Re[2]: [expert] Passwd file conversion?

2002-08-18 Thread kwan

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, David Relson wrote:

 Clayton,
 
 Have you tried runing grep common_user_id /etc/passwd /etc/shadow, or 
 comparable command, on both boxes  It'd show you whether the hashed 
 passwords are the same (or not).

Here's a Solaris 8 /etc/shadow entry:
klowe:TvfSj1YJdIPhw:11848::

And one from Mandrkae 8.2 /etc/shadow:
klowe:$1$MXBnpAoD$DvUgscvrW1YPCqBrQ08im1:11886:0:9:7:-1:-1:1073867006

The Linux crypt() function can generate both versions of the hash. It
looks at the salt fields (2 characters in the first, $1$ for the second)
to generate the appropriate hash. The authentication system uses the
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[expert] MDK 9.0 Beta3 no sound.

2002-08-18 Thread Ralph Crongeyer

Hi all,

I just installed 9.0 Beta3 and my sound system is not setup. When I first started
KDE  I had no sound so I went to the control panel (KDE's control panel) and found I
hade to turn on the arts sound server, so I did and restarted KDE and then got an
arts error message saying Cannot open /dev/dsp (no sush file or directory)..
I'm using a SB Live sound card that was setup during the install and worked great in
9.0 Beta2.

It would be cool to fix but I just wanted to let Mandrake know about the problem.

One other suggestion.
The newly designed software management tools (the instalation tool) try's to access
my cdrom for something like 30 seconds before doing any thing Stop this!! Don't
even check to see if there is a cdrom in the drive, after the selections are made
for software to be installed then check, and eject the disk tray, or dont even check
if there is a disk in the drive just eject the disk tray. This would be much better
than waiting fot it to check the drive before anything is even selected for
instalation. IMO

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Re: [expert] MDK 9.0 Beta3 no sound.

2002-08-18 Thread Jason Guidry

On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 11:21, Ralph Crongeyer wrote:

 It would be cool to fix but I just wanted to let Mandrake know about the problem.

Tho' mandrake people read this list, this is not where bugs are
reported.

 The newly designed software management tools (the instalation tool) try's to access
 my cdrom for something like 30 seconds before doing any thing Stop this!! Don't

My guess is you need to swap out that cdrom or try an ftp install.  my
experience is that when weird things start happening with the cd during
install, a new cdrom is in that machine's future.

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Re: [expert] MDK 9.0 Beta3 no sound.

2002-08-18 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 10:32 -0500, Jason Guidry wrote:
 
 My guess is you need to swap out that cdrom or try an ftp install.  my
 experience is that when weird things start happening with the cd during
 install, a new cdrom is in that machine's future.

Does Weird Things(TM) include screeching sound and smoke coming out of
the machine?
That was happening last week when somehow a tiny metal splinter found
it's way onto the tray. CD looked interesting after that. And, yes,
following Murphy's Law it was one of my more expensive CDs! :((

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[expert] sudden hangs after booting from a w2k cd

2002-08-18 Thread Udo Rader

hi all,

for some reasons I tried to boot my linux-only laptop from a w2k cd,
which succeeded (I only *booted* and did *not* install).

And exactly after having booted *once* from this cd, my laptop has
become completely unusable, it freezes a couple of seconds after having
reached the final runlevel (5 and 3 makes no difference).

I really *know* that I did not change anything at all, the only
unordinary thing was to boot from the w2k cd ...

Some time ago I remember having read that somebody had the same problem,
but unfortunately I don't find the thread again.

So *any* suggestions are welcome!!

thanks

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Re: [expert] VIA KT266 and Promise FastTrack 100 Lite

2002-08-18 Thread ddc_prueba

Hello. I don't know about VIA problems, but maybe he can add some
boot-time parameters to the installation kernel to get a bit further...

If he has some problems with dma (as it seems to be), maybe he can try
forcing ide speed:
idebus=100

If it fails, try no dma:
ide0=nodma ide1=nodma ide2=nodma ide3=nodma

If it fails, try to guess pci option from bios/hardware/...:
pci=off

Or:
pci=bios

Or:
pci=nobios

Or:
pci=biosirq


If nothing else works maybe (as it happened to me with another raid
motherboard) that as soon as the kernel loads a certain module it
suddenly understands more ide's than in the initial boot and remaps them
spoiling the boot process. If so, he can try forcing them to be what
they should be. For exaple, to make hde be the first drive (probably
hda), hdf to be the second one, and so, try something like this but
whith proper driver identifiers:
disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80
disk=/dev/hdf bios=0x81
disk=/dev/hda bios=0x82
disk=/dev/hdc bios=0x83


Anyhow, goodluck as it looks like a complex issue... (at least to me!!)

PS: You can find more on kernel parameters on
http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.4/doc/kernel-parameters.txt.html




El vie, 16-08-2002 a las 21:51, Wolfgang Bornath escribió:
 Hi,
 
 a german user (probably a non-english speaker) asked me:
 
 --quote
 I'd like to install Mandrake Linux 8.2 but at the start of the
 installation process the machine hangs with these last lines:
 
 VP_IDE : VIA vt8233 (rev 00) IDE UDMA100 Contoller on PCI 00: 11.1
 
 ide2: BM-DMA at 0XFF00-=XFF07, BiosSettings: hde pio, hdf: pio
 
 ide3: BM-DMA at 0XFF08-=XFF0F, BiosSettings: hdg DMA, hdh: DMA
 
 Hardware:
 
 MSI-Board:
 ===
 SLOT  A  -  BIOS AMI - Vers. 062710
 
 Promise Fast Track 100 Lite / Ultra 100 EIDE - Controller
 Name Product: Promise Technology PDC 20265 FAST TRACK 100 Lite / Ultra
 100 EIDE - Controller
 
 MSI K7T 266 PRO / Version MS-6380 -  1.0A
 VIA Apollo KT266
 VT 8366  Super Nothbridge
 VT 8233  Southbridge
 System SMBus Contoller = VIA VT823xSMBus - 16 kHz
 --unquote---
 
 I'm sure I read something about the VIA chipset and also something
 about the Promise controller. I searched google and the mailinglist
 archive and found a lot about this but nothing about installation
 issues.
 
 This german user seems to be a total newbie (as he himself writes) so
 the help has to be really in a hand-holding way.
 
 Could someone please point me into the right direction so that I can
 help him?
 
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RE: [expert] Wireless NICs

2002-08-18 Thread ddc_prueba

No experience at all on wireless NIC's... but I have some experience
mounting GSM (mobile phone network), and I can tell you that being below
the maximun distance between antennas, the most important (almost the
only) thing to worry about is having direct line of sight from one
antenna to the other.

Anyway, if possible I would buy/make a very directive antenna in both
ends (or at least in one of them) and point one to the other instead of
the omni as you would dramatically increase power and quality signals
(increasing range/possible speed) and for sure you still be covering
more neighbourhood that strictly your house.


Good luck.




El vie, 16-08-2002 a las 22:59, Dodd, David J escribió:
 
 I have a linksys access point and it has good transmission but if you
 want to measure it use wavmon.  You can set up an omni dir antenna to
 get a little more range.  Setup a VPN for security would be a good
 measure.
 
 
   I just bought the house across the street from my current home. HouseA
   has DSL service and my entire network configured. I would like to
   share the DSL connection from one house to the other. Has anyone here
   experimented with any of the wireless options on Mandrake (or any
   Linux for that matter)? What's the throughput like? Does weather
   adversely affect the transmissions speeds? What is the range?
 
   Thanks for any pointers.
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Re: [expert] VIA KT266 and Promise FastTrack 100 Lite

2002-08-18 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 20:16 +0200, ddc_prueba wrote:
 Hello. I don't know about VIA problems, but maybe he can add some
 boot-time parameters to the installation kernel to get a bit further...
 
[Options snipped]

 Anyhow, goodluck as it looks like a complex issue... (at least to me!!)
 
 PS: You can find more on kernel parameters on
 http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.4/doc/kernel-parameters.txt.html

Thanks for all these ideas, but this guy wrote, he is a total newbie in
Linux and not too close a friend with his computer anyway. So I think
all this may well be overdemanding for him.

It's not easy for him in any case because the real good hints and tips
are still in english lists or sites and this guy doesn't speak english.

As he doesn't live nearby I cannot go over and do some hand-holding.
I'll advise to look out for a LUG in his area.

Thanks

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[expert] 8.2 Won't run on my machine

2002-08-18 Thread John Wheat


 I have used Mandrake from version 7.1 and have never had problems installing.
I have used this box with 8.0 and 8.1 with great success. Over the last few 
weeks I have tried version 8.2 and cannot get it to work reliably. Many times 
it fails durning the install wether I do graphical or text. Generally during 
the package installation the machine locks up. If I manage to get it 
installed whenever I do a major install/upgrade like Ximian-Gnome or an 
upgrade to KDE 3 the machine locks up while installing. Might their be a 
piece of hardware that 8.2 or the default kernel does not like?

 Abit KG7 (non-raid)
- AMD761/VIA 686B Chipset
- AMD 1.3 Ghz CPU
- NVidia Geforce2 MX PCI Vid card (using nv driver no upgrade to GLX/Nvidia 
driver)
- 3Com 905 NIC 
- Soundblaster Live Value
- 256 MB DDR 
- WD 15 GB HD (Windows hda)
- Maxtor 10 GB HD (Linux hdb1)
- Sony crx 140 E CD-Burner
-Aopen 40x CD-Rom

  Thanks,

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[expert]

2002-08-18 Thread James Sparenberg

Test message only Mail services have been helping me and I'm trying to
get unhelped.

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Re: [expert] MDK 9.0 Beta3 no sound.

2002-08-18 Thread Jason Guidry

On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 12:30, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 10:32 -0500, Jason Guidry wrote:
  
  My guess is you need to swap out that cdrom or try an ftp install.  my
  experience is that when weird things start happening with the cd during
  install, a new cdrom is in that machine's future.
 
 Does Weird Things(TM) include screeching sound and smoke coming out of
 the machine?

Hey, don't go trying that with me.  I have prior art on that*, namely my
beloved K6 notebook, which kept us warm when the furnace broke...

 That was happening last week when somehow a tiny metal splinter found
 it's way onto the tray. CD looked interesting after that. And, yes,
 following Murphy's Law it was one of my more expensive CDs! :((

I'm almost positive there's some sort of DMCA or copyright violation
there.  I'll report the incident to the RIAA and have you picked up.


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[expert] new kernel doesn't leave boot messages

2002-08-18 Thread Darren King

I've got a few kernels running now for different things.  If I boot from
the standard 8.2 kernel, I can use dmesg to see how the boot went and
any messages that came up during the boot.

When I boot from the cooker kernel, however, dmesg still displays the
result of the last standard 8.2 kernel boot.  How do I get the cooker
kernel to write the boot messages so I can see them with dmesg?

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[expert] CUPS/foomatic printing problem

2002-08-18 Thread Jeremy Mereness


I've traced down my printing problems to a foomatic error in MDK 8.2. I
am printing to a Samba-based printer on a remote host, but the Samba
connection is ok. The bad foomatic line ends with

'sOutputFile=/dev/fd/3' '/dev/fd/0' 31 12

and the error I get is... Unable to open the initial device, quitting.

/dev/fd/0 is a symlink to /dev/pts/1, and so is /dev/pts/0 and
/dev/pts/2, but /dev/fd/3 does not exist! How should I fix this?

Anyone know what are these links about and what creates them? I'm
running with a high-security installation and the permissions for
/dev/fd are r-x for root. Maybe Mandrake Control Center was supposed to
create something here when I set up the printer, but was prevented
somehow?

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Re: [expert] new kernel doesn't leave boot messages

2002-08-18 Thread HoytDuff

On Sunday 18 August 2002 06:06 pm, Darren King scribbled in crayon on a yellow 
legal pad:
 I've got a few kernels running now for different things.  If I boot from
 the standard 8.2 kernel, I can use dmesg to see how the boot went and
 any messages that came up during the boot.

 When I boot from the cooker kernel, however, dmesg still displays the
 result of the last standard 8.2 kernel boot.  How do I get the cooker
 kernel to write the boot messages so I can see them with dmesg?

 Darren

Isn't that the quiet LILO/GRUB option at work? If so, remove it. 

IIRC the hidden messages are displayed if you press Alt-Ctrl-F12 ?

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[expert] Printer fails to work on boot/reboot

2002-08-18 Thread marrandy

Hello.

Mandrake 8.2 with mandrake rpm kde3.0 added.

I asked this on the newbies list but didn't get any response.

When I setup the printer via configuration | harddrake | printer

It sets up fine.  Prints great, from cups or generic unix pld.

When I shutdown and later  startup again, both fail.

If I go back into the configuration, delete the printer, and add a new one it 
works fine again.

This didn't happen on 7.2 or 8.1.

Any clues about this ?

What info is required to track this down.

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Re: [expert] new kernel doesn't leave boot messages

2002-08-18 Thread Darren King

Nope...I don't have the quiet option on this kernel.  I do have the
quiet option on my standard kernel and I still get the dmesg stuff for
that one so the quiet option must be just for displaying boot time
messages, not for writing them to the file.

Darren

On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 10:06, HoytDuff wrote:
 On Sunday 18 August 2002 06:06 pm, Darren King scribbled in crayon on a yellow 
 legal pad:
  I've got a few kernels running now for different things.  If I boot from
  the standard 8.2 kernel, I can use dmesg to see how the boot went and
  any messages that came up during the boot.
 
  When I boot from the cooker kernel, however, dmesg still displays the
  result of the last standard 8.2 kernel boot.  How do I get the cooker
  kernel to write the boot messages so I can see them with dmesg?
 
  Darren
 
 Isn't that the quiet LILO/GRUB option at work? If so, remove it. 
 
 IIRC the hidden messages are displayed if you press Alt-Ctrl-F12 ?
 
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[expert] Where to stick the CDs?

2002-08-18 Thread Matthew O. Persico

I am sick and tired of shuffling the 3cds whenever I have to hunt down multiple RPMs 
to install a new piece of software. I have a 80GB hard drive. Is there a traditional 
place to which I should copy all the RPMS (/usr/src perhaps?) Or should I just make a 
new partition called /cds and copy them to /cds/cd1, /cds/cd2/ and /cds/cd3?

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Re: [expert] Where to stick the CDs?

2002-08-18 Thread Jason Guidry

On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 20:06, Matthew O. Persico wrote:
 I am sick and tired of shuffling the 3cds whenever I have to hunt down multiple RPMs 
to install a new piece of software. I have a 80GB hard drive. Is there a traditional 
place to which I should copy all the RPMS (/usr/src perhaps?) Or should I just make a 
new partition called /cds and copy them to /cds/cd1, /cds/cd2/ and /cds/cd3?

if you install in expert mode, you can label partitions whatever you
want.  I used to make a /rpms directory and mount it on it's own
partition.  This is handy for upgrades when some security fixes have
already released.

If you have a descent connection, try just loading an ftp site into your
urpmi database and dumping your cd's.

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Re: [expert] Where to stick the CDs?

2002-08-18 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Matthew O. Persico wrote:

 I am sick and tired of shuffling the 3cds whenever I have to hunt down multiple RPMs 
to install a new piece of software. I have a 80GB hard drive. Is there a traditional 
place to which I should copy all the RPMS (/usr/src perhaps?) Or should I just make a 
new partition called /cds and copy them to /cds/cd1, /cds/cd2/ and /cds/cd3?
 
 --
 Matt
 
um Matt... that is why Urpmi is part of the ditribution you've chosen to 
install on your system. Urpmi takes the misery out of having to hunt down 
the package you want to install that you're not sure which CD it's on.

EX:  urpmi some-package-name  ENTER

If the package is on the CD's and you're logged in as root it will tell 
you which CD to place in the Drive so you can install the package. If it's 
not on the CD's then it won't know what you're talking about and it will 
tell you so.

Another very painless way you can do this very same thing is to use the 
systems software manager. It's called rpmdrake. This is the same little 
gem of a program that allows you to do the updates for your system. Get to 
know it. It's not the monster some would have you believe it is. You can 
also use the search function contained on it to search your system to see 
if the package you're looking for is already on your system.

Try one or both of these methods the next time you wish to install a 
package that you think may be on the CD's, but you're not certain. I have 
a feeling you'll be very pleasantly surprised. 

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Re: [expert] Where to stick the CDs?

2002-08-18 Thread Matthew O. Persico

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 21:49:18 -0400 (EDT), daRcmaTTeR spaketh:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Matthew O. Persico wrote:

I am sick and tired of shuffling the 3cds whenever I have to hunt
down multiple RPMs to install a new piece of software.
[snip]


um Matt... that is why Urpmi is part of the ditribution you've
chosen to install on your system. Urpmi takes the misery out of
having to hunt down the package you want to install that you're not
sure which CD it's on.

EX:  urpmi some-package-name  ENTER

My installation must be incomplete. I am getting the error:

unable to take medium Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2 (ftp1u) into
account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake
Linux 8.2 (ftp1u)] exists

However, urpmi did popout the cd tray and asked me to insert the cd
where the rpm lives. Thanks for the tip.

Another very painless way you can do this very same thing is to use
the systems software manager. It's called rpmdrake. This is the same
 little gem of a program that allows you to do the updates for your
system.
Get to know it. It's not the monster some would have you believe it
is.

Actually, it's not the monster it used to be in the 7.X series.
Thanks for re-aquainting me to it.

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Re: [expert] Where to stick the CDs?

2002-08-18 Thread tarvid

I think we are missing the point.

With hard disk space ubiquitous and cheap, why not load them to the hard 
drive.

To make life easy would this work?

mkdir /iso
dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=/iso/cd1
...
dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=/iso/cd2
...
dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=/iso/cd3

mkdir /mnt/cd1
mkdir /mnt/cd2
mkdir /mnt/cd3

mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd1 /mnt/cd1
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd2 /mnt/cd2
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd3 /mnt/cd3

urpmi.addmedia file://mnt.cd1
urpmi.addmedia file://mnt.cd2
urpmi.addmedia file://mnt.cd3

Jim Tarvid

On Sunday 18 August 2002 09:49 pm, you wrote:
 On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Matthew O. Persico wrote:
  I am sick and tired of shuffling the 3cds whenever I have to hunt down
  multiple RPMs to install a new piece of software. I have a 80GB hard
  drive. Is there a traditional place to which I should copy all the RPMS
  (/usr/src perhaps?) Or should I just make a new partition called /cds and
  copy them to /cds/cd1, /cds/cd2/ and /cds/cd3?
 
  --
  Matt

 um Matt... that is why Urpmi is part of the ditribution you've chosen to
 install on your system. Urpmi takes the misery out of having to hunt down
 the package you want to install that you're not sure which CD it's on.

   EX:  urpmi some-package-name  ENTER

 If the package is on the CD's and you're logged in as root it will tell
 you which CD to place in the Drive so you can install the package. If it's
 not on the CD's then it won't know what you're talking about and it will
 tell you so.

 Another very painless way you can do this very same thing is to use the
 systems software manager. It's called rpmdrake. This is the same little
 gem of a program that allows you to do the updates for your system. Get to
 know it. It's not the monster some would have you believe it is. You can
 also use the search function contained on it to search your system to see
 if the package you're looking for is already on your system.

 Try one or both of these methods the next time you wish to install a
 package that you think may be on the CD's, but you're not certain. I have
 a feeling you'll be very pleasantly surprised.



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Re: [expert] Where to stick the CDs?

2002-08-18 Thread Matthew O. Persico

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:30:32 -0400, tarvid spaketh:
[snip]
To make life easy would this work?
I tried it; see below


mkdir /iso
dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=/iso/cd1
This has to be changed to

dd if/dev/cdrom of=/iso/cd1

Ditto for cd2 and cd3

mkdir /mnt/cd1
mkdir /mnt/cd2
mkdir /mnt/cd3

mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd1 /mnt/cd1
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd2 /mnt/cd2
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd3 /mnt/cd3

urpmi.addmedia file://mnt.cd1
This has to be changed to

urpmi.addmedia 'mdk 8.2 cd1 iso' file://mnt/cd1

The name is required and the file:// spec had a typo.
Ditto for cd2 and cd3

Jim, thanks. This is so cool. Moreover, 'mdk 8.2 cd1 iso' also showed up as a valid 
resource in rpmdrake. That means once you install all three disks this way, you could 
remove the CD resources from rpmdrake if you wanted.

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Re: [expert] Where to stick the CDs?

2002-08-18 Thread Matthew O. Persico

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 23:11:30 -0400, Matthew O. Persico spaketh:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:30:32 -0400, tarvid spaketh:
[snip]
To make life easy would this work?
I tried it; see below


mkdir /iso
dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=/iso/cd1
This has to be changed to

dd if/dev/cdrom of=/iso/cd1

gr! make that
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/iso/cd1


Ditto for cd2 and cd3

mkdir /mnt/cd1
mkdir /mnt/cd2
mkdir /mnt/cd3

mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd1 /mnt/cd1
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd2 /mnt/cd2
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /iso/cd3 /mnt/cd3

urpmi.addmedia file://mnt.cd1
This has to be changed to

urpmi.addmedia 'mdk 8.2 cd1 iso' file://mnt/cd1

The name is required and the file:// spec had a typo.
Ditto for cd2 and cd3

Jim, thanks. This is so cool. Moreover, 'mdk 8.2 cd1 iso' also
showed up as a valid resource in rpmdrake. That means once you
install all three disks this way, you could remove the CD resources
from rpmdrake if you wanted.

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Matthew O. Persico







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