Re: [expert] Re: Upgrade?? to LM7.1
:~ xf86 :~ config seems to have a bug as well because it gets to the screen where :~ it asks do you want to look at a list of cards and when I answer y the :~ program exits to the mc screen. :~ :~This happens to me on all my fresh installs of LM 7.1. I hope MDK fixes these :problems, they are mighty! Well, we will take a look at xf86cofig, but why don't you try to configure X using XFDrake? cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Man page reader
-Original Message- From: Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Man page reader I have Explore2fs. Installed and works great under NT4. You can see all the files BUT, when I go to the /local/man/man1 etc. it just shows you the man1,2,3,4, folders but no files or anything you can read. Am I in the wrong directory? From withing Linux, I can read the man pages. Under /usr/ there is nothing. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Man page reader -Original Message- From: Tony McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 4:37 AM Subject: [expert] Man page reader Given that I've copied my /usr/man directory to a windows partition, would anyone know of a tool for Windows 98 to read man pages in this format? If there's nothing to read the files with then I'll have to accept that, it's just for the convenience of not having to dual boot into Linux every time I'm offline and I need to glimpse at a man page. Thanks, Tony GO here http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm And be sure to read the FAQ and related stuff. You do not have to copy the directory to a FAT32 partition to be able to read it from WIN. I do think that it is singularly dangerous to write anything from win to linux, even with this tool, but reading should be (comparatively) safe. Civileme /usr/man/man.1.bz2 has most of what you want I _think_ freezip will unfold that one for you and then WordPad. I am using windows right now out of necessity for the first time in almost two years. Civileme
Re: [expert] Man page reader
-Original Message- From: Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Man page reader I have Explore2fs. Installed and works great under NT4. You can see all the files BUT, when I go to the /local/man/man1 etc. it just shows you the man1,2,3,4, folders but no files or anything you can read. Am I in the wrong directory? From withing Linux, I can read the man pages. Under /usr/ there is nothing. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Man page reader -Original Message- From: Tony McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 4:37 AM Subject: [expert] Man page reader Given that I've copied my /usr/man directory to a windows partition, would anyone know of a tool for Windows 98 to read man pages in this format? If there's nothing to read the files with then I'll have to accept that, it's just for the convenience of not having to dual boot into Linux every time I'm offline and I need to glimpse at a man page. Thanks, Tony GO here http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm And be sure to read the FAQ and related stuff. You do not have to copy the directory to a FAT32 partition to be able to read it from WIN. I do think that it is singularly dangerous to write anything from win to linux, even with this tool, but reading should be (comparatively) safe. Civileme ACK!!! that is /usr/man/man1/man.1.bz2 And it might be the most recent version of winzip. Civileme
Re: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found
Submitted 09-Jul-00 by Gilbert Baron:
I used Custom and Development.
The error occurs at the Configure X step.
This is the gui installation, as plain as I can be.
I get this error every time. Xfree code itself is there because I did a
select individual packages once just to see and it did not work that time
either.
Try skipping the configure X step. (Just press the star next to the
next step in the installer) This will at least get you a working
console system. From there, put your CD in the drive and do (as root)
cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS
rpm -Uvh
XFree[-]{,libs,server-common,xfs,{100,75)dpi-fonts,devel,-VGA16,-XF86Setup,-xnest}-3*
4. what Hardware do you have (Graphic Card etc.) ?
That is not relevant. I have a Viper II card and a 500 MHz P III if it
matters.
Actually, it is highly relevant, because if you have an unsupported
graphics card you cannot set up X. Looking through the Card database,
I do not see a Viper II listed:
$ grep [vV]iper CardsNames
Other|Interay PMC Viper=Interay PMC Viper
Diamond|Viper VLB 2Mb=Diamond Viper VLB 2Mb *
Diamond|Viper PCI 2Mb=Diamond Viper PCI 2Mb *
Diamond|Viper Pro Video=Diamond Viper Pro Video
Diamond|Viper 330=Diamond Viper 330
Diamond|Viper 550=Diamond Viper 550
Diamond|Viper 770=Diamond Viper 770
$
If your card *is* one of the above listed, then you need to rpm -Uvh
XFree86-SVGA-3* unless your card is one of the two noted with the (*).
For those you need the P9000 server instead.
If your card is unlisted, you will use the VGA-16 server and get
640x480 regular VGA.
I did my best to provide information. it think this now give all you need.
If not, tell me exactly what more you need. As I said, it is just as though
I wane tot he store and got the cds except I burned my own from the iso
images. The inst and ext.
All the code packages load but when It gets to the part o configure x it
give that error. There is something wrong with the RPM or it is missing and
There is nothing wrong with the RPM and it is in fact there if you had
a good burn from a valid image.
I don't know how to recover. That is what I need OR THEY NEED TO FIX the
files. HOW could they release this with obviously no testing.
We did plenty of testing. As was recently pointed out, our Beta cycle
for 7.1 was more than 3x longer than for 7.0. Mandrake cannot forsee every
possible combination of hardware there is.
I did the EXACT same thing on version 7 and it installed fine but my video
is only VGA so that is why I want 7.1
You will probably find the same in 7.1 if your card is not in the
above list.
If I sound frustrated, I AM. I guess I am to used to plugging in the windows
CD and walking away and coming back 45 minutes later with a new system!
Soory about that, bad week I guess.
Windows doesn't come packed with enough software to do most anything
at (at least) a basic level. It can barely handle getting hooked to
the 'net before running out of bundled software.
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Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
Maybe I'm not getting it right, but I went to your information and built the files. I did the ifup ppp0 and it dialed. I did the ifdown ppp0 and it disconnected. I then made chat-isp and modified the options files. I also made the isp file in peers. When I tried to invoke pppd call isp, nothing. I went back and verified all the files, quotes, etc were correct. The only thing I can think of is that the modem string is bad? I deleted most of the modem string leaving in only the basics for it and still, nothing. I would think it would at least make the little lights go blinky-blinky. Nothing still. Suggestions? I'm using a U. S. Robotics 33.6 external device. KPPP will dial, but get the standard "device exploded" messages everyone else seems to be getting. On that subject, I've been able to get rid of the error message and convert the string from gibberish, but that's about it in KPPP. I'd love to see a resolution to my little problem. If not, then I think I'll try qppp or some other dialing program. Prefer yours since it's a "fix" rather than simply side stepping the KPPP dialer entirely. Thanks, I'll be unable to respond after Thursday for a week, out of the country on a work trip. Oh, I agree, adding it to or making a new "HOW TO" with this and examples would be teriffic. See ya' B. B. Stanfield KC5PIY Mark Weaver wrote: I was wondering. What happens to the connection when the app initiating the connection is closed or dies? Also, for some reason when I tried to start the process of installing this I issued the launch command for the dialer from a terminal window per the instructions and all I was able to get to happen was the modem would continue to dial up the ISP. It wouldn't complete the connection. Any suggestions? thanks... -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Fran Parker wrote: Hi Bob and all, Bob, this is excellent and works really well! Now if we could get it to initiate kppp ...so you could see the modem traffic and see throughput without looking at the log. Haven't put it in the rc file yet...but works really well from the terminal so far. We are testing it at the moment. Thanks so much, Bambi "Bob Puff@NLE" wrote: Hello people, I just wrote up a file on setting up Dial On Demand with Mandrake 7.x. It provides all the sample files needed. Someone asked about this, so here is the link: http://www.nleaudio.com/bnotes/dialondemand.htm Any comments/suggestions - let me know! Bob
Re: [expert] qt dependancy problem and usb query
Submitted 09-Jul-00 by Ivan: Hello. I am trying to install the latest version of nethack which requires the qt 2.1.0 or better. When I try to install the package there is a list of decpenancies about three miles long that will be broken. Most of then are kde apps. They all want libqt.so.1. After the list the core dumps (?) . My question is: will it totaly mess things up if I upgrade with out looking for dependancies? I would think that an upgrade should be backwards compatible. There are two that need qt-egcs-10x. Use the qt2 packages from 7.1 and/or cooker which co-exist with the qt1 libraries needed by KDE 1.x Also I wonder how functional usb support for modems and zip drives are in 7.0. has any one had any luck? USB Zips work in 7.1, USB modems are generally *not* hardware modems and as such fall into the "winmodem" category. If anyone cares to you could tell me what file the fsck -l looks for. I think it is a secret. Thanks for the use of your "brainwidth" Ivan -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
Re: [expert] qt dependancy problem and usb query
-Original Message- From: Ivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 11:20 PM Subject: [expert] qt dependancy problem and usb query Hello. I am trying to install the latest version of nethack which requires the qt 2.1.0 or better. When I try to install the package there is a list of decpenancies about three miles long that will be broken. Most of then are kde apps. They all want libqt.so.1. After the list the core dumps (?) . My question is: will it totaly mess things up if I upgrade with out looking for dependancies? I would think that an upgrade should be backwards compatible. There are two that need qt-egcs-10x. Also I wonder how functional usb support for modems and zip drives are in 7.0. has any one had any luck? If anyone cares to you could tell me what file the fsck -l looks for. I think it is a secret. Thanks for the use of your "brainwidth" Ivan USB support is much better in 7.1, but don't hope for modems on the USB. Guess what they are? Yep, software modems requiring proprietary, patented, binary-only drivers that anyone who wants a sane, stable kernel avoids like the Black Death. I did see some posts on cooker list by someone who had the USB zip working. As for the qt library, ftp://us.mandrakesoft.com/pub/kde has a current library rpm that will install in a place where you can use it without breaking kde. Then go to your favorite mirror for Mandrake or just locate one from http://linux-mandrake.com and you will also find an rpm that sets up a script for kde-1-and-kde-2 which allows nethack and other kde2 specific and qt2 specific apps to run under kde1. Civileme
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
:~2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt is broken - doesn't work at all. Umpf? Does here, AFAIK. Anyone else has this problem? I have found it On my Mustec M185 P2 266 laptop that has a windoze 98 on a 2 Gig installed fine from cd boot disk - by default Mandrake installs grub, big problem on my 8 Gig Toshiba hard drive 1024 - I had to fdisk /mbr I then try to install linux from M$ and after installation I got grub again and no Icon as in 7.0 in my windoze. (I am no expert and grub does not see my / partition so it doesn't boot linux) Problem was solved by manually running loadlin and run lilo with the help of a linux user group. On the other hand I used Mandrake 6.5 on this laptop and liked it. When 7.0 7.01 and 7.02 came out I went to Corel 1.0 and enjoyed the stay. Now come the good part, I have tried 7.1 and I like it a hell of a lot, so much so that I use the Corel CD as a coaster and Mandrake on all my linux systems. The main reason was kruiser, I think it should be the default file manager but that is KDE's problem. There is also a lot of apps to choose from maybe too much but that is Linux - you can choose, you are not stuck with something that you don't like. Sure if you are brain-dead and like to reboot now and then, and just type letters goto windoze with there easy install program where you have no control over the installation and have to reboot 7 or 8 times to get all the drivers running. (If you are lucky) If you ask about the windoze on my laptop - Games, linux needs more games In South Africa there is no place where you can buy any Linux Games like those at Loki -- Eugene GrimsdellSystem Administrator OSRAM South Africa www.osram.co.za E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] i810 with MDK 7.0
Hi. (Actually,i posted this while ago,but look like it doen't appear on the list.) How to get i810 works in MDK 7.0 ? Can i use the XFree RPM from 7.1 and upgrade it ? And which XFree to use, the 3.3.6 or 4.0 one ? Thanks -lz Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
:~True. The Windows installation is typically easier than *any* linux distro, :~even the almighty (and it is, IMHO) Mandrake. Nop. It is not easier, but it works on more hardware. Though I have seen 2 machines where LM would install but Windows would not ;-. :~Consider the fact that Microsoft spends $$ on employees whose sole :~purpose is to understand how the computer disinclined people think. :~Consider the fact that Microsoft founded itself with the purpose of :~producing an OS that *anyone* can install and use on *any* machine (i386 :~based mostly). This is not our real problem: Consider the fact that hardware manufactures write their Windows drivers themselves, then PAY microsoft to test these drivers and become "certified for windows"... On the other hand, this same manufacturers are often reluctant to even publish the specs needed to write linux drivers... You got the picture? :~Linux is for sure on the way however, and Mandrake (IMHO) is really helping :~to push this. The fact is: ca 50% of our efforts are on "hardware support" (kernel-tweaking, recognition, automatic configuration) front, but we are still a small company with very limited resources, and more often than not we are still sailing against the wind Keeping this in mind, our hardware support is asstounding. I know that this does not help the people who could not install on their hardware at home, but every one is invited to help himself: Subscribe to cooker, talk to people, find the reason for your problems and help us solve it. And one last tip: think before buying a hardware. Always ask for hardware which works problemlessly under linux, if needed write to manufacturer before purchasing, and if it does not return it back to shop. This is exactly how windows users would react if they buy a piece of hardware which does not work, so just do the same and all of the sudden your problems become manufacturers problems... have fun ;- Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] writing from win to linux
-Original Message- From: Oliver L. Plaine Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:01 AM Subject: [expert] writing from win to linux On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 09:28:33 -0800, Civileme wrote: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm And be sure to read the FAQ and related stuff. You do not have to copy the directory to a FAT32 partition to be able to read it from WIN. I do think that it is singularly dangerous to write anything from win to linux, even with this tool, but reading should be (comparatively) safe. == Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:42:07 Oh my,..Is this really bad to do, Civileme? I have been stuffing file after file up into linux for several months..Without any tools , just straight from a fileI thought that win would not be acceptable to this, but Linux could handle it ok? I have not noticed anything that seems like a problem that I can attribute to this after many megs...with the possible exception of some tar.gz files from the internet,(winmodem) are no longer zipped so zxvf will error not a" g zipped file" ... I can untar them with xvf and they are ok. Your words "singularly dangerous" makes me think I may be "unwittingly" staggering toward the abyss? don't the floppy's write to Linux from vfat without problem? why would this be different? The above seems like a lot of questions, but really it's just one "should I cease this practice?"grin. Thanks Olly P Biloxi Mississippi Using Explore2fs to write I am thinking is a tad dangerous to partitions, expecially from w95. OTOH, if you are logged into linux and read or cp or even dd files from win to linux, that should be relatively safe. It isn't the exchange of files, just the tool, and then mostly for win9x. Civileme
Re: [expert] XFree86 4.01
-Original Message- From: Anton Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [expert] XFree86 4.01 SNIP of complaining post-part Depending on a distro to keep you on the edge and then complaining when they do so seems a might strange to me. Good one, Anton. I am always afraid to say such things because I could find myself at the console of a flamethrower, so I generally let the folks who are so unfair find their help elsewhere and say nothing. Civileme _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
Re: [expert] cable modem problems
-Original Message- From: Philip Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:28 AM Subject: [expert] cable modem problems I can't seem to get my cable modem to work. I believe I have my nic configured right. But it still doesn't seem to work Any help would be appreciated. Thank You Philip Watson lessee Ask your cable modem service Static IP or DHCP and if DHCP, then what RFC? Then we need dmesg Who is your ISP? What is their contact page URL? Other info as we explore. There are too many technologies and too many system differences for one answer to fit. Civileme
Re: [expert] XFree86 4.01
-Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 11:57 PM Subject: RE: [expert] XFree86 4.01 :~XFree86 4.01 just came out. :~ :~How long will it take for MDK 7.1 RPMs to be made? I need 'em since :~XFree86 4 didn't install like I specifically asked it to when installing :~MDK 7.1. Look in cooker, I reckon these RPM-s are already there. What is COOKER and how do I find it and use it? I also need that since the RPM for xfree86 is totally broken in the ISO images that you download. TIA I think you did not download true copies of the iso images because my downloads and those of hundreds of others worked fine, and the iso images made it clear that 4.0 was not regarded as the one for choice at his time. But it did install on most of my systems and the error was not failure to locate the package, but rather that it did not have an appropriate driver. Cooker you can find by navigating to www.linux-mandrake.com and clicking on updates or developers list or just about anything that brings you eventually to a list of mirrors. Most of hem carry a direcory called Mandrake-devel Which has the latest and greatest stuff, also the most experimental. DON'T touch those packages if you expect finished commercial product--it is for people to find and report bugs. It is in two directories, cooker and contribs. Cooker contains what will be in the next release when it is sufficiently debugged. Either set of packages, cooker or contribs, has no warranty, You break it, you keep the pieces. It turns you into a sperm whale, you live on a diet of giant squid. One place you can find cooker is ftp://ftp.linux.tucows.com/pub/distributions/Mandrake/Mandrake -devel Civileme
[expert] something I'm missing...
Hello list, I'm a former windoze user and quite thankful to have been able to break the bonds from the M$ monster, but there are once in a while a program(s) that I miss. One of those happens to be Entry Point. Does anyone know of a program similar to this for Linux? I like to be able to read the news now and then and I really like the way EP presented everything. thanks, -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496
Re: [expert] writing from win to linux
Submitted 09-Jul-00 by Oliver L. Plaine Jr.: Your words "singularly dangerous" makes me think I may be "unwittingly" staggering toward the abyss? don't the floppy's write to Linux from vfat without problem? why would this be different? The author of the Explore2fs package states that the writing to an ext2 file system is not completely tested/safe. As for the floppies, you are using linux to transfer data from one recognized filesystem to another. Trying to accomplish the same feat with Explore2fs from windows is adding an extra layer of operation in which your data can get munged. -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
[expert] How to access DOS files with no XFREE available , no GUI
I moved this to newbie list where it is probably more fitting. I got the instructions below but I do not know how to get the files I downloaded (to my E:\linux folder to copy them to the root so that I can proceed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am sure there is some simple command but I do not know what it is. TIA -Original Message- From: Civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found -Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AA/MandrakeExpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:35 AM Subject: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found I sent this to newbie list and perhaps that is where it belongs but the list does not seem to be responding. I am in dire need of help here so I am sending it here. Please excuse me if incorrect. -Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:29 AM To: AA/MandrakeNewbie Subject: xfree86 RPM not found I downloaded the inst and ext iso images for Mandrake 7.1 Did you run md5sum? Well, if you didn't have linux already, you probably could not have. I burned the cds I created the Boot disk. I did the install but when it got to the xfree86 configure portion I got Error found xfree86 RPM not found. so continue the install to the end without X Then goto ftp://ftp/linux.tucows.com/pub/distributions/Mandrake/Mandrake but do it with an ftp program or netscape, not MSIE which will bomb. There under 7.1 under RPMS search for packages beginning with the name XF and download them then start linux (without X) login as root and copy the files to /root and # rpm -ivh XF*.rpm If you get complains about missing libraries try the same command line with --nodeps added after the -ivh and surrounded by spaces. Once that is complete # Xconfigurator will start installing the X What has happened is that your download is corrupted, or your media is bad or your cables are loose to the CD or the burner. I just finished an install of about 28 minutes where I was a spectator except to tell Linux-Mandrake's install program a few IPs and what printer I was using. And this was no ordinary hardware but some REALLY tough choices. Win98 would have called for no fewer than 5 driver disks and still messed up (I had two ethernet cards and 98 could see either one, but missed them both when they were both installed. And when I tried to use the install hardware wizard -- It revolted (no no no, I have to detect that for you)) 98 never did install. Civileme Huu? where is it and what did I do wrong and can I recover without another complete install. This takes forever as it is over 1900 megs for the developer version. TIA -- Gil Baron W0MN http://members.home.net/gbaron/ 44:04:55.9 N 92:30:46.206 W 1050' NAD27 "Hierro candente, batir de repente"
Re: [expert] MDK7.0 and CD-Writers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK - I have just found the CD-Writing FAQ's on the web. No doubt I will
find my answers in that.
Sorry to bother the list, although it would be better in setup if when the
CD-Writer was detected (LILO append='hdc=ide-scsi' was set automatically),
also to set /etc/fstab to /dev/scd0 rather than /dev/cdrom which is
sym-linked to /dev/hdc (in my case)!
. . . or to change the symlink, which seems like the more obvious fix to
me.
And one that I suggested to Mandrake for 7.1. I'm not running 7.1,
though . . . does anybody know if this got addressed in 7.1?
John
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having just loaded M7.0 I am stuck getting the CD-(re)Writer to work. The
unit is a Plextor 8/4/32A and I had to set
hdc=ide-scsi
in the loader, and
insmod ide-scsi
to include the module, whereupon I can mount and read a conventional CD.
However when writing I clearly need to make a filesystem somehow before it
is written. How do I do that? Is there a recommended piece of software?
Obviously it won't do it at the moment.
The CD was from a PC-Plus (UK mag) cover disk and if I am happy with it I
will put up 7.1 etc. My other systems are all RH5.2. I was intending to
upgrade to the latest 6.x but the optimised Pentium kernel etc was
attractive since I do a lot of numerical calcs.
BTW despite requesting NO Graphics, in particular NO KDE, I still find
various packages installed such as
kdelibs-1.1.2-14mdk
kdesupport-1.1.2-11mdk
but no other and
XFree86-libs-3.3.6-4mdk
XFree86-xfs-3.3.6-4mdk
xloadimage-4.1-4mdk
xpm-3.4k-7mdk
xscreensaver-3.18-3mdk
xtraceroute-0.8.14-7mdk
and probably others that I haven't yet spotted. Any reason why? I
want to run the system without X using another machine as the X server.
Comments svp.
John
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RE: [expert] cable modem problems
any more info ... what have you tried ... have you read the Cable-modem HOWTO ... it was pretty straight forward Michael -Original Message- From: Philip Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] cable modem problems I can't seem to get my cable modem to work. I believe I have my nic configured right. But it still doesn't seem to work Any help would be appreciated. Thank You Philip Watson
RE: Overclocking sources (was: [expert] Cannot install 7.1, why!? !?)
www.overclockers.com www.overclockin.com There's a gazillion sites but those will get you started. I think one of those sites has a bunch of links to other good sites. Have fun, Matthew Zaleski -Original Message- From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 1:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot install 7.1, why!?!? For the Unixly expert but hardwarily newbie among us, how does one go about underclocking (or overclocking, or in general didldling with the clock)? Is there a reference you could point me to?
Re: [expert] cable modem problems
Which cable modem provider do you have and in what part of the country? Do they require you to use DHCP or do they allow you to have a fixed IP address? Do you have more than one NIC? (If so which ethernet adapter is it assigned to?) What brand and model are your NIC(s)? Is it a one way or two way cable modem? Philip Watson wrote: I can't seem to get my cable modem to work. I believe I have my nic configured right. But it still doesn't seem to work Any help would be appreciated. Thank You Philip Watson
Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start
On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: don't delete while running X server but you safely delete them before running X (and it's what we do in the initscripts). What should the permissions be inside /root/tmp for X stuff ? Mine looks like this... [root: ~/tmp]# ll -d . drwx--2 root root 2048 Jul 6 11:31 ./ [root: ~/tmp]# ll *f -rwx--1 root root 28 Jun 17 16:33 DrakConfdrakboot4HYHxf* -rwx--1 root root 33 Jun 20 00:46 DrakConfdrakfontiYbkff* -rwx--1 root root 28 Jun 27 15:50 DrakConfharddrakehQtGjf* -rwx--1 root root 24 Jun 14 21:21 DrakConflinuxconfgnHUMf* -rwx--1 root root 33 Jun 17 16:29 DrakConfrpmdrake269juf* Thanks... Dan. For /tmp on a system you don't care if it's too insecure, chmod 777 * -R -- -David Talbot Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither. -B. Franklin
RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
Here is my take on all of this, -- snippage quoted from thread -- I cannot install because it does not find xfree86 RPM. I amusing the downloaded iso images and that is what I get and I am then dead, no xfree86, no install. I wish I could install this without X, I tried "Server" and "Normal", I want to install Mandrake 7.1 and then the source for XFree86 4.1, I have tried, custom and expert install, text and normal. I finally just removed the /usr/X11R6 directory (tar -gzed it first) I choose individual packages, and after it is all said and done it tries to put on X. You are totally correct about Windows install being VASTLY better! ahh opinions Ever try an install with windows and a winmodem, an AMD K6-2 400? Win95? ever get a vfat error, bsod while installing? Hard Driver errors? What are you trying to convince us to believe? Well let's (ass)ume you have.. Now can we agree that all operating systems suck equally? There is no "nirvana" OS, Linux just gives you the ability to pick out a 3 piece suit and have it custom tailored. (Instead of the Kmart blue light special: fits everybody's wants and needs in a far from perfect over priced M$ world). Looking over the rest of the post, it makes me wonder what type of system you are running this on? It seems that the older systems do not like Mandrake, Mandrake is for the faster high performance boxes, get Debian, or Slackware if you want the basic necessities and a 386 based install. As far as long posting times, and forever long replies, might I suggest you to find a LUG (Linux User Group) near you. I believe you can find them in the back of "Maximum Linux" magazine, or http://www.linux.com. Sometimes LUG mailing lists, or local peer support will go a lot further in helping you figure out and resolving your problems. Finally, I have to say Mandrake 7.1 is the best release I have seen or reviewed to date. This is just an opinion, don't get your panties all bunched up. If you have a 7.1 ISO and it does not work, pay a measly $7.99 (USA) for "Maximum Linux" which this month came with Mandrake 7.1 Don't worry.. the mud will eventually clear up for you to find the pearl. So long, have a nice day! 8-) John President CLlug - Clarksville Linux Users Group Clarksville, TN http://www.cllug.org P.S. I am not replying to any one person in this thread... the post was to long for me to disect. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
Ever read the HOWTO HOWTO? For the DocBook unaware, there's a big hurdle to overcome if you want to submit it. If there's a way to submit without DocBook, I'm listening since I will have a few things to contribute or update myself. Hoyt DocBook converters work quite nicely if you write in text/HTML. do a search on freshmeat for one. Sean Middleditch
Re: [expert] XFree86 4.01
Anton Graham wrote: Submitted 10-Jul-00 by Sean Middleditch: How trustworthy are these RPM's? For example, the install on MDK 7.1 said the Xfree86 4.0 is was installing was only a 'snapshot release.' The really upsets me if it is, because it sure as hell wasn't advertised as being so... If not, then that's just another example of MDK's poor quality control when it comes to installations. Have you visited www.xfree86.org? XF4 is not ready for primetime according to them, which is why every other distro oly offers XF3. While many of us, myself included, are able to run it with no difficulty, it is experimental sofware, part of being on Mandrake's "bleeding edge," not poor quality control. A snapshot release of XF86 4.0 and the fact that 4.0 isn't ready for prime-time are two different things altogether... a snapshot would mean either a) based off of code before 4.0 was released, which would be unstable, or b) code after 4.0 but before 4.01, in between releases, which would be unstable. Bleeding edge would be a non-snapshot of 4.0. Perhaps they simply mis-used the work snapshot, but it worried me none-the-less. Sean Middleditch
[expert] My HD doesn't want to spin down !!
Hello everybody I have installed Mandrake 7.1 on a i586 (intel PIIX ide controler). The purpose of this computer is "just" firewalling and forwarding so i would like my hard disk to spin down after a few time but even if i specifie a spin down time of 5 seconds (hdparm -S 1 /dev/hda), it doesn't stop. I have check my interrupts (cat /proc/interrupts) and i have noticed that every 5 seconds, 16, 32 or 40 interrupts are added to my ide0 controler (even when i boot using linux -s). What's wrong with the kernel ?? I have the same trouble on my K6-2 + Asus P5A ... I need help because this Hard Disk is really noisy and it doesn't need to spin all the time ... Thanks in advance
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
Hi Bob and all, Bob, this is excellent and works really well! Now if we could get it to initiate kppp ...so you could see the modem traffic and see throughput without looking at the log. Haven't put it in the rc file yet...but works really well from the terminal so far. We are testing it at the moment. Thanks so much, Bambi "Bob Puff@NLE" wrote: Hello people, I just wrote up a file on setting up Dial On Demand with Mandrake 7.x. It provides all the sample files needed. Someone asked about this, so here is the link: http://www.nleaudio.com/bnotes/dialondemand.htm Any comments/suggestions - let me know! Bob Hi Bambi, Thanks! The one thing that still looks like a "bug" to me is that the bytes sent/received recorded in the log for each dial session seem to be cumulative - they don't start at 0 each time you dial out, like I would like to see happen. Also, I wonder how to turn off the verbose logging that pppd is doing... Any ideas? Bob
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
I was wondering. What happens to the connection when the app initiating the connection is closed or dies? Hey Mark, It will connect, probably not transfer any traffic, then disconnect after the idle timeout occurs. Also, for some reason when I tried to start the process of installing this I issued the launch command for the dialer from a terminal window per the instructions and all I was able to get to happen was the modem would continue to dial up the ISP. It wouldn't complete the connection. Any suggestions? Sounds like you need to modify the chat script - could be your ISP doesn't use the same prompts. Follow the suggestion of calling your ISP with a basic term program, and write down the prompts. Also check your /var/log/messages file to see what is going on. Bob
[expert] CD Burning for all users
Hi, I can burn CDs on my machine only as root. Thats very unconvenient. How to let any user burn CDs? Maybe this should be default in the system. -sarang
RE: [expert] X-CD-Roast Audio Burning
What is the brand/type of the reader you are trying to use? It's possible that the drive doesn't support audio ripping (grabbing audio faster than 1x). My Plextor SCSI reader drives support high speed ripping and do appear under the audio-read-device list. AFAIK, all burners (at least SCSI) support high speed audio ripping and should appear in the audio-read-device list. Matthew Zaleski -Original Message- From: Breno F Basilio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 1:59 PM To: Mandrake Expert Subject: [expert] X-CD-Roast Audio Burning Under Setup in X-CD-Roast, ¨CD Setup¨ tab I cannot select my CD-Reader for ¨Audio-Read-Devide¨. It only lists my burner, but under ¨Data-Read-Device¨ both CDROMs are listed. Can anybody help figure out why, or how to fix this? Thanks B
[expert] Replies to list
Has there been a change in the semantics of the list processor for the expert list? I've noticed while trying to reply to messages that the "reply to" is set to the submitter's email and not the expert list address. It's creating fragmented threads when a list member replies to the sender and not to the list. I checked headers from earlier messages (a month ago) on the list and they were correctly listing the "reply to" as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any ideas? Matthew Zaleski
[expert] AIX 4.00 Binary compatability on Linux
Greetings, I have a curios dilemna.. I need to make binaries that Exacute under IBM's AIX ver 4.00 / 4.05. Execute in a Unix/Linux Environment. Does anyone have any Experience or ideas regarding this task? Any information would be appreciated. SwordBlayde
Re: [expert] adding themes w/sawfish and helixgnome
On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 11:14:05AM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: I just wish I could sawfish to run! I wouldn't mind seeing what it looks like, but when I try to access it thru the normal methods nothing happens. Any suggestions? What do you mean by "access it thru the normal methods"? Some more detail would help. FYI, the new sawfish/librep/rep-gtk should be available soon (rebuilding as we speak) and I am currently running it on stock 7.1 install without helixGNOME and it works good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org Current Linux uptime: 12 hours 30 minutes.
[expert] samba + encryption 95/98
i'm setting up samba and it's working nicely with my windows 95 machine. although the logfile says that authentication failed, the shares show up in windows explorer and i can access them based on user etc... on my windows 98 machine, of course, i'm not so lucky. i get the same message in the logfile, but win98 tells me (correctly i assume) that authentication failed and kicks me out. the fix for this would be to either set up samba to use encryption, or win98 to use plain text passwords... what is recommended - i prefer encryption, i assume, but don't want to break anything under win95. suggestions? to make matters worse, i have three machines; both versions of win95, and win98 second edition. are all versions happy with encryption? ...joakim
Re: [expert] how install SO5.2
- Original Message - From: "Fran Parker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John@Aldrich Cc: "John Aldrich" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [expert] SO 5.3 REALLY SO5.2 It is a typo. newest I saw today was staroffice 5.2...had just gone back for the adabas 16meg download today. It installed as easily with the .bin file (after chmod 777 so_filename) as the first .bin file from sun. how do you install so5.2 .bin file again ?(I lost previous emails) Thanks. ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
RE: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found
Normally this is the result of a bad ISO image file or a failure of the burner to properly burn the image to CD. Since you were able to at least get Linux up, you might want to mount the CD-ROM you've created then go to the RPM directory and "verify" all of the RPM's. You'll find that several will fail the test, which results in the problem. I had this happen with my initial ISO download. Dunno why, but the CRC's were good. I grabbed an ISO from another site, reburned, and no problems... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: Gilbert Baron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:32 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found | | | | |-Original Message- |From: Joerg Mertin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:12 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found | | | -Original Message- | From: Gil Baron W0MN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:29 AM | To: AA/MandrakeNewbie | Subject: xfree86 RPM not found | | | I downloaded the inst and ext iso images for Mandrake 7.1 | I burned the cds | I created the Boot disk. | I did the install but when it got to the xfree86 configure portion I got | | Error found xfree86 RPM not found. | |1. You did not tell on what Stage you have this error ? |I am sorry. I thought I provide the information. |I put in the boot disk, I followed the instruction to do the install for |New. |I used Custom and Development. |The error occurs at the Configure X step. |This is the gui installation, as plain as I can be. |I get this error every time. Xfree code itself is there because I did a |select individual packages once just to see and it did not work that time |either. | |2. What Install method did you use ? | |I don't know what you mean unless it was customize and development. That is |what I choose. | |3. Did you complete your install correctly ? | |As far as I could. At the point of the error you are stuck. It tries over |and over and the ONLY choice is to select exit install. After that |I have an |installation but with no GUI. | |4. what Hardware do you have (Graphic Card etc.) ? | |That is not relevant. I have a Viper II card and a 500 MHz P III if it |matters. | |5. If you're unable to ake a Graphical Install, make a Text-Install ? | | |Yeas I got a text install but no xfree86. If that can be installed |by text I |don't know how. After all, I am new here. | |Not beeing happy about something is Ok. But you can belong to those people |who would like to make a change about it, so provide Informations if you |request help. The way you did it, is just wrong. | |I did my best to provide information. it think this now give all you need. |If not, tell me exactly what more you need. As I said, it is just as though |I wane tot he store and got the cds except I burned my own from the iso |images. The inst and ext. |All the code packages load but when It gets to the part o configure x it |give that error. There is something wrong with the RPM or it is missing and |I don't know how to recover. That is what I need OR THEY NEED TO FIX the |files. HOW could they release this with obviously no testing. |I did the EXACT same thing on version 7 and it installed fine but my video |is only VGA so that is why I want 7.1 | | |Also is there any other source of help that is faster. it seems to take AT |LEAST 3 hours for a message to appear after posting it and then of |course at |least 3 hours for the reply plus the time for someone to decide to reply. |Slowest mailing list I know of. | |Provide some Informations, and we might help you. | |I am NOT blaming list members for this, just the list owner. Maybe there is |a reason for it? | | | |TIA | |If I sound frustrated, I AM. I guess I am to used to plugging in |the windows |CD and walking away and coming back 45 minutes later with a new system! |Soory about that, bad week I guess. | | | |Cya |-- |The "cutting edge" is getting rather dull. | -- Andy Purshottam | || Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| || in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| || Stardust's LiNUX System : http://www.solsys.org | || PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Data, Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | | |PGP fingerprint: 6D E9 7B 04 57 7B 65 42 B7 7A D0 AA 69 95 7C E1 | |
Re: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found
But many, many other people have installed 7.1 and they had X. This makes us all suspect that your CDs really *aren't* the same as the pre-pressed ones you buy, *or* it depends on your hardware somehow. The only alternative explanation that comes to mind is that some sort of magical spell was cast on your system. Gilbert Baron wrote: -Original Message- From: Joerg Mertin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found -Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:29 AM To: AA/MandrakeNewbie Subject: xfree86 RPM not found I downloaded the inst and ext iso images for Mandrake 7.1 I burned the cds I created the Boot disk. I did the install but when it got to the xfree86 configure portion I got Error found xfree86 RPM not found. 1. You did not tell on what Stage you have this error ? I am sorry. I thought I provide the information. I put in the boot disk, I followed the instruction to do the install for New. I used Custom and Development. The error occurs at the Configure X step. This is the gui installation, as plain as I can be. I get this error every time. Xfree code itself is there because I did a select individual packages once just to see and it did not work that time either. 2. What Install method did you use ? I don't know what you mean unless it was customize and development. That is what I choose. 3. Did you complete your install correctly ? As far as I could. At the point of the error you are stuck. It tries over and over and the ONLY choice is to select exit install. After that I have an installation but with no GUI. 4. what Hardware do you have (Graphic Card etc.) ? That is not relevant. I have a Viper II card and a 500 MHz P III if it matters. 5. If you're unable to ake a Graphical Install, make a Text-Install ? Yeas I got a text install but no xfree86. If that can be installed by text I don't know how. After all, I am new here. Not beeing happy about something is Ok. But you can belong to those people who would like to make a change about it, so provide Informations if you request help. The way you did it, is just wrong. I did my best to provide information. it think this now give all you need. If not, tell me exactly what more you need. As I said, it is just as though I wane tot he store and got the cds except I burned my own from the iso images. The inst and ext. All the code packages load but when It gets to the part o configure x it give that error. There is something wrong with the RPM or it is missing and I don't know how to recover. That is what I need OR THEY NEED TO FIX the files. HOW could they release this with obviously no testing. I did the EXACT same thing on version 7 and it installed fine but my video is only VGA so that is why I want 7.1 Also is there any other source of help that is faster. it seems to take AT LEAST 3 hours for a message to appear after posting it and then of course at least 3 hours for the reply plus the time for someone to decide to reply. Slowest mailing list I know of. Provide some Informations, and we might help you. I am NOT blaming list members for this, just the list owner. Maybe there is a reason for it? TIA If I sound frustrated, I AM. I guess I am to used to plugging in the windows CD and walking away and coming back 45 minutes later with a new system! Soory about that, bad week I guess. Cya -- The "cutting edge" is getting rather dull. -- Andy Purshottam | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : http://www.solsys.org | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Data, Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | PGP fingerprint: 6D E9 7B 04 57 7B 65 42 B7 7A D0 AA 69 95 7C E1 -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
IMHO Caldera OpenLinux comes a lot closer than Mandrake on this score, though I prefer Mandrake myself. Caldera sacrifies choice and support of really obscure hardare for a smoother experience. But Microsoft does the same thing; Windows 98 wouldn't install on three of the computers I tried it on (though Linux would on all of them). bobby dowling wrote: True. The Windows installation is typically easier than *any* linux distro, even the almighty (and it is, IMHO) Mandrake. Consider the fact that Microsoft spends $$ on employees whose sole purpose is to understand how the computer disinclined people think. Consider the fact that Microsoft founded itself with the purpose of producing an OS that *anyone* can install and use on *any* machine (i386 based mostly). Unix did not start out with that purpose and Linux is just realizing this purpose, but doesn't have the financial backing to support it the way Microsoft has. Linux is for sure on the way however, and Mandrake (IMHO) is really helping to push this. From: "Gil Baron W0MN" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:17:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [216.71.84.35] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBB31D3DD006ED82197E8D847542304BB0; Sun Jul 09 07:14:54 2000 Received: (from sympa@localhost)by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27145for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 09:14:42 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01378 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:17:08 -0500 Received: from cb621265a ([24.6.0.62]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id 2709111713.RZIV1229.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@cb621265a for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 04:17:13 -0700 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 09 07:17:15 2000 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Importance: Normal X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sequence: 133 Precedence: list You are lucky if that is all you have. I cannot install because it does not find xfree86 RPM. I amusing the downloaded iso images and that is what I get and I am then dead, no xfree86, no install. Anybody have a solution? You are totally correct about Windows install being VASTLY better! -Original Message- From: Bob Puff@NLE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1 Hello Dennis, No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3 public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good product (and it is). but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist), and I still think that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or any previous Mandrake release: Well, as someone who had a little experience with 6.1, and recently did several installs of 7.1 (never tried 7.0), I would beg to differ with you big time. There are some significant bugs dealing mostly with the install that I have posted here, but no one has responded. And yes, they will keep 7.1 from installing! Let me see if I can recall these: 1. The CDROM bug: once you get to where it wants disk #2, the cdrom drive will not eject a disk. No way whatsoever to change disks. (I did manage to change the disk by powering down the CDROM drive, but then Linux wouldn't recognize it. Happened with two out of four computers. 2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt is broken - doesn't work at all. 3. The install program starts up running in high resolution, if it sees you have a card that can do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't ask if your monitor can support it, and thus my screen turned to hash, and I was unable to install the program. (Thankfully I had a multisync monitor on another system that I robbed long enough to do the install.) THis should default to 640x480, and ask / let you try higher rez if you want. 4. Setup properly detected my 3com 509 network card, then set up the wrong drivers for it! (Had to change from whatever it had to the 3com 509 driver, what a concept.) 5. Setup did not install the 75dpi or 100dpi fonts, which gave me all sorts of error messages when X tried to start. 6. My monitor type and card must have been
Re: [expert] Lock up with append mem=96M in lilo
Do you have separate video memory or does it come out of the main memory? If the latter, then you ned to subtract your video memory; 88M would be safer than 96M. Ken Thompson wrote: I changed hard drives and installed LM 7.1b3 and found that it had only recognized 64Mb of memory. No problem, just add append "mem=96M" to lilo.conf, I thought to myself, HA... I ran lilo and re-booted and the system locked at "bigmem" with a line something like 0k available in all categories shown. This seems kinda strange as this machine was running LM 7.1b3 perfectly until I changed HDD's. The only difference in the installations is the X-server version, the old HDD had XF-3.3.6 and the new one had XF-4.0 The system is: Celeron 433 (66Mhz clock speed) Abit mainboard Fujitsu 10.0Gb HDD 3 - 32Mb PC-100 SDRAM modules Soundblaster AWE32 RIVA tnt 128 video Realtek 8129 NIC Zoltrix 33.6 hardware internal modem The old HDD was a Western Digital 36400 6.4Gb Nothing has been changed on the system except the hard drive.. Is there a glitch connected to XF4.0 that trashes the mem append in lilo? Any sugestions to fix this problem, or any work arounds? Another thing, hardware configuration seems to always set the NIC to I/O 220 with IRQ 5 - - - that's standard soundcard settings, hm! I tried to change it and am only offered "-1" in either field. Ran linuxconf and set the NIC to ne2k-pci (where I've always had it working before), closed, applied changes, rebooted - can't start eth0. I looked in conf.modules and removed all reference to the earlier listings, still no go. Removed card from system, booted and removed everything from linuxconf and conf.modules related to eth0 and ne2k-pci. Shut down and re-inserted the card and booted the machine. Kudzu found the card and I let it configure it and finished the startup. Still can't start eth0. Screwed around with it until early morning and gave up. Any ideas? Could this also be something with XFree 4.0? I had no trouble setting up memory or NIC when using XFree 3.3.6. I may have to go back to 3.3.6 and see if I still have the trouble. Sorry for the long post but this is very strange and has me baffled. -- Ken Thompson Electrocom Computer Services 1801 Wayne Dr. Payette, Idaho 83661 Ph. (208) 642-7101 (888) 642-7101 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Computer Sales - Service and Repair Internet Web Site Design -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
[expert] My screen rolls. X loses vertical lock.
I just installed 7.1 on my 466MHz Intel celery box. The video card is a 3dfx Doodoo 3 3000 AGP. If the machine sits idle for a few minutes the screen starts to roll (and the image is bowed). Moving the mouse snaps it back. Is this just the worlds ugliest screensaver or is something wrong? It happens in both XFree 3.3 and 4.0. The SVGA server was selected by the install script. It looks like one of those old TV's when you tweaked the Vertical Lock knob. Art.
[expert] More Error Messages!
Hi Gang, I solved a couple of the problems I last reported. Have two more that I still can't resolve: #1. upon bootup, I get the following: rc: Starting kheader failed Everything else loads OK. What is KHEADER? I must have broken this recently, as it worked before. #2. I get a warning from Apache telling me I need a SUEXEC wrapper. I have the SUEXEC package installed. Ideas? Here is the context of my bootup woes: postfix: Starting postfix: Jul 10 21:41:16 r1 rc: Starting postfix succeeded Jul 10 21:41:16 r1 gpm: gpm startup succeeded Jul 10 21:41:23 r1 httpd: Warning: User directive in VirtualHost requires SUEXEC wrapper. Jul 10 21:41:23 r1 httpd: [Mon Jul 10 21:41:23 2000] [warn] NameVirtualHost 10.1.0.1:80 has no VirtualHosts Jul 10 21:41:23 r1 httpd: httpd startup succeeded Jul 10 21:41:23 r1 numlock: Starting NumLock: Jul 10 21:41:23 r1 numlock: Jul 10 21:41:24 r1 rc: Starting numlock succeeded Jul 10 21:41:25 r1 start: Starting Webmin server in /usr/share/webmin Jul 10 21:41:26 r1 webmin: Starting Webmin succeeded Jul 10 21:41:28 r1 xfs: xfs startup succeeded Jul 10 21:41:29 r1 rc: Starting kheader failed Jul 10 21:41:29 r1 linuxconf: Linuxconf final setup My machine name is r1, and I have the http server responding at 10.1.0.1. Bob P.S. Please reply to me directly, as well as the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] X problems in 7.0
Hi. I've been looking around for the answer to this little problem and haven't fount it, so if this has been answered before just point me to the link, ok? that's good :) Have you tried to start xkobo on MDK7.0? it won't let you. The error message is Xlib: connection to "unix:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xlwin: can't open display Yes, i know that doing a "xhost +localhost" makes it work, but the Remote-X-Apps HOWTO mentions that xhost is vulnerable to ip-address spoofing and similars, and mixing the xauth authentication model with xhost is not a good idea IMHO (kinda defeats the purpose). And the X forwarding of openssh suffers from that too: if i connect to each other as root, i can forward connections, but not as user. So, what shall i do about this? - "We will run this with the same kind of openness we have run Windows" Steve Ballmer on their new .net service Jaime Herazo B. at the Colegio Cristiano J. Vender Murphy --
[expert] i810 and MDK 7.0
Hi. (Posted this yesterday,but it doen't seem to went to the list) How to get i810 workin Mandrake 7.0? Can I use XFree rpm from Mandrake 7.1 and upgrade it? And,which one to use, 3.3.6 or 4.0 ? Thanks -lz Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..
Hoyt wrote: Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help. Hoyt This is *EXACTLY* what I was looking for..! Thanks! However, I do have question for anyone here.. I know that the CD rom is hdc.. This how-to says to add hdd=ide-scsi to lilo.. But, I allready HAVE a hdd, being an atapi zip on ide 2 which is shared with cd. IDE 1 has 2 HD's.. Master ( 8 gig, win/beOS ) Slave ( 7 gig, linux ) IDE 2, Master ( CD ) , slave zip100. Do I need to make this say hde=ide-scsi?? Thanks. Alan -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Running RedHat Linux 6.2 and/or BeOS 5.0. No Windows involved -
[expert] Just got a Sparc Ultra 10 440Mhz w/256MB RAM
It came in today w/ a 19" monitor and a PC co-processor PCI card w/98 installed. Sould I leave this Solaris on it, or try the Mandrake? Does anyone know if it'll run on this machine? Will it render my co-processor card useless? It'll be nice when I can run LM on my PIII, my G4, and my Sparc 10! I am looking forward to it. BTW. I compiled a kernel for both my pc and mac with firewire support. It worked flawlessly on the mac(Yellow Dog Linux), but the PC(LM 7.1) keeps thinking it is a USB card. I can do the USB view and see my Gravis, my printer(also parallel), and a hard drive. I don't have a USB hard drive, I do however have a Firewire hard drive. Anyone know how to remedy this?
Re: [expert] backround processes
On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Civileme wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:34:12 -0800 From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] backround processes Deryk Barker wrote: Thus spake Janar Kokk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I think you didn't understood my question. I want to not allow my machine's users to run any backround processes such as eggdrop etc You can use ulimit to limit the number of processes, but don't set it to 1 or they won't be able to run *anything* - bash (and other shells) fork a new process for each command. And, to worsen matters, how would they run some of the ordinary programs that use background processes? I think it might be a bit to embedded to exclude. OTOH, if you have a list of what you do not want users to run... Easily done with permissions. If I remember correctly, ulimit has a rather poor manpage. It can control mem usage/processes, but is enforced by your shell(bash). I was trying to use it to control runaway processes such as Netscape, and nasty cookbook lockups such as a fork bomb or malloc bomb. I think that if a program tries to fork bomb in a clever way, or a malloc bomb, it may be able to act faster than the shell can stop it. And with ulimit, what about netscape? It runs as a child of a library process and each netscape window Errrk. Guess you wouldn't have asked if it was easy to figure out :-}. Civileme -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 11
Re: [expert] backround processes
Thus spake Ellick Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [...] If I remember correctly, ulimit has a rather poor manpage. I'll say. Basically it says see bash. It can control mem usage/processes, but is enforced by your shell(bash). I was trying to use it to control runaway processes such as Netscape, and nasty cookbook lockups such as a fork bomb or malloc bomb. I think that if a program tries to fork bomb in a clever way, or a malloc bomb, it may be able to act faster than the shell can stop it. I had to use this recently because we had students writing forking lab assignments which ran away. ulimit did actually control this. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
RE: [expert] install problem: partition detection
Taking his advice one step further: Using the Linux fdisk, change your extended partition from type Win95 to type Win95 LBA. I did this and upon reboot the entire drive was visible to Windows. Win95/98 can see large drives even if the BIOS can't. Why it doesn't default to creating LBA extended partitions is beyond me. On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, you wrote: I've got a 13 gig Maxtor drive, and I'll give you the same advice I was given when I asked this question. Don't use the MaxBlast software. Basically, let Windows and the BIOS think that there are only 8 gig (or however many your BIOS can see). Linux, specifically LILO and Grub, don't need this software and can see the full hard drive just fine. The one thing you will want to do, if you're not running 7.1 or don't have the latest LILO is to make a small /boot partition near the front of the drive. Fortunately, LILO was changed recently to remove the 1024 cylinder restriction, making this unnecessary. Hope that helps. Wayne -Original Message- From: Jonathan Wolfgang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 12:00 AM To: Mandrake Expert Subject: [expert] install problem: partition detection Hello, I have a 20 gig Maxtor hard drive installed in my pc. The BIOS does not recognize the full capacity of the drive so I am using their release of EZ-Drive called MaxBlast. Naturally, Windows works fine. I have Partition Magic 5.0 Pro and have partitioned the drive for FAT32 and also Ext2 file systems. When trying to install Mandrake 7.1, the partition program only shows one large FAT32 partition and a tiny 7 MB partition at the end of the drive. I'm assuming this is due to MaxBlast being installed on the drive. If I press the "restore partition table" button (in Expert Install Mode) the Ext2 partitions are shown, but the remaining FAT32 partition is shown as a blank or empty partition. I am not brave enough to continue the installation because I am afraid that my Windows partition will be destroyed. I have checked for a BIOS upgrade, but the most recent one available is from 1997 and does not mention anything about large hard drive detection. I have previously installed RedHat 6.1 with the exact same partitioning scheme and it detected everything properly. I am wondering if there is any command that can be passed to the installation routine that can help this. Is there an updated boot disk that may help the partition detection? Many thanks, Jon
[expert] APC Back-UPS and Network Shutdown
I have two machines running Mandrake (7.1 and 6.1) attached to an APC Back-UPS 650. Before the system drive (recently) crashed on the machine running Mandrake 7.1 I got APC's simple signaling daemon (ssd) to work, but I had problems getting any other daemons to talk to the UPS over the serial port. (I put another hard drive and recovered most of my data off of backups minus my UPS configuration.) The question that I have is does anyone have experience setting up one of the packages to do network shutdown under Linux with Mandrake? If so do you have any tips on setting it up?
Re: [expert] backround processes
Deryk Barker wrote: Thus spake Ellick Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [...] If I remember correctly, ulimit has a rather poor manpage. I'll say. Basically it says see bash. Which limits its utility a bit. I, for one, get: ulimit ulimit: Command not found. Why? Becuase I use tcsh . . . Besides the whole ulimit thing, as noted elsewhere--indeed the idea of banning all background process--makes an awful lot of Unix rather useless. Unix is designed for forking process, and this happens in lots of places where you might not expect it. Perhaps the original poster could clarify just why he wants to do this? If it's really only specific applications you want to limit, then either delete them from the system or deny execute permissions to world, and add the "blessed users" to whatever group you assign to those files. If you truly want to ban "" then the only way to do that is to get the source to bash (or whatever shell you choose) and delete the code that handles the "" character. This will still break programs written in shell script that use , but most programs will be ok because they will call fork() explicitly. Then you'd have to remove (or deny permissions to) all other editors on your system. You'd also have to remove the c compiler (and probably perl and other languages as well) since they could still write a fork() function themselves. And prevent access to the internet, for with such access they could download working versions of all the stuff you were busy trying to break . . . And all this just to remove functionality that's fundamental to Unix. Ah dunno. Seems odd to me . . . It can control mem usage/processes, but is enforced by your shell(bash). I was trying to use it to control runaway processes such as Netscape, and nasty cookbook lockups such as a fork bomb or malloc bomb. I think that if a program tries to fork bomb in a clever way, or a malloc bomb, it may be able to act faster than the shell can stop it. I had to use this recently because we had students writing forking lab assignments which ran away. ulimit did actually control this. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] X problems in 7.0
My default value for $DISPLAY is :0.0 rather than unix:0.0 Perhaps this accounts for it? I don't have a clue, I must admit, what xbobo is. Are you running this on the local machine in fact? What if you change DISPLAY to :0.0? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've been looking around for the answer to this little problem and haven't fount it, so if this has been answered before just point me to the link, ok? that's good :) Have you tried to start xkobo on MDK7.0? it won't let you. The error message is Xlib: connection to "unix:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xlwin: can't open display Yes, i know that doing a "xhost +localhost" makes it work, but the Remote-X-Apps HOWTO mentions that xhost is vulnerable to ip-address spoofing and similars, and mixing the xauth authentication model with xhost is not a good idea IMHO (kinda defeats the purpose). And the X forwarding of openssh suffers from that too: if i connect to each other as root, i can forward connections, but not as user. So, what shall i do about this? - "We will run this with the same kind of openness we have run Windows" Steve Ballmer on their new .net service Jaime Herazo B. at the Colegio Cristiano J. Vender Murphy -- -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
RE: [expert] backround processes
Have you thought about just turfing those users who won't play by the rules? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian T. Schellenberger Sent: July 12, 2000 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] backround processes Deryk Barker wrote: Thus spake Ellick Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [...] If I remember correctly, ulimit has a rather poor manpage. I'll say. Basically it says see bash. Which limits its utility a bit. I, for one, get: ulimit ulimit: Command not found. Why? Becuase I use tcsh . . . Besides the whole ulimit thing, as noted elsewhere--indeed the idea of banning all background process--makes an awful lot of Unix rather useless. Unix is designed for forking process, and this happens in lots of places where you might not expect it. Perhaps the original poster could clarify just why he wants to do this? If it's really only specific applications you want to limit, then either delete them from the system or deny execute permissions to world, and add the "blessed users" to whatever group you assign to those files. If you truly want to ban "" then the only way to do that is to get the source to bash (or whatever shell you choose) and delete the code that handles the "" character. This will still break programs written in shell script that use , but most programs will be ok because they will call fork() explicitly. Then you'd have to remove (or deny permissions to) all other editors on your system. You'd also have to remove the c compiler (and probably perl and other languages as well) since they could still write a fork() function themselves. And prevent access to the internet, for with such access they could download working versions of all the stuff you were busy trying to break . . . And all this just to remove functionality that's fundamental to Unix. Ah dunno. Seems odd to me . . . It can control mem usage/processes, but is enforced by your shell(bash). I was trying to use it to control runaway processes such as Netscape, and nasty cookbook lockups such as a fork bomb or malloc bomb. I think that if a program tries to fork bomb in a clever way, or a malloc bomb, it may be able to act faster than the shell can stop it. I had to use this recently because we had students writing forking lab assignments which ran away. ulimit did actually control this. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
