Re: [Elecraft] K3 build/KPA3 update - can someone measure for me...?
Thanks, Dick, found the problem, mine is now settled around 4K. Much appreciated... Jeff On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Dick Dickinson softb...@windstream.net wrote: I get about 3.6K across the input Anderson Power Poles of my early, but up to date K3/100. 73, Dick - KA5KKT -- Hi All, getting prepped for ARRL DX next weekend and so I decided to do the KPA3 update on my old K3 (#476). It involves replacing some pins between the RF board and the KPA3 module to prevent melting. I did the update and it went reasonably well. The last check is to measure resistance across the 12V terminals to make sure its not a dead short. The documentation says it should be over 2000 ohms, but I measure open circuit. Can someone check for me what they see across 12V terminals on a regular working K3? This is probably a pretty stupid question but since I didn't build this K3 I'm not sure what to expect. Thanks much, Jeff N6GQ/YN2AA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kin...@kinzlicoils.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 build/KPA3 update - can someone measure for me...?
Hi All, getting prepped for ARRL DX next weekend and so I decided to do the KPA3 update on my old K3 (#476). It involves replacing some pins between the RF board and the KPA3 module to prevent melting. I did the update and it went reasonably well. The last check is to measure resistance across the 12V terminals to make sure its not a dead short. The documentation says it should be over 2000 ohms, but I measure open circuit. Can someone check for me what they see across 12V terminals on a regular working K3? This is probably a pretty stupid question but since I didn't build this K3 I'm not sure what to expect. Thanks much, Jeff N6GQ/YN2AA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 build/KPA3 update - can someone measure for me...?
I get about 3.6K across the input Anderson Power Poles of my early, but up to date K3/100. 73, Dick - KA5KKT -- Hi All, getting prepped for ARRL DX next weekend and so I decided to do the KPA3 update on my old K3 (#476). It involves replacing some pins between the RF board and the KPA3 module to prevent melting. I did the update and it went reasonably well. The last check is to measure resistance across the 12V terminals to make sure its not a dead short. The documentation says it should be over 2000 ohms, but I measure open circuit. Can someone check for me what they see across 12V terminals on a regular working K3? This is probably a pretty stupid question but since I didn't build this K3 I'm not sure what to expect. Thanks much, Jeff N6GQ/YN2AA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build Tip
I was installing the Sub Receiver today and while I was in there I labeled both ends of the various interconnect cables. The little bit of effort now will make it easier next time I work on the K3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Boards and Speaker Day 10
Elecraft K3 Build Boards and Speaker Day 10 Assembly continues after the power on test everything was fine so let¹s finish up this rig build. I didn¹t have a full night to work so I¹m going to get as far as I could. Looks like there are a few boards that need to be installed that mount to the front heat shield and then a few more on the main board. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-boards-and-speaker-day-10/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Front Faceplate installation Day 8
Elecraft K3 Build Front Faceplate installation Day 8 So the build continues and since I was so unhappy with the last videos camera position and quality I tired something new that I believe worked out much better for your viewing. This part of the installation requires some patience as you have to really work on the knobs for sure but also the DSP board as well as taking the sides off and putting them back on after front faceplate installation. I¹m wondering why the decision was made to put them on in the first place if this step was coming and if they really did need to be taken off completely or just loosen to make this section work. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-front-faceplate-installation-day-8/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Assembly Day 6
Elecraft K3 Build Assembly Day 6 And so it starts Elecraft K3 World Famous Build I really expected the radio to not take it¹s form so quickly for some reason my expectation was that it would take much longer for it to actually look like a radio. I was really humbled my the pour out from people that I got on my refection¹s email regarding the type of feedback I was getting from others on this build. I really do love this Ham Radio community it has been part of my life for a long time and will continue to be with all the great feedback I have gotten. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-assembly-day-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Assembly Day 6
Its gents like Nick who documented their builds on the internet that gave me confidence to build 4912 a couple of years ago. I was a really inexperienced ham then (I still am in many facets) and would have bought a radio already built and ready to rock and roll. However, I learned from this list and on the internet that I could build one of these radios and I did and I am so glad I did. So a toast to Nick and his build, a toast to everyone who offers support on this reflector and a toast to Elecraft for a product line that understands the market that they serve. Cheers Don ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..- -Original Message- From: Nick Palomba Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Assembly Day 6 Elecraft K3 Build Assembly Day 6 And so it starts Elecraft K3 World Famous Build I really expected the radio to not take it¹s form so quickly for some reason my expectation was that it would take much longer for it to actually look like a radio. I was really humbled my the pour out from people that I got on my refection¹s email regarding the type of feedback I was getting from others on this build. I really do love this Ham Radio community it has been part of my life for a long time and will continue to be with all the great feedback I have gotten. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-assembly-day-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point (Page 6)
Yes this hobby is a bit harder to explain to people than some, they have a hard time understanding the satisfaction that comes from it. My son is one of those that thinks it's crazy to sit at the radio waiting for days or even a couple of weeks to try and work a DXpedition. Or trying to fix an old radio that has tubes in it and will not work as well as the ones I have 8) 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:00 AM To: 'Nick Palomba'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point (Page 6) The same thinking calls a waste of time: Building wooden boats. Making furniture. Restoring antique cars. Knitting a sweater. Planting flowers in the garden. Fishing or hunting. That's just a few to give you the idea. Never be staggered by the ignorance of others, nor allow it to influence your thinking. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick Palomba Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point (Page 6) Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point Ironically - Building the Elecraft K3 has let me to reflect. This K3 project is special to me and has drawn some interesting questions. I have been asked by several people including friends and coworkers and some outside my family what I did on my vacation days and when I tried to explain that I was working on building a Ham Radio - Elecraft K3 which I knew they would have no idea about the brand but I always take shot at it. The reaction has been staggering - so you are building something that is taking days if not weeks to do that you could have purchased all put together and ready to use by someone else. On top of that you are setting up camera and blogging about it. What a waste of time seems to be the consensus. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-continuing-reflection-point-page-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6168 - Release Date: 03/12/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6168 - Release Date: 03/12/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point (Page 6)
You know I have to say it's amazing the type of feedback I haven't from the Ham Radio Community on this post. I really feel energized with all the great feedback. Thank you all for the great emails!! De N1IC On 3/14/13 5:09 AM, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote: Yes this hobby is a bit harder to explain to people than some, they have a hard time understanding the satisfaction that comes from it. My son is one of those that thinks it's crazy to sit at the radio waiting for days or even a couple of weeks to try and work a DXpedition. Or trying to fix an old radio that has tubes in it and will not work as well as the ones I have 8) 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:00 AM To: 'Nick Palomba'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point (Page 6) The same thinking calls a waste of time: Building wooden boats. Making furniture. Restoring antique cars. Knitting a sweater. Planting flowers in the garden. Fishing or hunting. That's just a few to give you the idea. Never be staggered by the ignorance of others, nor allow it to influence your thinking. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick Palomba Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point (Page 6) Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point Ironically - Building the Elecraft K3 has let me to reflect. This K3 project is special to me and has drawn some interesting questions. I have been asked by several people including friends and coworkers and some outside my family what I did on my vacation days and when I tried to explain that I was working on building a Ham Radio - Elecraft K3 which I knew they would have no idea about the brand but I always take shot at it. The reaction has been staggering - so you are building something that is taking days if not weeks to do that you could have purchased all put together and ready to use by someone else. On top of that you are setting up camera and blogging about it. What a waste of time seems to be the consensus. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-continuing-reflection-point-page-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6168 - Release Date: 03/12/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6168 - Release Date: 03/12/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point (Page 6)
Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point Ironically Building the Elecraft K3 has let me to reflect. This K3 project is special to me and has drawn some interesting questions. I have been asked by several people including friends and coworkers and some outside my family what I did on my vacation days and when I tried to explain that I was working on building a Ham Radio Elecraft K3 which I knew they would have no idea about the brand but I always take shot at it. The reaction has been staggering so you are building something that is taking days if not weeks to do that you could have purchased all put together and ready to use by someone else. On top of that you are setting up camera and blogging about it. What a waste of time seems to be the consensus. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-continuing-reflection-point-page-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point (Page 6)
Nick, This reflects the sad state of the US psyche. To generations past buy or buy assembled would not even be considered. Their first reaction to a need was to make something from what materials they had on hand. Clearly this is anti-consumerism and not politically correct these days. Today the answer to everything is to buy. Making anything has become lost. Too bad, there is a lot of knowledge and satisfaction to be gained by making stuff. Also the present generation blogs everything. I have mixed feelings on this. It depends upon the quality of the blog and whether or not it has been done 100's of times before. My general impression of blogs is that they are Internet Pollution. Same for 95% of Youtube. Like all generalizations this one is false sometimes. I do know almost all advertising $$ is spent targeting 15-40 year olds. This is because those outside this range don't buy much. Perhaps it is the 40+ category that wear it out, use it up, do without or make it 73 de Brian/K3KO On 3/13/2013 14:02, Nick Palomba wrote: Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point Ironically Building the Elecraft K3 has let me to reflect. This K3 project is special to me and has drawn some interesting questions. I have been asked by several people including friends and coworkers and some outside my family what I did on my vacation days and when I tried to explain that I was working on building a Ham Radio Elecraft K3 which I knew they would have no idea about the brand but I always take shot at it. The reaction has been staggering so you are building something that is taking days if not weeks to do that you could have purchased all put together and ready to use by someone else. On top of that you are setting up camera and blogging about it. What a waste of time seems to be the consensus. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-continuing-reflection-point-page-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5669 - Release Date: 03/13/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5669 - Release Date: 03/13/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point (Page 6)
If I could offer my opinion, you _are_ wasting your time by asking opinions of those with no desire to create / build / repair anything. You will never get a positive response from those that have no idea what they are missing. Consumerism (the raw, ugly kind) rules the markets today, not creativity or the need to build. Where there is no spark, don't expect flame. Just my two cents' worth. Keep on buildin'! 73, matt W6NIA On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:02:22 -0500, you wrote: Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point Ironically Building the Elecraft K3 has let me to reflect. This K3 project is special to me and has drawn some interesting questions. I have been asked by several people including friends and coworkers and some outside my family what I did on my vacation days and when I tried to explain that I was working on building a Ham Radio Elecraft K3 which I knew they would have no idea about the brand but I always take shot at it. The reaction has been staggering so you are building something that is taking days if not weeks to do that you could have purchased all put together and ready to use by someone else. On top of that you are setting up camera and blogging about it. What a waste of time seems to be the consensus. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-continuing-reflection-point-page-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point (Page 6)
The same thinking calls a waste of time: Building wooden boats. Making furniture. Restoring antique cars. Knitting a sweater. Planting flowers in the garden. Fishing or hunting. That's just a few to give you the idea. Never be staggered by the ignorance of others, nor allow it to influence your thinking. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick Palomba Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Continuing Reflection Point (Page 6) Elecraft K3 Build Continuing - Reflection Point Ironically - Building the Elecraft K3 has let me to reflect. This K3 project is special to me and has drawn some interesting questions. I have been asked by several people including friends and coworkers and some outside my family what I did on my vacation days and when I tried to explain that I was working on building a Ham Radio - Elecraft K3 which I knew they would have no idea about the brand but I always take shot at it. The reaction has been staggering - so you are building something that is taking days if not weeks to do that you could have purchased all put together and ready to use by someone else. On top of that you are setting up camera and blogging about it. What a waste of time seems to be the consensus. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-continuing-reflection-point-page-6/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Parts Separation and Day 1 Build
Elecraft K3 Build – Parts separation and Day 1 Build So I will say upfront this is not the most exciting part of the build – I will say that I was not feeling 100% while working on this section so I didn’t get as far as I wanted and I also found that it’s pretty stressful trying to build, read, get things right and be on video ☺ http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-parts-separation-and-day-1-build/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Parts Separation and Day 1 Build
On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Nick Palomba nickn...@gmail.com wrote: Elecraft K3 Build – Parts separation and Day 1 Build So I will say upfront this is not the most exciting part of the build – I will say that I was not feeling 100% while working on this section so I didn’t get as far as I wanted and I also found that it’s pretty stressful trying to build, read, get things right and be on video ☺ I'm going to come clean and say that when I built my K3 back in late December, I skipped the inventory. I did scan through the stack and identify all the major components -- but I didn't open any of the bags until I needed them. This worked out very well, and I even had a few extra parts left over after assembly. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly! -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Parts Separation and Day 1 Build
I think that's a good strategy Sent from my iPad On Mar 11, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Bill Coleman aa...@arrl.net wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Nick Palomba nickn...@gmail.com wrote: Elecraft K3 Build – Parts separation and Day 1 Build So I will say upfront this is not the most exciting part of the build – I will say that I was not feeling 100% while working on this section so I didn’t get as far as I wanted and I also found that it’s pretty stressful trying to build, read, get things right and be on video ☺ I'm going to come clean and say that when I built my K3 back in late December, I skipped the inventory. I did scan through the stack and identify all the major components -- but I didn't open any of the bags until I needed them. This worked out very well, and I even had a few extra parts left over after assembly. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly! -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build Unboxing Page 4
In the continuing saga of the Elecraft K3 Build the package arrived last night but due to some other factors in the house I waited until first thing in the morning. One of the factors was I wanted to get my cameras out and setup for the unpacking of the radio. As many of you my wife and daughters find it a little strange at times that I¹m doing video production in the breakfast nook but we are short on space and I love to write my blog so I normally do these things in the morning when I¹m up before the rosters. http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-unboxing-page-4/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Build vs No-build
I changed the title. For the majority of hams Johnny is correct in his statement (below). I am trained to do sm repair and retired a little over a year ago. But I was relieved that I would not have a several-month assembly project like the K2, when I chose the K3-kit. Three days with 11-hours was enough and it went together superbly; I was amazed at the accuracy of the hardware alignment. I never got that level of precision on commercial radios, and often fought the injection molded plastic cases. K3 has real metal. I enjoy the design and building part of ham radio - reason one does not hear me on the air more often. I do assemble sm kits and it takes good eyesight, steady hands, and patience. Also good tools and soldering equipment (and skills to use them). The bottom line is that factory pcb assembly is typically robotic and able to produce higher accuracy/consistency/reliability than us humans. So if it can be had for a reasonable cost vs.performance I will often opt to buy it put-together, saving time and temper. But if it can not be just bought, it is also fun to make (within reason). Most of us hams are more system engineers than circuit designers, anyway. Buy a couple boxes and figure out how to hook them up. I think it is wise choice of Elecraft in the assembly philosophy for a radio as complex as the K3. But if you really want a challenge why not HB a 78-GHz transverter! LOL ;-) (Tip: invest in a set of precise calipers and a milling machine): Half-wave dipole is 1.9mm long) Ed - KL7 uW (I am only going to try up to 24-GHz) - Snipped from Johnny VR2XMC: However, due to the wide?use surface mount technology, it will be too difficult for an untrained amateur like myself to handle surface mount work for modern radio.? The modular design of K3 is something that I can manage. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-winter? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence
Gary, Thank you for the reply. I've downloaded the assembly manual and will look it over. So far I've received 23 responses to my initial message. Lots of good information. The reflector makes it easy go get help when needed. The initial order will be for a K3 and KAT3, then add the KPA3 and optional filters later on. I've decided not to install the General Coverage BPF Module or the 2 meter option and use a 2 meter/440 rig that I already have. 73, Dwayne, KE5EFY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence
Thanks Gary, Sounds like several good reasons to add the KXV3A to the initial build. I'll add it to the list. 73, Dwayne, KE5EFY From: Gary Hvizdak [mailto:garyhviz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:27 PM To: 'Dwayne Rohmer' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence Hi Dave, I didn't mention that the KPA100 ought to be very simple to add after the rig is built. I say ought to be because even if you buy it at the same time as the K3, you still don't install the module itself until after the base K3 has been calibrated. The only differences in the assembly procedure are when you install the shield, and whether the top cover stiffener is attached to the top cover or to the enclosure. I also didn't mention that the KXV3A would also require significant disassembly to add later, and that besides supporting the internal 2-meter transverter, the it provides several other useful capabilities: . It IF output connector is required should you ever want to get Elecraft's P3 panadaptor. . The RX antenna jack is perfect for connecting signal and noise generators (such Elecraft's mini-modules). . The transverter output connector makes it possible to specify low TX power levels down to 0.1 mW with 0.1 mW resolution. . You would want it if you intend to get Elecraft's PR6, external six meter pre-amp. If you ever change your mind, the General Coverage BPF module would be a snap to add later. Unless you've installed the sub-RX. 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 #2724 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 build sequence
Later this year, I plan to order a K3/10 Kit, KAT3 internal Antenna Tuner, and optional filters for CW, then add the 100 Watt Upgrade, General Coverage RX Bandpass Module, and other options as money allows. If possible, I'd like to avoid major disassembly for installation of future options by installing them in the initial build. Lesson learned with an old Thunderbird that needed a heater core replaced; half the insides had to come out just to get to the thing; don't want to do that again. Which options, if any, require major disassembly of the K3? Eventually I'll need SSB and 2 meter capability. Any recommendations for a first time builder would be appreciated. 73, Dwayne, KE5EFY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence
Hi Dwayne, SSB is already in the K3, no extra's are needed. (The mandatory 2.7KHz 5 pole filter will do the job for you initially, upgrade it later at your leisure) The 2M capability requires the KXV3A be fitted so it is probably a good idea to get that for the initial build. The 2m transvertor is a snap to install, it's a matter of 2 or 3 TMP cables + a power connection and your basically done once the KXV3A is there. Good luck with it and welcome to the Elecraft fraternity! Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF Innisfail, QLD, Australia Elecraft K3# 4257 - Original Message - From: Dwayne Rohmer To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:29 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence Later this year, I plan to order a K3/10 Kit, KAT3 internal Antenna Tuner, and optional filters for CW, then add the 100 Watt Upgrade, General Coverage RX Bandpass Module, and other options as money allows. If possible, I'd like to avoid major disassembly for installation of future options by installing them in the initial build. Lesson learned with an old Thunderbird that needed a heater core replaced; half the insides had to come out just to get to the thing; don't want to do that again. Which options, if any, require major disassembly of the K3? Eventually I'll need SSB and 2 meter capability. Any recommendations for a first time builder would be appreciated. 73, Dwayne, KE5EFY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence
Hi Dwayne, About the only option that gets in the way of others in the K3 is the KRX3 (the 2nd receiver), and you didn't explicitly mention that on your list. The 2nd RX must be removed to install the general coverage bandpass module in the main RX and to install additional filters in the main rig. But that said, removing the 2nd RX is about a 10 minute job, so even worst case it's not a big deal. Without the 2nd RX, I think you'll be astonished at how empty the K3 is inside. Adding options after the initial build really isn't much of a chore. It's closer to replacing the gas cap than replacing the heater core on that old T-Bird. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Dwayne Rohmer wrote: Later this year, I plan to order a K3/10 Kit, KAT3 internal Antenna Tuner, and optional filters for CW, then add the 100 Watt Upgrade, General Coverage RX Bandpass Module, and other options as money allows. If possible, I'd like to avoid major disassembly for installation of future options by installing them in the initial build. Lesson learned with an old Thunderbird that needed a heater core replaced; half the insides had to come out just to get to the thing; don't want to do that again. Which options, if any, require major disassembly of the K3? Eventually I'll need SSB and 2 meter capability. Any recommendations for a first time builder would be appreciated. 73, Dwayne, KE5EFY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence
Dwayne, Since you did not mention the SubRX, you can add those options in any order. The problem with the SubRX is that it sits on top of the main receiver, and must be removed to add options (such as filters and RX Bandpass) to the main. If you later choose the SubRX, make that one of the later additions and your task will be an easy one. Even the removal of the subRX is not a great ordeal, but it is a bother. SSB and all other modes come with the basic K3, there are no options involved for those modes. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/25/2011 7:29 PM, Dwayne Rohmer wrote: Later this year, I plan to order a K3/10 Kit, KAT3 internal Antenna Tuner, and optional filters for CW, then add the 100 Watt Upgrade, General Coverage RX Bandpass Module, and other options as money allows. If possible, I'd like to avoid major disassembly for installation of future options by installing them in the initial build. Lesson learned with an old Thunderbird that needed a heater core replaced; half the insides had to come out just to get to the thing; don't want to do that again. Which options, if any, require major disassembly of the K3? Eventually I'll need SSB and 2 meter capability. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence
I asked this same question before I purchased my K3/10 (now well tricked out BTW) and from my experience, and the comments I rec'd, it just doesn't matter. If you think you want the DVR, you might consider that with the initial build, as it requires removal of the front panel. But on the advice of others, I added it later, and the front panel was a snap to remove and replace. I put mine together since August, at about a module every other week on average. I can remove the top in about 3 minutes, blind folded. I had a lot of fun doing it this way and I got to enjoy each addition a little more since I only had one thing new to learn. And, I got to know the radio little by little instead of being overwhelmed by getting fully assembled at one time. You're gonna like the way it works. ...billnr4c -Original Message- From: Dwayne Rohmer [mailto:djcaroh...@ntin.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:30 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 build sequence Later this year, I plan to order a K3/10 Kit, KAT3 internal Antenna Tuner, and optional filters for CW, then add the 100 Watt Upgrade, General Coverage RX Bandpass Module, and other options as money allows. If possible, I'd like to avoid major disassembly for installation of future options by installing them in the initial build. Lesson learned with an old Thunderbird that needed a heater core replaced; half the insides had to come out just to get to the thing; don't want to do that again. Which options, if any, require major disassembly of the K3? Eventually I'll need SSB and 2 meter capability. Any recommendations for a first time builder would be appreciated. 73, Dwayne, KE5EFY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Build Questions
I am on pages 44 and 45 of the assembly manual and have made it through all the steps. In going through the resistance checks, I got the following values: - At the power poles (12VDC), all I got was an infinite resistance no matter which way I made the measured it. - At the R36 test point, I got 239.5 ohms which beats the 150 ohm criteria listed - At the U12 test point, I got 2 different values: a) 4.86 kilo-ohms at the terminal furthest from the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator b) 237.2 ohms at the terminal closest to the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator - At the U13 test point, I got the following: 423 ohms. Question: Am I okay to go ahead and apply power for the initial power on check (aka smoke test) on page 46? Please advise 73 Steve KC2VNI -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Build-Questions-tp4410947p4410947.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Questions
Steve, The instructions indicate that the listed values are the lowest that should be measured. The instructions state that greater values than those listed are quite probable. If the readings are not less than the listed values, all is OK. Greater than means that larger values are OK - smaller values are bad. - yours are OK. 73, Don W3FPR KC2VNI wrote: I am on pages 44 and 45 of the assembly manual and have made it through all the steps. In going through the resistance checks, I got the following values: - At the power poles (12VDC), all I got was an infinite resistance no matter which way I made the measured it. - At the R36 test point, I got 239.5 ohms which beats the 150 ohm criteria listed - At the U12 test point, I got 2 different values: a) 4.86 kilo-ohms at the terminal furthest from the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator b) 237.2 ohms at the terminal closest to the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator - At the U13 test point, I got the following: 423 ohms. Question: Am I okay to go ahead and apply power for the initial power on check (aka smoke test) on page 46? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Questions
Don: I was concerned with the value on U12. Depending on which terminal I was on, the resistance varied. I should have been more specific about the question. Sorry for the confusion. Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: Steve, The instructions indicate that the listed values are the lowest that should be measured. The instructions state that greater values than those listed are quite probable. If the readings are not less than the listed values, all is OK. Greater than means that larger values are OK - smaller values are bad. - yours are OK. 73, Don W3FPR KC2VNI wrote: I am on pages 44 and 45 of the assembly manual and have made it through all the steps. In going through the resistance checks, I got the following values: - At the power poles (12VDC), all I got was an infinite resistance no matter which way I made the measured it. - At the R36 test point, I got 239.5 ohms which beats the 150 ohm criteria listed - At the U12 test point, I got 2 different values: a) 4.86 kilo-ohms at the terminal furthest from the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator b) 237.2 ohms at the terminal closest to the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator - At the U13 test point, I got the following: 423 ohms. Question: Am I okay to go ahead and apply power for the initial power on check (aka smoke test) on page 46? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Build-Questions-tp4410947p4411259.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Questions
Also, I should have noted that I could not get a reading at the 12VDC side at all and that concerned me. Any significance there? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Build-Questions-tp4410947p4411263.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Questions
Steve, The only resistance reading that is defined in the manual is the regulator terminal furtherest from the electrolytic capacitor - and that measurement was OK. 73, Don W3FPR KC2VNI wrote: Don: I was concerned with the value on U12. Depending on which terminal I was on, the resistance varied. I should have been more specific about the question. Sorry for the confusion. Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: Steve, The instructions indicate that the listed values are the lowest that should be measured. The instructions state that greater values than those listed are quite probable. If the readings are not less than the listed values, all is OK. Greater than means that larger values are OK - smaller values are bad. - yours are OK. 73, Don W3FPR KC2VNI wrote: I am on pages 44 and 45 of the assembly manual and have made it through all the steps. In going through the resistance checks, I got the following values: - At the power poles (12VDC), all I got was an infinite resistance no matter which way I made the measured it. - At the R36 test point, I got 239.5 ohms which beats the 150 ohm criteria listed - At the U12 test point, I got 2 different values: a) 4.86 kilo-ohms at the terminal furthest from the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator b) 237.2 ohms at the terminal closest to the blue electrolytic capacitor in the neighborhood of the U12 regulator - At the U13 test point, I got the following: 423 ohms. Question: Am I okay to go ahead and apply power for the initial power on check (aka smoke test) on page 46? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.147/2628 - Release Date: 01/17/10 02:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Questions
Steve, An infinite resistance *is* a valid reading, and is OK. 73, Don W3FPR KC2VNI wrote: Also, I should have noted that I could not get a reading at the 12VDC side at all and that concerned me. Any significance there? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 build or buy
I purchased my k3 as a kit and with a little help from a sighted friend managed to build the basic k3 in about 22 hours total time. Not sure about the calibrations since I didn't have a reliable power meter at the time. However, for what its worth, a blind man can do it. Build and enjoy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build: seeking advice re: KRX4 and DVR
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: Do you suggest that the base K3 be completed first and then the subRX be installed, or should I do it all at once? Maybe the official K3 advice is in the box. Yes it's basically in the box but I agree with Al's excellent summary that the manual should be updated to install the KDVR3. IMHO the only really critical issue is to install the AUX RF cable in the initial build. If you didn't do that it would require some major disassembly to install the BNC and route the TMP cable. For some reason I wound up with an extra AUX RF cable from the first 2 units I built. When I got my 3rd (which doesn't have a KRX3), I installed the AUX RF cable so it will be an easy job if I decide to add a KRX3 later. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-build%3A-seeking-advice-re%3A-KRX4-and-DVR-tp2171758p2172878.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build: seeking advice re: KRX4 and DVR
The manual does include the KDVR3. See errata F2, item 3, available on the Elecraft WEB site here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Assembly_Manual_Errata_Rev_F-2.pdf The instructions for installing the KRX3 as part of the basic build were incorporated in the current manual (Ref F) last October. See pages 19, 36 and 66. The KRX3 is handled just like the KPA3. The procedure has you install the parts that are easiest done during the initial build, then you calibrate and test the basic K3 before finishing up the KRX3 installation. The KDVR3 is handled just like the KAT3, KBPF3, KXV3, etc. It's installed during the initial build, then enabled (made active) after the basic K3 is tested and calibrated. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:38 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 build: seeking advice re: KRX4 and DVR DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: Do you suggest that the base K3 be completed first and then the subRX be installed, or should I do it all at once? Maybe the official K3 advice is in the box. Yes it's basically in the box but I agree with Al's excellent summary that the manual should be updated to install the KDVR3. IMHO the only really critical issue is to install the AUX RF cable in the initial build. If you didn't do that it would require some major disassembly to install the BNC and route the TMP cable. For some reason I wound up with an extra AUX RF cable from the first 2 units I built. When I got my 3rd (which doesn't have a KRX3), I installed the AUX RF cable so it will be an easy job if I decide to add a KRX3 later. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-build%3A-seeking-advice-re%3A-KRX4-and-DVR-tp2171758 p2172878.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build Experience
Ordered my K3 Dec, 29th. I was told an assembled unit would be another week or so longer than a kit. That made sense, so I ordered the kit and saved a few bucks. I'm glad I did. I received the kit Jan. 14th. Built it the afternoon of the 14th and morning of the 15th. It took about 8-9 hours, about what was estimated on the Elecraft web site. Toughest part - finding the tiny #2 bolts in a separate envelope. I inventoried the hardware on the RF board, but didn't on the others as there were far fewer items in the bags for the front panel, etc. 2nd Toughest - the effort to mount the KPIO3 board for the 100 watt module. 3rd Toughest - Mating the front panel. The rest was easy and remember that items 2 and 3 were not as hard as finding the tiny #2 hardware :-) Goofs - Mount the plastic cover over the LCD display with the bevel out. Take off, re-do... On the rear bottom cover, remember 1/4 bolts are bigger that 3/16 bolts. Take off, re-do... Assembly is pretty easy as long as you take your time and make sure that the bolt you are trying to put in is the correct size. Everything worked great form the start. Un-intuitive operational command - this one stumped me. You can't transmit in CW unless the VOX is on. (There are exceptions, separate PTT or XMIT button, but you can't just hit the paddle to transmit.) I'm very pleased with the build experience and hope my notes will be a help to others. 73 de K1ESE John ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 build: seeking advice re: KRX4 and DVR
HI all... I am helping a neighbor assemble his K3. I have put a number of these together now, but none with the DVR and/or subRX. I think the DVR can go in with the initial build (comments)? Do you suggest that the base K3 be completed first and then the subRX be installed, or should I do it all at once? Maybe the official K3 advice is in the box. It just arrived at my qth tonight and all we did so far was an inventory. Thanks! de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build: seeking advice re: KRX4 and DVR
Two weeks ago I assembled my K3 ( serial 974 ) having waited until I received both my KRX3 and KDVR3 since I didn't want to have to keep removing and replacing the front panel to install each of them. I installed the KRX3 auxiliary DSP board on the main DSP board during the initial build as specified on pages 36 37 of the most recent assembly manual. While the K3 assembly manual doesn't make any mention of installing the KDVR3 during the original build ( hint hint for an errata ) since it mounts on the main DSP board I also mounted it when I mounted the KRX3 Auxiliary DSP board. The manual says to complete the initial assembly without installing the KPA3 or KRX3 ( page 61 62 ) due to essential tests and calibration procedures before the KPA3 module is installed . I therefore completed the initial assembly only installing the KRX3 auxiliary DSP board the KDVR3 board. I completed the tests and calibration procedures for the K3 and then installed the KPA3, did it's tests and calibration and then installed the KRX3. Since you don't need to remove the front panel to install the KRX3 the installation goes pretty quickly once you assemble the KRX3 shield install the KRX3 board inside it. While the wait for the KRX3 and then the KDVR3 was some 7 months from the time I received my KR100 kit I'm glad I waited as I put it together at one time with the minimal amount of disassembly and therefore the minimum amount of handling the circuit boards. PS. using a hint mentioned on the reflector, In installing the KPA3 I used a very small amount of Deoxit to lubricate the connectors on the RF board before mounting the KPAIO3 board and then lubricated the connectors on the KPAIO3 board as well before mounting the KPA3 module to the KPAIO3 board. Using this method both the KPAIO3 board and KPA3 module mounted with very little effort unlike many of the comments I've read from people who mounted the KPAIO3 board and KPA3 module Dry. I also did all of the recommended mods before starting assembly. I'm glad to say the build went perfectly with no missing parts and everything works 100%. So for me, waiting until I had everything necessary to complete the rig with all the options I wanted at one time was worth it. Al WB6HPF DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: HI all... I am helping a neighbor assemble his K3. I have put a number of these together now, but none with the DVR and/or subRX. I think the DVR can go in with the initial build (comments)? Do you suggest that the base K3 be completed first and then the subRX be installed, or should I do it all at once? Maybe the official K3 advice is in the box. It just arrived at my qth tonight and all we did so far was an inventory. Thanks! de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-build%3A-seeking-advice-re%3A-KRX4-and-DVR-tp2171758p2172245.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build Audio
K3/100 s/n 920 is built and on the air (although I have frustratingly little time to get on the air these days). The kit assembly went very smoothly; the only problem was a shortage of two of the 2-56 screws that hold on the LCD cover. It's probably my fault, but Elecraft sent replacements at no charge and I had them in a couple of days. I sorted all the hardware into little drawers in an old plastic parts cabinet I had, but in retrospect, I would not have bothered with that level of organization. I would suggest separating the various screws that differ by only 1/16 ahead of time, however, since this will save a lot of ruler time during assembly. Everything fit perfectly for me, and even the front panel assembly went smoothly. I think all the discussion of the front-panel difficulty had primed me for struggling with it for a half hour, but it actually took less than five minutes. Patience is required. It sounds like a 30-second step in the assembly, but be mentally prepared for a longer period of manipulation. I estimate that my total assembly time was about 8-10 hours, with lots of interruptions. I was pleased that not only did it power up perfectly at each step, but even the firmware update was as smooth as any computer-centered process I have ever encountered. I decided to try Ham Radio Deluxe with my new K3 and it couldn't have been more than 10 minutes between walking into the shack and having HRD up and running perfectly (including the download and installation process). Wonderful program, Simon. I also added a cover by Rose Kopp, which is a terrific accessory. As soon as I took the new cover out of the bag, my wife grabbed it and turned it inside-out to examine the stitching. She pronounced it first-class, and I agree. Rose is wonderful to work with, too. As someone who has worked in professional audio for 40 years, I am very sensitive to the audio quality of various radios. My old Collins 75A4 still sounds better than anything (except for the 60Hz hum), but the K3 audio is about the best of any current radio I have heard. I also have an Orion I, which I still like and plan to keep, but the K3 audio is much better. There are subtle distortions in most transceiver audio output stages that may measure pretty well, but are fatiguing during long periods of listening. I haven't used the K3 in a contest yet (and I'm a casual contester), but I predict that it will be a joy to listen to under those conditions. And the radio is so small and portable that I ran a length of coax from the shack to my office so I can bring the radio there for informal operating. Doug K3KW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 build
Hi all, Having built 3 K3's now just a little thought. It would be much easier to put the serial number sticker on *before* you fit the SO239 connectors. A small thing I know but hopefully useful. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 build report
Hi This seems the thing to do so here it is: The K3 was ordered on 8/17/2007 with a deposit Basic K3/100 2.8kHz 8 pole, 400Hz 8 pole, general coverage, FM Shipped 3/7/08 arrived at home QTH 3/13/08 by UPS S/N 0575 K3/10 build time four hours. Calibration and tinkering with menus 1 hour. Add KPA3 1 hour check out and calibration of KPA3 0.5 hr Total 6.5 hours Everything worked except I made one mistake mounting the standoffs for the front panel shield on the wrong side of the board. Easy fix required removing the front panel reversing the hardware and reinstalling the front panel. I did not realize the problem until I needed to install the bottom cover. I had one other problem with audio feedback when turning the AF gain up more than half way. Corrected problem by changing AF gain in Config menu to LO (it was set to HI) No other problems and I have to say the radio is a beautiful work of engineering both electronic and mechanical. Those of you waiting on yours or on the fence about buying one just hang in there or make the plunge. You won' be sorry. I have built everything Elecraft makes multiple times and the K3 is the easiest to assemble radio kit I have built even though it is the most complex electronicly Thanks Don BrownKD5NDB___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 build rate
Thanks for the update. In round numbers, output now seems to be around 200 per month, although Feb is a short month. ;-) For many, it must be like watching an old-fashioned egg timer - the big pile of sand on top with only a few grains at a time passing through the waist to exit at the bottom. I am glad that I now have mine, but I remember the long wait (8 months for mine). It's a great radio and once you get yours, the memory of the wait will begin to fade. But until then...it is tough while you're waiting. Just remember - everybody is staying in the queue for a good reason. Hang in there. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build rate
In a message dated 3/1/08 8:10:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In round numbers, output now seems to be around 200 per month, For many, it must be like watching an old-fashioned egg timer - the big pile of sand on top with only a few grains at a time passing through the waist to exit at the bottom. I am glad that I now have mine, but I remember the long wait (8 months for mine). Remember too that a lot of the wait was for the first production units to be completed. There were several months when none were shipped but many were being ordered, so the backlog was building; now it's been reduced. Perhaps the publication of the reviews and the record-breaking results of Ducie Island (at the bottom of the cycle, too!) will generate huge numbers of new orders. Meanwhile - where's that piggy bank? 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build rate
It looks like the delay between ordering and receipt has now dropped to just under 8 months (~7.9). I'm watching that number. It has to drop to 3 months by May, in order for me to receive mine as scheduled. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
Lee, you have no idea how jealous I am. With 2 kids still at KSU my K3 budget is nil. Maybe after one graduates in May. Bill NZ0T Lee Buller wrote: Well, after two evenings of building the K3 I got the power to it without smoke. Still have quite a bit to do, but I am taking my time. It has been enjoyable. The build is not hard, but I marvel at how the guys in Aptos put the puzzle together in the first place. A piece of professional engineering art. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Build-Comments-tp15683336p15702439.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
nz0t wrote: Lee, you have no idea how jealous I am. With 2 kids still at KSU my K3 budget is nil. Maybe after one graduates in May. Bill NZ0T Well, here's a little nugget of info to make it seem not so bad that you have to wait. I've heard rumours that there have been a few hardware mods made to the K3, unannounced on this list. They may or may not include changes to lower TX spurii on 5MHz, a mod to improve TX/RX turnaround times for modes like Amtor, and one to improve still further the close-in IMD performance. These mods would involve changes to SMD components on the board, so making them would be beyond the skills of most of us. The IMD mod has apparently been done on the ARRL's test rig, so the figures that are eventually reported in QST won't apply to those of us with unmodified rigs. When you do get to order your K3, it will have all those mods incorporated, so you'll have a better rig than those who have one now. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Build-Comments-tp15683336p15710215.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
When you do get to order your K3, it will have all those mods incorporated, so you'll have a better rig than those who have one now. I hope we're not trying spread some FUD. In the past Elecraft has made sure that any improvements are available to all. Every K2 ever built can be brought up to current standards. I can't imagine that the K3 will be any different. When all the dust settles from the initial K3 release, I expect Elecraft will figure out how to update any hardware that needs updating. Mark AD5SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
Mark Bayern wrote: I hope we're not trying spread some FUD. In the past Elecraft has made sure that any improvements are available to all. Every K2 ever built can be brought up to current standards. I can't imagine that the K3 will be any different. When all the dust settles from the initial K3 release, I expect Elecraft will figure out how to update any hardware that needs updating. Well, the K2 was built by the user component by component and is modifiable in the same way. The K3 is not. I agree with you that on past form it would be surprising if Elecraft did not publish details of the modifications so that users who wished and were able to perform them could bring their radios up to the latest spec. However, many K3 owners will not have the skills to perform these mods. I don't think that's FUD, just fact. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Build-Comments-tp15683336p15716024.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
Wayne has already made a comment to that egect on a mod to the KXV3 On 27/02/2008 15:38, Mark Bayern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: When you do get to order your K3, it will have all those mods incorporated, so you'll have a better rig than those who have one now. I hope we're not trying spread some FUD. In the past Elecraft has made sure that any improvements are available to all. Every K2 ever built can be brought up to current standards. I can't imagine that the K3 will be any different. When all the dust settles from the initial K3 release, I expect Elecraft will figure out how to update any hardware that needs updating. -- If all is not lost, where is it? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
G4ILO wrote: However, many K3 owners will not have the skills to perform these mods. I don't think that's FUD, just fact. With regard to the mods that I know about, they are easy. Someone who does not own a soldering iron or is uncomfortable can pay someone to do it for him. Just like he would with Yaecomwood. Except that the layout of the K2 is open, it's easy to disassemble, component density is low, and -- ultimately -- you will have complete documentation. I don't see why imaginable issue has to be cast as some kind of failure by Elecraft, when in fact they do a better job of meeting user needs in situations like this than anyone else. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
Since the radio is as modular as it is, and most of us actually did the assembly, swapping boards by mail to upgrade should certainly be a possibility. I can do some SMT work, so I'll certainly consider that, although I'm also a short, interesting, trip from Aptos. 73, doug Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:39:10 -0800 From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4ILO wrote: However, many K3 owners will not have the skills to perform these mods. I don't think that's FUD, just fact. With regard to the mods that I know about, they are easy. Someone who does not own a soldering iron or is uncomfortable can pay someone to do it for him. Just like he would with Yaecomwood. Except that the layout of the K2 is open, it's easy to disassemble, component density is low, and -- ultimately -- you will have complete documentation. I don't see why imaginable issue has to be cast as some kind of failure by Elecraft, when in fact they do a better job of meeting user needs in situations like this than anyone else. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
Vic K2VCO wrote: With regard to the mods that I know about, they are easy. Someone who does not own a soldering iron or is uncomfortable can pay someone to do it for him. Just like he would with Yaecomwood. Except that the layout of the K2 is open, it's easy to disassemble, component density is low, and -- ultimately -- you will have complete documentation. I don't see why imaginable issue has to be cast as some kind of failure by Elecraft, when in fact they do a better job of meeting user needs in situations like this than anyone else. I don't recall casting anything as a failure by Elecraft. I was merely pointing out an upside to ordering later that many might not be aware of. As to whether Elecraft does a better job of meeting user needs than anyone else, perhaps those who are still awaiting the implementation of features that have been on hold since the 2nd RX problems occurred (not to mention those awaiting the 2nd RX itself) might disagree with you. Nobody is suggesting they aren't doing the best they can (or at least I'm not) but only someone who has been on Mars for the last six months could agree that they are meeting everyone's expectations. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Build-Comments-tp15683336p15719389.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
Since the radio is as modular as it is, and most of us actually did the assembly, swapping boards by mail to upgrade should certainly be a possibility. This concept was one of the design considerations. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 and 0319 On Wed Feb 27 10:13 , Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 sent: I can do some SMT work, so I'll certainly consider that, although I'm also a short, interesting, trip from Aptos. 73, doug Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:39:10 -0800 From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4ILO wrote: However, many K3 owners will not have the skills to perform these mods. I don't think that's FUD, just fact. With regard to the mods that I know about, they are easy. Someone who does not own a soldering iron or is uncomfortable can pay someone to do it for him. Just like he would with Yaecomwood. Except that the layout of the K2 is open, it's easy to disassemble, component density is low, and -- ultimately -- you will have complete documentation. I don't see why imaginable issue has to be cast as some kind of failure by Elecraft, when in fact they do a better job of meeting user needs in situations like this than anyone else. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: Since the radio is as modular as it is, and most of us actually did the assembly, swapping boards by mail to upgrade should certainly be a possibility. How do you define most? I can do some SMT work, so I'll certainly consider that, although I'm also a short, interesting, trip from Aptos. You are indeed fortunate. But let's say someone doesn't have the skills to do the board swapsince most of us actually did the assembly, perhaps there is a consensus on how long it would take to disassemble, swap modular whatevers, reassemble and test. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
That obviously depends on which board. Swapping the RF board is going to be much more involved than replacing the KPA3, or SYN/REF boards. If I need a mod to my RF board, I would be more inclined to send the whole radio as a mod can likely be done while the radio is completely assembled, except for maybe the top and/or a bottom cover. Anything more than that I would just open the radio and unplug the effected board and mail that in an anti-static bag. I say this for me as my hands shake too much to work with SMT devices. Many out there with kits (note I said many and not all) would not have a problem doing a mod themselves. I'm sure Elecraft will make this process as painless as possible when the time comes. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 and 0319 On Wed Feb 27 10:30 , Thom LaCosta sent: On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: Since the radio is as modular as it is, and most of us actually did the assembly, swapping boards by mail to upgrade should certainly be a possibility. How do you define most? I can do some SMT work, so I'll certainly consider that, although I'm also a short, interesting, trip from Aptos. You are indeed fortunate. But let's say someone doesn't have the skills to do the board swapsince most of us actually did the assembly, perhaps there is a consensus on how long it would take to disassemble, swap modular whatevers, reassemble and test. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build Comments
Well, after two evenings of building the K3 I got the power to it without smoke. Still have quite a bit to do, but I am taking my time. It has been enjoyable. The build is not hard, but I marvel at how the guys in Aptos put the puzzle together in the first place. A piece of professional engineering art. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Build impressions
Welcome to the cult, I meanerr kit building experience, a.k.a. Mojo. It is interesting to hear you talk about the initial overwhelming amount of parts. With my K2 I did an inventory, and broke many of the parts out into containers for each stage. It was a nice sense of accomplishment watching the parts disappearing, and peeking ahead to see that tests were going to be run. I bought the K2 to have a quality CW radio that I could work on. I was blindsided by how fun the kit building experience was, and enjoyed it much more than I expected. - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 10:38 +, Stewart Rolfe wrote: Just finished putting K3 000145 together and as an Elecraft 'virgin' wanted to pass on some thoughts. The kit quality quite simply is superb. It all went together so smoothly and there was no pushing, bending, flexing necessary in order to get things to fit; screw holes just lined up exactly first time. The few 'gotchas' were always predicted and well documented and illustrated. Occasionally some hardware seemed to be missing but was discovered lurking (logically) in envelopes in other modules so remember to check before emailing Aptos. Almost the only tool I used was the larger of the 2 cross-head screwdrivers normally found in those little watchmaker kits; did every screw in the kit and fitted exactly each screw head and no temptation to over tighten. The fine tweezers came in handy later on for locating screws in the tighter spots before screwing down. When the kit arrived it took my breath away because of the number of modules and bags etc - I'd ordered the atu and 100w module in addition as well as a couple of filters. They soon disappear though as everything goes together, and it took 2 sessions of 3-4 hours each to get to the initial (qrp) testing/alignment stage. I do have a bone to pick with them though under trade descriptions as I did actually use my soldering iron to solder the terminals for the DC connector so it wasn't a completely 'no solder' experience...! I just know the build quality is going to be a portent of the performance quality. 73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build Comments and Questions SN101
Finished #101 in just a little over 6 hours including the 100W amp. The only test equipment needed was a VOM to check a couple of continuities. The only tools were a small phillips screwdriver, a 1/2 inch wrench for the encoder knobs and a small diagonal cutter to trim the leads on a few parts. The required allen wrenches came with the kit. Been playing all afternoon to figure out how to work it. Definite learning curve! The update of the firmware was very easy compared to my Orion which seems to take forever and requires multiple attempts. A cheapo, no-name USB to serial converter cable worked just fine. One nit - on operating split there doesn't seem to be a way to get the audio from one VFO in one ear and the other VFO in the other. It is like the Icom system where you have to switch back and forth between the two VFOs only hearing one at a time, then select SPLIT to transmit on the second VFO. Am I correct that dual audio is only available with the second receiver option? I recall hearing at Dayton that we would have to peak the bandpass filters but I saw nothing in the manual about doing that. I assume that step has been removed by tweaking at the factory. Back to 14.058 Craig Buck k4ia Fredericksburg, Virginia USA **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Build Comments and Questions SN101
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One nit - on operating split there doesn't seem to be a way to get the audio from one VFO in one ear and the other VFO in the other. It is like the Icom system where you have to switch back and forth between the two VFOs only hearing one at a time, then select SPLIT to transmit on the second VFO. Am I correct that dual audio is only available with the second receiver option? Yes. If you had this on another radio, then it had a second receiver! I recall hearing at Dayton that we would have to peak the bandpass filters but I saw nothing in the manual about doing that. I assume that step has been removed by tweaking at the factory. Yes. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build comments
I am 3 hours into the K3 build and a little more than half way through the manual. Here's some comments: 1. Wow - I can not believe how everything fits together, including the shipping package. Kudos to Wayne and Eric - you guys are incredible. 2. If you are worried about electronics, winding toroids, soldering etc. - forget it. Building the K3 is more like assembling an Erector set. I am looking forward to going back later and reading about what all the various modules are doing. Right now, I am just enjoying seeing it come together. 3. Lots of little screws, washers and nuts. You need to keep your head straight to be sure you keep the 3/16 apart from the 1/4. After a while, you can see the difference but in the beginning all the parts look the same. Also, I would have appreciated some larger pictures so I knew where I was supposed to be looking on the board. But, if you take your time, have a bright light and think about what you are doing, this is not difficult. 4. There is no warning when to remove the protective film from the LCD so I got past that point and had to disassemble. You want to leave it on as long as possible to protect the LCD, but it should be removed when you place the light blockers. I think I had the same issue with the K2. 5. There are 2 set screws in the concentric knobs and since they are tiny and black on black, they are hard to see. I could not figure out why my knobs would not slip over the shaft. Duh More tomorrow. Craig Buck k4ia Fredericksburg, Virginia USA **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build comments
I just finished my build on #106 and everything working fb except of course the NR with ver 1.42. One comment I might make is to temporarily screw down the 3 low power final transistors on the bottom of the RF board during construction. They kept catching on my ESD mat and twisting around during construction. Mike WA8EBM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Build comments
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[Elecraft] K3 Build
I've built two K3's in the past five days from production kits just as they are shipped to customers as part of an extended field test deployed by Elecraft. This is another example of Elecraft's diligent focus on their customers and quality across the range. Not surprisingly, K3 customers will be delighted, whether they ordered a kit or a factory-assembled unit. The K3 FAQ says build time is 7-9 hours and my experience was exactly that. Of course it depends on the options included, but most of them are trivial, if done along with the main kit. It also depends on your own skill and assembly speed. I tend to be a slower builder, lingering on every word in the manual, looking ahead, trying to foresee issues, etc. My K2 build time is longer than many. The first K3 I built, last Friday evening, was a K3/10, KAT3, KXV3, KBPF3, five roofing filters and the KPA3. It took about nine hours, of which 1.5 hours were spent doing a detailed inventory at the beginning. As most of you know, inventory time pays itself back immensely in reduced assembly time plus fewer errors and re-work. I built the second unit yesterday afternoon and it took less than seven hours, owing to my experience with the first one. In fact, I think I could build a complete K3 without the manual now! However, both builds took longer than normal because I was making copious notes in the margins of the manual for Elecraft engineering and production. Here is the time break-down on the K3 built yesterday: Inventory - 1 hour (starting from slitting the packing tape on the shipping box) Build K3/10 with KAT3 - 4.3 hours Inventory build KPA3 - 1 hour Inventory build KXV3 - 10 minutes Inventory build KBPF3 - 10 minutes The most time-consuming part of installing options is removing the top and both bottom covers (30-40 screws?), so if you can do them together or as part of the main kit, there is some time saved removing and installing covers. The quality of the assembly manual, the parts and the design is extraordinary. This is a class product. And when you're finished, the radio rivals most any on the market today at any price, manufactured in much larger facilities than the combination of Elecraft's modest kitting room and your home workbench. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Build Time
Anyone heard of the re-work eliminators? It seems that less and less of the K3 process is being left to the builder, and the user influence is becoming dangerously low with respect to the build. I am considering a startup operation to address this problem, costed initially as follows: K3 Reverse re-work eliminator (option 1) = send me your K3 and I'll diddle the band pass filters out of spec, sending you the radio and instructions on how that gets fixed. $10 + ship. K3 Reverse re-work eliminator (option 2) = all option 1 PLUS will remove all toroids, unwind them, and send you instructions on the winding PLUS extra new wire. $39.95 + ship. K3 Reverse re-work eliminator (option 3) = all options 1,2,3 PLUS will remove all the relays PLUS those pesky card edge connectors that are so much fun to install backwards the first time. This is the reverse re-work double pack. $49.50 + ship. New documents will be included in addition to the very clear original factory doc so you will be assured to get it installed the wrong way the first time. $65.00 + ship. If you purchase the entire reverse re-work eliminator package, it may take nearly as long as it takes to build a K2, to build a K3. If not, I have some more ideas - give me a little time. Contact wb8yqj_6 at Yahoo.com - order soon, orders placed today to ship on April 1, 2008. Tnx es GL, de wb8yqj... Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics
As owner of K2 No. 2005 I look forward to owning a K3 some time in the future. Nice job Elecraft! I haven't yet seen an estimated build time for the K3. The consensus seems the K2 is usually around 40-60 hours for the first time K2 builder. Because of the K3's modular plug in construction I would assume the build time will be much less. Any estimates on the build time? Also, I am curious as to how smart the K3 is in regards to self diagnostics for potential failures of various boards or components. Is there a significant amount of the routine (say compared to the K2) devoted to isolating and detecting faults and failures? And are the boards designed (and/or will Elecraft encourage) for the builder/owner to fix them on site? Or once a potential troublesome board is identified will we normally send it back for repair or exchange? The two items I like the most on my K2 (and other Elecraft product) is firstly the performance and at a close second is I never have to worry about being unable to fix, service, or align the radio. Of course, it is obvious the K3 retains both those qualities. Rick K4LX Bradenton, FL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics
As a prospective overseas purchaser of a K3 I think Rick raises a very interesting point. Given the nature of the K3 construction it would hopefully lend itself to a flexible repair philosophy. To give a couple of examples: The company I work for has been trying to get our customers, most of whom are used to fixing radios at the component level to move toward viewing the entire radio as the line replaceable unit (LRU) To say this causes some difficulties, usually political, would be an understatement, but faced with multi layer surface mount construction anything more than module replacement is pretty much out of the question, especially since the radio is all DSP from the second IF down. It is at the module replacement that the balance seems to be struck I have found. A similar situation occurs with amateur radio products. Once upon a time we all (most) got inside pulled tubes, swapped overheated out of tolerance parts etc now when it breaks, as they all do, we are told send it back, all of it, all 20-30 pounds/kilos and more. If I can with confidence and assistance determine which module is bad and pull that for shipment at probably less than 1 or 2 pounds weight then I am going to be a much happier camper, especially with overseas mailing rates. It is also often much easier on customs formalities , both import and export when dealing with modules as opposed to radios. If such a process is intended for the K3 then it just gained another $200-300 dollars perceived value in my book. Martin, HS0ZED p.s. Has anybody confirmed if the K3 will be at Friedrichshafen at the end of June? Rick Wheeler wrote: As owner of K2 No. 2005 I look forward to owning a K3 some time in the future. Nice job Elecraft! I haven't yet seen an estimated build time for the K3. The consensus seems the K2 is usually around 40-60 hours for the first time K2 builder. Because of the K3's modular plug in construction I would assume the build time will be much less. Any estimates on the build time? Also, I am curious as to how smart the K3 is in regards to self diagnostics for potential failures of various boards or components. Is there a significant amount of the routine (say compared to the K2) devoted to isolating and detecting faults and failures? And are the boards designed (and/or will Elecraft encourage) for the builder/owner to fix them on site? Or once a potential troublesome board is identified will we normally send it back for repair or exchange? The two items I like the most on my K2 (and other Elecraft product) is firstly the performance and at a close second is I never have to worry about being unable to fix, service, or align the radio. Of course, it is obvious the K3 retains both those qualities. Rick K4LX Bradenton, FL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics
Rick: A while back (well, several DAYS ago) I seem to recall seeing Wayne comment that his take on 'build time' was between 6 and 8 hours. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS At 09:03 AM 5/1/2007, you wrote: As owner of K2 No. 2005 I look forward to owning a K3 some time in the future. Nice job Elecraft! I haven't yet seen an estimated build time for the K3. The consensus seems the K2 is usually around 40-60 hours for the first time K2 builder. Because of the K3's modular plug in construction I would assume the build time will be much less. Any estimates on the build time? Also, I am curious as to how smart the K3 is in regards to self diagnostics for potential failures of various boards or components. Is there a significant amount of the routine (say compared to the K2) devoted to isolating and detecting faults and failures? And are the boards designed (and/or will Elecraft encourage) for the builder/owner to fix them on site? Or once a potential troublesome board is identified will we normally send it back for repair or exchange? The two items I like the most on my K2 (and other Elecraft product) is firstly the performance and at a close second is I never have to worry about being unable to fix, service, or align the radio. Of course, it is obvious the K3 retains both those qualities. Rick K4LX Bradenton, FL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics
A while back (well, several DAYS ago) I seem to recall seeing Wayne comment that his take on 'build time' was between 6 and 8 hours. He's faster than I am. It's taken me 3+ years and I'm *still* not finished :-) 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics
- Original Message - From: Martin Sole [EMAIL PROTECTED] A similar situation occurs with amateur radio products. Once upon a time we all (most) got inside pulled tubes, swapped overheated out of tolerance parts etc But theory was simpler then, also we could actually see the components :-) Simon HB9DRV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics
Like Ted Williams seeing the stitches on a moving baseball, some of us could actually see the electrons flowing from cathode to plate! We did this at night after trudging to school and back through 2' of snow... uphill both ways ;-) I loved the good ole days of circuit design, but I love today for different reasons. Larry N8LP Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin Sole [EMAIL PROTECTED] A similar situation occurs with amateur radio products. Once upon a time we all (most) got inside pulled tubes, swapped overheated out of tolerance parts etc But theory was simpler then, also we could actually see the components :-) Simon HB9DRV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics
With bare feet of course! Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Phipps Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:44 PM To: Simon Brown (HB9DRV) Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 build time and diagnostics Like Ted Williams seeing the stitches on a moving baseball, some of us could actually see the electrons flowing from cathode to plate! We did this at night after trudging to school and back through 2' of snow... uphill both ways ;-) I loved the good ole days of circuit design, but I love today for different reasons. Larry N8LP Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin Sole [EMAIL PROTECTED] A similar situation occurs with amateur radio products. Once upon a time we all (most) got inside pulled tubes, swapped overheated out of tolerance parts etc But theory was simpler then, also we could actually see the components :-) Simon HB9DRV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
