Re: Exchange 2007 and VMWare
We've got a pure Exchange 2007 environment running on VMWare, and it functions just fine for us. The migration from our physical system was flawless - however we built an entirely new virtualised AD structure at the same time, which may or may not have helped with the smooth migration process. If you are referring to VMWare HA, the HA process doesn't have any effect on the Exchange servers that we can see - aside from a small lag in performance for a few minutes. 2009/3/11 John Bowles john_bow...@yahoo.com All- I've been tasked to research E2K7 and VMWare. I know VMWare say's they support this type of installation.. but what I'm looking for is people that actually have this type of setup in their environment or have set this up in someone's environment. Has anyone had success with this design scenario? Were there any gotcha's? How does well does it work with HA? TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
OWA Message Content not displayed
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction with a problem I am having with Outlook Web Access on a single Exchange 2003 Standard installation. About half the time after the server is rebooted there is a problem that the message content will not display. The message list is visible, but the preview pane is completely blank. Double clicking on a message opens a new window, also completely empty. Sometimes issuing IISreset at the command prompt will 'magically' fix the problem. Other times rebooting the Exchange server fixes it. Other times, like today after several IISresets, and reboots it is still not working. This problem actually started after MessageSolution added their OWA add-in to my system to handle messages that are stubbed by their archiving software. In the past they have remoted into my server and fixed the problem for me, but I have had to wait days for them to fix it, and it is always in the middle of the night because apparently the only people they have who can do this are located in China. They have promised several times to give me instructions on how to fix this, but they never follow through. Is there anything I can look at? Is there a pretty standard way that they might have implemented this add-in that may have some typical things to look at? I know I'm fishing here, but I am not knowledgeable about how OWA and IIS work, and the vendor is almost completely unresponsive. Thanks for any guidance someone might offer. Ralph Smith Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server
How many mailboxes? What's the storage backend? How big are the stores? What's the front-end look like? -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I have 2 x HP BL680 G5 E7450 2P 8G Servers to use as either - Clustered mailbox server using CCR or configure as ESX virtual hosts to support virtual mail box server/s Looking for a recommendation on which way to go... thanks in advance Brian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: OWA Message Content not displayed
Under options in the browser install email security, has worked for me previously From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: 12 March 2009 12:18 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OWA Message Content not displayed I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction with a problem I am having with Outlook Web Access on a single Exchange 2003 Standard installation. About half the time after the server is rebooted there is a problem that the message content will not display. The message list is visible, but the preview pane is completely blank. Double clicking on a message opens a new window, also completely empty. Sometimes issuing IISreset at the command prompt will 'magically' fix the problem. Other times rebooting the Exchange server fixes it. Other times, like today after several IISresets, and reboots it is still not working. This problem actually started after MessageSolution added their OWA add-in to my system to handle messages that are stubbed by their archiving software. In the past they have remoted into my server and fixed the problem for me, but I have had to wait days for them to fix it, and it is always in the middle of the night because apparently the only people they have who can do this are located in China. They have promised several times to give me instructions on how to fix this, but they never follow through. Is there anything I can look at? Is there a pretty standard way that they might have implemented this add-in that may have some typical things to look at? I know I'm fishing here, but I am not knowledgeable about how OWA and IIS work, and the vendor is almost completely unresponsive. Thanks for any guidance someone might offer. Ralph Smith Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this message or its contents may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by electronic mail and delete the original message and any attachments without retaining any copies. _ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: A very odd problem...
There were early issues with vss causing backups to fail - most of the time but not all - if you backed up the systemstate at the same time as Exchange. I thought all of those were fixed by sp2 tho...You might try splitting them up. Have you patched the backup server, specifically have you patched the Exchange tools to match the Exchange server? What's going on in the logs and in the backup log? Only that single failure message? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: A very odd problem... Anyone? Bueller? After lots of fiddling, still no success. Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even regenerated the .bks file. Kurt On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: All, In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an E2k3 server - all are SP2 R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange server. The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server. However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working . I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange server, but it was failing with this error message: The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted. The operation was ended. I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file, whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server. I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I got this time is different, but still a failure: The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted. I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS, and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances. Any help much appreciated. Thanks, Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange 2007 and VMWare
HI Alex. Long time no hear from you! IOPS delivered is always a concern. Depending on the I/O delivery mechanism, virtualization may impact it. Or it may not. J From: Alex Fontana [mailto:afontana...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 and VMWare Interesting statement... Depending on the I/O availability from the disk solution would be a matter of concern in a virtual and physical deployment, not just in the virtual. In all tests that I've performed I/O has not been a concern for going physical over virtual. IMO the only concern for virtualizing (on VMware at least) would be for deployments where it is desired to exceed the 4 CPU limitation of the virtual machine or Windows 2008 fail-over clusters are desired. -alex ps/ maybe i'm bias...;-) On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote: You can either use VMware's HA or Exchange's HA - but not both. Note that that is the Microsoft support position and not VMware's. Exchange 2007 works just fine in a virtualized environment. I've got a number of deployments out there. Depending on I/O requirements and I/O availability from your disk solution, you might consider putting the mailbox role on physical hardware and everything else on virtual. -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and VMWare All- I've been tasked to research E2K7 and VMWare. I know VMWare say's they support this type of installation.. but what I'm looking for is people that actually have this type of setup in their environment or have set this up in someone's environment. Has anyone had success with this design scenario? Were there any gotcha's? How does well does it work with HA? TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server
The clue is that they probably spent a whole wedge of cash on the ESX host to support the number of mailbox servers they had running. Money that could have been equally well spent on *gasp *physical servers! My colleague has just been to VMworld and told me that they'd virtualised all their MBX servers, but I'm not too sure what the config of a) the host and b) the guest OSes. I'll try and find out. Richard PS - I'm a big fan of not virtualising for the sake of virtualsing. -Original Message- From: bounce-8455945-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8455945-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Campbell, Rob Sent: 12 March 2009 12:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I remember an article from VMware about how they had set up Exchange 2007 in a totally virtual environment. They had several thousand mailboxes, and while the mailbox were all being served from the same ESX host, they had multiple mailbox servers installed on that host and no more that a couple thousand mailboxes per server. I think there's a clue there somewhere.. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server How many mailboxes? What's the storage backend? How big are the stores? What's the front-end look like? -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I have 2 x HP BL680 G5 E7450 2P 8G Servers to use as either - Clustered mailbox server using CCR or configure as ESX virtual hosts to support virtual mail box server/s Looking for a recommendation on which way to go... thanks in advance Brian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server
I think you might have been better off cost-wise with a single dedicated physical server with all the mailboxes on it by the time you factored in all the Exchange server licenses you'd have to buy to do it the way they had it set up. -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server The clue is that they probably spent a whole wedge of cash on the ESX host to support the number of mailbox servers they had running. Money that could have been equally well spent on *gasp *physical servers! My colleague has just been to VMworld and told me that they'd virtualised all their MBX servers, but I'm not too sure what the config of a) the host and b) the guest OSes. I'll try and find out. Richard PS - I'm a big fan of not virtualising for the sake of virtualsing. -Original Message- From: bounce-8455945-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8455945-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Campbell, Rob Sent: 12 March 2009 12:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I remember an article from VMware about how they had set up Exchange 2007 in a totally virtual environment. They had several thousand mailboxes, and while the mailbox were all being served from the same ESX host, they had multiple mailbox servers installed on that host and no more that a couple thousand mailboxes per server. I think there's a clue there somewhere.. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server How many mailboxes? What's the storage backend? How big are the stores? What's the front-end look like? -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I have 2 x HP BL680 G5 E7450 2P 8G Servers to use as either - Clustered mailbox server using CCR or configure as ESX virtual hosts to support virtual mail box server/s Looking for a recommendation on which way to go... thanks in advance Brian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~
RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server
It's all in the storage the network infrastructure. S -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server The clue is that they probably spent a whole wedge of cash on the ESX host to support the number of mailbox servers they had running. Money that could have been equally well spent on *gasp *physical servers! My colleague has just been to VMworld and told me that they'd virtualised all their MBX servers, but I'm not too sure what the config of a) the host and b) the guest OSes. I'll try and find out. Richard PS - I'm a big fan of not virtualising for the sake of virtualsing. -Original Message- From: bounce-8455945-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8455945-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Campbell, Rob Sent: 12 March 2009 12:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I remember an article from VMware about how they had set up Exchange 2007 in a totally virtual environment. They had several thousand mailboxes, and while the mailbox were all being served from the same ESX host, they had multiple mailbox servers installed on that host and no more that a couple thousand mailboxes per server. I think there's a clue there somewhere.. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server How many mailboxes? What's the storage backend? How big are the stores? What's the front-end look like? -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I have 2 x HP BL680 G5 E7450 2P 8G Servers to use as either - Clustered mailbox server using CCR or configure as ESX virtual hosts to support virtual mail box server/s Looking for a recommendation on which way to go... thanks in advance Brian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they aren't very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they aren’t very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on �s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they aren���t very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
Every 15 minutes it will check to see if anything has changed. From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles _ From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they arent very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on ���s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they are��t very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
Will that involve doing any work on the client side? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on �s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they are��t very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
Good Call, I really don���t know. I think that since autodiscover site information is stored as an SCP in AD for the client access box it would be ok, assuming Outlook i�t caching that URL and it looks to AD for the location. But maybe for OL 2007 to GET the new autodiscover addresses in the departmental forests, it has to be setup again (like new mail profile setup). A quick scan of my registry doesn���t show my autodiscover URL, so it ist a permanent entry. -troy -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Will that involve doing any work on the client side? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on ���s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they are��t very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
If the network is segmented, might it be easier to control who's hitting that CAS server by blocking the networks in the other domains/forests in the CAS server's firewall? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Good Call, I really don�t know. I think that since autodiscover site information is stored as an SCP in AD for the client access box it would be ok, assuming Outlook i���t caching that URL and it looks to AD for the location. But maybe for OL 2007 to GET the new autodiscover addresses in the departmental forests, it has to be setup again (like new mail profile setup). A quick scan of my registry does��t show my autodiscover URL, so it i�t a permanent entry. -troy -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Will that involve doing any work on the client side? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on �s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they are��t very happy with that. Anyone know how to
Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
Rob you beat me to it... I was going to ask the question of why can't the networks be segmented off so they can't see each other? Is that a possibility? _ John Bowles - Original Message From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:55:05 AM Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments If the network is segmented, might it be easier to control who's hitting that CAS server by blocking the networks in the other domains/forests in the CAS server's firewall? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Good Call, I really donÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t know. I think that since autodiscover site information is stored as an SCP in AD for the client access box it would be ok, assuming Outlook iÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t caching that URL and it looks to AD for the location. But maybe for OL 2007 to GET the new autodiscover addresses in the departmental forests, it has to be setup again (like new mail profile setup). A quick scan of my registry doesÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t show my autodiscover URL, so it iÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t a permanent entry.. -troy -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Will that involve doing any work on the client side? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
That would seem to imply simply not routing between those networks. I suspect in a campus network environment that's not going to be good solution. -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Rob you beat me to it... I was going to ask the question of why can't the networks be segmented off so they can't see each other? Is that a possibility? _ John Bowles - Original Message From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:55:05 AM Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments If the network is segmented, might it be easier to control who's hitting that CAS server by blocking the networks in the other domains/forests in the CAS server's firewall? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Good Call, I really donÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t know. I think that since autodiscover site information is stored as an SCP in AD for the client access box it would be ok, assuming Outlook iÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t caching that URL and it looks to AD for the location. But maybe for OL 2007 to GET the new autodiscover addresses in the departmental forests, it has to be setup again (like new mail profile setup). A quick scan of my registry doesÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t show my autodiscover URL, so it iÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t a permanent entry.. -troy -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Will that involve doing any work on the client side? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I can be totally off here) that this is a user education problem. _ John Bowles From: Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:34:03 AM Subject: Autodiscover service and
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
I guess from the central computing perspective, shutting down the central CAS to the offending segments is the easiest route. And the idea of creating custom autodiscover sites would apply to the departmental forests, not central computing (who probably doesn't have privileges on those other forests to create those sites and server changes) So as long as central computing doesn't have users in those offending segments, that is path of least resistance. -troy -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Rob you beat me to it... I was going to ask the question of why can't the networks be segmented off so they can't see each other? Is that a possibility? _ John Bowles - Original Message From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:55:05 AM Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments If the network is segmented, might it be easier to control who's hitting that CAS server by blocking the networks in the other domains/forests in the CAS server's firewall? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Good Call, I really donÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t know. I think that since autodiscover site information is stored as an SCP in AD for the client access box it would be ok, assuming Outlook iÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t caching that URL and it looks to AD for the location. But maybe for OL 2007 to GET the new autodiscover addresses in the departmental forests, it has to be setup again (like new mail profile setup). A quick scan of my registry doesÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t show my autodiscover URL, so it iÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t a permanent entry.. -troy -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Will that involve doing any work on the client side? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a whole lot about your environment. When setting up a client there is an option at the bottom that allows for manual setup on Outlook 2007. Is there a reason that cannot be done? Or make sure that users are putting in the correct domain information when logging on for the first time? It sounds to me (and I
Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
I guess I should of been more descriptive with what I was trying to say... What I was trying to get across was..is there a way to prevent Auto-discovery from going off-net? And just staying within the confines of that physical network for grins say Engineering Department? And not dipping over into Central's physical network? _ John Bowles - Original Message From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:03:11 PM Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That would seem to imply simply not routing between those networks. I suspect in a campus network environment that's not going to be good solution. -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Rob you beat me to it... I was going to ask the question of why can't the networks be segmented off so they can't see each other? Is that a possibility? _ John Bowles - Original Message From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:55:05 AM Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments If the network is segmented, might it be easier to control who's hitting that CAS server by blocking the networks in the other domains/forests in the CAS server's firewall? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Good Call, I really donÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t know. I think that since autodiscover site information is stored as an SCP in AD for the client access box it would be ok, assuming Outlook iÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½t caching that URL and it looks to AD for the location. But maybe for OL 2007 to GET the new autodiscover addresses in the departmental forests, it has to be setup again (like new mail profile setup). A quick scan of my registry doesÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t show my autodiscover URL, so it iÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿ÿÿ¿½t a permanent entry.. -troy -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Will that involve doing any work on the client side? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy..me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Couple ways to solve this issue. 1) Manipulate DNS (horrible idea, cant believe I included it as an option) | This will only get you so far, but depending on how your name space is setup, they may be able to manipulate where those autodiscover queries are resolved to internally. 2) Custom Auto Discover sites (Such a better solution) | So in their Exchange 2007 environments they should setup custom autodiscover sites (like https://deptforest.uconn.edu/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml) and then set that to be the internal address on their client access servers. Following successful setup, Outlook should look there instead of to your central server. They can do this for the outside address as well, but the auto-setup feature will never work for them because the default address is built into the client (OL 2007 and EAS), but that is not really a huge deal. Doing #2 should be fairly easy new-autodiscovervirtualdirectory and then set the addresses with set-clientaccessserver. FYI, I have never done this, so if you try it and it works, let me know. (I am currently applying for an EDU job now that has a similar de-centralized campus Exchange). Thanks troy -Original Message- From: Boggis, Josh [mailto:josh.bog...@uconn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments That is the case, however, outlook 2007 periodically hits autodiscover.uconn.edu on ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½ÿÿ½s own. From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments Josh- Without knowing a
Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
You may want to try your question over at windows-hied (apologies if you already have...I left that list when I changed jobs). There are some large shops like UT (Texas) that may have needed to address this. --James On 3/12/09, Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu wrote: We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they aren't very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
Thanks. I also should have given the information that the other department is running Exchange 2003, not 2007 like we are. So we have no place to point autodiscover for their users to. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:jam...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments You may want to try your question over at windows-hied (apologies if you already have...I left that list when I changed jobs). There are some large shops like UT (Texas) that may have needed to address this. --James On 3/12/09, Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu wrote: We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they aren't very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Forwarded Outlook Appt.
We have two users (that we know of) with an unusual problem. When they open an existing Appointment in Outlook, and choose Forward from the Actions menu, they get a date from 2004. Creating a new test appt. this morning and forwarding it gave them the same results. We've tested doing the same thing with users in our department and we don't have the problem. I opened one of the user's mailboxes with my account and I got the same results that she did, with the date from 2004. But when I open my mailbox everything works correctly. That seems to suggest this is some kind of Exchange Mailbox issue. Oh, and yes, we checked the Clocks on the PC's and the servers. :) Users are running XP SP2, Outlook 2003 SP2 Exchange is 2007 SP1, CCR with 7 SG's, 2 Hub Transports. This sure sounds familiar...but so far we haven't been able to find anything doing searches on the web... Example: From: Sender, Name Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:11 PM To: Recipient, Name Subject: Test When:Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:00 PM-4:00 PM (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US Canada). Where: ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments
In that case, it sounds like one or both Exchange orgs need to customize the Office/Outlook installation for some automatic profile creation... --James On 3/12/09, Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu wrote: Thanks. I also should have given the information that the other department is running Exchange 2003, not 2007 like we are. So we have no place to point autodiscover for their users to. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:jam...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Autodiscover service and multiple exchange environments You may want to try your question over at windows-hied (apologies if you already have...I left that list when I changed jobs). There are some large shops like UT (Texas) that may have needed to address this. --James On 3/12/09, Boggis, Josh josh.bog...@uconn.edu wrote: We have recently deployed Exchange 2007 and setup the autodiscover service. Works great for all of our users. Unfortunately while we are the central IT department for the University, we are not the only area running Exchange. There are several smaller departments that run their own AD Forests / Exchange environments, but their reply address is the same as the one we use. As such their Outlook 2007 clients hit our autodiscover service and they aren't very happy with that. Anyone know how to either turn it off on Outlook, or some method to make their clients happy? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sent from my mobile device ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: A very odd problem...
I think the Exchange patch levels are the same on both boxes - Help/About on EMS for both machines says 6.5.7638.1 - but is there something else I should check? I could try doing the Exchange backup first, then appending the local backup to that. Kurt On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 05:22, Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote: There were early issues with vss causing backups to fail - most of the time but not all - if you backed up the systemstate at the same time as Exchange. I thought all of those were fixed by sp2 tho...You might try splitting them up. Have you patched the backup server, specifically have you patched the Exchange tools to match the Exchange server? What's going on in the logs and in the backup log? Only that single failure message? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: A very odd problem... Anyone? Bueller? After lots of fiddling, still no success. Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even regenerated the .bks file. Kurt On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: All, In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an E2k3 server - all are SP2 R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange server. The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server. However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working . I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange server, but it was failing with this error message: The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted. The operation was ended. I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file, whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server. I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I got this time is different, but still a failure: The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted. I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS, and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances. Any help much appreciated. Thanks, Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Forwarded Outlook Appt.
Outlook 2003 SP2, really? That may be the issue. Download the latest service pack for Outlook. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Brown, Larry larry.br...@dplinc.comwrote: We have two users (that we know of) with an unusual problem. When they open an existing Appointment in Outlook, and choose Forward from the Actions menu, they get a date from 2004. Creating a new test appt. this morning and forwarding it gave them the same results. We’ve tested doing the same thing with users in our department and we don’t have the problem. I opened one of the user’s mailboxes with my account and I got the same results that she did, with the date from 2004. But when I open my mailbox everything works correctly. That seems to suggest this is some kind of Exchange Mailbox issue. Oh, and yes, we checked the Clocks on the PC’s and the servers. J Users are running XP SP2, Outlook 2003 SP2 Exchange is 2007 SP1, CCR with 7 SG’s, 2 Hub Transports. This sure sounds familiar…but so far we haven’t been able to find anything doing searches on the web… Example: *From: *Sender, Name *Sent: *Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:11 PM *To: *Recipient, Name *Subject: *Test *When:*Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:00 PM-4:00 PM (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US Canada).** *Where: * ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Forwarded Outlook Appt.
Everything concerned (servers, exch, client os, outlook, mailbox including BBs and any other PDAs that sync) patched for DST2007? - we are within that window between new and old DST start. From: Brown, Larry [mailto:larry.br...@dplinc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Forwarded Outlook Appt. We have two users (that we know of) with an unusual problem. When they open an existing Appointment in Outlook, and choose Forward from the Actions menu, they get a date from 2004. Creating a new test appt. this morning and forwarding it gave them the same results. We've tested doing the same thing with users in our department and we don't have the problem. I opened one of the user's mailboxes with my account and I got the same results that she did, with the date from 2004. But when I open my mailbox everything works correctly. That seems to suggest this is some kind of Exchange Mailbox issue. Oh, and yes, we checked the Clocks on the PC's and the servers. :-) Users are running XP SP2, Outlook 2003 SP2 Exchange is 2007 SP1, CCR with 7 SG's, 2 Hub Transports. This sure sounds familiar...but so far we haven't been able to find anything doing searches on the web... Example: From: Sender, Name Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:11 PM To: Recipient, Name Subject: Test When:Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:00 PM-4:00 PM (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US Canada). Where: ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: SCR Zero Dataloss
Add in -server servername So make it get-storagegroupcopystatus -server servername -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss I ran the last one on the source server. I've tried it locally on both the source and target servers with the same results. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss Which machine are you running this on? From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss Same result: [PS] C:\get-storagegroupcopystatus -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 Get-StorageGroupCopyStatus : Microsoft Exchange Replication service RPC failed : Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.RpcException: Error e0434f4d from cli_GetCopyStatusEx at Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.Cluster.ReplayRpcClient.GetCopyStatusEx(Guid[] sgG uids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuses) at Microsoft.Exchange.Cluster.Replay.ReplayRpcClientWrapper.InternalGetCopyS tatus(String serverName, Guid[] sgGuids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuse s, Int32 serverVersion) At line:1 char:27 + get-storagegroupcopystatus -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 [PS] C:\ Command was run locally on the source server. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss Lose the first parameter: Get-StoragegroupCopyStatus -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss I'm trying to get SCR working right now, and it seems to be replicating, but I get the following error if I try to check the storage group copy status: [PS] C:\get-storagegroupcopystatus 006mail-ve1\first storage group -standbyma chine sdcmail-ve1 Get-StorageGroupCopyStatus : Microsoft Exchange Replication service RPC failed : Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.RpcException: Error e0434f4d from cli_GetCopyStatusEx at Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.Cluster.ReplayRpcClient.GetCopyStatusEx(Guid[] sgG uids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuses) at Microsoft.Exchange.Cluster.Replay.ReplayRpcClientWrapper.InternalGetCopyS tatus(String serverName, Guid[] sgGuids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuse s, Int32 serverVersion) At line:1 char:27 + get-storagegroupcopystatus 006mail-ve1\first storage group -standbyma chine sdcmail-ve1 The event logs on the target server say it's happily replicating log files. Am I not using the right command to check the status? 006mail-ve1 is the source, and sdcmail-ve1.is the target. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss So, let's think about this You can set the replaytimeout and the truncationlagtimeout to zero, but the log shipping of SCR is inherently bursty and generally only starts if you have 50 logs queued. However, after the first 50 are copied, the rest get copied in real time, but not applied in real time. There is always a 50 log file delay. You cannot back up an SCR target copy. You must back up the SCR source copy. The target copy uses circular logging, more or less. When you activate the SCR copy, it attempts to copy any log files that have not yet been copied (i.e., that were queued for copy). SoI'm not sure what you mean by zero data loss. From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: SCR Zero Dataloss Hi there, I am in the midst of deploying SCR. My environment 2 DC, 1 stand alone Mailbox server on Windows 2003 x64 and 1 Edge server on Windows 2003 x64. How do I configure the SCR target for 0 data loss? What are the drawbacks when I opt for 0 data loss? What are the backup options I have? Right now I have NTBackup dump the database locally to the disk with log truncation and backup using Symantec 12 to tape. Appreciate a your inputs and suggestion Regards Liby Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If
RE: A very odd problem...
I must say that the subject line of this post greatly concerned me at first glance. I immediately assumed (for obvious reasons) that this meant that Shook's long planned upgrade to ShookieMonster 2.0 had gone terribly wrong. WhewThe relief. TVK -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: A very odd problem... I think the Exchange patch levels are the same on both boxes - Help/About on EMS for both machines says 6.5.7638.1 - but is there something else I should check? I could try doing the Exchange backup first, then appending the local backup to that. Kurt On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 05:22, Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote: There were early issues with vss causing backups to fail - most of the time but not all - if you backed up the systemstate at the same time as Exchange. I thought all of those were fixed by sp2 tho...You might try splitting them up. Have you patched the backup server, specifically have you patched the Exchange tools to match the Exchange server? What's going on in the logs and in the backup log? Only that single failure message? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: A very odd problem... Anyone? Bueller? After lots of fiddling, still no success. Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even regenerated the .bks file. Kurt On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: All, In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an E2k3 server - all are SP2���R2. There is no AV running on the Exchange server. The file server has an external LTO3 tape drive attached to it, and for about a year it was working just fine pulling backups from the Exchange server - I installed the ESM on it for just this purpose. The DC is doing a system state backup to a share the file server. However, the NTBackup batch job that I'm running to pull the Exchange backup to the file server's tape drive has recently stopped working . I was able to get it going again last month by rebooting the Exchange server, but it was failing with this error message: �� �� �� �� ��The requested media failed to mount. The operation was aborted. ���The operation was ended. I am able to pull a backup by manually starting the wizard as the same user that the scheduled batch file was using and specifying the Exchange server's storage group. But when running as a batch file, whether launching the batch file manually or as a scheduled task, it fails to pull the backup of the Exchange server. The batch file backs up the entire file server first, then goes to the Exchange server. I just tried launching the batch file again, and the error message I got this time is different, but still a failure: �� The network disk drive has stopped responding. Backup set aborted. I'm not finding anything on google, either - most were regarding SBS, and pre-SP1 at that, and the rest don't seem to fit my circumstances. Any help much appreciated. Thanks, Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~�� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: SCR Zero Dataloss
[PS] C:\get-storagegroupcopystatus -server 006mail-ve1 -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 Get-StorageGroupCopyStatus : Microsoft Exchange Replication service RPC failed : Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.RpcException: Error e0434f4d from cli_GetCopyStatusEx at Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.Cluster.ReplayRpcClient.GetCopyStatusEx(Guid[] sgG uids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuses) at Microsoft.Exchange.Cluster.Replay.ReplayRpcClientWrapper.InternalGetCopyS tatus(String serverName, Guid[] sgGuids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuse s, Int32 serverVersion) At line:1 char:27 + get-storagegroupcopystatus -server 006mail-ve1 -standbymachine sdcmail- ve1 [PS] C:\ From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss Add in -server servername So make it get-storagegroupcopystatus -server servername -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 ~Kevinm WLKMMAS My life http://www.hedonists.cahttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss I ran the last one on the source server. I've tried it locally on both the source and target servers with the same results. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss Which machine are you running this on? From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss Same result: [PS] C:\get-storagegroupcopystatus -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 Get-StorageGroupCopyStatus : Microsoft Exchange Replication service RPC failed : Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.RpcException: Error e0434f4d from cli_GetCopyStatusEx at Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.Cluster.ReplayRpcClient.GetCopyStatusEx(Guid[] sgG uids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuses) at Microsoft.Exchange.Cluster.Replay.ReplayRpcClientWrapper.InternalGetCopyS tatus(String serverName, Guid[] sgGuids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuse s, Int32 serverVersion) At line:1 char:27 + get-storagegroupcopystatus -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 [PS] C:\ Command was run locally on the source server. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss Lose the first parameter: Get-StoragegroupCopyStatus -standbymachine sdcmail-ve1 From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss I'm trying to get SCR working right now, and it seems to be replicating, but I get the following error if I try to check the storage group copy status: [PS] C:\get-storagegroupcopystatus 006mail-ve1\first storage group -standbyma chine sdcmail-ve1 Get-StorageGroupCopyStatus : Microsoft Exchange Replication service RPC failed : Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.RpcException: Error e0434f4d from cli_GetCopyStatusEx at Microsoft.Exchange.Rpc.Cluster.ReplayRpcClient.GetCopyStatusEx(Guid[] sgG uids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuses) at Microsoft.Exchange.Cluster.Replay.ReplayRpcClientWrapper.InternalGetCopyS tatus(String serverName, Guid[] sgGuids, RpcStorageGroupCopyStatus[] sgStatuse s, Int32 serverVersion) At line:1 char:27 + get-storagegroupcopystatus 006mail-ve1\first storage group -standbyma chine sdcmail-ve1 The event logs on the target server say it's happily replicating log files. Am I not using the right command to check the status? 006mail-ve1 is the source, and sdcmail-ve1.is the target. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCR Zero Dataloss So, let's think about this You can set the replaytimeout and the truncationlagtimeout to zero, but the log shipping of SCR is inherently bursty and generally only starts if you have 50 logs queued. However, after the first 50 are copied, the rest get copied in real time, but not applied in real time. There is always a 50 log file delay. You cannot back up an SCR target copy. You must back up the SCR source copy. The target copy uses circular logging, more or less. When you activate the SCR copy, it attempts to copy any log files that have not yet been copied (i.e., that were queued for copy). SoI'm not sure what you mean by zero data loss. From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: SCR Zero Dataloss Hi there, I am in the midst of deploying SCR. My environment 2 DC, 1 stand alone Mailbox server on Windows
RE: Forwarded Outlook Appt.
Unfortunately that's not up to me... But if that was the problem why wouldn't everyone on the domain have the problem? Oh well...we're supposed to be upgrading to Office 2007 later this year... From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forwarded Outlook Appt. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Filtering Spam
Hi Daniel, Just some additional points to keep in mind. Ninja is tightly integrated with Exchange. That does have a few advantages, first of all you are able to create a spam mailbox right in Outlook and all spam gets filtered right in that box with the major advantage your users do not have to go somewhere else (web-interface) to check on quarantined email. Second, they can create their own allow- and blocklists, so determine what should go through. All this was done to keep your admin time to a minimum - actually half compared to other product. And that is worth something. See this white paper by Osterman that explains the benefits: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/documents/ninja-email-security-comparing- email-management-systems-that-protect-against-spam-viruses-malware-phish ing-attacks.pdf TinyUrl: http://tinyurl.com/dj5d5r Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Filtering Spam Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into Untangled and Ninja, as they seem to be the general vibe of everyone. If either of those don't wont, im going to have to bite the bullet and put a linux box in and set up mail scanner and such. I may be the linux activist at the office here, but the extra work is just a pain in the ass. Daniel -Original Message- From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Filtering Spam Hey, I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in conjuction with our exchange server to filter out spam. We did have mailwasher but due to the opensource version being crap and the enterprise version costing as much as putting an entire detriot high school through college, I'm looking for another free/open-source spam product that actually works. Ideas? Daniel ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ .. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server
12000 mailboxes, 14 DB all around 100gb each currently running E2K3 2 x FE 3 xBE - 70% of clients connect via OWA NetApps storage tier1 allocated to Exchange Storage and Servers located in DataCentre - with second storage unit located on-site -opportunity to CCR passive node and DB's - have had 2 instances of loss of connectivity to data centre due to connection failure which results in loss of email. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server How many mailboxes? What's the storage backend? How big are the stores? What's the front-end look like? -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I have 2 x HP BL680 G5 E7450 2P 8G Servers to use as either - Clustered mailbox server using CCR or configure as ESX virtual hosts to support virtual mail box server/s Looking for a recommendation on which way to go... thanks in advance Brian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server
Virtualized Scenario : In a failover situation, you would be hosting all 12000 users on 2 virtual servers running on 1 physical host. If utilizing CCR, that would assume you are running the two CCR passive nodes on the remaining physical server as well. There is a lot more information to consider when sizing MBX servers, however my initial calculations says you are going to be over utilized. In a virtual environment, consider N+1 when planning capacity. Chuck Robinson ___ Solutions Architect MCSE: Messaging EMC Consulting Phone: 732-321-3644 | Mobile: 973-865-0394 chuck.robin...@emc.com www.emc.com/consulting Transforming Information Into Business Results -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server 12000 mailboxes, 14 DB all around 100gb each currently running E2K3 2 x FE 3 xBE - 70% of clients connect via OWA NetApps storage tier1 allocated to Exchange Storage and Servers located in DataCentre - with second storage unit located on-site -opportunity to CCR passive node and DB's - have had 2 instances of loss of connectivity to data centre due to connection failure which results in loss of email. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server How many mailboxes? What's the storage backend? How big are the stores? What's the front-end look like? -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server I have 2 x HP BL680 G5 E7450 2P 8G Servers to use as either - Clustered mailbox server using CCR or configure as ESX virtual hosts to support virtual mail box server/s Looking for a recommendation on which way to go... thanks in advance Brian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Exchange 2007 and VMWare
Howdy Mike...I've been hiding in documentation hell for the past month or so... Most Exchange, SAN, Virtualization administrators I talk to (2-3 meetings a week these days) are usually concerned with IO in a VM. While this was a valid concern a few years back, when it comes down to numbers we see very little impact as a result of virtualizing. If you do a quick search you can find papers by HP, Dell, EMC and others that have compared physical IO to virtual. Of course the best advice is to test in your own environment...I was skeptical, and not to mention a little scared at one time. I had to test for myself to get past that and I encourage anyone looking to go down this road to do the same...or engage your storage vendor to do it for you. If they want your business they'll usually do much of the heavy lifting. -alex On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote: HI Alex. Long time no hear from you! IOPS delivered is always a concern. Depending on the I/O delivery mechanism, virtualization may impact it. Or it may not. J *From:* Alex Fontana [mailto:afontana...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:30 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Exchange 2007 and VMWare Interesting statement... Depending on the I/O availability from the disk solution would be a matter of concern in a virtual and physical deployment, not just in the virtual. In all tests that I've performed I/O has not been a concern for going physical over virtual. IMO the only concern for virtualizing (on VMware at least) would be for deployments where it is desired to exceed the 4 CPU limitation of the virtual machine or Windows 2008 fail-over clusters are desired. -alex ps/ maybe i'm bias...;-) On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote: You can either use VMware's HA or Exchange's HA - but not both. Note that that is the Microsoft support position and not VMware's. Exchange 2007 works just fine in a virtualized environment. I've got a number of deployments out there. Depending on I/O requirements and I/O availability from your disk solution, you might consider putting the mailbox role on physical hardware and everything else on virtual. -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john_bow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and VMWare All- I've been tasked to research E2K7 and VMWare. I know VMWare say's they support this type of installation.. but what I'm looking for is people that actually have this type of setup in their environment or have set this up in someone's environment. Has anyone had success with this design scenario? Were there any gotcha's? How does well does it work with HA? TIA, _ John Bowles ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
POP Connectors Odd Problem
Alright guys, You seem to be exchange pro's, I'm having quite an odd problem with Windows SBS 2003 and Exchange 2003's POP connectors. I seem to fix one error and two more pop up, I seem to fix those two and two more pop up. The set up is: We have our domain hosted with a hosting company, we have all our email addresses hosted on their mail servers and we download the mail from their servers via POP3 to our SBS server, our SBS server then distributes the mail to the correct accounts and its done that way, because we dont have a fixed IP at the office location. I'm having problems with Exchange (Im guessing, Im not to sure at this point), intermittantly dropping mail. Like I will get notes from users saying A client tried to send me an email, but it still hasn't come through yet and the client has obviously sent the email. But, its not ALL the mail, just 2 or 3 emails get lost out of a couple of hundred daily. I am getting a lot of error 1023 and 1036's in the application log, part of the event log. Saying things like: An error occurred during a POP3 transaction to server mail.example.com.au [ michael.l...@example.com.au]. The error is 58 (The specified server cannot perform the requested operation. Or The downloading process for mailbox michael.l...@example.com.au [ mail.example.com.au] was ended with one or more errors. I have got a couple of NDR's but most of the clients whose mail fails to reach us, dont seem to get NDRs. Here is one of the NDRs: Diagnostic information for administrators: Generating server: example.com.au mspop3connector.micha...@example.com.au # #5.1.1 #SMTP# Original message headers: Received: from mail pickup service by example.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:28 +1100 Return-Path: fio...@othercompany.com.au Envelope-to: micha...@example.com.au CC: BCC: Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:58:23 +1000 X-TPG-Junk-Status: Message not scanned From: fio...@othercompany.com.au Message-ID: server01pfvjcr0...@example.com.au X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2009 05:00:28.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[2165DA90:01C9A13D] Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:28 +1100 KeywordsX-TPG-Antivirus: Passed From: Fiona Andersen fio...@othercompany.com.au To: IMB Recipient 1 mspop3connector.micha...@example.com.au Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:27 +1100 Message-ID: fced7d5ed05e4bd8b5f40157a8c1e...@example.local Subject: Operations Meeting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thread-Topic: Operations Meeting Thread-Index: AcmhPLj1lbzWjIOCSxqOX3GSK2yVqg== Accept-Language: en-US, en-AU X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-AU Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_1FEC67542514E949BB14A00F52A816A6076D5ABD10SWPDCStormwpl_ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-ID: 1Lgu2k-00089E-P6 X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam,SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.598, required 5,autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-From: fio...@othercompany.com.au X-Spam-Status: No Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.237 [270.11.9/1992] Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 I have tried resolving this issue for the past 2 - 3 days. I have tried to use imbreg.exe (as was stated in a few kb's regarding these errors), i have tried to update the server and have added Hotfix KB 835 734 , but I cant seem to get this up and going correctly... Any ideas? Daniel ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server
This is a pretty big generalization...but for an Exchange environment with a small(er) number of high-powered mailbox servers, however you want to divide up your resources - CPU, RAM, disk I/O -- you get the same product on physical or virtual. If you aren't going to scale up to a dozen or more less-powerful mailbox servers, then virtualization may not help you; in fact, the TCO for Exchange will be HIGHER when virtualized. The VMWare or even Hyper-V layer has administrative costs and can introduce additional complexity over sitting on physical servers. But virtualization will probably always make sense for other roles, especially if it's already a strategy for your datacenter. On 3/12/09, Brian Dwyer bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au wrote: Apologies for not thinking before posting. Our organisation is in the process of moving everything to a Virtual environment. Exceptions will be made if necessary but must be justified. NetApps storage is being implemented with blade servers to host virrtual servers at the data centre, with a secnod NetApps storage and blades on-site. Data, VM images/snapshots etc will be replicated from the data centre and backed up here. All servers are currently located in a data centre - we have lost connectivity twice in the last 6 months (cut cables) Main Issue- All exisitng Exchange hardware is up for replacement. We need to- 1. implement an email archiving solution. 2 . upgrade to Exchange 2007 as our 2003 service is reaching capacity. Exchange 2003 services consists of - 2 x FE and 3 X BE mailbox servers with direct attached storage. 1.4 TB of mail in 14 databases. 12,000 users, in 133 locations. 70% use OWA only. Original design was for and E2K7 services on physical servers 2 x Client Access/Hub Transport Servers A single clusted mailbox server with CCR live node and databases in the data centre passive node and database replicas on-site Management would now like the designed reviews for virtualisation The physical servers allocated for the Clustered mailbox server are 32GB DL360 G5's with 4 x quad caore processors. These may be replaced with BL680c GS E7450 2P 8G Svr with 64GB ram and 6 x quad core processors. My preference is for - 2 x VIRTUAL CAS/HUB servers running on existing virtual hosts (1in data cente one on-site) WFS installed on CAS/Hub onsite server. 1 x Clustered Mailbox Serverwith CCR running on the physical BL680c's. Live node in the Data Centre Blade Shelf, Passive Node in the onsite Blade shelf. Live databases on tier 1 storage in the Data Centre Passive databases on tier 2 (or3) storage on site. My reasoning is - Exchange will be on a physical server. The high specs of the BL680c are required as the design has a single back-end server. Exchange 2007 and Server 2008 which will be running on the blade is fully 64-bit compliant and can make use of the RAM and processors much. Licencing costs will be reduced. CCR will provide automatic failover in event of a failure of data centre or nectwork connectivity. Cheers Brian -Original Message- From: Robinson, Chuck [mailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com] Sent: Friday, 13 March 2009 7:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server Virtualized Scenario : In a failover situation, you would be hosting all 12000 users on 2 virtual servers running on 1 physical host. If utilizing CCR, that would assume you are running the two CCR passive nodes on the remaining physical server as well. There is a lot more information to consider when sizing MBX servers, however my initial calculations says you are going to be over utilized. In a virtual environment, consider N+1 when planning capacity. Chuck Robinson ___ Solutions Architect MCSE: Messaging EMC Consulting Phone: 732-321-3644 | Mobile: 973-865-0394 chuck.robin...@emc.com www.emc.com/consulting Transforming Information Into Business Results -Original Message- From: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server 12000 mailboxes, 14 DB all around 100gb each currently running E2K3 2 x FE 3 xBE - 70% of clients connect via OWA NetApps storage tier1 allocated to Exchange Storage and Servers located in DataCentre - with second storage unit located on-site -opportunity to CCR passive node and DB's - have had 2 instances of loss of connectivity to data centre due to connection failure which results in loss of email. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server How many mailboxes? What's the storage backend? How big are the stores? What's the front-end look like? -Original Message- From:
