Re: [Elecraft] K3 - simple HRD questions
Well, I got no answers - so I downloaded and installed the trial version and have answered my own questions. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD: MAC using VMWare + HRD, no waterfall display
I have the Tascam US122mkII running on MacOS 10.7.5 on a MacBook Pro. I'm running it on MacOS rather than Windows. It works, but I occasionally have to reboot the Mac to get the driver to properly connect with the Tascam. When it's not working, it looks like everything is connected properly, but there is a lot of noise and distortion in the signal. My problem frequently shows up if the Tascam is plugged in to the USB connection after the Mac is booted. Note that I haven't spent enough time chasing this issue to be really sure what is happening. 73 Bill AE6JV On 3/30/15 at 8:45 AM, challi...@gmail.com (Chris Hallinan) wrote: I'm trying to get my new K3 on the digital modes using HRD. On the advice from the good folks on this list, I purchased a Tascam US122 MK II. No regrets there, it's a great unit for the price. My setup has HRD running under VMWare on a Macbook Pro/Yosemite. I'm running latest Windows 8.1 with HRD in the VM. I am confident in the physical setup, as I can use fldigi natively on the MAC successfully. But, HRD displays no waterfall at all. Sometimes, I see RX activity on the built-in software sound card monitor within HRD, and HRD can in fact see my Tascam under sound card setup, but nothing i've tried will actually make it work. The waterfall display is always dark, indicating no incoming audio, even though the LEDs on the Tascam, indicate activity. Has anyone had success using this setup? Any recommendations for a path to success? Should i try another sound interface? (Don't have one presently.) Sould I ditch the MAC and buy a windows box (ouch)? --- Bill Frantz| Privacy is dead, get over| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | it. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Scott McNealy | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD: MAC using VMWare + HRD, no waterfall display
I'm not familiar with VMWare, but under Parallels, youhave to make sure that the various devices, e.g., theserial lines and/or audio codecs, that you need for HRDhave been assigned to Parallels (and Windows) so thatWindows can legally access them. It sounds like you've gotthat much at least partially configured. I'm assuming you have HRD 6.2.9.354 (which I have) or later. Does the HRD Rig Control come up properly, and does itfollow your VFO when you turn the main knob on your K3? On DM780, go into Program Options - Soundcard anddouble-check that it's looking at the audio device you thinkit should be looking at. (I use a SignaLink USB, so it showsup as USB Audio Codec; YMMV, and yes, I know better, but...). Also under Program Options, you might want to investigateSoundcard Calibration. I'm not convinced that that alonewould fix your problem, but it might give you a better idea asto which tree to bark up next. On the main DM780 window, click on Soundcard, which shouldbring up a couple of vertically oriented bar graphs - see ifthe receive one is behaving appropriately; you may need toadjust an input level on your Tascam or other device if it'sin Overload or barely bumping the thermometer. BTW, thereare some helpful tips in the info area in the lower right-handcorner of the Soundcard window. You might also need to go into the OS X settings to double-checkthat it isn't (also) trying to grab the Tascam and/or the K3's serial line,even if VMWare and Windows think they own them. I haven't looked at the HRD forum lately, but you might take a lookover there just in case someone with this particular configurationhas encountered this problem before. HTH and 73, Brandy, N1HO From: Chris Hallinan challi...@gmail.com wrote: But, HRD displays no waterfall at all. Sometimes, I see RX activity on the built-in software sound card monitor within HRD, and HRD can in fact see my Tascam under sound card setup, but nothing i've tried will actually make it work. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD: MAC using VMWare + HRD, no waterfall display
Thanks for all the helpful tips and information. Through more testing, it appears it's not DM-780 problem at all, but more likely a bug in the VMWare USB stack. I can get PC sounds to play through the device, but as soon as I change anything at all, the sounds stop working and nothing I can do except unplug and replug the device (virtually, using the VMWare Fusion Disconnect/Connect menu items) will make it work again. So, I will go chase down that avenue. I'm a paying customer of VMWare, so maybe it's time to submit a support request! Thanks again, Chris K1AY On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Bayard Coolidge, N1HO n...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not familiar with VMWare, but under Parallels, you have to make sure that the various devices, e.g., the serial lines and/or audio codecs, that you need for HRD have been assigned to Parallels (and Windows) so that Windows can legally access them. It sounds like you've got that much at least partially configured. I'm assuming you have HRD 6.2.9.354 (which I have) or later. Does the HRD Rig Control come up properly, and does it follow your VFO when you turn the main knob on your K3? On DM780, go into Program Options - Soundcard and double-check that it's looking at the audio device you think it should be looking at. (I use a SignaLink USB, so it shows up as USB Audio Codec; YMMV, and yes, I know better, but...). Also under Program Options, you might want to investigate Soundcard Calibration. I'm not convinced that that alone would fix your problem, but it might give you a better idea as to which tree to bark up next. On the main DM780 window, click on Soundcard, which should bring up a couple of vertically oriented bar graphs - see if the receive one is behaving appropriately; you may need to adjust an input level on your Tascam or other device if it's in Overload or barely bumping the thermometer. BTW, there are some helpful tips in the info area in the lower right-hand corner of the Soundcard window. You might also need to go into the OS X settings to double-check that it isn't (also) trying to grab the Tascam and/or the K3's serial line, even if VMWare and Windows think they own them. I haven't looked at the HRD forum lately, but you might take a look over there just in case someone with this particular configuration has encountered this problem before. HTH and 73, Brandy, N1HO From: Chris Hallinan challi...@gmail.com wrote: But, HRD displays no waterfall at all. Sometimes, I see RX activity on the built-in software sound card monitor within HRD, and HRD can in fact see my Tascam under sound card setup, but nothing i've tried will actually make it work. -- Life is like Linux - it never stands still. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD 6.0.3.135
There's a new version out, 6.1.2. I have it running with my KX3. Try it and see if you still have a problem 73, Barry K3NDM On 9/3/2013 8:09 PM, Bill wrote: I don't think these issues are a priority to the HRD folks. They have been well known and documented for a very long time and were among the bugs coming from the 5.xx versions. For that reason alone, I have stayed with a 5.xx version. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD 6.0.3.135
I have reported these as bugs through their Mantis system. What priority they get for a fix remains to be seen. - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, 3D2C, NCDXC, IDXG, K3-P3-KPA500-KAT500 Addict, Maui -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Basberg Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 2:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD 6.0.3.135 I tried noise reduction/auto notch/manual notch buttons and they do not change color to show engagement. I used the schemes available and they all had the same problem. I can see whether they are engaged on the K3 screen, so not such a big problem. But problem is there. 73 Doug N8VY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD 6.0.3.135
I don't think these issues are a priority to the HRD folks. They have been well known and documented for a very long time and were among the bugs coming from the 5.xx versions. For that reason alone, I have stayed with a 5.xx version. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD 6.0.3.135
Not singling you out Bill, but isn't a more appropriate place for HRD's shortcomings and lack of support on the HRD mailing list? I'm to the point of creating a HRD filter in my e-mail client. On 9/3/2013 7:09 PM, Bill wrote: I don't think these issues are a priority to the HRD folks. They have been well known and documented for a very long time and were among the bugs coming from the 5.xx versions. For that reason alone, I have stayed with a 5.xx version. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Hmm that's news to me ;) -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 3:38 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD I've logged a few bugs in HRD's bug tracking system about K3 rig control - among them some problems with buttons not properly toggling functions, not being highlighted as to state, the lack of a 6M and 2M band selection button, etc. So far a couple of my bug reports have been modified to read 'Fix Build', which I assume means they are going to fix it in the next build. I doubt if HRD will ever be the 'complete' rig control solution for a K3 or any other transceiver. - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, VP NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Dachshund Rescue, Maui -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KD8NNU Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 12:23 PM To: david Moes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD What version of HRD are you using. Pre 6.0 has a lot of CAT control problems. I understand that Elecraft has loaned a K3 to the HRD staff to fix issues and I see significant improvement in the 6.0 beta release after playing with it. Merry Christmas All! ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..- -Original Message- From: david Moes Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:05 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD Similar function with logger32 works fine on the K3.The mode will change according to mode definitions in the bands and modes table and sets mode when I click on a spot. HRD uses a similar setup. Is there possibly an error in the HRD band layout definitions as set in the band manager? possibly entries for the 30s segments. Mode is set based on band layouts and HRD the software sets rig mode, so i doubt it has much to do with the K3 firmware. If I am way off here, I must apologies. my answer assumes that this is similar in V6 as in earlier versions. On 12/23/2012 6:27 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Ok guys.. this is K3/KX3 week What do you all think is missing in HRD that the K3 command set supports? Not bugs, but things that aren't implemented. And it HAS to be in the cat controls to be implemented.. Rick - W4PC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick Ruhl Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:43 PM To: 'Mike Flowers'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD Hmm that's news to me ;) -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 3:38 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD I've logged a few bugs in HRD's bug tracking system about K3 rig control - among them some problems with buttons not properly toggling functions, not being highlighted as to state, the lack of a 6M and 2M band selection button, etc. So far a couple of my bug reports have been modified to read 'Fix Build', which I assume means they are going to fix it in the next build. I doubt if HRD will ever be the 'complete' rig control solution for a K3 or any other transceiver. - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, VP NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Dachshund Rescue, Maui -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KD8NNU Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 12:23 PM To: david Moes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD What version of HRD are you using. Pre 6.0 has a lot of CAT control problems. I understand that Elecraft has loaned a K3 to the HRD staff to fix issues and I see significant improvement in the 6.0 beta release after playing with it. Merry Christmas All! ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..- -Original Message- From: david Moes Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:05 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD Similar function with logger32 works fine on the K3.The mode will change according to mode definitions in the bands and modes table and sets mode when I click on a spot. HRD uses a similar setup. Is there possibly an error in the HRD band layout definitions as set in the band manager? possibly entries for the 30s segments. Mode is set based on band layouts and HRD the software sets rig mode, so i doubt it has much to do with the K3 firmware. If I am way off here, I must apologies. my answer assumes that this is similar in V6 as in earlier versions. On 12/23/2012 6:27 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Hi Rick, The TUNE button properly sets the KAT3 tuner tuning operation. I had to make a new CAT command to change it to an actual TUNE (send a carrier) to tickle the KAT500 into knowing what band portion I was on or for retuning. Um, SWH16? I'd have to look again. Unless I've totally missed something in V6b2, having an integrated terminal program (make it part of DM780?) for the K3 native PSK and FSK modes would be REALLY useful instead of relying on Data A mode or other external wiring. It could also be used to manually enter in commands for macro testing and it would play well with other brands of similar abilities. I also created a button and band display for 6M. Another row (or three) of buttons would be useful for remote ops since it's easy to run out of buttons. I've retasked some of them for remote operations. I've also noted that some buttons do not light up when active. The metering does not show the SWR in tune/tx mode(s) nor is it very responsive to quick changes. This also occurs when operating local so it isn't necessarily a polling frequency or latency issue that one would expect over a network. Thanks! Rick wa6nhc -Original Message- From: Rick Ruhl Ok guys.. this is K3/KX3 week What do you all think is missing in HRD that the K3 command set supports? Not bugs, but things that aren't implemented. And it HAS to be in the cat controls to be implemented.. Rick - W4PC -Original Message- From: Rick Ruhl Hmm that's news to me ;) -Original Message- From: Mike Flowers I've logged a few bugs in HRD's bug tracking system about K3 rig control - among them some problems with buttons not properly toggling functions, not being highlighted as to state, the lack of a 6M and 2M band selection button, etc. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
What version of HRD are you using. Pre 6.0 has a lot of CAT control problems. I understand that Elecraft has loaned a K3 to the HRD staff to fix issues and I see significant improvement in the 6.0 beta release after playing with it. Merry Christmas All! ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..- -Original Message- From: david Moes Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:05 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD Similar function with logger32 works fine on the K3.The mode will change according to mode definitions in the bands and modes table and sets mode when I click on a spot. HRD uses a similar setup. Is there possibly an error in the HRD band layout definitions as set in the band manager? possibly entries for the 30s segments. Mode is set based on band layouts and HRD the software sets rig mode, so i doubt it has much to do with the K3 firmware. If I am way off here, I must apologies. my answer assumes that this is similar in V6 as in earlier versions. On 12/23/2012 6:27 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
I've logged a few bugs in HRD's bug tracking system about K3 rig control - among them some problems with buttons not properly toggling functions, not being highlighted as to state, the lack of a 6M and 2M band selection button, etc. So far a couple of my bug reports have been modified to read 'Fix Build', which I assume means they are going to fix it in the next build. I doubt if HRD will ever be the 'complete' rig control solution for a K3 or any other transceiver. - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, VP NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Dachshund Rescue, Maui -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KD8NNU Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 12:23 PM To: david Moes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD What version of HRD are you using. Pre 6.0 has a lot of CAT control problems. I understand that Elecraft has loaned a K3 to the HRD staff to fix issues and I see significant improvement in the 6.0 beta release after playing with it. Merry Christmas All! ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..- -Original Message- From: david Moes Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:05 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD Similar function with logger32 works fine on the K3.The mode will change according to mode definitions in the bands and modes table and sets mode when I click on a spot. HRD uses a similar setup. Is there possibly an error in the HRD band layout definitions as set in the band manager? possibly entries for the 30s segments. Mode is set based on band layouts and HRD the software sets rig mode, so i doubt it has much to do with the K3 firmware. If I am way off here, I must apologies. my answer assumes that this is similar in V6 as in earlier versions. On 12/23/2012 6:27 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR On Dec 23, 2012, at 3:09 PM, David Boyd wrote: Disregard my last posting. I forgot to explain what is happening. Here is what my message should have said: I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Similar function with logger32 works fine on the K3.The mode will change according to mode definitions in the bands and modes table and sets mode when I click on a spot. HRD uses a similar setup. Is there possibly an error in the HRD band layout definitions as set in the band manager? possibly entries for the 30s segments. Mode is set based on band layouts and HRD the software sets rig mode, so i doubt it has much to do with the K3 firmware. If I am way off here, I must apologies. my answer assumes that this is similar in V6 as in earlier versions. On 12/23/2012 6:27 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD V6.0 beta
Hi Bill I got my key this morning over email but I could't find the v6 anywhere. I think will be posted soon, at least preview release. vy 73 de VE3GNO Daniel From: Bill Clarke b...@w2blc.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:40:18 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD V6.0 beta Has anyone gotten a copy yet? Comments? It is out there now. The new HRD could be very interesting for K3 use - the older versions lack many features and do not indicate selections correctly. Looking to hear good news. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 with HRD using CW modes
Hello Don There are four settings under the cw mode in Hrd. Cw, and winkey do not work with the K3 alone. The ky and mcw work good with the K3. Mcw is used with vox and the tones key the radio. Only down fall is you have to use the stop in macros or click the stop button. The kycw is for elecraft. It will key the radio and use the internal coder to send the morse. Plus without all that relay clicking of an external sound card. So you can use cwky or mcw they both work with the elecraft line. I have it running on a K2, K3, and a KX3. Good luck Gerald On Nov 11, 2012 7:31 AM, KD8NNU gold...@charter.net wrote: I use my K3 with HRD software and have the PTT working with all the digital modes except CW. There are four different drop down types in HRD and I have tried them all with the PTT. The only way I get CW to work is using VOX. This makes no difference if I use DATA Mode, USB or LSB, or CW for the settings on the K3. So the question is what setting am I missing as I can not send CW without VOX on. Its just computer generated dits and dahs thru a sound card no different that any other computer digital mode which works fine for me. I can live with VOX but then if I forget to turn it off it creates other potential problems. So basically I am thinking I am missing something in the setup. ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. –. –. ..- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 with HRD using CW modes
Don, The K3 requires VOX be active to send CW. Please check the K3 user's manual under CW operations. 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On 11/11/2012 8:31 AM, KD8NNU wrote: I use my K3 with HRD software and have the PTT working with all the digital modes except CW. There are four different drop down types in HRD and I have tried them all with the PTT. The only way I get CW to work is using VOX. This makes no difference if I use DATA Mode, USB or LSB, or CW for the settings on the K3. So the question is what setting am I missing as I can not send CW without VOX on. Its just computer generated dits and dahs thru a sound card no different that any other computer digital mode which works fine for me. I can live with VOX but then if I forget to turn it off it creates other potential problems. So basically I am thinking I am missing something in the setup. ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. –. –. ..- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 with HRD using CW modes
Yes, vox on mcw. Not needed on cwky. On Nov 11, 2012 4:43 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham km4ik@gmail.com wrote: Don, The K3 requires VOX be active to send CW. Please check the K3 user's manual under CW operations. 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On 11/11/2012 8:31 AM, KD8NNU wrote: I use my K3 with HRD software and have the PTT working with all the digital modes except CW. There are four different drop down types in HRD and I have tried them all with the PTT. The only way I get CW to work is using VOX. This makes no difference if I use DATA Mode, USB or LSB, or CW for the settings on the K3. So the question is what setting am I missing as I can not send CW without VOX on. Its just computer generated dits and dahs thru a sound card no different that any other computer digital mode which works fine for me. I can live with VOX but then if I forget to turn it off it creates other potential problems. So basically I am thinking I am missing something in the setup. ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. –. –. ..- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 with HRD using CW modes
I do not know what *cwky* might be, but the K3 will respond to a key closure if VOX is selected. If VOX is not selected, one must close PTT or tap the XMIT button to enable the transmit mode before beginning CW transmission. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/11/2012 5:49 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote: Yes, vox on mcw. Not needed on cwky. On Nov 11, 2012 4:43 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham km4ik@gmail.com wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 with HRD using CW modes
Thanks everyone who replied. I now have the K3 responding with using PTT and not needing VOX selected. I also have it so that it is not creating CW from the sound card so that the K3 is doing all the work. This is a great list as I had been asking this question for a few days on the HRD formum and this group had me the answer within 1/2 hour of the first post this morning. Now next step is to get CW in my brain so that I don’t need HRD DM780 any more for this mode. Cheers Don ~73 Don KD8NNU -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..- -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:35 PM To: Gerald Manthey Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 with HRD using CW modes I do not know what *cwky* might be, but the K3 will respond to a key closure if VOX is selected. If VOX is not selected, one must close PTT or tap the XMIT button to enable the transmit mode before beginning CW transmission. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/11/2012 5:49 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote: Yes, vox on mcw. Not needed on cwky. On Nov 11, 2012 4:43 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham km4ik@gmail.com wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - using HRD
Bill, Download the latest version, 5.24.0.36. While I can't speak for the availability of K3 controls in HRD v5.0 (I was using a FT-857 at the time), with the current version I can control almost any K3 function that I can control from the front panel controls. The notable exception is I can't modify the MAIN: and CONFIG: menus. Hope this helps. 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Bill b...@w2blc.net wrote: I am currently using HRD 5.0 with my K3 (Win7 op sys). It works fine, but it would be nice to have a larger selection of on-screen controls (buttons sliders). Does anyone know for sure if the new version provide same when it is released? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Steve, What COM port/baud rate is HRD using? They must match. 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Steve w8...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Guys.( Not gender specific) I just installed HRD v 5.11 on my computer and connected to the K3 with the KUSB cable into the RS-232 port on the radio. In the set up I have the Elecraft K3 on com port 3 at 38,400 Baud rateHow ever HRD tries, but cannot read the frequency on the radio. I am not in memory mode, the radio is on and using an Elecraft supplied cable. SuggestionsWhat is this OM over looking. 73' Steve W8CRH SEMPER FI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
I also have been having problems where the AGC suddenly shuts off while using HRD V.5 with the K3/P3 combination. It's not caused by RF because often this happens when I'm not even in the shack. I did find what seems to be a solution for me, so I thought I'd post back and hopefully help others similarly afflicted. My ah-ha moment came when I looked at the P3 manual and realized that the RS232 path to the K3 went through the P3. (Figure on p.13 of the P3 manual.) The communication between the P3 and K3 is always fixed at 38400 baud. However, the communication between the computer and P3 can be changed. My HRD to P3 link was originally set at the default of 38400 baud. I used the RS232 menu selection on the P3 to set the speed to 9600 baud and made the same corresponding change to the connection parameters in HRD on the PC. I haven't had any problems with the AGC dropping since then, and I haven't noticed any significant differnce in the functionality of HRD's ability to control/read the K3. -- Courtney KD6X -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-HRD-turning-AGC-off-tp6340160p6959674.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
The latest field-test edition of K3 firmware includes better protection from the communications problem that causes HRD to turn off AGC periodically. I'll be happy to send it to anyone who is experiencing the problem. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Courtney Krehbiel KD6X wrote: I also have been having problems where the AGC suddenly shuts off while using HRD V.5 with the K3/P3 combination. It's not caused by RF because often this happens when I'm not even in the shack. I did find what seems to be a solution for me, so I thought I'd post back and hopefully help others similarly afflicted. My ah-ha moment came when I looked at the P3 manual and realized that the RS232 path to the K3 went through the P3. (Figure on p.13 of the P3 manual.) The communication between the P3 and K3 is always fixed at 38400 baud. However, the communication between the computer and P3 can be changed. My HRD to P3 link was originally set at the default of 38400 baud. I used the RS232 menu selection on the P3 to set the speed to 9600 baud and made the same corresponding change to the connection parameters in HRD on the PC. I haven't had any problems with the AGC dropping since then, and I haven't noticed any significant differnce in the functionality of HRD's ability to control/read the K3. -- Courtney KD6X -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-HRD-turning-AGC-off-tp6340160p6959674.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Hi you all ! I these days due to the AGC boring problem we are suffering, due to the HRD recent history that says it's not clear when we'll have a new HRD bugs free release and as I own a Mac I'm testing Cocoamodem/MacLoggerDx and I may say the AGC problem disappeared. So I would thank you a lot Wayne and whole Elecraft for efforts to fix this problem but it does not come from k3 itself but it belongs to the HRD software (I think) as Joe Subich (if I'm not wrong) explained us in a previous post. Anyway, as I'll keep on working with HRD until I'll be not 100% skilled with Mac app, Wayne I'd like to have this new firmware release for my k3.possibly. Thanks a lot for all, best 73 Giorgio IK1BXN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-HRD-turning-AGC-off-tp6340160p6960459.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+HRD AGC Problems
David, I followed Joe¹s idea of using LP-Bridge. I noticed the update rate is somewhat ³hurky-jerky², but the AGC pop-off has not occurred yet. This combination of software is also not indefinitely stable over time, with HRD requiring restart periodically to get ready of the ³DATA² error in HRD¹s rig display. I¹d pay good money to someone who makes HRD work properly as I really like the interface for casual DX logging. Thanks for the input. 73, Dan WA6PZK On 10/8/11 9:56 AM, David Inger ingerassocia...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Dan, I see you have received several responses to your question. I raised this same issue several weeks ago, and also received responses pointing to HRD. I have noticed that HRD and the K3 play well together, until the P3 is added; then the AGC problem shows up. After having used HRD for many years (on many radios), I think I am going to have to abandon it, unless the new owners of HRD can fix the problem. This is too bad because I really like the DM780 digital module; no other digital package runs so many different programs. The only other option is disconnect the P3, and I¹m not going to do that. The DX Labs suite or TRX-Manager may be an option, but I will still try to run DM780 as a standalone. I think you will find the P3 worth any software sacrifice. 73 de K6SBA David in Santa Barbara __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
This is a known issue reported before on this list. Search the archives for some fellow sufferers. 73, Guy. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote: Has anybody experienced this with LP-Bridge inserted between the K3 and HRD? That should slow down the polling of the K3 as LP-Bridge will do the polling at its own pace and respond to HRD with data from its own database. I have never experienced any problems with AGC turning off but I am also using HRD v 4. AB2TC - Knut Stephen Prior wrote: I have just downloaded DXLab. I don't think I shall be bothering with HRD anymore! In answer to Guy's question, I seem to recall that a serial port emulator I have used in the past had a buffer for HRD, but I'm a bit hazy on the detail. Thanks gents, for all the input. I'm going to take a good look at DXLab and look again at MacLogger and Rumlog for the mac. 73, Stephen -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-HRD-turning-AGC-off-tp6340160p6347915.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Has anybody experienced this with LP-Bridge inserted between the K3 and HRD? That should slow down the polling of the K3 as LP-Bridge will do the polling at its own pace and respond to HRD with data from its own database. I have never experienced any problems with AGC turning off but I am also using HRD v 4. AB2TC - Knut Stephen Prior wrote: I have just downloaded DXLab. I don't think I shall be bothering with HRD anymore! In answer to Guy's question, I seem to recall that a serial port emulator I have used in the past had a buffer for HRD, but I'm a bit hazy on the detail. Thanks gents, for all the input. I'm going to take a good look at DXLab and look again at MacLogger and Rumlog for the mac. 73, Stephen -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-HRD-turning-AGC-off-tp6340160p6347915.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Hi Stephen: YES, the same thing happens to me several times a week.. I have the same setup as you referenced to K3-HRD and I'm also using the HRD logbook and DX Cluster.. de W4CCS On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. 73s Jim, W4ATK On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Thanks Jim Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 07/05/2011 16:12, JAMES ROGERS w4...@bellsouth.net wrote: Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. 73s Jim, W4ATK On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
It happens exactly the same to me, totally unpredictable and not relevant to a sequence of cat command I may send via HRD ! It's really funny and frustrating :-( I'm using HRD into a virtualized XP Pro machine at a Mac Mini , using a 232-Usb adapter. In the past I had similar strange behaviour using HRD 4 under XP Pro virtualized at an Opensuse pc and the rig was 756 Pro III. In that case suddenly and without any reason the AF gain went to the maximun (my wife enjoyed it so much). I feel it will be really hard to fix HI ! 73 to everybody Giorgio IK1BXN I think it's not an Elecraft problem too, Il giorno 07/mag/2011, alle ore 17.12, JAMES ROGERS ha scritto: Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. 73s Jim, W4ATK On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not abuse the K3 CAT interface. No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: Thanks Jim Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 07/05/2011 16:12, JAMES ROGERSw4...@bellsouth.net wrote: Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. 73s Jim, W4ATK On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Can the HRD polling be slowed down a bit? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not abuse the K3 CAT interface. No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: Thanks Jim Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 07/05/2011 16:12, JAMES ROGERSw4...@bellsouth.net wrote: Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. 73s Jim, W4ATK On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
Joe, I too use DX Labs suite and the issue has never returned. 73's Gary On 8 May 2011 04:00, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: Can the HRD polling be slowed down a bit? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not abuse the K3 CAT interface. No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: Thanks Jim Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 07/05/2011 16:12, JAMES ROGERSw4...@bellsouth.net wrote: Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. 73s Jim, W4ATK On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD turning AGC off
I have just downloaded DXLab. I don't think I shall be bothering with HRD anymore! In answer to Guy's question, I seem to recall that a serial port emulator I have used in the past had a buffer for HRD, but I'm a bit hazy on the detail. Thanks gents, for all the input. I'm going to take a good look at DXLab and look again at MacLogger and Rumlog for the mac. 73, Stephen On 07/05/2011 21:09, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: Joe, I too use DX Labs suite and the issue has never returned. 73's Gary On 8 May 2011 04:00, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: Can the HRD polling be slowed down a bit? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not abuse the K3 CAT interface. No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: Thanks Jim Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 07/05/2011 16:12, JAMES ROGERSw4...@bellsouth.net wrote: Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. 73s Jim, W4ATK On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - psk31 - HRD
Roger, Set the soundcard output higher. Note -- if you have more than one sound card, the normal volume settings displayed apply only to the default soundcard. You must use the Control Panel to temporarily change the default soundcard to adjust the controls on the other one, and then change the default back. There is nothing wrong with using a higher level out of the soundcard. Set it up to at least 75% or even at the 90% level (more if you need it). You need to achieve 4 bars solid on the K3 ALC meter, or you will experience power creep in the K3 output. You adjust the K3 LINE-IN level, not the mic level if you are connected to the line-in jack. Set the selection to be used in data mode in the K3 menu. If you have an interface box in between the computer and the K3, that may be your problem source. Many interface boxes reduce the signal from line level to a microphone level. Give us more details about your setup and connections if you continue to have problems. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/31/2011 11:09 AM, roger shirko wrote: here's the setup: windows 7 -- HRD / DM 780 5.0 build 2636 -- K3 most current software and direct connect to PC sound card and using Elecraft USB/Serial cable.. everything in HRD is fine with the K3 .. am able to completely control all. DM 780 waterfalls work fine, so comms between K3 software is functioning. PTT configured for HRD I used the Elecraft Op Tips (Mar 2, 08) and attempted to follow it. I can set the K3 to DATA A - no problem Cannot get any bars on the ALC, no matter how I adjust MIC - sound card is set to midpoint on both in and out Cannot get an XMIT indicator but works in PSK D with the morse key __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - psk31 - HRD
Hi, You don't have to change the default sound card setting if you want to set the volume of one that is not the default. Once you have the volume setting for the default card displayed, click options, then properties and you will get a dropdown list with all the installed mixer devices and you can select the one you wish to change the volume for. With Vista and Win7 the nomenclature may be a little different from what I have described, but should follow the same general guidelines. In my view, for amateur radio use, there are still good reasons to stick with XP. AB2TC - Knut Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: Roger, Set the soundcard output higher. Note -- if you have more than one sound card, the normal volume settings displayed apply only to the default soundcard. You must use the Control Panel to temporarily change the default soundcard to adjust the controls on the other one, and then change the default back. snip -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-psk31-HRD-tp5977618p5979311.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Jim, Your description sounds very much like what would be expected to happen if the software thought the radio was in upper sideband but the radio was actually in lower sideband. You didn't mention which of the K3's four data sub-modes you were using. Two of them are USB and two are LSB. If you had not chosen the appropriate data mode for PSK, you could be in LSB without expecting it, perhaps. Hold the DATA MD button (also labelled AFX - just above the VFO B knob). If it reads AFSK A (or FSK D), you are actually on lower sideband. Rotate the VFO B knob until the VFO B display reads DATA A - that's the sub-mode you want for PSK. If my guess at a diagnosis was correct, this should help set things straight. If my diagnosis was incorrect, perhaps there is another related kind of problem. Some software reads the mode from the radio but not the sub-mode, and simply assumes that Data mode is always FSK, lower sideband, with frequency readout = RTTY mark. None of those is true in DATA A, and that can lead to a mismatch between the software and the radio. This is what happens to me with MixW. I can set it up correctly for PSK by manually setting the sideband and inserting a frequency offset, but then it is all wrong for RTTY. Luckily for me, the software I use most often knows about the K3's data sub-modes and gets them right. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Thanks guys, yes, I had been messing with the data modes and left it in AFSK, back to Data A and it is all well again. And thanks for the explanation of which way the Data modes are. Nice to know. 73, Jim - Original Message - From: Richard Ferch ve3...@storm.ca To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: jimmil...@stl-online.net Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD Jim, Your description sounds very much like what would be expected to happen if the software thought the radio was in upper sideband but the radio was actually in lower sideband. You didn't mention which of the K3's four data sub-modes you were using. Two of them are USB and two are LSB. If you had not chosen the appropriate data mode for PSK, you could be in LSB without expecting it, perhaps. Hold the DATA MD button (also labelled AFX - just above the VFO B knob). If it reads AFSK A (or FSK D), you are actually on lower sideband. Rotate the VFO B knob until the VFO B display reads DATA A - that's the sub-mode you want for PSK. If my guess at a diagnosis was correct, this should help set things straight. If my diagnosis was incorrect, perhaps there is another related kind of problem. Some software reads the mode from the radio but not the sub-mode, and simply assumes that Data mode is always FSK, lower sideband, with frequency readout = RTTY mark. None of those is true in DATA A, and that can lead to a mismatch between the software and the radio. This is what happens to me with MixW. I can set it up correctly for PSK by manually setting the sideband and inserting a frequency offset, but then it is all wrong for RTTY. Luckily for me, the software I use most often knows about the K3's data sub-modes and gets them right. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD - can't connect
If the USB to Serial Adapter is COM9 and HRD is opening COM3, then HRD isn't going to find your K3. Maybe you can change the USB to Serial Adapter to use a COM port number that's within the range of COM ports that HRD supports. The Windows Device Manager will let you choose the COM port you want, as long as it isn't already in use. I set my computer to use COM255 for testing the KUSB with the K3 Utility to verify that it works for a wide range of COM port numbers. Dick, K6KR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence Libsch Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:21 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD - can't connect I am attempting to connect to my K3 with HRD. I am using the Elecraft USB to serial port to connect them. The USB to serial port connector is on COM 9, has the latest drivers and has been successfully used to install K3 firmware v 4.26. HRD will not let me choose COM 9. COM 3, which HRD wants is said to be in use when I look at the possibility of changing to COM3. The K3, the port and HRD are all set for 38400 baud. Using auto-select for the COM port selection, HRD finds port 3 and fails to connect giving the error messages frrquency =0 and K3 COM3 38400 Failed to read frequency. Ideas please? Larry ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD - can't connect
I had LP-Bridge configured with a virtual serial port of COM11 earlier today, and HRD found and opened that OK. ~Iain Dick Dievendorff wrote: If the USB to Serial Adapter is COM9 and HRD is opening COM3, then HRD isn’t going to find your K3. Maybe you can change the USB to Serial Adapter to use a COM port number that’s within the range of COM ports that HRD supports. The Windows Device Manager will let you choose the COM port you want, as long as it isn’t already in use. I set my computer to use COM255 for testing the KUSB with the K3 Utility to verify that it works for a wide range of COM port numbers. Dick, K6KR *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Lawrence Libsch *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:21 PM *To:* Elecraft@mailman.qth.net *Subject:* [Elecraft] K3 and HRD - can't connect I am attempting to connect to my K3 with HRD. I am using the Elecraft USB to serial port to connect them. The USB to serial port connector is on COM 9, has the latest drivers and has been successfully used to install K3 firmware v 4.26. HRD will not let me choose COM 9. COM 3, which HRD wants is said to be in use when I look at the possibility of changing to COM3. The K3, the port and HRD are all set for 38400 baud. Using auto-select for the COM port selection, HRD finds port 3 and fails to connect giving the error messages frrquency =0 and K3 COM3 38400 Failed to read frequency. Ideas please? Larry ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Joe, Compare the RS232 speed you have set in the K3 CONFIG menu with the speed that HRD is trying to use. Mine connects fine at 38400. The K3 Utility sets the K3 baud rate automatically, so the updates may work fine, but other applications may not. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Word wrote: I am trying to use Ham Radio Deluxe to control my K3, I get the message Acces is Denied. I am on the correct port and etc, I use the same cable to update the K3. Is there any setup in the K3 needed? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Be sure to set the K3 data rate to 4800 baud. That did it for me. Bruce-W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Word Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD I am trying to use Ham Radio Deluxe to control my K3, I get the message Acces is Denied. I am on the correct port and etc, I use the same cable to update the K3. Is there any setup in the K3 needed? 73, Joe N9VX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1529 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:23 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Another program has the COM port open already. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Joe Word [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to use Ham Radio Deluxe to control my K3, I get the message Acces is Denied. I am on the correct port and etc, I use the same cable to update the K3. Is there any setup in the K3 needed? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
I suggest to change the K3 and HRD to 38400 - it'll fly... Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Bruce McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be sure to set the K3 data rate to 4800 baud. That did it for me. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Hi, Joe! Access denied here typically means that another program (perhaps the K3 Utility) has the COM port in question open. You need to stop the other program's use of the COM port. Close the other program. If you can't find the other program, log off and log on from your Windows XP/Vista USERID (or reboot), which ends all the programs started under your userID. With Windows 98 I'd reboot if I couldn't find and end the program that holds the contested resource (the COM port). There are some advanced Windows snoop tools to determine what program holds what resources (see SysInternals), but usually it's pretty easy to figure out who has the COM port - it's a program you started. The K3 Utility finds the K3 at any of the K3's supported baud rates. When loading firmware, it shifts to 38400 bps and attempts to restore the speed after firmware loading is complete. There are some circumstances (described in the Troubleshooting section of K3 Utility Help) where the speed is left at 38,400. If the baud rate isn't what some other program like HRD expects, I'd expect a different error than Access Denied. Simon will know for sure. You can use the K3 Utility's Test Communication function on the Port tab to find out what baud rate the K3 is currently set to. You can also use the K3's CONFIG:RS232 menu to get the same information. The K3's RS-232 speed can be set from the K3's CONFIG:RS232 menu, or by entering a br command from the K3 Utility. Details are in K3 Utility Help under the Troubleshooting topic Loading Firmware Changes the RS-232 Speed. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Word Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:44 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD I am trying to use Ham Radio Deluxe to control my K3, I get the message Acces is Denied. I am on the correct port and etc, I use the same cable to update the K3. Is there any setup in the K3 needed? 73, Joe N9VX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Hi Malcom, The K3 is supported in the beta version (3.5). The beta version is available on the download page. 73 Tony Fegan VE3QF K3 #137 Malcolm Rothwell wrote: Downloaded HRD (again) and note that there is no support for the K3, the only Elecraft radio is the K2. Has this been withdrawn? Seem to remember my last play with HRD that the K3 was an radio option? Mal G4KFT K3 #263 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Go to the Beta downloads! Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Malcolm Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Downloaded HRD (again) and note that there is no support for the K3, the only Elecraft radio is the K2. Has this been withdrawn? Seem to remember my last play with HRD that the K3 was an radio option? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
