RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:41:37 -, Robert McGwier wrote: You cannot tell if it is a personal message or a group message easily. Easy solution. Set the filter to look for [Elecraft] in the Subject or Header (that is, include the brackets). My email software has been set that way for as long as I've been on the list, and it works fine. No changes when the distribution changed -- my Elecraft list mail still goes into my Elecraft box. Jim K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Hi, I get elecraft-bounces... in the From in all my Elecraft email. My subscription gets disabled for excessive bounces. I asked our sysadmin and he says there is nothing he can do. We changed our exchange server when we were acquired by a larger company, and that's when the problem started. Anyone else have this problem? Dan KF4KKF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:20 PM To: Pawlak, Daniel Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else seeing this? Or is it just me? If this is the new norm was an announcement made? If so I missed it. -- 73, Rod N0RC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
THAT IS THE ISSUE They have changed the headers coming from the Elecraft group SO THAT EVERY MESSAGE IS PERSONALLY SENT TO: YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS. You cannot tell if it is a personal message or a group message easily. It is awful. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature H... I went back and checked the original message I sent to the list and was addressed ONLY to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Really odd that somehow you got a personal reply too!! This just goes to reinforce my belief that the most challenging computer game ever invented was the personal computer itself. Ron AC7AC Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
How are we to tell when there is a personal message to us instead of the usual message to the Reflector? I find this new, improved (?) version of the mailing system to be far less than optimal. Kevin. KD5ONS On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:41:37 -, Robert McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THAT IS THE ISSUE They have changed the headers coming from the Elecraft group SO THAT EVERY MESSAGE IS PERSONALLY SENT TO: YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS. You cannot tell if it is a personal message or a group message easily. It is awful. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature H... I went back and checked the original message I sent to the list and was addressed ONLY to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Really odd that somehow you got a personal reply too!! This just goes to reinforce my belief that the most challenging computer game ever invented was the personal computer itself. Ron AC7AC Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
I don't think it is the way is was because I'm still getting two of everything. I didn't before and I haven't changed a thing at this end. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature At 09:54 PM 8/2/2004, Kevin Rock wrote... How are we to tell when there is a personal message to us instead of the usual message to the Reflector? I find this new, improved (?) version of the mailing system to be far less than optimal. It's apparently been changed back to the way it was, but in answer to your question, it's a simple matter of doing things in the correct manner. From:, To: and Subject: headers are, in general, unreliable and/or ambiguous indicators of the proximate message source. If a user sends a message to both the list and another user, then the recipient will get two copies via different routes. By proximate source, I mean to differentiate between a message received directly and one received via the list server. One possible method of reliable filtering has already been given. There are others. You need to identify and use a header which is unique to the proximate source. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Ron, I am replying to the original you just sent. I am using SBC Yahoo mail and before when I hit the reply to all, the only address in the TO: (of my reply) was 'Elecraft Discussion List'yada yada. Now a normal 'reply to all' and one message is sent to you and one to the list. 'YOU get 2, everyone else gets 1. In other words It's Still Brokein the sense that you don't have to fiddle around with a reply by removing the eMail address of the person you are replying to. Hell, I can't even understand what I just typed. Think I will wind some toroids to calm down.. 73, Art W6KY Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it is the way is was because I'm still getting two of everything. I didn't before and I haven't changed a thing at this end. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature At 09:54 PM 8/2/2004, Kevin Rock wrote... How are we to tell when there is a personal message to us instead of the usual message to the Reflector? I find this new, improved (?) version of the mailing system to be far less than optimal. It's apparently been changed back to the way it was, but in answer to your question, it's a simple matter of doing things in the correct manner. From:, To: and Subject: headers are, in general, unreliable and/or ambiguous indicators of the proximate message source. If a user sends a message to both the list and another user, then the recipient will get two copies via different routes. By proximate source, I mean to differentiate between a message received directly and one received via the list server. One possible method of reliable filtering has already been given. There are others. You need to identify and use a header which is unique to the proximate source. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
- Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature To avoid sending out duplicate messages, the new format requires me to delete the TO address, then copy and paste the CC to the list into the TO field, since the TO field must be populated to send the message. Not very friendly I must say. The reverse would be much better - list as the TO default and a cc to the original poster that could be erased if not wanted. I agree, the reverse would have been much more friendly. In fact, I have never seen a reflector behave as you describe, but it would be close to ideal. It is interesting that this isn't occurring on the other reflectors at qth. To tell the truth, I'm a little surprised that there is that much flexibility on a per list basis. 72/73 de WB8RCRhttp://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
On Monday 02 August 2004 08:14, John J. McDonough wrote: - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature To avoid sending out duplicate messages, the new format requires me to delete the TO address, then copy and paste the CC to the list into the TO field, since the TO field must be populated to send the message. Not very friendly I must say. The reverse would be much better - list as the TO default and a cc to the original poster that could be erased if not wanted. I agree, the reverse would have been much more friendly. In fact, I have never seen a reflector behave as you describe, but it would be close to ideal. It is interesting that this isn't occurring on the other reflectors at qth. To tell the truth, I'm a little surprised that there is that much flexibility on a per list basis. Note that even though this was not a reply to a meswsage I sent to the list, I received it adressed to me, as well as the list. Reply-To: John J. McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net List-Unsubscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft List-Post: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something is wrong in River City..errr, Altos,. or wherever QTH.NET is. -- John W2AGN http://w2agn.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Mike, I didn't say a thing about filters. But since you brought it up--Not all email clients are capable of isolating an email header such as List-Id. So To:, CC:, Subject:, possibly others, used alone or in combination, remain a more practical solution for most. For example in Outlook express I have a dozen or so filters: 1. mail sent To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets flagged and highlighted nothing more 2. mail from elecraft is IDed by To: and Subject: content, then sent to a folder (was Subject: only, that's how I noticed the change) ... Careful crafting of the rule, and proper positioning in the rule list makes everything happen just the way I want. -- 73, Rod N0RC - Original Message - From: Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a message as coming from a list. Most modern list servers add specific headers suited to identifying messages coming via the list. In this case, the best header to filter on is probably: List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net At 09:20 PM 8/1/2004, Rod N0RC wrote... Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else seeing this? Or is it just me? If this is the new norm was an announcement made? If so I missed it. -- 73, Rod N0RC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
H... I went back and checked the original message I sent to the list and was addressed ONLY to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Really odd that somehow you got a personal reply too!! This just goes to reinforce my belief that the most challenging computer game ever invented was the personal computer itself. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W2AGN Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature On Monday 02 August 2004 08:14, John J. McDonough wrote: - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature To avoid sending out duplicate messages, the new format requires me to delete the TO address, then copy and paste the CC to the list into the... Note that even though this was not a reply to a meswsage I sent to the list, I received it adressed to me, as well as the list. Reply-To: John J. McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net List-Unsubscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft List-Post: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something is wrong in River City..errr, Altos,. or wherever QTH.NET is. -- John W2AGN http://w2agn.net ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Ron, When the email you send is received by the reflector software, that software manipulates the email headers, and the message is forwarded on. A crude analogy would be how the ionosphere reflects HF radio signals. Hope that helps :-) -- 73, Rod N0RC - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:44 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature H... I went back and checked the original message I sent to the list and was addressed ONLY to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Really odd that somehow you got a personal reply too!! This just goes to reinforce my belief that the most challenging computer game ever invented was the personal computer itself. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
In your list administration options, you will find: Avoid duplicate copies of messages? When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list. Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from the mailing list; select No to receive copies. If the list has member personalized messages enabled, and you elect to receive copies, every copy will have a X-Mailman-Copy: yes header added to it. It appears that member personalized messages is enabled, however, as list admin for another mailman list, I can't seem to find that option. Both are running Mailman 2.1.4 At 8/2/2004 10:44 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: H... I went back and checked the original message I sent to the list and was addressed ONLY to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Really odd that somehow you got a personal reply too!! This just goes to reinforce my belief that the most challenging computer game ever invented was the personal computer itself. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W2AGN Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature On Monday 02 August 2004 08:14, John J. McDonough wrote: - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature To avoid sending out duplicate messages, the new format requires me to delete the TO address, then copy and paste the CC to the list into the... Note that even though this was not a reply to a meswsage I sent to the list, I received it adressed to me, as well as the list. Reply-To: John J. McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net List-Unsubscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft List-Post: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something is wrong in River City..errr, Altos,. or wherever QTH.NET is. -- John W2AGN http://w2agn.net ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else seeing this? Or is it just me? If this is the new norm was an announcement made? If so I missed it. -- 73, Rod N0RC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
- Original Message - From: Rod N0RC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else seeing this? Or is it just me? I'm seeing that. Hadn't noticed it since I have my filters set for To as well as CC. Looks like around 9AM eastern. 72/73 de WB8RCRhttp://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Well, I for one would never have noticed the change if my attention had not been directed to it. Can't see it makes a whole lot of difference. Jim W4ATK K2/100 4028 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a message as coming from a list. Most modern list servers add specific headers suited to identifying messages coming via the list. In this case, the best header to filter on is probably: List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net At 09:20 PM 8/1/2004, Rod N0RC wrote... Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else seeing this? Or is it just me? If this is the new norm was an announcement made? If so I missed it. -- 73, Rod N0RC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
On Sunday 01 August 2004 21:37, Mike S wrote: In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a message as coming from a list. Yeah, you could end up sending it directly to somebody that hadn't even posted on this thread. Can't figure how that happened. -- John W2AGN http://w2agn.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Using SBCGlobal.net mail, before when I hit reply to a thread, it only addressed the 'reflector'. Now this reply is going to the 'reflector' and whoever's message I'm replyig to. In this case, one direct to John (W2AGN) and the 2nd message thru the reflector. He will get 2 eMails of the same reply I've never seen a reflector addressed like this. ... I also vote no... Also, all the art-w6ky mail is mixed in with the EleCraft mail. 73, Art W6KY W2AGN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 01 August 2004 21:37, Mike S wrote: In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a message as coming from a list. Yeah, you could end up sending it directly to somebody that hadn't even posted on this thread. Can't figure how that happened. -- John W2AGN http://w2agn.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
It appears the owners of the Elecraft list have done more than change its name. They are also rejecting messages which never before were considered spam. I think QTH net is going the way of Monty Python: spam, spam, spam, spam, eggs and spam. On'y a 'ittle rat in it. Maybe things will straighten out by Monday. Kevin. KD5ONS On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 19:45:09 -0700 (PDT), Art-W6KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using SBCGlobal.net mail, before when I hit reply to a thread, it only addressed the 'reflector'. Now this reply is going to the 'reflector' and whoever's message I'm replyig to. In this case, one direct to John (W2AGN) and the 2nd message thru the reflector. He will get 2 eMails of the same reply I've never seen a reflector addressed like this. ... I also vote no... Also, all the art-w6ky mail is mixed in with the EleCraft mail. 73, Art W6KY W2AGN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 01 August 2004 21:37, Mike S wrote: In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a message as coming from a list. Yeah, you could end up sending it directly to somebody that hadn't even posted on this thread. Can't figure how that happened. -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
I have Outlook set to put anything with [Elecraft] in the subject line into the Elecraft message folder. That word is consistent, no matter what changes in the address fields. To avoid sending out duplicate messages, the new format requires me to delete the TO address, then copy and paste the CC to the list into the TO field, since the TO field must be populated to send the message. Not very friendly I must say. The reverse would be much better - list as the TO default and a cc to the original poster that could be erased if not wanted. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a message as coming from a list. Most modern list servers add specific headers suited to identifying messages coming via the list. In this case, the best header to filter on is probably: L ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature
Folks, I have not really seen a difference, but after looking the headers have changed. I filter on [Elecraft] in the subject line and that has worked well for me. 73, Don W3FPR - Original Message - In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a message as coming from a list. Most modern list servers add specific headers suited to identifying messages coming via the list. In this case, the best header to filter on is probably: List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
