Re: [expert] Perl scripts won't work???

2000-10-24 Thread Daniel Woods

Sam,

> Hey, so I'm having a weird problem maybe someone can help me with.
> I have a simple perl script named test.cgi that generates html (ie a cgi
> script) which looks like
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> # hello.pl -- my first perl script!
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> print <<"EOF";
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> EOF
> 
> If I type "perl test.cgi" (minus the quotes) the perl script runs.  If I
> type "./test.cgi" I got the error "bash: ./test.cgi: No such file or
> directory"
> If I remove the #!/usr/bin/perl line from the beginning of the perl script
> and "./test.cgi" again it runs but gives a lot of file not found errors.
> I'm guessing that somewhere there is an environment variable I am missing or
> something...  I have perl 5.6 installed and Mandrake 7.1 with the 2.2.16
> kernel.
> Any suggestions???
> 
> Thanks
> Sam

I got bitten by this in my early days of Perl on Linux...
Note the output (xx.pl is your script copy/pasted into it, chmod 711)...

# the following 3 commands give the same output
[DW] $ perl xx.pl
[DW] $ ./xx.pl
[DW] $ perl xx2.pl
Content-type: text/html



Hello, world!


Hello, world!



[DW] $ ./xx2.pl
bash: ./xx2.pl: No such file or directory

Hey, what happened to ./xx2.pl ?

[DW] $ ll xx*
-rwx--1 dwoods   dwoods205 Oct 24 23:29 xx.pl*
-rwx--1 dwoods   dwoods218 Oct 24 23:29 xx2.pl*
-rw---1 dwoods   dwoods264 Oct 24 23:31 xx2.pl.zip

xx.pl is your script. I uploaded it to Windows, zipped, downloaded it
back (xx2.pl.zip), unzipped it to give me xx2.pl ;)

Figured it out ?  That's right, ftp'ing a zip file and unzipping it
on Linux will retain the Windows end-of-line markers (CR/LF). *nix
only uses LF (newline).  If you use vi/vim on xx2.pl, you'll see a
'[dos]' comment in the status line (bottom). If you use 'cat -v xx2.pl',
you'll see the '^M' at the end. If you compare xx.pl and xx2.pl by using
'od =a xx.pl' and 'od -a xx.pl2', you'll see 'cr' in xx2.pl .

So how do we convert it ?
You could gzip your file, upload to windows, unzip it, download the unzipped
file, and then ./xx2.pl will work (chmod 711).
You could go to rpmfind.net and look for dos2unix.rpm (and unix2dos) files.
However I prefer to do this simple trick
[DW] $ tr -d '\r' xx2ok.pl
[DW] $ chmod 711 xx2ok.pl
[DW] $ ./xx2ok.pl

Moral of the story... if you download zip files onto Linux, be sure to use
unzip -a file # see: man unzip
Or unzip on windows, and then your ftp program will convert line endings
on text files.

Thanks... Dan.




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Re: [expert] processor family

2000-10-24 Thread Marcus

Just do a uname -a.  It will tell you which processor family it is.  I have a 
AMD-K6-500  which is i586 (So yours probably to).  I once tried to install 
i686.rpm packages but rpm refused it because I it was complaining about 
invalid architecture.  I believe it is possible to put K6 i.s.o. i586 or 
something like that in your configuration file but I never tried that.  I 
never compile the kernel anymore because it is almost all modules now and 
everything works 100% for me without compiling. I just install the binary 
kernel/modules.

Regards,
Marcus

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, you wrote:

> > When compiling kernel 2.2.15 in mandrake 7.1 deluxe where would the amd
> k6-2/350 processor fit in?(processor family).
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>  Tony


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Re: [expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

Gerald Williams wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday 25 October 2000 06:51, you wrote:
> 
> > > Thanks.  It still also resides in SOME (very few) kde mirrors.
> >
> > Here's the big question...did you actually install it and get it
> > working?
> 
> I did, and it works okay
> 
> > After downloading and installing, all was wrong with the world.  First,
> > installing it, even with menu-3.0.5-43mdk installed, it segfaults during
> > the rpm install on /usr/bin/upgrade-menus.  Both qt2 and kde rpms
> > segfault
> > it.  Once it IS all installed, the systqt2installerror.txtem is broken.  SOME 
>things work,
> > most
> > do not.
> 
> While you do need to update a few, again, a few files, it's not a major
> problem. You do NOT need the latest glibc from cooker or the latest gcc2.96
> compiler.  FUD does not help. Nuff said.


Not fud, it is a factual description of what is happening with my
system.
As for gcc, you do not NEED to have gcc but then, you will not be doing
any compiling if you don't have it.

I have a fully updated 7.1 system.  I have menu-2.1.5-43mdk installed.
That is as high as I can go without upgrading glibc to 2.1.95 (or
higher).
The problem?  OK, installing qt2, the updated one that is required for
kde 2.0 results in this:

qt2
##
var/tmp/rpm-tmp.59425: line 2: 14222 Segmentation fault  (core
dumped) /usr/bin/update-menus
qt2-devel  
##
var/tmp/rpm-tmp.93066: line 1: 14224 Segmentation fault  (core
dumped) /usr/bin/update-menus

This problem is with menu.  If menu-2.1.5-36mdk is not ok, and
menu-2.1.5-43mdk is not ok,
and menu-2.1.5-43mdk is not ok (I have gone thru each and every one of
them
trying to fix THIS particular problem), then that leaves one more
possibility...
menu-4.0.  Menu-4.0 REQUIRES glibc-2.1.95.  Glibc-2.1.95 WILL screw up
your system UNLESS
you are already running 7.2beta or Cooker.  Neither of these is a
logical nor reasonable
system to run if you want ANY reliability.  They are betas and even
alphas for a reason.
They are NOT finished products.  They DO have problems yet to be worked
out.

I get the above errors also installing most of the kde 2.0 rpms.  The
resulting kde
setup is buggy as hell.  KDM starts up and works...sortof.  I can get to
kde and
gnome, but I cannot get to failsafe.  The kde session I get is all but
useless.
There are icons on the desktop, as per normal, harddrive/mount icons,
printer icon,
startup folder icon, home icon, trash icon, etc.  Not a one of the drive
icons 
works.  Clicking on them neither mounts the drive nor opens the kfm file
browser
to see what is on the mount.  Instead, a dialog comes up asking what app
I want
to use to open it (!?).  The kmenu contains some items in it and half of
them
are non-functional INSPITE of the fact that they are installed.  The run
item in
the kmenu is totally non-functional.  Entering ANY command results in no
action
whatsoever.  The panel settings menu item does absolutely nothing.

For further evidence, there is the FACT that all but one or two sites
have 
removed the rpms for kde 2.0 from them.  That is a stone-cold,
undeniable fact.
Yesterday, after the announcement of the release, the rpms were
EVERYWHERE.  Today,
they are hard to come by.  There is very likely a good reason for that.

There is nothing bizarre about my system.  It is Mandrake 7.1 with
updates brought
on via MandrakeUpdate.  There are few items built by myself WITHOUT
error and
installed without error and they work perfectly (the kernel, for
instance).  

There is no FUD here, only objective description of what I see.  It
matches 
what some others have indicated themselves in this mailing list.  It
also matches
well with what you can find in newsgroups.

Cooker, as of this evening (and last I checked) no longer carries
kde-2.0 rpms.
It is kde-1.99.  Mandrake 7.2beta doesn't carry them.  I do not believe
I saw 2.0
rpms in rawhide either (and it was there previously).  The 2.0 rpms are
no longer
in MOST of the kde mirror sites.  They were in all of them yesterday (I
checked
a large number of them as I tried to find a site that was available).  

praedor



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[expert] processor family

2000-10-24 Thread Anthony F. Littrel Sr.

When compiling kernel 2.2.15 in mandrake 7.1 deluxe where would the amd
k6-2/350 processor fit in?(processor family).


Thanks in advance,
 Tony




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Re: [expert] Multiple IP Addresses on Linux

2000-10-24 Thread Cecil Watson

ifconfig eth0:x w.x.y.z

The first x should be a numerical value, if you wanted 5 virtual IPs you 
would start at 0 and work your way up:
ifconfig eth0:0
ifconfig eth0:1
ifconfig eth0:2
etc...

Or using linuxconf or webmin.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, you wrote:

> > Hello,
> I need to set up a Hardware Virtual Server.  Can someone tell me how to
> assign the server multiple IP addresses? Thanks for you help,
> Dave Peat
> Registered User #184784


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[expert] Software RAID on root fs

2000-10-24 Thread Marcus

Hello,

I am planning on Trying to configure my linux box as a (Software) RAID 1 box. 
 The only problem I saw was that you cannot just make your root filesystem 
("/")  as a RAID.  Why is that (what's the point of having RAID if your root 
filesystem is not redundant).

I noticed that there are several work arounds on the internet.  Has anyone 
ever tried this?  Please let me know.  Any information on (software) RAID is 
welcome because I never did this before.  

Marcus




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Re: [expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread Marcus

I just downloaded it from ftp.kde.org .   You can also download it from one 
of it's mirrors if the server is full.

Marcus

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, you wrote:

> > Real nice.  Yesterday, kde releases, finally, the stable,
> final kde-2.0.  Yesterday you could download it from
> mandrake cooker, from rpmfind, from every mirror
> known to man.  Today?
>
> It's totally gone.  Vanished.  NO mirror has it.  It
> no longer exists.  Has ANYONE downloaded the set?
>
> Could you upload it to a mirror somewhere so people
> can actually get it again?
>
> praedor


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Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-24 Thread Marcus

Check ftp.kde.org.  all the file you need are located there.  I personally 
needed upgrade from pam-07.2-9 to pam-0.72-12  because otherwise kdm does not 
allow logins anymore (that is a little bit anoying).

Marcus

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, you wrote:

> > Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my
> Mandrake 7.1
>
> system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome
>
> Cheers
>
> Aravind S


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RE: [expert] WPO 2000/PhotoPaint on LM 7.1?

2000-10-24 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt


>Question: how should I interpret the relative silence of  this list about
>WPO 2000.
>Several possibilities come to my mind:

>- (different from Larry Marshall and me) there is consensus that WPO 2000
>is a bad product and nearly no one has bought it.

I have it, used it on 7.1 and like it a lot.  I'm now using the beta /
cooker versions of Mandrake and honestly haven't had the time to load it
back up.

>
>- there is a much better Office product. Which?

The Office products for Linux are not as evolved as the solutions that you
will find for Windows, that's just the way it is.  Yes, everyone has their
opinion on this, so please don't everyone attack.  It's pretty much a
toss-up over which features are on which product, but I think at this point,
it's between StarOffice and Corel WPO2000.

>
>- (different from Larry Marshall) there is general consensus about
>mandrake: don't use it for WPO 2000.
>
>Joachim
>
Mike




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[expert] Wordperfect 2000 and 7.1

2000-10-24 Thread Philip R. Moyer


I've got Mandrake 7.1 running, and I've installed Wordperfect 2000
Deluxe (using the new install script from the web site), but I have
two problems.

First, there's no real useful information about how to configure
a printer.  Does anyone have any advice on how to do it?  When I first
installed WP on UNIX, it was in about 1991 on Solaris (actually, it might
have been SunOS), and at the time, printer support was so bad I
had to write a shell script to read /etc/printcap and convert it
into the internal WP printer config file format.  We also had over
200 printers on the network, too.  :-)  I don't mind hacking up
the config files, if that's what it takes.

Second, every so often, when I exit Wordperfect, the entire system hangs
hard, and requires a power cycle to fix it.  If I want that kind of
reliablility, I'll use Windows.  Has anyone else run into this, and, if
so, have the found a fix?

Cheers,
Phil



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RE: [expert] raid / reiserfs

2000-10-24 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt


>P.S. From what I can remember, the Promise ATA->RAID hack is the
>addition of the right resistor in the right place (which will cost you
>about 5c).

Exactly, it costs 29.99 (+shipping and sales tax) for the card (5c for the
resistor), then the time to do the work.  This guy is selling the cards
modified with a 30 day guarantee for $35 + $5 for shipping and you can
deduct $10 if you send cash for a total of $30 - no tax.  That's a savings
of 4c (a little more if you count the tax and time it would take to do it
yourself).




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Re: [expert] kpackage problems

2000-10-24 Thread Larry Marshall


>   I have recently installed 7.2beta2 and have noticed an alarming tendency in
> kpackage to segfault and die on me at any given opportunity. Is anyone else
> experiencing this kind of problem, 

Yes, I had a problem with it while playing with 7.2

>and what is the way to get around it? I

The only one I can think of is not to rely upon beta versions of software
to function properly.  If they did they wouldn't be beta.

> have tried other packaging programs and they aren't as easy to manipulate as
> kpackage (especially gnorpm). Maybe there is a better way. Suggestions?

LM is surely more concerned about making rpmDrake run than kpackage.
You might try that.

Cheers --- Larry





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Re: [expert] WPO 2000/PhotoPaint on LM 7.1?

2000-10-24 Thread Larry Marshall


> Question: how should I interpret the relative silence of  this list about
> WPO 2000.

It's a list about Mandrake Linux that's most filled with programmers?

> - (different from Larry Marshall and me) there is consensus that WPO 2000
> is a bad product and nearly no one has bought it.

People who haven't bought the program shouldn't be a good source of
opinions, whether they be positive or negative. 

> - there is a much better Office product. Which?

Star Office is very robust (though Adobe font-oriented) and open
source.  As long as WPO is Wine-dependent it will not be favored by most I
think.  

Cheers --- Larry





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Re: [expert] HPLX 200 sync in linux?

2000-10-24 Thread Jeff Malka

That is a problem in itself!  I can get dosemu to start up in its default
fictitious directory but cannot change directories to any other partition
and therefore gave up on it :-(


Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Registered Linux user  183185


> Sounds like a job for dosemu.






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[expert] Multiple IP Addresses on Linux

2000-10-24 Thread Dave Peat



Hello,
I need to set up a Hardware Virtual Server.  Can someone 
tell me how to assign the server multiple IP addresses?
Thanks for you help,
Dave Peat
Registered User #184784


Re: [expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
> 
> What if we trailing-edge types totally deinstall our 1.1.x
> systems, then try to install kde2 from source?
> 

You could try.  When I did the attempt, the indications were that
it would REPLACE your kde-1.1.2.  In my experience, it did replace
everything except kdebase-1.1.2.  EVERYTHING else was replaced.

This led to a double kdebase which was real screwy.  I uninstalled
the kdebase-1.1.2 manually and reinstalled kde 2.0.  It worked
better, such as that goes, but it was nearly useless.  It just looked
a little better at being useless.

Give it a shot and let me know...  I am always wondering if there
is some small squirrelly thing wrong with my system.
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Re: [expert] Configuring a Hotmail account

2000-10-24 Thread Cecil Watson

Good luck!  If you can retrieve your "Hotmail" w/ Outlook with is probably 
some built in hook that M$ put in to Outlook and I doubt it will work with 
any other email client.If the setting in Outlook (for Hotmail) is in the 
same place that the setting for your regular POP/IMAP server, you might be 
able to insert the same setting in your email client and see if that works.  
Good luck,

Cecil  
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, you wrote:

> > Hi people,
>
> A lot of people has an account in Hotmail. This account can be accessed
> via web, or with Outlook, you can download the messages (this is that a
> friend say).
> The question is with Outlook, this is configured that in the pop server
> option, a address with a asp code. Well, however, how you can do it
> with, netscape, or kmail?
>
> Could anyone explain if it it's possible to configure with linux and
> how?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Leo
>
>
> --
> Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
>
> Linux User 152692
> Catalonia


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Re: [expert] Perl scripts won't work???

2000-10-24 Thread Aaron Dancygier

junkmail wrote:

> Hey, so I'm having a weird problem maybe someone can help me with.
> I have a simple perl script named test.cgi that generates html (ie a cgi
> script) which looks like
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> # hello.pl -- my first perl script!
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> print <<"EOF";
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> EOF
>
> If I type "perl test.cgi" (minus the quotes) the perl script runs.  If I
> type "./test.cgi" I got the error "bash: ./test.cgi: No such file or
> directory"
> If I remove the #!/usr/bin/perl line from the beginning of the perl script
> and "./test.cgi" again it runs but gives a lot of file not found errors.
> I'm guessing that somewhere there is an environment variable I am missing or
> something...  I have perl 5.6 installed and Mandrake 7.1 with the 2.2.16
> kernel.
> Any suggestions???
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam
>
>   
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Oh I forgot remember to make your script executable chmod a+x test.cgi

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Re: [expert] Perl scripts won't work???

2000-10-24 Thread Aaron Dancygier

from the command line type which perl and make sure you have the correct path
in your script.
Try running the program from your web browser (assuming your webserver is
properly set up).


As a side note for a cgi script I'd recommend using CGI.pm.
with cgi.pm this script would become

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;
use CGI;

my $q = new CGI;

print $q->header(),
  $q->start_html(-title=>'Hello world!'),
  $q->h1('Hello world'),
  $q->end_html;

neater and cleaner without  here docs.
CGI.pm is an awseome module It gives great insight into learning basic object
use in perl.


Aaron Dancygier

junkmail wrote:

> Hey, so I'm having a weird problem maybe someone can help me with.
> I have a simple perl script named test.cgi that generates html (ie a cgi
> script) which looks like
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> # hello.pl -- my first perl script!
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> print <<"EOF";
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> EOF
>
> If I type "perl test.cgi" (minus the quotes) the perl script runs.  If I
> type "./test.cgi" I got the error "bash: ./test.cgi: No such file or
> directory"
> If I remove the #!/usr/bin/perl line from the beginning of the perl script
> and "./test.cgi" again it runs but gives a lot of file not found errors.
> I'm guessing that somewhere there is an environment variable I am missing or
> something...  I have perl 5.6 installed and Mandrake 7.1 with the 2.2.16
> kernel.
> Any suggestions???
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam
>
>   
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Re: [expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread Gerald Williams

On Wednesday 25 October 2000 06:51, you wrote:

> > Thanks.  It still also resides in SOME (very few) kde mirrors.
>
> Here's the big question...did you actually install it and get it
> working?

I did, and it works okay


> After downloading and installing, all was wrong with the world.  First,
> installing it, even with menu-3.0.5-43mdk installed, it segfaults during
> the rpm install on /usr/bin/upgrade-menus.  Both qt2 and kde rpms
> segfault
> it.  Once it IS all installed, the system is broken.  SOME things work,
> most
> do not.

While you do need to update a few, again, a few files, it's not a major 
problem. You do NOT need the latest glibc from cooker or the latest gcc2.96 
compiler.  FUD does not help. Nuff said.

Jerry

-- 
Gerald Williams -- Words Matter!
Bangkok, Thailand



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Re: [expert] WPO 2000/PhotoPaint on LM 7.1?

2000-10-24 Thread Joachim von Jena



Larry Marshall wrote:

> > I have no problems anymore  under SuSE 6.4 (SMP kernels: 2.2.14 or
> > 2.2.17) with WPO 2000 (german) or PhotoPaint (english) after finding
> > Corel's install script for non-Debian distros.
>
> My brain just integrated this.  I've got a "Red Hat" distribution with
> my WPO CD.  Are you talking about the basic .setup script that
> installs ALL versions or something else?

The install script for non-Debian distros is on Corel's WPO 2000 for Linux
website.

Joachim




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Re: [expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

What if we trailing-edge types totally deinstall our 1.1.x
systems, then try to install kde2 from source?

Ron
Praedor Tempus wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  It still also resides in SOME (very few) kde mirrors.
> 
> Here's the big question...did you actually install it and get it
> working?
> 
> After downloading and installing, all was wrong with the world.  First,
> installing it, even with menu-3.0.5-43mdk installed, it segfaults during
> the rpm install on /usr/bin/upgrade-menus.  Both qt2 and kde rpms
> segfault
> it.  Once it IS all installed, the system is broken.  SOME things work,
> most
> do not.
> 
> Looking deeper into it, even though I got NO dependency missing
> messages,
> it appears that you HAVE to "upgrade" just about every rpm on your
> system
> to 7.2beta or Cooker level - all because you need to upgrade menu,
> apparently,
> even beyond menu-2.1.5-43mdk, because of the segfaults on
> upgrade-menus.  To
> upgrade menu, to 4.0, which is all that is left, you must upgrade glibc
> to
> glibc-2.1.95 or 2.1.96.  Doing THIS will break all the other rpms on
> your
> system, so you must upgrade them as well.
> 
> It APPEARS that the "stable" kde 2.0 cannot be used except on an
> unstable,
> beta-only distro like 7.2beta or Cooker.  There is a README I read on
> one
> mirror yesterday that indicated you could run kde 2.0 on other mandrake
> versions, but you had to upgrade a few rpms (pam, menu, a COUPLE
> others).
> Problem is, it is NOT a few rpms.  As I described above, to "simply"
> upgrade
> menu alone requires an entire cascade of other upgrades to satisfy
> dependencies.
> 
> At least with RedHat, though they offer glibc-2.1.95 (and 2.1.96) they
> ALSO
> have a glibc-compat rpm NOT for OLD glibc, but for the previous glibc
> that
> was in RedHat 6.2, which is essentially 2.1.3.  No such beast exists for
> Mandrake so if you upgrade glibc to upgrade menu to install kde 2.0, you
> break everything.  In for a penny, in for a pound.
> 
> praedor
> 
> philomena wrote:
> >
> > here's one...
> >
> > http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/2.0/distribution/rpm/Mandrake/
> >
> > Praedor Tempus wrote:
> > >
> > > Real nice.  Yesterday, kde releases, finally, the stable,
> > > final kde-2.0.  Yesterday you could download it from
> > > mandrake cooker, from rpmfind, from every mirror
> > > known to man.
> [...]

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[expert] Perl scripts won't work???

2000-10-24 Thread junkmail

Hey, so I'm having a weird problem maybe someone can help me with.
I have a simple perl script named test.cgi that generates html (ie a cgi
script) which looks like

#!/usr/bin/perl
# hello.pl -- my first perl script!
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print <<"EOF";


Hello, world!


Hello, world!


EOF

If I type "perl test.cgi" (minus the quotes) the perl script runs.  If I
type "./test.cgi" I got the error "bash: ./test.cgi: No such file or
directory"
If I remove the #!/usr/bin/perl line from the beginning of the perl script
and "./test.cgi" again it runs but gives a lot of file not found errors.
I'm guessing that somewhere there is an environment variable I am missing or
something...  I have perl 5.6 installed and Mandrake 7.1 with the 2.2.16
kernel.
Any suggestions???

Thanks

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Re: [expert] gcc/g++ & kde1-compat problems

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

Benjamin Ellis wrote:
[...]
> Also, is there a way to perserve desktop icon layout and panel launcher
> settings when updating to kde2.0 final?  I've reinstalled mandrake-desk,
> setup, and initscripts and it still doesn't look the way it did when i first
> installed.  The launcher icons don't point to anything and most of the KDE
> apps are missing from the menu.


I can't help you with your compile problems but as for kde 2.0final.  I
do 
believe it is major-league broken.  If you check you will also see that
almost
EVERY single site that had the rpms yesterday no longer have them. 
There
are only a couple of sites that still has them and I'll bet they vanish
soon
too.

The drive icons don't do anything.  Instead of opening up the drive, you
get a menu asking what you want to open it will (no mounting, nothing).

A number of the entries in the kmenu, when you actually get them, don't
work.  The "run" command in the menu, as far as I can tell, doesn't work
either.  Enter ANY command you want in the run window and it will not
do anything.

Broken.  Big, bad broken.  Useless broken.  The announcement of the
final
was premature.  I am now kde-less after trying to play with kde 2.0
"final".
I am not willing to go back and reinstall all of the 1.1.2 rpms yet
AGAIN so
it looks like it is gnome from here on out.  If kde 2.0 isn't fixed and
available soon (and if it REQUIRES one to run a beta version of
Mandrake),
then I may just get so used to gnome that I never go back.

On a side note...

One should not HAVE to run a beta distribution in order to run a
non-beta,
stable app like KDE 2.0 is _supposed_ to be.  I am presuming at this
point
that it was widely discovered to be REALLY dicked up and thus it was
pulled
and that a fixed version will soon appear.  How terribly embarrassing
and
what bad press they will end up with making an announcement that the
STABLE
and FINAL KDE 2.0 is now available only to find that it is VERY screwed
up
package.  That is something one expects from M$.

Message to Mandrake:  do not make the STABLE version of KDE 2.0
dependent 
upon BETA level libs and an otherwise BETA system.  Bad, bad, bad.  

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Re: [expert] ssh problems

2000-10-24 Thread Stephen Carville

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Praedor Tempus wrote:

> I have sshd running on my home system (mandrake 7.1)
> and can connect to it from work.  I am connected
> as I write this.
> 
> I am having a problem.  I connected from work and
> wanted to ftp from my home box to site to download
> files to my home box.  I can get into my home
> system but I cannot get out.  If I run "ping "
> I get nothing.  If I try to ftp to some site, 
> nothing happens.  Looking at my /var/log/messages
> I see (altered to protect the innocent):
> 
> Oct 24 10:09:26 localhost sshd[2144]: Could not reverse map address
> 155.*.*.*. 

This means that sshd was unable to get a reverse lookup on an address that
was connecting via ssh.  Without knowing the address thisis a littel ard
to diagnose but it has nothing to do with being unable to ping.

> This is from my ping attempt.  Is this inability to get
> out from my home box via ANY method an sshd configuration
> problem or is it an ISP problem?  I cannot even ping
> the address from which I am connected to my home box...I
> get a similar message as above in the log about not being
> able to reverse map my address.

ssh will not prevent you from getting out.

Did you recently install pmfirewall?

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Re: [expert] Sniffer for Linux

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

I rather like snort.  Very nice, and easier to deal with than
sniffit.  

Luis Chardon wrote:
> 
> Sniffit
> 
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Cecil Watson wrote:
> 
> > Ethereal.
> > http://freshmeat.net/projects/ethereal/?highlight=ethereal
> >
> > _ Bizquick wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking for a good sniffer for my network.  Any good recomendations?
> > >



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Re: [expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

Thanks.  It still also resides in SOME (very few) kde mirrors.  

Here's the big question...did you actually install it and get it
working?

After downloading and installing, all was wrong with the world.  First,
installing it, even with menu-3.0.5-43mdk installed, it segfaults during
the rpm install on /usr/bin/upgrade-menus.  Both qt2 and kde rpms
segfault
it.  Once it IS all installed, the system is broken.  SOME things work,
most
do not. 

Looking deeper into it, even though I got NO dependency missing
messages,
it appears that you HAVE to "upgrade" just about every rpm on your
system
to 7.2beta or Cooker level - all because you need to upgrade menu,
apparently,
even beyond menu-2.1.5-43mdk, because of the segfaults on
upgrade-menus.  To
upgrade menu, to 4.0, which is all that is left, you must upgrade glibc
to
glibc-2.1.95 or 2.1.96.  Doing THIS will break all the other rpms on
your
system, so you must upgrade them as well.

It APPEARS that the "stable" kde 2.0 cannot be used except on an
unstable,
beta-only distro like 7.2beta or Cooker.  There is a README I read on
one
mirror yesterday that indicated you could run kde 2.0 on other mandrake 
versions, but you had to upgrade a few rpms (pam, menu, a COUPLE
others).
Problem is, it is NOT a few rpms.  As I described above, to "simply"
upgrade
menu alone requires an entire cascade of other upgrades to satisfy
dependencies.

At least with RedHat, though they offer glibc-2.1.95 (and 2.1.96) they
ALSO
have a glibc-compat rpm NOT for OLD glibc, but for the previous glibc
that
was in RedHat 6.2, which is essentially 2.1.3.  No such beast exists for
Mandrake so if you upgrade glibc to upgrade menu to install kde 2.0, you
break everything.  In for a penny, in for a pound.

praedor

philomena wrote:
> 
> here's one...
> 
> http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/2.0/distribution/rpm/Mandrake/
> 
> Praedor Tempus wrote:
> >
> > Real nice.  Yesterday, kde releases, finally, the stable,
> > final kde-2.0.  Yesterday you could download it from
> > mandrake cooker, from rpmfind, from every mirror
> > known to man. 
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[expert] gcc/g++ & kde1-compat problems

2000-10-24 Thread Benjamin Ellis

Hey, i'm using the 7.2 beta of linux mandrake and I have problems compiling, 
well more specically building, applications designed for kde 1.1.2, namely 
kdevelop 1.2.

The configure (./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/kde1-compat) script gives me 
the following error output in config.log (broken lines are indented):

configure:5184: checking for KDE
configure:5365: checking for KDE paths
configure:5443: checking for KDE headers installed
configure:5478: g++ -c -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fno-check-new   
-frtti -I/usr/lib/kde1-compat/include -I/usr/lib/qt/include  
-I/usr/X11R6/include   conftest.C
configure:5506: checking for KDE libraries installed
configure:5509: /bin/sh ./libtool --silent --mode=link g++ -o conftest -O2 
-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fno-check-new -frtti  
-I/usr/lib/kde1-compat/include -I/usr/lib/qt/include 
-I/usr/X11R6/include   -s -L/usr/X11R6/lib   
-L/usr/lib/kde1-compat/lib  conftest.C  -lkdecore -lqt  -lXext   -lX11  
-rpath /usr/lib/kde1-compat/lib -rpath /usr/X11R6/lib 1>&5
/usr/bin/ld: warning: libqt.so.2, needed by /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.1,
may conflict with libqt.so.1
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o: In function `main':
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0xa): undefined reference to
`KApplication::kde_htmldir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x22): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_appsdir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x3d): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_icondir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x58): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_sounddir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x73): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_datadir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x8e): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_localedir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0xa9): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_cgidir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0xc4): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_configdir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0xdf): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_mimedir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0xfa): undefined reference to   
`KApplication::kde_toolbardir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x115): undefined reference to  
`KApplication::kde_wallpaperdir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x130): undefined reference to  
`KApplication::kde_bindir(void)'
/tmp/ccU5qbra.o(.text+0x14b): undefined reference to  
`KApplication::kde_partsdir(void)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status


Has anyone had similar problems?  It has done this both times I've 
installed.  Any advice on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated.

Also, is there a way to perserve desktop icon layout and panel launcher 
settings when updating to kde2.0 final?  I've reinstalled mandrake-desk, 
setup, and initscripts and it still doesn't look the way it did when i first 
installed.  The launcher icons don't point to anything and most of the KDE 
apps are missing from the menu.

Thanks,
Ben Ellis
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Re: [expert] Perl scripts won't work???

2000-10-24 Thread Luis Chardon


I would definetly check wether the perl path is correct. 

Luis

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> > Hey, so I'm having a weird problem maybe someone can help me with.
> > I have a simple perl script named test.cgi that generates html (ie a cgi
> > script) which looks like
> > 
> > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > # hello.pl -- my first perl script!
> > print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> > print <<"EOF";
> > 
> > 
> > Hello, world!
> > 
> > 
> > Hello, world!
> > 
> > 
> > EOF
> > 
> > If I type "perl test.cgi" (minus the quotes) the perl script runs.  If I
> > type "./test.cgi" I got the error "bash: ./test.cgi: No such file or
> > directory"
> > If I remove the #!/usr/bin/perl line from the beginning of the perl script
> > and "./test.cgi" again it runs but gives a lot of file not found errors.
> 
> Have you tried invoking the script with an explicit path like
> /home/person/test.cgi? What happens?
> 
> Type "which perl". It should return /usr/bin/perl. If it doesn't, you need to
> point your perl script to the correct path for perl. 
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Re: [expert] Perl scripts won't work???

2000-10-24 Thread Don

When writting perl script my first line also includes a -w
like so:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w

This very important switch tells Perl to produce extra warning messages about
potentiallydangerous constracts.  You should always develop your programs under
-w

See Learning Perl(O'Reilly)2nd edition page 5.

By the program runs for me with out any problems.

Don  

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, you wrote:
> 
> Hey, so I'm having a weird problem maybe someone can help me with.
> I have a simple perl script named test.cgi that generates html (ie a cgi
> script) which looks like
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> # hello.pl -- my first perl script!
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> print <<"EOF";
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> EOF
> 
> If I type "perl test.cgi" (minus the quotes) the perl script runs.  If I
> type "./test.cgi" I got the error "bash: ./test.cgi: No such file or
> directory"
> If I remove the #!/usr/bin/perl line from the beginning of the perl script
> and "./test.cgi" again it runs but gives a lot of file not found errors.
> I'm guessing that somewhere there is an environment variable I am missing or
> something...  I have perl 5.6 installed and Mandrake 7.1 with the 2.2.16
> kernel.
> Any suggestions???
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

Aravind Sadagopan wrote:
> 
> Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1
> 
> system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome

Heh, heh. 

It turns out that you will have to upgrade almost everything.

To install and use kde 2.0, you need to upgrade rpm and menu.  These
upgrades require glibc to be upgraded to THE latest (and by some
accounts,
broken) version.  THIS breaks almost every app on your system so you
also
have to upgrade them (just download the latest glibc-2.96 or whatever it
is and try to install it WITHOUT using the --nodeps or --force switch,
you will get a LONG list of rpms that will be broken if you install it.
These rpms are the same ones you would have to upgrade).

I am debated breaking my stable 7.1 system just for the sake of using
kde 2.0.  You have to essentially make your system an unstable cooker
or 7.2beta system to make all things right.

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[expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

Real nice.  Yesterday, kde releases, finally, the stable,
final kde-2.0.  Yesterday you could download it from
mandrake cooker, from rpmfind, from every mirror 
known to man.  Today?  

It's totally gone.  Vanished.  NO mirror has it.  It
no longer exists.  Has ANYONE downloaded the set?

Could you upload it to a mirror somewhere so people
can actually get it again?

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Re: [expert] Sniffer for Linux

2000-10-24 Thread Tyler Longren

Ethereal is a very good sniffer.  If you're going to use any sniffer, I'd
use ethereal!

Tyler

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> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:40:27 -0700
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> 
> Ethereal.
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/ethereal/?highlight=ethereal
> 
> _ Bizquick wrote:
> 
> > I am looking for a good sniffer for my network.  Any good
> recomendations?
> >
> > J
> >
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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-24 Thread Kelley Terry

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Charles Hixson wrote:
> 
> One thing to fix.  If the X window installation goofs, then the install process is 
>broken.  There doesn't seem to be any way to switch to a text mode at that point.  
>(Well, ok, this was an install of  somebody else.  But the point is important 
>anyway.)  X window locked up
> solid.  This needs to be guarded against.  There needs to be a reasonable way 
>through this, so that at least a non-graphical install can be completed.
> 
> -- (c) Charles Hixson
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> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [expert] kpackage problems

2000-10-24 Thread Darin

Angus,
I had the same problem with 7.2beta3.  I had to use RPM in an xterm or
from the console for that version.

However, 7.2rc1 doesnt have the problem at all.. Kpackage runs fine.

Darin -
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> Greetings Mandrake users,
> I have recently installed 7.2beta2 and have noticed an alarming tendency
in
> kpackage to segfault and die on me at any given opportunity. Is anyone
else
> experiencing this kind of problem, and what is the way to get around it? I
> have tried other packaging programs and they aren't as easy to manipulate
as
> kpackage (especially gnorpm). Maybe there is a better way. Suggestions?
> Regards,
> Angus Beath
>
>
>






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Re: [expert] kpackage problems

2000-10-24 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, you wrote:

> > Greetings Mandrake users,
>   I have recently installed 7.2beta2 and have noticed an alarming
> tendency in kpackage to segfault and die on me at any given
> opportunity. Is anyone else experiencing this kind of problem, and
> what is the way to get around it? I have tried other packaging
> programs and they aren't as easy to manipulate as kpackage
> (especially gnorpm). Maybe there is a better way. Suggestions?
> Regards,
>   Angus Beath

Upgrading kde 1.94 to 1.99 or better fixes it

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Re: [expert] Sniffer for Linux

2000-10-24 Thread Luis Chardon


Sniffit

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Cecil Watson wrote:

> Ethereal.
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/ethereal/?highlight=ethereal
> 
> _ Bizquick wrote:
> 
> > I am looking for a good sniffer for my network.  Any good recomendations?
> >
> > J
> > _
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Re: [expert] ssh problems

2000-10-24 Thread Jim Holthaus

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> I am having a problem.  I connected from work and
> wanted to ftp from my home box to site to download
> files to my home box.  I can get into my home
> system but I cannot get out.  If I run "ping "
> I get nothing.  If I try to ftp to some site, 
> nothing happens.  Looking at my /var/log/messages
> I see (altered to protect the innocent):
> 
> Oct 24 10:09:26 localhost sshd[2144]: Could not reverse map address
> 155.*.*.*. 
> 
> This is from my ping attempt.  

This is from connecting to your box with ssh -- not from the ping attempt! I
think it indicates that your server at home could not resolve the hostname you
are connecting from.

> Is this inability to get
> out from my home box via ANY method an sshd configuration
> problem or is it an ISP problem?  I cannot even ping
> the address from which I am connected to my home box.

The problem is not an SSH problem, that's for sure. have you tried ping
www.yahoo.com? It should work, depending on your setup.
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Re: [expert] Niiiiice. Kill off kde STABLE 2.0 immediately

2000-10-24 Thread philomena

here's one...

http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/2.0/distribution/rpm/Mandrake/


Praedor Tempus wrote:
> 
> Real nice.  Yesterday, kde releases, finally, the stable,
> final kde-2.0.  Yesterday you could download it from
> mandrake cooker, from rpmfind, from every mirror
> known to man.  Today?
> 
> It's totally gone.  Vanished.  NO mirror has it.  It
> no longer exists.  Has ANYONE downloaded the set?
> 
> Could you upload it to a mirror somewhere so people
> can actually get it again?
> 
> praedor
> 
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Re: [expert] Perl scripts won't work???

2000-10-24 Thread Jim Holthaus

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> Hey, so I'm having a weird problem maybe someone can help me with.
> I have a simple perl script named test.cgi that generates html (ie a cgi
> script) which looks like
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> # hello.pl -- my first perl script!
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> print <<"EOF";
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> Hello, world!
> 
> 
> EOF
> 
> If I type "perl test.cgi" (minus the quotes) the perl script runs.  If I
> type "./test.cgi" I got the error "bash: ./test.cgi: No such file or
> directory"
> If I remove the #!/usr/bin/perl line from the beginning of the perl script
> and "./test.cgi" again it runs but gives a lot of file not found errors.

Have you tried invoking the script with an explicit path like
/home/person/test.cgi? What happens?

Type "which perl". It should return /usr/bin/perl. If it doesn't, you need to
point your perl script to the correct path for perl. 
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Re: [expert] WPO 2000/PhotoPaint on LM 7.1?

2000-10-24 Thread Joachim von Jena

Larry Marshall wrote:

> > I have no problems anymore  under SuSE 6.4 (SMP kernels: 2.2.14 or
> > 2.2.17) with WPO 2000 (german) or PhotoPaint (english) after finding
> > Corel's install script for non-Debian distros.
>
> This is interesting.  I just got a CD with SuSE7.0 from the latest
> Linux Format but I haven't done anything with it yet.

> > ... but with LM7.1 ...
> >
> > I have tried several complete fresh installations of  LM 7.1(SMP
> > kernel), WPO 2000 and Photo Paint (WPO 2000 german, Photo Paint
>
> Don't know that it should matter but I am running WPO in English.  I
> just checked, because I've got WP open right now.  The version I've
> got is 9.0.0.765.  I've had a couple times where it looks as though

german version I am using is 9.0.0.765 as well.

I did the same installation on SuSE 7.0 professional  as on SuSE 6.4 on
simpler hardware: K6II 266, S3 GX2 graphics (noname), 1 IDE HD, 1 IDE
CDROM, 1 SCSI adapter NCR53C810 (onely as reserve, no device connected),
PCI sound 1024 live retail (ct4760 board).

Onely on minor problem with this installation: the KDE menu entries for
Photo Paint 9 were lacking. Have to be transferred "manually" from the 6.4
installation of the other box to the SuSE 7.0 installation. Everything
else seems to be as under SuSE 6.4.

> No SCSI on my work machine but otherwise I don't see any differences
> that would cause a problem.  On another topic, what SCSI scanner are
> you using?

Agfa Snapscan 600

Question: how should I interpret the relative silence of  this list about
WPO 2000.
Several possibilities come to my mind:

- this discussion about WPO 2000 happened  before I subscribed to this
list some days ago.

- (different from Larry Marshall and me) there is consensus that WPO 2000
is a bad product and nearly no one has bought it.

- there is a much better Office product. Which?

- (different from Larry Marshall) there is general consensus about
mandrake: don't use it for WPO 2000.

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Re: [expert] Sniffer for Linux

2000-10-24 Thread Cecil Watson

Ethereal.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/ethereal/?highlight=ethereal

_ Bizquick wrote:

> I am looking for a good sniffer for my network.  Any good recomendations?
>
> J
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[expert] kpackage problems

2000-10-24 Thread Angus Beath

Greetings Mandrake users,
I have recently installed 7.2beta2 and have noticed an alarming tendency in
kpackage to segfault and die on me at any given opportunity. Is anyone else
experiencing this kind of problem, and what is the way to get around it? I
have tried other packaging programs and they aren't as easy to manipulate as
kpackage (especially gnorpm). Maybe there is a better way. Suggestions?
Regards,
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[expert] Sniffer for Linux

2000-10-24 Thread _ Bizquick

I am looking for a good sniffer for my network.  Any good recomendations?

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[expert] Any menu version that doesn't segfault?

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, what's up with this?  I am running Mandrake 7.1
with menu-3.0.5-42mdk installed.  I try to install the
latest qt2 and kde-2.0 rpms (after also updating the
other required rpms).  In almost every case with qt2
and kde 2.0 rpms, I get core dumps and segfaults:

qt2
##
var/tmp/rpm-tmp.59425: line 2: 14222 Segmentation fault  (core
dumped) /usr/bin/update-menus
qt2-devel  
##
var/tmp/rpm-tmp.93066: line 1: 14224 Segmentation fault  (core
dumped) /usr/bin/update-menus   

Is there such a thing as a /usr/bin/update-menus or
/usr/bin/install-menus that doesn't segfault with these
rpms?  

It is not acceptable to "upgrade" to menu-4.0 since this 
requires that you also upgrade glibc to the LATEST version
in cooker, which requires that you "upgrade" just about 
EVERY rpm on your system.  

If it is NOT possible to run STABLE kde-2.0 on a Mandrake
system below cooker, where does one find the src rpms (kde 2.0)
so they can build it properly to work with stable Mandrake 
versions?

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Re: [expert] HPLX 200 sync in linux?

2000-10-24 Thread Charles Curley

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 10:44:50AM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote:
> I own (and cannot live without) a palmtop computer called an HPLX 200.  Unlike
> the wince stuff out there, this runs on dos and can therefore run all sorts of
> dos apps (even wordperfect and the like).  With 32 MB ram it has been essential
> to me.
> 
> To back it up to my pc I use a DOS utility called cpack which backs it through
> my com 1 port.  (There also is a windows version which I do not use).  Now
> that I am moving into the linux world (Mandrake 7.1) does anyone else know of a
> way to backup this palmtop to a linux box through the serial port, either
> 
> a) by running cpack under linux?
> b) in some other file transfer way?

Sounds like a job for dosemu.



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[expert] How force KDE Konsole to 8bit mode?

2000-10-24 Thread Nikolay V. Kursov

Mandrake 7.1.
KDE Konsole is working in 7bit mode. How can I configure Konsole to 8bit mode?





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[expert] Configuring a Hotmail account

2000-10-24 Thread Leopold Palomo


Hi people,

A lot of people has an account in Hotmail. This account can be accessed
via web, or with Outlook, you can download the messages (this is that a
friend say).
The question is with Outlook, this is configured that in the pop server
option, a address with a asp code. Well, however, how you can do it
with, netscape, or kmail?

Could anyone explain if it it's possible to configure with linux and
how?

Best regards,

Leo


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Re: [expert] Memory Size

2000-10-24 Thread Larry Tobos


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Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 10:39 AM
Subject: [expert] Memory Size


> A lot of earlier linux books indicate that the kernel does not
> properly understand memory greater than 64 megs unless you add a
> memory size statement to lilo or at a boot prompt.

This is not true anymore for 2.2 kernels, and since ..

> I am running
> Mandrake 7 on one machine with 320 megs of memory.
> something else (such as a bug in the memory info program) ?

it is probably something else 

> --
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>
> Eric Mings Ph.D.
>
>

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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-24 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

> Perhaps a two part installer.  Part one is totally automated, and sets up
> everything that it can be really sure about.  Then the second phase which should
> have, say 4 level 1 choices, each of which have an update variant:
>
> a) Easy Install :  assume that the user doesn't have any idea about what's going
> one.  Obey the rule "First, do no harm".  Automated install that asks as few
> questions as possible.
>
> b) Power User :  This title is chosen to make the user feel good.  It actually
> refers to the skill level of someone who writes Excel macros.  A bit
> adventurous.  Give them lots of choices that are harmless.  Be sure that their
> network connections are safe.
>
> c) Customized:  This guy is expected to be able to handle fdisk, set up
> partitions, choose what should be formatted, etc.  This is the one that has
> choices on network access that read (1)wide open, (2)normal, (3)cautious,
> (4)paranoid.  Applications are in groups, but the user can open up the group to
> select or deselect any package that is chosen.  E.g., if the user select
> Editors, the opened list will show ed, edlin, vim, joe, ... all selected.  The
> user is allowed to choose to unselect particular ones.
>
> d) Expert:  This isn't really a standard installer.  It starts with three
> choices:
> 1) recovery:  Assumes that the software has already been installed, and that it
> needs fixing.  This has a large pallet of tools, as it doesn't assume that the
> versions already installed on the disk are reliable.  (You may think you've been
> rooted.)
> 2) installer:  This one lists all of the packages, and lets one install either
> the package, or selected files from the package.  (Presumably the original
> install was done with one of the other levels. But you CAN select packages to
> install from here.  It would just be very inconvenient to select many of them.)
> 3) scripted:  This one starts with three options.
> a)  "Write a basic installer script to the floppy" (Probably not necessary, but
> useful.)  The basic installer script should be a disk that is bootable, given
> that the CD is inserted.  It should be sufficient to do the customized install,
> and can be machine specific if it must, but I'd rather it wasn't.
> b) Edit the floppy script.
> c) Run the script from the floppy.
> What I really have in mind for this option is that SysAdmins would be able to
> set it up to do a custom install, but with all of the questions answered by the
> script.  That way when a new machine came in, they could just take the CD and
> the floppy, and boot the machine with the CD in place, and the floppy in the
> drive.  Possibly the computer would need to be set to boot from the CD, even
> when the floppy was present.  Then they could depend on autoprobing to handle
> most hardware changes, but the script should be in, say, Python.  That way
> complex choices could be made.  The script would, for instance, ask the
> installer how big the disk was, and once it had the answer it would calculate
> how much space for each partition, what partition type, etc.
> -- (c) Charles Hixson
>

Excellent Ideas.  To carry it (run script from floppy) farther...  the first part of
the install would ensure an internet connection, the second part would call into
play someone's (sorry forgot who) idea of a web based script that would allow a user
to select from packages to load and either write a script to floppy/hard disk to
install the remainder of the available packages from the CD's (assuming that local
access is faster than d/ling from inet.)


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[expert] ssh problems

2000-10-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have sshd running on my home system (mandrake 7.1)
and can connect to it from work.  I am connected
as I write this.

I am having a problem.  I connected from work and
wanted to ftp from my home box to site to download
files to my home box.  I can get into my home
system but I cannot get out.  If I run "ping "
I get nothing.  If I try to ftp to some site, 
nothing happens.  Looking at my /var/log/messages
I see (altered to protect the innocent):

Oct 24 10:09:26 localhost sshd[2144]: Could not reverse map address
155.*.*.*. 

This is from my ping attempt.  Is this inability to get
out from my home box via ANY method an sshd configuration
problem or is it an ISP problem?  I cannot even ping
the address from which I am connected to my home box...I
get a similar message as above in the log about not being
able to reverse map my address.

Anyone?  I was trying to use lynx and ncftp to connect
to some site and download the source to kde-2.0 to my
home system and get it compiling.  I can't get out 
at all.  

praedor

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Re: [expert] Help please

2000-10-24 Thread mrweb

Hi,

Sounds like a possible `lock file', but I am not certain of that, you
can check it in a terminal window by going into your `.netscape'
directory where
the `user' in question resides.

hth

mrweb


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>I know this is a wrong place to ask this question..but the problem is
> I dont use Redhat but my friend  had this problem..If anyone has an idea
> ..please help
> 
> >I have had problems with my mail from netscape 4.75 under >RedHat 7.0.
> >Basically, if I log in as a normal user, start netscape, and >go to the
> 
> >address book, netscape crashes. However, as root it doesn't. I >can
> even
> >log in as a normal user, su from there and start netscape, and >it
> works
> >nicely.
> 
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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-24 Thread Charles Hixson

One thing to fix.  If the X window installation goofs, then the install process is 
broken.  There doesn't seem to be any way to switch to a text mode at that point.  
(Well, ok, this was an install of  somebody else.  But the point is important anyway.) 
 X window locked up
solid.  This needs to be guarded against.  There needs to be a reasonable way through 
this, so that at least a non-graphical install can be completed.

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Re: [expert] Running X apps locally from remote host

2000-10-24 Thread Eric

Thanx, xhost was the trick.  Read all through the man pages and Xfree86
, yet couldn't see a lot in there.  Finally stumbled across it and life
was good.  No search on the Xfree86 site, makes it hard to determine
where stuff like that get's put.  At any rate , thanx, I'm up and
running (BTW, My co-worker was convinced that Linux and VNC were the
problem after I got the X server working but could not run the CICS
debugger, but that proved incorrect!)  

Eric wrote:
> 
> OK, I have read, re-read and read again the instructions on xauth ,
> etc..  I can't get anywhere.  Basically I'm trying to run an X
> application from an AIX machine on my local Mdk machine. I keep getting
> a connect refused, invalid cookie, etc...
> 
> Basically, what can I do to allow __ANYone__ to just connect to my X
> server on my local machine.  It's a throw away machine in a wide open
> environment and I just want it to accept any connection!
> 
> Can anybody point me in the right direction??
> 
> TIA
> 
> Eric Aksomitis
> 
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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-24 Thread Charles Hixson

"Austin L. Denyer" wrote:

> > This is my opinion.
> >
> > I sit on both edges  of the OS fence (I use M$ aat work and Linux at
> home.)
> > Unfortunately, I can not see giving most of the users I work with any
> linux
> > packages at all.  They would never get past the installations.  Does this
> > mean they are ignorant.  Yep!  But, you would not want me doing brain
> > surgery either.
> >
> > I think LM should be working towards an "ignorant user" install option as
> > well (I like the ideas in the previous message!).  If you really want to
> > convince the companies of "proprietary products" that the platform is one
> > they need to pay attention to, then we have to convince the general public
> > of the value of Linux as well.  That is never going to happen when they
> can
> > not do the first 5% (installation) in relative ease and lack of thought.
> M$
> > has the right idea when it comes to that 95% of the market that is
> computer
> > tech illiterate.  They take away the choices.  It keeps them (the user)
> from
> > being overwhelmed.
> >
> > To me, an "ignorant user" pacakge would come with a desktop or two to
> choose
> > from at install time, but only one gets installed.  Yeah - this flies in
> the
> > face of what most of us want on our systems.  But, before we are going to
> > get the "masses" to use Linux/Un*x of any type, the confusion of
> > installation (read too many choices) has to vanish.  The installation
> > package would also contain the mainstream "products" that are being used
> and
> > agressively developed in the Linux/Un*x world.  But, only one or two
> choices
> > from each type, and GUI based.  Embrace what has worked for M$ (ease of
> use
> > up front, limited choices to the end user, ...) and extend it beyond their
> > ability (Read stability, powere, etc in addition).  I hate being forced to
> > make money on M$ products, and would love to see M$ replaced with a sane
> > platform.  Believe it or not, it starts at the installation for most of my
> > users.
> >
> > Outside of the use of FUD, these are the time proven tactics that M$ has
> > used to squash competition and large scale innovation, and win support of
> > the masses.
> > What does everyone else think?
>
> I agree.  We need a 'newbie' install option that makes all the technical
> decisions for you, as well as the other install options for those with more
> knowledge.
>
> Also, we could use a more 'user-friendly' way for the 'newbie' to install
> additional packages at a later date.  An option to automagically
> install/download dependencies would be useful too - apologies if this is
> already in the newer releases; I am still on 7.0 until the weekend.
>
> Some Windoze applications have a 'basic' and 'expert' interface.  The basic
> interface hides the complicated stuff from the user, but the expert
> interface still allows all functionality for the more experienced user.
>
> Another member of the group recommended taking out the repeated packages
> with similar functionality - I don't think that would work.  There would be
> far too many holy wars re-started as to what is taken out.  A better
> approach would be to more clearly indicate the pros and cons of the
> applications included, so that the user is better placed to make an informed
> decision as to what he wants.
>
> Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 7% sales tax)
>
> Regards,
> Ozz.
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Perhaps a two part installer.  Part one is totally automated, and sets up
everything that it can be really sure about.  Then the second phase which should
have, say 4 level 1 choices, each of which have an update variant:

a) Easy Install :  assume that the user doesn't have any idea about what's going
one.  Obey the rule "First, do no harm".  Automated install that asks as few
questions as possible.

b) Power User :  This title is chosen to make the user feel good.  It actually
refers to the skill level of someone who writes Excel macros.  A bit
adventurous.  Give them lots of choices that are harmless.  Be sure that their
network connections are safe.

c) Customized:  This guy is expected to be able to handle fdisk, set up
partitions, choose what should be formatted, etc.  This is the one that has
choices on network access that read (1)wide open, (2)normal, (3)cautious,
(4)paranoid.  Applications are in groups, but the user can open up the group to
select or deselect any package that is chosen.  E.g., if the user select
Editors, the opened list will show ed, edlin, vim, joe, ... all selected.  The
user is allowed to choose to unselect particular ones.

d) Expert:  This isn't really a standard installer.  It starts with three
choices:
1) recovery:  Assumes that the software has already been installed, and that it
needs fixing.  This has a large pallet of tools, as it doesn't assume that the
versions already installed on th

Re: [expert] Running X apps locally from remote host

2000-10-24 Thread jean-philippe

Eric wrote:

> OK, I have read, re-read and read again the instructions on xauth ,
> etc..  I can't get anywhere.  Basically I'm trying to run an X
> application from an AIX machine on my local Mdk machine. I keep getting
> a connect refused, invalid cookie, etc...
>
> Basically, what can I do to allow __ANYone__ to just connect to my X
> server on my local machine.  It's a throw away machine in a wide open
> environment and I just want it to accept any connection!
>
> Can anybody point me in the right direction??

I think that all you have to do is a "xhost +" from the xserver.
Once you did this, what I usually do is starting an xterm on the remote
machine :
   xterm -display ip.xserver.net:0
And you will be able to run any apps on the remote machine from the xterm.


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[expert] HPLX 200 sync in linux?

2000-10-24 Thread Jeff Malka

I own (and cannot live without) a palmtop computer called an HPLX 200.  Unlike
the wince stuff out there, this runs on dos and can therefore run all sorts of
dos apps (even wordperfect and the like).  With 32 MB ram it has been essential
to me.

To back it up to my pc I use a DOS utility called cpack which backs it through
my com 1 port.  (There also is a windows version which I do not use).  Now
that I am moving into the linux world (Mandrake 7.1) does anyone else know of a
way to backup this palmtop to a linux box through the serial port, either

a) by running cpack under linux?
b) in some other file transfer way?

Thank you.

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Re: [expert] making a usable floppy disk

2000-10-24 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> 
> So sprach Ron Johnson, Jr. am Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:52:00PM -0500:
> > I didn't think of kde.  For some silly reason, I was thinking
> > it was a kernel tool!  
> 
> Uh?  But it's a KDE tool, is it not?  :]

That's a logical assumption, but apparently not:

$ kmkdosfs
START
Usage: kmkdosfs [-c | -l bad-block-file] [-m boot-msg-file]
[-n volume-name] [-i volume-id] [-s sectors-per-cluster] [-v]
[-f number-of-FATs] [-F fat-size] [-r root-dir-entries]
/dev/name [blocks]

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Re: [expert] 3com NIC doesn't work in Mandrake7.1

2000-10-24 Thread Viêt

Tyler Longren wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> I've got a 3Com Etherlink XL 10/100 PCI TX Nic (3C905B-TX).
> This card works fine in WinME.
> The kernel module I'm using is 3c59x.

good
That card is widely used without trouble so far
except for very recent revisions of the PCB that the driver wasn't
aware of at the last update.

> I used Webmin for my first time, and it said that the nic wasn't even
> started.  When I enable it, I get the following error:
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource Temporarily Unavailable.

is the module loaded ? (run "lsmod | grep 3c59x")
   no : load it by hand (run "modprobe 3c59x")

what does the kernel says then ? (run "dmesg")
   "device is busy" : the driver is not seeing your card
   "3c59x.c xx Donald Becker and "etc : it's working fine

is it correctly configured ? (run "ifconfig", watch for IP add)
   no : do it by hand (run dhclient or ifconfig eth0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)


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RE: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-24 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

There are a bunch: htdig, pam, qt-2.2.1, openssl, menu, mandrake_desk, bzip2,
rpm-3.0.5 (at least for rc2, you may need 4.0 since mandrake built their rpms
againist 7.2 beta), I know there are more, but there is a good start. I ended
up rpm -e all kde 1.1.2 files and installing the tar files for rc2. I havent
had a chance to install the rpm's (or try) from mandrake for kde2 final. I
figure I will have to install the tar files again.

I Don't know if this site is still a valid one for installation since kde2
has gone final but you could check: http://virtualartisans.com/linux/mandrake/


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Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1

system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome

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Re: [expert] Linuxconf Problem

2000-10-24 Thread Buchan Milne

SSL'ing webmin on LM (7.1 at least) does not require you to compile
openssl from source. There was a guide on it recently at
mandrakeuser.org

Buchan

Cecil Watson wrote:
> 
> Where:  webmin.com/webmin
> What:   Like Linuxconf, Webmin allows you to configure Linux and various
> software that you may have installed.  Webmin works via any browser w/ or w/o
> SSL. http://plainmail.com/linux/secure.html
> 
> Jeff Malka wrote:
> 
> > > > Anyway, the Mandrake gurus might want to check to see if Linuxconf still
> > > > has this bug, and if so report it to the authors of Linuxconf. I've
> > never
> > > > liked Linuxconf, and will probably kill it off and put webmin on or
> > > > continue to administer my system the old fashioned way, with emacs and
> >
> > Where and what is webmin?
> >
> > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [expert] Help please

2000-10-24 Thread Mark Weaver

Aravind,

Um...what I first responded to this post I wasn't having any trouble with
RH 7.0, however, as the day wore on everything on the system went down the
toilet. I use Mandrake 7.1 on my home machine, but decided to take a look
at RedHat 7.0 on my workstation at work. At any rate what you're
experiencing, or rather what your friend is experiencing with Netscape is
an old problem. A bus error that as far as I've seen has been finally
addressed and fixed. I haven't seen a release for RedHat, but I'm fairly
certain that you can install the Mandrake RPM and install it on your
RedHat system. The version you will want to try is
Netscape-communicator-4.75-8mdk.i586.rpm and
Netscape-common-4.75-8mdk.i586.rpm. You can find these on the Mandrake
Cooker ftp site. I'm not sure if they're up on rpmfind.net or not. you may
want to take a look there to see. they may be. At any rate you're looking
for 4.75-8.

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 4:20pm ,Aravind Sadagopan spake passionately in a message:

> Hi Guys,
>I know this is a wrong place to ask this question..but the problem is
> I dont use Redhat but my friend  had this problem..If anyone has an idea
> ..please help
> 
> >I have had problems with my mail from netscape 4.75 under >RedHat 7.0.
> >Basically, if I log in as a normal user, start netscape, and >go to the
> 
> >address book, netscape crashes. However, as root it doesn't. I >can
> even
> >log in as a normal user, su from there and start netscape, and >it
> works
> >nicely.
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Re: [expert] raid / reiserfs

2000-10-24 Thread Buchan Milne

I am not sure if you're going to have any luck with hardware raid,
espescially with cards like this. I hope you have researched this well
(read the relevant HOWTOs, kernel docs etc) and are sure that your
kernel supports it.

If you do have success setting up the raid, maybe you would want to
write a short bit up on it.

Once the raid is set up (be it hardware or software) the filesystem
shouldn't know a thing about it. It's probably best not to put your root
on the raid (without reading the ROOT-RAID-HOWTO)

Buchan

P.S. From what I can remember, the Promise ATA->RAID hack is the
addition of the right resistor in the right place (which will cost you
about 5c).

Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I would have searched the archives on this but I can't seem to get into the
> Mandrake website?
> 
> Anyway, I'm planning on putting a Promise IDE RAID card (Fast trak udma 66)
> in one of my computers this weekend and I was wondering if anyone could tell
> me if reiserfs will work on a hardware raid setup as this?
> 
> Also, if anyone is interested, this guy will do the necessary hack to a
> standard Promise udma 66 controller card to make it a fast trak 66 raid card
> (saving at least $50).  If anyone knows about this/is interested, here's the
> address:
> 
> http://promiseraid.tripod.com/
> 
> Mike
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Re: [expert] Re: Digest for list expert

2000-10-24 Thread Buchan Milne

If you just killed X and kept running like that, init will try and
restart (x|k|g)dm periodically. You probably need to become root, then
type "init 3" to change to a runlevel where init won't try and restart
X. Then fix X (using  XFDrake, Xconfigurator, XF86Config - in this order
preferably). If you can then start X again, try changin run-levels back
to 5, "init 5" as root, and if it works, all is well.

Buchan

paddock wrote:
> 
> Hi, good folks!
> 
> I apologize in advance for cluttering up the "Expert" list with stuff from a Newbie, 
>but this is one I haven't a clue how to trace and solve.
> 
> A couple of days ago, I was faced with what appeared to be a locked-up "X" ("kdm" 
>from all evidence -- it's whatever Mandrake 7.1 installed for me), so I did the "X" 
>3-finger salute of  and after 15 seconds (or so), I got to log 
>back in.  Ever since then (through several shutdowns, also, btw!), every 5 minutes, I 
>get a string of the following in the syslog (I follow the log with "tail" to watch my 
>firewall in action!):
> 
> Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:02 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:03 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:04 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:06 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:07 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:08 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:09 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:11 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:13 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:14 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: extra arguments on command line:
> Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm:  "lang.sh-end"
> Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm:
> Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost kdm: Can't lock pid file /var/run/xdm.pid, another xdm is 
>running (pid 735)
> Oct 23 13:37:16 localhost init: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> 
> At this moment, doing
> 
>   ps -ef | grep [k]dm
> 
> returns the following (spacing may not be accurate):
> 
>   root  7351   0 12:04 ?00:00:00 kdm lang-sh-end
>   root 1798  735   0 12:10 ?00:00:00 [kdm]
> 
> I've tried killing various combinations of the pids mentioned (in this example, 
>"735" and "1798");  this just gives me the opportunity to log in again and restart 
>all my background stuff up again.
> 
> I've tried putting a "SIGSTOP" on the what I deduce is the "child" (because of the 
>parent pid
> not being "1"), but it just resumes itself (or something else resumes it) and 5 
>minutes later I get another rash of the "Can't lock pid file" activity.
> 
> Whew.  Is there someone reading this who 1) knows what's going on;  and 2) can tell 
>me how to make it stop happening?  I know I can stop it by reinstalling the OS, but 
>this isn't the Redmond OS, one isn't supposed to have to reinstall for silliness like 
>this!
> 
> Apologies again, and TIA!
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Re: [expert] CGI problem after PHP4 install

2000-10-24 Thread Deven Phillips, CISSP

Andy,

Apache.org has the answers that you need. There is a configuration option to 
define cgi-bin as a sub under the root of the web server. by defining:

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ ///cgi-bin/

and restarting Apache, you will be able to then use /cgi-bin/ 
to execute CGIs

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Re: [expert] Running X apps locally from remote host

2000-10-24 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Eric am Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:43:45PM -0600:
> Can anybody point me in the right direction??

Did you already try to call "xhost +" on the local machine before starting
the remote X app?

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[expert] LDAP Authentication for an Install option?

2000-10-24 Thread Deven Phillips, CISSP

Is anyone else on the list interested in seeing an LDAP authentication option for the 
Mandrake install? For those of you from Mandrake watching the list, what are our 
chances of seeing this in 7.3? 8.0?

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Re: [expert] CGI problem after PHP4 install

2000-10-24 Thread Jean-Michel Dault

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Andy Judge wrote:

> I installed PHP4 on my computer from the source files.  First I removed
> PHP3, then installed PHP4.  Now the computer can't find the cgi-bin to run
> perl scripts.  I am running 7.0 and PHP4 works fine. I remember that I did

When you try to run a cgi, what error message do you have? And what does
your http error_log tell you?


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[expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-24 Thread Aravind Sadagopan

Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1

system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome

Cheers

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RE: [expert] Running X apps locally from remote host

2000-10-24 Thread Duncan Rose


I think "xhost +" is the command you're looking for.

-Original Message-
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--->8--- snip --->8---

Basically, what can I do to allow __ANYone__ to just connect to my X
server on my local machine.  It's a throw away machine in a wide open
environment and I just want it to accept any connection!

Can anybody point me in the right direction??

TIA

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Re: [expert] logrotate

2000-10-24 Thread turgut kalfaoglu

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:24:52 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:
>Yeah, use an ftp client (ncftp, etc.) and connect to a mirror,
>download the updates, then run "rpm -Fvh *.rpm" and upgrade the
>packages.  Very easy.


Oh, thanks. I tried ftp.mandrake.com, found NOTHING, not even
a text file of explanations, so I was baffled. I'll try one of its
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Re: [expert] Running X apps locally from remote host

2000-10-24 Thread Asheesh Laroia

Definitions:

$server = External IP of your computer
$AIX = External IP of AIX machine

If you want, you can use bash's export command to make the following more
literal.

Lo and behold.  Logged onto $server, type:

xhost +$AIX

That lets your machine accept X connections from $AIX.

Log into $AIX and set the DISPLAY variable, then run your GUI program.  
For example,

export DISPLAY=$server:0
gedit

Have a blast.  Add a "&" to the end of the GUI program's name and see what
happens.

Good luck.

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[expert] Removables stopped automounting with kde

2000-10-24 Thread Eric Mings

For some strange reason the floppy and cd-rom icons on my kde desktop 
stopped working correctly. They no longer automatically mount the 
device when they are clicked. The devices (floppy and cd-rom) can be 
manually mounted via the mount command and then viewed correctly via 
the kde icons for them. Anyone know what would cause this failure and 
how might I fix it? Thanks.
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Re: [expert] Running X apps locally from remote host

2000-10-24 Thread Leopold Palomo

Hi,

I cannot help you directly, but I can recomend you a good documentation
(maybe you didn't know it) :


Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO
  Vincent Zweije, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  11 July 2000

* updated (note: last official version was missing)
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Remote-X-Apps.html

I think that all of you need is written there.

Leo


Eric wrote:

> OK, I have read, re-read and read again the instructions on xauth ,
> etc..  I can't get anywhere.  Basically I'm trying to run an X
> application from an AIX machine on my local Mdk machine. I keep getting
> a connect refused, invalid cookie, etc...
>
> Basically, what can I do to allow __ANYone__ to just connect to my X
> server on my local machine.  It's a throw away machine in a wide open
> environment and I just want it to accept any connection!
>
> Can anybody point me in the right direction??
>
> TIA
>
> Eric Aksomitis
>
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[expert] test (please ignore)

2000-10-24 Thread God

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Re: [expert] installing ssh

2000-10-24 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Daniel Woods am Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:33:09PM -0600:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > > Where can I find `rpmlib > 3.03_1?
> > 
> > FAQ: In rpm >= 3.0.4
> 
> >From the Mandrake 7.1 CD, I have 
> rpm-3.0.4-0.12mdk
> rpm-build-3.0.4-0.12mdk
> rpm-devel-3.0.4-0.12mdk
> rpm-python-3.0.4-0.12mdk

Sorry, than it was rpm 3.0.5.  Should be in the 7.2 tree.  For rpm 4.0
you'll need, like you already wrote, glibc >= 2.1.92.

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[expert] minimal install

2000-10-24 Thread Matthew Persico

Rather than bloat my disk, I'd rather install the absolute minimum set
of packages and then add on as I need. To me, the minimum is:

kernal
compiler
X (with server)

Is there any way to do this, short of scrolling through all packages and
de-selecting most of them?

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Re: [expert] installing ssh

2000-10-24 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Oct 23, 2000 at 02:33:09PM -0600, Daniel Woods wrote:

> > > Where can I find `rpmlib > 3.03_1?
> > 
> > FAQ: In rpm >= 3.0.4
> 
> >From the Mandrake 7.1 CD, I have 
> rpm-3.0.4-0.12mdk
> rpm-build-3.0.4-0.12mdk
> rpm-devel-3.0.4-0.12mdk
> rpm-python-3.0.4-0.12mdk
> 
> However I still can't install Openssh2.2.0p1 RPMS.
> # rpmu openssh*7mdk*rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
[...]

> Why does it want rpmlib <= 3.0.3-1 ?

Because of some differences in the libs.  It wants 3.0.5 which is what
it was built with.

> I installed the cooker version of openssl without any problems.
> 
> Trying the cooker versions of rpm also failed...
> rpm-4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
> rpm-build-4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
> rpm-devel-4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
> rpm-python-4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
> # rpm -Uvh rpm*
> error: failed dependencies:
> glibc >= 2.1.92 is needed by rpm-4.0-3mdk
> rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by rpm-4.0-3mdk

Grab rpm from 7.2 instead of cooker.  That will work.

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Re: [expert] making a usable floppy disk

2000-10-24 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Ron Johnson, Jr. am Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:52:00PM -0500:
> I didn't think of kde.  For some silly reason, I was thinking
> it was a kernel tool!  

Uh?  But it's a KDE tool, is it not?  :]

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[expert] CGI problem after PHP4 install

2000-10-24 Thread Andy Judge

I installed PHP4 on my computer from the source files.  First I removed
PHP3, then installed PHP4.  Now the computer can't find the cgi-bin to run
perl scripts.  I am running 7.0 and PHP4 works fine. I remember that I did
get a warning about cgi or perl at the end of the configure.  I just took a
phpinfo() from php3 and found the "configure commands" to install PHP4.
Does anyone know what this could be with the limited amount I have here?
Should I try to reinstall the PHP3 rpms or mod_perl or something like that?
I can't seen to find anything that would help me in php.ini or httpd.conf.
Any help would be sincerely appreciated.

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