Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Denis Havlik]

Hi

:>Denis.I have a suspicion that so51 doesn't like Linux versions
:>running 2.0 kernels and the associated library versions that ran on
:>those releases.  I suspect this because so50 was running fine on those
:>versions of linux but wouldn't run on the new 2.2 kernal versions.  Then
:>so51 was released and the problem was solved.  Possibly so51 is not
:>backward comaptible?!

Nay. AFAIK: 5.1 is based on newer glibc - therefore it does not RUN on
older Linux installs, unless you install those libraries somehow. I never
tried actually running SO 5.1 on RH 5.x machine, so this should not matter
at all. Soon I will upgrade the last 5.x-based machine, I just got a
"green light" for that, so it does not really matter but it makes you
wonder...

When I heard the story of "not beeing able to save" etc, I thought it may
be related somehow.

cu
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Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Denis Havlik]

Hi, John!

:>I think you answered your own problem: RedHat 5.x. I would
:>*guess* that the problem is likely something to do with
:>RedHat 5.x, NOT with StarOffice since you say it works on
:>all the other machines. So, the answer is: UPGRADE THE
:>BLOODY RH5.X BOX!!!

Easy to say so. The bloddy RH5.x box is the last box i have still running
2.0 kernel. If any of you happen to run ADSM-backuping, he knows why I
cannot update the bloddy machine - if I would do it, the next day my head
would be cut off, because the whole university backuping would be down.

IBM has prommised to solve the problem, and from what I heard they finaly
did it - after several patches which did not work properly. Now, I expect
to be able to update the machine by the end of the month and end this
horor story. However, NFS-implementation on RH 5.x is not so bad and
everything else works OK - therefore i still consider this a SO - bug.  
A particularly hatefull bug because it has costed me more than a
week to find out what is the problem, because this particular machine
happens to be my NFS server and allmost everyone has its home on it.

As our local guru said: "Welcome to the wonderfull world of subtile bugs".

cu
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[expert] Good Backup solution

[Patrick Putteman]

Hi all,

I have a Mandrake 6.0 system installed as our primary DNS server (we're an
ISP) and have some network monitoring tools installed (Netsaint, MRTG and
IPmeter). Works like a charm ;o)

I have a question though. An external 4/8gb SCSI travan tape is connected to
the box and is operational, and I'm looking for an 'as user friendly as
possible' backup sollution.

I could just tar all the stuff I want secured (basicaly our /var/named dir,
our mrtg dir, and our HTML dirs) to the tape, but I'm not the only one who
would have to be able to restore a backup (or part of the backup) if
something goes wrong.

I had a look at Kdat. I'ts friendly enough, but can't be scheduled. What's
more, it won't recognize a tape inserted in the drive, untill I format it.
And of course, once formated, data is lost so I can't restore from it.

Anyone know of a good, user friendly and especialy schedulable backup
sollution I could try out (and perhaps adopt)?

Thanks all,

Patrick Putteman
Internet Support Manager
Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group
www.net7.be - www.advalvas.be

[expert] Default 2.2.13 config

[Andrew Mitchell]

Could someone please post the default kernel config for 2.2.13 (as
Mandrakesoft compile it), as I've applied the uniform ide patch, but i
want to have a working kernel configuration to go from, in case I miss
out something important.
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Re: [expert] SO install -- footnote

[Brett Jones]

Benjamin Sher wrote:
> 
> Dear friends:
> 
> A footnote: After changing the ownership of the so51a 70 meg binary (in
> my SO directory) from root to sher, I installed so51a as user, not as
> root or as net, just plain ./setup as user in
> /home/sher/s051inst/office51.
> 
> Benjamin
> --
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> http://www.websher.net


I've not been following this thread, but why would you install a multi
user office suite into a user directory? By the way the -net switch is
not a user, it tells SO the install the core files for use in a network
environment.

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Re: [expert] Firewall is stopping my server from sending mail.

[Stephen Carville]

On 29 Nov, Eric L. Damron wrote:
- For some reason, when I run my firewall, my mail is not being relayed.  My
- firewall is just a set of ipchain rules.   Here is an example of my maillog
- file.  The first entry is something that I sent
- after dropping my firewall and the second is after the firewall is back up:
- 
- Nov 29 18:29:43 C287853-A sendmail[12067]: SAA12065: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
- ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp,
- relay=mx-rr.home.com. [24.0.0.194], stat=Sent (SAA24790 Message accepted for
- delivery)
- 
- Nov 29 18:31:57 C287853-A sendmail[12244]: SAA12244: from=root, size=216,
- class=0, pri=30216, nrcpts=1,
- msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
- relay=root@localhost
- Nov 29 18:31:57 C287853-A sendmail[12246]: SAA12244: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
- ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
- relay=mx1.home.com. [24.0.0.31], stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
- mx1.home.com.
- 
- Notice that the relay refuses a connection when my firewall is up!
- 
- Any idea why this would happen?

Just a shot in the dark but try to connecting to port 25 on the remote
 host (telnet  25). Maybe one of your firewall rules is
 preventing the handshake.

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society, the right of the people, to keep and read books shall not be 
infringed.

Re: [expert] Microsoft's "Vulnerability" ;-)

[Ramon Gandia]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999,  Sergio Korlowsky wrote:
> Check this one... hehe
> 
> Microsoft has released a version upgrade that eliminates a vulnerability in
> Microsoft(r) Internet Explorer 5. "A vulnerability in an optional component"
> could allow a malicious user to gain additional privileges on a Windows NT
> machine that allowed him or her to create or change files.
> 
> --
> 
> How about that... a 'vulnerability is an "optional" component...
> 
> soon they are going to claim that a "Vulnerability" is an 'additional Feature'
> 
> in Winsucks products!  he he.. Sorry I couldn't resist!  ;-)

You guys should have been around in the late 70's and early
80's.  Those were the heyday of CP/M, Altairs and lots of
S-100 computers14" drivesand 64K memory was a rich
man's toy.

Back then, there were some pretty zany expressions out there.
Lets take a Quiz:

1. "That's not a bug, that's a FEATURE!"

2. The dBASE-II ad with the rule bilge pump.  "Some
databases...well...suck."

3. "Vaporware" was coined.

4. Jerry Pournelle was ranting about some new software
or hardware product that was going to be released 
"Real_Soon_Now! tm"  It WAS trademarked, and is now in
the lexicon as RSNin the same context as Vaporware.

5. The IBM PC at 4.77 mHz was soundly beat in computing
speed by an Altair or any 2 mHz Z-80.  A good selling
point is that it came with TWO 160K double sided floppy
drives!  You could buy the XT with an incredible 5 MB
hard drive, but nobody could figure out what you would
need that vast amount of storage for!

6. "The bill is $1,000.  $5 for the time it took to tap
it with the screwdriver handleand $995 for knowing
WHERE to tap it."  IBM circa 7040/7044 computers in 1960's.

Of course, when Microsoft came strong on the scene in
1992all rules were cast aside.  ANYTHING goes now.
we have:  "Freedom to Innovate"  "Microsoft did not do
anything wrong because it is the top selling and most
wanted operating system...".  "I didn't say thatoh,
this email? I don't remember it...".



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[expert] SO install -- footnote

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear friends:

A footnote: After changing the ownership of the so51a 70 meg binary (in
my SO directory) from root to sher, I installed so51a as user, not as
root or as net, just plain ./setup as user in
/home/sher/s051inst/office51.

Benjamin
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Re: [expert] What is causing this?

[Stephen Carville]

On 29 Nov, Kari Suomela wrote:
- I keep seeing these in my messages log, and can't pinpoint what is 
- causing it:
- 
- 
- === Cut ===
- Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1876]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
- Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1877]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
- Nov 29 21:40:03 k4 identd[1878]: Returned: 4600 , 13014 : NO-USER
- Nov 29 21:40:06 k4 identd[1879]: Returned: 4601 , 13016 : NO-USER
- === Cut ===

Some service is requesting your machine identify itself and the user
requstign the service  The responses you see mean in.identd is started
with the -l (log responses) -e (anonymous) and -o (do not reveal
operating system) options in identd.conf.  Unless you have a need for
another machine to get your username -- such as a user@machine entry in
hosts.allow -- these are the safest settings

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A well educated citizenry, being essential to the maintenance of a free
society, the right of the people, to keep and read books shall not be 
infringed.

[expert] Firewall is stopping my server from sending mail.

[Eric L. Damron]

For some reason, when I run my firewall, my mail is not being relayed.  My
firewall is just a set of ipchain rules.   Here is an example of my maillog
file.  The first entry is something that I sent
after dropping my firewall and the second is after the firewall is back up:

Nov 29 18:29:43 C287853-A sendmail[12067]: SAA12065: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp,
relay=mx-rr.home.com. [24.0.0.194], stat=Sent (SAA24790 Message accepted for
delivery)

Nov 29 18:31:57 C287853-A sendmail[12244]: SAA12244: from=root, size=216,
class=0, pri=30216, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
relay=root@localhost
Nov 29 18:31:57 C287853-A sendmail[12246]: SAA12244: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
relay=mx1.home.com. [24.0.0.31], stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
mx1.home.com.

Notice that the relay refuses a connection when my firewall is up!

Any idea why this would happen?

Thanks

Re: [expert] What is causing this?

[Ronald J. Yacketta]

Kari Suomela wrote:
> 
> I keep seeing these in my messages log, and can't pinpoint what is
> causing it:
> 
> === Cut ===
> Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1876]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
> Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1877]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
> Nov 29 21:40:03 k4 identd[1878]: Returned: 4600 , 13014 : NO-USER
> Nov 29 21:40:06 k4 identd[1879]: Returned: 4601 , 13016 : NO-USER
> === Cut ===
> 
>  KS
looks like your box is trying to ident a person on another site and gets
the no-user returned.. (then again I could be wrong)

[expert] SO51a Save/backup -- Solved! (mostly)

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear friends:

First, my thanks to everyone on the list who was so kind to offer
suggestions and advice. Putting all the pieces together, I have finally
been able to solve the major problem, namely, that of saving. SO now
saves perfectly. SO will not save across directories (same permissions
error messsage), but that makes sense since I installed it as a user.
And that doesn't bother me in the list since I always save my documents
in my home docs directory anyway.The remaining problem is that of
backup. No more backup error messages, but I still can't backup a
document even though I checked "Always create backup" in Options,
General, Save.

What was the problem?

Thanks to the reassurance by list members that I could indeed save
across drives and directories and specific hints about permissions
during install, I finally figured out the problem. The original so51a
binary was root rather than user. How? Because I originally copied it
after download to my /bs/ storage directory and when I copied it back to
my /home directory after my new install of Mandrake, I did not change
the binary to "user" (by using chown). If you try to copy a file from
one directory to another using su -, the file becomes root even if it
originally was user. I just tried it again to test it. That has to be it
because I just changed the binary to user and the resulting Install
files (in so51inst) after untarring were all given a peculiar number
(rather than being root). So, although Office 51 was all "sher" (because
SO installed it in /home/sher/Office51), there were permission problems
that prevented me from saving. This also explains why my installation of
SO as a network, then again installing it as a user, didn't solve the
problem. Apparently, the fact that the original binary was still root
must have had everything to do with it. 

This time I first chown -R sher: sher * in my entire /home/sher
directory, which includes SO and its 70 meg installation binary:

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ cd SO
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$ ls
so51a_lnx_01.tar  so51inst
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$ ls -la
total 69020
drwxr-xr-x3 sher sher 1024 Nov 29 20:55 .
drwxr-x---   29 sher sher 2048 Nov 29 21:52 ..
-rw-r--r--1 sher sher 70393856 Nov 25 19:10 so51a_lnx_01.tar
drwxr-sr-x4 4534 310  1024 Aug 24 07:07 so51inst
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 so51inst]$ ls -la
total 11
drwxr-sr-x4 4534 310  1024 Aug 24 07:07 .
drwxr-xr-x3 sher sher 1024 Nov 29 20:55 ..
drwxr-sr-x2 4534 310  1024 May 11  1999 documentation
drwxr-xr-x2 4780 310  8192 Aug 24 06:44 office51
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 so51inst]$
 
   -rw-r--r--1 4780 310   681 Aug 24 05:44 f_98_1
-rw-r--r--1 4780 310 81867 Aug 20 03:25 f_99_1
-rw-r--r--1 4780 310   1279166 Aug 23 06:52 f_9_1
-rwxr-xr-x1 4780 310 86960 Aug 11 06:49 setup
-rw-r--r--1 4780 310275547 Aug 24 06:40 setup.ins
-rw-r--r--1 4780 310   7040582 Aug 24 06:44 setup.zip
[sher@adsl-77-232-182
office51]$ 


The permissions number, etc, was arbitrarily assigned by Staroffice
itself.

Now I went into StarOffice, typed a few lines and saved. Bingo! No
problem. Did it several times both in the default save 
directory and in my own /home/sher/docs directory:

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ ls
Desktop  Office51  install.bin  nsmail   tik
LM   SOmozilla  prophet.txt  tik-0.74.tar.gz
Mail docs  netomat  runnetomat   wp80
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$  

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 docs]$ ls
aid.sdw  data  general  marshak  reviews   temp   yale
anna dostovinferno  natasha  rus   vaginov
asciiextra inv  old  russmark  way.sdw
benjamin faina ladycat  others   scholar   websher
blind.sdwfiction   let-in   pdf  shklov~1  wentzell
commerce freeware  let-out  playssvezhowizard
country.sdw  friends   linuxpoetry   tech  yahoo-edu.doc
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 docs]$   

Please note the three .sdw files above: aid.sdw, blind.sdw and
country.sdw.

So now the SO binary, the Office51 directory and the docs directory are
all in my /home/sher directory/partition, which is the way I wanted it. 

My one last problem is that of backing up my saved document. Would
appreciate any ideas on why I can not backup my files automatically when
I have clearly checked the "Always create backup" in Options.

Thanks so much to everyone for your help.


Benjamin

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Re: [expert] What is causing this?

[Geoff Croxson]

At 09:56  29/11/99 EST5EDT, you wrote:
>I keep seeing these in my messages log, and can't pinpoint what is 
>causing it:
>
>
>=== Cut ===
>Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1876]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
>Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1877]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
>Nov 29 21:40:03 k4 identd[1878]: Returned: 4600 , 13014 : NO-USER
>Nov 29 21:40:06 k4 identd[1879]: Returned: 4601 , 13016 : NO-USER
>=== Cut ===
Eithereggdrop, iroffer, IRCII or BitchX. The IRC servers are querying
the clients for ident, and it seems either your ident is not
installed/running. If you installed it, then try a kill -HUP inetd to kick
start it,

Also.. to the person who saw the "-- MARK --" in their logs, I noticed this
too when a user started running iroffer on my host. iroffer is like an xdcc
bot, pretty harmless, and not a security risk AFIAK,


Regards

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[expert] Microsoft's "Vulnerability" ;-)

[Sergio Korlowsky]

Check this one... hehe

Microsoft has released a version upgrade that eliminates a vulnerability in
Microsoft(r) Internet Explorer 5. "A vulnerability in an optional component"
could allow a malicious user to gain additional privileges on a Windows NT
machine that allowed him or her to create or change files.

--

How about that... a 'vulnerability is an "optional" component...

soon they are going to claim that a "Vulnerability" is an 'additional Feature'

in Winsucks products!  he he.. Sorry I couldn't resist!  ;-)

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Re: [expert] What is causing this?

[Steve Philp]

Kari Suomela wrote:
> 
> I keep seeing these in my messages log, and can't pinpoint what is
> causing it:
> 
> === Cut ===
> Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1876]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
> Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1877]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
> Nov 29 21:40:03 k4 identd[1878]: Returned: 4600 , 13014 : NO-USER
> Nov 29 21:40:06 k4 identd[1879]: Returned: 4601 , 13016 : NO-USER

Remote hosts are using the ident daemon to find out who is connecting to
them.  From the logs, your machine is returning 'NO-USER' to each of the
requests.  Not particularly helpful to remote administrators, but it
does cut down on the useful information that you provide to would-be
crackers.

They're harmless messages.

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Re: [expert] Basic Install

[PatMc]

I degress a bit but this is a link to some very handy boot disks.   I have
used both cramdisk and tomsrtbt with succsess. Both create a ram disk for
operation about 4meg.  What would it take to copy the ram disk to the
harddrive and make it bootable.

http://www.zait.uni-bremen.de/pub/mirrors/sunsite/system/recovery/

Pat

Denis Havlik wrote:

> :>Hello All...
> :>
> :>I'm curious too know, if some could give me an idea of what would be the
> :>minimum install to get a basic system up and running..
>
> ? Depends on what you call "basic". There are "mini" and "micro" linux
> distributions out there which fit on two floppies or so... No X, no user
> programs, etc...
>
> You will come rather near to "smallest possible Mandrake install" if you
> choose: "manually choose packages" and disable everything you can - AFAIK
> it will install some core system even if you disable everything. No idea
> what this would be good for, but it's your system...
>
> :>What i'm after is too do a system from the ground up installing just the
> :>progs that i want on the system, recompiling them as i install them
> :>etc..
>
> Install your "basic system", log-in and type
>
> "rpm -qia>/tmp/installed-progs.list"
>
> in a terminal. This will give you list of installed packages+some info
>
> To find out what you have on your CD, type:
>
> "rpm -qip *>/tmp/all-progs.list" in "RPMS" directory.
>
> >From now on - it is up to you...
>
> Recompiling programms under Linux is a breeze - I am afraid it will not
> teach you much. It cannot hearth you either. Recompile a kernel - this is
> a cute expirience. Other than that... Well, my sugestion is - try working
> with a system for some time. Find out where the documentation is :
> man/info/HOWTO/FAQ/dejanews...
>
> Sooner or later you will find a small program which "would be much better
> if it only could do X". Well, this is the program you want to work on. In
> the meantime, learning C,C++,perl or basically any other programming
> language is a Good Thing (TM).
>
> :>Basically I'm doing this out of a combination of curiousity, and to get
> :>a more in depth working knowledge of linux in general.
>
> Take care - Linux is a bad desease. The more you know the more you will
> want to learn. And once you are hooked...  .-)
>
> may Tux be with you.
>
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Re: [expert] SO51a - saving & backup -- No go!

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear John:

Very reassuring to know that SO will save across all drives and
partitions. By the way, I have the same problem even when I use the
default Office51 Work folder and backup directories.

By the way, what is NFS, please, and how does it factor into this
situation?

Thanks so much.

Benjamin
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[expert] What is causing this?

[Kari Suomela]

I keep seeing these in my messages log, and can't pinpoint what is 
causing it:


=== Cut ===
Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1876]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
Nov 29 21:40:01 k4 identd[1877]: Returned: 4599 , 21 : NO-USER
Nov 29 21:40:03 k4 identd[1878]: Returned: 4600 , 13014 : NO-USER
Nov 29 21:40:06 k4 identd[1879]: Returned: 4601 , 13016 : NO-USER
=== Cut ===


 KS

Re: [expert] X not working after going to 6.1

[Bill&Virginia Hodges]

I had a similar problem until I fixed the FontPath that the installation
garbaged by entering:


FontPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath"unix/:7100/"

[expert] FreeSwan for 6.1

[Jeff Groves]

Has anyone compiled the FreeSwan (http://freeswan.org) crypto package for 
Mandrake 6.1?

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Bill&Virginia Hodges]

Denis,
If you are referring to me (the first portion of the excerp)
I just mounted an old NetBSD disk and went to /mnt/etc and
edited motd file using Star Office..


Denis Havlik wrote:

> :~>> I do not understand this.
> :~>> My StarOffice 5.1 on Mandrake 6.1 allows me to use it up arrow
> :~>> navigation aid to go to any one of the directory entries
> :~>> that I get when I issue a mount command.
> :~>> There must be something wrong with your installation.
> :~>
> :~>No.  I am using the new kernel-based nfs (knfs).  This limitation of knfs is
> :~>well documented.
>
> Could you elaborate on this? I have home-directories automounted and the
> damn thing did not want to do a user-instalation for users whose dirs
> reside on an older RH 5.x machine.
>
> Denis
> -
> Mag. Denis Havlik  
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Re: [expert] SO51a - saving & backup -- No go!

[Steve Philp]

Ron Stodden wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, B Sher wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately, none has yet really figured it out.
> 
> Room for doubt on that one!
> 
> > There is one variable that has changed in this picture: In this last
> > installation of Mandrake 6.1 from my PowerPack CD, I added a separate
> > /home partition and installed StarOffice in /home/sher. This is where I
> > installed it before, too, but this time /home is a separate partition,
> > while before it was part of the single / partition that Linux was
> > installed into.
> 
> I told you  did I not, that StarOffice 5.1 will not navigate over mount
> points. This would indicate that SO is not using the standard file system
> commands.   [which should be warning enough to stay away]
> 
> It also indicates that it was never tested by StarDivision or Sun
> Microsystems on an installation which is spread over many partitions.
> [as is recommended by many Linux devotees]

Having just tested my 5.1a installation, I think you might be
overstating the problem.

I opened my copy of StarOffice, started a new text document, clicked
File, Save As... then navigated to a directory that is mounted
(/mnt/backup, an 8G partition on another drive), entered a filename and
saved the document.  No errors were reported and the file exists in the
specified location.

Now, if you want to limit that statement to NFS mounts, that might be
something.  But please, stick to the facts.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] NTP will not update!

[Ramon Gandia]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999,  Jason Antonacci wrote:
> I believe Network Time Protocol (NTP) only uses UDP port 123. 
> The utility ntptrace times out (ntp equivanet of traceroute). 
> SO, I open a tunnel from EXT to the NTP server for UDP 123,
> update the filters and it still times out.  What is the problem
> here?  The ntp.conf is the bare minimum directed to an open
> public server (tick.gatech.edu)

I don't know about NTP and port 123, but I can use regular
time protocol port 37 on tick.gatech.edu and it works OK

rdate -p tick.gatech.edu

a bit slow in responding, I use time.nist.gov myself.  Are 
you sure that tick.gatech.edu has an NTP server in addition
to the regular time server?  NTP is not a very common 
protocol.

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Re: [expert] Apache in Mandrake 6.1

[Shannon M. Johnston]

You need to download the FP2000 extensions from Microsoft. They're a bit
difficult to find. Note, the FP extensions demand root access to your machine.
Not a good thing.

"Wingate, Steve [IBM NON J&J]" wrote:

> I have installed the Apache 1.3.9 which came w/Mandrake 6.1 via FTP. I've
> read that I have to install a patch for FP 2000 extensions but I don't see
> where the patch is located. I'd also like to install php3 and I don't know
> where that is either. I've looked on several FTP sites. I'm used to
> FreeBSD's ports system which can automatically retrieve these things. It
> seems my system doesn't have the rpmfind feature either.
>
> Steve Wingate, MCSE
> IBM Global Services
> (310)337-6830
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Work like you don't need the money.
> Dance like nobody's watching.
> Love like you've never been hurt.

RE: [expert] Apache in Mandrake 6.1

[mike hooker]

> -Original Message-
> From: Wingate, Steve [IBM NON J&J] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 1999 11:08
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:  [expert] Apache in Mandrake 6.1
> 
> I have installed the Apache 1.3.9 which came w/Mandrake 6.1 via FTP. I've
> read that I have to install a patch for FP 2000 extensions but I don't see
> where the patch is located. I'd also like to install php3 and I don't know
> where that is either. I've looked on several FTP sites. I'm used to
> FreeBSD's ports system which can automatically retrieve these things. It
> seems my system doesn't have the rpmfind feature either. 
> 
[mike hooker]  
FP2000 extensions are at
http://coruscant.netrevolution.com/pub/ExtranetServer/RPMS/
Install this via RPM Manager then run the install script.  Works
fine with FP2000 & FP98

Mike Hooker
Support Services Manager
Canon New Zealand Ltd
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> Steve Wingate, MCSE
> IBM Global Services
> (310)337-6830
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Work like you don't need the money.
> Dance like nobody's watching.
> Love like you've never been hurt.
> 

[expert] X not working after going to 6.1

[Serge Pineault]

Hi:

I have upgraded to Mandrake 6.1 from 6.0 (in fact I installed from
scratch after having made a copy of all my configuration files) skipping
the part on X configuration.  I copied my older XF86Config file to
/etc/X11 and checked that the links to the X server pointed to XF86_SVGA
as before (via Xwrapper).

When typing startx as I was doing before on 6.0, the server would not
start properly.  Yet, minutes before on 6.0, X was running smoothly with the 
very same XF86Config file and server type (SVGA).

I tried XF86Setup, but this hanged my machine.  I also tried Xconfigurator,
with a number of different "reasonable" parameters, without success.
I also tried xf86config.
Out of curiosity, I then deleted the XF86Config file Xconfigurator had just
produced, copied back my older XF86Config file, typed startx and the
thing got going!!!  This was a short victory since, when I logged off
and restarted the machine, X refused again to start. 
The other few times I managed to get X going again, it was 
always doing the above trick Xconfigurator-delete-copy-startx scenario.

Is the problem with the XF86Config file (it was OK on 6.0), the new version
of the XF86_SVGA server?
Anybody experienced a similar problem and found the cure???  

Thanks for any help,

Serge Pineault

P.S. I have a Diamond SpeedStar A50 card (SiS 6326 chipset) and
a Samsung Samtron 55E monitor, and use KDE.

P.P.S. The various non-working states the system gets after typing
startx are either a black screen or a sort-of desktop but totally
unreadable (although one sometimes can guess an opened xterm here,
some sort of icon there, etc...). 

[expert] NTP will not update!

[Jason Antonacci]

I believe Network Time Protocol (NTP) only uses UDP port 123.  The utility ntptrace 
times out (ntp equivanet of traceroute).  SO, I open a tunnel from EXT to the NTP 
server for UDP 123, update the filters and it still times out.  What is the problem 
here?  The ntp.conf is the bare minimum directed to an open public server 
(tick.gatech.edu)

Jason S. Antonacci
Computer Support Specialist IV
Univ. of Georgia - Savannah River Ecology Lab

Office: 803.725.5984
Pager: 706.869.4043
Fax: 503.218.7129
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[expert] Apache in Mandrake 6.1

I have installed the Apache 1.3.9 which came w/Mandrake 6.1 via FTP. I've
read that I have to install a patch for FP 2000 extensions but I don't see
where the patch is located. I'd also like to install php3 and I don't know
where that is either. I've looked on several FTP sites. I'm used to
FreeBSD's ports system which can automatically retrieve these things. It
seems my system doesn't have the rpmfind feature either. 

Steve Wingate, MCSE
IBM Global Services
(310)337-6830
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Work like you don't need the money.
Dance like nobody's watching.
Love like you've never been hurt.

[expert] New Telecom Italia price

[Roberto A. F.]

Telecom Italia s.p.a. next month will change telephone price.
People use kppp can't counting correctly the price of connection.
I write new rules and how-to to install them, naturally in italian.
You can find them in

http://www.fisica.unige.it/~linuxgrp/download.htm

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DDNNNDMNIF web-mst: http://www.fisica.unige.it/linuxgrp

Re: [expert] Hangup on detecting mouse (ps2)

[Roberto A. F.]

Ronald Pijnacker wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I seem to have a problem during the install of Mandrake-6.1 that
> freezes my whole system (only power-off helps!). This happens during
> or after detection of my ps2-mouse. I've tried to disable the ps2
> mouse in my bios, with no difference and I've also tried using the
> expert mode, so that I can bypass the mouse-probing, however it does
> this anyway. Any clues?
>
> My system is a K6-2 366MHz laptop with ps2 mouse. If more details are
> needed please ask.

What is the manifacture of this laptop ?
Have you tried to unplug ps/2 external mouse ?

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ronald Pijnacker

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[expert] Explanation = syslogd 1.3-3 memory leak?

[Jason Antonacci]

We use linux to log several other system's activities.  The daily end result is a 
23-30MB file.  I have noticed that on Mondays the syslogd process is reading a system 
time of 00:22:25 or around there.  It is only today that I have really begun to keep a 
close eye on it w/ %cpu,%mem, etc.  Before Thanksgiving I turned off all local logging 
items and left only the essential stuff.  This didn't help.  The system is running 
kernel 2.2.13-7mdksmp and syslog v1.3-3.

Jason S. Antonacci
Computer Support Specialist IV
Univ. of Georgia - Savannah River Ecology Lab

Office: 803.725.5984
Pager: 706.869.4043
Fax: 503.218.7129
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] Back to Red Hat - ?

[Sergio Korlowsky]

"Vanco, Donald" wrote:

>
> > I've only used Mandrake.  How is Red Hat different from Mandrake?
> Based solely on my experience:
> RedHat 6.1 - lots of install anomalies (partitioning issues, wants you to
> configure X before a single package is install {really nice if it should
> hang!})
> RedHat 6.1 - misses lots of packages on install (grep, cpio, tar, bzip2,
> find, rpm - to name a few off a very long list)
> RedHat 6.1 - SMP kernel works (MDK 6.1 did not)
> RedHat 6.1 - PCMCIA works (MDK 6.1 did not)
> MDK 6.1 - KDE (RH 6.1 Gnome - ugh)
> Both start way too many daemons (every box I own is not, in fact, a mail
> server) and have fairly bloated installs (lots of mail, chat, and news
> clients)

Well folks... all or most of those issues have been covered and corrected in
cooker!
no more deamons starting on its own ;-)
you select whatever you want to run or install, and there' is added security
also, so
just wait a little longer and you will have a totally NEW Mandrake, even the
installation
DrakX looks great! hang on guys! its coming you way soon!

Sergio Korlowsky

--
   M A N D R A K E
* The Friendliest of ALL Linux Distros *
   * Time is in our side *

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[John Aldrich]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> I am refering to the "autofs". I have several machines here - most of them
> with Mandrake 6.1, one still has RedHat 5.x on it. "home" is always
> exported to a whole NIS group and mounted on request as "/homes/MACHINE".
> 
> StarOffice is installed everywhere (as /net install), and if I try the
> "user instalation" it works as long as the users home directory is not
> exported from the RedHat 5.x machine. 
> 
I think you answered your own problem: RedHat 5.x. I would
*guess* that the problem is likely something to do with
RedHat 5.x, NOT with StarOffice since you say it works on
all the other machines. So, the answer is: UPGRADE THE
BLOODY RH5.X BOX!!!
John

Re: [expert] SO51a - Partition problem?

[Axalon Bloodstone]

Please quote so as i can follow the thread... as i've no clue which
message your responding..

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Benjamin Sher wrote:
> Dear Axalon:
> 
> Thanks so much for responding. I am still very unclear as to what the
> problem and what I should do.
> 
> I don't mind reinstalling SO, if necessary, but I can't understand why I
> should have a problem with SO when it is installed on a single-user's
> machine running only Linux and where the SO51a tar file, Office51 and
> docs are all on the same /home/sher partition. Why should I have a
> problem. I had no problem installing SO. What could possible be
> preventing it from saving (in native .sdw format) and backup. I get a
> "permissions" error message ("insufficient permissions" for a user). How
> could this be?
> 
> Thanks again. Hope somebody has an answer. 
> 
> Benjamin
> 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon

Re: [expert] SO51a - saving & backup -- No go!

[John Aldrich]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> I told you  did I not, that StarOffice 5.1 will not navigate over mount
> points. This would indicate that SO is not using the standard file system 
> commands.   [which should be warning enough to stay away]
>
Baloney. It *does* work over mount points.  I do it all the
time. I've got a two-hard drive system at home with
Mandrake 6.0. I've got SO5.1a (afaik, the only real
difference is that it no longer requires a reg code) on my
machine at home and SO5.1 (no "a" rev) on my RedHat 6.0
machine at work. Both work fine over mount points.
>
> It also indicates that it was never tested by
>StarDivision or Sun Microsystems on an installation
> which is spread over many partitions.  
> [as is recommended by many Linux devotees] > 
> 
I don' t know about that, never having discussed it with
them. :-) I just know that it works here I don't know
what your problem would be other than perhaps NFS.
John

Re: [expert] SO51a - saving & backup -- No go!

[John Aldrich]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> Dear friends:
> 
> First, my thanks to all of you who have written in with your
> suggestions. Unfortunately, none has yet really figured it out.
> 
> Here is another piece of the puzzle:
> 
> I installed and USED StarOffice 51 before several times, although as a
> back. At the time my default word processor was WordPerfect 8 for Linux.
> Now I have decided to reverse the situation and use StarOffice as my
> preferred word processor and  WP as a backup.
> 
> At any rate, I do not recall having any saving or backup problems in the
> past when I did use StarOffice, although I can't quite recall the
> specifics. But I am pretty sure I never had a problem with saving or
> backup in SO51.
> 
> There is one variable that has changed in this picture: In this last
> installation of Mandrake 6.1 from my PowerPack CD, I added a separate
> /home partition and installed StarOffice in /home/sher. This is where I
> installed it before, too, but this time /home is a separate partition,
> while before it was part of the single / partition that Linux was
> installed into. In other words, I used to have / (hda1), a swap
> partition and /bs (hdb1). Now I have / (hda1, /home (hda3 and /bs
> (hdb1). Could this have anything to do with it? Everything is working
> fine, including StarOffice itself, apparently, except for this saving
> and backup problem. 
> 
Ben:
I have two drives in my system at home: one 850 meg IDE and
one 8.5 gig SCSI. I routinely save files on the SCSI drive
from within Star Office under various directories. I *do,*
however, have a symlink to the main directory tree I use
for storing from within Star Office on the IDE drive. I
don't know if that would make any difference to your setup
or not, however, I'm using SO5.1a (tarball installation)
and  Mandrake 6.0 at home as well as SO5.1a and RedHat 6.0
on my work machine which has two separate IDE drives.
On NEITHER machine have I experienced any problems saving
on any directory on any drive. While SO *likes* to have all
the files it's using under it's directory structure, it's
by no means necessary.
Now, I've never used NFS, so I don't know if that could be
the problem, although my understanding is that NFS can be
tricky to implement.
John

Re: [expert] SO51a - Partition problem?

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear Axalon:

Thanks so much for responding. I am still very unclear as to what the
problem and what I should do.

I don't mind reinstalling SO, if necessary, but I can't understand why I
should have a problem with SO when it is installed on a single-user's
machine running only Linux and where the SO51a tar file, Office51 and
docs are all on the same /home/sher partition. Why should I have a
problem. I had no problem installing SO. What could possible be
preventing it from saving (in native .sdw format) and backup. I get a
"permissions" error message ("insufficient permissions" for a user). How
could this be?

Thanks again. Hope somebody has an answer. 

Benjamin
-- 
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear John:

Really appreciate your input into this SO permissions problem. 

Any suggestions on how to resolve what seems to be a permissions
problem. The SO51a, the Office51 directory and my docs all reside in my
/home/sher directory. Why in the world would I have a permissions
problem? Why can I not save and backup my files? Just can't figure it
out. I am a single user on a single all-Linux machine. Makes no sense to
me.

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ ls
Desktop  Office51  install.bin  nsmail   tik
LM   SOmozilla  prophet.txt  tik-0.74.tar.gz
Mail docs  netomat  runnetomat   wp80
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ df
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 2.6G  1.4G  1.1G  56% /
/dev/hda3 1.2G  467M  656M  42% /home
/dev/hdb1 2.9G  423M  2.3G  15% /bs
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$
 

By the way, I did try to install SO as a network (setup /net) but still
found myself with the same save/backup problem.


Thanks so much again.

Benjamin  
-- 
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net

Re: [expert] IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Yann-Erick Proy wrote:

> Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
>  
> > Post the log of the IPCP chatter..
> > 
> [...]
> > > - Whenever attempting to connect to the ISP through ISDN, everything
> > >   runs fine until the PPP connection process comes to IP address setting
> > >   (including ISDN board setup, dialing, and PAP authentification).
> > > - Then the PPP client on the linux box (be it Mandrake 5.2, 6.0 or 6.1)
> > >   doesn't seem to see the IP proposed by the ISP (I know the IP is proposed
> > >   because I checked with the hotline).
> > > - Finally it hangs out, leaving a "IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests"
> > >   in the system log.
> > > - Same symptoms with isdn4linux scripting or KISDN.
> [...]
> 
> Experimentations with another ISP lead me a little further. Since my main
> concern
> is successful connection, I'll come back to the difficulties with the former
> ISP
> later.
> 
> With the second ISP the Linux box accepts its IP, but gets disconnected as
> soon as
> it does. Here is the corresponding fragment from the log:
> 
> ipppd[759]: local  IP address 164.138.56.223
> ipppd[759]: remote IP address 195.6.71.132
> ipppd[759]: ioctl(SIOCADDRT) device route (ippp0/195.6.0.0/): Le
> réseau ne fonctionne pas.

I've seen ppp decide to use ppp1 half way thru the config, usualy cause
theres another proccess of pppd running

> [NB: Sorry for the french here, literaly ]

I can't find that string :/

> ipppd[759]: LCP terminated by peer
> kernel: ippp0: remote hangup
> 
> Any suggestion?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Yann
> 
> 

--
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--Axalon

[expert] 80 80 kernel messages

[Robert J Bartels]

Hi all,

  I just put in a new (old at1500 isa nic) card to replace a faulty
Dell optiplex builtin nic. This card seems to work fine.. i.e. none of the
problems I was having with the network slowing to a crawl have come back...
But now I am getting messages sent to the console with a kernel
priority The message consists of a string of 80's... Like this
80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80

Anyone have a clue what this means???

Thanks

Bob

BTW This seems to be sent every 5  minutes or so.. and only seems to
happen when the network bandwidth is around >400KB/s

[expert] hdparm equivalent for SCSI ?

[Bois, Mathieu]

Hi,

I would like to know if there's an equivalent program to hdparm for SCSI?

I would be especially interested in the energy savings options (snooze the
disk or put it offline until next reboot).

Thanks and regards

Mathieu

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Alan Shoemaker]

Denis.I have a suspicion that so51 doesn't like Linux versions
running 2.0 kernels and the associated library versions that ran on
those releases.  I suspect this because so50 was running fine on those
versions of linux but wouldn't run on the new 2.2 kernal versions.  Then
so51 was released and the problem was solved.  Possibly so51 is not
backward comaptible?!

Alan


Denis Havlik wrote:
> 
> Hi again.
> 
> SO saga goes on...
> 
[CLIP]
> I am sitting in front of the machien "A", and trying to access /homes/B,
> which is a autofs-mounted home directory from the "B" machine. Now what?
> 
> In my expirience, "navigating" over "/homes/" or "/homes/B" causes no
> trouble at all. The problem I see is that I cannot even start StarOffice
> if machine "B" is running some kind of Redhat 5.x system (2.0.? kernel).
>  I can post you exact versions of all the relevant programs, if you think
> that could be of any use...
> 
> cu
> Denis
> -
> Mag. Denis Havlik  
> University of Vienna||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Austria(@ @)   tel: (++431) 4277/51179
> ---oOO--(_)--OOo-

Re: [expert] SO51a - saving & bakup -- No go!

[Denis Havlik]

:~>Hello, 
:~>have you installed SO at first as root with the parameter /net and then
:~>run setup from a user account?

Pff. I am not sure if you meant to ask me this, but... Yes

:~>Have your soffice-process root permissions (in order to write to every
:~>partition)?

No. And i am not going to. Running SO suid-root is about the last thing I
am willing to do. Right after installing windows 2000. :-)


:~>Have you forbidden, that somebody write to your home - parition/directory?
:~>

Yes. Everyone except me.

cu
Denis

RE: [expert] Back to Red Hat - ?

[Vanco, Donald]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 10:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Back to Red Hat - ?
> 
> 
> I've only used Mandrake.  How is Red Hat different from Mandrake?
Based solely on my experience:
RedHat 6.1 - lots of install anomalies (partitioning issues, wants you to
configure X before a single package is install {really nice if it should
hang!})
RedHat 6.1 - misses lots of packages on install (grep, cpio, tar, bzip2,
find, rpm - to name a few off a very long list)
RedHat 6.1 - SMP kernel works (MDK 6.1 did not)
RedHat 6.1 - PCMCIA works (MDK 6.1 did not)
MDK 6.1 - KDE (RH 6.1 Gnome - ugh)
Both start way too many daemons (every box I own is not, in fact, a mail
server) and have fairly bloated installs (lots of mail, chat, and news
clients)
Getting PCMCIA to work (with more recent code) and compiling my own SMP
kernel were cake

Other than that they are pretty much the same IMHO.  I got tired of RH
forcing me to piece over every install that I now run Mandrake with a bunch
of stuff from the RH 6.1 PowerTools CD.
YMMV
Don

Re: [expert] ATI announces official support for Linux OS

[Phil Edwards]

On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> ATI Technologies Inc. has announced that it is fully supporting the 
> development of drivers for the Linux Operating System and is endorsing
> the open source movement by releasing 2D, 3D and multimedia programming
> specifications for its industry-leading RAGE graphics technology.
> Recognizing
> the phenomenal growth and increasing popularity of Linux, ATI is
> committed
> to ensuring that the open source development community has access to 
> technical development information on all its key components. 
> For more info click on the following link,
> http://www.ati.com/ca_us/corporate/press/1999/4241.html

There aren't many things that really get my back up, but the quote given in
this press release does:

"I am happy to see the support from ATI for XFree86 and the Linux community"

ATI have (to the best of my knowledge) done *absolutely nothing* until now to
help the XFree86 project team with any kind of development support. Don't get me
wrong, I'm glad they've (apparently) changed their minds, but to try and give
the impression that they've been a "Linux-Friendly" corporation all along
really stinks.

I wonder if they'll be happy to put any newly-developed drivers out under the
GPL?

-- 
Phil Edwards
Technical Specialist
==
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==

Re: [expert] SO51a - Partition problem?

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Benjamin Sher wrote:

ben what format are you trying to save in, i've tryed everything but
automounted nfs, even on fat32 i can't reproduce the no save.

worst comes to worst you can 
"strace -o ~/soffice.out ~/Office51/bin/soffice"
This is going to bog your machine like you've never seen before so don't
doddle try to save and imediately exit. The resulting file from just
starting soffice and threefingering my X server when it loaded the main
screen was 2Mb. Once you've shut it down again run 
"grep open ~/soffice.out" and/or "grep open ~/soffice.out|grep -i deny"

> Dear Ron:
> 
> Thanks for writing. I think the partition issue is probably the key to
> solving this problem, and I appreciate your comments.
> 
> I installed the SO binary in /home/sher, then su - to root, then back to
> /home/sher/SO to untar the file. This created so51inst in /home/sher/SO.
> I then switched back to user, back to /home/sher/SO/so51inst and
> installed SO as user by typing the command ./setup. Everything went
> smoothly. SO suggested the /home/sher/Office51 directory, which I
> accepted. And that was that.
> 
> [sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ ls
> Desktop  Office51  install.bin  nsmail   tik
> LM   SOmozilla  prophet.txt  tik-0.74.tar.gz
> Mail docs  netomat  runnetomat   wp80
> [sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ cd SO
> [sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$ ls
> so51a_lnx_01.tar  so51inst
> [sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$
>  
>  
> So, what could be wrong? SO is installed in my home directory, as are
> the docs (whether I use the SO default directory for docs and backups,
> which is in /home/sherOffice51 or my own, that is, /home/sher/docs. Same
> problem, either way.
> 
> By the way, WordPerfect won't write across partitions, either. Yet, I
> have installed WordPerfect also in my /home/sher/wp80 directory and am
> using it now while I try to figure out what's wrong with SO. No problem
> with saving or backup in WP. So, why should I have a problem in SO?
> 
> If my installation is wrong, could you suggest how I could install so as
> to solve this problem?
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Benjamin
> 
> Benjamin and Anna Sher
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sher's Russian Web
> http://www.websher.net
> 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[John Aldrich]

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 1999,  Sher wrote:
> 
> > Well, it didn't do the trick. Tried to save a new
> > document and got the same error message about permissions. So far, no
> > luck.
> 
> Ideas:
> 
> 1.  StarOffice just will not navigate past any mount points it encounters.
> [that alone is enough to get it my royal trash can award]
> 
Wrong. I use it across drives all the time. No problems
there...
>
> 2.  StarOffice seems to require all the
> documents, etc that it deals with to be located in its
> own local working area.   [that also is enough to get it
> my royal trash can award] 
>
That's what it PREFERS, but it's not required. You can
access or save to ANY directory anywhere you have
permission. Theoretically, if you have a drive mounted on a
remote computer you could save to that drive.
>
> 3.  Even though StarOffice seems to be
> KDE-aware, it really isn't.   [that also is enough to
> get it my royal trash can award] 
> 
How do you mean? I realize it has it's own "desktop" but I
never really use that... I just open and close Star Office
as needed to use the apps there.
John

Re: [expert] IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

[Yann-Erick Proy]

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
 
> Post the log of the IPCP chatter..
> 
[...]
> > - Whenever attempting to connect to the ISP through ISDN, everything
> >   runs fine until the PPP connection process comes to IP address setting
> >   (including ISDN board setup, dialing, and PAP authentification).
> > - Then the PPP client on the linux box (be it Mandrake 5.2, 6.0 or 6.1)
> >   doesn't seem to see the IP proposed by the ISP (I know the IP is proposed
> >   because I checked with the hotline).
> > - Finally it hangs out, leaving a "IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests"
> >   in the system log.
> > - Same symptoms with isdn4linux scripting or KISDN.
[...]

Experimentations with another ISP lead me a little further. Since my main
concern
is successful connection, I'll come back to the difficulties with the former
ISP
later.

With the second ISP the Linux box accepts its IP, but gets disconnected as
soon as
it does. Here is the corresponding fragment from the log:

ipppd[759]: local  IP address 164.138.56.223
ipppd[759]: remote IP address 195.6.71.132
ipppd[759]: ioctl(SIOCADDRT) device route (ippp0/195.6.0.0/): Le
réseau ne fonctionne pas.
[NB: Sorry for the french here, literaly ]
ipppd[759]: LCP terminated by peer
kernel: ippp0: remote hangup

Any suggestion?

Kind regards,

Yann

-- 
Yann-Erick Proy  --  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quartz Informatique  --  http://www.quartz.fr/  --  Annecy (F-74000)

La diversité est source de richesse.

[expert] SO51a - saving & bakup -- Saga goes on

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear Marian and friends:

Looks like the SO save and backup saga goes on. 

I am sure the problem is either with the partitioning ( / plus /home /bs
) or with permissions. Hopefully, someone will figure it out. It's
probably a very simple problem, that is, if you are really familiar with
these things, which I am not.

Thanks again for writing. I will certainly post the solution when I find
it.

Benjamin
-- 
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net

[expert] SO51a - Partition problem?

[S. Newhouse]

Benjamin Sher writes:
 > Dear Ron:
 > 
 > Thanks for writing. I think the partition issue is probably the key to
 > solving this problem, and I appreciate your comments.
 > 
 > I installed the SO binary in /home/sher, then su - to root, then back to
 > /home/sher/SO to untar the file. This created so51inst in /home/sher/SO.
 > I then switched back to user, back to /home/sher/SO/so51inst and
 > installed SO as user by typing the command ./setup. Everything went
 > smoothly. SO suggested the /home/sher/Office51 directory, which I
 > accepted. And that was that.
 > 
 > [sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ ls
 > Desktop  Office51  install.bin  nsmail   tik
 > LM   SOmozilla  prophet.txt  tik-0.74.tar.gz
 > Mail docs  netomat  runnetomat   wp80
 > [sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ cd SO
 > [sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$ ls
 > so51a_lnx_01.tar  so51inst
 > [sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$
 >  
 >  
 > So, what could be wrong? SO is installed in my home directory, as are
 > the docs (whether I use the SO default directory for docs and backups,
 > which is in /home/sherOffice51 or my own, that is, /home/sher/docs. Same
 > problem, either way.
 > 
 > By the way, WordPerfect won't write across partitions, either. Yet, I
 > have installed WordPerfect also in my /home/sher/wp80 directory and am
 > using it now while I try to figure out what's wrong with SO. No problem
 > with saving or backup in WP. So, why should I have a problem in SO?
I have soffice5.1a (from SUN) and it runs fine across NSF mounts, so
writing across partitions should be no problem.  You probably have a
permission problem perhaps because of the order in which you did
things. 

If several people are going to use soffice, you should install it in a 
common area such as /opt/Office51 as root
 1. Untar the file to a temporary location; e.g. /tmp/Office51 (or
anywhere you have enough room. 

 2. Assuming this has been done, as root, type 
   /tmp/Office51/bin/setup /net 
  
 Follow the installation and it will set up the Office package, say in 
 /opt/Office51

 3. As a normal user, type 
   /opt/Office51/bin/setup

 This will create the necessary files in your home directory with the
correct permissions.  It should also set your path variables properly
so that from your usual desktop, you can type "soffice" to get
started. 

-Cheers,
 -sen


 > If my installation is wrong, could you suggest how I could install so as
 > to solve this problem?
 > 
 > Thanks again.
 > 
 > Benjamin
 > 
 > Benjamin and Anna Sher
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > Sher's Russian Web
 > http://www.websher.net

[expert] who command

[Wahid Belhaouane]

Hello every body !
I have a server which i installed Linux Mandrake 6.1.
when i use the who command or the top command
i notice that some users connected to the server are not listed.
Please help me
thanks.

Re: [expert] SO51a - saving & backup -- No go!

[Joachim Holst]

Hi !

> > installed it before, too, but this time /home is a separate partition,
> > while before it was part of the single / partition that Linux was
> > installed into.
> 
> I told you  did I not, that StarOffice 5.1 will not navigate over mount
> points. This would indicate that SO is not using the standard file system
> commands.   [which should be warning enough to stay away]

Will that say that a Network installation also will fail ??
Has ynybody tried this??

> 
> It also indicates that it was never tested by StarDivision or Sun
> Microsystems on an installation which is spread over many partitions.
> [as is recommended by many Linux devotees]

That's STUPID !!
Why don't we all tell them about it once ever day ??
That's a major bug in the release that MUST be fixed.

/Jocke!

[expert] SO51a - saving & bakup -- No go!

[Marion Krahn]

Hello, 
have you installed SO at first as root with the parameter /net and then
run setup from a user account?
Have your soffice-process root permissions (in order to write to every
partition)?
Have you forbidden, that somebody write to your home - parition/directory?

If there is any solution, please write!
Good luck
Marion

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Denis Havlik]

Hi again. 

SO saga goes on...

:~>> Could you elaborate on this? I have home-directories automounted and the
:~>> damn thing did not want to do a user-instalation for users whose dirs
:~>> reside on an older RH 5.x machine.
:~>
:~>When you say 'automounted' do you refer to the activities of the automount
:~>demon, or are you just simply telling me that your /etc/fstab entries cause
:~>those mounts automatically during booting?


I am refering to the "autofs". I have several machines here - most of them
with Mandrake 6.1, one still has RedHat 5.x on it. "home" is always
exported to a whole NIS group and mounted on request as "/homes/MACHINE".

StarOffice is installed everywhere (as /net install), and if I try the
"user instalation" it works as long as the users home directory is not
exported from the RedHat 5.x machine. 

:~>You seem to be doing some kind of user-installation involving two machines?

Yup


:~>The knfs restriction appears when eg root is trying to access a partition
:~>which is mounted on a remote machine. Navigation is stopped dead at the
:~>mount point on the remote machine.  This problem is easily overcome if
:~>the mount point is exported by the remote machine and connected to directly.

Umpf. I did not get this. OK. So I have a machine "A" and machine "B".

I am sitting in front of the machien "A", and trying to access /homes/B,
which is a autofs-mounted home directory from the "B" machine. Now what?

In my expirience, "navigating" over "/homes/" or "/homes/B" causes no
trouble at all. The problem I see is that I cannot even start StarOffice
if machine "B" is running some kind of Redhat 5.x system (2.0.? kernel).
 I can post you exact versions of all the relevant programs, if you think
that could be of any use... 

cu
Denis
-
Mag. Denis Havlik  
University of Vienna||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Austria(@ @)   tel: (++431) 4277/51179 
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[expert] SO51a - Partition problem?

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear Ron:

Thanks for writing. I think the partition issue is probably the key to
solving this problem, and I appreciate your comments.

I installed the SO binary in /home/sher, then su - to root, then back to
/home/sher/SO to untar the file. This created so51inst in /home/sher/SO.
I then switched back to user, back to /home/sher/SO/so51inst and
installed SO as user by typing the command ./setup. Everything went
smoothly. SO suggested the /home/sher/Office51 directory, which I
accepted. And that was that.

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ ls
Desktop  Office51  install.bin  nsmail   tik
LM   SOmozilla  prophet.txt  tik-0.74.tar.gz
Mail docs  netomat  runnetomat   wp80
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ cd SO
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$ ls
so51a_lnx_01.tar  so51inst
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 SO]$
 
 
So, what could be wrong? SO is installed in my home directory, as are
the docs (whether I use the SO default directory for docs and backups,
which is in /home/sherOffice51 or my own, that is, /home/sher/docs. Same
problem, either way.

By the way, WordPerfect won't write across partitions, either. Yet, I
have installed WordPerfect also in my /home/sher/wp80 directory and am
using it now while I try to figure out what's wrong with SO. No problem
with saving or backup in WP. So, why should I have a problem in SO?

If my installation is wrong, could you suggest how I could install so as
to solve this problem?

Thanks again.

Benjamin

Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net

[expert] Duplicate Icons

[Jim Adams]

I have tried the suggestion from LMUO for removing the duplicate icons after
upgrading KDE 1.1.1 -> 1.1.2. All to no avail. Any suggestions?
Cheers
Jim

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Tom Brinkman]

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> Dear friends:
> 
> I decided to try out Ramon's suggestion, just for the hell of it and
> register my downloaded SO51a. I had already registered it earlier. Just
> in case, I registered it again under a new user name and received a
> "Thank you. You are now registered" (or something to that effect)
> confirmation online. Well, it didn't do the trick. Tried to save a new
> document and got the same error message about permissions. So far, no
> luck.

> Benjamin

 I put my whole Mdk install '/' on one partition.  I have a 
large fat32 partition on the same drive (hdb).  Only two apps
are unwilling to retrieve/use/save files on anything but my Mdk
partition, NutScrape and SO51a.  All my other apps, mostly KDE
apps, have no problem working with other partitions/drives
regardless of the format (ext2/fat32).  

   I use SO because of it's ability to work with Office97 documents
including XL's, but I have to move them to SO's (anywhere on '/')
partition to do so.  I suspect your problem is similar Ben.  Have
you tried creating/saving SO doc's in it's partition?  On a related
note, I couldn't get SO to use my M$ TT fonts, till I copied the
ones I wanted to my '/' partition.

-- 
..  Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]  .

Re: [expert] SO51a - saving & backup -- No go!

[Ron Stodden]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, B Sher wrote:

> Unfortunately, none has yet really figured it out.

Room for doubt on that one!

> There is one variable that has changed in this picture: In this last
> installation of Mandrake 6.1 from my PowerPack CD, I added a separate
> /home partition and installed StarOffice in /home/sher. This is where I
> installed it before, too, but this time /home is a separate partition,
> while before it was part of the single / partition that Linux was
> installed into. 

I told you  did I not, that StarOffice 5.1 will not navigate over mount
points. This would indicate that SO is not using the standard file system 
commands.   [which should be warning enough to stay away]

It also indicates that it was never tested by StarDivision or Sun
Microsystems on an installation which is spread over many partitions. 
[as is recommended by many Linux devotees]

 -- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Ron Stodden]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Denis Havlik wrote:
 
> Could you elaborate on this? I have home-directories automounted and the
> damn thing did not want to do a user-instalation for users whose dirs
> reside on an older RH 5.x machine.

When you say 'automounted' do you refer to the activities of the automount
demon, or are you just simply telling me that your /etc/fstab entries cause
those mounts automatically during booting?

You seem to be doing some kind of user-installation involving two machines?

The knfs restriction appears when eg root is trying to access a partition
which is mounted on a remote machine. Navigation is stopped dead at the
mount point on the remote machine.  This problem is easily overcome if
the mount point is exported by the remote machine and connected to directly.

 -- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.

[expert] SO51a - saving & backup -- No go!

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear friends:

First, my thanks to all of you who have written in with your
suggestions. Unfortunately, none has yet really figured it out.

Here is another piece of the puzzle:

I installed and USED StarOffice 51 before several times, although as a
back. At the time my default word processor was WordPerfect 8 for Linux.
Now I have decided to reverse the situation and use StarOffice as my
preferred word processor and  WP as a backup.

At any rate, I do not recall having any saving or backup problems in the
past when I did use StarOffice, although I can't quite recall the
specifics. But I am pretty sure I never had a problem with saving or
backup in SO51.

There is one variable that has changed in this picture: In this last
installation of Mandrake 6.1 from my PowerPack CD, I added a separate
/home partition and installed StarOffice in /home/sher. This is where I
installed it before, too, but this time /home is a separate partition,
while before it was part of the single / partition that Linux was
installed into. In other words, I used to have / (hda1), a swap
partition and /bs (hdb1). Now I have / (hda1, /home (hda3 and /bs
(hdb1). Could this have anything to do with it? Everything is working
fine, including StarOffice itself, apparently, except for this saving
and backup problem. 

Here is some more data:

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda1/ ext2defaults1
1
/dev/hda3/home ext2defaults1
2
/dev/hda5swap  swapdefaults0
0
/dev/hdb1/bs   ext2defaults1
3
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy autosync,user,noauto,nosuid,nodev,unhide  0
0
/dev/cdrom   /mnt/cdrom  autouser,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev,ro  0
0
/dev/sda /mnt/zipautonoauto0
0
none /proc   procdefaults  0
0
none /dev/ptsdevpts  mode=0622 0
0
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ 

[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$ df
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 2.6G  1.4G  1.1G  56% /
/dev/hda3 1.2G  466M  657M  41% /home
/dev/hdb1 2.9G  423M  2.3G  15% /bs
[sher@adsl-77-232-182 sher]$
   

Once again, all my thanks.

Benjamin

Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net

[expert] DOOM & Quake2

[Philippe Coatmeur]

Hi, just a little one about DOOM & Quake2...

(please forgive my baad english)

When running doom => /usr/games/rundoom in console mode, it seems to
work w/ sound & everything, only the display is stretched in vertical
color lines, letting show "behind" it the familiar DOOM graphic
elements...
Fortunately it quits with a ctrl-c, but I wonder what gives...
I have a new RIVA TNT enabled server, but I don't think that's the
reason...
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdoom simply segfaults, core-dumping... This one *never*
worked...

About Quake, it starts OK, but hangs after "could'nt load
pics/colormap.pcx", and this file is nowhere to be found...

its the quake2-3.20 RPM, and a verification shows that
-1- the archive is clean
-2- there is *no* colormap file...

Please help me as my daughter says I will *never* run good games under
Linux, and I want to prove her wrong ;-)

Thank you all !
--
<-
  Philippe Coatmeur
   GameSpot France
   Ziff-Davis, Inc.
->

Re: [expert] Can't save or backup in SO51a -- footnote

[Denis Havlik]

:~>> I do not understand this.
:~>> My StarOffice 5.1 on Mandrake 6.1 allows me to use it up arrow
:~>> navigation aid to go to any one of the directory entries
:~>> that I get when I issue a mount command.
:~>> There must be something wrong with your installation.
:~>
:~>No.  I am using the new kernel-based nfs (knfs).  This limitation of knfs is
:~>well documented.

Could you elaborate on this? I have home-directories automounted and the
damn thing did not want to do a user-instalation for users whose dirs
reside on an older RH 5.x machine.

Denis
-
Mag. Denis Havlik  
University of Vienna||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Austria(@ @)   tel: (++431) 4277/51179 
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