Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > And yeah, I feel better now. Thanks. > (gotta lay off that late night coffee...;) > > Ric > Hey bud, have some brews, it'll help you deal with life's little shitty moments... -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 00:22, J. Craig Woods wrote: > Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > > And yeah, I feel better now. Thanks. > > (gotta lay off that late night coffee...;) > > > > Ric > > > > Hey bud, have some brews, it'll help you deal with life's little shitty > moments... LOL Yeah, maybe so.. maybe so. But it's been me Juan Valdez for so long, he's named a crop after me! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
Rick wrote: > I'm tired of hostile "help lists" that love nothing more than to flame > anyone who dares to have a contradictory opinion. In an open list there are always ppl who would be better off to a newsgroup. But most times only thos ppl get flamed who just state "this or that sucks!" and don't elaborate why. Or ppl who don't give any useful information about their problem but "insist on getting help fast!" > I'm tired of the "partially finished" software, and having to argue over > the value of a much needed function, just because the DOD (Developer of > the Day) doesn't want to include it. As this is Open Source and the developer can do what he wants to do you have to live with that. OTOH, did you ever try to argue with M$ or some other large company about "needed features" in Windows-Software? > I'm tired of seeing an application with possibilities dissapear because > the developer graduated, and got a job. That's one of the downsides of Open Source. And companies like MandrakeSoft and SuSE try to minimize this negative aspect by sponsoring and even employ developers of important Open Source projects so they can keep working on their projects instead of getting jobs to make a living. > But mostly, I'm tired of paying more, and more for it all. And having > the distributors constantly stick their hand out for more. Point is: Nobody forces you to pay. Nobody forces you to upgrade a Linux system. You can keep versions of Linux distros longer than versions of the other OS. On the other side of the fence you are forced to pay when a new version of a software is used by all your business partbners and your old documents can't be imported into the new version. > It used to be that Linux was openly free. It was meant to be that way. > But then the companies came in, and saw a way to make money from Linus' > child, and built distributions. Ok, distributions were a good thing. > Rolling your own was a bear! You can still d'l a distro. What you can not do is get commercial Software for free. And I don't know any part of the GPL or in Linux philosophy where you read that it's forbidden to make money with Linux. > They still are in a way. But now Mandrake is taking it upon themselves > to make you feel guilty for that, and even worse, making you a second > class citizen. Where did you read this? Mandrake asks for money from ppl who 1. can afford to pay. 2. want to support MandrakeSoft If you don't belong to those 2 groups you don't need to feel guilty. > You can't get the same distributino from download, as you can by buying > a boxed set. You can't get StarOffice 6.0 without "Belonging to the > Club". Can't get this, can't get that. BAH! Wrong. 1. I think ist's the most natural thing that there has to be a difference between the cost-free download edition and the boxed set. 2. StarOffice 6.0 is part of the boxed set. So, to get StarOffice you have to be *either* a member of the club *or* buy the box. > Seems to me that Linus' little "free" operating system is now costing as > much as windows, without the benefit of the off the shelf software. > > Don't believe me? Add it up. > Average charge per new releass: > $69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year. $138.00 > Shipping: $15.00 per boxed set 30.00 > "The Club" > $10 per month x 12 > (Remember, you need to belong to the > $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0) 120.00 > - > Cost of Mandrake, per year: $288.00 OK, here is my calculation: New release $70 Shipping$15 Total$85 1. You don't have to buy *every* new release. Only every second or third release. Most times you only have to upgrade a few tools or apps which you can get on the net. 2. As already said: you don't have to be a clubmember to get SO6 if you buy the box. > Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of Mandrake > has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go down to the local > software store and buy a game for it. Or a business accounting package, > or a decent CD Label Printing Package. or OK, here's another calc: Win2K $100 (oh, you want networking? then it's $199, Oh you want a Office Suite? Then it's a coupüle of $$ more. An account managing programm? SOme more $$. A image manipulating programm? A mountain of more.) See which programs you use in Linux. Then find their brothers in the Windows world and add the prices to your basic price of W2K. > If you all want to turn on the jets, and flame me for it, fine. I just > felt the need to share a few points that just fry me from time to time. > Thanks for listening. Sorry, did not listen, I had to read it all! But nobody gets flamed for an opinion in a discussion (this is not the
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
The Mandrake community newsletter stated explicitly that it was included. I'm not gonna touch the comparison to Win XP. Like someone else said - fully loaded with solitaire and notepad! What a package! cheers Brian On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 19:07, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 22:30, Brian Parish wrote: > > Hang on Ric - I won't flame you, but I will correct your math. > > StarOffice 6 comes IN the boxed set, so let's start by revising the > > figures down to $168. Now we can flame accurately ;-) > > 6.0 is in the boxed set? > Are you sure about that? > > Dang. Changes my whole formula. > Ok, so now it only costs as much as Win XP > > ;) > > Ric > > > > > Brian > > > > On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 16:48, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > The full title of this: > > > > > > The little operating system that could, and the little company that > > > couldn't. > > > > > > Meaning of course Linux, and Mandrake. > > > > > > I'm a newly disgruntled user. Don't mis-read that. I'm not a new user by > > > any means. I still have my RedHat 3.x disks on the shelf. I'm just newly > > > disgruntled. > > > > > > Why? > > > I'm tired of things that don't work "consistantly". > > > I'm tired of hostile "help lists" that love nothing more than to flame > > > anyone who dares to have a contradictory opinion. > > > I'm tired of the "partially finished" software, and having to argue over > > > the value of a much needed function, just because the DOD (Developer of > > > the Day) doesn't want to include it. > > > I'm tired of seeing an application with possibilities dissapear because > > > the developer graduated, and got a job. > > > > > > But mostly, I'm tired of paying more, and more for it all. And having > > > the distributors constantly stick their hand out for more. > > > > > > It used to be that Linux was openly free. It was meant to be that way. > > > But then the companies came in, and saw a way to make money from Linus' > > > child, and built distributions. Ok, distributions were a good thing. > > > Rolling your own was a bear! > > > > > > Even those used to be totally free. You were encouraged to download it. > > > They still are in a way. But now Mandrake is taking it upon themselves > > > to make you feel guilty for that, and even worse, making you a second > > > class citizen. > > > You can't get the same distributino from download, as you can by buying > > > a boxed set. You can't get StarOffice 6.0 without "Belonging to the > > > Club". Can't get this, can't get that. BAH! > > > > > > Seems to me that Linus' little "free" operating system is now costing as > > > much as windows, without the benefit of the off the shelf software. > > > > > > Don't believe me? Add it up. > > > > > > Average charge per new releass: > > > $69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year. $138.00 > > > Shipping: $15.00 per boxed set 30.00 > > > "The Club" > > > $10 per month x 12 > > > (Remember, you need to belong to the > > > $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0) 120.00 > > > - > > > Cost of Mandrake, per year: $288.00 > > > > > > Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of Mandrake > > > has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go down to the local > > > software store and buy a game for it. Or a business accounting package, > > > or a decent CD Label Printing Package. or > > > > > > Ok, yep, I'll keep running it, because I like it. I'm just disgruntled. > > > > > > If you all want to turn on the jets, and flame me for it, fine. I just > > > felt the need to share a few points that just fry me from time to time. > > > Thanks for listening. > > > > > > JMHO-YMMV > > > > > > Ric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] C-Media 8738 won't give six speaker sound - followup
I just was just playing some more with my computer and I found out that my front speakers jack going into the computer was loose. The front right channel now works. Definately something I should have checked first and feel a little red for. Now the problem is just the center. If I disconnect the line from the computer going into the subwoofer (there is one cable with three ends that plug into my computer and then three ends into the subwoofer, from where the rest of the speakers plug in) for the center/sub, the center works but it sounds like a combo of the left and right channels. This only works if I disconnect the rear/sub line connected to the subwoofer, not vice versa. This has narrowed down the problem considerably I think. Now, I think the only problem is getting a signal out of my computer for the rear/sub line. Is anyone sure how to get that to work correctly with this chipset? Tom On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 00:12, Tom McLaughlin wrote: > I have C-Media 8738 sound card built into my IWill KK-266plusR > motherboard and have just goten a Creative Inspire 5300 5.1 sourround > sound set of speakers for my MDK 8.1 box. Unfortunately when I first > tried to use them I only got sound out of the subwoofer and left front > channel. I have already done some searching around the net and found > out I have to set the number of speakers used from 2 to 6 in the kernel > config. I have done that, rebuilt my kernel, and installed it. Now I > get front left, subwoofer, and the rear speakers going, but I stll can't > get the front right or center channels to output sound. Let me note > that the setup works perfectly fine in Windows so I'm pretty sure all > the wires are connected correctly from the speakers to the machine. Can > anyone help me to get all my stuff up and working? > > Thanks, > Tom > > > =_1017205815-1969-613 > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > If you care, blast your senator with some firm emails and phone calls, > plus get your friends to do it also. We can't let them take our rights > away. I for one love Linux and Mandrake enough that I'm willing to > Fight. E-Mail is largely ignored, and an ineffective way to petition most representatives and senators. If you're going to petition them in a way that will be noticed, you still need to send regular paper US mail. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] auto login on 8.2
Edit your /etc/sysconfig/autologin file to read AUTOLOGIN=no. Dave FemmeFatale said onto me: FemmeFatale> "Dodd, David J" wrote: FemmeFatale> > FemmeFatale> > I have just loaded 8.2 and so far it is working, got my orinoco card to FemmeFatale> > work without a hitch. One question though maybe I did this on FemmeFatale> > installation but when I boot up it auto logs into my user directory. FemmeFatale> > How do I change this so it will ask for a password. I looked in FemmeFatale> > userdrake and could not find it, is there anyway to change this in FemmeFatale> > terminal or do I use one of the gooie interface. FemmeFatale> > FemmeFatale> > thanks FemmeFatale> > FemmeFatale> The control center has an option in there for how to boot properly. FemmeFatale> FemmeFatale> Not sure about the CLI. FemmeFatale> FemmeFatale> Femme FemmeFatale> -- FemmeFatale> Good Decisions You boss Made: FemmeFatale> FemmeFatale> "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that FemmeFatale> character from Peanuts." FemmeFatale> FemmeFatale> - Source: Dilbert FemmeFatale> FemmeFatale> -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.2 Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Enlightenment 0.16.5Sylpheed 0.7.4claws David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How does one place icon on the Gnome Desktop
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 19:10, Mark Williamson wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > A simple question.. I haven't had a look at gnome for quite some > time.. I am trying to add some Icons to the Gnome desktop to a > applications such as "Star Office" The old way one used to use gmc, and > use the third mouse button, and drag it to desktop, Then a little menu > came up saying Copy, Move, or Link..O.K. how does one do this now?, > am trying to do this from Nautilus but it don't work.. Just found out how.. I installed Star Office into /usr/local/office52 then use Menudrake and add it's executable to the menu, then drag it off the menu onto the Desktop.. Hmm not as simple as before.. Still works O.K. Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
On 26 Mar 2002 21:48:21 -0800 Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read right: > The full title of this: > > The little operating system that could, and the little company that > couldn't. > > Meaning of course Linux, and Mandrake. > > I'm a newly disgruntled user. Don't mis-read that. I'm not a new user by > any means. I still have my RedHat 3.x disks on the shelf. I'm just newly > disgruntled. > > Why? > I'm tired of things that don't work "consistantly". > I'm tired of hostile "help lists" that love nothing more than to flame > anyone who dares to have a contradictory opinion. > I'm tired of the "partially finished" software, and having to argue over > the value of a much needed function, just because the DOD (Developer of > the Day) doesn't want to include it. > I'm tired of seeing an application with possibilities dissapear because > the developer graduated, and got a job. > > But mostly, I'm tired of paying more, and more for it all. And having > the distributors constantly stick their hand out for more. > > It used to be that Linux was openly free. It was meant to be that way. > But then the companies came in, and saw a way to make money from Linus' > child, and built distributions. Ok, distributions were a good thing. > Rolling your own was a bear! > > Even those used to be totally free. You were encouraged to download it. > They still are in a way. But now Mandrake is taking it upon themselves > to make you feel guilty for that, and even worse, making you a second > class citizen. > You can't get the same distributino from download, as you can by buying > a boxed set. You can't get StarOffice 6.0 without "Belonging to the > Club". Can't get this, can't get that. BAH! umm point to note Star Office 6.0 is a pay for play app. You can't get it for free. period. Somehow to include it they have to charge somewhere.. > > Seems to me that Linus' little "free" operating system is now costing as > much as windows, without the benefit of the off the shelf software. > > Don't believe me? Add it up. > > Average charge per new releass: > $69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year. $138.00 > Shipping: $15.00 per boxed set 30.00 > "The Club" > $10 per month x 12 > (Remember, you need to belong to the > $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0) 120.00 > - > Cost of Mandrake, per year: $288.00 > > Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of Mandrake > has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go down to the local > software store and buy a game for it. Or a business accounting package, > or a decent CD Label Printing Package. or > > Ok, yep, I'll keep running it, because I like it. I'm just disgruntled. > > If you all want to turn on the jets, and flame me for it, fine. I just > felt the need to share a few points that just fry me from time to time. > Thanks for listening. > > JMHO-YMMV > > Ric > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > So, all you guys enjoying Linux? Enjoying the benefits of Mandrake? > Great post, Lyvim. If not here, where would one go to share this kind of tyranny. I have already been watching this litigation as it has progressed. I am a member of EFF (Electronic Frontiers Foundation), and I have sent a letter to as many asshole politicians as I could find. I do hope we all become very active in this effort or we are fucked Thanks Lyvim for sharing with us all... -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No sound after 8.2 install
Stephen Boulet said onto me: Stephen> On Tuesday 26 March 2002 05:31 am, David wrote: Stephen> Stephen> > Is your card supported under alsa? Look in/lib/modules/%kernel Stephen> > version/alsa for a .gz file that is named after your sound card. There Stephen> > might be more than one that _may_ apply. Stephen> Stephen> Yes, it's there under alsa. Did you append the filename to your /etc/modules file? Stephen> Stephen> One thing I see is that in my boot.log file, there's the entry: Stephen>aumix: aumix: error opening mixer I _think_ this is from your sound driver module not being loaded. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Stephen> Stephen> Also, Stephen># ls /dev/dsp Stephen>ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory Well, /dev/dsp is a link to /dev/sound/dsp. My sys: [dave@kracker-jack dave]$ ls /dev/sound dmfm dmmidi dsp midi00 mixer sequencer sequencer2 Again, I think these will be created when the correct sound driver module is loaded at boot. hth Dave -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.2 Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Enlightenment 0.16.5Sylpheed 0.7.4claws David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
Brian Parish wrote: >Hang on Ric - I won't flame you, but I will correct your math. >StarOffice 6 comes IN the boxed set, so let's start by revising the >figures down to $168. Now we can flame accurately ;-) > >Brian > >On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 16:48, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > >>The full title of this: >> >>The little operating system that could, and the little company that >>couldn't. >> >>Meaning of course Linux, and Mandrake. >> >>I'm a newly disgruntled user. Don't mis-read that. I'm not a new user by >>any means. I still have my RedHat 3.x disks on the shelf. I'm just newly >>disgruntled. >> >>Why? >>I'm tired of things that don't work "consistantly". >>I'm tired of hostile "help lists" that love nothing more than to flame >>anyone who dares to have a contradictory opinion. >>I'm tired of the "partially finished" software, and having to argue over >>the value of a much needed function, just because the DOD (Developer of >>the Day) doesn't want to include it. >>I'm tired of seeing an application with possibilities dissapear because >>the developer graduated, and got a job. >> >>But mostly, I'm tired of paying more, and more for it all. And having >>the distributors constantly stick their hand out for more. >> >>It used to be that Linux was openly free. It was meant to be that way. >>But then the companies came in, and saw a way to make money from Linus' >>child, and built distributions. Ok, distributions were a good thing. >>Rolling your own was a bear! >> >>Even those used to be totally free. You were encouraged to download it. >>They still are in a way. But now Mandrake is taking it upon themselves >>to make you feel guilty for that, and even worse, making you a second >>class citizen. >>You can't get the same distributino from download, as you can by buying >>a boxed set. You can't get StarOffice 6.0 without "Belonging to the >>Club". Can't get this, can't get that. BAH! >> >>Seems to me that Linus' little "free" operating system is now costing as >>much as windows, without the benefit of the off the shelf software. >> >>Don't believe me? Add it up. >> >>Average charge per new releass: >>$69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year. $138.00 >>Shipping: $15.00 per boxed set 30.00 >>"The Club" >>$10 per month x 12 >>(Remember, you need to belong to the >> $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0) 120.00 >> - >>Cost of Mandrake, per year: $288.00 >> >>Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of Mandrake >>has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go down to the local >>software store and buy a game for it. Or a business accounting package, >>or a decent CD Label Printing Package. or >> >>Ok, yep, I'll keep running it, because I like it. I'm just disgruntled. >> >>If you all want to turn on the jets, and flame me for it, fine. I just >>felt the need to share a few points that just fry me from time to time. >>Thanks for listening. >> >>JMHO-YMMV >> >>Ric >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >> > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Ummm, _Either_ the boxed sets _OR_ the club will get you StarOffice and the non-free Apps. You do not need both. It takes about $3-4 million to make one of these distros and keep the security fixes rolling and tested, and we do ..eventually.. finish our tools, though we can make no guarantees about the tools being made by the community. Contrast that with $300 million or more for the "Other" Desktop system, which doesn't even make an effort to provide drivers, leaving that to the hardware people. And AFAIK, we are the distro that has a 3-CD free (as in speech) downloadable, without even Netscape. And that part of the distro is where the effort and expense goes. The commercial apps are developed by others, and a little time is spent integrating them as trialware. Open Office is pretty powerful and in the downloadable and free. Obviously, the expense of making the distro must be met. Consulting and club membership and direct sales are all part of that picture. As it now stands, I do believe SO 6 is going to be available from sun for a fee as well, for both Windows and linux and perhaps other platforms, but the data files will remain somethig human-readable so your data cannot be held hostage in a forever upgrade hell. Anyway, enough said. Your post suggests you do not understand the difference between free (libre) and free(gratuit) at all. Nor do you appreciate that this will all go away very soon if such laws as SSSCA actually pass. Linux, and building home computers, will both be outlawed. Freedom is not free. Pay for it in money or pay for it in the traditional manner, blood, toil, tears, and
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 04:06, J. Craig Woods wrote: > Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > > So, all you guys enjoying Linux? Enjoying the benefits of Mandrake? > > > > Great post, Lyvim. If not here, where would one go to share this kind of > tyranny. I have already been watching this litigation as it has > progressed. I am a member of EFF (Electronic Frontiers Foundation), and > I have sent a letter to as many asshole politicians as I could find. I > do hope we all become very active in this effort or we are fucked > > Thanks Lyvim for sharing with us all... Thanks, Craig. Good luck to you in your efforts, and it wouldn't hurt for me to get some good luck wishes in my activism, either. Your support appreciated, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] auto login on 8.2
Es Dimecres 27 Març 2002 04:35, en Dodd, David J va escriure: > I have just loaded 8.2 and so far it is working, got my orinoco card to > work without a hitch. One question though maybe I did this on > installation but when I boot up it auto logs into my user directory. > How do I change this so it will ask for a password. I looked in > userdrake and could not find it, is there anyway to change this in > terminal or do I use one of the gooie interface. In Mandrake control center, start (translated from spanish!), start options you can choose that. Also if security level is not set to lowest (in 8.2 called standard) you won't be able to boot x as a default user ;) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, softwaredevelopment]
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 03:56, David Guntner wrote: > Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > If you care, blast your senator with some firm emails and phone calls, > > plus get your friends to do it also. We can't let them take our rights > > away. I for one love Linux and Mandrake enough that I'm willing to > > Fight. > > E-Mail is largely ignored, and an ineffective way to petition most > representatives and senators. If you're going to petition them in a way > that will be noticed, you still need to send regular paper US mail. > > --Dave Dave, This had not occurred to me. Like most technical types, political activism is a new thing for me. I thank you for this advice; I will discuss this with the guys at the local ISP. Hopefully your input will generate even more influence. Best Regards, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] java "plugin" and mozilla 0.99 - OT
Old fart bad eyes. for reasons unkown I had it set to 20 . arrgh my apologies. James On 27 Mar 2002 03:11:08 -0300 Damian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read right: > El mié, 27-03-2002 a las 02:30, James escribió: > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 > > 10:27:19 -0700 > > Praedor Tempus > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote and hopefully > > I read right: > > > > > I both love and > > HATE mozilla. I > > have 0.99 installed > > and it works great, > > > especially with > > javascript-laden > > sites that instantly > > kill konqueror > > (happens > > > a LOT). I also > > have jre 1.3.1 > > installed. It > > works. > > > > > > How does one get > > mozilla to accept > > this fact? I > > visited a site that > > said I > > > needed the java 2 > > plugin for netscape > > in order to properly > > view said site. I > > > click to download > > the linux plugin > > which then proceeds > > to download a > > jre1.3.1 > > > plugin (REDUNDANT! > > I have the real jre > > installed!) and then > > after it is > > > done, it fails - I > > get a message that > > the plugin was not > > successfully > > > installed. > > Retarded mozilla, > > BAD mozilla! > > > > Had the same > > thing then > > suddenly one day > > poof it worked. AT > > 3am... seems that > > the site is > > overloaded with > > requests or > > something. Don't > > know. I could send > > you a copy of the > > files offline that > > are in my plugins > > directory... might > > work. > > > > James > > > > > > > > How does one go > > about forcing > > mozilla to actually > > use the real jre > > that is > > > properly installed > > and usable on one's > > system? I never > > want to see that > > > stupid "you need > > the java2 plugin" > > window ever again > > and I want mozilla > > to > > > use the > > full-real-existent > > jre I have > > installed. I cannot > > find a way to do > > > it in the crippled > > configuration/settings > > windows provided for > > mozilla. As a > > > matter of fact, I > > can't find any > > mention of anything > > java or javascript, > > for > > > that matter. > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > now THAT's what i call word wrapping >;oP > > Damian > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
On Wednesday 27 March 2002 08:05 am, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 22:47, J. Craig Woods wrote: > > Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of > > > Mandrake has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go > > > down to the local software store and buy a game for it. Or a > > > business accounting package, or a decent CD Label Printing > > > Package. or > > > > > > Ok, yep, I'll keep running it, because I like it. I'm just > > > disgruntled. > > > > > > If you all want to turn on the jets, and flame me for it, fine. > > > I just felt the need to share a few points that just fry me > > > from time to time. Thanks for listening. > > > > > > JMHO-YMMV > > > > > > Ric > > > > OK, Ric, you had your bitch. Do you feel any better? I must say > > you are mostly right but, what the hell, welcome to the world of > > Linux... > > I've been with Linux a long time. And I'll continue to stay. I > break out in a rash every time I need to walk up to a Windows box. > > Sometimes "junk" just builds up, and ya gotta dump it somewhere. > > And for the record: > I don't begrudge Mandrake the right to make their money. We all > help to that end when we buy the boxed sets. What got my goat was > when they started looking for hand-outs on top of what they already > get for paid support, and purchases of boxed sets. It looks like > buying the boxed set is no longer enough, but we all have to "join > the club" as well. I charge my customers too. But only once. > > But enough ranting. Sorry for disturbing everyone. I'll crawl back > into my cave now. > > And yeah, I feel better now. Thanks. > (gotta lay off that late night coffee...;) > > Ric Really I think that Mandrakesoft would do both themselves and their customers a favour if they made it clear whether club membership was intended to be an addition to buying boxed sets or a replacement. It does feel a bit like they want you to pay twice at the moment Regards Pete Ardnamurchan Scotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Host SMBus controller not enabled!??
Hello, I'm trying to get lm-sensors to work on a Compaq 5670 Desktop running Mandrake Cooker (kernel-2.4.18) with partial success. Modules identified with sensors_detect and loading OK are: i2c-dev 4096 0 (unused) i2c-voodoo3 2824 0 (unused) eeprom 3104 0 (unused) adm1021 5408 0 (unused) i2c-proc6496 0 [eeprom adm1021] tvaudio10080 1 (autoclean) tuner 8612 1 (autoclean) msp340014288 1 (autoclean) bttv 59776 0 (unused) i2c-algo-bit7244 3 [i2c-voodoo3 bttv] i2c-core 13568 0 [i2c-dev eeprom adm1021 i2c-proc tvaudio bttv tuner msp3400 i2c-algo-bit] videodev4896 3 [bttv] The only module that fails to load is: i2c-piix4.o Some of the modules are used by a Hauppauge WinTV card and the ones detected by sensors-detect are: i2c-piix4, i2c-voodoo3, eeprom, adm1021. I found nothing about this problem in the FAQ, and trying different BIOS settings did not change anything (The Compaq BIOS doe not have many options available). Thanks in advance, Svante Signell root> modprobe i2c-piix4 /lib/modules/2.4.18-7mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-piix4.o.gz: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-7mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-piix4.o.gz failed modprobe: insmod i2c-piix4 failed root>dmesg i2c-piix4.o version 2.6.2 (2008) i2c-piix4.o: Found PIIX4 device SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not enabled! i2c-piix4.o: Device not detected, module not inserted. root>lspci -v 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64 Memory at 4400 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 1.0 00:14.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:14.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64 I/O ports at 2420 [size=16] 00:14.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 03:56, David Guntner wrote: > > > > E-Mail is largely ignored, and is an ineffective way to petition most > > representatives and senators. If you're going to petition them in a way > > that will be noticed, you still need to send regular paper US mail. > > Dave, > > This had not occurred to me. Like most technical types, political > activism is a new thing for me. I thank you for this advice; I will > discuss this with the guys at the local ISP. Hopefully your input will > generate even more influence. Glad I was able to provide some useful information. Unfortunately, even though othe US congress is (slowly :) moving into the electronic age, they don't take as much note (if any, really) of E-Mail. It's easy to send, and they get tons of it - and it's just electrons on the screen. Paper mail, on the other hand, takes some effort to send and presents them with something physical. So it carries a lot more weight then E-Mail does. There's an online petition at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/SSSCA/ which I did "sign." But I also realize that it won't carry much weight (if any). So I just spent the last hour and a half tracking down addresses for my various reps and senators, and printing out letters to mail. :-) --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
Ric Tibbetts wrote: > On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 22:30, Brian Parish wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 16:48, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > Seems to me that Linus' little "free" operating system is now costing as > > > much as windows, without the benefit of the off the shelf software. > > > Don't believe me? Add it up. > > > Average charge per new releass: > > > $69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year. $138.00 > > > Shipping: $15.00 per boxed set 30.00 > > > "The Club" > > > $10 per month x 12 > > > (Remember, you need to belong to the > > > $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0) 120.00 > > > - > > > Cost of Mandrake, per year: $288.00 As others have said, either boxed or club for SO. > > > Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of Mandrake > > > has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go down to the local > > > software store and buy a game for it. Or a business accounting package, > > > or a decent CD Label Printing Package. or > > Hang on Ric - I won't flame you, but I will correct your math. > > StarOffice 6 comes IN the boxed set, so let's start by revising the > > figures down to $168. Now we can flame accurately ;-) > 6.0 is in the boxed set? > Are you sure about that? > Dang. Changes my whole formula. > Ok, so now it only costs as much as Win XP XP and W2K come with neither SO nor M$ Office, not ready for real work. Now add the price of Adobe Photoshop and you've doubled the cost. Plus, you get to buy XP and M$ Office for each and every motherboard, since the install will expire without submitting your vital statistics to M$ for permission to continue. Then you get the bonus of periodic required upgrades. Last, your virus enabled system will require you pay additionally, periodically, and through added system overhead to minimize your virus risk. OTOH, the open source choice is bundled with more apps than anyone will ever use, for which upgrades are optional, as with the OS. -- "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28 KJV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] high load average
Damian wrote: > > El mié, 27-03-2002 a las 00:30, David Savolainen escribió: > > hello all, > > Ever since I upgraded to 8.2, my load average will not drop below 1.00. > > >From what I have been able to determine, the load average is a measure > > of jobs in the run queue. What job could be permanently stuck in the run > > queue? How do I clear it (whatever "it" is) and bring things back to > > normal? ps does not seem to indicate anything continuously running. In > > fact, kapm-idled seems to be awol. Any ideas about what could be > > happening? > > > > Many thanks > > > > David > > it's probably a zombie/hung application. run kpm, top, gtop or whatever > task manager you like, sort processes by CPU time the are taking, > anything above 30% is high. so kill it and see what happens. > > anyway, note that prcesses that have the string " idle " in their names > are not necesarily taking up processor cycles. for example, if you > have a process taking 95% of CPU time called kernel-idle > ( just making the name up ) it just means that CPU is idle 95% > of it's time. > > HTH > > Damian > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Thanks for the response. When my system only has top and X running, the only processes using cpu cycles are top and X. The precent of cpu cycles usually stays below 1%. Although, Top always shows 1 process running. Shutting down X does not bring my load average below 1.00, so the culprit can't be X or an X app. Even when I have not apps of any kind running, my load aveage stays nailed at 1.00. Attached is the output of ps -aux. Maybe someone can see what I am missing. USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.1 1412 504 ?SMar26 0:06 init root 2 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [keventd] root 3 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [kapmd] root 4 0.0 0.0 00 ?SWN Mar26 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 5 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:02 [kswapd] root 6 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [bdflush] root 7 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [kupdated] root 8 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW< Mar26 0:00 [mdrecoveryd] root11 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [kreiserfsd] root65 0.0 0.2 1772 804 ?SMar26 0:00 devfsd /dev root 278 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [pagebuf_daemon] root 603 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [khubd] root 1020 0.0 0.1 1512 548 ?SMar26 0:01 syslogd -m 0 root 1029 0.0 0.2 2012 1020 ?SMar26 0:00 klogd -2 daemon1083 0.0 0.0 1436 284 ?SMar26 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd root 1206 0.0 0.4 4848 1880 ?SMar26 0:00 cupsd root 1340 0.0 0.1 4204 708 ?DMar26 0:00 /usr/sbin/amd -F /etc/amd.conf -a /net root 1378 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [rpciod] rpc 1395 0.0 0.1 1544 460 ?SMar26 0:00 portmap root 1468 0.0 0.1 1520 584 ?SMar26 0:00 /usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /misc file /etc/auto.misc root 1485 0.0 0.1 1520 580 ?SMar26 0:00 /usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /net program /etc/auto.net root 1599 0.0 0.1 1452 420 ?SMar26 0:00 gpm -t imps2 -m /dev/psaux root 1700 0.0 0.1 1620 608 ?SMar26 0:00 crond xfs 1741 0.0 1.3 6460 5156 ?SMar26 0:00 xfs -port -1 -daemon -droppriv -user xfs root 2030 0.0 0.3 2396 1296 tty1 SMar26 0:00 login -- david root 2031 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty2 SMar26 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2 root 2032 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty3 SMar26 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3 root 2033 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty4 SMar26 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4 root 2038 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty5 SMar26 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5 root 2039 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty6 SMar26 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6 david 2855 0.0 0.4 2788 1592 vc/1 SMar26 0:00 -bash david 2940 0.0 0.3 2420 1200 vc/1 SMar26 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/openwin/bin/startx david 2957 0.0 0.1 2268 640 vc/1 SMar26 0:00 xinit /home/david/.xinitrc -- -deferglyphs 16 root 2959 0.1 3.0 56724 11728 ? RMar26 0:35 /etc/X11/X :0 -deferglyphs 16 david 3053 0.0 0.0 24168 vc/1 SMar26 0:00 sh /home/david/.xinitrc david 3054 0.0 0.1 2976 652 vc/1 SMar26 0:01 /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 david 3159 0.0 0.2 2588 1140 vc/1 SMar26 0:00 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmButtons 7 4 /etc/X11/fvwm2/menu 0 8 david 3161 0.0 0.1 2604 732 vc/1 SMar26 0:00 /us
Re: [expert] setting monitor refresh rate from the CLI
On Wednesday 27 March 2002 01:25 am, J. Craig Woods wrote: > Larry Sword wrote: > > If you are setting up from a terminal I would suggest using > > xf86config. It will step you through the setup. > > > > Larry > > Where are you finding "xf86config"? Is this a binary file somewhere? I > am looking at 8.2, and I think the program is XFdrake. xf86config is one of many tools for configuring X. XFdrake is Mandrake specific, while xf86config, xconfigurator and a couple others are not. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] java "plugin" and mozilla 0.99 - OT
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:56:12PM -0800, James said: >X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) > Old fart bad eyes. for reasons unkown I had it set to 20 . > arrgh my apologies. > > James > > > now THAT's what i call word wrapping >;oP > > I usually see this when people are using PDA's to do their mail. For a while I thought you had Sylpheed running on Mandrake on a PDA :) :) Cheers, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
On 26 Mar 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > Average charge per new releass: > $69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year. $138.00 > Shipping: $15.00 per boxed set 30.00 > "The Club" > $10 per month x 12 > (Remember, you need to belong to the > $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0) 120.00 > - > Cost of Mandrake, per year: $288.00 Hi Ric: I know it seems wrong that what was once entirely free is now nickled and dimed to become seemingly as expensive as other offerings. I see it this way though: Cost of OS from CompUSA$30 US I don't buy every release, but have bought 7.2, 8.0, and 8.1. I have maybe 10 PCs throughout my house and business and this $30 is legally able to installed on every one of those. Windows allowed a desktop/laptop to be installed. WinXP has much greater restrictions. StarOffice, never bought it, but say it's $60. That's still comparable to the price of MS Works or other integrated packages. If you don't want to pay that much, how about OpenOffice or a combination of other packages such as AbiWord, Gnumeric, Kpresenter, etc.? Support? I have used Microsoft enterprise support contracts. At one time I got a very knowledgeable tech support person who fixed the problem within a few minutes (this for a weird Excel problem with a huge 20M spredsheet). Other times I was bounced around and told the problem was Oracle's, or Compaqs, or that weekly reboots were needed. Compare the price to WinXP Professional (the only way you'll get a comparable toolset and server suite) and you'll find that Mandrake is a lot cheaper. This is without even adding up the prices for similar tools such as a photo editor, development suite, etc.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:17:34AM -0800, David Guntner said: > Glad I was able to provide some useful information. Unfortunately, even > though othe US congress is (slowly :) moving into the electronic age, they > don't take as much note (if any, really) of E-Mail. It's easy to send, and > they get tons of it - and it's just electrons on the screen. Paper mail, > on the other hand, takes some effort to send and presents them with > something physical. So it carries a lot more weight then E-Mail does. > I've heard this said before and I am so tempted to test this by sending an e-mail and a snail mail saying that I would like to make a small donation to the congressman/senator and how would I go about doing it. If they don't respond to the e-mail, you know they're not reading it at all. :) > There's an online petition at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/SSSCA/ which I > did "sign." But I also realize that it won't carry much weight (if any). > So I just spent the last hour and a half tracking down addresses for my > various reps and senators, and printing out letters to mail. :-) > Another way is to call them up directly, identify yourself as a constituent and say you are registering your opposition to the proposed bill and would like to know what your senator/congressman's position is on it. Cheers, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 16:59:16 -0500, Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (0.8K bytes): > I just upgraded my machine from 8.1 to 8.2, and now whenever I try to > access a page on the webserver I get something like: > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access / on this server. > > It worked fine on 8.1. Is there something I need to change in the > apache configuration files? Hello, I'm subscribed to expert@ few weeks and I can't get out of wonder what the "EXPERT" mean. IMHO newbie@ is the proper list for over 50% questions on this expert@ list. I'm really disappointed. Best regards, Radek Svoboda RSC - Production -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Key: http://www.system.cz/keys/nico ID: 1024D/DDB284DE Key fingerprint: 8EA1 29E2 3F30 E4D6 C8E2 13C8 F1BC E3CA DDB2 84DE Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
hi lx im not american... i really cant help that much but ask my relatives (and their friends) in the US to send the snail mails or emails to their respective senators. and yeah, good luck to all of us. but come to think of it, there are already a lot of users using linux in the US (according to linux counter). if all these users there would unite, we might just have a chance. maybe if any of the companies you work for use linux and are happy with it, they can publish the CONs of passing such bills on big newspapers in your country. and run them even on entertainment magazines. well, thats just what my tiny brain can suggest :-) cheers, dianne --- Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> snipped<< > > If you care, blast your senator with some firm > emails and phone calls, > plus get your friends to do it also. We can't let > them take our rights > away. I for one love Linux and Mandrake enough that > I'm willing to > Fight. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Apache on 8.2
> -Original Message- > From: Radek Svoboda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I'm subscribed to expert@ few weeks and I can't get out of wonder > what the "EXPERT" mean. IMHO newbie@ is the proper list for over > 50% questions on this expert@ list. I'm really disappointed. I guess "expert" must refer to the level of answers given, not the questions asked. -- Dave Salovesh RAM Associates, Inc. (800) 543-3635 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
civileme wrote: > Anyway, enough said. Your post suggests you do not understand the > difference between free (libre) and free(gratuit) at all. Nor do you > appreciate that this will all go away very soon if such laws as SSSCA > actually pass. Linux, and building home computers, will both be outlawed. Hopefully, saner/wiser heads will prevail. I sent my protests in to my local congress people! > Freedom is not free. Pay for it in money or pay for it in the > traditional manner, blood, toil, tears, and sweat. And Freedom is what > it is about, not overwhelming the world's richest men, just assuring > that your computer belongs to _you_. > > Civileme Well spoken (and true)! -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pppd shutting down
> this is just from my bad memory, but I seem to remember a problem with some > 56k 3com modems (I don't have a 3 com myself so I barely remember this) about > certian chips having a problem about like you describe. must have been in > the list... my guess is about the time 7.1 came out tho... have you all > searched the archives way long ago (when your modem was new) for mention of > your model modem? that old archives might have disappeared. I think it gets > cured by flashing the modem, but like I say, it's spring here, and my mind > ain't what it used to be at least with this neighbor teenager skating > back in forth in front of the house in her bathing suit. > wow! Ed!! I feel your pain. it must really suck to be you. But thanks for the tip. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, softwaredevelopment]
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 03:56, David Guntner wrote: > Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > If you care, blast your senator with some firm emails and phone calls, > > plus get your friends to do it also. We can't let them take our rights > > away. I for one love Linux and Mandrake enough that I'm willing to > > Fight. > > E-Mail is largely ignored, and an ineffective way to petition most > representatives and senators. If you're going to petition them in a way > that will be noticed, you still need to send regular paper US mail. > > --Dave Dave, This had not occurred to me. Like most technical types, political activism is a new thing for me. I thank you for this advice; I will discuss this with the guys at the local ISP. Hopefully your input will generate even more influence. Best Regards, >LX > Absolutely, There is a letter going out from my house today! Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
> "Roger" == haaserd writes: Roger> In order to get the test-cgi script Roger> in cgi-bin to work, I had to modify the commonhttpd.conf Roger> setting to look like the 8.1 commonhttpd.conf settings: Roger> Roger> # Options -All -Multiviews Roger> Options FollowSymLinks Roger> AllowOverride None Roger> # Order deny,allow Roger> # Deny from all Roger> Thanks, this turns out to be the answer. I did the kosher thing and put it in httpd.conf. Now does someone want to explain to this relative newbie at apache configuration (although not at running linux) why the default commonhttpd doesn't allow access to the default root? The configuration as distributed does not work out of the box. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] VIA 8233a patch and 8.2 kernel compile problems
I have a motherboard with the new VIA vt8233a chip (which supports UDMA133).
This chip is not recognized by the the Mandrake 8.2 kernel code, so I have
only very slow disk access. I have gotten ahold of the 2.4.18 kernel patch
that should allow this chip to be recognized. However, I am having trouble
getting the Mandrake 8.2 (2.4.18) kernel to compile--with or without the
patch. I was hoping someone might be able to tell me what I am doing wrong.
When I applied the patch to the 2.4.18-mdk6 source and tried the kernel
compile, I got apparent compiler errors ("internal error: segmentation
fault"). To see if it was the patch, I then reverted all code and tried to
simply recompile the MDK kernel. Same problem (though in a different file).
In other words, I can't get Mandrake's kernel to compile. Why??
Here are the details on what I did in trying to simply recompile MDK kernel:
(1) made sure gcc was installed: gcc-2.96-0.76mdk
(2) made sure kernel source files were installed:
kernel-headers-2.4.18-25mdk and kernel-source-2.4.18-6mdk
(3) copied /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/defconfig to /usr/source/linux/.config
(4) make oldconfig
(5) make dep && make clean
(6) make bzImage
Runs for a while and then ends in some file with an error like:
tty_io.c: In function `release_dev':
tty_io.c:1277: Internal error: Segmentation fault.
Please submit a full bug report.
If I make changes to the .config or try using defconfig-enterprise, I can
change the file in which the seg fault occurs, but it always occurs. This is
how I understand to do the kernel compile--and I have rechecked Mandrake's
documentation (from 8.1). What am I doing wrong? Or is there something
wrong with MDK8.2 files?
Thanks for your help. I would really like to get the disk running at full
speed on this machine, and I am sure other people will start having issues
with this chip.
Norm
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Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
hi laura --- Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It says: > > [Mon Mar 25 17:56:06 2002] [error] [client > 209.245.100.140] client > denied by server configuration: /etc/httpd/htdocs > > Does that tell you what I should do? There is no > /etc/httpd/htdocs. seems that /etc/httpd/htdocs is the new DocumentRoot on the default config of the new version of apache on 8.2 ... it was /var/www/html on 8.1 apache. maybe you can try changing the DocumentRoot entry on /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf to /var/www/html and restart your apache. hth dianne __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] java "plugin" and mozilla 0.99
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:25:20 +0900 "J. Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > any1 get sodaplay.com to work on 0.99? it does not crash for me anymore, > but still dont work. > > JG > > > it works nice for me. i use java from www.blackdown.org bye jipe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root mail going to nobody user.
| Tim Holmes wrote: | Calm down and listen. My question was "is system mail for root going to | nobody". So the answer is | yes, not no. My apologies, I thought you were meant was ALL mail going to the nobody user. Misunderstood what you were saying. | | Tim are you sure? Indulge me, and run a "grep mailbox_command | /etc/postfix/main.cf", and post the output | here on the list. # grep mailbox_command /etc/postfix/main.cf # The mailbox_command parameter specifies the optional external # Unlike other Postfix configuration parameters, the mailbox_command #mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail #mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail -a "$EXTENSION" mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN # has precedence over the mailbox_command, fallback_transport and | > # Person who should get root's mail | > #root: marc | | uncomment the previous line to read | root: root I made that edit, and then ran newaliases, and the mail is STILL going to "nobody." It was a nice system, and once I edited /etc/aliases and then ran newaliases, it made /etc/postfix/aliases look just like /etc/aliases. On other machines on our network, that last line reads # Person who should get root's mail #root: marc And those machines get mail... Let me know! Thanks. tdh | | | I agree all looks good with your aliases files. Just make the one | correction and send your grep output. | We will whip this sucker... `--- -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] devfs and hdparm
I had the same problem and solved it by turning it around. On the kernel command line, disable all dma, then turn it on for the ide controllers that need it. I couldn't see any other way. Grub boot line: kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz-2.4.8-34.1mdk root=/dev/hda5 devfs=mount ide=nodma ide0=dma hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi gm On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:04:51AM -0600, Stephen Boulet wrote: > On Wednesday 27 March 2002 12:41 am, you wrote: > > Stephen Boulet wrote: > > > How do I execute the command: > > > > > > hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc > > > > > > with the devfs? I need to pass this to the cdwriter otherwise it has lots > > > of trouble reading CDs. > > > > I am not sure you can run an hdparm command on a cdrom drive. You can > > take the dma off the drive by doing so in bios > > Thanks. I'll try the bios thing. > > But I can verify that, on LM 8.1 with devfs disabled, hdparm worked fine on > the cdrw; it was actually necessary for reading. So there should be a way to > do it. > > In fact, trying to install an rpm from the cdrw now will lock up everything > hard, forcing a reboot. > > -- Stephen -- + Gregory H. Margo Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] a second different IP for the same net-card.
Hi List, A just start point would help me a lot. I think that Linux can support two different IPs for the same net-card. If right, can someone suggest me how to do it? Many thanks in advance. --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] a second different IP for the same net-card.
hi alan as root, try: #ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.100 up where eth0:1 is the 'aliased' NIC and xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the new ip. i believe aliased nics are supposed to be compiled on the kernel to make it work ... so far, all the mdk versions i used support it off the box. the main config file for the NIC is on /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0... i havent found a way to put another ip on the same card using config files, so i put the above command on the rc.local file to make it available upon boot up. hth dianne --- Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi List, > > A just start point would help me a lot. I think > that Linux can > support two different IPs for the same net-card. If > right, can someone > suggest me how to do it? > > Many thanks in advance. > > --- > Alan Wilter S. da Silva > --- > Laboratório de Física Biológica > Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho >Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ > Rio de Janeiro, Brasil > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
> Ummm, > > _Either_ the boxed sets _OR_ the club will get you StarOffice and the > non-free Apps. You do not need both. Thank you for clearing that one up. From a few comments made, there were others that were also confused about that one. > > It takes about $3-4 million to make one of these distros and keep the > security fixes rolling and tested, and we do ..eventually.. finish our > tools, though we can make no guarantees about the tools being made by > the community. Contrast that with $300 million or more for the "Other" > Desktop system, which doesn't even make an effort to provide drivers, > leaving that to the hardware people. Again, I don't begrudge Mandrakesoft the right to make money. That's why you start such a business in the first place. Also, the programmers "do" need to eat. I've long been a supporter, and will continue to buy the boxed sets (albeit, not all of them. I usually download the x.0, & x.1 type versions, and then buy the one that looks like it will be the last of the version. In this case, I'll be buying 8.2). It just looked like Mandrakesoft wanted us to not only buy the boxed sets, but to ALSO "join the club". I was balking a bit at that. Thank you for clearing that one up! > > Anyway, enough said. Your post suggests you do not understand the > difference between free (libre) and free(gratuit) at all. Nor do you > appreciate that this will all go away very soon if such laws as SSSCA > actually pass. Linux, and building home computers, will both be outlawed. I've already sent appropriate letters to the people involved voicing my opinion of this one. As should eveyone else! > > Freedom is not free. Pay for it in money or pay for it in the > traditional manner, blood, toil, tears, and sweat. And Freedom is what > it is about, not overwhelming the worlkd's richest men, just assuring > that your computer belongs to _you_. You *DO* have a way with words. ;) And I agree with you 100%! My original post was borne out of a late night frustration in dealing with a problem that shouldn't have existed. Just a nasty software glitch that shouldn't have existed. As I've said. I will continue to support Linux. It's the only OS that makes sense! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] a second different IP for the same net-card.
Awesome! A very fast reply, thank you very very much Dianne. It worked gracefully. On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > hi alan > > as root, try: > > #ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.100 up > > where eth0:1 is the 'aliased' NIC and xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > is the new ip. i believe aliased nics are supposed to > be compiled on the kernel to make it work ... so far, > all the mdk versions i used support it off the box. > > the main config file for the NIC is on > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0... i havent > found a way to put another ip on the same card using > config files, so i put the above command on the > rc.local file to make it available upon boot up. > > hth > dianne > > > > --- Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > A just start point would help me a lot. I think > > that Linux can > > support two different IPs for the same net-card. If > > right, can someone > > suggest me how to do it? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > --- > > Alan Wilter S. da Silva > > --- > > Laboratório de Física Biológica > > Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho > >Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ > > Rio de Janeiro, Brasil > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > MandrakeSoft? > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > > -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ACPI
Hello, I've just installed Mandrake 8.2 to my Compaq Presario 700AE laptop. Now I'm wondering how to configure acpid and print battery information. Any advices? +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--- | Lauri Lehtovaara [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound Advice: Favorite Audio Utils from the Experts
Recently on prompting from a friend I installed Realplayer version 8 and have been astounded by the number of international stations I can recieve. Besides Baldur's Gate 2 this is the most I've used my Aureal 8830 card of late! There are some talk shows I'd like to share with other friends (G.Gordon Liddy for one), but I'm frankly bewildered by the sheer number of sound utilities out there. It would be nice to record the data stream from the sound card off the mixer device (is that correct procedure?) to .wav or mp3. My question is, what are the programs that you guys have settled on as keepers? Is there a toolset out there for recording to wav or mp3 from the soundcard? Is there something with a pretty GTK or QT face? Thanks in advance! LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security issue in 8.2 msec?
hi oscar,
afaik, the DIRECTORY permission drwx--x--x would
permit you to go to that directory but you cant "see"
(r) or "write" (w) any files on it... however, if you
know a certain file exists there, though you cant see
it thru normal 'ls -l', you can "see" the file by
specifying the filename you know as argument.
cd /home/anotheruser
ls -l
** you will get permission denied or wont see anything
ls -l .bashrc
**since you know there would be a .bashrc there, the
command will show you that there is that file
existing there. dont confuse the "directory"
permission "x" with the "file" permission "x" ... they
are not the same.
for experiment, you can try 766 for /home ... with
that permission, you wont be able to go to the /home
directory. though "r" and "w" are defined, you wont be
able to write nor read anything on that dir because
you CANT get to it in the first place. doing ls -l
/home/user/.bashrc wont do you any good either. this
would show you the difference.
if you want people not to be able to see nor write
anything to that directory, the directory permission
should be 700... its equivalent to 766 (logically).
just sharing ...
dianne
--- Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Maybe it is a security issue, or may be I'm wrong.
> I'm running LM 8.2
> In msec 3 level ("more secure"), the folder
> permissions for /home/* is
> 711, in other words, drxw--x--x
> Then, as NOT root, I can do it, for example:
>
> *
>
> [oscar@localhost oscar]$ cd /home
> [oscar@localhost home]$ ls
> oscar anotheruser
> [oscar@localhost home]$ cat anotheruser/.bashrc
> # .bashrc
> # User specific aliases and functions
>
> # Source global definitions
> if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
> . /etc/bashrc
> fi
>
> *
>
> I think it is not secure, because I can see any file
> of other users if I
> know the name of the file.
>
> Now I'm running in msec 4 level. But I think we can
> edit
> /usr/share/msec/perm.3, put here a more logical
> permissions, and re-run
> 'msec 3'
>
> I hope that this information will be useful.
>
> oscar.
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> oo|
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>
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[expert] problems in 8.2?????
To The List: Re: Problems with installing 8.2 System: Franken-Puter, 300MHz AMD K6-2, 256 RAM, 20 Gig HD, ATI Rage-ProII Video MoBo = FIC VA 503-A Background: Redhat and Mandrake have always successfully installed, but other distros have always had problems due to some mobo config problems. Install: Successful, no problems. Conclusion: (My OWN opinion), Any install problems are most likely config problems which can be fixed ONLY on the local machine through editing of config files Secondary thoughts: I would love to see ALL distros with the kind of installation capabilities as M$. Perhaps one day it will happen. Peace, Dennis in Victoria Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
You know, I can sympathize. Not because the change is necessarily a bad thing, but more because of what the change represents. To me the shift signifies the beginning of the end of a wonderful era of camaraderie when the linux community worked together as one to develop the best product we could. The shift represents the realization that capitolism has enetered the linux frontier and the logical forgeone conclusion and fate of the era of camaraderie is the same as the fate of the American Buffalo. Capitolism is a great thing, but don't kid yourself it does have its downside. As far a the little operating system that could: Odyssey 7.2 [david@Nemesis david]$ uptime 12:46pm up 275 days, 22:26, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Ric Tibbetts wrote: > The full title of this: > > The little operating system that could, and the little company that > couldn't. > > Meaning of course Linux, and Mandrake. > > I'm a newly disgruntled user. Don't mis-read that. I'm not a new user by > any means. I still have my RedHat 3.x disks on the shelf. I'm just newly > disgruntled. > > Why? > I'm tired of things that don't work "consistantly". > I'm tired of hostile "help lists" that love nothing more than to flame > anyone who dares to have a contradictory opinion. > I'm tired of the "partially finished" software, and having to argue over > the value of a much needed function, just because the DOD (Developer of > the Day) doesn't want to include it. > I'm tired of seeing an application with possibilities dissapear because > the developer graduated, and got a job. > > But mostly, I'm tired of paying more, and more for it all. And having > the distributors constantly stick their hand out for more. > > It used to be that Linux was openly free. It was meant to be that way. > But then the companies came in, and saw a way to make money from Linus' > child, and built distributions. Ok, distributions were a good thing. > Rolling your own was a bear! > > Even those used to be totally free. You were encouraged to download it. > They still are in a way. But now Mandrake is taking it upon themselves > to make you feel guilty for that, and even worse, making you a second > class citizen. > You can't get the same distributino from download, as you can by buying > a boxed set. You can't get StarOffice 6.0 without "Belonging to the > Club". Can't get this, can't get that. BAH! > > Seems to me that Linus' little "free" operating system is now costing as > much as windows, without the benefit of the off the shelf software. > > Don't believe me? Add it up. > > Average charge per new releass: > $69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year. $138.00 > Shipping: $15.00 per boxed set 30.00 > "The Club" > $10 per month x 12 > (Remember, you need to belong to the > $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0) 120.00 > - > Cost of Mandrake, per year: $288.00 > > Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of Mandrake > has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go down to the local > software store and buy a game for it. Or a business accounting package, > or a decent CD Label Printing Package. or > > Ok, yep, I'll keep running it, because I like it. I'm just disgruntled. > > If you all want to turn on the jets, and flame me for it, fine. I just > felt the need to share a few points that just fry me from time to time. > Thanks for listening. > > JMHO-YMMV > > Ric > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root mail going to nobody user.
Tim Holmes wrote: > > > # grep mailbox_command /etc/postfix/main.cf > # The mailbox_command parameter specifies the optional external > # Unlike other Postfix configuration parameters, the mailbox_command > #mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail > #mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail -a "$EXTENSION" > mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN > # has precedence over the mailbox_command, fallback_transport and > Well well! Tim all you needed to do was to *READ* my first email on this thread. It is not the aliases file giving you the trouble. It is your main.cf that is incorrect. My first email to you clearly read that you must make sure that the "mailbox_command" parameter is set up correctly, and yours is *NOT*. NOW, take a look at what your "mailbox_command" in main.cf is reading. It clearly reads to deliver mail to the $DOMAIN. Does it specify a user? No. So let us try this one more time. Tim, change the mailbox_command to exactly this statement: mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -a $DOMAIN -d $LOGNAME restart master daemon: service postfix restart Try this: send some mail to root using mutt or pine (or whatever you like), and let us know what you see. -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
G. T. Francisco, III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:17:34AM -0800, David Guntner said: > > Glad I was able to provide some useful information. Unfortunately, even > > though othe US congress is (slowly :) moving into the electronic age, they > > don't take as much note (if any, really) of E-Mail. It's easy to send, and > > they get tons of it - and it's just electrons on the screen. Paper mail, > > on the other hand, takes some effort to send and presents them with > > something physical. So it carries a lot more weight then E-Mail does. > > I've heard this said before and I am so tempted to test this by sending > an e-mail and a snail mail saying that I would like to make a small donation > to the congressman/senator and how would I go about doing it. If they > don't respond to the e-mail, you know they're not reading it at all. :) See http://www.eff.org/congress.html#priority for information regarding this. The EFF makes it a *point* of knowing this stuff, since they have to deal with it on a regular basis. :-) > Another way is to call them up directly, identify yourself as a > constituent and say you are registering your opposition to the proposed > bill and would like to know what your senator/congressman's position is > on it. Yup. Again, see the above URL. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] re: Module Compile Errors in 2.4.18-6mdk
I am having the same problem. I cannot seem to get any modules compiled with my kernel. Even with only one module I get an error. I reduced my number of modules to zero and that was the only way to get a clean compile. Of course the kernel was huge, and useless. I won't have time to play with this again until the weekend, but I sure would like to fix this. I am using a brand new install of 8.2. I have the kernel source and headers installed. What gives? >Is anyone else having problems with this? Here is the output of my module compile: >P.S. It happens on more than one module, from more than one subsystem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Has anynone tried CrossOver Office?
Hello Has anyone tried CrossOver office on 8.2? I wonder whether it really works. Many thanks Ed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Module Compile Errors in 2.4.18-6mdk
This happened to me when I tried to compile a 2.4.18 Mandrake kernel on Mandrake 8.1 a little while back. I had downloaded and installed the kernel-source and kernel-headers RPMs from cooker (I think they were version 2.4.18-something and 2.4.17-something, respectively, at the time). I was baffled, until I removed the kernel-headers I had gotten from cooker and replaced them with the "production" RPM (which was 2.4.8-something then) and I no longer got the errors. Compile went smoothly. I can't say whether that was the right thing to do, but that's what I did. :) - Kathy On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 10:16, Andrew Carlson wrote: > Is anyone else having problems with this? Here is the output of my > module compile: > > P.S. It happens on more than one module, from more than one subsystem. > > In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:6, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/spinlock.h:39, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:11, > from ide-scsi.c:34: > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: parse error before `577f4bff' > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: `do_BUG_R_ver_str' declared as >function returning a function > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype > In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/spinlock.h:39, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:11, > from ide-scsi.c:34: > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:10: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:10: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:10: parse error before `1b7d4074' > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:11: `printk_R_ver_str' declared as >function returning a function > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:11: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype > In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/prefetch.h:13, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/list.h:6, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:12, > from ide-scsi.c:34: > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:51: warning: parameter names >(without types) in function declaration > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:51: field >`loops_per_jiffy_R_ver_str' declared as a function > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: parse error before `0657d037' > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:252: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:252: parse error before `7413793a' > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:252: warning: function >declaration isn't a prototype > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:256: warning: parameter names >(without types) in function declaration > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: missing white space after >number `7e9' > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: parse error before `7e9' > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: `kernel_thread_R_ver_str' >declared as function returning a function > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: warning: function >declaration isn't a prototype > In file included from ide-scsi.c:34: > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: parse error before `62dada05' > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: >`inter_module_register_R_ver_str' declared as function returning a function > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:184: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal > /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/includ
Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > > > seems that /etc/httpd/htdocs is the new DocumentRoot > on the default config of the new version of apache on > 8.2 ... it was /var/www/html on 8.1 apache. > > maybe you can try changing the DocumentRoot entry on > /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf to /var/www/html and > restart your apache. > > hth > dianne > Now that is strange. Dianne did you upgrade to 8.2 or do new install? I did a clean install, and DocumentRoot was set as per usual, "/var/www/html" in 8.2. BTW DocumentRoot should be specified in both files, commonhttpd.conf and httpd.conf. -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ACPI
Lauri Lehtovaara wrote: >Hello, > >I've just installed Mandrake 8.2 to my Compaq Presario 700AE laptop. Now >I'm wondering how to configure acpid and print battery information. Any >advices? > > > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--- > | Lauri Lehtovaara > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Yes, don't You may not fry your laptop (though some IBMs WILL) but the fact is the linux kernel doesn't support ACPI and you should turn it off. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
Radek Svoboda wrote: > > I'm subscribed to expert@ few weeks and I can't get out of wonder > what the "EXPERT" mean. IMHO newbie@ is the proper list for over > 50% questions on this expert@ list. I'm really disappointed. > > Best regards, > > Radek Svoboda > RSC - Production > Try about 90% of the questions. And hang around for awhile, you will learn to love it or you can just take off, with your disappointment, to another list -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[Fwd: Re: [expert] root mail going to nobody user.]
Well let's try this again... Original Message Subject: Re: [expert] root mail going to nobody user. Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:13:38 -0600 From: "J. Craig Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tim Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tim Holmes wrote: > > > # grep mailbox_command /etc/postfix/main.cf > # The mailbox_command parameter specifies the optional external > # Unlike other Postfix configuration parameters, the mailbox_command > #mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail > #mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail -a "$EXTENSION" > mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN > # has precedence over the mailbox_command, fallback_transport and > Well well! Tim all you needed to do was to *READ* my first email on this thread. It is not the aliases file giving you the trouble. It is your main.cf that is incorrect. My first email to you clearly read that you must make sure that the "mailbox_command" parameter is set up correctly, and yours is *NOT*. NOW, take a look at what your "mailbox_command" in main.cf is reading. It clearly reads to deliver mail to the $DOMAIN. Does it specify a user? No. So let us try this one more time. Tim, change the mailbox_command to exactly this statement: mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -a $DOMAIN -d $LOGNAME restart master daemon: service postfix restart Try this: send some mail to root using mutt or pine (or whatever you like), and let us know what you see. -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Problems with sshd
All, my gateway box just started this one. It refuses all ssh connections from every box but intself. (outside or inside the network) The only error message is fatal: xfree: NULL POINTER given as argument. X isn't installed on this box. ssh_config and sshd_config both have X11 forwarding disabled. I've sshd into about 3 boxes outside my net and from 3 boxes inside all give the same error... Even a windwoze box. The only way to ssh into the box is from the webmin java applet... That gets in fine. Any Ideas where to look? I haven't made any changes in config on this box in weeks and it just started this crap today. Heck I even tried a windows fix reboot. that didn't get it. All else works fine. Traffic flows. I currently Running openssh-2.1.1p4-1 openssh-clients-2.1.1p1-1 openssh-askpass-2.1.1-p4-1 openssh-server-2.1.1p4-1 kernel 2.2.19 ipchains NAT Dual nic (3com internal tulip external) out of hair. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
David Rankin wrote: >You know, > >I can sympathize. Not because the change is necessarily a bad thing, but >more because of what the change represents. To me the shift signifies the >beginning of the end of a wonderful era of camaraderie when the linux >community worked together as one to develop the best product we could. The >shift represents the realization that capitolism has enetered the linux >frontier and the logical forgeone conclusion and fate of the era of >camaraderie is the same as the fate of the American Buffalo. Capitolism is a >great thing, but don't kid yourself it does have its downside. > >As far a the little operating system that could: > >Odyssey 7.2 > >[david@Nemesis david]$ uptime > 12:46pm up 275 days, 22:26, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > Ummm, was that ever more than a myth? Look at the sniping posts here and the marketing employed by some linux firms and the gathering of people who say, "The best of this distro should be moved to xxxyyyzz distro where my favorite tool wronk-gronk is available," or atr the folks who see a problem reported on the newbie list who say "Works on Boozer linux" when in fact it might work for the poster but I have probably seen reports from Boozer users who say it doesn't work for them. (USB is a good example). Or look at the posts here and on MandrakeForum which come out right around release time to poison the release like Is this LSB compatible, yet? (when in fact no distro can really claim to be because the official test software for compatibility isn't even official yet--still beta-- and the sniping of our "incompatibility" is in the "gray areas" of the Filesystem Hierarchical Standard where no clear direction is given and the interpretation of the other distros is probably as equally valid as ours and all different) or Is the situation with left-handed gronklies being mistreated by bash fixed? (when in fact it was never broken) Camaraderie? Try to post something favoring GNOME or favoring KDE on Mandrakeforum and watch the list moderators go into a frenzy to keep the forum civil, usually by having to delete posts. We don't do that unless things get way too personal. Well, we're not here to fight FUD with FUD, which is why I carefully did not name distros. But I would say Microsoft has taught us all too well how to market our product at others expense rather than on its own merits. As for the free linux--it is still out there and can likely never be killed. It is an alternative to the other OS only for very skilled people, though. The purpose of most distros are to allow the folks with less skill than that a chance at freedom, certainly not to make the principals wealthy. Mandrake has been fortunate to have some oof the best engineers in the world, folks who make me look on in awe, folks who could be making triple what they are almost anywhere else. But they came to Mandrake to work on free software. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] high load average
David, it may be a kernel process that's hung up somewhere. Having just had my machine doing weird things with load, check and see if you have chkrootkit installed - it hung my machine for quite some time for no apparent reason. Other than that, send a ps -ef it shows everything. Maybe with a little analysis something will come up. Regards, Angus Beath On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 22:43, David Savolainen wrote: > Damian wrote: > > > > El mié, 27-03-2002 a las 00:30, David Savolainen escribió: > > > hello all, > > > Ever since I upgraded to 8.2, my load average will not drop below 1.00. > > > >From what I have been able to determine, the load average is a measure > > > of jobs in the run queue. What job could be permanently stuck in the run > > > queue? How do I clear it (whatever "it" is) and bring things back to > > > normal? ps does not seem to indicate anything continuously running. In > > > fact, kapm-idled seems to be awol. Any ideas about what could be > > > happening? > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > David > > > > it's probably a zombie/hung application. run kpm, top, gtop or whatever > > task manager you like, sort processes by CPU time the are taking, > > anything above 30% is high. so kill it and see what happens. > > > > anyway, note that prcesses that have the string " idle " in their names > > are not necesarily taking up processor cycles. for example, if you > > have a process taking 95% of CPU time called kernel-idle > > ( just making the name up ) it just means that CPU is idle 95% > > of it's time. > > > > HTH > > > > Damian > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Thanks for the response. > When my system only has top and X running, the only processes using cpu > cycles are top and X. The precent of cpu cycles usually stays below > 1%. Although, Top always shows 1 process running. Shutting down X does > not bring my load average below 1.00, so the culprit can't be X or an X > app. Even when I have not apps of any kind running, my load aveage > stays nailed at 1.00. Attached is the output of ps -aux. Maybe someone > can see what I am missing. > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND > root 1 0.0 0.1 1412 504 ?SMar26 0:06 init > root 2 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [keventd] > root 3 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [kapmd] > root 4 0.0 0.0 00 ?SWN Mar26 0:00 > [ksoftirqd_CPU0] > root 5 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:02 [kswapd] > root 6 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [bdflush] > root 7 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 > [kupdated] > root 8 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW< Mar26 0:00 > [mdrecoveryd] > root11 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 > [kreiserfsd] > root65 0.0 0.2 1772 804 ?SMar26 0:00 devfsd > /dev > root 278 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 > [pagebuf_daemon] > root 603 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [khubd] > root 1020 0.0 0.1 1512 548 ?SMar26 0:01 syslogd > -m 0 > root 1029 0.0 0.2 2012 1020 ?SMar26 0:00 klogd -2 > daemon1083 0.0 0.0 1436 284 ?SMar26 0:00 > /usr/sbin/atd > root 1206 0.0 0.4 4848 1880 ?SMar26 0:00 cupsd > root 1340 0.0 0.1 4204 708 ?DMar26 0:00 > /usr/sbin/amd -F /etc/amd.conf -a /net > root 1378 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar26 0:00 [rpciod] > rpc 1395 0.0 0.1 1544 460 ?SMar26 0:00 portmap > root 1468 0.0 0.1 1520 584 ?SMar26 0:00 > /usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /misc file /etc/auto.misc > root 1485 0.0 0.1 1520 580 ?SMar26 0:00 > /usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /net program /etc/auto.net > root 1599 0.0 0.1 1452 420 ?SMar26 0:00 gpm -t > imps2 -m /dev/psaux > root 1700 0.0 0.1 1620 608 ?SMar26 0:00 crond > xfs 1741 0.0 1.3 6460 5156 ?SMar26 0:00 xfs -port > -1 -daemon -droppriv -user xfs > root 2030 0.0 0.3 2396 1296 tty1 SMar26 0:00 login -- > david > root 2031 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty2 SMar26 0:00 > /sbin/mingetty tty2 > root 2032 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty3 SMar26 0:00 > /sbin/mingetty tty3 > root 2033 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty4 SMar26 0:00 > /sbin/mingetty tty4 > root 2038 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty5 SMar26 0:00 > /sbin/mingetty tty5 > root 2039 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty6 SMar26 0:00 > /sbin/mingetty tty6 > david 2855 0.0 0.4 2788 1592 vc/1 SMar26 0:00 -bash > david 2940 0.0 0.3 2420 1200 vc/1 SMar26
[expert] msec and xsane
Hi everyone, I just checked the newbie and expert lists, and couldn't find anything that answered this question... I just installed Mandrake 8.2, but kept my previous Mdk 8.1 /home partition. I used to have xsane working, and I ran scannerdrake and I can't seem to get the scanner working with msec on "Higher. I haven't figured out as of yet what the problem is, but I was suspecting it's something that has to do with permissions because: - regardless what msec is set to, if I run sane-find-scanner as root, my scanner is found at /dev/sg0 - if I set the security settings to "standard" everything works (i.e. xsane works too) It will also work if I set msec to "High" - if I set it back to higher, although I can "find" the scanner with sane-find-scanner as root, I cannot open xsane (even as root) because "xsane: no devices available". Where could I make the permissions change to enable the scanner for all users, but keep the system on msec "Higher"? Thanks in advance! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setting monitor refresh rate from the CLI
Bill Davidson wrote: > > On Wednesday 27 March 2002 01:25 am, J. Craig Woods wrote: > > Larry Sword wrote: > > > If you are setting up from a terminal I would suggest using > > > xf86config. It will step you through the setup. > > > > > > Larry > > > > Where are you finding "xf86config"? Is this a binary file somewhere? I > > am looking at 8.2, and I think the program is XFdrake. > > xf86config is one of many tools for configuring X. XFdrake is Mandrake > specific, while xf86config, xconfigurator and a couple others are not. > > Bill > Gotcha, and thanks, Bill -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
hi --- "J. Craig Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > > > > > > seems that /etc/httpd/htdocs is the new > DocumentRoot > > on the default config of the new version of apache > on > > 8.2 ... it was /var/www/html on 8.1 apache. > > maybe you can try changing the DocumentRoot entry > on > > /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf to /var/www/html > and > > restart your apache. > > > > hth > > dianne > > > > Now that is strange. Dianne did you upgrade to 8.2 > or do new install? I > did a clean install, and DocumentRoot was set as per > usual, > "/var/www/html" in 8.2. nope, i havent installed 8.2 yet. im still on 8.1. i got the idea from Laura's apache error log (refer to the text before mine on that post) > BTW DocumentRoot should be specified in both files, > commonhttpd.conf and > httpd.conf. i beg to disagree ... on mandrake apache rpms, you dont have to specify the DocumentRoot on its httpd.conf, it is specified on commonhttpd.conf which is called by httpd.conf file as an Include item. if you meant specifying DocumentRoot on the httpd.conf of a GNU-layout compiled apache, then i would agree on specifying DocumentRoot on httpd.conf ... cause there is no commonhttpd.conf. i usually dont have commonhttpd.conf on my own-compiled apaches because i dont use RH layout. cheers, dianne > > -- > J. Craig Woods > UNIX/NT Network/System Administration > > -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
"J. Craig Woods" wrote: > > Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > > > > > > seems that /etc/httpd/htdocs is the new DocumentRoot > > on the default config of the new version of apache on > > 8.2 ... it was /var/www/html on 8.1 apache. > > > > maybe you can try changing the DocumentRoot entry on > > /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf to /var/www/html and > > restart your apache. > > > > hth > > dianne > > > > Now that is strange. Dianne did you upgrade to 8.2 or do new install? I > did a clean install, and DocumentRoot was set as per usual, > "/var/www/html" in 8.2. > > BTW DocumentRoot should be specified in both files, commonhttpd.conf and > httpd.conf. Excellent catch! We just did an upgrade of one ML 8.1 machine and experienced the same problems with Apache. A look in the /etc/httpd/conf/ has the old files and the new files for the new install. The configuration files for the new installation (Upgrade) are identified as httpd.conf.rpmnew and httpd-perl.conf.rpmnew. Saving the old config files and renaming the *.rpmnew files to the correct httpd.conf and httpd-perl.conf corrects the problem. Changes to the commonhttpd.conf was not required. Thanks Larry -- Sword'sEdge VoiceMail/Fax: (866) 841-9142 x9753 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] The little operating system that could
- Original Message - From: civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [expert] The little operating system that could > > Is this LSB compatible, yet? > (when in fact no distro can really claim to be because the official test > software for compatibility isn't even official yet--still beta-- and the > sniping of our "incompatibility" is in the "gray areas" of the > Filesystem Hierarchical Standard where no clear direction is given and > the interpretation of the other distros is probably as equally valid as > ours and all different) > How is that not a valid question? Perhaps the answer is not simple or easy or comfortable, but yours seems adequate. So why is asking this question a problem? Is it wrong to ask questions? How would a legitimate question, if properly answered, "poison" the release? >Mandrake has been fortunate to have some oof the >best engineers in the world, folks who make me look on in awe, folks who >could be making triple what they are almost anywhere else. > >But they came to Mandrake to work on free software. And aren't they? You seem to impy (I may be wrong) that their time is wasted dealing with uncomfortable questions and incorrect and outrageous opinions. Somebody at Mandrake has to deal with that and IMHO the software engineers are probably the worst suited for that purpose as they usually lack the skills and temperment for that kind of work. However, that kind of work seems to come with the territory. Mandrake supplies one of the top Linux distros in the world. That's no accident; it comes from good development. But it seems to me that they are leaving management in the hands of people not well suited for it. That's where the problem lies. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] nss_ldap slightly broken (Mandrake should fix)
Hi Everyone,
Before some else gets tripped up.. In Mandrake 8.2 it's nss_ldap is
slightly broken, where it does not give out a list of supplementary
groups which the user is also a member of. This was working with
Mandrake 8.1, so I grabbed Src rpm (nss_ldap-173-1mdk.src.rpm) and
investigated.. after checking the SPEC file I re-enabled
--enable-rfc2307bis --enable-ids-uid for nss_ldap and everything works
O.K. I think this is a rather important feature for Mandrake to enable,
as it's how it's own userdrake and directory_administrator would
configure a LDAP server to contain passwords, ids, and groups with this
feature enabled
Below is the output of the diff command on the nss_ldap.spec file
Cheers
Mark
@@ -75,10 +75,9 @@
%serverbuild
# Build nss_ldap.
aclocal && automake && autoheader && autoconf
-%configure --with-ldap-lib=openldap --enable-schema-mapping
--enable-debug
-%__make INST_UID=`id -u` INST_GID=`id -g`
+%configure --with-ldap-lib=openldap --enable-schema-mapping
--enable-debug --enable-rfc2307bis --enable-ids-uid
+%__make INST_UID=`id -u` INST_GID=`id -g`
-# --enable-rfc2307bis --enable-ids-uid
# Build pam_ldap.
pushd pam_ldap-%{pam_ldap_version}
touch NEWS
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Re: [expert] Apache on 8.2
Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > > i beg to disagree ... on mandrake apache rpms, you > dont have to specify the DocumentRoot on its > httpd.conf, it is specified on commonhttpd.conf which > is called by httpd.conf file as an Include item. > Your version must be different from mine. I have DocumentRoot specified in http.conf, and have it commented out in commonhttpd.conf. I do *have* to have it specified in "httpd.conf" or else it will not work. But you seem to be saying that it must be specified in *one* of these files, and, if that is what you are saying, you are right but you are inaccurate in saying it must be in the commonhttpd.conf file. I, also, was less than accurate in making a statement that read as though both files must have DocumentRoot specified. In fact, commonhttpd.conf clearly reads "DO NOT MODIFY THIS ONE, USE httpd.conf" for the DocumentRoot entry. Thanks for your edification on this issue... -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux Laptop pcmcia troubles
On Monday 25 March 2002 10:38 pm, you wrote: > Hi listmembers, > i was hoping someone out there might be able to help me with this > I have installed MDK8.0 on a compaq armada 7400 ,everything wors fine > ,except for the nic a pcmcia D-Link-660+ , > when I try to configure the network I get > "insmod'ing module tlan failed at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line510 > below is the output from a modprobe tlan > #modprobe tlan > /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/tlan.o.gz: init_module: No such > device > Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including > invalid IO or IRQ parameters > /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/tlan.o.gz: insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/tlan.o.gz failed > /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/tlan.o.gz: insmod tlan failed > > I think I must be pretty close ,sounds to me like a conflict ,but i have no > idea how to goabout fixing it . > thanks in advance > Jason Try: modprobe tulip Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the file system
Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the file system? any issues with NFS when using either of the file system? We are running here with ext3, but nothing is being said which would be a better choice.. Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
Civileme wrote a nice piece on this either here or on newbie a few weeks back. His answer: XFS Basically the reasoning came down to: XFS and Reiser are pretty much line ball on performance with ext3 a distant 3rd and XFS is simpler and probably a bit more stable. Good enough for me. I'm using XFS, have installed it on several customers' machines and have had no reason to regret the choice. Just works. Brian On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 14:19, Mark Williamson wrote: > Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the file system? any > issues with NFS when using either of the file system? We are running > here with ext3, but nothing is being said which would be a better > choice.. > > Cheers > Mark > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I sure wish I had nothing to do but fight all this crap. It's too bad that we can't expect our politicians to do the right thing. It seems that we have to fight all the time. But, it's going to take more than 1 Congressman to do something like this. On Wednesday 27 March 2002 01:25 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > So, all you guys enjoying Linux? Enjoying the benefits of Mandrake? > > Well, enjoy it while you can, because if Democrat Fritz Hollings > (Senator, South Carolina, lobbied via $300,000 USD from the > Entertainment Industry) has his way, this bill will get passed and Open > Source could be a thing of the past. It's also noteworthy that Hollings > has accepted lobby money from Microsoft. He withdrew South Carolina's > objections to the M$ DOJ settlement sellout after he got that money. Go > figure. > > That's right, they are attempting to take you rights to run open source > away at the moment, as we speak. At the very least, regulate the hell > out of it via the government. My suggestion is that if you are concerned > enough about your rights, that you get angry and active. > > A good place to start is to check out the links below in the below from > the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the forwarded message from the > bugtraq list. Things you can do: > > http://lwn.net/daily/eff-cbdtpa.php3 > > Also get up to speed with the articles about this on wired.com, for > instance this one: > > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51274,00.html > > This affects everybody unilaterally, and unless people become proactive > and oppose the Democrats and their apocalyptic police state laws, the > face of the computer industry will *become* a police state. > > If you care, blast your senator with some firm emails and phone calls, > plus get your friends to do it also. We can't let them take our rights > away. I for one love Linux and Mandrake enough that I'm willing to > Fight. > > Excerpt from: http://lwn.net/daily/eff-cbdtpa.php3 > > Begin Excerpt-- > > ALERT: CONGRESS CALLS FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON DIGITAL MUSIC ISSUES > > SUBMIT COMMENTS OPPOSING TECHNOLOGY MANDATES > > (Issued: Friday, March 22, 2002 / Deadline: Monday, April 8, 2002) > > Introduction: > > Imagine a world where all digital media technology is either mandatory > or forbidden -- Senator Fritz Hollings and a cabal of Hollywood > entertainment interests are cooking up a set of laws aimed at conjuring > this apocalyptic world into existence. > > Today, Senator Hollings introduced the alarming Consumer Broadband and > Digital Television Promotion Act (CBDTPA), which will give Hollywood > plutocrats the power to stall new digital media technologies for a year, > negotiating a phony "consensus" at lawyer-point with technologists. This > "consensus" will receive the force of law, prescribing which > user-hostile features are mandatory and which innovative features are > forbidden. CBDTPA is derived from the draft SSSCA (Security Systems & > Standards Certification Act), the subject of our last alert. > > Both the House and the Senate have called for comments on the future of > digital music, an issue that is deeply entwined with technology > mandates. > > What YOU Can Do Now: > > This is YOUR chance to voice your opposition to laws that make all > digital media technology mandatory or forbidden. > > * Send the EFF letter below to both the House and the Senate. Feel free > to use this letter verbatim, or modify it as you wish. Please be polite > and concise, but firm. > > --End Excerpt- > > > > ALERT SENT OUT ON BUGTRAQ MAILING LIST: > > -Forwarded Message- > > From: Jon O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development > Date: 22 Mar 2002 14:24:48 -0800 > > > As we are all aware, bugtraq is not a forum to discuss > political issues or laws. However, with the continued > goverment pressure and attempts to reform and regulate > the hardware and software industries, bugtraq readers > should be informed and aware of these new laws which will > no doubt impact all of us. > > > Senator Hollings is attempting to regulate hardware and software > development. The bill can be reviewed here: > http://cryptome.org/broadbandits.htm > > Concerned software developers can submit comments here: > http://judiciary.senate.gov/special/input_form.cfm?comments=1 > > You can review other peoples comments here: > http://judiciary.senate.gov/special/input_form.cfm > > The following senators also support this Bill: > Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), > John Breaux (D-Louisana) and Dianne Feinstein (D-California). > > There is a mailing list discussing these issues here: > http://lists.microshaft.org/mailman/listinfo/dmca_discuss > > > - Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > > As a bonus, here's a section-by-section summary of the bill: > http://www.wired.com/news/poli
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
Brian Parish wrote: > > Civileme wrote a nice piece on this either here or on newbie a few weeks > back. His answer: XFS > > Basically the reasoning came down to: XFS and Reiser are pretty much > line ball on performance with ext3 a distant 3rd and XFS is simpler and > probably a bit more stable. > > Good enough for me. I'm using XFS, have installed it on several > customers' machines and have had no reason to regret the choice. Just > works. > > Brian > > On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 14:19, Mark Williamson wrote: > > Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the file system? any > > issues with NFS when using either of the file system? We are running > > here with ext3, but nothing is being said which would be a better > > choice.. > > > > Cheers > > Mark > > > > I believe Civilme's exact words on Ext3 were: An abortion waiting to happen. I quoteth. ;p Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Abiword & MDK-8.2
Hello: I can't find Abiword in MDK-8.2 download version. I've tried to install latest cooker *.src.rpm but compilation gives me errors. Finally, I tried to install the rpm binaries from the project home page. Again got errors: "libpng.so.2 is needed". Has someone got installed the latest version of Abiword in MDK-8.2? Fedneg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 21:19, Mark Williamson wrote: > Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the file system? any > issues with NFS when using either of the file system? We are running > here with ext3, but nothing is being said which would be a better > choice.. I don't know if there are outstanding NFS issues with ReiserFS, but I can tell you from personal experience, Reiser is quite a bit faster than Ext3 on the systems I have tried. The only reason I would use Ext3 is if I already had the system on Ext2 and wanted to convert it without doing a backup/restore of the partition. Starting with a fresh install or new partition, I would use Reiser. -- Dave Sherman Beware the wrath of dragons, MCSE, MCSA, CCNAfor you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. "lynx -source http://sildara.dyndns.org/davepub.key | gpg --import" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] Abiword & MDK-8.2
El mar, 26-03-2002 a las 15:01, Fedneg escribió: > Hello: > > I can't find Abiword in MDK-8.2 download version. I've tried to install > latest cooker *.src.rpm but compilation gives me errors. Finally, I > tried to install the rpm binaries from the project home page. Again got > errors: "libpng.so.2 is needed". > Has someone got installed the latest version of Abiword in MDK-8.2? > > > Fedneg go to a linux-mandrake mirror. inside the Mandrake directory, go into 8.1 then /Mandrake/RPMS and download the libpng2 rpm. install it, and you will be out of problems. note that this library is not included in mandrake 8.2 but is still needed by some applications, such as the opera web browser. there have been several threads about this recently. search the list archives for "opera 8.2 libpng" and you will find them. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Opera on Mandrake 8.2
Dany Allard said onto me: Dany> First of all, great job on Mandrake 8.2! Dany> My install was flawless and the most applications are running perfectly. Dany> Dany> A quick question, has anyone got Opera 6.0b1 to work on Mandrake 8.2? Uh, yeah. If you're having a problem, maybe you should give more info. Did you get in installed, and it just not _run_ after that? Or what? The only hitch I had was a failed depcheck for libpng2. Which I installed, and now it runs fine, and fast too BTW. Dany> Thanks Dany> Dany> Dany Allard HTH -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.2 Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Enlightenment 0.16.5Sylpheed 0.7.4claws David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
FemmeFatale wrote: > > > I believe Civilme's exact words on Ext3 were: An abortion waiting to > happen. I quoteth. ;p > > Femme > -- Like so many different variations on your machine, filesytems should be made with reference to as many criteria as possible. Yes, speed is good but what if you go for speed and lose some function you might need? As a SA there are times I need to set file attributes. You know, a file gets deleted that should not have been deleted, etc. With file attribs, I have saved by butt many times. Ext3 will let me set file attributes, and reiserfs does not support them. My choice is not choice: I must go with ext2 or ext3. The bottom line is make choices based on what you need... -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sensor readings
Brian Parish wrote: >After having followed the: > >What would cause system to just stop? > >thread I finally got around to getting sensors going on my main box. >The output I get is: > >eeprom-i2c-0-52 >Adapter: SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 >Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter > >eeprom-i2c-0-53 >Adapter: SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 >Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter > >via686a-isa-6000 >Adapter: ISA adapter >Algorithm: ISA algorithm >CPU core: +1.74 V (min = +1.79 V, max = +2.18 V) ALARM >+2.5V: +2.68 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.03 V) >I/O: +3.47 V (min = +3.03 V, max = +3.36 V) ALARM >+5V: +4.94 V (min = +4.60 V, max = +5.07 V) >+12V: +11.80 V (min = +11.03 V, max = +12.16 V) >CPU Fan: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM, div = 2) >P/S Fan: 4560 RPM (min =0 RPM, div = 2) ALARM >SYS Temp: +35.6°C (limit = +146°C, hysteresis = +50°C) >CPU Temp: +53.1°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) >SBr Temp: +20.9°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C > > > >Now I'm not that worried by the CPU fan reading as I can assure you that >it's going a bit quicker than that, but the ALARMs are a bit - >well...alarming. Tom and/or Civileme and/or any other hardware heads - >any comments? The system is as follows: > >AMD 1600+ processor running at bog standard default settings >Abit KG7 mobo >Nice big heatsink, but just a thermal pad - no grease (built the system >before reading the "use grease" advice) >512MB DDR RAM >64Mb nVidia graphics card >Huge tower case but with only 2 fans in addition to the cpu and mobo >coolers - one in the front and the one in the power supply. > >The system is stable, but why should I let that worry me right? > >TIA >Brian > > It's normal. Should read CPU specs for voltages, the limits are usually wrong(at least on both systems on which I tested sensors). Here's what I get on the older one: Adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter at 5000 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter Memory type:SDRAM DIMM SPD SDRAM Size (MB):128 w83781d-isa-0290 Adapter: ISA adapter Algorithm: ISA algorithm VCore 1: +2.72 V (min = +2.27 V, max = +2.52 V) ALARM VCore 2: +1.47 V (min = +2.27 V, max = +2.52 V) ALARM +3.3V: +3.45 V (min = +3.13 V, max = +3.45 V) +5V: +4.89 V (min = +4.72 V, max = +5.24 V) +12V: +12.01 V (min = +11.36 V, max = +12.58 V) -12V: -12.10 V (min = -11.33 V, max = -12.55 V) -5V: -4.86 V (min = -4.74 V, max = -5.24 V) ALARM fan1: 4963 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) fan2:0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM fan3:0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM temp1: +28°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) temp2: +32.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) temp3: +33.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) vid: +2.40 V The -5V gets as high as -4.71 from time to time, which is not perfect, but it works. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Module Compile Errors in 2.4.18-6mdk
I do, but unless someone posts the .config its probably near impossible to find a solution. Andrew Carlson wrote: >Is anyone else having problems with this? Here is the output of my >module compile: > >P.S. It happens on more than one module, from more than one subsystem. > >In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:6, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/spinlock.h:39, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:11, > from ide-scsi.c:34: >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: parse error before `577f4bff' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: `do_BUG_R_ver_str' declared as >function returning a function >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/page.h:97: warning: function declaration isn't >a prototype >In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/spinlock.h:39, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:11, > from ide-scsi.c:34: >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:10: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:10: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:10: parse error before `1b7d4074' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:11: `printk_R_ver_str' declared as >function returning a function >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/spinlock.h:11: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype >In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/prefetch.h:13, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/list.h:6, > from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:12, > from ide-scsi.c:34: >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:51: warning: parameter names >(without types) in function declaration >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:51: field >`loops_per_jiffy_R_ver_str' declared as a function >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: parse error before `0657d037' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:72: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:252: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:252: parse error before `7413793a' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:252: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:256: warning: parameter names >(without types) in function declaration >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: missing white space after >number `7e9' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: parse error before `7e9' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: `kernel_thread_R_ver_str' >declared as function returning a function >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/asm/processor.h:459: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype >In file included from ide-scsi.c:34: >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: parse error before `62dada05' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: >`inter_module_register_R_ver_str' declared as function returning a function >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:183: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:184: nondigits in number and not >hexadecimal >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:184: missing white space after >number `7a9e845' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:184: parse error before `7a9e845' >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:184: >`inter_module_unregister_R_ver_str' declared as function returning a function >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:184: warning: function declaration >isn't a prototype >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/module.h:185: `inter_module_get_R_ver_str' >declared as function returning a function >/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/include/linux/modul
