[expert] Mozilla update confusion
Dear friends: Just take a look! Linux is confused by the Mozilla version numbers. It thinks that mozilla-0.8-2 (i.e. 0.8, the version released on Feb. 17) is newer than mozilla-0.8.1 (the version recently issued on March 26). How is this possible. A human being might slip but how could a machine? Any explanation? [root@sher07 mozilla]# rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm package mozilla-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk) is already installed package mozilla-mail-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk) is already installed package mozilla-psm-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk) is already installed [root@sher07 mozilla]# rm mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm rm: remove `mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm'? [root@sher07 mozilla]# rm mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm rm: remove `mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm'? This, however, does not explain the "runtime mismatch, so leaking context" error message you get when installing mozilla 0.8.1 because I had uninstalled version 0.8 and deleted all files (including hidden files and configuration files) before installing the new 0.8.1 version. Yours, Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] Followup: Mandrake 7.2 with Samba 2.0.7xxmdk
Ok, Some of you might remember me sending an e-mail about shared memory problems when running samba 2.0.7 18 and 19mdk under Mandrake 7.2.. It took a while, but one of the users in this list finally helped me to solve the problem... When booting mandrake I started up with the secure kernel, this seems to really cut down the permissions to the shared memory, a simple switch to an "un"secure kernel, and samba works like a charm again... Just wanted to let you know.. // Mattias
Re: [expert] How to add to windowmanager drop down list?
Take a look at /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ There are scrits for different windowmanagers. Modify one and name it 02XFCE or what you will. HTH, Juha On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, William Bouterse wrote: On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:42:08 -0400 "Jeff Malka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded the xfce that came with my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest version and installed it successfully. However, since the upgrade, xfce no longer appears among the list of drop-down choices in the graphic login. It used to be there. How do I add it back to the options? Jeff I am Presently using LM 7.2 with extras. Since LM 7.1 I have had this problem as well and have asked and seen asked dozens of times both on the XFCE and the Mandrake Lists a simple straight forward solution to the problem. Many and believe me MANY people have responded to this with a multitude of methods, few have voiced success though there has been the occasional victory. However for me personally nothing has EVER worked. Perhaps Mandrakesoft could work more closely with Oliver who lives and works in France? This is a fine WindowManager and should be treated as such. Some have even thought icewm was xfce because of Mandrakes paticular style of configuration. I always end up putting an .xinitrc file for each user who uses xfce into their home directory and going the startx route. Though AutoLogin as primary user works too. Sorry this doesnt answer your question but I have spent MANY hours following up on solutions from helpful and knowledgable individuals and with several years of Linux/Mandrake/XFCE use I still can't make it work right!!! Maybe you will be one of the Lucky Ones :) Good Luck William Bouterse Talkeetna, Ak
[expert] Samba Gotcha
I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates winmail.dat
Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel? The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't allow access to the shared memory.. // Mattias - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha
I'm using medium security - how would I know the differencebetween kernels? Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mattias Segerdahl Sent: 09 April 2001 09:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel? The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't allow access to the shared memory.. // Mattias - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
Try booting the ordinary wmlinuz kernel and see if it works... Check your lilo.conf for more information.. // Mattias - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha I'm using medium security - how would I know the differencebetween kernels? Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mattias Segerdahl Sent: 09 April 2001 09:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel? The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't allow access to the shared memory.. // Mattias - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
[expert] upgrade RPM 3 to 4 -- Where?
Dear friends: I recently heard that Red Hat has produced a special RPM package that will allow Red Hat 6 users (who use rpm version 3 to upgrade packages that are built with rpm version 4). If so, does anyone know where I can find this information, and, more importantly, what is the opinion of Mandrake experts on whether such an rpm "upgrade" would work in Mandrake 7.2? Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
The last time I looked (Samba 2.07) it was _not_ capable of functioning as a PDC or BDC for NT/Win2000 clients - only Win9x. I think you will find that this functionality is due for release with Samba 2.1 Chris Slater-Walker - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:05, Daryl Johnson wrote: I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 Umm...you have done all the encrypted/cleartext password stuff when you set up Samba? ie...which did you do...told NT to run Clear passwords or told 95 to run encrypted?
Re: [expert] gnome-control center and pilot-link information
Josh, Check a couple of things. Do you have usb service starting at boot? In /etc/sysconfig/usb do you have an entry VISOR=yes In /etc/modules.conf do you have the following entries: alias usb-interface usb-uhci (this is for intel chipsets, ali has usb-ohci I think) post-install usb-uhci modprobe visor In /etc/fstab none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs noauto 0 0 These are just some setup type things to check. Also, my /dev/pilot is a symlink I had to add, my visor is using /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 so the command was ln -s /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 /dev/pilot Hope this helps you out. Jerry On Saturday 07 April 2001 18:49, Josh wrote: Dear Experts, I have a Handspring Visor Deluxe with the USB cradle that I use in Windows. To configure this device for linux, I was told to go into gnomecc and set it up. If I go in as a user, the device can't tell that it is connected to the computer when it is prompted for me to push the hotsync button. However, I figured that this was due to permissions and decided to try using gnomecc as root. When I click on the Pilot Link capplet, it launches another copy of the control-center and does not add the device as it did when using this as a user. I noticed that it is looking for /dev/pilot, however, I do not have this entry in my /dev directory. How do I add this, and if it is symply a symlink what do I link it to? I am running beta 3 of mandrake 8.0 with no updates (clean install) so far. Thank you, Josh www.thesauerfamily.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
could this be a problem with windows encrypted password? one set (win 9x default I believe) set to encrypt the password to linux and the other passing the password "in the clear" so to speak? - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:05 AM Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:11, Chris Slater-Walker wrote: The last time I looked (Samba 2.07) it was _not_ capable of functioning as a PDC or BDC for NT/Win2000 clients - only Win9x. I think you will find that this functionality is due for release with Samba 2.1 Chris Slater-Walker Err...2.0.7 will function well as a PDC for anything before w2k, with the exception that it can't replicate the database (so it can't act as a BDC or talk to any BDC's). Samba TNG and 2.2 can act as a PDC on win2k - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
Re: [expert] Mozilla update confusion
Benjamin, Just use the --replacepkgs argument when you're installing the newer package on your system, OR, even better uninstall the present package on your system before attempting to install the new package. you won't lose any config files from your home dir and you won't have to worry about any conflicts. it's probably best if you removed the first mozilla package and then installed the newer package. As to what might be confusing the machine, my guess would be, and I think it's very likely, that whoever put the package together didn't enter the correct header information which is now reporting the package to be the incorrect version. no biggie...just remove the old package and install the new one. Mark On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: Just take a look! Linux is confused by the Mozilla version numbers. It thinks that mozilla-0.8-2 (i.e. 0.8, the version released on Feb. 17) is newer than mozilla-0.8.1 (the version recently issued on March 26). How is this possible. A human being might slip but how could a machine? Any explanation? [root@sher07 mozilla]# rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm package mozilla-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk) is already installed package mozilla-mail-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk) is already installed package mozilla-psm-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk) is already installed [root@sher07 mozilla]# rm mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm rm: remove `mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm'? [root@sher07 mozilla]# rm mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm rm: remove `mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm'? This, however, does not explain the "runtime mismatch, so leaking context" error message you get when installing mozilla 0.8.1 because I had uninstalled version 0.8 and deleted all files (including hidden files and configuration files) before installing the new 0.8.1 version. Yours, Benjamin
Re: [expert] upgrade RPM 3 to 4 -- Where?
Ben, If you're running a 7.2 system I would really "strongly" advise against using any other version of RPM other then version 3. the one that you have on there already. you REALLY don't want the headaches of trying to convert from RPM version 3.x.x to version 4. There's an old saying my grandfather used to say to me when I was very small. "If it ain't broke boy...don't fix it!" Mandrake 8.0 uses version 4 of RPM if I've read the postings on the list here, but 7.2 does not and doesn't want anything to do with it. Mark On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: I recently heard that Red Hat has produced a special RPM package that will allow Red Hat 6 users (who use rpm version 3 to upgrade packages that are built with rpm version 4). If so, does anyone know where I can find this information, and, more importantly, what is the opinion of Mandrake experts on whether such an rpm "upgrade" would work in Mandrake 7.2? Thank you so much. Benjamin
Re: [expert] Mozilla update confusion
Dear Mark: Thanks so much. Did just that. Benjamin
RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha
No, sadly, all the windows password encryptions are working ok - as verified by just using ordinary shares. It's when I try to set up my linux box as the domain controller that the problem arises. As far as I can be certain it is fairly and squarely down to the gotcha whereby the nt4 net logon service fails to start owing to the domain already being controlled by the samba server. Since this is required to do the logon... In fairness it is mentioned in the gotchas text but I was hoping for a work around - or for someone to say that they were using their linux boxes as pdc with nt4 clients without any problems. Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates 07710 908817 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp Sent: 09 April 2001 11:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha could this be a problem with windows encrypted password? one set (win 9x default I believe) set to encrypt the password to linux and the other passing the password "in the clear" so to speak? - Original Message - From: "Daryl Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:05 AM Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as the pdc on my linux box. The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account of the net logon service failing to start. Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba v3 regards Daryl Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
Re: [expert] upgrade RPM 3 to 4 -- Where?
Dear Mark: I tend to agree with you. I thought I would raise the question, anyway. I guess for those who stay with LM72, they can still always install RH 6.2 versions of programs that are not available in LM72 rpm form. RH6.2 is still used everywhere, and for that reason Red Hat continues to produce rpms for RH6 as well as RH7. For instance, Mozilla 0.8.1 should appear soon on the Mozilla download page in both RH6 and RH7 rpm format. Thanks so much. Benjamin If you're running a 7.2 system I would really "strongly" advise against using any other version of RPM other then version 3. the one that you have on there already. you REALLY don't want the headaches of trying to convert from RPM version 3.x.x to version 4. There's an old saying my grandfather used to say to me when I was very small. "If it ain't broke boy...don't fix it!" -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages
On Sunday 08 April 2001 01:10 pm, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Tom and friends: I tried to rebuild the Cooker versions of Mozilla but still got the same error messages because of the rpm issue. By the way, my AMD K6-2 400 is really a i586, not an i686. There was a Never a problem here Ben (P3-450@600). Out of curiousity, I d/l'd the cooker mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk src rpm yesterday and rebuilt it on my 7.2, rpm-3.0.5-27mdk version, glibc-2.1.3-18.5mdk, 2.4.3 kernel system. This src rpm builds: mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm, mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm I installed (rpm -Uvh) only mozilla and mozilla-devel, no problems. 'Help, about Mozilla' shows: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-5tom i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010408 This is a very long compile, twice as long as a kernel, over an hour on my box. In compiles like this (or any for that matter), if you get errors, you should try again a few times. If you're getting errors in different places, it's most likely that your hardware is not up to the task. -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
Thinkpads have DISASTROUS problems with apm, but should otherwise be
fine, and I never heard of pcmcia circuitry overheating in them. AFAIK, pcs
run linux cooler than windoze anyhow. What way are you running it? If you
haven't done it, you'll need a kernel set up for the thinkpad, as there are some
thinkpad specific kernel options. There will probably be a (tiny)fan installed,
and it could be dodgy causing general overheating, which could trigger suspend
to save the cpu.
As a hardware guy, let me say that the main heat sensitive device is
the cpu. PCMCIA stuff uses no current worth talking of, hence no heat is
generated. Other heat sources are battery, and power supply. What should happen
is that the cpu is heat protected, and will slow down, then cut out in time to
save itself, which will mess up the interrupts on a thinkpad. If something else
is heating up big time, or showing heat sensitive behaviour, it's faulty :-{
Try a session running from mains psu with the battery removed (It can
get hot if overcharged) and the case open; it's usually enough to remove the
keyboard. Make sure it is on a flat surface (not a bed!) and that the fan
works. See how it lasts then. If there's a metal plate covering the cpu, paint
it black. That alone may cure it! Matt Black heatsinks run cooler than any other
colour, strange as it may seem.
Regards,
Declan Moriarty
Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius
A Slightly Serious(TM) Company
Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
On Sun, 08 Apr 2001, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 10:19 +, Declan Moriarty wrote:
I see the problems are with laptops. There could be issues with apm,
automagically messing everything up on a suspend. Is this out of the equation?
BTW, what laptops? Some have specific hassles which cause install problems.
Have you checked the linux laptop page for a link to your ones?
Yes I have checked that. My notebook is a IBM Thinkpad 760XD, yes I
know, it's a bit old, but I got it for 350 USD.
I realized now that the problem with the connection is a heat problem
in the notebook.
When I switch it on everything works fine. After 45 - 60 minutes I
get network errors. Then I switch it off for 30 minutes and after
that it works again for about 1 hour. The pcmcia card seems to get
too hot.
Well, I can live with that. I had TinyLinux installed from floppy but
now I have a full Slackware 7.1 on it with Emacs.
I just need the network connection to my desktop to sync files once a
day.
I could do the work all over again, putting a mini Slackware on a
small partition and get the Mandrake CDs 12 on the harddisk via my
desktop. But that is too much work for now...
wobo
Re: [expert] Network hassle
At 05:24 PM 4/7/2001 +, Declan Moriarty wrote: I'm trying to network 2 linux pcs here and have run into a spot of bother. One seems fine. The other will ping 127.0.0.1 OK, but sees the network as unreachable. What does it think its routing table should look like? The check with route -n to see the routing table, if there is a problem there, the initialization files /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should be checked to make sure they have the proper values. Anyhow, my problem: eth0 throws up an error and can't be initialised on bootup What is that error? This is what insmod throws up. [root@workhorse /etc]# insmod ne2k-pci /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol ei_open /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol ethdev_init /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol ei_interrupt /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol NS8390_init /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol ei_close [root@workhorse /etc]# Unresolved symbols are the harbinger of doom. Just kidding. They usually represent modules that are compiled for a different kernel. Check the kernel settings and remake and reinstall the modules at a minimum. The installation is 7.0 (Air), kernel 2.2.14-15. Curiously, the graphical "What have we got here?" programs say it's a 586 cpu, correctly identify it as a k6, and give it the generation number 6 (=i686). Clear as mud, isn't it? See the earlier thread on this list about i686 and i586 binaries for a "good" discussion of this problem on k6's. -- Matthew Micene Systems Development Manager Express Search Inc. www.ExpressSearch.com
[expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1
For those who have upgraded to KDE 2.1.1, what is the general verdict? Does it fix more than it breaks or does it break more than it fixes? Are any new problems well offset by improvements? I have all the rpms but am still hesitant to install them having read a number of posts here and there about problems. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] Network hassle
At 10:16 PM 4/7/2001 -0600, Ken Thompson wrote: portmap The portmapper program is a security tool which prevents theft of NIS (YP), NFS and other sensitive information via the portmapper. A portmapper manages RPC connections, which are used by protocols like NFS and NIS. The portmap package should be installed on any machine which acts as a server for protocols using RPC. This is not a security tool, it is a security hole. In fact, the portmapper is the tool by which NIS (YP), NFS and other sensitive information is freely handed around. It is unfortunately a necessary hole to open for RPC services. RPC services in general are weak in a security sense. NIS, NFS and the r commands (rsh, rwall, rwho) are all products of the "kinder, gentler" Internet back when you probably knew the desk phone number of anyone who could get to your machine. YP has some new security features (use of tcp wrappers, password munging on ypbind-utils requests) as does NFS (root squashing, uid mapping). If you are running these services and therefore running portmap, you need to understand the wealth of information that can be gleaned from these services. Only use them as inward facing services, and only on a network you have other security measures in place. -- Matthew Micene Systems Development Manager Express Search Inc. www.ExpressSearch.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages
Dear Tom: Thanks so much for your detailed comments on mozilla 0.8.1. I did in fact try to rebuild the Cooker src.rpm for mozilla 0.8.1 but failed and got the same error messages that I got from the Texstar rpm. And it showed in the performance: constant crashes and freezes. Please note my new post with the URL of the Red Hat 6 src.rpm of mozilla 0.8.1 (dated Apr 6, 01). I hope this RH6 src.rpm (which uses rpm 3, just like all Mandrake versions up until and including LM72) will yield perfect i586 mozilla files on my AMD K6-2 (which, we have been told, is really a i586) and without any error messages. Will let the list know if my rebuild is not perfect. Thanks again. Benjamin
[expert] 8.0 Beta diff files?
I have got an 8.0 beta from cheapbytes, as I can't practically download an iso with a 56k modem and an isp who cuts the line every 2 hours. Now cheapbytes only supplied beta 2, whereas i believe beta 3 is out. Is there a url for downloading differences, or is an iso the only option? How is a guy to have something to complain about? ;-) -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
Re: [expert] shell programming question
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm getting inconsistent results, though. When I run the following, the most common result is 5 but once in a while there is a 2, 3, or 4. I'm not sure what's going on. cnt=0 while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do echo -n `ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep $0 | wc -l` let cnt+=1 done echo I can test for the maximum value out of 20 tests and I'm sure it would get the job done. But at this point I'm curious why this happens. Any ideas? Thanks. Karl At 04:08 PM 4/8/2001 -0600, you wrote: This works from command line... # if [ `ps -efw | grep -v grep | grep rerf |wc -l` -eq 0 ] ; then echo 'yes' ; else echo 'no' ; fi In a shell script, make it more readable... if [ `ps -efw | grep -v grep | grep rerf |wc -l` -eq 0 ] then echo 'yes' # more statements here, etc. else echo 'no' fi - Also, analias command that I use *often* is # alias psg alias psg='ps -efw | grep -v grep | grep' This avoids seeing the 'grep' that is forked off by your request. Thanks...Dan
RE: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems
-Original Message- From: Ron Heron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems Your partitions may have changed. Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot. # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt shouldn't there be something after /mnt since /mnt is a dir like /mnt/disk or just some name, so long as you mkdir it in /mnt first? Brian EXT2-fs: 03:0a: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems. = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[expert] Problem starting Gnome with 8.0 Beta3
Title: Problem starting Gnome with 8.0 Beta3 I am have trouble starting gnome and other window managers with 8.0 Beta 3. I am start KDE fine. The following is the error message I get. /usr/X111R6/bin/xsetroot: unable to open display ' ' Must be run in a X Session Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: SESSION_MANAGER=local/dragon.nextpage.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1260 Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Any help much appreciated. Dallin
[expert] beta 3 or rc1
I was checking the sites this morning and noticed all the beta download sites have 8.0 beta 3 with the exception of one that has rc-1. I forget which site it was though. IS there a RC-1 release now, and if so what is different between rc-1 and beta? The rc-1 is dated I think 4/8/01 whereas beta 3 is I think 3/31/01. Brian D. Klar - CVE OTS WPAFB (937) 656-2861 (937) 973-3125 (pager)
[expert] Kmail small print fonts -- Solved!
Dear friends: I figured out an ad hoc solution to the problem of small fonts in Kmail. I discovered that when I tried to use my True Type fonts (added from Windows via DrakConf/Fonts), the print fonts were really tiny, barely legible and very hard on the eyes. Thanks to a tip from Andrew, I decided to experiment by using only Type 1 fonts. Bottom line: If you set the font in Kmail's Settings, Configuration, Appearance, Fonts to a font like Adobe helvetica, size 18, regular for "messaage body" (as opposed to "message list," etc.), you will get a moderately sized, readable printed text that is Adobe helvetica. The key seems to be to find the font that works with your printer in Kmail. The results is pleasant and acceptable. Hopefully, in the future Kmail will be able to do more, but this is good enough for the time being. However, when clicking on the printer icon in the toolbar, you should also change the letter size to "letter" (which is our American 11 x 8.5 standard size letter). KDE has set the default to A4, which is the European standard. Otherwise, you'll have serious problems printing, paper jamming, missing text, etc. OK, this is not quite as good as I would like it, but it is good enough for the time being. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [expert] shell programming question (along with script debug suggestion ;-)
Karl Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm getting inconsistent results,
though. When I run the following, the most common result is 5 but once in
a while there is a 2, 3, or 4. I'm not sure what's going on.
cnt=0
while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do
echo -n `ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep $0 | wc -l`
let cnt+=1
done
echo
I can test for the maximum value out of 20 tests and I'm sure it would get
the job done. But at this point I'm curious why this happens. Any ideas?
Well, the first thing folks should do when trying to figure out what's
going on in a script is capture the output and see whats going on.
So, for example, one might do this:
cnt=0
while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do
ps -ef | egrep -v grep /tmp/debug.1.$$
grep $0 /tmp/debug.1.$$ /tmp/debug.2.$$
echo -n `wc -l /tmp/debug.2.$$`
let cnt+=1
done
echo
Then go look at the files and see that sometimes you'll catch
things like:
emacs myscript
./myscript
vi myscript.info
(as a dumb, contrived example)
In my experience, you must be very careful when grepping for command
lines - especially if they are scripts being executed, since all too
often you also happen to have that script open in the editor!
One thing I've seen is where the script saves its pid in a file,
which you then check for. Of course, you have to watch for the
critical section there (and there is no easy way to get rid
of it entirely, so you just have to do the best you can) (Huh?
What critical section??? (or, What's a critical section?) see
below) Another option would be to make a server that would
keep track of things like that and answer the question
'Am I the only one of me wanting to run?' - but that seems like
a LOT of work Easiest thing is probably just to try to make
sure you don't run the script TOO often (10 times in a minute
would be a bad idea ;-), and do a 'simple' check like we've been
discussing.
Ok, so what's a critical section? Its a section of code (usually)
that, if you have 2 separate threads of control execute that code
at the same time the results can (might) be erroneous. One of the standard
examples is : static int i; crit_sec_oops(int addme){ int j; j=i + addme; i=j;}
Now, if thread 1 comes through, calculates the sum, then thread 2 comes
along, caluclates the sum AND manages to store it back into i, then
thread 1 continues along and stores ITS version into i - you just lost
thread 2's contribution to i.
Trying to have a file as your locking means leaves you a critical
section also, but we'll leave that as an exercise for the student ;-)
rc
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Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 14:01 +, Declan Moriarty wrote:
As a hardware guy, let me say that the main heat sensitive device is
the cpu. PCMCIA stuff uses no current worth talking of, hence no heat is
generated. Other heat sources are battery, and power supply. What should happen
is that the cpu is heat protected, and will slow down, then cut out in time to
save itself, which will mess up the interrupts on a thinkpad. If something else
is heating up big time, or showing heat sensitive behaviour, it's faulty :-{
Generally speaking you are quite right. But I don't get any errors in
any processes running, which would be the case if the cpu gets too
hot or shuts down. It's just that the networking gets shaky (first 10
or 20% packet loss then 40 to 90%). During that time all other
processes run without probs.
The other test I made was: When the time came and networking began to
falter I removed the pcmcia card and stuck it back in after one hour.
After that networking ran perfect for some time then faltered again.
I removed the card, let it cool down, stuck it in again and
everything worked again.
So you say the card may be faulty. Fine. I'll try to turn it in at
the shop but I have not much hope. THey'll put it into a notebook,
test it and say that it's the fault of my notebook...
Try a session running from mains psu with the battery removed (It can
get hot if overcharged) and the case open; it's usually enough to remove the
keyboard. Make sure it is on a flat surface (not a bed!) and that the fan
works. See how it lasts then. If there's a metal plate covering the cpu, paint
it black. That alone may cure it! Matt Black heatsinks run cooler than any other
colour, strange as it may seem.
As I said, everything else is running perfectly so it can't be the
cpu getting too hot.
Thanks anyway.
wobo
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Re: [expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1
Well, I have 2.1 and aa fonts but the problem is that adobe fonts are royally screwed in rendering. Windows fonts, and any fonts except Adobe MM fonts are real nice. The ONLY fixed font available/allowed is an adobe font which doesn't display well at all. Like all adobe fonts under QT 2.3.0 aa, the fonts shift upwards, screwing up alignment in any browser window that includes any fixed fonts mixed with other fonts. It also makes things like web searches a pain because the text entered in the query window, say in Google, is displaced upward and partially covered/hidden by the upper limit of the text entry box. If 2.1.1 somehow fixes this problem then that alone would be enough to get me to upgrade. On Monday 09 April 2001 10:55, s wrote: For me, I don't see much difference except for the aa fonts, which in itself worth it to me. But I don't see/experience too many bugs, but I didn't find too many before with 2.1. So if you're coming from 2.0 or 2.01, do it. If you're coming from 2.1, the only advantage is aa fonts (and its a little work to get them to show up). MO, -s On Monday 09 April 2001 03:05 am, you wrote: For those who have upgraded to KDE 2.1.1, what is the general verdict? Does it fix more than it breaks or does it break more than it fixes? Are any new problems well offset by improvements? I have all the rpms but am still hesitant to install them having read a number of posts here and there about problems. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. --
Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems
Your partitions may have changed. Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot. # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt EXT2-fs: 03:0a: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems. That's what I was already trying, to mount ANY linux partition at /mnt. In this case hda1 is /boot partition. The problem is that e2fsck reports unable to fsck partitions. --- To the other poster, /mnt is ok to use since it is a directory and I can only mount one thing there. If I created /mnt/boot and /mnt/home, then yes I can mount /boot and /home (or any directory) there. Thanks... Dan.
Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Daniel Woods wrote: Your partitions may have changed. Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot. # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt EXT2-fs: 03:0a: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems. That's what I was already trying, to mount ANY linux partition at /mnt. In this case hda1 is /boot partition. The problem is that e2fsck reports unable to fsck partitions. here's a possibility: i have noticed that if you change the partition table, trying to create filesystems on the newly added partitions doesn't tend to work. have you tried rebooting and then remaking the filesystem?
RE: [expert] beta 3 or rc1
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:07 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [expert] beta 3 or rc1 I was checking the sites this morning and noticed all the beta download sites have 8.0 beta 3 with the exception of one that has rc-1. I forget which site it was though. IS there a RC-1 release now, and if so what is different between rc-1 and beta? The rc-1 is dated I think 4/8/01 whereas beta 3 is I think 3/31/01. Yes RC-1 is now available, though not yet on all the mirrors. 2 that do have it are ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/i586/ and ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-iso/. As to any differences between it and the b3 most are bug fixes, as well as enhancements to the kernel the most notable of these being better support for VIA chipsets. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
Re[2]: [expert] shell programming question -- solved
To John, Dan, Rusty -- Thanks very much for your help. In this case,
directing output to an interim file gave different results than piping it
all in one line, but trying it led me to the answer. I believe the
ambiguity is in which of the processes involved in the pipes have been
started in time for ps to catch them.
The following seems to work reliably:
temp=`ps -ef`
if [ `echo $temp | grep -c $0` -gt 1 ] ; then
echo "another is running"
else
echo "all alone"
fi
thanks again
karl
At 10:02 AM 4/9/2001 -0700, you wrote:
Well, the first thing folks should do when trying to figure out what's
going on in a script is capture the output and see whats going on.
So, for example, one might do this:
cnt=0
while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do
ps -ef | egrep -v grep /tmp/debug.1.$$
grep $0 /tmp/debug.1.$$ /tmp/debug.2.$$
echo -n `wc -l /tmp/debug.2.$$`
let cnt+=1
done
echo
Then go look at the files and see that sometimes you'll catch
things like:
emacs myscript
./myscript
vi myscript.info
(as a dumb, contrived example)
In my experience, you must be very careful when grepping for command
lines - especially if they are scripts being executed, since all too
often you also happen to have that script open in the editor!
One thing I've seen is where the script saves its pid in a file,
which you then check for. Of course, you have to watch for the
critical section there (and there is no easy way to get rid
of it entirely, so you just have to do the best you can) (Huh?
What critical section??? (or, What's a critical section?) see
below) Another option would be to make a server that would
keep track of things like that and answer the question
'Am I the only one of me wanting to run?' - but that seems like
a LOT of work Easiest thing is probably just to try to make
sure you don't run the script TOO often (10 times in a minute
would be a bad idea ;-), and do a 'simple' check like we've been
discussing.
Ok, so what's a critical section? Its a section of code (usually)
that, if you have 2 separate threads of control execute that code
at the same time the results can (might) be erroneous. One of the standard
examples is : static int i; crit_sec_oops(int addme){ int j; j=i + addme;
i=j;}
Now, if thread 1 comes through, calculates the sum, then thread 2 comes
along, caluclates the sum AND manages to store it back into i, then
thread 1 continues along and stores ITS version into i - you just lost
thread 2's contribution to i.
Trying to have a file as your locking means leaves you a critical
section also, but we'll leave that as an exercise for the student ;-)
[expert] mdk7.2 kernel 2.4.3
Hi all Well I did it and for someone as new to linux as me I am positively beeming ;-) And for all the others who had a problem out there this is what you do 1 # cd /usr/src 2 #rm linux (it is a symbolic link pointing at the current kernel) 3 #tar -xvzf linux-blah.tar.gz 4 #mv linux linux-2.4.3 5 #ln -s linux-2.4.3 linux 6 #ln /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include (mandrake does not put this in by itself) 7 #cd linux 8 #make menuconfig (or what you prefer) 9 #make dep;make clean;make baImage;make modules;make modules_install 10 when this is finished prepare your /boot first 11 #cd /boot/ 12 #rm System.map 13 mv /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.4.3-1 14 #ln -s System.map-2.4.3-1 System.map 15 #mv /isr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.3-1 16 #ln -s vmlinuz-2.4.3-1 vmlinuz-2 17now comes the important part you must tell the kernel where you put the modules of the new kernel so edit /etc/modules.conf to look exactly and I mean EXACTLY like mine -- depfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.dep pcimapfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.pcimap isapnpmapfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.isapnpmap usbmapfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.usbmap path[boot]=keep lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/sound path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/2.4.3 path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/2.4. path[pcmcia]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/pcmcia path[video]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/video path[drivers]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers path[fs]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/fs path[net]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/net path[block]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/block path[parport]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/parport path[sound]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/sound path[ipv6]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/net/ipv6 alias char-major-108ppp_generic alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate alias net-pf-4 ipx pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc post-install snd-card-ens1371 modprobe snd-pcm-oss pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 /proc/parport/0/irq alias sound-slot-0 es1371 alias char-major-195 NVdriver - 18 now just configure lilo and point it at vmlinuz-2 (for some reason it must be a symbolic link) 19Reboot and ENJOY 20 Mail me and tell me how much you love me if this works ;-) Stefaans -- GIF87an
Re: [expert] Network hassle
On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Matthew Micene wrote: At 05:24 PM 4/7/2001 +, Declan Moriarty wrote: I'm trying to network 2 linux pcs here and have run into a spot of bother. One seems fine. The other will ping 127.0.0.1 OK, but sees the network as unreachable. What does it think its routing table should look like? The check with route -n to see the routing table, if there is a problem there, the initialization files /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should be checked to make sure they have the proper values. route -n shows only 127.0.0.1 . Presumably, all route with the non functioning device eth0 have been deleted. route -n on my better machine is there or thereabouts. /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 seem the same as the machine which actually works. I haven't rebuilt the kernel or modules yet, but I did the network bits of both machines, so I'd expect both or none to be right. The module ne2k-pci is 7264 bytes on each machine. Anyhow, my problem: eth0 throws up an error and can't be initialised on bootup What is that error? This proved to be a very good question! The kernel spits a line about bringinging up network: Delaying eth0 initialization.[Failed] A look in /var/log/boot.log gives me this date/time workhorse ifup: delaying eth0 initialisation date/time workhorse network: bringing up device eth0 failed on a shutdown, you're told a little more date/time workhorse ifdown eth0: unknown interface: No such device date/time workhorse ifdown eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found date/time workhorse shutting down interface eth0 succeded A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more date/time workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid parameter irq That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as that entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did not change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem. Unresolved symbols are the harbinger of doom. Just kidding. They usually represent modules that are compiled for a different kernel. Check the kernel settings and remake and reinstall the modules at a minimum. Will do. Somebody got going on this one and has raid arrays on bootup :-/. The same kids will cheer if you download the latest unstable kernel, go on irc and tell everyone there using it, and then suddenly get busy doing something else when you have to sort yourself out. The installation is 7.0 (Air), kernel 2.2.14-15. Curiously, the graphical "What have we got here?" programs say it's a 586 cpu, correctly identify it as a k6, and give it the generation number 6 (=i686). Clear as mud, isn't it? See the earlier thread on this list about i686 and i586 binaries for a "good" discussion of this problem on k6's. I read a lot of it - it was a big issue for me; I've 2 k6/2 pcs here, and they're not going away for a long time. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
Re: [expert] Network hassle still.
Further to the other post. I went to build a kernel again, and had to install bin86, gcc, the kernel source, headers, ncurses-devel, ncurses. I now vaguely recall a reinstall on this m/c with the mandrake cd acting up somewhat :-/. It was still left looking for some stupid dependency thing called libbfd.2.9.5.0.16.so, which I couldn't find. Built the kernel anyhow from scratch screwed up first time over the missing bin86 which rpm never mentioned was needed, BTW, and I forgot the make modules_install second time :-(. Sorted that, and I still have EXACTLY the same error message :-(. Before you ask, I renamed the /lib/modules/2.2.14 directory each time so I wouldn't have new modules landing on old ones. I think I know how to do a kernel. make xconfig then (MUCH later) make dep; make clean; male all; make modules; make modules_install; make bzImage Judging by file dates in the /boot directory, it all went in except the module info. vmlinuz-2.2.14-15, System.Map are new. module-info is still from last August. Is this important? Have I screwed up again, or is it a hardware thing? The hardware approach would be to swap network cards, bring over the working kernel, which would run the machine, and generally try to transfer the fault some way. I could probably swap linux disks, as they each have a linux disk, and boot to a consoile. But I don't want to take these computers apart if I don't have to. BTW, is there a magic with rpm to find out what package on the cd supplies such a file? There's umpteen rpms there, and without querying each of them individually It would be nice to let something else do the work. --Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
[expert] Samba Printing MDK8.0b2
Hi, I installed the second beta of Mandrake 8.0 and I am currently facing the problem of print spool files that are not removed from the spool area. Printing is configured with cups but I don't think that has anything to do with my problem. The spool files are created with mode 0700, de mode of the spool directory is 1777 (as it is per default). Another anoying thing is that users can't use the windows print-spooler to manage jobs (it seems they can't remove queued jobs - even the ones they own themselves)... Has anyone noticed this problem and what about a possible workaround? Thanks, Lieven
Re: [expert] Network hassle
Declan Moriarty wrote: A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more date/time workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid parameter irq That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as that entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did not change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem. Declan, this may or may not help, but I remember reading that on some NE2000 cards the IRQ is set via software. Evidently, the interface with the soft IRQ has to be run in DOS to configure the card. I remember reading that there isn't a Linux soft IRQ interface for a majority of the NE2000 cards. So, if your Linux box is complaining about an invalid IRQ, you may need to use a DOS machine to change the NE2000 IRQ to something that will not conflict with your Linux box and then try and bring the card back up under Linux with the new soft IRQ set. Just my two cents -- David C. Rankin Nacogdoches, Texas
Re: [expert] Network hassle
SNIP A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more date/time workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid parameter irq That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as that entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did not change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem. Watch your boot up screen (The one that shows system stuff before the operating system is loaded) below where it tells you about memory and stuff is a list of PCI devices and their assigned resources. My Realtek stuff is usually on IRQ 11 if your's has changed you may have to use your DOS configuration tools to change it back to PnP or set the IRQ to an unused IRQ.. If your cards talk with each other using the Realtek diagnostic disk, good, but, there are no system resources loaded at this time. Try removing the card, ALL reference to the card and re-boot. Then shutdown and place the card in a different PCI slot and boot the system. Then try to configure it again. I have had Video and Sound cards interfere with NIC cards, look at the IRQ and I/O resources for them also. Some of my Realtek cards wanted IRQ 5 and some 3Com stuff wants IRQ 3 both of which will interfere with other hardware. From what I can see of your problem, I'm pretty sure it's an IRQ conflict and they can be hard to trouble shoot. Good Luck, -- Ken Thompson Electrocom Computer Services Payette, Idaho 83661 (208) 642-11701 Web: http://www.nwaa.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HAM: WA7SYR - Member QCWA
Re: [expert] Network hassle
Hi Declan, I had this problem and found that there are 2 versions of the realtek card. The responses that you are getting are wholly consistent with the module not loading. The ne2k-pci module is for the realtek 8029 card (an older card). Try changing the module to the 8139 - that worked for me. hth Mike - Original Message - From: "Declan Moriarty" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Network hassle On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Matthew Micene wrote: At 05:24 PM 4/7/2001 +, Declan Moriarty wrote: I'm trying to network 2 linux pcs here and have run into a spot of bother. One seems fine. The other will ping 127.0.0.1 OK, but sees the network as unreachable. What does it think its routing table should look like? The check with route -n to see the routing table, if there is a problem there, the initialization files /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should be checked to make sure they have the proper values. route -n shows only 127.0.0.1 . Presumably, all route with the non functioning device eth0 have been deleted. route -n on my better machine is there or thereabouts. /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 seem the same as the machine which actually works. I haven't rebuilt the kernel or modules yet, but I did the network bits of both machines, so I'd expect both or none to be right. The module ne2k-pci is 7264 bytes on each machine. Anyhow, my problem: eth0 throws up an error and can't be initialised on bootup What is that error? This proved to be a very good question! The kernel spits a line about bringinging up network: Delaying eth0 initialization.[Failed] A look in /var/log/boot.log gives me this date/time workhorse ifup: delaying eth0 initialisation date/time workhorse network: bringing up device eth0 failed on a shutdown, you're told a little more date/time workhorse ifdown eth0: unknown interface: No such device date/time workhorse ifdown eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found date/time workhorse shutting down interface eth0 succeded A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more date/time workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid parameter irq That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as that entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did not change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem. Unresolved symbols are the harbinger of doom. Just kidding. They usually represent modules that are compiled for a different kernel. Check the kernel settings and remake and reinstall the modules at a minimum. Will do. Somebody got going on this one and has raid arrays on bootup :-/. The same kids will cheer if you download the latest unstable kernel, go on irc and tell everyone there using it, and then suddenly get busy doing something else when you have to sort yourself out. The installation is 7.0 (Air), kernel 2.2.14-15. Curiously, the graphical "What have we got here?" programs say it's a 586 cpu, correctly identify it as a k6, and give it the generation number 6 (=i686). Clear as mud, isn't it? See the earlier thread on this list about i686 and i586 binaries for a "good" discussion of this problem on k6's. I read a lot of it - it was a big issue for me; I've 2 k6/2 pcs here, and they're not going away for a long time. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.
Re: [expert] Network hassle
If your NE2000 cards are PCI (and it appears to be so, from the driver that is loading), then the below advice is not correct. Question: Do you have your BIOS set to NOT have a PnP OS? This is what you want, so that the BIOS itself will take care of assigning IRQ's and I/O addresses, rather than waiting for the OS to do it. Another question: What chipset are these cards using? I know there are at least two Realtek "native" drivers, for the 8019 chipset and the 8139 chipset. Unless you know for sure that they want the ne2k-pci driver, you might want to try a different module: modprobe rtl8019 as an example. Since I am jumping into the middle of this thread, I have probably missed something, like the possibility that you have already done the things I am suggesting... Hope this helps, Dave On Monday 09 April 2001 16:37, thus spake David Rankin: Declan Moriarty wrote: A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more date/time workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid parameter irq That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as that entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did not change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem. Declan, this may or may not help, but I remember reading that on some NE2000 cards the IRQ is set via software. Evidently, the interface with the soft IRQ has to be run in DOS to configure the card. I remember reading that there isn't a Linux soft IRQ interface for a majority of the NE2000 cards. So, if your Linux box is complaining about an invalid IRQ, you may need to use a DOS machine to change the NE2000 IRQ to something that will not conflict with your Linux box and then try and bring the card back up under Linux with the new soft IRQ set. Just my two cents -- David C. Rankin Nacogdoches, Texas -- "...[W]e preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Cor 1:23-24)
Re: [expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1
Well, can't help you too much there. I didn't try to get aa fonts working with 2.1 and when I went to test my adobe fonts for you, I don't seem to have any listed for the file manager or web browser. So I don't know if that's normal or mine is just missing (oops, a bug?), but I didn't use them anyway. I do have a couple of windows fonts that I am using presently that look good. Maybe someone else will chime in with more helpful info. I found an article on that issue (limited fixed fonts) back when I was troubleshooting mine, but I didn't bookmard it. I had been searching google for linux aa fonts when I ran across it. -s On Monday 09 April 2001 12:57 pm, you wrote: Well, I have 2.1 and aa fonts but the problem is that adobe fonts are royally screwed in rendering. Windows fonts, and any fonts except Adobe MM fonts are real nice. The ONLY fixed font available/allowed is an adobe font which doesn't display well at all. Like all adobe fonts under QT 2.3.0 aa, the fonts shift upwards, screwing up alignment in any browser window that includes any fixed fonts mixed with other fonts. It also makes things like web searches a pain because the text entered in the query window, say in Google, is displaced upward and partially covered/hidden by the upper limit of the text entry box. If 2.1.1 somehow fixes this problem then that alone would be enough to get me to upgrade.
Re: [expert] Install/Uninstall Mozilla source tarball
Dear friends: Question: If I build the Mozilla tarball from the source tarball at mozilla, can I then uninstall it? Or if I want to upgrade later, can I do that? How do you UNINSTALL a mozilla tarball that you built from the source tarball, gunzip or bzip file? Thank you so much. Benjamin
Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages
Benjamin Sher wrote: to rebuild the Cooker src.rpm for mozilla 0.8.1 but failed and got the same error messages that I got from the Texstar rpm. And it showed in the performance: constant crashes and freezes. By any chance are you overclocking your CPU? If yes, try backing it down one notch. Also, have you recently added RAM? It could be bad and/or be heat related or it could have recently gone bad. If you recompile the kernel 2 or 3 times (just to exercise the memory and CPU--don't install it), do you ever get any errors? -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mrball.net | Sometimes you get experience. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --unknown origin |
Re: [expert] Install/Uninstall Mozilla source tarball
Benjamin Sher wrote: How do you UNINSTALL a mozilla tarball that you built from the source tarball, gunzip or bzip file? If you're lucky, there's a make uninstall option in the Makefile. It doesn't seem to be too prevalent, but sometimes it's there. Otherwise, just know where all the files are getting installed and delete them when you want to uninstall it. Sorry, not very user friendly, but it does encourage you to learn how your system works. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mrball.net | Sometimes you get experience. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --unknown origin |
[expert] converting to mutt
On Mon Apr 09, 2001 at 08:29:48PM -0700, CB wrote: All your messages appear as signed for me. Using mutt, of course :) I'm dreadfully tired of using Netscape for email, but it works so well I've gotten lazy. Has anybody documented the steps for converting to mutt? It needs to include documentation of fetchmail and procmail and anything else required (as I understand from ME, that's it). While not entirely appropriate to this list (cc'd to expert, please reply on there if you are also on the list), I can tell you that mutt is pretty simple. Don't know about converting from netscape (never used it), but if you can export your address book and read a ~/.muttrc file, you're set. I can send my mutt config files for anyone interested (properly sanitized, of course), but they work very well for me and keeps your homedir a little more sane by using multiple files in a ~/.mutt directory instead of cramming everything into one ~/.muttrc file. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com Current Linux kernel 2.4.3-10mdk uptime: 23 hours 53 minutes. PGP signature
Re: [expert] Install/Uninstall Mozilla source tarball
Dear Todd: Thanks so much for your two messages. Really appreciate it. Benjamin
Re: [expert] converting to mutt
Vincent Danen wrote: is pretty simple. Don't know about converting from netscape (never used it), but if you can export your address book and read a ~/.muttrc ME said that it was the same mbox format as netscape, but just delete any index files. I looked around a bit (never occurred to me until tonight to look for mutt.org :-/ ) and found an online .muttrc generator. I'm gonna be testing it soon. Gonna have to build the filtering myself, but can probably figure it out. One thing: mutt seems to be capable of doing pop now. I thought that was what fetchmail was for? Or it might be that it just lets you configure what you want mutt to tell fetchmail to do. I'll know more after messing with it some. -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mrball.net | Sometimes you get experience. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --unknown origin |
[expert] Dual processor MB ?
Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: Re[2]: [expert] renaming multiple files
On Monday 09 April 2001 10:46 am, Rusty Carruth wrote: Dave Horsfall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Kelley Terry wrote: Is there a way to rename multiple files all of the format q_tif.bz2 to q.tif.bz2 where the # represent digits. In other words I need to change the underscore "_" character to a dot "." for all the file names in a directory. If there is a way to do this w/o a shell script it would be great but I can't find one. Use the following script; it emulates the "=" wildcard of CP/M systems. Usage would be (in your case) "mved q=_tif.bz2 q=.tif.bz2". Use the "-n" switch for test only - no action. Hack for your shell where necessary. cool, I'll have to digest that one and see if it ends up making it into my list of scripts... Anyway, what I usually do is the dumb: me@mine for i in q_tif.bz2 ; do ni=`echo $i | sed 's/_tif.bz2//'` # set ni to the base part I want mv $i $ni.tif.bz2 # do the move done That way I can season the action to taste, depending upon what exactly I wanted to do. (Since you can get REALLY creative there when you set $ni. Of course: (1) if you are not using bash then you'll have to change things a bit; and (2) if you are not lucky enough to be changing the destination name to something that has a '$'-eval delimiter as its first char then you'll have to say something like: mv $i "$ni"foo.boo.yoohoo but, you knew that, right? ;-) And, yes, I know the problem has now been solved at least 3 different ways - isn't that (one of the) point(s) of unix?;-) rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W I didn't know I would generate so much response to this. Again thanks to those who responded. I did learn something new especially with some of the scripts and am saving the responses. What I simply did was: rename _ . * which changes all underscores to dots for all files in the pwd. This could be filtered for specific files or specific occurrences in the files making it very useful. But as you mentioned there are many ways to do it. -- "It said uses Windows 95 or better, so I loaded Linux!" "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" Kelley Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] converting to mutt
On Mon Apr 09, 2001 at 09:29:18PM -0700, CB wrote: is pretty simple. Don't know about converting from netscape (never used it), but if you can export your address book and read a ~/.muttrc ME said that it was the same mbox format as netscape, but just delete any index files. I looked around a bit (never occurred to me until No clue... I actually use qmail's Maildir format with mutt... =) tonight to look for mutt.org :-/ ) and found an online .muttrc generator. I'm gonna be testing it soon. Gonna have to build the filtering myself, but can probably figure it out. One thing: mutt seems to be capable of doing pop now. I thought that was what fetchmail was for? Or it might be that it just lets you configure what you want mutt to tell fetchmail to do. I'll know more after messing with it some. mutt.org is a good site. And yeah, mutt can do pop, but using fetchmail is better I think because then you can use procmail. I'm not sure if mutt works the same as fetchmail in that it sends to the local MTA, which can pipe it thru procmail. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I currently use fetchmail for... download, send to qmail, qmail sends to procmail, procmail puts it in my Maildir or various mailboxes (depending on the rule). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com Current Linux kernel 2.4.3-10mdk uptime: 1 day 1 hour 40 minutes. PGP signature
[expert] RH 6 src.rpm for Mozilla 0.8.1 -- URL!
Dear friends: If you would like to download the Red Hat 6 src.rpm file for the recent Mozilla 0.8.1 of March 26 (compatible with LM72), go to: http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software/RH6/SRPMS/ The exact name of the file is: mozilla-0.8.1-1.src.rpm 06-Apr-2001 02:10 29.9M This will allow you to rebuild the src.rpm as your own full suite of mozilla files (mozilla, mozilla-psm, mozilla-mail, mozilla-developer). If you have an AMD K6-2 as I do, you will be able to rebuild the RH file as i586 files. I have been told that performance should dramatically improve and you should (I hope) have no error messages. I mention this partly because, in spite of assurance to the contrary, the Texstar rpm version of mozilla 0.8.1 (rebuilt from the Cooker directory, which uses rpm version 4) yielded the error messages: runtime mismatch, so leaking context. I am not a programmer, just an ordinary user, but when I tried to use the Texstar mozilla 0.8.1, it repeatedly crashed or froze. I was very unhappy and went right back to mozilla 0.8 (also available on the Texstar site -- and the 0.8 version worked very well). You might wish to bookmark the Red Hat site for future versions of Mozilla, especially the long-awaited upcoming recommended beta version .9 and, then, of course, version 1.0. Yours, Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems
Your partitions may have changed. Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot. # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt EXT2-fs: 03:0a: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems. = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[expert] RH6 Mozilla src.rpm fails
Dear friends: I must sadly report that my attempt to rebuild the RH6 src.rpm of mozilla 0.8.1 has failed. Lots of error messages have caused the rebuilding to abort. My apologies. Perhaps you might have better luck on your systems. Maybe it has something to do with my AMD K6-2 (really a i586, NOT an i686) or maybe some hidden incompatibility between the RH6 src.rpm and LM7.2 . Yours, Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
