files, etc, for each of these two categories. > > I think also that anything within META-INF does not have any "degree of > creativity", i.e, these are simply registration files for implementations > of APIs. Could you provide the number of these, for this page, where I'm > trying to keep a record of all the file types that are a special case of > some kind: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ > NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process > > Thanks a lot, and any feedback from anyone is welcome, > > Gj > > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've uploaded an updated version of the tool - fixing a bug in rewriting >> headers of bundle files (where it was deleting one line after the header, >> reported by Geertjan offline), making it a little bit more strict >> (currently rewrites 29474 files), adding support for bat files, and adding >> ability to dump a file with statistics and changed/not changed files. >> >> I guess after the bulk update of these headers is done, and LICENSE&NOTICE >> is added, we could start a usual development? (Continuing with reviewing >> the Rat report concurrently?) >> >> Could please someone overview the regexp here: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBean >> s+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-Toolforanalyz >> ingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders >> >> to see if it is OK to write such headers? Seems OK to me personally, but I >> think having feedback from someone more experienced would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> Jan >> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also >> actually >> > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process >> > >> > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the >> 29,496? >> > >> > I have updated the table in the link above to list all the problematic >> file >> > types, i.e., those that are not licensed. >> > >> > Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the 29,496 >> > that can automatically be relicensed. >> > >> > Gj >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Agree completely. >> > > >> > > Gj >> > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >> > > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of >> > incubator-netbeans" >> > >> > table on the page >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >> > >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process, >> > >> > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, >> and in >> > >> each >> > >> > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good >> view, >> > >> and a >> > >> > clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything >> > that >> > >> > needs to be done for each type of file. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I was thinking of putting there files that are in some way >> problematic >> > >> (e.g. a missing license header, like in manifests). Assuming headers >> > >> matching the regexp would be OK to change, maybe we don't need to >> > clutter >> > >> the table with files that contain them (unless we have another >> reason to >> > >> put a particular file in)? (Matching headers are (unless I did >> something >> > >> wrong) in >29000 files.) >> > >> >> > >> Jan >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Gj >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma >> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start >> > >> > > committing >> > >> > > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 >> addition >> > >> > > commits) >> > >> > > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Great, I've tried it, works well. In the report, there's a list of 14,651 files under the heading "Files without CDDL (14651)". Could a distinction be made between those that have a license (i.e., some license other than CDDL) and those that do not have a license at all? I also think that it would be nice that after that split, i.e., between those with/without a license, that everything is sorted based on file type, so we can easily distinguish those in the lists that are 'form' files, 'png' files, etc, for each of these two categories. I think also that anything within META-INF does not have any "degree of creativity", i.e, these are simply registration files for implementations of APIs. Could you provide the number of these, for this page, where I'm trying to keep a record of all the file types that are a special case of some kind: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process Thanks a lot, and any feedback from anyone is welcome, Gj On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > Hi, > > I've uploaded an updated version of the tool - fixing a bug in rewriting > headers of bundle files (where it was deleting one line after the header, > reported by Geertjan offline), making it a little bit more strict > (currently rewrites 29474 files), adding support for bat files, and adding > ability to dump a file with statistics and changed/not changed files. > > I guess after the bulk update of these headers is done, and LICENSE&NOTICE > is added, we could start a usual development? (Continuing with reviewing > the Rat report concurrently?) > > Could please someone overview the regexp here: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- > ToolforanalyzingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > > to see if it is OK to write such headers? Seems OK to me personally, but I > think having feedback from someone more experienced would be helpful. > > Thanks, > Jan > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also > actually > > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > NetBeans+Transition+Process > > > > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the 29,496? > > > > I have updated the table in the link above to list all the problematic > file > > types, i.e., those that are not licensed. > > > > Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the 29,496 > > that can automatically be relicensed. > > > > Gj > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Agree completely. > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > > > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of > > incubator-netbeans" > > >> > table on the page > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process, > > >> > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, and > in > > >> each > > >> > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good view, > > >> and a > > >> > clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything > > that > > >> > needs to be done for each type of file. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I was thinking of putting there files that are in some way problematic > > >> (e.g. a missing license header, like in manifests). Assuming headers > > >> matching the regexp would be OK to change, maybe we don't need to > > clutter > > >> the table with files that contain them (unless we have another reason > to > > >> put a particular file in)? (Matching headers are (unless I did > something > > >> wrong) in >29000 files.) > > >> > > >> Jan > > >> > > >> > > >> > Gj > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start > > >> > > committing > > >> > > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 > addition > > >> > > commits) > > >> > > > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > So, here: > > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > >> > > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- > > >> > > ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > > >> > > > > >> > > I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing > (normalized) > > >> > license > > >> > > headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching > > >> headers, I > > >> > > think that would be great. (Please let
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Hi, I've uploaded an updated version of the tool - fixing a bug in rewriting headers of bundle files (where it was deleting one line after the header, reported by Geertjan offline), making it a little bit more strict (currently rewrites 29474 files), adding support for bat files, and adding ability to dump a file with statistics and changed/not changed files. I guess after the bulk update of these headers is done, and LICENSE&NOTICE is added, we could start a usual development? (Continuing with reviewing the Rat report concurrently?) Could please someone overview the regexp here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-ToolforanalyzingandchangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders to see if it is OK to write such headers? Seems OK to me personally, but I think having feedback from someone more experienced would be helpful. Thanks, Jan On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also actually > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > NetBeans+Transition+Process > > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the 29,496? > > I have updated the table in the link above to list all the problematic file > types, i.e., those that are not licensed. > > Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the 29,496 > that can automatically be relicensed. > > Gj > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Agree completely. > > > > Gj > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of > incubator-netbeans" > >> > table on the page > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process, > >> > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, and in > >> each > >> > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good view, > >> and a > >> > clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything > that > >> > needs to be done for each type of file. > >> > > >> > > >> I was thinking of putting there files that are in some way problematic > >> (e.g. a missing license header, like in manifests). Assuming headers > >> matching the regexp would be OK to change, maybe we don't need to > clutter > >> the table with files that contain them (unless we have another reason to > >> put a particular file in)? (Matching headers are (unless I did something > >> wrong) in >29000 files.) > >> > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> > Gj > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > >> > > > > >> > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start > >> > > committing > >> > > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition > >> > > commits) > >> > > > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > So, here: > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > >> > > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- > >> > > ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > >> > > > >> > > I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing (normalized) > >> > license > >> > > headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching > >> headers, I > >> > > think that would be great. (Please let me know if there are any > >> > question.) > >> > > > >> > > Jan > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. > >> like > >> > > > what > >> > > > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. > >> > > > > >> > > > Regards, > >> > > > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor > >> > anything > >> > > > going on here) > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> Hi all, > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Big milestone -- > >> > > >> > >> > > >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git > >> > > >> > >> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > >> > > >> > >> > > >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache > Git, > >> > > >> mirrored > >> > > >> at Apache GitHub. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and > thanks > >> > also > >> > > >> for the great support via Apache infra today. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Gj > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Ah, found this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12886241/categorized-1.zip I.e., quite some analysis done by you already and found here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-54 Gj On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also actually > changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > NetBeans+Transition+Process > > Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the 29,496? > > I have updated the table in the link above to list all the problematic > file types, i.e., those that are not licensed. > > Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the 29,496 > that can automatically be relicensed. > > Gj > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Agree completely. >> >> Gj >> >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of >>> incubator-netbeans" >>> > table on the page >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >>> > NetBeans+Transition+Process, >>> > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, and in >>> each >>> > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good view, >>> and a >>> > clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything that >>> > needs to be done for each type of file. >>> > >>> > >>> I was thinking of putting there files that are in some way problematic >>> (e.g. a missing license header, like in manifests). Assuming headers >>> matching the regexp would be OK to change, maybe we don't need to clutter >>> the table with files that contain them (unless we have another reason to >>> put a particular file in)? (Matching headers are (unless I did something >>> wrong) in >29000 files.) >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> > Gj >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >>> > >>> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! >>> > > > >>> > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start >>> > > committing >>> > > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition >>> > > commits) >>> > > > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > So, here: >>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >>> > > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- >>> > > ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders >>> > > >>> > > I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing (normalized) >>> > license >>> > > headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching >>> headers, I >>> > > think that would be great. (Please let me know if there are any >>> > question.) >>> > > >>> > > Jan >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. >>> like >>> > > > what >>> > > > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. >>> > > > >>> > > > Regards, >>> > > > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor >>> > anything >>> > > > going on here) >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > >> Hi all, >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Big milestone -- >>> > > >> >>> > > >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git >>> > > >> >>> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans >>> > > >> >>> > > >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, >>> > > >> mirrored >>> > > >> at Apache GitHub. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and >>> thanks >>> > also >>> > > >> for the great support via Apache infra today. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Gj >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
I've used the tool, it's really great, not only analyzes but also actually changes the licenses, 29,496 of 44,324: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process Could the tool be tuned to list all the files that are not in the 29,496? I have updated the table in the link above to list all the problematic file types, i.e., those that are not licensed. Would be great to identify anything else that is not part of the 29,496 that can automatically be relicensed. Gj On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Agree completely. > > Gj > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of incubator-netbeans" >> > table on the page >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >> > NetBeans+Transition+Process, >> > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, and in >> each >> > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good view, >> and a >> > clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything that >> > needs to be done for each type of file. >> > >> > >> I was thinking of putting there files that are in some way problematic >> (e.g. a missing license header, like in manifests). Assuming headers >> matching the regexp would be OK to change, maybe we don't need to clutter >> the table with files that contain them (unless we have another reason to >> put a particular file in)? (Matching headers are (unless I did something >> wrong) in >29000 files.) >> >> Jan >> >> >> > Gj >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: >> > >> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: >> > > >> > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! >> > > > >> > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start >> > > committing >> > > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition >> > > commits) >> > > > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! >> > > > >> > > >> > > So, here: >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ >> > > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- >> > > ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders >> > > >> > > I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing (normalized) >> > license >> > > headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching >> headers, I >> > > think that would be great. (Please let me know if there are any >> > question.) >> > > >> > > Jan >> > > >> > > >> > > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. >> like >> > > > what >> > > > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. >> > > > >> > > > Regards, >> > > > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor >> > anything >> > > > going on here) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Hi all, >> > > >> >> > > >> Big milestone -- >> > > >> >> > > >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git >> > > >> >> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans >> > > >> >> > > >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, >> > > >> mirrored >> > > >> at Apache GitHub. >> > > >> >> > > >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks >> > also >> > > >> for the great support via Apache infra today. >> > > >> >> > > >> Gj >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Agree completely. Gj On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of incubator-netbeans" > > table on the page > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > NetBeans+Transition+Process, > > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, and in > each > > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good view, and > a > > clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything that > > needs to be done for each type of file. > > > > > I was thinking of putting there files that are in some way problematic > (e.g. a missing license header, like in manifests). Assuming headers > matching the regexp would be OK to change, maybe we don't need to clutter > the table with files that contain them (unless we have another reason to > put a particular file in)? (Matching headers are (unless I did something > wrong) in >29000 files.) > > Jan > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > > > > > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > > > > > > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start > > > committing > > > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition > > > commits) > > > > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > > > > > > > > > > So, here: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- > > > ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > > > > > > I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing (normalized) > > license > > > headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching > headers, I > > > think that would be great. (Please let me know if there are any > > question.) > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. > like > > > > what > > > > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor > > anything > > > > going on here) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> Big milestone -- > > > >> > > > >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git > > > >> > > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > > >> > > > >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, > > > >> mirrored > > > >> at Apache GitHub. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks > > also > > > >> for the great support via Apache infra today. > > > >> > > > >> Gj > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of incubator-netbeans" > table on the page > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > NetBeans+Transition+Process, > i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, and in each > case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good view, and a > clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything that > needs to be done for each type of file. > > I was thinking of putting there files that are in some way problematic (e.g. a missing license header, like in manifests). Assuming headers matching the regexp would be OK to change, maybe we don't need to clutter the table with files that contain them (unless we have another reason to put a particular file in)? (Matching headers are (unless I did something wrong) in >29000 files.) Jan > Gj > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > > > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > > > > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start > > committing > > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition > > commits) > > > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > > > > > > > So, here: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- > > ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > > > > I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing (normalized) > license > > headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching headers, I > > think that would be great. (Please let me know if there are any > question.) > > > > Jan > > > > > > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like > > > what > > > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor > anything > > > going on here) > > > > > > > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> Big milestone -- > > >> > > >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git > > >> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > >> > > >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, > > >> mirrored > > >> at Apache GitHub. > > >> > > >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks > also > > >> for the great support via Apache infra today. > > >> > > >> Gj > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
I think we also need to fill out the "Relicensing of incubator-netbeans" table on the page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process, i.e., with the various file types in a column, related numbers, and in each case what the problems are/could be, so that we can get a good view, and a clearly documented perspective for future reference, of everything that needs to be done for each type of file. Gj On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > > > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > > > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start > committing > > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition > commits) > > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > > > > So, here: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess- > ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders > > I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing (normalized) license > headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching headers, I > think that would be great. (Please let me know if there are any question.) > > Jan > > > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like > > what > > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. > > > > Regards, > > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor anything > > going on here) > > > > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Big milestone -- > >> > >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > >> > >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, > >> mirrored > >> at Apache GitHub. > >> > >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also > >> for the great support via Apache infra today. > >> > >> Gj > >> > >> > > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start committing > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition commits) > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > So, here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process#NetBeansTransitionProcess-ChangingGPL+CDDLlicenseheaders I tried to prepare a regexp that matches most existing (normalized) license headers. If someone could check if it is OK to change matching headers, I think that would be great. (Please let me know if there are any question.) Jan > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like > what > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. > > Regards, > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor anything > going on here) > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Big milestone -- >> >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git >> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans >> >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, >> mirrored >> at Apache GitHub. >> >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also >> for the great support via Apache infra today. >> >> Gj >> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
In sorting through the files and doing the relicensing, since it's going to be a very large set of changes, we'd like to do one big merge from a fork. I.e., we propose doing a fork of incubator-netbeans to, for example, github.com/geertjanwielenga, and then doing all the license changes there, after which we'd do one big merge into incubator-netbeans. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-54 Gj On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 2017-09-11 22:42, Jan Lahoda wrote: > >> Hi Ate, >> >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: >> >> Wonderful news and big next step indeed! >>> >>> Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start >>> committing >>> improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition >>> commits) >>> >>> >> As Geertjan mentions - one of the commits was necessary to allow the build >> pass. The other wasn't strictly necessary, but it is easier to say that >> building is done using by invoking "ant" than by invoking "ant >> -Dcluster.config=basic". >> >> the next step should be to adjust the license headers! >> > > Thanks, all cool! > > Ate > > > >>> >> Feedback would be welcome on comments in: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-54 >> >> Thanks for you support and insights, >> Jan >> >> >> >>> Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like >>> what >>> Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor anything >>> going on here) >>> >>> >>> On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, Big milestone -- git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, mirrored at Apache GitHub. Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also for the great support via Apache infra today. Gj >>> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
On 2017-09-11 22:42, Jan Lahoda wrote: Hi Ate, On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: Wonderful news and big next step indeed! Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start committing improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition commits) As Geertjan mentions - one of the commits was necessary to allow the build pass. The other wasn't strictly necessary, but it is easier to say that building is done using by invoking "ant" than by invoking "ant -Dcluster.config=basic". the next step should be to adjust the license headers! Thanks, all cool! Ate Feedback would be welcome on comments in: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-54 Thanks for you support and insights, Jan Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like what Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. Regards, Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor anything going on here) On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, Big milestone -- git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, mirrored at Apache GitHub. Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also for the great support via Apache infra today. Gj
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Hi Ate, On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start committing > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition commits) > As Geertjan mentions - one of the commits was necessary to allow the build pass. The other wasn't strictly necessary, but it is easier to say that building is done using by invoking "ant" than by invoking "ant -Dcluster.config=basic". the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > Feedback would be welcome on comments in: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-54 Thanks for you support and insights, Jan > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like > what > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. > > Regards, > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor anything > going on here) > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Big milestone -- >> >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git >> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans >> >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, >> mirrored >> at Apache GitHub. >> >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also >> for the great support via Apache infra today. >> >> Gj >> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Thanks a lot for the support and advice throughout this process, Ate. The two addition commits you see are specifically to enable the build to succeed, there were two small problems in that area. And in general for right now, and of course we need to discuss this as a community, we probably should focus on simply getting a first release done, i.e., the absolute minimum Apache requirements, of which one is the relicensing indeed. Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > Wonderful news and big next step indeed! > > Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start committing > improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition commits) > the next step should be to adjust the license headers! > > Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like > what > Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. > > Regards, > Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor anything > going on here) > > > On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Big milestone -- >> >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git >> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans >> >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, >> mirrored >> at Apache GitHub. >> >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also >> for the great support via Apache infra today. >> >> Gj >> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Wonderful news and big next step indeed! Now, while I understand everyone being 'trigger happy' to start committing improvements, fixes, etc. (and currently I already see 2 addition commits) the next step should be to adjust the license headers! Which this should be done by a Oracle representing committer, e.g. like what Jaroslav did for the -html4j repository. Regards, Ate (who regrettably has very limited time this week to monitor anything going on here) On 2017-09-11 17:04, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, Big milestone -- git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, mirrored at Apache GitHub. Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also for the great support via Apache infra today. Gj
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
The sooner the better. :-) Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Simon IJskes wrote: > When can we start contributing patches? > > G. Simon > > > On 11-09-17 17:22, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> Yes, README and much more must be added. >> >> -- Build it: ant build -Dcluster.config=java in the root of the sources >> -- Try it: ant tryme in the root of the sources >> >> Gj >> > > > >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
When can we start contributing patches? G. Simon On 11-09-17 17:22, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Yes, README and much more must be added. -- Build it: ant build -Dcluster.config=java in the root of the sources -- Try it: ant tryme in the root of the sources Gj
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: If the 2nd and (if there is one) the 3rd Code donation is transfered, does > that mean, that we will have separated github repos for the Code? Or will > the other stuff landed in the incubation-netbeans (later hopefully > netbeans) repo too? > The 2nd donation are the other clusters, e.g., 'enterprise', and will be found in the same Apache NetBeans repo. There'll be some other repos, that should end up in separate Apache Git repos. See the end of this page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Transition+Process Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Yes, README and much more must be added. > > -- Build it: ant build -Dcluster.config=java in the root of the sources > -- Try it: ant tryme in the root of the sources > > Gj > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Simon IJskes wrote: > >> Also: >> >> should these be mentioned as 'externals' in the README? >> >> [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binarie >> s/CA70822C47A67FC3A11670270567C2D01566DAE1-jhall-2.0_05.jar >> [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binarie >> s/2973D150C0DC1FEFE998F834810D68F278EA58EC-junit-4.12.jar >> [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binarie >> s/42A25DC3219429F0E5D060061F71ACB49BF010A0-hamcrest-core-1.3.jar >> >> >> Sorry about the quick-fire messages, let me know if i should file them in >> jira. >> >> G. Simon >> >> >> >> On 11-09-17 17:15, Simon IJskes wrote: >> >>> Also: >>> >>> running 'ant' produces a lot of messages and in the end: >>> >>> BUILD FAILED >>> /home/xxx/apache/incubator-netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:180: Some modules >>> according your cluster config 'full' are missing from checkout, see >>> messages above. >>> >>> >>> On 11-09-17 17:12, Simon IJskes wrote: >>> I'm missing a README or something with the build instructions. G. Simon On 11-09-17 17:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Would be great to do some sanity checks, e.g., does it build, if not > why > not, and somebody should try to check it out and do a quick recursive > diff > with the unzipped donation ZIP file to make sure all files are there. > > Gj > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, >> >> Big milestone -- >> >> git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git >> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans >> >> The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, >> mirrored at Apache GitHub. >> >> Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks >> also >> for the great support via Apache infra today. >> >> Gj >> >> > >>> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Yes, README and much more must be added. -- Build it: ant build -Dcluster.config=java in the root of the sources -- Try it: ant tryme in the root of the sources Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Simon IJskes wrote: > Also: > > should these be mentioned as 'externals' in the README? > > [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binarie > s/CA70822C47A67FC3A11670270567C2D01566DAE1-jhall-2.0_05.jar > [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binarie > s/2973D150C0DC1FEFE998F834810D68F278EA58EC-junit-4.12.jar > [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binarie > s/42A25DC3219429F0E5D060061F71ACB49BF010A0-hamcrest-core-1.3.jar > > > Sorry about the quick-fire messages, let me know if i should file them in > jira. > > G. Simon > > > > On 11-09-17 17:15, Simon IJskes wrote: > >> Also: >> >> running 'ant' produces a lot of messages and in the end: >> >> BUILD FAILED >> /home/xxx/apache/incubator-netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:180: Some modules >> according your cluster config 'full' are missing from checkout, see >> messages above. >> >> >> On 11-09-17 17:12, Simon IJskes wrote: >> >>> I'm missing a README or something with the build instructions. >>> >>> G. Simon >>> >>> On 11-09-17 17:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >>> Would be great to do some sanity checks, e.g., does it build, if not why not, and somebody should try to check it out and do a quick recursive diff with the unzipped donation ZIP file to make sure all files are there. Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: Hi all, > > Big milestone -- > > git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, > mirrored at Apache GitHub. > > Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks > also > for the great support via Apache infra today. > > Gj > > >>> >> >
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Also: should these be mentioned as 'externals' in the README? [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binaries/CA70822C47A67FC3A11670270567C2D01566DAE1-jhall-2.0_05.jar [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binaries/2973D150C0DC1FEFE998F834810D68F278EA58EC-junit-4.12.jar [downloadbinaries] Downloading: http://hg.netbeans.org/binaries/42A25DC3219429F0E5D060061F71ACB49BF010A0-hamcrest-core-1.3.jar Sorry about the quick-fire messages, let me know if i should file them in jira. G. Simon On 11-09-17 17:15, Simon IJskes wrote: Also: running 'ant' produces a lot of messages and in the end: BUILD FAILED /home/xxx/apache/incubator-netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:180: Some modules according your cluster config 'full' are missing from checkout, see messages above. On 11-09-17 17:12, Simon IJskes wrote: I'm missing a README or something with the build instructions. G. Simon On 11-09-17 17:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Would be great to do some sanity checks, e.g., does it build, if not why not, and somebody should try to check it out and do a quick recursive diff with the unzipped donation ZIP file to make sure all files are there. Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: Hi all, Big milestone -- git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, mirrored at Apache GitHub. Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also for the great support via Apache infra today. Gj
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Great accomplishment. Congrats to all. David On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Simon IJskes wrote: > Also: > > running 'ant' produces a lot of messages and in the end: > > BUILD FAILED > /home/xxx/apache/incubator-netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:180: Some modules > according your cluster config 'full' are missing from checkout, see > messages above. > > > > On 11-09-17 17:12, Simon IJskes wrote: > >> I'm missing a README or something with the build instructions. >> >> G. Simon >> >> On 11-09-17 17:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> >>> Would be great to do some sanity checks, e.g., does it build, if not why >>> not, and somebody should try to check it out and do a quick recursive >>> diff >>> with the unzipped donation ZIP file to make sure all files are there. >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, Big milestone -- git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, mirrored at Apache GitHub. Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also for the great support via Apache infra today. Gj >>> >> > -- http://ensode.net - A Guide to Java, Linux and Other Technology Topics My Books: http://www.packtpub.com/authors/profiles/david-heffelfinger My Video Training: http://www.packtpub.com/java-ee-development-with-netbeans-7/video Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ensode
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Also: running 'ant' produces a lot of messages and in the end: BUILD FAILED /home/xxx/apache/incubator-netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:180: Some modules according your cluster config 'full' are missing from checkout, see messages above. On 11-09-17 17:12, Simon IJskes wrote: I'm missing a README or something with the build instructions. G. Simon On 11-09-17 17:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Would be great to do some sanity checks, e.g., does it build, if not why not, and somebody should try to check it out and do a quick recursive diff with the unzipped donation ZIP file to make sure all files are there. Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: Hi all, Big milestone -- git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, mirrored at Apache GitHub. Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also for the great support via Apache infra today. Gj
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
I'm missing a README or something with the build instructions. G. Simon On 11-09-17 17:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Would be great to do some sanity checks, e.g., does it build, if not why not, and somebody should try to check it out and do a quick recursive diff with the unzipped donation ZIP file to make sure all files are there. Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: Hi all, Big milestone -- git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, mirrored at Apache GitHub. Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also for the great support via Apache infra today. Gj
Re: NetBeans has landed in Apache Git
Would be great to do some sanity checks, e.g., does it build, if not why not, and somebody should try to check it out and do a quick recursive diff with the unzipped donation ZIP file to make sure all files are there. Gj On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Big milestone -- > > git://git.apache.org/incubator-netbeans.git > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > The main repo from the 1st code donation has landed in Apache Git, > mirrored at Apache GitHub. > > Thanks all, especially Petr Gebauer, for doing the push, and thanks also > for the great support via Apache infra today. > > Gj >
