Re: [expert] Memory test

2000-10-27 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 27 October 2000 05:09 pm, you wrote:

> > I just increased my memory from 64 MB to 192 MB.  Mandrake
> recognized it perfectly and everything is great so far.  However I
> would like to test it by a really memory intensive application
> before the 30 day warranty runs out.  Any suggestions?

   Well, if ya think the cpu is up to it, and if you've got a decent 
motherboard, crank the bus up about 33+%, increase the IO voltage to 
3.5+ and boot memtest86 ;>
http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86/
   Ram is what it'll do.  I've had a stick of pc100 (8ns) runnin at 
135mhz cas2 on 3.55 volts for 2 1/2 years, -o- errors.  It will do 
155mhz at cas3, still -o- errors. I don't have a higher fsb to test 
it with.
   Seriously, there is no way to test ram with software other than 
to push it as far/fast as it'll go, and see how long it lasts.  Even 
then you're testing it as part of the cpu/cache/ram system, altho 
memtest86 allows you to toggle on/off the L2 cache.  The quality and 
stability of the motherboard is just as important as the ram itself.
Excellent ram is no better than junk ram if the motherboard's not 
high quality (something you rarely find in anything but a quality 
home or shop built system, specially if it overclocked, and never in 
a ready made).
The equipment necessary to test ram is 10's of thousands of 
$$'s, and not readily available to most folks ;)
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Re: [expert] Re: Wordperfect 2000 and 7.1

2000-10-27 Thread Philip R. Moyer


Gerald Williams wrote:
>While you guys are on this subject, what's the magic combo to get wpo2000 
>to work with/recognize the cups /etc/printcap file. my mode is 660. 
>Actually, I'm not too sure about my printcap file--it has only one thing; 
>ap3250 no hash marks, backslashes or anything else.(g)  Any clues welcome.

Try changing the mode to 644 or, depending on the group, 664.  Mine
is 644, owned root.lp, and it works with WPO2000.

Cheers,
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RE: [expert] No mouse scroll after KDE2

2000-10-27 Thread TK Kim

I have 'imwheel' running.  KDE2 install must have done something.
In XFce window manager, the mouse scroll works in Netscape.
On a side note, XFce is whole alot faster than KDE2, very noticebly.




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>Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:19:39 -0400
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>Same on my system, so I still run imwheel
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>
>
>After installing KDE2, mouse scroll stopped working in Nescape, but works
>fine in any KDE apps such as Konquerer, KEdit, and so on.
>Anybody has the same happened?  And, how do I fix this?
>
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RE: [expert] here is the $170 question ^__^

2000-10-27 Thread Makis Marmaridis



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Cours
> Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2000 10:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] here is the $170 question ^__^
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, andy b wrote:
>
> > ok... I bought 127 megs of ram to add to my 64 megs
> > my bios recognises 192 megs... but Linux only recognises 64
> (even if I only put
> > in the 128 meg module)
> > it would be nice to triply my ram... any ideas?
>
> Have you tried using the "mem=" switch in the bootloader? On a 512MB
> system, I had to append "mem=511M" to the "linux" line under
> /boot/menu.lst, winding up with a line that looks like this:
>
> title linux
> kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hd5 mem=511M
>
> Note that the number is one less than the total number of meg in the
> syste. I don't know if that's necessary in general, or just in the
> specific case of the i810-based motherboard I'm using, but if
> I set it to
> 512M I get a kernel panic during boot-up.
>
> - Jeff


This behaviour (having to set the total memory to a meg less than the
actual) is specific to your motherboard chipset as it reserves 1 megabyte of
the system RAM for use by the video display.

I have seen the mem parameter normally working by using the full amount of
physical memory (except of course in the case of i810 chipsets!).

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Re: [expert] Memory test

2000-10-27 Thread Mike Adams

At 03:09 PM 10/27/00, you wrote:
>I just increased my memory from 64 MB to 192 MB.  Mandrake recognized it
>perfectly and everything is great so far.  However I would like to test it 
>by a
>really memory intensive application before the 30 day warranty runs out.  Any
>suggestions?

Try http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86/

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Re: [expert] here is the $170 question ^__^

2000-10-27 Thread Jeff Cours

On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, andy b wrote:

> ok... I bought 127 megs of ram to add to my 64 megs
> my bios recognises 192 megs... but Linux only recognises 64 (even if I only put
> in the 128 meg module)
> it would be nice to triply my ram... any ideas?

Have you tried using the "mem=" switch in the bootloader? On a 512MB
system, I had to append "mem=511M" to the "linux" line under
/boot/menu.lst, winding up with a line that looks like this:

title linux
kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hd5 mem=511M

Note that the number is one less than the total number of meg in the
syste. I don't know if that's necessary in general, or just in the
specific case of the i810-based motherboard I'm using, but if I set it to
512M I get a kernel panic during boot-up.

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Re: [expert] here is the $170 question ^__^

2000-10-27 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

andy b wrote:
> 
> ok... I bought 127 megs of ram to add to my 64 megs
> my bios recognises 192 megs... but Linux only recognises 64 (even if I only put
> in the 128 meg module)
> it would be nice to triply my ram... any ideas?

Maybe my old brain has dredged out details from 1992, but what
happens if you remove the 64MB SDRAM and put the 128MB SDRAM 
in socket 0?

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Re: [expert] Memory test

2000-10-27 Thread Greg Stewart

Memtest86

I've used it to test the memory in my macines...be prepared to wait a good
long time--it's thorough.

http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86/

--Greg.

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> I just increased my memory from 64 MB to 192 MB.  Mandrake recognized it
> perfectly and everything is great so far.  However I would like to test it
by a
> really memory intensive application before the 30 day warranty runs out.
Any
> suggestions?
>
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[expert] Memory test

2000-10-27 Thread Kelley Terry

I just increased my memory from 64 MB to 192 MB.  Mandrake recognized it
perfectly and everything is great so far.  However I would like to test it by a
really memory intensive application before the 30 day warranty runs out.  Any
suggestions?



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Re: [expert] Upgrading CPU...

2000-10-27 Thread TK Kim

Thanks for the reply.


>From: "Ron Johnson, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:22:53 -0500
>
>TK Kim wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > If I upgrade the CPU on my system, do I need to recompile the system?
>
>no. u *can* if u r going from archetecture to archetectue (485 -> 586,
>Intel <-> AMD, K-6x -> Athlon) but u do not *have* to.
>
>(One time where u *may* have to recompile: if u are downgrading
>in archetecture.)
>
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[expert] Arggggh...Packet Problems and Black Hoie Theory

2000-10-27 Thread Logos

Okay... I have @home service. My connection consists of a 50ft CAT5 straight
cable connecting my LinkSys LNE100TX to a cable modem which I share with
another member of the house. Reason it's 50 ft away is that the inline for
@home was too difficult to move and the CAT5 is easier to work with inside the
walls. The reason they aren't networked has nothing to do with my problem. 
My setup ran fine for a good while until the last two weeks I have been having
trouble with http and pop3 addresses. I went through the re-config and
re-install craze and still the same results. I understand Ethernet cable needs
to be <300ft(100m) but I'm at 1/6th the limit here. The win machine that shares
the modem with me has no problems with the pop mail nor the http addy's. It's
as if the connection degrades. So I check ifconfig and see tx errors where I
have seen few before. I use "dhcpcd -h cxxx-a" to config eth0(LS LNE100TX)
by dhcpfine. But my mail has been timing out everytime, my http access is
crippled to the point where sites load and then the speed diminishes as it
loads...it's getting to look a lot like Black Hole Theory(don't ask for an
explanation :)) and the page never finishes...I get "Document contains no data"
errors when I try www.google.com and we all know the front page to google is
about as bulky as one grain of sand to a beach. I have checked the netcable for
continuity with my multitester and got true and equivalent readings for each
set...is it possible that the length of this cable is the problem here? I did
have the machines networked once and ran the cable to this machine via a hub...

once again...cable-->cable modem-->50ft CAT5 cable-->LinkSys-->eth0/tulip

If it works on the winmachine, it's not likely @home's prob...I just can't
determine if it is the cable length or something is amiss in a config
somewhere. I hate to have to move this machine around.



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Re: [expert] Upgrading CPU...

2000-10-27 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

TK Kim wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If I upgrade the CPU on my system, do I need to recompile the system?

no. u *can* if u r going from archetecture to archetectue (485 -> 586,
Intel <-> AMD, K-6x -> Athlon) but u do not *have* to.

(One time where u *may* have to recompile: if u are downgrading
in archetecture.)

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Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC

2000-10-27 Thread rharvey

http://www.openssh.com/portable.html
here is a complete list of mirrors for the open ssh rpm
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From: "rharvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC


> www.utu.net/ohjeet/ssh_for_windows.html  this is the one for the windows
> side let me find the linux one
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles Curley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC
>
>
> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:30:11PM -0500, rharvey wrote:
> > > I found the how to for open ssh and followed the instructions and had
> narry
> > > a problem ( except in windows I had to put the key in the path so the
> > > programs using ssh could find the key but then that is in the
> instructions
> > > too.)
> >
> > Where is the open SSH HOW-TO to be found?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > -- C^2
> >
> > No windows were crashed in the making of this email.
> >
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Re: [expert] Coyote firewall connection

2000-10-27 Thread Matthew Micene

On Friday 27 October 2000 15:09, you wrote:
> I can ping all machines in the network from Mandrake.  Reset the cable
> modem and rebooted the firewall.  Netscape does not find the connection.
> Warning:  the following hosts are unknown:
>home.netscape.com
>home6.netscape.com
>internic.net

Hostname resolution.  You need to specify the DNS server you are using  in 
/etc/resolv.conf.  Try pinging a known IP address outside of your network 
from the Mandrake box (ie run nslookup on the Debian box for www.cnn.com). 
 If that ping goes through, it is most certainly what it sounds like from 
the above, DNS resolution.

The format for the /etc/resolv.conf (in case its different, I haven't 
gotten my hands on a box to put Debian on) is:
nameserver  10.0.0.2
nameserver  10.0.0.3
and on and on until you run out of nameservers you want to check.

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Re: [expert] Coyote firewall connection

2000-10-27 Thread rharvey

I had a simular problem - my eth0 card did not have its driver listed.
I typed in the 3com driver name for the card and every thing came upI
also listed the dns servers from my provider.
and told it my gateway out was my firewall.
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From: "Bill Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 2:09 PM
Subject: [expert] Coyote firewall connection



Have had Coyote linux installed on a 486 for about 3 months.  2 Debian boxes
were connected and running correctly.

Replaced the Debian OS on 1 box with Mandrake 7.1 and lost that connection.
Still connected with the remaining Debian box.

I can ping all machines in the network from Mandrake.  Reset the cable modem
and rebooted the firewall.  Netscape does not find the connection.

Compared Mandrake with Debian configuration and they seem to agree.

Can you tell me what I might be missing or give me some Mandrake settings.
When Netscape attempts the first connection it displays:
Warning:  the following hosts are unknown:
   home.netscape.com
   home6.netscape.com
   internic.net

I don't know Mandrake well enough to know what files are involved.  Debian
differs slightly from other distro's.

Appreciate your help.

Bill Barnes



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Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC

2000-10-27 Thread rharvey

http://www.openssh.com/install.html - open ssh linux page
ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/rpm/  - get the redhat
rmp it works fine with linux mandrake.
setup the rpm
make your key public key if the rpm did not.
copy your public key to your system you want to be able to log in with (form
me it was a windows computer)
hope this helps.
Robert

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC


> www.utu.net/ohjeet/ssh_for_windows.html  this is the one for the windows
> side let me find the linux one
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles Curley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC
>
>
> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:30:11PM -0500, rharvey wrote:
> > > I found the how to for open ssh and followed the instructions and had
> narry
> > > a problem ( except in windows I had to put the key in the path so the
> > > programs using ssh could find the key but then that is in the
> instructions
> > > too.)
> >
> > Where is the open SSH HOW-TO to be found?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > -- C^2
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[expert] Coyote firewall connection

2000-10-27 Thread Bill Barnes


Have had Coyote linux installed on a 486 for about 3 months.  2 Debian boxes
were connected and running correctly.

Replaced the Debian OS on 1 box with Mandrake 7.1 and lost that connection. 
Still connected with the remaining Debian box.

I can ping all machines in the network from Mandrake.  Reset the cable modem
and rebooted the firewall.  Netscape does not find the connection.

Compared Mandrake with Debian configuration and they seem to agree.

Can you tell me what I might be missing or give me some Mandrake settings.
When Netscape attempts the first connection it displays:
Warning:  the following hosts are unknown:
   home.netscape.com
   home6.netscape.com
   internic.net

I don't know Mandrake well enough to know what files are involved.  Debian
differs slightly from other distro's.

Appreciate your help.

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[expert] IP Port to serial port?

2000-10-27 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]

All linux Experts!

I am looking for some simple code that will allow me to telnet into my machine at a 
pre-defined port number, and connect directly to one of the machine's serial ports, so 
that data I send goes out the serial port, and vice versa.  Flow control not necessary.

This seems like a very simple thing - how do I do it?

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Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC

2000-10-27 Thread rharvey

www.utu.net/ohjeet/ssh_for_windows.html  this is the one for the windows
side let me find the linux one

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC


> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:30:11PM -0500, rharvey wrote:
> > I found the how to for open ssh and followed the instructions and had
narry
> > a problem ( except in windows I had to put the key in the path so the
> > programs using ssh could find the key but then that is in the
instructions
> > too.)
>
> Where is the open SSH HOW-TO to be found?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
>
> -- C^2
>
> No windows were crashed in the making of this email.
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[expert] mail from CGI scripts

2000-10-27 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I have a user that has a frequently-accessed CGI script that is like an auto-responder 
- simply sends a message to the mail address the user types in on this form.

The problem is that the From: part of the message says "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", of which 
nlenet.net is the name of the machine.  I want this to be customized to the customer's 
virtual host name, also to keep bogus requests from being mailed back to me (root).

What is the proper syntax to call sendmail (or mail) with to set the From: address?

Bob



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Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC

2000-10-27 Thread Charles Curley

On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:30:11PM -0500, rharvey wrote:
> I found the how to for open ssh and followed the instructions and had narry
> a problem ( except in windows I had to put the key in the path so the
> programs using ssh could find the key but then that is in the instructions
> too.)

Where is the open SSH HOW-TO to be found?

Thanks


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Re: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC

2000-10-27 Thread rharvey

I found the how to for open ssh and followed the instructions and had narry
a problem ( except in windows I had to put the key in the path so the
programs using ssh could find the key but then that is in the instructions
too.)

robert
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:03 PM
Subject: [expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC


> After compiling OpenSSH myself versus both OpenSSL 0.9.5.a and 0.9.6, I
> cannot log in via sshd.  I have tried compiling normally and using the
> included /etc/pam.d/sshd file and I have also tried compiling sshd
> without pam support at all, and I am still unable to login at all,
> though I do get a prompt and then rejected.  What could possibly be
> preventing me from logging in at all with pam disabled in the compile?
> The compile went to completion fine and I can use the ssh client without
> a problem.  This is a stock Mandrake 7.2RC install without the OpenSSH
> rpm installed, as I wished to compile it myself.  Is there something in
> that RPM that I'm missing?  Even if I had the included sshd pam file
> from the RPM, it should still work without pam support compiled in.  I'm
> not on the list, so please reply to me as well.  Thanks, this is growing
> increasingly frustrating.
>
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[expert] Cannot login to OpenSSH in 7.2RC

2000-10-27 Thread Brian J. Conway

After compiling OpenSSH myself versus both OpenSSL 0.9.5.a and 0.9.6, I
cannot log in via sshd.  I have tried compiling normally and using the
included /etc/pam.d/sshd file and I have also tried compiling sshd
without pam support at all, and I am still unable to login at all,
though I do get a prompt and then rejected.  What could possibly be
preventing me from logging in at all with pam disabled in the compile? 
The compile went to completion fine and I can use the ssh client without
a problem.  This is a stock Mandrake 7.2RC install without the OpenSSH
rpm installed, as I wished to compile it myself.  Is there something in
that RPM that I'm missing?  Even if I had the included sshd pam file
from the RPM, it should still work without pam support compiled in.  I'm
not on the list, so please reply to me as well.  Thanks, this is growing
increasingly frustrating. 

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Re: [expert] HELP!!!! how do you give a user rights to stay in his own home dir? How do you turn off services to just one user?

2000-10-27 Thread Larry Tobos


>
>How do you give a user rights to make them stay in his own home dir? How do
>you turn off services to just one user?
>

To selectively turn off services for one or a group of users, define in the 
Kadduser a new group, that has access denied to the given services
Then, specify with chmod no rights for the group

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Re: [expert] Upgrading CPU...

2000-10-27 Thread TK Kim


I am going to upgrade from Celeron 300A to PentiumIII 700e.

thx


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>
>TK Kim wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > If I upgrade the CPU on my system, do I need to recompile the system?
> > If so, how do I go into system?  with a boot disk?
> >
> > THX
>
>Define upgrade CPU??
>
>replace with same family higher speed = no
>replace mobo and CPU to higher family = no
>  but
>if you do replace mobo and CPU to faster family/speed you have the option
>(note option means you can but don't have to) to recompile the kernel to
>optimize for your new chipset.
>
>
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RE: [expert] HELP!!!! how do you give a user rights to stay in his own home dir? How do you turn off services to just one user?

2000-10-27 Thread Ken Wilson

I don't think you can short of turning off world privileges on everything
and moving it all to a special group that you have added your 'good' users
to.  One way I do know works, delete this user, reducing his access and the
size of his home to zero.

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Re: [expert] Upgrading CPU...

2000-10-27 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

TK Kim wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If I upgrade the CPU on my system, do I need to recompile the system?
> If so, how do I go into system?  with a boot disk?
>
> THX

Define upgrade CPU??

replace with same family higher speed = no
replace mobo and CPU to higher family = no
 but
if you do replace mobo and CPU to faster family/speed you have the option
(note option means you can but don't have to) to recompile the kernel to
optimize for your new chipset.


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Re: [expert] Upgrading CPU...

2000-10-27 Thread Praedor Tempus

TK Kim wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If I upgrade the CPU on my system, do I need to recompile the system?
> If so, how do I go into system?  with a boot disk?


I upgraded from a Celeron 400 to an Athlon 700.  Totally
different motherboard, totally different CPU.  My system
booted up immediately without any problems whatsoever.

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[expert] Upgrading CPU...

2000-10-27 Thread TK Kim

Hi,

If I upgrade the CPU on my system, do I need to recompile the system?
If so, how do I go into system?  with a boot disk?

THX
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Re: [expert] Serial Port Woes... no where else to turn! :(

2000-10-27 Thread Ken Tarwood

On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, you wrote:
> 
> 
> For starters, its ttySx NOT ttysx:

After fixing this problem and making sure all the setting matched up, I sent
the direct echo and only got a DTE and DCE response on the terminal side (I
used some serial port analyzer software). However, the ascii characters did not
go through. Is there some other modifications I should be making to get my
Linux box to transmit something besides response codes?
Thanks,
Ken

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Re: [expert] Re: Wordperfect 2000 and 7.1

2000-10-27 Thread Gerald Williams

On Thursday 26 October 2000 07:45, you wrote:

> > > Larry Marshall's comments made me rethink my assumptions about the
> > printing problems I've had with WPO 2000 Deluxe.  Thank you, Larry.
>
> Glad I could help.
>
> > correctly.  This rang a bell, and upon checking, I discovered that
> > Mandrake 7.1 "secure" leaves /etc/printcap mode 600.  Naturally, a user
> > process like WP can't read it, and, therefore, can't set up printers.
>
> I think I just learned more than I taught :-)

While you guys are on this subject, what's the magic combo to get wpo2000 
to work with/recognize the cups /etc/printcap file. my mode is 660. 
Actually, I'm not too sure about my printcap file--it has only one thing; 
ap3250 no hash marks, backslashes or anything else.(g)  Any clues welcome.

Jerry 


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[expert] HELP!!!! how do you give a user rights to stay in his own home dir? How do you turn off services to just one user?

2000-10-27 Thread rharvey

How do you give a user rights to make them stay in his own home dir? How do
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Re: [expert] Fw: cgi - file not found but it is there!!!!

2000-10-27 Thread Daniel Woods

> I have several cgi files but a new one we just put into the directory wont
> run.  when you try to run it, the system says file not found
> Whats up?
> thanks

You haven't been paying attention to the list. I just gave a very long
explanation of this for someone else two days ago.
Search http://dejanews.com for subject "Perl scripts won't work???".

The short answer is that you are trying to execute a dos/win file.

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[expert] mime type config file error

2000-10-27 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

when logging into a kde session I get the following error

mime type config file
/usr/share/mimelnk/inode/directory.kdelnk
does not contain a mime type = ... entry


thena kfm error

could not find mime type inode directory

what causes this and where can I look to correct it?  The system (7.1
mdk) was working very well until this.

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RE: [expert] No mouse scroll after KDE2

2000-10-27 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

Same on my system, so I still run imwheel

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Subject: [expert] No mouse scroll after KDE2


After installing KDE2, mouse scroll stopped working in Nescape, but works 
fine in any KDE apps such as Konquerer, KEdit, and so on.
Anybody has the same happened?  And, how do I fix this?

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Re: [expert] Is there ANYONE who installed KDE2 without any glitch on a MDK7.1?!

2000-10-27 Thread Matthew Micene

On Friday 27 October 2000 05:04, you wrote:

> If there is anyone who installed KDE2 final on a MDK7.1 system without
> any problems, please let me know how...

Ok to weigh in on the side of KDE  and Mandrake, I had only one problem 
with the installation of KDE, a bad kdebase rpm that didn't properly 
finish installing.  Here's how I did it, went to the KDE mirror, grabbed 
the mandrake binaries into a directory and rpm -Uvvh'd the whole thing.  
then I watched what failed, figured out what needed to be updated, and 
updated those.  Sound works, video, legacy apps, EXECEPT for Cervisia 
which wants libkfm.so.2.  It looks to me like kfm no longer exists in KDE2 
and there is something else to replace it (please correct me if I am 
wrong).  In order to correct the bad kdebase rpm, I grabbed the kdebase 
tarball and installed that.  

I have also (for no real good reason other than something else to do :) 
have been slowly replacing the rpms with the tarballs from the KDE 
mirrors.  So far I haven't broken anything :)  But, aside from the broken 
kdebase rpm, my original install went just fine. 

As far as installing rpms to alternte locations, there are two ways I can 
think of:
1) read the man page about --relocate switches to an rpm install.
 A warning however, not all packages CAN be relocated.
2) install it where it wants to go, make a list of the file locations,
move the install tree to /opt/kde2 and make a symlink to it from the
original location.

I can give some more specifics about what I had installed and the way I 
went about if someone is interested.

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Re: [expert] Fw: cgi - file not found but it is there!!!!

2000-10-27 Thread Jose L. Marcos

rharvey wrote:
> 
> that was not it they all have the same settings... i can run all the old
> ones but the new one gives the error
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Re: [expert] Fw: cgi - file not found but it is there
> 
> > My guess is that the execute bit on the script is not set. In the your
> > cgi directory, run:
> >
> > chmod +x 

What kind of cgi is it ? 

If it's some kind of script (either Shell or Perl) just check out if the
'#!' first line of your script points to the right interpreter.

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RE: [expert] Is there ANYONE who installed KDE2 without any glitch on a MDK7.1?!

2000-10-27 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

I upgraded a few packages, removed all kde1.x packages, and installed the tar 
files with no problems. KDE2 works fine --- all aspects of it. Mandrake RPM's 
were causing so many hassles. I don't know why they had to compile against 
7.2 beta, and I still think they should have had a better README than what
they put out stating upgrade these packages, and then probably others too.
That is not worth reading! Oh well nuff said



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glitch on a MDK7.1?!


On Friday 27 October 2000 03:04, you wrote:

> > Hi All,
>
> From the posts, it seems to be that *everybody* had and still having
> problems with KDE2 final on Mandrake.
>
> If there is anyone who installed KDE2 final on a MDK7.1 system without any
> problems, please let me know how...
[...]

Hello,

I DID have problems installing and running KDE 2 on 7.1, but as it turns out 
it is not BECAUSE it was 7.1.  I actually am running a bit of a hybrid 
7.1/7.2/Cooker system.  I upgraded a few packages too far (I know there was a 
reason at the time but cannot think of it now)...for instance, it appears 
that the version of libstdc++ you have is very important in regards to the 
menu rpm.  I had a mismatch in the preferrred version (no warning messages, 
etc) for menu such that it was impossible to properly install qt2 or kde 2 
rpms.  Making menu and libstdc++ match by installing the rpms from 7.1 for 
each instead of 7.2 or Cooker corrected that problem.  If you try to upgrade 
to menu and libstdc++ from Cooker or 7.2 you will have to upgrade a host of 
other rpms too - and it isn't worth it.

After this, kde 2 and qt2 installed fine and run MOSTLY OK.  There are 
problems with kde 2 itself...bugs.

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Re: [expert] pgcc ok to compile kde2 ?

2000-10-27 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Pardon me for being dense, but what do you mean by "How about both?"?
Are you saying that both of what I have are equivalent to the
requirements?

Ron

Buchan Milne wrote:
> 
> Hopw about both ?
> 
> "Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > While analysing the feasibilty of installing kde2.0 on my old
> > Mandrake 6.0, I find that kde2 requires egcs 1.1.x or gcc 2.95.x.
> >
> > Well, here is what I have:
> > libstdc++-2.9.0-3mdk
> > libstdc++-devel-1.1.3-3mdk
> > pgcc-c++-1.1.3-3mdk
> >
> > Is pgcc an acceptable equivalent to either of the 2 required
> > compilers, or must I rip them out and install egcs-1.1.2?
> >
> > (Since this has to do with both kde & mdk, I thought that a
> > cross-post would be justified.)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Ron
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Re: [expert] Kernel Panic

2000-10-27 Thread BillK

Check your fans are working and especially that the cpu fan is not
blocked by dust/lint.  My K6-2/400 gives a few oops'es like this at the
start of summer, signalling its time for a clean.  If neglected, Random
reboots occur and eventually, if the day is especially hot, it just
locks solid.

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Re: [expert] Is there ANYONE who installed KDE2 without any glitch on a MDK7.1?!

2000-10-27 Thread praedor

On Friday 27 October 2000 03:04, you wrote:

> > Hi All,
>
> From the posts, it seems to be that *everybody* had and still having
> problems with KDE2 final on Mandrake.
>
> If there is anyone who installed KDE2 final on a MDK7.1 system without any
> problems, please let me know how...
[...]

Hello,

I DID have problems installing and running KDE 2 on 7.1, but as it turns out 
it is not BECAUSE it was 7.1.  I actually am running a bit of a hybrid 
7.1/7.2/Cooker system.  I upgraded a few packages too far (I know there was a 
reason at the time but cannot think of it now)...for instance, it appears 
that the version of libstdc++ you have is very important in regards to the 
menu rpm.  I had a mismatch in the preferrred version (no warning messages, 
etc) for menu such that it was impossible to properly install qt2 or kde 2 
rpms.  Making menu and libstdc++ match by installing the rpms from 7.1 for 
each instead of 7.2 or Cooker corrected that problem.  If you try to upgrade 
to menu and libstdc++ from Cooker or 7.2 you will have to upgrade a host of 
other rpms too - and it isn't worth it.

After this, kde 2 and qt2 installed fine and run MOSTLY OK.  There are 
problems with kde 2 itself...bugs.

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Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 7.2 starting to appear

2000-10-27 Thread Jeff Malka

> It looks like 7.2 is starting to appear on mirrors. The interesting bit
> is that the tutorials that are on linux-mandrake.com appear to be
> included in the distro. Good Idea !! For those interested, you can look
> at 
> http://ftp.sun.ac.za/linux/distributions/linux-mandrake/mandrake/7.2/i586/tutorial/
> (our local unofficial mirror)
> 
> I wonder if they included the offline achive of muo ? That would also
> have been useful.

This is the time to ask:

When installing the new mandrake 7.2, do you install it "on top" of the 7.1 or
do you have to do something first.

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Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 7.1 and libstdc++

2000-10-27 Thread Larry Marshall

> On my 7.1 deluxe CD1:
> libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
> gcc-c++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
> On CD2:
> libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> As far as I know, the images for the GPL install and extended CDs are
> the same ones used for all the commercial versions 

If you wander out RIGHT NOW and buy a copy of LM 7.1 Complete off the
shelf you'll get an installation disk, a source disk, and an
"Applications" disk that carries a single use license.  There isn't and
ext CD in the package so it would be hard to be the "same" as the
downloadable isos.  I'll speak no more on this subject as we've already
heard from Mandrakesoft that I don't know what I'm talking about.  They're
probably right.

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Re: [expert] Serial Port Woes... no where else to turn! :(

2000-10-27 Thread Ken Tarwood

> 
> For starters, its ttySx NOT ttysx:
> 
> bash-2.03$ setserial /dev/ttys0
> /dev/ttys0: Input/output error
> bash-2.03$ setserial /dev/ttyS0
> /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied
> bash-2.03$ sudo setserial /dev/ttyS0
> Password:
> /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
> 

Doh! How did I know it would be something stupid like that :P

> 
> For doing a straight echo like that, and expecting something at the other
> end, you need to setup baud rates etc.  Generally you set something like
> this up in iniitab, to watch the serial port with a getty, then when the
> terminal program connects you get a login prompt:

Yip, read about all that. Hopefully that will all work now, thanks a bunch!


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Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 7.1 and libstdc++

2000-10-27 Thread Larry Marshall

> They were, however all released at the same time, and I would suspect
> were written from the same ISOs. My Deluxe CDs are indentical to the
> ones I wrote from ISO (at least in terms of the packages on them). I
> can't say anything about the rest, but that would be the logical
> assumption.

There is something more fundamental here that people need to come to grips
with.  Just because Linux distributors put version numbers on their boxes
doesn't mean that each shrinkwrap package that says 7.1 on it is going to
be the same as any other any more than when you buy W'98.  I've bought two
versions of LM7.1 Complete and they were different.  I knew they were
different before I bought them as the second one makes a big deal about
the fact that Star Office 5.2 is included.  Star Office 5.2 wasn't even
available when I bought the first one.

I think a better "logical assumption" is that these packages
vary.  Certainly all evidence from watching people talking in [newbie]
about this issue suggests that there is variation.  I, and the other guy
who opened this thread, aren't talking from "assumption" however.  We've
got the disks in our hot little mitts and there's no way these disks are
the same as the isos as one of the iso disks isn't even in the package.

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Re: [expert] Serial Port Woes... no where else to turn! :(

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne



Stew Benedict wrote:
> 
[snip]
> Now if you are trying to go the other way from the Linux box to the
> Windows box, I'm not sure what you hope to be able to do once you're
> connected. Not much, unless you're running some BBS software on the
> Windows box.  In that case, use minicom on the Linux end.
 
Hyperterminal should work as a terminal emulator. Comes standard on most
versions of windows.


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Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 7.1 and libstdc++

2000-10-27 Thread Jose Carlos Gonzalez

Buchan Milne wrote:

>On my 7.1 deluxe CD1:
>libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
>gcc-c++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
>On CD2:
>libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
>
>As far as I know, the images for the GPL install and extended CDs are
>the same ones used for all the commercial versions 
>

I agree, it should be show.  Anyway, I don't have my CDs
here.  I will check them, and make a list. 

BUT, the Linux Mandrake Essential that I bought, as I say,
does *not* include the "Extensions disk" (where I understood
is the libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm), but something
called "Applications CD".

Cheers,

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Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 7.1 and libstdc++

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

There is 

Larry Marshall wrote:
[snip]
> 
> What I can tell you is that when I did an expert install with the disks I
> just bought, there was no libstdc++ and no libstdc++-devel listed in the
> Development area of the package listings.
> 
> > Below are the two files you guys have been discussing.  These
> > are from my 2 CD set I bought from LinuxLand as a pre-order
> > when 7.1 was released.  The library is on the Installation CD
> > and the development package is on the Extension CD.

Well, just try this and tell us what you see:
1)Insert your install cd into the CD-ROM drive
2)If not using supermount, mount the cd as /mnt/cdrom
3)type "ls /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/libstd*

> Alain...did you know that Linux Mandrake 7.1 has been "released" at least
> twice as a shrinkwrapped package?  I know this because I've bought both of
> them.  The later one came with Star Office 5.2 and a few other
> things.  These items are clearly marked on the box.  I bought the second
> one as I'd given the first to a friend.  As for iso variations there are
> many and the highly variable file sizes have been discussed as well.

There are 4 different commercial packages of Linux Mandrake 7.1:
Macmillans Complete and Deluxe
Mandrakes Essential and Power Pack
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fpowerpack.php3

They were, however all released at the same time, and I would suspect
were written from the same ISOs. My Deluxe CDs are indentical to the
ones I wrote from ISO (at least in terms of the packages on them). I
can't say anything about the rest, but that would be the logical
assumption.

Buchan

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Re: [expert] heartbeat

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

As far as I know it's from VA Linux's redundant server system (look on
freshmeat). Heartbeat is supposed to check for other heartbeat servers,
on is elected as the master and checks periodically to see that the
other machines are up, assignis IPs from a pool to the machines are up. 

Maybe if it doesn't find any other servers running heartbeat it will die
...

You probably don't need it unless you are trying to run highly available
servers.

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> 
> what is heartbeat what would cause it to fail?
> 
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Re: [expert] foward or specify the trouble shooting email that is sent to the root account to my user account.

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

Or "newaliases" if you are running postfix. A "service postfix reload"
won't do any harm either (just to make sure).

Buchan

Charles Curley wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 08:04:38AM +0800, Muzza wrote:
> > Last line in /etc/aliases
> > Change default name to your user name and remove the leading "#"
> 
> Right. Then run "aliases" to make it effective.
> 
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, rharvey wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > How do I foward or specify the trouble shooting email that is sent to the
> > > root account, to my user account so I don't have to log in as root every
> > > time there is an error message in the system.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >   CYA,
> >   Muzza.
> > Mandrake Linux 7.1
> > Current Linux uptime: 13 days 19 hours 54 minutes.
> >
> 
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Re: [expert] Kernel Panic

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

It looks like it could be bad memory, but I've never seen messages like
this before (ie I'm just guessing).

You might want to try the machine with other memory.

Buchan

Andy Abshagen wrote:
> 
> OK.  So everything has been going along fine until this morning.  All of a
> sudden I noticed that our new qmail server stopped responding.  I went to
> the qmail server and noticed that there was a kernel panic message on the
> screen and then something about tcpserver.  Since the first time it seems
> that the machine will only stay up and running about 10-15 minutes.  So I'm
> starting to get in a bind on this one.  I'm hoping someone can help me out
> with this since I've never seen anything like it before.  Below is the logs
> from syslog relative the lockup.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Background about the install.  Running Mandrake 7.0 with Kernel 2.2.14 (I
> know I should get this upgraded to 2.2.17 or higher)  Pretty stock except
> for all extra services shutdown.  The box is only used for mail services
> both smtp and pop3.
> 
> Thanks
> Andy Abshagen
> System Administrator
> Data-Vision, Inc.
> 219-243-8625, 888-925-8625
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> 
> __
> This is the first problem
> __
> 
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
> dereference at virtual address 0008
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 0d6c8000, %cr3 = 0d6c8000
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: *pde = 
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: Oops: 
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: CPU:0
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: EIP:0010:[kfree+112/468]
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: EFLAGS: 00010082
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: eax: 0200   ebx: d7fff080   ecx: 
> edx: cbfba87c
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: esi: cbfba840   edi: 0202   ebp: 0a4a
> esp: cccd7d9c
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: Process slocate (pid: 1629, process nr: 55,
> stackpage=cccd7000)
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: Stack: cbe2f928 0a4a cbe3ca80 cbe3ca60
> c011a569 cca0fb60 cca0fc78 
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel:cccd7dd8 c0135e71 cbfba840 cbe3c9e0
> c010c397 c0144c3a d7fe8008 c02215bc
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: cccd7e2c c02215c4 cccd7e2c
> 0001 1000 cccd7e2c 0001
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: Call Trace: [do_bottom_half+81/108]
> [prune_dcache+229/312] [do_IRQ+63/68] [inode_getblk+74/420] [
> try_to_free_inodes+274/476] [grow_inodes+32/436] [ext2_find_entry+504/804]
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel:[get_new_inode+193/420] [iget+227/240]
> [__brelse+64/136] [ext2_lookup+90/140] [lookup_dent
> ry+523/912] [__namei+170/224] [__namei+27/224] [filldir+0/136]
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel:[sys_newlstat+20/116]
> [common_interrupt+24/32] [system_call+52/64]
> Oct 26 10:22:36 mail kernel: Code: 8b 41 08 3d 2b 2f c3 a5 0f 85 e6 00 00 00
> 8b 41 0c 85 c0 74
> 
> __
> This is the second
> __
> 
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at
> virtual address e7e6e5ec
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 0d47a000, %cr3 = 0d47a000
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: *pde = 
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: Oops: 
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: CPU:0
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: EIP:
> 0010:[update_vm_cache_conditional+127/312]
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: EFLAGS: 00010286
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: eax: ce333d88   ebx: e7e6e5e4   ecx: 6b39
> edx: 00389000
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: esi:    edi: 00388000   ebp: 0400
> esp: cd947e7c
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: Process qmail-queue (pid: 988, process nr: 55,
> stackpage=cd947000)
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: Stack: cbfe2047  00389000 
> cbfe2447 0047 cc01ef20 0010
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel:0014 c01432b9 ce333d88 00388047
> cbfe2047 0400 0804c860 0804c860
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel:0400 cd947f00 ce333dd4 cd2600e0
> ffea 0400 cd947ef0 c010bb08
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: Call Trace: [ext2_file_write+1089/1520]
> [common_interrupt+24/32] [schedule+322/636] [pipe_read+31
> 9/368] [pipe_read+303/368] [sys_write+195/232] [system_call+52/64]
> Oct 26 11:05:33 mail kernel: Code: 39 43 08 75 f0 39 7b 0c 75 eb ff 43 14 b8
> 02 00 00 00 0f ab
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: divide error: 
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: CPU:0
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: EIP:0010:[ext2_update_inode+101/856]
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: EFLAGS: 00010246
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: eax: 000862dd   ebx: 000862de   ecx: d7643c00
> edx: 
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: esi: c01e8deb   edi: ce33e000   ebp: d7643c3c
> esp: d7fdbeec
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
> Oct 26 11:05:37 mail kernel: Process kupdate (p

Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

That is what I make by putting together announcements made by Mandrake
insiders on linuxtoday and stories on mandrakeforum.

Start checking your local mirrors and get there before someone posts to
slashdot !

Buchan

Leopold Palomo wrote:
> 
> Buchan Milne wrote:
> 
> > Why don't you just wait another 5 days for mdk7.2 to come out, and use
> > the new rpm and menu from there (which won't be compiled with
> > glibc2.96). Also, have you tried using another  version of rpm and
> > compiling menu from source ?
> >
> > Buchan
> >
> 
> Are you saying that mdk 7.2 will be official in few days with de kde2?
> 
> Leo
> 
> Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
> 
> Linux User 152692
> Catalonia
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Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 7.1 and libstdc++

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

On my 7.1 deluxe CD1:
libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
gcc-c++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
On CD2:
libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm

As far as I know, the images for the GPL install and extended CDs are
the same ones used for all the commercial versions 

Buchan

Larry Marshall wrote:
> 
> > My two-cd set of 7.1, downloaded and home-burned, contains:
> >
> > CD1 (MDK 7.1 Install): libstdc++-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
> >   binarys to be capable of execute things compiled with
> >   C++. The only thing you need if you're not a developer.
> > CD2 (MDK 7.1 Extensions): libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
> >   Headers and generic links (libstdc++.so -> libstdc++.so.X.Y.Z)
> >   to develop soft:
> >   rpm -qilp libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-7mdk.i586.rpm
> >   ...
> >   /usr/include/g++-3/iostream.h
> >   ...
> > Both usable with the gcc-g++-2.95.2-7.i586.rpm that is in CD1.
> >
> > Which is the mistake ?
> 
> I guess it's buying the distribution :-)  My suspicion is that they've
> added them to the isos as they simply aren't to be found on their
> shrink-wrapped disks.  In the previous discussion I think there were some
> guys who'd gotten it via isos and also didn't have the ANSI library but
> I'm not certain.
> 
> Cheers --- Larry
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Re: [expert] Moving partitions

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

You also need to edit the grub/lilo config files to pass the right root
location, if you are moving your root, or be prepared to do it on the
lilo commandline.

Buchan

Charles Curley wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 01:10:28PM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote:
> > Not sure I understand.  I can move the partition effortlessly using
> > Partition Magic.  I just needed to know if this would mess up the path
> > structure or something else that linux uses.
> >
> > Is that what cat is about?
> 
> No. Cat will move the data, but won't modify how the partitions are
> mounted. What you need to do is move the data around from partition to
> partition, then edit /etc/fstab to mount the new partition where the old
> one was. That will preserve your paths and other data.
> 
> Also, I'm not sure that cat is appropriate here. It would work copying to
> a new partition of the smae size. I don't think it will work if the new
> partition is smaller, and if the new one is larger, you risk losing the
> difference.
> 
> I'd look into cpio, dd and tar for this.
> 
> >
> > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Registered Linux user  183185
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Rivera, Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: [expert] Moving partitions
> >
> >
> > > you can use the cat command to move the partition.
> > >
> > > cat /dev/hd? > /dev/hd?
> 
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Re: [expert] Mounting NTFS drive.

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

If you REALLY want to try writing (ie you are keen to destroy the data,
and just want to see how mcuh linux can do with ntfs so far) you will
need to download a recent kernel (2.4.0testx) and compile with
experimental options, somewhere under file-systems is rw ntfs.

Otherwise, if you want to transfer data between NT and linux, you need
to a have a FAT16 partition (as you would with win98/nt anyway). For
98/linux you could use FAT32, but in my case I have win98/NT4/Mdk7.1 so
use FAT16.

Buchan

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> I've got Mandrake 7.02 on my laptop and have NT4 on another partition. How
> do I go about mounting this partition so that I can write to it?
> 
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Re: [expert] WEB based RPM selection again

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne



Marco Fioretti wrote:
> 
> Buchan Milne wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > >
> > > Excellent Ideas.  To carry it (run script from floppy) farther...  the first 
>part of
> > > the install would ensure an internet connection, the second part would call into
> > > play someone's (sorry forgot who) idea of a web based script that would allow a 
>user
> > > to select from packages to load and either write a script to floppy/hard disk to
> > > install the remainder of the available packages from the CD's (assuming that 
>local
> > > access is faster than d/ling from inet.)
> >
> > As long as you don't mean that the installation is dependant on an
> > internet connection ...
> >
> 
> Exactly. My original proposal of a web based package selection was meant
> to
> happen completely BEFORE installation. My point was that:
> 
> 1) As Buchan pointed out, any kinf of installation (except ftp based, of
> course)


Even with FTP, the install should not be _internet_ dependant. Sometimes
a network connection will be present , but no internet. I our
university, we need to run a special program to get through the
proxy/firewall.

>should not rely on internet connection made on the fly by the
> installation
>script. For example, when I custom installed LM 7.1 I choose to
> connect to
>the internet to download crypto packages, and the perl backend simply
> died on
>me.

This was my biggest gripe with 7.1. The install tries to contact a
predefined set of crypto mirrors, none of which were accessible due to
our proxy/firewall, when we had a local crypto mirror. It should have
allowed sppecifying another ftp location, or have the ability to install
the packages from a location on the machine (cdrom, harddrive)

> 2) Finding out the exact set of applications one need takes  long time,
> and no two
>sets will be equal. This is why one should have all the time needed
> to do it well
>BEFORE installation, which everybody wants to be as fast and smooth
> as possible. So
>when it comes to package selection, one should have **already**:
> 
> figured out all the APPLICATIONS he or she wants to run
> 
> written out somewhere that list, and
> 
> just put the list into the PC, via a floppy, go have a coffee and
> find a
> completely configured machine, no more tweeking needed, thank you.
> 
> At risk of bore someone, let me repeat that this web based thing should
> be APPLICATION
> centric, and maintain state between sessions. One should be able to tell
> it (maybe in two
> or three times):
> I want the Gimp, Koffice, Window Maker, bash, gcc, perl, apache,
> gnuplot
> 
> and the script should find the minimum set of packages needed, including
> libraries
> and such, tell the disk space needed and allow list editing.
> 
> Since we are dreaming, let it allow HW selection also, i.e. let's have
> it ask which
> graphic/sound/modem/network cards you have and include only the
> necessary files
> to use them.
> 

If done well, this could really rule !

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Re: [expert] Serial Port Woes... no where else to turn! :(

2000-10-27 Thread Stew Benedict


For starters, its ttySx NOT ttysx:

bash-2.03$ setserial /dev/ttys0
/dev/ttys0: Input/output error
bash-2.03$ setserial /dev/ttyS0
/dev/ttyS0: Permission denied
bash-2.03$ sudo setserial /dev/ttyS0
Password:
/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4


For doing a straight echo like that, and expecting something at the other
end, you need to setup baud rates etc.  Generally you set something like
this up in iniitab, to watch the serial port with a getty, then when the
terminal program connects you get a login prompt:

# Serial lines 
#s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty -L 9600 ttyR0 vt100
#s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100

Just uncomment (remove the #) and set the rates/terminal type
appropriately.

Now if you are trying to go the other way from the Linux box to the
Windows box, I'm not sure what you hope to be able to do once you're
connected. Not much, unless you're running some BBS software on the
Windows box.  In that case, use minicom on the Linux end.

Stew Benedict

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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4 & ML 7.1

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

Do you run any non-ext2 file systems ? Did you enable support for them
directly (not as modules)?.

There is a hackkernel on rpmfind, which is 2.4.0testx for Mandrake

Buchan

paulham wrote:
> 
> I'm having a problem getting a new 2.4pre7 kernel running on 7.1
> 
> The kernel compiles ok but on reboot the system says it cant read the hd.
> something about bad superblock.
> I get error re swap partition and native partition.
> 
> Anyone got any clues for me?
> Do I need to update some files?
> BTW if I boot with a 2.2.16 kernel I have no probs
> 
> Are there any Mandrake rpms for 2.4.x available?
> 
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[expert] Linux Mandrake 7.2 starting to appear

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

Hi All,

It looks like 7.2 is starting to appear on mirrors. The interesting bit
is that the tutorials that are on linux-mandrake.com appear to be
included in the distro. Good Idea !! For those interested, you can look
at 
http://ftp.sun.ac.za/linux/distributions/linux-mandrake/mandrake/7.2/i586/tutorial/
(our local unofficial mirror)

I wonder if they included the offline achive of muo ? That would also
have been useful.

Oh well, time to wait until the mirror is complete. 

Buchan

P.S.
For those of you who will be downloading via modem, it's too bad. When
mandrake appears on the mirror, it will be 15 minutes per iso (10 Mbps)
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Re: [expert] pgcc ok to compile kde2 ?

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

Hopw about both ?

"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> While analysing the feasibilty of installing kde2.0 on my old
> Mandrake 6.0, I find that kde2 requires egcs 1.1.x or gcc 2.95.x.
> 
> Well, here is what I have:
> libstdc++-2.9.0-3mdk
> libstdc++-devel-1.1.3-3mdk
> pgcc-c++-1.1.3-3mdk
> 
> Is pgcc an acceptable equivalent to either of the 2 required
> compilers, or must I rip them out and install egcs-1.1.2?
> 
> (Since this has to do with both kde & mdk, I thought that a
> cross-post would be justified.)
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ron
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Re: [expert] Memory Size

2000-10-27 Thread Buchan Milne

No, it is actually a BIOS issue, which is why you are told in many docs
on this issue to upgrade your BIOS. LILO does not actually care about
the memory at all, it just passes the commandline options to the kernel.

Windows might have other methods (non-BIOS) of determining the amount of
memory, because I have never seen it make a mistake.

Buchan

Michael Proto wrote:
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> Phil Connor wrote:
> >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Tobos
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> > > Subject: Re: [expert] Memory Size
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is not true anymore for 2.2 kernels, and since ..
> >
> > Wish that were true in all cases, got a p3/600 setting right behind me that
> > required me to append the memory in Lilo. Seems it's more bios related since
> > the kernel version is 2.2.15
> 
> Actually, I believe this is a limitation of lilo itself, not the BIOS or
> kernel version.
> 
> In any case, adding the following to /etc/lilo.conf should fix it:
> 
> append="mem=320M"
> 
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[expert] Is there ANYONE who installed KDE2 without any glitch on a MDK7.1?!

2000-10-27 Thread Viktor Lakics

Hi All,

>From the posts, it seems to be that *everybody* had and still having problems
with KDE2 final on Mandrake. 

If there is anyone who installed KDE2 final on a MDK7.1 system without any
problems, please let me know how...

I know, that normally only the problems get posted, but I think this time we
need someone who post a working solution...

I cannot beleive that there is no way to install KDE2 without loosing sound,
screwing up systems, and already working programs..

I have a wonderfully working Mandrake 7.1 distribution with a lot of
hand-editing for config files, customizing things etc.

I also have KDE 1.2 installed in a usual Mandrake/Redhat places. I would 
like to install KDE 2.0 final into /opt/kde2 to try it, and use konqueror,
kmail etc.


My questions are:

How can I put KDE2 final onto /opt/kde2 ?

Do I need to uninstall KDE1.2 (which is all over /usr/bin) first?

I do not mind to compile qt and KDE, or make it using RPMs, but I want to be
sure, that If something gets screwed up I do not have to reinstall my MDK7.1.
(I suspect that if I compile the aborted compilation does not screw up KDE
1.2?! Anyone have a comment?)

Mandrake rpms are available, I know, but 
i) they are for 7.2 - I do not want to upgrade my system.
ii) they will go to /usr/bin and I want it to be /opt/KDE2...

Can anyone give me and advice what would be the safest way to go?!

Thanks in advance

Viktor



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Re: [expert] Linux Mandrake 7.1 and libstdc++

2000-10-27 Thread Viêt

> Anyway, in the installation process I realized that there
> was two additional CDs I didn't have. Well, no problem about
> this... for the moment.

did you purchase a powerpack or an Essential ?
 
> But I was puzzled when, after choosing "Development" in the
> general orientation for my workstation, and selected ALL the
> packages (I checked them one by one anyway), I got installed
> the g++ compiler, of course, lots of IDE (like KDevelop),
> the binaries of STL (libstdc++) versions 2.8.1 and a
> previous one (I don't remember the number), but
> 
>   THERE WAS NO HEADER FILE CORRESPONDING TO THE STL!!!

try compiling with -lstdc++
 
> My question is: Is this a (stupid/simple) mistake from
> Mandrake, or it is done in purpose?

none of those. I think gcc usage has changed slightly, the
same way we used to include  that is really
 now.


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