Re: URGENT: You do not have permission to send to this recipient smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for
The server generating our NDRs is either one of the three Front-End looking at message tracking the NDRs is sent just after the categorizer process emails. I have enabled SMTP logging and received the following error: Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeTransport Event Category: SMTP Protocol Event ID: 7010 Date: 6/7/2011 Time: 8:45:15 AM User: N/A Computer: B1 Description: This is an SMTP protocol log for virtual server ID 1, connection #3583. The client at 150.7.5.65 sent a xexch50 command, and the SMTP server responded with 504 Need to authenticate first . The full command sent was xexch50 1020 2. This will probably cause the connection to fail. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. In ESM Access Control is configured to accept Anonymous Access for authentication on the SMTP Virtual Server (Resolve anonymous email is checked too) plus Integrated Authentication. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com wrote: From the NDR you gets back obviously there’s a server that is generating the NDR. Is it your server issuing the SMTP unable to relay response or is it an external server that is causing your server to generate the NDR? Message tracking / protocol logging can help you track down what IP address is issuing the SMTP response and why. *From:* Al Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 06 June 2011 10:34 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* URGENT: You do not have permission to send to this recipient smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for Hi, Exchange 2003 SP2, clients Outlook 2003 All of a sudden all emails in our ORG generate NDRs: You do not have permission to send to this recipient smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for u...@acme.com Havent touched config in Exchange, but tried to restart SMTP service on all front end servers and do the following fix: select your virtual smtp server and right click then options. if you have 2 virtual servers choose the one that connects to the outside. go to access tab and click on relay. choose only that list make sure you untick the autorize relay to autenticated computers check box. click on the users button and check both check boxes for authenticated users. Any ideas? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Free/Busy Info Issues
Thanks Michael, done that (had to do it via the 2003 ESM as the 2010 one doesn't appear to let you specify replication priority on a per-folder basis?). So I'll wait it out and see what happens - yesterday it seems changes did make it through, they just took quite a while. Do you know if there is anything unique about the Administrator account that gets mail enabled when Exchange 2010 is installed? I ask as I went into it via OWA and created an appointment yesterday, yet this morning it still just shows hatched bars if I try and arrange a meeting. What I'm never quite clear on is how much of the free/busy info that's shown is dependant on the client going into Outlook every so often? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 06 June 2011 22:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Free/Busy Info Issues Bump your PF replication interval and priority. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Free/Busy Info Issues I have an existing Exchange 2003 server, and we've just introduced our first 2010 server (combined HT/CAS/MBX). A test user on the 2010 box can schedule a meeting and see free/busy info for a user on either the 2010 box or the 2003 server. A user on the 2003 server can see some free/busy info for a user on the 2010 box but there seems to be a lot of lag i.e. an appointment I put in as a 2010 user half an hour back still hasn't shown up when scheduling a meeting as a user on the 2003 box. I've ensured that both the 2003 and 2010 servers are on the replica list for the 2003 Administrative Group and the newly created 2010 Administrative Group. Not sure whether I'm actually having issues or just a lack of understanding/patience - more of the latter I suspect. Most of the migration guides seem to focus on replicating free/busy from the 2003 server to the 2010 server, few seem to mention what happens the other way around for users on 2003 to see the free/busy status of users on 2010. Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Exchange 2010 and Adobe PDF iFilter?
I'd read similar about the Foxit filter, and equally a few bad things about the Adobe filter from Paul Robichaux (can't argue with a guy who literally wrote one of my books). The guides I'd seen though all say you have to register the filter and run scripts and reboot the server and restart services and stuff - you're saying just run the installer? Thanks, Paul From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 06 June 2011 22:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 and Adobe PDF iFilter? You install it. You are done. Just FYI, I wrote this as a private email to a client in April: The Foxit filter isn't free - but it's multithreaded and can keep up with higher workloads. It's also supported. The Adobe filter is free - but it's single threaded and beta. I recommend the Foxit filter. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 and Adobe PDF iFilter? So it seems like a good idea to add PDF indexing to our Exchange 2010 server as well as the default of Office Documents as many quotes and incoming attachments are in PDF format these days. There doesn't seem to be an official guide to installing and configuring the PDF iFilter, and I'm a little wary of following random guides off the internet. Can anyone suggest a known good set of instructions please? We're running Exchange 2010 SP1 RU 3v3. Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: URGENT: You do not have permission to send to this recipient smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for
Turned out to be a smarthost issue. We use a DNS name as smart host, the DNS record points to four servers. Only one of the three is working correctly so we pointed to the ip address as a temp fix. Thanks everyone for feedback and support, much appreciated. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Al Rose arose...@gmail.com wrote: The server generating our NDRs is either one of the three Front-End looking at message tracking the NDRs is sent just after the categorizer process emails. I have enabled SMTP logging and received the following error: Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeTransport Event Category: SMTP Protocol Event ID: 7010 Date: 6/7/2011 Time: 8:45:15 AM User: N/A Computer: B1 Description: This is an SMTP protocol log for virtual server ID 1, connection #3583. The client at 150.7.5.65 sent a xexch50 command, and the SMTP server responded with 504 Need to authenticate first . The full command sent was xexch50 1020 2. This will probably cause the connection to fail. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. In ESM Access Control is configured to accept Anonymous Access for authentication on the SMTP Virtual Server (Resolve anonymous email is checked too) plus Integrated Authentication. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.comwrote: From the NDR you gets back obviously there’s a server that is generating the NDR. Is it your server issuing the SMTP unable to relay response or is it an external server that is causing your server to generate the NDR? Message tracking / protocol logging can help you track down what IP address is issuing the SMTP response and why. *From:* Al Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 06 June 2011 10:34 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* URGENT: You do not have permission to send to this recipient smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for Hi, Exchange 2003 SP2, clients Outlook 2003 All of a sudden all emails in our ORG generate NDRs: You do not have permission to send to this recipient smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for u...@acme.com Havent touched config in Exchange, but tried to restart SMTP service on all front end servers and do the following fix: select your virtual smtp server and right click then options. if you have 2 virtual servers choose the one that connects to the outside. go to access tab and click on relay. choose only that list make sure you untick the autorize relay to autenticated computers check box. click on the users button and check both check boxes for authenticated users. Any ideas? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Email Archiving Solutions
All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office: Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Not heard of those two, but having used both Symantec Enterprise Vault and EMC EmailXtender/Sourceone I'm firmly of the belief that all archiving solutions have their faults! Archiving is great for some things, mainly keeping all emails ever safe from deletion, and for compliance, etc. It's terrible at space saving, I've now worked at 2 places who implemented archiving to save space on exchange and in both cases it has been a nightmare! It increases backups, adds complexity and degrades end user experience. Am I jaded, probably, but I deal with the fallout every day! If space is the only issue buy a bigger exchange server, or even better buy another. PST ingestion is a good thing, but in order to access that mail though outlook/OWA you will need stub messages for all those messages in exchange. You will need to seriously consider the impact of this on performance and space, this is often overlooked. Nick Turner From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC250A.43695920] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This electronic message contains information from CACI International Inc or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately at postmas...@caci.co.uk Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. CACI Limited. Registered in England Wales. Registration No. 1649776. CACI House, Avonmore Road, London, W14 8TS. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Exchange 2010 and Adobe PDF iFilter?
The script requirement you are talking about was for the office ifilters and that was corrected with the office filter pack 2.0. The installer does the registration. I don't know that a reboot was ever necessary. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 3:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 and Adobe PDF iFilter? I'd read similar about the Foxit filter, and equally a few bad things about the Adobe filter from Paul Robichaux (can't argue with a guy who literally wrote one of my books). The guides I'd seen though all say you have to register the filter and run scripts and reboot the server and restart services and stuff - you're saying just run the installer? Thanks, Paul From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 06 June 2011 22:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2010 and Adobe PDF iFilter? You install it. You are done. Just FYI, I wrote this as a private email to a client in April: The Foxit filter isn't free - but it's multithreaded and can keep up with higher workloads. It's also supported. The Adobe filter is free - but it's single threaded and beta. I recommend the Foxit filter. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2010 and Adobe PDF iFilter? So it seems like a good idea to add PDF indexing to our Exchange 2010 server as well as the default of Office Documents as many quotes and incoming attachments are in PDF format these days. There doesn't seem to be an official guide to installing and configuring the PDF iFilter, and I'm a little wary of following random guides off the internet. Can anyone suggest a known good set of instructions please? We're running Exchange 2010 SP1 RU 3v3. Thanks, Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Simon I have considered the Exchange 2010 Archiving solution but unless I have misunderstood, if I create a new database for the Archived Email it still needs to be on my exchange server. I cannot map a drive to another server with slower / cheaper disks. Or I need to install another copy of Exchange on the slower server that will host the Archive database. Also the Exchange 2010 archiving will not allow people to view archived email whilst not attached to the internet. (Or so I understand) We have a lot of staff that work away from the office and travel a lot and they have requested that they would like to see archived email whilst not connected to the internet. (Like they can with their wonderful PST files). If possible I would also like to be able to Archive Public Folders which the Exchange 2010 Archiver cannot do at the moment. If you can correct my understanding of any of the above then I would look at the Exchange 2010 Archive tool because it is very easy to implement. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Kevan, I wouldn't let the costs of a new server / license worry you - you'll be paying through the nose for a third-party archiving solution anyway :) but yes, the Exchange archive lives on an Exchange database, but it doesn't have to be the same database or server as your primary mailbox (so long as you're running SP1). Richard From: bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Kevan Dickinson Sent: 07 June 2011 14:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Simon I have considered the Exchange 2010 Archiving solution but unless I have misunderstood, if I create a new database for the Archived Email it still needs to be on my exchange server. I cannot map a drive to another server with slower / cheaper disks. Or I need to install another copy of Exchange on the slower server that will host the Archive database. Also the Exchange 2010 archiving will not allow people to view archived email whilst not attached to the internet. (Or so I understand) We have a lot of staff that work away from the office and travel a lot and they have requested that they would like to see archived email whilst not connected to the internet. (Like they can with their wonderful PST files). If possible I would also like to be able to Archive Public Folders which the Exchange 2010 Archiver cannot do at the moment. If you can correct my understanding of any of the above then I would look at the Exchange 2010 Archive tool because it is very easy to implement. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus.
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
I should say network access, not Internet. Sorry about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Heh. Touché :) Actually, Symantec Enterprise Vault has a Vault Cache / Offline Vault (sheesh, I can never remember that, it changed from one to the other in v89) that lets you cache archived information locally for offline access. Richard From: bounce-9350340-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350340-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: 07 June 2011 14:38 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Both the products I mentioned are supposed to have archived email available off line with their archive client installed. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 14:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions I should say network access, not Internet. Sorry about that. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions No. Are third-party archiving solutions available if you don't have Internet access? ;-) Probably not... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To
RE: Free/Busy Info Issues
Certain administrative functions in Exchange require the account that executes them to be mailbox-enabled because they are now executed as a web-service (part of the Exchange Control Panel). ECP, like OWA, requires an account to be mailbox enabled for a login to succeed. I don't particularly agree with that requirement, but I understand it, and it's considered by design. So, when you install Exchange, the account used to install Exchange is assumed to be the master Exchange admin account and if it doesn't already have a mailbox, it gets mailbox enabled. Also as a part of that installation it gets added to the Organization Management group. In Outlook you can configure how much information is maintained for free/busy; but actually going into Outlook is not required. That being said, for a mailbox to publish free/busy, the mailbox must've either received a piece of email or have been signed into by either Outlook or OWA. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 3:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Free/Busy Info Issues Thanks Michael, done that (had to do it via the 2003 ESM as the 2010 one doesn't appear to let you specify replication priority on a per-folder basis?). So I'll wait it out and see what happens - yesterday it seems changes did make it through, they just took quite a while. Do you know if there is anything unique about the Administrator account that gets mail enabled when Exchange 2010 is installed? I ask as I went into it via OWA and created an appointment yesterday, yet this morning it still just shows hatched bars if I try and arrange a meeting. What I'm never quite clear on is how much of the free/busy info that's shown is dependant on the client going into Outlook every so often? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 06 June 2011 22:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Free/Busy Info Issues Bump your PF replication interval and priority. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Free/Busy Info Issues I have an existing Exchange 2003 server, and we've just introduced our first 2010 server (combined HT/CAS/MBX). A test user on the 2010 box can schedule a meeting and see free/busy info for a user on either the 2010 box or the 2003 server. A user on the 2003 server can see some free/busy info for a user on the 2010 box but there seems to be a lot of lag i.e. an appointment I put in as a 2010 user half an hour back still hasn't shown up when scheduling a meeting as a user on the 2003 box. I've ensured that both the 2003 and 2010 servers are on the replica list for the 2003 Administrative Group and the newly created 2010 Administrative Group. Not sure whether I'm actually having issues or just a lack of understanding/patience - more of the latter I suspect. Most of the migration guides seem to focus on replicating free/busy from the 2003 server to the 2010 server, few seem to mention what happens the other way around for users on 2003 to see the free/busy status of users on 2010. Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
No they are not. Exchange 2010 Online Archive does not provide mobile access either. These may not be an issue in your environment, but this is why you should define your requirements prior to looking at products. Chuck Robinson ___ Sr. Solutions Architect MCITP:EA, Messaging / MCSE: Messaging EMC Consulting Mobile: 973-865-0394 chuck.robin...@emc.commailto:chuck.robin...@emc.com www.emc.com/consultinghttp://www.emc.com/consulting Transforming Information Into Business Results From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Are Exchange online archives accessible offline, if Cached Exchange Mode is implemented? From: bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350310-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [Description: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
I wonder if it would be possible to cache the archive as a second mailbox in outlook, won't help much with OWA, but apparently possible in outlook which i never knew http://communified.net/archive/2009/05/08/caching-shared-additional-mailboxes-in-outlook-2007.aspx Other things to consider with archiving are making sure that any outlook add-ins you might have are compatible. We've got major problems here caused by the SAGE CRM add-in clashing with the SourceOne add-in which adds up to a huge headache. Make sure your users aren't relying on anything that plugs into outlook! Having it thrust upon me now twice as an admin I can assure you that once implemented it will probably become the biggest headache and largest creator of work in your daily life! Nick Turner From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Kevan, I wouldn't let the costs of a new server / license worry you - you'll be paying through the nose for a third-party archiving solution anyway :) but yes, the Exchange archive lives on an Exchange database, but it doesn't have to be the same database or server as your primary mailbox (so long as you're running SP1). Richard From: bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9350322-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Kevan Dickinson Sent: 07 June 2011 14:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Simon I have considered the Exchange 2010 Archiving solution but unless I have misunderstood, if I create a new database for the Archived Email it still needs to be on my exchange server. I cannot map a drive to another server with slower / cheaper disks. Or I need to install another copy of Exchange on the slower server that will host the Archive database. Also the Exchange 2010 archiving will not allow people to view archived email whilst not attached to the internet. (Or so I understand) We have a lot of staff that work away from the office and travel a lot and they have requested that they would like to see archived email whilst not connected to the internet. (Like they can with their wonderful PST files). If possible I would also like to be able to Archive Public Folders which the Exchange 2010 Archiver cannot do at the moment. If you can correct my understanding of any of the above then I would look at the Exchange 2010 Archive tool because it is very easy to implement. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC251F.2970BD50] From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: 07 June 2011 13:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions You appeared to overlooked another product - and that is the native archiving feature of Exchange. Was there are reason why that was overlooked? Most third party archiving solutions require SQL server, so you should look at the licencing costs for that, compared to Enterprise CALs and perhaps an additional Exchange licence. You can use cheaper storage for the archive and it is all integrated. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://exchange.sembee.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 11:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email:
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
I've been running MessageSolution for a few years. I have one Exchange 2003 server with about 200 mailboxes. In the beginning, it was an almost complete disaster. The size of my mail store just about doubled by the time it was done with the initial archive operation, OWA became completely inaccessible every few days, and on Exchange store.exe started crashing on a regular basis. The MessageSolution software would sometimes just stop archiving. It was so bad that I asked for a refund, but they asked me to give them a chance to make everything right. They did eventually (a couple of months of troubleshooting) get it all working, although I never did regain the space in my database. It has been working OK for a couple of years now. One thing to note, I haven't had to use tech support over a year, so this may have changed, but their developers all seem to be based in China. For any issue that required their expertise, I had to give them remote access to my EEA server and they would work on in during what was for me the overnight hours. Some other issues - make them show you everything actually working - pst import, exporting archived messages to pst files, restoring messages, etc. Some of these things seem to work through the web interface, and others don't. Some functions, you have to use a separate utility instead of the web interface - I think searching for messages and then exporting the matching messages to pst was one of these. It works seamlessly (now) in OWA - users have no indication that they are viewing a stubbed message. In Outlook, in the preview pane, stubbed messages have a button to view the message but double clicking opens the original message as usual. The Outlook plugin often gets disabled and requires reenabling in Outlook. I see this also on other Outlook plugins, e.g. the Vipre plugin we use, so I don't know if this is a problem with the plugins, our environment, or just par for the course. One thing I do use all the time is the searching the archive - I'll search the archive even for recent messages since it often faster than scrolling through my inbox if I can't remember the sender and or subject You can't do a search from within OWA - for that you have to log into the EEA web interface. So for users on the road to search their archive you would have to make the EEA server available from the outside (VPN, port forwarding, etc.). So, bottom line, I am satisfied with the product now, since over the past couple of years it has worked acceptably well, but if I had to do it all over again I would choose a different solution. Ralph From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com http://www.nsf-cmi.com ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions
RE: Free/Busy Info Issues
On the 2010 side, I’d guess something is wrong (helpful, eh?). Try a couple of the test-* cmdlets, like test-outlookconnectivity and test-outlookwebservices and see what they have to say. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: phil levine [mailto:plevin...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 5:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Free/Busy Info Issues I have both 2003 and 2010 and just recently deployed PFs in 2010. We use both 2007 and 2010 versions of Outlook. This user cant see 2003 users or 2010 users. Both can see him whether they are in his site or another site. I have another user on the same MB server as this user and he can see both this user and other users. From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 5:29 PM Subject: RE: Free/Busy Info Issues What’s your topology? How have you deployed PFs and what versions of Outlook? I remember some things about Paul’s deployment because I’ve answered other questions – but I can’t remember anything about yours, sorry. ☹ Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: phil levine [mailto:plevin...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 5:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Free/Busy Info Issues Would you say the same thing for a user that I just put on a test 2010 box that is in a different site than most of the users he talks too? this user can't see anyone but everyone can see him. From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 5:16 PM Subject: RE: Free/Busy Info Issues Bump your PF replication interval and priority. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Free/Busy Info Issues I have an existing Exchange 2003 server, and we’ve just introduced our first 2010 server (combined HT/CAS/MBX). A test user on the 2010 box can schedule a meeting and see free/busy info for a user on either the 2010 box or the 2003 server. A user on the 2003 server can see some free/busy info for a user on the 2010 box but there seems to be a lot of lag i.e. an appointment I put in as a 2010 user half an hour back still hasn’t shown up when scheduling a meeting as a user on the 2003 box. I’ve ensured that both the 2003 and 2010 servers are on the replica list for the 2003 Administrative Group and the newly created 2010 Administrative Group. Not sure whether I’m actually having issues or just a lack of understanding/patience – more of the latter I suspect. Most of the migration guides seem to focus on replicating free/busy from the 2003 server to the 2010 server, few seem to mention what happens the other way around for users on 2003 to see the free/busy status of users on 2010. Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Ralph Thank you for this feedback. It is very useful. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: 07 June 2011 15:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions I've been running MessageSolution for a few years. I have one Exchange 2003 server with about 200 mailboxes. In the beginning, it was an almost complete disaster. The size of my mail store just about doubled by the time it was done with the initial archive operation, OWA became completely inaccessible every few days, and on Exchange store.exe started crashing on a regular basis. The MessageSolution software would sometimes just stop archiving. It was so bad that I asked for a refund, but they asked me to give them a chance to make everything right. They did eventually (a couple of months of troubleshooting) get it all working, although I never did regain the space in my database. It has been working OK for a couple of years now. One thing to note, I haven't had to use tech support over a year, so this may have changed, but their developers all seem to be based in China. For any issue that required their expertise, I had to give them remote access to my EEA server and they would work on in during what was for me the overnight hours. Some other issues - make them show you everything actually working - pst import, exporting archived messages to pst files, restoring messages, etc. Some of these things seem to work through the web interface, and others don't. Some functions, you have to use a separate utility instead of the web interface - I think searching for messages and then exporting the matching messages to pst was one of these. It works seamlessly (now) in OWA - users have no indication that they are viewing a stubbed message. In Outlook, in the preview pane, stubbed messages have a button to view the message but double clicking opens the original message as usual. The Outlook plugin often gets disabled and requires reenabling in Outlook. I see this also on other Outlook plugins, e.g. the Vipre plugin we use, so I don't know if this is a problem with the plugins, our environment, or just par for the course. One thing I do use all the time is the searching the archive - I'll search the archive even for recent messages since it often faster than scrolling through my inbox if I can't remember the sender and or subject You can't do a search from within OWA - for that you have to log into the EEA web interface. So for users on the road to search their archive you would have to make the EEA server available from the outside (VPN, port forwarding, etc.). So, bottom line, I am satisfied with the product now, since over the past couple of years it has worked acceptably well, but if I had to do it all over again I would choose a different solution. Ralph From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Archiving Solutions All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence
Re: Email Archiving Solutions
I’m running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix “Archive Manager” and MessageSolutions “Enterprise Email Archive” Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistimage001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Hi Stefan Do you know where is your support based? Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 16:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I'm running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office: Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistinline: image001.jpg
Re: Email Archiving Solutions
I forgot, running Exchange 2007 SP3 Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: I’m running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix “Archive Manager” and MessageSolutions “Enterprise Email Archive” Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistimage001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
That was my other choice when I chose MessageSolution. At the time I didn't want to have to purchase MS SQL server, and wasn't sure if the 4 GB limit on SQL Express 2005 would be enough. In hindsight I should have gone with Sunbelt. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I'm running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com http://www.nsf-cmi.com ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: --- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelistimage001.jpg
RE: Email Archiving Solutions
Somewhere in the EU from what I gathered last time I was on a support call. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Archiving Solutions Hi Stefan Do you know where is your support based? Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC2505.FE4460A0] From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 June 2011 16:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Archiving Solutions I'm running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix Archive Manager and MessageSolutions Enterprise Email Archive Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards Kevan Dickinson Network Manager NSF-CMi Ltd 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.commailto:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.comhttp://www.nsf-cmi.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CC2505.FE4460A0] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR.
Re: Email Archiving Solutions
There is some local support Pennsylvania I think, but the more difficult issues are dealt with in Slovakia I think. I had a phone support ones with eastern Europe but the guy was very knowledgeable and professional and it was fixed very quickly. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: Hi Stefan Do you know where is your support based? Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 07 June 2011 16:22 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Email Archiving Solutions I’m running Metalogix (formerly Sunbelt e-mail Archiver) for about 3 years. About 250 users, about 8.4 mil e-mails archived and 392 Gb used space. It works great with OWA and Remote Outlook. Support is pretty good. I have no complaints would recommend the product. Stefan On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Kevan Dickinson kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com wrote: All I am currently looking into Email Archive solutions. We are running Exchange 2010 with about 300 mailboxes. One of the main aims of this project is to eliminate PST files and to keep the exchange database at a reasonable size. The product must integrate with Outlook seamlessly, archived email must be available off line (cached) and available through OWA and Outlook anywhere. I have identified 2 products that would seem to fit our criteria and would like to know whether anyone has experience of either product or any feedback they can offer about usability, features and support. The products are Metalogix “Archive Manager” and MessageSolutions “Enterprise Email Archive” Thank you in advance for any opinions that you can offer. Regards *Kevan Dickinson* Network Manager *NSF-CMi Ltd* 23 Hanborough Business Park Long Hanborough Oxfordshire, OX29 8SJ Tel: 01993 885661 Fax: 01993 885603 Email: kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com Website: www.nsf-cmi.com [image: NSF-CMi logo] ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Stefan Jafs --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ***Disclaimer*** The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, NSF-CMi Ltd and its subsidiaries are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. This footnote also confirms that this Email message has been checked by MailMarshal for the presence of computer viruses. Whilst we run anti-virus software, you are solely responsible for ensuring that any Email or attachment you receive is virus free. We disclaim any liability for any damage you suffer as a consequence of receiving any virus. NSF-CMi Ltd Registered in England No: 1899857 Registered Office : Hill House, 1 Little New Street, London, EC4A 3TR. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body:
Re: Hotmail?
Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM). Kat Aylward On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft is using to deliver the Hotmail service? Is it Exchange? Cheers Ryan This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Hotmail?
I remember years ago when they aguared hotmail it ran on UNIX. There was talk of moving it to windows. I also remember Microsoft had a product they offered to large ISPs for email but I do not know what ever happened to that product. Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: messagel...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hotmail? Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM). Kat Aylward On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft is using to deliver the Hotmail service? Is it Exchange? Cheers Ryan This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Hotmail?
Move to Windows OS but not Exchange. Their environment is too message heavy to handle that. They do use the Datacenter platform now that MS is offering, but originally that was what took so long to migrate from *nix. As a matter of fact, that was my main project - the expansion and migration to the new platform. much hardware to be deployed!! On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: I remember years ago when they aguared hotmail it ran on UNIX. There was talk of moving it to windows. I also remember Microsoft had a product they offered to large ISPs for email but I do not know what ever happened to that product. Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: messagel...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hotmail? Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM). Kat Aylward On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft is using to deliver the Hotmail service? Is it Exchange? Cheers Ryan This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Kat Aylward --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Hotmail?
Azure data centre platform? Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: Kat Aylward Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hotmail? Move to Windows OS but not Exchange. Their environment is too message heavy to handle that. They do use the Datacenter platform now that MS is offering, but originally that was what took so long to migrate from *nix. As a matter of fact, that was my main project - the expansion and migration to the new platform. much hardware to be deployed!! On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: I remember years ago when they aguared hotmail it ran on UNIX. There was talk of moving it to windows. I also remember Microsoft had a product they offered to large ISPs for email but I do not know what ever happened to that product. Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: messagel...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hotmail? Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM). Kat Aylward On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft is using to deliver the Hotmail service? Is it Exchange? Cheers Ryan This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Kat Aylward --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Hotmail?
It is getting closer to Exchange.. Live@EDU is up to something like 60,000,000+ mailboxes and it is Exchange, so they can support it finally.. Now it is just a matter of time.. From: messagel...@gmail.com [mailto:messagel...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hotmail? Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM). Kat Aylward On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.commailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft is using to deliver the Hotmail service? Is it Exchange? Cheers Ryan This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Hotmail?
Is Live@EDU just universities? Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: KevinM Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hotmail? It is getting closer to Exchange.. Live@EDU is up to something like 60,000,000+ mailboxes and it is Exchange, so they can support it finally.. Now it is just a matter of time.. From: messagel...@gmail.com [mailto:messagel...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hotmail? Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM). Kat Aylward On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.commailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft is using to deliver the Hotmail service? Is it Exchange? Cheers Ryan This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
