[digitalradio] Re: PSKMail -- Path Tests Revisited
Tony, Thank you for taking the time to perform the tests. My anecdotal evidence is at odd with these results. So the only way I add value to this discussion is to perform the field test in a more controlled way. Thanks again and best 73s, John --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote: John, See attached. Tony -K2MO *Minimum SNR (white noise)* PSK250 -2db MFSK32 -8db PSK250R -7db *Simulation: NVIS SNR +3db* ModeCopy PSK250 62% MFSK32 100% PSK250R 61% *Simulation: Selective Fading* *SNR -3db* PSK250 67% MFSK16 95% PSK250R76% *Simulation: CCIR POOR * *SNR +3db* PSK25089% MFSK32 99% PSK250R 82% *SNR -3db* PSK25065% MFSK32 97% PSK250R 61% *SNR -10db* PSK25033% MFSK32 46% PSK250R 27%
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMail
Hi Alan, If you cannot get a connect I would start by checking if any server hears you. The simplest and most robust process for this is to send a ping. I assume you are running jpskmail, the Java version of the pskmail client. If so, under the Link drop down menu you will find the Ping command. If any server listening on the frequency hears you you will get a reply from that or these (if several) servers. This tells you two things: the setup is working and the propagation is favorable. You can then progress onto a connect to a specific server, obviously one which replied to your ping. To check which servers are normally running and which mode and frequencies, first have a look at http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers , then check the following page http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/pskmail_monitor for the latest heard servers to see if it is on air. The other option is to join the pskmail list here http://www.freelists.org/archive/pskmail and send an email to request a sked. Having an operator in front of the server for the first time is of great help. Hope this helps, 73s, John (VK2ETA) --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Alan ke4...@... wrote: Hi all, I've tried to connect to any server and I've yet to connect. Maybe being here in western montana running a 160 loop has something to do with it. But, I do lots of psk qso's and a few other digi modes. I think I have everything setup but never can connect...It looks like a good thing but is getting frustrated trying to use pskmail...just venting..73, Alan
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail to/from Haiti (or neighbouring countries) ?
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Any use of Pskmail related to the emergency in Haiti ? Seems that is is tailor made for such a situation. Short hops from Haiti to servers on HF Andy K3UK Well,this came across today. this fellow is active on the REGEN group, and runs a SWL program out of Radio Havana, I believe. IARU Region 2 Area C Emergency Coordinator, Arnie Coro, CO2KK, is coordinating a multi-national response by hams. There are organized nets on 7.045 and 3.720 MHz; amateurs are asked to monitor the frequencies, but to also keep them clear of non-essential traffic. Amateur Radio operators should also be aware that emergency traffic pertaining to the Haitian earthquake is expected on the SATERN frequencies of 14.265 MHz, 7.265 MHz and 3977 MHz, according to SATERN's leader, Major Pat McPherson. The Salvation Army is accepting health and welfare traffic requests on its Web site. As late as 9:45 PM local time (0245 UTC), we have not been able to contact any amateur or emergency services stations in Haiti, Coro said in an e-mail. Amateurs from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and Venezuela are monitoring the 40 meter band frequency. We are still keeping watch on 7.045 MHz, hoping that someone in Haiti may have access to a transceiver and at least a car battery to run it, but so far. no HH stations have checked in. /paul W3FIS
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail to/from Haiti (or neighbouring countries) ?
On 01/13/10 06:46 pm, W3FIS wrote: Any use of Pskmail related to the emergency in Haiti ? Seems that is is tailor made for such a situation. Short hops from Haiti to servers on HF Well,this came across today. this fellow is active on the REGEN group, and runs a SWL program out of Radio Havana, I believe. IARU Region 2 Area C Emergency Coordinator, Arnie Coro, CO2KK, is coordinating a multi-national response by hams. There are organized nets on 7.045 and 3.720 MHz; amateurs are asked to monitor the frequencies, but to also keep them clear of non-essential traffic. Amateur Radio operators should also be aware that emergency traffic pertaining to the Haitian earthquake is expected on the SATERN frequencies of 14.265 MHz, 7.265 MHz and 3977 MHz, according to SATERN's leader, Major Pat McPherson. The Salvation Army is accepting health and welfare traffic requests on its Web site. As late as 9:45 PM local time (0245 UTC), we have not been able to contact any amateur or emergency services stations in Haiti, Coro said in an e-mail. Amateurs from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and Venezuela are monitoring the 40 meter band frequency. We are still keeping watch on 7.045 MHz, hoping that someone in Haiti may have access to a transceiver and at least a car battery to run it, but so far. no HH stations have checked in. For a while this afternoon I listened on 14.300 and 14.313 to HH2JR Jean operating with power from a neighbor's generator and getting messages via phone patch to people in the US. He reported that there had been numerous aftershocks since the original, then reported another strength 5 shock at approx 1720 EST. 73 Alan NV8A
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail Server @ NC5O
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Hal iamw8...@... wrote: I don't care what mode as long as I connect...I'll try it tuesday that is my next off day and yes I've tried connecting, I've tried pinging, beaconing,all to no avail...Maybe my 160 loop is not getting there, but I can hear em. ...Alan On 10-17, Alan Wilson wrote: Have you tried WB5CON on dial 10147.000 USB +1000Hz audio, PSK250?? His signal arrives here in Northern WV almost 100% of the time.. (During the day for sure.) If you're only interested in Thor22; just disregard this.. -- Vy 73 de Hal--W8MCHUNIX-GNU/Linux - Slackware 11.0, 2.4.33.3 .
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)
THE NEWER SERVERS DO ALLOW THE USER TO SWITCH MODES ON DEMAND AND ALSO COMPRESSED E-MAIL HOWEVER YOU UST USE CLIENT 3.7 TO SWITCH MODES AND TO HAVE BOTH OPTIONS YOU MUST USE CLIENT VERSION 3.8 DAVID KF4WBS MY SERVER IS ON 80 METERS MOST OF THE TIME MY SCHEDULE IS AT http://kf4wbs.no-ip.com IF YOU CAN NOT CONNECT TO THE ABOVE LINK THEN THE STATION IS OFF LINE ... FREQ CHANGES AND TIMES WHEN THE SERVER IS SCHEDULED OFF LINE ARE POSTED THERE --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote: Russell, The THOR22 mode should do fine. I guess the QSY TRAFFIC option doesn't allow the user to switch modes on demand? Thanks for putting the server up for testing Russell. Tony -K2MO
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.
. The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm. I was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail. I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer and WB5CON's station. It worked - Original Message - From: aobrien2 stny.rr.com To: aobrien2 stny.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 Subject: Test while Internet down PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com Test from Andy I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at home was up and working again. Russell, your station responds to em like I am connected and I am not. Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't because I am not connected. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.
The next server (0.9.17, in test on PI4TUE) uses 3-way handshake on connect, which solves the problem. Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com Gesendet: 07.10.09 20:43:15 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish. . The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm. I was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail. I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer and WB5CON's station. It worked - Original Message - From: aobrien2 stny.rr.com To: aobrien2 stny.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 Subject: Test while Internet down PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com Test from Andy I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at home was up and working again. Russell, your station responds to em like I am connected and I am not. Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't because I am not connected. Andy K3UK Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: connection for K3UK
Andy, yes I saw it tell you that you were connected, and then the server asked for your update. The update info is only there for a short time and then the server will clear the info out... Well at least you got it to work good, hopefully when the new version of server comes out I can get mine updates. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish. To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:42 PM . The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm. I was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail. I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer and WB5CON's station. It worked - Original Message - From: aobrien2 stny.rr.com To: aobrien2 stny.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 Subject: Test while Internet down PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com Test from Andy I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at home was up and working again. Russell, your station responds to em like I am connected and I am not. Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't because I am not connected. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
Flarq is based on pskmail but is not completely compatible. If there is enough interest I could think of generating a C++ class for pskmail, that would also make it a bit faster :) Would take some time though. 73, Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 01.01.08 16:37:57 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable form. The code is complicated enough to need deep involvement to understand. It's not possible to quick-hack it into C. We need the help of the author ! There is a C implementation of flARQ. It uses gtk UI toolkit and there is a port of gtk to Windows. I already tried to compile it on Windows and connect it to PocketDigi, but there is some work needed, as threading and communication between flARQ and flDigi are not directly portable to Windows. AFAIK pskmail slightly extends protocol, that flARQ implements. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
I will think about it. It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable form. The actual code is not easy to run in windows, i did try and failed. The actual file-io message transfer system has the advantage to be universally usable. It's not linked to a specific psk31 soft, and its not even liked to psk31. That's an ideal situation for experiments. The code is complicated enough to need deep involvement to understand. It's not possible to quick-hack it into C. We need the help of the author !
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable form. The code is complicated enough to need deep involvement to understand. It's not possible to quick-hack it into C. We need the help of the author ! There is a C implementation of flARQ. It uses gtk UI toolkit and there is a port of gtk to Windows. I already tried to compile it on Windows and connect it to PocketDigi, but there is some work needed, as threading and communication between flARQ and flDigi are not directly portable to Windows. AFAIK pskmail slightly extends protocol, that flARQ implements. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL ?
What is the freq for 30m pskmail tks, de Rich/N2JR --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the server on 30 meters only at the moment. I am still trying to get a decent antenna at my new QTH and right now I'm testing a 30 meter dipole. When I get a better antenna I will start scanning again. PI4TUE was always on 30 meters only (scans two frequencies there). As for activity it varies, sometimes there are only aprs position beacons and sometimes its just not quiet at all. I cant say anything about the US servers however. 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:38:28 PM Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ? Are the PSKMAIL servers JUST on 30M these days ? I am wondering how active the use of PSKMAIL is . Andy K3UK !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} -- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL ?
Most are on 10.148Mhz actual frequency. Listen for beaconing around the beginning of the hour, usually 1, 2 or 3 minutes after the hour. See my last post for info site. Darrel On 31-Aug-07, at 11:49 AM, rich3x wrote: What is the freq for 30m pskmail tks, de Rich/N2JR --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the server on 30 meters only at the moment. I am still trying to get a decent antenna at my new QTH and right now I'm testing a 30 meter dipole. When I get a better antenna I will start scanning again. PI4TUE was always on 30 meters only (scans two frequencies there). As for activity it varies, sometimes there are only aprs position beacons and sometimes its just not quiet at all. I cant say anything about the US servers however. 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:38:28 PM Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ? Are the PSKMAIL servers JUST on 30M these days ? I am wondering how active the use of PSKMAIL is . Andy K3UK !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height: 122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size: 100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} -- __ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
[digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: n5ale server
Just FYI, 14.076 is also used by a growing number of hams working JT65A in terrestrial (non-EME) mode. Does PSKMail incorporate a waterfall display to check for other users on the frequency? 73 de AF6AS Dave -Original Message- From: WN1Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: [pskmail] Re: n5ale server Date: Tue May 8, 2007 11:11 am Size: 926 bytes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich, if you keep it on 14076 thru this coming weekend, i will be sure to try to connect Sat. or Sun. The scanning freqs have kept me from trying, plus reports (perhaps not accurate) that someone was having no luck connecting at all. orrin wn1z in northeastern Calif. CN90qk On 5/8/07, Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine Rich, can you change the wiki (http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers), and also indicate which minute you are beaconing (by making it bold in the table)? Tnx, Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 08.05.07 13:30:11 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [pskmail] n5ale server Folks I am going to lock down the server on 14.076 for a while so anyone who wants to try and connect can do so with out a shifting frequency target. Rich -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com
[digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: Live CD
Per Crusefalk wrote: tor 2007-02-08 klockan 21:14 -0600 skrev Walt DuBose: I finally got a copy of the Live CD which came from http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/ I couldn't get the ones on the other mirror servers to work. This is great. I now need to run it on this PC and fix the CD drive on the another PC I have, a Dell GX-150, and run it on that CD. I can't wait until I can get my computer connected to my RigBlaster and get on-the-air at least with Fldigi. FLdigi seems so simple to run and I think when I spend more time on PSKMail, it will also be nice. Thanks to Rein and all those who helped him on PSKMail and to Dave and his helpers on Fldigi...this is super software. Is there room to put the OpenOffice word processor on the Live CD and an OpenSource spreadsheet? Thanks 73, Walt/K5YFW I'm glad that it worked for you now. I hope the previous problems were just caused by a bad download of the iso. Yes, there is room for openoffice, I can test to add it and see how big it gets. 73 de Per, sm0rwo I'm confident that Klint, KE5FMN, who runs mannindustries.net server will check this out and make sure that everything is Ok on his end and that it was just the download that failed. BTW, let me take this opportunity to say that in talking to a Linux guru who is also a guru on Unix and Linux E-Mail servers (originally sendmail) that he said that it shouldn't be a problem running a small smtp/pop3 server on the same machine as PSKMail and the smtp/pop server could use a 44. domain IP address or unrouted domain address so individuals would have E-Mail service that was not connected to the Internet. There surely would have to be some routing tables set up so that E-Mail to and from the smtp/pop server went to the local machine where the PSKMail server was and also allow the PSKMail server to forward mail on to real Internet E-Mail accounts..but he felt that this would not be a problem. 73 tnx, Walt/K5YFW PS, I'm not a coder, just an idea man trying to find solutions to Amateur Radio's big problems. Hi Hi
Re: [digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: Live CD
Rein Couperus wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 10.02.07 17:13:36 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: [pskmail] Re: Live CD Per Crusefalk wrote: tor 2007-02-08 klockan 21:14 -0600 skrev Walt DuBose: I finally got a copy of the Live CD which came from http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/ I couldn't get the ones on the other mirror servers to work. This is great. I now need to run it on this PC and fix the CD drive on the another PC I have, a Dell GX-150, and run it on that CD. I can't wait until I can get my computer connected to my RigBlaster and get on-the-air at least with Fldigi. FLdigi seems so simple to run and I think when I spend more time on PSKMail, it will also be nice. Thanks to Rein and all those who helped him on PSKMail and to Dave and his helpers on Fldigi...this is super software. Is there room to put the OpenOffice word processor on the Live CD and an OpenSource spreadsheet? Thanks 73, Walt/K5YFW I'm glad that it worked for you now. I hope the previous problems were just caused by a bad download of the iso. Yes, there is room for openoffice, I can test to add it and see how big it gets. 73 de Per, sm0rwo I'm confident that Klint, KE5FMN, who runs mannindustries.net server will check this out and make sure that everything is Ok on his end and that it was just the download that failed. BTW, let me take this opportunity to say that in talking to a Linux guru who is also a guru on Unix and Linux E-Mail servers (originally sendmail) that he said that it shouldn't be a problem running a small smtp/pop3 server on the same machine as PSKMail and the smtp/pop server could use a 44. domain IP address or unrouted domain address so individuals would have E-Mail service that was not connected to the Internet. There surely would have to be some routing tables set up so that E-Mail to and from the smtp/pop server went to the local machine where the PSKMail server was and also allow the PSKMail server to forward mail on to real Internet E-Mail accounts..but he felt that this would not be a problem. 73 tnx, Walt/K5YFW PS, I'm not a coder, just an idea man trying to find solutions to Amateur Radio's big problems. Hi Hi That is not a problem Walt. I have already found some nice perl modules that can do the work. Rein EA/PA0R/P Rein, You and all the other guys on you team are too good. Ok, does that mean that I can just ask you to add this and than you will do it? Hi Hi. It sure seems like you can. I've never seen anyone in the MS world do quite that and that's not to put down all the guys who are writing ham apps for MS...and I encourage all the hams writing ham apps for MS to copy what you are doing. Thanks again for your fine work. 73, Walt/K5YFW Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 21.01.07 03:27:16 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I will try to connect to a PSKMAIL sever using PSK125 tomorrow , UTC 1/21/07, probably around 1300 hours. For the servers that list thy are scanning , does smeone running the client just issue a connect command and how that the Server scans that frequency at that time ? I'm assuming a European server on 20M Will be the best option. Call 0 min. 1 min.2 min. 3 min.4 SM0RWO 10148.00 14077.00 18105.00 3595.25 7038.00 Active PSK125 PSK125 PSK125PSK63 PSK125 PI4TUE 10147.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 Active PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 Ok, I'm slowly understanding this. Looks like my best bet will be SM0RWO at 1 minute on 14077 PSK125 , I doubt I;ll make it on 30M to Europe, 14 MHz will be best, or 18105. SM0RWO's beacon is on, if there is condx you can hear it 1 minute after the hour. 73, Rein EA/PA0R/P -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL : Turning an old PC in to a Linux box?
Hi Ralph, you can get the live CD from the UBUNTU site, www.UBUNTU.com. They will also send you a bunch of CD's free of charge if you send them an email. All info on their web site. 73, Rein EA/PA0R/P -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 20.01.07 23:46:44 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL : Turning an old PC in to a Linux box? Rein, Where is the live CD for Ubuntu available from? I might try that as my friendly Linux mentor prefers FC5 / 6 over Mandrake. I have been testing with the original issue CD (GMFSK) which is not very reliable - server hangs after a couple of hrs, client cursor locks on laptop when screensave times in - so will organise an upgrade soon. I did manage to get the client going on FC4 but wouln't ever want to repeat the procedure now you have CD distros available. Perhaps my Macintosh classic OS background is showing here. Ralph --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested in trying PSKMAIL but don't want to screw up my PCs that are using Windows XP. I have an old 500 Hz CPU PC sitting around doing nothing. What would I need to do to turn this totally in to a linux computer running PSKMAIL ? Andy K3UK Andy, First step: upgrade to 256 MB RAM (512 MB is even better) and run the live CD with the preinstalled pskmail server and client. This will tell you if your machine is ready to run a modern Linux. Look at the pskmail list for help if needed. There are already a number of experimental pskmail servers on the air in the US. Info and URL's on http://pskmail.wikispaces.com. As soon as that works, goto step 2: Install the Linux distro from the live CD to the hard drive and enjoy the full power of Linux and pskmail. Or... install UBUNTU 6.06 LTS and install pskmail separately (installation details on the wiki). There is also a live CD available for UBUNTU, so you can try it first. I would use the 6.06 LTS (long time support) version, which is very stable and will be supported for 3 years to come... 73, Rein PA0R -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07
--- Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 21.01.07 03:27:16 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I will try to connect to a PSKMAIL sever using PSK125 tomorrow , UTC 1/21/07, probably around 1300 hours. For the servers that list thy are scanning , does smeone running the client just issue a connect command and how that the Server scans that frequency at that time ? I'm assuming a European server on 20M Will be the best option. Call 0 min. 1 min.2 min. 3 min.4 SM0RWO 10148.00 14077.00 18105.00 3595.25 7038.00 Active PSK125 PSK125 PSK125PSK63 PSK125 PI4TUE 10147.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 Active PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 Ok, I'm slowly understanding this. Looks like my best bet will be SM0RWO at 1 minute on 14077 PSK125 , I doubt I;ll make it on 30M to Europe, 14 MHz will be best, or 18105. SM0RWO's beacon is on, if there is condx you can hear it 1 minute after the hour. 73, Rein EA/PA0R/P -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Hi, Condx is not the very best so it could be difficult. I have enabled the beacon on ALL the frequencies in the scan. If you can hear that then there is hope, the beacon follows the scan schedule: Minute 0 10148 1 14077 2 18105 3 3595,25 4 7038 The beacon is enabled for minutes 0-4 every hour. I use a 75 meter long delta loop that I feed using an ATU, output is 100 watts right now. If you can't hear this station then I recommend looking at the wiki and joining the pskmail mailing list, some US hams run servers as well and that could be a better solution. 73 de Per, sm0rwo TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07
I heard a strong signal on 14077 ,brief burst like a beacon, and it sounded like PK125. I had Multipsk open at the time and tried both PSK63 and PSK125 but could not decode anything, even though quite strong. This was around 1400 Hrs , brief bursts over a 10 minute period. Andy K3UK oops , there it goes again at 1407 hrs. Condx is not the very best so it could be difficult. I have enabled the beacon on ALL the frequencies in the scan. If you can hear that then there is hope, the beacon follows the scan schedule: Minute 0 10148 1 14077 2 18105 3 3595,25 4 7038 The beacon is enabled for minutes 0-4 every hour. I use a 75 meter long delta loop that I feed using an ATU, output is 100 watts right now. If you can't hear this station then I recommend looking at the wiki and joining the pskmail mailing list, some US hams run servers as well and that could be a better solution. 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ __ TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL : Turning an old PC in to a Linux box?
-Thanks Chris. I just burned it as an ISO to a CD-R. Now I am ready to boot the thing. If you don't here from me for a few days, you know I have blown my PC up! Andy K3UK -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Chris Danis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/20/07, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested in trying PSKMAIL but don't want to screw up my PCs that are using Windows XP. I have an old 500 Hz CPU PC sitting around doing nothing. What would I need to do to turn this totally in to a linux computer running PSKMAIL ? Andy, There is a PSKMail live-CD image available: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/live_distro If you burn the image to a CD-R (as an ISO image), you'll have a bootable CD that will run Linux and PSKMail directly from the CD, without touching anything on your computer's hard drive. Once you're done, you can reboot, eject the disc, and everything on your computer is still exactly as it was before. I believe that the disc also has some way to easily install to a hard disk should you choose to do so, but I'm not sure. As long as the PC can boot from CD-ROM and has = 256MB of RAM, you should be fine. I've never actually tried any of this myself, so if you run into troubles, the PSKMail mailing list is definitely where to go: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/Mailing+list best 73, -chris N2YYZ
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I will try to connect to a PSKMAIL sever using PSK125 tomorrow , UTC 1/21/07, probably around 1300 hours. For the servers that list thy are scanning , does smeone running the client just issue a connect command and how that the Server scans that frequency at that time ? I'm assuming a European server on 20M Will be the best option. Call 0 min. 1 min.2 min. 3 min.4 SM0RWO 10148.00 14077.00 18105.00 3595.25 7038.00 Active PSK125 PSK125 PSK125PSK63 PSK125 PI4TUE 10147.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 Active PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 Ok, I'm slowly understanding this. Looks like my best bet will be SM0RWO at 1 minute on 14077 PSK125 , I doubt I;ll make it on 30M to Europe,
[digitalradio] Re: PSKMail
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason I can't get the latest information on PSKMail...actually I think the pskmail.org URL and some others are being blocked. The last I info I have is from Rein is dated Aug 2005. Am I correct in that PSKMail is now using PSK125 and FLDigi? I would appreciate direct E-Mail of specs attachments on PSK125 and FLDigi sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Txn 73, Walt/K5YFW Hi Walt, Try http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/ 73 de Demetre SV1UY
[digitalradio] Re: pskmail
Have you looked at Harv's Hamshack Hack? It has a number of PSK applications built in, though I don't see pskmail on the list: http://hamshack-hack.sourceforge.net/ Maybe you can suggest to him to add it? Artie KC2MFS --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which live cd has this program ? david/wd4kpd Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail again
I'm struggling a bit to setup PSKmail. Using a new build Fedora C4 and the latest PSKmail and gmfsk. there are differeing instructions as to where to locate some items: either in usr/local/bin or usr/bin is specified in some of the readmes / wiki instructions. Which is correct? the bit about copy over the special binaries onto gmfsk - move it first has got me stuck because its not precisely clear what these new binaries are and where they are from or whether I have to find them. I have only been running linux for 2 days so expect some difficulty here. GMFSK wont run and I looked up the website and it stated I need FFTW first? I have that now, however it will not configure because the gcc or cc compiler (which I had to go and install too) returned an error to do with being unable to compile an executable... I figure that gmfsk wont run because FFTW has not set up fftwlib2... yet. I dont appear to be able to run any of the PSKmail executables yet - even via terminal. I prefer to use the GUI but if instructions were correct and complete in the first place I should have been up and running by now. Look forward to that time. Apologies for the long post, 73, Ralph --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Installing linux is easy, just go ahead and if you are wondering about anything then just ask me. PSKMail uses hamlib for rig control (their web site is very informative). My IC-706MKIIG is controlled by a USB cable but a standard serial cable is just as good. COM1 is ttyS0, a usb-cable is ttyUSB0 etc. 73 de Per SM0RWO P.s Let me know when u want to log on to pskmail, I'll add you to the server. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail again
If pskmail is what you want to try then perhaps Mandriva or Ubuntu are better choices. Im sure puppy will work as well but Rein uses Ububtu and I Mandriva so there are written instructions regarding how to setup pskmail for those. Both of these distros are completely free, I suggest you download and burn an iso of either. Mandriva is here: http://wwwnew.mandriva.com/en/downloads/mirrors/2006iso Ubuntu is here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download My general perception of these two is that Mandriva has been around longer and is a bit more polished than Ubuntu. Ubuntu is however coming very strong and is leading in popularity at distrowatch. There is commercial stuff available for Mandriva and I believe Ubuntu has a more purist approach to such. I believe either to be a good choice, at the moment I like Mandriva better and Rein uses Ubuntu. 73 de Per SM0RWO __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail again
Doc, for Puppy, the web site list the following files - --- Up to higher level directory 07/19/2005 12:00AM 9,181,647 modules-2.4.29-complete.tar.gz 03/09/2006 01:28AM Directory pupget_packages-1 09/27/2005 09:00PM Directory puppy-1.0.1 02/25/2006 04:14AM 64,679,936 puppy-1.0.8r1-mozilla.iso 02/25/2006 01:34AM 60 puppy-1.0.8r1-mozilla.iso.md5.txt 02/25/2006 07:07AM 64,681,984 puppy-multisession-1.0.8r1- mozilla.iso 02/25/2006 04:20AM 73 puppy-multisession-1.0.8r1- mozilla.iso.md5.txt 02/26/2006 01:08AM 13,576,606 puppy-unleashed-core-1.0.8r1.tar.gz 02/26/2006 12:23AM 70 puppy-unleashed-core- 1.0.8r1.tar.gz.md5.txt 09/20/2003 12:00AM 1,108 puppy.htm 07/23/2003 12:00AM 5,596 puppy4s.gif 12/30/2005 05:24PM 45,690,880 usr_devx.sfs 12/30/2005 03:02PM 47 usr_devx.sfs.txt -- Do I need all of them ? Andy K3UK Try Puppy Linux as it about installs itself, requires minimal resources to run and to use of your HDD space, and will either dual-load alongside your MS version of windows or run from the CD. http://puppylinux.com/ It is a complete OS that includes office apps and other apps, plus a bunch of others to download. There are also multiple versions created by users that emphasize graphics or small size or office use, etc. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
Or implement the TCP proposal that Rein and I worked out...either the single-char command one, or the two-socket XML proposal that puts the data stream one one socket and the command/response on another. On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 9:58 pm, Per wrote: Yes, that could be an option. Perhaps an easier way would be to implement some sort of IPC interface in one of the psk packages for windows? Multipsk was mentioned on this thread, I know nothing about it but can you make it report reception to one file and watch for the existence of another file (transmit its contents and delete it) ? Of course a socket would be better but the files are an easy way to get started. 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- Paul L Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should be noted that the gMFSK *might* be able to be be compiled under Cygwin. Gnome-2, fftw, etc. are available under Cygwin... it might make for a fairly complicated install, but it should be do-able. 73, Paul / K9PS Per wrote: No windows version, only linux. There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when that will be available. Its all open source so you are quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that will need to be replaced by something else. The short answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try ! 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows users? -Tommi oh7jjt- --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than pactor in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the link fails rarely. I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you can hear it then I can easily add you to the list of users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and quite a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting some surplus military radios that I will use for that server so I could put something up on another frequency as well. If you wonder about what it can do then let me just say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and web browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). Also, it handles aprs position updates. At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and receives his email. He has aprs position beacons on and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs over a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows users? -Tommi oh7jjt- --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than pactor in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the link fails rarely. I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you can hear it then I can easily add you to the list of users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and quite a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting some surplus military radios that I will use for that server so I could put something up on another frequency as well. If you wonder about what it can do then let me just say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and web browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). Also, it handles aprs position updates. At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and receives his email. He has aprs position beacons on and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs over a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
No windows version, only linux. There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when that will be available. Its all open source so you are quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that will need to be replaced by something else. The short answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try ! 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows users? -Tommi oh7jjt- --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than pactor in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the link fails rarely. I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you can hear it then I can easily add you to the list of users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and quite a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting some surplus military radios that I will use for that server so I could put something up on another frequency as well. If you wonder about what it can do then let me just say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and web browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). Also, it handles aprs position updates. At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and receives his email. He has aprs position beacons on and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs over a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
Hello to all, As a modest alternative to PSKmail under Windows, for the next 3.13 version of Multipsk, I'll free all the responder and mail functions of PAX and PAX2 (ARQ modes derived from Olivia) which are, for instance, available under licence (but used by nobody, so...). 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail No windows version, only linux. There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when that will be available. Its all open source so you are quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that will need to be replaced by something else. The short answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try ! 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows users? -Tommi oh7jjt- --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than pactor in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the link fails rarely. I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you can hear it then I can easily add you to the list of users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and quite a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting some surplus military radios that I will use for that server so I could put something up on another frequency as well. If you wonder about what it can do then let me just say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and web browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). Also, it handles aprs position updates. At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and receives his email. He has aprs position beacons on and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs over a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
It should be noted that the gMFSK *might* be able to be be compiled under Cygwin. Gnome-2, fftw, etc. are available under Cygwin... it might make for a fairly complicated install, but it should be do-able. 73, Paul / K9PS Per wrote: No windows version, only linux. There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when that will be available. Its all open source so you are quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that will need to be replaced by something else. The short answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try ! 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- holopainen_tommi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows users? -Tommi oh7jjt- --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than pactor in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the link fails rarely. I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you can hear it then I can easily add you to the list of users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and quite a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting some surplus military radios that I will use for that server so I could put something up on another frequency as well. If you wonder about what it can do then let me just say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and web browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). Also, it handles aprs position updates. At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and receives his email. He has aprs position beacons on and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs over a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is mentioned... I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first. Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved? 73, Rein PA0R --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jimkovar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Thanks for the encouragement and advice. I had been debating about whether Cygwin or Msys would be a better development platform for porting linux applications. I have also been reading your ARQ protocol proposal from the pskmail website, and look forward to being able to try it out. In the mean time, I will be working on an idea Leigh gave me concerning psk63srv as a backend for pskmail, maybe using a program in the background to write and read files for pskmail, and telnet the information to/from port 3131. I had previously tried using the stock psk31srv, and found that you needed to format your input like an ax.25 UI packet (well, at at least include a : at the start of the text). After thinking about it, you could probably append PSMAIL0: to the beginning of a ARQ frame, and send it to psk63srv. The pskmail program on the receiver end should ignore everyting before the initial SOH, and APRS users would get a head-up that this was not a position report (station ID being handled in the ARQ frame). Will probably be able to work on this more after I go off backshift in a few weeks. 73, KC0HOS - Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Paul L Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months back, I was playing around with Cygwin (right after gMFSK added Olivia and when there was NO graphical Windows Olivia program), and had it almost running with Cygwin and the Cygwin GTK libraries. It was going to be bare-bones (i.e. built without gnome and hamlib functionality), but it was looking promising. The Cygwin soundcard interface allows using the soundcard as a *nix device -- ioctls, etc. (that's how the original Olivia code did it), and GTK is supported... so it's really not that unlikely. Unfortunately, I've just been time-constrained and not had much time to play on the computer much (including the MT63-ARQ project). Too many other obligations (work, family, church, MARS, RACES, ARES) requiring my time. 73, Paul / K9PS (3,619 days until retirement) Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: I think a more forward-looking approach would be to use port 3131 for data and another port for control/status and get the protocol implemented by PSK Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ Looking for digital mode software? This group suggests you try either : MixW, Multipsk, DX Lab (suite), Hamscope, Chip64, MMVARI,or Logger32 (RTTY and PSK). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
Rein, We are actively working on the proposal on the APRPack yahoo group. Ken WB6MLC and I are working with Glenn WB6W who is doing some Windows software. Also Patrick FC6TE is interested for MultuPSK once we get it settled. As APRPack is a smaller group and the activity is a main focus there, I would invite you and others interested to discuss it there. This group has a much wider membership and I am afraid it would be overwhelming here, just like it was with Olivia. 73, Leigh / WA5ZNU. On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 9:52 am, pa0r wrote: Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is mentioned... I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first. Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved? 73, Rein PA0R --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jimkovar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Thanks for the encouragement and advice. I had been debating about whether Cygwin or Msys would be a better development platform for porting linux applications. I have also been reading your ARQ protocol proposal from the pskmail website, and look forward to being able to try it out. In the mean time, I will be working on an idea Leigh gave me concerning psk63srv as a backend for pskmail, maybe using a program in the background to write and read files for pskmail, and telnet the information to/from port 3131. I had previously tried using the stock psk31srv, and found that you needed to format your input like an ax.25 UI packet (well, at at least include a : at the start of the text). After thinking about it, you could probably append PSMAIL0: to the beginning of a ARQ frame, and send it to psk63srv. The pskmail program on the receiver end should ignore everyting before the initial SOH, and APRS users would get a head-up that this was not a position report (station ID being handled in the ARQ frame). Will probably be able to work on this more after I go off backshift in a few weeks. 73, KC0HOS - Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Paul L Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months back, I was playing around with Cygwin (right after gMFSK added Olivia and when there was NO graphical Windows Olivia program), and had it almost running with Cygwin and the Cygwin GTK libraries. It was going to be bare-bones (i.e. built without gnome and hamlib functionality), but it was looking promising. The Cygwin soundcard interface allows using the soundcard as a *nix device -- ioctls, etc. (that's how the original Olivia code did it), and GTK is supported... so it's really not that unlikely. Unfortunately, I've just been time-constrained and not had much time to play on the computer much (including the MT63-ARQ project). Too many other obligations (work, family, church, MARS, RACES, ARES) requiring my time. 73, Paul / K9PS (3,619 days until retirement) Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: I think a more forward-looking approach would be to use port 3131 for data and another port for control/status and get the protocol implemented by PSK Deluxe. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ Looking for digital mode software? This group suggests you try either : MixW, Multipsk, DX Lab (suite), Hamscope, Chip64, MMVARI,or Logger32 (RTTY and PSK). Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ Looking for digital mode software? This group suggests you try either : MixW, Multipsk, DX Lab (suite), Hamscope, Chip64, MMVARI,or Logger32 (RTTY and PSK). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
Rein, Let me join Leigh in welcoming you to the digitalradio group. As he mentioned, there is also a lot of pskmail discussion on the APRPack Yahoo group. I agree that there needs to be a standard for the proposed socket interface and am in favor of any approach that will support both APRS messages (in the text-baed APRS-IS format) and frames as used by pskmail. 73, KC0HOS - Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rein, We are actively working on the proposal on the APRPack yahoo group. Ken WB6MLC and I are working with Glenn WB6W who is doing some Windows software. Also Patrick FC6TE is interested for MultuPSK once we get it settled. As APRPack is a smaller group and the activity is a main focus there, I would invite you and others interested to discuss it there. This group has a much wider membership and I am afraid it would be overwhelming here, just like it was with Olivia. 73, Leigh / WA5ZNU. On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 9:52 am, pa0r wrote: Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is mentioned... I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first. Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved? 73, Rein PA0R Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ Looking for digital mode software? This group suggests you try either : MixW, Multipsk, DX Lab (suite), Hamscope, Chip64, MMVARI,or Logger32 (RTTY and PSK). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
Yes, I agree with Jim -- I want the modem interface to be generic and support a wide variety of clients and use cases. I suggested the aprpack list because it is smaller, not because I think it should be limited to APRS or self-spotting. I implemented an entire remote digimode protocol over TCP and usd a binary protocol over a single port for TX, RX, status (phase, spectrum, etc.) and control (mode switching, etc.). Although the server end is not running at the moment, the source for one of the clients I wrote is at http://wa5znu.org/rpsk (I wrote two clients, one of which runs on GPRS-enabled cellphones.) Leigh / WA5ZNU On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:59 pm, jimkovar wrote: Rein, Let me join Leigh in welcoming you to the digitalradio group. As he mentioned, there is also a lot of pskmail discussion on the APRPack Yahoo group. I agree that there needs to be a standard for the proposed socket interface and am in favor of any approach that will support both APRS messages (in the text-baed APRS-IS format) and frames as used by pskmail. 73, KC0HOS - Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rein, We are actively working on the proposal on the APRPack yahoo group. Ken WB6MLC and I are working with Glenn WB6W who is doing some Windows software. Also Patrick FC6TE is interested for MultuPSK once we get it settled. As APRPack is a smaller group and the activity is a main focus there, I would invite you and others interested to discuss it there. This group has a much wider membership and I am afraid it would be overwhelming here, just like it was with Olivia. 73, Leigh / WA5ZNU. On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 9:52 am, pa0r wrote: Hello thought I'd better join this group as my name is mentioned... I can quickly add an udp or tcp interface to interface pskmail to gmfsk, but I'd like to settle on a written interface spec. first. Should we take that off-line? Who wants to be involved? 73, Rein PA0R Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ Looking for digital mode software? This group suggests you try either : MixW, Multipsk, DX Lab (suite), Hamscope, Chip64, MMVARI,or Logger32 (RTTY and PSK). Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ Looking for digital mode software? This group suggests you try either : MixW, Multipsk, DX Lab (suite), Hamscope, Chip64, MMVARI,or Logger32 (RTTY and PSK). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
Paul, Thanks for the encouragement and advice. I had been debating about whether Cygwin or Msys would be a better development platform for porting linux applications. I have also been reading your ARQ protocol proposal from the pskmail website, and look forward to being able to try it out. In the mean time, I will be working on an idea Leigh gave me concerning psk63srv as a backend for pskmail, maybe using a program in the background to write and read files for pskmail, and telnet the information to/from port 3131. I had previously tried using the stock psk31srv, and found that you needed to format your input like an ax.25 UI packet (well, at at least include a : at the start of the text). After thinking about it, you could probably append PSMAIL0: to the beginning of a ARQ frame, and send it to psk63srv. The pskmail program on the receiver end should ignore everyting before the initial SOH, and APRS users would get a head-up that this was not a position report (station ID being handled in the ARQ frame). Will probably be able to work on this more after I go off backshift in a few weeks. 73, KC0HOS - Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Paul L Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months back, I was playing around with Cygwin (right after gMFSK added Olivia and when there was NO graphical Windows Olivia program), and had it almost running with Cygwin and the Cygwin GTK libraries. It was going to be bare-bones (i.e. built without gnome and hamlib functionality), but it was looking promising. The Cygwin soundcard interface allows using the soundcard as a *nix device -- ioctls, etc. (that's how the original Olivia code did it), and GTK is supported... so it's really not that unlikely. Unfortunately, I've just been time-constrained and not had much time to play on the computer much (including the MT63-ARQ project). Too many other obligations (work, family, church, MARS, RACES, ARES) requiring my time. 73, Paul / K9PS (3,619 days until retirement) Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: I think a more forward-looking approach would be to use port 3131 for data and another port for control/status and get the protocol implemented by PSK Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
Leigh/Ed, Once you install the necessary Glade/GTK libraries and Perl packages, pskmail does run using ActiveState Perl on WindowsXP. If you are interested, I can provide details for setup. However, I haven't found a port of gMFSK for Windows yet, and haven't had any success yet porting it myself. I am interested in any information you may have regarding Windows soundcard programs that can transmit text from another program and return received text to that program. Since pskmail is designed to send/receive internet emails via a POP/SMTP server, it should be usable as an email client with PaclinkPO, giving you direct connectivity into the Winlink2000 system. Also, on the wl2kemcomm reflector, one of the developers indicated he might consider supporting psk63 with pskmail style ARQ as a lower power / lower throughput alternative to SCAMP. 73 - KC0HOS - Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PSKMail is an app that cooperates with gMFSK and it does so by putting files in directories. (GMFSK is a Linux digimode program.) I have talked to the developer about using a TCP port instead of files and sent him patches against gMFSK 0.6 that implement this. The APRS programs do this same thing, with port 3131. I hope that we can develop a protocol with TX/RX on port 3131 and control (QSY, mode) and status (waterfall and tuning info) on another port. With this in hand, and support now from APRS-SCS and possibly MultiPSK and PSK Deluxe and others, we should be able to develop lots of apps that can, like PSKMail, use the digimode back end to talk to the radio, and operate on the data separately. If anyone is interested in this for Windows, Mac, or Linux, please let me know. The source for the proof-of-concept Java client I wrote is at http://wa5znu.og/rpsk (the server is not up at the moment but it can be.) Leigh / WA5ZNU On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 2:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have come across this. But it runs on psk63. I wonder how hard it would be to port it to winows? Ed http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
I have come across this. But it runs on psk63. I wonder how hard it would be to port it to winows? Ed http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/ Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:47:32 -0400 From: Andrew J. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000 snip Of course, this will push everyone into buying SCS modems. If I can find it, there is a fellow in Europe that is developing a rival to WL2K using mfsk16 or mfsk32, I believe. It is set up to work with jnos or tnos or one of the variants and is written in Perl if I remember correctly. If I can find his web site, I'll post it. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
There are many PSK63 implementations on Windows; the protocol would not impede a port. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have come across this. But it runs on psk63. I wonder how hard it would be to port it to winows? Ed http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/ Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:47:32 -0400 From: Andrew J. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000 snip Of course, this will push everyone into buying SCS modems. If I can find it, there is a fellow in Europe that is developing a rival to WL2K using mfsk16 or mfsk32, I believe. It is set up to work with jnos or tnos or one of the variants and is written in Perl if I remember correctly. If I can find his web site, I'll post it. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: pskmail - Message from tim ab0wr re: Winlink-winkink 2000
PSKMail is an app that cooperates with gMFSK and it does so by putting files in directories. (GMFSK is a Linux digimode program.) I have talked to the developer about using a TCP port instead of files and sent him patches against gMFSK 0.6 that implement this. The APRS programs do this same thing, with port 3131. I hope that we can develop a protocol with TX/RX on port 3131 and control (QSY, mode) and status (waterfall and tuning info) on another port. With this in hand, and support now from APRS-SCS and possibly MultiPSK and PSK Deluxe and others, we should be able to develop lots of apps that can, like PSKMail, use the digimode back end to talk to the radio, and operate on the data separately. If anyone is interested in this for Windows, Mac, or Linux, please let me know. The source for the proof-of-concept Java client I wrote is at http://wa5znu.og/rpsk (the server is not up at the moment but it can be.) Leigh / WA5ZNU On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 2:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have come across this. But it runs on psk63. I wonder how hard it would be to port it to winows? Ed http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/