External Address
Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: External Address
That is the correct way to do it. So, what happens? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: External Address
It bounces back from System Administrator with the following message: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:Test #2 Sent:(date) The following recipient(s) could not be reached: CN=John Doe,OU=Company Unit,DC=primary,DC=domainname,DC=com on 7/14/2008 at 8:42 AM The email address could not be found. Perhaps the recipient moved to a different e-mail organization, or there was a mistake in the address. Check the address and try again. I have verified the address is correct. -_Brian - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: RE: External Address That is the correct way to do it. So, what happens? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: External Address
Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. You will likely need to set up BES. Do some looking on blackberry.com for enterprise software. Your bosses might be disappointed to know that they will need to pay again... My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. mapi.dll versions need to be synced between the two servers and a besadmin user with the send as rights to blackberry users needs setting up. As you might imagine, there's quite a bit more detail, but googling for how to setup bes or similar should find some hits. Also check out pinstack.com and blackberryforums. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Do you have a Blackberry server? Look into Blackberry Internet Services (BIS) to pull their Exchange email via IMAP. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:31 AM, King's Kid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Ok it's starting BB to iPone
I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? *__* *Stefan Jafs* This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
I guess this may help. http://images.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/docs/iPhone_Enterprise.pdf __ Stefan Jafs From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
well well well, might have to go get one lol thanks 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I guess this may help. http://images.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/docs/iPhone_Enterprise.pdf *__* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 10:51 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Ok it's starting BB to iPone I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? *__* *Stefan Jafs* This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com _ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. _ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
AMEN!!! BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49:19 AM Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
No we don't have a Blackberry server. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Eric Woodford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:37:38 AM Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Do you have a Blackberry server? Look into Blackberry Internet Services (BIS) to pull their Exchange email via IMAP. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:31 AM, King's Kid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
You have a few options. Ill post them in order of preference. Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES). This is the best method as it allows full wireless sync of everything. Email, calendar, contacts, tasks, etc. You need to buy this and set it up. Blackberry Internet Service (BIS): This is a web based portal that you can setup accounts on. It then polls your mailbox every 15 minutes for new mail. Point it to your OWA URL and it should work. This only sync's your email. No calendar, contacts, tasks. To sync those you use the desktop client. Other options are POP3 or Desktop Redirector. Both blow. From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange No we don't have a Blackberry server. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Eric Woodford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:37:38 AM Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Do you have a Blackberry server? Look into Blackberry Internet Services (BIS) to pull their Exchange email via IMAP. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:31 AM, King's Kid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: External Address
DOH! I knew I forgot something simple. Thanks for reminding me. THat's what happens when I take a vacation. --Brian - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheel..you just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com _ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. _ _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Thank you to everyone for the information. This will really help!! BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:07:59 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange You have a few options. Ill post them in order of preference. Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES). This is the best method as it allows full wireless sync of everything. Email, calendar, contacts, tasks, etc. You need to buy this and set it up. Blackberry Internet Service (BIS): This is a web based portal that you can setup accounts on. It then polls your mailbox every 15 minutes for new mail. Point it to your OWA URL and it should work. This only sync’s your email. No calendar, contacts, tasks. To sync those you use the desktop client. Other options are POP3 or Desktop Redirector. Both blow. From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange No we don't have a Blackberry server. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Eric Woodford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:37:38 AM Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Do you have a Blackberry server? Look into Blackberry Internet Services (BIS) to pull their Exchange email via IMAP. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:31 AM, King's Kid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_s etup Really... you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Well that mean I'll wait for the BB Bold! __ Stefan Jafs From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges.
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
A big part of the iPhone 2.0 is licensing of the Exchange Activesync software from Microsoft. It will allow password policies, remote wipe, etc. Email and Calendar should work flawlessly. I'll know for sure once we get some demos in this week (but from checking the HTTP-agents in our logs, I can see that a few people already have theirs and are working). Whether this is good or bad -- the Exchange copy will overwrite the local email and calendar on the device (only one profile, I guess). The only requirement from an Exchange perspective is to have OWA servers exposed to the internet for HTTPS. If everything else is set to default, Exchange Activesync will work just fine. The only rare exception would be a firewall that wants to block unusual looking HTTP verbs. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
I wonder what type of SSL certs they accept. Each device has a different list of SSL CAs, right? -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone A big part of the iPhone 2.0 is licensing of the Exchange Activesync software from Microsoft. It will allow password policies, remote wipe, etc. Email and Calendar should work flawlessly. I'll know for sure once we get some demos in this week (but from checking the HTTP-agents in our logs, I can see that a few people already have theirs and are working). Whether this is good or bad -- the Exchange copy will overwrite the local email and calendar on the device (only one profile, I guess). The only requirement from an Exchange perspective is to have OWA servers exposed to the internet for HTTPS. If everything else is set to default, Exchange Activesync will work just fine. The only rare exception would be a firewall that wants to block unusual looking HTTP verbs. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: External Address
smacks forehead This is what I get for always using a provisioning system. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
That's a pretty good question...and WM5/6 devices have the same issue. There is actually an 'iPhone Configuration Utility' that you can use to locally provision settings/lock down an iPhone with for Enterprise use. One of the tabs lets you install your own certs, in case you use internal PKI for the OWA/EAS SSL. But if you use something from a large cert house (Thawte, Verisign, etc). you should be safe. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what type of SSL certs they accept. Each device has a different list of SSL CAs, right? -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone A big part of the iPhone 2.0 is licensing of the Exchange Activesync software from Microsoft. It will allow password policies, remote wipe, etc. Email and Calendar should work flawlessly. I'll know for sure once we get some demos in this week (but from checking the HTTP-agents in our logs, I can see that a few people already have theirs and are working). Whether this is good or bad -- the Exchange copy will overwrite the local email and calendar on the device (only one profile, I guess). The only requirement from an Exchange perspective is to have OWA servers exposed to the internet for HTTPS. If everything else is set to default, Exchange Activesync will work just fine. The only rare exception would be a firewall that wants to block unusual looking HTTP verbs. --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Clayton Doige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
I managed to snag a free 20 license BES from Telus here in Winnipeggood deal I thought. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam *From:* Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, *Bob Fronk* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: External Address
LOL-Can't wait to take mine so I can forget some of this stuff too =) -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address DOH! I knew I forgot something simple. Thanks for reminding me. THat's what happens when I take a vacation. --Brian - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Pretty much all vendors will offer Free BES deals if you buy X number of devices. You could always just look at BES Professional for free, just need some CAL's - sorry if someone else already mentioned this earlier in the thread. - John Barsodi From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange I managed to snag a free 20 license BES from Telus here in Winnipeggood deal I thought. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_s etup Really... you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: External Address
Me too Bonnie. I'll be going the first week of August to Angel Fire, NM. Which is going to be about 25 - 30 degrees cooler on average than where I'm at right now.I'm so ready to go On 7/14/08, Miller Bonnie L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL—Can't wait to take mine so I can forget some of this stuff too =) -Bonnie *From:* Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 8:19 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: External Address DOH! I knew I forgot something simple. Thanks for reminding me. THat's what happens when I take a vacation. --Brian - Original Message - *From:* Miller Bonnie L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 9:35 AM *Subject:* RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie *From:* Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: External Address
Shya As if. - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: RE: External Address LOL-Can't wait to take mine so I can forget some of this stuff too =) -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address DOH! I knew I forgot something simple. Thanks for reminding me. THat's what happens when I take a vacation. --Brian - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go – Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: · Folder management · Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers · Task synchronization · Setting an out of office autoreply message · Creating meeting invitations · Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheel….you just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do Active Sync do they? I thought you had to do IMAP? 2008/7/14 Stefan Jafs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 1 users asking what happens if he replaces his BB with an iPhone? I'm on the BES server and I assume I delete him on the BES server but what do I need to do on the E2K3? Simply turn on Active Sync? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of Amico Corporation . Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com This
Anyoone have any experience with Return Path or senderscore.org?
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RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Current production release does not. Version 2 will have ActiveSynch. From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone I don't think iPhones do
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will = does. It was released last week. From: Bingham, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Well, folder management wasn't going to happen...and no, Exchange Activesync isn't 'push' since Microsoft doesn't have control of the communcations stream - it can't be push in the sense that Goodlink and Blackberry use. I'd say it's MUCH better than having a bunch of devices with NO management and NO calendar/contacts, which is what we had with IMAP as the only option in iPhone 1.0... --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting and turning the whole Iphone. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From:Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
If you pay $10 and download the new 2.0 firmware for your iPod touch it will have the same activesync software that the phone has. Unfortunately it only works via wifi, so it isn't 'push' but you can get it on demand. -troy -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Was told that there were some folder management options on the Treo, so I figured it would/should have been there on the iPhone as well (aside from moving messages to different folders). And I agree, IMAP on the 1.x.x iPhone left quite a lot to be desired. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Well, folder management wasn't going to happen...and no, Exchange Activesync isn't 'push' since Microsoft doesn't have control of the communcations stream - it can't be push in the sense that Goodlink and Blackberry use. I'd say it's MUCH better than having a bunch of devices with NO management and NO calendar/contacts, which is what we had with IMAP as the only option in iPhone 1.0... --James On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Andrew Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_s etup Really... you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com http://alsipius.com/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
WiFi access can be anywhere. You just have to be connected and on the internet for the ActiveSync portion to work. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
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What do you use for a provisioning system? On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: smacks forehead This is what I get for always using a provisioning system… Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Ooh, that looks nice. We'll be in the mountains too at our cabin up in Ronald, WA soon (but not soon enough!). Can get hot during the day, but probably not like where you are. Being from the Seattle area, about 75 F and a few percent humidity is hot to me 8) -Bonnie From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address Me too Bonnie. I'll be going the first week of August to Angel Fire, NM. Which is going to be about 25 - 30 degrees cooler on average than where I'm at right now.I'm so ready to go On 7/14/08, Miller Bonnie L. [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL-Can't wait to take mine so I can forget some of this stuff too =) -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address DOH! I knew I forgot something simple. Thanks for reminding me. THat's what happens when I take a vacation. --Brian - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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No vacation for you? Or are you a forgive but never forget person =P From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address Shya As if. - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: RE: External Address LOL-Can't wait to take mine so I can forget some of this stuff too =) -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address DOH! I knew I forgot something simple. Thanks for reminding me. THat's what happens when I take a vacation. --Brian - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin
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Custom code. That's how I got started with Exchange, after I left the mainframe world - hosted Exchange. These days, I'd recommend any newcomer look at HMC 4.5 - they've already done all the heavy lifting needed to get that to work. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address What do you use for a provisioning system? On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: smacks forehead This is what I get for always using a provisioning system. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the
Re: External Address
I get vaca but forgetting is never in the cards. Ignore if possible, forget hahahaha =) - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: RE: External Address No vacation for you? Or are you a forgive but never forget person =P From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address Shya As if. - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: RE: External Address LOL-Can't wait to take mine so I can forget some of this stuff too =) -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address DOH! I knew I forgot something simple. Thanks for reminding me. THat's what happens when I take a vacation. --Brian - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Pardon the direct email, hope you don't mind. You seem to have a grasp on the setup and others don't seem to have a high tolerance at more novice type questions. What I'm driving at is how to setup an IPOD touch via Wifi if I'm at home. I've connected successfully via wifi at work. How do I setup the unit to sync up with exchange over the internet when at home is what I'm unclear on. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
Re: External Address
Found it - for fewer than 300 staff and no WSS or OCS, it looks a little heavyweight for my needs, but I'm going to peek at it and see. Thanks for the pointer! Kurt On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Custom code. That's how I got started with Exchange, after I left the mainframe world - hosted Exchange. These days, I'd recommend any newcomer look at HMC 4.5 - they've already done all the heavy lifting needed to get that to work. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: External Address What do you use for a provisioning system? On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: smacks forehead This is what I get for always using a provisioning system. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: External Address Did you mail-enable the contact correctly using the Exchange ADUC tools? -Bonnie From: Brian Rudnicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: External Address Hi folks. I have a dist list on Exchange 2003 that I need to add an external contact to so they can receive mail from the list. I tried creating a Contact in our AD OU, and then added that to the dist list. However, it will not pass messages to that address. I thought this was the way to do it, but I am wrong. Did I miss something? Thanks, Brian ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Is your work OWA/OMA accessible to the outside? Can you get to it from your house using a PC without VPN? -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Pardon the direct email, hope you don't mind. You seem to have a grasp on the setup and others don't seem to have a high tolerance at more novice type questions. What I'm driving at is how to setup an IPOD touch via Wifi if I'm at home. I've connected successfully via wifi at work. How do I setup the unit to sync up with exchange over the internet when at home is what I'm unclear on. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
OWA is accessible BUT not without an RSA key -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Is your work OWA/OMA accessible to the outside? Can you get to it from your house using a PC without VPN? -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Pardon the direct email, hope you don't mind. You seem to have a grasp on the setup and others don't seem to have a high tolerance at more novice type questions. What I'm driving at is how to setup an IPOD touch via Wifi if I'm at home. I've connected successfully via wifi at work. How do I setup the unit to sync up with exchange over the internet when at home is what I'm unclear on. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations *
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Not that importantjust got this shot down anyway. Was more curious if it was plausible or not. -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Is your work OWA/OMA accessible to the outside? Can you get to it from your house using a PC without VPN? -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Pardon the direct email, hope you don't mind. You seem to have a grasp on the setup and others don't seem to have a high tolerance at more novice type questions. What I'm driving at is how to setup an IPOD touch via Wifi if I'm at home. I've connected successfully via wifi at work. How do I setup the unit to sync up with exchange over the internet when at home is what I'm unclear on. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
So then you are using an internal URL to access ActiveSync while at work. Do you have an IPSec VPN that you can connect to from the outside/home? - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone OWA is accessible BUT not without an RSA key -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Is your work OWA/OMA accessible to the outside? Can you get to it from your house using a PC without VPN? -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Pardon the direct email, hope you don't mind. You seem to have a grasp on the setup and others don't seem to have a high tolerance at more novice type questions. What I'm driving at is how to setup an IPOD touch via Wifi if I'm at home. I've connected successfully via wifi at work. How do I setup the unit to sync up with exchange over the internet when at home is what I'm unclear on. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF.
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Yep -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone So then you are using an internal URL to access ActiveSync while at work. Do you have an IPSec VPN that you can connect to from the outside/home? - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone OWA is accessible BUT not without an RSA key -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Is your work OWA/OMA accessible to the outside? Can you get to it from your house using a PC without VPN? -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Pardon the direct email, hope you don't mind. You seem to have a grasp on the setup and others don't seem to have a high tolerance at more novice type questions. What I'm driving at is how to setup an IPOD touch via Wifi if I'm at home. I've connected successfully via wifi at work. How do I setup the unit to sync up with exchange over the internet when at home is what I'm unclear on. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM,
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Thanks Bob. I don't suppose you can point to a link that would show me how to set this up with my Exchange server?? BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:37:45 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From:Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Ditto. It doesn't take much to run BES at ALL. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_s etup Really... you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com http://alsipius.com/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Actually the touch is almost exactly like the iPhone. Same 2.0 firmware update for the touch too. In fact, many people have actually hacked the touch to make phone calls. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them the first day. I played a bit with it yesterday, it is an awesome unit. Best feature on it I think is Mario Kart. It works like a wireless wii steering wheelyou just drive along by tilting
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone
Right you will need the same from the Iphone, We don't have OWA on the outside at my work either but I can VPN in from the Iphone and get exchange syncs after that is done -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone So then you are using an internal URL to access ActiveSync while at work. Do you have an IPSec VPN that you can connect to from the outside/home? - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone OWA is accessible BUT not without an RSA key -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Is your work OWA/OMA accessible to the outside? Can you get to it from your house using a PC without VPN? -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Pardon the direct email, hope you don't mind. You seem to have a grasp on the setup and others don't seem to have a high tolerance at more novice type questions. What I'm driving at is how to setup an IPOD touch via Wifi if I'm at home. I've connected successfully via wifi at work. How do I setup the unit to sync up with exchange over the internet when at home is what I'm unclear on. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Cell phones weren't TV's or Music players or camera's, but now they are being morphed into that. :P iPod Touch could be your next TV remote, belt buckle, or pet chew toy. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone iPod Touch isn't a phone. There is no reason to expect it would behave like one. -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Only Wifi huh? No go if I'm outside of the company's network range -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yes, via WiFi. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Beckett, William (Bill) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Sorry to hijack but along similar lines Can an IPOD touch be setup to retrieve messages from an exchange server? -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Follow the BES install instructions and you will see everything you need. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Thanks Bob. I don't suppose you can point to a link that would show me how to set this up with my Exchange server?? BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:37:45 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_s etup Really... you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com http://alsipius.com/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to Exchange. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Yep. My son has one, he is the admin type for his company. Active sync is working great for them, they deployed 7 of them
RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
This should point you in the right direction. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/support/preinstallation/exchange.jsp Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Follow the BES install instructions and you will see everything you need. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Thanks Bob. I don't suppose you can point to a link that would show me how to set this up with my Exchange server?? BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:37:45 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_s etup Really... you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com http://alsipius.com/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Tim, You're obviously not an Executive so you can't see the true benefits of the I-Phone ;-) - Sean On 7/14/08, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Will it sync Outlook notes? From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone It works pretty well, if you already have OWA and OMA on the outside of your Firewall. Otherwise you will need to expose those in order for your Iphones to work. We got some here working already and Id have to say it beats my BB hands down in function, plus the extra features are killer. You can download the erase program as well to control the Iphones remotely and to a remote wipe. Setup is very simple and Apple has a config program that you can setup an XML file and email it to the Iphones so the connect back to
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
www.blackberry.com they have a very complete KB although some what problamatic to search. - Original Message - From: King's Kid To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Thanks Bob. I don't suppose you can point to a link that would show me how to set this up with my Exchange server?? BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:37:45 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
ROFLMAO - how true! From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Tim, You're obviously not an Executive so you can't see the true benefits of the I-Phone ;-) - Sean On 7/14/08, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF. http://support.apple.com/manuals/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf Exchange ActiveSync Features Not Supported - Not all Exchange features are supported, including, for example: * Folder management * Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint servers * Task synchronization * Setting an out of office autoreply message * Creating meeting invitations * Flagging messages for follow-up - John Barsodi From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone Negative no notes or tasks L Only Email, Calendar and Contacts. Also there's a downside, It will only sync Either Exchange or Personal Items, so If you have more than one place for Contacts you can only choose one, same for the rest. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
I would have to say that I don't think you disagreed with me, or Don, at all. You said pretty much the same thing. The iPhone is Cool, but you have to settle for less in the business productivity area to make it work. The whole I have a hammer, so everything looks like a nail approach comes to mind...only now it is I have an iPhone and it is cool, so I will make it work for business. And I'm not a huge fan of BB anymore either (I've used them since the over-sized pager days), but since WM6 and 6.1 have come out I don't feel that BB brings enough to the table to justify the extra cost and infrastructure. Then again, I'd would be somewhat lost without OneNote Mobile, a GREAT productivity enhancer for the mobile platform. Once you start using it, it makes you wonder why you ever used Word. ;-) Tim -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we bring in and support our effort to move company data on to personal, privatly owned devices with no confidentiality agreement in place). Then put it on the support list. Steven On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go - Things not included. Ya, you can't create a meeting invite? WTF.
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be made in a future firmware update. It definitely makes me want a Blackberry and kind of sorry that I didn't wait for the Bold to come out, but e-mail capabilities were only part of my purchasing equation. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ok it's starting BB to iPone http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2008/07/11/449196.aspx First answer to the user is, not this week. Second, check with your boss. Third, TEST that you can enforce the existing policies you do on your BB environment with the activeSync. (Well, test that you can actually get it to work and that it will not negatively impact your work week with additional maintenance and overhead you can't absorbe with the present workload. Fourth, get a device to test with. Not necessarily an iPhone Fifth, get a support model for it. As in SLA = Service Level Agreement, not Service Level Assumption (you are assumed to support anything we
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Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Thanks Bob, I appreciate it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:55:02 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange This should point you in the right direction. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/support/preinstallation/exchange.jsp Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Follow the BES install instructions and you will see everything you need. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Thanks Bob. I don't suppose you can point to a link that would show me how to set this up with my Exchange server?? BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:37:45 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From:Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Thanks Matt. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:07:05 PM Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange www.blackberry.com they have a very complete KB although some what problamatic to search. - Original Message - From: King's Kid To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Thanks Bob. I don't suppose you can point to a link that would show me how to set this up with my Exchange server?? BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:37:45 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From:Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really… you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange
Everytime I go in there I hit an area that requires a username and password. M - Original Message - From: Bob Fronk To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange This should point you in the right direction. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/support/preinstallation/exchange.jsp Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Follow the BES install instructions and you will see everything you need. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Thanks Bob. I don't suppose you can point to a link that would show me how to set this up with my Exchange server?? BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:37:45 PM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Microsoft VM is free. VMware has a free version. BES runs very well in a VM. Or an old desktop PC. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Unfortunately, we don't have the hardware to run it. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:38:52 AM Subject: RE: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange FYI, Sprint is giving a BES server license FREE if you purchase 5 or more BB devices. You might want to talk to your Sprint account manger to get your license. Sam From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Why don't people ask IT FIRST? We got a call from a user in Amsterdam, 'I just bought a Blackberry'... 'Take it back and get a Smart Phone, we don't support it' was the response. Without a BES there is no point to getting Blackberries, even if they are a good Canadian company ;-) 2008/7/14 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well done Bob, ditto On 7/14/08, Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way is to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server. However, it sounds like you probably don't have the licenses for that. If you have your Exchange server setup for OWA, you can go to the BIS website of your cell provider and setup an account for each user and then add their email accounts. However, this will not work as well as BES. Calendars will not sync and the email does not sync as well in my experience. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/internet/email.jsp#tab_tab_email_setup Really. you need BES to properly manage Blackberries in an enterprise environment. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Setting up blackberries to connect to Exchange Hi all, My bosses in their infinite wisdom have decided to give our roaming supervisors Blackberry Curve 8330 phones. They have already received them. However, I wasn't notified until today that they are expecting to receive their e-mail using them. I've checked on Sprint's website (useless) and Microsoft's website and could find information about if there's a problem but not how to do an initial set-up. My question is, is there anything I need to do to our Exchange server to allow this? If so, could someone point me to a step by step to do it. Exchange 2k3, fully patched on an SBS 2k3 server sp2 TIA BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
For most people I would agree that it will be a cool device. Here are my hang-ups and until they are resolved most of my business execs will not move to it. Even though they want it. No real security. With BB I can rest assured with a good pw that the data on it is secure. I can wipe it quickly and those little things like corporate contacts, confidential emails, secure data is well still secure.. The battery life on an Iphone is what a 10th of a BB, in fact I can talk several hours and still have it uncharged for the next day and be good. Now, I will say the nice browsing, multimedia capabilities and cool apps are nice, but they cannot make up for the 2 above issues. Close..at least it will give BB to pause and release some truly stellar products or continue to lose some margin. Once Apple makes it secure and I mean DOD secure, then the revolution will begin. Greg -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPone As an iPhone user (both the 1st gen and the new 3G model), I'm very underwhelmed by the ActiveSync functions in the 2.0 software. Push is a bit of a misnomer, unless I've completely configured it wrong, plus it doesn't automatically go out and grab subfolders, nor does it give you the option to select certain folders to do that with - so if you've got server-side rules, it doesn't work well. The wireless calendar function does work well and I'm not currently syncing my contacts (since you can only keep one list of contacts at a time). I'm going to (as always) stick with it and hope for some of these changes to be
RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone
There's probably a couple of other things - assuming the mention earlier in this thread about the folder issues and inability to invite others to meetings is correct, this is a real lack - how is the GAL lookup capability? We count on the intranet access we get via the BES for trouble ticket system access and we certainly are not about to expose this to the internet. There seem to be a number of business related issues/lacks - but I agree it looks cool/neatsy/fun/etc. - and CAN is some environments sorta do business email. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone For most people I would agree that it will be a cool device. Here are my hang-ups and until they are resolved most of my business execs will not move to it. Even though they want it. No real security. With BB I can rest assured with a good pw that the data on it is secure. I can wipe it quickly and those little things like corporate contacts, confidential emails, secure data is well still secure.. The battery life on an Iphone is what a 10th of a BB, in fact I can talk several hours and still have it uncharged for the next day and be good. Now, I will say the nice browsing, multimedia capabilities and cool apps are nice, but they cannot make up for the 2 above issues. Close..at least it will give BB to pause and release some truly stellar products or continue to lose some margin. Once Apple makes it secure and I mean DOD secure, then the revolution will begin. Greg -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dog the iPhone 2.0 software or the device as a whole - even though I was a little frustrated with it at the time. After testing it a little bit more I found that I would get messages around 10 seconds after the message hitting my Outlook, which is phenomenal compared to IMAP and nearly a wash when comparing it to the BB (what's the difference of 11 seconds). Calendar also works great. I guess my biggest issue was that I personally have a lot of folders and a lot of server-side rules (I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm not getting any love from ActiveSync. One of the nice things is that at this point with the iPhone, the only significant upgrades I can see being made are to storage, the camera, and the battery. All of the other issues that are around can be made in the software. There's nothing preventing someone or some company from writing a better mail app or suite of apps that handle these things more gracefully (and allow us to type an e-mail in horizontal mode, come on Apple). It's right there and I want to see it succeed. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone I'd have to say I differ in your opinion :) I have a 8 GB 1G phone with the 2.0 software loaded. I am able to get my emails in a push format, albeit not as fast as my blackberry, but nonetheless the mails do flow in without, I only have 1 main outlook folder and use manual fire rules after I process all my email. I haven't tested folders yet, Contacts work flawlessly and so does the Calendar. I can live without Notes and Tasks for now, since I don't use them much. Overall I'm very impressed with what apple has done the apps that can run on the Iphone are very good, I'm a big windows/Intel/blackberry fan, but since I got my Iphone I'm leaning towards all things apple. Is it perfect?, by no means but Blackberry has had quite lot of time to perfect their stuff. Overall as a techie I love it, but perhaps as an Exchange/BES Admin I can see where it would give me headaches with user support -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone Very well said! -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Ok it's starting BB to iPhone All reasons that in spite of the new ActiveSync capabilities of the iPhone, it is still not a real business-class device. The remaining lack of Exchange capabilities coupled with the lack of interoperability with most business apps cause the iPhone to fall far short of what would be required for me to add it to my Supported Devices list. While being able to use my phone to pass virtual b33r and drive virtual karts might be Neat or Fun, it doesn't get me far in the business world. Tim -Original Message- From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday,
