Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Joe Moffatt
I do too just saying what I've been reading a lot.

Joe





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From: Phil Wheeler 
Date: 05/02/2016 4:03 PM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

Joe,

Crucial difference is that the KX3 system is
modular and the barefoot KX3 can be used very
effectively battery operated for SOTA, camping and
the like. I suspect the IC-7300 was not designed
for power efficiency :-)

So I see them as a very different class of rig.

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/2/16 11:48 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote:
> This is very true to me as well. One thing that I am seeing in several places 
> online right now is that the 7300 Icom is a big competitor to the KX3. A lot 
> of folks are saying that why spend the money for a KX3 when you can have a 
> panadapter, 100 watts, etc built in for much less money than the 
> KX3/PX3/KPA100 combination.
>
> This is relative to Elecraft and the KX3 in particular because this may turn 
> out to be a major competitor to the KX3 series, or not, but it is certainly a 
> relative discussion.
>
> Anyhow, I don't mean to hijack the list, but other products do affect 
> Elecraft and their users.
>
> Joe
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10

2016-05-02 Thread Vic Rosenthal
Not normal. Make sure the power supply voltage is stable and do the testing at 
13.8v.

Vic 4X6GP

> On 3 May 2016, at 5:10 AM, Bill Leonard N0CU  wrote:
> 
> I recently got a new K3s/10 built up and running. This week I ran some tests
> to get familiar with it and one test that surprised me was the high Tx IMD
> levels. I first noticed that the two tone waveform on a Tek o'scope showed
> flat topping starting at about 4.5 W. As the power level was increased the
> flat topping got worse. I checked the spectrum with my HP spectrum analyzer
> (on 14 MHz) and measured the following 3rd order IMD levels feeding a 1.1
> SWR:
> 
> 1 W: -36 dBc
> 4 W: -31 dBc
> 4.5 W: -33 dBc
> 6 W: -34 dBc
> 8 W: -25 dBc
> 10 W: -21 dBc
> 
> It was interesting that as the power was increased from 4.5 to 6 watts, the
> increased distortion didn't show up in the 3 rd order IMD, but rather the 5
> th and higher order products.
> Since I am new to Elecraft radios, I don't know if this behavior is expected
> or if there is something in my transmitter that needs to be checked out.
> I have built up a number of amps over the years and I am used to seeing flat
> topping start at, or a little below the maximum CW output power. My K3s puts
> out about 12 W max, so I was expecting the flat topping to start at about 11
> W.
> 
> Bill  N0CU
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Walter Underwood
I consider this group to be a great collection of well-seasoned hams (smoked 
hams?). I assume that a lot of us are Elmers. Elecraft equipment is the right 
choice for most of us, but I appreciate the comments on other gear, so that I’m 
ready to give a new ham a solid list of choices.

In backpacking, we say “hike your own hike”. Take the advice from your 
Elmer(s), but you are the one turning the knobs. Or touching the screen.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On May 2, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> I am really "Elecraft Centric", but I believe with good reason - Elecraft 
> gear is the "best in the business" by Sherwood ratings and the experience 
> showing the standings in international extreme contesting as well as being 
> the choice of DXpedition and contest operators.  Those facts say a lot to me.
> 
> I exempt the over $10K transceivers from consideration because those are not 
> within the realm of affordability by most hams that I am familiar with.  
> Similar performance can be had from Elecraft at half that price category.
> 
> I do like some limited discussion here about new transceivers just so we have 
> information about what new things the competition is doing.  It is also 
> interesting to note that the lesser priced transceivers do not have all the 
> features of the K3S or the KX3 by a rather large margin and the Sherwood 
> ratings continue to keep the K3S and KX3 at the very top of the list when $$$ 
> are taken into consideration.
> 
> So yes, I believe it is appropriate for some discussion of the features (or 
> lack thereof) on the competition's announcements to take place - but it 
> should not be carried away with long extended threads.  If the competitive 
> offering peaks your interest, then take extended discussion of the pros and 
> cons of that offering to the manufacturer's forums.
> 
> Unless something different comes along, the K3S and KX3 are still 'top of the 
> line' IMHO, even considering the new "pizzazz" features being added by the 
> competition.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 5/2/2016 10:58 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
>> Well, the guys on the IC-7300 forum are fussing about all the Elecraft talk
>> over there...
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
I am really "Elecraft Centric", but I believe with good reason - 
Elecraft gear is the "best in the business" by Sherwood ratings and the 
experience showing the standings in international extreme contesting as 
well as being the choice of DXpedition and contest operators.  Those 
facts say a lot to me.


I exempt the over $10K transceivers from consideration because those are 
not within the realm of affordability by most hams that I am familiar 
with.  Similar performance can be had from Elecraft at half that price 
category.


I do like some limited discussion here about new transceivers just so we 
have information about what new things the competition is doing.  It is 
also interesting to note that the lesser priced transceivers do not have 
all the features of the K3S or the KX3 by a rather large margin and the 
Sherwood ratings continue to keep the K3S and KX3 at the very top of the 
list when $$$ are taken into consideration.


So yes, I believe it is appropriate for some discussion of the features 
(or lack thereof) on the competition's announcements to take place - but 
it should not be carried away with long extended threads.  If the 
competitive offering peaks your interest, then take extended discussion 
of the pros and cons of that offering to the manufacturer's forums.


Unless something different comes along, the K3S and KX3 are still 'top 
of the line' IMHO, even considering the new "pizzazz" features being 
added by the competition.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/2/2016 10:58 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

Well, the guys on the IC-7300 forum are fussing about all the Elecraft talk
over there...



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Re: [Elecraft] PX3

2016-05-02 Thread James Bennett
Dwayne,

Prior to the PX3 coming on the market, I used my KX3 with a software 
application called NaP3. Was nice having a huge display available (I use a 27" 
iMac) and the ability to mouse click on a signal at the opposite end of the 
band and instantly QSY there. But. After having the PX3 I never went back 
to NaP3. The PX3 is small enough that when I want to use my KX3 out on the 
patio, in the family room, or wherever, the PX3 is small enough to bring along 
and still enjoy being able to use my "fish finder"!

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA
> On May 2, 2016, at 4:28 PM, dwayne rich  wrote:
> 
> I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is 
> it better to hook the kx3 to a computer?
> 
> Dwayne Rich
> NC4EM
> 
> 
> Dwayne
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
Well, the guys on the IC-7300 forum are fussing about all the Elecraft talk
over there...

Chas

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary
Smith
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:30 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

Folks,

Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the lengthy
threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for Elecraft products. I
personally find these threads irritating and here is why:

This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my
questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used as a
platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. 

I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my and
other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The only reason I
would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to hear information on
that manufacturer's radios.

Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec
reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios with
better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was considering the Orion
line. I had been disappointed with how that company at the time, was not
handling some of the long term complaints I was reading on their reflector
about a lack of updates and issues with end of life parts being soon
unobtanium. With that being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the
eHam forums and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this
reflector.

I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first
K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my pleasant
surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, often daily
contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize I wasn't
interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my needs and it was
made in America and I wasn't going to buy from overseas if what I want was
made here. That an option to buy a kit was included made it a lock for me to
buy the K3 kit with most all of the options available.

But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to hear
about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy discussions about
competitors products. I still consider that is the purpose of this forum and
I am bemused why people tout other equipment here, it's just bad form. I
would consider myself being rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and
started threads about how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.

Just my 2 cents.

73 to all,

Gary
KA1J


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Re: [Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10

2016-05-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
Bill,

This is not representative of K3S/10 performance. Either the LPA module is 
misadjusted or the spectrum analyzer is being overdriven. If you send the unit 
in we'll check it in our lab and make any adjustments required.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 2, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Bill Leonard N0CU  wrote:

> I recently got a new K3s/10 built up and running. This week I ran some tests
> to get familiar with it...


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[Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10

2016-05-02 Thread Bill Leonard N0CU
I recently got a new K3s/10 built up and running. This week I ran some tests
to get familiar with it and one test that surprised me was the high Tx IMD
levels. I first noticed that the two tone waveform on a Tek o'scope showed
flat topping starting at about 4.5 W. As the power level was increased the
flat topping got worse. I checked the spectrum with my HP spectrum analyzer
(on 14 MHz) and measured the following 3rd order IMD levels feeding a 1.1
SWR:

1 W: -36 dBc
4 W: -31 dBc
4.5 W: -33 dBc
6 W: -34 dBc
8 W: -25 dBc
10 W: -21 dBc

It was interesting that as the power was increased from 4.5 to 6 watts, the
increased distortion didn't show up in the 3 rd order IMD, but rather the 5
th and higher order products.
Since I am new to Elecraft radios, I don't know if this behavior is expected
or if there is something in my transmitter that needs to be checked out.
I have built up a number of amps over the years and I am used to seeing flat
topping start at, or a little below the maximum CW output power. My K3s puts
out about 12 W max, so I was expecting the flat topping to start at about 11
W.

Bill  N0CU



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Re: [Elecraft] PX3

2016-05-02 Thread wickedbeernut
I'm not sure it's a question of PX3+KX3 OR computer+KX3.  A computer can
still be connected to the KX3 (via the PX3) for use with logging / control
programs.

Elecraft needs to update the PX3 datasheet.  The PX3 is now much more than
just a panadapter.  

In addition to the spectrum and waterfall display, the PX3 supports up to
335 text characters ... 201 characters of received (decoded) text and 134
characters of transmitted text / text to be transmitted.  The PX3 can
receive text and buffer text to be transmitted at the same time.  The PX3
can store up to 50 text messages and 50 macros (PX3 and/or KX3
remote-control commands), each up to 95 characters.  Each messsage / macro
can be assigned to a keyboard key or key combination (with Shift, Alt or
Ctrl).

The current PX3 beta firmware (MCU 1.42, 3-22-2016) introduced a
"scratchpad" feature.  This is yuge!  The scratchpad feature allows you to
enter the other station's callsign once and substitute the scratchpad into
stored text messages using "\s".  This is analogous to the HRD / DM-780
 tag.  Yuge!

I'll take this opportunity to share my (ever-growing) PX3 Wish List.  Mouse
support is trivial given the existing keyboard support.  Logging support
will likely require a new (internal) "option board":

• Alternative to Insert Key and Ctrl-Insert Key Combination with Scratchpad
(e.g., Alt-i and Ctrl-i)
 - Some keyboards don’t have an Insert key
• Marker and Center Frequency Display with 1 Hz Resolution
• Mouse Support (e.g., Mouse-n-Click QSY)
 - using a single 2.4 GHz wireless dongle which supports both the keyboard
and mouse
• Logging
 - assumes a new memory or microSD (preferred) "option board" connected via
the existing PX3 SPI or I2C expansion interface
• Message Tags
 - recognize an optional tag at the beginning of each message (e.g., ":
Plano, Texas")
 - expand  (non-recursively) in other messages
• Automatic Callsign Recognition
 - regular expression:  ^([BFGIKMNTW]|[A-Z0-9]{2})[0-9][A-Z0-9]{0,3}[A-Z]$
• Remote Control Commands
 - #UP/#UPB marker move up
 - #DN/#DNB marker move down
 - #MAC macro read/set
 - #MSG message read/set

Joe
KF5WBO




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Robert Vargas-KP4Y via Elecraft
Guys,

Most of us all loyal Elecraft customers that love the company and their 
products. This type of post provides valuable feedback to Elecraft that will 
enable them to understand the type of feature that we would like to see in 
future products. Many of these features are only possible (at least 
economically feasible) using a direct-sampling SDR architecture. It would be 
very sad to see Elecraft fall behind the competition just because we gave them 
the false impression that we are too happy with our K3s and KX3s, combined with 
Elecraft's excellent customer support, to want to see technological innovation 
in their next generation of product. A good example of this would be Ten-Tec. I 
guess their clients didn't ask for more as long as they got the "legendary 
QSK". Of course, Wayne and Eric will not let that happen!

73,
Robert-KP4Y/W4

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> On May 2, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> I have to agree with AB7E here, I enjoy some of the off topic things,
> and for those that I don't, I delete...
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> Dave (NK7Z)
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>> On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 11:19 -0700, David Gilbert wrote:
>> Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already
>> laid 
>> out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con 
>> comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list.  For me, I
>> find 
>> it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as
>> long 
>> as such posts don't dominate the list.  I prefer not to live in a
>> silo.
>> 
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also have been thinking this lately
>>> If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate
>>> forum.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>From: Ken G Kopp 
>>>   To: g...@ka1j.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>>   Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric
>>> 
>>> Well-said, Gary ...
>>> 
>>> This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Ken - K0PP
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Ken, K0PP
 On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith"  wrote:
 
 
 Folks,
 
 Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the
 lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for
 Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and
 here is why:
 
 This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers
 to my
 questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it
 used
 as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft
 radios.
 
 I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length
 my
 and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer.
 The
 only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is
 to
 hear information on that manufacturer's radios.
 
 Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the
 TenTec
 reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer
 radios
 with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
 considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
 company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
 complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of
 updates
 and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With
 that
 being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam
 forums
 and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this
 reflector.
 
 I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my
 first
 K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my
 pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were
 frequent,
 often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to
 realize
 I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my
 needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from
 overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a
 kit
 was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most
 all of
 the options available.
 
 But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum
 to
 hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy
 discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is
 the
 purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other
 equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being
 rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads
 about
 how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.
 

[Elecraft] Need Advice - K3+

2016-05-02 Thread Johnny Siu via Elecraft
Hello Ed,
I have the feeling that K3S is transition model before any evolution product 
from Elecraft.  Or it is a way to extend the current K3 product life cycle - a 
classic business school case.
Hence, I tend to not heavily invest for a new K3S.  I did the KSYN3A upgrade 
which is crucial to the enhancement of performance.  The installation is easy.
73
Johnny VR2XMC

  寄件人︰ Phil Wheeler 
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 傳送日期︰ 2016年05月3日 (週二) 5:03 AM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice
   
That's working well for me, Ed.

73, Phil W7OX


On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote:
> I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.  It 
> seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am 
> about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc.
>
> In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed NI6S

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Re: [Elecraft] Icom, etc.

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Walker
There are often discussions on this reflector not about Elecraft's products.

Why pick on Icom?

mike va3mw


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L  wrote:

> Did you see Eric's take on this?
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
> > On May 2, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Doug via Elecraft 
> wrote:
> >
> > Do we really need to review off-brand rigs on the Elecraft web site?  It
> > seems like half of the posts in the past week refer to the Icom 7300.
> I  read
> > this mailing list to get information on ELECRAFT rigs, not Icom or any of
> > the other brands.  If you're so interested in Icom rigs, please post
> your
> > thoughts on the Icom reflector.
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> > Thanks and 73,
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3

2016-05-02 Thread David Davis
Absolutely one of the best radio purchase I have made. As others have noted the 
PX3 integrated really well with the KX3. Makes operation really smooth and 
eliminates the need for a PC. 

You will not regret it. 

Enjoy
David 
KG6MTI

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> On May 2, 2016, at 17:28, dwayne rich  wrote:
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> I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is 
> it better to hook the kx3 to a computer?
> 
> Dwayne Rich
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3

2016-05-02 Thread Phil Wheeler
Well worth the money, IMO, Dwayne. It's a class 
product and very well integrates with the KX3.


Only downside: Using the KX3 sans PX3, say for 
portable ops, now feels cumbersome :-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/2/16 4:28 PM, dwayne rich wrote:

I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is 
it better to hook the kx3 to a computer?

Dwayne Rich
NC4EM


Dwayne


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-02 Thread Kevin Stover

The standards go thusly.

TIA/EIA 568-A (T568A)

Pin 1 - white / green stripe

Pin 2 - green

Pin 3 - white / orange stripe

Pin 4 - blue

Pin 5 - white / blue stripe

pin 6 - orange

pin 7 - white / brown stripe

pin 8 - brown


TIA/EIA 568-B (T568B)

Pin 1 - white / orange stripe

Pin 2 - orange

Pin 3 - white / green stripe

Pin 4 - blue

Pin 5 - white / blue stripe

Pin 6 - green

Pin 7 - white / brown stripe

Pin 8 - brown


568B is predominant in the US. If you're making patch cables use the 
same standard on both ends.
If you're making a cross over cable use the "A" on one end and the "B" 
on the other. It really doesn't matter if you use a standard or not as 
long as both ends are identical...that is until someone else works on 
your network. I spent a week rebuilding 50 CAT6 runs that someone 
decided to use their own standard on.


I've got 'em memorized. I can also subnet IPv4 in my head.

I need a hobby.;-)



On 5/1/2016 9:53 PM, Byron Servies wrote:

There are 2 wiring standards for cat5/5e/6 cable into RJ45 style modular
plugs: EIA/TIA-568A and EIA/TIA-568B (aka T568A and T568B). They are
slightly different, and both work to gigabit speeds. You can mix them, but
in a data center, for example, they will try to stick with 1 or the other.


73, Byron N6NUL




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Re: [Elecraft] PX3

2016-05-02 Thread Bob N3MNT
Prior to the release of the PX3 I used a computer.  Since I got the PX3 I no
longer use the computer for anything but logging.  It's integration with the
KX3 allows it to do many more things than the computer could.  After the
upgrade to add keyboard functionality, it is even better.  You can do PSK31,
PSK63, and RTTY from the keyboard.  It also added 40+ more cw and digital
mode memories. 



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[Elecraft] K3+ v. K3S

2016-05-02 Thread Dauer, Edward
Ed ‹

That¹s what I did ­ kept the K3 and am adding upgrades (hence a K3+).

Unless you¹re interested in the experimental low frequency band, as I
understand it changing the synths alone gets you nearly there.  And
changing the synths is a snap to do yourself ­ no need to send it to
Elecraft.  I know.  I did it; and by way of things electronic, I am an
unsalvageable klutz.

Ted, KN1CBR



>
> On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote:
> > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.
>It
> seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I
> am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap,
> etc.
> >
> > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed NI6S
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[Elecraft] PX3

2016-05-02 Thread dwayne rich
I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is 
it better to hook the kx3 to a computer?

Dwayne Rich
NC4EM


Dwayne
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice

2016-05-02 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
There is an alternative approach.  I have an early K3 and found a version of 
the SW that does everything I like and I stopped updating.  My feelings go this 
way.  At some time I will send it in for some reason and have them bring it up 
to current.  Until then I am a very happy camper.  It is not broke so I won't 
attempt fixing it... NUF said.
Mel, K6KBE


  From: Fred Jensen 
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 Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice
   
U think you'll have more than 90%.  I installed the new synth myself. 
Second hardest part was disconnecting all the wires behind my 
"wireless," and the hardest part was reconnecting them.  You have to do 
that if you send it in as well.  The actual install was very 
straightforward and easy.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 5/2/2016 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote:
> I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.
> It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a
> K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP
> board swap, etc.
>
> In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?
>
> Thanks, Ed NI6S
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Re: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question

2016-05-02 Thread Jim Brown

On Mon,5/2/2016 1:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote:

My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with 
filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better.


There is no need to do that. Audio output stages are constant voltage 
sources -- that means they have a VERY low output impedance, typically a 
fraction of an Ohm. The impedance rating of a loudspeaker output stage 
is the MINIMUM impedance that the stage can drive safely. Any higher Z 
will work fine. A transformer would do three things 1) increase the 
headroom (max loudness) by about 2.5 dB (there's loss in the xfmr); 2) 
increase distortion at low audio frequencies (because most audio xfmrs 
aren't very good; and 3) deplete your bank account.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Icom, etc.

2016-05-02 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
Did you see Eric's take on this?
73, Mike NF4L


> On May 2, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Doug via Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
> Do we really need to review off-brand rigs on the Elecraft web site?  It 
> seems like half of the posts in the past week refer to the Icom 7300.  I  
> read 
> this mailing list to get information on ELECRAFT rigs, not Icom or any of  
> the other brands.  If you're so interested in Icom rigs, please post  your 
> thoughts on the Icom reflector. 
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> 
> Doug N7QS 
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[Elecraft] Icom, etc.

2016-05-02 Thread Doug via Elecraft
Do we really need to review off-brand rigs on the Elecraft web site?  It 
seems like half of the posts in the past week refer to the Icom 7300.  I  read 
this mailing list to get information on ELECRAFT rigs, not Icom or any of  
the other brands.  If you're so interested in Icom rigs, please post  your 
thoughts on the Icom reflector. 
 
Thanks and 73,
 
Doug N7QS 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 1 milliwatt calibration failed

2016-05-02 Thread C L Jonkers
Thanks to Olli - DH8BQA for the good advice to manually run the calibration. It 
worked.
73,  Neil NJ6L
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice

2016-05-02 Thread H Doug Plunkett
Lynn,

I haven't tried it with my KX3 but I'm an avid Appalachian Trail hiker and have 
run into several hikers with solar panels on top of their backpacks charging 
iPhones and weather radios as they hike. Not sure if the output is sufficient 
for us hams but it's probably getting there.

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> On May 2, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's been a while since I've been backpacking, but this got me to thinking
> 
> If you're actively hiking, you can't really hang a panel on your pack and 
> plan on it being pointed at the sun.  That means either staying put to charge 
> batteries, or bigger panels for faster charging, or bigger batteries for the 
> days you can't effectively charge, or something like that.
> 
> Is solar charging in this case even practical?  The bigger the panel, the 
> heavier the load.
> 
> A quick and dirty, conservative calculation suggests that the lithiums would 
> be good for a couple of days of "a few hours" at 5 watts.  Probably twice 
> that at "an hour or so."
> 
> 73 -- Lynn
> 
>> On 5/2/2016 9:02 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> If you don’t mind non-rechargeable batteries, AA lithium primary cells are 
>> the lightest option. They are about 0.5 ounce each, so a 3000 mAh set weighs 
>> 4 ounces. Carrying a spare set of those will be lighter than a solar panel. 
>> They are also 1.5 V, so you get 36 Wh from a set instead of 25 Wh from a set 
>> of 2500 mAh NiMh cell.
>> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar 
>> rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains.   My typical trip 
>> will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW.   5 watts is 
>> fine for CW
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice

2016-05-02 Thread Fred Jensen
U think you'll have more than 90%.  I installed the new synth myself. 
Second hardest part was disconnecting all the wires behind my 
"wireless," and the hardest part was reconnecting them.  You have to do 
that if you send it in as well.  The actual install was very 
straightforward and easy.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016
- www.cqp.org

On 5/2/2016 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote:

I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.
It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a
K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP
board swap, etc.

In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?

Thanks, Ed NI6S

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Pre-purchase questions

2016-05-02 Thread Fred Jensen
There is an option for all P3's to feed the video to a large monitor. 
It's called SVGA and may provide a keyboard connection as well. 
Recently, a TX power monitor option was announced.  I don't have either.


I bought my P3 primarily as a "toy," I thought it would be cool to be 
able to see where the activity was every now and then.  It's about as 
far from a toy as you can get now ... it's what I look at all the time. 
Spotting the where the guy is that the DX just called is easy, as is 
discerning which direction the DX is tuning.


Sadly, it does not work when I'm operating W7RN remotely since stringing 
60 or km of RG-58 from the IF output at the station to my P3 is sort of 
a non-starter. :-))


73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 5/2/2016 12:16 PM, Jerry wrote:

I'm looking to buy a P3 to go with my K3s.
Are the older P3's the same as the new ones or are there different hardware 
versions? I'm noticing some used P3's being offered recently for almost the 
same as new direct from Elecraft.
Thanks in advance.
Jer/AE4PB


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Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice

2016-05-02 Thread Ron Litt
had my k3 about three years now. I have always kept up with upgrades.
hardware and sw.

seems like the best way to protect my investment and keep it current.

I do the hardware upgrades myself.  saves shipping cost and time.  it is
not hard to do ur self.

ron

On Mon, May 2, 2016, 16:06 Phil Wheeler  wrote:

> That's working well for me, Ed.
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
>
> On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote:
> > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.  It
> seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I
> am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap,
> etc.
> >
> > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed NI6S
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Pre-purchase questions

2016-05-02 Thread Bill Frantz
There are some options available for the P3 including a 
power/SWR meter and an external monitor output (called the SVGA 
option). These can be retrofitted to all P3s.


In general, Elecraft leans over backwards to make upgrade kits 
available for older models. See their web site to check if there 
are any kits available for the P3.


BTW - I love my P3 and wouldn't be without it.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/2/16 at 12:16 PM, je...@carolinaheli.com (Jerry) wrote:


I'm looking to buy a P3 to go with my K3s.
Are the older P3's the same as the new ones or are there 
different hardware versions? I'm noticing some used P3's being 
offered recently for almost the same as new direct from Elecraft.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread lstavenhagen
I think the 7300 could intrude against the KX3 in the "base station
replacement" market, though. It's obviously an important enough market, in
fact, that Elecraft developed the KXPA100 with built-in tuner to augment the
KX3's attractiveness in that particular scenario. So I think the 7300 could
pose a significant threat if you happen to like the built-in panadapter and
touch screen etc.

An equivalent (using the term loosely of course) KX3 setup - rig + options,
KXPA100 amp + tuner, PX3 panadapter - is $3200 and climbing. So at half that
or possibly less, the 7300 could potentially become a problem for Elecraft
in that particular space.

Now, would I go with a 7300 instead, no, of course not, because I'm aware of
the superiority of Elecraft's rigs. But for those who aren't, this is
probably a market reality that I'm sure has Eric and Wayne's attention on
some level.

73,
LS
W5QD



Phil Wheeler-2 wrote
> Joe,
> 
> Crucial difference is that the KX3 system is 
> modular and the barefoot KX3 can be used very 
> effectively battery operated for SOTA, camping and 
> the like. I suspect the IC-7300 was not designed 
> for power efficiency :-)
> 
> So I see them as a very different class of rig.
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX





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Re: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question

2016-05-02 Thread WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft
Eddy, the transformers were made tor tube type amplifiers where the output was 
several thousand ohms and transforming was needed.  Some audiophiles still use 
tube amplifiers for mellow sounds from music, but the transistor output stages 
match either 4 or 8 ohm speakers directly and are fine for communications audio 
or ordinary tone deaf  listeners for music. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke,

  From: Phil Kane 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 4:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question
   
On 5/2/2016 1:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote:

> In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, 
> but I can't find them anymore!

Not necessary because today's audio amplifier designs do not require
matched impedances.  You are "good to go" with no further matching.
--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100  s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Wes

Same here.

On 5/2/2016 12:45 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

I have to agree with AB7E here, I enjoy some of the off topic things,
and for those that I don't, I delete...


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[Elecraft] Looking for 13 KHz Filter

2016-05-02 Thread Mitch Wolfson , DJØQN / K7DX

If anyone has a spare 13 KHz filter available, please mail me direct.

Thanks & 73,
Mitch K7DX / DJ0QN

Mitch Wolfson DJØQN / K7DX
10285 Boca Cir, Naples, FL 34109
Skype: mitchwo
USA: Home:+1-239-221-9600 - Mobile:+1-424-288-9171
Germany: Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436

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Re: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question

2016-05-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better.

Don't bother.  There is no benefit in doing so.

Modern audio amplifiers are essentially zero impedance sources
(current drivers).  The K2's 4 Ohm specification is based on the
audio power output for a given power supply voltage and distortion
level.

The LM-380 data sheet shows 2W at 12V with 3% distortion for a 4
Ohm load.  Move to 8 Ohms and you will get about 1.2W at 12V with
3% distortion.  If you want more power output into an 8 Ohms speaker,
increase the voltage to the LM-380 to 20V (yes, it's rated all the
way to 22V max).

If you don't want to modify the radio to supply 20V to the audio
amplifier (not a good idea ), you rally need to find a high
efficiency 4 Ohm speaker or use an external amplifier to get more
sound.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

On 5/2/2016 4:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote:

My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with 
filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better.
In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but 
I can't find them anymore! Really, I've looked at all the suspect places, including eBay 
and Amazon.
Any suggestions, I just want and easy, simple way to matching the two 
impedance's without losing power which would happen if I used a resister across 
the ICOM speaker. I know I can just drive a small audio amp between them, but 
that means more wires to power up the amp..
Thanks to all
73
ed  

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Re: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question

2016-05-02 Thread Phil Kane
On 5/2/2016 1:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote:

> In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, 
> but I can't find them anymore!

Not necessary because today's audio amplifier designs do not require
matched impedances.  You are "good to go" with no further matching.
--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] Sold K3, P3, KAT-500 station.

2016-05-02 Thread Quentin Schultze
Thanks all for your patience. What a wonderful group.

Quin, K8QS
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice

2016-05-02 Thread Phil Wheeler

That's working well for me, Ed.

73, Phil W7OX


On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote:

I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.  It seems 
cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am about to 
send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc.

In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?

Thanks,
Ed NI6S


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Phil Wheeler

Joe,

Crucial difference is that the KX3 system is 
modular and the barefoot KX3 can be used very 
effectively battery operated for SOTA, camping and 
the like. I suspect the IC-7300 was not designed 
for power efficiency :-)


So I see them as a very different class of rig.

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/2/16 11:48 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote:

This is very true to me as well.  One thing that I am seeing in several places 
online right now is that the 7300 Icom is a big competitor to the KX3.  A lot 
of folks are saying that why spend the money for a KX3 when you can have a 
panadapter, 100 watts, etc built in for much less money than the KX3/PX3/KPA100 
combination.

This is relative to Elecraft and the KX3 in particular because this may turn 
out to be a major competitor to the KX3 series, or not, but it is certainly a 
relative discussion.

Anyhow, I don't mean to hijack the list, but other products do affect Elecraft 
and their users.

Joe





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Re: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question

2016-05-02 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ed,

There is no need to match speaker impedances.  That may have been the 
case when audio output stages had output transformers, but it is no 
longer desired or needed.


The audio output stage is a low impedance source - which means that the 
available output is determined by the load.  You can get more power into 
a 4 ohm load than you can into an 8 ohm load.

The power is determined by the load.

A parallel example - consider the AC receptacle in your wall - it is a 
veery low impedance source.
If you plug in a 40 watt light bulb, enough current will be drawn to 
light that lamp to its full brilliance - drawing about 40 watts of power.
Now plug in a 25 watt bulb.  It will draw less current, but will still 
light to its full briliance -drawing only 25 watts.  The point here is 
that with a low impedance source, the output power is mainly determined 
by the impedance of the load, and no amount of Impedance matching is 
going to make a big difference.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 5/2/2016 4:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote:

My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with 
filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better.
In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but 
I can't find them anymore! Really, I've looked at all the suspect places, including eBay 
and Amazon.
Any suggestions, I just want and easy, simple way to matching the two 
impedance's without losing power which would happen if I used a resister across 
the ICOM speaker. I know I can just drive a small audio amp between them, but 
that means more wires to power up the amp..
Thanks to all
73
ed  
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] SteppIR antenna summary

2016-05-02 Thread j...@kk9a.com
I have used the 4el SteppIR at AI6V's (SK) Aruba home a few times. Being a
contester I had hardly ever operated on the WARC bands and I had an
absolute blast using the SteppIR on 12m and 17m. Unfortunately the SteppIR
quit working about a year ago and it has not been repaired. Two things not
mentioned in your summary is the wait for the antenna to adjust when
changing bands and that you cannot operate on two bands simultaneously.

John KK9A aka P40A

Bill Frantz frantz at pwpconsult.com
Mon May 2 14:16:47 EDT 2016

The responses about SteppIR antennas have died down so here is,
as promised, the summary.

Five people reported no problems with a total of 39 years of
experience. An additional responder had no problems, but did not
give the length of his experience. One of these responders is
near the ocean.

Another responder lives in coastal New England where he
experiences high winds, but reports no weather related damage.
He has not had a major ice storm, but did have damage from a
lightning strike.

Three people report failures in the EHU (the device that moves
the extensible antenna element), including one "out of the box",
two due to lightning strikes, and one due to an hour of 120 MPH
winds. Another reports having to lower the antenna 4 times since
2004 for unspecified repairs.

Several people point out that SteppIR has made significant
improvements over the last 15 years, fixing some of the problems
that caused early failures. One said that he had fewer problems
with his 13 year old SteppIR than he had had with a Butternut vertical.

Many say they get performance similar to what they would get
with a bunch of monoband Yagis. Some sing the praises of
crank-up/tilt-over towers to make antenna access easy.


My take on all this is that the SteppIR antennas are significant
mechanical devices, much more complex than multi and
monobanders. Since any antenna can fail, there should be a
repair plan for antennas. Given the time I've spent repairing my
wire antennas, SteppIRs don't seem to be particularly unreliable.

73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Blake
I do not have a clue David as I only have the KX3.  Elecraft support has 
acknowledged receiving the report so we will see what happens.

Michael Blake - K9JRI







> On May 2, 2016, at 3:45 PM, David Anderson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Michael, let us know when you hear anything back from them.
> 
> I wonder if the same thing happens with a K3? 
> 
> 73 from David GM4JJJ
> 
>> On 2 May 2016, at 18:41, Michael Blake > > wrote:
>> 
>> I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am 
>> seeing on my KX3.  I have forwarded the issue as a “bug” to Elecraft support.
>> 
>> Michael Blake
>> k9...@mac.com  > >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting 
>>> interaction?
>>> 
>>> Michael Blake
>>> k9...@mac.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake  wrote:
 
 When the TX Noise Gate is set to “On” with any gate level more than “00” 
 the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately.  Is 
 this by design?
 
 I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33
 
 Michael Blake
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[Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question

2016-05-02 Thread Eddy Avila
My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with 
filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better.
In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but 
I can't find them anymore! Really, I've looked at all the suspect places, 
including eBay and Amazon.
Any suggestions, I just want and easy, simple way to matching the two 
impedance's without losing power which would happen if I used a resister across 
the ICOM speaker. I know I can just drive a small audio amp between them, but 
that means more wires to power up the amp..
Thanks to all
73
ed
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice

2016-05-02 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
You’ll have more than 90% of a K3S if you have kept up with the mods and 
offered upgrades over time.

The main differences would be (1) an improved 4-layer RF board with a reduced 
noise profile, (2) improved (lower) IMD in the audio section of the new DSP 
board for speaker outputs (this was supposed to be made available for the K3, 
but nothing has been heard about it’s status), (3) “hard” switching to bypass 
the new tuner module, and (4) a fancier escutcheon.

Everyone’s mileage varies on this, of course.  I have elected to keep my 
fully-loaded and fully-upgraded K3 and not go through the exercise of 
"unbundling”  the installed options, selling the barebones K3, buying and 
rebuilding a K3S. and ending up in the hole financially.  I think the 
differences would be completely unnoticeable by most, even if it makes them 
feel better about their place in the world :-)

I’m saving the $$ involved and putting them in the 
whatever-the-next-major-Elecraft-radio-is piggy bank :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342




> On May 2, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Ed via Elecraft  wrote:
> 
> I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.  It 
> seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am 
> about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc. 
> 
> In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Dave Cole
I have to agree with AB7E here, I enjoy some of the off topic things,
and for those that I don't, I delete...
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On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 11:19 -0700, David Gilbert wrote:
> Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already
> laid 
> out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con 
> comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list.  For me, I
> find 
> it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as
> long 
> as such posts don't dominate the list.  I prefer not to live in a
> silo.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> > 
> > I also have been thinking this lately
> > If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate
> > forum.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    From: Ken G Kopp 
> >   To: g...@ka1j.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >   Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric
> > 
> > Well-said, Gary ...
> > 
> > This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM.
> > 
> > 73
> > 
> > Ken - K0PP
> > 
> > 73
> > 
> > Ken, K0PP
> > On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith"  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Folks,
> > > 
> > > Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the
> > > lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for
> > > Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and
> > > here is why:
> > > 
> > > This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers
> > > to my
> > > questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it
> > > used
> > > as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft
> > > radios.
> > > 
> > > I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length
> > > my
> > > and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer.
> > > The
> > > only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is
> > > to
> > > hear information on that manufacturer's radios.
> > > 
> > > Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the
> > > TenTec
> > > reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer
> > > radios
> > > with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
> > > considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
> > > company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
> > > complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of
> > > updates
> > > and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With
> > > that
> > > being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam
> > > forums
> > > and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this
> > > reflector.
> > > 
> > > I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my
> > > first
> > > K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my
> > > pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were
> > > frequent,
> > > often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to
> > > realize
> > > I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my
> > > needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from
> > > overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a
> > > kit
> > > was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most
> > > all of
> > > the options available.
> > > 
> > > But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum
> > > to
> > > hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy
> > > discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is
> > > the
> > > purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other
> > > equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being
> > > rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads
> > > about
> > > how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.
> > > 
> > > Just my 2 cents.
> > > 
> > > 73 to all,
> > > 
> > > Gary
> > > KA1J
> > > K3s #10622
> > > K3  #2382
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Re: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting

2016-05-02 Thread David Anderson via Elecraft
Thanks Michael, let us know when you hear anything back from them.

I wonder if the same thing happens with a K3? 

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 2 May 2016, at 18:41, Michael Blake  wrote:
> 
> I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am 
> seeing on my KX3.  I have forwarded the issue as a “bug” to Elecraft support.
> 
> Michael Blake
> k9...@mac.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting 
>> interaction?
>> 
>> Michael Blake
>> k9...@mac.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When the TX Noise Gate is set to “On” with any gate level more than “00” 
>>> the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately.  Is 
>>> this by design?
>>> 
>>> I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33
>>> 
>>> Michael Blake
>>> k9...@mac.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Elecraft] [RE: (OT): Trying to contact Ken Kopp

2016-05-02 Thread Ken G Kopp
Dave and I have "connected".  The error was mine. (;-)

Thanks for the bandwidth, and 

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Igor Sokolov

Nice bit about Ten-Tec on Elcraft reflector :)
I do not mind info about non Elecraft equipment in comparison with Elecraft 
equipment. IMHO this is not OT at all.


73, Igor UA9CDC


Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec
reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios
with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates
and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that
being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums
and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.



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Re: [Elecraft] KRC2 and KX3

2016-05-02 Thread Marcus Busch [DL1EKC]
Hi folks,

I'm trying to interconnect my KX3 and KRC2. I read the posts on this topic 
dating 
back to early March. The KRC2 is a very versatile unit allowing parallel 
operation of 
band filters via the BCD outputs and antenna relays the same time. So I would 
really 
like to get the KRC2 running with my KX3.

I have the basic KX3 interoperating with the KRC2, but I had to bridge D9 on 
the 
KRC2. Without this bridge serial comms via the KRC2 doesn't work here. Also the 
KRC2 
utility does not find my KRC2 with 19200 bd but with slower speeds.

I have jumpers W9, W10, W22, W23, W3 and W8 in, all others out.

These are my configurations:

1) KX3 with KRC2

KRC2 and KX3 set to 19200 bd -> works

2) KX3 + PX3 with KRC2

KRC2 is set to 19200 bd, PX3 to 19200 bd and KX3 to 38400 bd -> works

Comment: It seems the PX3 is relaying the rs232 comms to the KX3 with 38400 bd, 
which 
is indepentend from the PX3<->PC line speed. However, with the PX3 switched off 
but 
still connected in-line the KX3 RS232 speed has to be set to 19200 bd (passive 
pass-through). It took me quite some time to figure this out :-) .

3) KX3 + PX3 + KXPA100 with KRC2

KRC2 is set to 19200 bd, PX3 to 19200 bd and KX3 to 38400 bd. The RS232 
connection 
chain is PC - KRC2 - KXPA100 - PX3 - KX3.

KRC2 operation works, but I cannot operate the KXPA100. Upon setting pa mode to 
on 
the KXPA100 switches on. But after a few seconds the KX3 menu entry switches 
back to 
off, after a few more seconds the KXPA100 switches off.

Note 1: When I disconnect the KRC2 from KXPA100 AND set the line speed in PX3 
to 
38400 bd, KXPA100 operation works.

Note 2: If I leave the PX3 line rate at 19200 bd, serial comms from PC to KX3 
is 
disrupted as long as the KXPA100 is on.

I know all this is a bit confusing and I have no clue how to solve this. Anyone 
here 
can give an advice?

Thanks for Your time.

VY 73

Marcus, DL1EKC

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[Elecraft] P3 Pre-purchase questions

2016-05-02 Thread Jerry
I'm looking to buy a P3 to go with my K3s.
Are the older P3's the same as the new ones or are there different hardware 
versions? I'm noticing some used P3's being offered recently for almost the 
same as new direct from Elecraft.
Thanks in advance.
Jer/AE4PB

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice

2016-05-02 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
It's been a while since I've been backpacking, but this got me to 
thinking


If you're actively hiking, you can't really hang a panel on your pack 
and plan on it being pointed at the sun.  That means either staying put 
to charge batteries, or bigger panels for faster charging, or bigger 
batteries for the days you can't effectively charge, or something like that.


Is solar charging in this case even practical?  The bigger the panel, 
the heavier the load.


A quick and dirty, conservative calculation suggests that the lithiums 
would be good for a couple of days of "a few hours" at 5 watts.  
Probably twice that at "an hour or so."


73 -- Lynn

On 5/2/2016 9:02 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:

If you don’t mind non-rechargeable batteries, AA lithium primary cells are the 
lightest option. They are about 0.5 ounce each, so a 3000 mAh set weighs 4 
ounces. Carrying a spare set of those will be lighter than a solar panel. They 
are also 1.5 V, so you get 36 Wh from a set instead of 25 Wh from a set of 2500 
mAh NiMh cell.

On May 2, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt  wrote:

Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable 
power while backpacking in the mountains.   My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a 
few hours a day operating primarily CW.   5 watts is fine for CW



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[Elecraft] [OT]: Trying to contact Ken Kopp

2016-05-02 Thread Dave W8FGU

Sorry for the bandwidth folks...

Ken, I've sent a few emails over the past few months but I have a 
feeling they're ending up in the bit bucket. If you would, contact me 
via dave at w8fgu dot com or give me a call at seven three four - 
775.2636


Back to your regular programming ;-)

73,
Dave W8FGU

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Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice

2016-05-02 Thread Ken G Kopp
Hi Ed!

I took the same route with K3 #0056 and am very pleased.  Would do the same
again.

73

Ken - K0PP
On May 2, 2016 12:51, "Ed via Elecraft"  wrote:

> I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.  It
> seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I
> am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap,
> etc.
>
> In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed NI6S
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[Elecraft] Need Advice

2016-05-02 Thread Ed via Elecraft
I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.  It seems 
cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am about to 
send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc. 

In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go?

Thanks,
Ed NI6S
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Joe Moffatt
This is very true to me as well.  One thing that I am seeing in several places 
online right now is that the 7300 Icom is a big competitor to the KX3.  A lot 
of folks are saying that why spend the money for a KX3 when you can have a 
panadapter, 100 watts, etc built in for much less money than the KX3/PX3/KPA100 
combination.

This is relative to Elecraft and the KX3 in particular because this may turn 
out to be a major competitor to the KX3 series, or not, but it is certainly a 
relative discussion.

Anyhow, I don't mean to hijack the list, but other products do affect Elecraft 
and their users.

Joe


From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David 
Gilbert
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 1:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric


Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already laid
out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con
comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list. For me, I find
it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as long
as such posts don't dominate the list. I prefer not to live in a silo.

Dave AB7E


On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I also have been thinking this lately
> If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate forum.
>
>
>
>
> From: Ken G Kopp 
> To: g...@ka1j.com; 
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric
>
> Well-said, Gary ...
>
> This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM.
>
> 73
>
> Ken - K0PP
>
> 73
>
> Ken, K0PP
> On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith"  
> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the
>> lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for
>> Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and
>> here is why:
>>
>> This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my
>> questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used
>> as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios.
>>
>> I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my
>> and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The
>> only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to
>> hear information on that manufacturer's radios.
>>
>> Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec
>> reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios
>> with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
>> considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
>> company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
>> complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates
>> and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that
>> being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums
>> and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.
>>
>> I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first
>> K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my
>> pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent,
>> often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize
>> I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my
>> needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from
>> overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit
>> was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of
>> the options available.
>>
>> But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to
>> hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy
>> discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the
>> purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other
>> equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being
>> rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about
>> how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> 73 to all,
>>
>> Gary
>> KA1J
>> K3s #10622
>> K3 #2382
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread David Gilbert


Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already laid 
out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con 
comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list.  For me, I find 
it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as long 
as such posts don't dominate the list.  I prefer not to live in a silo.


Dave   AB7E


On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

I also have been thinking this lately
If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate forum.




   From: Ken G Kopp 
  To: g...@ka1j.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

Well-said, Gary ...


This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM.

73

Ken - K0PP

73

Ken, K0PP
On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith"  wrote:


Folks,

Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the
lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for
Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and
here is why:

This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my
questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used
as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios.

I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my
and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The
only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to
hear information on that manufacturer's radios.

Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec
reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios
with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates
and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that
being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums
and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.

I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first
K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my
pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent,
often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize
I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my
needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from
overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit
was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of
the options available.

But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to
hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy
discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the
purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other
equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being
rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about
how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.

Just my 2 cents.

73 to all,

Gary
KA1J
K3s #10622
K3  #2382
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[Elecraft] [OT] SteppIR antenna summary

2016-05-02 Thread Bill Frantz
The responses about SteppIR antennas have died down so here is, 
as promised, the summary.


Five people reported no problems with a total of 39 years of 
experience. An additional responder had no problems, but did not 
give the length of his experience. One of these responders is 
near the ocean.


Another responder lives in coastal New England where he 
experiences high winds, but reports no weather related damage. 
He has not had a major ice storm, but did have damage from a 
lightning strike.


Three people report failures in the EHU (the device that moves 
the extensible antenna element), including one "out of the box", 
two due to lightning strikes, and one due to an hour of 120 MPH 
winds. Another reports having to lower the antenna 4 times since 
2004 for unspecified repairs.


Several people point out that SteppIR has made significant 
improvements over the last 15 years, fixing some of the problems 
that caused early failures. One said that he had fewer problems 
with his 13 year old SteppIR than he had had with a Butternut vertical.


Many say they get performance similar to what they would get 
with a bunch of monoband Yagis. Some sing the praises of 
crank-up/tilt-over towers to make antenna access easy.



My take on all this is that the SteppIR antennas are significant 
mechanical devices, much more complex than multi and 
monobanders. Since any antenna can fail, there should be a 
repair plan for antennas. Given the time I've spent repairing my 
wire antennas, SteppIRs don't seem to be particularly unreliable.


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Dave Cole
Hi Gary, 

This will continue to happen until the moderator cracks the whip...

-- 
73's, and thanks,
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On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 12:29 -0400, Gary Smith wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the 
> lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for 
> Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and 
> here is why:
> 
> This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to
> my 
> questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used 
> as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. 
> 
> I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my 
> and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The 
> only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to 
> hear information on that manufacturer's radios.
> 
> Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the
> TenTec 
> reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios 
> with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was 
> considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that 
> company at the time, was not handling some of the long term 
> complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates 
> and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that 
> being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums 
> and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.
> 
> I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first 
> K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my 
> pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, 
> often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to
> realize 
> I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my 
> needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from 
> overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit 
> was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all
> of 
> the options available.
> 
> But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to 
> hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy 
> discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the 
> purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other 
> equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being 
> rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads
> about 
> how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> 73 to all,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
> K3s #10622
> K3  #2382
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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale: K3/100F, P3, and KAT500

2016-05-02 Thread Mike Gusky
Please contact me via email. I'm good in QRZ

Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft

I also have been thinking this lately
If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate forum.




  From: Ken G Kopp 
 To: g...@ka1j.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric
   
Well-said, Gary ...

This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM.

73

Ken - K0PP

73

Ken, K0PP
On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith"  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the
> lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for
> Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and
> here is why:
>
> This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my
> questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used
> as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios.
>
> I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my
> and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The
> only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to
> hear information on that manufacturer's radios.
>
> Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec
> reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios
> with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
> considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
> company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
> complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates
> and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that
> being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums
> and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.
>
> I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first
> K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my
> pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent,
> often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize
> I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my
> needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from
> overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit
> was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of
> the options available.
>
> But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to
> hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy
> discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the
> purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other
> equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being
> rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about
> how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
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> K3  #2382
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Re: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Blake
I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am seeing 
on my KX3.  I have forwarded the issue as a “bug” to Elecraft support.
  
Michael Blake
k9...@mac.com 






> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting 
> interaction?
> 
> Michael Blake
> k9...@mac.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake  wrote:
>> 
>> When the TX Noise Gate is set to “On” with any gate level more than “00” the 
>> VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately.  Is this by 
>> design?
>> 
>> I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33
>> 
>> Michael Blake
>> k9...@mac.com 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice

2016-05-02 Thread Todd
I've done this. For a 2 - 3 day trip, you'll be fine with some of the 
batteries that K9YC mentioned.
Bioenno is/was giving a discount to the active SOTA group.  In the past, 
on short trips I've found
that if you're not going to stay put in one area, then you wont need 
solar at all.  The LiFePO4's
will be plenty.  Until I started using the LiFePO4's, I used an 
Energizer XP8000, roll up thin film
panels (2 @10Watts), and the solar charger that the Buddipole guys 
sell.  It's what I had from
days of playing out in the hills.  The Energizer is slick in that it 
will take 19V from the panels
and charge, while also providing several outputs for laptop, cell 
phones, radios, etc. Kinda

pricey though.

I stay with the 12.6V LiFePO4's. When not playing radio, can be used for 
other camp

chores/duties like LED lighting, cell phone, camera, etc etc

Have fun.

73, Todd KH2TJ


Joe Moffatt wrote:

Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable 
power while backpacking in the mountains.   My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a 
few hours a day operating primarily CW.   5 watts is fine for CW


   

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[Elecraft] KPA500 commands

2016-05-02 Thread Joe K2UF
Is there a way to cable the K3/P3/KPA500 to send KPA500 macro commands via
the P3/SVGA macro utility.
 
73  Joe K2UF 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Dick Dickinson
Other than my mobile rig, I run Elecraft.  I appreciate being able to keep
up with the news regarding Elecraft products.

 

However I appreciate that Eric has chosen to let this reflector be somewhat
open to general radio topics.  By nature that sometimes includes discussion
of non-Elecraft products.

 

I have seen this reflector as much of being a 'club' rather than a forum
with a strictly focused on Elecraft.  That factor may be useful for many,
particularly newer operators who might have questions along the lines of
antennas, operating circumstances and conventions, as well as accessories
(Elecraft or other).  

 

I know it would be awkward for me to manage the forum via email.  I choose
to view it via qth.com/pipermail.  This is very easy and manageable for me.
I mostly keep up with the forum in a linear, time wise fashion.  That my
browser highlights the last read post after I've selected it, I always know
where I've left off.  http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft... is sent
as my homepage for my browser.  Your experience may differ.

 

I'd like to encourage Eric and the powers that be to continue the somewhat
open perspective here, though I realize that one's mode of reception of the
posts may cause consternation for some.  

 

Were I to offer complaint on content, it might be when people begin to
hammer at length on matters having to do with 'my radio is better than
theirs' when it relates to items well to the right of the decimal point.  

 

In general, I think the somewhat open approach that has been allowed serves
amateur radio and Elecraft well.

 

 

73,

Dick - KA5KKT  

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Its within list guidelines for -short-  discussions on topics only 
peripherally related to Elecraft topics, but extended discussions pro/con etc on 
competition etc should be limited here to a few posts and then taken to direct 
personal email. Its certainly pertinent info on other products to be posted,m 
but we do not want that to dominate list traffic.


Our goal is to first and foremost provide a forum for discussions of Elecraft 
products, third party products for Elecraft rigs and discussion of related 
technologies.  We purposely do not 100% limit postings to Elecraft products 
since both we and many readers benefit from these outside topics, including 
competitive analysis. But when these OT threads get past 5-10 postings, please 
limit them and take the conversation off list in the interest of keeping the 
volume of list postings under control.


73,

Eric
List moderator and cheerleader
/elecraft.com/


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice

2016-05-02 Thread Ignacy
Probably the weight is a concern. 

You may use a foldable panel (e.g., 5W) and either charge internal
rechargables or external Lithium.I was frustrated with foldable panels
because of low output under less than perfect sun and poor reliability. 

The other option is to take enough Li-Ion batteries.  I prefer Li-ion
instead of LiFe-PO3 because of lower weight.   A 11.1V (12.6V peak) 5A
battery weights 300g (10oz) and should last a few days. Note that KX3 uses
almost half current at 5W if supplied with > 11V. 

Ignacy, NO9E



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[Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-02 Thread Peter Scovell

Thanks Tom.

I also find Adam's reviews very helpful as well as his work on advancing 
the NPR test method to bridge the legacy world (K3, etc) to the new 
family of DDC/DUC SDR transceivers.


I have found the odd comments by some other readers of this mailing list 
somewhat parochial in outlook in that they seem to want to see and hear 
only items relating to Elecraft gear and not be informed of other new 
and exciting developments occurring in our hobby. I have built and own 
many fine (and not so fine) Elecraft radios and test gear so in the 
main, I have a great respect for Elecraft equipment but not at the 
exclusion of other brands. I also own Flex, Yaesu, Elad and gear from 
many other manufacturers.


I encourage all Elecrafters to embrace new radio architectures and to 
avoid criticism of other companies who are trying to advance the hobby. 
I'm sure Elecraft will eventually adopt newer (and better) architectures 
and look forward to Adam's evaluation of such new kit.

--

73,

Peter VE3LTI

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Jim Brown

On Mon,5/2/2016 9:29 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

I don't like seeing it used as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non 
Elecraft radios.


I don't have that objection as long as it doesn't consume the reflector. 
I don't worship my radios nor the companies that build them. I do value 
input from others when it is intelligent and based on facts and logic. 
Because I own Ten Tec power amps (and used to own an Omni V+), I'm also 
a member of a Ten Tec reflector. Those guys DO worship their radios AND 
the company that bought the remains of the company that bought the 
company that produced them decades ago.


There will always be new products and advertising for them that claims 
they are the equal of the best of their competitors, or nearly as good 
for a lot less money. Where else will we learn the facts?  Certainly not 
from the cheerleading email reflectors for the companies that sell them!


SDR technology IS important to advancing the state of our art, and there 
are some pretty good SDR radios on the market now. Their capabilities 
are currently limited by the chips that are currently available, but 
that will not always be true.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Phil Wheeler

Gary,

Although I only use Elecraft gear at this point -- 
and have been in that situation since my first K2 
build increment in 1999 -- I'm always interested 
in what else is out there, and don't regard this 
reflector as "Holy Ground".


Nor have I seen any messages I would regard as 
saying "how wonderful" any other (non-Elecraft) 
rig is.


But, in the end, such judgments regarding 
acceptable content and topics are made by Eric.


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/2/16 9:29 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

Folks,

Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the
lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for
Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and
here is why:

This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my
questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used
as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios.

I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my
and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The
only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to
hear information on that manufacturer's radios.

Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec
reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios
with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates
and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that
being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums
and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.

I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first
K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my
pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent,
often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize
I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my
needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from
overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit
was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of
the options available.

But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to
hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy
discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the
purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other
equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being
rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about
how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.

Just my 2 cents.

73 to all,

Gary
KA1J
K3s #10622
K3  #2382


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Ken G Kopp
Well-said, Gary ...

This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM.

73

Ken - K0PP

73

Ken, K0PP
On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith"  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the
> lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for
> Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and
> here is why:
>
> This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my
> questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used
> as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios.
>
> I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my
> and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The
> only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to
> hear information on that manufacturer's radios.
>
> Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec
> reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios
> with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was
> considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that
> company at the time, was not handling some of the long term
> complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates
> and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that
> being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums
> and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.
>
> I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first
> K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my
> pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent,
> often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize
> I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my
> needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from
> overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit
> was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of
> the options available.
>
> But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to
> hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy
> discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the
> purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other
> equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being
> rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about
> how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
> K3s #10622
> K3  #2382
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Centric

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Smith
Folks,

Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the 
lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for 
Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and 
here is why:

This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my 
questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used 
as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. 

I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my 
and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The 
only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to 
hear information on that manufacturer's radios.

Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec 
reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios 
with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was 
considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that 
company at the time, was not handling some of the long term 
complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates 
and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that 
being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums 
and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector.

I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first 
K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my 
pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, 
often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize 
I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my 
needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from 
overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit 
was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of 
the options available.

But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to 
hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy 
discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the 
purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other 
equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being 
rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about 
how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was.

Just my 2 cents.

73 to all,

Gary
KA1J
K3s #10622
K3  #2382
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice

2016-05-02 Thread Jim Brown

Joe,

I'm not sure how exact you need info to be, but there's been a lot of it 
here, some of it from me. I and others have recommended LiFePO4 
batteries from Bioenno Power for this application. They had a booth at 
the Visalia hamfest last month.


https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/12v-series-lifepo4-batteries

This company is also a known good source.

http://www.batteryspace.com/128vlifepo4batterypacks.aspx

Both are small companies located in California, both are easy to talk to 
via email and land line, both are good to deal with. Both sell battery 
packs assembled from a Chinese factory with whom they have a direct 
relationship, in many sizes and shapes to fit all sorts of replacement 
applications.


I bought a 20Ah battery and charger from Bioenno Power.

73, Jim K9YC

On Mon,5/2/2016 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote:

Hey guys...

I tried to search through the list to find what I wanted, but I can't find 
exactly the info I think I need.

Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable 
power while backpacking in the mountains.   My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a 
few hours a day operating primarily CW.   5 watts is fine for CW

Anyhow, I am curious for recommendations.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice

2016-05-02 Thread Walter Underwood
If you don’t mind non-rechargeable batteries, AA lithium primary cells are the 
lightest option. They are about 0.5 ounce each, so a 3000 mAh set weighs 4 
ounces. Carrying a spare set of those will be lighter than a solar panel. They 
are also 1.5 V, so you get 36 Wh from a set instead of 25 Wh from a set of 2500 
mAh NiMh cell.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On May 2, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys...
> 
> I tried to search through the list to find what I wanted, but I can't find 
> exactly the info I think I need.
> 
> Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable 
> power while backpacking in the mountains.   My typical trip will be 2-3 days, 
> a few hours a day operating primarily CW.   5 watts is fine for CW
> 
> Anyhow, I am curious for recommendations.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> AB5OR
> Tupelo, MS
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[Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice

2016-05-02 Thread Joe Moffatt
Hey guys...

I tried to search through the list to find what I wanted, but I can't find 
exactly the info I think I need.

Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable 
power while backpacking in the mountains.   My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a 
few hours a day operating primarily CW.   5 watts is fine for CW

Anyhow, I am curious for recommendations.

Thanks,

Joe
AB5OR
Tupelo, MS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-02 Thread Bill Frantz
I find these connectors to be among the most reliable connectors 
I use. I use them for my home network, as well as various other 
places where manufacturer's have placed them (e.g. the IC706 mic 
connector in my 4Runner). The pigtail I use to connect my 
computer to the network is missing the latching prong on the 
computer end. Sure, it occasionally falls out, but if the plug 
is in the computer, the connection works.


I believe the K-POD knob will connect to the K3(S) with this connector.

On the unreliable end, I have had problems with 3.5mm audio 
plugs (not fully seated) and the 2.1mm power plug on the KX3 
etc. (exposed plus lead shorting and blowing fuses). However, 
the worst has been the AC power connector found on the rear of 
many pieces of equipment including monitors and computers. It 
allows the manufacturer to use different AC power cords for 
different wall plug conventions. After working, sometimes for 
years, it corrodes and fails to power the equipment. Unplugging 
and replugging doesn't fix it. Running a file down inside the 
female connectors usually fixes it. These connectors will be the 
first target for my new bottles of DeOxIt.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/1/16 at 4:36 PM, k6...@foothill.net (Fred Jensen) wrote:

"Click" is all we have to determine if it's seated, so I guess 
"Yes", that's all there is.  I'd try another cable.  My 
experience with RJ-45's is in large, tied bundles fanning out 
to a rack of routers or other devices.  Nothing moves, it's all 
tied down.  In single lots, RJ-45's leave a bit to be desired 
if there's any mechanical strain. They're crimped, with a 
special tool.  Some tools, like maybe what the ATT tech carries 
are good and do a reliable job, others from you-know-where ... 
maybe not so much.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2016-05-02 Thread Jim Rodenkirch
Kevin: with the assumption the net start time(s) are not geographic centric,
what are some of the "techniques" you would/did/think of altering/adapting
to??

71.5/72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV



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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

2016-05-02 Thread Wes

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mic-VOX-interaction-td7606353.html


On 5/1/2016 5:15 PM, Wes wrote:
Allow me to add a dissenting voice.  I found it much easier (with admittedly 
more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and the computer sound 
card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound card/USB interface.  There 
are other issues related to Mic/Line Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to 
Elecraft's attention 8 months ago and that reportedly were "discovered" by one 
of their engineers before my report and was going to be bumped up "the list."


If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up.




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[Elecraft] Another W2 question - 13.6v DC on coax

2016-05-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Hi again, if I were to feed 13.6v DC on my coax via a bias-tee would that 
affect a DC-V/U-200 sensor? 
The preamp at the top of the mast will take the DC off, but I’d prefer to put 
the sensor before the preamp if possible.

73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-02 Thread Jim Brown

On Sun,5/1/2016 7:30 PM, Michael Blake wrote:

Those specific connections are exactly what "RJ45" describe.


You are mistaken. RJ45 defines the CONNECTOR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RJ45

TIA/EIA-568A and 568B define pin assignments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIA/EIA-568

73, Jim K9YC


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