Re: [slim] What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 Question: What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ? - Simplified installation and initial configuration - Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration - Integrated support for ripping music from CD and tagging it - Support for more online streaming services - Improved stability of mysqeueezebox.com - Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Firmware - New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music without a computer - New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support - New Squeezebox hardware with support for video - New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price I would also vote for 1W standby power consumption. -- Meridion 1701 Alben mit 20869 Titel von 1661 Interpreten. Meridion's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
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Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ?
- I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that
works good ?
- I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost
too much to switch
- I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to
something else anytime soon
- I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to
something else that supports this
- I would consider switching if someone offered something with
similar functionality
- I have already started to look for something else but haven't found
anything interesting yet
- I have already started or completed the transition to something
else
rcstevensonaz;642725 Wrote:
But, for those of us who use this is a primary whole-house audio
device, what's happened in the last 3 years?
A lot has happened on the hardware side for everyone that don't have a
pre-amp and external speakers in every room:
RECEIVER - MARCH 2008
- which allowed a cheap alternative to expand to another room
- which made third party remotes like iPeng and SqueezePad and
SqueezeCommander possible thanks to additions needed for the Squeezebox
Controller remote
BOOM - AUGUST 2008
- Stereo player in a room without external amplifiers and speakers
RADIO - SEPTEMBER 2009
- Small player for rooms which don't need stereo
- Battery based player that could be taken out in the garden
TOUCH - APRIL 2010
- Mainly an upgrade of the Classic with better sound
- Could have been a lot more if the built-in server had worked
reliable
I'm more disappointed at the progress on the software side than the
hardware side. If Logitech continue to release new hardware every year
as they've done the last three years it really doesn't look bad on the
hardware side. Of course, I personally doubt we will get any new
hardware during 2011, but this is just a feeling and not based on any
real information from Logitech.
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Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else I voted on the 1st alternative, but there were other valid points as well. Such as having recently bought more .. :D Well I wouldn't have if they didn't work well for me, would I? I don't know if there is anything better out there, and honestly couldn't be bothered. The Squeezebox system is so good that once I found it some 3 years ago, I stopped looking at once. Haven't looked anywhere else since then and probably won't find the need to anytime soon. -Skinny -- Skinny This sentence says less than a list of audio equipment. Skinny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21538 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else I'm with erland here the server software could be so much more. But the open source plugin architechture makes it unique for these kind of products. I can listen to spotify on my SB3 that product was designed before spotify existed in the first place :) This just one example, wich other products of this kind stays usefull over such a long time. that the sad thing about the underdeveloped software, it has potential to do even more. both regarding exploring ones own music and adding even more services. or even better combinations of the above why not search spotify for similar music to the files from my own library ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Test
No, never any problems with dropouts with wired Squeezeboxes (SB2 SB3), but problems with the Receiver/Controller setup on WiFi. This led me (some time ago) to check the wired streaming rates to establish what rates the AP could expect to receive the data stream on the Ethernet port. I was surprised that on a Fast Ethernet LAN, it was tripping over itself at 5000 kbps. This led me to try other Windows XP machines as servers, then Linux, resulting in the observations above. Having by now got used to the feeling that the Duet is intrinsically a bit naff, my current interest is in setting up a new media sever and choosing the best OS to run on it. If the Network Test plugin is a reliable indication, then I might want to avoid XP, but I dont want to dismiss it without convincing myself that it actually is XP rather than some tweak Im missing. Its just occurred to me that my wifes (mainly Photoshop) PC runs Windows 7 Home Premium. Ill put Squeezebox Server + 250 Gig of .flacs on that and see how she runs. -- Skye Skye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11214 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
I use album RG on all pop/rock, since that's been afflicted by the 'loudness war' and needs 6/7/8 dB knocked off. Never needed for classical. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] General Issues / a bit of help please?
Hi all; I'm running squeezebox server 7.3.3 on a Buffalo Linkstation NAS (HS-DHGL8C3). Until recently, I've been using a squeezebox boom and also a Roku M1001 accessing the NAS wirelessly via Squeezebox server, Apart from odd drop outs, it's all held together well. I've just bought a SB Touch which I can run either wired or wirelessly. Despite the Boom and Roku happily planing, I had some initial issues with the Touch as it was saying I had to update the Server software however it then sprung into life (unf. I can't remember what I did). 2 days later, it's again saying the Server S/W needs an update (Boom continues to play however). Given that the Server is running from the NAS, I'd prefer to leave that alone and get the Touch working wherever possible My main questions are: 1. With regard to reliability etc am I better using the Touch as a server for the Boom/Roku (i.e. buy a USB HDD) or stick with the NAS approach running the server? 2. Any ideas what needs doing to get the Touch working - for 36 hours it was fine and I've not aware I've changed any settings and assume I'm likely to be 'operator error'. 3. The speakers in my main hifi set up seem to have a static build up when the Roku or Touch are connected. The Roku used a phono out to RCA, the touch uses 2 x RCAs but the problem (whilst not quite as bad now) persists. Does anyone else have/had this problem? I love the funtionality of the Squeezebox approach however I'm currently music-less in my lounge and would appreaciate any assistance Cheers all! -- onemeg onemeg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88974 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Issues / a bit of help please?
onemeg;642759 Wrote:
1. With regard to reliability etc am I better using the Touch as a
server for the Boom/Roku (i.e. buy a USB HDD) or stick with the NAS
approach running the server?
You could try, the built-in server in the Touch works for some people
and doesn't work at all for other people. It all depends on library
size, hard drive model and possibly also other factors.
onemeg;642759 Wrote:
2. Any ideas what needs doing to get the Touch working - for 36 hours
it was fine and I've not aware I've changed any settings and assume I'm
likely to be 'operator error'.
I think the Touch requires a Squeezebox Server 7.5.x, either the
built-in one (with a connected USB drive) or the one you have on the
NAS (if you upgrade it to 7.5.x) or the one at mysqueezebox.com (which
doesn't stream any local music files).
If you connect it to different server versions, it's going to ask you
to upgrade firmware every time you switch server. This can be
especially frustrating for people who often switch between a local
server and mysqueezebox.com if their local server doesn't match the
version currently used at mysqueezebox.com.
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Re: [slim] General Issues / a bit of help please?
best bet would be to get 7.5.6 beta going ( has some anoying scanner bugs fixed ). 7.6 may be to much beta but it has better performance on low spec hardware. if 7.6 works all is well but it has the potential to not work at all ( it is an experimental beta ) all plugins is not yet supported, for example custombrowse. if you decide to upgrade you may want a completely clean install with such large version jump ( remove every trace of the old install ) and yes 7.5.0 is the minimum version that supports Touch . the Touch onboard server can work provided a very tidy library with no messy tags cover art as jpg ( no bmp or png ) and the rigth USB drive and a reasonable amount of files around 10k files are suggested use FLAC or MP3 alac or aac or wma migth be more buggy. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88974 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Issues / a bit of help please?
thanks v.m. for the initial messages. I'm confused then how the Touch somehow, for a while, happily worked with the 7.3.3 but I take your point. This therefore leads to a further question! Assuming 7.5.6 will run on the Linkstation NAS, how do I upgrade the server on the NAS? I previously ran Twonky on the NAS (when I only had the Roku) and it seemed smoother/less hungry than Squeezeserver. When I got the Boom, I wiped the NAS and installed Squezebox Server using telnet etc. Whilst I can follow instructions etc and got there in the end I don't really understand exactly what is going on and therefore need to follow step by step guides I'm afraid. Would it be possible to revert to Twonky (I suspect not) or what's the easiest (least likely to brick!) way to upgrade the Server s/w on the NAS? I've previously googled around looking for this but couldn't find a definitive guide? cheers again -- onemeg onemeg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88974 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Issues / a bit of help please?
onemeg;642768 Wrote: thanks v.m. for the initial messages. I'm confused then how the Touch somehow, for a while, happily worked with the 7.3.3 but I take your point. This therefore leads to a further question! Assuming 7.5.6 will run on the Linkstation NAS, how do I upgrade the server on the NAS? I previously ran Twonky on the NAS (when I only had the Roku) and it seemed smoother/less hungry than Squeezeserver. When I got the Boom, I wiped the NAS and installed Squezebox Server using telnet etc. Whilst I can follow instructions etc and got there in the end I don't really understand exactly what is going on and therefore need to follow step by step guides I'm afraid. Would it be possible to revert to Twonky (I suspect not) or what's the easiest (least likely to brick!) way to upgrade the Server s/w on the NAS? I've previously googled around looking for this but couldn't find a definitive guide? cheers again We have a third party hardware subforum, you may search there for hints from other linkstation users I think there are several ways to accomplish this, but I own a different kind of linux server , but for some reason even if most NAS boxes are linux based they are much harder to get working than a simple linux server ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88974 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody no longer plays on Squeezebox Classic
Same problem here. The Boom and Radio play Rhapsody but the Classic doesn't output audio though I can select tracks. I upgraded to 7.5.5. My classic is unfortunately not accessible so it would be a real pain to connect an Ethernet cable to check if bridging is enabled. Is there any way to verify this from the server? Mana -- mcoste mcoste's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12820 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Issues / a bit of help please?
onemeg;642768 Wrote: I'm confused then how the Touch somehow, for a while, happily worked with the 7.3.3 but I take your point. I strongly suspect you never actually had the Touch running with 7.3.3. It may have been running off its internal server, or off of mysqueezebox.com. onemeg;642768 Wrote: Assuming 7.5.6 will run on the Linkstation NAS, how do I upgrade the server on the NAS? First you are correct that Twonky will not work with Squeezeboxes. You need Squeezebox Server 7.5.0 or later to work with the Touch. Which instructions did you use to install 7.3.3? That would be a starting point for trying to get 7.5.x or 7.6 beta on the LinkStation. Also check the 3rd Party Hardware forum here, which is where most NAS things are discussed. If you have an external USB hard drive handy you may want to seriously consider experimenting with using the Touch's built-in server (TinySBS) instead of using the NAS as the server. Unfortunately, if you use TinySBS you won't be able to use the NAS for your music library -- TinySBS only works with a USB device attached to the Touch or a SecureDigital memory card inserted in the Touch. If you get TinySBS working okay (it's not reliable, but it does work fine for some people) then that would also work as the server for your Boom. I suppose TinySBS would leave the Roku out of the picture, but I guess you could keep running that off the NAS. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88974 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Issues / a bit of help please?
aubuti;642773 Wrote: I strongly suspect you never actually had the Touch running with 7.3.3. It may have been running off its internal server, or off of mysqueezebox.com. First you are correct that Twonky will not work with Squeezeboxes. You need Squeezebox Server 7.5.0 or later to work with the Touch. Which instructions did you use to install 7.3.3? That would be a starting point for trying to get 7.5.x or 7.6 beta on the LinkStation. Also check the 3rd Party Hardware forum here, which is where most NAS things are discussed. If you have an external USB hard drive handy you may want to seriously consider experimenting with using the Touch's built-in server (TinySBS) instead of using the NAS as the server. Unfortunately, if you use TinySBS you won't be able to use the NAS for your music library -- TinySBS only works with a USB device attached to the Touch or a SecureDigital memory card inserted in the Touch. If you get TinySBS working okay (it's not reliable, but it does work fine for some people) then that would also work as the server for your Boom. I suppose TinySBS would leave the Roku out of the picture, but I guess you could keep running that off the NAS. yep the Tiny server on-board Touch does not support slimp3 or SB1 and is not Roku emulating an SB1 ? thats why you can use it with squeezeboxserver ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88974 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wimp app... so stupid...
pippin;642707 Wrote: Hm, works fine in iPeng so I'd say try: On the Controller, press the play button on the track you want to play In SqueeezeCommander, hold the track and then select play. Nope... that's the way it should work, and I thought it did work that way, but it doesn't. Not on the Duet controller, not in Squeeze Commander. On the controller: * clicking play with a song selected, just shudders * middle button click on a song, just brings up details about the song In Squeeze Commander * touching a song, just brings up details about the song * long touch does nothing I really don't understand this. Surely the app wasn't released with such deficiencies? -- OppfinnarJocke // OppfinnarJocke SqueezeBox Duet, Controller FW 7.5.4 r9408, Player FW 69 Main use: Wimp and internet radio through MySB.com OppfinnarJocke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wimp app... so stupid...
OppfinnarJocke;642786 Wrote: Nope... that's the way it should work, and I thought it did work that way, but it doesn't. Not on the Duet controller, not in Squeeze Commander. On the controller: * clicking play with a song selected, just shudders * middle button click on a song, just brings up details about the song In Squeeze Commander * touching a song, just brings up details about the song * long touch does nothing I really don't understand this. Surely the app wasn't released with such deficiencies? Well, I tried the controller and SqueezeCommander, too, and it doesn't do that for me. Have you tried updating to SBS 7.5.5? Is your country setting in MySB really Norway (although that shouldn't matter since it worked without that for me, too). -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wimp app... so stupid...
Hm, now that I try this again I can't seem to actually play anything from WiMP anymore. I still don't see your symptoms (it loads the playlist just fine), just actual streaming doesn't seem to work. It did tonight when I tried this (After your post). -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Test
Well, tried that: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit gave pretty much the same results as XP. Hmm.. -- Skye Skye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11214 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Test
Net test relies on timers in the operating system to generate the test traffic. I've not tried it on windows recently, but it may be that this causes the limitation. It will be different on Touch/Radio with 7.6 and should be more accurate. If it reads 1500 all the time I would not worry - it should be enough to stream flac. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Free AVG Anti Virus Software
The last review I read in PCPro showed AVG to trap more virus's and worms than all other comparable products. It was awarded a best buy. -- spile spile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Free AVG Anti Virus Software
As a Barclays online Banker I have found I have three full subscriptions tp Kapersky - I will uses those. http://www.kaspersky.co.uk/barclays_faq -- Labarum Brian In Southampton: Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 In Nicosia: Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man - Quart 980s German Tower Loudspeakers. Boom in conservatory. http://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/MB_Quart_980_S In both: Squeezebox Classic, Beresford Caiman DAC, Sony MDR-F1 Headphones Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else I'm usually the first one to bitch about anything, but I agree with every positive comment in this thread and have not experienced any of the downsides some have. I think the *only* issue I've ever had over the years was the obnoxious network trouble in 7.5.3, and even that was pretty minor. Someone else used the phrase life changing and I have to agree. I'm 52 and have been obsessed with recorded music and its playback technology literally for as long as I can remember. When people first started talking about music servers, my knee-jerk reaction was Why bother? I still think that the CD is an *excellent* music delivery system and thought that people complaining about the alleged inconvenience of discs were crazy. But at some point in the high-speed Internet era I started downloading lossless live concerts and, as an eMusic member, MP3s. I also discovered online radio, specifically Radio Paradise. Integrating all that stuff into a normal stereo was a pain. I started out with a Roku Soundbridge just because I liked having something like that for Internet radio. But I was never happy with its playback of my own files (anything that isn't gapless is, as far as I'm concerned, crap) and on a whim bought a Squeezebox. Oh, boy. At first it was just to let me mix and match Internet radio with what I'd downloaded. It was nice to be able to audition the downloads before committing them to disc and *then* finding out there was some fatal problem. But it didn't take long before I started thinking about putting my main collection of pressed CDs online and once I started, I was unable to stop until I was finished. It took me fully a year and half to get it all done but now, as others have said, I listen to my music more than I did for years beforehand. I've probably got 2,500 or more CDs. They're reasonably well organized, but the physical reality of the layout of the house combined with general clutter makes some of them difficult to get to. Then there's that whole thing where I know I have a copy of that song, but what compilation CD is it on..? None of that is an issue any more. And my normal collection integrates perfectly with my bootleg collection and with Internet radio and with podcasts. EVERYTHING is in one place. The ability to queue up any songs I want, re-arrange playlists on the fly, add another track because something in what I'm listening to now reminds me of it, etc. just makes it all even sweeter. There are even obscure cases where playing something via the Squeezebox works better than playing the disc. I've collected a lot of DTS conversions of old quadraphonic albums over the years, and my luck getting CD-Rs to work reliably on disc spinners has been up and down. I no longer care: If I can get a clean read into the computer, I'm set. Then there's the whole thing about being able to get to my entire library from any wi-fi equipped motel anywhere in the world... The list just goes on and on and on. Other than, I suppose, the amount of time it took to set everything up, I can't think of a single negative about this system at all. No, I take that back: The one single lone thing it can't do that I wish it could is output multichannel FLAC, allowing me to get my DVD-As online. Of course, that's probably a fraction of a percent of my collection and I'm not losing any sleep over it. Another completely unexpected benefit is that it's gotten me a bit more comfortable using Linux. I started out with an XP server, but it was just too overloaded and didn't work out so well. I wound up buying a very cheap box to run Linux and haven't looked back. -- atrocity atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list
[slim] Squeezebox won't play
So, everything is fine, server is running, squeezebox on, amp is on, but when I hit play , it won't play. what can be up? -- thesil Gerry. When you ain't got nuthin', you've got nuthin' to lose SB3 with duet controller; Rotel power amp and Rotel receiver, BW Z4 speakers and BW subwoofer upstairs . Onkyo 7.1 surround sound with NHT speakers and Velodyne sub downstairs. Bose V20 lifestyle system in music room. Got it all covered!! thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88986 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else I have owned an SB3 for 5 years now. My collection includes: - 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 2 x Duet I love the quality of the sound, the 3rd party applications, the easy access to some 60,000 tracks AND the ability to stream podcasts and radio stations seamlessly. I absolutely LOVE the fact that I can control all the units using my iPhone or ProntoSqueeze. The only down side has been that the software has been a little odd from time to time but for me the system is rock solid. Perhaps this is as I'm a networking guy by trade which means GigE everywhere, a stable wireless infrastructure and manged address allocation. Regardless, I love the little things. I just wish that intelligent playlists were better. -- Kaizen28 Kaizen28's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5953 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Synchronise SBs with iPeng
I've recently got Ipeng (iPhone app) to control 3 different SBs and am trying to work out how to sync (and unsync) them all to play the same thing. Can anyone advise? Many thanks -- shogger shogger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synchronise SBs with iPeng
shogger;642883 Wrote: I've recently got Ipeng (iPhone app) to control 3 different SBs and am trying to work out how to sync (and unsync) them all to play the same thing. Can anyone advise? Many thanks Help-Quick Tutorials-Players and Music Source or http://penguinlovesmusic.de/ipeng-the-iphone-skin-for-squeezecenter/how-to-use-the-ipeng-application/nowplaying/ Essentially, there are two ways: either you dragdrop the players onto each other or you mark a few of them and press the sync button. I find the latter option to be the most simple and efficient one but that may be only me. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Spotify skipping
I have a premium account with spottily USA. Everything works fine on their software but squeezebox keep skipping songs. I have tried both official and triode plugin to no avail, any pointers? -- MediaCenter Source Device: Transporter Amplifiers: NAD C272 x 2 Bridge Mono Speakers: Magnepan MMG Pre-amplifier: NAD C162 Room Correction: Inguz DRC MediaCenter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88988 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else Why do I stick with Squeezebox? The software updates are frequently irritating (I've turned off automatic updates after 7.5.5) and the clients are not exactly intuitive. But, at the time I bought my first one (see sig) there simply wasn't a viable and affordable alternative. My brother-in-law bought Sonos and, while he's had none of the wireless networking issues I enjoy, he has had many library management issues with the system simply not seeing some sources. And he's an Apple fanatic as well! Plus I think my system looks and sounds better than his. Until the Sonos Play 3 there wasn't an equivalent to Boom (better bring in Boom 2 quickly guys) and the Radio is still the best. Touch is flawed but unbeatable for the price IMHO. Would I buy again? Maybe. I've been a Naim fan for years and may have gone the Uniti route had it arrived earlier or if I was starting out now. But I've also realised that I'm now retired with 60-year-old years so income and hearing are now both sub-optimal. I'm now the weak link in the audio chain. Heck - I've also just splashed out on a Revox PR99 MK2 reel-to-reel tape recorder so what does that tell you about me? Bottom line - still good value for money but not recommended for techno-phobes. Thank you and good night. GRC -- GRC -Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it ...- Acer Z5610 1TB Quad-Core Touch Windows 7 iTunes (M4A server) Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 AirStation router + repeater SB Touch/DacMagic - Naim system (below) Naim CDX/XPS + NAC52/Supercap + NAP135s + Dynaudio Contour 1.8 MkIIs SlimP3 - Topping TP20 Mk2 - Genexxa PRO LX5 study Boom kitchen Radio bedroom SB3 - AudioEngine A2s terrace SB2 - Rotel RA820BX2 - MA252 garage Controller Various Windoze laptops netbooks + SqueezePlay GRC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synchronise SBs with iPeng
Cheers Pippin, and also for the link to the tutorial -- shogger shogger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] enough of the silliness!
citabria327;642702 Wrote: i re-installed 6.5.4i need some stability I may need to do this, would you tell me how to go about it ? I've had my nice new Squeezebox a few days and have been unable to get one musical note out of it I'm trying to use it plying from an external hard drive but it's not working -- Applegarth Applegarth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88915 Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ? - Its excellent audio quality - Best price/performance on the market - Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution - Great support for online streaming services - Great support for browsing and playing local music - The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on - Its support for third party plugins - The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new features/bugs - This community and forum - I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone I've had my Squeezebox Touch a few days and have been unable to get one musical note out of it I haven't given up yet as I am reasonably competent with computers, I fix peoples desktop and laptop computers, software and hardware at a seniors computer club I would never recommend a Squeezebox Touch to friends or relatives as I would be called upon continually to help them set them up and fix their problems for them If anyone asks me I would tell them to get a good quality CD player Maybe that's what I should have done ! -- Applegarth Applegarth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] enough of the silliness!
Applegarth;642895 Wrote: I may need to do this, would you tell me how to go about it ? I've had my nice new Squeezebox a few days and have been unable to get one musical note out of it I'm trying to use it plying from an external hard drive but it's not working this is likely not a good idea and wouldn't even work with a touch or radio. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88915 Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ? - Its excellent audio quality - Best price/performance on the market - Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution - Great support for online streaming services - Great support for browsing and playing local music - The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on - Its support for third party plugins - The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new features/bugs - This community and forum - I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone Applegarth;642897 Wrote: I've had my Squeezebox Touch a few days and have been unable to get one musical note out of it I haven't given up yet as I am reasonably competent with computers, I fix peoples desktop and laptop computers, software and hardware at a seniors computer club I would never recommend a Squeezebox Touch to friends or relatives as I would be called upon continually to help them set them up and fix their problems for them If anyone asks me I would tell them to get a good quality CD player Maybe that's what I should have done ! I setup a boom and touch for my brother, with a 50,000 mp3 library connected to touch via usb drive running internal tiny SbS. No problems a year later and he doesn't have a clue how any of this works. I set up a boom for an 85+ year old woman connected via mysb.com. No problems almost a year later. And again, she just hits the power button and presets. When firmware updates hit, she has to hit a few keys, but somehow, she has done this without even calling me. In both cases they have robust networks and both are using wifi for everything. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88915 Question: Why recommend someone to get a Squeezebox ? - Its excellent audio quality - Best price/performance on the market - Excellent hardware/software quality of the whole solution - Great support for online streaming services - Great support for browsing and playing local music - The possiblity to extend it to multiple rooms later on - Its support for third party plugins - The possibility to directly interact with Logitech regarding new features/bugs - This community and forum - I wouldn't recommend a Squeezebox to anyone Applegarth;642897 Wrote: I've had my Squeezebox Touch a few days and have been unable to get one musical note out of it I haven't given up yet as I am reasonably competent with computers, I fix peoples desktop and laptop computers, software and hardware at a seniors computer club lots of folks around here to give you help on this. but you should probably start a new thread, and list all the relevant facts. Are you using SbS on your own machine? Which OS, using tinySBS and attached USB drive? etc. What problems are you having. We need info to assist in helping you. Probably something very simple... -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] enough of the silliness!
Applegarth;642895 Wrote: I may need to do this, would you tell me how to go about it ? First, read this: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_comparison . On that page, note that none of the players released since the Transporter will work at all with 6.5.4. So if you have a Boom, Duet, Radio, or Touch -- that version is a complete dead end for you. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moderating the forums
Well with this step amount of conversation in the Audiophile forum will be affected seriously. -- Hannah987 Hannah987's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43454 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New Drive - what to do with playlists?
anyone has any suggestions on how to most effectively migrate playlists? I have a Linux system, it keeps drive names in the playlists as a reference. I guess I should have thought about it when naming my drives... :D -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.5.5 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Touch (1), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC for SB3 mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88994 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
