[digitalradio] Re: PSKMail -- Path Tests Revisited

2010-04-05 Thread vk2eta
Tony,

Thank you for taking the time to perform the tests.

My anecdotal evidence is at odd with these results. 

So the only way I add value to this discussion is to perform the field test in 
a more controlled way.

Thanks again and best 73s,

John

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote:

 John,
 
 See attached.
 
 Tony -K2MO
 
 
 
 *Minimum SNR (white noise)*
 
 PSK250 -2db
 MFSK32   -8db
 PSK250R  -7db
 
 *Simulation: NVIS  SNR +3db*
 
 ModeCopy
 
 PSK250 62%
 MFSK32  100%
 PSK250R   61%
 
 *Simulation: Selective Fading* *SNR -3db*
 
 PSK250  67%
 MFSK16 95%
 PSK250R76%
 
 *Simulation: CCIR POOR *
 
 *SNR  +3db*
 PSK25089%
 MFSK32  99%
 PSK250R 82%
 
 *SNR -3db*
 PSK25065%
 MFSK32   97%
 PSK250R  61%
 
 
 *SNR  -10db*
 PSK25033%
 MFSK32   46%
 PSK250R  27%





[digitalradio] Re: PSKMail

2010-03-13 Thread vk2eta
Hi Alan,

If you cannot get a connect I would start by checking if any server hears 
you. The simplest and most robust process for this is to send a ping.

I assume you are running jpskmail, the Java version of the pskmail client. If 
so, under the Link drop down menu you will find the Ping command.

If any server listening on the frequency hears you you will get a reply from 
that or these (if several) servers.

This tells you two things: the setup is working and the propagation is 
favorable.

You can then progress onto a connect to a specific server, obviously one which 
replied to your ping.

To check which servers are normally running and which mode and frequencies, 
first have a look at http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers , then check 
the following page http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/pskmail_monitor for the latest 
heard servers to see if it is on air.

The other option is to join the pskmail list here 
http://www.freelists.org/archive/pskmail and send an email to request a sked. 
Having an operator in front of the server for the first time is of great help.

Hope this helps,

73s,

John (VK2ETA)


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Alan ke4...@... wrote:

 Hi all, I've tried to connect to any server and I've yet to connect. Maybe 
 being here in western montana running a 160 loop has something to do with it. 
 But, I do lots of psk qso's and a few other digi modes. I think I have 
 everything setup but never can connect...It looks like a good thing but is 
 getting frustrated trying to use pskmail...just venting..73, Alan





[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail to/from Haiti (or neighbouring countries) ?

2010-01-13 Thread W3FIS


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:

 Any use of Pskmail related to the emergency in Haiti ?  Seems that is
 is tailor made for such a situation.  Short hops from Haiti to servers
 on HF
 
 Andy K3UK


Well,this came across today. this fellow is active on the REGEN group, and 
runs a SWL program out of Radio Havana, I believe.


IARU Region 2 Area C Emergency Coordinator, Arnie Coro, CO2KK, is
coordinating a multi-national response by hams. There are organized
nets on 7.045 and 3.720 MHz; amateurs are asked to monitor the
frequencies, but to also keep them clear of non-essential traffic.
Amateur Radio operators should also be aware that emergency traffic
pertaining to the Haitian earthquake is expected on the SATERN
frequencies of 14.265 MHz, 7.265 MHz and 3977 MHz, according to
SATERN's leader, Major Pat McPherson. The Salvation Army is
accepting health and welfare traffic requests on its Web site.

As late as 9:45 PM local time (0245 UTC), we have not been able to
contact any amateur or emergency services stations in Haiti, Coro
said in an e-mail. Amateurs from Cuba, the Dominican Republic,
Puerto Rico and Venezuela are monitoring the 40 meter band
frequency. We are still keeping watch on 7.045 MHz, hoping that
someone in Haiti may have access to a transceiver and at least a car
battery to run it, but so far. no HH stations have checked in.


/paul W3FIS



Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail to/from Haiti (or neighbouring countries) ?

2010-01-13 Thread Alan Beagley
On 01/13/10 06:46 pm, W3FIS wrote:

 Any use of Pskmail related to the emergency in Haiti ?  Seems that is
 is tailor made for such a situation.  Short hops from Haiti to servers
 on HF

 Well,this came across today. this fellow is active on the REGEN group, 
 and runs a SWL program out of Radio Havana, I believe.


 IARU Region 2 Area C Emergency Coordinator, Arnie Coro, CO2KK, is
 coordinating a multi-national response by hams. There are organized
 nets on 7.045 and 3.720 MHz; amateurs are asked to monitor the
 frequencies, but to also keep them clear of non-essential traffic.
 Amateur Radio operators should also be aware that emergency traffic
 pertaining to the Haitian earthquake is expected on the SATERN
 frequencies of 14.265 MHz, 7.265 MHz and 3977 MHz, according to
 SATERN's leader, Major Pat McPherson. The Salvation Army is
 accepting health and welfare traffic requests on its Web site.

 As late as 9:45 PM local time (0245 UTC), we have not been able to
 contact any amateur or emergency services stations in Haiti, Coro
 said in an e-mail. Amateurs from Cuba, the Dominican Republic,
 Puerto Rico and Venezuela are monitoring the 40 meter band
 frequency. We are still keeping watch on 7.045 MHz, hoping that
 someone in Haiti may have access to a transceiver and at least a car
 battery to run it, but so far. no HH stations have checked in.

For a while this afternoon I listened on 14.300 and 14.313 to HH2JR Jean 
operating with power from a neighbor's generator and getting messages 
via phone patch to people in the US.

He reported that there had been numerous aftershocks since the original, 
then reported another strength 5 shock at approx 1720 EST.

73

Alan NV8A



[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail Server @ NC5O

2009-10-17 Thread ke4nu_7


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Hal iamw8...@... wrote:
I don't care what mode as long as I connect...I'll try it tuesday that is my 
next off day and yes I've tried connecting, I've tried pinging, beaconing,all 
to no avail...Maybe my 160 loop is not getting there, but I can hear em.   
...Alan
 On 10-17, Alan Wilson wrote:
   
 
   Have you tried WB5CON on dial 10147.000 USB +1000Hz audio,
 PSK250?? His signal arrives here in Northern WV almost 100% of the
 time.. (During the day for sure.)
 
   If you're only interested in Thor22; just disregard this..
 -- 
 
 Vy 73 de Hal--W8MCHUNIX-GNU/Linux - Slackware 11.0, 2.4.33.3
 .





[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)

2009-10-10 Thread kf4wbs
THE NEWER SERVERS DO ALLOW THE USER TO SWITCH MODES ON DEMAND AND ALSO 
COMPRESSED E-MAIL HOWEVER YOU UST USE CLIENT 3.7 TO SWITCH MODES AND TO 
HAVE BOTH OPTIONS YOU MUST USE CLIENT VERSION 3.8

DAVID   KF4WBS   MY SERVER IS ON 80 METERS MOST OF THE TIME
 MY SCHEDULE IS AT http://kf4wbs.no-ip.com
 IF YOU CAN NOT CONNECT TO THE ABOVE LINK
 THEN THE STATION IS OFF LINE ... 
 FREQ CHANGES AND TIMES WHEN THE SERVER IS 
 SCHEDULED OFF LINE ARE POSTED THERE 

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote:

 Russell,
 
 The THOR22 mode should do fine. I guess the QSY TRAFFIC option doesn't allow 
 the user to switch modes on demand? Thanks for putting the server up for 
 testing Russell.
 
 Tony -K2MO





[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew O'Brien
.  The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test
 today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm.  I
 was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail.



I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this
was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer
and WB5CON's station.   It worked


- Original Message -
From: aobrien2 stny.rr.com
To: aobrien2 stny.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009
Subject: Test while Internet down


 PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com
 Test from Andy

I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at
home was up and working again.

Russell, your station responds to em like I am connected and I am
not.  Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't
because I am not connected.

Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.

2009-10-07 Thread Rein Couperus
The next server (0.9.17, in test on PI4TUE) uses 3-way handshake on connect, 
which solves the problem.

Rein PA0R

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 Von: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com
 Gesendet: 07.10.09 20:43:15
 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.


 .  The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test
  today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm.  I
  was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail.
 
 
 
 I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this
 was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer
 and WB5CON's station.   It worked
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: aobrien2 stny.rr.com
 To: aobrien2 stny.rr.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009
 Subject: Test while Internet down
 
 
  PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com
  Test from Andy
 
 I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at
 home was up and working again.
 
 Russell, your station responds to em like I am connected and I am
 not.  Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't
 because I am not connected.
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 
 
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: connection for K3UK

2009-10-07 Thread Russell Blair
Andy, yes I saw it tell you that you were connected, and then the server asked 
for your update. The update info is only there for a short time and then the 
server will clear the info out... Well at least you got it to work good, 
hopefully when the new version of server comes out I can get mine updates.
 
Russell

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--- On Wed, 10/7/09, Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:42 PM


  



.  The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test
 today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm.  I
 was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail.


I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this
was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer
and WB5CON's station. It worked

- Original Message -
From: aobrien2 stny.rr.com
To: aobrien2 stny.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009
Subject: Test while Internet down

 PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com
 Test from Andy

I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at
home was up and working again.

Russell, your station responds to em like I am connected and I am
not. Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't
because I am not connected.

Andy K3UK
















  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2008-01-02 Thread Rein Couperus
Flarq is based on pskmail but is not completely compatible.

If there is enough interest I could think of generating a C++ class for 
pskmail, 
that would also make it a bit faster :) Would take some time though.

73,

Rein PA0R

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 Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Gesendet: 01.01.08 16:37:57
 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail


  
  
  
 
  It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable
 form. 
 
 
  The code is complicated enough to need deep involvement to understand. 
  It's not possible to quick-hack it into C. We need the help of the 
  author !
 
 There is a C implementation of flARQ. It uses gtk UI toolkit and there
 is a port of gtk to Windows. I already tried to compile it on Windows
 and connect it to PocketDigi, but there is some work needed, as
 threading and communication between flARQ and flDigi are not directly
 portable to Windows.
 
 AFAIK pskmail slightly extends protocol, that flARQ implements.
 
 73, Vojtech OK1IAK
 
   
  
 

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[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2008-01-01 Thread cesco12342000

 I will think about it. 

It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable form. 
The actual code is not easy to run in windows, i did try and failed.

The actual file-io message transfer system has the advantage to be 
universally usable. It's not linked to a specific psk31 soft, and its not 
even liked to psk31. That's an ideal situation for experiments.

The code is complicated enough to need deep involvement to understand. 
It's not possible to quick-hack it into C. We need the help of the 
author !






[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2008-01-01 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
 It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable
form. 



 The code is complicated enough to need deep involvement to understand. 
 It's not possible to quick-hack it into C. We need the help of the 
 author !

There is a C implementation of flARQ. It uses gtk UI toolkit and there
is a port of gtk to Windows. I already tried to compile it on Windows
and connect it to PocketDigi, but there is some work needed, as
threading and communication between flARQ and flDigi are not directly
portable to Windows.

AFAIK pskmail slightly extends protocol, that flARQ implements.

73, Vojtech OK1IAK




[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL ?

2007-08-31 Thread rich3x
What is the freq for 30m pskmail

  tks, de Rich/N2JR


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have the server on 30 meters only at the moment. I am still trying
 to get a decent antenna at my new QTH and right now I'm testing a 30
meter dipole.
 When I get a better antenna I will start scanning again. PI4TUE was
always on 30
 meters only (scans two frequencies there). As for activity it
varies, sometimes there
 are only aprs position beacons and sometimes its just not quiet at all.
 I cant say anything about the US servers however.
 
 73 de Per, sm0rwo
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:38:28 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 Are the PSKMAIL servers JUST on 30M these days ?  I am
wondering how
 
 active the use of PSKMAIL is .
 
 
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL ?

2007-08-31 Thread Darrel Smith
Most are on 10.148Mhz actual frequency. Listen for beaconing around  
the beginning of the hour, usually 1, 2 or 3 minutes after the hour.  
See my last post for info site.


Darrel

On 31-Aug-07, at 11:49 AM, rich3x wrote:


What is the freq for 30m pskmail

tks, de Rich/N2JR

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have the server on 30 meters only at the moment. I am still trying
 to get a decent antenna at my new QTH and right now I'm testing a 30
meter dipole.
 When I get a better antenna I will start scanning again. PI4TUE was
always on 30
 meters only (scans two frequencies there). As for activity it
varies, sometimes there
 are only aprs position beacons and sometimes its just not quiet  
at all.

 I cant say anything about the US servers however.

 73 de Per, sm0rwo

 - Original Message 
 From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:38:28 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ?













 Are the PSKMAIL servers JUST on 30M these days ? I am
wondering how

 active the use of PSKMAIL is .



 Andy K3UK














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[digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: n5ale server

2007-05-08 Thread Dave Sparks
Just FYI, 14.076 is also used by a growing number of hams working JT65A in 
terrestrial (non-EME) mode.

Does PSKMail incorporate a waterfall display to check for other users on the 
frequency?

73 de AF6AS
Dave

-Original Message-

From:  WN1Z [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj:  [pskmail] Re: n5ale server
Date:  Tue May 8, 2007 11:11 am
Size:  926 bytes
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rich, if you keep it on 14076 thru this coming weekend, i will be sure to try
to connect Sat. or Sun.  The scanning freqs have kept me from trying,
plus reports
(perhaps not accurate) that someone was having no luck connecting at all.

orrin wn1z
in northeastern Calif.
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On 5/8/07, Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fine Rich,

 can you change the wiki (http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers), and
 also indicate which minute
 you are beaconing (by making it bold in the table)?

 Tnx,

 Rein PA0R

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  Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Gesendet: 08.05.07 13:30:11
  An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Betreff: [pskmail] n5ale server


  Folks
 
  I am going to lock down the server on 14.076 for a while so anyone who
 wants to try and connect can do so with out a shifting frequency target.
 
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[digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: Live CD

2007-02-10 Thread Walt DuBose
Per Crusefalk wrote:
 tor 2007-02-08 klockan 21:14 -0600 skrev Walt DuBose:
 
I finally got a copy of the Live CD which came from 
http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/  I couldn't get the 
ones 
on the other mirror servers to work.

This is great.  I now need to run it on this PC and fix the CD drive on the 
another PC I have, a Dell GX-150, and run it on that CD.

I can't wait until I can get my computer connected to my RigBlaster and get 
on-the-air at least with Fldigi.

FLdigi seems so simple to run and I think when I spend more time on PSKMail, 
it 
will also be nice.

Thanks to Rein and all those who helped him on PSKMail and to Dave and his 
helpers on Fldigi...this is super software.

Is there room to put the OpenOffice word processor on the Live CD and an 
OpenSource spreadsheet?

Thanks  73,

Walt/K5YFW
 
 
 I'm glad that it worked for you now. I hope the previous problems were
 just caused by a bad download of the iso. Yes, there is room for
 openoffice, I can test to add it and see how big it gets.
 
 73 de Per, sm0rwo
 

I'm confident that Klint, KE5FMN, who runs mannindustries.net server will check 
this out and make sure that everything is Ok on his end and that it was just 
the 
download that failed.

BTW, let me take this opportunity to say that in talking to a Linux guru who is 
also a guru on Unix and Linux E-Mail servers (originally sendmail) that he said 
that it shouldn't be a problem running a small smtp/pop3 server on the same 
machine as PSKMail and the smtp/pop server could use a 44. domain IP address or 
unrouted domain address so individuals would have E-Mail service that was not 
connected to the Internet.  There surely would have to be some routing tables 
set up so that E-Mail to and from the smtp/pop server went to the local machine 
where the PSKMail server was and also allow the PSKMail server to forward mail 
on to real Internet E-Mail accounts..but he felt that this would not be a 
problem.

73  tnx,

Walt/K5YFW

PS, I'm not a coder, just an idea man trying to find solutions to Amateur 
Radio's big problems.  Hi Hi


Re: [digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: Live CD

2007-02-10 Thread Walt DuBose
Rein Couperus wrote:
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Gesendet: 10.02.07 17:13:36
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: Live CD
 
 
 
Per Crusefalk wrote:

tor 2007-02-08 klockan 21:14 -0600 skrev Walt DuBose:


I finally got a copy of the Live CD which came from 
http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/  I couldn't get the 
ones 
on the other mirror servers to work.

This is great.  I now need to run it on this PC and fix the CD drive on the 
another PC I have, a Dell GX-150, and run it on that CD.

I can't wait until I can get my computer connected to my RigBlaster and get 
on-the-air at least with Fldigi.

FLdigi seems so simple to run and I think when I spend more time on 
PSKMail, it 
will also be nice.

Thanks to Rein and all those who helped him on PSKMail and to Dave and his 
helpers on Fldigi...this is super software.

Is there room to put the OpenOffice word processor on the Live CD and an 
OpenSource spreadsheet?

Thanks  73,

Walt/K5YFW


I'm glad that it worked for you now. I hope the previous problems were
just caused by a bad download of the iso. Yes, there is room for
openoffice, I can test to add it and see how big it gets.

73 de Per, sm0rwo


I'm confident that Klint, KE5FMN, who runs mannindustries.net server will 
check 
this out and make sure that everything is Ok on his end and that it was just 
the 
download that failed.

BTW, let me take this opportunity to say that in talking to a Linux guru who 
is 
also a guru on Unix and Linux E-Mail servers (originally sendmail) that he 
said 
that it shouldn't be a problem running a small smtp/pop3 server on the same 
machine as PSKMail and the smtp/pop server could use a 44. domain IP address 
or 
unrouted domain address so individuals would have E-Mail service that was not 
connected to the Internet.  There surely would have to be some routing tables 
set up so that E-Mail to and from the smtp/pop server went to the local 
machine 
where the PSKMail server was and also allow the PSKMail server to forward 
mail 
on to real Internet E-Mail accounts..but he felt that this would not be a 
problem.

73  tnx,

Walt/K5YFW

PS, I'm not a coder, just an idea man trying to find solutions to Amateur 
Radio's big problems.  Hi Hi


 
 That is not a problem Walt. I have already found some nice perl modules that 
 can do the work.
 
 Rein EA/PA0R/P
 

Rein,

You and all the other guys on you team are too good.

Ok, does that mean that I can just ask you to add this and than you will do it? 
  Hi Hi.  It sure seems like you can.  I've never seen anyone in the MS world 
do 
quite that and that's not to put down all the guys who are writing ham apps for 
MS...and I encourage all the hams writing ham apps for MS to copy what you are 
doing.

Thanks again for your fine work.

73,

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07

2007-01-21 Thread Rein Couperus

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 Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
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 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07


 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I think I will try to connect to a PSKMAIL sever using PSK125 tomorrow
  , UTC 1/21/07, probably around 1300 hours.  For the servers that list
  thy are scanning , does smeone running the client just issue a
  connect command and how that the Server scans that frequency at that
  time ?  I'm assuming a European server on 20M Will be the best option.
 
 Call 0 min. 1 min.2 min.   3 min.4 
 SM0RWO 10148.00 14077.00 18105.00 3595.25 7038.00 Active 
 PSK125   PSK125  PSK125PSK63   PSK125  
 PI4TUE 10147.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 Active 
PSK125   PSK125   PSK125   PSK125   PSK125 
 
 Ok, I'm slowly understanding this.  Looks like my best bet will be 
 SM0RWO at 1 minute on 14077 PSK125 , I doubt I;ll make it on 30M to 
 Europe,
 

14 MHz will be best, or 18105.
SM0RWO's beacon is on, if there is condx you can hear it 1 minute after the 
hour.

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL : Turning an old PC in to a Linux box?

2007-01-21 Thread Rein Couperus
Hi Ralph,

you can get the live CD from the UBUNTU site, www.UBUNTU.com.

They will also send you a bunch of CD's free of charge if you send them an 
email.

All info on their web site.

73,

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 Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL : Turning an old PC in to a Linux box?


 
 Rein,
  Where is the live CD for Ubuntu available from?  I might try 
 that as my friendly Linux mentor prefers FC5 / 6  over Mandrake. I 
 have been testing with the original issue CD (GMFSK) which is not 
 very reliable - server hangs after a couple of hrs, client cursor 
 locks on laptop when screensave times in - so will organise an 
 upgrade soon. I did manage to get the client going on FC4 but wouln't 
 ever want to repeat the procedure now you have CD distros available. 
 Perhaps my Macintosh classic OS background is showing here.
 
 Ralph
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   
   I am interested in trying PSKMAIL but don't want to screw up my 
 PCs 
   that are using Windows XP.  I have an old 500 Hz CPU PC sitting 
 around 
   doing nothing.  What would I need to do to turn this totally in 
 to a 
   linux computer running PSKMAIL ?
   
   Andy K3UK
   
  
  Andy,
  
  First step: upgrade to 256 MB RAM (512 MB is even better) and run 
 the live CD with the preinstalled 
  pskmail server and client. This will tell you if your machine is 
 ready to run a modern Linux.
  
  Look at the pskmail list for help if needed. There are already a 
 number of experimental pskmail servers on the air in the US.
  Info and URL's on http://pskmail.wikispaces.com.
  
  As soon as that works, goto 
  
  step 2: Install the Linux distro from the live CD to the hard drive 
 and enjoy the full power of Linux and
  pskmail.
  
  Or... install UBUNTU 6.06 LTS and install pskmail separately 
 (installation details on the wiki).
  There is also a live CD available for UBUNTU, so you can try it 
 first. I would use the 6.06 LTS (long time support) version, which is 
 very stable and will be supported for 3 years to come...
  
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07

2007-01-21 Thread Per

--- Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
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  Gesendet: 21.01.07 03:27:16
  An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for
 1/21/07
 
 
  
  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew
 O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   I think I will try to connect to a PSKMAIL sever
 using PSK125 tomorrow
   , UTC 1/21/07, probably around 1300 hours.  For
 the servers that list
   thy are scanning , does smeone running the
 client just issue a
   connect command and how that the Server scans
 that frequency at that
   time ?  I'm assuming a European server on 20M
 Will be the best option.
  
  Call 0 min. 1 min.2 min.   3 min.4 
  SM0RWO 10148.00 14077.00 18105.00 3595.25 7038.00
 Active 
  PSK125   PSK125  PSK125PSK63   PSK125 
 
  PI4TUE 10147.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00
 10148.00 Active 
 PSK125   PSK125   PSK125   PSK125   PSK125 
  
  Ok, I'm slowly understanding this.  Looks like my
 best bet will be 
  SM0RWO at 1 minute on 14077 PSK125 , I doubt I;ll
 make it on 30M to 
  Europe,
  
 
 14 MHz will be best, or 18105.
 SM0RWO's beacon is on, if there is condx you can
 hear it 1 minute after the hour.
 
 73,
 
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Hi,

Condx is not the very best so it could be difficult. I
have enabled the beacon on ALL the frequencies in the
scan. If you can hear that then there is hope, the
beacon follows the scan schedule:
Minute 
0  10148
1  14077
2  18105
3  3595,25
4  7038

The beacon is enabled for minutes 0-4 every hour.
I use a 75 meter long delta loop that I feed using an
ATU, output is 100 watts right now. If you can't hear
this station then I recommend looking at the wiki and
joining the pskmail mailing list, some US hams run
servers as well and that could be a better solution.

73 de Per, sm0rwo



 

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[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07

2007-01-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien


I heard a strong signal on 14077 ,brief burst like a beacon, and it 
sounded like PK125.  I had Multipsk open at the time and tried both 
PSK63 and PSK125 but could not decode anything, even though quite 
strong.  This was around 1400 Hrs , brief bursts over a 10 minute 
period.

Andy K3UK
oops , there it goes again at 1407 hrs.


 Condx is not the very best so it could be difficult. I
 have enabled the beacon on ALL the frequencies in the
 scan. If you can hear that then there is hope, the
 beacon follows the scan schedule:
 Minute 
 0  10148
 1  14077
 2  18105
 3  3595,25
 4  7038
 
 The beacon is enabled for minutes 0-4 every hour.
 I use a 75 meter long delta loop that I feed using an
 ATU, output is 100 watts right now. If you can't hear
 this station then I recommend looking at the wiki and
 joining the pskmail mailing list, some US hams run
 servers as well and that could be a better solution.
 
 73 de Per, sm0rwo
 
 
 
  
 
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[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL : Turning an old PC in to a Linux box?

2007-01-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien
-Thanks Chris.  I just burned it as an ISO to a CD-R.  Now I am ready 
to boot the thing.  If you don't here from me for a few days, you 
know I have blown my PC up!

Andy K3UK

-- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Chris Danis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/20/07, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am interested in trying PSKMAIL but don't want to screw up my 
PCs
   that are using Windows XP.  I have an old 500 Hz CPU PC sitting 
around
   doing nothing.  What would I need to do to turn this totally in 
to a
   linux computer running PSKMAIL ?
 
 Andy,
 
 There is a PSKMail live-CD image available:
 
 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/live_distro
 
 If you burn the image to a CD-R (as an ISO image), you'll have a
 bootable CD that will run Linux and PSKMail directly from the CD,
 without touching anything on your computer's hard drive.  Once 
you're
 done, you can reboot, eject the disc, and everything on your 
computer
 is still exactly as it was before.  I believe that the disc also has
 some way to easily install to a hard disk should you choose to do 
so,
 but I'm not sure.  As long as the PC can boot from CD-ROM and has =
 256MB of RAM, you should be fine.
 
 I've never actually tried any of this myself, so if you run into
 troubles, the PSKMail mailing list is definitely where to go:
 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/Mailing+list
 
 best  73,
 -chris N2YYZ





[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07

2007-01-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I think I will try to connect to a PSKMAIL sever using PSK125 tomorrow
 , UTC 1/21/07, probably around 1300 hours.  For the servers that list
 thy are scanning , does smeone running the client just issue a
 connect command and how that the Server scans that frequency at that
 time ?  I'm assuming a European server on 20M Will be the best option.

Call 0 min. 1 min.2 min.   3 min.4 
SM0RWO 10148.00 14077.00 18105.00 3595.25 7038.00 Active 
PSK125   PSK125  PSK125PSK63   PSK125  
PI4TUE 10147.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 Active 
   PSK125   PSK125   PSK125   PSK125   PSK125 

Ok, I'm slowly understanding this.  Looks like my best bet will be 
SM0RWO at 1 minute on 14077 PSK125 , I doubt I;ll make it on 30M to 
Europe,




[digitalradio] Re: PSKMail

2007-01-12 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For some reason I can't get the latest information on PSKMail...actually
 I think the pskmail.org URL and some others are being blocked.  The last
 I info I have is from Rein is dated Aug 2005.
 
 Am I  correct in that PSKMail is now using PSK125 and FLDigi?
 
 I would appreciate direct E-Mail of specs attachments on PSK125 and
 FLDigi sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Txn  73,
 
 Walt/K5YFW


Hi Walt,

Try http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/

73 de Demetre SV1UY



[digitalradio] Re: pskmail

2006-10-05 Thread ArthurLekstutis
Have you looked at Harv's Hamshack Hack? It has a number of PSK 
applications built in, though I don't see pskmail on the list:
http://hamshack-hack.sourceforge.net/

Maybe you can suggest to him to add it?

Artie
KC2MFS

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[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail again

2006-07-09 Thread zl1tbg
I'm struggling a bit to setup PSKmail. Using a new build Fedora C4 
and the latest PSKmail and gmfsk.

there are differeing instructions as to where to locate some items: 
either in usr/local/bin or usr/bin is specified in some of the 
readmes / wiki instructions. Which is correct?

the bit about copy over the special binaries onto gmfsk - move it 
first has got me stuck because its not precisely clear what these 
new binaries are and where they are from or whether I have to find 
them. I have only been running linux for 2 days so expect some 
difficulty here.

GMFSK wont run and I looked up the website and it stated I need FFTW 
first?  I have that now, however it will not configure because the 
gcc or cc compiler (which I had to go and install too) returned an 
error to do with being unable to compile an executable...

I figure that gmfsk wont run because FFTW has not set up fftwlib2... 
yet.

I dont appear to be able to run any of the PSKmail executables yet - 
even via terminal. I prefer to use the GUI but if instructions were 
correct and complete in the first place I should have been up and 
running by now.

Look forward to that time. Apologies for the long post, 73, Ralph
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Installing linux is easy, just go ahead and if you are
 wondering about anything then just ask me.
 PSKMail uses hamlib for rig control (their web site is
 very informative). My IC-706MKIIG is controlled by a
 USB cable but a standard serial cable is just as good.
 COM1 is ttyS0, a usb-cable is ttyUSB0 etc.
 
 73 de Per SM0RWO
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail again

2006-03-17 Thread Per
If pskmail is what you want to try then perhaps
Mandriva or Ubuntu are better choices. Im sure puppy
will work as well but Rein uses Ububtu and I Mandriva
so there are written instructions regarding how to
setup pskmail for those. 

Both of these distros are completely free, I suggest
you download and burn an iso of either.

Mandriva is here:
http://wwwnew.mandriva.com/en/downloads/mirrors/2006iso

Ubuntu is here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/download

My general perception of these two is that Mandriva
has been around longer and is a bit more polished than
Ubuntu. Ubuntu is however coming very strong and is
leading in popularity at distrowatch. There is
commercial stuff available for Mandriva and I believe
Ubuntu has a more purist approach to such.
I believe either to be a good choice, at the moment I
like Mandriva better and Rein uses Ubuntu.

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[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail again

2006-03-16 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Doc, for Puppy, the web site list the following files

-
---
Up to higher level directory

07/19/2005 12:00AM  9,181,647 modules-2.4.29-complete.tar.gz
03/09/2006 01:28AM  Directory pupget_packages-1
09/27/2005 09:00PM  Directory puppy-1.0.1
02/25/2006 04:14AM 64,679,936 puppy-1.0.8r1-mozilla.iso
02/25/2006 01:34AM 60 puppy-1.0.8r1-mozilla.iso.md5.txt
02/25/2006 07:07AM 64,681,984 puppy-multisession-1.0.8r1-
mozilla.iso
02/25/2006 04:20AM 73 puppy-multisession-1.0.8r1-
mozilla.iso.md5.txt
02/26/2006 01:08AM 13,576,606 puppy-unleashed-core-1.0.8r1.tar.gz
02/26/2006 12:23AM 70 puppy-unleashed-core-
1.0.8r1.tar.gz.md5.txt
09/20/2003 12:00AM  1,108 puppy.htm
07/23/2003 12:00AM  5,596 puppy4s.gif
12/30/2005 05:24PM 45,690,880 usr_devx.sfs
12/30/2005 03:02PM 47 usr_devx.sfs.txt

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2006-02-21 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Or implement the TCP proposal that Rein and I worked out...either the 
single-char command one, or the two-socket XML proposal that puts the 
data stream one one socket and the command/response on another.
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 9:58 pm, Per wrote:
 Yes, that could be an option.
 Perhaps an easier way would be to implement some sort
 of IPC interface in one of the psk packages for
 windows? Multipsk was mentioned on this thread, I know
 nothing about it but can you make it report reception
 to one file and watch for the existence of another
 file  (transmit its contents and delete it) ?
 Of course a socket would be better but the files are
 an easy way to get started.

 73 de Per, sm0rwo



 --- Paul L Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It should be noted that the gMFSK *might* be able to
  be be compiled under Cygwin.  Gnome-2, fftw, etc.
  are
  available under Cygwin... it might make for a fairly
  complicated install, but it should be do-able.

  73,

  Paul / K9PS

  Per wrote:
   No windows version, only linux.
   There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when
   that will be available. Its all open source so you
  are
   quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl
  and
   that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK
  that
   will need to be replaced by something else. The
  short
   answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try
  !
  
   73 de Per, sm0rwo
  
  
   --- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows
  users?
  
  -Tommi oh7jjt-
  
  
  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing

  sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than
  
  pactor
  
  in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and
  the
  link fails rarely.
  
  I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you
  
  can
  
  hear it then I can easily add you to the list of
  users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and
  
  quite
  
  a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting
  
  some
  
  surplus military radios that I will use for that
  server so I could put something up on another
  frequency as well.
  
  If you wonder about what it can do then let me
  
  just
  
  say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and
  
  web
  
  browsing using elinks (text based web browsing).
  
  Also,
  
  it handles aprs position updates.
  
  At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation,
  pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing
  needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and
  receives his email. He has aprs position beacons
  
  on
  
  and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs
  
  over
  
  a 2200 km path through pskmail that is.
  
  73 de Per, sm0rwo
  
  

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[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2006-02-20 Thread holopainen_tommi
Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows users?

-Tommi oh7jjt-
 

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing 
 sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than pactor
 in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the
 link fails rarely.
 
 I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you can
 hear it then I can easily add you to the list of
 users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and quite
 a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting some
 surplus military radios that I will use for that
 server so I could put something up on another
 frequency as well.
 
 If you wonder about what it can do then let me just
 say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and web
 browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). Also,
 it handles aprs position updates.
 
 At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation,
 pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing
 needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and
 receives his email. He has aprs position beacons on
 and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs over
 a 2200 km path through pskmail that is.
 
 73 de Per, sm0rwo
 
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2006-02-20 Thread Per
No windows version, only linux.
There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when
that will be available. Its all open source so you are
quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and
that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that
will need to be replaced by something else. The short
answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try !

73 de Per, sm0rwo


--- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows
 users?
 
 -Tommi oh7jjt-
  
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing 
  sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than
 pactor
  in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the
  link fails rarely.
  
  I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you
 can
  hear it then I can easily add you to the list of
  users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and
 quite
  a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting
 some
  surplus military radios that I will use for that
  server so I could put something up on another
  frequency as well.
  
  If you wonder about what it can do then let me
 just
  say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and
 web
  browsing using elinks (text based web browsing).
 Also,
  it handles aprs position updates.
  
  At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation,
  pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing
  needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and
  receives his email. He has aprs position beacons
 on
  and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs
 over
  a 2200 km path through pskmail that is.
  
  73 de Per, sm0rwo
  
  
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2006-02-20 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all,

As a modest alternative to PSKmail under Windows, for the next 3.13 version 
of Multipsk, I'll free all the responder and mail functions of PAX and PAX2 
(ARQ modes derived from Olivia) which are, for instance, available under 
licence (but used by nobody, so...).

73
Patrick


- Original Message - 
From: Per [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail


 No windows version, only linux.
 There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when
 that will be available. Its all open source so you are
 quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and
 that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that
 will need to be replaced by something else. The short
 answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try !

 73 de Per, sm0rwo


 --- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows
 users?

 -Tommi oh7jjt-


 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing
  sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than
 pactor
  in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the
  link fails rarely.
 
  I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you
 can
  hear it then I can easily add you to the list of
  users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and
 quite
  a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting
 some
  surplus military radios that I will use for that
  server so I could put something up on another
  frequency as well.
 
  If you wonder about what it can do then let me
 just
  say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and
 web
  browsing using elinks (text based web browsing).
 Also,
  it handles aprs position updates.
 
  At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation,
  pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing
  needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and
  receives his email. He has aprs position beacons
 on
  and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs
 over
  a 2200 km path through pskmail that is.
 
  73 de Per, sm0rwo
 
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2006-02-20 Thread Paul L Schmidt
It should be noted that the gMFSK *might* be able to
be be compiled under Cygwin.  Gnome-2, fftw, etc. are
available under Cygwin... it might make for a fairly
complicated install, but it should be do-able.

73,

Paul / K9PS

Per wrote:
 No windows version, only linux.
 There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when
 that will be available. Its all open source so you are
 quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and
 that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that
 will need to be replaced by something else. The short
 answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try !
 
 73 de Per, sm0rwo
 
 
 --- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows
users?

-Tommi oh7jjt-
 

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing 
sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than

pactor

in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the
link fails rarely.

I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you

can

hear it then I can easily add you to the list of
users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and

quite

a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting

some

surplus military radios that I will use for that
server so I could put something up on another
frequency as well.

If you wonder about what it can do then let me

just

say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and

web

browsing using elinks (text based web browsing).

Also,

it handles aprs position updates.

At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation,
pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing
needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and
receives his email. He has aprs position beacons

on

and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs

over

a 2200 km path through pskmail that is.

73 de Per, sm0rwo


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[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-11-15 Thread pa0r
Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is mentioned...

I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to
gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first.
Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved?

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jimkovar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paul,
 Thanks for the encouragement and advice.  I had been debating about
 whether Cygwin or Msys would be a better development platform for
 porting linux applications.  I have also been reading your ARQ
 protocol proposal from the pskmail website, and look forward to being
 able to try it out.  
 
 In the mean time, I will be working on an idea Leigh gave me
 concerning psk63srv as a backend for pskmail, maybe using a program in
 the background to write and read files for pskmail, and telnet the
 information to/from port 3131. I had previously tried using the stock
 psk31srv, and found that you needed to  format your input like an
 ax.25 UI packet (well, at at least include a : at the start of the
 text). After thinking about it, you could probably append PSMAIL0:
 to the beginning of a ARQ frame, and send it to psk63srv.  The pskmail
 program on the receiver end should ignore everyting before the initial
 SOH, and APRS users would get a head-up that this was not a position
 report (station ID being handled in the ARQ frame).  Will probably be
 able to work on this more after I go off backshift in a few weeks.
 
 73, KC0HOS - Jim
 
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Paul L Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  A few months back, I was playing around with Cygwin (right after gMFSK
  added Olivia and when there was NO graphical Windows Olivia program),
  and had it almost running with Cygwin and the Cygwin GTK libraries.
  It was going to be bare-bones (i.e. built without gnome and hamlib
  functionality), but it was looking promising.  The Cygwin soundcard
  interface allows using the soundcard as a *nix device -- ioctls, etc.
  (that's how the original Olivia code did it), and GTK is supported...
  so it's really not that unlikely.  Unfortunately, I've just been
  time-constrained and not had much time to play on the computer much
  (including the MT63-ARQ project).  Too many other obligations (work,
  family, church, MARS, RACES, ARES) requiring my time.
  
  73,
  
  Paul / K9PS (3,619 days until retirement)
  
  Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
   I think a 
   more forward-looking approach would be to use port 3131 for data
and 
   another port for control/status and get the protocol implemented
 by PSK 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-11-15 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Rein,
We are actively working on the proposal on the APRPack yahoo group.  Ken 
WB6MLC and I are working with Glenn WB6W who is doing some Windows 
software.  Also Patrick FC6TE is interested for MultuPSK once we get it 
settled.

As APRPack is a smaller group and the activity is a main focus there, I 
would invite you and others interested to discuss it there.  This group 
has a much wider membership and I am afraid it would be overwhelming 
here, just like it was with Olivia.

73,
Leigh / WA5ZNU.
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 9:52 am, pa0r wrote:
 Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is mentioned...

 I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to
 gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first.
 Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved?

 73,

 Rein PA0R

 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jimkovar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Paul,
  Thanks for the encouragement and advice.  I had been debating about
  whether Cygwin or Msys would be a better development platform for
  porting linux applications.  I have also been reading your ARQ
  protocol proposal from the pskmail website, and look forward to being
  able to try it out.

  In the mean time, I will be working on an idea Leigh gave me
  concerning psk63srv as a backend for pskmail, maybe using a program in
  the background to write and read files for pskmail, and telnet the
  information to/from port 3131. I had previously tried using the stock
  psk31srv, and found that you needed to  format your input like an
  ax.25 UI packet (well, at at least include a : at the start of the
  text). After thinking about it, you could probably append PSMAIL0:
  to the beginning of a ARQ frame, and send it to psk63srv.  The pskmail
  program on the receiver end should ignore everyting before the initial
  SOH, and APRS users would get a head-up that this was not a position
  report (station ID being handled in the ARQ frame).  Will probably be
  able to work on this more after I go off backshift in a few weeks.

  73, KC0HOS - Jim


  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Paul L Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   A few months back, I was playing around with Cygwin (right after 
 gMFSK
   added Olivia and when there was NO graphical Windows Olivia 
 program),
   and had it almost running with Cygwin and the Cygwin GTK 
 libraries.
   It was going to be bare-bones (i.e. built without gnome and hamlib
   functionality), but it was looking promising.  The Cygwin soundcard
   interface allows using the soundcard as a *nix device -- ioctls, 
 etc.
   (that's how the original Olivia code did it), and GTK is 
 supported...
   so it's really not that unlikely.  Unfortunately, I've just been
   time-constrained and not had much time to play on the computer much
   (including the MT63-ARQ project).  Too many other obligations (work,
   family, church, MARS, RACES, ARES) requiring my time.
  
   73,
  
   Paul / K9PS (3,619 days until retirement)
  
   Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
I think a
more forward-looking approach would be to use port 3131 for data
 and
another port for control/status and get the protocol implemented
  by PSK
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[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-11-15 Thread jimkovar
Rein,
Let me join Leigh in welcoming you to the digitalradio group.  As he
mentioned, there is also a lot of pskmail discussion on the APRPack
Yahoo group.  I agree that there needs to be a standard for the
proposed socket interface and am in favor of any approach that will
support both APRS messages (in the text-baed APRS-IS format) and
frames as used by pskmail.

73, KC0HOS - Jim

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wrote:

 Rein,
 We are actively working on the proposal on the APRPack yahoo group.
 Ken 
 WB6MLC and I are working with Glenn WB6W who is doing some Windows 
 software.  Also Patrick FC6TE is interested for MultuPSK once we get it 
 settled.
 
 As APRPack is a smaller group and the activity is a main focus there, I 
 would invite you and others interested to discuss it there.  This group 
 has a much wider membership and I am afraid it would be overwhelming 
 here, just like it was with Olivia.
 
 73,
 Leigh / WA5ZNU.
 On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 9:52 am, pa0r wrote:
  Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is
mentioned...
 
  I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to
  gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first.
  Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved?
 
  73,
 
  Rein PA0R
 






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Re: [digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-11-15 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Yes, I agree with Jim -- I want the modem interface to be generic and 
support a wide variety of clients and use cases.  I suggested the 
aprpack list because it is smaller, not because I think it should be 
limited to  APRS or self-spotting.

I implemented an entire remote digimode protocol over TCP and usd a 
binary protocol over a single port for TX, RX, status (phase, spectrum, 
etc.) and control (mode switching, etc.).  Although the server end is 
not running at the moment, the source for one of the clients I wrote is 
at http://wa5znu.org/rpsk (I wrote two clients, one of which runs on 
GPRS-enabled cellphones.)

Leigh / WA5ZNU

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:59 pm, jimkovar wrote:
 Rein,
 Let me join Leigh in welcoming you to the digitalradio group.  As he
 mentioned, there is also a lot of pskmail discussion on the APRPack
 Yahoo group.  I agree that there needs to be a standard for the
 proposed socket interface and am in favor of any approach that will
 support both APRS messages (in the text-baed APRS-IS format) and
 frames as used by pskmail.

 73, KC0HOS - Jim

 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Rein,
  We are actively working on the proposal on the APRPack yahoo group.
  Ken
  WB6MLC and I are working with Glenn WB6W who is doing some Windows
  software.  Also Patrick FC6TE is interested for MultuPSK once we get 
 it
  settled.

  As APRPack is a smaller group and the activity is a main focus there, 
 I
  would invite you and others interested to discuss it there.  This 
 group
  has a much wider membership and I am afraid it would be overwhelming
  here, just like it was with Olivia.

  73,
  Leigh / WA5ZNU.
  On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 9:52 am, pa0r wrote:
   Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is
 mentioned...
  
   I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to
   gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first.
   Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved?
  
   73,
  
   Rein PA0R
  







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[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-11-04 Thread jimkovar
Paul,
Thanks for the encouragement and advice.  I had been debating about
whether Cygwin or Msys would be a better development platform for
porting linux applications.  I have also been reading your ARQ
protocol proposal from the pskmail website, and look forward to being
able to try it out.  

In the mean time, I will be working on an idea Leigh gave me
concerning psk63srv as a backend for pskmail, maybe using a program in
the background to write and read files for pskmail, and telnet the
information to/from port 3131. I had previously tried using the stock
psk31srv, and found that you needed to  format your input like an
ax.25 UI packet (well, at at least include a : at the start of the
text). After thinking about it, you could probably append PSMAIL0:
to the beginning of a ARQ frame, and send it to psk63srv.  The pskmail
program on the receiver end should ignore everyting before the initial
SOH, and APRS users would get a head-up that this was not a position
report (station ID being handled in the ARQ frame).  Will probably be
able to work on this more after I go off backshift in a few weeks.

73, KC0HOS - Jim


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 A few months back, I was playing around with Cygwin (right after gMFSK
 added Olivia and when there was NO graphical Windows Olivia program),
 and had it almost running with Cygwin and the Cygwin GTK libraries.
 It was going to be bare-bones (i.e. built without gnome and hamlib
 functionality), but it was looking promising.  The Cygwin soundcard
 interface allows using the soundcard as a *nix device -- ioctls, etc.
 (that's how the original Olivia code did it), and GTK is supported...
 so it's really not that unlikely.  Unfortunately, I've just been
 time-constrained and not had much time to play on the computer much
 (including the MT63-ARQ project).  Too many other obligations (work,
 family, church, MARS, RACES, ARES) requiring my time.
 
 73,
 
 Paul / K9PS (3,619 days until retirement)
 
 Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
  I think a 
  more forward-looking approach would be to use port 3131 for data and 
  another port for control/status and get the protocol implemented
by PSK 
  Deluxe.






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[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-11-02 Thread jimkovar
Leigh/Ed,
Once you install the necessary Glade/GTK libraries and Perl packages,
pskmail does run using ActiveState Perl on WindowsXP. If you are
interested, I can provide details for setup.

However, I haven't found a port of gMFSK for Windows yet, and haven't
had any success yet porting it myself.  I am interested in any
information you may have regarding Windows soundcard programs that can
transmit text from another program and return received text to that
program.

Since pskmail is designed to send/receive internet emails via a
POP/SMTP server, it should be usable as an email client with
PaclinkPO, giving you direct connectivity into the Winlink2000 system.
 Also, on the wl2kemcomm reflector, one of the developers indicated he
might consider supporting psk63 with pskmail style ARQ as a lower
power / lower throughput alternative to SCAMP.  

73 - KC0HOS - Jim
 
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wrote:

 PSKMail is an app that cooperates with gMFSK and it does so by putting 
 files in directories. (GMFSK is a Linux digimode program.)  I have 
 talked to the developer about using a TCP port instead of files and
sent 
 him patches against gMFSK 0.6 that implement this.
 
 The APRS programs do this same thing, with port 3131.  I hope that we 
 can develop a protocol with TX/RX on port 3131 and control (QSY, mode) 
 and status (waterfall and tuning info) on another port.
 
 With this in hand, and support now from APRS-SCS and possibly MultiPSK 
 and PSK Deluxe and others, we should be able to develop lots of apps 
 that can, like PSKMail, use the digimode back end to talk to the radio, 
 and operate on the data separately.
 
 If anyone is interested in this for Windows, Mac, or Linux, please let 
 me know.  The source for the proof-of-concept Java client I wrote is at 
 http://wa5znu.og/rpsk (the server is not up at the moment but it can 
 be.)
 
 Leigh / WA5ZNU
 
 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 2:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have come across this.  But it runs on psk63.  I wonder how hard
  it would be to port it to winows?
 
  Ed
 
  http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/
 








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[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-10-25 Thread auto43348
I have come across this.  But it runs on psk63.  I wonder how hard 
it would be to port it to winows?

Ed

http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/

   Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:47:32 -0400
   From: Andrew J. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Message from tim ab0wr  re: Winlink-winkink 2000

snip
 
Of course, this will push everyone into buying SCS modems.  
 
If I can find it, there is a fellow in Europe that is developing a 

rival to WL2K using mfsk16 or mfsk32, I believe. It is set up to 
work with jnos or tnos or one of the variants and is written in 
Perl 
if I remember correctly. If I can find his web site, I'll post it. 





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[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-10-25 Thread Dave Bernstein
There are many PSK63 implementations on Windows; the protocol would 
not impede a port.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

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 I have come across this.  But it runs on psk63.  I wonder how hard 
 it would be to port it to winows?
 
 Ed
 
 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/
 
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:47:32 -0400
From: Andrew J. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Message from tim ab0wr  re: Winlink-winkink 2000
 
 snip
  
 Of course, this will push everyone into buying SCS modems.  
  
 If I can find it, there is a fellow in Europe that is developing 
a 
 
 rival to WL2K using mfsk16 or mfsk32, I believe. It is set up to 
 work with jnos or tnos or one of the variants and is written in 
 Perl 
 if I remember correctly. If I can find his web site, I'll post 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000

2005-10-25 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
PSKMail is an app that cooperates with gMFSK and it does so by putting 
files in directories. (GMFSK is a Linux digimode program.)  I have 
talked to the developer about using a TCP port instead of files and sent 
him patches against gMFSK 0.6 that implement this.

The APRS programs do this same thing, with port 3131.  I hope that we 
can develop a protocol with TX/RX on port 3131 and control (QSY, mode) 
and status (waterfall and tuning info) on another port.

With this in hand, and support now from APRS-SCS and possibly MultiPSK 
and PSK Deluxe and others, we should be able to develop lots of apps 
that can, like PSKMail, use the digimode back end to talk to the radio, 
and operate on the data separately.

If anyone is interested in this for Windows, Mac, or Linux, please let 
me know.  The source for the proof-of-concept Java client I wrote is at 
http://wa5znu.og/rpsk (the server is not up at the moment but it can 
be.)

Leigh / WA5ZNU

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 2:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have come across this.  But it runs on psk63.  I wonder how hard
 it would be to port it to winows?

 Ed

 http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/



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