Re: [Elecraft] Missng parts

2012-02-15 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Same here, Everything I thought was missing (screws or washers or whatever) 
I found in another bag I hadn't opened yet.

73, de Jim KG0KP

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Missng parts


> Be sure to open ALL the bags when you check.  ;-)  Been there, thought 
> that.
>
> Rick WA6NHC
>
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Hunsdon Cary III
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:34 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Missng parts
>
> Well, finally got to open KPA-500 #698. I did a parts inventory and found
> the Rear Panel Envelope (#850475) is missing.
> It contains some essential things so my build is stalled with the bottom
> panel and power supply and left panel done.
> Hope it doesn't take days to get to Virginia from Aptos! I know, everyone
> makes mistakes but it is disappointing.
> RATS!
> 73,
> Cary, K4TM
> H. Cary III
> h3c...@gmail.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Missng parts

2012-02-15 Thread Rick Bates
Be sure to open ALL the bags when you check.  ;-)  Been there, thought that.

Rick WA6NHC

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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Missng parts

Well, finally got to open KPA-500 #698. I did a parts inventory and found
the Rear Panel Envelope (#850475) is missing.
It contains some essential things so my build is stalled with the bottom
panel and power supply and left panel done.
Hope it doesn't take days to get to Virginia from Aptos! I know, everyone
makes mistakes but it is disappointing.
RATS!
73,
Cary, K4TM
H. Cary III
h3c...@gmail.com



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[Elecraft] Missng parts

2012-02-15 Thread Hunsdon Cary III
Well, finally got to open KPA-500 #698. I did a parts inventory and found the 
Rear Panel Envelope (#850475) is missing.
It contains some essential things so my build is stalled with the bottom panel 
and power supply and left panel done.
Hope it doesn't take days to get to Virginia from Aptos! I know, everyone makes 
mistakes but it is disappointing.
RATS!
73,
Cary, K4TM
H. Cary III
h3c...@gmail.com



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread Bob
Anything available for those of us waiting for the P3SVGA add on?

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR

On 2/15/2012 9:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> There will definitely be a February edition of the manual posted on
> our website. It's already in use by our field testers.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:25 PM, John Cooper wrote:
>
>> Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to
>> hold us over while we wait patiently for March?
>>
>> WT5Y
>>


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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Use of Dedicated Monitor

2012-02-15 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
Thanks for the reply, Eric.  And, bummer!  I'm eager to get my P3 
display up on the big 19' monitor.

73,

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA
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K3 #281, P3 #688


On 2/15/2012 2:38 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Close - but it looks like a week or two later as we have just received 
> the boards from assembly and they need to be tested and packaged in 
> manufacturing here.  Also, we are in final testing on the firmware for 
> the SVGA.
>
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> On 2/14/2012 3:07 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham wrote:
>> And are we still looking at the P3SVGA shipping late this week or early
>> next?
>>
>> --Ian
>>
>> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
>> Roswell, GA
>> km4ik@gmail.com
>> K3 #281, P3 #688
>>
>>
>> On 2/14/2012 4:43 PM, KM4VX wrote:
>>> Will the P3SVGA be capable of direct connection to a monitor 
>>> separate from
>>> the computer monitor that might be enabled for other uses with the 
>>> K3?  For
>>> my purposes if I am going to use a larger screen (may or may not be 
>>> useful)
>>> I would want it to be  a dedicated monitor that does not interfere 
>>> with the
>>> normal use of the PC and its monitor. Thank you. Ron
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
There will definitely be a February edition of the manual posted on  
our website. It's already in use by our field testers.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:25 PM, John Cooper wrote:

> Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to  
> hold us over while we wait patiently for March?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Behavior of P3 Display Upon K3 Memory Recall

2012-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

>>> Suggested behavior: Since the P3 has no idea in which direction
>>> tuning will subsequently occur, the cursor/frequency should be
>>> placed in the exact middle of the P3 display. In that manner the
>>> P3 is useful to both sides of the memory-recalled frequency.

I'm not so sure that placing the signal in the exact center of the
display is correct either.  Rather, the signal should be placed in the
"central half" of the display consistent with maintaining even 5/10/25
KHz upper/lower frequency boundaries.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/15/2012 8:19 PM, Gary Ferdinand wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> Toggling between fixed tune and tracking mode is certainly faster and more
> predictable than anything I've found as a work around.  Thanks for the
> suggestion.  I'll give it a try.
>
> Since I'm not always contesting, I'd like to find a way to make the P3
> cursor be well behaved without using a macro from a connected computer.  If
> I could assign a macro to a P3 FN key, that would be a great general
> solution.
>
> Thanks for the toggle suggestion, Mike; it's a good one.
>
> 73/Gary W2CS
>
>
>>
>> I can't say that I have experienced your spotting situation but I would
>> like to describe a different way of getting a signal into the center of
>> the P3 screen in Fixed-Tune mode. I have P3 function key FN4 set to
>> toggle between Fixed-Tune mode and Tracking mode. By pressing it I get
>> the signal of interest to the center of the screen in Tracking mode and
>> pressing it again returns me to Fixed-Tune mode except the signal stays
>> in the center. The double press can be done instantly.
>>
>> Then I took that one step further. I'm generally on CW using WriteLog
>> for contests and as a general logging program. I'm always using the K3
>> Auto Spot to zero in on a CW station of interest. I created a macro in
>> WriteLog to activate the K3 Auto Spot and to twice activate P3 function
>> key FN4. It's really cool.
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike K2MK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary Ferdinand wrote
>>>
>>> I should like to suggest that a boundary-condition change be made to
>>> the
>>> P3
>>> display behavior.The current behavior I view to be a firmware
>> defect.
>>>
>>> P3 mode settings are:   Fixed Tune mode.  Half Span.
>>>
>>> Current behavior:  When recalling a frequency from a K3 memory and
>>> that frequency is off the current display of the P3, the P3 sets the
>>> cursor (and therefore frequency) at the left edge of the screen.  This
>>> obscures everything below the memory-recalled frequency.
>>>
>>> Suggested behavior:  Since the P3 has no idea in which direction
>>> tuning will subsequently occur, the cursor/frequency should be placed
>>> in the exact middle of the P3 display.  In that manner the P3 is
>>> useful to both sides of the memory-recalled frequency.
>>>
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay choices

2012-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> Years ago, using QSK with a 1kmp (adjustable TX delay) with an
> Ameritron AL1200 (not a QSK amp), in a contest I would often get
> "UE7XF?". Using 'break-in' + 'VOX' would get "VE7XF".

That was typical with Yaesu FT-1000MP and MKV.  If the PTT did not
close more than the "TX Delay" time before the key closed the first
element would be dropped entirely (not just clipped).  Using break-in
+ VOX allowed the rig to switch before the PTT.  Yaesu never did
"delay" the CW ...

> I'm never sure whether to use the TX Delay available in the microHAM
> software or in the K3 (or both). (Any hints, Joe?)

If you're using PTT switching or semi-break in (VOX), I'd set the
PTT Lead in microHAM Router to 25 ms (long enough for even the slow
relay in the AL-1200) and use the microHAM PA PTT output to key the
amplifier *before* the K3 and leave the K3 set for its normal 8 ms
TX Delay.

This probably means switching the PA PTT line when switching amplifiers
or adding diodes so the lines can be safely connected in parallel.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/15/2012 3:25 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:
> I don't use QSK - I don't like the noise between characters.
> In casual DXing, I (almost) always use a footswitch to ensure the amp has
> settled before any RF hits it. I always use an external keyer.
> While contesting, I use N1MM to microHAM (Winkey) to K3.
> I'm never sure whether to use the TX Delay available in the microHAM
> software or in the K3 (or both). (Any hints, Joe?)
>
> Years ago, using QSK with a 1kmp (adjustable TX delay) with an Ameritron
> AL1200 (not a QSK amp), in a contest I would often get "UE7XF?".
> Using 'break-in' + 'VOX' would get "VE7XF".
>
> When I switched to a true QSK amp (Acom 1000), lead element elimination in
> QSK was no longer a problem. I still didn't use it because of the noise,
> but I was confident that the amp was happy.
>
> Now, I mostly use the K3, and I have a choice of 3 amps (the above plus
> KPA500), so solving the 'Where do I put the TX Delay' question would be a
> help to put my mind at ease.
>
> Ralph, VE7XF
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Re: [Elecraft] Behavior of P3 Display Upon K3 Memory Recall

2012-02-15 Thread Gary Ferdinand
Hi Mike,

Toggling between fixed tune and tracking mode is certainly faster and more
predictable than anything I've found as a work around.  Thanks for the
suggestion.  I'll give it a try.  

Since I'm not always contesting, I'd like to find a way to make the P3
cursor be well behaved without using a macro from a connected computer.  If
I could assign a macro to a P3 FN key, that would be a great general
solution.

Thanks for the toggle suggestion, Mike; it's a good one.

73/Gary W2CS


>
>I can't say that I have experienced your spotting situation but I would
>like to describe a different way of getting a signal into the center of
>the P3 screen in Fixed-Tune mode. I have P3 function key FN4 set to
>toggle between Fixed-Tune mode and Tracking mode. By pressing it I get
>the signal of interest to the center of the screen in Tracking mode and
>pressing it again returns me to Fixed-Tune mode except the signal stays
>in the center. The double press can be done instantly.
>
>Then I took that one step further. I'm generally on CW using WriteLog
>for contests and as a general logging program. I'm always using the K3
>Auto Spot to zero in on a CW station of interest. I created a macro in
>WriteLog to activate the K3 Auto Spot and to twice activate P3 function
>key FN4. It's really cool.
>
>73,
>Mike K2MK
>
>
>
>
>Gary Ferdinand wrote
>>
>> I should like to suggest that a boundary-condition change be made to
>> the
>> P3
>> display behavior.The current behavior I view to be a firmware
>defect.
>>
>> P3 mode settings are:   Fixed Tune mode.  Half Span.
>>
>> Current behavior:  When recalling a frequency from a K3 memory and
>> that frequency is off the current display of the P3, the P3 sets the
>> cursor (and therefore frequency) at the left edge of the screen.  This
>> obscures everything below the memory-recalled frequency.
>>
>> Suggested behavior:  Since the P3 has no idea in which direction
>> tuning will subsequently occur, the cursor/frequency should be placed
>> in the exact middle of the P3 display.  In that manner the P3 is
>> useful to both sides of the memory-recalled frequency.
>>


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[Elecraft] Receiver numbers for the KX3

2012-02-15 Thread Joseph Trombino, Jr


Just wondering that since we are so near the initial release of the KX3 if any 
receiver performance numbers are available?

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] Behavior of P3 Display Upon K3 Memory Recall

2012-02-15 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Gary,

I can't say that I have experienced your spotting situation but I would like
to describe a different way of getting a signal into the center of the P3
screen in Fixed-Tune mode. I have P3 function key FN4 set to toggle between
Fixed-Tune mode and Tracking mode. By pressing it I get the signal of
interest to the center of the screen in Tracking mode and pressing it again
returns me to Fixed-Tune mode except the signal stays in the center. The
double press can be done instantly.

Then I took that one step further. I'm generally on CW using WriteLog for
contests and as a general logging program. I'm always using the K3 Auto Spot
to zero in on a CW station of interest. I created a macro in WriteLog to
activate the K3 Auto Spot and to twice activate P3 function key FN4. It's
really cool.

73,
Mike K2MK




Gary Ferdinand wrote
> 
> I should like to suggest that a boundary-condition change be made to the
> P3
> display behavior.The current behavior I view to be a firmware defect.
>  
> P3 mode settings are:   Fixed Tune mode.  Half Span.
>  
> Current behavior:  When recalling a frequency from a K3 memory and that
> frequency is off the current display of the P3, the P3 sets the cursor
> (and
> therefore frequency) at the left edge of the screen.  This obscures
> everything below the memory-recalled frequency.
>  
> Suggested behavior:  Since the P3 has no idea in which direction tuning
> will
> subsequently occur, the cursor/frequency should be placed in the exact
> middle of the P3 display.  In that manner the P3 is useful to both sides
> of
> the memory-recalled frequency.
>  
>  
> My current workaround is to doubly-hit the CENTER(HOLD) key on the P3. 
> That
> is doubly timing sensitive:  Did I hold it long enough to be recognized as
> a
> HOLD?  Did I time the second HOLD closely enough (and long enough) to
> cause
> the cursor to be centered?   This isn't good.   
>  
> Another workaround is for me to tune the VFO down in frequency some
> arbitrarily small amount and then back.   This puts an approximation of
> the
> proper frequency in the center due to the specified Half Span, but only an
> approximation, since "Half Span" is relative to wherever I tuned down to.
>  
>  
> I run net operations.  I wish to be on-frequency with a single button
> push.
> I do not wish to use the other mode of tracking, whereby the cursor stays
> in
> the center and the display moves behind it.  My brain does not think that
> way.  The displayed band segment (in my mind) should be constant, and it's
> the VFO that is varying, not vice-versa.
>  
> Tnx es 73,
>  
> Gary W2CS
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Nick-WA5BDU
I think when in semi-break-in, you'd only be concerned about chopping 
the first element.  I just checked my AL-811 manual and it says the 
relay may take 15ms to operate.  My K3 is set for 8ms (default) but I 
turn QSK off when I use it.

I just tried it while monitoring on a separate receiver sending Vs at 25 
WPM with the built-in keyer and don't hear shortening of the first dit.

But I am on the edge, unless the 15ms figure is for drop-out and pull in 
is a lot faster than that.

73-

Nick, WA5BDU

On 2/15/2012 12:26 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
> confused by all this K3 TX DLY chatter
> please answer the following question(s)
>
> my cw operation is with Simi QSK @ 13-25wpm
> sometimes with a straight key
> but most times using the internal K3 keyer
>
> so are you saying.
> I shouldn't run the K3 with my older AL-811 (3 tube)
> or I will be transmitting these chopped off cw characters
>
> or would this only happen if I were to use FAST QSK
> or is it ok in either Slow or Fast
> as long as I stay below about 30wpm
>
> also, if I can use the K3 and AL-811,
> in either or both QSK modes,
> what TX DLY setting should be used
>
> --
> GB&  73
> K5OAI
> Sam Morgan
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread Keith Heimbold
So the date is now March or was it always March. I am excited nevertheless. I 
can't wait to bring it on the babymoon in April. 

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "John Cooper"  wrote:

> Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to hold us 
> over while we wait patiently for March?
> 
> WT5Y
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[Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread John Cooper
Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to hold us 
over while we wait patiently for March?

WT5Y
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[Elecraft] [KX3] Status?

2012-02-15 Thread Steve KC8QVO
We're half way through the month. Any word on getting close to shipment? Will
it be closer to the end of February or first couple weeks of March? 

Steve, KC8QVO 

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[Elecraft] KAT500 latest update???

2012-02-15 Thread Joe K2UF
Any new info on the KAT500?  $$numbers, pix etc.

Any info from the Orlando show?

I and my K-line are anxiously awaiting any info on my pending tuner.

Joe K2UF 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay choices

2012-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ralph,

If you are using PTT in all cases, then you do not have to worry about 
the TX delay (set it to the default of 8 ms).  Do NOT put the K3 into 
VOX and all will be OK.  If you do set the K3 to VOX, then you might be 
in trouble because both "hit the key to transmit" and PTT will both be 
capable of putting the K3 into transmit - as I indicated, turn off VOX 
if you are using a footswitch - that will prevent you from initializing 
TX with the key before you engage the footswitch.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2012 3:25 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:
> I don't use QSK - I don't like the noise between characters.
> In casual DXing, I (almost) always use a footswitch to ensure the amp has
> settled before any RF hits it. I always use an external keyer.
> While contesting, I use N1MM to microHAM (Winkey) to K3.
> I'm never sure whether to use the TX Delay available in the microHAM
> software or in the K3 (or both). (Any hints, Joe?)
>
> Years ago, using QSK with a 1kmp (adjustable TX delay) with an Ameritron
> AL1200 (not a QSK amp), in a contest I would often get "UE7XF?".
> Using 'break-in' + 'VOX' would get "VE7XF".
>
> When I switched to a true QSK amp (Acom 1000), lead element elimination in
> QSK was no longer a problem. I still didn't use it because of the noise,
> but I was confident that the amp was happy.
>
> Now, I mostly use the K3, and I have a choice of 3 amps (the above plus
> KPA500), so solving the 'Where do I put the TX Delay' question would be a
> help to put my mind at ease.
>
> Ralph, VE7XF
>
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[Elecraft] K2 External T-R Relay Driver Kit by N0SS

2012-02-15 Thread Bill W4ZV
By any chance does anyone have one of these they've never used?  I ordered
one from N0SS last May but it was never shipped due to Tom's untimely death. 
Before reconstructing one from his webpage info, I thought I'd check to see
if anyone has one they don't need.  Please reply direct with price, etc.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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[Elecraft] K2 For Sale

2012-02-15 Thread Ed G
Fully loaded K2/15W in mint condition, for sale.  S/N 3938.  $1075.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay choices

2012-02-15 Thread Ralph Parker
I don't use QSK - I don't like the noise between characters.
In casual DXing, I (almost) always use a footswitch to ensure the amp has
settled before any RF hits it. I always use an external keyer.
While contesting, I use N1MM to microHAM (Winkey) to K3.
I'm never sure whether to use the TX Delay available in the microHAM
software or in the K3 (or both). (Any hints, Joe?)

Years ago, using QSK with a 1kmp (adjustable TX delay) with an Ameritron
AL1200 (not a QSK amp), in a contest I would often get "UE7XF?".
Using 'break-in' + 'VOX' would get "VE7XF".

When I switched to a true QSK amp (Acom 1000), lead element elimination in
QSK was no longer a problem. I still didn't use it because of the noise,
but I was confident that the amp was happy.

Now, I mostly use the K3, and I have a choice of 3 amps (the above plus
KPA500), so solving the 'Where do I put the TX Delay' question would be a
help to put my mind at ease.

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Use of Dedicated Monitor

2012-02-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Close - but it looks like a week or two later as we have just received 
the boards from assembly and they need to be tested and packaged in 
manufacturing here.  Also, we are in final testing on the firmware for 
the SVGA.

Eric
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On 2/14/2012 3:07 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham wrote:
> And are we still looking at the P3SVGA shipping late this week or early
> next?
>
> --Ian
>
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA
> km4ik@gmail.com
> K3 #281, P3 #688
>
>
> On 2/14/2012 4:43 PM, KM4VX wrote:
>> Will the P3SVGA be capable of direct connection to a monitor separate from
>> the computer monitor that might be enabled for other uses with the K3?  For
>> my purposes if I am going to use a larger screen (may or may not be useful)
>> I would want it to be  a dedicated monitor that does not interfere with the
>> normal use of the PC and its monitor. Thank you. Ron
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Sam Morgan
confused by all this K3 TX DLY chatter
please answer the following question(s)

my cw operation is with Simi QSK @ 13-25wpm
sometimes with a straight key
but most times using the internal K3 keyer

so are you saying.
I shouldn't run the K3 with my older AL-811 (3 tube)
or I will be transmitting these chopped off cw characters

or would this only happen if I were to use FAST QSK
or is it ok in either Slow or Fast
as long as I stay below about 30wpm

also, if I can use the K3 and AL-811,
in either or both QSK modes,
what TX DLY setting should be used

--
GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan

On 2/15/2012 11:03 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> El cheapo amps
> with open frame relays (like some MFJ/Ameritrons I've seen) are never
> going to follow CW, no matter what is done at the rig.
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[Elecraft] Filter installing question

2012-02-15 Thread DK5EW
TNX all for answering !
So I understand I have to use 2.7KHz for TX and all others for RX only.
Switching RX filters on XFIL between 2.1 and 2.7 KHz

best regards
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[Elecraft] Behavior of P3 Display Upon K3 Memory Recall

2012-02-15 Thread Gary Ferdinand
I should like to suggest that a boundary-condition change be made to the P3
display behavior.The current behavior I view to be a firmware defect.
 
P3 mode settings are:   Fixed Tune mode.  Half Span.
 
Current behavior:  When recalling a frequency from a K3 memory and that
frequency is off the current display of the P3, the P3 sets the cursor (and
therefore frequency) at the left edge of the screen.  This obscures
everything below the memory-recalled frequency.
 
Suggested behavior:  Since the P3 has no idea in which direction tuning will
subsequently occur, the cursor/frequency should be placed in the exact
middle of the P3 display.  In that manner the P3 is useful to both sides of
the memory-recalled frequency.
 
 
My current workaround is to doubly-hit the CENTER(HOLD) key on the P3.  That
is doubly timing sensitive:  Did I hold it long enough to be recognized as a
HOLD?  Did I time the second HOLD closely enough (and long enough) to cause
the cursor to be centered?   This isn't good.   
 
Another workaround is for me to tune the VFO down in frequency some
arbitrarily small amount and then back.   This puts an approximation of the
proper frequency in the center due to the specified Half Span, but only an
approximation, since "Half Span" is relative to wherever I tuned down to.
 
 
I run net operations.  I wish to be on-frequency with a single button push.
I do not wish to use the other mode of tracking, whereby the cursor stays in
the center and the display moves behind it.  My brain does not think that
way.  The displayed band segment (in my mind) should be constant, and it's
the VFO that is varying, not vice-versa.
 
Tnx es 73,
 
Gary W2CS
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

On 2/15/2012 12:06 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:

> I always use PTT foot switch. Even then longer then 8ms setting of TX
> delay affects CW. I do not understand why.

Apparently the K3 applies the TX Delay value to the CW input (key in)
regardless of Key Out status (e.g., is the radio already in transmit)
or VOX/QSK/PTT mode.  However, I have not heard the effect when using
PTT input - only when using QSK - and I can restore normal operation by 
adding "Keying compensation" (a fixed extension of each element) equal
to the TX Delay value in WinKey.

> Thank you everybody for you comments. It looks like external
> sequencer is the only solution. Pity.

I think most would agree that Elecraft should either delay the CW
element or add a fixed compensation equal to the TX Delay (which would
achieve the same result).  "Bit clipping" is a problem, particularly at
higher speeds.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/15/2012 12:06 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> You are correct Rich.
> I always use PTT foot switch. Even then longer then 8ms setting of TX delay
> affects CW. I do not understand why. It is not brake in. It is just switched
> to TX and stays put. Why CW should be affected by this setting?
> My K3 is below 2000 serial number. I have just checked with my friend's
> above 6000 serial unit. It is still the same.  BTW  the internal delay
> between PTT into the radio and KEY OUT signal from the radio is about 6-6.5
> ms.  I assume there is only one relay in between. So if we have two relays
> in series externally or even one relay a bit more powerful (and therefore
> slower then the internal one) we have to use external sequencer. Even most
> popular power vacuum relays here have make time of 12-15 ms which precludes
> their use without external sequencer.
> Thank you everybody for you comments. It looks like external sequencer is
> the only solution. Pity.
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Ferch"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay
>
>
>> I think there's a bit more to it than that, Joe. My recollection, based
>> on my experience in SS CW a couple of years back, is that if CONFIG:TX
>> DLY is set to 20 ms, the K3's CW (with an external keyer) is "choppy"
>> even when using semi-breakin or PTT. I can't be 100% sure whether I was
>> using VOX or PTT, but I know for certain I was not using QSK, and I got
>> reports of "distinctive-sounding" CW, not just a truncated first
>> element. Setting CONFIG:TX DLY to 8 ms appears to have fixed it.
>>
>> 73,
>> Rich VE3KI
>>
>>
>> W4TV wrote:
>>
>>> One solution is to use a keyer like the K1EL WinKey that permits
>>> adding a fixed length to the elements to compensate for the K3's
>>> "bit clipping".  However, the proper solution would be for the K3
>>> to extend each element by the length of TX Delay when in QSK and
>>> extend the initial element by TX Delay when in semi-break in.
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Re: [Elecraft] Filter installing question

2012-02-15 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The Tx filter for SSB, Data, and CW must be 2.7 or 2.8 kHz, so FL2 is right
for your installation for TX SSB and TX CW. 
The 2.1 kHz filter is not used for transmit, just receive.
You should be able to use all your filters for receive, just enable (for
receive) all installed filters for CW, LSB, USB, and DATA.  

My K3 radio doesn't have an FM or AM filter, so I can't transmit in those
modes, but I can receive AM using my 2.8 kHz filter and tuning to one
sideband.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DK5EW
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:14 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Filter installing question

Hi all,
I have a small understanding problem in using filters.

I installed a additional SSB filter 2.1KHz/8pol on row 3. (1. is FM and 2.
is 2.7KHz).
I configured new 2.1KHz filter FL3_BW and set it with number 3 to 2.10,
FL3_Freq to 0.00, FL3_GN to 0db, FL3_ON to YES

_What I do not understand:_
On menu FL_TX_SB is now FL2 so I TX now with FL2(2.7KHz) ? Do I have to
switch there on FL3 to transmit with FL3 (2.1KHz) ?
Can I switch between filters in operating ? Is it then only in RX between
2.1KHz and 2.7KHz filter ?
And TX filter is always that one I configured in FLTX_SB menu ?

Erwin/DK5EW


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Re: [Elecraft] Filter installing question

2012-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Erwin,

You must use the 2.7kHz (or 2.8) filter to transmit SSB (or CW or data) 
- the narrow filters are only for receive.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2012 12:13 PM, DK5EW wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a small understanding problem in using filters.
>
> I installed a additional SSB filter 2.1KHz/8pol on row 3. (1. is FM and
> 2. is 2.7KHz).
> I configured new 2.1KHz filter FL3_BW and set it with number 3 to 2.10,
> FL3_Freq to 0.00, FL3_GN to 0db, FL3_ON to YES
>
> _What I do not understand:_
> On menu FL_TX_SB is now FL2 so I TX now with FL2(2.7KHz) ? Do I have to
> switch there on FL3 to transmit with FL3 (2.1KHz) ?
> Can I switch between filters in operating ? Is it then only in RX
> between 2.1KHz and 2.7KHz filter ?
> And TX filter is always that one I configured in FLTX_SB menu ?
>
> Thanks for reading !
>
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[Elecraft] Items for Sale

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Smith
Doing some shack cleaning, and have the following mostly Elecraft items for 
sale.  All prices include insured USPS Priority Mail shipping to your US 
address.  US sales only, please.   Payment via PayPal.  Can save some $$ with 
combined shipping on purchase of multiple items.  Contact me directly via email 
if interested.

All items are in mint or like-new perfectly operating condition and include all 
original documentation.

Elecraft MH-2 hand mic.  Includes mounting bracket and hardware and original 
box.  Only used once when I first got my K3 to verify that SSB worked!   $ 50

Elecraft BL-2 switchable 1:1  4:1 250W balun  $ 34

Elecraft BL-1 1:1 150W balun  $ 20

Elecraft BL-1 4:1 150W balun  $ 20

Elecraft SL-1 20W dummy load  $ 23

Japan Radio Corporation ST-3 Mono headphones.  These are the perfect phones for 
mono usage on CW and SSB.  VERY comfortable for extended contest use.   These 
are in perfect condition.  5 ft cord terminated with ¼ inch mono phone plug.  
Rated at 600 ohms impedance.  Measure 82 ohms at DC.  These work very well with 
any of the Elecraft rigs if you don't need stereo audio.   I bought these new 
from Universal Radio 6 years ago and they have since been discontinued.  If I 
wasn't into diversity reception, I'd still be using them!  Shipped in original 
box.   $ 83


73  Craig AC0DS

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[Elecraft] Filter installing question

2012-02-15 Thread DK5EW
Hi all,
I have a small understanding problem in using filters.

I installed a additional SSB filter 2.1KHz/8pol on row 3. (1. is FM and 
2. is 2.7KHz).
I configured new 2.1KHz filter FL3_BW and set it with number 3 to 2.10, 
FL3_Freq to 0.00, FL3_GN to 0db, FL3_ON to YES

_What I do not understand:_
On menu FL_TX_SB is now FL2 so I TX now with FL2(2.7KHz) ? Do I have to 
switch there on FL3 to transmit with FL3 (2.1KHz) ?
Can I switch between filters in operating ? Is it then only in RX 
between 2.1KHz and 2.7KHz filter ?
And TX filter is always that one I configured in FLTX_SB menu ?

Thanks for reading !

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Igor Sokolov
You are correct Rich.
I always use PTT foot switch. Even then longer then 8ms setting of TX delay 
affects CW. I do not understand why. It is not brake in. It is just switched 
to TX and stays put. Why CW should be affected by this setting?
My K3 is below 2000 serial number. I have just checked with my friend's 
above 6000 serial unit. It is still the same.  BTW  the internal delay 
between PTT into the radio and KEY OUT signal from the radio is about 6-6.5 
ms.  I assume there is only one relay in between. So if we have two relays 
in series externally or even one relay a bit more powerful (and therefore 
slower then the internal one) we have to use external sequencer. Even most 
popular power vacuum relays here have make time of 12-15 ms which precludes 
their use without external sequencer.
Thank you everybody for you comments. It looks like external sequencer is 
the only solution. Pity.

73, Igor UA9CDC


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From: "Richard Ferch" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay


>I think there's a bit more to it than that, Joe. My recollection, based
> on my experience in SS CW a couple of years back, is that if CONFIG:TX
> DLY is set to 20 ms, the K3's CW (with an external keyer) is "choppy"
> even when using semi-breakin or PTT. I can't be 100% sure whether I was
> using VOX or PTT, but I know for certain I was not using QSK, and I got
> reports of "distinctive-sounding" CW, not just a truncated first
> element. Setting CONFIG:TX DLY to 8 ms appears to have fixed it.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
>
> W4TV wrote:
>
>> One solution is to use a keyer like the K1EL WinKey that permits
>> adding a fixed length to the elements to compensate for the K3's
>> "bit clipping".  However, the proper solution would be for the K3
>> to extend each element by the length of TX Delay when in QSK and
>> extend the initial element by TX Delay when in semi-break in.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/15/2012 8:39 AM, briana wrote:
> On older amps that could be 15ms or more.

The issue is not OLDER amps, it is poorly designed amps (or el cheapo 
amps).  My Ten Tec Titan 425s, which were designed in the late 70s and 
built in the early 80s, were designed for QSK, and key reliably at 
8msec. They use good vacuum relays (the same used by Alpha) and smart 
control circuitry to positively prevent hot switching.  El cheapo amps 
with open frame relays (like some MFJ/Ameritrons I've seen) are never 
going to follow CW, no matter what is done at the rig.

Now, there ARE techniques that can be used to speed up a slow relay.  
Quite a few years ago, K6XX, a top contester and superb EE who now works 
for Elecraft, designed a simple circuit that adds a short, higher 
voltage spike to the keying signal, and causes the relay to pull in a 
bit faster. This circuit must be added to the amp.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/15/2012 8:24 AM, briana wrote:
> The fix has to be within the K3.

It all depends on exactly what problem you're trying to fix, and how bad 
the problem is.  Think about it -- a T/R relay has delays associated 
both with pulling in AND dropping out. Granted they may be different 
delays. These delays set a practical limit on how fast the amp is able 
to work on CW, no matter what is done in the exciter to delay keying.

BUT -- there is an important difference between delaying the ONSET of CW 
after PTT is asserted, which seems to be what the K3 is doing, and 
delaying the entire CW signal, which is what is needed to avoid 
shortening the keying elements at higher speeds. There would still be a 
limit on keying speed corresponding to how fast the T/R relay can 
switch, but that limit could be raised to a higher speed.

Put me on the list of those who urge Elecraft to attempt the latter, 
with the requirement that the delay be applied both to the internal 
keyer and to keying via the straight key input (where computer-generated 
keying is applied). I suspect that the limitation is either DSP cycles 
or RAM, or both, and these limitations were set at the original 
design.stage.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread briana
rick,
I can't tell you what's wrong but I cqn give you the symptoms.  This was 
several years ago.

The story goes as follows.  One day I sat down at the K3 for a CW 
session.   Unlike past sessions, at 25wpm and above the was erratic 
timing of the characters.  I thought it was my keyer.  Plugged keyer 
into other rig and no keying was OK.  So I tried using the K3 internal 
keyer, same QSD.This was independent of semi or full break in.No 
amp was in line at this time.

A post to the Elecraft reflector suggested looking the the value of 
TXDLY.   I though that crazy since it had been set by me forever at 
8ms.   Sure enough it was at 20 ms (how I don't know).  Returning the 
value to 8ms solved it.

Amplifiers only enter the picture if you don't want them to hot switch.  
That means delaying the RF until the amp relay switches.  On older amps 
that could be 15ms or more.   Thus one wants the TXDLY to be 15 ms or more.
There are a lot of amps out there like this still.   The suggestion to 
convert them to QSK means an expenditure of about $400,  requires 
gutting parts of the amp and is probably amp specific.

Now we have a problem, you might achieve the TXDLY in the K3 but you 
can't send good CW.

This is not the case for other rigs.   For example, Kenwoods work just 
fine at 20 ms and my old MP worked fine at some value in that ball park.

You have to ask Elecraft for an explanation.

This is a years' old problem that still continues.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 2/15/2012 10:06 AM, Rick Stealey wrote:
>
>
>> Alternatively buy any Kenwood, Yaesu et al which has this figured out.
>> This has been a long standing problem with the K3.
>>  
> Brian,
> Could you please explain what you think is deficient in the K3?
> You close the key, the KEY OUT line activates, the K3 waits 8 ms (minimum, 
> adjustable up to 20 ms)
> and then the cw character begins.  The 8-20 ms is to give the amplifier time 
> to close its relays so it isn't
> damaged.  On key up the rf ends before the KEY OUT line drops so the 
> amplifier can't switch
> while it is outputting, unlike ICOM rigs.
> What is it the K3 should do differently?
>
> Rick  K2XT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread briana
The proper solution is NOT WINKEY.  The QSD occurs with an external 
keyer as well as internal keyer.

The fix has to be within the K3.

73 DE Brian/K3KO

On 2/15/2012 10:30 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> Rick,
>
>
>> So the concern is with amps that switch in, let's say 30 ms, for
>> example? You mean the 20 ms setting is still too fast for those
>> amps?
>>  
> No, the problem is with straight key or an external keyer.  TX
> Delay delays the onset of RF by the correct 8 - 20 ms but it does
> not also delay the entire incoming CW so the elements get truncated.
> This may not be an issue for those who are not using QSK but with
> QSK the CW elements are truncated.
>
> One solution is to use a keyer like the K1EL WinKey that permits
> adding a fixed length to the elements to compensate for the K3's
> "bit clipping".  However, the proper solution would be for the K3
> to extend each element by the length of TX Delay when in QSK and
> extend the initial element by TX Delay when in semi-break in.
>
> 73,
>
>  ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2/15/2012 10:08 AM, Rick Stealey wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  
>>> I suspect that as far as Wayne and Eric are concerned, any amplifier that 
>>> doesn't handle qsk is broken, so the K3 doesn't need fixed.
>>>
>>> Matthew Pitts
>>>
>> Matt,
>> So the concern is with amps that switch in, let's say 30 ms, for example?
>> You mean the 20 ms setting is still too fast for those amps?
>>
>> Rick  K2XT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Rich,

Since I don't use an amplifier, I can't say for sure.  However, TX
Delay should only be applied to the first element in semi-break in
(VOX) or PTT (and with PTT, TX Delay should be triggered by PTT not
Key In).

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/15/2012 11:04 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:
> I think there's a bit more to it than that, Joe. My recollection, based
> on my experience in SS CW a couple of years back, is that if CONFIG:TX
> DLY is set to 20 ms, the K3's CW (with an external keyer) is "choppy"
> even when using semi-breakin or PTT. I can't be 100% sure whether I was
> using VOX or PTT, but I know for certain I was not using QSK, and I got
> reports of "distinctive-sounding" CW, not just a truncated first
> element. Setting CONFIG:TX DLY to 8 ms appears to have fixed it.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
>
> W4TV wrote:
>
>> One solution is to use a keyer like the K1EL WinKey that permits
>> adding a fixed length to the elements to compensate for the K3's
>> "bit clipping".  However, the proper solution would be for the K3
>> to extend each element by the length of TX Delay when in QSK and
>> extend the initial element by TX Delay when in semi-break in.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Owners manual translated in Italian

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Schieler
Thanks Carlo.  That's a monumental accomplishment.  Unfortunately, it's missing 
the appendix to teach me to read and write Italian.  ;o)

Terry, W0FM

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From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Owners manual translated in Italian

Grazie, Carlo! Sono sicuro che questo è stato uno sforzo enorme.

Wayne
N6KR


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> The K3 owners manual is available translated in Italian language,  
> following
> exactly the page numbering of the original.
> All the details here:
> http://www.carlobianconi.com/it/component/content/article/54-articolo-in-evidenza-2.html
>
> All the best
> Carlo IK4ISQ





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Richard Ferch
I think there's a bit more to it than that, Joe. My recollection, based 
on my experience in SS CW a couple of years back, is that if CONFIG:TX 
DLY is set to 20 ms, the K3's CW (with an external keyer) is "choppy" 
even when using semi-breakin or PTT. I can't be 100% sure whether I was 
using VOX or PTT, but I know for certain I was not using QSK, and I got 
reports of "distinctive-sounding" CW, not just a truncated first 
element. Setting CONFIG:TX DLY to 8 ms appears to have fixed it.

73,
Rich VE3KI


W4TV wrote:

> One solution is to use a keyer like the K1EL WinKey that permits
> adding a fixed length to the elements to compensate for the K3's
> "bit clipping".  However, the proper solution would be for the K3
> to extend each element by the length of TX Delay when in QSK and
> extend the initial element by TX Delay when in semi-break in.
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Re: [Elecraft] kpa500 builders

2012-02-15 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
In the 1950's I was an operator of an AN/GRC-26 portable radio system in the
U.S. Army. It ran phone (A.M.), digital (RTTY) and CW. The transmitter was a
BC-610 which I believe was the successor of the HT-4 transmitter shown here.


The whole "portable" system was built into a hut that was mounted on 2-1/2
ton 10-wheel truck pulling a 1-ton motor generator on a trailer behind it.

Had some real adventures climbing mountains off-road with that rig, but it
had two huge advantages over today's "pocket-portables" - we could stay
inside the hut out of the weather and it had a coffee pot. 

The Ham activity on the film has one huge missing bit: no heterodynes! When
two A.M. stations are close enough to the same frequency to hear the audio,
you also hear a loud tone whose frequency is the difference between the two
carrier frequencies. Often on a crowded band like 20 meters you might hear
three or four of these heterodynes blasting away on top of the audio of the
station you are trying to hear. Unlike today's rigs, most "phone" receivers
of the 40's and 50's had a 6 to 10 kHz bandwidth! 

In the early days of SSB, that lack of heterodynes was the most common
reason cited by Hams for leaving AM for SSB. Power efficiency, denser band
occupation, and the like were secondary reasons, at best.  

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] K3 For sale

2012-02-15 Thread JOHN15
Mint K3/100 WITH KXV3A for sale. Please contact off forum.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Rick,

> So the concern is with amps that switch in, let's say 30 ms, for
> example? You mean the 20 ms setting is still too fast for those
> amps?

No, the problem is with straight key or an external keyer.  TX
Delay delays the onset of RF by the correct 8 - 20 ms but it does
not also delay the entire incoming CW so the elements get truncated.
This may not be an issue for those who are not using QSK but with
QSK the CW elements are truncated.

One solution is to use a keyer like the K1EL WinKey that permits
adding a fixed length to the elements to compensate for the K3's
"bit clipping".  However, the proper solution would be for the K3
to extend each element by the length of TX Delay when in QSK and
extend the initial element by TX Delay when in semi-break in.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/15/2012 10:08 AM, Rick Stealey wrote:
>
>
>
>> I suspect that as far as Wayne and Eric are concerned, any amplifier that 
>> doesn't handle qsk is broken, so the K3 doesn't need fixed.
>>
>> Matthew Pitts
>
> Matt,
> So the concern is with amps that switch in, let's say 30 ms, for example?
> You mean the 20 ms setting is still too fast for those amps?
>
> Rick  K2XT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Vic, K2VCO
I think you are confusing two things.

The hold time after RF output before receive can be as long as you want. 
The time between key down and RF output in the K3 can be from 8 ms to 
about 14 ms before keying is affected. It goes up to 20 ms, but at this 
point, the keyed elements are shortened. Most radios do not allow 
adjustment to this delay at all. Some (ICOM) radios actually drop the 
amp key output before RF output ends!

I agree with Don that for fast CW QSK the amplifier should be capable of 
switching in about 5 ms. This is not hard to achieve, but you can't do 
it with cheap open-frame relays. The original SB-220 doesn't represent 
the state of the art anymore.

For special situations like mast-mounted preamps, etc. you may need a 
sequencer. This won't provide QSK but will ensure that everything 
changes over properly. I don't think the K3 is in any way lacking as far 
as QSK sequencing is concerned.

On 2/15/12 6:23 AM, briana wrote:
> Alternatively buy any Kenwood, Yeasu et al which has this figured out.
> This has been a long standing problem with the K3.
>
> I'd like to hear from Elecraft that it "can't be fixed".
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
> On 2/15/2012 9:07 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Igor,
>>
>> Yes, longer T-R delay times can chop off the leading edge of CW elements.
>> The proper answer is to add QSK capability to the amplifier.
>> If that is not possible or desirable, you may have to use a PTT footswitch.
>>
>> If the amplifier is not capable of QSK operation at the keying speeds
>> you use, there is not much that can be done in the K3 to compensate for
>> the amplifier inadequacy.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>
>> On 2/15/2012 7:21 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if there are plans to properly implement programmable TX delay in
>>> K3 in the near future.
>>> Current implementation works only with 8 ms delay. Attempts to increase this
>>> setting to max 20 ms ruin CW timing especially at high  CW speed.
>>> Unfortunately 8 ms is too short for many of power amps, let alone other
>>> external switching (stack control, external TX/RX switches etc) Separate
>>> sequencer is obvious answer but carry additional box is not in line with my
>>> purpose of light weight contest or  dx peditions. Is there any other
>>> solution?
>>>
>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Radio Control via HamLog on iPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Steve_wGOAT
Hello Poul-Erik, It is my understanding that Nick's PigTail device is simply 
the interface control device between your iPad/iPhone (or tabletPC/Android) via 
WiFi and your radio (K3/KX3) via serial cable. The PigTail just uses WiFi to 
communicate with your iPad/iPhone instead of Bluetooth, USB or serial cable. No 
WiFi router or network is required. The PigTail device talks directly to your 
rig via the serial cable and then your iPad via WiFi. In my case I'll be using 
it in the backcountry far from any network! ...Hope this helps!

73, Steve/wGOAT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Rick Stealey



> I suspect that as far as Wayne and Eric are concerned, any amplifier that 
> doesn't handle qsk is broken, so the K3 doesn't need fixed.
> 
> Matthew Pitts

Matt, 
So the concern is with amps that switch in, let's say 30 ms, for example?  
You mean the 20 ms setting is still too fast for those amps?

Rick  K2XT

  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread John Ragle
110% agreement. If you want a voice-only machine, just look for "semi 
break-in" in the specs. (You could also look for "AM only.") Don's 
comment about the merit of trying to fix a broken amplifier by modifying 
the K3 is right on target. How about a big knife switch on the wall?

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Rick Stealey


> 
> Alternatively buy any Kenwood, Yaesu et al which has this figured out.
> This has been a long standing problem with the K3.

Brian,
Could you please explain what you think is deficient in the K3?
You close the key, the KEY OUT line activates, the K3 waits 8 ms (minimum, 
adjustable up to 20 ms)
and then the cw character begins.  The 8-20 ms is to give the amplifier time to 
close its relays so it isn't
damaged.  On key up the rf ends before the KEY OUT line drops so the amplifier 
can't switch
while it is outputting, unlike ICOM rigs.  
What is it the K3 should do differently?

Rick  K2XT

  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Jack Berry
I'd like to hear that it CAN be fixed. That would be better. 

On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:23 AM, briana  wrote:

> Alternatively buy any Kenwood, Yeasu et al which has this figured out.
> This has been a long standing problem with the K3.
> 
> I'd like to hear from Elecraft that it "can't be fixed".
> 
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
> 
> On 2/15/2012 9:07 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Igor,
>> 
>> Yes, longer T-R delay times can chop off the leading edge of CW elements.
>> The proper answer is to add QSK capability to the amplifier.
>> If that is not possible or desirable, you may have to use a PTT footswitch.
>> 
>> If the amplifier is not capable of QSK operation at the keying speeds
>> you use, there is not much that can be done in the K3 to compensate for
>> the amplifier inadequacy.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/15/2012 7:21 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if there are plans to properly implement programmable TX delay in
>>> K3 in the near future.
>>> Current implementation works only with 8 ms delay. Attempts to increase this
>>> setting to max 20 ms ruin CW timing especially at high  CW speed.
>>> Unfortunately 8 ms is too short for many of power amps, let alone other
>>> external switching (stack control, external TX/RX switches etc) Separate
>>> sequencer is obvious answer but carry additional box is not in line with my
>>> purpose of light weight contest or  dx peditions. Is there any other
>>> solution?
>>> 
>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Matthew Pitts
I suspect that as far as Wayne and Eric are concerned, any amplifier that 
doesn't handle qsk is broken, so the K3 doesn't need fixed.

Matthew Pitts
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread briana
Alternatively buy any Kenwood, Yeasu et al which has this figured out.
This has been a long standing problem with the K3.

I'd like to hear from Elecraft that it "can't be fixed".

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 2/15/2012 9:07 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Igor,
>
> Yes, longer T-R delay times can chop off the leading edge of CW elements.
> The proper answer is to add QSK capability to the amplifier.
> If that is not possible or desirable, you may have to use a PTT footswitch.
>
> If the amplifier is not capable of QSK operation at the keying speeds
> you use, there is not much that can be done in the K3 to compensate for
> the amplifier inadequacy.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 2/15/2012 7:21 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>
>> I wonder if there are plans to properly implement programmable TX delay in
>> K3 in the near future.
>> Current implementation works only with 8 ms delay. Attempts to increase this
>> setting to max 20 ms ruin CW timing especially at high  CW speed.
>> Unfortunately 8 ms is too short for many of power amps, let alone other
>> external switching (stack control, external TX/RX switches etc) Separate
>> sequencer is obvious answer but carry additional box is not in line with my
>> purpose of light weight contest or  dx peditions. Is there any other
>> solution?
>>
>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Igor,

Yes, longer T-R delay times can chop off the leading edge of CW elements.
The proper answer is to add QSK capability to the amplifier.
If that is not possible or desirable, you may have to use a PTT footswitch.

If the amplifier is not capable of QSK operation at the keying speeds 
you use, there is not much that can be done in the K3 to compensate for 
the amplifier inadequacy.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 2/15/2012 7:21 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> I wonder if there are plans to properly implement programmable TX delay in
> K3 in the near future.
> Current implementation works only with 8 ms delay. Attempts to increase this
> setting to max 20 ms ruin CW timing especially at high  CW speed.
> Unfortunately 8 ms is too short for many of power amps, let alone other
> external switching (stack control, external TX/RX switches etc) Separate
> sequencer is obvious answer but carry additional box is not in line with my
> purpose of light weight contest or  dx peditions. Is there any other
> solution?
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
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[Elecraft] K3 TX delay

2012-02-15 Thread Igor Sokolov
I wonder if there are plans to properly implement programmable TX delay in 
K3 in the near future.
Current implementation works only with 8 ms delay. Attempts to increase this 
setting to max 20 ms ruin CW timing especially at high  CW speed.
Unfortunately 8 ms is too short for many of power amps, let alone other 
external switching (stack control, external TX/RX switches etc) Separate 
sequencer is obvious answer but carry additional box is not in line with my 
purpose of light weight contest or  dx peditions. Is there any other 
solution?

73, Igor UA9CDC 

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[Elecraft] Power Level for Voice Modes

2012-02-15 Thread Don Etters
On page 28 in the Manual there is instructions for (voice transmit gain ) is 
this benefical to do and does it make a differnce in the voice power ?

Don 
W4DEE
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Radio Control via HamLog on iPhone

2012-02-15 Thread PKA
Hi Nick
I just saw your demo video and found it very interesting. I am wondering what 
is in the pigtail box, and whether what you are asking for is what interest 
there is in such a unit. 
It is quite interesting since it would make remote control  of your K3 not 
depending on a PC or laptop in the shack. So you can definitely count me as one 
who is keenly interested.

I have used HRD and worked thousands of remote controlled CW QSOs now for over 
5 years. I started using HRD in server/client mode. But since I am purely using 
CW and since the HRD server/client serial connection is very sensitive and 
keeps dropping out, I soon gave that up and started using HRD via remote 
desktop. This in combination with using Logmein for remote access has worked 
well for me for several years - and I still use it.

Recently I have tried KS7D Mike's K3iNetwork app. for iPhone with the SServer 
running on the shack PC. It still has a few bugs (connection may drop while the 
server still thinks its OK, so you need to reset SServer, also sending macro 
commands to the K3 means that the K3iNetwork app. needs restart and a few other 
inconveniencies). But it certainly works fine and I have made a lot of QSOs 
with iPhone over 3G network to the SServer/K3 (even worked HK0NA that way!)

I still do not fully understand how your set up would be. Is it correct, that I 
need 1) to run hamlog on a portable device (PC or iPhone) and 2) connect via 
internet to the wireless router in shack. How then is the connection in the 
shack from the wireless router with the pigtail to the K3? The pigtail box 
connects directly to the wireless router?

Sorry if my questions are silly!

Vy 73 and maybe cu on air remote to remote on CW Nick!
OZ4UN / Poul-Erik



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Fra: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] 
På vegne af Nick Garner
Sendt: 14. februar 2012 23:56
Til: Elecraft Reflector
Emne: [Elecraft] [OT] Radio Control via HamLog on iPhone

Hello Everyone,
Over the years that HamLog (http://goo.gl/BMFzM) has been available on the 
various mobile platforms out there, I've had several users ask me for a way to 
get radio information into the app automatically, both at home and/or out in 
the field, portable, dxpeditions, etc.  In the past few weeks I've put 
something together that allows HamLog to talk to radios for both command & 
control and state retrieval.  Below is a link to a demo of it working with an 
iPad and a K3.  The video should answer a lot of the questions you might have.  
This is all entirely beta at the moment so it might not look like this in the 
first release.

Demo Video (about 9 minutes):
http://goo.gl/N8JK7

Take a look and let me know what you think!  If you're interested in having 
one, please visit the following URL and enter your call sign and email address. 
 There is no obligation and I'm not asking for any type of deposit; I just need 
to gauge the demand for the initial run.

Interest Registration:
http://pignology.net/ptainterest

I envision a KX3 stashed in a backpack (HF Pack style) being fully controlled 
by an iOS/Android device while walking down the trail, all the while logging 
the contacts you're making.

73,
Nick
N3WG/6

P.S. You might see this email cross-posted on some of the various portable/QRP 
interest groups out there, please excuse the duplication.
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[Elecraft] K3/100 ERR12V repair information

2012-02-15 Thread Malcolm

For those of you who want to solder the  crimped Faston terminals you will find 
it difficult to push the covers back up the lead to allow you to do the 
soldering.  Using a hot air gun on the terminals, as if you were applying heat 
shrink, will expand the insulation enough to let you push the insulator off the 
Faston terminal by gripping the metal through the open end with a pair of fine 
nosed pliers.

Once you have soldered the terminal the cover can be slid back and has enough 
grip still to remain in place.  Excessive amounts of solder on the terminal 
will prevent the cover going back on properly so keep the solder to a minimum.

Regards

Malcolm
G0MIC   

 
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