Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA availability
Ted, I responded via your email address. I have both P3 options available (P3SVGA and P3TXMON). Ed, W9EJB Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA and 20 inch Display
Another benefit of the SVGA kit is that you can add an external keypad to your K3 for triggering macros stored in the P3... See: https://www.nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/ I used this during the recent contest last weekend, and the only reason I touched the radio was to tune it, or change the passband. Pretty much used the keypad for the entire contest. Having 50 macros at the press of a key is a lot of fun in contests... 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net On 03/29/2018 04:36 PM, Dennis Moore wrote: TX Monitor does not appear on the external monitor. If I really need to look at it I check the P3, otherwise I'm always checking the external monitor. It's worth it even without the TX monitor display. 73, Dennis NJ6G On 3/29/2018 16:31, Phil Hystad wrote: I am considering finally getting the P3SVGA option for my P3. I do have a 20 inch HDMI display supporting a variety of resolutions. I plan to use with an SVGA to HDMI conversion cable. So, I am wondering how the P3 TX Monitor display shows up on the SVGA display. I assume either not at all or just like it does on my P3 window. Or, maybe different. For example, I use my P3 in the display mode that has the bar graphs showing PEP and SWR. Are these supported on the SVGA controlled display? It would be nice if there were some color images of the SVGA display showing actual signals that include the TX Monitor display information as well as TX and RX data decoding windows on the display. Do any of those exist? Thanks, 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA and 20 inch Display
I use the P3 with a 32 inch monitor and the display is excellent. I wouldn't be without it. 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Phil Hystad Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:31 AM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA and 20 inch Display I am considering finally getting the P3SVGA option for my P3. I do have a 20 inch HDMI display supporting a variety of resolutions. I plan to use with an SVGA to HDMI conversion cable. So, I am wondering how the P3 TX Monitor display shows up on the SVGA display. I assume either not at all or just like it does on my P3 window. Or, maybe different. For example, I use my P3 in the display mode that has the bar graphs showing PEP and SWR. Are these supported on the SVGA controlled display? It would be nice if there were some color images of the SVGA display showing actual signals that include the TX Monitor display information as well as TX and RX data decoding windows on the display. Do any of those exist? Thanks, 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA and 20 inch Display
Hi Phil, The details you missed are here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Xmit%20Mon%20FAQ-ver-A-7.pdf The TX Monitor works great with the P3 display, no need for it to be displayed on a large monitor. On the other hand, the other P3 displays benefit greatly from the SVGA option. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Phil Hystad" To: "Dennis Moore" Cc: "Elecraft" Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:54:06 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA and 20 inch Display Dennis, Thanks, so SVGA display has zero knowledge of the existence of the TX Monitor information (not the RF Envelope and not the TX PEP/SWR windows). Was there any sort of statement from Elecraft on the non-support of SVGA of the TX Monitor? If there was I most likely missed it. If I remember, TX Monitor came after the advent of the SVGA option. However, not big deal as, like you said, there is always the P3 to look at if needed. 73, phil > On Mar 29, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Dennis Moore wrote: > > TX Monitor does not appear on the external monitor. If I really need to look > at it I check the P3, otherwise I'm always checking the external monitor. > It's worth it even without the TX monitor display. > > 73, Dennis NJ6G > > > On 3/29/2018 16:31, Phil Hystad wrote: >> I am considering finally getting the P3SVGA option for my P3. I do have a 20 >> inch HDMI display supporting a variety of resolutions. I plan to use with an >> SVGA to HDMI conversion cable. >> >> So, I am wondering how the P3 TX Monitor display shows up on the SVGA >> display. I assume either not at all or just like it does on my P3 window. >> Or, maybe different. For example, I use my P3 in the display mode that has >> the bar graphs showing PEP and SWR. Are these supported on the SVGA >> controlled display? >> >> It would be nice if there were some color images of the SVGA display showing >> actual signals that include the TX Monitor display information as well as TX >> and RX data decoding windows on the display. Do any of those exist? >> >> Thanks, >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donov...@starpower.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA and 20 inch Display
Dennis, Thanks, so SVGA display has zero knowledge of the existence of the TX Monitor information (not the RF Envelope and not the TX PEP/SWR windows). Was there any sort of statement from Elecraft on the non-support of SVGA of the TX Monitor? If there was I most likely missed it. If I remember, TX Monitor came after the advent of the SVGA option. However, not big deal as, like you said, there is always the P3 to look at if needed. 73, phil > On Mar 29, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Dennis Moore wrote: > > TX Monitor does not appear on the external monitor. If I really need to look > at it I check the P3, otherwise I'm always checking the external monitor. > It's worth it even without the TX monitor display. > > 73, Dennis NJ6G > > > On 3/29/2018 16:31, Phil Hystad wrote: >> I am considering finally getting the P3SVGA option for my P3. I do have a >> 20 inch HDMI display supporting a variety of resolutions. I plan to use >> with an SVGA to HDMI conversion cable. >> >> So, I am wondering how the P3 TX Monitor display shows up on the SVGA >> display. I assume either not at all or just like it does on my P3 window. >> Or, maybe different. For example, I use my P3 in the display mode that has >> the bar graphs showing PEP and SWR. Are these supported on the SVGA >> controlled display? >> >> It would be nice if there were some color images of the SVGA display showing >> actual signals that include the TX Monitor display information as well as TX >> and RX data decoding windows on the display. Do any of those exist? >> >> Thanks, >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA and 20 inch Display
TX Monitor does not appear on the external monitor. If I really need to look at it I check the P3, otherwise I'm always checking the external monitor. It's worth it even without the TX monitor display. 73, Dennis NJ6G On 3/29/2018 16:31, Phil Hystad wrote: I am considering finally getting the P3SVGA option for my P3. I do have a 20 inch HDMI display supporting a variety of resolutions. I plan to use with an SVGA to HDMI conversion cable. So, I am wondering how the P3 TX Monitor display shows up on the SVGA display. I assume either not at all or just like it does on my P3 window. Or, maybe different. For example, I use my P3 in the display mode that has the bar graphs showing PEP and SWR. Are these supported on the SVGA controlled display? It would be nice if there were some color images of the SVGA display showing actual signals that include the TX Monitor display information as well as TX and RX data decoding windows on the display. Do any of those exist? Thanks, 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ?
Phil, just noted this little handy device to convert your video signals. VicTsing HDMI to VGA Converter Adapter with Mirco USB Charging Cord for PC, Laptop, DVD, Desktop and other HDMI Input Devices - Black 73, Bill K9YEQ From: Bill Johnson Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:44 PM To: 'tomb18' ; Phil Hystad Cc: Elecraft Subject: RE: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? I am using an older tv set that has hdmi and vga input. Iam using the vga and it has fine enough resolution. 73, Bill K9YEQ From: tomb18 [mailto:tom...@videotron.ca] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:49 PM To: Phil Hystad mailto:phys...@mac.com>>; Bill Johnson mailto:k9...@live.com>> Cc: Elecraft mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? This is a valid point. I don't think all vga to hdmi converters are created equally. Also the svga output from the p3 at 1920x1080 doesn't work on any of my monitors so it would be interesting to know if that would be the case when it is converted. 73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Phil Hystad mailto:phys...@mac.com>> Date: 2017-12-22 1:37 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Bill Johnson mailto:k9...@live.com>> Cc: Elecraft mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? Bill, I did that (i.e. search on Amazon) and that is what motivated my question which was hopefully geared to narrow the selection down with good usage experience by others. 73, phil > On Dec 22, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Bill Johnson > mailto:k9...@live.com>> wrote: > > Phil, type in " VGA to HDMI adapter cable" in Amazon and you can take your > pick. Avoid the cheapest. > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > > > -Original Message- > From: > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:03 PM > To: Elecraft mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> > Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? > > I am planning to get the P3SVGA Option board and I need a VGA to HDMI adapter > cable. Does anyone have a recommendation of a cable that you use and works > well? > > Thanks, > 73, phil, K7PEH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to k9...@live.com<mailto:k9...@live.com> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca<mailto:tom...@videotron.ca> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ?
I am using an older tv set that has hdmi and vga input. Iam using the vga and it has fine enough resolution. 73, Bill K9YEQ From: tomb18 [mailto:tom...@videotron.ca] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:49 PM To: Phil Hystad ; Bill Johnson Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? This is a valid point. I don't think all vga to hdmi converters are created equally. Also the svga output from the p3 at 1920x1080 doesn't work on any of my monitors so it would be interesting to know if that would be the case when it is converted. 73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Phil Hystad mailto:phys...@mac.com>> Date: 2017-12-22 1:37 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Bill Johnson mailto:k9...@live.com>> Cc: Elecraft mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? Bill, I did that (i.e. search on Amazon) and that is what motivated my question which was hopefully geared to narrow the selection down with good usage experience by others. 73, phil > On Dec 22, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Bill Johnson > mailto:k9...@live.com>> wrote: > > Phil, type in " VGA to HDMI adapter cable" in Amazon and you can take your > pick. Avoid the cheapest. > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > > > -Original Message- > From: > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:03 PM > To: Elecraft mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> > Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? > > I am planning to get the P3SVGA Option board and I need a VGA to HDMI adapter > cable. Does anyone have a recommendation of a cable that you use and works > well? > > Thanks, > 73, phil, K7PEH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to k9...@live.com<mailto:k9...@live.com> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca<mailto:tom...@videotron.ca> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ?
This is a valid point. I don't think all vga to hdmi converters are created equally. Also the svga output from the p3 at 1920x1080 doesn't work on any of my monitors so it would be interesting to know if that would be the case when it is converted. 73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Phil Hystad Date: 2017-12-22 1:37 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Bill Johnson Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? Bill, I did that (i.e. search on Amazon) and that is what motivated my question which was hopefully geared to narrow the selection down with good usage experience by others. 73, phil > On Dec 22, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: > > Phil, type in " VGA to HDMI adapter cable" in Amazon and you can take your > pick. Avoid the cheapest. > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:03 PM > To: Elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? > > I am planning to get the P3SVGA Option board and I need a VGA to HDMI adapter > cable. Does anyone have a recommendation of a cable that you use and works > well? > > Thanks, > 73, phil, K7PEH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to k9...@live.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ?
Bill, I did that (i.e. search on Amazon) and that is what motivated my question which was hopefully geared to narrow the selection down with good usage experience by others. 73, phil > On Dec 22, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: > > Phil, type in " VGA to HDMI adapter cable" in Amazon and you can take your > pick. Avoid the cheapest. > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:03 PM > To: Elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? > > I am planning to get the P3SVGA Option board and I need a VGA to HDMI adapter > cable. Does anyone have a recommendation of a cable that you use and works > well? > > Thanks, > 73, phil, K7PEH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to k9...@live.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ?
Phil, type in " VGA to HDMI adapter cable" in Amazon and you can take your pick. Avoid the cheapest. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:03 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option: VGA to HDMI adapter ? I am planning to get the P3SVGA Option board and I need a VGA to HDMI adapter cable. Does anyone have a recommendation of a cable that you use and works well? Thanks, 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9...@live.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA/K3 macro madness
K2UF, Looking at your cut, you left off the ";" at the end of the command. Each command needs the ";" at the end. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Tue, 2016-03-01 at 17:44 -0800, Alan wrote: > What version of P3 firmware is installed? You need at least v. 1.57. > > Alan N1AL > > > On 03/01/2016 12:59 PM, Joe K2UF wrote: > > Trying to use the commands in the P3 pgmrs ref. If I enter a > > command into > > the P3 utility or the K3 utility app they work fine. If I try to > > place one > > of the P3 commands (ie #SPN000500 ) in one of the P3 slots using > > the > > attached keyboard it does not work. I do not have a problem using > > any of > > the K3 commands. > > > > Any ideas/help > > > > Joe K2UF > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA/K3 macro madness
What version of P3 firmware is installed? You need at least v. 1.57. Alan N1AL On 03/01/2016 12:59 PM, Joe K2UF wrote: Trying to use the commands in the P3 pgmrs ref. If I enter a command into the P3 utility or the K3 utility app they work fine. If I try to place one of the P3 commands (ie #SPN000500 ) in one of the P3 slots using the attached keyboard it does not work. I do not have a problem using any of the K3 commands. Any ideas/help Joe K2UF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA For Sale
The P3SVGA has been spoken for.ThanksBob W6VY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA For Sale
I'll take it Paypal? Tex ka5y -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-For-Sale-tp7606416p7606423.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Frame Rate?
That worked! Thanks! jim ab3cv On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote: > Hi Jim, > > The first thing to try is to perform a parameter reset on the P3. With the > P3 on, hold down the MENU and PWR keys. Note, this will reset any function > keys you may have set up. > > The frame rate will slow when the span is very narrow. For example at 2 > KHz > span, the frame rate will slow substantially due to increased sampling. > > If you're still getting slow frame rates, after trying the above, please > contact Elecraft Customer support at k3support at elecraft dot com > > 73, > > Paul > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-Frame-Rate-tp7594490p7594530.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to j...@jtmiller.com > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Frame Rate?
Hi Jim, The first thing to try is to perform a parameter reset on the P3. With the P3 on, hold down the MENU and PWR keys. Note, this will reset any function keys you may have set up. The frame rate will slow when the span is very narrow. For example at 2 KHz span, the frame rate will slow substantially due to increased sampling. If you're still getting slow frame rates, after trying the above, please contact Elecraft Customer support at k3support at elecraft dot com 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-Frame-Rate-tp7594490p7594530.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
"You're both right," he mused, studying his own schematic (and inexplicably referring to himself in the third person). The KNB3 *is* downstream of the pick-off point for the P3. But in the presence of very strong signals and with the KNB3 set to a long gate time, some of the gating artifacts could in theory back-propagate to the pick-off point, affecting the P3. Normally this effect would be highly suppressed because of the low impedance of the driving stage (the mixer post-amp). Wayne N6KR On Aug 17, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Joe, > > I don't want to be confrontational and I greatly value your engineering mind, > but I'm quite certain that the wide K3 NB DOES affect the P3 display. I work > a lot of JT65 on 6M, and there are several strong signals (not of overload > magnitude) near me. The NB DOES create artifacts that result in multiple > decodes, and corresponding stuff that is quite visible in the P3 display, and > that is not visible when the K3 NB is off. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On Fri,8/15/2014 2:35 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >>> I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise >>> when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise >>> for which it is effective. >> >> 2 - 4 dB may be due to upsetting the impedance at the IF feed but given >> the circuit topology it is not possible for the NB to provide effective >> blanking to the P3 with the noise gate *after* the IF pick-off point. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 2014-08-15 5:13 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> On 8/15/2014 11:29 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Jim, that information is incorrect. The K3 NB can not possibly have any impact on the P3 or P3SVGA as the IF pick-off is at the output of the first mixer - *before* any noise blanker gate. >>> >>> Joe, >>> >>> I've never studied the schematic or signal flow in the regard, but I >>> often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when >>> the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for >>> which it is effective. >>> >>> I appreciate the alert to the existence of the P3 NB. I last updated >>> firmware about six months ago, and it was not in that version. It does, >>> indeed, work pretty well. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Jim, with the pick-off point clearly *before* the noise gate, the NB can not possibly provide any *blanking* to the P3. There may certainly be artifacts due to changes in the impedance (loading) seen by the P3, but that is a *big difference* from real banking. Please study the schematics before you claim the hardware blanker *works* for the P3. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-18 2:54 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Joe, I don't want to be confrontational and I greatly value your engineering mind, but I'm quite certain that the wide K3 NB DOES affect the P3 display. I work a lot of JT65 on 6M, and there are several strong signals (not of overload magnitude) near me. The NB DOES create artifacts that result in multiple decodes, and corresponding stuff that is quite visible in the P3 display, and that is not visible when the K3 NB is off. 73, Jim K9YC On Fri,8/15/2014 2:35 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for which it is effective. 2 - 4 dB may be due to upsetting the impedance at the IF feed but given the circuit topology it is not possible for the NB to provide effective blanking to the P3 with the noise gate *after* the IF pick-off point. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-15 5:13 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 8/15/2014 11:29 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Jim, that information is incorrect. The K3 NB can not possibly have any impact on the P3 or P3SVGA as the IF pick-off is at the output of the first mixer - *before* any noise blanker gate. Joe, I've never studied the schematic or signal flow in the regard, but I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for which it is effective. I appreciate the alert to the existence of the P3 NB. I last updated firmware about six months ago, and it was not in that version. It does, indeed, work pretty well. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to j...@audiosystemsgroup.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Joe, I don't want to be confrontational and I greatly value your engineering mind, but I'm quite certain that the wide K3 NB DOES affect the P3 display. I work a lot of JT65 on 6M, and there are several strong signals (not of overload magnitude) near me. The NB DOES create artifacts that result in multiple decodes, and corresponding stuff that is quite visible in the P3 display, and that is not visible when the K3 NB is off. 73, Jim K9YC On Fri,8/15/2014 2:35 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for which it is effective. 2 - 4 dB may be due to upsetting the impedance at the IF feed but given the circuit topology it is not possible for the NB to provide effective blanking to the P3 with the noise gate *after* the IF pick-off point. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-15 5:13 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 8/15/2014 11:29 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Jim, that information is incorrect. The K3 NB can not possibly have any impact on the P3 or P3SVGA as the IF pick-off is at the output of the first mixer - *before* any noise blanker gate. Joe, I've never studied the schematic or signal flow in the regard, but I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for which it is effective. I appreciate the alert to the existence of the P3 NB. I last updated firmware about six months ago, and it was not in that version. It does, indeed, work pretty well. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to j...@audiosystemsgroup.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
With the exception of figuring out how to deal the 'web cam' or 'capture card' needed to view the P3, I have been seriously considering Win4K3. Unfortunately now that I know the 'Mothership' is resistant to working with Tom, I will wait until I hear that has changed before I take the leap. Sorry Tom, please let us know if that changes. :-( -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 8/15/2014 4:03 PM, KQ8M wrote: I agree with Gerald. I have used Win4K3 in place of the HRD rig control software. It not only works much much better but also has shared con ports for other software to also control the K Line. Plus he responds to any problem with a much more professional attitude than others do. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com snip On Friday, August 15, 2014 2:45 PM, KC6CNN wrote: I use Tom ' s software. It is stable and controls the elecraft line like no other. There are a few issues that he has told us about and did say elecraft was notified and later I recheck and he did not hear back from them. This software should be on the elecraft site. It controls the K-Line as well as the KX3 and has a terminal window. I hope this issue gets resolved as the Win4k3suite is outstanding. Hoping for a fast solution Gerald - KC6CNN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Since his last release for F/W upgrade to the P3SVGA card was on February 27th, 2013 we should be careful holding our breath on the next release. hihi Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592158.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for which it is effective. 2 - 4 dB may be due to upsetting the impedance at the IF feed but given the circuit topology it is not possible for the NB to provide effective blanking to the P3 with the noise gate *after* the IF pick-off point. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-15 5:13 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 8/15/2014 11:29 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Jim, that information is incorrect. The K3 NB can not possibly have any impact on the P3 or P3SVGA as the IF pick-off is at the output of the first mixer - *before* any noise blanker gate. Joe, I've never studied the schematic or signal flow in the regard, but I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for which it is effective. I appreciate the alert to the existence of the P3 NB. I last updated firmware about six months ago, and it was not in that version. It does, indeed, work pretty well. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Agreed. This is on the firmware task list for the engineer working on P3 and PX3 code. 73, Wayne N6KR On Aug 15, 2014, at 2:23 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: > "/I appreciate the alert to the existence of the P3 NB. I last updated > firmware about six months ago, and it was not in that version. It does, > indeed, work pretty well/." > > > *And it would be great if it worked with the P3SVGA but it does nothing on > that screen. > * > > Keith __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
"/I appreciate the alert to the existence of the P3 NB. I last updated firmware about six months ago, and it was not in that version. It does, indeed, work pretty well/." *And it would be great if it worked with the P3SVGA but it does nothing on that screen. * Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592155.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
On 8/15/2014 11:29 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Jim, that information is incorrect. The K3 NB can not possibly have any impact on the P3 or P3SVGA as the IF pick-off is at the output of the first mixer - *before* any noise blanker gate. Joe, I've never studied the schematic or signal flow in the regard, but I often study the screen of my P3, which DOES show reduction of noise when the wider NB is active. 2-4 dB is typical for the types of noise for which it is effective. I appreciate the alert to the existence of the P3 NB. I last updated firmware about six months ago, and it was not in that version. It does, indeed, work pretty well. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
I agree with Gerald. I have used Win4K3 in place of the HRD rig control software. It not only works much much better but also has shared con ports for other software to also control the K Line. Plus he responds to any problem with a much more professional attitude than others do. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.homedns.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Manthey Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 2:45 PM To: Tom Blahovici Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA I use Tom ' s software. It is stable and controls the elecraft line like no other. There are a few issues that he has told us about and did say elecraft was notified and later I recheck and he did not hear back from them. This software should be on the elecraft site. It controls the K-Line as well as the KX3 and has a terminal window. I hope this issue gets resolved as the Win4k3suite is outstanding. Hoping for a fast solution Gerald - KC6CNN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@kq8m.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Clueless?? 1) The radio is to select a specific signal and provide the tools to decode it. It very well could be to determine the source of undesirable noise. Those tools include noise blanking, noise reduction, agc, selectable filtering, a panadapter, etc. Each tool applied as appropriate to the conditions. 2) The panadapter is simply one of those tools to show me the activity over a band of frequencies, whatever that activity might be. Jim, W4ATK On 8/15/2014 2:50 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: Another clueless replier... Have you even tried the NB in the P3 vs the SVGA screen. Obviously not. Sounds like your ideal radio would have no NB, NR, and heck no AGC. Just noise,noise,noise Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592144.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jim.w4...@gmail.com . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
If my memory serves me, I believe Paul announced the NB function would be available on the P3/SVGA at a later FW update. I must go back a few weeks to find that posting or perhaps you could do a search. I'm in digest mode so hopefully this will get though. 73 Dale, K9VUJ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Message-ID: <1408120570747-7592124.p...@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jim, You are mixing 2 completely different items. The decoding of the digital signals I could care less how that works. I don't use that function. I am saying that on the P3 screen with the NB on I can see weaker signals than I can see on the P3SVGA screen. The noise blanker does not work on the P3SVGA board. I would like to see the NB function with the P3SVGA screen. I also stated that to read the ad for the P3 it reads that I should expect to see the same screen on the P3SVGA as I see on the P3. Only with higher resolution. But that's not true. Since the NB only works on the P3 the screens are different. Keith __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Another clueless replier... Have you even tried the NB in the P3 vs the SVGA screen. Obviously not. Sounds like your ideal radio would have no NB, NR, and heck no AGC. Just noise,noise,noise Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592144.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
I am sorry, I found the P3SVGA add on to be quite adequate. Perhaps you can share your findings of the short fall. I may be in error, but I believe the P3SVGA is operating on the data from the P3 FFT. I expect a panadapter to display what is impinging my antenna, not the result of processing later down the line. I can see signals in respect to noise, and that is what I would want, not signals in spite of noise. But then again, I am old school. JIm, W4ATK On 8/15/2014 9:24 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: My complaint is that I feel deceived about this product(P3SVGA add-on). Looking at the description I am lead to believe that the P3SVGA add-on board will allow me to view what I am seeing on the P3 on a large external screen. That is the way I read the ad. But this is NOT the case. I feel kinda cheated on this product. The ad needs to be changed to reflect this point. The P3SVGA display is NOT a copy of the P3 screen. I know the digital decoding is added. By the way has, for me using a K3 for 6 years, never worked well enough on weak signals to be beneficial. Whatever happens the NB is something I'd like to see added and I will lobby for it as much as I can. Hoping someday to see this added. 73, Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592116.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jim.w4...@gmail.com . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
I use Tom ' s software. It is stable and controls the elecraft line like no other. There are a few issues that he has told us about and did say elecraft was notified and later I recheck and he did not hear back from them. This software should be on the elecraft site. It controls the K-Line as well as the KX3 and has a terminal window. I hope this issue gets resolved as the Win4k3suite is outstanding. Hoping for a fast solution Gerald - KC6CNN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Also -- the K3 NB is really two NBs, and the one that looks at broadband noise DOES work in both the P3 and P3SVGA. Jim, that information is incorrect. The K3 NB can not possibly have any impact on the P3 or P3SVGA as the IF pick-off is at the output of the first mixer - *before* any noise blanker gate. To confirm this, examine "K3 RF Board 4 of 4" from the June 2010 K3 Schematics package (on-line) and you will find the IF tap from which the P3 is fed is connected to pin 1 - the input - of J77 the NB connector which is *before* any NB action. In order for the hardware IF to be reflected in the P3 the P3 would need to be fed from pin 7 of J77 (NB output). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-15 12:56 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 8/15/2014 9:36 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: I am saying that on the P3 screen with the NB on I can see weaker signals than I can see on the P3SVGA screen. http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm Scroll down to see a photo of how the SVGA compares to the P3 screen. Repeating my advice -- to see very weak signals, we need to do a lot of averaging to get rid of the noise. This is not a "blanking" function, but rather how averaging a spectral display causes random noise to cancel itself out, while discrete signals do not. There are separate display settings for the SVGA and for the P3. The SVGA settings are accessed via the SVGA selection on the Menu. Also -- the K3 NB is really two NBs, and the one that looks at broadband noise DOES work in both the P3 and P3SVGA. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Jim, And there is nothing on the P3 webpage that would lead me to believe that the display on the SVGA screen would differ, other than resolution, than what is seen on the P3 screen. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592136.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 8/15/2014 10:14 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: I hate how every time someone makes a comment that they think is negative to Elecraft the person making the comment is flamed. Who is flaming whom? Certainly not me -- I'm simply trying to help you and others get the most from your gear. And I also pointed you and others to the Elecraft P3 webpage, which clearly describes and shows what the SVGA module does. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Jim, The NB in the P3 is a completely different animal than what is used in the K3. It is more of a visual aid and does not need to worry about the audio. My understanding of this NB is that if used on the audio all you would hear is sounds like a typewriter. The NB in the P3 does an excellent job on the type of noise it is designed to be applied. Before you continue I would suggest you try the NB for the P3. It is wonderful here at my location. All I asked was if there was any news about implementing this NB for the P3SVGA add-on. Since I have the P3SVGA board and a nice display I'd like to see the display without all the extra noise. I hate how every time someone makes a comment that they think is negative to Elecraft the person making the comment is flamed. Most of the flamers have little idea what's happening and I wish they'd keep their mouths shut. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592128.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 8/15/2014 9:36 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: I am saying that on the P3 screen with the NB on I can see weaker signals than I can see on the P3SVGA screen. http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm Scroll down to see a photo of how the SVGA compares to the P3 screen. Repeating my advice -- to see very weak signals, we need to do a lot of averaging to get rid of the noise. This is not a "blanking" function, but rather how averaging a spectral display causes random noise to cancel itself out, while discrete signals do not. There are separate display settings for the SVGA and for the P3. The SVGA settings are accessed via the SVGA selection on the Menu. Also -- the K3 NB is really two NBs, and the one that looks at broadband noise DOES work in both the P3 and P3SVGA. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Jim, You are mixing 2 completely different items. The decoding of the digital signals I could care less how that works. I don't use that function. I am saying that on the P3 screen with the NB on I can see weaker signals than I can see on the P3SVGA screen. The noise blanker does not work on the P3SVGA board. I would like to see the NB function with the P3SVGA screen. I also stated that to read the ad for the P3 it reads that I should expect to see the same screen on the P3SVGA as I see on the P3. Only with higher resolution. But that's not true. Since the NB only works on the P3 the screens are different. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592124.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 8/15/2014 7:24 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: The ad needs to be changed to reflect this point. The P3SVGA display is NOT a copy of the P3 screen. I know the digital decoding is added. By the way has, for me using a K3 for 6 years, never worked well enough on weak signals to be beneficial. It isn't clear whether you mean that the P3SVGA doesn't work well displaying weak signals, or that the decoding doesn't work well. First, the decoding is done by the K3, and the P3SVGA simply displays it in a more user-friendly form. Second, the SVGA displays a completely different FFT with more bins (better resolution), with the same frequency and amplitude settings of the P3. The P3SVGA can be set for a very long waterfall time, which is quite useful finding holes in contests and DX pileups. And both the P3 and P3SVGA are VERY good at finding weak signals if set for maximum averaging and fixed tune mode. I regularly use a P3 to find action on VHF, and I've got an LOTW QSL from Iraq because the P3 found him somewhere different from where he was spotted. I work CW, SSB, JT65, FSK441, and ISCAT-B on 6M, so I set the P3 to monitor from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me see action on CW and SSB when I'm in RX mode of one of the WSJT modes. I've picked up at least a dozen grids this season because I saw them on the P3. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Well, you just described my day job. We sell hardware (Ethernet controllers) and the driver I support is open sourced Linux and FreeBSD. There are also closed-source versions but I only do backup-support on those. Yes, it would require more support on Elecraft's end but it wouldn't be impossible to manage, just hard. There's a lot of repeating, "If you can't reproduce it on the official X version driver, then you're on your own." But then again there are a lot of bug fixes that other people can do for you. I don't blame them for not doing it, but I'm still on the "It would be nice" side of this. Oe Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Chester Alderman wrote: To me that is just a silly expectation for ANY ham radio manufacturer to consider. Can you just imagine what a quagmire Elecraft would generate if they open-sourced their firmware? They would have to stop producing profitable products just to spend time trying to pull software 'expurts' out of the trouble they themselves generated. And once the 'community' turned the firmware into total trash, then you would expect Elecraft to bail you out -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com - K7EMI BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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To me that is just a silly expectation for ANY ham radio manufacturer to consider. Can you just imagine what a quagmire Elecraft would generate if they open-sourced their firmware? They would have to stop producing profitable products just to spend time trying to pull software 'expurts' out of the trouble they themselves generated. And once the 'community' turned the firmware into total trash, then you would expect Elecraft to bail you out Just my .02c Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Slava Baytalskiy Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 9:14 AM To: Joe Subich, W4TV Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA And that's why people came with Open Source concept. Historically, proprietary platforms have been eliminated or converted to either completely Open Source or partially, similar to what Apple did: the platform is semi-open in the sense that nothing goes to Production without their validation and approval. I believe this model could work very nicely for Elecraft. Publish the bare-bones design and have the community take a stab at it. You could still maintain the basic approach and have some immutable things in there, that we can't change. But majority of these requests are outside of the basic design. Such model allows a company to maintain a relatively small support staff but still be "out there" as far as usability and community support. Just my .02c __ Slava (Sal) B, W2RMS w2...@arrl.net On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > > The only time, I have had a resolution to an issue is when a well > > know person from Microham, reported the issue in a much more, how > > can I say, forward way that I do, and it was resolved within a month. > > Elecraft is quite responsive (issues a fix) if an issue is serious. > However, I have always received an acknowledgement of requests for > feature/API change when submitted through the developer channels. > That answer has not always been what I wanted to hear and I have a > long list of requests that have either been rejected or are on the low > priority list (in other words, not likely in my lifetime). > > Others are correct, the Elecraft development staff is small. That > means, of necessity, a large percentage of their time must be devoted > to work on new products with the majority of support for existing > products reserved for issues that cause equipment failure (e.g., the > input queue overflow). > > On the other hand, when it comes to issues that cause improper > operation, Elecraft is orders of magnitude more responsive than some > logging software developers who do things that cause crashes (like > fast polling during transmit). > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 2014-08-15 12:40 AM, Tom Blahovici wrote: >> Ok, now I am going to be the "squeaky wheel". >> I am the author of Win4K3Suite. With a customer base of a few hundred users (not one or two users) I have numerous times reported bugs and deficiencies in the Elecraft API through the elecraft support channels as well as directly to Wayne and have never had the decency of getting a reply. Support replies and tells me "It was forwarded to Wayne" >> >> Not even "we are aware and this is in a future release". >> >> This has been very frustrating and my response to my customers has been "I told them about it and haven't heard anything". For a company that provides such a comprehensive API and support, to totally ignore comments from people who use their API as extensively as I do, is very unprofessional and very frustrating. >> >> The only time, I have had a resolution to an issue is when a well know person from Microham, reported the issue in a much more, how can I say, forward way that I do, and it was resolved within a month. >> The fact is that Elecraft has an API and encourages developers to develop products. But somehow, it seems to me if the products do not match their "vision" on what the radio should be they are ignored. That has been the case for me. >> Here is something important: I have about 20 users that bought the radio because of my software. It hides the complexities and makes it very easy to use. Is this against the Elecraft wishes for their radio? I have to think so since I have 4 times requested to have my software listed on the Elecraft Website, under third party software and even Eric asked me to send a blurb but I never got a response at all. 4 times over 1 and 1/2 years. >> So, unless many users ask for something on the forum, the priority is low. If a developer who has a few hundred users asks for something in a nice way, several times, it's ignored. So is thi
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
> Has the NB on the P3 gone beyond the beta stage? Yes, it is in production firmware 1.29 although the Owner's Manual (Rev D) and Programmer's Reference (Rev A4) do not appear to have been updated to include the feature. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-15 10:45 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: Are you complaining because you see *more* info on the SVGA than on the P3? Or is this your NB issue? Has the NB on the P3 gone beyond the beta stage? If not it cannot be advertised at all. Anyway, I seldom use it with the P3. Phil W7OX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I am saying I see signals on the P3 with the NB on that I can not see on the P3SVGA screen. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592118.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Are you complaining because you see *more* info on the SVGA than on the P3? Or is this your NB issue? Has the NB on the P3 gone beyond the beta stage? If not it cannot be advertised at all. Anyway, I seldom use it with the P3. Phil W7OX On 8/15/14, 7:24 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: My complaint is that I feel deceived about this product(P3SVGA add-on). Looking at the description I am lead to believe that the P3SVGA add-on board will allow me to view what I am seeing on the P3 on a large external screen. That is the way I read the ad. But this is NOT the case. I feel kinda cheated on this product. The ad needs to be changed to reflect this point. The P3SVGA display is NOT a copy of the P3 screen. I know the digital decoding is added. By the way has, for me using a K3 for 6 years, never worked well enough on weak signals to be beneficial. Whatever happens the NB is something I'd like to see added and I will lobby for it as much as I can. Hoping someday to see this added. 73, Keith __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
My complaint is that I feel deceived about this product(P3SVGA add-on). Looking at the description I am lead to believe that the P3SVGA add-on board will allow me to view what I am seeing on the P3 on a large external screen. That is the way I read the ad. But this is NOT the case. I feel kinda cheated on this product. The ad needs to be changed to reflect this point. The P3SVGA display is NOT a copy of the P3 screen. I know the digital decoding is added. By the way has, for me using a K3 for 6 years, never worked well enough on weak signals to be beneficial. Whatever happens the NB is something I'd like to see added and I will lobby for it as much as I can. Hoping someday to see this added. 73, Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592116.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
And that's why people came with Open Source concept. Historically, proprietary platforms have been eliminated or converted to either completely Open Source or partially, similar to what Apple did: the platform is semi-open in the sense that nothing goes to Production without their validation and approval. I believe this model could work very nicely for Elecraft. Publish the bare-bones design and have the community take a stab at it. You could still maintain the basic approach and have some immutable things in there, that we can't change. But majority of these requests are outside of the basic design. Such model allows a company to maintain a relatively small support staff but still be "out there" as far as usability and community support. Just my .02c __ Slava (Sal) B, W2RMS w2...@arrl.net On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > > The only time, I have had a resolution to an issue is when a well > > know person from Microham, reported the issue in a much more, how can > > I say, forward way that I do, and it was resolved within a month. > > Elecraft is quite responsive (issues a fix) if an issue is serious. > However, I have always received an acknowledgement of requests for > feature/API change when submitted through the developer channels. > That answer has not always been what I wanted to hear and I have a > long list of requests that have either been rejected or are on the > low priority list (in other words, not likely in my lifetime). > > Others are correct, the Elecraft development staff is small. That > means, of necessity, a large percentage of their time must be devoted > to work on new products with the majority of support for existing > products reserved for issues that cause equipment failure (e.g., the > input queue overflow). > > On the other hand, when it comes to issues that cause improper > operation, Elecraft is orders of magnitude more responsive than some > logging software developers who do things that cause crashes (like > fast polling during transmit). > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 2014-08-15 12:40 AM, Tom Blahovici wrote: >> Ok, now I am going to be the “squeaky wheel”. >> I am the author of Win4K3Suite. With a customer base of a few hundred users >> (not one or two users) I have numerous times reported bugs and deficiencies >> in the Elecraft API through the elecraft support channels as well as >> directly to Wayne and have never had the decency of getting a reply. Support >> replies and tells me “It was forwarded to Wayne" >> >> Not even “we are aware and this is in a future release”. >> >> This has been very frustrating and my response to my customers has been “I >> told them about it and haven’t heard anything”. For a company that provides >> such a comprehensive API and support, to totally ignore comments from people >> who use their API as extensively as I do, is very unprofessional and very >> frustrating. >> >> The only time, I have had a resolution to an issue is when a well know >> person from Microham, reported the issue in a much more, how can I say, >> forward way that I do, and it was resolved within a month. >> The fact is that Elecraft has an API and encourages developers to develop >> products. But somehow, it seems to me if the products do not match their >> “vision” on what the radio should be they are ignored. That has been the >> case for me. >> Here is something important: I have about 20 users that bought the radio >> because of my software. It hides the complexities and makes it very easy to >> use. Is this against the Elecraft wishes for their radio? I have to think >> so since I have 4 times requested to have my software listed on the Elecraft >> Website, under third party software and even Eric asked me to send a blurb >> but I never got a response at all. 4 times over 1 and 1/2 years. >> So, unless many users ask for something on the forum, the priority is low. >> If a developer who has a few hundred users asks for something in a nice way, >> several times, it’s ignored. So is this the future of Elecrafts third party >> support? Does my name have to be J** to get something done? >> This is extremely frustrating, and I have a couple of hundred people that >> want a few things to be done but all I can tell them “I asked but never >> heard ANYTHING”. So, maybe it’s time to be a “squeaky wheel” like now. >> Tom Blahovici VA2FSQ >> Win4K3Suite. >> >> On Aug 14, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: >> >>> my previous reply was the short answer, here is the long answer: >>> >>> reference: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg171471.html >>> >>> to quote Wayne from 7/10/2014 7:55 PM >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority >>> is democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard >>> methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, >>> head-cou
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
> The only time, I have had a resolution to an issue is when a well > know person from Microham, reported the issue in a much more, how can > I say, forward way that I do, and it was resolved within a month. Elecraft is quite responsive (issues a fix) if an issue is serious. However, I have always received an acknowledgement of requests for feature/API change when submitted through the developer channels. That answer has not always been what I wanted to hear and I have a long list of requests that have either been rejected or are on the low priority list (in other words, not likely in my lifetime). Others are correct, the Elecraft development staff is small. That means, of necessity, a large percentage of their time must be devoted to work on new products with the majority of support for existing products reserved for issues that cause equipment failure (e.g., the input queue overflow). On the other hand, when it comes to issues that cause improper operation, Elecraft is orders of magnitude more responsive than some logging software developers who do things that cause crashes (like fast polling during transmit). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-15 12:40 AM, Tom Blahovici wrote: Ok, now I am going to be the “squeaky wheel”. I am the author of Win4K3Suite. With a customer base of a few hundred users (not one or two users) I have numerous times reported bugs and deficiencies in the Elecraft API through the elecraft support channels as well as directly to Wayne and have never had the decency of getting a reply. Support replies and tells me “It was forwarded to Wayne" Not even “we are aware and this is in a future release”. This has been very frustrating and my response to my customers has been “I told them about it and haven’t heard anything”. For a company that provides such a comprehensive API and support, to totally ignore comments from people who use their API as extensively as I do, is very unprofessional and very frustrating. The only time, I have had a resolution to an issue is when a well know person from Microham, reported the issue in a much more, how can I say, forward way that I do, and it was resolved within a month. The fact is that Elecraft has an API and encourages developers to develop products. But somehow, it seems to me if the products do not match their “vision” on what the radio should be they are ignored. That has been the case for me. Here is something important: I have about 20 users that bought the radio because of my software. It hides the complexities and makes it very easy to use. Is this against the Elecraft wishes for their radio? I have to think so since I have 4 times requested to have my software listed on the Elecraft Website, under third party software and even Eric asked me to send a blurb but I never got a response at all. 4 times over 1 and 1/2 years. So, unless many users ask for something on the forum, the priority is low. If a developer who has a few hundred users asks for something in a nice way, several times, it’s ignored. So is this the future of Elecrafts third party support? Does my name have to be J** to get something done? This is extremely frustrating, and I have a couple of hundred people that want a few things to be done but all I can tell them “I asked but never heard ANYTHING”. So, maybe it’s time to be a “squeaky wheel” like now. Tom Blahovici VA2FSQ Win4K3Suite. On Aug 14, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: my previous reply was the short answer, here is the long answer: reference: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg171471.html to quote Wayne from 7/10/2014 7:55 PM Hi all, Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority is democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, head-counting, arm-wrestling-over-a-beer, and a healthy dose of what-we-have-time-for. It is not practical for us to publish the lists. They change daily and contain a lot of firmware-speak. We'd rather spend time actually making changes than on sanitizing lists for public consumption. This is also the reason that we can't make announcements of the form "We will not ever get to feature X." (Imagine trying to do that with your personal Home Repair task list. Would your spouse let you unilaterally decide to remove some of them?) We'd rather be optimistic about it, since you never know when one of our overworked engineers is going to get some unexpected free time. The most useful guidance I can give you is this. If only one or two users are affected by a particular change, it is less likely to be implemented in the near future. If nearly all users are affected, it darn well better be fixed instantly. Everything else is in a sort of gray zone (see "Determination of Priority," above). I take responsibility for any muttered oaths against Elecraft pertaining to implementation delays. If it's a
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Ok, now I am going to be the “squeaky wheel”. I am the author of Win4K3Suite. With a customer base of a few hundred users (not one or two users) I have numerous times reported bugs and deficiencies in the Elecraft API through the elecraft support channels as well as directly to Wayne and have never had the decency of getting a reply. Support replies and tells me “It was forwarded to Wayne" Not even “we are aware and this is in a future release”. This has been very frustrating and my response to my customers has been “I told them about it and haven’t heard anything”. For a company that provides such a comprehensive API and support, to totally ignore comments from people who use their API as extensively as I do, is very unprofessional and very frustrating. The only time, I have had a resolution to an issue is when a well know person from Microham, reported the issue in a much more, how can I say, forward way that I do, and it was resolved within a month. The fact is that Elecraft has an API and encourages developers to develop products. But somehow, it seems to me if the products do not match their “vision” on what the radio should be they are ignored. That has been the case for me. Here is something important: I have about 20 users that bought the radio because of my software. It hides the complexities and makes it very easy to use. Is this against the Elecraft wishes for their radio? I have to think so since I have 4 times requested to have my software listed on the Elecraft Website, under third party software and even Eric asked me to send a blurb but I never got a response at all. 4 times over 1 and 1/2 years. So, unless many users ask for something on the forum, the priority is low. If a developer who has a few hundred users asks for something in a nice way, several times, it’s ignored. So is this the future of Elecrafts third party support? Does my name have to be J** to get something done? This is extremely frustrating, and I have a couple of hundred people that want a few things to be done but all I can tell them “I asked but never heard ANYTHING”. So, maybe it’s time to be a “squeaky wheel” like now. Tom Blahovici VA2FSQ Win4K3Suite. On Aug 14, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: > my previous reply was the short answer, here is the long answer: > > reference: > http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg171471.html > > to quote Wayne from 7/10/2014 7:55 PM > > > Hi all, > > Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority is > democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard > methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, > head-counting, arm-wrestling-over-a-beer, and a healthy dose of > what-we-have-time-for. > > It is not practical for us to publish the lists. They change daily and > contain a lot of firmware-speak. We'd rather spend time actually making > changes than on sanitizing lists for public consumption. > > This is also the reason that we can't make announcements of the form "We will > not ever get to feature X." (Imagine trying to do that with your personal > Home Repair task list. Would your spouse let you unilaterally decide to > remove some of them?) We'd rather be optimistic about it, since you never > know when one of our overworked engineers is going to get some unexpected > free time. > > The most useful guidance I can give you is this. If only one or two users are > affected by a particular change, it is less likely to be implemented in the > near future. If nearly all users are affected, it darn well better be fixed > instantly. Everything else is in a sort of gray zone (see "Determination of > Priority," above). > > I take responsibility for any muttered oaths against Elecraft pertaining to > implementation delays. If it's any comfort: I read all the mail and lose > sleep over things we can't get to. All I can say is that we try to make the > best decisions we can, given engineering time available. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > On 8/14/2014 4:55 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: >> I doesn't have anything to do with one of their new products, so there >> is no reason to waste electrons asking or commenting. >> >> They will get around to it when and if they ever decide to, or are >> allowed to, work on something P3 or K3 related, and no amount of asking >> will change that. >> >> Sam >> >> On 8/14/2014 4:35 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: >>> I must be the only one that has bought a P3 with the SVGA board. If >>> no one >>> else is interested in the NB like the P3 normal display. >>> >>> Keith >> > > -- > GB & 73 > K5OAI > Sam Morgan > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this ema
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Hi Keith, I might be interested but I didn't bother downloading the firmware because I never look at the P3 screen, only the SVGA screen. How well does it work and weren't there some caveats mentioned in the release notes? 73, Mike K2MK XE3/K5ENS wrote > I must be the only one that has bought a P3 with the SVGA board. If no > one else is interested in the NB like the P3 normal display. > > Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592095.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
my previous reply was the short answer, here is the long answer: reference: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg171471.html to quote Wayne from 7/10/2014 7:55 PM Hi all, Our firmware task lists are sorted by priority. Determination of Priority is democratic to some degree (Squeaky Wheel and other industry standard methodologies). But in practice it involves crystal-ball-gazing, head-counting, arm-wrestling-over-a-beer, and a healthy dose of what-we-have-time-for. It is not practical for us to publish the lists. They change daily and contain a lot of firmware-speak. We'd rather spend time actually making changes than on sanitizing lists for public consumption. This is also the reason that we can't make announcements of the form "We will not ever get to feature X." (Imagine trying to do that with your personal Home Repair task list. Would your spouse let you unilaterally decide to remove some of them?) We'd rather be optimistic about it, since you never know when one of our overworked engineers is going to get some unexpected free time. The most useful guidance I can give you is this. If only one or two users are affected by a particular change, it is less likely to be implemented in the near future. If nearly all users are affected, it darn well better be fixed instantly. Everything else is in a sort of gray zone (see "Determination of Priority," above). I take responsibility for any muttered oaths against Elecraft pertaining to implementation delays. If it's any comfort: I read all the mail and lose sleep over things we can't get to. All I can say is that we try to make the best decisions we can, given engineering time available. 73, Wayne N6KR On 8/14/2014 4:55 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: I doesn't have anything to do with one of their new products, so there is no reason to waste electrons asking or commenting. They will get around to it when and if they ever decide to, or are allowed to, work on something P3 or K3 related, and no amount of asking will change that. Sam On 8/14/2014 4:35 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: I must be the only one that has bought a P3 with the SVGA board. If no one else is interested in the NB like the P3 normal display. Keith -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
I have a P3, my second. The first one had the SVGA card and I have not missed a noise blanker at all, and I live in a garden home community with lots of noise from every imaginable source. A noise blanker is only effective against high rise time impulse noise I wonder if it would truly be effective. 73s Jim, W4ATk On 8/14/2014 4:55 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: I doesn't have anything to do with one of their new products, so there is no reason to waste electrons asking or commenting. They will get around to it when and if they ever decide to, or are allowed to, work on something P3 or K3 related, and no amount of asking will change that. Sam On 8/14/2014 4:35 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: I must be the only one that has bought a P3 with the SVGA board. If no one else is interested in the NB like the P3 normal display. Keith __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jim.w4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
I doesn't have anything to do with one of their new products, so there is no reason to waste electrons asking or commenting. They will get around to it when and if they ever decide to, or are allowed to, work on something P3 or K3 related, and no amount of asking will change that. Sam On 8/14/2014 4:35 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: I must be the only one that has bought a P3 with the SVGA board. If no one else is interested in the NB like the P3 normal display. Keith __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
I must be the only one that has bought a P3 with the SVGA board. If no one else is interested in the NB like the P3 normal display. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7592060p7592086.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Also make sure you are powering the P3 from an adequate power supply (at least 1 A). The SVGA option adds enough current that the 12 V output on unmodified older K3s may not be able to supply enough current for proper operation of the P3 and SVGA together. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > It sounds like the SVGA board is not powering up, or there is something > wrong with it. Be sure to check the 40 pin connector between the P3 I/O > board (serial board) and the SVGA board, and make sure it is aligned > properly and that all pins are inserted correctly. Then look at the 40 pin > ribbon cable and make sure it is connected correctly to the SVGA board. If > it all looks correct and you're still not able to get it to work, please > call Elecraft customer support and we'll get you straightened out. > > 73, > > Paul > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7590405p7590429.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to elist_c...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Hi Phil, It sounds like the SVGA board is not powering up, or there is something wrong with it. Be sure to check the 40 pin connector between the P3 I/O board (serial board) and the SVGA board, and make sure it is aligned properly and that all pins are inserted correctly. Then look at the 40 pin ribbon cable and make sure it is connected correctly to the SVGA board. If it all looks correct and you're still not able to get it to work, please call Elecraft customer support and we'll get you straightened out. 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-tp7590405p7590429.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Must the firmware be installed first? If it would start now, I'd do the firmware. Phil On 6/22/2014 9:19 PM, Nr4c wrote: Look carefully at the insertion of the P3SVGA board in the P3 board. Also, have you installed the FW on the P3 to utilize the SVGA addition? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Phil Theis wrote: Installed P3SVGA in a P3 this weekend. The P3 starts up, says "waiting for SVGA" and shuts off. Any idea what's up? thanks, Phil K3TUF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Look carefully at the insertion of the P3SVGA board in the P3 board. Also, have you installed the FW on the P3 to utilize the SVGA addition? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Phil Theis wrote: > > Installed P3SVGA in a P3 this weekend. > The P3 starts up, says "waiting for SVGA" and shuts off. > Any idea what's up? > thanks, > Phil K3TUF > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option - Split Screen?
I wanted that from the first. My suggestion was effectively a P3 with no LCD screen but that required an external monitor. As the song goes "You can't always get what you want" 73, Charlie k3ICH - Original Message - From: "Slava Baytalskiy" To: Cc: "Dauer, Edward" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option - Split Screen? You know what I would buy in an instant? The P3-SVGA card but without the P3 chassis. If that was available as an add-on to the K3. Bring-your-own-display sort of an option. Have a VGA or dvi or maybe even HDMI (much smaller) in the back of a K3. Is that possible? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Ted, The SVGA option for the P3 requires a dedicated monitor screen. It cannot be shared with the output of a computer. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/8/2014 7:43 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote: I am thinking of adding the SVGA option to my K3-P3. It would be neat to have a single wide screen monitor running split screen, with the P3 display on one side and a logging/spotting program on the other - or if necessary, alternate screen keyed from the computer keyboard. Anyone know if this can be done (by someone who is neither an electrical engineer nor a computer whiz)? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to sla...@nullserv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option - Split Screen?
You know what I would buy in an instant? The P3-SVGA card but without the P3 chassis. If that was available as an add-on to the K3. Bring-your-own-display sort of an option. Have a VGA or dvi or maybe even HDMI (much smaller) in the back of a K3. Is that possible? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Ted, > > The SVGA option for the P3 requires a dedicated monitor screen. It cannot be > shared with the output of a computer. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 4/8/2014 7:43 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote: >> I am thinking of adding the SVGA option to my K3-P3. It would be neat to >> have a single wide screen monitor running split screen, with the P3 display >> on one side and a logging/spotting program on the other - or if necessary, >> alternate screen keyed from the computer keyboard. Anyone know if this can >> be done (by someone who is neither an electrical engineer nor a computer >> whiz)? > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to sla...@nullserv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option - Split Screen?
Hi Ted, I don't have split screen but I do have my external monitor running dual purposes. Most LCD monitors have double or triple inputs these days. And many PCs have 2 or more video outputs. You hook up the P3 SVGA card to the VGA input of the monitor and you hook up the DVI monitor input to the DVI output from your PC. (Your primary PC monitor would run off of the VGA output of your PC). My monitor has a button on the front that allows it to be quickly switched between the VGA (P3) and the DVI (PC) inputs. You would want to avoid a monitor that does not have a dedicated button. And while I am an electrical engineer I think I explained this in layman terms. 73, Mike K2MK Dauer, Edward wrote > I am thinking of adding the SVGA option to my K3-P3. It would be neat to > have a single wide screen monitor running split screen, with the P3 > display on one side and a logging/spotting program on the other - or if > necessary, alternate screen keyed from the computer keyboard. Anyone know > if this can be done (by someone who is neither an electrical engineer nor > a computer whiz)? > > Ted, KN1CBR -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-Option-Split-Screen-tp7586830p7586859.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Option - Split Screen?
Ted, The SVGA option for the P3 requires a dedicated monitor screen. It cannot be shared with the output of a computer. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/8/2014 7:43 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote: I am thinking of adding the SVGA option to my K3-P3. It would be neat to have a single wide screen monitor running split screen, with the P3 display on one side and a logging/spotting program on the other - or if necessary, alternate screen keyed from the computer keyboard. Anyone know if this can be done (by someone who is neither an electrical engineer nor a computer whiz)? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Logitech K360 keyboard won't pair
You were right, Paul. I had unpaired it before when removing the receiver from the computer, thinking I'd restore it to the out-of-box condition. Pairing it in the computer and then moving it did the trick. A nice feature of the K360, besides the wireless operation and its compact size, is the on/off switch, which I use to prevent the (four!) cats from sending gibberish when they walk across it. Thanks again, Paul. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Hi Jim, The P3/SVGA sees the K360 keyboard as simply a 'keyboard' and doesn't know about pairing.Have you tried removing and replacing the batteries in the keyboard yet? Looking at mine, there aren't any buttons inside the keyboard to push. Maybe you have to remove the unifying remote from the computer, and then put it back after the keyboard finds the P3 dongle. Just guessing. -Paul __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Logitech K360 keyboard won't pair
BTW, two days ago it was $4 cheaper and shipped free with Amazon Prime! 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Hi Paul, I moved the Unifying Receiver from the SVGA and connected it to a computer that was new to any Logitech receiver. The Logitech program showed the receiver was still paired to the K360. I unpaired it and tried it again in the SVGA but no joy. I plugged a corded K120 KB into the SVGA, and it works fine. I liked the K360 so much I wanted to experiment with my computer and made it "forget" the SVGA. BTW, I just got a http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005BZNDOO/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1 and like it at the 1920 X 1024 resolution with both fonts in the SVGA menu at 2. I have it sitting on my 87A "backup" amplifier. Thanks for your help. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Hi Jim, The P3/SVGA sees the K360 keyboard as simply a 'keyboard' and doesn't know about pairing.Have you tried removing and replacing the batteries in the keyboard yet? Looking at mine, there aren't any buttons inside the keyboard to push. Maybe you have to remove the unifying remote from the computer, and then put it back after the keyboard finds the P3 dongle. Just guessing. -Paul __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Logitech K360 keyboard won't pair
Hi Paul, I moved the Unifying Receiver from the SVGA and connected it to a computer that was new to any Logitech receiver. The Logitech program showed the receiver was still paired to the K360. I unpaired it and tried it again in the SVGA but no joy. I plugged a corded K120 KB into the SVGA, and it works fine. I liked the K360 so much I wanted to experiment with my computer and made it "forget" the SVGA. BTW, I just got a http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005BZNDOO/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1 and like it at the 1920 X 1024 resolution with both fonts in the SVGA menu at 2. I have it sitting on my 87A "backup" amplifier. Thanks for your help. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Hi Jim, The P3/SVGA sees the K360 keyboard as simply a 'keyboard' and doesn't know about pairing.Have you tried removing and replacing the batteries in the keyboard yet? Looking at mine, there aren't any buttons inside the keyboard to push. Maybe you have to remove the unifying remote from the computer, and then put it back after the keyboard finds the P3 dongle. Just guessing. -Paul __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Logitech K360 keyboard won't pair
I've moved two K360s back and forth between several devices, including the P3/SVGA, many times. Nothing special was required; each pair hooked up again when plugged into the new device. 73, matt W6NIA On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:09:37 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Hi Jim, > >The P3/SVGA sees the K360 keyboard as simply a 'keyboard' and doesn't know >about pairing.Have you tried removing and replacing the batteries in the >keyboard yet? Looking at mine, there aren't any buttons inside the >keyboard to push. Maybe you have to remove the unifying remote from the >computer, and then put it back after the keyboard finds the P3 dongle. > >Just guessing. > >-Paul Matt Zilmer, W6NIA www.elecraft.com 831-763-4211 x129 Skype: matt.zilmer __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Logitech K360 keyboard won't pair
Hi Jim, The P3/SVGA sees the K360 keyboard as simply a 'keyboard' and doesn't know about pairing.Have you tried removing and replacing the batteries in the keyboard yet? Looking at mine, there aren't any buttons inside the keyboard to push. Maybe you have to remove the unifying remote from the computer, and then put it back after the keyboard finds the P3 dongle. Just guessing. -Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-Logitech-K360-keyboard-won-t-pair-tp7586114p7586118.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA windowing
Hi The Avermedia Hd game broadcaster with the vga input will work alone, or with win4k3suite which allows point and click Qsy. Be aware however, that the 32 bit drivers have issues. On a 64 bit system they work fine. 73s Tom Va2fsq.com Original message From: Howard Hoyt Date: 28/02/2014 11:18 (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA windowing Hi, I really appreciate the higher resolution and detail available using the P3SVGA, but I have no room for a separate monitor in my setup. I have been using the monitor's input switching to see the P3SVGA's display but it is clumsy and slow, and I want to be able to see my logging software simultaneously with the P3SVGA. The monitor is big enough that I would be able to display the P3SVGA display in a window. I have already tried a VGA to HDMI converter looped into the HDMI input of my Blackmagic video acquisition card, but some video parameter is incompatible (horiz/vert freq, etc.) and I get no output. Here is my question: What VGA acquisition device (VGA>USB2/3, VGA>HDMI, VGA>FW400/800...) if any have other P3SVGA owners used that works correctly in Win7? Thanks in advance! Howie - WA4PSC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Missing Fn key display on P3 after installing P3SVGA
Thanks Paul, I missed that. Rick K6LE On 4/15/2013, at 8:35 , Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote: > Hi Rick, > > The feature to save and restore keyboard messages and macros is already > implemented in the current version of firmware (1.26/1.16) Located in the > SVGA sub-menu are "Usav" and "Urst" which save and restore the > messages,macros and Ctrl-Alt-S settings. Simply remove the keyboard and > insert a thumb drive, then use Usav to save or Urst to restore. SVGASET.SAV > is the binary file that is created/read on the thumb drive. > > 73, > > Paul > > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Missing Fn key display on P3 after installing P3SVGA
Hi Rick, The feature to save and restore keyboard messages and macros is already implemented in the current version of firmware (1.26/1.16) Located in the SVGA sub-menu are "Usav" and "Urst" which save and restore the messages,macros and Ctrl-Alt-S settings. Simply remove the keyboard and insert a thumb drive, then use Usav to save or Urst to restore. SVGASET.SAV is the binary file that is created/read on the thumb drive. 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-Missing-Fn-key-display-on-P3-after-installing-P3SVGA-tp7572557p7572622.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Missing Fn key display on P3 after installing P3SVGA
Bob, While I have a few keyboard macros pre-programmed I haven't been near as diligent as you have. Now you have me motivated to basically copy your approach and also to set up several K3 Macros. The question comes to me though about the possible volatility of these macros. I wonder if the software guru's have considered or are working on a way to save the keyboard "load" to a thumb drive the way we can currently save an image? Seems like that would be a great option if possible. Rick On 4/14/2013, at 11:32 , "Wright, Robert" wrote: > Hi Bob, > > A dyslexic typo on my part. Jim is W4ATK. > > The post is here: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-data-RTTY-FSK-D-tp7560370p7560415.html > > > Here is the crux of it: > " I have divided the 50 Text message capability into 4 groups CW (12) > PSK31(12) RTTY (12) and an auxiliary group of 12. They are accessed as F1 > thru F12 (CW), F1 thru F12 (PSK31), F1 thru F12 > (RTTY), and the aux group, F1 thru F12. Each function key > carries basically the same message, just "personalized" for the particular > mode, so other than remembering the correct pre-key, F! is always "CQ". etc. > For the contest I used the aux group, Function Keyes personalized for > the Grid Dip. " > > I'm also interested in other's creative uses for keyboard macros for the > P3SVGA. For instance, I read somewhere that when Elecraft was demoing the > P3SVGA at a tradeshow, they had the up and down arrow keys controlling > frequency in ten Hertz steps. > > 73, Bob N7ZO > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Missing Fn key display on P3 after installing P3SVGA
Hi Bob, A dyslexic typo on my part. Jim is W4ATK. The post is here: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-data-RTTY-FSK-D-tp7560370p7560415.html Here is the crux of it: " I have divided the 50 Text message capability into 4 groups CW (12) PSK31(12) RTTY (12) and an auxiliary group of 12. They are accessed as F1 thru F12 (CW), F1 thru F12 (PSK31), F1 thru F12 (RTTY), and the aux group, F1 thru F12. Each function key carries basically the same message, just "personalized" for the particular mode, so other than remembering the correct pre-key, F! is always "CQ". etc. For the contest I used the aux group, Function Keyes personalized for the Grid Dip. " I'm also interested in other's creative uses for keyboard macros for the P3SVGA. For instance, I read somewhere that when Elecraft was demoing the P3SVGA at a tradeshow, they had the up and down arrow keys controlling frequency in ten Hertz steps. 73, Bob N7ZO -Original Message- From: Bob [mailto:k...@ptd.net] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 9:53 AM To: Wright, Robert Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Missing Fn key display on P3 after installing P3SVGA Hi Bob, I tried to find "Jim's (W4AKT) thoughts" on the P3 macro keys but was unsuccessful in my search. Do you have a link to them or were they in a reflector post you saved and could forward to me?Also possible I've searched for the wrong call as W4AKT is in QRZ with the name Richard and he signed his bio as Rick. Like you I look at what others have done and it leads to many "Why didn't I think of that" moments. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR On 4/14/2013 1:01 AM, Wright, Robert wrote: > Hi Alan, > > > The P3SVGA is impressive. I have been following Jim's (W4AKT) thoughts on > the macro keys. Very powerful. > > Thank you, > 73, Bob N7ZO > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Missing Fn key display on P3 after installing P3SVGA
Hi Alan,
Somehow(he says innocently), in setting all the new SVGA settings and pressing
the menu key many times, I held the menu key too long and activated the
"LABELS" key and turned off the labels. Not a problem with the SVGA option. I
have now re-enabled the labels.
The P3SVGA is impressive. I have been following Jim's (W4AKT) thoughts on the
macro keys. Very powerful.
Thank you,
73, Bob N7ZO
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P3SVGA
It shouldn't affect the function key assignments. You do have the FN labels
turned on with the LABELS key ("hold" key), right? The only other thing I can
suggest is maybe the EEPROM wasn't read properly after cycling power for some
reason. You could try cycling power again.
Alan N1AL
On 4/13/2013 7:55 PM, Wright, Robert wrote:
> I just installed the P3SVGA option and am having a lot of fun programming the
> text message and K3 macros. But I seem to have lost the display of the P3
> function keys assignments that I normally see at the bottom of the P3 LCD
> display. Is this a setting I have screwed up or a bug?
>
> P3 ver 1.26
> P3SVGA ver 1.16
>
> 73, Bob N7ZO
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Re: [Elecraft] [P3SVGA] Missing Fn key display on P3 after installing P3SVGA
It shouldn't affect the function key assignments. You do have the FN
labels turned on with the LABELS key ("hold" key), right? The only
other thing I can suggest is maybe the EEPROM wasn't read properly after
cycling power for some reason. You could try cycling power again.
Alan N1AL
On 4/13/2013 7:55 PM, Wright, Robert wrote:
I just installed the P3SVGA option and am having a lot of fun programming the
text message and K3 macros. But I seem to have lost the display of the P3
function keys assignments that I normally see at the bottom of the P3 LCD
display. Is this a setting I have screwed up or a bug?
P3 ver 1.26
P3SVGA ver 1.16
73, Bob N7ZO
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
I use a 20 inch wide screen wall mounted. I have 4 monitors on my wall. 2 for my computer, one for the P3 and one for my XYLs computer. They are all tied in so either of us can use the radio with computer control. Station pic at my QRZ.com page barry NF1O __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
That's a real waste of the SVGA I would use a larger monitor and wall mount it the only way to fly. 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Fjeld Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:14 PM To: n...@n5ge.com; Harlan Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please I am limited for space. I have a small desktop computer with a 15 inch LCD monitor. I bought an inexpensive VGA A/B switch and a couple VGA cables on eBay. I share the monitor between the P3 and computer. The monitor size is very adequate. YMMV Rich, n0ce - Original Message - From: Tom H Childers To: Harlan Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please I use an old 15 inch 1024 x 768 LCD about six inches further than an arms length from my eyes which does a great job. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:57:06 -0400, Harlan wrote: >Joe, >I have a 20 inch and it is plenty good for these 62 year old eyes. ;) > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > >Joseph Carter wrote: > >>Am thinking of adding the P3SVGA to my P3 - will need to get a new monitor too. >>In reading the eham reviews etc I am wondering about what size monitor folks might recommend. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5705 - Release Date: 03/26/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
I am limited for space. I have a small desktop computer with a 15 inch LCD monitor. I bought an inexpensive VGA A/B switch and a couple VGA cables on eBay. I share the monitor between the P3 and computer. The monitor size is very adequate. YMMV Rich, n0ce - Original Message - From: Tom H Childers To: Harlan Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please I use an old 15 inch 1024 x 768 LCD about six inches further than an arms length from my eyes which does a great job. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:57:06 -0400, Harlan wrote: >Joe, >I have a 20 inch and it is plenty good for these 62 year old eyes. ;) > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > >Joseph Carter wrote: > >>Am thinking of adding the P3SVGA to my P3 - will need to get a new monitor too. >>In reading the eham reviews etc I am wondering about what size monitor folks might recommend. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
These days, it might be less expensive to find a small flat-panel TV set that has VGA input. However, on of the big consumer electronic sites sent me an email today hawking a 20" LED monitor for $99. That seems like a modest price. 73 de Ray K2ULR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
Joe I had a 20' first then switched to a 24" like it a lot better. The prices for a refurb with new warranty was just over $130. Make sure you get one that supports your SVGA card a high Res one. 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Carter Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:54 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please Am thinking of adding the P3SVGA to my P3 - will need to get a new monitor too. In reading the eham reviews etc I am wondering about what size monitor folks might recommend. FYI I am 63 years old and eyes still pretty good other than the "small print conspiracy". Desk space not really an issue. Working distance typical desk-top. Of course typically the "bigger is better" was my first thought but upon reflection perhaps that could be overwhelming. I appreciate the groups wisdom! Love my K3, and KX3! Joe w9jc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6202 - Release Date: 03/24/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6202 - Release Date: 03/24/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
> >I use an old 15 inch 1024 x 768 LCD about six inches further than an arms length >from my eyes which does a great job. > >73, >Tom >Amateur Radio Operator N5GE Same here - a 15 inch 1024 x 768 LCD, but also with the stand removed so the screen sits directly on top of the K3. That places the K3 and the entire display within a single field of vision for the best possible co-ordination between hand, eyes and ears. >From a personal point of view, the next feature I'd like to see in the P3SVGA is point-and-click tuning using a mouse in the USB port. That is one of the few areas where external SDRs continue to score over the P3SVGA. 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I started out with a 22 inch display for the external display, but quickly decided it was too overwhelming for my use. I had a 19 inch Acer sitting around unused and it fit the bill. Plenty big for my 69 year old eyes. - Roger W5RDW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-advice-please-tp7571863p7571872.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
I use an old 15 inch 1024 x 768 LCD about six inches further than an arms length from my eyes which does a great job. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:57:06 -0400, Harlan wrote: >Joe, >I have a 20 inch and it is plenty good for these 62 year old eyes. ;) > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > >Joseph Carter wrote: > >>Am thinking of adding the P3SVGA to my P3 - will need to get a new monitor >>too. >>In reading the eham reviews etc I am wondering about what size monitor folks >>might recommend. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
If you're going to spend $280 for an SVGA board, you might as well go big on the monitor! I have two P3's driving two 23" 1080p LED monitors. The shack looks like the bridge of Starship Enterprise with all those blue screens and strange images. I found my 23" Dell units on Amazon (refurbs) for $85 each. I don't see those particular ones there right now, but there are other refurbs around $100. The wider the monitor, the wider you can set the Span, and still be able to maintain useful resolution of signals. Increased vertical resolution helps to see a longer time history too. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, Arizona -Original Message- From: Joseph Carter Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:53 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please Am thinking of adding the P3SVGA to my P3 - will need to get a new monitor too. In reading the eham reviews etc I am wondering about what size monitor folks might recommend. FYI I am 63 years old and eyes still pretty good other than the "small print conspiracy". Desk space not really an issue. Working distance typical desk-top. Of course typically the "bigger is better" was my first thought but upon reflection perhaps that could be overwhelming. I appreciate the groups wisdom! Love my K3, and KX3! Joe w9jc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
Probably depends upon what you intend to use it for, but for CW S&P contesting, my ACER AL1716 (17") is much larger than necessary to be effective. That's as viewed with eyes that, according to my mother, turned 69 about 4 hours ago. 73, Gary VE1RGB -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Carter Sent: March-25-13 8:54 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please Am thinking of adding the P3SVGA to my P3 - will need to get a new monitor too. In reading the eham reviews etc I am wondering about what size monitor folks might recommend. FYI I am 63 years old and eyes still pretty good other than the "small print conspiracy". Desk space not really an issue. Working distance typical desk-top. Of course typically the "bigger is better" was my first thought but upon reflection perhaps that could be overwhelming. I appreciate the groups wisdom! Love my K3, and KX3! Joe w9jc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA advice please
Joe, I have a 20 inch and it is plenty good for these 62 year old eyes. ;) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Joseph Carter wrote: >Am thinking of adding the P3SVGA to my P3 - will need to get a new monitor too. >In reading the eham reviews etc I am wondering about what size monitor folks >might recommend. >FYI I am 63 years old and eyes still pretty good other than the "small print >conspiracy". >Desk space not really an issue. >Working distance typical desk-top. >Of course typically the "bigger is better" was my first thought but upon >reflection perhaps that >could be overwhelming. >I appreciate the groups wisdom! >Love my K3, and KX3! >Joe >w9jc >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
Thanks for all the inputs on my question concerning the P3/P3SVGA combo vs other alternatives. I learned a lot. After reading them all, I have decided to go with P3SVGA option vs. the LP-Pan option. Appreciate the help. 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
You also do not need an extra computer *or* display for the base P3 and it does not take display space away from the logging software. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/23/2013 11:52 AM, ab2tc wrote: Hi all, You do not need an extra computer or display for use with LP-Pan. This is my usual operating screen on a 21" LCD monitor: http://ab2tc.getmyip.com/MyOperatingScreen.png That is from operating in the French contest this morning. Knut - AB2TC Matt Zilmer wrote I own both. The P3 is by far the better integrated solution. Adding the SVGA to it is a good idea and very useful for a number of functions (decode display mainly), but primarily for the higher resolution and ease of use in a shack setting. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-or-LP-PAN-NaP3-K3-tp7570210p7570251.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
Hi Knut, Just a little clarification for those who may not be familiar with the details of the P3/SVGA: The P3/SVGA combo is used independent of a computer. The monitor connected to the P3/SVGA *may* be the same monitor that you have connected to a computer -- but it cannot be used simultaneously WITH the computer. A switch (either built-in or external to the monitor) would select the source of either computer or P3/SVGA. On the other hand, using LP-PAN/NaP3 *requires* A computer (with a decent sound card) and monitor -- though it does not have to be an EXTRA computer and monitor, as you demonstrated with your screenshot showing a variety of ham radio applications running alongside NaP3. 73, Dale WA8SRA On 2/23/2013 11:52 AM, ab2tc wrote: Hi all, You do not need an extra computer or display for use with LP-Pan. This is my usual operating screen on a 21" LCD monitor: http://ab2tc.getmyip.com/MyOperatingScreen.png That is from operating in the French contest this morning. Knut - AB2TC Matt Zilmer wrote I own both. The P3 is by far the better integrated solution. Adding the SVGA to it is a good idea and very useful for a number of functions (decode display mainly), but primarily for the higher resolution and ease of use in a shack setting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
Hi all, You do not need an extra computer or display for use with LP-Pan. This is my usual operating screen on a 21" LCD monitor: http://ab2tc.getmyip.com/MyOperatingScreen.png That is from operating in the French contest this morning. Knut - AB2TC Matt Zilmer wrote > I own both. The P3 is by far the better integrated solution. Adding > the SVGA to it is a good idea and very useful for a number of > functions (decode display mainly), but primarily for the higher > resolution and ease of use in a shack setting. > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-or-LP-PAN-NaP3-K3-tp7570210p7570251.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
I own both. The P3 is by far the better integrated solution. Adding the SVGA to it is a good idea and very useful for a number of functions (decode display mainly), but primarily for the higher resolution and ease of use in a shack setting. The LP Pan works as advertised, and I bought it before the P3 was available. I don't use the LP Pan any more. Never got into using Skimmer or any other visual aids like it, so there is no specific advantage for the operations I do at home or in the field. For Field Day and field operations in general, the P3 is a lot handier (imho) than the LP Pan. It is just one more box and a cable set, but the LP Pan requires a separate computer for display. I like having a computer alongside the other equipment for logging and for operating digital modes, but don't want to use it for a panadapter function at the same time. Just one more opinion to add to the pile. If you would like to buy a working but used LP-Pan that's set up for the K3 IF, let me know and maybe we could make a deal. 73, matt W6NIA On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:51:19 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >First, I looked in the archives and didn't really find an answer. I have a K3 >and P3 and love the combination, but seeing a P3 with a P3SVGA card in action >at Orlando Hamcation, I have been considering adding the P3SVGA card to my P3. >But have read some articles about the LP-Pan and I am interested in opinions >on overall capabilities of P3/P3SVGA combo vs. LP-Pan/NaP3 combo. The >individual items are roughly the same price. (I understand that an external >sound card will be needed with LP-Pan) So can anyone who has experience with >each, give some opinions on the pluses and minus of each terms of >capabilities, and recommendations on which way to go? > >73 Paul >kc2nyu >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
I've owned and used all three solutions ... P3, SDR-IQ and LP-Pan. I sold LP-Pan and SDR-IQ sets on the shelf. The P3 is used every day. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/22/2013 8:04 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: Option three is an SDR-IQ and Spectravue software. I use LP-Bridge to "connect" the K3, SDR-IQ, N1MM, DXBase (logging) and AXETTY (an MMTTY variant that works with DXBase) together. I use a laptop and a second larger monitor and arrange stuff as needed for different operating modes (i.e RTTY DXing, contesting, etc.) Wes N7WS --- On Thu, 2/21/13, paul ecker wrote: First, I looked in the archives and didn't really find an answer. I have a K3 and P3 and love the combination, but seeing a P3 with a P3SVGA card in action at Orlando Hamcation, I have been considering adding the P3SVGA card to my P3. But have read some articles about the LP-Pan and I am interested in opinions on overall capabilities of P3/P3SVGA combo vs. LP-Pan/NaP3 combo. The individual items are roughly the same price. (I understand that an external sound card will be needed with LP-Pan) So can anyone who has experience with each, give some opinions on the pluses and minus of each terms of capabilities, and recommendations on which way to go? 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
Paul I bought and used an SDR-IQ after I dumped LP-Pan with my 5000 it did work better for sure your right. But still the P3/SVGA comes out on top for all the added features like CW/PSK/RTTY decoding and using the K3 macros to send no computer needed. The SVGA gives you the extra of seeing the larger decoded CW and digital signals a big plus. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:05 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; paul ecker Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3) Option three is an SDR-IQ and Spectravue software. I use LP-Bridge to "connect" the K3, SDR-IQ, N1MM, DXBase (logging) and AXETTY (an MMTTY variant that works with DXBase) together. I use a laptop and a second larger monitor and arrange stuff as needed for different operating modes (i.e RTTY DXing, contesting, etc.) Wes N7WS --- On Thu, 2/21/13, paul ecker wrote: First, I looked in the archives and didn't really find an answer. I have a K3 and P3 and love the combination, but seeing a P3 with a P3SVGA card in action at Orlando Hamcation, I have been considering adding the P3SVGA card to my P3. But have read some articles about the LP-Pan and I am interested in opinions on overall capabilities of P3/P3SVGA combo vs. LP-Pan/NaP3 combo. The individual items are roughly the same price. (I understand that an external sound card will be needed with LP-Pan) So can anyone who has experience with each, give some opinions on the pluses and minus of each terms of capabilities, and recommendations on which way to go? 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
Option three is an SDR-IQ and Spectravue software. I use LP-Bridge to "connect" the K3, SDR-IQ, N1MM, DXBase (logging) and AXETTY (an MMTTY variant that works with DXBase) together. I use a laptop and a second larger monitor and arrange stuff as needed for different operating modes (i.e RTTY DXing, contesting, etc.) Wes N7WS --- On Thu, 2/21/13, paul ecker wrote: First, I looked in the archives and didn't really find an answer. I have a K3 and P3 and love the combination, but seeing a P3 with a P3SVGA card in action at Orlando Hamcation, I have been considering adding the P3SVGA card to my P3. But have read some articles about the LP-Pan and I am interested in opinions on overall capabilities of P3/P3SVGA combo vs. LP-Pan/NaP3 combo. The individual items are roughly the same price. (I understand that an external sound card will be needed with LP-Pan) So can anyone who has experience with each, give some opinions on the pluses and minus of each terms of capabilities, and recommendations on which way to go? 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
Dale, I'm glad you mentioned the taller waterfall display on the external monitor. This fact is important for anybody considering the P3SVGA option. When used in the fixed tune mode I have found it extremely beneficial operating search and pounce in contests. In some contests with long exchanges (like some RTTY contests or the Sweepstakes contest) I can tune in on a waterfall a half inch or more below the the break line and just wait for the station to return. A real point bonanza. 73, Mike K2MK Dale Boresz wrote > Partial quote from Dale: > > but the really big 'plus' to the external monitor for me > is the much longer 'history' capture of the slower and taller waterfall > display - over the smaller P3 screen. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-or-LP-PAN-NaP3-K3-tp7570210p7570225.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
Paul, I started with the LP-Pan and NaP3, and it worked very well. I now have the P3SVGA and like it a *lot*. For some context, I only used 'Fixed Tune' mode with both scenarios, and generally limit the displayed bandwidth to somewhere between 30-50KHz. The P3 screen, though it is small, is very sharp and (IMHO) easy on the eyes when other supporting factors (nature or your glasses) can provide the proper focus for the required viewing distance. The external monitor provides an outstanding large-screen enhancement that makes everything easier to see, but the really big 'plus' to the external monitor for me is the much longer 'history' capture of the slower and taller waterfall display - over the smaller P3 screen. Additionally, the external monitor can be configured to show multiple rows of decoded RTTY (and I think CW) text beneath the waterfall. Very cool! The P3SVGA also has a USB connection that enables you to plug in a keyboard or a wireless keyboard receiver for RTTY and PSK. It may work for sending CW from the keyboard as well, but I'm not sure about that one. (Although I operate about 90% CW, I only use paddles, and don't use the CW decoder, so am not up to speed on those options) The one downside to the P3SVGA is that a Noise Blanker is not a current option for the built-in SDR receivers in the P3/P3SVGA. I frequently have to battle power line noise around here until the local power company gets around to resolving them, and when the poles are roaring, all I see on the P3 display(s) is a noise floor that is elevated to around -90 dBm or so, with only the strongest of signals making their presence known. The NB on the K3 is so effective that with it engaged and properly adjusted, I'd never even know that the powerline noise was still there -- however I may as well turn off the P3 because it shows me very few of the signals that I can otherwise hear on the K3. Perhaps a noise blanker can eventually be implemented into the P3SVGA firmware at some point. That would be a huge help. I see two primary advantages offered by the LP-PAN/NaP3 combo: 1. The effective NB functionality built into PowerSDR quiets the bands very nicely for most powerline and other impulse noise conditions. 2. The ability to click-tune the K3 via a mouse, is very nice -- though I have gotten pretty good at twisting the K3 knob to get me where I want to go in a hurry. One can also use the P3's marker/click-select to do the same thing, but it's not as fast as mouse-clicking on a signal on the panadapter display. That said, the LP-PAN remains on the shelf, and my overall preference by far is the P3SVGA, though I have been thinking about adding the LP-PAN/NaP3 combo back into the mix for those occasions (like now) where I'm waiting for the power company to resolve an issue. 73, Dale WA8SRA On 2/21/2013 5:51 PM, paul ecker wrote: First, I looked in the archives and didn't really find an answer. I have a K3 and P3 and love the combination, but seeing a P3 with a P3SVGA card in action at Orlando Hamcation, I have been considering adding the P3SVGA card to my P3. But have read some articles about the LP-Pan and I am interested in opinions on overall capabilities of P3/P3SVGA combo vs. LP-Pan/NaP3 combo. The individual items are roughly the same price. (I understand that an external sound card will be needed with LP-Pan) So can anyone who has experience with each, give some opinions on the pluses and minus of each terms of capabilities, and recommendations on which way to go? 73 Paul kc2nyu __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3)
I have owned both and if you have a K3 and want the best use the P3/SVGA better integration and do not have to use your computer. There can be software glitches and I had problems with mine keeping it running all the time due to them. I personally would never downgrade to LP-Pan from my P3-SVGA again to much of a step back. Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of paul ecker Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:51 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA or LP-PAN / NaP3 (K3) First, I looked in the archives and didn't really find an answer. I have a K3 and P3 and love the combination, but seeing a P3 with a P3SVGA card in action at Orlando Hamcation, I have been considering adding the P3SVGA card to my P3. But have read some articles about the LP-Pan and I am interested in opinions on overall capabilities of P3/P3SVGA combo vs. LP-Pan/NaP3 combo. The individual items are roughly the same price. (I understand that an external sound card will be needed with LP-Pan) So can anyone who has experience with each, give some opinions on the pluses and minus of each terms of capabilities, and recommendations on which way to go? 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Disappointing text display !?
Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote > Heinz, > > This is a function of how the K3 decodes CR/LF and passes it to the > P3/SVGA. This is on Wayne's list for the K3. > > 73, > -Paul Paul, Thanks! As this may probably be not the only point on Wayne's list, my P3SVGA projects have to wait for some time. 73, Heinz HB9BCB -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-Disappointing-text-display-tp7564803p7564820.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Disappointing text display !?
Heinz, This is a function of how the K3 decodes CR/LF and passes it to the P3/SVGA. This is on Wayne's list for the K3. 73, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-Disappointing-text-display-tp7564803p7564817.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA trace on TX
Hi Stephen, During TX the P3/SVGA's display is frozen. Are you speaking of the TX cursor (red) when working split or when Rit/Xit is turned on? -Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-trace-on-TX-tp7563602p7563618.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA data RTTY FSK D
Now and then I get a little glitch situation where keyboard cntrl does not seem to function and the c is sent instead when looking to clear tx/rx fields etc. Anyone else getting that? On 14084.36 now. RTTY Adrian... vk4tux -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3SVGA-data-RTTY-FSK-D-tp7560370p7560432.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA data RTTY FSK D
Jim, I like your scheme for assigning macros. I think I'll go back and set them up like that. Something I've learned over the last year or so on PSK is if you use a fairly narrow filter (400 or less) you can often let the "Spot" function zero in signals that are of decent strength. Rick K6LE > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W4ATK > Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012 7:11 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA data RTTY FSK D > > I had the opportunity to spend a couple of hours on the TARA Grid > Dip contest Saturday. I choose to work RTTY with the P3SVGA and FSK D. What > a hoot! Everything worked as it should. Each new contact went better than > the previous one. I had quickly put in a couple of text messages for the > contest and they proved to be adequate. > > I have divided the 50 Text message capability into 4 groups CW (12) > PSK31(12) RTTY (12) and an auxillary group of 12. They are accessed as F1 > thru F12 (CW), F1 thru F12 (PSK31), F1 thru F12 > (RTTY), and the aux group, F1 thru F12. Each function key > carries basically the same message, just "personalized" for the particular > mode, so other than remembering the correct pre-key, F! is always "CQ". etc. > For the contest I used the aux group, Function Keyes personalized for > the Grid Dip. > > To make a long story short, this scheme has worked well for me on CW > and RTTY. I must admit tuning PSK31 has been a bit more of a trial but I > have made a few contacts. Clicking on the browser is a lot easier. :-)) > > Jim, W4ATK > > > _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
