RE: [expert] Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1

[Franki]

Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1
5. I don't know... I like some new stuff to play with, I'd prefer they were
made an option and then put in a "beta" or "experimental" menu option.
doing that helps the developers because they will likely get more bug
reports... if no-one ran beta stuff, it would stay beta stuff..
I have been stung by beta bugs many many times, but I still like to play.

4. I suppose the installer could get a new look, but it works, so I don't
really care.. and most newbies will be seeing it for the first time anyway.

3. This one I agree with.. popular opinion seems to be that the qt libs are
better then gtk anyway. so I don't know why mandrake choose gtk.

1. I think that would be good as an option, but I think a more comprehensive
mandrake theme for kde would be better...and easier. (and you can turn it
off.)

2. I don't mind the current one, they shouldn't remove it, just make a newer
alternative and let people choose..

rgds


Franki
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  Subject: [expert] Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1


  Hi All,

  With the hype finally dying down from the current round of distro
releases I thought I would add my two cents into the pool for the next
version of Mandrake.

  1.  With Redhat 8.0 and Suse8.1, both companies have greatly
enhanced the user experience with Gnome and KDE respectively.  Mandrake
should do something special with KDE.  For example, redesign the kmenu.
Make it more appealing to the end user.  Throw around the ideas from
kde-look.org for the kmenu and 'Mandrakeize' it :-).  What about something
completely different like a pie-menu.  That would really bring the
experience up another notch.

  2.  Create some window dressings (decorations) that say that this
is a Mandrake OS (Suse style).  Work on the font rendering (xft2/fontconfig)
and/or create some useable fonts.  The default blue style that Mandrake
seems to use is getting boring now.  Develop some new graphics
(crystallized?) for your core Mandrake apps rather than custom icons.

  3.  With the RandR extension hopefully coming to the next release
of Mandrake, some of the Control Centre will be made redundant.  Redesign it
for QT/KDE based rather than GTK based.  Mandrake is a KDE-pro company, are
they not?  I'm not sure on the politics why they decided to go the GTK way,
but they should really concentrate on one desktop/toolkit and improve that
(lycoris like?).

  4.  For me, the installer is looking outdated.  So how hard is it
to change the aesthetics of it.  The under-the-hood stuff is still top
notch, but the GUI is looking old and unchanged for the last few releases.

  5.  The package support really get me personally.  Why do they
include pre-release/beta versions of software in the OFFICIAL stable
release.  Mandrake 9.1 should only concentrate on released versions of
packages.   That is where the reliability and security problems come in.

  I hope this starts something.  If you guys don't like my ideas,
say so.  Mention your ideas and see if it makes it into the next release.
For me Mandrake seems to be losing its focus.  It started off as redhat with
KDE, but now is trying to be a Jack of all trades.  And is now a Master of
None.  I'll throw around some solutions to my ideas somehow.  Thanks for
reading this.  I hope I haven't bored you too much ;-).

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Re: [expert] fdisk limited to 16 partitions

[Felix Miata]

David Lerner wrote:
 
> The util-linux RPM includes fdisk. The original fdisk allows a
> maximum of 60 partitions, but Mandrake has patched it to handle a
> maximum of 16 partitions. It will truncate the partitin table to 16
> partitions if you have created more than 16 partitions with a
> different program (eg. cfdisk).

If you simply do 'fdisk -l /dev/xdx', then fdisk will claim to truncate
the partition table at 16, even though it does not. cfdisk doesn't seem
to have a partition limit problem, and Linux has no problem mounting and
using /dev/hda17 and /dev/hda18 I created with non-Linux tools. I
haven't yet tried >16 with SCSI.
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Re: [expert] Acomdata 40GB USB 2.0 hard drive

[HoytDuff]

On Monday 21 October 2002 06:23 pm, Todd Lyons scribbled in crayon on a yellow 
legal pad:
> Larry Nguyen wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:18:49PM -0500 :
> > Thanks for the quick reply, Todd. I'm thinking of buying one. $99 at my
> > local CompUSA store.  
> > It's USB 2.0 so it should work rite? Any trick?
>
> A definite maybe. 
> devices that work.  Barring that, I'd say your chances are slim due to
> two reasons:
> 1) it's brand new (or appears to be)
> 2) it's on sale for such a cheap price
>

I picked up one. It is detected as /dev/sda

It needs to have a prtition table created and a fileystem installed.

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Re: [expert] Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1

[Jack Coates]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 14:58, Craig Williamson (ENZ) wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
>   With the hype finally dying down from the current round of distro
> releases I thought I would add my two cents into the pool for the next
> version of Mandrake.
> 
<1 and 2 are the same suggestion>

I really don't care about the look and feel, because the only tool I use
is DrakConf which is working pretty nicely (did prefer the old rpmdrake,
but not enough to fight to the death on a mailing list -- c'est la vie).
Since I don't ever use Gnome or KDE, I don't care what they look like. I
know many others do, good for them and I hope they're happy.
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/Photos/screenshot.png/view is what makes me
happy, and it's looked pretty much like that since Mandrake 8.0 with the
exception of day and night and hurricanes :-).
> 
>   3.  With the RandR extension hopefully coming to the next release of

I hereby register a vote of "I don't care." As long as I can read the
scripts which configure things, and as long as the GUI ones include an
option for ncurses output for remote management, that's all I care
about. Oh, and if you must show GUI output, make sure that it's fast and
doesn't make stupid mistakes like defining a window size in pixels.

>   4.  For me, the installer is looking outdated.  So how hard is it to

Don't care -- but, I do care a lot that I had to burn my own El Torito
CD with network.img to do an install on a laptop with a firewire CD and
no floppy drive (http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/vx88). The Mandrake
disc 1 should be able to figure out some way to get onto a machine -- if
it boots and realizes that it can't find the install media, then it
should load network drivers and start looking for HTTP/NFS/FTP servers.
> 
>   5.  The package support really get me personally.  Why do they
bull :-) Mandrake seems to me to have a very clear goal, which is to be
the best RPM-based distribution, with best defined as easiest-to-use,
most-stable, and most polished. 9.0 is the first Linux distribution I've
used which is worth the sticker price, and I can't believe it's a .0
release.

Now for my suggestion: script clean up. There's some goofy plumbing
going on in this bad boy -- it works, but it isn't religiously keeping
data / code separation hygiene, and that's bad (see previous thread on
/mnt/removable). Hopefully by 9.1 or 2 it'll be a lot easier to figure
out where a mysterious mount-point name came from.

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Re: [expert] Help patching?

[Jack Coates]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 14:11, Joan Tur wrote:
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> 
> Es Dilluns 21 Octubre 2002 17:53, en Jack Coates va escriure:
> > Let me guess -- you probably installed the ACPI patch first, right?
> No, I haven't.  I've tryed to compile after having applyed the acpi patch with 
> no luck.
> 
> Then I've uninstalled kernel-source, deleted the /src/linux-2.4.19-6mdk 
> directory, reinstalled kernel-source and applied swsusp patch also without 
> luck when trying to compile  8(
> 
> > That
> > patch and the swsuspend patch won't coexist. I think I documented that
> > on my VX88 page, but I can't remember for sure now. IIRC, ACPI
> > suspension isn't going to happen with a 2.4 kernel.
> So what are the combinations I should try?  Acpi patch?  Swsusp patch?  But 
> not both?  8-?  If the first two (alone) should work I don't why they don't 
> in my laptop  8(
> 

I don't know what combination will work, but I don't think it's going to
happen in 2.4.19. Go search the Linux-sony archives at:
http://returntonature.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-sony for the thread
titled: "Re: [Linux-sony] VX88 integrated wireless problem"

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[expert] Where is libncurses.so.4?

[Jim Hubbard]

When I try to install a 3rd party app on MDK9, I get this message:

/tmp/INcarbin-2129: error while loading shared libraries:
libncurses.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory


After some checking, I discovered that libncurses.so.4 is provided by
ncurses-5.2-12.2, but not by the version in MDK9, which is
ncurses-5.2-27.  Apparently, this package has forked somehow and now
libncurses.so.4 is part of the ncurses4 package, but I can't find an MDK
rpm for it.

What can I do to provide libncurses.so.4?

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Re: [expert] Can Mandrake replace M$ workstations within M$ domain?

[Michael van der Kolff]

Keith,

Just one more thing:You can also set up an IMAP server for emails, if
your school does that; I suggest Cyrus 2.1.  "Roaming Profiles" can be
achieved by having the "/home" directory on them mapped to the server.
(Map it in the /etc/fstab using smbfs).  If you go the full Linux route,
you can still use smbfs and samba, or you can use Coda
(coda.cs.cmu.edu), which is an advanced network file system, meaning
that there is also more than sufficient support for your laptops as
well.  It also supports a bunch of other stuff; Well worth it if you
intend to do this during the summer holidays :)

Good luck! :)

Michael van der Kolff
A Perfect PC
Gymea, Sydney, Australia

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 00:11, Keith Spencer wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am trying to get off the M$ roundabout. Bill has earnt more than 
> enough from us!
> Is is possible to keep my Win2k domain and replace the 
> workstations with Mandrake? ATM I have win2k workstations so 
> the replacements would need to somehow support "roaming 
> profiles" whatever that means in Linux or some solution like it. 
> They would also have to authenticate with the Win2k server and 
> connect to shared volumes there.
> Is any/all of this possible? or am I really barking up the wrong tree 
> and am stuck with M$
> We have 200 + school computers to fool with. Any school ever 
> done it?
> Thanks in advance
> Keith
> Keith Spencer
> IT coordinator 
> St Margaret Marys College
> Townsville North QLD Australia
> http:\\www.smmc.qld.edu.au
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Can Mandrake replace M$ workstations within M$ domain?

[Michael van der Kolff]

Yes, you can.  But you can even go one step further: you can put a
Debian or Mandrake Server in as well.  That way you get the full benefit
of Linux :)

More seriously, you can always say during the Mandrake 9 installation
process that it should authenticate against a windows NT 4 Server, which
is the LANMAN compatibility.  It does this through winbind.

However, with a little more expertise, you can edit the pam files,
install the Heimdal files on you Mandrake boxen, and set up a Kerberos 5
server, if you really want to get off M$.  If you still need access to
some M$ applications, you can set up a Win2k server with Terminal
Services, and use RDesktop.  You can also get the Win2k server to behave
as if it were a Kerberos authentication client using some of the
documentation on M$'s website (it has somethin' to do with kadmin,
IIRC).

I have implemented a similar, but less advanced system at Caringbah High
School, my HS; I have implemented other systems like this within the
enterprise I currently work at.

Best of luck!  And of course, I'd like to congratulate you on your
choice to desert M$. :)

Michael van der Kolff
A Perfect PC
Gymea, Sydney, Australia

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 00:11, Keith Spencer wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am trying to get off the M$ roundabout. Bill has earnt more than 
> enough from us!
> Is is possible to keep my Win2k domain and replace the 
> workstations with Mandrake? ATM I have win2k workstations so 
> the replacements would need to somehow support "roaming 
> profiles" whatever that means in Linux or some solution like it. 
> They would also have to authenticate with the Win2k server and 
> connect to shared volumes there.
> Is any/all of this possible? or am I really barking up the wrong tree 
> and am stuck with M$
> We have 200 + school computers to fool with. Any school ever 
> done it?
> Thanks in advance
> Keith
> Keith Spencer
> IT coordinator 
> St Margaret Marys College
> Townsville North QLD Australia
> http:\\www.smmc.qld.edu.au
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] OpenOffice crashes

[Christopher Cali]

I tried that already with failure :(

Chris
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 20:54, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2002 16:35:30 -0400 Christopher Cali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Here's where it looks like it's terminating:
> > There's really no other info that looks out of the ordinary, it
> > terminates fine!
> > 
> > 
> > access("/tmp/OSL_PIPE_501_SingleOfficeIPC_1867879530", F_OK) = 0
> > connect(5, {sin_family=AF_UNIX,
> > path="/tmp/OSL_PIPE_501_SingleOfficeIPC_1867879530"}, 110) = 0
> > send(5, "InternalIPC::TerminateThread", 28, 0) = 28
> > shutdown(5, 2 /* send and receive */)   = 0
> > close(5)= 0
> > kill(2893, SIGRTMIN)   
> 
> If there are no other OO processes running, delete the /tmp/OSL... file.
> 
> That's what kept mine from starting the other week.
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 15:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On 21 Oct 2002, Christopher Cali wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I am having problems with OpenOffice crashing.  I'm using Mandrake
> > > > 9.0 with Gnome.  Upon opening oowriter as a user, the frame opens
> > > > then closes immediately.  I've seen questions posted about this
> > > > before and wondering if anybody has experienced this or found a
> > > > solution.  Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Try starting the ./soffice from the command line. It might give some
> > > more information about what's going wrong. If nothing shows up, try
> > > doing:
> > >   strace ./soffice > outfile
> > > 
> > > Then take a look at the bottom of outfile to see what errors are
> > > listed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] fdisk limited to 16 partitions

[David Lerner]

Toshiro wrote:

El dom, 20-10-2002 a las 20:28, David Lerner escribió:


The util-linux RPM includes fdisk. The original fdisk allows a 
maximum of 60 partitions, but Mandrake has patched it to handle a 
maximum of 16 partitions. It will truncate the partitin table to 16 
partitions if you have created more than 16 partitions with a 
different program (eg. cfdisk).

There must be a reason why Mandrake has chosen to patch fdisk in 
this manner, but I have can't imagine why. Can someone enlighten me?


Do you have a SCSI disk? If yes, then that's the problem; you have a
limit of 16 partition in a SCSI disk (and this limit is not a decision
of Mandrake, I had the same problem with Redhat).

BTW, in IDE disks you can have as many as 64 partitions.

Toshiro.


Thank you for the response. I do not have SCSI, but an IDE drive 
with more than 20 partitions. Red Hat also has the problem, but SuSE 
and Debian do not. It seems that Red Hat and Mandrake have set a 
single limit that sould work for SCSI and IDE.

Dave


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Re: [expert] fdisk limited to 16 partitions

[Toshiro]

El dom, 20-10-2002 a las 20:28, David Lerner escribió:
> The util-linux RPM includes fdisk. The original fdisk allows a 
> maximum of 60 partitions, but Mandrake has patched it to handle a 
> maximum of 16 partitions. It will truncate the partitin table to 16 
> partitions if you have created more than 16 partitions with a 
> different program (eg. cfdisk).
> 
> There must be a reason why Mandrake has chosen to patch fdisk in 
> this manner, but I have can't imagine why. Can someone enlighten me?

Do you have a SCSI disk? If yes, then that's the problem; you have a
limit of 16 partition in a SCSI disk (and this limit is not a decision
of Mandrake, I had the same problem with Redhat).

BTW, in IDE disks you can have as many as 64 partitions.

Toshiro.



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Re: [expert] Looking for a telnet server <-> serial bridge

[kwan]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Barry Michels wrote:

> I would like to setup a daemon that listens on a specified port and bridges
> that connection to a serial port.  Any ideas?
> It would be nice if it could send commands down the serial line to reset the
> device when it detects the disconnection of the remote user.  What would
> really be nice is if it could be visible to the remote user as a terminal
> window embedded in a webpage.
> 
There's a program called mserver that might do what you need. It is
*not* the program of a similar name related to the Masqdialer project.

There's also a digiboard portserver howto that might be useful.

I take it that minicom via an ssh session is not workable?



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Re: [expert] OpenOffice crashes

[Pierre Fortin]

On 21 Oct 2002 16:35:30 -0400 Christopher Cali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's where it looks like it's terminating:
> There's really no other info that looks out of the ordinary, it
> terminates fine!
> 
> 
> access("/tmp/OSL_PIPE_501_SingleOfficeIPC_1867879530", F_OK) = 0
> connect(5, {sin_family=AF_UNIX,
> path="/tmp/OSL_PIPE_501_SingleOfficeIPC_1867879530"}, 110) = 0
> send(5, "InternalIPC::TerminateThread", 28, 0) = 28
> shutdown(5, 2 /* send and receive */)   = 0
> close(5)= 0
> kill(2893, SIGRTMIN)   

If there are no other OO processes running, delete the /tmp/OSL... file.

That's what kept mine from starting the other week.

Pierre


> On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 15:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On 21 Oct 2002, Christopher Cali wrote:
> > 
> > > I am having problems with OpenOffice crashing.  I'm using Mandrake
> > > 9.0 with Gnome.  Upon opening oowriter as a user, the frame opens
> > > then closes immediately.  I've seen questions posted about this
> > > before and wondering if anybody has experienced this or found a
> > > solution.  Thanks,
> > > 
> > > 
> > Try starting the ./soffice from the command line. It might give some
> > more information about what's going wrong. If nothing shows up, try
> > doing:
> >   strace ./soffice > outfile
> > 
> > Then take a look at the bottom of outfile to see what errors are
> > listed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 
> 
> 


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Re: [expert] TCP NFS for Linux?

[Lars Nordin]

On Monday 21 October 2002 07:34 pm, Jane Gray-Luhr wrote:
> Anyone heard of a beta NFS for Linux that is built with TCP protocol?

Linux can run NFS over TCP as a client, see:

http://nfs.sourceforge.net/


For more questions see the Linux NFS mailing list:

http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/789/0


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Re: [expert] TCP NFS for Linux?

[Bryan Whitehead]

Jane Gray-Luhr wrote:

Anyone heard of a beta NFS for Linux that is built with TCP protocol?


Linux can already to nfs over TCP on client side. Server side is still 
in development. You can patch your kernel yourself tho to play with 
server side NFS TCP.

read nfs.sourceforge.net

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[expert] Looking for a telnet server <-> serial bridge

[Barry Michels]

I would like to setup a daemon that listens on a specified port and bridges
that connection to a serial port.  Any ideas?
It would be nice if it could send commands down the serial line to reset the
device when it detects the disconnection of the remote user.  What would
really be nice is if it could be visible to the remote user as a terminal
window embedded in a webpage.


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Re: [expert] The GIMP problem

[kwan]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, andy wrote:

> Ok, so now i've found the problem:
> > You've probably already checked, but please verify that you're using the
> > Pencil tool and not something like the airbrush, brush or DrawWithInk
> > tool. All the icons look similar, but everything else but Pencil will
> > anti-alias the edges.
> That works, but it seems the closer I zoom in with the magnifier tool, the 
> more screwed up the pixels get when I draw on it. And I tend to zoom in alot.
> Anything above 200% tends to make it mess up. Any solutions?
> 

Bizarre... Can you send me an screenshot privately showing the effect
you're describing? 

Please also send:

Double click the Pencil icon in the Gimp main control panel to get to
the Tool Options window. What is Opacity, Mode, Incremental and Pressure
Sensitivity set to? Are you using a pen-based input device?

On the Brush Selection window (found in the lower right box of the Gimp
main control panel), what does the top info line show? What is the
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Re: [expert] Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1

[Steffen Barszus]

Am Montag, 21. Oktober 2002 23:58 schrieb Craig Williamson (ENZ):
> Hi All,
>
>   With the hype finally dying down from the current round of distro
> releases I thought I would add my two cents into the pool for the next
> version of Mandrake.
>
You should read Cooker, since some things you complain  was discussed there a 
lot 


>   1.  With Redhat 8.0 and Suse8.1, both companies have greatly
> enhanced the user experience with Gnome and KDE respectively.  Mandrake
> should do something special with KDE.  For example, redesign the kmenu.
> Make it more appealing to the end user.  Throw around the ideas from
> kde-look.org for the kmenu and 'Mandrakeize' it :-).  What about something
> completely different like a pie-menu.  That would really bring the
> experience up another notch.
>
Please NO Kde  = Gnome.
 They are different. this is one of the linux advantages. I like the default 
style, cause its fast and simple. And since keramik is default in the next 
kde release, what to bother ? 


>   2.  Create some window dressings (decorations) that say that this is
> a Mandrake OS (Suse style).  Work on the font rendering (xft2/fontconfig)
> and/or create some useable fonts.  The default blue style that Mandrake
> seems to use is getting boring now.  Develop some new graphics
> (crystallized?) for your core Mandrake apps rather than custom icons.
>
>   3.  With the RandR extension hopefully coming to the next release of
> Mandrake, some of the Control Centre will be made redundant.  Redesign it
> for QT/KDE based rather than GTK based.  Mandrake is a KDE-pro company, are
> they not?  I'm not sure on the politics why they decided to go the GTK way,
> but they should really concentrate on one desktop/toolkit and improve that
> (lycoris like?).
>
There are no politics. The most tools are written in perl. The only Toolkit in 
the beginning was GTK1 . Now there are GTK2 and Qt. As I understood GTK2 will 
be used in the next release ... 

>   4.  For me, the installer is looking outdated.  So how hard is it to
> change the aesthetics of it.  The under-the-hood stuff is still top notch,
> but the GUI is looking old and unchanged for the last few releases.
>
>   5.  The package support really get me personally.  Why do they
> include pre-release/beta versions of software in the OFFICIAL stable
> release.  Mandrake 9.1 should only concentrate on released versions of
> packages.   That is where the reliability and security problems come in.
>
I use Mandrake because it uses actual software ...

>   I hope this starts something.  If you guys don't like my ideas, say
> so.  Mention your ideas and see if it makes it into the next release.  For
> me Mandrake seems to be losing its focus.  It started off as redhat with
> KDE, but now is trying to be a Jack of all trades.  And is now a Master of
> None.  I'll throw around some solutions to my ideas somehow.  Thanks for
> reading this.  I hope I haven't bored you too much ;-).
>
> Craig



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[expert] TCP NFS for Linux?

[Jane Gray-Luhr]

Anyone heard of a beta NFS for Linux that is built with TCP protocol?


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Re: [expert] The GIMP problem

[andy]

On Monday 21 October 2002 04:53 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, andy wrote:
> > On Monday 21 October 2002 04:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, andy wrote:
> > > > Well i'm sorta of a graphics artist, and I'm more into pixel art than
> > > > anti-aliasing (though I do use anti-aliasing at times). And it seems
> > > > when I try to draw something lets say using the pencil (at the
> > > > smallest size you can get) the pixels around what I draw get messed
> > > > up for some reason. I'm working in tiles (16x16), soo you can see
> > > > that it gets quite annoying. I can fix it some times, but it just
> > > > comes back. Anybody got a solution?
> > >
> > > Make sure that the brush selection is using the Circle 1x1 and not
> > > something like Circle 3x3 fuzzy. Are you using a tablet? If so, also
> > > verify that pressure sensitivity is set appropriately or turned off.
> >
> > Didn't seem to work
>
> You've probably already checked, but please verify that you're using the
> Pencil tool and not something like the airbrush, brush or DrawWithInk
> tool. All the icons look similar, but everything else but Pencil will
> anti-alias the edges.
Ok, so now i've found the problem:
> You've probably already checked, but please verify that you're using the
> Pencil tool and not something like the airbrush, brush or DrawWithInk
> tool. All the icons look similar, but everything else but Pencil will
> anti-alias the edges.
That works, but it seems the closer I zoom in with the magnifier tool, the 
more screwed up the pixels get when I draw on it. And I tend to zoom in alot.
Anything above 200% tends to make it mess up. Any solutions?



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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable

[Jack Coates]

I'm starting to wonder if it is getting the base name by looking at the
PCI or USB information for the device...

/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script seems to be the one making the
directory and modifying /etc/fstab. It relies on the variable $mpoint.
So do many of the other scripts in /etc/dynamic... but none of them
actually set the damned variable.

and in looking for it, we discover that rgrep isn't actually recursing
(sort of belies the r, neh?):
[jack@chupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/*   
[jack@chupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/dynamic/*
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
--$1 $2 | while read mpoint type; do
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:   [ ! -d $mpoint ] && mkdir
$mpoint
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:   mount $mpoint
...
man rgrep, and
   -r
  recursively scan through directory tree

sigh... yes Virginia, the rgrep command requires a freaking -r flag to
make it actually recurse. That's pretty lame.

However, even with an rgrep -r I still can't find the memory_card string
or the mpoint variable definition... google to the rescue. The Answer
Guy posted this snippet:
"mount | {
IFS="  (,)";
while read dev x mpoint x type opts; do
   echo $dev $type;
done
}
"

which makes it clear that $mpoint is being defined here:
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
--$1 $2 |
 while read mpoint type; do

I looked in /usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab and it's a perl script, which
sets mpoint here:
sub set_mount_point {
my ($part, $fstab) = @_;

my $mntpoint = detect_devices::suggest_mount_point($part) or return;
$mntpoint = "/mnt/$mntpoint";

foreach ('', 2 .. 10) {
next if fsedit::mntpoint2part("$mntpoint$_", $fstab);
$part->{mntpoint} = "$mntpoint$_";
return 1;
}
0;
}

which relies on the use statements at the top:
use lib qw(/usr/lib/libDrakX);

use detect_devices;
...

and if we look in /usr/lib/libDrakX/detect_devices.pm we will see:
sub usb_description2removable {
local ($_) = @_;
return 'camera' if /\bcamera\b/i;
return 'memory_card' if /\bmemory\s?stick\b/i ||
/\bcompact\s?flash\b/i || /
\bsmart\s?media\b/i;
return 'memory_card' if /DiskOnKey/i || /IBM-DMDM/i;
return 'zip' if /\bzip\s?(100|250|750)/i;
return 'floppy' if /\bLS-?120\b/i;
return;
}


Look in that file and you'll probably find the one you wanted changed
too.

Talk about a journey through the plumbing...
Jack

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 13:16, bascule wrote:
> exactly, if i could find that then i could just edit whatever file it was to 
> say 'camera' instead,
> except of course that i also have a scsi removable drive that gets mounted 
> there too if it's connected!
> 
> it's all a bit too clever for it's own good, i'd just like to turn this 
> behaviour off and go back to good old manual mounting
> 
> bascule
> 
> On Monday 21 Oct 2002 7:58 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
> >
> > I took a look at this area, and it's definitely cause for suspicion, but
> > I can't find exactly where it's doing what it does because it's a morass
> > of functions which pass each other flags (so a variable may be defined
> > in one file, called in a second for passing to a third, and acted on in
> > the third).
> >
> > This set of scripts seems to do some cool stuff -- for instance, I think
> > it's responsible for auto-detecting my memory stick slot and mounting it
> > under /mnt/memory_card. But I'll be damned if I can find where it
> > decided that /mnt/[foobar] is the right mount point...
> 
> -- 
> "Another world, another day, another dawn. "
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] The GIMP problem

[kwan]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, andy wrote:

> On Monday 21 October 2002 04:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, andy wrote:
> > > Well i'm sorta of a graphics artist, and I'm more into pixel art than
> > > anti-aliasing (though I do use anti-aliasing at times). And it seems when
> > > I try to draw something lets say using the pencil (at the smallest size
> > > you can get) the pixels around what I draw get messed up for some reason.
> > > I'm working in tiles (16x16), soo you can see that it gets quite
> > > annoying. I can fix it some times, but it just comes back. Anybody got a
> > > solution?
> >
> > Make sure that the brush selection is using the Circle 1x1 and not
> > something like Circle 3x3 fuzzy. Are you using a tablet? If so, also
> > verify that pressure sensitivity is set appropriately or turned off.
> Didn't seem to work
> 
You've probably already checked, but please verify that you're using the
Pencil tool and not something like the airbrush, brush or DrawWithInk
tool. All the icons look similar, but everything else but Pencil will
anti-alias the edges.



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Re: [expert] The GIMP problem

[andy]

On Monday 21 October 2002 04:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, andy wrote:
> > Well i'm sorta of a graphics artist, and I'm more into pixel art than
> > anti-aliasing (though I do use anti-aliasing at times). And it seems when
> > I try to draw something lets say using the pencil (at the smallest size
> > you can get) the pixels around what I draw get messed up for some reason.
> > I'm working in tiles (16x16), soo you can see that it gets quite
> > annoying. I can fix it some times, but it just comes back. Anybody got a
> > solution?
>
> Make sure that the brush selection is using the Circle 1x1 and not
> something like Circle 3x3 fuzzy. Are you using a tablet? If so, also
> verify that pressure sensitivity is set appropriately or turned off.
Didn't seem to work



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Re: [expert] Acomdata 40GB USB 2.0 hard drive

[Todd Lyons]

Larry Nguyen wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:18:49PM -0500 :
> 
> Thanks for the quick reply, Todd. I'm thinking of buying one. $99 at my 
> local CompUSA store.  Just want to make sure I can put MD on before 
> spending the money. Went to MD site but Acomdata wasn't listed as one of 
> the vendor.  I also went here 
> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?id=11 but no luck either.
> It's USB 2.0 so it should work rite? Any trick?

A definite maybe.  It all depends which chipset the usb controller built
in to the harddrive is.  If it's a standard "usb-storage" compatible
chipset, the answer is yes.  Unfortunately many MANY devices out there
decide to make their own designs.  The usb-storage module is constantly
changing as developers come across more of this crap hardware.

To be honest, I suggest that you scour the net with google looking for
people who have used it successfully.  Barring that, then look for known
devices that work.  Barring that, I'd say your chances are slim due to
two reasons:
1) it's brand new (or appears to be)
2) it's on sale for such a cheap price

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Re: [expert] The GIMP problem

[kwan]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, andy wrote:

> Well i'm sorta of a graphics artist, and I'm more into pixel art than 
> anti-aliasing (though I do use anti-aliasing at times). And it seems when I 
> try to draw something lets say using the pencil (at the smallest size you can 
> get) the pixels around what I draw get messed up for some reason. I'm working 
> in tiles (16x16), soo you can see that it gets quite annoying. I can fix it 
> some times, but it just comes back. Anybody got a solution?

Make sure that the brush selection is using the Circle 1x1 and not
something like Circle 3x3 fuzzy. Are you using a tablet? If so, also
verify that pressure sensitivity is set appropriately or turned off.



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Re: [expert] Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1

[Damon Lynch]

On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 10:58, Craig Williamson (ENZ) wrote:
3.  With the RandR extension hopefully coming to the next release of
> Mandrake, some of the Control Centre will be made redundant.  Redesign it
> for QT/KDE based rather than GTK based.  Mandrake is a KDE-pro company, are
> they not?  I'm not sure on the politics why they decided to go the GTK way,
> but they should really concentrate on one desktop/toolkit and improve that
> (lycoris like?).

Ranger (as I recall) and the odd developer have in the past said why it
was done the way it was they seemed like good reasons to me ;-)

> 
>   5.  The package support really get me personally.  Why do they
> include pre-release/beta versions of software in the OFFICIAL stable
> release.  Mandrake 9.1 should only concentrate on released versions of
> packages.   That is where the reliability and security problems come in.

Take for instance Quanta, which is a beta in 9.0.  I use this a lot.  I
don't there was a choice regarding putting in a beta of that package. 
The old version was KDE2 only.  The beta version included seems pretty
good, certainly superior to the old version for what I need to do.
(Version 3 of Quanta is a requested RPM in Mandrake Club).

As for the idea of looks for KDE and Gnome, I tend to agree that a bit
of focus on this could be good -- there is a lot happening in this area
in the last few months, which is great!

Damon
(also a kiwi)



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Re: [expert] Acomdata 40GB USB 2.0 hard drive

[Larry Nguyen]

Todd Lyons wrote:

Larry Nguyen wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 04:56:09PM -0500 :


Does anyone have the above drive working in MD9.0?



What does lsusb show?

Blue skies...		Todd


Thanks for the quick reply, Todd. I'm thinking of buying one. $99 at my 
local CompUSA store.  Just want to make sure I can put MD on before 
spending the money. Went to MD site but Acomdata wasn't listed as one of 
the vendor.  I also went here 
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?id=11 but no luck either.

It's USB 2.0 so it should work rite? Any trick?

-Larry


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Re: [expert] The GIMP problem

[Jason Guidry]

someone here may have an answer, but I would strongly suggest contacting
a gimp-centric list instead.  I just haven't heard anyone here mention a
strong graphic art bent in the year or so I've been on the list.

try starting here:

http://www.gimp.org/mailing_list.html

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 12:03, andy wrote:
> Well i'm sorta of a graphics artist, and I'm more into pixel art than 
> anti-aliasing (though I do use anti-aliasing at times). And it seems when I 
> try to draw something lets say using the pencil (at the smallest size you can 
> get) the pixels around what I draw get messed up for some reason. I'm working 
> in tiles (16x16), soo you can see that it gets quite annoying. I can fix it 
> some times, but it just comes back. Anybody got a solution?
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Re: [expert] Acomdata 40GB USB 2.0 hard drive

[Todd Lyons]

Larry Nguyen wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 04:56:09PM -0500 :
> Does anyone have the above drive working in MD9.0?

What does lsusb show?

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[expert] Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1

[Craig Williamson (ENZ)]

Title: Suggestions for Mandrake 9.1





Hi All,


    With the hype finally dying down from the current round of distro releases I thought I would add my two cents into the pool for the next version of Mandrake.

    1.  With Redhat 8.0 and Suse8.1, both companies have greatly enhanced the user experience with Gnome and KDE respectively.  Mandrake should do something special with KDE.  For example, redesign the kmenu.  Make it more appealing to the end user.  Throw around the ideas from kde-look.org for the kmenu and 'Mandrakeize' it :-).  What about something completely different like a pie-menu.  That would really bring the experience up another notch.

    2.  Create some window dressings (decorations) that say that this is a Mandrake OS (Suse style).  Work on the font rendering (xft2/fontconfig) and/or create some useable fonts.  The default blue style that Mandrake seems to use is getting boring now.  Develop some new graphics (crystallized?) for your core Mandrake apps rather than custom icons.

    3.  With the RandR extension hopefully coming to the next release of Mandrake, some of the Control Centre will be made redundant.  Redesign it for QT/KDE based rather than GTK based.  Mandrake is a KDE-pro company, are they not?  I'm not sure on the politics why they decided to go the GTK way, but they should really concentrate on one desktop/toolkit and improve that (lycoris like?).

    4.  For me, the installer is looking outdated.  So how hard is it to change the aesthetics of it.  The under-the-hood stuff is still top notch, but the GUI is looking old and unchanged for the last few releases.

    5.  The package support really get me personally.  Why do they include pre-release/beta versions of software in the OFFICIAL stable release.  Mandrake 9.1 should only concentrate on released versions of packages.   That is where the reliability and security problems come in.

    I hope this starts something.  If you guys don't like my ideas, say so.  Mention your ideas and see if it makes it into the next release.  For me Mandrake seems to be losing its focus.  It started off as redhat with KDE, but now is trying to be a Jack of all trades.  And is now a Master of None.  I'll throw around some solutions to my ideas somehow.  Thanks for reading this.  I hope I haven't bored you too much ;-).

Craig

[expert] The GIMP problem

[andy]

Well i'm sorta of a graphics artist, and I'm more into pixel art than 
anti-aliasing (though I do use anti-aliasing at times). And it seems when I 
try to draw something lets say using the pencil (at the smallest size you can 
get) the pixels around what I draw get messed up for some reason. I'm working 
in tiles (16x16), soo you can see that it gets quite annoying. I can fix it 
some times, but it just comes back. Anybody got a solution?


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[expert] Acomdata 40GB USB 2.0 hard drive

[Larry Nguyen]

Does anyone have the above drive working in MD9.0?

TIA

-Larry



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Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake 9...Laptop Sleep.....System clock out ofsync

[Sandeep Khanna]

Hi All,

Hee heereplying to myself..funny.

Just found out that a variable $CLOCK_SYNC needs to be available in the 
Environment for the APM suspend and wakeup to work properly and not 
mess-up the system time.

Just doing a...
export CLOCK_SYNC=""
at the root prompt gave good results. I was wondering which package was 
responsible for doing the needfull while installation on my computer !! 
I don't want to do a make-shift job by sticking it into /etc/profile 
just for the heck of it without knowing who the culprit is now.

--Sandeep


Sandeep Khanna wrote:

Hi All,

No, I am not using ACPI. Altough, that is what I would like to have. 
Unfortunately, the stock kernel supplied by Mandrake does not have the 
ACPI support compiled in.

[root@sandeepk resume.d]# rpm -qil apm-scripts
Name: apm-scripts  Relocations: /usr
Version : 0.1   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 3mdk  Build Date: Fri 22 Feb 
2002 09:41:29 PM EST
Install date: Sun 20 Oct 2002 06:40:32 PM EDT  Build Host: 
bi.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : System/ServersSource RPM: 
apm-scripts-0.1-3mdk.src.rpm
Size: 18884License: GPL
Packager: Mandrake Linux Team 
Summary : Script launched by apm on suspend and resume
Description :
APM-Script is launched by apm on resume and suspend, it start or stop
your network/sound etc... to make sure that everything work after
hybernation of your computer.
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/apmd_proxy
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/10usb
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/1hdparm
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/2terminal-beep
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/3sound
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/4XFree
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/5pcmcia
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/6network
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/7clock
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/8anacron
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/9hdparm
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/1sound
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/2hdparm
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/3network
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/4pcmcia
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/5XFree
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/6unload-sound
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/7usb
/etc/sysconfig/apmd
/usr/share/doc/apm-scripts-0.1
/usr/share/doc/apm-scripts-0.1/ChangeLog
[root@sandeepk resume.d]#

Is it supposed to be that way or not? But, I found it funny that we 
have the "clock" script being executed while "resume" but, not similar 
thing while going to "sleep" !!!

Can this be the reason ?

Anyone please?

--Sandeep




Aaron Peters wrote:

If apmd is running, the only thing I can think of is some issue with:

/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/7clock

which appears to be the script responsible for syncing back to the
hardware clock.  Maybe the exec bit is turned off?  Once I installed
this package, things worked for me from the get-go. . .

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:37, Sandeep Khanna wrote:
 

Hi,

Thanks for your quick response.

Aaron Peters wrote:

  

Sorry for the direct reply, but the mailing list refuses me for some
reason.  And I always feel the need to help out fellow 'Nova folks. . .

System clock- You need the apm-scripts package.  This happened to me
too.



This is what my system says
sandeepk@sandeepk ~ $ rpm -qa | grep apm
apm-scripts-0.1-3mdk
apmd-3.0.2-1mdk
sandeepk@sandeepk ~ $

What else do I need then?

  

OpenOffice.org- This seems to be a GNOME problem, rather than something
that can be fixed by any OOo settings.  You might want to try a newer
version of OOo/GNOME from contrib (if there is one).  FWIW, I used 
GNOME
and had the same issue, switched back to KDE and have no problems.

Gnomba- didn't work for me either, used LinNeighborhood for a bit 
before
switching back to KDE/komba2.



Thanks for the help. I have started ignoring the OpenOffice errors 
and working with it the way it is.

Yes, I used, use, would be using LinNeighbourhood until the Gnome 
guys come out with a "stable" Network browser in Nautilus (smb://).

Would love to go back to KDE myself but, the speed disappoints me 
and I keep coming back to GNOME. I do appreciate and like both of 
them for

  

Aaron



-- Sandeep

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Contact Number: (Home) 1-610-964-1320 (Office) 1-877-946-4622 Ext 
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and that is a great beginning. To fear failure is to fear the 
possibility of truth.
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Re: [expert] Disable KDE screensaver from the console?

[Barry Michels]

That put me on the right track, though.  Thanks!

http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2002-March/011919.html


On Monday 21 October 2002 05:14 pm, Barry Michels wrote:
> All that does is return the word 'true', but it doesn't actually do
> anything...
>
> On Monday 21 October 2002 01:53 pm, zephod wrote:
> > try this:
> >
> > dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface enable 'false'
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Z
> >
> > On Sunday 20 October 2002 20:33, Barry Michels wrote:
> > > I'd like to write a script that would turn off the screensaver before
> > > launching xawtv and re-enable it when I close the program.



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[expert] Re: Mandrake 9...Laptop Sleep.....System clock out of sync

[Sandeep Khanna]

Hi All,

No, I am not using ACPI. Altough, that is what I would like to have. 
Unfortunately, the stock kernel supplied by Mandrake does not have the 
ACPI support compiled in.

[root@sandeepk resume.d]# rpm -qil apm-scripts
Name: apm-scripts  Relocations: /usr
Version : 0.1   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 3mdk  Build Date: Fri 22 Feb 2002 
09:41:29 PM EST
Install date: Sun 20 Oct 2002 06:40:32 PM EDT  Build Host: 
bi.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : System/ServersSource RPM: 
apm-scripts-0.1-3mdk.src.rpm
Size: 18884License: GPL
Packager: Mandrake Linux Team 
Summary : Script launched by apm on suspend and resume
Description :
APM-Script is launched by apm on resume and suspend, it start or stop
your network/sound etc... to make sure that everything work after
hybernation of your computer.
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/apmd_proxy
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/10usb
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/1hdparm
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/2terminal-beep
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/3sound
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/4XFree
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/5pcmcia
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/6network
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/7clock
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/8anacron
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/9hdparm
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/1sound
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/2hdparm
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/3network
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/4pcmcia
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/5XFree
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/6unload-sound
/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/suspend.d/7usb
/etc/sysconfig/apmd
/usr/share/doc/apm-scripts-0.1
/usr/share/doc/apm-scripts-0.1/ChangeLog
[root@sandeepk resume.d]#

Is it supposed to be that way or not? But, I found it funny that we have 
the "clock" script being executed while "resume" but, not similar thing 
while going to "sleep" !!!

Can this be the reason ?

Anyone please?

--Sandeep




Aaron Peters wrote:

If apmd is running, the only thing I can think of is some issue with:

/etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d/7clock

which appears to be the script responsible for syncing back to the
hardware clock.  Maybe the exec bit is turned off?  Once I installed
this package, things worked for me from the get-go. . .

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:37, Sandeep Khanna wrote:
 

Hi,

Thanks for your quick response.

Aaron Peters wrote:

   

Sorry for the direct reply, but the mailing list refuses me for some
reason.  And I always feel the need to help out fellow 'Nova folks. . .

System clock- You need the apm-scripts package.  This happened to me
too.

 

This is what my system says
sandeepk@sandeepk ~ $ rpm -qa | grep apm
apm-scripts-0.1-3mdk
apmd-3.0.2-1mdk
sandeepk@sandeepk ~ $

What else do I need then?

   

OpenOffice.org- This seems to be a GNOME problem, rather than something
that can be fixed by any OOo settings.  You might want to try a newer
version of OOo/GNOME from contrib (if there is one).  FWIW, I used GNOME
and had the same issue, switched back to KDE and have no problems.

Gnomba- didn't work for me either, used LinNeighborhood for a bit before
switching back to KDE/komba2.

 

Thanks for the help. I have started ignoring the OpenOffice errors and 
working with it the way it is.

Yes, I used, use, would be using LinNeighbourhood until the Gnome guys 
come out with a "stable" Network browser in Nautilus (smb://).

Would love to go back to KDE myself but, the speed disappoints me and I 
keep coming back to GNOME. I do appreciate and like both of them for

   

Aaron

 

-- Sandeep

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Re: [expert] Disable KDE screensaver from the console?

[Barry Michels]

All that does is return the word 'true', but it doesn't actually do 
anything...


On Monday 21 October 2002 01:53 pm, zephod wrote:
> try this:
>
> dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface enable 'false'
>
> regards,
>
> Z
>
> On Sunday 20 October 2002 20:33, Barry Michels wrote:
> > I'd like to write a script that would turn off the screensaver before
> > launching xawtv and re-enable it when I close the program.



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Re: [expert] iptables : bad option ...

[hans privat]

hi Dan,
first at all - have a lot of thanks to say for helps in every case.
the example I have posted, I had found in an example of a doc-file,
where iptables would be explained --:))) but as in the most cases it
will happen, that some things are not running in that way, it should.
And then the surprise is very big - you know --:))) this is the so
called ooops-time.

anyway :
here are my facts of my "hopefully running firewall in the future"
have 2 ethercards :
eth0 is IP 10.0.0.10 and WAN-connected to a ADSL-Modem;
eth1 is IP 192.168.10.8 is LAN
this machine should be the firewall AND masquerade.

Dont't know if it is a good idea to have a dhcp running on it or not.In
some docs it will be recommended, some other docs says NO - 
anyway - first at all a masquerade and firewall should be the first
things, which should be realized - so I think.

Are these the faq's you have to know for that late meeting ?

bye hans

Am Mon, 2002-10-21 um 21.39 schrieb Daniel J. Cody:
> Hi again Hans -
> 
> I think I understand what you're trying to do, and you're on the right 
> track but just have a few syntax problems with your command..
> 
> hans privat wrote:
> > hi,
> > have detected a newone problem with an iptable-command, here it is :
> > 
> > iptables -N block -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
> 
> the "iptables -N " command will create a new chain, 'block' in 
> your case, and you're on the right track so far, but the mistake you 
> made was to try to apply rules and targets in the same command as the 
> creation of the chain, and you didn't specify an interface.
> 
> The quick solution would be to run two commands like so:
> 
> iptables -t filter -N block
> iptables -A block -i eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
> 
> if eth0 is the interface you're applying the chain against. If you want, 
> I can walk you through the steps above to get a working chain which I 
> would do in this email if I weren't late for a meeting, let me know if 
> you do though :)
> 
> Dan
> http://five2one.org/
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Help patching?

[Joan Tur]

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Es Dilluns 21 Octubre 2002 17:53, en Jack Coates va escriure:
> Let me guess -- you probably installed the ACPI patch first, right?
No, I haven't.  I've tryed to compile after having applyed the acpi patch with 
no luck.

Then I've uninstalled kernel-source, deleted the /src/linux-2.4.19-6mdk 
directory, reinstalled kernel-source and applied swsusp patch also without 
luck when trying to compile  8(

> That
> patch and the swsuspend patch won't coexist. I think I documented that
> on my VX88 page, but I can't remember for sure now. IIRC, ACPI
> suspension isn't going to happen with a 2.4 kernel.
So what are the combinations I should try?  Acpi patch?  Swsusp patch?  But 
not both?  8-?  If the first two (alone) should work I don't why they don't 
in my laptop  8(

Thanks!

> Jack
>
> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 12:57, Joan Tur wrote:
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> >
> > I'm trying to apply swsusp patch to kernel in order to be able to
> > hybernate my HP Omnibook XT1000, but I am asked something I don't know
> > how to answer: - -
> > [root@quinipt linux]# patch -p1 < patch-vanilla-2.4.19-swsusp14
> > Hunk #1 succeeded at 498 (offset -1 lines).
> > ...
> > can't find file to patch at input line 746
> > Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
> > The text leading up to this was:
> > - --
> >
> > |Index: linux-src/drivers/ide/hd.c
> > |diff -u linux-src/drivers/ide/hd.c:1.1.1.1
> >
> > linux-src/drivers/ide/hd.c:1.1.1.1.4.1
> >
> > |--- linux-src/drivers/ide/hd.c:1.1.1.1 Sun Apr 14 17:32:36 2002
> > |+++ linux-src/drivers/ide/hd.c Sun Apr 14 18:51:47 2002
> >
> > - --
> > File to patch:
> > - -
> >
> > What's the right answer?  Thanks!
> > - --
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Re: [expert] Is acpi support in mandrake's kernel-source?

[Joan Tur]

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Es Dilluns 21 Octubre 2002 21:37, en Jan Hendrik Mangold va escriure:
> Joan Tur wrote:
> >I've applied acpi-20020918 patch to MDK9 kernel and now it doesn't
> > compile, so I was wondering what's the acpi support included in
> > Mandrake's kernel source.
>
> I thought the 2.4.19-16mdk kernel already contained the patch. At least
> I got it to compile and work.
[quini@quinipt /]$ cat proc/acpi/info
ACPI-CA Version: 20011018
Sx States Supported: S0 S1 S3 S4 S5

It seems to be a little bit old, is't it??  8-?

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Re: [expert] OpenOffice crashes

[Christopher Cali]

Here's where it looks like it's terminating:
There's really no other info that looks out of the ordinary, it
terminates fine!


access("/tmp/OSL_PIPE_501_SingleOfficeIPC_1867879530", F_OK) = 0
connect(5, {sin_family=AF_UNIX,
path="/tmp/OSL_PIPE_501_SingleOfficeIPC_1867879530"}, 110) = 0
send(5, "InternalIPC::TerminateThread", 28, 0) = 28
shutdown(5, 2 /* send and receive */)   = 0
close(5)= 0
kill(2893, SIGRTMIN)   

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 15:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2002, Christopher Cali wrote:
> 
> > I am having problems with OpenOffice crashing.  I'm using Mandrake 9.0
> > with Gnome.  Upon opening oowriter as a user, the frame opens then
> > closes immediately.  I've seen questions posted about this before and
> > wondering if anybody has experienced this or found a solution.  Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> Try starting the ./soffice from the command line. It might give some
> more information about what's going wrong. If nothing shows up, try
> doing:
>   strace ./soffice > outfile
> 
> Then take a look at the bottom of outfile to see what errors are listed.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable

[bascule]

exactly, if i could find that then i could just edit whatever file it was to 
say 'camera' instead,
except of course that i also have a scsi removable drive that gets mounted 
there too if it's connected!

it's all a bit too clever for it's own good, i'd just like to turn this 
behaviour off and go back to good old manual mounting

bascule

On Monday 21 Oct 2002 7:58 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
>
> I took a look at this area, and it's definitely cause for suspicion, but
> I can't find exactly where it's doing what it does because it's a morass
> of functions which pass each other flags (so a variable may be defined
> in one file, called in a second for passing to a third, and acted on in
> the third).
>
> This set of scripts seems to do some cool stuff -- for instance, I think
> it's responsible for auto-detecting my memory stick slot and mounting it
> under /mnt/memory_card. But I'll be damned if I can find where it
> decided that /mnt/[foobar] is the right mount point...

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Re: [expert] Is acpi support in mandrake's kernel-source?

[Jack Coates]

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 12:37, Jan Hendrik Mangold wrote:
> Joan Tur wrote:
> 
> >I've applied acpi-20020918 patch to MDK9 kernel and now it doesn't compile, so 
> >I was wondering what's the acpi support included in Mandrake's kernel source.
> >
> I thought the 2.4.19-16mdk kernel already contained the patch. At least 
> I got it to compile and work.
> 

power support may be working, but you'll find the PCI IRQ management is
not.

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