Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread David Guntner

civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 David Guntner wrote:
 
 KevinO grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 During bootup the kernel needs to read /etc/fstab to know what other 
 filesystems (partitions) to mount where. If /etc/fstab is not in the
 root filesystem, the system will never be able to finish mounting the
 filesystems.
 
 That's a good point.  I hadn't thought of that.
 
 But it's still annoying. :-)  It just makes more sense now.  Thanks for the 
 reality check.
 
 Actually, making separate filesystems of any of the following will stop 
 the system in its tracks:
 
 /etc, /bin, /lib, /sbin
 
 Those really need to be in /.  

Agreed, now that I'm thinking straight. :-)

 Now as for
 
 alias rm rm -i

I don't recall complaining about the rm alias :-)

 suppose you are typing
 
 rm -r /somepath/.somecorruptedconfigdir -f
 
 and at the point where you have typed
 
 rm -r /
 
 The cat jumps up to get your attention and lands a paw on Enter.
 
 Are you going to chuckle because you didn't type -f and the -i is 
 already aliased in?  Or are you going to determine if cat really tastes 
 like chicken because you didn't have -i?  

I'd be determining if the cat really tastes like chicken, because when I 
want to get rid of a directory recursively, I type

rm -rf /the/directory/to/delete

Assuming that I'm not above the directory that I want to get rid of.  
99.999% of the time (I'm sure it's actually 100%, but I'm allowing for the 
possibility that I might do it the other way), if I want to get rid of a 
directory, I will cd to the directory above the one that I want to get rid 
of, and then just

rm -rf directoryname

Which is much less dangerous than typing anything starting with / when 
using those options. :-)

 Finally, we are targeting windows desktop migrants and NT server 
 migrations rather than trying to draw customers away from other linux 
 distros, so you can expect an approach that does a little hand-holding 
 as the audience has come to expect.  (They say we don't do enough, 
 especially when they blow up their systems using the update program on a 
 kernel --  well look at our new kernel update numbering--it won't show 
 as an update--have to DL and install)

I'm glad to hear that. :-)  When I was new to Mandrake, I was certainly one 
of the people who got caught by that when it still showed up.  rpmdrake 
didn't give any warnings about using it on a kernel.  I know better *now*, 
but it wasn't until it was too late that I learned that lesson

 --Dave
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Re: [expert] pptp - some problems

2002-06-18 Thread Jerry Kreps

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 01:44 am, hans schneidhofer wrote:
 hi,

 have an adsl-connection via eth0 and an internal network via eth1, both
 ethercards are now 3Com3c905 (10/100)

 but the process of opening a connecton to the internet is very slow. Not
 the speed itself.

 sometimes it takes between 2 - 4 minutes.

 the system I have is a mdk 8.0 and pptp-version:
 pptp-adsl-fr-1.0.2

 CPU=350 MHZ.

 sometimes it happens, that if I only want to see the transactions on eth0
 and eth1, the switch between eth0 and eth1 takes about 2 minutes or more.

 Is anyone there, who has experiences with two ethercards and (or)
 adsl-connection via pptp ?

 the ppoe is not possible, reason is on my provider.

 thanks for some hints and tips

 bye hans schneidhofer

I had two 3Com 3C905B-TX ethernet cards in my Sony VAIO.  One was connected to 
a Cisco 675 router my ADSL ISP had supplied and set up as a DHCP server.  I 
was running SuSE at the time and configured it as a dhcpd.  The eth1 was 
hooked to a NetGear 4 port hub, to which my other two computers were 
attached.  The Sony was my internet fireway, router and server, besides being 
my wife's workstation.  The connect took a 3 or 4 seconds on boot up and the 
same when the lease was renewed every twenty four hours.  Surfing the 
internet from my PC, via my eth0 3C905B-TX card to her eth1 and then out 
through her eth0 to the internet was essentially instantaneous.  The slowest 
part of the connection was the 40 -120 miliseconds that connecting to a 
website took.

When I got my current box, also containing a 3COM  3CC905B-TX, I also changed 
ISPs to RoadRunner.  They supplied a Toshiba cable modem, which I connected 
to my eth0 and configured it as a dhcpd with MCC.  The connection is almost 
instantaneous.  

I suspect your connection is not creating /etc/resolv.conf and/or it is taking 
too long to resolve the DNSs 
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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread daRcmaTTeR

James wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:33:24 -0600
 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority
 
 
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

Jes** Chr*** on a blue crutch !!

-- tying jaw to head !!! --

On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 12:35, Peter Ruskin wrote:

On Monday 17 Jun 2002 17:02, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 19:39, Peter Ruskin wrote:

I believe that is true - I wouldn't try to have a separate
/etc.

My separate partitions are:

snip

I'm thinking with that kind of scheme such as you employ, you
must have a buttload of disk space.  ;)



PDC20265: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI
Mode.ide2: BM-DMA at 0xec00-0xec07, BIOS settings: hde:DMA,
hdf:DMAide3: BM-DMA at 0xec08-0xec0f, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA,
hdh:DMA

insert the rest of his mind-numbing parititons here

I'm with LX.  Jesus is not quite the statement I'd reach for tho,
thats too much of an understatement!
 
 
 3 points.  
 
 1.  No answer on the 3com thing yet.
 2.  What's LX
 3.  I was at a lab the other day for a business meeting.  The have just
 under one PETAbyte of data in their Database server alone. 
 

Holyu crap James! I bet it take a little while to do a few small queries 
on that monster! I can't even begin to imagine what a PETAbyte looks like.

Mark





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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread daRcmaTTeR

civileme wrote:
 David Guntner wrote:
 
 KevinO grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 David Guntner wrote:

 I tried to create a separate /etc filesystem ...

 Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong ...

 During bootup the kernel needs to read /etc/fstab to know what other 
 filesystems (partitions) to mount where. If /etc/fstab is not in the
 root filesystem, the system will never be able to finish mounting the
 filesystems.


 That's a good point.  I hadn't thought of that.

 But it's still annoying. :-)  It just makes more sense now.  Thanks 
 for the reality check.

--Dave


 

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 Actually, making separate filesystems of any of the following will stop 
 the system in its tracks:
 
 /etc, /bin, /lib, /sbin
 
 Those really need to be in /. 
 Now as for
 
 alias rm rm -i
 
 suppose you are typing
 
 rm -r /somepath/.somecorruptedconfigdir -f
 
 and at the point where you have typed
 
 rm -r /
 
 The cat jumps up to get your attention and lands a paw on Enter.
 
 Are you going to chuckle because you didn't type -f and the -i is 
 already aliased in?  Or are you going to determine if cat really tastes 
 like chicken because you didn't have -i? 
 I don't know about you, but 98% of the time my computer has a problem, 
 the problem has its hands on my keyboard, and I have too much data 
 flying in a single day to risk it til the next backup for the sake of a 
 little convenience.  I would call it thoughtful rather than paternalistic.
 
 Some of the things that might appear paternalistic are not in fact so. 
 They are forced to some decision.  For example, if you have an internet 
 connection and a local network connection, you can put in one nameserver 
 for the LAN and two for the internet.  Major redesign at linux standards 
 level is involved for more than 3 nameservers, and it either had to be 
 two for one and one for the other or one for each and another reserved 
 for an additional purpose.  That is for the GUI setup scripts.  Of 
 course you find all of them regardless in /etc/resolv.conf, just set up 
 a bit differently in /etc/sysconfig/network, and you can certainly 
 change this with an editor.
 
 Finally, we are targeting windows desktop migrants and NT server 
 migrations rather than trying to draw customers away from other linux 
 distros, so you can expect an approach that does a little hand-holding 
 as the audience has come to expect.  (They say we don't do enough, 
 especially when they blow up their systems using the update program on a 
 kernel --  well look at our new kernel update numbering--it won't show 
 as an update--have to DL and install)
 
 Civileme
 

Civileme,

Truely, it's guys like you working for a distro like Mandrake that cause 
me to love and respect Mandrake so much.  Well said! No matter how you 
slice it, pound for pound... ounce for ounce, Mandrake has them all 
beat. While with Linux, it's all good the cream always rises to the top.

Mark





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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread James

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 07:17:37 -0400
daRcmaTTeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority

 James wrote:
  On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:33:24 -0600
  FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority
  
  
 Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
 Jes** Chr*** on a blue crutch !!
 
 -- tying jaw to head !!! --
 
 On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 12:35, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 
 On Monday 17 Jun 2002 17:02, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 19:39, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 
 I believe that is true - I wouldn't try to have a separate
 /etc.
 
 My separate partitions are:
 
 snip
 
 I'm thinking with that kind of scheme such as you employ, you
 must have a buttload of disk space.  ;)
 
 
 
 PDC20265: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI
 Mode.ide2: BM-DMA at 0xec00-0xec07, BIOS settings: hde:DMA,
 hdf:DMAide3: BM-DMA at 0xec08-0xec0f, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA,
 hdh:DMA
 
 insert the rest of his mind-numbing parititons here
 
 I'm with LX.  Jesus is not quite the statement I'd reach for tho,
 thats too much of an understatement!
  
  
  3 points.  
  
  1.  No answer on the 3com thing yet.
  2.  What's LX
  3.  I was at a lab the other day for a business meeting.  The have
  just under one PETAbyte of data in their Database server alone. 
  
 
 Holyu crap James! I bet it take a little while to do a few small
 queries on that monster! I can't even begin to imagine what a PETAbyte
 looks like.
 
 Mark

Oh about an 80 x 100 foot room... and actually most queries he said
take under 20 secs.  It's wild I was drooling.  They had one cluster
of 2000 linux boxes.  Right now they are all 1u's since blades still
aren't up to snuff.  This place rocked.


 
 
 
 



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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread Randy Kramer

et wrote:
 the moving target that a (IMHO) good Linux Distro should be is one of the
 greatest problems with creating book documentation, I would guess. by the
 time the reasearch and writting and printing and distribution of the paper
 goes out, it would be time for the next distro, with a number of improvments
 that would render the old book about as good as a 1970 phone book for Miami.
 the stuff flat out changed.
 It has been my experiance that the best documentation I can find is either
 refered to on is in this mail list (and the newbie list for installation) and
 some of the least fricton of any help method.

I'm hoping WikiLearn can help address this problem.  It's not there yet,
by any means, but take a look at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/AboutThesePages.

You can help, in any of these ways:

   * If you have a question, try seeing if it's answered on WikiLearn --
try http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/search/Wikilearn, or just click on search
from any WikiLearn page.  (Or try a Google search with site:twiki.org or
site:twiki.sourceforge.net in the search query.)
   * If it's not answered (or you don't think it's answered, after at
least some attempt at a search), try creating a WikiLearn page with the
question on it.  Post to expert (newbie, or any other mail list), saying
that you have a question about such and such and it's posted at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/name of WikiLearn page. 
Suggest that people answer the question on that page.
   * Register to edit WikiLearn at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration.
   * Subscribe to get a daily notification of page changes at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/WebNotify.
   * If you can answer a question, or help answer a question, edit the
page with the question appropriately.
   * If you are experienced in Linux, Perl, cgi, html, and other good
stuff, help me move WikiLearn to it's permanent location on
SourceForge.  Do a TWiki search on ToDo in page  (topic) names, or
help me set up utilities and procedures for things like backups and so
forth.

Notes: 

1. Pages can be renamed, so if the initial name for a page is not
intuitive / descriptive enough, the page name can be changed.  Usually,
it is a good idea to recreate the original page, delete all the
boilerplate text, and put a note there saying Moved to name of new
WikiLearn page.

2. WikiLearn is indexed on Google and similar web search engines.  On
Google, WikiLearn is indexed under two different domains, twiki.org and
twiki.sourceforge.net.  Last time I checked, the update cycle was 4 to 8
weeks, fortunately, sometimes the two domains are indexed at different
times, thus (sort of) indexing the site twice as often.

The content of this email has been moved to a WikiLearn page:
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Re: [expert] Postfix and gnu_pop3d

2002-06-18 Thread Richard Bonebrake


Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:
I believe your solution will also remove a valid lockfile, ain't it?

actually because it's specific to the file you're looking for it is only 
looking for a file which is so named in the variable. If that variable 
happens to be a lock file and there is no process running then wouldn't 
you want to remove the lockfile.

if you're concerned about removing a lockfile which is legal while a 
process is running then check for the process at the beginning of the 
script and if it is found then you can terminate the program, else, allow 
the program to complete.

Mark

I sent this the other day, maybe no one saw it. Anyway any help on a script 
like this would really help.


How do I do this? Can you give me an example of the script. Thanks



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Asquith Internet
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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:33:40 -0800 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 suppose you are typing
 
 rm -r /somepath/.somecorruptedconfigdir -f
 
 and at the point where you have typed
 
 rm -r /
 
 The cat jumps up to get your attention and lands a paw on Enter.

Here's one I did many years ago on a SunOS box (as root), thinking it
would delete only the path/.whatever files/directories:

  cd somepath
  rm -rf .*

Civileme or anyone else, the next time you have a system that's about to
be re-installed anyway, umount everything but the / and /usr partitions
and try:

  rm -rf /root/.*

I'm hoping today's rm does not follow ..; but it would be nice to know
for sure after all those years since I had to re-install that old Sparc...
 I've made a note to try this when 8.3/9.0 becomes available; but...  :^)

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[expert] USB 2 Support in MDK 8.2

2002-06-18 Thread Andy

Hi,

I'm trying to get USB 2 working under Mandrake 8.2, so far it fails to
operate correctly when I use -- alias usb-interface ehci-hcd in
modules.conf.  Motherboard has a VIA VT8235 southbridge.

If I use alias usb-interface usb-uhci then USB works fine as USB ver 1.0 
12 MB/s.  With 3 root hubs and 2 ports each.

I have a Epson C42UX and a Freecom FX-1 CD-RW which are both detected in
UsbView (/proc/bus/usb/devices) correctly and I have no problems printing,
(haven't tried the FX-1 yet).

As soon as I switch modules to alias usb-interface ehci-hcd the ehci
module is picked up and configured (or so messages log tells me), however
UsbView only reports 1 root hub (USB ver 2.0  480 MB/s) but with 6 ports!!

As soon as a device is plugged in get the following kernel error;

kernel: ehci-hub.c:  GetStatus port 1 status 0x1803 POWER speed=2 CSC
CONNECT
kernel: hub.c:  Cannot enable port 1 of hub 1, disabling port
kernel: hub.c:  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
kernel: ehci-hcd.c: 00:10.3: free_config devnum 0

Any ideas?

Thanks

Andy










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Re: [expert] wireless and pcmcia scripts/settings

2002-06-18 Thread Nicolas ROBAUX

Hi there !

Any feedback ? Does it work now ?

N.

Le lun 17/06/2002 à 11:49, Nicolas ROBAUX a écrit :
 
 
 Hi !
 
 I'm just like you : my dektop is Mdk 8.2/WinXP, and it was my gateway to
 the net for my laptop (under MDK 8.1/WinME)
 
 Le dim 16/06/2002 à 22:13, Praedor Tempus a écrit :
 
 
  I am also on the linux wlan list and am pulling my hair out trying to get 
 a
 
 Don't do that ! It is VERY easy, once you've understood where are the
 configuration files, and how they work !
 
 
  So, doesn't Mandrake use the scripts and config files in /etc/pcmcia for
  this?  There is a network.opts and wireless.opts in there.  Is this not 
 THE
  place that handles such settings?  One of my main problems here is that 
 no
 
 Nope, Mandrake and Red Hat don't use these files...
 
 Here is how it works :
 - All the settings of the PCMCIA cards are in
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 or ...eth1, even the settings
 for wireless (WIRELESS_MODE, WIRELESS_ESSID, WIRELESS_ENC_KEY,...)
 
 - /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup reads these settings, and calls
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless
 
 - /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless use these settings and
 call the tool /sbin/iwconfig, and set up your card with iwconfig and the
 settings.
 
 - You're done.
 
 So, the only thing you have to do is to add the following lines in your
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (if your PCMCIA Wireless card
 is known as eth0)
 WIRELESS_MODE = Ad-Hoc
 WIRELESS_ESSID = your-wireless-network-name
 WIRELESS_ENC_KEY = off (Yes ! I disabled encryption...)
 
 Just read your ifup and ifup-wireless files, for more information. And
 don't forget to read man iwconfig too !
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 N.
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread Randy Kramer

I added a 3rd note to
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/HowYouCanHelp, as follows, to
explicitly address the point of information becoming obsolete.  The
procedure is just one possibility, it is not cast in concrete.

quote
3. As information goes out of date, and new information applies to new
releases, I plan to preserve some old pages and implement a naming
convention to identify old and new information.  One possible scenario:
A question answered about kde 3.0 might be answered on a page named
ToastingRyeBreadWithKde.  When kde 3.1 comes out, we might copy that
entire page to a page named ToastingRyeBreadWithKde30, and add a note to
the ToastingRyeBreadWithKde page saying that the information was
developed for kde 3.0 and may need modification for 3.1.  As time goes
on, the page will (should) get modified appropriately.  At the next
release of kde, the process is repeated.
/quote

Randy Kramer

Randy Kramer wrote:
 
 et wrote:
  the moving target that a (IMHO) good Linux Distro should be is one of the
  greatest problems with creating book documentation, I would guess. by the
  time the reasearch and writting and printing and distribution of the paper
  goes out, it would be time for the next distro, with a number of improvments
  that would render the old book about as good as a 1970 phone book for Miami.
  the stuff flat out changed.
  It has been my experiance that the best documentation I can find is either
  refered to on is in this mail list (and the newbie list for installation) and
  some of the least fricton of any help method.
 
 I'm hoping WikiLearn can help address this problem.  It's not there yet,
 by any means, but take a look at
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/AboutThesePages.
 
 You can help, in any of these ways:
 
* If you have a question, try seeing if it's answered on WikiLearn --
 try http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/search/Wikilearn, or just click on search
 from any WikiLearn page.  (Or try a Google search with site:twiki.org or
 site:twiki.sourceforge.net in the search query.)
* If it's not answered (or you don't think it's answered, after at
 least some attempt at a search), try creating a WikiLearn page with the
 question on it.  Post to expert (newbie, or any other mail list), saying
 that you have a question about such and such and it's posted at
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/name of WikiLearn page.
 Suggest that people answer the question on that page.
* Register to edit WikiLearn at
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration.
* Subscribe to get a daily notification of page changes at
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/WebNotify.
* If you can answer a question, or help answer a question, edit the
 page with the question appropriately.
* If you are experienced in Linux, Perl, cgi, html, and other good
 stuff, help me move WikiLearn to it's permanent location on
 SourceForge.  Do a TWiki search on ToDo in page  (topic) names, or
 help me set up utilities and procedures for things like backups and so
 forth.
 
 Notes:
 
 1. Pages can be renamed, so if the initial name for a page is not
 intuitive / descriptive enough, the page name can be changed.  Usually,
 it is a good idea to recreate the original page, delete all the
 boilerplate text, and put a note there saying Moved to name of new
 WikiLearn page.
 
 2. WikiLearn is indexed on Google and similar web search engines.  On
 Google, WikiLearn is indexed under two different domains, twiki.org and
 twiki.sourceforge.net.  Last time I checked, the update cycle was 4 to 8
 weeks, fortunately, sometimes the two domains are indexed at different
 times, thus (sort of) indexing the site twice as often.
 
 The content of this email has been moved to a WikiLearn page:
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/HowYouCanHelp.
 
 Randy Kramer
 
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Re: [expert] Postfix and gnu_pop3d

2002-06-18 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Richard Bonebrake wrote:

 
 Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:
 I believe your solution will also remove a valid lockfile, ain't it?
 
 actually because it's specific to the file you're looking for it is only 
 looking for a file which is so named in the variable. If that variable 
 happens to be a lock file and there is no process running then wouldn't 
 you want to remove the lockfile.
 
 if you're concerned about removing a lockfile which is legal while a 
 process is running then check for the process at the beginning of the 
 script and if it is found then you can terminate the program, else, allow 
 the program to complete.
 
 Mark
 
 I sent this the other day, maybe no one saw it. Anyway any help on a script 
 like this would really help.
 
 
 How do I do this? Can you give me an example of the script. Thanks
 
 
 
 Richard D. Bonebrake
 Asquith Internet
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
Hi Richard,

Actually I did see your post and responded to it, but the list(s) seem to 
be experiencing some growing pains again and the message went haplessly 
into the ether. 

At any rate, when I saw your post asking this question the other day I 
started hacking away at it. since this is my first time at checking for 
a running process via a shell script we're somewhat in the same boat. I 
was about half way there when I got side-tracked by a few things that have 
held my attention since then.

If you don't mind learning it together we can continue this, unless of 
course someone more knowledgeable in shell scripting chooses to supply the 
concise answer to this question. We can also of course do this on or off 
list. either way is fine with me. I personally would prefer to do it 
onlist so that it's in the archives for others to access, however some may 
prefer that since it's not directly on-topic with this mailing list 
that the thread be taken off-list.

since we already know how to check for the existence of the .lock file 
itself all we need to do now is check for a running process. With that in 
mind this is where I'm currently at with this:

#
# detecting the running process
#
proc=`ps r|grep process-name`  # the apostrophe looking character is
 # NOT an apostrophe and is necessary
 # for the entire command with arguments
 # to be loaded into the variable

As soon as I get a chance I'll intend to workout just how to get the 
results of $proc into another variable so that you can run a kill 
command on the pid that is returned if the process exists. 

-- 
daRmaTTeR

R L U: #186492
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[expert] Error with a large File

2002-06-18 Thread INGNAR ALEJANDRO FREY ROS

I am using dd and netcat to save the image of cd from one computer to
another.

on the machine with the cd I do
dd if=/dev/cdrom | gzip | nc 192.168.1.1 12300

on the server (which is running Mandrake 8.2)I do
nc -l -p 12300  disc.img

But after the server has received about 130megs.  The pipe breaks and
says this error message:

file too large






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Re: [expert] Postfix and gnu_pop3d

2002-06-18 Thread Randy Kramer

daRcmaTTeR wrote:
 #
 # detecting the running process
 #
 proc=`ps r|grep process-name`  # the apostrophe looking character is
  # NOT an apostrophe and is necessary
  # for the entire command with arguments
  # to be loaded into the variable

Mark,

Thanks for this -- I like your coding / commenting style!  I know some
of the experienced bashers might not, but it sure is helpful for a
newbie.  ;-) 

No doubt, this will find it's way to WikiLearn, maybe after you
publish the entire script.

Nah, I won't wait, I'll put it on a page:
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/BashCheckForARunningProcess --
we can change the name when/if someone thinks of something more
appropriate.

Feel free to use this WikiLearn page as your whiteboard for
collaboration while you work out the rest of it.

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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 01:18, James wrote:

  insert the rest of his mind-numbing parititons here
  
  I'm with LX.  Jesus is not quite the statement I'd reach for tho,
  thats too much of an understatement!
 
 3 points.  
 
 1.  No answer on the 3com thing yet.
 2.  What's LX

That I can answer. ;)  LX happens to be my initials.  I put them out
there so nobody has to learn how to spell my name.  ;)  Faster for
everyone to type, too.

 3.  I was at a lab the other day for a business meeting.  The have just
 under one PETAbyte of data in their Database server alone. 
  -- 
  Femme

That's understandable for businesses, but was all that drive capacity
the property of Peter Ruskin personally?  Maybe I misunderstood and he
was emailing from work or something.  Just curious.

Best Regards,

LX


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[expert] Qmail auto-forward?

2002-06-18 Thread Barry Michels

Is there a way to get qmail to automatically forward everything it receives?
I would like qmail to get the incoming mail and pass it on, unaltered to our
Exchange Server.  Hopefully without adding all the user accounts to our
Linux box.
Eventually, I would have qmail filter the mail before passing it on, but
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[expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread Vasiliy Boulytchev



Ladies and Gents,
 I'm having the following 
problem: Time changes every time I reboot the server. I keep 
changing it back, but the problem still persists. I did work with hwclock, 
tzselect and all that. I can do "export TZ=MDT" to change the timezone, 
but as soon as I log out, it kicks back so it seems that this is only for the 
user. This is really messing my day up. Can someone point me in the 
right direction so I can RTFM about this. Again, here is the 
problem:

1.) I can't keep the timezone set correctly on the 
server. Does it get its values from the hardware clock?

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!

Regards,Vasiliy BoulytchevColorado 
Information Technologies Inc.


Re: [expert] USB 2 Support in MDK 8.2

2002-06-18 Thread Larry Sword

Since you have both a USB1.0 and a USB2.0 what happens when you use both 
statements in you modules.conf file?

alias usb-interface usb-uhci
alias usb-interface ehci-hcd

Larry

Andy wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to get USB 2 working under Mandrake 8.2, so far it fails to
 operate correctly when I use -- alias usb-interface ehci-hcd in
 modules.conf.  Motherboard has a VIA VT8235 southbridge.
 
 If I use alias usb-interface usb-uhci then USB works fine as USB ver 1.0 
 12 MB/s.  With 3 root hubs and 2 ports each.
 
 I have a Epson C42UX and a Freecom FX-1 CD-RW which are both detected in
 UsbView (/proc/bus/usb/devices) correctly and I have no problems printing,
 (haven't tried the FX-1 yet).
 
 As soon as I switch modules to alias usb-interface ehci-hcd the ehci
 module is picked up and configured (or so messages log tells me), however
 UsbView only reports 1 root hub (USB ver 2.0  480 MB/s) but with 6 ports!!
 
 As soon as a device is plugged in get the following kernel error;
 
 kernel: ehci-hub.c:  GetStatus port 1 status 0x1803 POWER speed=2 CSC
 CONNECT
 kernel: hub.c:  Cannot enable port 1 of hub 1, disabling port
 kernel: hub.c:  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
 kernel: ehci-hcd.c: 00:10.3: free_config devnum 0
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks
 
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[expert] Winex Benchmarks from Dr Tom

2002-06-18 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

Thought you guys might be interested in this; it's an evaluation of
winex versus native linux games, with Quake 3 Arena as one of the
barometers.

There are other games tested as well.  This was in an older Dr Tom
newsletter that I overlooked, I don't usually check the non-list mail on
a regular basis.

Don't expect the winex benches to be spectacular; it ain't happenin
yet.  They're still getting everything streamlined.

Oh..and by the waytake a guess as to which Linux distro Dr Tom used
for these benchmarks?  I'll save you the suspense...it was our old
friend Mandrake Linux 8.2!!  Woohoo, Mandrake making a dent, baby.

http://195.200.172.1/I?X=f7dd7cc8290b684fb681ebedd6fecd1e

FYI,  LX

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Re: [expert] Winex Benchmarks from Dr Tom

2002-06-18 Thread darklord

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 12:48 pm, you wrote:
 Thought you guys might be interested in this; it's an evaluation of
 winex versus native linux games, with Quake 3 Arena as one of the
 barometers.

I know I'm certainly interested! Thanks...

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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 01:23, James wrote:

 In general I couldn't agree more.  But when you are moving into the less
 than common world of File System changes, Serving Gigs of Data,
 Disconnected Users etc.   Books do come in handy.  The exact feature may
 change but the theory and general application don't.  That is what I
 spend 50 a pop on.  (And God and my wife both know that I wouldn't have
 gotten anywhere without Using Unix 1st edition I bought years ago.) 
 
 James
 

How about Tricks of the Unix Masters? Russell G. Sage, Circa 1987.
That was my first one.  ;)

LX


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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Tuesday 18 Jun 2002 17:34, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 01:18, James wrote:
   insert the rest of his mind-numbing parititons here
  
   I'm with LX.  Jesus is not quite the statement I'd reach for tho,
   thats too much of an understatement!
 
  3 points.
 
  1.  No answer on the 3com thing yet.
  2.  What's LX

 That I can answer. ;)  LX happens to be my initials.  I put them out
 there so nobody has to learn how to spell my name.  ;)  Faster for
 everyone to type, too.

  3.  I was at a lab the other day for a business meeting.  The have
  just under one PETAbyte of data in their Database server alone.
 
   --
   Femme

 That's understandable for businesses, but was all that drive capacity
 the property of Peter Ruskin personally?  Maybe I misunderstood and he
 was emailing from work or something.  Just curious.

Too old to work - I'm as good as retired now (bus pass from December).

 Best Regards,

 LX

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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread g

bill,

 Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:

 Time changes every time I reboot the server.

a week cmos battery on mainboard _can_ cause bios clock errors
during a reboot.

a dead cmos battery _will_ cause bios clock to reset every time
system is powered down.

system time is an root/admin responsibility. not a user.

btw, speaking for myself and a couple of others, i filter
_all_ messages for 'html' and read last or later. some never.

reason, it seems that most html messages are at a smaller type size
that plain text. to read said messages, i have to change mail reader
configs to conform to those who use ms ole, aol, or what ever else
they use and claim not to know how to disable html. [surprising how
many *user* folk there are who do not know how to use 'help']

there for, for you to be sure your post are read as soon as possible
by all followers of these list, please disable html. it may one day
be to your advantage to do so.


tc,hago.

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[expert] lost keyboard mouse

2002-06-18 Thread Ken Hawkins

Just installed 8.2 on a p200MMX machine. Everything installed fine until
after reboot. I lose the mouse AND keyboard at graphical login.

If I start in maintenance mode, both function normally. I can log in,
run linuxconf and other programs no problem. But the moment I go into X,
I lose them. 

Any info greatly appreciated

Ken
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[expert] wu-ftpd and (import / NFS mount )

2002-06-18 Thread Rodrigo Sanchez Olavarria

Dear Experts..
I  made a symbolic link within the anonymous tree, but it doesn't
work... (I can't get the directory ..), .. yes, I made a mistake,
because the symbolic links are relative to my active root.. so, the
solution, following the FAQ's, is:


... If you want to access files/directories/diskspace outside your 
chrooted environment, you'll have to import it using directory loopback 
mounts (available on at least Solaris) or using NFS mounts (available on 
most other operating systems but they have a performance impact)...


...well, I have been trying to mount , but without any success.. I
really don't know how to:

...import it using directory loopback(import ? )

or:
...using NFS mounts ..   (does exist a loopback option ?)


Thanks in advance,

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Re: [expert] Postfix and gnu_pop3d

2002-06-18 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:05:55 -0400 (EDT) daRcmaTTeR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 #
 # detecting the running process
 #
 proc=`ps r|grep process-name`  # the apostrophe looking character is
# NOT an apostrophe and is necessary
# for the entire command with arguments
# to be loaded into the variable

Mark,

This can also be done with just the ps command...  Here's an example of
what I use in my crontab... 

if [ -z `/bin/ps --no-headers -j -C program` ]; then \
/usr/bin/program; fi

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Re: [expert] Postfix and gnu_pop3d

2002-06-18 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Randy Kramer wrote:

 daRcmaTTeR wrote:
  #
  # detecting the running process
  #
  proc=`ps r|grep process-name`  # the apostrophe looking character is
   # NOT an apostrophe and is necessary
   # for the entire command with arguments
   # to be loaded into the variable
 
 Mark,
 
 Thanks for this -- I like your coding / commenting style!  I know some
 of the experienced bashers might not, but it sure is helpful for a
 newbie.  ;-) 
 
 No doubt, this will find it's way to WikiLearn, maybe after you
 publish the entire script.
 
 Nah, I won't wait, I'll put it on a page:
 http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/BashCheckForARunningProcess --
 we can change the name when/if someone thinks of something more
 appropriate.
 
 Feel free to use this WikiLearn page as your whiteboard for
 collaboration while you work out the rest of it.
 
 regards,
 Randy Kramer
 
You know Randy...in light of our past conversations about WikiLearn I 
don't know why I didn't think of that to begin with. doh! sorry about 
that. That _is_ a wonderful idea though. I take that heads up and begin to 
post the information there.

by the way...as an asside..sorry for the long absence. I've been busier 
then a long-tailed cat in a room full O rockin chairs lately and haven't 
had any time to spend on the WikiLearn project. a situation I intend to 
rectify shortly.  :) 

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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread civileme

Bill Davidson wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:10:16 +0300
Chavdar Videff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,
There is something I would like to ask - when I configure my GUI I use
the Mandrake Control Center - Hardware - Display.
Everything is fine - my graphics adapter is recognized correctly, the 
colour depth is selected properly, however I did not see an option to 
change the refresh rate of the monitor - and it is annoying for it
uses adapter default which is 60 Hz. I doubt in the functionality of
the Xfree86config tool where there is an option for refresh rate
properties. How can I set up my monitor refresh rate and is there a
way as easy as the one windows provides (it was an issue a friend of
mine pointed out when I tried to convince him that Mandrake linux is
the best and he should forget all about M$).
BTW I am using Mandrake 8.1
Thanks in advance.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It may not sound easy, but you could edit /etc/XF86Config-4 manually.
The file is commented well and the relevent lines are easy to find.
Other than that, I was going to suggest the 'xf86config' command, but
since you don't seem to like it...

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Sheesh

Unless you have one of those that gets skipped, just test the 
configuration and let it fail by not answering in 10 seconds, then the 
monitor refresh opens up to you.

If you have one of those that skips the test, then open a terminal 
window, su to root and

# XFdrake --expert --noauto

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Re: [expert] Postfix and gnu_pop3d

2002-06-18 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Pierre Fortin wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:05:55 -0400 (EDT) daRcmaTTeR
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  #
  # detecting the running process
  #
  proc=`ps r|grep process-name`  # the apostrophe looking character is
   # NOT an apostrophe and is necessary
   # for the entire command with arguments
   # to be loaded into the variable
 
 Mark,
 
 This can also be done with just the ps command...  Here's an example of
 what I use in my crontab... 
 
 if [ -z `/bin/ps --no-headers -j -C program` ]; then \
 /usr/bin/program; fi
 
 HTH,
 Pierre
 
 
Pierre! 

That was absolutely awesome! thank you. :) I hadn't thought of doing it 
that way, i think primarily because I'm not very familiar yet with the 
bash -flags yet. However I see something coming together here.

Richard: can you help me remember again what it is that we're looking for 
here again? I mean, what process is it that we're testing for?

process == running program /* and can someone
* please tell me
* what those little
* nicks on the tilda
* key are ( ` )?
*/ 

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[expert] lost keyboard mouse

2002-06-18 Thread Ken Hawkins

This is a follow-up on my previous message


|Just installed 8.2 on a p200MMX machine. Everything installed fine until
|after reboot. I lose the mouse AND keyboard at graphical login.
|
|If I start in maintenance mode, both function normally. I can log in,
|run linuxconf and other programs no problem. But the moment I go into X,
|I lose them. 
|
|Any info greatly appreciated

|Ken
|PS KB and mouse work fine in winblows and on other linux comps

I tried XFdrake, and everything is fine until I go to test the settings, then I lose 
KB and mouse again.

I can't CTRLALTF1 to a console or anything. I haven't had to perform this many 
hard resets since 
Winblows 95, and it's hard to sell other on MDK, when it there is so much trouble with 
something as simple
a generic standard PS/2 mouse  KB. 

Hardware:
Intel P200MMX
160mb RAM
S3 Virge/DX** could this be the culprit?
3 hdd's
1Cdrom

I will note that ALL of the hardware is detected and runs fine under winblows 98, and 
the KB and mouse
in question have tested fine on other comps.




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Re: [expert] pros and cons of mandrake

2002-06-18 Thread Robert Fargher

On June 18, 2002 12:33 am, civileme wrote:

 I don't know about you, but 98% of the time my computer has a problem,
 the problem has its hands on my keyboard,

  That is a well known and ubiquitous phenomenon.  Formally, it is called a 
PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair).  g

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[expert] Using remote x server

2002-06-18 Thread Joan Tur

Hallo!

I'm planning using old computers (P75) as X terminals of a higher-powered 
server (XP1600+).  I'll have 3 clients connected to this server, all of them 
with 17 monitors.

I'd like to find a tutorial for me to be able to do this... where can I find 
one (or some help)?  8-?

Thanks!  ;)
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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread Jerry Kreps

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On Tuesday 18 June 2002 11:01 am, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:
 Ladies and Gents,
 I'm having the following problem:  Time changes every time I reboot the
 server.  I keep changing it back, but the problem still persists.  I did
 work with hwclock, tzselect and all that.  I can do export TZ=MDT to
 change the timezone, but as soon as I log out, it kicks back so it seems
 that this is only for the user.  This is really messing my day up.  Can
 someone point me in the right direction so I can RTFM about this.  Again,
 here is the problem:

 1.) I can't keep the timezone set correctly on the server.  Does it get its
 values from the hardware clock?

 THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!

 Regards,
 Vasiliy Boulytchev
 Colorado Information Technologies Inc.

Installed xntp, if it wan't already installed.
I have a script in /etc/cron/cron.hourly called settime with the execute 
attribute set.  The script contains:
#!/bin/bash
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -b 199.240.130.1

In the config file /etc/ntp.conf  I added the two server lines below 'fudge'
server  127.127.1.0 # local clock
fudge   127.127.1.0 stratum 10  
server  199.240.130.1   # ntp1.kansas.net
server  199.240.130.12  # ntp2.kansas.net
in case I ever make xntpd an active service.
But, once an hour, my clock gets the latest setting from a time server.

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Re: [expert] Error with a large File

2002-06-18 Thread Jerry Kreps

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On Tuesday 18 June 2002 10:25 am, INGNAR ALEJANDRO FREY ROS wrote:
 I am using dd and netcat to save the image of cd from one computer to
 another.

 on the machine with the cd I do
 dd if=/dev/cdrom | gzip | nc 192.168.1.1 12300

 on the server (which is running Mandrake 8.2)I do
 nc -l -p 12300  disc.img

 But after the server has received about 130megs.  The pipe breaks and
 says this error message:

 file too large

Is the Mandrake box an Athlon by chance?

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[expert] 8.2 msec security issue

2002-06-18 Thread Dodd, David J

Mandrake 8.2 has a default security setting that leaves users' home
directories world readable.  I just read that you can enter other user's
home directories and subdirectories and read the files.  The Mandrake
msec level by default choice is Standard.  If you chmod each user's home
dir to 700, upon reboot it reverts back to what it was before.  If
setting are changed in the Mandrake Control Center from Standard to High
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Re: [expert] Using remote x server

2002-06-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Tue 18 Jun 2002 22:29, Joan Tur wrote:
 Hallo!

 I'm planning using old computers (P75) as X terminals of a higher-powered
 server (XP1600+).  I'll have 3 clients connected to this server, all of
 them with 17 monitors.

 I'd like to find a tutorial for me to be able to do this... where can I
 find one (or some help)?  8-?

 Thanks!  ;)

If you haven't already looked: http://www.ltsp.org has some very nice stuff.
it's more of a HOWTO than a tutorial though. And includes lots of useful 
software links:o)

http://ebusiness.gbdirect.co.uk/case_studies/xterminal.html has some nice 
stuff too.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread ollyplaine

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 05:28:35PM +0100, g wrote:
 btw, speaking for myself and a couple of others, i filter
 _all_ messages for 'html' and read last or later. some never.
 
 reason, it seems that most html messages are at a smaller type size
 that plain text. to read said messages, i have to change mail reader
 configs to conform to those who use ms ole, aol, or what ever else
 they use and claim not to know how to disable html. [surprising how
 many *user* folk there are who do not know how to use 'help']
 
 there for, for you to be sure your post are read as soon as possible
 by all followers of these list, please disable html. it may one day
 be to your advantage to do so.
 

-
Tue Jun 18 15:40:59 CDT 2002 

No g, they are telling you the truth...there is no way to disable HTML
in the latest AOL packages...your way of kill filtering is I think the
best way,,,you probably are not missing much. A work around for aol
people seems to be to send from one of the free web based mail systems
for anything on a mailing list that does not appreciate junky HTML.


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[expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread iggy

my system locks when shutting down/rebooting with this error message umount: 
/net: device is busy.

reinstalled to make sure i didn't have a bad install (it did happen, once).  
got the same error message.

my system is a:  amd athlon xp 1700 w/ 256 mb ram, msi motherboard, 40 gb 
hard drive, cd and dvd rom drives, dlink network card (and hub)

any help will be greatly appreciated.
-iggy

ps,
not afraid of RTFM, but have been unsuccessful in finding any references to 
my particular problem.



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[expert] An add I just recieved.

2002-06-18 Thread James

All,


   Just got this in a peice of spam I'll quote only the first two
lines

  Windows XP has arrived... and you need 
  to eliminate the learning curve quickly.


So I did .. I only run Linux.*grin*

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Re: [expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread Gavin Laking

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:30:14 -0400
iggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 my system locks when shutting down/rebooting with this error message umount: 
 /net: device is busy.
 
 reinstalled to make sure i didn't have a bad install (it did happen, once).  
 got the same error message.

Hi,

Are you sure its locked or are you being impatient? I'm not being rude by asking you- 
my system sometimes takes an absolute age to unmount certain drives and sometimes it 
could have been mistaken for locking-up. If you are really sure that it is locking, 
then maybe you can run 'sync' several times (this flushes buffers to hard disk) in a 
terminal and then unmount your drives manually before shutting down. If the problem 
goes away then there maybe a permissions problem somewhere. If the problem persists, 
then excuse me for shrugging. :-)

Hope that helps,

G

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Re: [expert] An add I just recieved.

2002-06-18 Thread Gavin Laking

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:25:33 -0700
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Windows XP has arrived... and you need 
 to eliminate the learning curve quickly.
  
 So I did .. I only run Linux.*grin*
 

Hi,

You might like to add this to your ~/.procmailrc file:

:0
* ^From.*spammeraddress
/dev/null

That eliminates idiots too. :-)

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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread Tom Badran

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 No g, they are telling you the truth...there is no way to disable HTML
 in the latest AOL packages...your way of kill filtering is I think the
 best way,,,you probably are not missing much. A work around for aol
 people seems to be to send from one of the free web based mail systems
 for anything on a mailing list that does not appreciate junky HTML.

Why would someone using AOL be posting a linux mailing list?

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Re: [expert] An add I just recieved.

2002-06-18 Thread Damian G

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:25:33 -0700
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All,
 
 
Just got this in a peice of spam I'll quote only the first two
 lines
 
   Windows XP has arrived... and you need 
   to eliminate the learning curve quickly.
 
 
 So I did .. I only run Linux.*grin*
 
 James
 

learning curve... the only learning curve in Windoze XP
is 'learning how to stop using your brain'...

the media player convers audio files to the format it wants ( wma. 
and if you try to make an mp3, you get a wma, and a nice notify message
listing the great advantages of the wma format )..

the drivers get automatically chosen and installed, even if they
are not working, and there's nothing you can do to prevent it..

you get stupid little hints that explain things a 5 year old 
can understand.. 

ah, yes, they removed the stupid clippy from office, but now
in the allmighty XP you get a stupider dog in the search file dialog ;oP

XP was one of the main reasons i hardly ever boot a win partition anymore simply 
beacuse the learning curve was a brainwashing curve.


i've seen an ad on TV about hose electronic gadgets they sell to
exercise and loose weight.. it's something like a big strap with
which you wrap your arm or leg, and turn it on.. then your
muscles in that area starts twitching grossly with electric
impulses while te voice in the add says your muscles exercise
just like the order was coming from your brain!!! 

 i guess that means this 'device' is designed to replace my
brain? finally we'll be freed from the inmensely difficult task
of THINKING well, i won't be waiting in line to buy one
of those devices anytime soon, and the same goes for eXPee... ;o)


( how's that for a machines taking over movie script. hehehe... )


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Re: [expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread PlugHead

 my system locks when shutting down/rebooting with this error message
 umount: /net: device is busy.

I used to get that alot.   I think it has something to do with amd/autofs.  My 
solution was to edit /etc/amd.conf--comment out the [ /net ] section and see 
if that helps.  It's not a great solution, but if you don't use /net, then 
chances are it'll work for you.  

I'm wondering if it's some sort of conflict between amd and autofs.  If you 
really need /net, you might want to check that angle out.

HTH,
-Jason


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not to injure yourself falling down the steps on the way to the cells. You 
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Re: [expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread Gavin Laking

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:11:56 -0400
iggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 18 June 2002 07:51 pm, you wrote:
 i thought the same thing, maybe i was being impatient.  so when i was 
 shutting down earlier today i waited until i got the same error message then 
 left (took my mower to the repair shop).  when i arrieved i still had the 
 error message and the machine was locked.

Yeah, that sounds like a lock to me. I only suggested the wait because I've killed the 
computer shutting down and had to sit through 35 minutes of e2fsck, with my fingers 
crossed. [It found no errors... but still.]

 when running the sync command, do i run just 'sync' or does it need any 
 paramaters?  (can you tell i'm a little new?) 

Just sync on its own:

[web@eventhorizon web]$ sync
[web@eventhorizon web]$ 

I run it a couple of times just to make sure its put all of the buffers out to disk.

Hope that helps, though I think 'PlugHead' has some better solutions. :-)

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Re: [expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread et

and do you _NEED_ netfs? what sorta network are you on? maybe the answer 
would be to turn off services you don't need to have running. and not have 
them start at bootup


On Tuesday 18 June 2002 06:30 pm, you wrote:
 my system locks when shutting down/rebooting with this error message
 umount: /net: device is busy.

 reinstalled to make sure i didn't have a bad install (it did happen, once).
 got the same error message.

 my system is a:  amd athlon xp 1700 w/ 256 mb ram, msi motherboard, 40 gb
 hard drive, cd and dvd rom drives, dlink network card (and hub)

 any help will be greatly appreciated.
 -iggy

 ps,
 not afraid of RTFM, but have been unsuccessful in finding any references to
 my particular problem.



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[expert] Strange error from rpm

2002-06-18 Thread James

When I do  rpm -bb --target i586 somfile.spec  on my install I get 


Finding  Requires: (using /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires)...
sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression
sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression
sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression
sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression

snip_

with the sed line repeated for a couple of minutes then it goes ahead
and finishes the build of the rpm   This happens no matter what rpm I'm
building or no matter who the spec comes from..  I'm running 8.2
with the stock rpm packages from the powerpack edition. Anyone else see
this or have any idea what is happening?

James



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Re: [expert] lost keyboard mouse

2002-06-18 Thread et

this could be a plug and pray problem, is plug and pray aware OS set to off 
in the computer BIOS? post the output from cat /proc/interrupts (with out 
the quotes)


On Tuesday 18 June 2002 01:16 pm, you wrote:
 This is a follow-up on my previous message

 |Just installed 8.2 on a p200MMX machine. Everything installed fine until
 |after reboot. I lose the mouse AND keyboard at graphical login.
 |
 |If I start in maintenance mode, both function normally. I can log in,
 |run linuxconf and other programs no problem. But the moment I go into X,
 |I lose them.
 |
 |Any info greatly appreciated
 |
 |Ken
 |PS KB and mouse work fine in winblows and on other linux comps

 I tried XFdrake, and everything is fine until I go to test the settings,
 then I lose KB and mouse again.

 I can't CTRLALTF1 to a console or anything. I haven't had to perform
 this many hard resets since Winblows 95, and it's hard to sell other on
 MDK, when it there is so much trouble with something as simple a generic
 standard PS/2 mouse  KB.

 Hardware:
 Intel P200MMX
 160mb RAM
 S3 Virge/DX** could this be the culprit?
 3 hdd's
 1Cdrom

 I will note that ALL of the hardware is detected and runs fine under
 winblows 98, and the KB and mouse in question have tested fine on other
 comps.



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Re: [expert] lost keyboard mouse

2002-06-18 Thread et

is this an IBM laptop? what is the effect of a cold and hard reboot? (shut 
down, let cool, 10 mins reboot)


On Tuesday 18 June 2002 01:16 pm, you wrote:
 This is a follow-up on my previous message

 |Just installed 8.2 on a p200MMX machine. Everything installed fine until
 |after reboot. I lose the mouse AND keyboard at graphical login.
 |
 |If I start in maintenance mode, both function normally. I can log in,
 |run linuxconf and other programs no problem. But the moment I go into X,
 |I lose them.
 |
 |Any info greatly appreciated
 |
 |Ken
 |PS KB and mouse work fine in winblows and on other linux comps

 I tried XFdrake, and everything is fine until I go to test the settings,
 then I lose KB and mouse again.

 I can't CTRLALTF1 to a console or anything. I haven't had to perform
 this many hard resets since Winblows 95, and it's hard to sell other on
 MDK, when it there is so much trouble with something as simple a generic
 standard PS/2 mouse  KB.

 Hardware:
 Intel P200MMX
 160mb RAM
 S3 Virge/DX** could this be the culprit?
 3 hdd's
 1Cdrom

 I will note that ALL of the hardware is detected and runs fine under
 winblows 98, and the KB and mouse in question have tested fine on other
 comps.



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[expert] Opening URL's in Sylpheed

2002-06-18 Thread Kirtis B

Okay, so i now have the latest version of sylpheed and i want to be able to open URL's 
in Mozilla 1.0 because manually copying is a PITA. =)

Anway i did some research and looked up www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html which says 
that the command to open up a new URL in a currently open mozilla session is:

mozilla -remote openurl(http://www.whatever.com)  

So that's what i put in under Configuration - Common Preferences.. - Other - Web 
Browser.  I also tried entering the url part of openurl in lower and upper case.

(I replaced the www.whatever.com with %s of course)


Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work.  Is it possible that Sylpheed doesn't support 
Mozilla 1.0 or am i doing something wrong?

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Re: [expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread iggy

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 07:42 pm, you wrote:

thank you for your time.  i am a newbie whose been doing research trying to 
learn by purchasing books and magazines, reading on line, etc...

i did not have this problem when using mandrake 8.0 powerpack.  started 
having this problem when i upgraded to 8.2 download edition.  the problem is 
that i do not know which services i need and which i can do without.  is 
there any references that i can research to guide me?  and which service do i 
need to disable to disable netfs?

thanks again, to everybody
-iggy
post script, 
thought this might be to advanced for the newbie mailing list so i thought 
i'd give you folks a try.

 and do you _NEED_ netfs? what sorta network are you on? maybe the answer
 would be to turn off services you don't need to have running. and not have
 them start at bootup

 On Tuesday 18 June 2002 06:30 pm, you wrote:
  my system locks when shutting down/rebooting with this error message
  umount: /net: device is busy.
 
  reinstalled to make sure i didn't have a bad install (it did happen,
  once). got the same error message.
 
  my system is a:  amd athlon xp 1700 w/ 256 mb ram, msi motherboard, 40 gb
  hard drive, cd and dvd rom drives, dlink network card (and hub)
 
  any help will be greatly appreciated.
  -iggy
 
  ps,
  not afraid of RTFM, but have been unsuccessful in finding any references
  to my particular problem.



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Re: [expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread Jerry Kreps

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 05:30 pm, iggy wrote:
 my system locks when shutting down/rebooting with this error message
 umount: /net: device is busy.

I noticed that when I disabled Supermount and installed my own mount/umount 
desktop icons, this problem appeared.  The cause was related to the binding 
of Konqueror, which I was using to access the mounted CDROM, to the mounted 
drive.  Changing the display to another subdirectory other than /mnt or 
anything underneath didn't help.  I had to close Konqueror before the CDROM 
before the umount would work.Konqueror, Mozilla and Galeon have children 
thread services which can stay in memory, locking a mounted device, or a 
kio_uiserver deamon.  Try closing those with KDE System Guard.



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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread James

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:02:29 +0100
Tom Badran [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority

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 On Tuesday 18 Jun 2002 9:46 pm, ollyplaine wrote:
  -
  Tue Jun 18 15:40:59 CDT 2002
 
  No g, they are telling you the truth...there is no way to disable
  HTML in the latest AOL packages...your way of kill filtering is I
  think the best way,,,you probably are not missing much. A work
  around for aol people seems to be to send from one of the free web
  based mail systems for anything on a mailing list that does not
  appreciate junky HTML.
 
 Why would someone using AOL be posting a linux mailing list?


In many areas it's the ONLY way to get on the net.. ask my brother. 
It's AOL or carrier pigeon for him.

James

 
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Re: [expert] 8.2 msec security issue

2002-06-18 Thread Michael Viron

700 is fine as long as you don't want your users to have webpages.  If you
don't plan to allow them to have a website (or no one uses it but
yourself), then you can have it set to 700.  If you have the user as a
member in the apache group, and have the directory owned by the apache
group, then you can remove the execute permission from other (not sure what
mode that is).  Basically:

user part of apache group - can enter the directory, but not list anything.
 Even if they do know the specific name of a file in the directory, they
won't be able to write to it unless it is both owned by the apache group
and writable by the apache group (or has write permission enabled for other).

user not part of apache group - cannot enter directory, can't list anything.

If you want to keep websites enabled for your users, that's basically the
best you're going to do, other than locking down any unneeded services.

[root@server home]# su - mvirontest
[mvirontest@server mvirontest]$ ls
tmp/
[mvirontest@server mvirontest]$ cd ..
[mvirontest@server home]$ cd mviron
[mvirontest@server mviron]$ ls
ls: .: Permission denied
[mvirontest@server mviron]$ ls -al
ls: .: Permission denied
[mvirontest@server mviron]$

Michael Viron
Project Manager / Primary Developer  Manager of Online Operations
General Education Online

At 02:42 PM 6/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset=iso-8859-1

Mandrake 8.2 has a default security setting that leaves users' home
directories world readable.  I just read that you can enter other user's
home directories and subdirectories and read the files.  The Mandrake
msec level by default choice is Standard.  If you chmod each user's home
dir to 700, upon reboot it reverts back to what it was before.  If
setting are changed in the Mandrake Control Center from Standard to High
then users home dir is 711, 700 would be better though.  Any thoughts?

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Re: [expert] Strange error from rpm

2002-06-18 Thread Jerry Kreps

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 06:26 pm, James wrote:
 When I do  rpm -bb --target i586 somfile.spec  on my install I get


 Finding  Requires: (using /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires)...
 sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression
 sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression
 sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression
 sed: -e expression #1, char 4: No previous regular expression

 snip_

 with the sed line repeated for a couple of minutes then it goes ahead
 and finishes the build of the rpm   This happens no matter what rpm I'm
 building or no matter who the spec comes from..  I'm running 8.2
 with the stock rpm packages from the powerpack edition. Anyone else see
 this or have any idea what is happening?

 James

What does rpm   --rebuilddb do, as root?

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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread David Rankin


Why not just install xntpd, run it as a daemon, and it will update every
few seconds. From what I can tell it has a light footprint or demand on
system resources. That doesn't solve the original problem though.
Whatever the problem, it sounds like you need to do a:

#hwclock --hctosys

after you have reconfigured your system time to set the hardware clock
to the correct time. And -- what is this about rebooting a server? This
is Linux:

[david@Nemesis david]$ uptime
  7:53pm  up 359 days,  4:34,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00


Jerry Kreps wrote:
 
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 On Tuesday 18 June 2002 11:01 am, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:
  Ladies and Gents,
  I'm having the following problem:  Time changes every time I reboot the
  server.  I keep changing it back, but the problem still persists.  I did
  work with hwclock, tzselect and all that.  I can do export TZ=MDT to
  change the timezone, but as soon as I log out, it kicks back so it seems
  that this is only for the user.  This is really messing my day up.  Can
  someone point me in the right direction so I can RTFM about this.  Again,
  here is the problem:
 
  1.) I can't keep the timezone set correctly on the server.  Does it get its
  values from the hardware clock?
 
  THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!
 
  Regards,
  Vasiliy Boulytchev
  Colorado Information Technologies Inc.
 
 Installed xntp, if it wan't already installed.
 I have a script in /etc/cron/cron.hourly called settime with the execute
 attribute set.  The script contains:
 #!/bin/bash
 /usr/sbin/ntpdate -b 199.240.130.1
 
 In the config file /etc/ntp.conf  I added the two server lines below 'fudge'
 server  127.127.1.0 # local clock
 fudge   127.127.1.0 stratum 10
 server  199.240.130.1   # ntp1.kansas.net
 server  199.240.130.12  # ntp2.kansas.net
 in case I ever make xntpd an active service.
 But, once an hour, my clock gets the latest setting from a time server.
 
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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread Tom Badran

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On Wednesday 19 Jun 2002 1:32 am, James wrote:
 In many areas it's the ONLY way to get on the net.. ask my brother.
 It's AOL or carrier pigeon for him.

Can he not just use any standard dialup isp? What country is this you live in 
where dialup depends on location?

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Re: [expert] Using remote x server

2002-06-18 Thread James

Joan,

   try this one.   http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Thinclient-HOWTO.html

Should at least get you rolling.

James


On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:29:02 +0200
Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority

 Hallo!
 
 I'm planning using old computers (P75) as X terminals of a
 higher-powered server (XP1600+).  I'll have 3 clients connected to
 this server, all of them with 17 monitors.
 
 I'd like to find a tutorial for me to be able to do this... where can
 I find one (or some help)?  8-?
 
 Thanks!  ;)
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Re: [expert] Opening URL's in Sylpheed

2002-06-18 Thread Joseph Braddock

I just use mozilla '%s' and right click on the link.

Joe


On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:41:38 -0400
Kirtis B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, so i now have the latest version of sylpheed and i want to be able to open 
URL's in Mozilla 1.0 because manually copying is a PITA. =)
 
 Anway i did some research and looked up www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html which says 
that the command to open up a new URL in a currently open mozilla session is:
 
 mozilla -remote openurl(http://www.whatever.com)  
 
 So that's what i put in under Configuration - Common Preferences.. - Other - Web 
Browser.  I also tried entering the url part of openurl in lower and upper case.
 
 (I replaced the www.whatever.com with %s of course)
 
 
 Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work.  Is it possible that Sylpheed doesn't 
support Mozilla 1.0 or am i doing something wrong?
 
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Re: [expert] galeon and new mozilla

2002-06-18 Thread Jerry F. Davis

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 12:01 am, James wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:09:36 -0500
 Jerry F. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority

  On Sunday 16 June 2002 11:26 pm, James wrote:
 
  thanks james,
 
  ftp'd it down, put it where it wanted to be, but now I get this!
 
  /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: undefined
  symbol: _ZN13nsCOMPtr_base16begin_assignmentEv
 
  is the libc++mem.so not the correct one?

 texstar only made one.?

  jerry

 Jerry Are you running KDE3?  I get this occasionally and it only happens
 when I am running KDE3 (unfortunately that's a lot lately I'm a
 sucker for empty desktops.)  For me it seems to happen when KDE3 has
 recently had a long period of idleness.  Mozilla and Sylpheed did that
 last night and not even a telinit 1 telinit 5 brought it back  I had
 to pull a windows and gulp reboot.  I'd like to throw this up to the
 crowd and say any ideas?  Civilme HELP *grin*

 James


yep. have kde3 only. but am running gnome in my account.



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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread et

ya can't fool us... we know the folks that run the internet... 
I bet you could get Earthlink any where you can get AOL, execpt the Time 
-Warner buildings.
On Tuesday 18 June 2002 08:32 pm, you wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:02:29 +0100
 Tom Badran [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority

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   No g, they are telling you the truth...there is no way to disable
   HTML in the latest AOL packages...your way of kill filtering is I
   think the best way,,,you probably are not missing much. A work
   around for aol people seems to be to send from one of the free web
   based mail systems for anything on a mailing list that does not
   appreciate junky HTML.
 
  Why would someone using AOL be posting a linux mailing list?

 In many areas it's the ONLY way to get on the net.. ask my brother.
 It's AOL or carrier pigeon for him.

 James

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[expert] how to shut off modem volume and other modem question

2002-06-18 Thread waxmop

Greetings - 

I use /sbin/ifup ppp0 to start my dialup connection, and I'd like to
figure out how to shut off the modem volume.

Also, I can only start the connection currently if I switch to root.  I'd
like to enable other users to stop and start the modem connection.

I configured everything during the install and didn't do anything unusual.

Any ideas?

TIA



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Re: [expert] Opening URL's in Sylpheed

2002-06-18 Thread Damian G

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:41:38 -0400
Kirtis B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, so i now have the latest version of sylpheed and i want to be able to open 
URL's in Mozilla 1.0 because manually copying is a PITA. =)
 
 Anway i did some research and looked up www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html which says 
that the command to open up a new URL in a currently open mozilla session is:
 
 mozilla -remote openurl(http://www.whatever.com)  
 
 So that's what i put in under Configuration - Common Preferences.. - Other - Web 
Browser.  I also tried entering the url part of openurl in lower and upper case.
 
 (I replaced the www.whatever.com with %s of course)
 
 
 Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work.  Is it possible that Sylpheed doesn't 
support Mozilla 1.0 or am i doing something wrong?
 
 KIRT
 


it should work by then.
hint: this option may be already functional, but the 'link' is still 
treated as simple text. no pointing finger in the mouse cursor. nothing.
you simply get the url in green, right? 
well, double-click it right in the middle ( double click the word
'whatever' in www.whatever.com ) the word whatever should get selected
in blue.. just wait a bit, it should launch the browser.

at least that's how it reacts for me.

HTH

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Re: [expert] Postfix and gnu_pop3d

2002-06-18 Thread Randy Kramer

daRcmaTTeR wrote:
 You know Randy...in light of our past conversations about WikiLearn I
 don't know why I didn't think of that to begin with. doh! sorry about
 that. 

No problem!

 That _is_ a wonderful idea though. I take that heads up and begin to
 post the information there.
 
 by the way...as an asside..sorry for the long absence.  I've been busier
 then a long-tailed cat in a room full O rockin chairs lately and haven't
 had any time to spend on the WikiLearn project. 

No problem, we all get busy at times (or frustrated, or whatever ;-)

 a situation I intend to
 rectify shortly.  :)

Great!

regards,
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Re: [expert] how to shut off modem volume and other modem question

2002-06-18 Thread et

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 09:15 pm, you wrote:
 Greetings -

 I use /sbin/ifup ppp0 to start my dialup connection, and I'd like to
 figure out how to shut off the modem volume.


what a pain in the a$$ to setup, have you tried kppp?
 Also, I can only start the connection currently if I switch to root.  I'd
 like to enable other users to stop and start the modem connection.

 I configured everything during the install and didn't do anything unusual.

 Any ideas?

 TIA
the modem speaker is part of the modem initalization string and is in 
relation to the number right after the M or L, try a 0 if there is a number 
between 1 and 5 to turn off the speaker. higer numbers are louder, most only 
have 3 steps



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Re: [expert] how to shut off modem volume and other modem question

2002-06-18 Thread Tom Badran

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On Wednesday 19 Jun 2002 2:15 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings -

 I use /sbin/ifup ppp0 to start my dialup connection, and I'd like to
 figure out how to shut off the modem volume.

 Also, I can only start the connection currently if I switch to root.  I'd
 like to enable other users to stop and start the modem connection.

 I configured everything during the install and didn't do anything unusual.

There is a script:
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/chat-ppp0

You need to add:

 'OK' 'ATM0L0' 

After the line that reads:

'' 'ATZ'

So your file now looks like:
CRUFT
'' 'ATZ'
'OK' 'ATM0L0'
'OK' 'ATDTnumber'
'CONNECT'
CRUFT


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Re: [expert] 8.2 msec security issue

2002-06-18 Thread Jay

Go into /usr/share/msec and edit the perm.3 file

/home/*  to whatever permissions you like, 700 for what you are looking to
do... or alternatively, use the higher security setting in the mandrake
control center although using the Mandrake control center will change
permissions other than your  home/* directories.
-Jay


 Mandrake 8.2 has a default security setting that leaves users' home
 directories world readable.  I just read that you can enter other
 user's home directories and subdirectories and read the files.  The
 Mandrake msec level by default choice is Standard.  If you chmod each
 user's home dir to 700, upon reboot it reverts back to what it was
 before.  If setting are changed in the Mandrake Control Center from
 Standard to High then users home dir is 711, 700 would be better
 though.  Any thoughts?






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Re: [expert] Opening URL's in Sylpheed

2002-06-18 Thread Kirtis B

Ah HA!  I figured it out, and it was really stupid too.

When i downloaded mozilla i got the full binary install instead of the installer which 
downloads the necessary files and installs them in the default directories.  So i have 
mozilla installed in /usr/local/mozilla1.0/mozilla/ which, of course, isn't in my 
$PATH.  =P

On a side note, does anyone know how to move the necessary files into a more standard 
location? (i tried making a link in /usr/local/bin to the binary but it said something 
about not being able to find some kind of resource when i ran it from there) 

Or am i just gonna have to use the installer when the next release comes out?

KIRT

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:21:00 -0300
Damian G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:41:38 -0400
 Kirtis B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Okay, so i now have the latest version of sylpheed and i want to be able to open 
URL's in Mozilla 1.0 because manually copying is a PITA. =)
  
  Anway i did some research and looked up www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html which 
says that the command to open up a new URL in a currently open mozilla session is:
  
  mozilla -remote openurl(http://www.whatever.com)  
  
  So that's what i put in under Configuration - Common Preferences.. - Other - 
Web Browser.  I also tried entering the url part of openurl in lower and upper case.
  
  (I replaced the www.whatever.com with %s of course)
  
  
  Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work.  Is it possible that Sylpheed doesn't 
support Mozilla 1.0 or am i doing something wrong?
  
  KIRT
  
 
 
 it should work by then.
 hint: this option may be already functional, but the 'link' is still 
 treated as simple text. no pointing finger in the mouse cursor. nothing.
 you simply get the url in green, right? 
 well, double-click it right in the middle ( double click the word
 'whatever' in www.whatever.com ) the word whatever should get selected
 in blue.. just wait a bit, it should launch the browser.
 
 at least that's how it reacts for me.
 
 HTH
 
 Damian
 
 


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Re: [expert] how to shut off modem volume and other modem question

2002-06-18 Thread Jerry Kreps

On Tuesday 18 June 2002 08:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings -

 I use /sbin/ifup ppp0 to start my dialup connection, and I'd like to
 figure out how to shut off the modem volume.

 Also, I can only start the connection currently if I switch to root.  I'd
 like to enable other users to stop and start the modem connection.

 I configured everything during the install and didn't do anything unusual.

 Any ideas?

 TIA

http://www.lisa.univ-paris12.fr/Electronik/Hayes.htm
 If you lost your modem manual or never had one in the first place this 
reference might come in handy. I for instance finally found out how to turn 
my modems speaker off: ATM0 -- Finally: Silence !


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Re: [expert] Mandrake Timezone/Date Problems

2002-06-18 Thread civileme

Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote:

 Ladies and Gents,

 I'm having the following problem:  Time changes every time I 
 reboot the server.  I keep changing it back, but the problem still 
 persists.  I did work with hwclock, tzselect and all that.  I can do 
 export TZ=MDT to change the timezone, but as soon as I log out, it 
 kicks back so it seems that this is only for the user.  This is really 
 messing my day up.  Can someone point me in the right direction so I 
 can RTFM about this.  Again, here is the problem:

  

 1.) I can't keep the timezone set correctly on the server.  Does it 
 get its values from the hardware clock?

  

 THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!

  

 Regards,
 Vasiliy Boulytchev
 Colorado Information Technologies Inc.


Well, if it is internet connected the simple way is to use ntp.  You can 
do this by dropping in your install disk and running the Upgrade 
function in expert mode and selecting no packages and setting your 
adjustments with the clock on summary step.

Most likely when it was installed GMT was set for the hardware clock and 
the right timezone was selected while your hardware clock was actually 
set for the time zone.

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Re: [expert] my system locks when shutting down/rebooting w/ error...

2002-06-18 Thread civileme

iggy wrote:

my system locks when shutting down/rebooting with this error message umount: 
/net: device is busy.

reinstalled to make sure i didn't have a bad install (it did happen, once).  
got the same error message.

my system is a:  amd athlon xp 1700 w/ 256 mb ram, msi motherboard, 40 gb 
hard drive, cd and dvd rom drives, dlink network card (and hub)

any help will be greatly appreciated.
-iggy

ps,
not afraid of RTFM, but have been unsuccessful in finding any references to 
my particular problem.




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Most likely you will find in the log that it actually stalled one step 
farther along at killing USB, but it may also have stalled at disabling 
ethernet card.  If you have a NetGear FA311 or FA312 that is EXACTLY 
where it will stall.  Remedy is to ditch the card and its weird driver. 
 If it is instead USB, then look in

/etc/modules.conf

for a line that begins and ends this way

alias  .   usb-uhci

and change the ending to

uhci

without the usb-

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