Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Renaming widgets to E17 theme might work since that group covers the main e17 interface. Toma On 7/26/08, Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Andrew G. Stack [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi all, The new site looks nice -- I like the fact that it has nice big screen shots and I'm sure it will be less work for morlenxus. :) I'm traveling right now but as soon as I get back I'll get to work on an updated version of steampunk and upload it (I want to theme a few more modules first). One question I have regarding the themes: let's say I was a new user and wanted to download a theme for e17. Where would I look? It seems the themes section is divided up into all the parts of e17 but there is no option for just an e17 theme. Obviously there is no clear definition for what a complete e17 theme might be, for example, mine is missing quite a few parts like entrance, etk ewl widgets, etc., but it seems like an additional tab under themes for e17 themes would be nice. Or maybe a way to rank the themes based on the completeness of their included list? So if I just want to download something to replace the default e17 theme I can browse some of the more complete themes and pick one. I agree: for a new user is such confusing. And another request: IMO we miss an 'homepage' field in apps/modules, for example penguins is in cvs and I don't know where to put the link to the penguins page. Also should be usefull to have the ability to upload more than 1 screenshot. Just my two cents... Thanks Dave Cheers, Andrew (Rooster) --- Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
There is a way to see all the themes that apply to enlightenment. If you go into the enlightenment app http://exchange.enlightenment.org/application/show/4 and scroll down, it shows a list of themes that apply to it. Of course, it shows any theme that applies, not complete themes, so it catches border themes and wallpapers too. There is no practical definition for a complete theme, because there are way too many things to theme, and... even if a theme is complete in themeing everything in the core E, it will probably leave out a whole bunch of 3rd party modules. Also, using widgets can work right now, because all the themes that are complete provide widgets, but.. I actually made half of a widget-only theme.. to be a generic theme that can be matched with some border themes.. so that wont really apply for long.. We need a clear definition, so I can translate that into a category. What do you think about checking for: 1. Border 2. Widget 3. Shelf 4. Wallpaper and if it contains themes for all these components, marking it as an full Enlightenment theme.. Is there something else that needs to be in that list? As far as a homepage link for apps and modules, please feel free to put that link in the description. Most apps and modules in CVS dont have a homepage, so it would be empty for the majority of apps/themes. -Sthitha On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Renaming widgets to E17 theme might work since that group covers the main e17 interface. Toma On 7/26/08, Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Andrew G. Stack [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi all, The new site looks nice -- I like the fact that it has nice big screen shots and I'm sure it will be less work for morlenxus. :) I'm traveling right now but as soon as I get back I'll get to work on an updated version of steampunk and upload it (I want to theme a few more modules first). One question I have regarding the themes: let's say I was a new user and wanted to download a theme for e17. Where would I look? It seems the themes section is divided up into all the parts of e17 but there is no option for just an e17 theme. Obviously there is no clear definition for what a complete e17 theme might be, for example, mine is missing quite a few parts like entrance, etk ewl widgets, etc., but it seems like an additional tab under themes for e17 themes would be nice. Or maybe a way to rank the themes based on the completeness of their included list? So if I just want to download something to replace the default e17 theme I can browse some of the more complete themes and pick one. I agree: for a new user is such confusing. And another request: IMO we miss an 'homepage' field in apps/modules, for example penguins is in cvs and I don't know where to put the link to the penguins page. Also should be usefull to have the ability to upload more than 1 screenshot. Just my two cents... Thanks Dave Cheers, Andrew (Rooster) --- Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-users
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
2008/7/27 Sthithaprajna Garapaty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is a way to see all the themes that apply to enlightenment. If you go into the enlightenment app http://exchange.enlightenment.org/application/show/4 and scroll down, it shows a list of themes that apply to it. Of course, it shows any theme that applies, not complete themes, so it catches border themes and wallpapers too. There is no practical definition for a complete theme, because there are way too many things to theme, and... even if a theme is complete in themeing everything in the core E, it will probably leave out a whole bunch of 3rd party modules. Also, using widgets can work right now, because all the themes that are complete provide widgets, but.. I actually made half of a widget-only theme.. to be a generic theme that can be matched with some border themes.. so that wont really apply for long.. We need a clear definition, so I can translate that into a category. What do you think about checking for: 1. Border 2. Widget 3. Shelf 4. Wallpaper and if it contains themes for all these components, marking it as an full Enlightenment theme.. Is there something else that needs to be in that list? I like it. Personally I never call any of my themes anywhere near dun unlit they have an Execbuf and Winlist theme too. But at the end of the day, theyre still just modules. As far as a homepage link for apps and modules, please feel free to put that link in the description. Most apps and modules in CVS dont have a homepage, so it would be empty for the majority of apps/themes. -Sthitha On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Renaming widgets to E17 theme might work since that group covers the main e17 interface. Toma On 7/26/08, Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Andrew G. Stack [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi all, The new site looks nice -- I like the fact that it has nice big screen shots and I'm sure it will be less work for morlenxus. :) I'm traveling right now but as soon as I get back I'll get to work on an updated version of steampunk and upload it (I want to theme a few more modules first). One question I have regarding the themes: let's say I was a new user and wanted to download a theme for e17. Where would I look? It seems the themes section is divided up into all the parts of e17 but there is no option for just an e17 theme. Obviously there is no clear definition for what a complete e17 theme might be, for example, mine is missing quite a few parts like entrance, etk ewl widgets, etc., but it seems like an additional tab under themes for e17 themes would be nice. Or maybe a way to rank the themes based on the completeness of their included list? So if I just want to download something to replace the default e17 theme I can browse some of the more complete themes and pick one. I agree: for a new user is such confusing. And another request: IMO we miss an 'homepage' field in apps/modules, for example penguins is in cvs and I don't know where to put the link to the penguins page. Also should be usefull to have the ability to upload more than 1 screenshot. Just my two cents... Thanks Dave Cheers, Andrew (Rooster) --- Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Michael wrote: Get-E is already gone, so I think it's time to stop talking about it. :-) That's too bad. I liked get-e, even the original one - which then also went 'gone', and was subsequently reborn again, but is now gone.. yet again. So, who knows how gone is 'gone' and who'll be around to make sure. :) Improve your career health. Click now to study nutrition! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nFB0oyEE8ZFv93xps3fscrpKCM83GVn2bJXcEXl7K5TTacQ/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Sthithaprajna wrote: Indeed, one of the main reasons for creating exchange was to make a webapp that was a lot more tightly integrated with the efl. Personally, I would like to see a ecore-style C library for exchange, so that people can just plop it into their apps and get a full repository of themes for their specific app. Exchange already records version numbers, so your themes could have automatic updates as well! That would a tremendous leap in helping to extend E to the net. It's just a shame that has been left to merely having a site or two whose main functionality is basically to crank out html docs giving access to this or that. Every app that wants to should be able to more easily have net-based extensions and support (maybe many such), and this doesn't mean just an html- pumping site. Conversely, any web-site that wants to should be able to write a local app that's well fitted to the site. One of the unfortunate side effects of the dominance of the web-browser app is that the net is often used centered around being an html-pump, with browsers (or just html rendering engines) being the only local app handling such. There's no reason, for example, why an image viewing app couldn't display images from a supporting site repo in its own way.. there's no reason the only way to view an image repo ought to be via html or even via some browser plugin (like Flash or whatnot). There's just so much other stuff one can do if one has certain apis in place to transmit data/info, general stuff and specific stuff. And we can certainly do more to bridge the gap between the desktop and the web. But we gotta be careful, we go too far and you'll start seeing browsers in text editors! As far as websites go, as morlenxus said, get-e.org will be going away. I am going to miss the news articles that morlenxus posts regularly, so hopefully, we'll see him posting news on the front page of enlightenment.org e17-stuff.org seems to be operated by somebody else (not the e community) for ad revenue, and also seems to be down as I am writing this email... exchange should become the main site for themes, especially after we get desktop integration. I don't see why get-e should go away.. not if they want to give exchange a good challenge. They could support whatever exchange does, and extend even more - it could go as far as the drive and vision of its founders want it to go.. as could exchange, as could others. Visit New England and experience Old World charm. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nKrjyKFmTLxktkkfff2zlEZBlidqZqfHNyYAWi4pIv9MA8U/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
There's got to be more to a web presence to E than themes... and if you think about it. :) i have nothing against exchange. Absolutely nothing. I even dreamt of such a thing for the Windows packages i want to build. I'm against that 2 sets of people (the maintainers of get-e and those of exchange) put all their effort in the same kind of site (mainly the host of files). We are too few people involved in the project. Better concentrating our effort in something that will be great. And if we keep get-e, I'm sure that, in a not so distant future, one of the 2 websites will die (certainly get-e, because exchange offers more features). Vincent - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Vincent wrote: There's got to be more to a web presence to E than themes... and if you think about it. :) i have nothing against exchange. Absolutely nothing. I even dreamt of such a thing for the Windows packages i want to build. I'm against that 2 sets of people (the maintainers of get-e and those of exchange) put all their effort in the same kind of site (mainly the host of files). We are too few people involved in the project. Better concentrating our effort in something that will be great. And if we keep get-e, I'm sure that, in a not so distant future, one of the 2 websites will die (certainly get-e, because exchange offers more features). Sure, but my point is that there's no need to choose between exchange and get-e, not if get-e, as a site and concept, doesn't want to be about just apps/themes, it could be about whatever it wants.. test out new ideas for e-and-the-net as it sees fit... or not. Whatever its founders (or others) want and can conceive of. Anyway, since I can barely use email as it is, I'll leave these wild web speculations up to them. :) Get educated. Click here for Adult Education programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNbXyz7HuZNXGcqVFZVOztr71p8tGRe8apjUCt5Ob1QR9jp/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I don't see why get-e should go away.. not if they want to give exchange a good challenge. They could support whatever exchange does, and extend even more - it could go as far as the drive and vision of its founders want it to go.. as could exchange, as could others. Exchange and Get-E are run by more or less the same people, with new additions working on the Exchange team. At some point in time, I'll be moving Get-E's traffic over to Exchange (in a couple of weeks). The idea behind Exchange has been discussed before amongst Get-E's staff, and they decided that a new platform, API, and being part of the e.org domain is what they wanted At this point, aside having a rock-solid and useful API, one of the challenges is to keep those themes up to date, and to try and get high quality themes in there (as opposed to copy / modify / paste themes). Those two points imo are what will make, or break, Exchange. That brings me to another point, E17 themes are way too tough for normal artists to develop, but thats a totally separate topic of discussion (= Personally, I can't wait to start hitting that refresh button in E17 and start seeing new theme previews roll in the web portion of the themes / resources dialog (to be). Keep up the great work guys! (= -- Hisham Mardam Bey http://hisham.cc/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Themes are tricky. But its just a matter of documentation really. Rasters new theme is chock full of doc, and Ive started a blog on how to get some of the cooler effects for different Widgets and things. Also, if you check out my new Cerium theme, you can see a demonstration of the color_class idea I posted on the -devel list a while back. Basically lets the User re-colour the theme without having to bust open edje files and tweak images. Tho its not exactly going to change the appearance hugely, it will give people a little more control over their favorite theme. On a further note, Im trying to do different looks and effects across all my themes and license them accordingly so they can take aspects from all sorts of themes and merge them into their own work. Again, its just a matter of documenting the process. I wouldnt be too worried about 'Default copies' since people can simply rate the theme low, then sort highest to lowest on themes. Leave it up to the users to decide if content is 5 star or not. I know if someone starting out in themeing was to release something 1/2 done but still looked cool, theyd be happy to get some feedback on how theyre going and motivate them to do more. And on that note, if you DO see a default copy or a 1/2 done theme, dont knock the themer, but encourage them to try something different, and to keep at it. Heres what Ive started... http://edjy.wordpress.com/ Toma 2008/7/21 Hisham Mardam Bey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I don't see why get-e should go away.. not if they want to give exchange a good challenge. They could support whatever exchange does, and extend even more - it could go as far as the drive and vision of its founders want it to go.. as could exchange, as could others. Exchange and Get-E are run by more or less the same people, with new additions working on the Exchange team. At some point in time, I'll be moving Get-E's traffic over to Exchange (in a couple of weeks). The idea behind Exchange has been discussed before amongst Get-E's staff, and they decided that a new platform, API, and being part of the e.org domain is what they wanted At this point, aside having a rock-solid and useful API, one of the challenges is to keep those themes up to date, and to try and get high quality themes in there (as opposed to copy / modify / paste themes). Those two points imo are what will make, or break, Exchange. That brings me to another point, E17 themes are way too tough for normal artists to develop, but thats a totally separate topic of discussion (= Personally, I can't wait to start hitting that refresh button in E17 and start seeing new theme previews roll in the web portion of the themes / resources dialog (to be). Keep up the great work guys! (= -- Hisham Mardam Bey http://hisham.cc/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Themes are tricky. But its just a matter of documentation really. Rasters new theme is chock full of doc, and Ive started a blog on how to get some of the cooler effects for different Widgets and things. Also, if you check out my new Cerium theme, you can see a demonstration of the color_class idea I posted on the -devel list a while back. Basically lets the User re-colour the theme without having to bust open edje files and tweak images. Tho its not exactly going to change the appearance hugely, it will give people a little more control over their favorite theme. Just to let you know, Cerium with semi transparent colors ROCKS, really! You still lack some nice icons for most of things (battery, cpu, ...) and I'd like another clock, but the theme itself feels smooth and fluid. Thanks, On a further note, Im trying to do different looks and effects across all my themes and license them accordingly so they can take aspects from all sorts of themes and merge them into their own work. Again, its just a matter of documenting the process. that is great. I wouldnt be too worried about 'Default copies' since people can simply rate the theme low, then sort highest to lowest on themes. Leave it up to the users to decide if content is 5 star or not. I know if someone starting out in themeing was to release something 1/2 done but still looked cool, theyd be happy to get some feedback on how theyre going and motivate them to do more. And on that note, if you DO see a default copy or a 1/2 done theme, dont knock the themer, but encourage them to try something different, and to keep at it. Heres what Ive started... http://edjy.wordpress.com/ Congrats man, that's something really nice and required, also thanks to get exchange.e.o done! -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Sthithaprajna wrote: For themes, you get a lot more information, that could be useful depending on what you are looking for.. for example, if you dont like the look of your shelf and want to try something else, you could go here: http://exchange.enlightenment.org/themeGroup/show/2664 and find all the themes that provide a shelf theme. get-e does not provide this level of detail, and for get-e to provide that, it would require a lot of effort on the part of the guy posting the theme. Here its all done automatically. As far as modules and apps go, not everything is available in CVS, there are other places to find them. This is only a place that links to them.. if you hit download, you'd notice it goes TO CVS... Its more like a central list of what's available.. we dont try to host code here. Finally, the most important thing in my opinion is the API itself, so whatever app you write, you can hook into exchange in your app's theme config panel and people wont have to guess where to get themes from/where to upload themes to. -Sthitha On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Christopher Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I am missing the point here, but aren't these themes already available via get-e.org ? Also, the mpdule, taskbar, and efm nav module are already available via cvsso what's the point of having Yet Another Site ? dh Toma wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) This is actually damn nice. It's a great example of having e become more web-connected, and could yet become something bigger and better. I suppose get-e could've done something similar, and perhaps it could or maybe integrate better with this 'exchange', or whatnot... but this is definitely a much more refined idea, and with something like live notifications of apps/libs/themes/ whatnot... changes, or updates, or new stuff, or who-knows-what plus an app(s) to make it easy to do whatever-the-who-knows-what, it'd be very nice. :) Fly in style. Click here for information on private jets. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMct2kcKLJxv6qLpt4Q2mgyibI9L3Hvep6h7tsOFp7CKdhW/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: This is actually damn nice. It's a great example of having e become more web-connected, and could yet become something bigger and better. I suppose get-e could've done something similar, and perhaps it could or maybe integrate better with this 'exchange', or whatnot... but this is definitely a much more refined idea, and with something like live notifications of apps/libs/themes/ whatnot... changes, or updates, or new stuff, or who-knows-what plus an app(s) to make it easy to do whatever-the-who-knows-what, it'd be very nice. :) in that case, we have 2 sites that gives both the same informations (a list of themes, modules). I even know another site that lists the themes, modules, applications : http://www.e17-stuff.org/ That is a lot, imho. Maybe you should discuss what to do in order to have less web sites that do almost the same thing. Vincent - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
On the topic of e17-stuff, it is an unmoderated, poorly maintained website. I think exchange is a much better place than e17-stuff for submitting and browsing in general. Personally, ive taken all my content of e17-stuff for various reasons. On the topic of get-e, i like it. Its great, full of cool things and morlenxus does a great job. But theres alot of unmaintained content there and lack of feedback. That said, a total overhaul of get-e would be needed anyway to keep it in line with the other things on *.enlightenment. The submission process is alot like get-e too, where the content is screened by a mod first. If anything, i would call it an evolution of get-e. Toma On 7/20/08, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: This is actually damn nice. It's a great example of having e become more web-connected, and could yet become something bigger and better. I suppose get-e could've done something similar, and perhaps it could or maybe integrate better with this 'exchange', or whatnot... but this is definitely a much more refined idea, and with something like live notifications of apps/libs/themes/ whatnot... changes, or updates, or new stuff, or who-knows-what plus an app(s) to make it easy to do whatever-the-who-knows-what, it'd be very nice. :) in that case, we have 2 sites that gives both the same informations (a list of themes, modules). I even know another site that lists the themes, modules, applications : http://www.e17-stuff.org/ That is a lot, imho. Maybe you should discuss what to do in order to have less web sites that do almost the same thing. Vincent - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Vincent wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: This is actually damn nice. It's a great example of having e become more web-connected, and could yet become something bigger and better. I suppose get-e could've done something similar, and perhaps it could or maybe integrate better with this 'exchange', or whatnot... but this is definitely a much more refined idea, and with something like live notifications of apps/libs/themes/ whatnot... changes, or updates, or new stuff, or who-knows-what plus an app(s) to make it easy to do whatever-the-who-knows-what, it'd be very nice. :) in that case, we have 2 sites that gives both the same informations (a list of themes, modules). I even know another site that lists the themes, modules, applications : http://www.e17-stuff.org/ That is a lot, imho. Maybe you should discuss what to do in order to have less web sites that do almost the same thing. I agree that discussion on this important aspect of e-and-the-web would be excellent, and it's something I tried to mention several times. But what's better about this particular exchange thing is the potential for it to evolve into something far more than the current set of 'themes' sites like get-e or e17-stuff. Those haven't done a thing as far inovation or advancing the bleeding edge of e and the web, they're just mainly repositories. One needs to be far more creative and bring the web to e in a real-time way that's easy to deal with for users, developers, designers,... It's not about having a mere 'information' repo, it's got to be about connecting whatever e is, to the net in a better way... and that means having some kind of *api* to enable devs/themers/users to make their apps/libs/themes/who-knows-what be net-aware, net-enabled, net-connected, net-hell-if-I-know. Get-e could've done it, but it didn't.. it never really tried. Exchange did, at least a good start.. Work together and take it from there. :) Don't let your life go up in flames. Click here for the latest fire saftey products. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oFSuVJPUVBiEVu4VRTx4cg56ClbFduNcKzKYCWM7jg088r1/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Hello everyone, to make this clear, GET-E.org will be closed. Exchange is a good improvement and i like the idea to have everything under the e.org domain. Also i see no sense in having two sites, providing the same. The site will be up for a while until all the themes are moved to the new domain. Thanks for supporting GET-E.org over the years, i guess we did a good job. :) Greets, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:24:40PM +0800, Toma wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: I agree that discussion on this important aspect of e-and-the-web would be excellent, and it's something I tried to mention several times. But what's better about this particular exchange thing is the potential for it to evolve into something far more than the current set of 'themes' sites like get-e or e17-stuff. Those haven't done a thing as far inovation or advancing the bleeding edge of e and the web, they're just mainly repositories. One needs to be far more creative and bring the web to e in a real-time way that's easy to deal with for users, developers, designers,... It's not about having a mere 'information' repo, it's got to be about connecting whatever e is, to the net in a better way... and that means having some kind of *api* to enable devs/themers/users to make their apps/libs/themes/who-knows-what be net-aware, net-enabled, net-connected, net-hell-if-I-know. Get-e could've done it, but it didn't.. it never really tried. Exchange did, at least a good start.. Work together and take it from there. :) My comment is not about website 1 is better than website 2 because [put what you want here]. I'm not skilled enough to decide which one is better. It is that we have 3 websites that have more or less the same content. We must decide, as soon as possible which one should exist and which ones should die. Vincent - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:01:11AM -0400, Jose Gonzalez wrote: Vincent wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: This is actually damn nice. It's a great example of having e become more web-connected, and could yet become something bigger and better. I suppose get-e could've done something similar, and perhaps it could or maybe integrate better with this 'exchange', or whatnot... but this is definitely a much more refined idea, and with something like live notifications of apps/libs/themes/ whatnot... changes, or updates, or new stuff, or who-knows-what plus an app(s) to make it easy to do whatever-the-who-knows-what, it'd be very nice. :) in that case, we have 2 sites that gives both the same informations (a list of themes, modules). I even know another site that lists the themes, modules, applications : http://www.e17-stuff.org/ That is a lot, imho. Maybe you should discuss what to do in order to have less web sites that do almost the same thing. I agree that discussion on this important aspect of e-and-the-web would be excellent, and it's something I tried to mention several times. But what's better about this particular exchange thing is the potential for it to evolve into something far more than the current set of 'themes' sites like get-e or e17-stuff. Those haven't done a thing as far inovation or advancing the bleeding edge of e and the web, they're just mainly repositories. One needs to be far more creative and bring the web to e in a real-time way that's easy to deal with for users, developers, designers,... It's not about having a mere 'information' repo, it's got to be about connecting whatever e is, to the net in a better way... and that means having some kind of *api* to enable devs/themers/users to make their apps/libs/themes/who-knows-what be net-aware, net-enabled, net-connected, net-hell-if-I-know. Get-e could've done it, but it didn't.. it never really tried. Exchange did, at least a good start.. Work together and take it from there. :) GET-E.org has had applications and module code some time ago, i removed that section because the submitters didn't update the code and so it got outdated soon. Also GET-E.org was totally different to exchange, it was keeping an eye at original themes, so it was completly maintained. Exchange allows the users to submit whatever they want, that will lead into copyright issues and e17-stuff alike ugly themes. So there was a reason why we never did the exchange/e17-stuff way. Also there was an api for downloading files automatically, you might want to check the theme or background dialog... I don't think GET-E.org wasn't inovative, but now we had an evolution and there we have a new better site: exchange Greets Don't let your life go up in flames. Click here for the latest fire saftey products. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oFSuVJPUVBiEVu4VRTx4cg56ClbFduNcKzKYCWM7jg088r1/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
morlenxus wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:01:11AM -0400, Jose Gonzalez wrote: Vincent wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: This is actually damn nice. It's a great example of having e become more web-connected, and could yet become something bigger and better. I suppose get-e could've done something similar, and perhaps it could or maybe integrate better with this 'exchange', or whatnot... but this is definitely a much more refined idea, and with something like live notifications of apps/libs/themes/ whatnot... changes, or updates, or new stuff, or who-knows-what plus an app(s) to make it easy to do whatever-the-who-knows-what, it'd be very nice. :) in that case, we have 2 sites that gives both the same informations (a list of themes, modules). I even know another site that lists the themes, modules, applications : http://www.e17-stuff.org/ That is a lot, imho. Maybe you should discuss what to do in order to have less web sites that do almost the same thing. I agree that discussion on this important aspect of e-and-the-web would be excellent, and it's something I tried to mention several times. But what's better about this particular exchange thing is the potential for it to evolve into something far more than the current set of 'themes' sites like get-e or e17-stuff. Those haven't done a thing as far inovation or advancing the bleeding edge of e and the web, they're just mainly repositories. One needs to be far more creative and bring the web to e in a real-time way that's easy to deal with for users, developers, designers,... It's not about having a mere 'information' repo, it's got to be about connecting whatever e is, to the net in a better way... and that means having some kind of *api* to enable devs/themers/users to make their apps/libs/themes/who-knows-what be net-aware, net-enabled, net-connected, net-hell-if-I-know. Get-e could've done it, but it didn't.. it never really tried. Exchange did, at least a good start.. Work together and take it from there. :) GET-E.org has had applications and module code some time ago, i removed that section because the submitters didn't update the code and so it got outdated soon. Also GET-E.org was totally different to exchange, it was keeping an eye at original themes, so it was completly maintained. Exchange allows the users to submit whatever they want, that will lead into copyright issues and e17-stuff alike ugly themes. So there was a reason why we never did the exchange/e17-stuff way. Also there was an api for downloading files automatically, you might want to check the theme or background dialog... I don't think GET-E.org wasn't inovative, but now we had an evolution and there we have a new better site: exchange Greets I don't think it's an issue of better sites in the sense of which has better maintainability, or which has better access restrictions, or better looks, or better themes, or lists more apps that's just not my point here. There are many, many ways one could think of to improve the state of things as far as e and the web goes, form the hard - like an e-webkit or e-mozilla, or a browser plugin and evolution of edje and the toolkits that would allow for those to be like FlexFlash (ie. e based web-content and rich internet apps), to the simple like an e17-module that can download wallpapers. But there are also a lot of things in-between these, and up and down, and all sorts of combinations (some possibly requiring the harder stuff). Just to give you a simple one, imagine you have your favorite e image viewer desktop app, and it's really cool-looking, and can search for images in your drive, and whatnot.. But, if it were easy to make this app web-enabled, you could have it do much, much more. You could have it notify you of updates to the app itself, of new themes from selected sites, of new plugins (assuming it has such things), and it could keep a list of fav sites related to wallpapers, images, etc. and allow you to view such images on those sites, download if possible, share with selected people, .. There's a ton of stuff that app could do if it were easy for it to be web-enabled, both content wise with general and/or selected sites or contacts, and for the app itself (updates, plugins, themes, docs, tutorials, ...). Most any app, with good supporting sites, could become much, much richer. But there need to be mechanisms to make it easy for developers to add such functionality and for sites to cooperate with. If exchange allows for even a *start* on making this kind of thing possible, then that would be better - it really doesn't matter what the site. Why not be a nutritionist? Get your degree fast. Click here!
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Vincent wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: I agree that discussion on this important aspect of e-and-the-web would be excellent, and it's something I tried to mention several times. But what's better about this particular exchange thing is the potential for it to evolve into something far more than the current set of 'themes' sites like get-e or e17-stuff. Those haven't done a thing as far inovation or advancing the bleeding edge of e and the web, they're just mainly repositories. One needs to be far more creative and bring the web to e in a real-time way that's easy to deal with for users, developers, designers,... It's not about having a mere 'information' repo, it's got to be about connecting whatever e is, to the net in a better way... and that means having some kind of *api* to enable devs/themers/users to make their apps/libs/themes/who-knows-what be net-aware, net-enabled, net-connected, net-hell-if-I-know. Get-e could've done it, but it didn't.. it never really tried. Exchange did, at least a good start.. Work together and take it from there. :) My comment is not about website 1 is better than website 2 because [put what you want here]. I'm not skilled enough to decide which one is better. It is that we have 3 websites that have more or less the same content. We must decide, as soon as possible which one should exist and which ones should die. Vincent, it's not about merely content that I'm discussing here - it's about 'services', 'apis', whatver you want to call them, that would make it easy for devs to make their apps be able to be connected, notified, access content, etc. from any site that might support such apis, services, whatnot. Get educated. Click here for Adult Education programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNbXhNFktNJjMQm6Pw9Kcu1oKmDjiRFVjePuycSMQJqbMqr/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Indeed, one of the main reasons for creating exchange was to make a webapp that was a lot more tightly integrated with the efl. Personally, I would like to see a ecore-style C library for exchange, so that people can just plop it into their apps and get a full repository of themes for their specific app. Exchange already records version numbers, so your themes could have automatic updates as well! And we can certainly do more to bridge the gap between the desktop and the web. But we gotta be careful, we go too far and you'll start seeing browsers in text editors! As far as websites go, as morlenxus said, get-e.org will be going away. I am going to miss the news articles that morlenxus posts regularly, so hopefully, we'll see him posting news on the front page of enlightenment.org e17-stuff.org seems to be operated by somebody else (not the e community) for ad revenue, and also seems to be down as I am writing this email... exchange should become the main site for themes, especially after we get desktop integration. -Sthitha On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: I agree that discussion on this important aspect of e-and-the-web would be excellent, and it's something I tried to mention several times. But what's better about this particular exchange thing is the potential for it to evolve into something far more than the current set of 'themes' sites like get-e or e17-stuff. Those haven't done a thing as far inovation or advancing the bleeding edge of e and the web, they're just mainly repositories. One needs to be far more creative and bring the web to e in a real-time way that's easy to deal with for users, developers, designers,... It's not about having a mere 'information' repo, it's got to be about connecting whatever e is, to the net in a better way... and that means having some kind of *api* to enable devs/themers/users to make their apps/libs/themes/who-knows-what be net-aware, net-enabled, net-connected, net-hell-if-I-know. Get-e could've done it, but it didn't.. it never really tried. Exchange did, at least a good start.. Work together and take it from there. :) My comment is not about website 1 is better than website 2 because [put what you want here]. I'm not skilled enough to decide which one is better. It is that we have 3 websites that have more or less the same content. We must decide, as soon as possible which one should exist and which ones should die. Vincent, it's not about merely content that I'm discussing here - it's about 'services', 'apis', whatver you want to call them, that would make it easy for devs to make their apps be able to be connected, notified, access content, etc. from any site that might support such apis, services, whatnot. Get educated. Click here for Adult Education programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNbXhNFktNJjMQm6Pw9Kcu1oKmDjiRFVjePuycSMQJqbMqr/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
I don't see any problem here, too. As morlenxus said: exchange is intended to replace get-e. e17-stuff.org is third party, doesn't have any quality standards and is nothing more than a list with random themes, apps, and dozens of things that have nothing to do with E at all - nothing to care about. So there is (will be) one site, where's the problem? I still hope that exchange will get some kind of moderation, but altogether I like the idea and hope for a good integration into E itself. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, one of the main reasons for creating exchange was to make a webapp that was a lot more tightly integrated with the efl. Personally, I would like to see a ecore-style C library for exchange, so that people can just plop it into their apps and get a full repository of themes for their specific app. Exchange already records version numbers, so your themes could have automatic updates as well! And we can certainly do more to bridge the gap between the desktop and the web. But we gotta be careful, we go too far and you'll start seeing browsers in text editors! As far as websites go, as morlenxus said, get-e.org will be going away. I am going to miss the news articles that morlenxus posts regularly, so hopefully, we'll see him posting news on the front page of enlightenment.org e17-stuff.org seems to be operated by somebody else (not the e community) for ad revenue, and also seems to be down as I am writing this email... exchange should become the main site for themes, especially after we get desktop integration. -Sthitha On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: I agree that discussion on this important aspect of e-and-the-web would be excellent, and it's something I tried to mention several times. But what's better about this particular exchange thing is the potential for it to evolve into something far more than the current set of 'themes' sites like get-e or e17-stuff. Those haven't done a thing as far inovation or advancing the bleeding edge of e and the web, they're just mainly repositories. One needs to be far more creative and bring the web to e in a real-time way that's easy to deal with for users, developers, designers,... It's not about having a mere 'information' repo, it's got to be about connecting whatever e is, to the net in a better way... and that means having some kind of *api* to enable devs/themers/users to make their apps/libs/themes/who-knows-what be net-aware, net-enabled, net-connected, net-hell-if-I-know. Get-e could've done it, but it didn't.. it never really tried. Exchange did, at least a good start.. Work together and take it from there. :) My comment is not about website 1 is better than website 2 because [put what you want here]. I'm not skilled enough to decide which one is better. It is that we have 3 websites that have more or less the same content. We must decide, as soon as possible which one should exist and which ones should die. Vincent, it's not about merely content that I'm discussing here - it's about 'services', 'apis', whatver you want to call them, that would make it easy for devs to make their apps be able to be connected, notified, access content, etc. from any site that might support such apis, services, whatnot. Get educated. Click here for Adult Education programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNbXhNFktNJjMQm6Pw9Kcu1oKmDjiRFVjePuycSMQJqbMqr/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin
[E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Lets try that again! http://exchange.enlightenment.org :) 2008/7/19 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
Maybe I am missing the point here, but aren't these themes already available via get-e.org ? Also, the mpdule, taskbar, and efm nav module are already available via cvsso what's the point of having Yet Another Site ? dh Toma wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.
For themes, you get a lot more information, that could be useful depending on what you are looking for.. for example, if you dont like the look of your shelf and want to try something else, you could go here: http://exchange.enlightenment.org/themeGroup/show/2664 and find all the themes that provide a shelf theme. get-e does not provide this level of detail, and for get-e to provide that, it would require a lot of effort on the part of the guy posting the theme. Here its all done automatically. As far as modules and apps go, not everything is available in CVS, there are other places to find them. This is only a place that links to them.. if you hit download, you'd notice it goes TO CVS... Its more like a central list of what's available.. we dont try to host code here. Finally, the most important thing in my opinion is the API itself, so whatever app you write, you can hook into exchange in your app's theme config panel and people wont have to guess where to get themes from/where to upload themes to. -Sthitha On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Christopher Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I am missing the point here, but aren't these themes already available via get-e.org ? Also, the mpdule, taskbar, and efm nav module are already available via cvsso what's the point of having Yet Another Site ? dh Toma wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen! We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based applications and modules for these applications. It was built specifically for E, and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of edje to automatically detect themes and allow users to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and will hopefully become a central location for people to look for EFL based apps. We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple minutes looking around, create an account and upload some content as the only work on there so far is a few modules and all of my work. Remember, this is a great way to get some feedback on your content and for users to show some appreciation for all your hard effort! For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes from the Exchange, we have a full API documented here: http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI (please direct any questions about the API to iamsthitha) mcalamelli is already working on an application that will let you download and install themes from exchange without having to visit the website and go through the hassle of installing them. http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is something to keep an eye on!) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
