Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Martin
RT @KathySierra
@Armano the 1 thing that has surprised me most about Twitter? The sum
really IS greater than the parts. (impossible to perceive w/o trying)
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Value and Purpose

2008-10-23 Thread Joshua Seiden
I notice that the formatting above kind of buried the manifesto
itself, so here it is pulled out:

 We believe that the human condition is increasingly challenged by
poor experiences. IxDA intends to improve the human condition by
advancing the discipline of Interaction Design.

To do this, we foster a community of people that choose to come
together to support this intention. IxDA relies on individual
initiative, contribution, sharing and self-organization as the
primary means for us to achieve our goals. 

JS


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Niklas Wolkert
Isn't Twitter (currently) very much about following fellow _English
speaking_ tweeters?

In Sweden, and to my knowledge Europe (correct me if I'm wrong),
twitter hasn't taken of(on?) at all. For various reasons, but a big
one I guess being language. Having my 'local' friends following my
English tweets would just be silly having my Turkish or Dutch or
German or XXX friends look at texts like: Jag åt en suverän
blodpudding i killarnas omklädninsgrum i morse, equally silly, i
promise you :)

Give me automatic direct translations of tweets. When I decide to
follow, I also choose what language I want to see it in. That could
actually ad a layer of humor.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Jorge Márquez
Wonderful discussion here!

I want to follow all of you guys on... mine is @jorgemarquez I use to write
in spanish and english depending on the comment.

I became fan of Twitter since I discovered the great networking potential
behind this tool.

Here a list for what I'm using Twitter:

1.- Networking
2.- Searching for new trends (try http://search.twitter.com/)
3.- Knowing instant thought, I mean to discover what people are talking
about... A few months ago the first news I got from the tragical plane crash
on Madrid airport was from a twitt, twitter journalism was more effective
than regular media.
4.- To understand the community and to listen (Try http://tweetscan.com or
http://twitrratr.com/)

Here my two cents: Twitter could be as useful as you want or useless as you
want, it depends on deep you want to dig into the tool.

I think that followings and followers will increase today for sure!



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[IxDA Discuss] Interface Design vs Interaction Design

2008-10-23 Thread Jason Pamental
There certainly is a lot of crossover between this thread and the one  
on 'What to teach interaction design students' - and the heart of both  
topics seems to center around language and understanding.   First,  
needing to have a clearly articulated definition of the discipline and  
it's relationship and differentiation from those related. That has  
been explored well here and it's clear that it is a continuum - there  
are some whose talents overlap ranging from theoretical to the  
practical. (I love the author/illustrator analogy, and I'd add David  
Macaulay to that list!) Think 'theory of interaction' on through  
interface design, prototyping and the skills to actually develop the  
site/application/device. It's a rare few that can competently do all  
of those things, but there are certainly more who can do much and  
direct the rest effectively. What Dave has brought up here and in the  
other thread is a need to effectively critique the work - both by  
students and I'd say also by practitioners 'out in the world'. In  
developing the right language and vocabularies to effectively  
critique, and therefore explain (!) the work. This is vital to the  
education process and equally so in conveying the value and  
effectiveness of work being done. In visual design there are more  
known vocabularies for describing and evaluating design from an  
aesthetic point of view. However in interface design (such as for the  
web or a software application) there are additional concerns around  
usability (affected by the interaction design), how well it solves  
business objectives and how well/efficiently it can be produced. There  
is beauty to be found in all - or perhaps at least elegance. The  
vocabularies to describe a beautiful code solution versus a truly  
elegant business solution versus a completely intuitive interaction  
solution are all quite different from the set of words and phrases  
applied when evaluating color, composition and 'visual tension' found  
in a great piece of visual design (a painting, a print, a poster or a  
software interface). In actuality some of the words may be the same,  
but the theory and criteria with which they are applied is quite  
different.


So I think that to answer either thread (what's the difference or what  
to teach) we must first be able to describe and understand both what  
is entailed in any of these disciplines and how one can describe  
'success' in any of them. From there it's easier to say 'I'm an  
interaction designer' or 'I'm an interface designer' or in someone  
like Andrei's situation, I'd say that he's more than either in that he  
may think of himself as an interaction designer primarily, but having  
the ability to perform and/or direct what comes after (interface/ 
visual design and the actual prototyping and production of the end  
product) is definitely a broader role. I think we all live in worlds  
where it flows from Dave's situation of being surrounded by other  
experts so he can focus solely on interaction design and others like  
myself and other in this thread who by necessity or desire involve  
themselves in other surrounding roles. It doesn't diminish the  
importance of any one of them, but without the language to articulate  
the differences and importance of the various distinct disciplines  
then there will always be a danger of important tasks and roles being  
eliminated from the world.


Cheers,

Jason


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread krushford
I think twitter leverages many of the killer aspects of blogging
tweets have a ubiquitous rather than a localized feel as I follow the
micro-blog updates of career heroes as well as my coworkers and
friends.   maybe u have to be a birder to appreciate it!

peep,
lo


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 what people have already done over IM.

 I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this. What's the
 killer app here that's new?


 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Dave Fleming
I have also had a lot of fun on Twitter, as well as sharing relevant
UX / IA / IxD and Web Strategy Info, and learning from all the
incredibly talented folks that share on Twitter. You have to learn
how to be more selective in what you are looking for, or you will
have to slog through mundane entries, vs. something more relevant to
your field or agenda.

Uses :
Marketing, forums, self-promotion, politics- hard to name a media
form that is not connected somehow. It is now becoming more popular
on live CNN forums and is catching on quickly wherever people are
looking for accessible, real-time commenting. 

This guy - http://twitter.com/jowyang , is a brilliant web strategist
from Forrester who has also has a great blog at: 
http://web-strategist.com/blog/ - definitely bleeding edge news,
insights and research. 

If you are going to jump into the Twitter banter, be sure to check
out the www.tinyurl.com site, enabling you to share URL's within
that context.

Twitter - @xshapes
blog- http://uxpractitioner.blogspot.com/
site - www.xshapes.com

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[IxDA Discuss] [event] Tomorrow: Seattle IXDA meeting - Microsoft campus - Redmond, 7PM

2008-10-23 Thread Ruthkikin.com



Ruth Kikin-Gil
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Our computers should be like our childhood: 
an invisible foundation that is quickly forgotten but always with us, 
and effortlessly used throughout our lives. Mark Weiser

Thursday October 23, 2008 at 7:00pm 
Microsoft Convention center (Building 33)
Room st. Helen
16070 NE 36th Way
Redmond, Washington 98052 

Join us to our monthly IXDA meeting - hosted by Microsoft's Office Labs
(http://www.officelabs.com ) on Microsoft's main campus - Building 33.

This month's topic is  Lessons from game design
This is a chance to learn where the fields of interaction design and game
design overlap. It's a chance for IxD to learn more about how games
challenge, reward, and engage players. We'll hear how game designers use
prototyping and sketching (Daniel Cook), about User Research on Social/Party
Games(George Amaya ), and how narrative and storytelling immerse players in
experiences (Mark Long).

Please don't be late - the event is recorded and we'll have to start on
time.

The talks will be recorded and will be available online on
www.officelabs.com about a week after the event.

We are fully booked at the moment, but you can try and come anyway and
admittance will be on a first come first served basis.
Also - if you have RSVP'd already and know you can't make it - let us know
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Ivrea Legacy ... Its like impressive

2008-10-23 Thread Ruth Kikin-Gil
Hey David
I'm glad you've pointed out this article. Oh, the good old days...
Three years ago Erez and I, both IDII Alumni, wrote about the Ivrea
experience for UI garden:
http://www.uigarden.net/english/idii-a-life-changing-experience 

Enjoy.


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[IxDA Discuss] Last Dates (Mumbai, India)- Weekend Workshop on User Experience Design

2008-10-23 Thread rohit k
Hi friends,
Kindly take note of some important upcoming dates for Design Incubator's
Weekend Workshops on User Experience Design, Winter 2008 given below:

18th Nov 08 - Last date to register for UXD01 Introduction to User
Experience Design
Fees For Self Sponsored = 3,000 INR
Fees For Corporate Sponsored = 4,000 INR

18th Nov 08 - Last Date to register to avail Discount on Full Course (if all
five Modules booked together)
Fees For Self Sponsored = 32,000 INR
Fees For Corporate Sponsored = 36,000 INR

2nd Dec 08 - Last Date to register to avail Discount on Core Design Modules
(UXD02 + UXD03+UXD04 if booked together)
Fees For Self Sponsored = 23,000 INR
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For details visit:
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Five workshop modules are offered over weekends spanning from 22nd Nov '08
to 11th Jan '09.

› UXD 01 - Introduction to User Experience Design (22, 23 Nov 08)
› UXD 02 - User Requirements Engineering (6,7 Dec 08)
› UXD 03 - User Interface Visualization and Interaction Design ( 13, 14 Dec
08)
› UXD 04 - Graphic Design and User Interface Aesthetics (20, 21 Dec 08)
› UXD 05 - Usability Testing (10, 11 Jan 09)

Download Brochure:
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[IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel

2008-10-23 Thread AJKock
I am in the Travel industry and we have found that people completing
an online form has problems understanding when a field means their
country of origin or the country they want to travel too.

We have the country field under the personal details section, but
some people still tend to complete it with their country of
destination.

Does anybody here have a suggestion on how to solve this? Should we
change the wording for country to something like Home Country, Your
Country or Country of Origin or is there another way?

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[IxDA Discuss] Create a password: how to assist the user in complying with the rules you set

2008-10-23 Thread R. Groot
Hi all,

I'm breaking my head on the following for some time now and I hope you have
a fresh look or good experience to share.

*Scenario*
- A user needs to create password (for a new account)
- The password has to comply to two out of three certain rules (certain
length, upper- and/or lowercase letter, and number)

*My solution so far*
At this moment I use an explanatory text which tells the user what rules the
password has to comply to. But since people don't read...

Looking forward to your visions, links, experiences!

Kind regards,
Rein

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing Installer for the Mac

2008-10-23 Thread Tiago Marques
Hi Cecilia,
 
And thanks for your reply. I've been a Mac user at home for a year now and I 
couldn't agree more: I actually thought all installations on a Mac occurred in 
the DMG drag-and-drop procedure, and only when I installed MS Office for Mac 
did I first saw that *lovely* step-by-step installation I didn't miss from the 
PC world. But our developers have only recently been introduced to Mac 
programming, and I am already impressed with how much they've learned and 
managed to do in so tight a deadline - for now the MPKG will have to do.
 
My question is not about the drag-and-drop of the icons for installation 
purposes (which I would favour), it's actually about the customization of the 
window itself, and the extra eye-candy and instructional possibilities in it. 
In the Firefox 3 installer window we have the icons of the Firefox app and the 
Applications folder PLUS an backdrop arrow and Drag Here message which pretty 
much tells the user exactly what he should do. Now, checking the Flickr page I 
know that I can also customize the window containing a MPKG:
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pioupioum/2064574906/in/pool-dmg/
 
Question is: how is this window customization achieved?
 
Cheers,
 
Tiago



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  My understanding is that there is a fundamental structural difference 
 between the installation methods. Firefox uses the DMG method, which means 
 that everything that is installed is all installed into one folder. This is 
 the preferred method, because that means you aren't spraying files all over 
 the users computer. The MPKG method you are using is necessary if you are 
 modifying files outside your one little folder. I found a thread talking 
 about this here: 
 http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?design.4.299374.16 It sounds 
 the concensus on that thread is that it is really worth trying to confine 
 all of the installation into one folder, for two reasons. One is the part 
 that you like, which is the slick installation procedure from the 
 perspective of the user. The second is that it seems that programmers co
 nsider that it makes your program more polite, staying in it's own folder, 
reducing the risk of stomping on other things that other programs might be 
relying on.  My perception as a Mac user has always been that I am very happy 
when an installation is a DMG. I know that it will be easy, and usually 
really fast to install.  Further information on DMG: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.dmg   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Will Evans
there's a wall around us
we are heady, we are groundless
 we burn our friends  kill their names
build insecure  petty fames
 tattoo things that we believe
skulls  bones  hearts in half-sleeves

That stanza came to mind, especially the line about insecure and petty fames
- which was more an indictment of live journal and blogs circa 2002 - but
things have changed since then, even with Julia Allison and her personality
cult all sound and fury signifying nothing. Twitter isn't about
instantiating new abstractions of self - splintered personalities that bear
little if any resemblance to the originating consciousness. I had argued
elsewhere that the phenomenon of multiple personalities, along with Pierre
Klossowski's notion of demonic position, gives us a better paradigma for a
concept of pre-Simulationist subjectivity than anything we can get from
psychoanalysis. You cannot be one without being at least two. We are all at
least potentially multiple, even if most of us do not suffer from the
oppressive consciousness of being so. This was made easier with social media
sites, where I could manufacture a persona and within reason, keep it
relatively coherent and separate from my meat-space self. This shattering,
though, meant a form of schizophrenia which, long term, is very difficult to
maintain. Twitter changes that because authentic personality naturally seems
to accrete onto the screen into the 'verse and over time a real pattern
emerges - one much closer to one's true self. This is both kewl and a bit
scary - especially for someone who values their privacy and anonimity, but I
digress...

Back to *Twitter and Trust and Tribes* - from Seth Godin's new book,
Tribes

most people who use twitter don't get it. It seems invasive or time
consuming or even dumb...the converts, though, understand the true power of
twitter...
Over time, twit by twit, Laura has built trust, which has led to a
successful career as a consultant and a worldwide speaking practice. She's
met fascinating people and changed the way her tribes sees the world. She
now has true fans, people who seek her out and talk about her.
Laura couldn't have done this with one speech or one blog post...but by
consistently touching a tribe of people with generosity and insight, she's
earned the right to lead.
Personally, I can't imagine the technology mattering much. Blogs and
twitter and all manner of other tools will come and go, possibly by the time
you read this. The tactics are irrelevant, and the technology will always be
changing. The essential lesson is that every day it gets easier to tighten
the relationship you have  with the people who choose to follow you.

And that, my friends, is a pretty descent argument re:twitter.

--
~ will

Where you innovate, how you innovate,
and what you innovate are design problems

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel

2008-10-23 Thread Caroline Jarrett
From: AJKock


 I am in the Travel industry and we have found that people completing
 an online form has problems understanding when a field means their
 country of origin or the country they want to travel too.
 
 We have the country field under the personal details section, but
 some people still tend to complete it with their country of
 destination.
 
 Does anybody here have a suggestion on how to solve this? Should we
 change the wording for country to something like Home Country, Your
 Country or Country of Origin or is there another way?

Changing the question can work. 

A strategy that is more likely to work is to ask for country in a more
natural way, which is as a component of their address (if it is appropriate
to ask for their address as part of their personal details).

Note that the country of origin may not be the same as the place that the
live. 

You might do better with Where does your journey start? and Where are you
travelling to?

Best
Caroline Jarrett
--
Forms that work: Designing web forms for usability available from 17th
November 2008
http://www.amazon.com/Forms-that-Work-Interactive-Technologies/dp/1558607102
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel

2008-10-23 Thread AJKock
 A strategy that is more likely to work is to ask for country in a more
 natural way, which is as a component of their address (if it is appropriate
 to ask for their address as part of their personal details).

We are using the Jakob N loves us Wufoo form and unfortunately they
only have an address field, when if you make it compulsory, people
have to complete their whole adress and country. We are really only
interested in the country and don't want to create too much effort for
the user in completing the form. I had to create a drop down box from
scracth for the countries. I can now add the address fields above it
to give it more relevance, but that would just increase the size of
the form with 4-5 lines (of information we don't actually need).

 Note that the country of origin may not be the same as the place that the
 live.

Very good point.  Tx

 You might do better with Where does your journey start? and Where are you
 travelling to?


We only want to to know where they are from. We know from our product
which country is the destination. Journeys can also unfortunately
start in country of travel, so some people might still get confused.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Create a password: how to assist the user in complying with the rules you set

2008-10-23 Thread Darlene Pike
Check for each condition on every keystroke. As each new condition is
met, provide immediate feedback visually right next to the input form.
For example, start with 4 empty boxes, and with each met condition,
add a checkmark to one of the boxes.

If this is a web form, JavaScript is well-suited for the task.

That got me thinking ... How to provide immediate and non-intrusive
feedback of this kind iwhen the input is audio. The characteristic of
the feedback I described above depends on people being able to
perceive what they are entering at the same time as the response, so
locating the feedback boxes next to the input box is effective. For
voice input, the act of entering data and receiving a response seems
to require a more distinct asynchronous process: speak a letter, hear
ok, speak a letter, hear ok. . But could people be taught to
listen for and recognize a continuous background tone that is neutral,
but that changes pitch to indicate a conforming reply? Perhaps a bell
ding or happy chord would be the positive sound. Could be used in any
audio capable interface where you want to test for complying data
input -- I
I don't have much experience with games -- maybe the games designers
have solved this one elegantly already.






On 10/23/08, R. Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm breaking my head on the following for some time now and I hope you have
 a fresh look or good experience to share.

 *Scenario*
 - A user needs to create password (for a new account)
 - The password has to comply to two out of three certain rules (certain
 length, upper- and/or lowercase letter, and number)

 *My solution so far*
 At this moment I use an explanatory text which tells the user what rules the
 password has to comply to. But since people don't read...

 Looking forward to your visions, links, experiences!

 Kind regards,
 Rein
 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel

2008-10-23 Thread Darlene Pike
In what country do you live?

In what country is your permanent residence?

Where is your home base?

What country do you call home?

Place a help icon or link for more info. Next to the question, emgm,
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 We have the country field under the personal details section, but
 some people still tend to complete it with their country of
 destination.

 Does anybody here have a suggestion on how to solve this? Should we
 change the wording for country to something like Home Country, Your
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread David Malouf
Niklas,
I hear this argument a lot about many social networks that are
started in the US or UK, but I've noticed a trend.

Brazilians  Portuguese just don't give a sh*t. ;-)
Nor do Israelis, Japanese and many other non-Europeans and well
Europeans. ;-)

Open up Twittervision and not only will you see different languages
spoken, but different character sets (Twitter is UTC or Unicode
compatible, I forget which).

I started out w/ the Brazilians and Portuguese b/c out of all of my
followers I notice more tweets in Portuguese than other foreign
language, followed by Spanish, Hebrew and Dutch.

Do I ignore those tweets. SURE do though sometimes they are good
practice. ;) ... but when I want to engage those people I do and they
do with me and yes that engagement is in English.

Further, the point of the thread is not about Twitter itself, but
about micro-blogging  ambient intimacy. Take Identi.ca (the OSS
version of Twitter) and well just make a Swedish version).
Micro-blogging in its many forms (Tumblr, plurk, jaiku, etc.) seem to
have English roots but global responses.

BTW, to my point, about 20% of the people I follow are non-USers. Ok,
a big bulk of those are Canadian. ;-)

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Value and Purpose

2008-10-23 Thread Mario Bourque
To do this, we foster a community of people that choose to come
together to support this intention. IxDA relies on individual
initiative, contribution, sharing and self-organization as the
primary means for us to achieve our goals.

That's the key to its success - the whole grassroots movement. The fact that
local groups are popping up and taking charge to better themselves and the
community is truly outstanding. The list is fine and all, but the local
groups is where the power is.
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Value and Purpose

2008-10-23 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
That's exactly it.

When somebody in Toronto (inevitably) asks me What's the different
between the IxDA and [insert other group]? I always answer We give
anybody interested a voice and platform to talk about design with
their peers.

So many other groups will only let you speak at events if you have
masters degrees or high profile experience.. we really try to create
an open space where anybody can participate, whether they just
graduated or have been working for 20 years.



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 To do this, we foster a community of people that choose to come
 together to support this intention. IxDA relies on individual
 initiative, contribution, sharing and self-organization as the
 primary means for us to achieve our goals.

 That's the key to its success - the whole grassroots movement. The fact that
 local groups are popping up and taking charge to better themselves and the
 community is truly outstanding. The list is fine and all, but the local
 groups is where the power is.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Polaine

I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.


Not everything is designed to meet a need.


I just had a conversation like this with some engineering students  
whom I am teaching interactive media. My response was what's the  
point of text messaging when you can just call someone?. I think he  
got it after that.


By the way, interesting to note that this Twitter discussion is pretty  
tweety (tweetie?) in its nature.


p.s. @apolaine

Best,

Andy


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Mario Bourque
Text messaging is task-based and less intrusive. You text me, I'll text you
back when I can. Not as cumbersome as email, not as annoying as answering
the phone.

I wouldn't text someone in an emergency though.

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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Andy Polaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.


 Not everything is designed to meet a need.


 I just had a conversation like this with some engineering students whom I
 am teaching interactive media. My response was what's the point of text
 messaging when you can just call someone?. I think he got it after that.

 By the way, interesting to note that this Twitter discussion is pretty
 tweety (tweetie?) in its nature.

 p.s. @apolaine

 Best,

 Andy

 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread mark schraad
Not to get too philosophical, but I have been thinking a lot about
'needs' lately. I never really 'needed' a mobile phone or an ipod, but
once I had them I realized great utility and benefit from both.
Also... the need in this case is only partially a product or
technology thing, but weighted more towards the 'who' and 'how common'
of the community it has grown. It is a little different than when I am
trying to do something specific and the right tool isn't available.

Sometimes the tool, and its diffusion create the need.

Mark




On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Andy Polaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am also very skeptical of the need for something like this.

 Not everything is designed to meet a need.

 I just had a conversation like this with some engineering students whom I am
 teaching interactive media. My response was what's the point of text
 messaging when you can just call someone?. I think he got it after that.

 By the way, interesting to note that this Twitter discussion is pretty
 tweety (tweetie?) in its nature.

 p.s. @apolaine

 Best,

 Andy

 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Polaine

Then just use In which country do you live?

Best,

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing Installer for the Mac

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Polaine
I always assumed that people did it either with a DMG making tool, or  
just went to View Options (Apple J) on a folder and chose a picture  
for the folder background before they made the disk image.




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Polaine
Just in case it sounded like I couldn't see the point of text  
messaging, I meant that question as a rhetorical one, or at least one  
to get him thinking about needs/function/purpose and design. Plenty of  
people never thought computers would be useful. Or a phone with a  
touchscreen instead of a keypad. The list is long...


On 23 Oct 2008, at 15:44, Mario Bourque wrote:

Text messaging is task-based and less intrusive. You text me, I'll  
text you back when I can. Not as cumbersome as email, not as  
annoying as answering the phone.


I wouldn't text someone in an emergency though.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Value and Purpose

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Polaine
Good answer. It feels a lot to me like a good conference where you get  
to see everyone speak and meet up with them in the bar afterwards and  
without the expensive fees and airfare. Plus you can ask the hard  
questions.


Andy

On 23 Oct 2008, at 14:16, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote:


That's exactly it.

When somebody in Toronto (inevitably) asks me What's the different
between the IxDA and [insert other group]? I always answer We give
anybody interested a voice and platform to talk about design with
their peers.

So many other groups will only let you speak at events if you have
masters degrees or high profile experience.. we really try to create
an open space where anybody can participate, whether they just
graduated or have been working for 20 years.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Mario Bourque
I knew you did!

Computers are not useful; they cause me all sorts of grief!

We see these things as being useful because they complement our own lives in
some way. Those that don't understand, and there are a lot of them, can't
see the value.

A lot of companies are going through this generational shift where a
handshake and phone call is replaced with an IM or txt.

Mario

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Andy Polaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just in case it sounded like I couldn't see the point of text messaging, I
 meant that question as a rhetorical one, or at least one to get him thinking
 about needs/function/purpose and design. Plenty of people never thought
 computers would be useful. Or a phone with a touchscreen instead of a
 keypad. The list is long...

 On 23 Oct 2008, at 15:44, Mario Bourque wrote:

  Text messaging is task-based and less intrusive. You text me, I'll text
 you back when I can. Not as cumbersome as email, not as annoying as
 answering the phone.

 I wouldn't text someone in an emergency though.


 
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[IxDA Discuss] 3 (not 6) Metrics for Managing UI Design

2008-10-23 Thread Russell Wilson
This is the follow up to the original post on metrics for managing UI design
(what we
finally chose to use based on feedback from IxDA members and team members):

http://www.dexodesign.com/2008/10/22/3-not-6-metrics-for-managing-ui-design/

I received some fantastic comments on that post and I want to thank everyone
for
taking the time to provide their input.

Best regards,
Russ




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread pauric
I'm an on/off twitter.com user.. however.. a colleague in our 35
strong UX team hand-rolled a Twitter 'Clone' for internal use. 
Essentially its a hacked WP blog open to the team to make short
status  question posts.

With the team spread across 4 buildings and 80 product sets its
proving extraordinarily useful in eliminating the whitespace among
us.  

For anyone working on large distributed teams I highly recommend
building something that's aligned with the principles behind the
twitter.com concept.  Keeping it on your intranet maintains any IP
discussed.

/pauric
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[IxDA Discuss] Multi-touch: Helsinki's CityWall

2008-10-23 Thread Itamar Medeiros
CityWall is a large multi-touch display installed in central down town
Helsinki which acts as a collaborative and playful interface for its
urban surroundings. The new 3D interface launched 8 October 2008
allows interacting with 3D worlds of related information and enables
multiple content, multiple timelines and participants to generate
content.

Worth checking it out (on youtube):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IldDrCcZkZY

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Multi-touch: Helsinki's CityWall

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Polaine
Been looking at this for a while because of a friend of mine, John  
Evans, from 3Eyes who was involved in it. This was the piece that my  
engineering student said what's the point of it, if you were  
following the other discussion about Twitter.


You should take a look at their Multi Touch Cells: http://www.multitou.ch/

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Andy


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing Installer for the Mac

2008-10-23 Thread Tiago Marques
Hi Andy,
 
I've found this screenshot in Flickr in the .DMG group, and as you can see it 
is possible to customize a window containing a PKMG:
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pioupioum/2064574906/in/pool-dmg/
 
How do we do this? Simple. The PKMG - or whatever other files we want to share 
- must be inside a DMG container... so yes - you are correct on the subject.
 
Fortunatelly, that seems easy enough. I googled for mac customization dmg 
window and here are some of the gems I found:
 
http://www.kingdom-era.com/products/dmgdesigns/ (a shareware utility for 
creating DMG - little coding involved)
 
http://www.astoundingcookie.com/2008/07/creating-a-custom-dmg-replace-the-icon-background-and-more/http://murphymac.com/custom-dmg-background-image-new-version/http://el-tramo.be/guides/fancy-dmghttp://www.ploem.be/blog/?page_id=26http://www.decaffeinated.org/archives/2004/04/20/dmghttp://c-command.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25
  http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20070216063522395 (these are 
texts and guidelines on creating DMGs)
 
Cheers,
 
Tiago
 
PS. Thanks again for all your replies, mates. Brilliant stuff.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing Installer for the Mac

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Polaine
We used to do a similar thing in the old days with CD-ROMs. You'd  
burn the image laid out exactly how you wanted it to mount. There used  
to be an app that made a background image by taking an image, tiling  
it and making hundreds of icons out of it and laying them out as a grid.


A
On 23 Oct 2008, at 17:54, Tiago Marques wrote:


Hi Andy,

I've found this screenshot in Flickr in the .DMG group, and as you  
can see it is possible to customize a window containing a PKMG:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/pioupioum/2064574906/in/pool-dmg/

How do we do this? Simple. The PKMG - or whatever other files we  
want to share - must be inside a DMG container... so yes - you are  
correct on the subject.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] 2nd CFP: Best Practices in Longitudinal Research (Workshop @ CHI 2009)

2008-10-23 Thread Jhilmil Jain
Deadline for submission has been extended to Oct 31, 2008.
More details on: http://longitudinalusability.wikispaces.com/CHI 2009
Workshop


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Multi-touch: Helsinki's CityWall

2008-10-23 Thread Janne Kaasalainen
It's been rather nice thing to try out and play with when you have a  
few moments to kill. It also helps that it's located at one of the  
very central places in Helsinki.



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[IxDA Discuss] Bad interaction experiences, blogged nationally

2008-10-23 Thread Alan Wexelblat
In the blog entry titled A fine wensleydale?
(http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/10/fine-wensleydale.html) Neil
Gaiman relates his experiences attemping to buy a G1 phone from
T-Mobile. I'm tempted to give this as a sample case to my first-year
students and ask them to enumerate all the things wrong with it.  Not
least of them seems to be the left hand not knowing what the right is
doing.

At UI13 Jared talked about how many usability problems are rooted in
lack of foreknowledge.  I wonder who didn't know what in this example.

Finally, I'm having trouble tracking down the origin of the general
wisdom that people are more likely to write about, or tell people
about, bad experiences than good ones.  Last I looked, Gaiman's blog
was getting somewhere north of 1.1 milllion unique visitors per day.
If I was a T Mobile exec, I'd be cringing severely right about now.

Best,
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Loren Baxter
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Wow. If only my travels made *me* feel warm inside.

 @jmspool


Try the equator somewhere, or Arizona

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Will Evans
Riffin' on Bill Maher's New Rules - UX/IA/IxD conferences can no longer be
held north of 30 degrees latitude

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Loren Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Wow. If only my travels made *me* feel warm inside.
 
  @jmspool
 

 Try the equator somewhere, or Arizona

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Bad interaction experiences, blogged nationally

2008-10-23 Thread Scott Berkun
 
 At UI13 Jared talked about how many usability problems are rooted in lack
of 
  foreknowledge.  I wonder who didn't know what in this example.

This story strikes me as a tale of the mathematics of bureaucracy. One
imagined explanation is this: whoever at corporate headquarters who decides
what marketing posters go into all stores doesn't mind the fact that 5% of
all stores can't sell whatever is in the posters if the other 95% can. The
hell created for those in those 5% is outweighed by the win for the 95%. 

Or even more cynically, the dude at HQ who picks the posters doesn't really
care about the stores, since his/her performance reviews don't include any
evaluation for how well their marketing materials help or hurt sales at
individual stores.

 At UI13 Jared talked about how many usability problems are rooted in 
 lack of foreknowledge.  I wonder who didn't know what in this example.

I think much of what we point out as design failures (e.g. thisisbroken.com)
has more to do with organizational failures (cause) than it does the lack of
design quality (symptom). I'm sure there are people at T-mobile who know
better, but the organization hasn't put them in a place or enabled them to
do anything about it. And this includes the sales guy at the store Neil went
to: I'm sure if he was given a big red button labeled Marketing HQ has
screwed my local office to push that would alert the CEO and reward the
sales guy for making a stink about such things, he would have.

-Scott

Scott Berkun
www.scottberkun.com 

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Wexelblat
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Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Bad interaction experiences, blogged nationally

In the blog entry titled A fine wensleydale?
(http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/10/fine-wensleydale.html) Neil Gaiman
relates his experiences attemping to buy a G1 phone from T-Mobile. I'm
tempted to give this as a sample case to my first-year students and ask them
to enumerate all the things wrong with it.  Not least of them seems to be
the left hand not knowing what the right is doing.

At UI13 Jared talked about how many usability problems are rooted in lack of
foreknowledge.  I wonder who didn't know what in this example.

Finally, I'm having trouble tracking down the origin of the general wisdom
that people are more likely to write about, or tell people about, bad
experiences than good ones.  Last I looked, Gaiman's blog was getting
somewhere north of 1.1 milllion unique visitors per day.
If I was a T Mobile exec, I'd be cringing severely right about now.

Best,
--Alan

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Vive l'ergonomie?

2008-10-23 Thread Alban Hermet
Hi Billie,

I can testify that there ARE Ix Designers in France. Actually,the
company I work in (www.intuilab.com) is specialized in Ix Design and
regroups skilled people like Iteraction Designers, Visual Designers,
Usability Engineers (or Ergonomes), Developpers ... 
 
L'ergonomie is a part of the required skills to design good
products. It brings its own techniques (evaluation, user needs
analysis... ) just like the other disciplines involved in the
creation process. 

Alban


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter

2008-10-23 Thread Christian Crumlish
Professionals in our field would also do well to study Twitter's meta-UI:
its open architecture that facilitates so many innovative I/O add-ons.
Also, it's an experience that each user can fine tune to their own benefit.
This is something that can make the benefits hard to discern from the
sidelines.

Plus, you get to meet Whitney Hess! :D

-x-

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[IxDA Discuss] Brilliant Viral Video

2008-10-23 Thread Charles B. Kreitzberg
I was blown away by the recent MoveOn.org customized video. Whether you are
for Obama or McCain, it seemed like a new level of sophistication in viral
marketing that is worth a serious look.

For those not in the US, MoveOn is a liberal organization that is supporting
Obama in the election.

In case you have not seen it yet, this is a video that is customized with
your name in the content of the video. It's intent is clearly viral; its
message is to get out and vote.

You can see the video at www.cnnbcvideo.com but to really appreciate its
brilliance, you need to click on a link and email it to yourself. When you
do this it is customized throughout with your name.

cnnbcvideo.com is a microsite, for a faux news organization. If you click on
it without the customization, the video uses Hillary Clinton's name. But
when it's emailed to you, your name replaces hers. Every link on
www.cnnbcvideo.com leads to the same page -- a form that encourages you to
fill in the names and emails of people you know, facilitating its viral
spread.

As far as I can see, the video is produced by merging an underlying video
with a computer modified graphic overlay so that the recipient's name is
integrated into the visual. This is all done through text, the audio does
not change. What is so impressive is the seamlessness of the integration of
the recipient's name. It's brilliantly done. The only place where I thought
it could have been improved was a clip from Bill O'Reilly where the font
seemed a bit too dark and the audio said he although I had customized the
video using a woman's name. 

The customization was fast. When we sent the video to ourselves, we received
the customized video within a few seconds.

I wish that MoveOn had chosen to remove one scene in which a woman curses
(the audio is bleeped out). IMO this brings the video down a bit but perhaps
I'm just a bit stodgy. 

What makes this viral effort so impressive is:

1. The quality of the customization which will really grab people 
2. The usability of the site which will facilitate sending it to others 
3. The fact that it will create discussion and interest which creates a
payoff for the user

I'm impressed and, regardless of your political views (or nationality), I
think it's worth seeing as an example of a powerful a social media marketing
effort.

Charlie


Charles B. Kreitzberg, Ph.D.
CEO, Cognetics Corporation





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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social Interaction Design Primer

2008-10-23 Thread Milan Guenther
Just a quick note on that: when it comes to online social interaction,
I'd like to recommend this book: 

http://www.amazon.com/Design-Community-Derek-Powazek/dp/0735710759

It's old, SxD is called online community design in there, and
(of course) no mention of web 2.0 - but the design principles for
connecting real people in virtual places are still valid and very
applicable to social interactions.

--milan


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Brilliant Viral Video

2008-10-23 Thread live


These 'personalized' vids have been going on for awhile now.
They're humourous, to a point.
It's a good use of the technology to make Get out The Vote kind of  
videos, though.

Good for them.

-Sharon

On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Charles B. Kreitzberg wrote:

I was blown away by the recent MoveOn.org customized video. Whether  
you are
for Obama or McCain, it seemed like a new level of sophistication in  
viral

marketing that is worth a serious look.

For those not in the US, MoveOn is a liberal organization that is  
supporting

Obama in the election.

In case you have not seen it yet, this is a video that is customized  
with
your name in the content of the video. It's intent is clearly viral;  
its

message is to get out and vote.

You can see the video at www.cnnbcvideo.com but to really appreciate  
its
brilliance, you need to click on a link and email it to yourself.  
When you

do this it is customized throughout with your name.

cnnbcvideo.com is a microsite, for a faux news organization. If you  
click on
it without the customization, the video uses Hillary Clinton's name.  
But

when it's emailed to you, your name replaces hers. Every link on
www.cnnbcvideo.com leads to the same page -- a form that encourages  
you to
fill in the names and emails of people you know, facilitating its  
viral

spread.

As far as I can see, the video is produced by merging an underlying  
video
with a computer modified graphic overlay so that the recipient's  
name is
integrated into the visual. This is all done through text, the audio  
does
not change. What is so impressive is the seamlessness of the  
integration of
the recipient's name. It's brilliantly done. The only place where I  
thought
it could have been improved was a clip from Bill O'Reilly where the  
font
seemed a bit too dark and the audio said he although I had  
customized the

video using a woman's name.

The customization was fast. When we sent the video to ourselves, we  
received

the customized video within a few seconds.

I wish that MoveOn had chosen to remove one scene in which a woman  
curses
(the audio is bleeped out). IMO this brings the video down a bit but  
perhaps

I'm just a bit stodgy.

What makes this viral effort so impressive is:

1. The quality of the customization which will really grab people
2. The usability of the site which will facilitate sending it to  
others
3. The fact that it will create discussion and interest which  
creates a

payoff for the user

I'm impressed and, regardless of your political views (or  
nationality), I
think it's worth seeing as an example of a powerful a social media  
marketing

effort.

Charlie


Charles B. Kreitzberg, Ph.D.
CEO, Cognetics Corporation





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Re: [IxDA Discuss] 3 (not 6) Metrics for Managing UI Design

2008-10-23 Thread Jared Spool


On Oct 23, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Russell Wilson wrote:

This is the follow up to the original post on metrics for managing  
UI design

(what we
finally chose to use based on feedback from IxDA members and team  
members):


http://www.dexodesign.com/2008/10/22/3-not-6-metrics-for-managing-ui-design/

I received some fantastic comments on that post and I want to thank  
everyone

for
taking the time to provide their input.


Feels like you're moving in the right direction. Good work.

Jared

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel

2008-10-23 Thread Jim Drew
Country of Origin is ambiguous. Does it mean where you were born,  
where you live, or where you are travelling from?


(I get that confusion when some asks where I am from. What does that  
mean?  Where were you born, they ask. We moved cross-country two weeks  
later, and back two years after that. Where's your hometown? What's  
that? I've never lived in the same city for more than 8 years, and  
that's where I am now.)


-- Jim
   Via my iPhone

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I am in the Travel industry and we have found that people completing
an online form has problems understanding when a field means their
country of origin or the country they want to travel too.

We have the country field under the personal details section, but
some people still tend to complete it with their country of
destination.

Does anybody here have a suggestion on how to solve this? Should we
change the wording for country to something like Home Country, Your
Country or Country of Origin or is there another way?

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel

2008-10-23 Thread Mitchell Joe
Can I see the form?

best,
Mitch


On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Jim Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Country of Origin is ambiguous. Does it mean where you were born, where
 you live, or where you are travelling from?

 (I get that confusion when some asks where I am from. What does that mean?
  Where were you born, they ask. We moved cross-country two weeks later, and
 back two years after that. Where's your hometown? What's that? I've never
 lived in the same city for more than 8 years, and that's where I am now.)

 -- Jim
   Via my iPhone


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:45 AM, AJKock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am in the Travel industry and we have found that people completing
 an online form has problems understanding when a field means their
 country of origin or the country they want to travel too.

 We have the country field under the personal details section, but
 some people still tend to complete it with their country of
 destination.

 Does anybody here have a suggestion on how to solve this? Should we
 change the wording for country to something like Home Country, Your
 Country or Country of Origin or is there another way?
 
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[IxDA Discuss] Death to Personas! Long Live Personas! follow-up

2008-10-23 Thread Elizabeth Bacon

Hi folks,

Back in July, I presented a webinar thru Catalyze called Death to  
Personas! Long Live Personas! It recently came to my attention that  
the QA material never got posted, and also my co-author Steve Calde  
and I wanted to make the presentation more generally available.


So, I have posted our slides on SlideShare, accessible through this  
link: http://www.slideshare.net/ebacon/death-to-personas-long-live-personas-presentation/ 
. I've also posted the questions raised by attendees along with my  
answers as a comment on this page. If you'd prefer to experience the  
hour-long recording of the webinar itself, you can use this link: http://tinyurl.com/5zjkvt 
. This URL handles playback or download of Catalyze's WebEx event  
recording. (I've found that the recording crashes Firefox on the Mac  
but it works in Safari and IE.)


Personas are an important tool in my IxD bag o' tricks ever since my  
days at Cooper, and I'm always glad to field questions or thoughts  
about 'em! :)


Best regards,
Liz


Vice-President, IxDA / www.ixda.org
CDO, Devise / www.devise.com









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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Ivrea Legacy ... Its like impressive

2008-10-23 Thread Chris Noessel
What a giant question, David. (And thanks for the blanket
compliments.) I was part of the founding class, and I'd say the
things that made it the thing what it was for me are:

1. A spirit of entrepreneurship. They were still making it up when we
walked in the door. The constraints and pressures of the new school
meant we had to decide what we wanted and make it happen despite the
chaos, and much of the faculty recognized and supported it.

I made a poster with the IDII building flying in the sky with the
X-Files-esque caption I Want to Believe and a number of other
students and faculty said they felt the same.

2. Deep pockets. Telecom Italia was the original sponsor for the
program, and rumors ran that they were hoping to turn it into an IP
farm. They were eager to have interaction design expertise flourish
in Italy generally, and were prepared to front lots of money for it.

3. The inclusion of business in the curriculum: RCA and ITP both were
(and still are) working fantastic programs that focused on art. IDII
included real-world business as an equal partner in the curriculum.
This was attractive to employers who felt students had exposure to
business strategy and thinking, and obviously encouraged graduates to
act on their own business ideas.

4. Well-connected faculty: Gillian picked the multicultural faculty
carefully for subject expertise, pedagogical eloquence, and/or
industry experience. Through them we had a stream of fantastic
lecturers and adjunct professors, even though we were in a small
Italian town a couple of hours from the nearest metro.

5. Culture clash: There was a clash between the different cultures
participating. I recall some deep discussions between the students on
the merits of the USofA-esque, aggressive style of being a student,
and the more passive expectations of the European-esque-educated
students. We learned a lot from each other, and I at least was
constantly inspired by the intersections.

Additionally, and this is a little nuanced, but I think the fact that
we had to up-level our English helped a lot as well. Native speakers
couldn't rely on idiom and slang, and we had to think about what we
were saying and get very used to explaining and re-explaining
ourselves. This forced us to examine and iterate our ideas quite a
bit.

6. Isolation: This worked against us part of the time because it was
hard to find materials and services to support our work. (Not to
mention the constant need for interpreters for those of us whose
Italian was middling at best.) But it also kept us free from
distractions and focused on creating and nurturing the internal
culture.

We even lived in the same strange underground apartment block,
reinforcing this interdependence and sense of like-it-or-not family.

7. Connected locals: I'm not sure this would need to be replicated
in another school, but in Italy it was vital to have staff who were
in with the locals.

This is MHO. I'd love to hear from other IDII veterans. What did I
miss?


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?

2008-10-23 Thread Hernandez, Barbara
Hi all

I work every day with multi-talented designers who are the whole package and 
more. They take our designs from concept to finished art. They are masters of 
both interaction and visual design (and no you can't have them :)).

That said, I have worked on both sides of this argument. I have worked as an 
interaction designer who relied on graphic artists to create the graphics for 
my designs. Looking back, and now having worked with the designers on my team, 
most of the graphics artists I worked with in the past with could function 
easily as interaction designers. Some of them did - but only on their portfolio 
sites, not at work.

In other cases, I struggled with graphic artists that worked in the print world 
and didn't get the interactive component so it was near impossible to get the 
visual design to support the interaction.

Is there room for both specializations, sure, IMHO we get great, world class 
design from designers with talent for both interaction and visual design. And 
yes, we call them User Experience Designers because they design the whole 
experience.

Regards
Barb Hernandez
User Experience Manager | TechSmith Corporation


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interaction without (great) visual design skills?


On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Dennis, Alan wrote:

 Basically, my point is that if you want to make great designs, I do
 believe you need to have somewhat of an understanding in the various
 disciplines involved. Visual design is one of those disciplines that
 can help immensely.

Having an understanding and appreciation for a related discipline
isn't the same as being a master of it. Good visual design can enhance
interactions, or can break them. The interaction design is the
foundation of a good design.

I believe that being a good interaction design who has good visual
design skills is better than one who doesn't. However, I don't believe
for a minute that you can't be a good interaction designer if you
don't have good visual design skills. As long as you understand the
practice and appreciate it, then you can be a great interaction
designer.

Stating interaction designers have to be good visual designers is like
saying good programmers have to be good interaction designers.
Software development is an evolutionary process. We rely on each other
as a team.


Cheers!

Todd Zaki Warfel
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?

2008-10-23 Thread Christine Boese
I don't know if this is a different tack on this topic or not, but I'll
throw it out here.

I think it is one thing to have visual design skills, and another thing to
be current in the field of visual design. I have been a visual designer,
going back to the time of print-only publication design (makes me feel long
of tooth these days).

One thing I did not do was study graphic or visual design at an art school,
and my MFA is not in art.

However, I have no desire to be a visual designer on the web. There is a lot
about print design that still intrigues me, but the idea of only doing web
visual design feels to me... blasphemy alert boring /blasphemy. Sort of
like, what if all I did as a visual designer was design print stationary
letterheads. I know there are people who live to design letterheads, and I
don't mean to put down their profession, but I could not do it.

I have the skills and understand the basic principles, can use the tools,
have taught visual communications grad seminars, etc. That is not the issue.

What I get bored with is following the hemlines of contemporary commercial
graphic design, particularly on the web. What colors are hot this year? What
fonts are in and what fonts are out this year? Trendy design, in other
words.

There are many things in this world I find fascinating, stimulating. But as
with when I worked as a professional photographer and photojournalist, I
lose interest in work when it starts feeling formulaic, when I feel like I'm
just a hack following the latest trendy fashion. I used to shoot sports, and
especially loved shooting fluid movement sports, where action didn't stop
and start, like basketball, soccer, rugby. But that bored me eventually,
because there's only so many different ways you can put a ball through a
hoop.

Interaction design fascinates me when content sets are complex, when
interactions are like puzzles to solve. Interaction design bores me when
design patterns are routine and I see no reason to reinvent the wheel, esp
not for a gratuitous flash or graphic effect. If I were doing nothing but
visual design for repetitive patterns, I'd be going crazy, I think! Page
banners, tab menus, simple outline hierarchies. How many different ways can
you as a visual designer put that ball through that hoop?

There's nothing you can do but follow the hemlines, watch the rise and fall
of this year's font trends, banner color palettes, or 3-d pops. Try to push
on it a little.

Now that is a skill, to do it really well, just as it is a skill to be an
art director on a slick glossy print magazine, or to be the kind of
photographer who shoots concept cars in big studios with soft boxes the size
of the car, with 8x10 view cameras. That's art school kind of skill, and my
visual design skills, while perfectly competent to design and shoot for for
a good quality university admissions viewbook and win some awards, won't
ever dance at that level.

And ultimately, that's why I'm drawn more to interaction design. This kind
of design has deeper puzzles to plumb the depths of, bigger problems to
wrestle with. I do love beautiful design, but our screens are still small,
images display in even smaller postage stamp frames inside them, templates
are constantly becoming oppressive (from a dramatic visual design
perspective-- I loved doing double-truck full bleed print designs, heavy
with photos, 20x30 color posters, etc), and bandwidth concerns are always
nipping at our heels. As a visual designer, I still find the constraints of
the web too... constraining. Good thing I'm not doing that full time,
nothing but visual design, obsessing on fonts, color palettes, pixels, and
res. I think I'd be going crazy.

Sorry in advance if I am blaspheming overmuch. I mean, because we do still
have trendy wireframe fonts, and are rounded corners in this year, or out?
Hemlines. Should I wear a miniskirt? Or are the hemlines coming back down
again?

Chris

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Hernandez, Barbara 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all

 I work every day with multi-talented designers who are the whole package
 and more. They take our designs from concept to finished art. They are
 masters of both interaction and visual design (and no you can't have them
 :)).

 That said, I have worked on both sides of this argument. I have worked as
 an interaction designer who relied on graphic artists to create the graphics
 for my designs. Looking back, and now having worked with the designers on my
 team, most of the graphics artists I worked with in the past with could
 function easily as interaction designers. Some of them did - but only on
 their portfolio sites, not at work.

 In other cases, I struggled with graphic artists that worked in the print
 world and didn't get the interactive component so it was near impossible to
 get the visual design to support the interaction.

 Is there room for both specializations, sure, IMHO we get great, world
 class design from designers with talent for both