Re: [expert] More fonts

2000-04-06 Thread Tom Berkley

Depends on your screen resolution. The 100 dpi fonts work well with
1280x1024 and the 75 dpi fonts work best with 1024x768. Other rez I have
not played with.

Tom

Pat Mc wrote:
 
 In my quest to improve my system and Netscape  fonts I found something
 interesting. The 100dpi and 75dpi fonts were installed in a zip format.
 Looking in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi and /75dpi all files end in
 .gz. I thought this to be strange so I experimented. Backed up the
 entire font dir and the expanded all the compressed files. This made
 Netscape look 100% better and improved some system fonts but made others
 worse.
 
 So what gives. Should the font files be ziped ?
 
 BTW this is Mandake 6.1 w/KDE
 
 Pat



Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


With regard to home directories, I've found it most useful to have
seperate /home partitions that hold all the config files and all that,
and a /home2 partition, which can be shared.

On this partition each user gets another directory that they own, and
then they can put "big" stuff that will be the same for each
distribution (like multimedia files, for instance) in their /home2 area
and make a symlink from /home to there.

It works for me; YMMV.

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Re: [expert] Problems with Intel Netport Printserver and Samba

2000-04-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


Well, to ask the obvious . . .

You did delete the old "local" printers from the Windows machine(s) and
re-install them as "network" printers, right?

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
| On 5 Apr 00, at 15:10, Stephen Bosch wrote:
| 
|  Tell me - has the print server itself been configured properly? Print
|  servers usually have eeproms which need to be configured, and usually this can
|  only be done through a Windows or DOS app that is provided with the server.
| 
| no its not that kind of print server, it has a built in webserver and telnet 
| access, it can also be configured via supplied software that either runs on 
| windows and interacts via tcp/ip, netbios or java. It can also be configured 
| from *nix using some native nix software. It works fine printing from linux, 
| the problem is that printing via samba no longer works since I moved the 
| printers off the local server onto the intel printserver.
|  
| 
| 
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Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Civileme

Lane Lester wrote:

HUGE SNIP

 
 /sbin/askrunlevel

That is a SYMLINK to /bin/linuxconf *

WHat is the output of 

cat /var/run/runlevel.dir



Civileme



Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested

2000-04-06 Thread Civileme

Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried out Netscape 6 pr1 yet?  If so, please share.
 
 Seve


Wrapped around istelf shortly after initialization with a window
leak


VEry slow to resize windows but will take fonts readily

Makes the linux-mandrake page look ugly and muddy till you
override their OCR-B-like fonts

I have a marginal computer to use it on to exacerbate problems.

DOES NOT (thank whoever--prolly the Mozilla team) use glibc2.0 
Yay

Has a sidebar I hate

Has a non-functional link to AOL Instant messenger 
(Whp!_)

Has a channel thingie you can click  (I didn't)

Has a shopping thingie that is probably as brain-dead as the
channel thingie.

Overall I hated it, but I like it a lot better than 4.70-4.72 and
after the initial window leak has given no trouble.  I can run
StarOffice at the same time on a slow 64M memory machine without
getting a disk-whacking virtual lockup.

Civileme

P. S.  Will have to rewrite my script, but maybe I won't need
it.  This one seems meek after twisting the tail of a wild boar
for 2 years.



Re: [expert] KDE - Strange Problem

2000-04-06 Thread Thomas McLaughlin

I had a similar problem with a previous install, it ocuured oddly enough after
I had repositioned the swap space to a different area of the drive from
before and was gone after I moved the swap back to the end of the drive.  I
have a 4.3gig hard drive broken up into partitions like this (give or take):

/boot 15M
/root 350M
/home 660M
/usr 1555M
/usr/local 1050M
swap 128M

I tried previously to move swap in between home and usr I think it was, and
that's when I developed problems.  I moved the swap back to the end of the disk
and haven't had a hang or lock since.  I think the Partitioning how-to might be
able to explain it.  I'm not sure if the swap space was split in between
platters causing the head to have to read all the way to the end of first
platter and then move back to the beginning of the second inorder to complete
the swapping.  Whatever it was, what's your partitioning scheme as well as the
size and geometry of the disk.  Also take a look at the partitioning how-to
which my be able to give you some idea on the whole concept of partition
physics.

Second, what time is it doing this?  I think at 3 or 4 the slocate crontab runs
which makes a database of all the files on the drive, I don't think that would
be large enough to really hang the system but take a look at what's going on at
the time.  When slocate had to database my entire windows drive though, it did
take a while and did slow up slightly.

Just some possible suggestions.
Tom

On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, you wrote:
  I have 64Megs of RAM and 128Megs of swap.
  
 Ok. As long as you've got at least a PII that should be
 sufficient...
   John



Re: [expert] gnucash

2000-04-06 Thread Rial Juan


mhh... Forgot early versions of DirectX then? A higher version of DirectX always
got overwritten by a lower version, if you installed a game that shipped with a
lower version than the one curently installed on the system. And the fun part
was: it always asked you if you wanted to overwrite the current version before
it did, but never ever did anything usefull with that info. "Do you want to
overwrite your current version of DirectX? [y/n]" -- n -- "Installing DirectX
now..."

But you're right; it is damn annoying. I believe it's because sometimes a higher
version of some library in linux discontinues support for functions included in
an earlier version, and therefore using the "at least" numbering interfere with 
the proper compilation of your code.

But then again; I've been up all night, and I'm just theorizing about
this. Probably nothing I say right now makes sense, and it's a much more
sophisticated plot involving martian invaders, custard pie and 3 cups of hot
water. ;)


On Apr 5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 .. . . this trick almost always works fine when going in this direction.
 
 (ln -s lib.so.new lib.so.old)
 
 I don't know why packages check for particular numbers rather than
 checking for "at least" this number, which would make a lot more sense.
 It's rather annoying.  (And one thing that Windows apps usually don't
 suffer from!)
 
 

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Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested

2000-04-06 Thread Civileme

Craig Woods wrote:
 
 Are you using a Linux version of this browser, and if so, where did you find
 that little hummer?
 Thanks,
 Craig
 

I am using a linux version.  I downloaded it from the AOL 
(err... Netscape) site. 

ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub, etc which you can find at
www.netscape.com.  The only problem is the "slashdot effect" ... 
Many many downloads going and connection reset by peer.  I cured
that with Web DOwnloader for X which you can find at

www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo

And I hammered away for an hour over a DSL connection to bring in
the 10Mb or so  (Mozilla M14 was only 6 , the other 4 must be
Shopping, Channels, sidebar, and AOL IM Chat).  They managed to
slow M14 considerably by adding a newsfeed in the sidebar which I
collapsed without being able to kill the newsfeed.

CIvileme



RE: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Bill Shirley

I would suggest using the Ranish Partition Manager.  It is also a mutiple
boot loader.  And  it's free!

http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/

Hope this helps,
Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kirk McElhearn
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:22 AM
Subject: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?


I am getting a new 20 gig HD this week, to add to my 4.3 gig HD.  I would
like to have Windoze on the 4.3, and use the 20 for multiple Linux
distributions (for testing and writing purposes).  Can this be done?  Can
I , say, have five 4 gig partitions, and put a different Linux on each
one?  If so, is there any special things to know when installing?  I
would ideally not want to use Lilo, but use a boot floppy for each
different distribution.  Will this work?

Thanks,

Kirk



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Re: [expert] Wild Netscape Hunter-Killer

2000-04-06 Thread Rial Juan

On Apr 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 # Once the pid of a running netscape process is discovered, then
 top 
 # is started, with output to /tmp/.netshk and killed by killall
 after
 # after 3 seconds

So if I'm getting this correct, "top" is launched, and killed by "killall" 3
seconds later.

Suggestion: start top like this: "top bn1"

b = batch mode
n = number of iterations
1 = self-explanatory ;-)

This output can also be redirected; there's no 3-second delay, and it's a bit
more elegant.

Have fun hunting netscapes, and be sure to send me a skin when you kill one; I'm
in desperate need of a new rug ;-)


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Re: [expert] gnucash

2000-04-06 Thread Alan Shoemaker

tboldtbefore you went to all of that trouble, did you try
cbb?  It's already installed on your system if you didn't
deselect it durring installation.

Alan


tboldt wrote:
 
 I am attempting to switch totally from OS/2-Windows to Linux. I am
 almost there. I have ported my applications that I use consistently. The
 
 only application I have yet to obtain for Linux is a replacement for my
 checkbook, financial application. I have decided to try gnucash and
 donwloaded the latest version 1.3.4 and the support package guile,
 1.3.4.
 
 My problem - when I attempt to install gnucash with kpackage, it will
 not install due to a failed dependency:
 
 libguile.so.4
 
 I have examined the guile packages included with the mandrake version I
 have (7.0-2 (Air)), no libguile.so.4. There are other libs, but not
 '.4'. The guile package I downloaded from the gnucash site also did not
 contain the '.4' lib.
 
 Does anyone know where I can obtain this lib??  Or maybe this is a
 false error message from kpackage.
 
 Has anyone else installed gnucash under Mandrake Linux??? if so, how???



[expert] OT: Game Developers

2000-04-06 Thread Pj

Does anyone remember the old DOS version of Shanghai Dragon's Eye? 
It was a very advanced version of Maj Jongg with animated tiles,
championship matches and the ability to create your own layout among
other things. 

This company has since gone on to Internet games, however they are
willing to talk about licensing DE with a company that can develop it
for Linux users. 

I have the contact name if there is interest. If the same game were
available for Linux I'd buy it in a second. 

Pj
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Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Pj

I didn't see any support for Linux partitions, but then I did not read
the 'primer'.

Pj 

Bill Shirley wrote:
 
I would suggest using the Ranish Partition Manager.  It is also a
mutiple boot loader.  And  it's free!
http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/

Hope this helps,
Bill



Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Kirk McElhearn

On 6/04/00 7:21, Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to have 
said:

See what I mean?

I think I get it.  But how do I actually go about making the partitions?  
When I install Mandrake, I get a partitioner.  Do I do it all at that 
time?  (I am planning to do a clean Mandrake install as the first OS on 
the new disk.)  Or do I need to partition the HD before installing 
anything?

Can I run diskDrake from the current Mandrake installation (on the older 
HD) to partition the new disk?

Kirk



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[expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Glyn Millington

This is an old question but for me its a new machine.  

It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)

On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
I have 23MB ram.  I've added
append =  "mem=32m" 
to lilo.conf with no effect.
Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
Is Linux not detecting the RAM?
Is it discounting space used by the kernel?

I've trawled the docs but couldn't find any clues.

TIA

Glyn M.
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Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Dan Westlake

Hi Glyn

Change it to append ="mem=32M" then type lilo enter to run the change and
reboot.

- Original Message -

 This is an old question but for me its a new machine.

 It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)

 On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
 I have 23MB ram.  I've added
 append =  "mem=32m"
 to lilo.conf with no effect.
 Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
 Is Linux not detecting the RAM?
 Is it discounting space used by the kernel?

 I've trawled the docs but couldn't find any clues.

 TIA

 Glyn M.
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[expert] Sendmail

2000-04-06 Thread Deim goston

HI !

I have a little LAN at home where my Linux is the "mail-server". Or 
it should be. What should I do that the sendmail send all of the 
qued mails when I'm connected to the inet via PPP ? Is the 
"sendmail -q" line sufficient ? (Written into the ip-up or ip-up.local 
file). And what happens when I'm connected and sending mail from 
one host ? Does the sendmail deliver it immediatelly to my ISP ?
Thanx,
Ago

"If you love somebody set them free..."
Sting is GPL fan :-))
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Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Lane Lester

Brian T. Schellenberger said:
  I believe that the reason you get a totally blank screen when you just
  do a startx is because you have an empty .xinitrc.
  
  Since you have a .xinitrc the system one dosn't run 'cause it thinks
  you want to replace it with your own, but yours doesn't do anything.
  
  Thus a plain gray screen.
  
  Try deleting it and then do a startx.

Many, many thanks to you and Civileme and others for sticking with this
investigation. It looks like the above finally did the trick. Deleting
(well, actually renaming) the .xinitrc and taking out
"x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon" from the bottom of inittab
allowed the boot to stop at the console screen and for "startx" to
operate without crashing back to the console.

Interestingly, now that I've done a startx, the window manager that is
running is KDE, not my preferred and previous IceWM. I think I can find
where that is going on and make the change.
-- 
Lane

Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
Using Linux to get where I want to go...




Re: [expert] Multiple VGA Cards = Multiple X sessions ?

2000-04-06 Thread Christopher Cox

 
 Well, so the hardware allows you to have several _screens_.
 
 Now, what about input ? Several mouses are supported too, 
 but AFAIK you can't have several keyboards in a PC, and each
 X server probably needs one ...
 

Thanks for your concern Jean, but I only need to display some real-time
data. While X has hooks for input, I do not think it is a necessity.

Regards

Christopher Cox



Re: [expert] Multiple VGA Cards = Multiple X sessions ?

2000-04-06 Thread Christopher Cox

 
 
 Not sure, but "multihead support" in XFree 4.0 perhaps? Or is it for
dual-head
 matrox cards only?
 

Hello Rial,

It would appear you and Marcos are on to something. I see where the
Xfree86-4 drivers can be designated PCI slots. This looks encouraging.

Regards

Christopher Cox



Re: [expert] Multiple VGA Cards = Multiple X sessions ?

2000-04-06 Thread Christopher Cox

 
  Since PlugPray allows for multiple PCI VGA boards
  Is there a way to start multiple X servers against multiple PCI VGA
boards?
 
   er... nop and yes... er.. only with xfree4 and having TOO much
 luck! see www.xfree.org for more info. No, I hadn't set up such thing...
 yet.
 

LOL...

Thanks for the Xfree86 Version 4 clue. It looks like it just might do it!

Thanks Marcos

Christopher Cox



RE: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread fred . deklein

Hve you restarted Lilo???

Regards
 
Fred de Klein
 
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-Original Message-
From: Glyn Millington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 April 2000 09:49
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut


This is an old question but for me its a new machine.  

It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)

On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
I have 23MB ram.  I've added
append =  "mem=32m" 
to lilo.conf with no effect.
Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
Is Linux not detecting the RAM?
Is it discounting space used by the kernel?

I've trawled the docs but couldn't find any clues.

TIA

Glyn M.
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Re: [expert] Sendmail

2000-04-06 Thread Marcos Dione

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Deim_Ágoston?= wrote:

 HI !
 
 I have a little LAN at home where my Linux is the "mail-server". Or 
 it should be. What should I do that the sendmail send all of the 
 qued mails when I'm connected to the inet via PPP ? Is the 
 "sendmail -q" line sufficient ? (Written into the ip-up or ip-up.local 
 file). And what happens when I'm connected and sending mail from 
 one host ? Does the sendmail deliver it immediatelly to my ISP ?
 Thanx,
 Ago

I would advise the use of a proper tool for this kinda thing...
sendmail is not prepared to be offline unless you use uucp, which is not
an easy thing to set up (at least, people who had set ip up had told me
so). Instead, I used MasqMail (search it in www.freshmeat.net). It's very
easy to setup (took me 10 minutes after reading the short docs) and has
the hability to change the From: part of the mail so they point to a
reachable e-mail account you may have. Give it a try, it won't dissapoint
you...

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las hace dificil de encender"
"Do not dump butts in the wc. They dampen and it makes
them difficult to light."
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Re: [expert] intel 810/820/840 chipsets

2000-04-06 Thread Marcos Dione


yes... you can buy the oss drivers (just $20; www.opensound.com)
and it will go smooth!

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Re: [expert] gnucash

2000-04-06 Thread Charles Curley

On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 07:11:13PM -0400, tboldt wrote:
- I am attempting to switch totally from OS/2-Windows to Linux. I am
- almost there. I have ported my applications that I use consistently. The
- 
- only application I have yet to obtain for Linux is a replacement for my
- checkbook, financial application. I have decided to try gnucash and
- donwloaded the latest version 1.3.4 and the support package guile,
- 1.3.4.
- 
- My problem - when I attempt to install gnucash with kpackage, it will
- not install due to a failed dependency:
- 
- libguile.so.4
- 
- I have examined the guile packages included with the mandrake version I
- have (7.0-2 (Air)), no libguile.so.4. There are other libs, but not
- '.4'. The guile package I downloaded from the gnucash site also did not
- contain the '.4' lib.
- 
- Does anyone know where I can obtain this lib??  Or maybe this is a
- false error message from kpackage.
- 
- Has anyone else installed gnucash under Mandrake Linux??? if so, how???
- 
- 


I've done fairly well with CBB, It is on the Mandrake 6.1 CDs, but I had
problems with that cophy, so I just installed from the tar file. It is
working quite well now.

http://cbb.sourceforge.net/

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[expert] cron problem.

2000-04-06 Thread Dan Owens


I recently changed from Suse 6.2 to Mandrake 7.0 (and it is quite cool), with
a fresh install, and now have an odd cron problem.  My crontab has this in it:

30 22 * * * /root/backup

and /root/backup is this:

#!/bin/bash

cd /pub
tar cvzf mtn.tar.gz /home/mtn /pub/redmeadow /home/support /etc

The problem is this: backup works fine from a command line, producing a 170Mg
file, but when run by cron it quits after about 56K.  I even changed the time it
was run with the same results.  It worked fine under Suse.

Any ideas?  Could cron be limiting the time the process runs?


-- 

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RE: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Bill Shirley

Ranish Partition Manager does support Linux partitions.  I like the text
based boot manager best. It allows you to type the number of the partition
to boot or type zero to go directly into the partition manager.  Pretty easy
to use, also.  Just remember, when resizing a partition, to use the + and -
keys; it's easier that way.  It will copy data from  one partition to
another.  I believe it will boot partitions above the 1024 cyl. line. It has
instructions for booting Win9x and NT above the 1024 cyl. line.

If you're doing an install to a clean hard disk, I recommend downloading
Ranish,
unzipping to a floppy, booting the floppy, and configuring the boot manager
(text based)
in the space right after the Master Boot Record (uses about 500K) which is
usually unused
because all fdisk programs (MS and Linux) like to align partitions on a
cylinder boundary.
After installing the boot manager, you can use Ranish, DiskDrake, or any
other program to
define your Linux partitions.  You won't need lilo at all.

It should be easy enough to investigate now.  I think you will find it very
useful.  And
if you're hard disk is still clean, it won't be so scary to experiment with
it.

Hope this helps,
Bill


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pj
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?


I didn't see any support for Linux partitions, but then I did not read
the 'primer'.

Pj

Bill Shirley wrote:

I would suggest using the Ranish Partition Manager.  It is also a
mutiple boot loader.  And  it's free!
http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/

Hope this helps,
Bill




Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Glyn Millington


Wow!  I tried this and it threw my kernel into a panic - had to
dig out the rescue disk etc.  My first real emergency!

I'm only guessing - is the kernel using up 9 MB? and panics when
not allowed that space?
All explantions welcome!

TIA

Glyn





On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 06:48:11AM -0400, thus spake Dan Westlake:
 Hi Glyn
 
 Change it to append ="mem=32M" then type lilo enter to run the change and
 reboot.
 
  It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)
 
  On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
  I have 23MB ram.  I've added
  append =  "mem=32m"
  to lilo.conf with no effect.
  Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
  Is Linux not detecting the RAM?
  Is it discounting space used by the kernel?
 
  I've trawled the docs but couldn't find any clues.
 
  TIA
 
  Glyn M.
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Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:48 +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
 This is an old question but for me its a new machine.  
 
 It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)
 
 On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
 I have 23MB ram.  I've added
 append =  "mem=32m" 
 to lilo.conf with no effect.

Try Dan's advice (mem=32M, run /sbin/lilo after change). If that
is not the solution then look at your graphics board. Does it
have all it's memory on the board or does it use a part of RAM?
Some graphics boards use 8 or 16M of the system's memory so you
have to substract that amount from RAM.

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Re: [expert] Multiple VGA Cards = Multiple X sessions ?

2000-04-06 Thread Charles Curley

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:19:13AM -0400, Christopher Cox wrote:
-  
-  Well, so the hardware allows you to have several _screens_.
-  
-  Now, what about input ? Several mouses are supported too, 
-  but AFAIK you can't have several keyboards in a PC, and each
-  X server probably needs one ...
-  
- 
- Thanks for your concern Jean, but I only need to display some real-time
- data. While X has hooks for input, I do not think it is a necessity.

Then you may want to look at a multi-headed display instead of multiple
servers. A multiheaded display merges several physical displays into one
logical one. As you move the rodent around, the pointer goes from display
to display. Windows can show up on one or several displays, etc.

metro X has had multi-headed display capability for the Matrox Millenium
card for years; they may have extended the list of supported
cards. Xfree86 may now include multi-headed displays, I haven't checked.

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Re: [expert] Sendmail

2000-04-06 Thread Charles Curley

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:53:10PM +0200, Deim Agoston wrote:
- HI !
- 
- I have a little LAN at home where my Linux is the "mail-server". Or 
- it should be. What should I do that the sendmail send all of the 
- qued mails when I'm connected to the inet via PPP ? Is the 
- "sendmail -q" line sufficient ? (Written into the ip-up or ip-up.local 
- file). And what happens when I'm connected and sending mail from 
- one host ? Does the sendmail deliver it immediatelly to my ISP ?
- Thanx,
- Ago

You shouldn't have to do anything. If sendmail is running as a daemon, it
will try from time to time and eventually suceed. You will have messages
from sendmail complaining that it could not deliver message X for the last
four hours. Other than that minor annoyance, you should be all set up.


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[expert] LT Winmodem

2000-04-06 Thread Carter B. Bennett

Hi all,
I was watching ZDTV the other night and Leo said that the new 7.0 Mandrake
supported the LT Winmodem. I thought that was cool but didn't find anything on
the web site, is there any truth to this, or is Leo just jerkin my yang?

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Re: [expert] Install on laptop Toshiba Portégé 3110CT

2000-04-06 Thread Marcos Dione

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Bois, Mathieu wrote:

 When I try to install Mandrake 7.0R2 or RedHat 6.2, it says it needs a
 floppy disk with PCMCIA drivers...

er... have you tried the pcmcia.img boot floppy? the cd boots the
cdrom.img boot floppy, which has no (or too poor) pcmcia support...

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RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Russ Johnson

For what it's worth, you'll need the line in inittab for X to start in
runlevel 5. If you start in runlevel 3, that line is never run, so it's not
part of the problem.

Russ

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart


Brian T. Schellenberger said:
  I believe that the reason you get a totally blank screen when you just
  do a startx is because you have an empty .xinitrc.

  Since you have a .xinitrc the system one dosn't run 'cause it thinks
  you want to replace it with your own, but yours doesn't do anything.

  Thus a plain gray screen.

  Try deleting it and then do a startx.

Many, many thanks to you and Civileme and others for sticking with this
investigation. It looks like the above finally did the trick. Deleting
(well, actually renaming) the .xinitrc and taking out
"x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon" from the bottom of inittab
allowed the boot to stop at the console screen and for "startx" to
operate without crashing back to the console.

Interestingly, now that I've done a startx, the window manager that is
running is KDE, not my preferred and previous IceWM. I think I can find
where that is going on and make the change.
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Re: [expert] Multiple VGA Cards = Multiple X sessions ?

2000-04-06 Thread Rial Juan


Not even when using let's say multiple USB keyboards? Or one regular keyboard,
and a ps-2 one? Or any mixture of regular/ps2/usb keyboards?

I believe this was already discussed on the linux kernel list (not sure, but I
heard a friend talk about it who's subscribed), so in theory it should be
possible. I don't know how far the implementation of this stuff has evolved
though.


On Apr 6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Christopher Cox wrote:
  Since PlugPray allows for multiple PCI VGA boards
  Is there a way to start multiple X servers against multiple PCI VGA boards?
 
 Well, so the hardware allows you to have several _screens_.
 
 Now, what about input ? Several mouses are supported too, 
 but AFAIK you can't have several keyboards in a PC, and each
 X server probably needs one ...
 
 

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Re: [expert] Problems with Intel Netport Printserver and Samba

2000-04-06 Thread Harondel J. Sibble

Yes of course, all the "obvious" stuff has been done!  ; - )

On 6 Apr 00, at 2:05, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:

 
 Well, to ask the obvious . . .
 You did delete the old "local" printers from the Windows machine(s) and
 re-install them as "network" printers, right?


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[expert] installing from hd that has a dir mounted to cdrom ????

2000-04-06 Thread Orkunt Sabuncu

Is this possible? I mean how can i do this i hope it is but i couldnt.

In more detail, I want to boot with an image file ( possibly hd.img) and 
select a hd partition ( this can include the minimum requirement of the 
Mandrake/ directory tree ex: all the dirs - base, instimage, mdkinst, RPMS 
but empty RPMS) then mount my cdrom and link the RPMS directory in the hd 
partition to RPMS dir in the CDROM( by ln -s ...) and go on the 
installation.

I crashed at the linking stage. In order to come there i made a node node 
/dev/hdc in order to mount my CDROM , copied real executable of mount 
because the mount in the hd.img is nothing but a perl script and doesnt 
work, and of course u should insmod isofs before mounting.

The images for Mandrake installation are too restrictive , thats too bad i 
think :(

If u can have a idea for installing from a directory ( it can be in hd or 
mounted to cdrom /Mandrake dir) please tell me.. cdrom.img chouldnt identify 
my mandrake cdrom .. thats way i am doing these tricks... Please dont say 
burn a new iso image because i cant do it now and i want to do exactly the 
above scenerio or something like it...

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Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Glyn Millington

That's it - the graphics board uses 8MB.  Thanks for this; glad I
don't need to play with Lilo any more!

TVM

Glyn M.



On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:32:29PM +0200, thus spake Wolfgang Bornath:
 On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:48 +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
  This is an old question but for me its a new machine.  
  
  It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)
  
  On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
  I have 23MB ram.  I've added
  append =  "mem=32m" 
  to lilo.conf with no effect.
 
 Try Dan's advice (mem=32M, run /sbin/lilo after change). If that
 is not the solution then look at your graphics board. Does it
 have all it's memory on the board or does it use a part of RAM?
 Some graphics boards use 8 or 16M of the system's memory so you
 have to substract that amount from RAM.
 
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Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested

2000-04-06 Thread vern

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:

 
 And I hammered away for an hour over a DSL connection to bring in
 the 10Mb or so  (Mozilla M14 was only 6 , the other 4 must be
 Shopping, Channels, sidebar, and AOL IM Chat).  They managed to
 slow M14 considerably by adding a newsfeed in the sidebar which I
 collapsed without being able to kill the newsfeed.
 
 CIvileme

Sounds like I need M14 if it's stable enough for a newbie to use!
Maybe the fonts are better than Net 4.7 which I use now.
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Re: [expert] Sendmail

2000-04-06 Thread Marcos Dione

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Charles Curley wrote:

 You shouldn't have to do anything. If sendmail is running as a daemon, it
 will try from time to time and eventually suceed. You will have messages
 from sendmail complaining that it could not deliver message X for the last
 four hours. Other than that minor annoyance, you should be all set up.

yes, but if you don't configure sendmail and you don't connect
within 5 days, you'll get the sent mails kicked back and sendmail
complaining "I cannot deliver this. the server must be down" or something
the like... and it's some difficult to masquerade From: 's... 

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Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Civileme

Glyn Millington wrote:
 
 Wow!  I tried this and it threw 


The kernel footprint is about 500K.  This is not windows where it runs 
about 4Mb (at least for NT)

A kernel panic when?  When you ran LILO?  When you rebooted as well or 
just when you rebooted?

What does your BIOS say when it tests memory at the opening screen?  
This sounds suspiciously like a memory problem.    The kernel normally 
accepts the amount of memory reported by the BIOS, and the append is to 
workaround BIOSes that fail to report all of it, but almost always this 
is upwards of 64M or 15 or 14M depending on whether the "hole" from 
15-16M is activated in the BIOS.

Civileme





Re: [expert] Problems with Intel Netport Printserver and Samba

2000-04-06 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

"Harondel J. Sibble" wrote:

 On 5 Apr 00, at 15:10, Stephen Bosch wrote:

  Tell me - has the print server itself been configured properly? Print
  servers usually have eeproms which need to be configured, and usually this can
  only be done through a Windows or DOS app that is provided with the server.

 no its not that kind of print server, it has a built in webserver and telnet
 access, it can also be configured via supplied software that either runs on
 windows and interacts via tcp/ip, netbios or java. It can also be configured
 from *nix using some native nix software. It works fine printing from linux -

How? Over Samba?

 the problem is that printing via samba no longer works since I moved the
 printers off the local server onto the intel printserver.

Though the mode of configuration is different, I still think the problem is the
same -- the print server itself has not yet been set up for SMB support. It needs a
NetBIOS name, or it won't appear to Windows clients (I have seen this problem
before).

What was the model number of the printserver again?

-Stephen-





Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


A guess:  8Meg for video ram (no seperate video memory) + 1Meg for the
640k "regular" memory.  (Thank you, Bill.)

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
| Wow!  I tried this and it threw my kernel into a panic - had to
| dig out the rescue disk etc.  My first real emergency!
| 
| I'm only guessing - is the kernel using up 9 MB? and panics when
| not allowed that space?
| All explantions welcome!
| 
| TIA
| 
| Glyn
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
| On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 06:48:11AM -0400, thus spake Dan Westlake:
|  Hi Glyn
|  
|  Change it to append ="mem=32M" then type lilo enter to run the change and
|  reboot.
|  
|   It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)
|  
|   On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
|   I have 23MB ram.  I've added
|   append =  "mem=32m"
|   to lilo.conf with no effect.
|   Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
|   Is Linux not detecting the RAM?
|   Is it discounting space used by the kernel?
|  
|   I've trawled the docs but couldn't find any clues.
|  
|   TIA
|  
|   Glyn M.
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Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


Sure.  Whatever.

You can create 'em ahead of time,
create 'em on the first install, or
create 'em as you go (just leave the end of the disk un-paritioned on
the first install).

IF you have the 1024-cylindar problem, though, you'll have to create
all the /boot paritions on the first install.

I'd probably FIRST do a test install on the disk where I had a dummy
empty partition 1050 cylindars large, and install into / for the rest
of the disk, with default options.

If this one boots, then you know you don't have to worry about the 1024
limit; if it fails, then you do.

THEN proceed with either the simple approach or the complex one,
depending on whether you have the 1024 problem or not.

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
| On 6/04/00 7:21, Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported to have 
| said:
| 
| See what I mean?
| 
| I think I get it.  But how do I actually go about making the partitions?  
| When I install Mandrake, I get a partitioner.  Do I do it all at that 
| time?  (I am planning to do a clean Mandrake install as the first OS on 
| the new disk.)  Or do I need to partition the HD before installing 
| anything?
| 
| Can I run diskDrake from the current Mandrake installation (on the older 
| HD) to partition the new disk?
| 
| Kirk
| 
| 
| 
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Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 
 Well, I'm running 7.0.2, so I don't know if there are any updates. I guess I
 could install the initscripts and wipe out any customizing I've done, if you
 think it's a good idea. Unless the name of the file is initscripts.rpm, I might
 need some help identifying it. 
 
Hmm...I coulda sworn there was another person with similar
problems running 6.1. :-) In any event, you will find it
quite easily. It'll be
"initsricpts-some_version-number.rpm" Should be REALLY easy
to find.
And, yes, it wouldn't hurt to backup your initscripts, etc.
John



Re: [expert] LT Winmodem

2000-04-06 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

"Carter B. Bennett" wrote:

 Hi all,
 I was watching ZDTV the other night and Leo said that the new 7.0 Mandrake
 supported the LT Winmodem. I thought that was cool but didn't find anything on
 the web site, is there any truth to this, or is Leo just jerkin my yang?

I recall seeing something about LT Winmodem support at

www.linmodems.org

-Stephen





Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested

2000-04-06 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 Has anyone tried out Netscape 6 pr1 yet?  If so, please share.
 
Yes. I've got a K6-2 3xx here with 32 mb RAM and plenty of
drive space. I downloaded and extracted it. I started it up
and it really didn't do anything. Looked interesting, but
that's about it. YMMV, though...
John



Re: [expert] Any Sparc/Linux users out there

2000-04-06 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 I'm looking for any sort of help, or possibly alternate
 kernels (without PCI support) from somebody that
 runs Sparc/Linux
 
We've got a Sparc5 that wouldn't install Linux. RedHat (up
through 6.1) said it wasn't supported. We downloaded the
ISO for RedHat 6.2 and it installed fine, except we had to
use the "text expert" install. Unfortunately, I don't THINK
Mandrake supports this model (yet?)
John



Re: [expert] intel 810/820/840 chipsets

2000-04-06 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 
 No one in Australia can install Linux?
 Jeanette
 
The system is in San Francisco, I think, while the author
is in Sydney. :-)
John



[expert] syslog stopped working?

2000-04-06 Thread Bob Chin

After about 4 days of uptime, klogd stopped working.  I use ipchains and
ip masquerading and noticed that /var/log/messages stoppped logging
denied packets and other info like kernel: ip_masq_ftp OUT: got PASV.
After I restarted syslog, it started logging again.  Anyone experienced
this before.  I have since updated the sysklogd package from
MandrakeCooker to see if the problem goes away.  Thanks.




[expert] Mandrake Linux Certified

2000-04-06 Thread ArMiSiS AiEoLn

Ok what do i gota do to earn a certificate showing I am Mandrake LInux Certified

dave


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Re: [expert] LT Winmodem

2000-04-06 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 Hi all,
 I was watching ZDTV the other night and Leo said that the new 7.0 Mandrake
 supported the LT Winmodem. I thought that was cool but didn't find anything on
 the web site, is there any truth to this, or is Leo just jerkin my yang?
 
It *may* support SOME LT Winmodems. There are software
drivers out there for the LT Winmodems for use Under linux.
However, last time I checked, there were still in early
stages of development -- it would dial out and connect to
an ISP, but only just. And, IIRC, it wouldn't really
respond to the modem queries by the remote side. I'd forget
about it for now.
John



RE: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Russ Johnson

Is it possible you have one of those systems that "shares" the ram with the
video? In that case, you're motherboard is using 8 megs of ram for video,
leaving you 23 megs for the system.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glyn Millington
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:49 AM
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut


This is an old question but for me its a new machine.

It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)

On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
I have 23MB ram.  I've added
append =  "mem=32m"
to lilo.conf with no effect.
Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
Is Linux not detecting the RAM?
Is it discounting space used by the kernel?

I've trawled the docs but couldn't find any clues.

TIA

Glyn M.
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Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Bug Hunter



On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:

 
 A guess:  8Meg for video ram (no seperate video memory) + 1Meg for the
 640k "regular" memory.  (Thank you, Bill.)
 

  Actually (and I don't like Micro$oft), Bill didn't have much to do with
this.  IBM designed the PC with 10 times as much memory as the then 
current machines (the z80, CP/M crowd), and use the area from 640K to the
top, which was 1 megabyte, for video cards, BIOS, extra card bioses for
scsi controllers, etc.  MSDOS simply dealt with it.

  when Intel came out with the 286, it was really bad.  MSDOS did not
change to work with it (thanks, Bill).  Third parties adapted to it, and
M$ was brought along kicking and screaming. Windows started working with
it, and now we have Windows 2000.

  Note that versions of  Linux will run in as little as 4 megabytes, and
do something useful.  Not M$ products.

bug





[expert] RE: [expert] Install on laptop Toshiba Portégé 3110CT

2000-04-06 Thread Bois, Mathieu

 pcmcia.img boot floppy

Thank you all of you for your very useful answer !

I've done it and I've been able to initiate MDK7.0R2 installation,
but it didn't work from CDROM, so I did it from a copy done to local HD
(this kind of installation didn't wanted to work yesterday).
Now, LILO, MDK and Win98 work together (in perfect harmony ?).

I've been unable to do the RedHat 6.2 install whatever the method.
I'd have enjoyed to take a look a this new version... What a pity.

But I've now a working laptop, thank to you all, and I'll be able to
retry in a few days/weeks now that I know how to do it !

Best regards

Mathieu



Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Civileme wrote:

 Glyn Millington wrote:
 
  Wow!  I tried this and it threw

 The kernel footprint is about 500K.  This is not windows where it runs
 about 4Mb (at least for NT)

SNIP

As it turned out, he had a motherboard that shared system memory with the
onboard video. Linux puked because he used LILO to report more available
memory than actually existed.

-Stephen-





Re: [expert] LT Winmodem

2000-04-06 Thread Warren Doney

Well mine works with 7.0
found the driver @ www.linmodems.org tho...

-WBD
- Original Message -
From: "Carter B. Bennett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 2:49 AM
Subject: [expert] LT Winmodem


 Hi all,
 I was watching ZDTV the other night and Leo said that the new 7.0 Mandrake
 supported the LT Winmodem. I thought that was cool but didn't find
anything on
 the web site, is there any truth to this, or is Leo just jerkin my yang?

 --


 Carter B. Bennett
 Little House Computer Services (LHCS)

 Using Red Hat 6.0  Corel Linux (A laptop's wet dream.)
 Linux Rocks!!!

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 when it's all over, all you really have is two dead birds,
 and your short one stone.

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[expert] Modem recognition on laptop Toshiba Portégé 3110CT

2000-04-06 Thread Bois, Mathieu

Help !

I'm unable to make Mandrake recognize the modem on this laptop. It is an
integrated modem (windows98 says it is V90, irq4, ioports 1880-1887 and
1400-14ff)

Lothar takes a long time to look for one, but finally doesn't find it.

I can't see nothing regarding it in the kernel messages.

Do you think it is a winmodem ?
Do you know if it there's a chance/mean to make it work on Linux? (it works
correctly under win98) 

Regards

Mathieu



Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested

2000-04-06 Thread Nom Sandgorgon

I tried it.  Command line start..   debug screen... crashed.  I gave up
after 3 tries..

- Original Message -
From: "John Aldrich" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested


 On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, you wrote:
  Has anyone tried out Netscape 6 pr1 yet?  If so, please share.
 
 Yes. I've got a K6-2 3xx here with 32 mb RAM and plenty of
 drive space. I downloaded and extracted it. I started it up
 and it really didn't do anything. Looked interesting, but
 that's about it. YMMV, though...
 John





RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


If that's the case, then why does deleting that line solve the problem?

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
| For what it's worth, you'll need the line in inittab for X to start in
| runlevel 5. If you start in runlevel 3, that line is never run, so it's not
| part of the problem.
| 
| Russ
| 
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane Lester
| Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:03 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
| 
| 
| Brian T. Schellenberger said:
|   I believe that the reason you get a totally blank screen when you just
|   do a startx is because you have an empty .xinitrc.
| 
|   Since you have a .xinitrc the system one dosn't run 'cause it thinks
|   you want to replace it with your own, but yours doesn't do anything.
| 
|   Thus a plain gray screen.
| 
|   Try deleting it and then do a startx.
| 
| Many, many thanks to you and Civileme and others for sticking with this
| investigation. It looks like the above finally did the trick. Deleting
| (well, actually renaming) the .xinitrc and taking out
| "x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon" from the bottom of inittab
| allowed the boot to stop at the console screen and for "startx" to
| operate without crashing back to the console.
| 
| Interestingly, now that I've done a startx, the window manager that is
| running is KDE, not my preferred and previous IceWM. I think I can find
| where that is going on and make the change.
| --
| Lane
| 
| Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
| Using Linux to get where I want to go...
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Re: [expert] gnucash

2000-04-06 Thread tboldt

Alan Shoemaker wrote:

 tboldtbefore you went to all of that trouble, did you try
 cbb?  It's already installed on your system if you didn't
 deselect it durring installation.

 Alan

 tboldt wrote:
 
  I am attempting to switch totally from OS/2-Windows to Linux. I am
  almost there. I have ported my applications that I use consistently. The
 
  only application I have yet to obtain for Linux is a replacement for my
  checkbook, financial application. I have decided to try gnucash and
  donwloaded the latest version 1.3.4 and the support package guile,
  1.3.4.
 
  My problem - when I attempt to install gnucash with kpackage, it will
  not install due to a failed dependency:
 
  libguile.so.4
 
  I have examined the guile packages included with the mandrake version I
  have (7.0-2 (Air)), no libguile.so.4. There are other libs, but not
  '.4'. The guile package I downloaded from the gnucash site also did not
  contain the '.4' lib.
 
  Does anyone know where I can obtain this lib??  Or maybe this is a
  false error message from kpackage.
 
  Has anyone else installed gnucash under Mandrake Linux??? if so, how???

No - i'll look it it and moneydance.

I looked through the disks that came with Mandrake Linux - do not remember
seeing anything describing cbb, but then that is a pretty descriptive name
:-) .

Thanks for the tip and to everyone who replyed - I'm getting much, much
closer to a sane world now




Re: [expert] Any Sparc/Linux users out there

2000-04-06 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

John Aldrich wrote:

 We've got a Sparc5 that wouldn't install Linux. RedHat (up
 through 6.1) said it wasn't supported. We downloaded the
 ISO for RedHat 6.2 and it installed fine, except we had to
 use the "text expert" install. Unfortunately, I don't THINK
 Mandrake supports this model (yet?)

I thought it did, though I've never used it myself.

-Stephen-





[expert] USB Mouse Support.

2000-04-06 Thread Christopher M. Kopp

During my installation of 7.0.2, I was using an USB Mouse. The installation
program addressed the mouse properly and allowed me to use it during my
install. However, once I completed the install X Windows does not seem to
recognize my mouse. During installation I chose my mouse type as USB mouse.

Does anyone have any ideas how to make sure that the driver is loaded
properly etc. ? I can make this real easy and go buy a new ps/2 mouse, but I
would like to know why I can't get it to work if it worked flawlessly in the
installation program.

Any help would be most appreciative.

-Chris




Re: [expert] syslog stopped working?

2000-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 13:48 -0400, Bob Chin wrote:
 After about 4 days of uptime, klogd stopped working.  I use ipchains and
 ip masquerading and noticed that /var/log/messages stoppped logging
 denied packets and other info like kernel: ip_masq_ftp OUT: got PASV.
 After I restarted syslog, it started logging again.  Anyone experienced
 this before.  I have since updated the sysklogd package from
 MandrakeCooker to see if the problem goes away.  Thanks.

Yes, I have seen this before. Every now and then the logging in
/var/log/messages stops completely after the daily cron at 04:02
in the morning. This happens in irregular intervals and I
observed this with MDK 5.3, 6.1 and 7.0
 
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RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Russ Johnson

Read up on how init reads that file. The answer will become clear.

I suspect you could put that line back (and make no other changes to your
system) and it wouldn't run X on startup... As long as it's truly starting
in runlevel 3. This is controlled by the first line in inittab.

If it does, you have much bigger problems than just X starting at bootup.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian T.
Schellenberger
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart



If that's the case, then why does deleting that line solve the problem?

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
| For what it's worth, you'll need the line in inittab for X to start in
| runlevel 5. If you start in runlevel 3, that line is never run, so it's
not
| part of the problem.
|
| Russ
|
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane Lester
| Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:03 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
|
|
| Brian T. Schellenberger said:
|   I believe that the reason you get a totally blank screen when you just
|   do a startx is because you have an empty .xinitrc.
| 
|   Since you have a .xinitrc the system one dosn't run 'cause it thinks
|   you want to replace it with your own, but yours doesn't do anything.
| 
|   Thus a plain gray screen.
| 
|   Try deleting it and then do a startx.
|
| Many, many thanks to you and Civileme and others for sticking with this
| investigation. It looks like the above finally did the trick. Deleting
| (well, actually renaming) the .xinitrc and taking out
| "x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon" from the bottom of inittab
| allowed the boot to stop at the console screen and for "startx" to
| operate without crashing back to the console.
|
| Interestingly, now that I've done a startx, the window manager that is
| running is KDE, not my preferred and previous IceWM. I think I can find
| where that is going on and make the change.
| --
| Lane
| 
| Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
| Using Linux to get where I want to go...
--
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[expert] RE: [expert] Modem recognition on laptop Toshiba Portégé 3110CT

2000-04-06 Thread Stout, Wayne

What kind of modem does Win98 say it is? I know that the modem on my
Travelmate 512 is a winmodem, and I've never had any luck using the linmodem
drivers. BeOS, however, sees the modem and works like a champ.

HTH,

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: Bois, Mathieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:53 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [expert] Modem recognition on laptop Toshiba Portégé 3110CT


Help !

I'm unable to make Mandrake recognize the modem on this laptop. It is an
integrated modem (windows98 says it is V90, irq4, ioports 1880-1887 and
1400-14ff)

Lothar takes a long time to look for one, but finally doesn't find it.

I can't see nothing regarding it in the kernel messages.

Do you think it is a winmodem ?
Do you know if it there's a chance/mean to make it work on Linux? (it works
correctly under win98) 

Regards

Mathieu



Re: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Wayne Petherick


Have you tried typing lilo to effect your changes?

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Glyn Millington wrote:
 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:48:45 +0100
 To: Mandrake Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut
 
 This is an old question but for me its a new machine.  
 
 It's an AMd K6 450 with 32 mb RAM (soon to be increased!)
 
 On firing up Mandrake 7 (with kernel 2.2.15-0.18mdk), it tells me
 I have 23MB ram.  I've added
 append =  "mem=32m" 
 to lilo.conf with no effect.
 Can anyone tell me what is going on here?
 Is Linux not detecting the RAM?
 Is it discounting space used by the kernel?
 
 I've trawled the docs but couldn't find any clues.
 
 TIA
 
 Glyn M.
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Re: [expert] Problems with Intel Netport Printserver and Samba

2000-04-06 Thread Harondel J. Sibble

After a pretty much all day troubleshooting session, the problem is
solved, samba was using by default the wrong printing command.  I added
the following to my printers share and now all is well:

print command = lpr %p %s

On 6 Apr 00, at 2:05, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:

 
 Well, to ask the obvious . . .
 
 You did delete the old "local" printers from the Windows machine(s) and
 re-install them as "network" printers, right?


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Re: [expert] gnucash

2000-04-06 Thread jfmurphy

I installed the beta version 1.3.1 from the Mandrake Cooker RPMS. It's a new
beta version, I think the stable version is 1.2. something or other.

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 Alan Shoemaker wrote:

   Has anyone else installed gnucash under Mandrake Linux??? if so, how???
 
 No - i'll look it it and moneydance.
 
 I looked through the disks that came with Mandrake Linux - do not remember
 seeing anything describing cbb, but then that is a pretty descriptive name
 :-) .
 
 Thanks for the tip and to everyone who replyed - I'm getting much, much
 closer to a sane world now
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Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested

2000-04-06 Thread Alan N.

Craig Woods wrote:
 
 Are you using a Linux version of this browser, and if so, where did you find
 that little hummer?
 Thanks,
 Craig
 
Yep.

Netscape's site.

Alan

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Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Matt Stegman

 I think I get it.  But how do I actually go about making the partitions?  
 When I install Mandrake, I get a partitioner.  Do I do it all at that 
 time?  (I am planning to do a clean Mandrake install as the first OS on 
 the new disk.)  Or do I need to partition the HD before installing 
 anything?

I'd suggest making the partitions ahead of time, for simplicity.  That
way, you'll know what you want to do before you start installing, and
won't have to deal with any inept install partitioning tools you might run
across.  Planning is good.

And you can use any partitioning tool you like- except for Microsoft
FDISK.EXE, because it doesn't understand anything outside of MS-Land.

-Matt Stegman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[expert] IP Masq.

2000-04-06 Thread Richard Bonebrake

I am trying to get my home network working with ip
masq. I have this
working on my system with win98 and with OS/2 I
normally connect with
OS/2 and work my Win98 machine through it to my
ISP. I do my Palm pilot
through my win98 machine to my os2 machine to my
isp. I am totally lost
with Linux to do this. I have printed out the IP
Masq. HOWTO and now
know even less then before I read it. Is there a
simple program or setup
I can use so these 3 machines can connect to my ISp
again. I have tried several questions in newbie and gotten no answers. I
am by no means an expert and need simple suggestions or directions. 
Thanks for any help you can give.



RE: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Matt Stegman

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Bill Shirley wrote:
 After installing the boot manager, you can use Ranish, DiskDrake, or
 any other program to define your Linux partitions.  You won't need
 lilo at all.

Don't you?  You still need something that will read into the ext2
filesystem and locate the kernel.  

LILO is also nice because it allows you to add "append=" strings, and
specify a runlevel for init.  Can you do this with other boot managers?

I know that you can keep LILO in the boot sector of the Linux partition,
and have the other boot manager load LILO, which loads the kernel, but can
the other boot managers actually load the kernel?

-Matt Stegman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Civileme

Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:
 
 If that's the case, then why does deleting that line solve the problem?
 
 On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 | For what it's worth, you'll need the line in inittab for X to start in
 | runlevel 5. If you start in runlevel 3, that line is never run, so it's not
 | part of the problem.
 | 
 | Russ
 | 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane Lester
 | Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:03 AM
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Subject: Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
 | 
 | 
 | Brian T. Schellenberger said:
 |   I believe that the reason you get a totally blank screen when you just
 |   do a startx is because you have an empty .xinitrc.
 | 
 |   Since you have a .xinitrc the system one dosn't run 'cause it thinks
 |   you want to replace it with your own, but yours doesn't do anything.
 | 
 |   Thus a plain gray screen.
 | 
 |   Try deleting it and then do a startx.
 | 
 | Many, many thanks to you and Civileme and others for sticking with this
 | investigation. It looks like the above finally did the trick. Deleting
 | (well, actually renaming) the .xinitrc and taking out
 | "x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon" from the bottom of inittab
 | allowed the boot to stop at the console screen and for "startx" to
 | operate without crashing back to the console.
 | 
 | Interestingly, now that I've done a startx, the window manager that is
 | running is KDE, not my preferred and previous IceWM. I think I can find
 | where that is going on and make the change.
 | --
 | Lane
 | 
 | Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
 | Using Linux to get where I want to go...
 -- 
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Deleting the line changes the X behavior--basically breaking it.

I finally reproduced the problem.

High security

user login

su'ed in a Konsole

Set /etc/inittab line to

id:3:initdefault:

logged out and rebooted--finding myself in X

cat /var/run/runlevel.dir

/etc/rc.d/rc5.d

kudzu looks at /etc/inittab and boots to RL5 if it sees 5

linuxconf is called by a symlink called /sbin/askrunlevel and looks in 
/var/run/runlevel.dir

Apparently su-ing in High security level enables the permission to edit 
a file but not to make linuxconf do its thing.

So they are out of sync and runlevel 5 is a logical OR of their 
individual directives.

It appears the remedy is to use linuxconf to set your runlevel--under 
Misc Servives on the opening screen.

Civileme




Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Ron Stodden

Kirk McElhearn wrote:

 Or do I need to partition the HD before installing
 anything?

Good partitioning is so essential to the running of any multiple-OS
computer that it isn't worth taking any risks with (like tyres on a
car, and the battery in cold climates).

Partition Magic is mature, well known, and works well for all OSs and
file system types.  Ranish is only beta, Mandrake's partitioner is
too new (look at the history of bugs behind Partition Magic!).

The basic problem is that there is no ISO, or any other, standard or
organisation in charge of how disks should be partitioned - for
example, Windows traditionally builds the partition tables in start
cylinder number order, Unix/Linux traditionally builds them in
creation time order.  Fundamental ditfferences like that make
interworking catastrophic.  Because this whole area has just grown
like Topsy, it is not well designed, and has been much klooged over
the years to retain the required backwards compatibility.  Therefore
there are lots of gotchas. For a salutory education, just look at the
error message listing in the back of the Partition Magic manual!.  
Mandrake has not yet published the error messages for its
partitioner.

So, yes, set up your hard disks with a good multi-OS and
multi-file-system-type partitioner before you install.  The only one
I know that can be confidently trusted is Partition Magic.  Yes, it
does cost, but it's more than worth it.   

Partitioning is not just a one time job - you will be readjusting the
partitioning, say, monthly, as your space demands grow.

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RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Lane Lester

Russ Johnson said:

 Read up on how init reads that file. The answer will become clear.
  
  I suspect you could put that line back (and make no other changes to your
  system) and it wouldn't run X on startup... As long as it's truly starting
  in runlevel 3. This is controlled by the first line in inittab.

Perhaps you haven't been following the whole thread. I've had:
id:3:initdefault:
for a long time without effect. It was not until I commented out:
x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
that I finally was able boot without X automatically starting.
-- 
Lane

Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
Using Linux to get where I want to go...




Re: [expert] IP Masq.

2000-04-06 Thread Alan N.

Richard Bonebrake wrote:
 
 I am trying to get my home network working with ip
 masq. I have this
 working on my system with win98 and with OS/2 I
 normally connect with
 OS/2 and work my Win98 machine through it to my
 ISP. I do my Palm pilot
 through my win98 machine to my os2 machine to my
 isp. I am totally lost
 with Linux to do this. I have printed out the IP
 Masq. HOWTO and now
 know even less then before I read it. Is there a
 simple program or setup
 I can use so these 3 machines can connect to my ISp
 again. I have tried several questions in newbie and gotten no answers. I
 am by no means an expert and need simple suggestions or directions.
 Thanks for any help you can give.

Try PMfirewall.. ( find it on freshmeat ).

Run it, install it.. When it asks for machines with unrestricted use put
the ip in of the machines you wish to masq.  It will also later ask you
if you want ipmasq ( or forwarding enabled. ) answer yes.

This is easy.


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RE: [expert] Missing RAM - an old chestnut

2000-04-06 Thread Lane Lester

Russ Johnson said:

 Is it possible you have one of those systems that "shares" the ram with the
  video? In that case, you're motherboard is using 8 megs of ram for video,
  leaving you 23 megs for the system.

Good point. I had that problem until I used "mem=124M" because my onboard video
uses 4M.
-- 
Lane

Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
Using Linux to get where I want to go...




Re: [expert] Modem recognition on laptop Toshiba Portégé3110CT

2000-04-06 Thread Craig Woods

Yes, most internal modems coming in laptops are "winmodems" But this is hardly
a setback! My laptop came with such a modem, and I have never once used it. I
went straight for my Zoom PCMCIA Modem card, and I have never looked back
since. On my laptop, NT4.0 SP5 and LM7.02 love the baud right out of this
little sucker.
Craig

"Bois, Mathieu" wrote:

 Help !

 I'm unable to make Mandrake recognize the modem on this laptop. It is an
 integrated modem (windows98 says it is V90, irq4, ioports 1880-1887 and
 1400-14ff)

 Lothar takes a long time to look for one, but finally doesn't find it.

 I can't see nothing regarding it in the kernel messages.

 Do you think it is a winmodem ?
 Do you know if it there's a chance/mean to make it work on Linux? (it works
 correctly under win98)

 Regards

 Mathieu


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[expert] [Fwd: Netscape v4.72]

2000-04-06 Thread Craig Woods





Hello,
Just looking for a little info: just upgraded Netscape v4.7 to v4.72.
For some inexplicable reason, there was a bit of hacking I needed to do
but most came out for the better. One little residual hang up is in the
AddressBook for the Netscape mail client. This Netscape upgrade was done
on my PC with the LM7.02 system. In looking at my laptop, also running
LM7.02 but with the older Netscape v4.7 running, I see no such file
named "AddressBook.na2" in "/root/.netscape". However, I do see such a
file name in "/root/.netscape" on my newly upgraded v4.72 on the PC. But
the addressbook feature, the feature that allows you to store email
addresses and affix these same addresses to new mail,  works just fine
on the laptop but does not work on my PC's upgraded v4.72. When I attemp
to open the address book, it completely crashes the Netscape daemon. Is
this a bug, probably not? Would someone running v4.72 look at your
directory ".netscape" and see what your "AddressBook.na2" file looks
like, such as permissions and file type, etc., if indeed you have such a
file. Do you find that this file, "AddressBook.na2" needs to be copied
to other locations? Hopefully, someone has a bit more insight into the
email AddressBook feature in Netscape. Any and all help will be
appreciated.
Thanks
Craig


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RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


Well, there's theory, and then there's practice.

In practice, it solved his problem.

But I do see what you're saying now . . . what he's done, really,
presumably, is that he's still in runlevel 5 but now runlevel 5 doesn't
really do what it ought.

So this solves his problem but it's not the right solution.

Well, I'm a pretty emperical guy myself, so good enough for me, but
there's still a mystery to be solved.

Have at it!


On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
| Read up on how init reads that file. The answer will become clear.
| 
| I suspect you could put that line back (and make no other changes to your
| system) and it wouldn't run X on startup... As long as it's truly starting
| in runlevel 3. This is controlled by the first line in inittab.
| 
| If it does, you have much bigger problems than just X starting at bootup.
| 
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian T.
| Schellenberger
| Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:09 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
| 
| 
| 
| If that's the case, then why does deleting that line solve the problem?
| 
| On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
| | For what it's worth, you'll need the line in inittab for X to start in
| | runlevel 5. If you start in runlevel 3, that line is never run, so it's
| not
| | part of the problem.
| |
| | Russ
| |
| | -Original Message-
| | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane Lester
| | Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:03 AM
| | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Subject: Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
| |
| |
| | Brian T. Schellenberger said:
| |   I believe that the reason you get a totally blank screen when you just
| |   do a startx is because you have an empty .xinitrc.
| | 
| |   Since you have a .xinitrc the system one dosn't run 'cause it thinks
| |   you want to replace it with your own, but yours doesn't do anything.
| | 
| |   Thus a plain gray screen.
| | 
| |   Try deleting it and then do a startx.
| |
| | Many, many thanks to you and Civileme and others for sticking with this
| | investigation. It looks like the above finally did the trick. Deleting
| | (well, actually renaming) the .xinitrc and taking out
| | "x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon" from the bottom of inittab
| | allowed the boot to stop at the console screen and for "startx" to
| | operate without crashing back to the console.
| |
| | Interestingly, now that I've done a startx, the window manager that is
| | running is KDE, not my preferred and previous IceWM. I think I can find
| | where that is going on and make the change.
| | --
| | Lane
| | 
| | Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
| | Using Linux to get where I want to go...
| --
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Re: [expert] Modem recognition on laptop Toshiba Portégé3110CT

2000-04-06 Thread Tom Berkley

B

Try this as root:

/bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 auto_irq skip_test autoconfig  (also try
ttyS0)

start kppp, go to setup and modem, then use the modem query function to
see if it will find the modem
if it does not find the modem, disable the modem in the bios and get
yourself a 3Com 3CCM156 pcmcia modem. Its one of the best that I have
tried. Works great in windows and linux. With the standard pcmcia linux
package you can be braindead and the modem will still work for
you.(Trevor notwithstanding).

Tom

PS if you get a modem busy when you query the modem, do not worry. use
setserial to change the irq to another unused interrupt and then set it
back to 3 which is standard issue for ttyS1 or 4 for ttyS0

^_^


"Bois, Mathieu" wrote:
 
 Help !
 
 I'm unable to make Mandrake recognize the modem on this laptop. It is an
 integrated modem (windows98 says it is V90, irq4, ioports 1880-1887 and
 1400-14ff)
 
 Lothar takes a long time to look for one, but finally doesn't find it.
 
 I can't see nothing regarding it in the kernel messages.
 
 Do you think it is a winmodem ?
 Do you know if it there's a chance/mean to make it work on Linux? (it works
 correctly under win98)
 
 Regards
 
 Mathieu



Re: [expert] Mandrake Linux Certified

2000-04-06 Thread Tom Berkley

Redhat now offers a certification program (!!!) for redhat linux
similar to MCSE from M$. Never heard of anything from Mandrake.

Tom

Marcos Dione wrote:
 
 On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, ArMiSiS AiEoLn wrote:
 
  Ok what do i gota do to earn a certificate showing I am Mandrake LInux Certified
 
 le what? uh... are... do you... mmm... answering more than 5000
 problems presented in this list a year?
 
 ok, stop the joke... thas something like that exist? Now I'm
 curious...
 
 --
 "No tire sus colillas en el mingitorio, las humedece y
 las hace dificil de encender"
 "Do not dump butts in the wc. They dampen and it makes
 them difficult to light."
   --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"



[expert] Alt-F7 = crash!

2000-04-06 Thread Trevor Farrell

In the ongoing tradition of "weird  wacky" Ver 7.0-2 problems:

If I log into  KDE as usual, then Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go to a text console
all goes well, until I Alt-F7 to get back to KDE.

All I get is a black screen. The only keyboard combo that does anything
that I can find is Ctrl-Alt-Del, which does a proper shutdown (although
I can't see anything on the monitor) and reboot.  Num lock, Caps lock 
scroll lock lights don't toggle, Alt-F1 (or Ctrl-Alt-F1) or any other F
key does nothing, nor does Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. The monitor doesn't come
back until the machine restarts.

I've looked in all the /var/log files for something that might explain
it - but all looks fine to me (but I don't really know what I'm looking
for!)

Anybody have any solutions/hints/comments/guesses???

Thanks,

Trevor




Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Tom Berkley

Yes, the last line in /etc/inittab could stay in and not cause a
problem. What he had was the standard last line that is altered only if
you want to have kde startup for a graphical login. Its presence is not
the problem, definitely. I have had that last line in about 6 different
linux installs and never seen it cause a problem

Tom

Russ Johnson wrote:
 
 Read up on how init reads that file. The answer will become clear.
 
 I suspect you could put that line back (and make no other changes to your
 system) and it wouldn't run X on startup... As long as it's truly starting
 in runlevel 3. This is controlled by the first line in inittab.
 
 If it does, you have much bigger problems than just X starting at bootup.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian T.
 Schellenberger
 Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
 
 If that's the case, then why does deleting that line solve the problem?
 
 On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 | For what it's worth, you'll need the line in inittab for X to start in
 | runlevel 5. If you start in runlevel 3, that line is never run, so it's
 not
 | part of the problem.
 |
 | Russ
 |
 | -Original Message-
 | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane Lester
 | Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:03 AM
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Subject: Re: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart
 |
 |
 | Brian T. Schellenberger said:
 |   I believe that the reason you get a totally blank screen when you just
 |   do a startx is because you have an empty .xinitrc.
 | 
 |   Since you have a .xinitrc the system one dosn't run 'cause it thinks
 |   you want to replace it with your own, but yours doesn't do anything.
 | 
 |   Thus a plain gray screen.
 | 
 |   Try deleting it and then do a startx.
 |
 | Many, many thanks to you and Civileme and others for sticking with this
 | investigation. It looks like the above finally did the trick. Deleting
 | (well, actually renaming) the .xinitrc and taking out
 | "x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon" from the bottom of inittab
 | allowed the boot to stop at the console screen and for "startx" to
 | operate without crashing back to the console.
 |
 | Interestingly, now that I've done a startx, the window manager that is
 | running is KDE, not my preferred and previous IceWM. I think I can find
 | where that is going on and make the change.
 | --
 | Lane
 | 
 | Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
 | Using Linux to get where I want to go...
 --
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 Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org
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Re: [expert] USB Mouse Support.

2000-04-06 Thread Tom Berkley

Run mouseconfig from the shell prompt and see what happens. Two things
to look at also: 1) /dev/mouse and see what it points to (hopefully the
usb device file) and 2)recompile the kernel but if the install
recognized it then it should be in the installed kernel functionality
but that does not mean that it is.

Tom

"Christopher M. Kopp" wrote:
 
 During my installation of 7.0.2, I was using an USB Mouse. The installation
 program addressed the mouse properly and allowed me to use it during my
 install. However, once I completed the install X Windows does not seem to
 recognize my mouse. During installation I chose my mouse type as USB mouse.
 
 Does anyone have any ideas how to make sure that the driver is loaded
 properly etc. ? I can make this real easy and go buy a new ps/2 mouse, but I
 would like to know why I can't get it to work if it worked flawlessly in the
 installation program.
 
 Any help would be most appreciative.
 
 -Chris



Re: [expert] LT Winmodem

2000-04-06 Thread Ayman Haidar

Once upon a time Carter B. Bennett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Hi all,
I was watching ZDTV the other night and Leo said that the new 7.0 Mandrake
supported the LT Winmodem. I thought that was cool but didn't find anything on
the web site, is there any truth to this, or is Leo just jerkin my yang?

--


I just bought a new acer laptop, and it came with internal LT winmodem,
I was running to get a PCMCIA modem card but I read a little over
www.linmodem.org and downloaded a little module from the site (made by
LT) installed it and to my greatest surprise the modem worked. I can
connect to the net and ppp works fine with it. I cannot fax out though
(I haven't tried hard though)..

I am still very amazed that it worked.


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Re: [expert] IP Masq.

2000-04-06 Thread Tom Berkley

Firewall - quick and easy for Mandrake or Redhat linux:
Start netcfg and go to the routing tab and turn on network packet
forwarding by highlighting the box.
Then add the following lines to the /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall file:
 
/sbin/depmod -a
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_raudio
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_irc
 
/sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.1/24 -j MASQ
/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.2/24 -j
MASQ   

After you finish editing, chmod a+x /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall. Note that the
ip addresses are examples and you should change your ip addresses to the
ones in your network that you want to be able to see thru this firewall.
If you have more machines, then add more lines like the last one with
the new ip address. Also if you do not want the others to have
realaudio, irc or ftp thru the firewall, then you can comment out each
of those modprobe commands with a # sign. If your netmask is
255.255.255.0 then the 24 in the last two lines is correct.

Last thing to do is reboot and check the other machines.

Tom



Richard Bonebrake wrote:
 
 I am trying to get my home network working with ip
 masq. I have this
 working on my system with win98 and with OS/2 I
 normally connect with
 OS/2 and work my Win98 machine through it to my
 ISP. I do my Palm pilot
 through my win98 machine to my os2 machine to my
 isp. I am totally lost
 with Linux to do this. I have printed out the IP
 Masq. HOWTO and now
 know even less then before I read it. Is there a
 simple program or setup
 I can use so these 3 machines can connect to my ISp
 again. I have tried several questions in newbie and gotten no answers. I
 am by no means an expert and need simple suggestions or directions.
 Thanks for any help you can give.



Re: [expert] [Fwd: Netscape v4.72]

2000-04-06 Thread Tom Berkley

Craig Woods wrote:
 
   
 
 Subject: Netscape v4.72
 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:46:06 -0500
 From: Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hello,
 Just looking for a little info: just upgraded Netscape v4.7 to v4.72.
 For some inexplicable reason, there was a bit of hacking I needed to do
 but most came out for the better. One little residual hang up is in the
 AddressBook for the Netscape mail client. This Netscape upgrade was done
 on my PC with the LM7.02 system. In looking at my laptop, also running
 LM7.02 but with the older Netscape v4.7 running, I see no such file
 named "AddressBook.na2" in "/root/.netscape". However, I do see such a
 file name in "/root/.netscape" on my newly upgraded v4.72 on the PC. But
 the addressbook feature, the feature that allows you to store email
 addresses and affix these same addresses to new mail,  works just fine
 on the laptop but does not work on my PC's upgraded v4.72. When I attemp
 to open the address book, it completely crashes the Netscape daemon. Is
 this a bug, probably not? Would someone running v4.72 look at your
 directory ".netscape" and see what your "AddressBook.na2" file looks
 like, such as permissions and file type, etc., if indeed you have such a
 file. Do you find that this file, "AddressBook.na2" needs to be copied
 to other locations? Hopefully, someone has a bit more insight into the
 email AddressBook feature in Netscape. Any and all help will be
 appreciated.
 Thanks
 Craig
 
   
 
   J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   IT Networking Admin
   Celtic Pride, Inc.
 
Its pab.na2 that you are looking for in linux netscape.

Tom


   J. Craig Woods
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Conference Software Address
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   J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   IT Consultant
   Celtic Pride, Inc.
   Networking
 
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RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart

2000-04-06 Thread Russ Johnson

That means something else is broken. By commenting out that line, you
effectively broke your system.

Yes, it's now doing what you want, but in the wrong manner. There's probably
other things going on that you don't need, or things that you want that
aren't running.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lane Lester
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 5:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] Can't Break X Autostart


Russ Johnson said:

 Read up on how init reads that file. The answer will become clear.

  I suspect you could put that line back (and make no other changes to your
  system) and it wouldn't run X on startup... As long as it's truly
starting
  in runlevel 3. This is controlled by the first line in inittab.

Perhaps you haven't been following the whole thread. I've had:
id:3:initdefault:
for a long time without effect. It was not until I commented out:
x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
that I finally was able boot without X automatically starting.
--
Lane

Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
Using Linux to get where I want to go...




Re: [expert] Multiple Linux systems on one hard disk?

2000-04-06 Thread Scott Sweeney

What I have typically done in the past is to make partitions for the 
first OS (typically Win95) and leave the rest of the disk 
unpartitioned. When I load the next OS, I partition specifically for 
that, and so on.  I give the most space to the primary OS, and less 
to the others.  That way, I don't have to worry about resizing 
partitions and losing data, since I am essentially working with a bare 
drive.  Of course that takes planning ahead of time.

-scott



On 7 Apr 00, at 10:54, Ron Stodden wrote:

 Kirk McElhearn wrote:
 
  Or do I need to partition the HD before installing
  anything?
 
 Good partitioning is so essential to the running of any multiple-OS
 computer that it isn't worth taking any risks with (like tyres on a
 car, and the battery in cold climates).
 
 Partition Magic is mature, well known, and works well for all OSs and
 file system types.  Ranish is only beta, Mandrake's partitioner is
 too new (look at the history of bugs behind Partition Magic!).
 
 The basic problem is that there is no ISO, or any other, standard or
 organisation in charge of how disks should be partitioned - for
 example, Windows traditionally builds the partition tables in start
 cylinder number order, Unix/Linux traditionally builds them in
 creation time order.  Fundamental ditfferences like that make
 interworking catastrophic.  Because this whole area has just grown
 like Topsy, it is not well designed, and has been much klooged over
 the years to retain the required backwards compatibility.  Therefore
 there are lots of gotchas. For a salutory education, just look at the
 error message listing in the back of the Partition Magic manual!.  
 Mandrake has not yet published the error messages for its
 partitioner.
 
 So, yes, set up your hard disks with a good multi-OS and
 multi-file-system-type partitioner before you install.  The only one
 I know that can be confidently trusted is Partition Magic.  Yes, it
 does cost, but it's more than worth it.   
 
 Partitioning is not just a one time job - you will be readjusting the
 partitioning, say, monthly, as your space demands grow.
 
 -- 
 
 Regards,
 
 Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.





[expert] fresh install: GNOME wierdness (slow!)

2000-04-06 Thread Vincent Danen

I just reinstalled Mandrake 7.0-2 to clean up the GNOME desktop and some
other things I messed up.  Now GNOME is horrendously slow!  Everything
takes about 10x as long as it used to and I don't think I did anything
differently between now and when I installed it before...  any ideas?

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Re: [expert] IP Masq.

2000-04-06 Thread Trevor Farrell

"Alan N." wrote:

 Richard Bonebrake wrote:
 
  I am trying to get my home network working with ip
  masq. I have this
  working on my system with win98 and with OS/2 I
  normally connect with
  OS/2 and work my Win98 machine through it to my
  ISP. I do my Palm pilot
  through my win98 machine to my os2 machine to my
  isp. I am totally lost
  with Linux to do this. I have printed out the IP
  Masq. HOWTO and now
  know even less then before I read it. Is there a
  simple program or setup
  I can use so these 3 machines can connect to my ISp
  again. I have tried several questions in newbie and gotten no answers. I
  am by no means an expert and need simple suggestions or directions.
  Thanks for any help you can give.

 Try PMfirewall.. ( find it on freshmeat ).

 Run it, install it.. When it asks for machines with unrestricted use put
 the ip in of the machines you wish to masq.  It will also later ask you
 if you want ipmasq ( or forwarding enabled. ) answer yes.

 This is easy.

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 Coming to you from RedHat 6.2 and/or BeOS 5
 ===

If all you want is masquerading, Linux does it with no added exras. Just:

1)  Edit /etc/sysconfig/network by changing "FORWARD_IPV4=NO" to
"FORWARD_IPV4=YES"

2) In a shell (console) type:

ipchains -P forward DENY
ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -j MASQ

Add these 2 lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.local unless you want type them every time
you restart Linux!

3) Type into your console:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart

and you're off and running...




Re: [expert] Modem recognition on laptop Toshiba Portégé3110CT

2000-04-06 Thread Trevor Farrell

Tom Berkley wrote:

 B

 Try this as root:

 /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 auto_irq skip_test autoconfig  (also try
 ttyS0)

 start kppp, go to setup and modem, then use the modem query function to
 see if it will find the modem
 if it does not find the modem, disable the modem in the bios and get
 yourself a 3Com 3CCM156 pcmcia modem. Its one of the best that I have
 tried. Works great in windows and linux. With the standard pcmcia linux
 package you can be braindead and the modem will still work for
 you.(Trevor notwithstanding).

Hey! Now that's getting personal! g I can't help it if computers misbehave
just 'cause I get near them!



 Tom

 PS if you get a modem busy when you query the modem, do not worry. use
 setserial to change the irq to another unused interrupt and then set it
 back to 3 which is standard issue for ttyS1 or 4 for ttyS0




[expert] Office Suite for Linux

2000-04-06 Thread Michael Holt


Hello all!
 I just wanted to say, I went to the Corel-linux
roadshow last night in Seattle and while I'm not really impressed with
their OS version of linux, I was VERY impressed with their Office Suite.
If anybody out there would like to get their hands on an alternative to
M$ Office, I HIGHLY recommend Corels WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux.
I also use M$ Word 2000 for Windows, and I think that Corel just blew them
out of the water!!!
--
Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [expert] [Fwd: Netscape v4.72]

2000-04-06 Thread Craig Woods

 Tom,

 I have both files, AddressBook.na2" and "pab.na2", and both are in my
 "root/.netscape" directory.  Should one or both go somewhere else too? Or
 should I dump one? I have never seen Netscape crash so fast when all I do is
 open my address book. At any rate thanks for the response.

Craig


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Re: [expert] Mandrake Linux Certified

2000-04-06 Thread ArMiSiS AiEoLn

No no no, I miss spoke, I meant to say How to I earn Mandrake Linux
Certification.

Dave


On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, ArMiSiS AiEoLn wrote:
 
  Ok what do i gota do to earn a certificate showing I am Mandrake LInux Certified
 
   le what? uh... are... do you... mmm... answering more than 5000
 problems presented in this list a year?
 
   ok, stop the joke... thas something like that exist? Now I'm
 curious...
 
 -- 
 "No tire sus colillas en el mingitorio, las humedece y
 las hace dificil de encender"
 "Do not dump butts in the wc. They dampen and it makes
 them difficult to light."
   --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"
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Re: [expert] Mandrake Linux Certified

2000-04-06 Thread ArMiSiS AiEoLn

But RedHat's not the Best.



On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 Redhat now offers a certification program (!!!) for redhat linux
 similar to MCSE from M$. Never heard of anything from Mandrake.
 
 Tom
 
 Marcos Dione wrote:
  
  On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, ArMiSiS AiEoLn wrote:
  
   Ok what do i gota do to earn a certificate showing I am Mandrake LInux Certified
  
  le what? uh... are... do you... mmm... answering more than 5000
  problems presented in this list a year?
  
  ok, stop the joke... thas something like that exist? Now I'm
  curious...
  
  --
  "No tire sus colillas en el mingitorio, las humedece y
  las hace dificil de encender"
  "Do not dump butts in the wc. They dampen and it makes
  them difficult to light."
--Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"
-- 
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Cause I dont do windows
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