Re: [Elecraft] K3 power instability issues

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Hi Arliss: 

Elecraft has always accepted posts on any subject of interest to Hams but,
as the membership has grown list moderator Eric has requested that messages
not about a specific Elecraft issue be limited. He usually steps in after a
dozen or so posts but, as one of the founders of Elecraft, he sometimes gets
distracted by his "regular job" (usually just when the list gets a juicy
subject to jaw about ad infinitum). 

It helps setting up e-mail filters if one puts the model of the Elecraft rig
in the subject. That way those who have no interest in a particular piece of
gear can bulk-delete or filter those messages out and sort the rest. But no
matter how often Eric suggests it, it's often forgotten.

For posts about something other than an Elecraft product, most use "OT" for
"Other Topic". 

73 Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Not to be a whiner, but ...

I signed up to the Elecraft reflector looking for some assistance in
troubleshooting my K3.  I'm continuing to work on the problem, with
assistance from Elecraft support.  I also received a number of suggestions
from subscribers to the reflector -- thanks!

However, by my count more than 1/2 of the previous 90+ posts have been about
contesting or debating whether ham radio is a sport.  Not quite what I had
in mind when I signed up to the reflector.  True, there is the delete key,
but there comes a point when the signal to noise ratio just gets too low and
it's time to move on.  I think I've reached that point.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

73,  Arliss  W7XU

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[Elecraft] [K3] and RUMped

[Bill Frantz]

I was playing around with RUMped -- a Macintosh contest logger 
from DL2RUM -- and got it to send CW via the RS-232 command 
channel to the K3. At least I could control the CW speed with 
the K3 speed control so the K3 must have been generating the CW.


When I finished, I noticed that a macro I had defined on the M1 
button was no longer there -- I just got "DVR not inst". I 
decided that reloading the last saved configuration was in 
order, but the K3 utility could not connect to the K3 and the P3 
utility couldn't connect to the P3. I rebooted the Macintosh and 
the utilities both started working. Restoring the saved 
configuration recovered my macro, and everything is working again.


Has anyone else noticed similar problems with RUMped?

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power instability issues

[Gary Gregory]

-
:'(

Aw shucks folksit was a slow news day heregrin

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 22/03/2013 1:50 PM,  wrote:

> dont worry they will start talking about the best mike to use with the K3
> odd lot
>
> Bob K3DJC
>
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:32:41 -0400 (EDT) w...@iw.net writes:
> > Not to be a whiner, but ...
> >
> > I signed up to the Elecraft reflector looking for some
> > assistance in troubleshooting my K3.  I'm continuing to
> > work on the problem, with assistance from Elecraft
> > support.  I also received a number of suggestions from
> > subscribers to the reflector -- thanks!
> >
> > However, by my count more than 1/2 of the previous 90+
> > posts have been about contesting or debating whether ham
> > radio is a sport.  Not quite what I had in mind when I
> > signed up to the reflector.  True, there is the delete
> > key, but there comes a point when the signal to noise
> > ratio just gets too low and it's time to move on.  I
> > think I've reached that point.
> >
> > Thanks again for everyone's help.
> >
> > 73,  Arliss  W7XU
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power instability issues

[riese-k3djc]

dont worry they will start talking about the best mike to use with the K3
odd lot

Bob K3DJC

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:32:41 -0400 (EDT) w...@iw.net writes:
> Not to be a whiner, but ...
> 
> I signed up to the Elecraft reflector looking for some
> assistance in troubleshooting my K3.  I'm continuing to
> work on the problem, with assistance from Elecraft 
> support.  I also received a number of suggestions from
> subscribers to the reflector -- thanks!
> 
> However, by my count more than 1/2 of the previous 90+
> posts have been about contesting or debating whether ham
> radio is a sport.  Not quite what I had in mind when I
> signed up to the reflector.  True, there is the delete
> key, but there comes a point when the signal to noise
> ratio just gets too low and it's time to move on.  I
> think I've reached that point.
> 
> Thanks again for everyone's help.
> 
> 73,  Arliss  W7XU
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[Gary Gregory]

Don

As we get more mature (read old) we are supposed to slow downnot yearn
for "the need for speed" as mentioned in long ago movie:-)
73

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 22/03/2013 1:39 PM, "Don Wilhelm"  wrote:

> Rich,
>
> If you "press the pedal to the metal" a little bit more, that Edsel will
> easily go up to 80 mph and run rings around those 'speed demons'.  That is
> if you can afford the gasoline it takes to do that.  The Edsel was created
> in the era of 'muscle cars' and had an engine to match, so it can hold its
> own in the competition.  It may not be as nimble as some of today's cars,
> but it is superior in terms of raw horsepower.
>
> I long for a replacement for my 1989 Mazda MX6 turbo, but it died after
> 300,000 miles - the replacement 2008 Mazda3 handles almost as well, but
> lacks that turbo boost which made the MX6 a really "fun to drive" vehicle -
> it was really a Zoom-Zoom car.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 3/21/2013 10:49 PM, Rich wrote:
>
>> Sure do love driving my Edsel.  Wish there was a lane on the freeway that
>> was left empty so I could take nice weekend drives without all those young
>> speed demons racing along at 70 mph.
>>
>> 
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[Don Wilhelm]

Rich,

If you "press the pedal to the metal" a little bit more, that Edsel will 
easily go up to 80 mph and run rings around those 'speed demons'.  That 
is if you can afford the gasoline it takes to do that.  The Edsel was 
created in the era of 'muscle cars' and had an engine to match, so it 
can hold its own in the competition.  It may not be as nimble as some of 
today's cars, but it is superior in terms of raw horsepower.


I long for a replacement for my 1989 Mazda MX6 turbo, but it died after 
300,000 miles - the replacement 2008 Mazda3 handles almost as well, but 
lacks that turbo boost which made the MX6 a really "fun to drive" 
vehicle - it was really a Zoom-Zoom car.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/21/2013 10:49 PM, Rich wrote:
Sure do love driving my Edsel.  Wish there was a lane on the freeway 
that was left empty so I could take nice weekend drives without all 
those young speed demons racing along at 70 mph.





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[Elecraft] K3 power instability issues

[w7xu]

Not to be a whiner, but ...

I signed up to the Elecraft reflector looking for some
assistance in troubleshooting my K3.  I'm continuing to
work on the problem, with assistance from Elecraft 
support.  I also received a number of suggestions from
subscribers to the reflector -- thanks!

However, by my count more than 1/2 of the previous 90+
posts have been about contesting or debating whether ham
radio is a sport.  Not quite what I had in mind when I
signed up to the reflector.  True, there is the delete
key, but there comes a point when the signal to noise
ratio just gets too low and it's time to move on.  I
think I've reached that point.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

73,  Arliss  W7XU
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[Rich]

Sure do love driving my Edsel.  Wish there was a lane on the freeway 
that was left empty so I could take nice weekend drives without all 
those young speed demons racing along at 70 mph.




Rich
NU6T

On 3/21/2013 6:55 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Quite true that the WARC bands are "contest free" but many of those who
avoid contests are also those who love using old "boat anchor" gear that
does not cover those bands.

Since wall-to-wall almost-every-weekend contesting is something that evolved
over the last few decades, they quite reasonably ask why contesting isn't
limited to band segments or to the WARC bands, leaving the Ham bands they
have enjoyed for longer than many of us have been alive free of the QRM.

Of course, only a few of those who operate boat anchors are likely to be
here on the Elecraft reflector, but this O.T. has had the privilege of
knowing many of them.

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dbellw...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:23 PM
To: k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

The contest free zones are called the WARC bands, and the KX3 operates well
on all of them.
  
73, Dave
  



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 sidetone problem

[Don Wilhelm]

David,

I would rather think that you have a problem with the T/R switch and the 
transmit signal is getting into the receiver.


But then, the receiver *should* be muted when in transmit, so check the 
muting circuit as well.
Q10 should provide a short circuit between the balanced input pins of U3 
during transmit.  The 2N7000 FETs are easily damaged by static during 
installation, and if Q10 is not fully conducting during transmit, you 
may hear a bit of the transmitted signal as well as the sidetone.


For checks on the muting circuit, first check the voltage at the gate of 
Q10 during transmit, it should be near 6 volts.  That is more than 
sufficient for Q10 to conduct fully.  If that condition is true, then as 
a test, solder a wire between pins 2 and 3 of U3.  If the problem goes 
away, then Q10 is not doing its job - replace it. Note: there will be no 
receive with that test wire in place.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/21/2013 8:57 PM, David L DuPuy wrote:

Has anyone else had any problems with the sidetone on the K1?  I've just
finished building and at low power (0.5 watts) I have heavy key clicks when
sending.  At higher outputs, I'm getting a dual tone with heavy clicks,
sounds like RF is getting into the audio.  The problem is worse on 20m, but
it's a big problem on 40m too.  Any ideas on where to look for a problem?
  The transceiver appears to be working normally otherwise.  thanks, David



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Re: [Elecraft] K1: C67 Interferes With Mounting KNB1

[Don Wilhelm]

Your "fix" for the too large C67 is likely OK.  I have not yet 
encountered that situation.


However, I offer a caution about the flux 'wash' you mentioned.  I trust 
you do not mean to flood the board with flux remover  I have attempted 
repairs on too many radios that have been "flux washed" improperly
In some cases, flux residue has been washed under the connectors and ICs 
and the only fix is to remove the components and further clean both the 
component and the board.  It makes one great mess and can result in a 
malfunctioning radio.  Even after such repairs, I 'cross my fingers' and 
hope the fault conditions do not reappear.


For what it is worth, HP does flux cleaning of production boards, but I 
understand from reliable sources that those boards that end up at rework 
stations are *not* to be cleaned of flux.  There must be a good reason 
for that procedural directive.


Solder flux is non-conductive - as long as no effort has been made to 
clean the flux.
The combination of flux and flux cleaners can leave conductive paths 
that will react later to moisture in the air and cause malfunctions.


If you *must* clean flux, do it in small areas at a time using the 
cleaner (denatured alcohol works) applied with a cotton swab (Q-tip) and 
cleaned up with a paper towel piece immediately - repeat until all the 
flux is gone.  Do not "wash" or "flood" the board or disaster may occur.


If you switch from solder with a Highly Reactive flux (Kester 44 for 
example) to a solder with a Mildly Reactive flux, no cleaning is 
nesessary (there is very little flux residue).  Kester 285 is one 
example and the Kester 'No Clean' is even better.  Save the Kester 44 
for work on antennas and old components which have substantial oxidation 
on the leads.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/21/2013 9:15 PM, Phil Barnes-Roberts WA6DZS wrote:

Just finishing up a build for Tony, KE6JZF of a K1/KFL1-4/KAT1/KNB1
(#3195), and have found that the 2.2uF-50V electrolytic cap C67 (where
25V is called out in the Parts List) may be a bit too tall.

It doesn't seem to bother at C31, C54, or C10 on the NB board (all
50V).  When it came time to bolt the NB to the RF board, C67 was in the
way.  After trying to gently re-wet the leads and lean it over U2, I
wound up wrapping a little wire around the (too-short) leads and
mounting it on its side under the board (which seems to fit OK.)

Anybody seen a better fix for this physical interference fit?  Final
flux wash is the next step, unless I hear better news.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Michael Adams]

The "put the K3 in TEST mode" has the additional advantage of requiring no
additional work for someone who just turns the VOX off when not actively
using the powered-up radio.  Just push-and-hold a different button.

-- 
*Michael D. Adams* (N1EN)
Poquonock, Connecticut | m...@n1en.org


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Sam,
>
> Could I offer a suggestion?  Hold the right side of the mode button to put
> the K3 into TX TEST to prevent any RF from going out if the K3 is falsely
> triggered into transmit.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Quite true that the WARC bands are "contest free" but many of those who
avoid contests are also those who love using old "boat anchor" gear that
does not cover those bands.

Since wall-to-wall almost-every-weekend contesting is something that evolved
over the last few decades, they quite reasonably ask why contesting isn't
limited to band segments or to the WARC bands, leaving the Ham bands they
have enjoyed for longer than many of us have been alive free of the QRM. 

Of course, only a few of those who operate boat anchors are likely to be
here on the Elecraft reflector, but this O.T. has had the privilege of
knowing many of them. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dbellw...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:23 PM
To: k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

The contest free zones are called the WARC bands, and the KX3 operates well
on all of them.
 
73, Dave
 


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[Elecraft] K3 reduced-bandwidth RTTY analysis

[Ed Muns]

>From the RTTY reflector, the short article by K0SM in the link below may be
of interest to K3 users.With this enhanced FSK filtering, the K3 has a
significantly narrower FSK bandwidth than any other FSK radio that I'm aware
of.  Hopefully, other manufacturers will follow suit.

The Beta DSP 281 firmware will be released to production soon.  Meanwhile,
if anyone is interested in trying it, let me know and I'll email it to you.

Ed W0YK

 

> -Original Message-
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> aflow...@frontiernet.net
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:16 PM
> To: RTTY Mailing List
> Subject: [RTTY] K3 reduced-bandwidth RTTY analysis
> 
> Hello again,
>  
> I have finally gotten around to finishing up a short analysis of the 
> reduced-bandwidth FSK keying in the K3.  As many of you are aware, 
> Elecraft made some beta firmware available several weeks ago that 
> attempts to reduce the clicks that result for unshaped keying.  They 
> analysis involves a before and after pictures comparing the FSK 
> spectra from the general release firmware (representative of most 
> radios, to the best of my limited knowledge) and the bandwidth-reduced 
> firmware.
> I've also included some analysis using a 300 Hz "roofing filter" to 
> measure the noise floor at different dial offsets from the transmitter 
> to give and idea of what it "feels" like when it is QRM.  There are a 
> few people who operated WPX and and other contests with this firmware, 
> and I am sure they could tell of their experiences on the transmitter 
> side.
>  
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3beta/
>  
> While on the subject of clicks, spurs, and other nasty things, I also 
> would encourage people to have a look at N2QT's question on p. 55 in 
> the April QST and WB1GCM's (at ARRL Lab) response, which also address 
> this and some other issues around RTTY keying.  He distinguishes 
> "clicks" that result from the waveform from the other bad things that 
> can happen with broken audio signal chains.  This is an important 
> distinction to keep in mind.
>  
> Enjoy!
>  
> Andy K0SM/2
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 sidetone problem

[Mike Morrow]

Are you sure that the transmit offset test slide switch on the bottom of the RF 
board PCB is not in the test position?

Mike / KK5F

-Original Message-
>From: David L DuPuy 
>Sent: Mar 21, 2013 7:57 PM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] K1 sidetone problem
>
>Has anyone else had any problems with the sidetone on the K1?  I've just
>finished building and at low power (0.5 watts) I have heavy key clicks when
>sending.  At higher outputs, I'm getting a dual tone with heavy clicks,
>sounds like RF is getting into the audio.  The problem is worse on 20m, but
>it's a big problem on 40m too.  Any ideas on where to look for a problem?
> The transceiver appears to be working normally otherwise.  thanks, Davi

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Re: [Elecraft] COntest free zones

[Jim Brown]

On 3/21/2013 3:42 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Actually, entire bands have been declared "contest-free" by general 
agreement among hams, worldwide.  30, 17, and 12 meters have been 
contest-free from their beginnings in 1979. 


Yes, and these bands are EXCELLENT for QRP, rag-chewing, digital modes, 
and back-packing because the QRM level is usually much lower and a lot 
can be done with simple antennas.


As to contesting -- the reason the bands are full during contests is 
that a LOT of hams are using them, and are using them very actively. A 
major contest will attract thousands of participants worldwide, and the 
more serious operators will often make several thousand contacts in a 
weekend with about half that many different stations.


By contrast, if you tune around the bands at times when a contest is NOT 
going on and count the QSOs, you'll find a tiny fraction of that 
number.  I've got pretty good antennas and a fairly quiet location, and 
I rarely hear more than a handful of signals at any given time on the 
CW/digital portions of 160 or 80 at night or on 40 during the day, and 
perhaps twice that number on 40 at night.  Likewise, I often call CQ at 
times when the bands are open and get no responses.


A major reason that the K3 and KX3 are so good is that the demands of 
contesters drove much of the design!


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[Gary Smith]

For most of the contests out there I use this:

http://hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.php

Click on the contest on the left & it takes you to the info page of 
the contest group.

Gary
KA1J

> I'm not a contester, but I want to know where they are, what they
> do, 
> and when I can steer clear of a contest and enjoy my KX3.
> 
> I've been licensed for a few decades, but QRP is new.
> 
> Digital modes aren't.  I was on autostart in the '70's and early
> 80's.

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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[DBellW6AQ]

The contest free zones are called the WARC bands, and the KX3 operates well 
 on all of them.
 
73, Dave
 
 
In a message dated 3/21/2013 6:20:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com writes:

I'm not  a contester, but I want to know where they are, what they do, 
and when I  can steer clear of a contest and enjoy my KX3.

I've been licensed for a  few decades, but QRP is new.

Digital modes aren't.  I was on  autostart in the '70's and early 80's.

-- Lynn

On 3/21/2013 5:58  PM, tnny...@yahoo.com wrote:
> EASY, Larry! Elecraft Radios do  participates in Contest as well.
> A little bit of tolerance with a  spoon full of Sugar makes the medicine 
go down.
>
 I  joined this forum because I own and use Elecraft equipment.  <<<
>
> So does most of us just like you do own and use  Elecraft equipment.
> Some only use their K3 for Contesting because of  the Quality that goes 
into
> and along with the radio.
>
>  Let us all get along.
>
> 73  Milverton.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>  
>> From: K2GN  
>> To: Elecraft   
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013  6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Contest free  zones
>>
>> Won't you get better participation in one on e  the "Contest" forums??
>> This is not an Elecraft related  topic.
>> I'm sure the contest population would have a lot to  say.
>> I joined this forum because I own and use Elecraft  equipment.
>> I don't care to weed through all the none Elecraft  related message.
>>  Larry/K2GN
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

I'm not a contester, but I want to know where they are, what they do, 
and when I can steer clear of a contest and enjoy my KX3.


I've been licensed for a few decades, but QRP is new.

Digital modes aren't.  I was on autostart in the '70's and early 80's.

-- Lynn

On 3/21/2013 5:58 PM, tnny...@yahoo.com wrote:

EASY, Larry! Elecraft Radios do participates in Contest as well.
A little bit of tolerance with a spoon full of Sugar makes the medicine go down.


I joined this forum because I own and use Elecraft equipment. <<<


So does most of us just like you do own and use Elecraft equipment.
Some only use their K3 for Contesting because of the Quality that goes into
and along with the radio.

Let us all get along.

73 Milverton.









From: K2GN 
To: Elecraft  
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

Won't you get better participation in one on e the "Contest" forums??
This is not an Elecraft related topic.
I'm sure the contest population would have a lot to say.
I joined this forum because I own and use Elecraft equipment.
I don't care to weed through all the none Elecraft related message.
Larry/K2GN




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[Elecraft] K1: C67 Interferes With Mounting KNB1

[Phil Barnes-Roberts WA6DZS]

Just finishing up a build for Tony, KE6JZF of a K1/KFL1-4/KAT1/KNB1
(#3195), and have found that the 2.2uF-50V electrolytic cap C67 (where
25V is called out in the Parts List) may be a bit too tall. 

It doesn't seem to bother at C31, C54, or C10 on the NB board (all
50V).  When it came time to bolt the NB to the RF board, C67 was in the
way.  After trying to gently re-wet the leads and lean it over U2, I
wound up wrapping a little wire around the (too-short) leads and
mounting it on its side under the board (which seems to fit OK.)

Anybody seen a better fix for this physical interference fit?  Final
flux wash is the next step, unless I hear better news.

-- 
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[Elecraft] XG3 CW Buffer

[Dan Sherwood]

Paul,

I did the PF,01,01; command.  It changed the function of holding the PF1
button from sending the sweep sequence to sending a steady carrier on the
original frequency for which the 20M band was configured on the XG3.  I then
did PF,01,00; which restored the sweep function.  What I had before this all
was:

WM,buffer...;

then

WM;  (Which echoed back the stuff following the first WM command.)

I would have expected then with the buffer now programmed, either holding
the PF1 button, or clicking on it in the config utility would have sent the
buffer. (After again restoring its function).  I even tried the examples
right out of the book, but no matter what I do all I get is a continuous
carrier.  In fact, even the 20M band light blinks like it¹s trying to do
something, but all I hear is a steady tone.  For some reason, the unit is
either ignoring what I have in the buffer, or there is something causing it
to completely skip over the contents.  The 20M light blinks continuously and
never stops.

73,

Dan



Hi Dan, 

The 'W' command does not send the CW memory, it sends any text following the
'W' command.  For example:  W,de_n6hz;   would send 'de n6hz' in CW
immediately.  To send the CW memory you have to first set the programmable
PF1 key (BAND+) to function as the Morse memory sender (normally it is one
of two frequency sweeps).  Do this using the 'PF' command:  PF,01,01
Then you send the Morse memory using either a long key press of the BAND+
key or by sending 'S,01' over the serial port.If you get stuck or have
additional questions please give me a call, my extension is 122.

73, 

Paul

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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[tnnyswy]

EASY, Larry! Elecraft Radios do participates in Contest as well. 
A little bit of tolerance with a spoon full of Sugar makes the medicine go down.

>>> I joined this forum because I own and use Elecraft equipment. <<< 

So does most of us just like you do own and use Elecraft equipment. 
Some only use their K3 for Contesting because of the Quality that goes into 
and along with the radio.

Let us all get along.

73 Milverton.







>
> From: K2GN 
>To: Elecraft   
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones
> 
>Won't you get better participation in one on e the "Contest" forums??
>This is not an Elecraft related topic.
>I'm sure the contest population would have a lot to say.
>I joined this forum because I own and use Elecraft equipment.
>I don't care to weed through all the none Elecraft related message.
>Larry/K2GN
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[Elecraft] K1 sidetone problem

[David L DuPuy]

Has anyone else had any problems with the sidetone on the K1?  I've just
finished building and at low power (0.5 watts) I have heavy key clicks when
sending.  At higher outputs, I'm getting a dual tone with heavy clicks,
sounds like RF is getting into the audio.  The problem is worse on 20m, but
it's a big problem on 40m too.  Any ideas on where to look for a problem?
 The transceiver appears to be working normally otherwise.  thanks, David
AC4BN
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[Elecraft] Sport or Contest - who cares!

[Bill Clarke]

This forum is intended to be about Elecraft equipment - technical 
issues, problem solving, etc. Equipment equipment equipment - as in 
hardware. Let's keep it that way!


Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] [K3/0] Is internal RemoteRig possible?

[Wright, Robert]

I was looking at the documentation for the K3/0 and RemoteRig package and found 
myself wondering if there was enough empty space inside of the K3/0 to allow 
the RemoteRig board to be placed internally.  Obviously, some fabrication and 
custom wiring would be required and the CW speed knob would need to be accessed 
somehow.  With the WiFi add-on board available from RemoteRig, I can imagine a 
K3/0 with nothing on the outside except for the WiFi antenna.  This would be a 
very appealing portable package.

Has anyone looked at this?  Is it even physically possible?

73,  Bob N7ZO
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Jim Dunstan]

At 08:44 PM 3/20/2013, you wrote:

The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio being a
sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, but I found it
interesting reading, maybe some others will also...


Interesting.  A "sportsman" in its most  general sense is someone who 
as an individual or member of a group participates in an activity for 
pleasure.  Often (but not necessarily) these activities are athletic 
in nature.  A very general term  having different connotations in 
different contexts and times.  Amateur Radio could be considered a 
Sport compared to commercial radio and a Ham a 'Sportsman'  as 
compared to a commercial radio operator.   One of the connotations of 
a sportsman is that he is an "Amateur". I think this usage in this 
context would be more common in the 1930's (or the 50's) than today.


Jim, VE3CI

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Re: [Elecraft] Knob

[Tom H Childers]

Jean Louis,

Yes, there have been some problems with the AF knobs have been known
to crack and get loose.

If you will send Elecraft support an email they will send you a
replacement.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:00:53 +0100, jean louis 
wrote:

>Bonjour..
>
>Some surprises this morning when i wanted to start my K3 to try to contact 
>H44G on 14 Mhz RTTY .. No reception in Data !
>(All was ok yesterday..)
>
>- Checking antennas, Power supply etc..
>- Exchange of the SignaLink modem with a spare. Checking wires .. No change.
>- Removal of I / O modules in the late afternoon and after checking the 
>surfaces.
>- Getting Started with the device : all works again !
>
>But ... When I made the inspection and tests during the blackout, the knob 
>AF / SUB rotates in a vacuum !
>With no sub RX in my RTX I've never used this button before.
>
>It is slit lengthwise !   Is the same problem happened to a K3 owner ?
>
>jean louis
>F5NHJ
>K2 / K3
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Contest free zones

[K2GN]

Won't you get better participation in one on e the "Contest" forums??
This is not an Elecraft related topic.
I'm sure the contest population would have a lot to say.
I joined this forum because I own and use Elecraft equipment.
I don't care to weed through all the none Elecraft related message.
Larry/K2GN




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Re: [Elecraft] COntest free zones

[Gary Gregory]

Good analysis Fred.

73

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 22/03/2013 8:43 AM, "Fred Jensen"  wrote:

> Actually, entire bands have been declared "contest-free" by general
> agreement among hams, worldwide.  30, 17, and 12 meters have been
> contest-free from their beginnings in 1979.  30 is a lot like 40, albeit
> CW/RTTY/Digital-only for most of the world except Region 1 south of the
> equator in places.  17 behaves a lot like 20, and 12 is a pleasant mixture
> of 15 and 10, often open when 10 isn't these days.  The Summits On The Air
> crowd [QRP in the field] is slowly increasing usage on these WARC bands.
>  I'd venture a guess that if additional HF bands were ever to be
> authorized, we make them contest-free too by agreement between all of us.
>
> When the 60 meter channels came along, they too are contest-free, and
> there's no contesting in the allocations below 160, although ERP limits at
> 137 KHz and likely around the Holy Frequency if that ever happens puts a
> damper on contesting there anyway. :-)
>
> All of our allocations are shared, both in the frequency domain and in the
> time domain, no one has claim to any frequency.  Admittedly, there are
> those who don't believe that, but if you got there first and it was empty,
> you have the right to use the frequency.  Intentional interference is
> prohibited although you'd never know that in the 14230-14236 range.
>
> Even The Old Man was complaining about "Rotten QRM" well before anyone at
> Elecraft was born.  All in all, I think we share the bands pretty well.
>  Contests do have the distinct advantage of really populating bands that
> otherwise would give regulators and those coveting yet more spectrum the
> impression that our bands are unused.  And yes, the ARRL Operating Manual
> was separated from the Handbook when operating became more complex and with
> more choices.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 3/21/2013 1:21 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>>
>>  It would be helpful to have a small section of the bands “off
>>> limits” for contesting on the CW-data and SSB segments of each band
>>> in areas that General/Tech class people or higher could use during
>>> the “tests”.
>>>
>>
>> You've got to be kidding - particularly on 80/40 meter CW and data.
>> With the most recent "land grab" by phone there is less than 50 KHz
>> for US data operations.  On 40, the area between 7100 and 7150 is
>> almost completely void of CW/RTTY contest activity even in CQWW -
>> the most crowded of all contests.
>>
>>  even if ARRL doesn’t care anymore. (They no longer put the “Operating
>>> an Amateur Station” chapter in the “Handbook” anymore!)
>>>
>>
>> That's because it has been expanded to an entire book:
>>  The ARRL Operating Manual (now in the 10th Edition)
>> http://www.arrl.org/shop/ARRL-**Operating-Manual-10th-Edition/
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] COntest free zones

[Fred Jensen]

Actually, entire bands have been declared "contest-free" by general 
agreement among hams, worldwide.  30, 17, and 12 meters have been 
contest-free from their beginnings in 1979.  30 is a lot like 40, albeit 
CW/RTTY/Digital-only for most of the world except Region 1 south of the 
equator in places.  17 behaves a lot like 20, and 12 is a pleasant 
mixture of 15 and 10, often open when 10 isn't these days.  The Summits 
On The Air crowd [QRP in the field] is slowly increasing usage on these 
WARC bands.  I'd venture a guess that if additional HF bands were ever 
to be authorized, we make them contest-free too by agreement between all 
of us.


When the 60 meter channels came along, they too are contest-free, and 
there's no contesting in the allocations below 160, although ERP limits 
at 137 KHz and likely around the Holy Frequency if that ever happens 
puts a damper on contesting there anyway. :-)


All of our allocations are shared, both in the frequency domain and in 
the time domain, no one has claim to any frequency.  Admittedly, there 
are those who don't believe that, but if you got there first and it was 
empty, you have the right to use the frequency.  Intentional 
interference is prohibited although you'd never know that in the 
14230-14236 range.


Even The Old Man was complaining about "Rotten QRM" well before anyone 
at Elecraft was born.  All in all, I think we share the bands pretty 
well.  Contests do have the distinct advantage of really populating 
bands that otherwise would give regulators and those coveting yet more 
spectrum the impression that our bands are unused.  And yes, the ARRL 
Operating Manual was separated from the Handbook when operating became 
more complex and with more choices.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

On 3/21/2013 1:21 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:



It would be helpful to have a small section of the bands “off
limits” for contesting on the CW-data and SSB segments of each band
in areas that General/Tech class people or higher could use during
the “tests”.


You've got to be kidding - particularly on 80/40 meter CW and data.
With the most recent "land grab" by phone there is less than 50 KHz
for US data operations.  On 40, the area between 7100 and 7150 is
almost completely void of CW/RTTY contest activity even in CQWW -
the most crowded of all contests.


even if ARRL doesn’t care anymore. (They no longer put the “Operating
an Amateur Station” chapter in the “Handbook” anymore!)


That's because it has been expanded to an entire book:
 The ARRL Operating Manual (now in the 10th Edition)
http://www.arrl.org/shop/ARRL-Operating-Manual-10th-Edition/




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 question

[Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)]

Bonjour Christophe,

That's correct.

Bonne chance!

73,
Peter

K2 #4837

Op 2013-03-21 22:13 schreef Christophe F8ACF-56:

hello list,

it says this on page 54 of the book

" The bag filter crystals of 7 Should Have a number written on it.
Record the number here: ___. (This identified the tested
frequency of the crystals, and can be used in aligning filters."

on my bag is registered 4.913MHZ, have I understood correctly?

   thank you for your help, even if the child seems to question you, that I 
avoid misunderstanding and try to lead my K2 to good success.

73 F8ACF K2 # 7369
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 question

[Don Wilhelm]

Christophe,

Look on the other side of that crystal envelope (side opposite the white 
label).  You should find a handwritten number like "3.6". That is the 
number that you will need.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/21/2013 5:13 PM, Christophe F8ACF-56 wrote:

hello list,

it says this on page 54 of the book

" The bag filter crystals of 7 Should Have a number written on it.
Record the number here: ___. (This identified the tested
frequency of the crystals, and can be used in aligning filters."

on my bag is registered 4.913MHZ, have I understood correctly?

   thank you for your help, even if the child seems to question you, that I 
avoid misunderstanding and try to lead my K2 to good success.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Sam Morgan]

DUH,
what an excellent idea, and such a simple fix
I with draw my misguided request
(optional of course, didn't realize I needed to say that)
and I apologize for any fear of change it may have fostered in some

GB all

On 3/21/2013 3:44 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Sam,

Could I offer a suggestion?  Hold the right side of the mode button to put the
K3 into TX TEST to prevent any RF from going out if the K3 is falsely triggered
into transmit.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/21/2013 2:45 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)

My problem is, while in SSB,
I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.

all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(

if I also have the audio volume down,
I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
because with the nice quiet solid state relays
there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.

so my request is this
if 'CW in SSB' is set on
and the K3 is in SSB
when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
can you somehow tell the software
to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?





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K5OAI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[w7xu]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the request, but it doesn't seem like
a good idea to me.

Imagine I'm on 6m during a contest with CW in SSB enabled.
I'm keying the radio with the computer, so I have the VOX-QSK
button set to PTT.  I'm on phone, but I want to answer someone
on CW.  So now I won't be able to send CW without engaging
the VOX?  Or, if I was using the radio with a transverter, I'd
have to run VOX and likely blow up my preamp?

Sorry, but I'd vote no on that.

73,  Arliss  W7XU


> so my request is this
> if 'CW in SSB' is set on
> and the K3 is in SSB
> when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
> can you somehow tell the software
> to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
> to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?
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[Elecraft] K2 question

[Christophe F8ACF-56]

hello list,

it says this on page 54 of the book 

" The bag filter crystals of 7 Should Have a number written on it.
Record the number here: ___. (This identified the tested
frequency of the crystals, and can be used in aligning filters."

on my bag is registered 4.913MHZ, have I understood correctly?

  thank you for your help, even if the child seems to question you, that I 
avoid misunderstanding and try to lead my K2 to good success.

73 F8ACF K2 # 7369
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Gary Gregory]

No option necessary. Pay attention to where those pesky fingers go:-)

73

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 22/03/2013 7:08 AM, "hawley, charles j jr"  wrote:

> No...please Elecraft don't limit everyone because someone bumps his
> keyer...unless it's optional.
>
> Chuck, KE9UW
> AARL, CCA
> Lionel Trains TCA, LCCA, LRRC
> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWRA, BMWMOA #224
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
> on behalf of Sam Morgan [k5oai@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:45 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change
>
> I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
> this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
> Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)
>
> My problem is, while in SSB,
> I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
> because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.
>
> all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
> and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(
>
> if I also have the audio volume down,
> I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
> because with the nice quiet solid state relays
> there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.
>
> so my request is this
> if 'CW in SSB' is set on
> and the K3 is in SSB
> when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
> can you somehow tell the software
> to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
> to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?
>
> TIA
>
>
> --
>
> GB & 73
> K5OAI
> Sam Morgan
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Re: [Elecraft] COntest free zones (was: Is ham radio a sport ??)

[Gary Gregory]

Contests can often help you get that much sought after entity...:-)

73

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 22/03/2013 6:33 AM, "Gil G."  wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 16:21 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> > > It would be helpful to have a small section of the bands “off
> > > limits” for contesting on the CW-data and SSB segments of each band
> > > in areas that General/Tech class people or higher could use during
> > > the “tests”.
> >
> > You've got to be kidding - particularly on 80/40 meter CW and data.
> > With the most recent "land grab" by phone there is less than 50 KHz
> > for US data operations.  On 40, the area between 7100 and 7150 is
> > almost completely void of CW/RTTY contest activity even in CQWW -
> > the most crowded of all contests.
>
> [RANT]
> If only the contesters would remain off QRP calling frequencies.. But
> no, they park for hours on end there, calling non-stop with only two
> seconds between calls.. All week-end! My hobby doesn't encroach on
> theirs, why do they have to keep me off the bands? 7100-7150 free of
> contests? That's news to me. I guess nobody has told these guys either..
> I know, 30 and 17m... So I am pushed out of my favorite bands to others
> for which I don't have an antenna set-up, and in most cases, my rigs
> don't cover.. I'm not asking for much, just stay off a few frequencies..
> Common decency.. [/RANT]
>
> Can you tell I hate contests?
>
> Gil.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[hawley, charles j jr]

No...please Elecraft don't limit everyone because someone bumps his 
keyer...unless it's optional.

Chuck, KE9UW
AARL, CCA
Lionel Trains TCA, LCCA, LRRC
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWRA, BMWMOA #224

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Sam Morgan [k5oai@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:45 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)

My problem is, while in SSB,
I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.

all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(

if I also have the audio volume down,
I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
because with the nice quiet solid state relays
there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.

so my request is this
if 'CW in SSB' is set on
and the K3 is in SSB
when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
can you somehow tell the software
to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?

TIA


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K5OAI
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[Elecraft] Knob

[jean louis]

Bonjour..

Some surprises this morning when i wanted to start my K3 to try to contact 
H44G on 14 Mhz RTTY .. No reception in Data !

(All was ok yesterday..)

- Checking antennas, Power supply etc..
- Exchange of the SignaLink modem with a spare. Checking wires .. No change.
- Removal of I / O modules in the late afternoon and after checking the 
surfaces.

- Getting Started with the device : all works again !

But ... When I made the inspection and tests during the blackout, the knob 
AF / SUB rotates in a vacuum !

With no sub RX in my RTX I've never used this button before.

It is slit lengthwise !   Is the same problem happened to a K3 owner ?

jean louis
F5NHJ
K2 / K3




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[Elecraft] RSGB RadCom Review of KX3

[Doug Turnbull]

Dear Elecrafters,

   Just to let you know that RadCom, the journal of RSGB has printed in
their April Issue a very favourable review of the KX3.   The review is
written by Peter Hart, G3SJX.It is far too much to cover in this post
but the following is the conclusion which of course lacks the numbers from
this fine review:
 The KX3 is indeed a remarkable radio.Ideally suited for those out and
about and conducting SOTA mountain top operations, it boasts an impressive
performance and is most effective in operation.   Very rich in features that
really are useful and well implemented, it has many similarities with its
larger sibling, the K3.   It will also perform well as a base station but
for primary base use a larger dedicated radio may be more convenient and
appropriate, particularly where there is a need to interface extensively to
ancillary units such as linears and PCs for data modes.   

 

  The report is highly complementary of the receiver section of the KX3
and I believe gives a very good insight into the radio performance.
Maybe in time Elecraft might obtain a copy of this review to include on
their site.

 

  Congratulations to Elecraft. I have purchased a used KX3 from this
web site but have yet to see it.   It is with my brother in Connecticut. a
long way off.I happily use the K3 with all its many accessories but am
now looking forward to some fun with the KX3 especially when I visit family
in the States.

 

  73 Doug EI2CN

 

  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Don Wilhelm]

Sam,

Could I offer a suggestion?  Hold the right side of the mode button to 
put the K3 into TX TEST to prevent any RF from going out if the K3 is 
falsely triggered into transmit.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/21/2013 2:45 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)

My problem is, while in SSB,
I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.

all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(

if I also have the audio volume down,
I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
because with the nice quiet solid state relays
there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.

so my request is this
if 'CW in SSB' is set on
and the K3 is in SSB
when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
can you somehow tell the software
to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Tom H Childers]

I use CW when in SSB when on 6m a lot, but I jeep the paddles in a
clear area where nothing can touch them except my thumb and
forefinger. Even then I bump them anyway.

Joe is right!  We don't need changes to the K3 to protect us from
making mistakes.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:13:12 -0400, "Joe Subich, W4TV"
 wrote:

>
>Please *DON'T!* disable CW in SSB when SSB VOX is off.  I never use
>VOX on phone and use CW in SSB regularly.  This requested change
>would break CW in SSB for anyone who does not use VOX on phone.
>
>73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>On 3/21/2013 2:45 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
>> I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
>> this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
>> Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)
>>
>> My problem is, while in SSB,
>> I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
>> because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.
>>
>> all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
>> and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(
>>
>> if I also have the audio volume down,
>> I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
>> because with the nice quiet solid state relays
>> there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.
>>
>> so my request is this
>> if 'CW in SSB' is set on
>> and the K3 is in SSB
>> when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
>> can you somehow tell the software
>> to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
>> to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] COntest free zones (was: Is ham radio a sport ??)

[Gil G.]

On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 16:21 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> > It would be helpful to have a small section of the bands “off
> > limits” for contesting on the CW-data and SSB segments of each band
> > in areas that General/Tech class people or higher could use during
> > the “tests”.
> 
> You've got to be kidding - particularly on 80/40 meter CW and data.
> With the most recent "land grab" by phone there is less than 50 KHz
> for US data operations.  On 40, the area between 7100 and 7150 is
> almost completely void of CW/RTTY contest activity even in CQWW -
> the most crowded of all contests.

[RANT]
If only the contesters would remain off QRP calling frequencies.. But
no, they park for hours on end there, calling non-stop with only two
seconds between calls.. All week-end! My hobby doesn't encroach on
theirs, why do they have to keep me off the bands? 7100-7150 free of
contests? That's news to me. I guess nobody has told these guys either..
I know, 30 and 17m... So I am pushed out of my favorite bands to others
for which I don't have an antenna set-up, and in most cases, my rigs
don't cover.. I'm not asking for much, just stay off a few frequencies..
Common decency.. [/RANT]

Can you tell I hate contests?

Gil.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Stephen Prior]

I wholeheartedly agree with Joe, such a change would completely remove the
value of the feature.

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 21 March 2013 19:13, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> Please *DON'T!* disable CW in SSB when SSB VOX is off.  I never use
> VOX on phone and use CW in SSB regularly.  This requested change
> would break CW in SSB for anyone who does not use VOX on phone.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 3/21/2013 2:45 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
>
>> I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
>> this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
>> Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)
>>
>> My problem is, while in SSB,
>> I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
>> because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.
>>
>> all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
>> and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(
>>
>> if I also have the audio volume down,
>> I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
>> because with the nice quiet solid state relays
>> there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.
>>
>> so my request is this
>> if 'CW in SSB' is set on
>> and the K3 is in SSB
>> when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
>> can you somehow tell the software
>> to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
>> to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] COntest free zones (was: Is ham radio a sport ??)

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

It would be helpful to have a small section of the bands “off
limits” for contesting on the CW-data and SSB segments of each band
in areas that General/Tech class people or higher could use during
the “tests”.


You've got to be kidding - particularly on 80/40 meter CW and data.
With the most recent "land grab" by phone there is less than 50 KHz
for US data operations.  On 40, the area between 7100 and 7150 is
almost completely void of CW/RTTY contest activity even in CQWW -
the most crowded of all contests.


even if ARRL doesn’t care anymore. (They no longer put the “Operating
an Amateur Station” chapter in the “Handbook” anymore!)


That's because it has been expanded to an entire book:
The ARRL Operating Manual (now in the 10th Edition)
http://www.arrl.org/shop/ARRL-Operating-Manual-10th-Edition/

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/21/2013 3:54 PM, Sandy Blaize wrote:

Bill,

AGREED!  Also don’t forget about 60 meters!  A lot of people miss a “good bet” 
to contact some of the people they usually work on 80 or 40 meters when those 
bands are jammed packed on weekends with contesting!  Unfortunately, for the 
most part, you can’t work 60 with old boatanchor gear.  It is even more useful 
now that they have allocated a “new channel 3” instead of the one that always 
seemed in government use.

Even though there is no contesting on WARC bands, there are times the 
propagation isn’t right for some areas you
normally work on 80/40/20 meters  (especially 80/40 for short skip stuff).  It 
would be helpful to have a small section of the bands “off limits” for 
contesting on the CW-data and SSB segments of each band in areas that 
General/Tech class people or higher could use during the “tests”.  I queried 
ARRL about it a couple of times.  The ARRL Official Observers could be 
reporting those stations and times that the “violations” occurred.  If you got 
more than say 5 contacts in the “off limits” segments, You could have you 
entire log disqualified.  The “segments could be small, say 10-15 khz max.and 
leave a hole for those needing to work buddies across the continent.  I didn’t 
even get an answer from them about this.

What operating courtesy existed 20+ years ago and the use of calling protocols 
during CW contacts has almost ceased to exist now.  Some of the “no coders” ARE 
trying, so it’s up to us old timers to “educate” them about on the air 
politeness, even if ARRL doesn’t care anymore.  (They no longer put the 
“Operating an Amateur Station” chapter in the “Handbook” anymore!)

Most of the “newbies” I have QSOed are willing to learn, but seem to be 
mimicking the techniques of the “hit and run” techniques used by the hard core 
contesters, most of which has no place in a casual polite  QSO!

Just my 2 cents worth from someone that’s pounded a key since 1951.  All my 
stern “Elmers” are “SK” now I’m afraid.  Sometimes they had stern words for us 
beginners back then.

73,

Sandy W5TVW

From: Bill Gerth
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:27 AM
To: Sandy Blaize
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

Sandy,

Actually, ALL WARC BANDS (30, 17, 12 meters) are already off limits to contest 
activity.  This is strictly enforced by contest organizers by rejecting any 
QSOs submitted for those bands.  Although I am a contester, I don't enter every 
contest.  The WARC bands offer a wide variety of propagation characteristics 
and I really enjoy using them.

73,

BILL GERTH, W4RK
Jefferson City, MO
First Licensed 1954
CWOPS #459
4 States QRP Group
KX3 (S/N 112)

On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Sandy Blaize wrote:


   TOO MUCH, especially on weekends!   Shouldn't there be a small segment of the bands 
set aside for "non contest" use?  Or would this be asking too much??

   73,
   Sandy W5TVW



   -Original Message- From: Scott Manthe
   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:05 PM
   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

   Many contesters consider contesting "radiosport."

   73,
   Scott, N9AA


   On 3/20/13 8:44 PM, Paul VanOveren wrote:

 The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio being a

 sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, but I found it

 interesting reading, maybe some others will also...



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[Elecraft] Is Ham Radio A Sport?

[David Boyd]

Yup.  Here is the history of the word “sport:”

 

"Sport" comes from the Old French 
  desport meaning "leisure", with 
the oldest definition in English from around 1300 being "anything humans find 
amusing or entertaining".[6]  

The Chinese term for sport, tiyu (体育; 體育) connotes physical training. The 
modern Greek term for sport is Αθλητισμός (athlitismos), directly cognate with 
the English terms "athlete" and "athleticism".

Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; 
hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[7] 
  Roget's defines the noun 
sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms 
including diversion and recreation

The Soviet Union also had a category for “Radiosport.”

 

Actually, I don’t really care.  If you don’t want to consider it a sport, then 
don’t.  But then that’s your opinion, not the definition of the term.

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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Sandy Blaize]

Bill,

AGREED!  Also don’t forget about 60 meters!  A lot of people miss a “good bet” 
to contact some of the people they usually work on 80 or 40 meters when those 
bands are jammed packed on weekends with contesting!  Unfortunately, for the 
most part, you can’t work 60 with old boatanchor gear.  It is even more useful 
now that they have allocated a “new channel 3” instead of the one that always 
seemed in government use.  

Even though there is no contesting on WARC bands, there are times the 
propagation isn’t right for some areas you 
normally work on 80/40/20 meters  (especially 80/40 for short skip stuff).  It 
would be helpful to have a small section of the bands “off limits” for 
contesting on the CW-data and SSB segments of each band in areas that 
General/Tech class people or higher could use during the “tests”.  I queried 
ARRL about it a couple of times.  The ARRL Official Observers could be 
reporting those stations and times that the “violations” occurred.  If you got 
more than say 5 contacts in the “off limits” segments, You could have you 
entire log disqualified.  The “segments could be small, say 10-15 khz max.and 
leave a hole for those needing to work buddies across the continent.  I didn’t 
even get an answer from them about this.

What operating courtesy existed 20+ years ago and the use of calling protocols 
during CW contacts has almost ceased to exist now.  Some of the “no coders” ARE 
trying, so it’s up to us old timers to “educate” them about on the air 
politeness, even if ARRL doesn’t care anymore.  (They no longer put the 
“Operating an Amateur Station” chapter in the “Handbook” anymore!)

Most of the “newbies” I have QSOed are willing to learn, but seem to be 
mimicking the techniques of the “hit and run” techniques used by the hard core 
contesters, most of which has no place in a casual polite  QSO!

Just my 2 cents worth from someone that’s pounded a key since 1951.  All my 
stern “Elmers” are “SK” now I’m afraid.  Sometimes they had stern words for us 
beginners back then.

73,

Sandy W5TVW

From: Bill Gerth 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:27 AM
To: Sandy Blaize 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

Sandy, 

Actually, ALL WARC BANDS (30, 17, 12 meters) are already off limits to contest 
activity.  This is strictly enforced by contest organizers by rejecting any 
QSOs submitted for those bands.  Although I am a contester, I don't enter every 
contest.  The WARC bands offer a wide variety of propagation characteristics 
and I really enjoy using them.  

73,

BILL GERTH, W4RK
Jefferson City, MO
First Licensed 1954
CWOPS #459
4 States QRP Group
KX3 (S/N 112)

On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Sandy Blaize wrote:


  TOO MUCH, especially on weekends!   Shouldn't there be a small segment of the 
bands set aside for "non contest" use?  Or would this be asking too much??

  73,
  Sandy W5TVW



  -Original Message- From: Scott Manthe
  Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:05 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

  Many contesters consider contesting "radiosport."

  73,
  Scott, N9AA


  On 3/20/13 8:44 PM, Paul VanOveren wrote:

The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio being a

sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, but I found it

interesting reading, maybe some others will also...



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[Elecraft] [KAT500] Outdoor mounting?

[Rick Miller - AI1V]

Several months ago I recall seeing updates from someone who had remotely
mounted a KAT500 outside in a waterproof enclosure.  I haven't seen any news
on this and was wondering how it's going.  Has anyone heard?

Rick
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Please *DON'T!* disable CW in SSB when SSB VOX is off.  I never use
VOX on phone and use CW in SSB regularly.  This requested change
would break CW in SSB for anyone who does not use VOX on phone.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/21/2013 2:45 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)

My problem is, while in SSB,
I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.

all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(

if I also have the audio volume down,
I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
because with the nice quiet solid state relays
there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.

so my request is this
if 'CW in SSB' is set on
and the K3 is in SSB
when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
can you somehow tell the software
to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?

TIA



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[Elecraft] K3 feature request 'CW in SSB' change

[Sam Morgan]

I run my K3 with 'CW in SSB' enabled
this is found under CONFIG: CW WGHT
Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes)

My problem is, while in SSB,
I often use the [VOX-QSK] button to turn the mike/vox off,
because I am trying to prevent any unintended transmissions.

all goes well unless I happen to bump my cw keyer
and then the K3 starts sending a string of dits or dahs :-(

if I also have the audio volume down,
I don't even know I'm transmitting*NOT GOOD*
because with the nice quiet solid state relays
there is no keying kerchunk like I hear when my amp is keyed.

so my request is this
if 'CW in SSB' is set on
and the K3 is in SSB
when the [VOX-QSK] button is pushed to turn the mike/vox off
can you somehow tell the software
to also *not* allow my cw key or keyer
to cause the K3 to transmit the cw tones?

TIA


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[Elecraft] Yes, Martha, there really is a WRTC sport

[Doug VE3VS]

Every four years there is a spirited competition amongt teams from 40 to 50
different coutries around the world. In 2014, the contest will be taking
place in New England.

Check out this website for complete information . . .
http://www.wrtc2014.org/

Doug, VE3VS



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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Gary Smith]

>From my perspective, ham radio certainly is a sport to some and it's 
certainly going to have different impressions to different people. 
With many hundreds of thousands of ham operators, there will be many 
with the same opinions. Contesting certainly pushes the envelope for 
better technology and if you have a pileup on a rare DX, many of the 
same technological advances for contesting comes into play to wrangle 
a Q from that difficult DX station with a huge pileup. I chose the K3 
opposed to the Orion because of the attention Elecraft was giving at 
that time to the software in the K3 and I wanted the ability to hear 
a fly hiccup from 50 feet. Because of the attention to the Ham 
requests, Elecraft responded rapidly and I chose the K3 with all the 
whistles.

As to the OTHR, I can't say I have been aware of it at my QTH and 
that may be a result on none locally or maybe a lack of adequate 
antennae (all wire antennas hung in trees). But, my second radio was 
a Drake TR7 and the Russian "Woodpecker" was horrible back then and 
Drake had a modification to their noise blanker that was predictive 
for that and it worked wonders! 

It may be asking too much to think that Elecraft will improve their 
noise blanking functions to meet this need. I'm not an engineer and 
don't understand the limitations between difficult and impossible in 
this regard. I do know power line noise from Amtrak's catenary 
overhead power lines is killing my reception and there is nothing I 
can do with NB & NR settings in the K3 to mitigate it. Something more 
repetitive as OTHR might have better success at resolution. Still, if 
there were a better way to reduce the effects of power line noise or 
digital RF producing devices, that would certainly be of benefit to 
almost all of us.

Gary
KA1J
 
> > TOO MUCH, especially on weekends! Shouldn't there be a small
> segment of
> > the bands set aside for "non contest" use? Or would this be asking
> too
> > much??
> 
> It takes the level of activity of a contest to keep amateur
> allocations 
> free of over-the-horizon radar.
> 
> On 2013-03-17 - during the Russian DX Contest, one of few phone/CW
> events - I have only 65 entries in my OTHR SWL log.



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] smallest, lightest possible hard case for KX3

[Randy Moore]

Dave does great work!

73,
Randy, KS4L

On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen  wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> I'm currently prototyping a custom hard case for the KX3. It is made of black 
> opaque acrylic and is just big enough to house the KX3. I put 1" foam on the 
> bottom with cut outs for the knobs and thin felt on the ends and corners to 
> protect the BNC ports and thumb screws. The KX3 fits face down on the foam 
> and case has a sliding top that slides over the KX3 and latches it shut.
> 
> I'm working on two versions: one to just house the KX3 with no accessories 
> and another that would house the KX3 with the KXPD3 attached and enough 
> storage space for the MH3 mic, cord and accessory cord set.
> 
> The KX3 only version weighs in at just under 12 oz. I haven't weighed the 
> other version yet. I'm guessing under 1 lb. The acrylic is 1/8" thick and the 
> felt is 1/16" thick. So, the case is just a hair over 3/16" bigger than the 
> KX3 itself and a little thicker than that for the thickness to protect the 
> VFO knob. I'm also working on a way to attach D-rings to the sides so that a 
> carrying strap may be utilized. I'm really trying to be cognizant of the 
> weight with this so that it can be used for backpacking and hiking.
> 
> I am using Ron, AC7AC to help me test the cases and in turn he has offered to 
> provide some nice pics (he is a much better photographer than I am. Besides I 
> don't have a KX3 yet). I hadn't planned on posting anything yet as I'm having 
> some minor surgery done tomorrow and I'll be out of the shop for a few days 
> or more and will delay the prototyping process. But as soon as I can get the 
> prototypes to Ron and tested, I will start to offer them on my website.
> 
> I also have a clear acrylic dust cover for the KX3 that protects the face of 
> the KX3 but still allows it to be connected to all your cabling. This has 
> been tested by a couple of hams for me and they report that it works well. I 
> will try to update my website during my recovery and come up with pricing.
> 
> For those not familiar with my work, here is a link to my site: 
> http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/enclosures.html
> 
> I make enclosures for all of Elecraft's mini modules and I've also done some 
> custom key/paddle enclosure projects.
> 
> For anyone looking for soft cover protection, please don't forget Rose Kopp. 
> She makes great soft cover and carrying cases for all of Elecraft's products. 
> Ken and Rose always monitor the Elecraft and KX3 list.
> 
> Take care all & 73,
> Dave W8FGU
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/20/2013 09:21 PM, eric norris wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Terry Schieler]

Regardless of your definition of "sport", this is one of the best articles I've 
seen (especially from 1958) that explains in layman's terms, the idiosyncrasies 
of our fine hobby and the hobby-within-a-hobby that is DX contesting.  It was a 
very enjoyable read and I've shared it with others.  

(Wayne's totally accurate "desoldering" article is a very close second!)

Thank you, Paul.  (You too Wayne)

73,

Terry, W0FM


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From: Paul VanOveren [mailto:p...@nf8j.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:44 PM
To: elecraft reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio being a 
sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, but I found it 
interesting reading, maybe some others will also...

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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[VR2BrettGraham]

W5TVW asked:


TOO MUCH, especially on weekends! Shouldn't there be a small segment of
the bands set aside for "non contest" use? Or would this be asking too
much??


It takes the level of activity of a contest to keep amateur allocations 
free of over-the-horizon radar.


On 2013-03-17 - during the Russian DX Contest, one of few phone/CW 
events - I have only 65 entries in my OTHR SWL log.


Compare that to today - with about 6 hours left to go: 270 entries in 
the log already.  Sadly, that's typical for a weekday, based on about 
two months of nearly daily observation.


Within minutes of contests ending, I've seen the VK OTHR return to 15m.  
Contest activity can also push the OTHRs around the band - I've seen 
this happen with both VK & what probably was ZC4, working their way up 
the band over the course of a few hours, away from the contest activity 
as it increased as the band opened to a populated part of the world - 
and then back again as the band started to close down.


During the RDXC contest I also logged a LOT less of the Bravoland OTHRs, 
so activity is GOOD.  It keeps these nastiest of intruders - with ERPs 
of ~60 dBW across 10,/20/50 kc or more of the band at one go - away.  
These things are literally electromagnetic weapons of mass destruction & 
they're used on amateurs daily.


Is very clear from here: use it or loose it.  Amateur service activity - 
even if it isn't particularly your cup of tea - is better than 
radiolocation service activity in allocations where there should be no 
radiolocation.  At least IMHO.  Nothing else keeps OTHR away - only 
contests do.


I'll say this again - it would be really neat if the K3 had a predictive 
blanker for OTHR.


73, ex-VR2BG/p.

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[Elecraft] KX3 Stand

[Phil LaMarche]

For those looking for a stand, Nifty Accessories has one that is really
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

In the interest of keeping list volume under control and beter SNR, lets 
end this thread at this time.


In the future, please resist the urge to reply if there have been more 
than 10 postings on an off-topic like this in a short period. This one 
way exceeded that limit.


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On 3/21/2013 8:35 AM, david Moes wrote:

17m 12m and 30m are not used in contests

David Moes

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[Elecraft] [OT] Bill Leonard

[Jim McDonald]

He was W2SKE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Leonard_(journalist)


73, Jim N7US




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Re: [Elecraft] [elecraft] Is ham radio a sport?

[Jeff Cathrow]

Whether ham radio is a sport or not is probably a moot point in this day and 
age yet I am responding here (my first time since subscribing about three years 
ago) since I enjoyed reading Bill Leonard's 1958 article so much.  Thank you, 
Paul, NF8J, for posting the link to such an intelligent, well-written piece 
about our marvelous pastime-hobby-passion-sport.  It was a solid joy to read! 
Despite being obviously a bit dated in parts, Bill's Sports Illustrated article 
still provides the current lay reader with plenty of insight into what 
motivates all of us in our great hobby.   He portrays us crazy contesters, 
rabid DX chasers, casual ragchewers and electronic tinkerers as diverse equals 
bound by one common interest; radio communications.  We are not only cast in a 
favorable light but our operations are explained well and made enticing to the 
reader.   Leonard's article portrays us sharing the fun, usefullness and 
thrills inherent in amateur radio.  We are shown to do so in the 
 interest of simply communicating with our fellow man---both near---and afar.  
Ham radio is made accessible and even some basic radio theory is interjected 
without being unfathomable.  Kudos to Bill Leonard! By the way, wasn't the 
author the past head of CBS at one time?  He was also a ham if I recall 
correctly. I printed out a few copies to have on hand here in my shack.  I deem 
this vintage gem of an article actually worthy of attracting new hams into our 
realm since it conveys such a broad range of information so timelessly.   
Perhaps we might want to have copies of this available at Field Day or other 
public events, too---it's truly "good press" in my book! 73,
 
Jeff Cathrow, NH7RO K3 #5528  P3 #1397  KPA500 # 0250
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] XG3 CW Buffer

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Dan, 

The 'W' command does not send the CW memory, it sends any text following the
'W' command.  For example:  W,de_n6hz;   would send 'de n6hz' in CW
immediately.  To send the CW memory you have to first set the programmable
PF1 key (BAND+) to function as the Morse memory sender (normally it is one
of two frequency sweeps).  Do this using the 'PF' command:  PF,01,01 
Then you send the Morse memory using either a long key press of the BAND+
key or by sending 'S,01' over the serial port.If you get stuck or have
additional questions please give me a call, my extension is 122. 

73, 

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] smallest, lightest possible hard case for KX3

[Dave Van Wallaghen]

Eric,

I'm currently prototyping a custom hard case for the KX3. It is made of 
black opaque acrylic and is just big enough to house the KX3. I put 1" 
foam on the bottom with cut outs for the knobs and thin felt on the ends 
and corners to protect the BNC ports and thumb screws. The KX3 fits face 
down on the foam and case has a sliding top that slides over the KX3 and 
latches it shut.


I'm working on two versions: one to just house the KX3 with no 
accessories and another that would house the KX3 with the KXPD3 attached 
and enough storage space for the MH3 mic, cord and accessory cord set.


The KX3 only version weighs in at just under 12 oz. I haven't weighed 
the other version yet. I'm guessing under 1 lb. The acrylic is 1/8" 
thick and the felt is 1/16" thick. So, the case is just a hair over 
3/16" bigger than the KX3 itself and a little thicker than that for the 
thickness to protect the VFO knob. I'm also working on a way to attach 
D-rings to the sides so that a carrying strap may be utilized. I'm 
really trying to be cognizant of the weight with this so that it can be 
used for backpacking and hiking.


I am using Ron, AC7AC to help me test the cases and in turn he has 
offered to provide some nice pics (he is a much better photographer than 
I am. Besides I don't have a KX3 yet). I hadn't planned on posting 
anything yet as I'm having some minor surgery done tomorrow and I'll be 
out of the shop for a few days or more and will delay the prototyping 
process. But as soon as I can get the prototypes to Ron and tested, I 
will start to offer them on my website.


I also have a clear acrylic dust cover for the KX3 that protects the 
face of the KX3 but still allows it to be connected to all your cabling. 
This has been tested by a couple of hams for me and they report that it 
works well. I will try to update my website during my recovery and come 
up with pricing.


For those not familiar with my work, here is a link to my site: 
http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/enclosures.html


I make enclosures for all of Elecraft's mini modules and I've also done 
some custom key/paddle enclosure projects.


For anyone looking for soft cover protection, please don't forget Rose 
Kopp. She makes great soft cover and carrying cases for all of 
Elecraft's products. Ken and Rose always monitor the Elecraft and KX3 list.


Take care all & 73,
Dave W8FGU



On 03/20/2013 09:21 PM, eric norris wrote:

Does anyone have a suggestion for the smallest, lightest possible hard
case for a kx3?  It must be able to take the weight of a fat old man
falling on it repeatedly in the snow, at speed, arms and legs akimbo
(that is, get jabbed by ski poles and skis).  I have a Pelican 1170, but
I am looking for something smaller that the naked kx3 will just fit into.

Thanks and 73

Eric WD6DBM

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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[david Moes]

17m 12m and 30m are not used in contests

David Moes

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On 3/21/2013 11:18 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

Isn't 17 meters left alone during contests?  Also, if I remember, 30 meters is 
left out too.   And, 30 meters is one of my favorite bands.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Sandy Blaize  wrote:


TOO MUCH, especially on weekends!   Shouldn't there be a small segment of the bands set 
aside for "non contest" use?  Or would this be asking too much??

73,
Sandy W5TVW



-Original Message- From: Scott Manthe
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Many contesters consider contesting "radiosport."

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 3/20/13 8:44 PM, Paul VanOveren wrote:

The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio being a
sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, but I found it
interesting reading, maybe some others will also...

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1002473/index.htm

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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Walter Underwood]

On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Keith Heimbold wrote:

> For a long time I was thinking of combining snowboarding and DXing together 
> as an activity. Maybe remote on top of Mammoth looking for a tree to hang an 
> antenna and working DX, but even that would not be a sport. 


We call that Summits on the Air (SOTA). Here is a report from a recent 
activation. KU6J was pretty happy with his new crampons.

http://www.grizzlyguy.com/HamRadio/SOTA-Activation-MtLincoln-0313/28433681_4rFqGj

To get back to Elecraft, the KX3 is quite popular for SOTA.

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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Phil Hystad]

Isn't 17 meters left alone during contests?  Also, if I remember, 30 meters is 
left out too.   And, 30 meters is one of my favorite bands.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Sandy Blaize  wrote:

> TOO MUCH, especially on weekends!   Shouldn't there be a small segment of the 
> bands set aside for "non contest" use?  Or would this be asking too much??
> 
> 73,
> Sandy W5TVW
> 
> 
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> -Original Message- From: Scott Manthe
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> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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> 
> Many contesters consider contesting "radiosport."
> 
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
> 
> 
> On 3/20/13 8:44 PM, Paul VanOveren wrote:
>> The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio being a
>> sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, but I found it
>> interesting reading, maybe some others will also...
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Sandy Blaize]

TOO MUCH, especially on weekends!   Shouldn't there be a small segment of 
the bands set aside for "non contest" use?  Or would this be asking too 
much??


73,
Sandy W5TVW



-Original Message- 
From: Scott Manthe

Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:05 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

Many contesters consider contesting "radiosport."

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 3/20/13 8:44 PM, Paul VanOveren wrote:

The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio being a
sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, but I found it
interesting reading, maybe some others will also...

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1002473/index.htm


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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Dale Putnam]

Now There's a great idea.. and equalizer... EVERY assisted op... must climb to 
the top of their tower(s) to start competeing, but they can't do that until the 
contest starts... if they have more than one tower.. they must climb them 
all clear to the top... and be assisted... by the proper use of climbing 
safety equipment.After they get down.. then they can start competeing... all 
the unassisted ops... get to do the same.

Have a great day, 
 
 
--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 

 > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:10:50 -0400
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> From: n...@arrl.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> talk about exercise and danger  last time I was up at 50 feet 
> working on the tower, it was mostly exercise. Danger it was to the 
> antenna if you let go.
> Suppose if we add tower climbing races to the hobby, then it is a sport,.
> 
> bill/3
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[bill steffey NY9H]

talk about exercise and danger  last time I was up at 50 feet 
working on the tower, it was mostly exercise. Danger it was to the 
antenna if you let go.

Suppose if we add tower climbing races to the hobby, then it is a sport,.

bill/3

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Re: [Elecraft] Operational help for KX1

[Michael Babineau]

Mac :

In addition to Don's comments about ensuring that any external key (paddles or 
straight key) has a stereo plug,
I will add that if you are having some problems with the KXPD1, make sure that 
your finger and thumb are depressing
the KXPD1 paddles near the tips of the leaf springs.  When I haven't used the 
rig in a while I sometimes forget this and I do notice 
a difference in the reliability  of the keying with the KXPD1.  

Oh yeah,  as Don also mentioned the screw holding the KXPD1 needs to be tight 
enough to ensure a good ground connection 
between the KXPD1 paddle and rig. 

Best of luck

Michael VE3WMB (KX1, K1 & K2 builder / owner) 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Lew Phelps N6LEW]

"Athletic competition" is a subset of "Sport".  Wiki offers the following:

"...sport can be primarily physical (such as rugby or athletics), primarily 
mind (such as chess or go), predominantly motorised (such as Formula 1 or 
powerboating), primarily co-ordination (such as billiard sports) or primarily 
animal supported (such as equestrian sport)."

I submit that contesting includes most of the above elements of competitive 
sports:
- physical endurance; 48 hours nonstop requires as much training as distance 
running;
- mind, for certain;
- "motorized" in the sense that equipment plays a crucial role in the outcome;
- coordination (at least for CW).  

If you include wG0AT, Steve, the ham who activates difficult peaks using goats 
to carry his equipment, ham radio includes all possible elements of competitive 
sports. See: 
http://m.youtube.com/#/user/goathiker?&desktop_uri=%2Fuser%2Fgoathiker



Lew N6LEW







Typos courtesy iPad auto spell check

Mar 20, 2013, at 9:18 PM, "Gil G."  wrote:…
> 
> IMHO it is absolutely not a sport. Even if you are on a SOTA activation, the 
> sport you are doing is hiking, not Ham radio.
> Contesting is not a sport either. All you do is sit on your behind.. All that 
> is involved in Ham radio is moving your fingers and maybe lips a little.. I 
> can't even start to understand how it could be even remotely called a sport.
> 
> Gil
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Keith Heimbold]

Anything you can drink alcohol during and eat carne asada while doing is not a 
sport. Haha! 

But then again I used to play on corporate softball team and that is exactly 
what we did. I did consider softball a sport as people were very competitive, 
cursed a lot, tried tactics of intimidation and ridicule (ham radio does have 
that going for it), and people got hurt. I think physical exertion and risk of 
physical harm are the things that are lacking to convince me ham radio is a 
sport IMHO. 

For a long time I was thinking of combining snowboarding and DXing together as 
an activity. Maybe remote on top of Mammoth looking for a tree to hang an 
antenna and working DX, but even that would not be a sport. Much as I used to 
run long distance races (Oahu Perimeter run, half marathons, 20k, etc) but I 
don't really consider that a sport. Even the iron man in hawaii is not a sport, 
it is an endurance competition. Ham radio can be a competitive activity but it 
is mostly a great challenging hobby. 

Another thought, I have a couple family members whose company has major TV 
special effects and post production contracts with ESPN, CBS sports and the 
Bundesliga and others, so maybe I can ask them to poll their clients on whether 
they believe that ham radio is a sport. It would make for a very interesting 
discussion maybe on the Jim Rome show or sportscenter. Lol.

Keith
AK6ZZ 

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "Fred Smith"  wrote:

> Well it qualifies under 1/2/3/5a/5b you proved the point that it is thanks!
> 
> 
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
> K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kevinr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:59 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??
> 
> I looked up the definition of sport:
> 
> sport  (spôrt, sprt)
> n.
> 1. a.  Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and
> often engaged in competitively.
> b.  A particular form of this activity.
> 
> 2.  An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a
> set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
> 
> 3.  An active pastime; recreation.
> 4. a.  Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
> b.  An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
> c.  A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
> 
> 5. a.  One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of
> a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
> b. Informal One who accepts rules or difficult situations well.
> c. Informal A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
> 
> 6. Informal
> a.  A person who lives a jolly, extravagant life.
> b.  A gambler at sporting events.
> 
> 7. Biology An organism that shows a marked change from the normal type or
> parent stock, typically as a result of mutation.
> 
> 8. Maine See summercater. See Regional Note at summercater.
> 
> 9. Obsolete Amorous dalliance; lovemaking.
> 
> It looks like the first two definitions fit the exercise part of things.
> Definition three fits the RadioSport setting better.
>Kevin.  KD5ONS
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/20/2013 7:50 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
>> Queen Victoria's definition notwithstanding, anyone who runs 12 or 14 
>> hours straight in a CW contest has shown a great deal of endurance and 
>> if they're using a set of paddles, a good deal of physical skill.
>> 
>> The term "sport" has had an expanded definition for decades to include 
>> that which is not strictly physical. The "shooting sports" for 
>> example, aside from the biathlon, include activities that don't call 
>> for great strength or physical endurance, but can be very exacting, 
>> which can be demanding and exhausting in its own way.
>> 
>> Personally, I feel that calling contesting- at its most competitive 
>> and on the highest levels- "radiosport" is entirely appropriate.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Scott, N9AA
>> 
>> On 3/20/13 10:33 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>>> Like most of us in the 'west', I was raised with the idea that a 
>>> "sport" was
>>> something that required a great deal of physical skill and endurance .
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Fred Smith]

Well it qualifies under 1/2/3/5a/5b you proved the point that it is thanks!


73,
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P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2




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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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I looked up the definition of sport:

sport  (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1. a.  Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and
often engaged in competitively.
b.  A particular form of this activity.

2.  An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a
set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

3.  An active pastime; recreation.
4. a.  Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
b.  An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
c.  A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.

5. a.  One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of
a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
b. Informal One who accepts rules or difficult situations well.
c. Informal A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.

6. Informal
a.  A person who lives a jolly, extravagant life.
b.  A gambler at sporting events.

7. Biology An organism that shows a marked change from the normal type or
parent stock, typically as a result of mutation.

8. Maine See summercater. See Regional Note at summercater.

9. Obsolete Amorous dalliance; lovemaking.

It looks like the first two definitions fit the exercise part of things.
Definition three fits the RadioSport setting better.
 Kevin.  KD5ONS



On 3/20/2013 7:50 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
> Queen Victoria's definition notwithstanding, anyone who runs 12 or 14 
> hours straight in a CW contest has shown a great deal of endurance and 
> if they're using a set of paddles, a good deal of physical skill.
>
> The term "sport" has had an expanded definition for decades to include 
> that which is not strictly physical. The "shooting sports" for 
> example, aside from the biathlon, include activities that don't call 
> for great strength or physical endurance, but can be very exacting, 
> which can be demanding and exhausting in its own way.
>
> Personally, I feel that calling contesting- at its most competitive 
> and on the highest levels- "radiosport" is entirely appropriate.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
> On 3/20/13 10:33 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>> Like most of us in the 'west', I was raised with the idea that a 
>> "sport" was
>> something that required a great deal of physical skill and endurance .
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[Fred Smith]

Of course it is after someone completes a tough 2 day contest or trying for 
hours on end trying to work a DX enmity in a very poor region of the world for 
you.

Then it's hard to sit for a while and rag chew, but my age is telling on me and 
it's hard for me to complete a contest for a full 48 hrs not even close.


73,
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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 PM
To: Gil G.
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

Contesting, competition, field day competition, could qualify as sport?  

Reggie k6xr
Amateur radio 57 years
DXCC, RCC, WAC

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On Mar 20, 2013, at 6:18 PM, "Gil G."  wrote:

> Wishful thinking…
> 
> IMHO it is absolutely not a sport. Even if you are on a SOTA activation, the 
> sport you are doing is hiking, not Ham radio.
> Contesting is not a sport either. All you do is sit on your behind.. All that 
> is involved in Ham radio is moving your fingers and maybe lips a little.. I 
> can't even start to understand how it could be even remotely called a sport.
> 
> Gil.
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> On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Paul VanOveren wrote:
> 
>> The link is to a 1958 Sports Illustrated article, about Ham Radio 
>> being a sport. If you have seen it before, sorry for the bandwidth, 
>> but I found it interesting reading, maybe some others will also...
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Assembly Front Panel ­ Day 7

[Nick Palomba - N1IC]

Yes ­ I have seen this video and sadly it set my expectations that this
might be an easier job than it is :)

He makes it look really easy in this video but I got back to an earlier post
that I have been wanting to take my time and do a little here and there so I
could savor. I thought I would get it together in a weekend originally but
now I see that the time and effort it's taking me is much of the process of
enjoyment. I know that of course isn't what you meant by your post. Thank
you for sharing it with me and the alias I think it's a great video that I
might even copy when I'm done with a full end to end video of some type
because I enjoyed it so much.

Thanks again and have a great day,

-Nick




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Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

[N4OI - Ken]

   http://qrp.kd4ab.org/1999/990107/0008.html

Hey Wayne,   Not sure you were joking with that de-soldering process.  As a
POS field tech during the early 70's, I had to troubleshoot and repair
generation-1 mini-computers to the component level in grocery stores. 
Picture performing each of those desoldering steps while standing at a
checkout lane at a busy Ralph's, or sitting cross-legged on the floor of a
dirty office.  And don't forget the mods to the wire-wrap boards and fixing
the paper tape readers on the ASR-33 TTY consoles.  Those were certainly
[NOT] the days!  Thanks for the chuckle and memories! 

73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI 



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Re: [Elecraft] My new KX3

[Fred Smith]

Only one thing better if you still had "Your K3 and the KX3" at the same
time I love all of mine it's a horrible disease (The Elecraft) to acquire
and it's contagious!!




73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2




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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N8CEP
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:11 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] My new KX3

I resisted buying the KX3 until now. WOW what a radio! I never thought I
would find something to replace my favorite K2 but this is really it. What a
wonderful receiver it has! (I even like it better than the K3 I used to
own).

Congratulations to the whole Elecraft crew!  What an accomplishment!





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Re: [Elecraft] N0CE If cable for the P3

[Fred Smith]

I also had the very same service with the same results. Thanks Eric and all
the Gang at Elecraft now this a reason I changed to Elecraft and hope it is
always there.




73,
Fred/N0AZZ
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Fjeld
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:43 PM
To: k...@yahoogroups.com; elecraft posting
Cc: k3supp...@elecraft.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N0CE If cable for the P3

Wow, very fast.  I received the cable on Monday.  It sure is nice to have a
clean screen.

Excellent service.

Thank you,

Rich, n0ce

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  From: Gary Surrency 
  To: Richard Fjeld 
  Cc: k3supp...@elecraft.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:31 PM
  Subject: N0CE If cable for the P3


  We will send another bnc cable.

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  On 3/14/2013 9:19 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:



Hello,

(FYI; Apparently, I emailed 'Sales' by mistake.)

I just purchased and installed the SVGA board and now I have spikes on
the high side of where I am tuned to at times.  They stay fixed and I can't
tune to them. 

I have noticed if I reach around and wiggle the BNC connector just
right, I can reduce them for awhile.  

I'd like to get the replacement cable that I understand is a fix.

Thank you,

Richard Fjeld, n0ce 

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