Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?

2021-07-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-20 at 08:22 -0400, David Frier wrote:
> When the rule fires, the forward goes into the Outbox of OTC and...
> sits there.  Until I

Hi,
the forward through mail filters is separate from the usual message
sending. Use:

   $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail flush-outbox true

to make the messages being sent immediately after they are forwarded
through the message filters.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] New to Evolution and with 3 difficulties already

2021-07-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-20 at 15:59 +0100, jorge santos via evolution-list
wrote:
> 1) [Gmail] folder structure where I would like to have my Gmail
> emails folders with a "flat" structure like explained
> here: 
> https://www.gyrocode.com/articles/how-to-hide-gmail-folder-in-mozilla-thunderbird-using-imap/

Hi,
I do not think you want to do that, it hides any folders not being
under [Gmail] (I have such myself). Anyway, it can be done by editing
underlying files (because it's an advanced option, for advanced users).
Search files under ~/.config/evolution/sources, you are interested in
those having [Imapx Backend] section. There is a DisplayName in the
file, which can help you to identify the right file, in case you've
configured more IMAP accounts. Edit the file and change these values
under the [Imapx Backend]:

   Namespace=the_path_to_use
   UseNamespace=true

That would be probably:

   Namespace=[Gmail]

but I'm not sure. It's not the same as what the Thunderbird does.

> 2) I would like to order my Gmail mail folders as I wish like
> explained
> here: 
> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/manually-sort-folders/?src=cb-dl-mostpopular

Depending on your Evolution version, Folder->Edit Sort Order... menu
option.

> 3) On the Contacts side, Evolution shows, by default, "LASTNAME,
> FIRSTNAME". I want to make it "FIRSTNAME LASTNAME".

If you mean the mini card view, then it uses the File As attribute.

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Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Suddenly Japanese language no longer working

2021-07-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 10:48 +0200, Axel Lieber wrote:
> Since that update, Japanese appears as gibberish.

Hi,
I see you use the Flatpak version provided by Flathub.org. I'd check
whether it broke due to the update. You can try to downgrade to the
previous version of the Evolution, though I do not see any relevant
change, thus it can be the org.gnome.Platform or similar low level
library update causing it. The command to downgrade to the 3.40.2
version of the Evolution is:

   $ flatpak update --commit 
4ee8baaff571a565c910210db972692df15e659c9750387bdc3d0c366d255345 
org.gnome.Evolution

You can get list of possible commits for the Platform libraries with
the following commands (there are two related runtimes):

   $ flatpak remote-info flathub org.gnome.Platform//40 --log | more
   $ flatpak remote-info flathub org.freedesktop.Platform//20.08 --log | more

Then use a similar `flatpak update` command as above to downgrade to
certain commit. Note you might restart the Evolution processes to make
sure the new libraries are used. You can check whether there are any
such running with this command:

   $ ps ax | grep evolution | grep app

(you are interested only in Evolution process from /app/ path). If
there are any running, execute this:

   $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution

I'd verify whether it truly killed the process with the `ps ax`
command, just in case. If not, you might use some harder kills.

This way, you can figure out whether it broke due to the library update
or an Evolution update, and which update did it, if any from the
Flatpak world.

By the way, is only message preview/composition broken, or also the
message list, for cases when the Japanese characters are written in the
Subject?

As it's about the fonts, maybe the fontconfig updated as well, and/or
the needed fonts had been replaced/removed, though I consider the font
disappear unlikely.

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Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 13:28 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> Help 🡒 Contents 🡒 Getting Started 🡒 Shortcut keys

Hi,
eventually Help->Keyboard Shortcuts.
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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 12:03 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > What about the Enter key? That feels like a good candidate. When
> > pressed while being in the folder tree, 'enter' the folder by moving
> > focus to the message list.
> > 
> 
> That sounds reasonable.

Hi,
I added it for 3.41.2+ with [1]. It would be better with a bug report
reference, but let it be in this case.

By the way, a single F6 key press moves the focus to the message list
too here.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/commit/4a9c8ad1e7

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Re: [Evolution] Missing attachments.

2021-07-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 19:34 -0600, larry wrote:
> "This section of the message has been deleted. It originally
> contained the following data:

Hi,
it looks like you ran an action to remove attachments, but, supposing
this is the exact text you see there, not in Evolution, because
Evolution doesn't add this information to the message. It adds only
"File has been removed.", eventually "File “$filename” has been
removed.". From which I suppose you removed the attachments from
elsewhere, or the message had been delivered modified, or the server
removed them, if it considered the attachments problematic.
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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 12:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> So there's no attempt to synchronise the local changes with the
> server when the connection is re-established?

Hi,
I'd need to check that out, I'm sorry. There are surely more occasions
when the local changes are saved to the server, not only when moving
away from the folder.
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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 12:00 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Does this have any data loss implications if
> the system (or Evo) should crash before the save happens?

Hi,
folder changes are saved both locally and to the server (when being
online) at the same time. Thus any changes being done before they are
saved can be lost on the application/system crash. That was one of the
reasons why the auto-saving was added, to avoid/limit lost of the
changes.
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Re: [Evolution] Where the remote content "allow " lists are saved?

2021-07-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 22:06 -0400, Paulo Cesar Costa wrote:
> This would be also handy for new installations, so one would be able
> to migrate that list.

Hi,
the File->Back up/Restore Evolution Data is for these things.

> I was not able to figure out where these lists are saved.

It's stored here:

   ~/.config/evolution/mail/send-overrides.ini


Only make sure you copy/overwrite it when Evolution is not running.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Multi Line Regex Questions

2021-07-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 15:11 +0200, Matt Kettlewell via evolution-list
wrote:
> I basically have some HTML in a message that looks something like
> this:
> 
>    BEGIN:=20

Hi,
just a note, what you see in the message source is encoded in quoted-
printable, your filter will not receive "=20", but " " (a space)
instead.

> I've tried various iterations of regex, but I think I'm bumping up
> against Evolution using ERE and not PCRE

I cannot speak much about this, I'm sorry. The code seems to use the
extended regular expression. I do not see the `regcomp` function having
any flag for the PCRE, it knows only basic and extended regular
expressions. The GLib's Regex implementation seems to be built on top
of the PCRE, though it's not used in this part of the libcamel, which
is included in the evolution-data-server project.

> I do see that there are other options for filtering, such as the free
> form expression ( as documented in this bugzilla
> comment: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550796#c10 ),
> however, it's unclear to me if that's going to help me
> here or not... 

The Free Form Expression is just an easier way of writing conditions,
instead of using the GUI for it. It uses the same code in the
background.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> That's not what I see. If I select a different folder and do nothing
> else, one message is highlighted but not selected. The arrow keys
> move up and down the folder list instead of the message list. 

Hi,
I rally meant when I run Evolution, not when moving between folders,
aka right after start in the Mail view.

I can imagine people moving between folders "approximately", like I
know my folder starts with 'f', then I go there and then move up/down
to the "fine" folder between other 'f' folders. Changing focus to the
message list would disallow it.

The left/right keys are tricky, even they make sense, because they are
also used to expand/collapse the folder, when a Shift key is held down.

What about the Enter key? That feels like a good candidate. When
pressed while being in the folder tree, 'enter' the folder by moving
focus to the message list.

Not that it's any different from Ctrl+G, but I see it doesn't change
the focus to the message list either, even it should/could.
Bye,
Milan

P.S.: once things are clear, a bug report would be welcome

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I do have "Show Deleted Messages", yet if I delete a message it
> disappears from the list a second or two later (not instantly).

Hi,
there had been a feature request to support Undo in the Mail view, but
it was never implemented. One reason is the undo is not a real undo,
you cannot restore to the exact same state when the messages are moved
around in the IMAP folders (the UID changes, together with the folder
state).

With respect of the delay for the message move, that can be changed for
the account. The delay means how long to wait to save all the changes
in the folder to the server. Before this change, the local changes had
been saved only when moving away from the folder or when using
send/receive or some such moments, which is not practical when the user
stays in a single folder most of the time.

You can search:

   ~/.config/evolution/sources/

for a .source file referencing your IMAP account. Such file contains
this text: "[Imapx Backend]" (quotes for clarity only). There's a key:
   StoreChangesInterval=3
which contains a value in seconds. There are special values for it,
the 0 means to save changes immediately, while a negative value turns
the auto-save off.

This worked for remote accounts (IMAP/EWS/...) for a long time. It had
been extended for any account type recently, within:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/273

I do not know whether it's of any use for you.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 11:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> So presumably Gmail interprets the "Set Deleted Flag" IMAP operation
> as being "Label as Trash" and so only shows the message in the Trash
> folder.

Hi,
it's not Gmail causing the move, it's the real trash setting in
Evolution, which instructs the IMAPx code to move the marked-for-
deletion messages into the trash folder. You can turn off the real
trash, but then Gmail steps in and causes trouble when
deleting/expunging in the folders (it's a long time since I tried it
the last time; in those times, to have working properly the message
delete/expunge, one needed to move to the trash folder first, otherwise
the message still left in the All Messages folder, if I recall
correctly).
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Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 11:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I agree that highlighting without selecting is confusing. I often hit
> an arrow key to move to the next message and instead find myself
> moving to the next folder. I find this very counter-intuitive.

Hi,
I tried it here, with the current development version, which is pretty
much the same as yours 3.40.2 in this regard, and when I run Evolution
in the Mail view, the message list is focused, thus using up/down arrow
moves to the next/previous message.

Having selected the message itself, aka the message preview panel, the
arrows would move with the message content, scroll up/down. I believe
the message list focus is much better option here.

It can be the focus changed after some action. That depends on the
steps you do. Having always selected the message list isn't correct for
sure. Actions like the magic spacebar and search do focus the message
list.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:57 -0400, George Reeke wrote:
> Unless there is a good reason, I'll plan on submitting a feature
> request to allow Delete to work anyplace where Ctrl-D works.

Hi,
I would not do that. In fact, there were ideas to disable the Delete
key completely, because it's not used anywhere else. Eventually to
enable it in all views, though I'd not do that too. It's a too common
key, which can be used for other purposes (like when entering text to
the Search entry, but also many others) and it is a pain to filter such
keys out when needed. The code in the mail view is the prove.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution-mapi installation problem

2021-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 15:43 +0300, Михаил Кулаков wrote:
> Can you provide any tips to build openchange on present distributions
> like ubuntu 20.04, etc?

Hi,
I do not use Ubuntu, thus I cannot help with it there, I'm sorry. Some
other distributions (for example Fedora) still build OpenChange. You
can get the build script from there:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/openchange/tree/rawhide
It's the .spec file specifically:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/openchange/blob/rawhide/f/openchange.spec
and in it the %prep, %build and %install sections.
I do not know whether it'll be of any use for you, it contains a lot of
downstream patches to make it work on the recent versions of Fedora.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Yes, I see. It's still very visually ambiguous as they both appear to
> be selected.

Hi,
I agree, though it's a question of the theme. I do not like unfocused
GtkTreeView draws as focused, in contrast to the message list, which,
at least here, changes the selection color from blue to gray when I
move away from it.

> Is there a programmatic way of changing the focus to the
> message instead of the folder?

Yes, there is. Would it be the message or the message list? Both have
its pros and cons.

> And add (say) right-arrow as a shortcut to manually select the
> highlighted message.

The Tab or F6 are the standard keys to move between widgets in the gtk+
applications.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I don't really see why it doesn't work like this.

Hi,
if I understand this properly, then the problem is where the focus is
placed when the window opens. It happens to be in the folder listing,
not in the message listing (it used to be the New toolbar button in the
very distant past).

With respect of the Delete itself, there are two shortcuts to do it.
One is the Delete key press, which works only when the proper widgets
are focused, the second is the Ctrl+D shortcut, which works in all
views.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Junk removal is too efficient

2021-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2021-07-04 at 17:52 +0800, JPM wrote:
> Yes they are POP accounts

Hi,
the POP accounts are fully managed locally, which means something
decided the message is junk. Being it an IMAP account, I faced similar
problem with a GMX server, which didn't want to unset the Junk flag on
the message for some reason, which resulted in constant move between
the real Junk folder and the Inbox (after marking the message as not-
junk). This is addressed with a change on the evolution-data-server
side for the upcoming 3.40.3 release. I doubt it'll touch the POP
account (the messages under On This Computer).

You can try to run evolution from a terminal with some debugging on, to
see what marks the message as junk. The command is:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=junk,filters evolution

Check the output of it, for cases when you mark the message as not junk
and when it returns back to the On This Computer/Junk folder.

The spam detection software should be trained too, to know which the
bad messages are and which not. I agree it's weird to see every message
being classified as junk.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Unable to connect to connect anywhere

2021-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 20:38 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> Thoughts?  Suggestions ?

Hi,
nothing else than what had been said at this subthread:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2021-June/msg00105.html
specifically at:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2021-June/msg00109.html
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] When sending an event the attachment of it wouldn't be send

2021-07-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 21:49 +0800, 杜海波 via evolution-list wrote:
> Version: 3.30.5-1.1
> OS: Debian 10 (buster)

Hi,
I'm sorry to say that, but your version is ancient. The 3.30.5 had been
released on 2019-02-04, means almost two and a half years ago. You
should get a newer version - the current stable version is 3.40.2.

I'm pretty sure the issues with event the attachment had been fixed
meanwhile, but I'm not going to try to search for the exact bug
reports.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Grouping in contacts is not working

2021-07-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 20:10 +0800, JPM wrote:
> If it is a bug then it has not been fixed yet

Hi,
it misbehaves, thus yes, it's a bug. I hoped you'd file one, if not
found already filed. That way you can get updates on it as well.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] calendar :: copy/move/delete multiple selected items

2021-07-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 11:47 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote:
> So I can only e.g. move one entry to an other folder.
> 
> Which keystokes do I have to press to do the task?

Hi,
the Calendar view doesn't support multiselect. The List View can do it
in some extent, but even for it some actions work only with the first
item selected. I just tried it and the Move to Calendar context menu
option ignores the multiselect.

There had been a bug filled to support multiselect properly in the
Calendar view, filled in the old bugzilla. I do not recall whether it
had been re-filled into the GNOME's GitLab instance.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] After an update this evening Evolution crash at opening...

2021-06-29 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-28 at 22:03 +0200, p...@club-internet.fr wrote:
> ppes@FIXE-MAISON:~> evolution  
> evolution: symbol lookup error: /lib64/libebook-contacts-1.2.so.3:
> undefined symbol:
> _ZN4i18n12phonenumbers11PhoneNumberC1EPN6google8protobuf5ArenaEb
> ppes@FIXE-MAISON:~> 

Hi,
the above means that you updated either libphonenumber or evolution-
data-server, but not both, thus they mismatch and the evolution-data-
server's libebook-contacts fails to load due to a missing symbol
provided by libphonenumber. You need to rebuild evolution-data-server
against the libphonenumber version you have installed. If you use
precompiled version provided by the distribution maintainers, then let
them know the provided version is broken (unless the other updated
package is waiting in the update queue or something like that).

A quick workaround is to downgrade the one which had been updated.

This does not affect your data, it's safe.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Not Receiving Mail

2021-06-28 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-28 at 10:12 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> No indication that anything was still running.   Is there a flatpak
> version of  the evolution --force-shutdown ?

Hi,
I second what Andre said, better to not hijack threads.

For the question itself (I know, it's related to what I wrote in this
thread) you can try:

   $ flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution --force-shutdown

eventually Flatpak's own:

   $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution

To verify it worked use:

   $ ps ax | grep evolution

where should be nothing referencing "/app/" (quotes for clarity only)
path.

For your offline state, try to change the online detection method in 
Edit->Preferences->Network Preferences, but from what you wrote I'm
afraid there broke something lower in the stack, not only the detection
itself. Did also the runtime update? (I guess `flatpak history` can
help here, but I've this slightly broken here, thus I cannot verify).
I'd try to downgrade it (and rebuild Evolution), with:

   $ flatpak remote-info flathub org.gnome.Sdk//3.38 --log | more

which lists available commits for the SDK (you might need also the one
for the org.gnome.Platform of the same version), then you can use the
commit ID to update to that precise version with:

   $ flatpak update --commit ID org.gnome.Sdk//3.38

Hope it helps.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Grouping in contacts is not working

2021-06-28 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 18:36 +0800, JPM wrote:
> The grey categories separators are larger and jump around, the contacts
> also jump around (click on one and an other opens instaid!) 

Hi,
I thought it's already fixed, but it looks like it had been missed (or
broke by some other changes). I do not recall whether it's already
reported at:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues
Such things should be better filled there.
Thanks and bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Not Receiving Mail

2021-06-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 13:57 -0600, Val Kartchner via evolution-list
wrote:
> Tuesday it stopped working.  It wasn't working through Saturday when
> I shut down my system.  Sunday morning it started working again.  So
> no assistance is needed any more.

Hi,
I guess there happened something with the libsecret/gnome-keyring-
daemon. In case it'll happen again, try to stop all evolution
processes, thus their next start will reconnect to the other services
it needs. You can restart the processes with:

   $ evolution --force-shutdown

Running that with Flatpak is more tricky, but you have a native version
installed, thus you are fine.
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Re: [Evolution] Cut & paste problems

2021-06-23 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 10:14 +0200, Andrea Vai wrote:
> In case it is, would it show the "broken pipe" error if I just ran
> evo from command line? (Just trying to identify it).

Hi,
I'm sorry, I do not know. I'm not familiar with the gtk+ nor Wayland
internals.
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Re: [Evolution] Cut & paste problems

2021-06-23 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 09:47 +0200, Andrea Vai wrote:
> BTW, could it be https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/820 ?

Hi,
maybe it is, it looks quite similar, though I cannot tell for sure.
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Re: [Evolution] Cut & paste problems

2021-06-22 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-06-22 at 12:49 +0200, Andrea Vai wrote:
> Can anybody please help me? Is it a known bug?

Hi,
it's not known, at least not to me. I'd suspect webkit2gtk3 update
caused it. I would try to downgrade to an older version (`sudo dnf
downgrade webkit2gtk3`). Eventually switch from Xorg to Wayland or vice
versa, if your desktop environment supports it.

I have installed webkit2gtk3-2.32.1-1.fc33.x86_64 (which is the latest
version there) and the middle-click copy&paste to a gedit window from
the mail preview panel worked fine here.
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-calendar-factory (3.36.5) crash - backtrace included

2021-06-22 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-06-22 at 09:56 +0200, Torsten Krah via evolution-list
wrote:
> #0  __GI_raise (sig=sig@entry=...) at
> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:50
> #1  0x7f88ea4a7859 in __GI_abort () at abort.c:79
> #2  0x7f88ea5123ee in __libc_message (action=action@entry=...,
> fmt=fmt@entry=...) at ../sysdeps/posix/libc_fatal.c:155
> #3  0x7f88ea51a47c in malloc_printerr (str=str@entry=...) at
> malloc.c:5347
> #4  0x7f88ea51bcac in _int_free (av=..., p=..., have_lock=...) at
> malloc.c:4173
> #5  0x7f88ea397425 in soup_cookie_free (cookie=...) at
> ../libsoup/soup-cookie.c:871

Hi,
that is, most likely, this one:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1818995

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Re: [Evolution] Backup and duplication Evolution Email

2021-06-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 21:22 +0100, David Greig via evolution-list
wrote:
> The reason I doubted File->"Back up Evolution Data"
> is that the evolution-backup-20210621.tar.gz is 10.2MB

Hi,
the backup doesn't save remote server local cache, thus if you've for
example an IMAP account, then only its definition is saved in the
backup and the new machine will download the content from the server
from scratch. It's sometimes for good, even it costs the bandwidth and
time.
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Re: [Evolution] Inline/quoted forwarding problems with HTML messages

2021-06-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 10:14 -0400, Matt Connell wrote:
> How can I best troubleshoot this?

Hi,
ideally install debuginfo packages for evolution-data-server and
evolution, then reproduce the problem (it works fine for me), and then
get backtrace of the frozen evolution. You can get the backtrace with a
command like this:
   $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" --pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like passwords,
email addresses, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at
least (quotes for clarity only).

There will be one or more WebKitWebPorcess processes, one related to
the composer. Getting backtrace of it might help as well. To recognize
which it is, I suggest to get a list of them (`ps ax | grep WebKitW`)
and after you get the backtrace of the evolution, then get the list
again and the newly added process is the one you want to use as
the "--pid=XXX" argument in the above gdb command.

Also, check what the console says, there can be shown some messages,
runtime claims.

By the way, what is your WebKitGTK version, please?

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Re: [Evolution] evolution :: contacts :: personal information :: no Birthday data from ews account

2021-06-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 11:23 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote:
> May I ask you to file the bug. 

Hi,
sure thing. I noticed I gave you a wrong URL, it was supposed to
reference evolution-ews, not gnome-software. I'm sorry about that
overlook on my side. In any case, I opened the following bug:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/-/issues/155

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution integration with Gnome Clock/Calendar

2021-06-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 23:09 +0100, Stephen via evolution-list wrote:
> My Evolution calendar entries are not showing up in Gnome
> Clock/Calendar and I need some advice on the way froward please
> (Evolution 3.40.2 - Flathub, Ubuntu 21.04 and Gome 3.38.5).

Hi,
the Flatpak version runs in its own sandbox, not providing the data to
anything out of the sandbox, thus the other applications cannot get to
it. There is no way to avoid it and get all the fixes from the client
and server sides.
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Re: [Evolution] Problems forwarding

2021-06-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
Hi,

On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 17:39 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> I believe the message I attached to my previous posting...

ah, I see, you could just remind me and I'd get the message from there.
I lost track on the thread.

> If someone can reproduce the problem, I'll post it as a bug.

I tried with the current development version and the forwarded message
is complete, either if I lose formatting or not. I have set Quoted
Forward style. The Inline forward style works fine too.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution :: contacts :: personal information :: no Birthday data from ews account

2021-06-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 17:36 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote:
> 1949-05-23T11:59:00Z
> and
> 1969-04-07T22:00:00Z

Hi,
I see it, those days are before the Epoch (1970-01-01 UTC), thus they
are presented as negative numbers, which are ignored by
the evolution-ews.

Would you mind to file a bug [1] for that, please? It's better for
history and follow up issues tracking, if any arise. If you cannot do
that, then it's okay, just let me know.
Thanks and bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/new

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Re: [Evolution] Error: "Cannot find any EWS public folders"

2021-06-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 12:36 +0200, Vijay Tandeker wrote:
> This can be controlled by "Manage Subscriptions" option, but it is
> not working for me.

Hi,
it never worked for *Exchange Web Services* accounts, it was never
designed like that for them. It does work for IMAP accounts. In other
words, it depends what account type you have configured.
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Re: [Evolution] Suddenly can't send emails via SMTP. Imap to google works

2021-06-17 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 11:03 +0100, barfonne--- via evolution-list
wrote:
> The last email to be sent via SMTP was on 1/6/21. Help would be much
> appreciated as this is way above my skill level.
> Also I'd like to mention that sending via Imap is very very slow.

Hi,
getting mail and sending mail are two different things, which usually
contact two different services on a single machine, or even two
different machines as such. There is nothing like "sending via IMAP" in
Evolution, the IMAP protocol is used to read messages from the server.
One can upload messages to the server too, but it's not like sending.
To send the message the SMTP server is used (or a sendmail binary), as
you mentioned.

I would suggest to try different connection options for the SMTP server
of the affected account. It looks like the server rejects the
connection on the set port. Try to change the port. Then try to change
the encryption method, from "TLS" to "STARTTLS", in combination with
the other ports. All of this in the account Properties->Sending Email
tab. I think these changes can work without restarting Evolution.

Try to run Evolution from a terminal like this:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=smtp evolution

It can print some information about the SMTP server, if it gets that
far.
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Re: [Evolution] Error: "Cannot find any EWS public folders"

2021-06-17 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 10:07 +0200, Vijay Tandeker via evolution-list
wrote:
> Getting attached error on clicking "Manage Subscriptions". Please
> help on how to resolve the same. Do I need to install any additional
> packages?
> 
> I selected server type as "Exchange web services" while configuring
> my email.

Hi,
what are you trying to achieve, please? The Exchange Web Services
accounts allows to subscribe to public folders only. When the server
doesn't advertise any public folder, then the error message is shown.
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Re: [Evolution] evolution :: contacts :: personal information :: no Birthday data from ews account

2021-06-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 15:20 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote:
> FYI: The anniversary entry changed name from "X-MS-
> ANNIVERSARY;VALUE=DATE:" to "X-EVOLUTION-ANNIVERSARY:"
> 
> How can this problem be solved? Do I have to export the >1000
> contacts in Outlook and re-import it in evolution as a new contact
> folder or is there a switch telling evolution to use the right
> exchange data?

Hi,
the evolution-ews doesn't use the vCard format during the exchange of
the data with the server, it uses the EWS protocol instead, thus the
above "X-" attributes do not matter.

The Birthday and Anniversary read/write/update had been fixed long ago,
within [1], which your 3.36.5 has. I suspect the server doesn't return
the Birthday element or it is set to some odd value.

Could you close evolution, then remove the addressbook cache for the
EWS addressbook (it's at ~/.cache/evolution/addressbook//; if
there are more, you can delete all of them, as they will be re-
populated the next time they are opened (the only downside is the
bandwidth use this repopulate means). Then run the addressbook factory
as this:

   $ EWS_DEBUG=2 /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory -w
&>log.txt

(the actual path can differ in your system) which will debug all the
communication between the server and the evolution-ews for every EWS
address book configured in the Evolution. I do not want that log, it
contains private information, both encoded and  in a plain text mode.
Do not share it anywhere, please.

Once the update will be done and the contacts will not have their
birthday filled, close evolution, soft-kill the factory process:

   $ kill -TERM `pidof evolution-addressbook-factory`

Then open the log.txt file and search for "Birthday" (quotes for
clarity only). That contains the date. Either the format is wrong or
it's not in the file for some/all contacts, or or some other problem
with that date is, that it cannot be read/deciphered by the evolution-
ews. You can see also the contact names, emails and such around this
Birthday, if it's there, which can give you an idea which contact it
references and what value is expected (the one shown in Outlook).

Could you share what failed according to the log, please?

Thanks and bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/-/issues/57


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Re: [Evolution] evolution :: contacts :: personal information :: no Birthday data from ews account

2021-06-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 11:25 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote:
> I use the versions "evolution 3.40.0-1" and "evolution 3.36.5-
> 0ubuntu1".
> Both do not show the Birthday information of persons in a contacts
> folder of an ews account.

Hi,
as far as I can tell, the evolution-ews does support both Birthday and
Anniversary fields.

> When I look to this field with Outlook, the modification should be
> stored in exchange as it is shown as entered with evolution.

I'm not sure what you mean with "should be". Is it stored for you or
not?

I tried it here, with an Exchange2019 server, and the Birthday is
properly stored on the server, even the changes I make in Evolution are
properly reflected in the OWA (Outlook Web Access) interface. The
Microsoft documentation says the Birthday is supported since Exchange
2007 in the EWS, thus pretty much for any Exchange server.
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Re: [Evolution] Problems forwarding

2021-06-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 14:43 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> I frequently see similar failures when I try to respond to emails
> originating from Apple iPhones,  it is as if Apple is not 
> properly demarking the end of message.

Hi,
would it be possible to provide a test message, without any private
information, please? Ideally in a new bug report at:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/new

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Re: [Evolution] Option to invert selection ?

2021-06-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 14:36 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> I tend to work with most applications in their version of dark mode,
> which I haven't found a dark mode for Evolution.

Hi,
Evolution uses theme from the system. Being it a dark theme it will be
shown in the dark colors. The composer preferences have an option to
inherit theme colors in the composer (HTML mode), but I'd not use it,
because your theme colors might not be good for every recipient.

One exception in dark theme colors usage is HTML mail content, which
defaults to white background and black text color. Even this can be
disabled, by unsetting mail-provided colors, though it's kind of
experimental thing. It can be done by:

   $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail preview-unset-html-colors true

As you mentioned flatpak, you need to run this in the sandbox, which
means:

   $ flatpak run --command="$COMMAND" org.gnome.Evolution

Whether it's what you are looking for I'm not sure. Possibly not.

> Is there any short cut to highlight and invert the fore/background
> colors in a single operation, rather than the current 4 step process?

No, there is no such thing. There is/was an old request to provide
"Remove Formatting" option in the composer, which is not addressed yet.

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Re: [Evolution] Generating message list (cancelling) won't cancel. Evolution locked up

2021-06-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2021-06-13 at 19:14 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbch wrote:
> What do I need to do to get out of this problem.  I need to delete
> problem email account, but as soon as evolution starts, it locaks up
> as noted above.

Hi,
it would help to see what evolution is trying to do, to eventually fix
it, but I'm afraid the account is gone now, thus no way to get the
backtrace, right?
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Re: [Evolution] Key 'primary-tasks' in schema 'org.gnome.evolution.calendar' rejected

2021-06-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 17:57 +0200, vallance via evolution-list wrote:
> (evolution:2569): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: 17:55:07.005: The schema default
> value for key 'primary-tasks' in schema 'org.gnome.evolution.calendar'
> was rejected by the binding mapping function.

Hi,
if I'm not mistaken, then it means you've written something in:

   $ gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.calendar primary-tasks

which is not a valid source UID reference. It could be in the past, but
it's not anymore. Try to run this in the terminal:

   $ gsettings reset org.gnome.evolution.calendar primary-tasks

eventually set it to the On This Computer/Personal task list:

   $ gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.calendar primary-tasks 'system-task-list'

Looking into the runtime warnings you pasted, there are more affected
places, not only this one. Maybe you might reset all the stored
GSettings, to start from fresh. I've no idea what could happen to it.
You can reset it with (I didn't try the commands):

   $ gsettings reset-recursively org.gnome.evolution
   $ gsettings reset-recursively org.gnome.evolution-data-server

Use it with caution.

That the Evolution crashes with this is a bug, or at least an
unintended behavior. I do not know whether the crash you face is
addressed by the following change, which landed for 3.40.2, but I'd
guess it is:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/commit/54829e3a734028a531f6f

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Re: [Evolution] Gmail, & Yahoo

2021-06-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-06-11 at 14:05 +0100, David via evolution-list wrote:
> have reinstalled to a flatpak Evolution 3.40.2. This has solved the
> problem of not connecting but both Yahoo & Gmail keep asking for
> passwords etc. Although they do connect sometimes.

Hi,
I'm afraid you face a libsecret bug:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libsecret/-/issues/62
I'm not aware of any workaround.
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution-mapi installation problem

2021-06-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-09 at 13:58 +0300, Михаил Кулаков via evolution-list
wrote:
> for evolution-mapi build results in libmapi library missing and I
> cannot find any suitable package for it.

Hi,
the libmapi evolution-mapi expects comes from an openchange
package/project. You need its development files installed. It seems the
openchange had been removed from Ubuntu at the same time evolution-mapi
had been removed:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openchange
That means you need to build also the openchange project.

> Is there any possibility to get libmapi or maybe exists another way of
> installing evolution-mapi?

An alternative is to try a distribution which (still) provides the
prebuilt version.
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Re: [Evolution] Help

2021-06-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 10:31 +0100, david via evolution-list wrote:
> I have various email accounts which have been set up succsesfully
> except a Yahoo account. All parameters are correct except that it keeps
> asking for the password.

Hi,
you may want to generate an application password on the Yahoo! site,
because Yahoo! requires OAuth2 and your version doesn't support it.

The 3.40.1 has added Yahoo! OAuth2 support:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/317

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Re: [Evolution] Issue with opening links

2021-06-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-09 at 09:20 +0200, Axel Dahlberg via evolution-list
wrote:
> I had a faulty .desktop file for qutebrowser and indeed this was the
> issue. So now it's working.

Hi,
aha, I did not think you have a custom .desktop file for it. I thought
they provide one.

In any case, good you have it working now.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?

2021-06-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 09:02 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> Calendar->View->Current View->[Sorted View|Day View|Work Week
> View|Week View|Month View|List View]

Hi,
I see. I do not have it here, I guess you saved it some time ago. Those
views can be "derived" only from the existing views, thus it's the List
View with some custom modifications (like the sorting, shown columns,
and so on). You can save the views to be able to switch to them easily
and quickly.
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Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?

2021-06-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 17:20 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> Can I ask though (as because of this I have been playing with the
> calendar views!) - what then is the sorted view if not the list view
> in sheep's clothing?

Hi,
what do you mean with the "sorted view", please? Is that just the
current List View?

> I can customise the sorted view and add the type - which then seems
> to be the 'new' list view. Is the sorted view also then new?

Any table can be sorted, the easiest is to click the column heading,
alternatively with a Ctrl key down, to "add this column as the next
column for sorting". Eventually right-click any of the column headers
and choose "Customize View", which will offer you other options.

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Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?

2021-06-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 16:38 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> So the list isn't a 'reminder' of future events - more a data check
> list?

Hi,
yes, that's correct. You can see all your events in the calendar.

> But even then to verify events in any month I'd have to go back to
> day 1 (in my case 2003) and go through each year to build a picture
> of a month - is that right? 

Correct.

> Can I ask what people would use the list view for now?

Check the bug report I referenced earlier. There is the use case.

My understanding is: people want to see what they have defined in the
calendar and eventually cleanup or anything like that the events from
there. There was no such place for it in the past.

> That's not meant as a criticism in anyway, just that I may be missing
> something that I hadn't thought of using!

That's okay, I just removed functionality you've been used to. Such
things hurt (I know that, it happened to me too in the past, with other
projects).

What is the biggest problem of the Month View for you that you do not
use it, please? do you have many events per day, thus they all are not
visible in the day rectangle?

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Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?

2021-06-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 15:41 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> OK. Does it works as expected?

Hi,
it shows you all the events stored in the calendar, with no time
limit. 

I suppose those "missing" events from the Month view are recurring
events. The recurring events are not expanded in the List View,
intentionally (a "forever" repeating event would clutter the List View
easily). You see only the first instance of the recurring events in the
List View, with all the detached instances, which are exceptions for
the recurrence. Check the icons of the events, those with the circular
arrow (though it depends on your icon theme what it looks like [1]) are
recurring events.

I'm afraid you cannot use the List View the way you are used to. I'm
sorry.
Bye,
Milan

[1] 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/raw/master/Adwaita/scalable/actions/view-refresh-symbolic.svg

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Re: [Evolution] Issue with opening links

2021-06-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 15:43 +0200, Axel Dahlberg via evolution-list
wrote:
> I'm using qutebrowser and when clicking links in emails or links in
> the
> app itself (for example the evolution website in the about window) I
> just get a new window of the browser at my starting page and not the
> page of the link.

Hi,
that feels really odd. Evolution relies on gtk+ with this, namely on
gtk_show_uri(), which does all the magics behind. Looking there, the
main part just calls g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri(), which comes
from glib; it searches for the default scheme handler and, well,
launches it. If I understand the glib code correctly, then it calls
a D-Bus method `Open` on an `org.freedesktop.Application` interface for
the scheme handler. I'd guess that your browser has a bug in the D-Bus
method call handling, but it's truly a wild guess.

Try to workaround it by defining a wrapper, which will call the
browser similar to how xdg-open calls it. Create a file in

   ~/.local/share/applications/open-uri-wrapper.desktop

with the following content:

   [Desktop Entry]
   Version=1.0
   Name=open-uri-wrapper
   Exec=qutebrowser %u
   Terminal=false
   Type=Application
   MimeType=x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https

Then call from a terminal:

   $ gio mime x-scheme-handler/http open-uri-wrapper.desktop
   $ gio mime x-scheme-handler/https open-uri-wrapper.desktop

Both should return something like:

   Set open-uri-wrapper.desktop as the default for x-scheme-handler/http

Then, when you click the URL in the Evolution, it should be passed
through the wrapper.

Hope it helps.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Application icons duplicate in panel/taskbar upon opening the application

2021-06-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 11:22 +0100, Simon Long via evolution-list wrote:
> I have uninstalled and reinstalled to no avail, and I do not have
> this behaviour with other applications. 

Hi,
I never heard, nor saw, any such thing in the past. I'd guess the
Cinnamon is confused by flatpak, because the application is run through
flatpak, not directly. I can be wrong though. Maybe I'd try another
flatpak application, to see whether it'll do the same thing or not.
That would be only a test. I would ask the Cinnamon developers on their
opinion.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Calender with html formatted description

2021-06-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 10:08 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > How can I get a presentation of a calendar entry like in Outlook?
> > 
> 
>  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/996
> 
> Basically the RFC for such things specifies plain text only for the
> description field.  The formatted version of the entry is put in a non-
> standard field by, eg, Exchange and is undocumented.

Hi,
the above is true. The bug reference is for being able to write HTML
description in a user friendly way. Evolution can "detect" HTML
description and show it since 3.40.0, which had been done by:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1097
Thus one of the options is to update to a distribution, which ships the
latest stable version to their users.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?

2021-06-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 07:53 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> Has the list view changed from showing just a month's block to showing
> all events?

Hi,
yes, it was changed. See:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/95

> Is there a way to have a list view of calendar events that shows by
> month block?

No, it's not possible to make it work the way it was before the change.
Please note you see only a single calendar in the List View now.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] How to get Evolution to stop marking messages as read?

2021-06-03 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-06-02 at 17:55 -0500, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> I tried turning off the "Mail Preferences" -> "Mark messages as read
> after 0.0 seconds"

Hi,
the "0.0 seconds" means immediately, not as being completely off. I'm
not sure of it from the above, but I guess you unchecked the box in
front of it, which made the number widget insensitive.

You can try to run:

  $ gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail mark-seen

It should return 'false' for you.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2

2021-05-31 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 11:52 +0300, Tim Ehrenhaft via evolution-list
wrote:
> 2 questions: 

Hi,

> 1. How do I make emails flagged for followup to sho in the ToDo panel
> (like Outlook does?)

By converting them to a task or event, using menu option
Message->Create->...

> 2. How can I take recurrence (code) from appointments and apply it to
> tasks, so I don't have to keep creating tasks that repeat..? (like
> Outlook does)

By updating to a more recent version. For what it's worth, the current
stable version is 3.40.1. Yours 3.28.5 had been released on 2018-07-30,
almost 3 years ago.

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Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Retrieving message - when looking at emails

2021-05-31 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 09:54 +0100, Gerard Ceruti wrote:
> I suspect the issue might be a slight lag on the HDD read time.

Hi,
those things (message retrieval and others) are done asynchronously, in
a dedicated thread, which means it can take some time until the other
thread is executed and when it's finished and when it returns the data.
Depending on the message size, it can also take its time to parse the
message and generate an HTML representation of it (which is passed to
the preview panel). The preview panel is updated asynchronously again,
this time passing the data to a WebKitWebProcess, through some inter-
process-communication channels managed by the WebKitGTK itself. All
these things can cause (slight) delays.

Some other delays can be due to a lookup for sender's photo, though
those are done only after the preview panel is updated.

> side question, how do I confirm that I am downloading all the emails,
> i.e. Evolution is not connecting to the email server ?. 

File->Work Offline. Then select a message. If it'll show up, it's
downloaded for offline use. You did not specify what account type you
use (IMAP, POP,...), where for example POP accounts have the message
stored On This Computer. IMAP does not.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] What triggers asking for set up

2021-05-31 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 10:13 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> Lately,  about every 3rd kernel update when I bring up the rebuilt
> Evolution,  it comes up asking
> me to enter all my accounts again ( 8 currently).  So what triggers
> that ask if I'm only doing
> updates?

Hi,
accounts are managed by an evolution-source-registry process. As you
use a Flatpak version, it leaves the evolution-data-server background
processes running even when you close Evolution itself (similarly as
the host system version does). Maybe there happened something to it.
I suggest you to run this command before rebuilding:

   $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution

which will kill all the related processes (those having /app in the
path reported by the `ps ax | grep evolution`).

Whether there happened anything with the 'config' directory used in the
flatpak I do not know. That's stored on the host machine at:

   ~/.var/app/org.gnome.Evolution/config/

if I'm not mistaken.

In any case, this is Flatpak, you do not need to rebuild the
application just because you updated kernel.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Junk-E-Mail folder does not show entries (ews)

2021-05-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 12:01 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote:
> your tip did it. 
> I checked the "View -> Show Junk Messages" (Ansicht -> Unerwünschte
> Nachrichten anzeigen) enty and can now see the mails (crossed out).

Hi,
are the messages marked as Junk by the server or by you/evolution? The
Junk E-Mail is a real folder, it should not have set the Junk flag on
the messages. It's unset, when the message is moved to that folder (by
the evolution-ews).
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Junk-E-Mail folder does not show entries (ews)

2021-05-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 11:12 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote:
> If I delete the ews account in evolution and rebuild it again the
> situation remains.
> 
> What can I do?

Hi,
if your rather old Evolution has it, try View->Show Junk Messages/Show
Deleted Messages, otherwise I do not see a reason why you might not see
messages in the Junk E-Mail folder in an EWS account, apart of some
additional filters being applied for the folder, but that's out of
question when you face the same problem with a fresh new EWS account.

I tried it here, with the current development version (quite the same
as the 3.40.x series in this regard) and I can see messages I marked as
junk, which endend in the Junk E-Mail folder, which has also a special
icon, not a regular folder icon.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Lost email

2021-05-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 02:06 -0400, Ken Wright via evolution-list wrote:
> If I search for the sender I can find it, but I have no idea where it
> is.

Hi,
maybe you accidentally moved it elsewhere, or you have some filters on
in the Inbox. Add a column Location to the view, it'll show where the
message is. You can do that by right-clicking in the table header part
and choose, Add column, then drag&drop the location column to the table
header part.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Printer connection problems

2021-05-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 23:02 -0500, Gerald Ellis via evolution-list
wrote:
> Any and all help will be appreciated.

Hi,
there are plenty of threads in this mailing list about the print
problems, which offer a solution/workaround too. One of the latest,
from the beginning of this month:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2021-May/msg9.html

A Google search for "evolution printer not found" (quotes for clarity
only) gives a reasonable hits as well.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] is there a way to purge cache to force refresh of mail headers

2021-05-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 11:17 +0200, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
wrote:
> I can see that the messages are intact using the pm web client, so I
> was wondering if there is a way that I can force evolution to re-get
> the messages that were damaged without deleting the local account and
> settign everything back up again (which is a pain).

Hi,
sure, it's possible. Simply close Evolution and then delete the
corresponding directory in

   ~/.cache/evolution/mail/

The next time you start Evolution, it will re-populate the local cache.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] gmail imapx extremely slow?

2021-05-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-05-18 at 19:12 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-05-18 at 22:58 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Do you have IMAPX enabled for the account?
> 
> Yes, it's an "imapx" account type and I have Quick Resync enabled (I
> don't know of gmail supports it though) and also "listen for server
> change notifications" is checked.

Hi,
Gmail doesn't support Quick-Resync extension at the moment.

> I have "Check for new messages in all folders" unchecked, but "check
> for new messages in subscribed folders" checked.  I'm not sure what
> would happen if I unchecked that; the docs are not really clear about
> exactly what that means and how these options interact.

The Inbox is always checked, the rest are there to tweak which folders
are checked and which not. When I open folder Properties (context menu
in the folder tree), I see there "Always check for new mail in this
folder"; I'd guess your version has it too. Then you can turn off check
for new mail in the subscribed folders and set only few folders for the
automatic check.

> Oddly I have "show only subscribed folders" unchecked, and yet I only
> see my subscribed folders not my unsubscribed folders.

That's really odd. The folder can disappear when it's unsubscribed, but
the next start it'll appear. It's an old bug, though a hard one to
address, because it means to expose an option specific to IMAP in
Evolution, which is rather bad. Or it should be done somehow in IMAPx,
I do not know.


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Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Unable to attach Inbox email to a message

2021-05-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-05-18 at 12:09 +0200, Louis van Dyk wrote:
> Any ideas where I can look?

Hi,
there did not change anything in this regard on the Evolution side, it
is still handling that. I just tried it and regardless I drag the
message from an IMAP Inbox or a subfolder it is added as the
attachment. The same with an On This Computer/Inbox. This is with the
same version as you use.

You can try to run evolution from a terminal, in case it'll print
anything related there. In case you use GNOME Shell (or other desktop
environment supporting this), I would try to switch from a Wayland
session to an X.org session or vice versa, to test whether it'll have
any impact on the drag&drop.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] Using EteSync in Evolution 3.40.0-1 (Ubuntu 21.04)

2021-05-17 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-05-15 at 16:54 +0200, Moritz Heil wrote:
> I remember Evolution was said to support EteSync since 3.38.

Hi,
it's the other way around. The evolution-etesync can be built for
Evolution version 3.38 and later.

> Do I miss something in Evolution or should I contact the evolution-
> etesymc dev?

You simply install the plugin/module package, in this case
evolution-etesync, and if everything is fine it's all. To add your
EteSync account go to Edit->Accounts->Add->Collection Account and left
it lookup for the EteSync account for you (you should see a checkbox
for it there).

It's sometimes required to restart the background evolution-data-server
processes (and Evolution itself) to have the newly installed plugins
loaded, which can be done with: evolution --force-shutdown , but I do
not expect it being the problem.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Accessing desktop from x2go messes up evolution until local reboot

2021-05-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-05-13 at 09:46 -0500, Daffy Duck via evolution-list wrote:
> I'm not sure what "first mail" you are referring to

Hi,
I meant my first mail in this thread, the lengthy one:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2021-May/msg00025.html

Hope it helps,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Accessing desktop from x2go messes up evolution until local reboot

2021-05-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-05-12 at 18:25 -0500, Daffy Duck via evolution-list wrote:
> however, this no longer works.

Hi,
yes, I understood it from your first mail and I gave you some hints in
my previous reply.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Reply often loses a chunk of the mail trail

2021-05-11 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-05-12 at 01:57 +0200, Louis van Dyk wrote:
> I hope I've described it well enough.

Hi,
it sounds differently than the bug I referenced. What does:

   $ gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail composer-reply-keep-signature

return, please? If it's "false", then run this:

   $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail composer-reply-keep-signature true

to change the behavior. To see what the option does:

   $ gsettings describe org.gnome.evolution.mail composer-reply-keep-signature

Hope it helps.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] calendar appt issue

2021-05-11 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-05-11 at 08:09 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> One would think that reply would be safe :-/

Hi,
it is safe, it's pretty common, I'd say it's used the most often.
I suppose there is another "METHOD:" in the whole calendar file, in
the component itself, is there?
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Re: [Evolution] calendar appt issue

2021-05-10 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 18:41 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> Unable to send item to calendar “mike@*.com :
> mike@*.com”. Cannot receive calendar objects: Unsupported
> method

Hi,
see the message source (Ctrl+U), there's a text/calendar part, which
contains the component. It can be base64 encoded, thus possibly decode
it with a command line `base64 -d`. It might look like:

   BEGIN:VCALENDAR
   ...
   METHOD:xxx
   ...
   BEGIN:VEVENT
   ...
   END:VEVENT
   END:VCALENDAR

It's the 'METHOD' (in the case above the "xxx"), which the destination
calendar does not understand.
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Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Accessing desktop from x2go messes up evolution until local reboot

2021-05-10 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-05-07 at 10:37 -0500, Daffy Duck via evolution-list wrote:
> But this doesn't seem to work anymore.  I have to completely reboot
> the
> machine, it seems, to just get evolution working on the local machine
> once I log in once from x2go remotely.

Hi,
I've no idea how x2go works. You already had some threads here about
it. I doubt Evolution itself changed anything related, the change might
be lower in the stack, in the libraries/executables Evolution uses, or
somewhere else.

You might know Evolution is not only Evolution (like the standalone
Thunderbird, for example), it talks to the evolution-data-server
background processes to get to the data, and these talk to other
processes, like gnome-keyring-deamon, goa-daemon, and so on, but not
directly, they talk to it by using the libraries for it.

With this all on mind, you do not need to restart the whole machine, it
should be enough to restart the needed processes. I'd start with the
data server processes, which are the easiest, just add at the beginning
of your script this:

   evolution --force-shutdown

and it'll do it. When you start Evolution, it'll auto-start the data
server processes as well. If there are other problems, like with the
keyring, then kill it first too, or even start it, before the --force-
shutdown call. Find the past thread about the keyring from 2019-11
here.

This doesn't let you running two Evolution-s at the same time, one on
the host machine and one in the x2go session. I do not know whether
it's a problem for you or not.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Remote calendar & password

2021-05-10 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-05-07 at 13:09 +0100, Mark Stanton wrote:
> While it does accept a blank
> password, it means I have to click the button every time Evolution
> starts up.

Hi,
while for example SMTP has an option to log in without authentication,
the calendars do not have any such option, thus it tries to guess.

A trick to avoid the password prompt (unless the server supports a fake
password) is to not fill the user name for the calendar. That can be
changed in the calendar Properties.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] Unable to print to file

2021-05-03 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-05-03 at 17:49 +0200, aguador via evolution-list wrote:
> In both cases a message appears saying that the file or directory does
> not exist. Even creating an empty file to be overwritten produces the
> same message.

Hi,
one of the bugs I reference to downstream:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1896902

Long story short:

  $ WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution

Hope it helps.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Cropped descenders in HTML-edit-mode

2021-05-03 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-05-03 at 08:28 +0200, Wiethoff, Helge via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Fedora 34 with Evolution 3.40.0 (3.40.0-1.module_f34+11756+2e59385f)
> (with wayland)

Hi,
an unrelated thing, that's a Flatpak version. I suggest you install the
package/RPM version instead. You get better desktop integration.

> descenders are cropped from time to time

That's drawn by WebKitGTK (webkit2gtk3 package, when having installed
the RPM version). A very old bug [1], closed as unreproducible. It can
depend on the font settings, I think.

Bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/600

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Re: [Evolution] Headers don't match email in subscribed folders

2021-04-29 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-04-30 at 01:50 +0200, ajgringo619 via evolution-list
wrote:
> Since ProtonMail doesn't use subfolders yet, and I'm not a big fan of
> their labels, I've been using folder names like "Bus: eBay" and
> "Fin:Coinbase". Could this be a source of the problem?

Hi,
I guess not, but as I've not been able to reproduce I cannot tell for
sure.

Are you able to test with 3.40.x, please? Yours 3.36.4 is too old,
things changed meanwhile and I think there had been done some changes
to avoid this, but I'm not sure when exactly it was done. You can try
the Flatpak version, for testing purposes. Flathub.org provides one.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] Mark as read

2021-04-29 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-04-28 at 14:44 +0200, Eric du Boislouveau via evolution-
list wrote:
> This option has disappeared !
> How can I find it again ?

Hi,
the option is still there, maybe you clicked "Always in current folder
only", since then the prompt goes away. The second option is there are
no unread messages in the subfolder of the selected folder, but I
believe it's not the case.

The option is not reflected in the Preferences, thus you can use:

   $ gsettings org.gnome.evolution.mail prompt-on-mark-all-read true

Eventually, depending on your Evolution version, hold a Shift key when
you press the "Mark All Messages Read" context menu item. It will
prompt you for this single usage.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

2021-04-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 17:07 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > > An alternative would be to refetch everything from the server
> > > from scratch. I do not know how the local cache could get
> > > confused, but in case it is, it'll help. The files are stored in
> > > 
> > >     ~/.cache/evolution/mail//
> > 
> > I'm thinking the refetch when moving sent items to another folder
> > did the trick.
> > I moved back the sent mails to its original folder and the mails
> > are now searchable again.
> > 
> > If this happens again, is there a way force refresh the local
> > cache?

Hi,
the only one is from the command line (as quoted above), there is
nothing in the GUI.

> Not sure what that is about though; "g_application_run" rings of
> something related to gnome maybe?

It's okay, do not get bothered with it. The recent evolution-data-
server has it fixed. It's unrelated to your search issue.
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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

2021-04-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 12:26 +0200, Steve via evolution-list wrote:
> Shot in the dark but also check in your account settings that you
> have chosen to display unsubscribed folders to make sure all folders
> are returned before the search. This one always catches me out when
> setting up exchange accounts.

Hi,
that setting is available only for IMAP accounts (here is used EWS) and
it ("Show only subscribed folders) is off by default, thus newly
created accounts do show subscribed and unsubscribed folders.

A related thing, Sorin searches in a single folder, thus the folder is
already shown in the GUI.

Sorin, I tried it here, with an Office 365 account, and I can search
"Subject or Addresses contain" with "Show All Messages" and "in Current
Folder" options, with no problem. I write part of one of the recipients
and only messages to that person are shown in the Sent Items folder.
This search should be done locally. Could you try to do the search when
you've run evolution from a terminal, please? There's a very little
chance, but maybe it'll print something there.

An alternative would be to refetch everything from the server from
scratch. I do not know how the local cache could get confused, but in
case it is, it'll help. The files are stored in

   ~/.cache/evolution/mail//

It's the directory containing folder-tree file. By moving the directory
away, when Evolution is closed, Evolution will re-download the
information about the folders and their content. It can take a long
time and use a lot of bandwidth, depending on the amount of the folders
and the mails you've stored on the server. There's also no assurance
it'll help for the search. The only thing I know is that it works for
me.

Oh, and another thing is to move away:

   ~/.config/evolution/mail/state.ini

file, which contains information about the settings you've done for
each folder, including the search settings. Only move it away, do not
delete it, thus you can return it back if needed.
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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

2021-04-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 10:56 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> Might there be a problem with those "special" folders Office 365
> likes to use, like Sent Items, Junk Mail, Drafts etc?

Hi,
no, I do not think so.

I guess you've set a different search type. Apart of the "All Messages"
and the "in Current Folder" modifiers you mentioned earlier there's
also the search type hidden under the magnifier icon on the left of the
search box, the place where you enter the "grace" text. This setting is
remembered, thus maybe you changed it to "Subject contains" (or other)
in the past, while you want to search for "Recipients contain" or any
other search now.

Could you verify that, please?

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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

2021-04-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 08:34 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> I can see the mail I wanted, but searching for it doesn't show it
> strangely enough.
> I am in the folder the mail is in and have "Show: All Messages" and
> "Current Folder" selected.

Hi,
could you be a bit more specific, please? What exactly are you
searching for, please? I mean, what the search look like. Is there any
change in the letters (lower case versus upper case), letter
modifications (umlauts and such), ...?

There had been done some search regressions in the 3.36.x series, but I
see the last fix had been done in time of the 3.36.4 version, which you
already have.
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Re: [Evolution] Problem setting up iCloud account in Evolution - Folder parse error

2021-04-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2021-04-25 at 18:04 +0200, Steve via evolution-list wrote:
> I am guessing it would be OK to refer them to the code that Milan put
> together that was used for the red hat fix?

Hi,
to make it clear, it's not a Red Hat fix by any means. It [1] is an
upstream fix, which I backported to Fedora-s, not to Red Hat. You also
call Ubuntu Ubuntu, not Canonical.

What you want to do is to ask the package maintainers of the
distribution you use to backport it [1] into the package; in other
words, to provide a package version with the patch included.
Bye,
Milan

[1] 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/commit/640f152a330e2592f11a11b2cfc5aa61370d1a4c

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Re: [Evolution] Declining Single Calendar Event Deletes Whole Series

2021-04-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-04-23 at 17:14 +0200, Philippe Schenker via evolution-list
wrote:
> Is this potentially a bug? And if so can I report it on the Issue
> tracker from Gitlab? Probably directly on the evolution-ews project?
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/-/issues

Hi,
just for the clarification, if I understand it correctly, it's a
meeting you do not organize, it's organized by someone else.

To answer the above questions, yes for all three. File a bug against
evolution-ews, please.

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Re: [Evolution] EWS settings: modifying repeated meetings/deleting meeting

2021-04-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-04-23 at 05:20 -0500, Karl Leo wrote:
> a) When I organize a repeated meeting and I change one of the future
> appointments, all people on the invitation list get a new confimation
> (accept/reject etc) mail for ALL appointments of this series, not
> only for the one I modified

Hi,
in the EWS world, it's the server sending the meeting
invitations/update notifications. The evolution-ews can disable the
sending, but, if I recall correctly, it cannot tell the server whom to
send the notification and whom to not send it.

> b) When I am invited to a meeting by somebody else, have accepted it
> and later delete the meeting since I cannot attend anymore, ALL
> participants (not only the organizer) get a message that (in German,
> since I use the German version) I "canceled" the meeting, not only my
> participation. 

I think, and only think, this had been fixed in a later version (the
current stable version is 3.40.0). I do not have any evidence for it,
unfortunately.


I confess I can be wrong in any or all of the above.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] Reply often loses a chunk of the mail trail

2021-04-22 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 15:09 +0200, Louis van Dyk wrote:
> So, since the option is enabled in my preferences, should I rather
> disable that?

Hi,
it really only helped to reproduce it, at least for me. It didn't help
at all for some other users. What you might ideally do is to apply the
fix:

   $ cd /tmp/
   $ wget https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/commit/6a7df753b5e.patch 
-O evo.patch
   $ cd /usr/share/evolution/webkit/
   $ sudo patch -p3  
> I'd missed that the sender was another account.

Ah, I see. If you sort messages to a certain folder and you always use
a single account for those messages, then you can right-click the
folder name in the folder tree, pick Properties and there choose the
correct account as the Send Account Override. It helps to avoid
mistakes. The Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->Send Account tab
contains the overrides at a single place, including to prefer certain
account when sending to certain recipient(s) (like when you do not sort
messages to the folders).

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Re: [Evolution] Reply often loses a chunk of the mail trail

2021-04-22 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 02:17 +0200, Louis van Dyk wrote:
> > if I understand it correctly, then this is:
> >  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1365

> The fix mentioned is to enable "Wrap quoted text in replies", but I
> already have that setting enabled.  It seems it's something else.

Hi,
nope, it's not about enabling the option. The option was to reproduce
the problem. The bug summary says what it is about:

   Composer: Nested quoted text can get lost in Reply on HTML mail

which is, if I understand it correctly, what you described.

Bye,
Milan

P.S.: An unrelated topic: Could I dare to ask you how you replied to my
previous message, please? It (the message I'm replying to) completely
broke threading. I see more such messages in this mailing list
recently, from different senders.

Your message lacks an "In-Reply-To" header, which should be the message
you replied to, thus that mine, and it has a "References" header, which
references a message I cannot find in my evolution-list folder at all.
I'm wondering how this could happen.

Using usual reply methods (in this case Ctrl+L to Reply To List, or
other Reply options) should preserve the right headers as expected.
They do for me at least, when you check the messages from me. If you do
this anyhow with Forward, then it's not what it should be done. At
least here, on this list.

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Re: [Evolution] Problem setting up iCloud account in Evolution - Folder parse error

2021-04-22 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-04-21 at 21:10 +0200, Kurt Scherffius wrote:
> [imapx:A] I/O: '* CAPABILITY XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE IMAP4 IMAP4rev1
> CONDSTORE ENABLE QRESYNC QUOTA NAMESPACE UIDPLUS CHILDREN BINARY
> UNSELECT SORT CATENATE URLAUTH LANGUAGE ESEARCH ESORT
> THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES CONTEXT=SEARCH CONTEXT=SORT
> WITHIN SASL-IR SEARCHRES METADATA ID XMSEARCH X-SUN-SORT ANNOTATE-
> EXPERIMENT-1 X-UNAUTHENTICATE X-SUN-IMAP XUM1 MULTISEARCH IDLE LIST-
> STATUS
> A1 OK Completed'
> [imapx:A] I/O: 'A2 NAMESPACE'
> [imapx:A] I/O: '* NAMESPACE (("" "/")) NIL NIL
> A2 OK NAMESPACE completed (took 0 ms)'
> [imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 ENABLE CONDSTORE QRESYNC'
> [imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 OK ENABLE completed'
> [imapx:A] I/O: 'A4 LIST "" INBOX RETURN (CHILDREN SUBSCRIBED STATUS
> (MESSAGES UNSEEN UIDVALIDITY UIDNEXT HIGHESTMODSEQ))'

Hi,
this is interesting. I noticed it only now, after checking the code
slightly more closely. The LIST command, which the server rejects,
contains the 'RETURN (...)' part, which is supposed to be there,
according to the code, only if the server advertises LIST-EXTENDED
capability, but the server does not advertise it, it has only the
LIST-STATUS capability, which is responsible for the 'STATUS (...)'
part of the 'RETURN (...)' part.

In other words, without the 'LIST-EXTENDED' capability there should be
no 'RETURN (...)' in the LIST command.

I'll investigate and test this further, I did not notice anything
obvious on a quick code read, and I will update the following bug with
my finding (it'll be moved to the evolution-data-server, where the code
resides):
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1468

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Re: [Evolution] Reply often loses a chunk of the mail trail

2021-04-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-04-21 at 11:47 +0200, Louis van Dyk wrote:
> Why could this be happening, and how can I stop this from happening in
> future?

Hi,
if I understand it correctly, then this is:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1365

It did not make it into the 3.38.x series. You can apply the change
manually, as mentioned here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1425#note_1065167

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Re: [Evolution] Problem setting up iCloud account in Evolution - Folder parse error

2021-04-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-04-21 at 12:13 +0200, Steve via evolution-list wrote:
> ...and their recent issues may not be resolved.

Hi,
I agree. The log shows:

   [imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 LIST "" INBOX RETURN (CHILDREN SUBSCRIBED
   STATUS (MESSAGES UNSEEN UIDVALIDITY UIDNEXT HIGHESTMODSEQ))'
   [imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 BAD Parse Error (took 0 ms)'

which means the server rejects the LIST command. There's nothing wrong,
as far as I can tell, about the LIST command Evolution uses. Please,
report to the Apple folks they did not fix it yet.

There are bugs against Evolution for this too:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1468
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1470

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Re: [Evolution] Problem setting up iCloud account in Evolution - Folder parse error

2021-04-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-04-20 at 22:00 +0200, Kurt Scherffius wrote:
> $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution reports the following:
> 
> Command 'evolution' not found, but can be installed with:
> 
> sudo apt install evolution
> 
> 
> Evolution has been installed on this computer via the App Center
> application, via flathub/flatpak:

Hi,
the Flatpak application is run differently:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

> https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/
> iCloud Mail - 2 Resolved Issues

That makes sense. Evolution didn't change anything between the two
days, thus it's expected the server changed something. If there are
only some people affected, then is explains it as well.

The debug log can show what the server returned, which can be
eventually reported to the Apple folks.
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Re: [Evolution] Problem setting up iCloud account in Evolution - Folder parse error

2021-04-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-04-20 at 17:04 +0200, Stephen Martin via evolution-list
wrote:
> When trying to sync iCloud account (via IMAP) I get "Error retrieving
> folder list for "username" / Error fetching folders: Parse Error (took
> 0ms)" and no folders for the account are displayed in the folder tree.
> 
> It worked fine yesterday.

Hi,
could there be created a new folder on the server?

You can run Evolution as this:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution

to see the raw IMAP communication. Ideally have enabled only one IMAP
account, if you've more, to not have interleaved the output from
different accounts. I guess the server returns something in a LIST or
LSUB response what tricks the libcamel (part of the evolution-data-
server).

It would be interesting to see whether the current stable version
(3.40.0) will also misbehave on that. Maybe if you could give a try to
a prebuilt Flatpak version from Flathub [1], which might be the easiest
way to do test it. Note the Flatpak version is not integrated with the
rest of the desktop the same way as the native version.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Evolution

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Object Attribute "birthDate"

2021-04-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-04-20 at 09:50 +0200, Stefan Harbich wrote:
> 1. I cannot change the birthday in Evolution. The field is gray and
> not active. Only when I give the field a date with an LDAP client
> will the date be displayed in Evolution. Assuming the date is created
> in the following format (1970-06-09T00: 00: 00)

Hi,
the field is insensitive when the book doesn't advertise the support
for it or when the loggen in user dowsn't have write access on the LDAP
server. The date is truly meant as a date, not date and time. The usual
vCard format is "1970-06-09" (quotes for clarity only).

> 2. If a date is set, is this date also noted in the calendar? I know
> that from Outlook? If this is not done that way, what option do I
> have to set it up accordingly?

Go to the Calendar view and check the "Birthdays & Anniversaries"
calendar. It gathers the information from the selected address books;
right-click the calendar in the Calendar view and pick Properties,
where you can choose which books are included and which not. The same
option is available in the Properties of the respective books.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] Certificate failures.. apologies if I've asked before

2021-04-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2021-04-18 at 11:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
>    GLib-Net:ERROR:../tls/base/gtlsconnection-
>   
> base.c:1394:g_tls_connection_base_handshake_thread_verify_certificate:
> assertion
>    failed: (priv->handshake_context)

Hi,
it's filled here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib-networking/-/issues/97

You might be interested of the following one as well, because it's more
often seen with GNOME 40 (Flatpak runtime/SDK in your case):
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib-networking/-/merge_requests/148

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Re: [Evolution] Weird delay in preview..

2021-04-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-04-12 at 10:23 -0500, Matt Connell wrote:
> Is this the case even in plain-text view?  That is to say, is the
> text version also rendered via webkit?

Hi,
yes, it does use WebKitGTK, both in the preview and in the editor,
regardless of the message content format.

For what it's worth, I've an up to date Fedora Rawhide virtual machine
on which I just noticed something similar in a text editor (SciTE, in
this case). It sometimes fails to update itself, or updates only
partially the window content, thus the viewed text is mixed with the
previously seen part. Maybe the problem is even lower in the stack, not
in the WebKitGTK.
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Re: [Evolution] Weird delay in preview..

2021-04-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-04-12 at 09:40 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> recently did the update and started seeing that frequently the
> preview pane does not render until mouse is in the preview pane. 

Hi,
the preview panel is WebKitGTK. Evolution itself doesn't render
anything there. It can be the latest WebKitGTK did something odd,
possibly in combination with your graphics drivers. Can you try to run
Evolution as:

   $ WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

just make sure there is no evolution process running from the /app
prefix (by running: ps ax | grep evolution), please? I do not know
whether it'll have any impact.
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Re: [Evolution] Update to 3.40.0 changed view

2021-04-11 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 11:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> IMO updates shouldn't override/overwrite existing
> views, at least an update should check, if a button already exists,
> instead of adding a duplicate.

Hi,
the update doesn't do any such thing. The .ui files are versioned,
user's custom file is used only if its version is the same or higher
than the one provided by the installation. The .ui file is not merged
with the one in the installation, there's always used only one of them.
I do not know what you've exactly done, but the change for [1] also
bumped the corresponding .ui file version, thus if you'd use that file,
then you will not notice any change, except of reposition of the item
on the toolbar.

In other words, there was no "hack" done, there is no problem with
the 3.40.0 in this regard.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/847

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