[expert] device access for users
I found some strange things after I installed 8.0 If I check permissions for audio, they are like this: lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 6 May 22 19:16 /dev/audio -> audio0 crw---1 lsarang audio 14, 4 Apr 14 07:06 /dev/audio0 Is this really correct? From how I understand things, this means that only lsarang (i.e. me) will be able to access audio.. any other user (via NIS) will not be able to access audio. incidently, lsarang is the only user I created.. but all others can login via NIS. Shouldn't the above be: lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 6 May 22 19:16 /dev/audio -> audio0 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 4 Apr 14 07:06 /dev/audio0 with all users in the group audio? Or better yet, all users in group "users" and "users" being part of audio. The default way of group management of LM8.0 is that it if I create a user lsarang, then another group lsarang will be created and the lsarang user belongs to lsarang group. This shouldn't happen IMHO. Instead any user created should be of the group users and users should be included in audio, floppy, cdrom etc so that any new user gets access to those things. Am I missing something here? thanks! sarang PS : sorry for sending this again.. nobody replied in the first go :( -- - Sarang Lakare http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~lsarang http://www.linux.org
Re: Re[2]: [expert] huge memory usage!
> Previously you said: > > 3:31pm up 5 days, 2:09, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > 54 processes: 53 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped > CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle > CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle > Mem: 899952K av, 556948K used, 343004K free, 0K shrd, 170032K > buff Swap: 1791208K av, 118408K used, 1672800K free > 265936K cached > > > Now, I'm confused. Where do you see 15mb or so of memory used? I was adding up the SIZE field of the processes shown by top. > 3:31pm up 5 days, 2:09, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > 54 processes: 53 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped > CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle > CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle > Mem: 899,952K av, 556,948K used, 343,004K free, 0K shrd, > 170,032K buff Swap: 1,791,208K av, 118,408K used, 1,672,800K free > 265,936K cached > > So I see 1/2 gig used. thats what I meant.. this thing shows 1/2 gig (actually its 126 MB aftre removing buff and cache) but the total of processes as seen in top is just around 15MB. > > Also, beware - top shows 2 numbers - total RAM in use currently, > AND total actual size of the program. Unfortunately top does > NOT appear to allow you to sort on that 2nd number... > > Hmm. So, I added up all the numbers under top, and got 31,088 kbytes. > Now you've got me wondering. What does ps -axl say? i'll try that.. unfortunately I rebooted the machine.. so lemme try it again sarang > > rc > > > Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE > FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 > Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 > ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W -- - Sarang Lakare http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~lsarang http://www.linux.org
Re: [expert] huge memory usage!
> Old data. Since you have suge a huge amount of memory, stuff hardly gets > deleted. Stuff includes things like old images, sound or what not else. but shouldn't this non-deleted stuff be part of cache/buffer? then in teh -/+ buffer/cache, the memory used shown should be that of the currently running processes right? > > I don't agree.. if the process was swapped out fine, but after it > > finished, the swap should become empty again. I think tis a problem with > > 2.4.x > > Well, why should it become empty? If there's still enough room in > Swap/RAM, what good would it be to drop the memory? I mean, suppose you You are right.. infact I knew this.. I was prolly out of my mind when I asked this Q ;) Actually what I meant probably was that when a process is done, shouldnt' the memory associated with the process become part of cache/buffer? and if so, then teh -/+ buff/chache shld show the difference right? > > I have a 1.5GB system.. and swap was supposed to be double that right? > > No. This was in 'ancient' times. Nowadays this is no more true. With 1.5 > GB of RAM, you're fine with 256 MB of SWAP, so that you have some prior > notice that you're system is crowded. I mean, when you start to swap, > you'll notice that you have a problem because all your ram is full. hmm.. thats news to me! > Don't know for sure, but in Cooker there's a -enterprise kernel. Only this > -enterprise kernel supports huge amounts of memory like you've got. Can anybody from Mandrake throw any light on this? LM 7.2 standard could see 1.5GB memory.. If I really do need an enterprise kernel, then what's the limit to the standard kernel? what's the diff between the standard adn the ent. kernel? where is all this documented? thanks for all your help. sarang -- - Sarang Lakare http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~lsarang http://www.linux.org
Re: [expert] huge memory usage!
> You are indeed missing something--look at the amount used for buffers and > cache. This can be freed by the system when a program issues a malloc() > call. It can be grabbed again from the free memory pool when the program > releases it and turned to the same purpose, making your machine run faster. Yes.. agreed.. I know it.. but look at this : > > [root@vv17 /root]# free > > total used free sharedbuffers cached > > Mem:899952 556784 343168 0 170032 265936 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 120816 779136 > > Swap: 1791208 1184081672800 > > [root@vv17 /root]# This is how I interpret it : total used = 556MB buffers = 170MB cached = 256MB therefore, buff+chached 426MB so after removing buff and cached we get = 556 - 426 = 130MB i.e the current processes are using 130MB. Now I don't have anything running on the machine right now.. so whatever memory was used by older processes should now be part of buffer and cache right? Then where does this extra memory usage come from? When I reboot the machine, the usaage is just 35MB > > In Windows, you are taught to reboot when your resource meter drops. In > linux, unused memory is considered WASTED memory. The system, the kernel, > WILL employ it for something beneficial if at all possible. I know this and I am not comparing with windows.. Let me tell you that I have never ever seriously used windows.. played with it a little bit when 95 came out, but coding was mostly in dos in those days.. then IRIX and for the past 1&1/2 years, full time linux :) I am keeping the rest of the mail for reference. thanks! sarang > > > 3:31pm up 5 days, 2:09, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > 54 processes: 53 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped > > CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle > > CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle > > Mem: 899952K av, 556948K used, 343004K free, 0K shrd, 170032K > > buff Swap: 1791208K av, 118408K used, 1672800K free > > 265936K cached > > > > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > > 1081 squid 14 0 3952 2724 2076 S 0.0 0.3 2:37 squid > > 13363 root 9 0 1692 1588 1312 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 sshd > > 13366 root 15 0 1584 1584 1156 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 bash > > 13403 root 19 0 1204 1204 972 R 0.1 0.1 0:00 top > > 13354 postfix9 0 804 804 684 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 pickup > > 11206 sarang 8 0 1084 528 528 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 csh > > 1154 root 9 0 2512 460 228 S 0.0 0.0 0:03 miniserv.pl > > 1005 postfix9 0 488 416 416 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 qmgr > > 821 root 9 0 376 316 316 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.mountd > > 636 rpc9 0 264 240 240 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 portmap > > 11204 root 9 0 564 216 216 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 sshd > > 763 root 9 0 368 180 156 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 sshd > > 648 root 9 0 232 176 176 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 syslogd > > 1079 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld > > 1134 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 mysqld > > 1135 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld > > 1153 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld > > 11508 sarang 9 0 348 132 132 S 0.0 0.0 0:06 xosview > > 686 root 9 0 184 128 128 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 ypbind > > 1001 root 9 0 208 12496 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 master > > 1036 root 10 0 172 11296 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 crond > > 1 root 9 0 120 7676 S 0.0 0.0 0:07 init > > 1108 xfs9 0 2128 5252 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 xfs > > 782 root 9 0 200 20 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 xinetd > > 1047 root 9 0 1848 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 safe_mysqld > > 657 root 9 0 6324 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 klogd > > 672 rpcuser9 0 1164 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.statd > > 685 root 9 0844 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 ypbind > > 812 root 9 0724 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.rquotad > > 1080 root 9 0 1884 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 squid > > 1173 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > > 1174 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > > 1175 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > > 1176 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > > 1177 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > > 1178 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > > 2 root 8 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 keventd > > 3 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:25 kswapd > > 4 root 9 0
[expert] Memory detection problem
Sorry for asking this again.. but I really need a solution. Please help. I have a 1.5GB machine and LM8.0 does not detect it. Even thats ok.. my bigger problem is that I cannot tell the kernel that I ahve 1.5GB. I have attached my lilo.conf. Please let me know how I can get the machine to use all of 1.5GB ram. thanks a lot sarang [root@vx17 /root]# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:899952 76832 823120 0 28280 21920 -/+ buffers/cache: 26632 873320 Swap: 1791208 01791208 [root@vx17 /root]# cat /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/sda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message-graphic menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux root=/dev/sda2 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append="mem=1500M quiet" vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-up root=/dev/sda2 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="mem=1500M" read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/sda2 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=" failsafe mem=1500M)" read-only other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe [root@vx17 /root]# -- - Sarang Lakare http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~lsarang http://www.linux.org
Re: [expert] problem with internal net
ok,i ran tcpdump. nothing happened util I tried to ping from another machine in the internal net. then I got a ton of traffic, alot of it from another server on the at&t network. I will attach the file I generated as a result,okay see the file below(still learning pine!!) 20:38:26.402134 ha1.svc1.il.home.com.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: xid:0x6270 Y:10.93.209.148 [|bootp] 20:38:26.492134 ha1.svc1.il.home.com.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: xid:0x6270 Y:10.93.209.148 [|bootp] 20:38:27.582134 C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026 > proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain: 44624+ (40) 20:38:27.592134 proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain > C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026: 44624 1/2/2 (150) 20:38:27.682134 C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026 > proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain: 44625+ (44) 20:38:27.692134 proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain > C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026: 44625 NXDomain 0/1/0 (106) 20:38:27.702134 C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026 > proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain: 44626+ (43) 20:38:27.722134 proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain > C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026: 44626 1/2/2 (159) 20:38:29.802134 arp who-has c1638680-a.laporte1.in.home.com tell 24.182.167.129 20:38:29.812134 C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026 > proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain: 44627+ (45) 20:38:29.822134 proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain > C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026: 44627 1/2/2 (166) 20:38:29.832134 C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026 > proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain: 44628+ (45) 20:38:29.842134 proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain > C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026: 44628 NXDomain 0/1/0 (106) 20:38:32.582134 arp who-has 24.179.224.1 tell C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com 20:38:32.582134 C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026 > proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain: 44629+ (43) 20:38:32.582134 arp reply 24.179.224.1 is-at 0:d0:ba:a8:56:70 20:38:32.602134 proxy1.grffth1.in.home.com.domain > C454783-C.laporte1.in.home.com.1026: 44629 NXDomain 0/1/0 (104) 20:38:32.772134 arp who-has c1638680-a.laporte1.in.home.com tell 24.182.167.129 20:38:38.692134 ha1.svc1.il.home.com.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: xid:0xc9ce I haven't a clue as to what this means as it goes way beyond my networking abilities. I did notice the arp stuff, but could that be thier dhcp server looking to fill requests? Also, I still need to find out why I get those error messages from the net interface(they are very annoying) this is what they look like: eth1: tx interrupt but no status I get this over and over again when someone is surfing on the other computers. tried reconfiguring the net cards for different io and irqs, no change. Tried changing eth1 for eth0 and no change, so its not in the cards, has to be in the driver or the kernel. I really am lost on this one and need allthe help I can get! :-) thanks again Dennis On Sat, 26 May 2001, Pierre Fortin wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I have an older 486 w/6megs(max for this machine) running mandrake 6.0. > > This machine is my gateway/firewall to the internet. It always is able to > > access the net for its own,but, If I want the other machines to be able to > > see the internet I have to ping one of them from the 486. After this all > > the machines on the in house net have normal access. So basically I have > > to log in and ping the internal net on the 486 every time I lose power or > > reboot. Also I get error messages on eth1, it says that eth1 generated a > > tx interupt with no status. I have intel etherexpress 16 net cards > > installed. Doesn't make any difference which one is used as eth1, still get > > that error message repeatedly when someone is on the internet on the other > > machines,this also screws up my screen on the 486 forcing me to hit return > > or have the app I'm running rescroll its screen so I can get rid of those > > error messages. At the least I would like to send those error messages to > > /dev/null and also not have to ping to activate the interal net. > > Any ideas? > > > > thanks Dennis > > More info required... From your comments so far, it sounds like attempts to > get through your gateway fail... assuming the gateway is specified in all > hosts, you are unable to ping the gateway after it reboots... but pinging from > the 486 lets the other hosts figure out where the gateway is. > > Can you run tcpdump, ethereal or other sniffer on the 486..? If so, does the > 486 see a broadcast ARP request packet** when you try to ping the 486 from > another host? If so, does the 486 send an ARP reply packet? If so, does the > pinging host get the reply? > > If all the above works, does the pinging host's ping packet now appear at the > 486? Note that after all this, if every answer is 'yes', then we'll have to dig > deeper. > > **Are you using a hub or switch? If a switch, the broadcast ARP request might > not be flooded to all ports. > > Pierre >
[newbie] Respawning error
I jus tried to boot my Mandrake 8 system and I get the following error: INIT: ID "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes INIT: ID "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes INIT: ID "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes INIT: ID "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes INIT: ID "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes INIT: ID "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes This is then followed by: autologin(pam_unix)[1009] session opened for username by (uid = 0) pam_console[1009] could not open lock file /var/lock/console/username, disallowing console access autologin(pam_unix) session closed for user username by (uid = 0) This continues through about 30 repetitions and returns to the respawning error and starts again. I cannot get into my system. How can I fix this? Thanks, Dennis in Waco
Re: [expert] Can any coders here make a simple c proggy build?
Praedor, It looks like the program used by make (codonw) is not really executable. It is a binary file, and its permissions are set to execute properly, but on my Mandrake 7.2 system I still can't even execute the file manually. Without a functioning codonw file, make is unable to create the links with other files, and set up the application. Here's the specific problem I saw: the setup file codonWinstall works fine, in that it is able to create a Makefile for make to use in compiling the programs. But as make reads through the Makefile, it is told to execute the program codonw (as noted above), and it is unable to do so. When I tried a simple ./codonw, I got an error that the file cannot be executed. I am not a C programmer, so I didn't look deeply into the actual *.c and *.h files. Unless a C coder can figure out the underlying problem, I would suggest contacting the author. Dave On Wednesday 30 May 2001 14:38, thus spake Praedor Tempus: > I have downloaded the source for a simple c program that I wish to use > in my scientific research. Unfortunately, it simply will not build on > my system (Mandrake 8.0), and I am not a coder so I have no idea why. > > The file is small (tar.Z) at ~700k. Could someone with a clue take a > look at it and try to determine why it wont build and what must be done > to make it build? > > It contains a simple build script called codonWinstall which guides you > through a short series of questions. I can either send the file > directly to you as an attachment OR you can get it from: > http://www.molbiol.ox.ac.uk/cu/culong.html > > Someone? Anyone? I could REALLY use this app. -- "Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money." - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C.
[expert] pcmcia hangs mandrake 8 on dell i8000 laptop
my dell 8000 laptop running mandrake 8.0 hangs whenever i try to boot with a pcmcia card in the slot, or insert a pcmcia card into the slot while it is running. the console reports that it is inserting the appropriate module for the card i have inserted (typically a xircom realport 2, but i have also tried a 3com 3c574 and an smc wireless ethernet card), but the machine hangs solid immediately after that, and the only way to recover it is to do a hard power off. this has happened so far with every type of pcmcia card i have tried. the xircom and the 3com worked fine with my previous installation of redhat 7.0, with a custom compiled pcmcia-cs-3.1.24. -- Andrew Cattau[EMAIL PROTECTED] In most instances, all an argument proves is that two people are present
Re: Fwd: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0
I could but I do not want to :-) First of all it's the OS that must adapt itself to my tastes and not the reverse. And neither konsole nor xterm allows for transparency. OK, it's not a very technical reason to abandon a distro but I don't like the behaviour. I've been using RedHat for some years and Conectiva (a brazilian distro) and neither had such a behaviour. I was using them with X 3.3.6 though. BTW which language did you try to set up? All my best. Em Qua 30 Mai 2001 09:52, you wrote: > I was able to reproduce it, but I have no idea why it happens. Can't you > just use a terminal that it works in? > > -- Stephen > > On Wednesday 30 May 2001 05:50 am, IH8Spammers wrote: > > Doesn't anybody know? I am almost giving up Mandrake because of that > > annoying behaviour :-( > > > > -- Mensagem repassada -- > > Subject: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0 > > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:06:03 -0300 > > From: IH8Spammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Hi. > > > > Has anybody been able to get spanish, french, portuguese or whatever > > language accents in aterm with MDK 8.0? I am trying to configure > > portuguese accenting in it but haven't succeeded. Whereas accenting works > > perfectly in konsole and xterm, there've been no way to do the same with > > either aterm or rxvt. I am using us-international keyboard layout with > > deadkeys. I would appreciate directions on which configuration files to > > change to make it work. > > > > Thank you in advance. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0
As I told Stephen, I think Mandrake should do what I want and not the contrary :-). Besides I like transparency (OK not a very technical motivation :-) The question is that I have aterm accenting perfectly in RedHat 6.x and also in Conectiva Linux (whose native language is portuguese). I have installed aterm rpm package from Conectiva and it didn't work. I am using XWindow 3.3.6 in both RedHat and Conectiva. Maybe some change in X 4 that breaks the way aterm reads keys. Regards Em Qua 30 Mai 2001 12:57, you wrote: > I hate to put it this way, but: > It's not Mandrakes fault! It's obviously a shortcoming of aterm. Either > get ahold of the aterm developers and ask them, or why not just use a > terminal that DOES support what you want to do? There's certainly > nothing magic about aterm! > > Ric > > IH8Spammers wrote: > > Doesn't anybody know? I am almost giving up Mandrake because of that > > annoying behaviour :-( > > > > -- Mensagem repassada -- > > Subject: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0 > > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:06:03 -0300 > > From: IH8Spammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Hi. > > > > Has anybody been able to get spanish, french, portuguese or whatever > > language accents in aterm with MDK 8.0? I am trying to configure > > portuguese accenting in it but haven't succeeded. Whereas accenting works > > perfectly in konsole and xterm, there've been no way to do the same with > > either aterm or rxvt. I am using us-international keyboard layout with > > deadkeys. I would appreciate directions on which configuration files to > > change to make it work. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --- > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [expert] CUPS and Samba problem
I now see that the info I needed was in the default smb.conf! Trouble was I copied my smb.conf over from a previous installation and though the mdk smb.conf was saved by me I never thought to look at it. Thanks to all, Neil
[expert] Can any coders here make a simple c proggy build?
I have downloaded the source for a simple c program that I wish to use in my scientific research. Unfortunately, it simply will not build on my system (Mandrake 8.0), and I am not a coder so I have no idea why. The file is small (tar.Z) at ~700k. Could someone with a clue take a look at it and try to determine why it wont build and what must be done to make it build? It contains a simple build script called codonWinstall which guides you through a short series of questions. I can either send the file directly to you as an attachment OR you can get it from: http://www.molbiol.ox.ac.uk/cu/culong.html Someone? Anyone? I could REALLY use this app.
Re: [expert] huge memory usage!
On Wednesday 30 May 2001 12:28, Sarang Lakare wrote: > Can anybody please explain this? I don't have X running on this machine. I > am showing the output of top sorted by memory usage here. Why is free > showing 120MB used?? > > I am observing this on all the three LM8.0 machines that I have and this > could be serious. Am I missing something here? > > Thanks in advance > sarang > You are indeed missing something--look at the amount used for buffers and cache. This can be freed by the system when a program issues a malloc() call. It can be grabbed again from the free memory pool when the program releases it and turned to the same purpose, making your machine run faster. In Windows, you are taught to reboot when your resource meter drops. In linux, unused memory is considered WASTED memory. The system, the kernel, WILL employ it for something beneficial if at all possible. Your systems are functioning mormally. Civileme > > 3:31pm up 5 days, 2:09, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > 54 processes: 53 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped > CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle > CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle > Mem: 899952K av, 556948K used, 343004K free, 0K shrd, 170032K > buff Swap: 1791208K av, 118408K used, 1672800K free > 265936K cached > > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > 1081 squid 14 0 3952 2724 2076 S 0.0 0.3 2:37 squid > 13363 root 9 0 1692 1588 1312 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 sshd > 13366 root 15 0 1584 1584 1156 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 bash > 13403 root 19 0 1204 1204 972 R 0.1 0.1 0:00 top > 13354 postfix9 0 804 804 684 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 pickup > 11206 sarang 8 0 1084 528 528 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 csh > 1154 root 9 0 2512 460 228 S 0.0 0.0 0:03 miniserv.pl > 1005 postfix9 0 488 416 416 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 qmgr > 821 root 9 0 376 316 316 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.mountd > 636 rpc9 0 264 240 240 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 portmap > 11204 root 9 0 564 216 216 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 sshd > 763 root 9 0 368 180 156 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 sshd > 648 root 9 0 232 176 176 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 syslogd > 1079 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld > 1134 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 mysqld > 1135 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld > 1153 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld > 11508 sarang 9 0 348 132 132 S 0.0 0.0 0:06 xosview > 686 root 9 0 184 128 128 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 ypbind > 1001 root 9 0 208 12496 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 master > 1036 root 10 0 172 11296 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 crond > 1 root 9 0 120 7676 S 0.0 0.0 0:07 init > 1108 xfs9 0 2128 5252 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 xfs > 782 root 9 0 200 20 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 xinetd > 1047 root 9 0 1848 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 safe_mysqld > 657 root 9 0 6324 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 klogd > 672 rpcuser9 0 1164 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.statd > 685 root 9 0844 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 ypbind > 812 root 9 0724 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.rquotad > 1080 root 9 0 1884 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 squid > 1173 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > 1174 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > 1175 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > 1176 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > 1177 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > 1178 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty > 2 root 8 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 keventd > 3 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:25 kswapd > 4 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreclaimd > 5 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:03 bdflush > > > > [root@vv17 /root]# free > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem:899952 556784 343168 0 170032 265936 > -/+ buffers/cache: 120816 779136 > Swap: 1791208 1184081672800 > [root@vv17 /root]# > > [root@vx17 /root]# cat /proc/meminfo > total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: > Mem: 921550848 570155008 3513958400 174112768 272318464 > Swap: 1834196992 121249792 1712947200 > MemTotal: 899952 kB > MemFree:343160 kB > MemShared: 0 kB > Buffers:170032 kB > Cached: 265936 kB > Active: 7248 kB > Inact_dirty:426376
Re: [expert] Promise ATA100 installation ORDEAL
On Wednesday 30 May 2001 12:13, Patrick Mayer wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This is an account of my troubles when installing Mandrake 8.0. As > you'll see, strange things happend when new kernel versions arrive... > > My setup is as follows: > > PIII 800 on a ASUS P3B-F (I know, it should not support a processor with > a 133mhz front bus speed but strangely enough, it works like a charm ;) > 256 meg (PC133) > 30 Gig WD hard drive. > Promise ATA-100 drive controller: seen as scsi controller by the bios, > used to be recognized as /dev/hde in Madnrake 7.2) > 2 cd-rom (writer and reader) on Secondary ide controller (/dev/hdc & > /dev/hdd) > Primary IDE channel is disabled, thus leaving IRQ 14 free for the > Promise controller. > > The rest is not relevant and you'll soon see why: > > The installation went well and smoothly only when I rebooted: > > The kernel loaded fine but panicked at the start of the "interactive > setup" part of the boot. It mentionned that it could not find the > /dev/hde6 device > (that's the / partition) That's strange because it just booted from > /dev/hde5 (the /boot partition) so if it could boot from one partition, > it should be > able to locate the next one on the same drive. After a few minutes of > trial and error (lilo: linux root=/dev/hde6), I tried booting with the > floppy created during install. To no avail! Things weren't looking up > when I tried something else... > > Let's suppose that the kernel renames /dev/hde to /dev/hda after it has > booted. > > The boot got one step further, mentionning that it could not mount > partition /dev/hde6 on / This meant I was on the right track. So, I got > a copy of > Tombsrt (the mini distro on a floppy), disconnected the hard disk and > installed it on the mobo's primary IDE channel and rebooted in tombsrt. > Then, I mounted > the / partition while in tombsrt. I changed the fstab entries to rename > all references about /dev/hde to /dev/hda. Shut down the machine, > reconnected the HD to > the Promise card and rebooted the thing. > > It worked, at last... > > Now my question is: Why does this version of the kernel (2.4.3 I > believe) remaps devices like this? This does not make any sense! > > Just my 2 sense (s)! Well, now I know who to contact when I want to use a sledgehammer to crack an egg! The install kernel has the option to detect off-board IDE controllers first disabled. The boot kernel has it enabled. This causes this problem for several rigs. It is not easy to remedy, because the install kernel gets too big for a floppy image when you compile it with the option enabled. Moreover, some hardware pretends to be embedded and works anyway. Some that actually IS iembedded like the ASUS A7v series works fine. One board with an on-board HPT370 showed this problem. I am still trying to build an install kernel that will fit a floppy with that particular option enabled. If I succeed, it will be in a tips and tricks page on the mandrake website. Civileme
Re: [expert] huge memory usage!
So sprach Sarang Lakare am Wed, May 30, 2001 at 04:06:10PM -0400: > No, not the swap usage.. but the the memory usage.. It shows 126MB used.. > how??? top dosn't show any process which is using a lot of memory.. the total > of top is about 15mb or so.. where does this extra memory usage come from? Old data. Since you have suge a huge amount of memory, stuff hardly gets deleted. Stuff includes things like old images, sound or what not else. And I think that I read somewhere, that also each page of SWAP requires some amount of RAM. Don't know where I read it, though. > I don't agree.. if the process was swapped out fine, but after it finished, > the swap should become empty again. I think tis a problem with 2.4.x Well, why should it become empty? If there's still enough room in Swap/RAM, what good would it be to drop the memory? I mean, suppose you start GIMP with a huge file. The first time, it's gonna be slow. Quit GIMP. Restart GIMP with this huge file. It should be an awfull lot faster. This is, because the image and all that is still in RAM/Swap. If the kernel would drop the memory, you would not get this speed improvement. > I have a 1.5GB system.. and swap was supposed to be double that right? No. This was in 'ancient' times. Nowadays this is no more true. With 1.5 GB of RAM, you're fine with 256 MB of SWAP, so that you have some prior notice that you're system is crowded. I mean, when you start to swap, you'll notice that you have a problem because all your ram is full. > Here I have a problem too.. I cannot get LM8.0 to detect 1.5GB.. I tried > appending mem=1500M to lilo but it didnt' change a bit. (yes I ran lilo b4 > rebooting!) Don't know for sure, but in Cooker there's a -enterprise kernel. Only this -enterprise kernel supports huge amounts of memory like you've got. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 7 hours 5 minutes
[expert] sendmail permission settings?
Hallo, I'm running LM 7.2 with sendmail-8.11.0-3mdk. Now I get some errors when a normal user is trying to use sendmail. Current settings for /usr/sbin/sendmail are: -r-xr-xr-x1 bin bin390172 Okt 3 2000 sendmail* Is this correct? I've read a post that the settings should be like this: -r-sr-sr-x1 root mail 390172 Oct 3 2000 /usr/sbin/sendmail And that senmail has to be owned by root. Is this correct or will this compromise security? Thanx in advance Andreas
Re[2]: [expert] huge memory usage!
Originally I was goin to send this only to Sarang, then I finally saw what Sarang did - see the discovery process below: Sarang Lakare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You mean the Swap usage? Well, these are old programs which at some time > > No, not the swap usage.. but the the memory usage.. It shows 126MB used.. > how??? top dosn't show any process which is using a lot of memory.. the total > of top is about 15mb or so.. where does this extra memory usage come from? Previously you said: 3:31pm up 5 days, 2:09, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 54 processes: 53 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle Mem: 899952K av, 556948K used, 343004K free, 0K shrd, 170032K buff Swap: 1791208K av, 118408K used, 1672800K free 265936K cached Now, I'm confused. Where do you see 15mb or so of memory used? Here, let me interpolate some commas: 3:31pm up 5 days, 2:09, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 54 processes: 53 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle Mem: 899,952K av, 556,948K used, 343,004K free, 0K shrd, 170,032K buff Swap: 1,791,208K av, 118,408K used, 1,672,800K free 265,936K cached So I see 1/2 gig used. Also, beware - top shows 2 numbers - total RAM in use currently, AND total actual size of the program. Unfortunately top does NOT appear to allow you to sort on that 2nd number... Hmm. So, I added up all the numbers under top, and got 31,088 kbytes. Now you've got me wondering. What does ps -axl say? rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re[2]: [expert] huge memory usage!
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW: Not that it's any of my business - but what on earth are 1.7gb of swap > good for? I just read that across the cubewall to my neighbor and he said "Video editing" (he does a lot of that) Then he said - "In 10 years, we'll all be doing climate simulations on our laptops!" cute... rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re: [expert] huge memory usage!
> You mean the Swap usage? Well, these are old programs which at some time No, not the swap usage.. but the the memory usage.. It shows 126MB used.. how??? top dosn't show any process which is using a lot of memory.. the total of top is about 15mb or so.. where does this extra memory usage come from? I am seeing more and more of this on LM8 machines.. this was never a problem with LM7.x > where swapped out. Nothing to worry about. If you'd ever run out of > memory (which is doubtful with 880 MB of RAM and such an astronomically > gigantic Swap file), it would be dumped to hold more recently used > programs/data. I don't agree.. if the process was swapped out fine, but after it finished, the swap should become empty again. I think tis a problem with 2.4.x kernels.. coz I read something about it on the lists. > BTW: Not that it's any of my business - but what on earth are 1.7gb of swap > good for? I have a 1.5GB system.. and swap was supposed to be double that right? Anyway, I kept it to teh size of the RAM... Here I have a problem too.. I cannot get LM8.0 to detect 1.5GB.. I tried appending mem=1500M to lilo but it didnt' change a bit. (yes I ran lilo b4 rebooting!) any help is highly appreciated. thanks a lot sarang > > Alexander Skwar -- = Sarang Lakare Department of Computer Science|Linux, MS-DOS and Windows ... PhD Student |(also known as the Good, SUNY Stony Brook, NY, USA | the Bad and the Ugly..) http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~lsarang |http://www.linux.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 update in pieces...
Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > In cases like this, I've always found it best to go back to square one. > list all of the kde packages (to see what's installed): > > rpm -qa | grep kde (presumming an rpm installation of KDE). > > Then go through and erase KDE (this can be a chore because of > dependancies. Write down anything you remove, you'll probably need to > re-install it). > > rpm -e > > Then grab your original CD, and re-install the KDE stuff. It's drastic, > but when you've hosed the libs, other options may be limited. > > Good luck! > > Ric > I've done this already, doens't work... =o( -- Leonardo T. de Carvalho Ibiz Tecnologia Frase aleatória: "A mother takes twenty years to make a man of her boy, and another woman makes a fool of him in twenty minutes. -- Frost "
[expert] MDK8 and KDE sound
Hi, I just installed MDK8 all works fine, only the sound in KDE don't work. In licq, harddrake (etc.) the sound works. I think I got a problem with the artsd, but under my old RedHat 7 with KDE 2.1 all worked fine. So here some things I tried: 1. restart /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsa 2. started 'artsd -l 0' by hand device capabilities: revision0 duplex realtime trigger mmap buffering: 7 fragments with 1024 bytes (audio latency is 40.6 ms) rebuilding bus out_soundcard - 2 channels - 0 clients - 1 servers audio format is 44100 Hz, 16 bits, 2 channels device capabilities: revision0 duplex realtime trigger mmap buffering: 7 fragments with 1024 bytes (audio latency is 40.6 ms) addDirectory(/usr/lib/mcop,) addDirectory(/usr/lib/mcop/Arts,Arts) Arts::MidiManager registered successfully. 3. ne console windows 'artsplay /usr/share/doc/qt-2.3.0/examples/sound/sounds/4.wav' _RESULT:_ UnixManager: got notifyIO socketconnection created, fd = 5 play '/usr/share/doc/qt-2.3.0/examples/sound/sounds/4.wav'! [artsd] ** Warning ** MCOP ObjectManager: can't find implementation for Arts::Synth_PLAY_WAV. Speicherzugriffsfehler (core dumped) In KDE Control-Center I cannot get any information abount my soundcard. Harddrake found an ESS Techn. ES1968 Maestro2 and the kernel modul ist maestro. Thats corrcet and an 'cat /path/to/wav > /dev/audio' works fine. So can anyone please help me? I searched google.groups.com and many other archivs but I couldn't find any hind. -- Best regards, Magnus
Re: [expert] huge memory usage!
So sprach Sarang Lakare am Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:28:22PM -0400: > Can anybody please explain this? I don't have X running on this machine. I am > showing the output of top sorted by memory usage here. Why is free showing > 120MB used?? You mean the Swap usage? Well, these are old programs which at some time where swapped out. Nothing to worry about. If you'd ever run out of memory (which is doubtful with 880 MB of RAM and such an astronomically gigantic Swap file), it would be dumped to hold more recently used programs/data. BTW: Not that it's any of my business - but what on earth are 1.7gb of swap good for? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 6 hours 26 minutes
Re: [expert] huge memory usage!
>Can anybody please explain this? I don't have X running on this machine. I am >showing the output of top sorted by memory usage here. Why is free showing >120MB used?? > >I am observing this on all the three LM8.0 machines that I have and this >could be serious. Am I missing something here? > >Thanks in advance >sarang > > > >[root@vv17 /root]# free > total used free sharedbuffers cached >Mem:899952 556784 343168 0 170032 265936 >-/+ buffers/cache: 120816 779136 >Swap: 1791208 1184081672800 >[root@vv17 /root]# > >[root@vx17 /root]# cat /proc/meminfo > total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: >Mem: 921550848 570155008 3513958400 174112768 272318464 >Swap: 1834196992 121249792 1712947200 >MemTotal: 899952 kB >MemFree:343160 kB >MemShared: 0 kB >Buffers:170032 kB >Cached: 265936 kB >Active: 7248 kB >Inact_dirty:426376 kB >Inact_clean: 2344 kB >Inact_target:4 kB >HighTotal: 0 kB >HighFree:0 kB >LowTotal: 899952 kB >LowFree:343160 kB >SwapTotal: 1791208 kB >SwapFree: 1672800 kB > >- >Sarang Lakare > >http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~lsarang >http://www.linux.org I'd like to see if its the same in runlevel 1. I'm on Red Hat 7.1 (couldn't install LM8) and memory usage is through the roof. -Wes Yates -- -Wes Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.artsengraving.com/~wyates "No, I will _not_ fix your computer."
[expert] huge memory usage!
Can anybody please explain this? I don't have X running on this machine. I am showing the output of top sorted by memory usage here. Why is free showing 120MB used?? I am observing this on all the three LM8.0 machines that I have and this could be serious. Am I missing something here? Thanks in advance sarang 3:31pm up 5 days, 2:09, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 54 processes: 53 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.1% system, 0.0% nice, 99.4% idle CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle Mem: 899952K av, 556948K used, 343004K free, 0K shrd, 170032K buff Swap: 1791208K av, 118408K used, 1672800K free 265936K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 1081 squid 14 0 3952 2724 2076 S 0.0 0.3 2:37 squid 13363 root 9 0 1692 1588 1312 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 sshd 13366 root 15 0 1584 1584 1156 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 bash 13403 root 19 0 1204 1204 972 R 0.1 0.1 0:00 top 13354 postfix9 0 804 804 684 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 pickup 11206 sarang 8 0 1084 528 528 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 csh 1154 root 9 0 2512 460 228 S 0.0 0.0 0:03 miniserv.pl 1005 postfix9 0 488 416 416 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 qmgr 821 root 9 0 376 316 316 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.mountd 636 rpc9 0 264 240 240 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 portmap 11204 root 9 0 564 216 216 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 sshd 763 root 9 0 368 180 156 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 sshd 648 root 9 0 232 176 176 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 syslogd 1079 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld 1134 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 mysqld 1135 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld 1153 mysql 9 0 2736 16416 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mysqld 11508 sarang 9 0 348 132 132 S 0.0 0.0 0:06 xosview 686 root 9 0 184 128 128 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 ypbind 1001 root 9 0 208 12496 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 master 1036 root 10 0 172 11296 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 crond 1 root 9 0 120 7676 S 0.0 0.0 0:07 init 1108 xfs9 0 2128 5252 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 xfs 782 root 9 0 200 20 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 xinetd 1047 root 9 0 1848 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 safe_mysqld 657 root 9 0 6324 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 klogd 672 rpcuser9 0 1164 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.statd 685 root 9 0844 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 ypbind 812 root 9 0724 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.rquotad 1080 root 9 0 1884 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 squid 1173 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 1174 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 1175 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 1176 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 1177 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 1178 root 9 0644 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 2 root 8 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 keventd 3 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:25 kswapd 4 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreclaimd 5 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:03 bdflush [root@vv17 /root]# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:899952 556784 343168 0 170032 265936 -/+ buffers/cache: 120816 779136 Swap: 1791208 1184081672800 [root@vv17 /root]# [root@vx17 /root]# cat /proc/meminfo total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 921550848 570155008 3513958400 174112768 272318464 Swap: 1834196992 121249792 1712947200 MemTotal: 899952 kB MemFree:343160 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers:170032 kB Cached: 265936 kB Active: 7248 kB Inact_dirty:426376 kB Inact_clean: 2344 kB Inact_target:4 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 899952 kB LowFree:343160 kB SwapTotal: 1791208 kB SwapFree: 1672800 kB - Sarang Lakare http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~lsarang http://www.linux.org
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 update in pieces...
In cases like this, I've always found it best to go back to square one. list all of the kde packages (to see what's installed): rpm -qa | grep kde (presumming an rpm installation of KDE). Then go through and erase KDE (this can be a chore because of dependancies. Write down anything you remove, you'll probably need to re-install it). rpm -e Then grab your original CD, and re-install the KDE stuff. It's drastic, but when you've hosed the libs, other options may be limited. Good luck! Ric Leonardo T. de Carvalho wrote: > Hi all.. > > I'm with a though problem here... > I use the powerful machine on the work to develop, thus I > get many softwares (perl 5.6.1, Apache, mod_perl, MySQL,etc...) > build from the tarballs to meet our requirements. > But one of my colleagues , a Windows user, need to work > remotely on this machine. > Well, trying to do some updates on KDE, the bonehead here > writing broke all K environment... Some libraries have to get upgra > ded too... > And, by Murphy, my partner ONLY knows how to use the Kwrite, > which simply coredumps on my deffective ambient. > I use Enlightenment and Gnome without a hitch, but... > Well, I've thought about a " parcial" upgrade from MDK 7.2 > to 8, using the dependencies mechanism to upgrade the problematic > issues... (K) > But a friend told me to DON'T do this, since it don't work... > All softs I build MAY stand on the way that works now. > So, I need a advice on getting some editor Ultra Edit-like > (or Kwrite-like) or a way to get KDE working again... > > Some idea? > Thanx >
[expert] Promise ATA100 installation ORDEAL
Hi everyone, This is an account of my troubles when installing Mandrake 8.0. As you'll see, strange things happend when new kernel versions arrive... My setup is as follows: PIII 800 on a ASUS P3B-F (I know, it should not support a processor with a 133mhz front bus speed but strangely enough, it works like a charm ;) 256 meg (PC133) 30 Gig WD hard drive. Promise ATA-100 drive controller: seen as scsi controller by the bios, used to be recognized as /dev/hde in Madnrake 7.2) 2 cd-rom (writer and reader) on Secondary ide controller (/dev/hdc & /dev/hdd) Primary IDE channel is disabled, thus leaving IRQ 14 free for the Promise controller. The rest is not relevant and you'll soon see why: The installation went well and smoothly only when I rebooted: The kernel loaded fine but panicked at the start of the "interactive setup" part of the boot. It mentionned that it could not find the /dev/hde6 device (that's the / partition) That's strange because it just booted from /dev/hde5 (the /boot partition) so if it could boot from one partition, it should be able to locate the next one on the same drive. After a few minutes of trial and error (lilo: linux root=/dev/hde6), I tried booting with the floppy created during install. To no avail! Things weren't looking up when I tried something else... Let's suppose that the kernel renames /dev/hde to /dev/hda after it has booted. The boot got one step further, mentionning that it could not mount partition /dev/hde6 on / This meant I was on the right track. So, I got a copy of Tombsrt (the mini distro on a floppy), disconnected the hard disk and installed it on the mobo's primary IDE channel and rebooted in tombsrt. Then, I mounted the / partition while in tombsrt. I changed the fstab entries to rename all references about /dev/hde to /dev/hda. Shut down the machine, reconnected the HD to the Promise card and rebooted the thing. It worked, at last... Now my question is: Why does this version of the kernel (2.4.3 I believe) remaps devices like this? This does not make any sense! Just my 2 sense (s)!
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 update in pieces...
On Wednesday 30 May 2001 10:58, Leonardo T. de Carvalho wrote: > Hi all.. > > I'm with a though problem here... > I use the powerful machine on the work to develop, thus I > get many softwares (perl 5.6.1, Apache, mod_perl, MySQL,etc...) > build from the tarballs to meet our requirements. > But one of my colleagues , a Windows user, need to work > remotely on this machine. > Well, trying to do some updates on KDE, the bonehead here > writing broke all K environment... Some libraries have to get upgra > ded too... > And, by Murphy, my partner ONLY knows how to use the Kwrite, > which simply coredumps on my deffective ambient. > I use Enlightenment and Gnome without a hitch, but... > Well, I've thought about a " parcial" upgrade from MDK 7.2 > to 8, using the dependencies mechanism to upgrade the problematic > issues... (K) > But a friend told me to DON'T do this, since it don't work... > All softs I build MAY stand on the way that works now. > So, I need a advice on getting some editor Ultra Edit-like > (or Kwrite-like) or a way to get KDE working again... > > Some idea? > Thanx Yep, DON'T Get a disk of MandrakeFreq, then do the following urpme qt urpme kde Then drop in the MandrakeFreq Update and reboot Choose Update Make sure you install your X the same way as before--use expert mode. This will give you a working copy of KDE2.1 without forcing you to go to a later Mandrake. Civileme
Re: [newbie] IRQ problem.
damn, civleme, first I sware I saw a TYPO, from yu last week, and now humour what next... will we will discuss M$ dot NET. winner XP? really we all thank you. On Wednesday 30 May 2001 19:42, Civileme wrote: > On Wednesday 30 May 2001 07:03, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > Civileme wrote: > > > Well, the IRQs are assigned in groups to certain slots on the > > > motherboard. There are also ways in the BIOS of manipulating the IRQs > > > assigned. So using the BIO assignments and switching slots might be > > > what youwant to look at doing. > > > > > > Civileme > > > > Okay, this worked! I moved my PCI cards around, left slot 1 open, and > > mapped my IDE stuff to slot 1. No more conflict. Thanks everyone! ;-) > > > > BTW, does this mean that if you use ALL your PCI slots and have a > > conflict that you couldn't map your IDE to a slot? Just wondering. > > Technically PCIs are supposed to be able to share interrupts--and they do. > Sometimes, when two very high speed high priority devices share an > interrupt, particularly one that is mapped as low in the stack as IRQ3 is, > performance takes a heavy, even glitchy, hit. > > And some mobos have no ISA and two ide slots, so their BIOSes allow > different forms of mappings. But sure, you can have so many devices that > you paint yourself into a corner. Then it is time to learn how to spell > MOSIX or Beowulf or LAN. > > Civileme > > > Also, just wanted to point out that while I was moving cards around, > > rebooting, etc, etc, Mandrake handled it like a champ, no problems at > > all... > > That is very good news--for your next act figure out the steps necessary to > make Software Manager wrap around itself .-) > > > Windows 98se, on the other hand, complained - coughed - and wheezed like > > a 90 year old Asthmatic...it booted up into a 16 color/vga mode, and I > > had to reinstall my video card, SB, and SCSI cards drivers...(and btw, I > > only use Windog for games like Starcraft and Diablo2 - Once Wine can run > > these games fully, Windoze is ancient history!). ;-) > > Try the codeweavers version--believe it does run Starcraft. > > Civileme
[expert] Multiplier?
What the heck is this that showed up this morning? Anyone have any ideas on what is causing these messages? May 30 10:32:37 cluster2 Multiplier[20938]: Server starting May 30 10:32:39 cluster2 Multiplier[20939]: Server starting May 30 10:32:41 cluster2 Multiplier[20940]: Server starting May 30 10:32:43 cluster2 Multiplier[20940]: Access not permitted from 127.0.0.1, port 3994 May 30 10:32:43 cluster2 Multiplier[20940]: Refusing client May 30 10:32:43 cluster2 Multiplier[20941]: Server starting May 30 10:32:45 cluster2 Multiplier[20942]: Server starting May 30 10:32:47 cluster2 Multiplier[20942]: Access not permitted from 127.0.0.1, port 3998 May 30 10:32:47 cluster2 Multiplier[20942]: Refusing client May 30 10:32:47 cluster2 Multiplier[20945]: Server starting May 30 10:32:53 cluster2 Multiplier[20969]: Server starting -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health & Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
Civileme, Would be safe for my system if I was to download the necessary kernel packages "and" the reiser-utils package into a dir by themselves and then install those packages all at once? Mark Remember...Mercy triumphs over Judgement. Quote from "From the Father's Heart" by Charles Slagle On Wed, 30 May 2001, Civileme wrote: > Mark, > > 2.2.19 is in security updates. Load it. I tested it for 7.2 myself, and > ALSO you will find reiserfs-utils in the same security update. > > Just go to www.linux-mandrake.com and click on Security at the top of the > page then on 7.2 and scroll way way down the list. While you are there, grab > the other items where Vincent Danen and his security team have closed holes. > > Civileme >
Re: [expert] CUPS and Samba problem
Neil Kittipalo wrote: > I have several 98/95 boxes which have previously printed to the LaserJet 5L > connected to my Linux box. I was using SuSE then and had no problems. > Now with Mdk 7.2 and 8.0 I'm trying to make printing work with CUPS and I'm > having no luck. > I changed my smb.conf as follows ( I read this somewhere )... > > ; printing = bsd > ; printcap name = /etc/printcap >printing = cups >load printers = yes > > When I try to print from a windows box the light on the printer gives a quick > flash and that is all that happens - no output. > Printing from Linux apps is working fine. > > Can anyone advise me, please? > > Neil It's right there in your /etc/smb.conf file: # NOTE: If you have a CUPS print system there is no need to # specifically define each individual printer. # You must configure the samba printers with the appropriate Windows # drivers on your Windows clients. On the Samba server no filtering is # done. If you wish that the server provides the driver and the clients # send PostScript ("Generic PostScript Printer" under Windows), you have # to swap the 'print command' line below with the commented one. [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba browseable = yes # to allow user 'guest account' to print. guest ok = yes writable = no printable = yes create mode = 0700 # = # print command: see above for details. # = print command = lpr-cups -P %p -o raw %s -r # using client side printer drivers. ; print command = lpr-cups -P %p %s # using cups own drivers (use generic PostScript on clients). lpq command = lpstat -o %p lprm command = cancel %p-%j
[expert] Mandrake 8 update in pieces...
Hi all.. I'm with a though problem here... I use the powerful machine on the work to develop, thus I get many softwares (perl 5.6.1, Apache, mod_perl, MySQL,etc...) build from the tarballs to meet our requirements. But one of my colleagues , a Windows user, need to work remotely on this machine. Well, trying to do some updates on KDE, the bonehead here writing broke all K environment... Some libraries have to get upgra ded too... And, by Murphy, my partner ONLY knows how to use the Kwrite, which simply coredumps on my deffective ambient. I use Enlightenment and Gnome without a hitch, but... Well, I've thought about a " parcial" upgrade from MDK 7.2 to 8, using the dependencies mechanism to upgrade the problematic issues... (K) But a friend told me to DON'T do this, since it don't work... All softs I build MAY stand on the way that works now. So, I need a advice on getting some editor Ultra Edit-like (or Kwrite-like) or a way to get KDE working again... Some idea? Thanx -- Leonardo T. de Carvalho Ibiz Tecnologia Frase aleatória: ""I got a question for ya. Ya got a minute?" -- two programmers passing in the hall "
Re: [expert] rpmdrake confused?
At 06:15 PM 5/30/2001 -0700, Civileme wrote: >On Wednesday 30 May 2001 08:00, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: > > I have noticed that my rpmdrake tends to lose CDROM 2 from the list. > > > > Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > > > this is really odd. rpmdrake has suddenly developed amnesia about > > > my install cdroms. i look at the list of packages available, and > > > select one. i click on 'install/remove'. it tells me to insert > > > the first cdrom (or the second, depending on the package). i do. > > > i clock the ok bar. it ejects the CD and says "try again". is > > > there some kind of DB inconsistency issue here? > > >Try this > >1. Remove ALL sources from Software manager > >2. rpm --rebuilddb > >3. Give software manager some sources again. > >If this cures the problem, then see if you can cause it again, but this time >take notes . There does appear to be a bug in this code and the symptoms >are really confusing. (And it sure doesn't help when everyone here knows >exactly how to use the software--it is some sort of error-recovery that must >not be happening as anticipated, and we can't seem to reproduce it :-/ okie dokie. i'll try this when i get home. thx!
[expert] aic7xxx Problems.
Is there anything official on when we can expect a fix for the aic7xxx scsi problems in Mandrake 8? Reading through some of the Redhat discussions on the problem, they seem to think its a problem with some of the PCI code of the new kernel.. or maybe they are pretty certain its with the PCI code.. Is there anything official from Mandrake on whats being done about this issue? Between this error and the IBM Thinkpad trackpoint issues I don't have any machines I can successfully use MDK 8.0 on.. -- Ronald Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] rpmdrake confused?
On Wednesday 30 May 2001 08:00, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: > I have noticed that my rpmdrake tends to lose CDROM 2 from the list. > > Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > > this is really odd. rpmdrake has suddenly developed amnesia about > > my install cdroms. i look at the list of packages available, and > > select one. i click on 'install/remove'. it tells me to insert > > the first cdrom (or the second, depending on the package). i do. > > i clock the ok bar. it ejects the CD and says "try again". is > > there some kind of DB inconsistency issue here? Try this 1. Remove ALL sources from Software manager 2. rpm --rebuilddb 3. Give software manager some sources again. If this cures the problem, then see if you can cause it again, but this time take notes . There does appear to be a bug in this code and the symptoms are really confusing. (And it sure doesn't help when everyone here knows exactly how to use the software--it is some sort of error-recovery that must not be happening as anticipated, and we can't seem to reproduce it :-/ Civileme
Re: [expert] CUPS and Samba problem
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > At 08:55 AM 5/30/2001 -0700, Scott Taylor wrote: > > > >Do you really need CUPS? > > > > > > > >If not, go back to BSD style printing (lpr) and Samba should work fine. > > > > > > odd. i'm using samba with cups under 8.0 and it works fine. > > > >So then, what is wrong with his config. I had the same problem, I removed > >CUPS and went back to lpr and everything just worked. Does CUPs need some > >special setting, file perms or something? > > dunno. here's what i've been using: > > [printers] > comment = All Printers > # path = /var/spool/samba > # create mask = 0700 > guest ok = Yes > printable = Yes > printing = CUPS > # print command = lpr-cups -P %p %s # using cups own drivers (use > generic > PostScript on clients). > # print command = lpr -o raw > # lpq command = lpstat -o %p > # lprm command = cancel %p-%j > > this is samba 2.0.9. look at the files in /var/log/cups/, any hints there? > May also want to check the samba logs. ;)
Re: Fwd: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0
I hate to put it this way, but: It's not Mandrakes fault! It's obviously a shortcoming of aterm. Either get ahold of the aterm developers and ask them, or why not just use a terminal that DOES support what you want to do? There's certainly nothing magic about aterm! Ric IH8Spammers wrote: > Doesn't anybody know? I am almost giving up Mandrake because of that annoying > behaviour :-( > > -- Mensagem repassada -- > Subject: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0 > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:06:03 -0300 > From: IH8Spammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hi. > > Has anybody been able to get spanish, french, portuguese or whatever language > accents in aterm with MDK 8.0? I am trying to configure portuguese > accenting in it but haven't succeeded. Whereas accenting works perfectly > in konsole and xterm, there've been no way to do the same with either > aterm or rxvt. I am using us-international keyboard layout with > deadkeys. I would appreciate directions on which configuration files to > change to make it work. > > Thank you in advance. > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > --- > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
Re[2]: [expert] kmail & importing mails
Scott Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andreas [iso-8859-1] Müller wrote: > > > Hallo, > > > > I'm using kmail and would like to import mails from an older LM installation. > > Is there any easy way to import the mails or ADD them to the exinting ones? > > > > man cat > > > That's the short answer ;-) A (slightly) longer answer is: append the file(s) you want moved over to the appropriate file(s) on the new place, e.g. 'cat file1 >> file2' For binary files this won't work (probably), and you may need to move the messages back to /var/spool/mail/ and reload them that way. Again, 'cat stuff >> /var/spool/mail/' is your friend - just be sure nothing else (like sendmail and friends) can write to it while you're doing those cats!. rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re[2]: [expert] /etc/hosts.deny ?
Scott Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andreas [iso-8859-1] Müller wrote: > > > Hallo, > > > > I just have a dialup account and want to prevent all machines from the > > internet to connect to mine. As much as I understand it hosts.deny will do > > this. I have added the following line to /etc/hosts.deny > > > > ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY > > /etc/hosts.deny: > All: All: deny > > /etc/hosts.allow > All: localhost: allow > > > Also you should probably have the hosts' machine name in there as well as 'localhost' - not sure if that opens any security holes or not, I'll let those more knowledgeable speak up here... (i.e. if the host name is 'ahost' then /etc/hosts.allow would say: ALL: localhost: allow ALL: ahost: allow ALSO! Beware that this ONLY protects those things started by inetd that use tcp-wrappers! There could be many things that are not started by inetd that need protection also! to start out getting an idea of what's hanging in the wind, do 'netstat -a|less' and look at the ports that are being listened to - shut down all listeners that you are certain you don't need or want, and investigate why you think you should have any others... There's lots more, but much of it is on the 'net already. Howto's on setting up a firewall tell lots of the info you want, plus there's some security info on places like securityfocus and rootprompt.org - go to your favourite search engine and search for things like 'linux security' 'firewalls' and so forth... If all else fails I can send out my security bookmarks... rc rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re: [expert] fixed font error
Not that this may be a fix for an actual Mandrake problem, but I got this exact same error on 4 different machines. I discovered however that in my installation disks that caused the problems. Even though I burned the ISO's with no errors, I got the fixed font error message and could not start X. Copying all X config files from a duplicate, but working machine did not help (it was built with different CD's). I re-burnt the CD's from a different burner/stack of CD's and all problems disappeared. Thought you might want to know, even though thats not a fix if your problem was caused by Mandrake itself. -Brian On Wednesday 30 May 2001 10:38, mp wrote: > hy! > i read the docs about changing fonts and everything, but > i cant resolve my "fixed font" not found problem. > after reboot x wont start and i try everything, after > some time it starts, but i cant figure out what exactly > i am doing or what is wrong- i restart xfs, run drakfont,run mkfontdir > -3 times running drakfont helped, the fourth time restarting xfs after > some other things helped > > it has nothing to do with > the config file, i tried every combination in it- > is there a way to reinstall that part of X- just like it was > after installing mandrake all new? so i could get back > to start and redo the font stuff right this time... > thank you! > philipp
Re: [expert] kmail & importing mails
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andreas [iso-8859-1] Müller wrote: > Hallo, > > I'm using kmail and would like to import mails from an older LM installation. > Is there any easy way to import the mails or ADD them to the exinting ones? > man cat
Re: [expert] CUPS and Samba problem
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Neil Kittipalo wrote: > I have several 98/95 boxes which have previously printed to the LaserJet 5L > connected to my Linux box. I was using SuSE then and had no problems. > Now with Mdk 7.2 and 8.0 I'm trying to make printing work with CUPS and I'm > having no luck. > I changed my smb.conf as follows ( I read this somewhere )... > > ; printing = bsd > ; printcap name = /etc/printcap >printing = cups >load printers = yes > > When I try to print from a windows box the light on the printer gives a quick > flash and that is all that happens - no output. > Printing from Linux apps is working fine. > Do you really need CUPS? If not, go back to BSD style printing (lpr) and Samba should work fine.
Re: [expert] /etc/hosts.deny ?
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andreas [iso-8859-1] Müller wrote: > Hallo, > > I just have a dialup account and want to prevent all machines from the > internet to connect to mine. As much as I understand it hosts.deny will do > this. I have added the following line to /etc/hosts.deny > > ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY /etc/hosts.deny: All: All: deny /etc/hosts.allow All: localhost: allow
Re: [expert] rpmdrake confused?
I have noticed that my rpmdrake tends to lose CDROM 2 from the list. Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > this is really odd. rpmdrake has suddenly developed amnesia about > my install cdroms. i look at the list of packages available, and > select one. i click on 'install/remove'. it tells me to insert > the first cdrom (or the second, depending on the package). i do. > i clock the ok bar. it ejects the CD and says "try again". is > there some kind of DB inconsistency issue here? -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health & Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614
[expert] Setting up a DHCP server on Mandrake 8
Hi all, I am trying to set up a dhcp server, without much success. The previous server worked fine. I more or less duplicated that setup. The situation: - LM 8.0 box, with three ethernet interfaces. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 48:54:E8:2B:7E:81 inet addr:123.45.123.210 Bcast:123.45.123.223 Mask:255.255.255.240 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:E1:C5:45 inet addr:10.0.0.254 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:E1:C5:44 inet addr:10.0.2.254 Bcast:10.0.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 I want to serve DHCP requests on all three networks. Only 10.0.0.0/24 has (some) windows boxes on it. So I added the following route: route add --host 255.255.255.255 dev eth1 Created a proper dhcpd config file (which used to work on another server with a similar role:): # dhcpd.conf # # option definitions common to all supported networks... option domain-name "XXX.com"; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; default-lease-time 60; max-lease-time 600; subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option broadcast-address 10.0.0.255; option routers 10.0.0.254; option domain-name-servers 10.0.0.254; range 10.0.0.130 10.0.0.200; host printer.intra.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:10:83:F4:6A:37; fixed-address 10.0.0.10; } host tesla.intra.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:60:b0:29:fc:3a; fixed-address 10.0.0.101; } host spock.intra.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:50:fc:09:6f:0b; fixed-address 10.0.0.102; } host vanderheijden.intra.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:10:a4:92:73:b5; fixed-address 10.0.0.103; } host zuse.intra.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:10:a4:92:79:32; fixed-address 10.0.0.104; } host planck.intra.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:d0:59:0d:b1:01; fixed-address 10.0.0.105; } host firewall.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:50:8b:e1:c5:45; fixed-address 10.0.0.106; } } subnet 10.0.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 10.0.2.135 10.0.2.200; option broadcast-address 10.0.2.255; option routers 10.0.2.254; option domain-name-servers 10.0.2.254; host gauss.dmz.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:20:af:b6:dc:1a; fixed-address 10.0.2.100;} host goedel.dmz.XXX.com { hardware ethernet 00:60:b0:29:fc:55; fixed-address 10.0.2.103; } } subnet 123.45.123.208 netmask 255.255.255.240 { range 123.45.123.220 123.45.123.222; option broadcast-address 123.45.123.223; option routers 123.45.123.209; option domain-name-servers 123.45.123.210; } ### End dhcpd.conf ### starting the dhcp deamon I get the following in my log: May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Internet Software Consortium DHCP Server 2.0pl5 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium. May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: All rights reserved. May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Please contribute if you find this software useful. May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth2/10.0.2.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth2/10.0.2.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Sending on Socket/eth2/10.0.2.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth1/10.0.0.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Sending on Socket/eth1/10.0.0.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth0/123.45.123.208 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Sending on Socket/eth0/123.45.123.208 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Sending on Socket/eth2/10.0.2.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth1/10.0.0.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Sending on Socket/eth1/10.0.0.0 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Listening on Socket/eth0/123.45.123.208 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: Sending on Socket/eth0/123.45.123.208 May 30 13:09:52 firewall dhcpd: dhcpd startup succeeded Result: It doesn't work... dhcp clients time out on the network without getting an adress... What next? TIA Krist
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
On Wednesday 30 May 2001 06:08, Mark Weaver wrote: > Dan, > > I can certainly understand your feelings on this. At the moment for me > though I've got a very inquisitive 4 year old that loves my Mandrake box. > I've been encouraging her to experiement and push as many buttons as she > likes. From time to time she locks things up tight, so having Reiser on > the system for this and other reasons is a god-send. > > The reason I was looking into the latest kernel was because of the > advisories of "holes" being found in 2.2.17. I've got 2.2.17secure running > now. I wonder if this one suffers from those same holes? > > And, just how messy and involved is this "one way trip?" > > Mark > > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Thanks Dan...that would explain a great many things that have been > > > giving me trouble with getting this kernel to work on my system. Is > > > there a fix for this? > > > > i think you can convert the old style to new style, but it's a one > > way trip. this (among other reasons) is why i've backed off from > > using reiser. Mark, 2.2.19 is in security updates. Load it. I tested it for 7.2 myself, and ALSO you will find reiserfs-utils in the same security update. Just go to www.linux-mandrake.com and click on Security at the top of the page then on 7.2 and scroll way way down the list. While you are there, grab the other items where Vincent Danen and his security team have closed holes. Civileme
Re: [expert] Back space on KDE terminal.
Hi, what IS your BS key doing? Do you get something like "^?" ? Try stty erase ^? Don't type the "?", just hit the BS key after "stty erase ". Nico On Thursday 31 May 2001 16:29, you wrote: > Hello fellows! > > Could someone help me? > > This doubt is driving me nuts!!! > > What I have to do to use the backspace key in a ssh session using KDE > terminal in a Mandrake 8.0? > > This key (BACKSPACE), on my keyboard layout (portuguese), do the same > thing that the DEL key do! But only in ssh sessions using KDE! > > Do you know something to help me? > > Thanks to everybody!!! > > > Denis.
[expert] LM 9.0 and dual cpu's
Im having a strang problem. After installing LM 8.0 it will not boot to smp. It sets up a linus-smp boot for lilo but when booting it starts to go through the boot sequence but just reboots the computer. it works fine in uniproccesor mode. Slakware 7.1 worked fine in smp mode. I cant see where it stops booting and reboots as the screens go by to fast. Bill
Re: Fwd: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0
I was able to reproduce it, but I have no idea why it happens. Can't you just use a terminal that it works in? -- Stephen On Wednesday 30 May 2001 05:50 am, IH8Spammers wrote: > Doesn't anybody know? I am almost giving up Mandrake because of that > annoying behaviour :-( > > -- Mensagem repassada -- > Subject: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0 > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:06:03 -0300 > From: IH8Spammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hi. > > Has anybody been able to get spanish, french, portuguese or whatever > language accents in aterm with MDK 8.0? I am trying to configure portuguese > accenting in it but haven't succeeded. Whereas accenting works perfectly in > konsole and xterm, there've been no way to do the same with either aterm or > rxvt. I am using us-international keyboard layout with > deadkeys. I would appreciate directions on which configuration files to > change to make it work. > > Thank you in advance.
[expert] kmail & importing mails
Hallo, I'm using kmail and would like to import mails from an older LM installation. Is there any easy way to import the mails or ADD them to the exinting ones? Thanx in advance Andreas
[expert] Back space on KDE terminal.
Hello fellows! Could someone help me? This doubt is driving me nuts!!! What I have to do to use the backspace key in a ssh session using KDE terminal in a Mandrake 8.0? This key (BACKSPACE), on my keyboard layout (portuguese), do the same thing that the DEL key do! But only in ssh sessions using KDE! Do you know something to help me? Thanks to everybody!!! Denis.
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
Dan, I can certainly understand your feelings on this. At the moment for me though I've got a very inquisitive 4 year old that loves my Mandrake box. I've been encouraging her to experiement and push as many buttons as she likes. From time to time she locks things up tight, so having Reiser on the system for this and other reasons is a god-send. The reason I was looking into the latest kernel was because of the advisories of "holes" being found in 2.2.17. I've got 2.2.17secure running now. I wonder if this one suffers from those same holes? And, just how messy and involved is this "one way trip?" Mark On Wed, 30 May 2001, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Thanks Dan...that would explain a great many things that have been giving > > me trouble with getting this kernel to work on my system. Is there a fix > > for this? > > i think you can convert the old style to new style, but it's a one > way trip. this (among other reasons) is why i've backed off from > using reiser. > > > >
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: > Thanks Dan...that would explain a great many things that have been giving > me trouble with getting this kernel to work on my system. Is there a fix > for this? i think you can convert the old style to new style, but it's a one way trip. this (among other reasons) is why i've backed off from using reiser.
[expert] CUPS and Samba problem
I have several 98/95 boxes which have previously printed to the LaserJet 5L connected to my Linux box. I was using SuSE then and had no problems. Now with Mdk 7.2 and 8.0 I'm trying to make printing work with CUPS and I'm having no luck. I changed my smb.conf as follows ( I read this somewhere )... ; printing = bsd ; printcap name = /etc/printcap printing = cups load printers = yes When I try to print from a windows box the light on the printer gives a quick flash and that is all that happens - no output. Printing from Linux apps is working fine. Can anyone advise me, please? Neil
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
Thanks Dan...that would explain a great many things that have been giving me trouble with getting this kernel to work on my system. Is there a fix for this? Mark On Wed, 30 May 2001, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > David, > > > > Thanks for the heads up, but can you be a little more specific? I've got > > an archive here on my system that goes back to February and I'm not > > finding anything about it. > > there is an incompatibility between the reiserfs in 2.2 and 2.4, IIRC. > > > >
[expert] /etc/hosts.deny ?
Hallo, I just have a dialup account and want to prevent all machines from the internet to connect to mine. As much as I understand it hosts.deny will do this. I have added the following line to /etc/hosts.deny ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY This setting worked for me in previous LM releases. Currently I have some problems, e.g. leafnode or webmin cannot be connected anymore. Can anyone help here PLZ? I want locally all services available but blocked for the outside world. TIA Andreas
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: > David, > > Thanks for the heads up, but can you be a little more specific? I've got > an archive here on my system that goes back to February and I'm not > finding anything about it. there is an incompatibility between the reiserfs in 2.2 and 2.4, IIRC.
[expert] Floppy device: mount/umount
Hi, I have a DELL Inspiron 4000 coming with a hot swapable CD-RW and FD. During the installation, I had the CD_RW in the swap bay and the FD attached to the parallel port. When later I removed the FD, a df -k made the shell hang, waiting to reach /dev/fd0. Similar was during shutdown, where it was waiting for fd0. In both cases, after a minute or so, FAT bread failed and the system went on. TO remove this problem, I have changed the /etc/fstab such that /dev/fd0 is not mounted (noauto keyword). However, when I want to use the FD, if I change the swap (during the laptop is down) and boot, and then mount -t vfat /dev/fdo0 /mnt/floppy, the FD is not detected. However, if I remove the noauto keyword in /etc/fstab, it is detected. This is a bit annoying to always change the /etc/fstab file (though I rarely use the FD). However, is there a cleaner way to do? Marc
Re: [expert] Mouse problems on Thinkpad w/MDK8
I have a TP570 & my trackpointer didn't work at all after installing LM8.0. There's a lenghty disscussion on mandrakeforum about this. Have a look at http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?thold=-1&mode=flat&order=1&sid=791#10871 nico On Tuesday 29 May 2001 16:01, you wrote: > Ok... Been using Mandrake for quite a while now (6.x-7.2) and just upgraded > to 8. I have it on a Thinkpad 760XD. When I boot, the mouse/pointer simply > will not work. If I boot and wiggle the mouse around while waiting for X to > come up, it works... Sometimes. What's happening here?
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
David, Thanks for the heads up, but can you be a little more specific? I've got an archive here on my system that goes back to February and I'm not finding anything about it. thanks, -- Mark * "what knowledge I have managed to accumlate over the years at times becomes obscured and even hidden amidst the vast emotional onslaught of my children. You never finish being a parent. :)" On Tue, 29 May 2001, David Rankin wrote: > Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > I've got a strange thing happening that I don't seem to have a clue about. > > I've compiled kernel 2.4.4 for my mandrake 7.2 machine. Everything about > > the compile went off without a hitch. When I boot the kernel, (and I'm > > booting from a floppy cause I won't commit the image until I'm satisfied > > it not buggy) it goes through the usual stuff at boot time, recognizes > > reiserFS, > > Uhh..., I seem to recall the reiserfs that ships with 2.4 is not backwards > compatible with the reiserfs that is included in the 2.2.xx kernel. Civileme > posted some good information on this a few weeks ago. Check the list archives, > but I think that's your problem. > > > -- > David Rankin > Nacogdoches, Texas > >
Re: [expert] Fonts in LM8.0 (a quick lesson)
Woody Green wrote: > > I'll make this potentially simpler: > > edit /etc/X11/fs/config > (...) > > and delete the line: "/usr/share/abisuite/AbiSuite/fonts," > > You can simply reboot and be done with it, or do the following (...) Hello! When I installed LM8, I saw the fonts in abiword were horrible, and I uninstalled it. So I don't have the line "/usr/share/abisuite/AbiSuite/fonts," in my /etc/X11/fs/config. The problem happens *without* abisuite installed. I have another computer with LM 7.2 (the fonts looks fantastic!). In this computer, the file fs/config has these two lines changed: In LM8.0: - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk:unscaled, - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont, In LM7.2: - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk, - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled, I changed It in LM8.0 and restart xfs and X, but the problem persist. (Can be I forgot something) Do you have LM8.0? See a web page in Konqueror, now zoom in serveral times. The fonts looks bad at some zoom levels (It's only a way for see the problem) Some idea? Do you need more information? Help. Thank you. Salu2, Oscar. > > issue the following (restarting the font server): > > /etc/init.d/xfs stop > /etc/init.d/xfs start > > Then logout of your X session. > > If you use gdm/xdm/kdm (graphical logins), you need to either > reboot or do: "init 3;init 5" from the console. > > It's the damn AbiSource fonts that look so horrible. Alternatively, > you could simply uninstall abisuite: rpm -e abisuite > > If you happen to be able to make sense of the fs/config, you can > play with it to see if you can create a default font load to suit > your tastes, but you have to restart the xfs server and pop out of > and back into X to make the changes take effect. Remember, make a > backup of anyfile you edit just in case... > > For a quick X font lesson, fonts are choosen for X and X apps mainly > in one of 3 ways: > > 1.) You specify the font in the application under the app's > preferences menu. > > 2.) The app looks for all "Times" (or other major font family) font > and grabs the first Times in the alaphabeticaly ordered list - > "Times (AbiSource)" comes before "Times (Adobe)". > > 3.) The apps pulls the first "Times" (or other major font family) > that it can find (the order that the fonts are listed in > /etc/X11/fs/config is important here.) This *supposedly* is > the default method if you haven't specified a font directly as > I understand it. > > So from here, you might have some leeway to play with the fonts to > suit your veiwing pleasure. > > Woody > > Oscar wrote: > > > Hi. > > I have problems with fonts in LM 8.0. It looks horrible. > > You can see the example I put at http://www.ua.es/personal/oscar/fuentes/ > > I'm following discussion about this problem at www.mandrakeforum.com and > > www.mandrakeuser.org > > This is my solution, but It's not complete, It's only "first aids": > > - Change the order of fonts in /etc/X11/fs/config, putting in first place > > 100dpi fonts. > > - Select lucidatypewriter in netscape, konqueror and kpanel. > > - Put the option -dpi 100 in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers > > It solves the problem, but only in part and sometimes. > > ? > > I presume the problem is in anti-aliasing (but It is OFF in KDE). I have an > > ATI Xpert XL. > > Excuse my english. > > Salu2, > > Oscar. > > > > -- > Woody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > --- > Gatewood Green Web Developer > http://www.linux.org/ The first stop for Linux info on the Net > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- > All opinions expressed by me are my own and not necessarily > endorsed by Linux Online, Inc. or Linux Headquarters, Inc.
Fwd: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0
Doesn't anybody know? I am almost giving up Mandrake because of that annoying behaviour :-( -- Mensagem repassada -- Subject: [expert] Accenting in aterm with Mandrake 8.0 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:06:03 -0300 From: IH8Spammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. Has anybody been able to get spanish, french, portuguese or whatever language accents in aterm with MDK 8.0? I am trying to configure portuguese accenting in it but haven't succeeded. Whereas accenting works perfectly in konsole and xterm, there've been no way to do the same with either aterm or rxvt. I am using us-international keyboard layout with deadkeys. I would appreciate directions on which configuration files to change to make it work. Thank you in advance. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
[expert] fixed font error
hy! i read the docs about changing fonts and everything, but i cant resolve my "fixed font" not found problem. after reboot x wont start and i try everything, after some time it starts, but i cant figure out what exactly i am doing or what is wrong- i restart xfs, run drakfont,run mkfontdir -3 times running drakfont helped, the fourth time restarting xfs after some other things helped it has nothing to do with the config file, i tried every combination in it- is there a way to reinstall that part of X- just like it was after installing mandrake all new? so i could get back to start and redo the font stuff right this time... thank you! philipp
Re: [expert] automatically logout ?
On Wednesday 30 May 2001 16:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > it didnt do it before but for about a month now i have been noticing that > my computer automatically logs me out after i leave it inactive for a > period of time. I have spent countless hrs looking for where there my be a > session timeout value or something of the sort to no avail, i am currently > using mandrake 7.0 using gnome/kde a resolution to this problem would be > greatly appreciated If you are using tcsh, try adding "unset autologout" to your .cshrc file. Ken
[expert] problem with truetype fonts
hi everybody, i am using mandrake 7.2 and i added some truetype fonts. and they are working fine .the fonts are visible in .ps files also.but when i try print it i am not able to get print with that fonts. how to get it solved? thank you for any help.., bye, satish __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[expert] automatically logout ?
it didnt do it before but for about a month now i have been noticing that my computer automatically logs me out after i leave it inactive for a period of time. I have spent countless hrs looking for where there my be a session timeout value or something of the sort to no avail, i am currently using mandrake 7.0 using gnome/kde a resolution to this problem would be greatly appreciated
[expert] temporary lines in Nedit when DRI enabled
Hi, When DRI is enabled and I use a Nedit window, every time I click (with my touchpad) in the Nedit window, the line is underlined (for a very short time). This behaviour disappears when DRI is disabled. Graphic card: ATI Rage Mobility 128 M3 (8MB), DefaultColorDepth 16. Marc
[expert] Login problem when DRI enabled
Hi, DRI work well on my laptop, however I noticed a small problem. Whenever I start the computer, after all the loading and checks, X is started, then comes the graphical user login. When I login (WM: Gnome), the graphical login disappears, and instead of to be logged, the graphical login comes again. This only appears at the first login after a shutdown/reboot. In the /var/log/messages (?), there were these lines: May 29 22:37:37 localhost kde(pam_unix)[1031]: session opened for user audard by (uid=0) May 29 22:37:37 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- May 29 22:37:37 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- May 29 22:37:39 localhost kde(pam_unix)[1031]: session closed for user audard May 29 22:37:46 localhost kde(pam_unix)[1081]: session opened for user audard by (uid=0) May 29 22:37:46 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- May 29 22:37:46 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- May 29 22:37:53 localhost gnome-name-server[1224]: starting One can see that the first session is closed after 2 seconds. Actually, where can I get the apparently missing modules? Marc