Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:59:36 -0900, civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020329nt2000hole/ Why isn't this news exciting? Civileme That is so damn funny! What I love most are the comments from M$: responsible security researchers work with the vendor of a suspected vulnerability issue to ensure that countermeasures are developed before the issue is made public and customers are needlessly put at risk. We are concerned that this report has gone public before we've had a fair chance to investigate it - Its publication may cause our customers needless confusion and apprehension or possibly even put them at risk. Uh huh... ROTFLMAO! -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] [Fwd: A-M$: Fwd: EFFector 15.09: ALERT: Contact US House to ProtectDigital Music!]
Wire is a powerful contributor to another mailing list that I'm subscribed to. He just posted this a few minutes ago (from when I mailed this to the list). It is a new alert from the Electronic Frontier Foundation containing a sample letter intended to oppose the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act), the Entertainment Industry movement that almost clapped Open Sourcer Dimtry Sklyarov in prison. An explanation regarding the full negative impacts of the DMCA follows the sample letter below. The sample letter is another phase of the police state countermeasures being implemented (with your help, hopefully) by the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Ideally, the sample letter should be personalized by you and then sent. As has already been suggested, printing out and sending via snail mail is the most effective means for this. This is the other proposed law (by the Entertainment Industry/Democrats) that will have very negative impacts on us open source people unless we act. Negative impacts are detailed after the sample letter. Your rights are at stake. Notice: The deadline for this is April 8, 2002 !! -Forwarded Message- From: wire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A-M$: Fwd: EFFector 15.09: ALERT: Contact US House to Protect Digital Music! Date: 30 Mar 2002 00:21:38 -0700 An alert from the EFF. This one's important. Be sure to write the letter (see below). I read somewhere that the analysts that receive these letters consider each to represent the opinion of a thousand people (or was it ten thousand?). I have no idea how accurate that is. On a side note, I have only been aware of the EFF for a few months now, but so far I have not found a single action they have taken that I can argue against. They strike me as an organization completely in it for the consumer. Subject: EFFector 15.09: ALERT: Contact US House to Protect Digital Music! Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:19:24 -0800 EFFector Vol. 15, No. 9, March 29, 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation ISSN 1062-9424 In the 208th Issue of EFFector: * ALERT: Defend your Rights to Digital Music! Congress Calls for Public Comments * California Supreme Court to Review E-mail Pamphleteer Case * Constitutional Challenge in Russian eBook Formatter Case * Mark your Calendars for EFF's 11th Annual International Pioneer Awards * Exchange Ideas with EFF Founders Mitch Kapor and John Perry Barlow For more information on EFF activities alerts: http://www.eff.org/ To join EFF or make an additional donation: http://www.eff.org/support/ EFF is a member-supported nonprofit. Please sign up as a member today! DEFEND YOUR RIGHT TO DIGITAL MUSIC! HOUSE CALLS FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON FAIR USE DIGITAL MEDIA ISSUES Electronic Frontier Foundation ACTION ALERT (Issued: Mar. 29, 2002 / Deadline: April 8, 2002) NOTE: The alert in the previous issue has been changed. It directed EFFector readers to send comments opposing technology mandates to both the House and the Senate. A House staffer has told us that the House request for comments is limited to digital music issues, not DRM and mandates more generally. A new alert about the House comments is below, while the original alert, modified to direct comments to the Senate only, is available at: http://www.eff.org/Alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html Introduction The U.S. House Judiciary Subcommittee on Courts, the Internet, and Intellectual Property has requested public comment on digital music copyright issues. Comments must be received by April 8, 2002, at the address listed below. Let YOUR voice be heard on the management of your rights to digital music. It is crucial that Congress hear from you on these important issues in order to balance the money and pressure from Hollywood at a time when the law is still forming. Tell Congress that it's time to put the brakes on the copyright industry's whittling away of the public's rights under copyright law and the First Amendment. This may be the best chance available of convincing Congress to pull back from upholding copyright holders' interests above all others in digital music and digital media in general. This request for comments is part of the Subcommittee's ongoing process of reviewing proposals and amendments concerning copyright in the digital environment. Congressional staffers tell us that your letters will have the most impact if written in your own words, addressing concerns raised by digital music and copyright, such as those outlined in our sample
[expert] LM8.2 - pcmcia-cs source tree... where?
Hi Where is the pcmcia-cs source tree in LM8.2? I was expecting to find it in /usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31... I need it to build the prims2_cs.o module for my SMC Wireless pcmcia card (http://www.linux-wlan.com/linux-wlan/) Thanks -- | ( / \ ) ( O O ) __oOOo-( )-oOOo___ Frederic Soulier private e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Oooo oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware,software development]
On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 03:56, James wrote: To give everyone a quicker way of finding your reps go to http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ziptoit.html A service provided by the US mail. It will find them and give you links out to contact them. James Thanks, James! I needed that. I'm working on this stuff today. You must have esp or something... :) Regards, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
Why isn't this news a surprise to anyone who has read any of the security sheet over the last 4 years? Peace, Dennis in Victoria civileme wrote: http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020329nt2000hole/ Why isn't this news exciting? Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
...Its publication may cause our customers needless confusion and apprehension or possibly even put them at risk, Well, I don't think I'd call their customer's apprehension needless (or their confusion either) :-) civileme wrote: http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020329nt2000hole/ Why isn't this news exciting? Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 09:12 -0500, James T. Nelson III wrote: ...Its publication may cause our customers needless confusion and apprehension or possibly even put them at risk, Well, I don't think I'd call their customer's apprehension needless (or their confusion either) :-) I think the customers they have in mind when writing such stuff are ppl like our parliament in Berlin. Because M$ is quitting support for NT next year our parliament (Bundestag) had to find new server + client software. It was an open discussion with a lot of lobbying by M$ and a lot of Public Letters and a petition named Tux for the Parliament. If you would have read some of the comments and questions by some politicians you would know what kind of customers M$ addresses with their very carefully designed information policy. BTW, they decided to use Linux for servers and WinXP for desktops. wobo -- Registered Linux User 228909 Powered By Mandrake Linux 8.1 - Microsoft, Windows, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. (Sridhar Dhanapalan) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
civileme wrote: http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020329nt2000hole/ Why isn't this news exciting? Civileme Well, I don't know about exciting, but it helps me out as an evangelist. My mom is now happily using LM8.1 because of this type of attitude. Certainly not suprising if anyof you have browsed the archives at securityFocus: Windows advisory: Hole X gives you access to C:\* and here's how to do it into the comfort of your own home. MS has assigned a crew of secretaries to investigate once they get off vacation as the security team is cramming more code into MS office ??. Linux advisory: there is a possible exploit in some library that some attacker might be able to somehow manipulate into kicking you offline for a couple minutes. download the fix here: with the exception of enabeling so much crap on boot by default (sunrpc), I think linux wins this one too, and that MS better wipe their ass before some wipes their customers HDDs. -- Jason Guidry http://www.gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] high load average
JOHN HEMMER wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, David Savolainen wrote: JOHN HEMMER wrote: On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, David Savolainen wrote: I checked to see if chkrootkit is installed, and it isn't. I just don't see what process could be hung up. Unless I don't know how to fully understand the output of ps. Here is a current ps -ef. Things have not changed much from the ps -aux I attached ealier. thanks! David UIDPID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD snip David, I always suspect the process with the highest cpu time. What is process PID # 2959, /etc/X11/X on the line above, suppose to be doing? 4 minutes and 6 seconds is a lot of processor time. What would happen if you kill it? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com John, The culprit is not X. I performed a reboot and let it sit over night having run no programs. The load average was nailed at 1.00 all night. Here are the process from a fresh reboot, although, it seems some of the command names have been cut off: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.1 1412 504 ?SMar28 0:06 init root 2 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [keventd] root 3 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [kapmd] root 4 0.0 0.0 00 ?SWN Mar28 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 5 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [kswapd] root 6 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [bdflush] root 7 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [kupdated] root 8 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [mdrecoveryd] root11 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [kreiserfsd] root65 0.0 0.2 1772 908 ?SMar28 0:00 devfsd /dev root 283 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [pagebuf_daemon] root 614 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [khubd] root 1031 0.0 0.1 1512 596 ?SMar28 0:01 syslogd -m 0 root 1040 0.0 0.2 2012 1108 ?SMar28 0:00 klogd -2 daemon1094 0.0 0.1 1436 496 ?SMar28 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd root 1217 0.0 0.4 4832 1868 ?SMar28 0:00 cupsd root 1352 0.0 0.4 4204 1580 ?DMar28 0:00 /usr/sbin/amd -F root 1392 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Mar28 0:00 [rpciod] rpc 1408 0.0 0.1 1544 532 ?SMar28 0:00 portmap root 1483 0.0 0.1 1520 636 ?SMar28 0:00 /usr/sbin/automou root 1499 0.0 0.1 1520 632 ?SMar28 0:00 /usr/sbin/automou root 1610 0.0 0.1 1452 524 ?SMar28 0:00 gpm -t imps2 -m / root 1710 0.0 0.1 1620 664 ?SMar28 0:00 crond xfs 1751 0.0 0.9 4968 3556 ?SMar28 0:00 xfs -port -1 -dae root 1976 0.0 0.3 2404 1292 tty1 SMar28 0:00 login -- david root 1977 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty2 SMar28 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 1978 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty3 SMar28 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 1979 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty4 SMar28 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 1980 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty5 SMar28 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 1981 0.0 0.1 1380 408 tty6 SMar28 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt david 9257 0.5 0.4 2784 1592 vc/1 S06:17 0:00 -bash david 9291 0.0 0.2 2800 856 vc/1 R06:18 0:00 ps -aux Also, as Rob suggested, here is the output from vmstat: procs memoryswap io system cpu r b w swpd free buff cache si sobibo incs us sy id 2 1 0884 19892 4324 138676 0 04130 11532 1 0 99 I am not exactly sure how to parse the results... regards, David David, The last 2 processes 'bash' and 'ps -aux' with times of 6.17 and 6.18, respectively look high. Are you running them in a loop or from cron? I am new to Linux, but not to Unix, but there are a lot of differences, so I am of learning as I go along. According to 'man vmstat' You have: I have: r = 2 processes waiting for run time, why? r = 0 b = 1 process in uninteruptable sleep, I b = 0 don't know what that mean. Maybe some expert on the list knows. I wonder. Does it mean you have a process in a coma? swpd = 884 kB of virtual memory used. swpd = 0 These are the most obvious differences between your system and mine. I don't know if this helps. Good luck! John
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for thefilesystem
On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 14:06, Guy Zelck wrote: I've installed it and ran it for 6H without any errors popping up. I personally don't believe it's the memory which is in fault. As if the devil was involved I had a freeze again just after boot-up. I followed the Alt-SysRq-... sequence to finally reboot but then again I had my KDE files corrupted. What I don't understand is how that crap is written to my config files. If xfs writes what it finds in its xfs log then it would mean that the xfs log contains rubbish. How did this rubbish get in there or is it taking a wrong part of the log. Is the xfs that's used in md8.2 still the same version or is it a higher version? Maybe upgrade? When I boot up the only fsck I ever notice amongst Aurora's output is the one of my /boot partition (ext2), is this supposed to be like that? I suppose Fsck in rc.sysinit just re-directs the output to syslog. Guy. Guy, The SCSI bus chain needs to be terminated on both ends. By that I mean that the adapter itself needs some termination (usually set to automatic in the bios in the case of the Adaptec models (I have an Adaptec 3940U dual channel PCI installed in this machine btw). In the hopes of giving you some new information, assuming there are no devices OUTSIDE the adapter, i.e. something like a scanner hooked to the outside port, as I said the adapter should be set to automatic termination; however you still have the other end of the scsi bus to worry about, and that is inside the machine. Termination must be installed on the hard drive (or device) FURTHEST from the card. I assume here that you know when I say furthest I don't mean physically but instead with regards to the SCSI cable. All other termination on other devices except the adaptec card must be removed. The correct procedure is to check all your devices. This includes your 2940. I think you said that you don't have access to the Adaptec bios anymore. There happens to be a quiet option in these cards that turns off the verbose bios access message when the card bios is loading. HOWEVER THE OPTION IS STILL THERE. This may be your problem. When you see the scsi bios init message, go ahead and hit ctrl-a. Even though there was no ctrl-a message you will still get into the bios screen for the Adaptec card. At this point you can check your settings. Improper termination can lead to all sorts of very wierd problems. HTH, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] toshiba laptop (OT)
Yesterday... civileme ran for the door shrieking: Michael Holt wrote: EDO and SDRAM are fundamentally different in timing, and SDRAM will never work in place of EDO. A few mainboards actually offered slots for both or the same slots for both, but in that case they actually imposed different size limits on the 168 pin memories, like 256M for EDO ECC DIMM and 128M for SDRAM DIMM. Your laptop requires the more expensive stuff. Feel fortunate. I have a CT4850 for which I am unable to obtain memory or HDD, and a 430CDT which fails on any attempt to install anything later than 7.2 Mandrake. (BTW, the 6 on board uses FBDev faster and better than the SVGA, and with equal resolution.) Civileme Thanks Civileme, I was hoping that wouldn't be the answer, but at least I got a good price for the laptop :) I am a little confused about Tobshiba's numbering scheme; I've been noticing that they seem to go up and down the numbers for the model (your CT4850 for example) I am greatful to say however, I have been able to load Mandrake 8.2 and now I'm going to play with FBDev! Thank you! Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
Yesterday... civileme ran for the door shrieking: http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020329nt2000hole/ Why isn't this news exciting? Civileme I believe that it was just last year that I heard M$ was trying to make it illegal to announce a security bug in their software??? You're just supposed to tell them then don't say a word so that they can have time to either cover it up or come up with a good spin on why it happened. Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for thefilesystem
One other point to make. There are also many wierdisms that are caused by something professional techs call static wounding. This occurs when a sensitive high density IC chip (or a single discrete transistor for that matter) passes through a static field. It also occurs when a non static-protected person opens a sealed static bag and touches the components inside. Static sparks jumping from the person to the component are also a sure sign that you don't need to waste your time; go ahead and throw the component/device away. What happens is that a moving static field (like the one that's on your body 90% of the time if you're not grounded) passes through the IC device, which induces voltage in the microscopic conductive traces. This can cause the energy thus generated to jump a nonconductor gap across to the next nearest tracer. This leaves a valley in the nonconductor wall between the tracers, offtimes seeded with vaporized tracer material. Contgrats; with no prior experience, skill or intel fab plant, you just created you own tracer. That's right; you're just that good. The correct procedure to follow when you are working on your computer is to wear a static wrist band, and to keep your computer components away from nonconductor surfaces. (read: carpet). Anti static spray is not reliable. Static wrist bands are available from your local Radio Shack. To avoid electronic mea culpa and endless firehose quantities of frustration, I recommend that anyone working on a peripheral or mobo wear a grounded static wrist band until the box is closed up. Touching the case is not totally reliable, since you can generate several thousand invisible static volts just by raising your arm, if you have any sort of synthetic garment on. In other words your static shadow just regenerates in short order. I'd venture to say that from what Ive seen, about 80% of all RMA's, marginal functionality, failures, and most frustrations several months after installation are due totally to improper handling. Read: Laziness. The problem is rampant (and I mean RAMPANT) in mom-pop computer shops. BEWARE of these. Next time you walk into your local computer store, go straight to the back without warning and surprise the techs; specifically, see if they have their wristbands on when servicing customer's equipment. I've got money that says they won't have them on. Typically I try to order my mobos from high volume internet shops on the pacific coast so I can get the mobo right after it comes off the ship. I never trust one that's been handled by anyone other than me; that keeps me from having to worry about looking backwards. I always know that my problem is somewhere ahead of me. If that makes any sense. This goes for peripherals, too. I've got a few suppliers that I trust. As I said above, the requirement for static wounding only involves a static field; this implies that you do NOT have to touch a component in order to damage it. All you have to do is pass your hand near the component. This is why static bags are there, and this is what they prevent; they stop not just touch, but static fields as well. Synopsis of above soapbox/wooden nickel contribution: Correct procedure for computer service work is to wear a grounded static wrist band. Best Regards, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Test Message
up and running...thank god! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] toshiba laptop - FBDev and X lockups
(BTW, the 6 on board uses FBDev faster and better than the SVGA, and with equal resolution.) I was using the chips drive with XFree 4.x in mandrake 8.2. I was experiencing severe X lockups (screen and keyboard). After installing the FBDev rpm, I simply changed the driver from chips to fbdev. Now I no longer have any lockups. I'm using a Toshibs Satellite Pro 420CDS, CT 6, 2MB video RAM. Because the laptop only has 40MB of RAM, I must remove the drive and install Mandrake on the drive while mounted on another machine. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LM8.2 - Quake3 fails on sound initialization...
Hi Anyone managed to run Quake3 in LM8.2? When I run ./quake3 I get a signal 11 when it tries to initialize the sound --- sound initialization --- Received signal 11, exiting... In the first part of the initialization, it does find the OpenGL libraries and so on. For whatever reason it fails on the sound init. note: /dev/dsp exists and I've got sound for other apps or games (eg Civ:CTP) Any help appreciated. Thanks -- | ( / \ ) ( O O ) __oOOo-( )-oOOo___ Frederic Soulier private e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Oooo oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] kernel upgrade problem
I have upgraded my standard Mandrake 8.1 system from kernel 2.4.8 to 2.4.18, along with the necessary rpms, all taken from a mirror with the 8.2 packages on it. The kernel upgrade was done by adding the kernel (-ivh intead of -Uvh) to the 2.4.8 version, so I can choose which one I want at boot time. Both are using the ext3 fs. This seems to be working, except for a problem at boot time. When I boot to the 2.4.18 kernel, at the point in rc.sysinit where the root filesystem is checked (around line 450) and the Fsck macro is called, I get an error that e2fsck cannot continue because the filesystem is already mounted, and then have the choice of dropping to maintenance, etc. If I remove or comment out the initrd entry in lilo.conf, boot up is normal but then I do not have the jbd and ext3 modules loaded. Apparently fsck sees the journeling part as having the system mounted. With the 2.4.8 kernel, using its initrd, everything is normal. This happens with the original 8.1 initscripts and the version that comes with 8.2. Is there a way to start the ext3 system after the filecheck (loading the modules later doesn't seem to work; the modules get loaded but I don't think the journel is written to)? Or some way to get the 2.4.18 to act as the 2.4.8 does? (I can get it to work with the initrd by adding the -N option to the line that calls Fsck, so that fsck doesn't actually run, but just prints out what it would do. But I would like to have it run). Thanks, Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the
On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 00:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: with Mandrake 8.1 and XFS, i often need to copy kdmrc from other 8.1 machines, to make my X start again after inproper shutdown. but 8.2 with XFS seems OK so far, i now shutdown my PC directly everyday when running X(just for testing...)... so far so good... Regards, tbsky Hmm Holy Metadata Snafu(s), Batman :) Giving ext3 a smack on the lips, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK 8.2 Install Bug
Just something I've seen in Mandrake Install (DrakInstall?) over the past several releases of Mandrake. There needs to be an intelligent check on the size of the partitions. If / is too small, say under 80 MBytes, you will get strange errors down the road when packages start loading. Packages just fail, no explanation, and you are forced to start all over again. You'll only see this, of course, if you're like me and like to partition /usr and /var and /home separately, and / winds up being fairly empty (48MB, typical) when all is said and done. But the Installer apparently needs more space there to move around. -- j Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] XFS and Linux-Mandrake
I have used Linux in the past and because of its XFS support, I want to give Mandrake a try. In particular, I am interested in installing on a machine using the minimal install mode (65MB) and running XFS. Has anyone done this and if so, any notable problems? Also, in the course of researching XFS, I read the FAQ at http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/faq.html and there was a question about tools included in the cmd/xfs directory, which is a source directory I assume. The answer lists several tools, including: xfs_fsr is a defragmenter for xfs (working) Does Mandrake include this with 8.2? I find it interesting that XFS comes with a defragmenter! Thanks! Jeff Flowers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM8.2 - Quake3 fails on sound initialization...
On 30 Mar 2002 20:05:31 + Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Anyone managed to run Quake3 in LM8.2? When I run ./quake3 I get a signal 11 when it tries to initialize the sound --- sound initialization --- Received signal 11, exiting... In the first part of the initialization, it does find the OpenGL libraries and so on. For whatever reason it fails on the sound init. note: /dev/dsp exists and I've got sound for other apps or games (eg Civ:CTP) Have you tried checking any of the Quake forums or linux-quake sites. IIRC there is a problem with SBLive cards when the hihgmem option is used. I have run QuakeIII in 8.2 but I use C-Media on board sound. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 14:06, Guy Zelck wrote: I've installed it and ran it for 6H without any errors popping up. I personally don't believe it's the memory which is in fault. As if the devil was involved I had a freeze again just after boot-up. I followed the Alt-SysRq-... sequence to finally reboot but then again I had my KDE files corrupted. What I don't understand is how that crap is written to my config files. If xfs writes what it finds in its xfs log then it would mean that the xfs log contains rubbish. How did this rubbish get in there or is it taking a wrong part of the log. Is the xfs that's used in md8.2 still the same version or is it a higher version? Maybe upgrade? When I boot up the only fsck I ever notice amongst Aurora's output is the one of my /boot partition (ext2), is this supposed to be like that? I suppose Fsck in rc.sysinit just re-directs the output to syslog. Guy. Guy, The SCSI bus chain needs to be terminated on both ends. By that I mean that the adapter itself needs some termination (usually set to automatic in the bios in the case of the Adaptec models (I have an Adaptec 3940U dual channel PCI installed in this machine btw). Yes, I know all this. My adptr is on automatic and I use a terminator on the internal flat cable's far end. The external scsi bus goes to a jazz drive (automatic termination selected) and then into a old pc box I stashed with a few big Seagates ST42400N (big heavy motherfuckers), an ARCHIVE 1/2 tape drive an Hexabyte 8mm drive (now you know all) on a terminated flat cable. My scsi setup never gave me any problems. This includes your 2940. I think you said that you don't have access to the Adaptec bios anymore. There happens to be a quiet option in these cards that turns off the verbose bios access message when the card bios is loading. HOWEVER THE OPTION IS STILL THERE. This may be your problem. It's not that. I still see the Ctrl-A msg but once having chosen this the card itself reports that it can't see any scsi controller so I can't get to any of the menus. This is only so on my new computer and I only discoverd this recently. Strangely enough it functions normally like this. Now I've heard that there are some particular pci slots with fixed IRQs or sth., I should try moving the card to another pci slot. Or is the pci standard too new for the card? Back to my file corruption problem which I can reproduce whenever I want (and when I don't want), I think the one thing I could do to rule out xfs as the culprit is either go for a recent kernel (2.4.18) in which a newer xfs is compiled or back up every fs, re-create them with reiserfs on them and then restore the backups. Then test and see if the problem remains. I also intend to test the cpu with 'cpuburn'. Guy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: with Mandrake 8.1 and XFS, i often need to copy kdmrc from other 8.1 machines, to make my X start again after inproper shutdown. but 8.2 with XFS seems OK so far, i now shutdown my PC directly everyday when running X(just for testing...)... so far so good... Regards, tbsky Does kdmrc also contain ^@? That's what I allways have in at least 20 or more files. Good news the recent versions of xfs do not show this. I feel like upgrading. Guy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 8.2 Supermount - Problem
I did an upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 to a Cooker 8.2 and recently to the final 8.2. While the supermount is working with the floppy drive, as a user I get the following error when I try to read either of my CD-R or CD-RW drives: Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /mnt/cdrom2 mount failed My FSTAB and MTAB entries are shown below: FSTAB * /dev/sdd2 / reiserfs notail 1 1 /dev/sdd1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 none/mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd0,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,ro,nosuid,codepage=850,nodev,exec 0 0 none/mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd1,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,ro,nosuid,codepage=850,nodev,exec 0 0 none/mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,rw,nosuid,exec,codepage=850,nodev,unhide 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/syjet vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,rw,nosuid,user,exec,noauto,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /usr/linuxdata reiserfs exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1 /dev/sda1 /usr/os2boot ntfs user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 1 1 /dev/sdc1 /usr/os2data ntfs user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 1 1 /dev/sdd3 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 MTAB * /dev/sdd2 / reiserfs rw,notail 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 none /dev devfs rw 0 0 /dev/sdd1 /boot ext2 rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom supermount ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd0,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd1,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount rw,nosuid,nodev,fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850,unhide 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda5 /usr/linuxdata reiserfs rw 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0 If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know. George Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Anything else better than NFS in Mandrake 8.2?
On Saturday 30 March 2002 11:57, you wrote: May be there is a AUTH system that could be used for NFS.. but a lot of text that I read just keep telling me how insecure that NFS is.. Isn't that what NFS stands for old 'nix joke approaching No f**îng Security .. -- john in sydney = Mandrake Linux 8.2 Kernel version: 2.4.17-5mdk Uptime: 23 hours 36 minutes = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] high load average
David Savolainen wrote: hello all, Ever since I upgraded to 8.2, my load average will not drop below 1.00. From what I have been able to determine, the load average is a measure of jobs in the run queue. What job could be permanently stuck in the run queue? How do I clear it (whatever it is) and bring things back to normal? ps does not seem to indicate anything continuously running. In fact, kapm-idled seems to be awol. Any ideas about what could be happening? Many thanks David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I think I may have solved my problem. It will take some more testing to verify it, but it appears that amd and automount do not play nice if you try to run them at the same time. In desperation to track this down I decided to start killing likely processes. My load average dropped to normal after amd was killed. David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LM8.2 - Quake3 fails on sound initialization...
Frederic, I just had problems with the installation because the XFree86-libs wasn't installed before, but now is runing like a charm. I have a Pentium III 800 with 256Mb Ram, a Voodoo3 3000 and a CreativeLab 128 PCI (AC97 on board is dissabled). Perhaps if your sound is runing fine for other games could be a good idea the comment of Charles about Quake forums; nevertheless if Quake 3 worked for you under mandrake 8.1 the problem could be different. sorry I can't help more...:-( Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK 8.2 Install Bug
Jeremy Mereness wrote: Just something I've seen in Mandrake Install (DrakInstall?) over the past several releases of Mandrake. There needs to be an intelligent check on the size of the partitions. If / is too small, say under 80 MBytes, you will get strange errors down the road when packages start loading. Packages just fail, no explanation, and you are forced to start all over again. Is there a question here? If you could be more specific, perhaps we could provide a workaround, but I have not experienced this and I've done more partitioning than I care to remember (since 7.0). Wouldn't this be _less_ of a problem if you partition with a /usr partition? maybe i'm just confused. I am, after all, on vacation. -- Jason Guidry http://www.gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFS and Linux-Mandrake
Jeff Flowers wrote: I have used Linux in the past and because of its XFS support, I want to give Mandrake a try. In particular, I am interested in installing on a machine using the minimal install mode (65MB) and running XFS. Has anyone done this and if so, any notable problems? Notable problems (as always) will likely occur with suspect hardware. I have not taken the 8.2 plunge yet, but this is likely the only concern you may have. Tell us what you're up to with this install, and what hardware you're considering. -- Jason Guidry http://www.gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Anything else better than NFS in Mandrake 8.2?
John Haywood wrote: On Saturday 30 March 2002 11:57, you wrote: May be there is a AUTH system that could be used for NFS.. but a lot of text that I read just keep telling me how insecure that NFS is.. Isn't that what NFS stands for old 'nix joke approaching No f**îng Security .. /joke *ahem*, please close all tags *pushes glasses up nose* -- Jason Guidry http://www.gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Anything else better than NFS in Mandrake 8.2?
John Haywood wrote: On Saturday 30 March 2002 11:57, you wrote: May be there is a AUTH system that could be used for NFS.. but a lot of text that I read just keep telling me how insecure that NFS is.. Isn't that what NFS stands for old 'nix joke approaching No f**îng Security .. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com h Well, nfs can mount filesystems on other machines _only_if_ the other machine offers it and offers it specifically to the host you are trying to mount it from. It does not necessarily give write access, and it does not give root privileges unless it is set for it. It is machine specific rather than user specific, but then mounting the nfs direectory is normally a root function on the local machine performing the remote access, This can be controlled (in the sense of giving non-root users access) on the local machine by editing sudoers and/or setting up a wheel group and giving some users access to it. So the graininess of the security is controlled by the setup of the network nodes and not by nfs directly, and someone who throws all gates open in setting up nfs is asking for trouble. But I set up the following: 15 clerical positions had machines where a READ-ONLY nfs mount at boot gave them access to a backup of their work files on an internet gateway/fileserver. At a staggered time near the close of work every day, a cron job popped up, gave the user a message, after two minutes killed the nfs connection then initiated a new one (root only with write access to the directory containing the directory containing the backup files, then wrote the day's changes over to the fileserver, killed the mount and remounted the read-only. So the level of security is largely a function of how the local network is set up. Of course Samba can be used linux-to-linux and can be made quite secure for those who want all the security in the sharing system, rather than in the setup. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 02:59, civileme wrote: http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020329nt2000hole/ Why isn't this news exciting? Civileme Civ, I just got another newsflash that you might find interesting. Excerpt-- __ Newsflash: Microsoft Runs Out Of Ideas REDMOND, WA -- In what analysts call an inevitable crisis, Microsoft has postponed release of Windows PU, the next version of its flagship operating system. Insiders say that the problem is due to the fact that no one in Redmond has any ideas for improvements. Some have suggested reliability improvements, but these were discarded as being contrary to the Microsoft culture. The problem, it appears, is due to the fact that Microsoft's aggressive marketing and penchant for adding features to Windows which were once separate software sold by other companies. The latest such move was when the Redmond, Washington firm incorporated its Office Suite into its operating system. A Silicon Valley venture capitalist who requested anonymity told Humorix that there is no longer any competition for Microsoft due to the reluctance of developers to expose their innovative ideas to a market which is patrolled by Jaws. There was a time, he says, when people would start a company and then wait to be bought out by MS, but the profit in this approach has disappeared since Microsoft's acquisition of Apple Computer and Intel. Microsoft no longer is willing to pay a fair market price for new products simply, because it has eliminated the concept of a free market. According to a stock analyst for a large New York brokerage, who also refuses to allow its name to be printed, tells us that Microsoft's rise was made possible by its ability to watch the software market, copy the best new products and then drive the creators out of business. Now, he says, There are no more innovators to feed Microsoft with new ideas. It's sad. An end to an era. __ Yes, this is a tragedy. (sniff) LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] msec vs. webmin - and a patch
Greetings,
If I used webmin to add a user, the next time msec runs it complains:
msec: unable to parse chage output
I took a look at why this happens and found a fix, which is shown
below. This fix has already made it into cooker. Any chance of an 8.2 update?
Thanks.
David
*
When webmin adds a user, the entry in /etc/shadow looks like:
usr1:$3$37105428$38J/slmiH0OJ6iRnZKZp9.:11772::
/usr/share/msec/libmsec.py expects to have a number as the maximum field,
as in:
usr2:$3$37105428$38J/slmiH0OJ6iRnZKZp9.:11772::9
Here's the output from chage for these two users:
[root@osage samba]# /usr/bin/chage -l usr1
Minimum:-1
Maximum:-1
Warning:-1
Inactive: -1
Last Change:Mar 26, 2002
Password Expires: Never
Password Inactive: Never
Account Expires:Never
[root@osage samba]# /usr/bin/chage -l usr2
Minimum:-1
Maximum:9
Warning:-1
Inactive: -1
Last Change:Mar 26, 2002
Password Expires: Never
Password Inactive: Never
Account Expires:Never
The line Maximum:...9 is recognized by object maximum_regex. Adding
a regular expression to recognize Maximum:...-1 allows libmsec.py to
successfully process the lines in /etc/shadow generated by webmin.
I've made this change to my copy of libmsec.py and msec is happy. Here's
the patch:
[root@osage msec]# diff -u libmsec.py.orig libmsec.py
--- libmsec.py.orig Fri Mar 8 13:41:21 2002
+++ libmsec.py Mon Mar 25 23:35:08 2002
-544,6 +544,7
atallow.replace_line_matching('root', 'root', 1)
maximum_regex = re.compile('^Maximum:\s*([0-9]+)', re.MULTILINE)
+minimum_regex = re.compile('^Maximum:\s*(-1)', re.MULTILINE)
inactive_regex = re.compile('^Inactive:\s*(-?[0-9]+)', re.MULTILINE)
# TODO FL Sat Dec 29 20:18:20 2001
-577,7 +578,7
ret = commands.getstatusoutput(cmd)
_interactive and log(_('got current maximum password
aging for user %s with command \'%s\'') % (entry[0], cmd))
if ret[0] == 0:
-res = maximum_regex.search(ret[1])
+res = maximum_regex.search(ret[1]) or
minimum_regex.search(ret[1])
res2 = inactive_regex.search(ret[1])
if res and res2:
current_max = int(res.group(1))
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Re: [expert] 8.2 Supermount - Problem
George Czerw wrote: I did an upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 to a Cooker 8.2 and recently to the final 8.2. While the supermount is working with the floppy drive, as a user I get the following error when I try to read either of my CD-R or CD-RW drives: Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /mnt/cdrom2 mount failed My FSTAB and MTAB entries are shown below: FSTAB * none/mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd0,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,ro,nosuid,codepage=850,nodev,exec 0 0 none/mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/scd1,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,ro,nosuid,codepage=850,nodev,exec 0 0 none/mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,rw,nosuid,exec,codepage=850,nodev,unhide 0 0 If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know. George George, your fstab lines for mounting cdrom, cdrom2 (and floppy, although you say it is working) look suspicious. They are in fact telling the os to mount none, and this seems to be the error msg you are getting too (smart errror msg: it is telling us exactly what the problem is). The fstab lines should read /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount all-the-options-presently-in-your-lines. (notice that none has be replaced with /mnt/cdrom and none should be replaced with /mntcdrom2 and /mnt/floppy in the next two fstab lines too. Then reboot and mtab should reflect these values too.) Can you see the logic? Give this a go, and let me know if we have surmounted the supermount issue. -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs forthe filesystem
On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 16:27, Guy Zelck wrote: It's not that. I still see the Ctrl-A msg but once having chosen this the card itself reports that it can't see any scsi controller so I can't get to any of the menus. This is only so on my new computer and I only discoverd this recently. Strangely enough it functions normally like this. Now I've heard that there are some particular pci slots with fixed IRQs or sth., I should try moving the card to another pci slot. Or is the pci standard too new for the card? Back to my file corruption problem which I can reproduce whenever I want (and when I don't want), I think the one thing I could do to rule out xfs as the culprit is either go for a recent kernel (2.4.18) in which a newer xfs is compiled or back up every fs, re-create them with reiserfs on them and then restore the backups. Then test and see if the problem remains. I also intend to test the cpu with 'cpuburn'. Guy. It's definitely tough to diagnose a problem thru email. From what you've posted so far, however, I would venture to say that there are some problems somewhere on your scsi bus. You've pretty much ruled out quite a bit of stuff so far. The reason I got a 3940U was so that I could isolate my primary drives (when I did have scsi) from all other devices (scanners, tape drives, hard drives that were slower, etc) so that bus performance would not be affected. Segregation of your primary drives and everything else is mandatory when you are diagnosing a problem. Have you tried removing everything but your primary drives and then attempting to replicate the problem? If the card bios itself is being stepped on, that could explain why you are unable to access the configuration menu. This is a serious problem. In cases like this, the correct procedure is isolation, which entails removing everything entirely from your system except the essentials, which are scsi and video. Remove all scsi devices except the primary drives and attempt to boot the system, looking for normal operation. What I would probably do first is attempt to get into the card configuration menu. Let me know how this goes. BTW, have there been any changes to the bios configuration on this machine? Cheers, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT--And now for the comic relief
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 02:59, civileme wrote: http://www.itworld.com/Sec/2199/020329nt2000hole/ Why isn't this news exciting? Civileme Civ, I just got another newsflash that you might find interesting. Excerpt-- __ Newsflash: Microsoft Runs Out Of Ideas REDMOND, WA -- In what analysts call an inevitable crisis, Microsoft has postponed release of Windows PU, the next version of its flagship operating system. Insiders say that the problem is due to the fact that no one in Redmond has any ideas for improvements. Some have suggested reliability improvements, but these were discarded as being contrary to the Microsoft culture. The problem, it appears, is due to the fact that Microsoft's aggressive marketing and penchant for adding features to Windows which were once separate software sold by other companies. The latest such move was when the Redmond, Washington firm incorporated its Office Suite into its operating system. A Silicon Valley venture capitalist who requested anonymity told Humorix that there is no longer any competition for Microsoft due to the reluctance of developers to expose their innovative ideas to a market which is patrolled by Jaws. There was a time, he says, when people would start a company and then wait to be bought out by MS, but the profit in this approach has disappeared since Microsoft's acquisition of Apple Computer and Intel. Microsoft no longer is willing to pay a fair market price for new products simply, because it has eliminated the concept of a free market. According to a stock analyst for a large New York brokerage, who also refuses to allow its name to be printed, tells us that Microsoft's rise was made possible by its ability to watch the software market, copy the best new products and then drive the creators out of business. Now, he says, There are no more innovators to feed Microsoft with new ideas. It's sad. An end to an era. __ Yes, this is a tragedy. (sniff) LX That is... sad. And disgusting. Damn I hate M$ more more when I hear stuff about their BS tactics. Jaws indeed. I hope someday that M$ goes down to a more manageable size gets some real competition. Be it linux or something else. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake 82 lilo.conf
My system has WinNT on hda and MDK on hdb. Not until Mandrake 8.2 have I found these lines put into my lilo.conf: disk=/dev/hda bios=0x81 disk=/dev/hdb bios=0x80 ... other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda map-drive=0x80 to 0x81 map-drive=0x81 to 0x80 I understand what these bios/drive lines are up to, but why? My system works just fine without them. Furthermore, since I boot with ntldr in my MBR (ok, it's a little weird) and lilo in /dev/hdb, the above lines kill ntldr's ability to boot lilo. So, each time Mandrake's System Tools creates a new lilo.conf, I have to remove those lines. No Mandrake before 8.2 did this on this system. What gives? -- j Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK 8.2 Install Bug
No question, actually. Just a bug report, or just wanted to know if anyone had ever encountered this but me. So, if you install MDK and set the / partition under 70 MBytes, the package install several steps down will barf. Even though you've made all the other partitions incredibly big and / will only contain 45 MB (or less) when it's all over. -- j Jason Guidry wrote: Jeremy Mereness wrote: Just something I've seen in Mandrake Install (DrakInstall?) over the past several releases of Mandrake. There needs to be an intelligent check on the size of the partitions. If / is too small, say under 80 MBytes, you will get strange errors down the road when packages start loading. Packages just fail, no explanation, and you are forced to start all over again. Is there a question here? If you could be more specific, perhaps we could provide a workaround, but I have not experienced this and I've done more partitioning than I care to remember (since 7.0). Wouldn't this be _less_ of a problem if you partition with a /usr partition? maybe i'm just confused. I am, after all, on vacation. -- Jason Guidry http://www.gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sed and special characters
Hi Kyle, Thank you for your help. I got a solution by myself too in this way, using ´|´ instead of ´/´. On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Kyle McDonald wrote: If the '/' is what is giving you problems then write your sed line with something else. It is setup to use pretty much any character after the 's' This example uses instead, I've also seen % used. but pretty much anything will work: sed -e 's@a_patternanotherpattern'$ENV_VAR'' myfile.txt -Kyle Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: Hi List, I'm trying to: sed -e 's/a_pattern/another_pattern'$A_ENV_VAR'/' myfile.txt if my $A_ENV_VAR has no special character 'sed' works, however if it has special character (like a full path name: A_ENV_VAR=/usr/local/temp) 'sed' doesn't work. How could I overcome this problem? Many thanks in advance. --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] screen jiggles w/disk access (seriously!)
I have a system where the screen jiggles and shakes, apparently when the disk is being accessed. It occurs in frame-buffer and X but not in straight VGA text. The weird part: it does NOT occur if I boot the same PC into Windows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK 82 does not power system off
How come Mandrake 8.2 doesn't switch off my computer after a shutdown? apmd is installed and executing, and I can hear the drives turn off, but the PC stays running. Previous versions of Mandrake shut the power off completely. The only thing different about this build from my older ones is I've raised the security level to higher. Something I've missed? I've tried the explicit /sbin/poweroff command but get the same results. -- j Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] garnome + mandrake 8.2 kdm?
Hi, I'm currently compiling the latest garnome (gnome2 beta3) and was wondering if anyone could give a tip on getting it integrated into kdm. (or how to start it in general) here's what the garnome site (http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/) says about starting garnome: It depends on how you normally log in. With Debian's gdm, I can add the following lines to my .xsession file, and choose Xsession from the Sessions menu: PATH=$HOME/garnome/bin:$PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/garnome/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH GDK_USE_XFT=1 export PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH GDK_USE_XFT exec $HOME/garnome/bin/gnome-session You can also just run the individual applications within your current session. Make sure you set PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, however. I don't have an .xsessions file in my home, should I just create one? Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] screen jiggles w/disk access (seriously!)
Jeremy Mereness wrote: I have a system where the screen jiggles and shakes, apparently when the disk is being accessed. It occurs in frame-buffer and X but not in straight VGA text. The weird part: it does NOT occur if I boot the same PC into Windows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If it is an on-board ProSavage, it is a known kernel problem with that particular chipset and the current 8.2 kernel. Look for an update shortly. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK 82 does not power system off
Jeremy Mereness wrote: How come Mandrake 8.2 doesn't switch off my computer after a shutdown? apmd is installed and executing, and I can hear the drives turn off, but the PC stays running. Previous versions of Mandrake shut the power off completely. The only thing different about this build from my older ones is I've raised the security level to higher. Something I've missed? I've tried the explicit /sbin/poweroff command but get the same results. -- j Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Most likely some resource is reading as busy and not unmounting. Check the logs and check the powerdown messages. If you have Samba mounts with a character set that uses 16 bit or higher encoding, this will happen. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Anything else better than NFS in Mandrake 8.2?
civileme wrote: It is machine specific rather than user specific, but then mounting the nfs direectory is normally a root function on the local machine performing the remote access, This can be controlled (in the sense of giving non-root users access) on the local machine by editing sudoers and/or setting up a wheel group and giving some users access to it. There ya go again, civileme. Are you trying to disabuse users of the notion that machines can set up their own security? So the graininess of the security is controlled by the setup of the network nodes and not by nfs directly, and someone who throws all gates open in setting up nfs is asking for trouble. Could you possibly be suggesting that good security is incumbent upon having a knowledgeable SA? So the level of security is largely a function of how the local network is set up. Of course Samba can be used linux-to-linux and can be made quite secure for those who want all the security in the sharing system, rather than in the setup. Civileme Well now you have done it: in addition to just installing the os, here you come suggesting, and, I dare say, pointing out that it is methodical system administration the provides the security, and not just installing the software... Hmmm, -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Anything else better than NFS in Mandrake 8.2?
I have been looking around.. doesn't look like there is much better than AFS.. but it needs patching of the Linux kernel, which is a turnoff, and is not implemented in the standard Mandrake setup. SMB may also be a consideration.. but having a fstab file with a passwords in it, with everyone able to read is not a good idea either, might have a look at autofs, to see if it's easier method to hide the passwords. On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 12:52, Tim Holmes wrote: As there is with anything, there are pros and cons to AFS. Meanwhile I've never used OpenAFS, but I have worked with and have some experience with AFS. If implimented, the security of AFS can be very nice, but AFS is not very stable. It's been known to go down quite often, then closing you and others out of their files, etc;. That's a pitty.. still things are always getting better, (when was the last time that you checked OpenAFS) AFS is also a much more high end network file system. And not sure it would have any practicle use in Linux. I could be wrong, but from my experience, unless you're using this Linux server for business applications, AFS isn't that great an idea to compile and impliment in Desktops like Mandrake. I beg to differ on this.. I think that security on the local lan is important, particularly on a large scale setup,or even small setups, for instance, on a network with 30 PCs in a factory situation, or school situation, having mounted home directorys, and using LDAP for AUTH, roaming with the lovely Desktops that Mandrake gives, and plugging in a unauthorized Notebook PC, could easily give unauthorized read access to files that they should not have access to. But AFS coupled with Kerberos is a very nice set up. And if implimented properly can be very powerful. Maybe my view point, is just that, my view point, but I don't see AFS sneaking into the mix with NFS for the Desktop for now. Sounds like your view point is a sort of peer to peer is the only way of running desktops, which is just so difficult to setup and control, with user logins etc.. If you've tried implimenting it on Linux, please let me know. I'd be very interested in your findings. tdh I will let the list know... but it will be a while, as I am running a total Linux setup here.. it's not really a problem here, as this Network is small with about 12 workstations PCs on it, so plugging in a uncontrolled Notebook, or PC in the network is not much of an issue, all I am doing is is looking just how well the setup that I have here would scale, NFS could be a issue on a larger system. There is some hope though there is NFS V4 anyway at this moment we will be sticking with our current NFS setup, till we find a way to improve it. Cheers Mark -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Hi Everyone, | | Just seeing if is there a better Network File system than NFS in the | standard Mandrake 8.2 Linux, something like OpenAFS.. | http://www.openafs.org/ it sort of bugs me than anyone can walk up and | plug a notebook in a NFS network and probably connect to it.. Just some | ideas please. | | May be there is a AUTH system that could be used for NFS.. but a lot of | text that I read just keep telling me how insecure that NFS is.. There | has been a lot of talk on improved file systems.. but network file | systems Linux seems to be a little behind in Linux. May be Mandrake | should include OpenAFS... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
