Re: [expert] Using gcc 3.2: 'cc1' warning message

2002-10-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
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Am Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2002 21:30 schrieb Aleksey Naumov:
> Dear experts,
>
> I am using gcc 3.2 (on ML 9.0) and I get a lot of warnings from cc1:
>
>  cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory
> "/usr/local/include" cc1: warning:   as it has already been specified as
> a non-system directory
>
> I understand this warning is caused by '-I/usr/local/include' in the
> compilation line. So, '/usr/local/include' must be a system include
> directory in gcc 3.2.
>
> Is there any way to suppress this message, or remove 
> '/usr/local/include' from the default include list? A lot of packages I
> have to compile use '-I/usr/local/include' and it is a pain to deal with
> the flood of identical cc1 warnings.
>

It's more than a pain; cyrus' imap-2.0.16 does not configure correctly 
because they interprete these warning as an error.

So thats the big advantage of OpenSource, use the Source. search for 
/usr/local/include in the configure-scripts or Makefiles and remove it.

Martin

> Thank you,
> Aleksey

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Re: [expert] arts not working in two displays at once

2002-10-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
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Am Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2002 03:09 schrieb bascule:
> this devfs thing is really starting to hack me off, i see no reason why
> the 'first' user to log on locally gets to be 'king of audio'.
> if i try to avoid using devfs will this behaviour change?

Hi,

this is not a feature of devfs but of a little pam-module called 
pam_console (see man pam_console).

> i thought groups were the way to handle this sort of thing, but my
> ability to customise my machine is being removed by automation that
> requires actual coding skills to get around limitations it's introducing
> 'to make things easier'

na, you can see it both sides. In about more than 80% the standard behavior 
is no miss. an a poweruser in any case changes the whole system.

> i think mandrake should stop and consider the few folk for whom auto
> mountpoint creation for usb/removable devices is a pita and permissions
> getting set whether you like it or not, are not helpful, and allow us to
> opt out easily
>
> thanks for the info, i won't of course be doing anything about this now,
> i'll be too busy learning perl just to be able to understand what
> happens when i plug in my camera - let alone change it! (i don't think)
>
> can you tell i'm annoyed?
>
> bascule
>

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Re: [expert] arts not working in two displays at once

2002-10-23 Thread bascule
even logged as my daughter, ls -l /dev/sound/dsp has:
crw---1 bascule  audio
just as mikko said in his reply to me

bascule


On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 3:01 am, Todd Lyons wrote:
> bascule wrote on Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 02:09:03AM +0100 :
> > this devfs thing is really starting to hack me off, i see no reason why
> > the 'first' user to log on locally gets to be 'king of audio'.
>
> Logon as a user and then go do a ls -l of that file in /dev.  Then open
> another login session and login as a different user and then go do a ls
> -l of that file in /dev.  Are they both owned by the first user?  Or are
> they owned by the respective user who is viewing them?
>
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Re: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:06 pm, you wrote:


Do Chromium and Armagetron use SDL? I know frozen-bubble and tower toppler
do. Do those work for you? That will tell you if you have the normal libs.
By default, I don't think Mandrake installs the dev libs, which is what
you'll need for compiling...

I was able to get tuxtyping to compile with a little effort on 8.2 before I
moved to 9. Basically it involved getting the results of ./configure, going
to rpmfind.net, finding what RPM the file was in, installing the RPM and
then wash, rinse and repeat.

Good luck!

David



Hi David. Thanks for the reply. Well, I installed all the dev packages, 
thinking that might be the problem. Yes, tower toppler and frozen bubble work 
just fine (just tried).

Here is the output from a couple of apps I'm trying to compile.

This is glaxium:

checking for sdl-config... /usr/bin/sdl-config
checking for SDL - version >= 1.1.5... no
*** Could not run SDL test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for 
the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means SDL was incorrectly installed
*** or that you have moved SDL since it was installed. In the latter case, you
*** may want to edit the sdl-config script: /usr/bin/sdl-config
configure: error: *** SDL version  not found!

and this is Tuxpaint:

f86dga -lXv -lXinerama -ldl -lSDL_image -lSDL_ttf -lSDL_mixer -lm
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [tuxpaint] Error 1

I went to rpmfind/net and tried entering lasound but nothing was returned.

Any other thoughts, ideas, and/or sage advice? 

Thanks again!

Rpmfind.net is a cool site but use urpmf to search your local rpm 
database, first.  Don't know if this is what you are looking for:

[root@localhost rolf]# urpmf sdl-config
libSDL1.2-devel:/usr/bin/sdl-config
[root@localhost rolf]# urpmf lasound
[root@localhost rolf]# urpmf libsound.la
[root@localhost rolf]# urpmf liblasound
[root@localhost rolf]# urpmf sound.la
nethack_falconseye:/usr/lib/nethack_falconseye/sound/lament1.mid
nethack_falconseye:/usr/lib/nethack_falconseye/sound/lament2.mid
vsound:/usr/lib/vsound/libvsound.la
libalsa2-devel:/usr/lib/libasound.la
kdebase:/usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.la
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Re: [expert] arts not working in two displays at once

2002-10-23 Thread Todd Lyons
bascule wrote on Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 02:09:03AM +0100 :
> this devfs thing is really starting to hack me off, i see no reason why the 
> 'first' user to log on locally gets to be 'king of audio'.

Logon as a user and then go do a ls -l of that file in /dev.  Then open
another login session and login as a different user and then go do a ls
-l of that file in /dev.  Are they both owned by the first user?  Or are
they owned by the respective user who is viewing them?

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[expert] Can't get Zip drive to work. Can't get LICQ to work, possible permission probs..

2002-10-23 Thread Ken Thompson
Hello all and may I pull my hair out here?
For the past week and a bit I've been trying to get my Zip drive and Licq to 
work. Licq will open and run OK from a root term window but nothing I can do 
or have done will allow it to run as normal user. I've reduced the security 
level,  removed msec totally (and reinstalled when that made no difference), 
removed and reinstalled licq from the licq.org's rpm's changed perms on the 
executable in /usr/bin to rwx for everybody, removed and reinstalled from mdk 
rpm's and finally reinstalled the entire O/S. Result, same problem 
throughout. The Zip problem seems to be related, it won't allow me or any 
user access to the /mnt/zip folder.I've read all I could find and tried all 
the "fixes", disabled supermount, disabled devfs, changed the fstab entry all 
to no avail.
My Zip is an iOmega IDE internal Zip 100 and worked OK with 8.2 and back.
During some changes to the mount point and fstab I'd get a bad superblock, or 
too many mounted file systems type of error, changing back to original 
configuration results in "you don't have permissions to enter /mnt/zip"..
These two thing are show stoppers for me and 9.0, anybody able to rescue me 
before the guy's with the white dinner jackets show up??
Thanks,
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Re: [expert] arts not working in two displays at once

2002-10-23 Thread bascule
this devfs thing is really starting to hack me off, i see no reason why the 
'first' user to log on locally gets to be 'king of audio'.
if i try to avoid using devfs will this behaviour change?
i thought groups were the way to handle this sort of thing, but my ability to 
customise my machine is being removed by automation that requires actual 
coding skills to get around limitations it's introducing 'to make things 
easier'
i think mandrake should stop and consider the few folk for whom auto 
mountpoint creation for usb/removable devices is a pita and permissions 
getting set whether you like it or not, are not helpful, and allow us to opt 
out easily

thanks for the info, i won't of course be doing anything about this now, i'll 
be too busy learning perl just to be able to understand what happens when i 
plug in my camera - let alone change it! (i don't think)

can you tell i'm annoyed?

bascule

On Wednesday 23 Oct 2002 9:53 pm, Mikko Lipasti wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When you logged in on display 0, the system (pam -> devfsd, if I recall
> correctly) set you to be the owner of /dev/dsp (actually /dev/sound/dsp,
> /dev/dsp is a symlink to that), hence the Permission Denied. I think
> this could be fixed, but that would require giving at least group-wide
> access, which would mean that any user in that group would be allowed
> access to sound hardware (does DSP provide recording? Haven't tried). If
> you have lots of different users logging on locally while you're in and
> want everyone to have sound and all this to happen automatically and
> dynamically, good luck scripting :-)
>
> Put short: Yes, it's normal. Can it be fixed? Hairy. But with enough
> scripting and talent, perhaps not impossible.

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[expert] Scanner/Digital Camera Problem

2002-10-23 Thread andy
Ok, it seems i've run into yet another problem.
It seems that Linux knows that my Hewlett Packard ScanJet 3300C Scanner is 
there, and so too with my Intel Pocket PC Camera, but can't run either of 
them. Is it because I don't have any drivers for them? Whenever I try to go 
into my Scanner's properties, it asks for me to insert the 1st cd, and I do, 
and nothing happens, and my system slowly starts to freeze up. I am quite new 
to Linux, and HP doesn't have drivers for Linux, and neither does Intel. And 
XSane doesn't want to work either. Can someone help me out with this?


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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 goes instantly to suspend mode every 10min!

2002-10-23 Thread Larry Sword
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Panagiotis Melas wrote:

| Hello,
|
| I've posted the same problem before few weeks ago but none of the
| responses gave me a solution ;-( Anyway, I have some more information
| now which I hope will help.
|
| The same h/w was running Mandrake 8.2 without any problem. Since I
| installed Mandrake 9.0 the system is going into suspend mode (or
| something like suspend mode) for a second or two. It does this every 
10 minutes, it doesn't matter text mode, with or without framebuffer or 
X-windows, with APM and screensavers not installed.

- --- snip --

What are the exact symptoms you are experiencing?

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Re: [expert] autofs not unmounting

2002-10-23 Thread John McQuillen
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 01:10, mp wrote:
> Autofs in Mandrake 9.0 mounts drives automatically, but does not unmount 
> them when timeout expires. They must by umounted manually.
> 
> Anyone else can confirm this?
> 
I have no problems whatsoever with autofs unmounting after the timeout.

My auto.master file is as below:

/mnt/etc/auto.misc  --timeout=10
/net/etc/auto.net   --timeout=10

Perhaps your timeout is just too long? I think the default is 60
seconds.

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Re: [expert] arts not working in two displays at once

2002-10-23 Thread Mikko Lipasti
Hi,

When you logged in on display 0, the system (pam -> devfsd, if I recall
correctly) set you to be the owner of /dev/dsp (actually /dev/sound/dsp,
/dev/dsp is a symlink to that), hence the Permission Denied. I think
this could be fixed, but that would require giving at least group-wide
access, which would mean that any user in that group would be allowed
access to sound hardware (does DSP provide recording? Haven't tried). If
you have lots of different users logging on locally while you're in and
want everyone to have sound and all this to happen automatically and
dynamically, good luck scripting :-)

Put short: Yes, it's normal. Can it be fixed? Hairy. But with enough
scripting and talent, perhaps not impossible.

On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 22:08, bascule wrote:
> before i cry 'foul' i'd just like to check:
> should i be able to have a functional arts in two kde session?
> a friend came over to 'borrow' the broadband and logged on in to kde on 
> display 1, i'm already running kde on display 0, he got this artsmessage:
> device /dev/dsp can't be opened (permission denied),
> is this normal or can i fix it?

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RE: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Just a WAG here, but that sounds like a mesa header. I'd start looking
there...

The Glaxium web page also has a couple of links to things you need to have
in order to compile. 

Looks like a neat game. I'll have to download and get it going tonight.


David

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On Wednesday 23 October 2002 01:23 pm, you wrote:
> IIRC, you need some alsa dev libs as well as the SDL ones. That would
> explain the tuxpaint problem. It may also fix the glaxium problem as well.
> I *think* the alsa dev libs were on disc 2, but I might be wrong.
>
> Try installing those dev libs and see what happens. If you're still having
> problems, repost with the output of the config.log and we'll go from
> there...
>
> David

Got it!  It took awhile, but I found an rpm that installed the Alsa-dev

libraries, and that apparently was what was needed. Tuxpaint compiled 
perfectly. Glaxium still won't though, but its a different error message
now.

Its:

checking GL/glu.h usability... no
checking GL/glu.h presence... no
checking for GL/glu.h... no
No GL/glu.h header... cannot do anything !

I have no idea what that means, but I'll try finding glu.h on RPM net again.

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Re: [expert] autofs not unmounting

2002-10-23 Thread Todd Lyons
David Guntner wrote on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:31:41PM -0700 :
> > 
> > That's the way that it's always worked as far as I have known.  Are you
> > saying it works differently?
> I haven't tried using it in 9.0, but when I've used it in past versions, it 
> worked as described above - after the timeout period that you specify in 
> the configuration has elapsed, it automatically unmounts the drive.

I didn't see Bryan's response until I had already sent the previous
email.

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Re: [expert] autofs not unmounting

2002-10-23 Thread David Guntner
Todd Lyons grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> mp wrote on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 05:10:06PM +0200 :
> >
> > Autofs in Mandrake 9.0 mounts drives automatically, but does not unmount 
> > them when timeout expires. They must by umounted manually.
> 
> That's the way that it's always worked as far as I have known.  Are you
> saying it works differently?

I haven't tried using it in 9.0, but when I've used it in past versions, it 
worked as described above - after the timeout period that you specify in 
the configuration has elapsed, it automatically unmounts the drive.

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Re: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 01:23 pm, you wrote:
> IIRC, you need some alsa dev libs as well as the SDL ones. That would
> explain the tuxpaint problem. It may also fix the glaxium problem as well.
> I *think* the alsa dev libs were on disc 2, but I might be wrong.
>
> Try installing those dev libs and see what happens. If you're still having
> problems, repost with the output of the config.log and we'll go from
> there...
>
> David

Got it!  It took awhile, but I found an rpm that installed the Alsa-dev 
libraries, and that apparently was what was needed. Tuxpaint compiled 
perfectly. Glaxium still won't though, but its a different error message now.

Its:

checking GL/glu.h usability... no
checking GL/glu.h presence... no
checking for GL/glu.h... no
No GL/glu.h header... cannot do anything !

I have no idea what that means, but I'll try finding glu.h on RPM net again.

Thanks for all your help! :-)

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Re: [expert] proxy definitions

2002-10-23 Thread Todd Lyons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 12:04:50PM -0500 :
> 
> 500 Can't connect to network.path.som:30080 (Bad hostname
> 'network.path.som') http://cpan.org/RECENT>
> i entered .som instead of .com.  i found bad entries in
> /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh and .csh and corrected those but i'm
> still getting the same error.  is there another place that
> mistyped name may be stored, or do i need to restart some part of
> networking to reread those files?  if so, which deamon/program?

/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/CPAN/Config.pm

Go down to the line that defines urllist.

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Re: [expert] autofs not unmounting

2002-10-23 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Milos Prudek wrote:

Hi,

I was looking forward to use supermount but it does not work very well 
in Mandrake 9.0. Details in separate post. So I tried autofs.

Autofs in Mandrake 9.0 mounts drives automatically, but does not unmount 
them when timeout expires. They must by umounted manually.

auto.master:
/mnt/etc/auto.drives --timeout=20

Ignore bropken man pages and do this:

/mnt/etc/auto.drives --timeout 20

the = doesn't work. use a space.

I have over 20 linux workstations with autofs working fine. Took awile 
to track down this problem.


auto.drives:
zip -fstype=vfat,user,rw,umask=7007 :/dev/sda4
cdrom   -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/scd0
floppy  -fstype=vfat,user,rw,umask=7007 :/dev/fd0
win -fstype=vfat,user,ro:/dev/hda2

fstab:
/dev/hda6 / reiserfs notail 1 1
/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/scd0   /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,nosuid,ro,user   0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy noauto noauto,nosuid,user   0 0
/dev/hda2 /mnt/win vfat noauto 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0

This autofs problem did not appear in my previous Linux systems.

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Re: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread Todd Lyons
Ronald J. Hall wrote on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:14:53PM -0400 :
> 
> checking for sdl-config... /usr/bin/sdl-config
> checking for SDL - version >= 1.1.5... no

[root@fiji /usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk]# urpmf sdl-config
libSDL1.2-devel:/usr/bin/sdl-config

> and this is Tuxpaint:
> 
> f86dga -lXv -lXinerama -ldl -lSDL_image -lSDL_ttf -lSDL_mixer -lm
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound

[root@fiji /usr/src/linux-2.4.19-16mdk]# urpmf asound

libalsa2-devel:/usr/lib/libasound.la
libalsa2-devel:/usr/lib/libasound.so

> I went to rpmfind/net and tried entering lasound but nothing was returned.

-lasound means "link with the asound libs" and the system will look for
libasound.so to exist somewhere on the system.  You can specify
additional paths to look with -L/path/to/lib

> Any other thoughts, ideas, and/or sage advice? 

Mandrake has version 1.2 of SDL, so it should be able to compile.  You
just need to install libalsa2-devel and you should be able to compile
Tuxpaint.

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[expert] Mandrake 9.0 goes instantly to suspend mode every 10 min!

2002-10-23 Thread Panagiotis Melas
Hello,

I've posted the same problem before few weeks ago but none of the
responses gave me a solution ;-( Anyway, I have some more information
now which I hope will help.

The same h/w was running Mandrake 8.2 without any problem. Since I
installed Mandrake 9.0 the system is going into suspend mode (or
something like suspend mode) for a second or two. It does this every 10 
minutes, it doesn't matter text mode, with or without framebuffer or 
X-windows, with APM and screensavers not installed.
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 >
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 32768)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 50k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Mounted devfs on /dev
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 136k freed
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 18:49:04 Sep 20 2002
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd800, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd400, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd000, IRQ 9
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
usbdevfs: remount parameter error
Adding Swap: 248968k swap-space (priority -1)
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
parport0: irq 7 detected
imm: Version 2.05 (for Linux 2.4.0)
NTFS driver 2.1.0a [Flags: R/O MODULE].
NTFS-fs warning (device 03:01): parse_options(): Option iocharset is 
deprecated.
 Please use option nls= in the future.
NTFS volume version 3.0.
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.25
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xd2877f00, 00:20:ed:15:37:37, IRQ 5
eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139B'
i2c-core.o: i2c core module version 2.6.4 (20020719)
i2c-proc.o version 2.6.4 (20020719)
i2c-core.o: i2c core module version 2.6.4 (20020719)
i2c-viapro.o version 2.6.4 (20020719)
i2c-viapro.o: Found Via VT8233 device
i2c-viapro.o: Via Pro SMBus detected and initialized
i2c-isa.o version 2.6.4 (20020719)
i2c-isa.o: ISA bus access for i2c modules initialized.
i2c-proc.o version 2.6.4 (20020719)
eeprom.o version 2.6.4 (20020719)
eth0: Setting half-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability .
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
es1371: version v0.30 time 18:46:14 Sep 20 2002


Actually I did that during the system installation while it was 
unpacking s/w!

Running processes do not cause errors, e.g. I do not see any disruption, 
ppp runs ok only MP3 player repeats the last sec or so.

I would apreciate any comments and thnaks in advance.

Panos


P.S. include log output as well as the dmesg which complains for an
unexpected IO-APIC WARNING


/var/log/messages
.
Oct 23 20:53:56 mpileni network: Shutting down interface eth0:  succeeded
Oct 23 20:53:56 mpileni network: Shutting down loopback interface: 
succeeded
Oct 23 20:53:56 mpileni /etc/hotplug/net.agent: NET unregister event not 
supported
Oct 23 20:53:56 mpileni gpm: gpm shutdown succeeded
Oct 23 20:53:57 mpileni apmd[989]: System Suspend
Oct 23 20:54:01 mpileni usb: Initializing USB controller (usb-uhci): 
succeeded
Oct 23 20:54:01 mpileni kernel: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
Oct 23 20:54:01 mpileni network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
Oct 23 20:54:02 mpileni network: Bringing up loopback interface:  succeeded
Oct 23 20:54:02 mpileni kernel: 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.25
Oct 23 20:54:02 mpileni kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 
0xd2877f00, 00:20:ed:15:37:37, IRQ 5
Oct 23 20:54:02 mpileni kernel: eth0: Setting half-duplex based on 
auto-negotiated partner ability .
Oct 23 20:54:04 mpileni network: Bringing up interface eth0:  succeeded
Oct 23 20:54:04 mpileni netfs: Mounting other filesystems:  succeeded
Oct 23 20:54:05 mpileni apmd[989]: Normal Resume after 00:00:08 (-1% 
unknown) AC power



Linux version 2.4.19-16mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake 
Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk)) #1 Fri Sep 20 18:15:05 CEST 2002
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)

Re: [expert] autofs not unmounting

2002-10-23 Thread Todd Lyons
mp wrote on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 05:10:06PM +0200 :
> Autofs in Mandrake 9.0 mounts drives automatically, but does not unmount 
> them when timeout expires. They must by umounted manually.

That's the way that it's always worked as far as I have known.  Are you
saying it works differently?

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Re: [expert] Wish for 9.1

2002-10-23 Thread Jim C
I looked at the GNOME help browser earlier with the same idea in mind 
and it did not seem to have more functionality than the KDE Help Center.

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 08:05 -0700, Jim C wrote:


The one that allowed you to specify which help files where and would 
rebuild it's index on command. It could be used to search any text based 
document. I believe that was Mandrake 8.1.


Oh yes, now I know what you mean. I never used it so at first I did
not know. I use Mandrake Linux since v.5.3 so I was curious.

I just saw that GNOME2 has a similar thing, the Gnome Help Browser.

Normally I do a 'man foo' or 'info foo' or 'slocate HOWTO > helplist'
and then I have a list to browse.

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[expert] Using gcc 3.2: 'cc1' warning message

2002-10-23 Thread Aleksey Naumov
Dear experts,

I am using gcc 3.2 (on ML 9.0) and I get a lot of warnings from cc1:

 cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory "/usr/local/include"
 cc1: warning:   as it has already been specified as a non-system directory

I understand this warning is caused by '-I/usr/local/include' in the 
compilation line. So, '/usr/local/include' must be a system include directory 
in gcc 3.2. 

Is there any way to suppress this message, or remove  '/usr/local/include' 
from the default include list? A lot of packages I have to compile use 
'-I/usr/local/include' and it is a pain to deal with the flood of identical 
cc1 warnings.

Thank you,
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Re: [expert] Re: DNS problems on 9.0

2002-10-23 Thread Todd Lyons
Martin Fahrendorf wrote on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 08:45:33AM +0200 :
> >
> > > $ORIGIN .

Get rid of the above line.

> > > IN NS   enigma.

Get rid of the trailing dot.

> > > IN MX 10enigma.

Get rid of the trailing dot.

> > > $ORIGIN microverse.net.
> > > $TTL 86400  ; 1 day

Get rid of both these lines (already have the important one at the top)

> > > localhost IN A   127.0.0.1

Get rid of this line.

> > > ftp IN CNAMEenigma.
> > > www IN CNAMEenigma.
> > > mailIN CNAMEenigma.

Get rid of the trailing dot on each line.

> > > spartack.   IN A192.168.1.253   ; comment
> > > homeworld.  IN A192.168.1.252   ; comment

Get rid of the trailing dot on each line.

> is there realy a dot (.) after the name enigma? so the host ftp resolves to 
> "enigma." includes the dot and not to enigma.microverse.net. enigma. can 
> not be resolved. The dot at the end of a hostname in the bind db says not 
> to append the domainname to the name. Replace the dot at the end of the 
> hostnames and retry.

I am so embarrassed that I didn't see this before Martin sent this email.
Martin, this was great catch.  I glossed over it and didn't even pay
attention to it.  Like I said, I'm embarrassed.

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Re: [expert] mail headers in Evolution

2002-10-23 Thread Jan Hendrik Mangold
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 12:45, Nicolas VERITE wrote:

Hi !

Using Evolution 1.0.8 under Mandrake 9.0,
I sometimes would like to have access
to the headers of the emails I received.

I couldn't find any menu or right-click
that proposes me such a thing...

Is "View->Message Display->Show Full Headers" what you are looking for?

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[expert] mail headers in Evolution

2002-10-23 Thread Nicolas VERITE
Hi !

Using Evolution 1.0.8 under Mandrake 9.0,
I sometimes would like to have access
to the headers of the emails I received.

I couldn't find any menu or right-click
that proposes me such a thing...

Idea ?

Thanks
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Re: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread Serge
lasound is alsa-devel libraries


On Wednesday 23 October 2002 19:23, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
> IIRC, you need some alsa dev libs as well as the SDL ones. That would
> explain the tuxpaint problem. It may also fix the glaxium problem as well.
> I *think* the alsa dev libs were on disc 2, but I might be wrong.
>
> Try installing those dev libs and see what happens. If you're still having
> problems, repost with the output of the config.log and we'll go from
> there...
>
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:darklord@;setel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] SDL problems
>
> On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:06 pm, you wrote:
> > Do Chromium and Armagetron use SDL? I know frozen-bubble and tower
> > toppler do. Do those work for you? That will tell you if you have the
> > normal libs. By default, I don't think Mandrake installs the dev libs,
> > which is what you'll need for compiling...
> >
> > I was able to get tuxtyping to compile with a little effort on 8.2 before
>
> I
>
> > moved to 9. Basically it involved getting the results of ./configure,
>
> going
>
> > to rpmfind.net, finding what RPM the file was in, installing the RPM and
> > then wash, rinse and repeat.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > David
>
> Hi David. Thanks for the reply. Well, I installed all the dev packages,
> thinking that might be the problem. Yes, tower toppler and frozen bubble
> work
> just fine (just tried).
>
> Here is the output from a couple of apps I'm trying to compile.
>
> This is glaxium:
>
> checking for sdl-config... /usr/bin/sdl-config
> checking for SDL - version >= 1.1.5... no
> *** Could not run SDL test program, checking why...
> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for
> the
> *** exact error that occured. This usually means SDL was incorrectly
> installed
> *** or that you have moved SDL since it was installed. In the latter case,
> you
> *** may want to edit the sdl-config script: /usr/bin/sdl-config
> configure: error: *** SDL version  not found!
>
> and this is Tuxpaint:
>
> f86dga -lXv -lXinerama -ldl -lSDL_image -lSDL_ttf -lSDL_mixer -lm
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [tuxpaint] Error 1
>
> I went to rpmfind/net and tried entering lasound but nothing was returned.
>
> Any other thoughts, ideas, and/or sage advice? 
>
> Thanks again!



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[expert] arts not working in two displays at once

2002-10-23 Thread bascule
before i cry 'foul' i'd just like to check:
should i be able to have a functional arts in two kde session?
a friend came over to 'borrow' the broadband and logged on in to kde on 
display 1, i'm already running kde on display 0, he got this artsmessage:
device /dev/dsp can't be opened (permission denied),
is this normal or can i fix it?

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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable

2002-10-23 Thread bascule
my camera isn't supported by gphoto apparently but, since it is identified in 
usbview as a different casio camera that is supported by gphoto, that's not a 
bad idea,
i'll play with editing files, though i'll be just guessing what to mess with, 
back up first i think :-)
cheers

bascule

On Wednesday 23 Oct 2002 5:59 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
> The camera is being detected as a mass storage device because that's the
> fallback -- if the camera can't be detected as anything else, you can
> always just mount the damn thing as a VFAT disk and pull the photos off.
> Out of curiousity, have you installed the gphoto drivers? That might
> help your system identify a camera...
>
> I don't know how to make it not do that, but you can edit that library
> file, find the section that's triggered by your camera, and change the
> mount point there. Clearly the sections labeled camera aren't the
> sections that are triggered by yours, so you might do well to focus on
> other parts of the file.
>
>
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Re: [expert] autofs not unmounting

2002-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
Milos,

John McQuillen has had experience with autofs; he may be able to offer
some advice.  BTW, greets to ya, John.  ;)

LX

On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 11:55, Milos Prudek wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was looking forward to use supermount but it does not work very well
> in Mandrake 9.0. Details in separate post. So I tried autofs.
> 
> Autofs in Mandrake 9.0 mounts drives automatically, but does not
unmount 
> them when timeout expires. They must by umounted manually.
> 
> auto.master:
> /mnt/etc/auto.drives --timeout=20
> 
> auto.drives:
> zip -fstype=vfat,user,rw,umask=7007 :/dev/sda4
> cdrom   -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/scd0
> floppy  -fstype=vfat,user,rw,umask=7007 :/dev/fd0
> win -fstype=vfat,user,ro:/dev/hda2
> 
> fstab:
> /dev/hda6 / reiserfs notail 1 1
> /dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> /dev/scd0   /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,nosuid,ro,user   0 0
> /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy noauto noauto,nosuid,user   0 0
> /dev/hda2 /mnt/win vfat noauto 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
> 
> This autofs problem did not appear in my previous Linux systems.
> 
> Anyone else can confirm this?
> 
> -- 
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[expert] looking for prof. help ...

2002-10-23 Thread hans privat
hi,
am looking for professionell help in setting up :
a firewall, masquerade, imap, dhcp with iptables DNS and DHCP especially
for mdk 8.2 or 9.0

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Re: [expert] Spam Assassin

2002-10-23 Thread kwan
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Brian York wrote:

> Who has experience with spam assassin? 
> 
> Can it be setup as a passthough server or does it have to be used on the
> actual mail server.
> 
It can be used both ways. It's quite flexible and you can set it up
either as a local procmail filter or called through sendmail/postfix
directly.

Here's an example of a local mailbox filter through procmail:

PATH= /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
LOGFILE=$HOME/tmp/procmail.log
VERBOSE=no
COMSAT=no
SENDMAIL=/usr/bin/faces.sendmail

:0fw
| spamassassin -P

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
caughtspam


:0:
* ^Reply-To.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IN.mandrake

:0:
* ^To.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IN.mandrake

:0:
* ^Reply-To.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
IN.mandrake


---End


Here's an example of using spam assasin on an archiving filter (this can
be changed minimally to work with public lists):

In your aliases file:
archive: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmail/filter.rc"

In the /etc/procmail/filter.rc file:
:0fw
| /usr/bin/spamassassin -P

:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
/tmp/caughtspam

:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: No
|  /usr/local/bin/archive_mail 


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If you're running a really high load server you can replace spamassassin
with spamd. You can also call it directly from within sendmail or
postfix. I don't have a ready configuration but it is not difficult at
all to configure.



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Re: [expert] Spam Assassin

2002-10-23 Thread Vox

This time Brian York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> Who has experience with spam assassin? 

  I've been using it for a few months, but..

> Can it be setup as a passthough server or does it have to be used on the
> actual mail server.

  I have no clue what you mean by "passthrough server" in this
  context...could you be a bit more explicit?

  Vox

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RE: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

IIRC, you need some alsa dev libs as well as the SDL ones. That would
explain the tuxpaint problem. It may also fix the glaxium problem as well. I
*think* the alsa dev libs were on disc 2, but I might be wrong.

Try installing those dev libs and see what happens. If you're still having
problems, repost with the output of the config.log and we'll go from
there...

David

-Original Message-
From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:darklord@;setel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] SDL problems


On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:06 pm, you wrote:
> Do Chromium and Armagetron use SDL? I know frozen-bubble and tower toppler
> do. Do those work for you? That will tell you if you have the normal libs.
> By default, I don't think Mandrake installs the dev libs, which is what
> you'll need for compiling...
>
> I was able to get tuxtyping to compile with a little effort on 8.2 before
I
> moved to 9. Basically it involved getting the results of ./configure,
going
> to rpmfind.net, finding what RPM the file was in, installing the RPM and
> then wash, rinse and repeat.
>
> Good luck!
>
> David

Hi David. Thanks for the reply. Well, I installed all the dev packages, 
thinking that might be the problem. Yes, tower toppler and frozen bubble
work 
just fine (just tried).

Here is the output from a couple of apps I'm trying to compile.

This is glaxium:

checking for sdl-config... /usr/bin/sdl-config
checking for SDL - version >= 1.1.5... no
*** Could not run SDL test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for 
the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means SDL was incorrectly
installed
*** or that you have moved SDL since it was installed. In the latter case,
you
*** may want to edit the sdl-config script: /usr/bin/sdl-config
configure: error: *** SDL version  not found!

and this is Tuxpaint:

f86dga -lXv -lXinerama -ldl -lSDL_image -lSDL_ttf -lSDL_mixer -lm
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [tuxpaint] Error 1

I went to rpmfind/net and tried entering lasound but nothing was returned.

Any other thoughts, ideas, and/or sage advice? 

Thanks again!

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Re: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 12:06 pm, you wrote:
> Do Chromium and Armagetron use SDL? I know frozen-bubble and tower toppler
> do. Do those work for you? That will tell you if you have the normal libs.
> By default, I don't think Mandrake installs the dev libs, which is what
> you'll need for compiling...
>
> I was able to get tuxtyping to compile with a little effort on 8.2 before I
> moved to 9. Basically it involved getting the results of ./configure, going
> to rpmfind.net, finding what RPM the file was in, installing the RPM and
> then wash, rinse and repeat.
>
> Good luck!
>
> David

Hi David. Thanks for the reply. Well, I installed all the dev packages, 
thinking that might be the problem. Yes, tower toppler and frozen bubble work 
just fine (just tried).

Here is the output from a couple of apps I'm trying to compile.

This is glaxium:

checking for sdl-config... /usr/bin/sdl-config
checking for SDL - version >= 1.1.5... no
*** Could not run SDL test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for 
the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means SDL was incorrectly installed
*** or that you have moved SDL since it was installed. In the latter case, you
*** may want to edit the sdl-config script: /usr/bin/sdl-config
configure: error: *** SDL version  not found!

and this is Tuxpaint:

f86dga -lXv -lXinerama -ldl -lSDL_image -lSDL_ttf -lSDL_mixer -lm
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [tuxpaint] Error 1

I went to rpmfind/net and tried entering lasound but nothing was returned.

Any other thoughts, ideas, and/or sage advice? 

Thanks again!

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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable

2002-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
The camera is being detected as a mass storage device because that's the
fallback -- if the camera can't be detected as anything else, you can
always just mount the damn thing as a VFAT disk and pull the photos off.
Out of curiousity, have you installed the gphoto drivers? That might
help your system identify a camera...

I don't know how to make it not do that, but you can edit that library
file, find the section that's triggered by your camera, and change the
mount point there. Clearly the sections labeled camera aren't the
sections that are triggered by yours, so you might do well to focus on
other parts of the file.

On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 04:01, bascule wrote:
> thanks for the info jack,
> but this is so over my head!
> i've looked in detect_devices.pm
> i can see references to 'camera' which is what i would wish but i get 
> 'removable' instead perhaps because whatever /\bcamera\b/i;
> is isn't happening for me, what would be nice is turn all this auto stuff off 
> since it obviously needs more work,
> i get a reference to a scsi removable disk in dmesg when the camera is 
> detected maybe that's where things go wrong,
> how do i get my system to let me do things manually, every time i write an 
> fstab line for my camera it get's deleted!
> 
> and to think i only moved up to 9.0 'cos xmms got trashed!
> 
> bascule
> 
> On Tuesday 22 Oct 2002 12:14 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> > I'm starting to wonder if it is getting the base name by looking at the
> > PCI or USB information for the device...
> >
> > /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script seems to be the one making the
> > directory and modifying /etc/fstab. It relies on the variable $mpoint.
> > So do many of the other scripts in /etc/dynamic... but none of them
> > actually set the damned variable.
> >
> > and in looking for it, we discover that rgrep isn't actually recursing
> > (sort of belies the r, neh?):
> > [jack@chupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/*
> > [jack@chupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/dynamic/*
> > /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
> > --$1 $2 | while read mpoint type; do
> > /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:   [ ! -d $mpoint ] && mkdir
> > $mpoint
> > /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:   mount $mpoint
> > ...
> > man rgrep, and
> >-r
> >   recursively scan through directory tree
> >
> > sigh... yes Virginia, the rgrep command requires a freaking -r flag to
> > make it actually recurse. That's pretty lame.
> >
> > However, even with an rgrep -r I still can't find the memory_card string
> > or the mpoint variable definition... google to the rescue. The Answer
> > Guy posted this snippet:
> > "mount | {
> > IFS="  (,)";
> > while read dev x mpoint x type opts; do
> >echo $dev $type;
> 
> -- 
> Noble dragons don't have friends. The nearest they can get to the idea is an 
> enemy who is still alive.
> (Guards! Guards!)
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Wish for 9.1

2002-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 08:05 -0700, Jim C wrote:
> The one that allowed you to specify which help files where and would 
> rebuild it's index on command. It could be used to search any text based 
> document. I believe that was Mandrake 8.1.

Oh yes, now I know what you mean. I never used it so at first I did
not know. I use Mandrake Linux since v.5.3 so I was curious.

I just saw that GNOME2 has a similar thing, the Gnome Help Browser.

Normally I do a 'man foo' or 'info foo' or 'slocate HOWTO > helplist'
and then I have a list to browse.

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[expert] Spam Assassin

2002-10-23 Thread Brian York
Who has experience with spam assassin? 

Can it be setup as a passthough server or does it have to be used on the
actual mail server.

Thanks
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RE: [expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Do Chromium and Armagetron use SDL? I know frozen-bubble and tower toppler
do. Do those work for you? That will tell you if you have the normal libs.
By default, I don't think Mandrake installs the dev libs, which is what
you'll need for compiling...

I was able to get tuxtyping to compile with a little effort on 8.2 before I
moved to 9. Basically it involved getting the results of ./configure, going
to rpmfind.net, finding what RPM the file was in, installing the RPM and
then wash, rinse and repeat. 

Good luck!

David

-Original Message-
From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:darklord@;setel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:54 AM
To: Mandrake Expert List
Subject: [expert] SDL problems



Apologies if this is the wrong place for this - but I posted it to the
Newbie 
list first with -0- replies:


---

Well, I didn't even know it but apparently I've got some SDL problems. 
Everything from my 8.2 CD's is installed, but whenever I try to compile 
something that requires SDL, invariably I get an error that says SDL can't
be 
found. I went to libsdl.org and d/l'ed the latest RPMs' but if you try to 
install them there is a conflict. Go to remove the older version and there 
are 10,000 dependencies.

Can I go ahead anyways and remove the old SDL stuff, (and of course, all the

other stuff thats tied to it) then install the newest version of SDL, 
reinstall the software that was removed, and have it find the newer version?

Anyone have this problem before and know how to fix it? Thanks

PS One author says he has received complaints about Mandrake's SDL install 
being broke before and more than once, but its odd to me that games here
like 
Chromium and Armagetron work fine, out of the box.

Thanks everyone.

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>Lord
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[expert] proxy definitions

2002-10-23 Thread JM5379
i'm experimenting with a perl module (lwp:simple) with the
following commandline:

perl -MLWP::Simple -e "getprint 'http://cpan.org/RECENT'"

i'm going through a firewall and get the 500 error (paraphrased):

500 Can't connect to network.path.som:30080 (Bad hostname
'network.path.som') http://cpan.org/RECENT>

i entered .som instead of .com.  i found bad entries in
/etc/profile.d/proxy.sh and .csh and corrected those but i'm
still getting the same error.  is there another place that
mistyped name may be stored, or do i need to restart some part of
networking to reread those files?  if so, which deamon/program?

thanks,
joe



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[expert] SDL problems

2002-10-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Apologies if this is the wrong place for this - but I posted it to the Newbie 
list first with -0- replies:

---

Well, I didn't even know it but apparently I've got some SDL problems. 
Everything from my 8.2 CD's is installed, but whenever I try to compile 
something that requires SDL, invariably I get an error that says SDL can't be 
found. I went to libsdl.org and d/l'ed the latest RPMs' but if you try to 
install them there is a conflict. Go to remove the older version and there 
are 10,000 dependencies.

Can I go ahead anyways and remove the old SDL stuff, (and of course, all the 
other stuff thats tied to it) then install the newest version of SDL, 
reinstall the software that was removed, and have it find the newer version?

Anyone have this problem before and know how to fix it? Thanks

PS One author says he has received complaints about Mandrake's SDL install 
being broke before and more than once, but its odd to me that games here like 
Chromium and Armagetron work fine, out of the box.

Thanks everyone.

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[expert] autofs not unmounting

2002-10-23 Thread mp
Autofs in Mandrake 9.0 mounts drives automatically, but does not unmount 
them when timeout expires. They must by umounted manually.

Anyone else can confirm this?

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Re: [expert] Wish for 9.1

2002-10-23 Thread Jim C
The one that allowed you to specify which help files where and would 
rebuild it's index on command. It could be used to search any text based 
document. I believe that was Mandrake 8.1.

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 13:45 -0700, Jim C wrote:


Several versions ago there was this great little search tool for the 
docs built into Mandrake Help center... man do I miss that.


What do you mean? Which 'help center' ?

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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable

2002-10-23 Thread bascule
thanks for the info jack,
but this is so over my head!
i've looked in detect_devices.pm
i can see references to 'camera' which is what i would wish but i get 
'removable' instead perhaps because whatever /\bcamera\b/i;
is isn't happening for me, what would be nice is turn all this auto stuff off 
since it obviously needs more work,
i get a reference to a scsi removable disk in dmesg when the camera is 
detected maybe that's where things go wrong,
how do i get my system to let me do things manually, every time i write an 
fstab line for my camera it get's deleted!

and to think i only moved up to 9.0 'cos xmms got trashed!

bascule

On Tuesday 22 Oct 2002 12:14 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> I'm starting to wonder if it is getting the base name by looking at the
> PCI or USB information for the device...
>
> /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script seems to be the one making the
> directory and modifying /etc/fstab. It relies on the variable $mpoint.
> So do many of the other scripts in /etc/dynamic... but none of them
> actually set the damned variable.
>
> and in looking for it, we discover that rgrep isn't actually recursing
> (sort of belies the r, neh?):
> [jack@chupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/*
> [jack@chupacabra jack]$ sudo rgrep mpoint /etc/dynamic/*
> /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:/usr/sbin/drakupdate_fstab --auto
> --$1 $2 | while read mpoint type; do
> /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:   [ ! -d $mpoint ] && mkdir
> $mpoint
> /etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script:   mount $mpoint
> ...
> man rgrep, and
>-r
>   recursively scan through directory tree
>
> sigh... yes Virginia, the rgrep command requires a freaking -r flag to
> make it actually recurse. That's pretty lame.
>
> However, even with an rgrep -r I still can't find the memory_card string
> or the mpoint variable definition... google to the rescue. The Answer
> Guy posted this snippet:
> "mount | {
>   IFS="  (,)";
>   while read dev x mpoint x type opts; do
>  echo $dev $type;

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Re: [expert] Problems with DHCP client on Mandrake 9.0?

2002-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 12:01, Vox wrote:
> 
> This time "Jim Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> becomes daring and writes:
> 
>   *Please* make your mail client wrap at 78 columns!
> 

Actually This could be said to a number of people of late.  Please if at
all possible wrap to at least 78 (Actually 60 is best).  If at all
possible.  Also Please no html e-mail... Since Outlook and others don't
really put your page in html (just slaps a  tag around it.  Many
readers try to put the entire e-mail on one line and as a result you
will wind up with text that requires a magnifying glass to read.  And No
... I won't believe that "everybody runs html e-mail get with the
times:  Everyboddy doesn't, and of course the logically paralell is that
"everybody is using Windows, stop using Linux and get with the
program..."  taint gonna do that one either.  

James




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Re: [expert] proftpd doesn't work ?

2002-10-23 Thread tarvid
I had a couple of problems with proftpd.

One was caused by dhcp and hosts/dns. When I got my naming and ip problems 
straightened out, proftpd started normally. I fiind it helpful to put a tail 
on /var/log/messages when I restart servers after reconfiguration.

The second was I forgot to install proftpd-anonymous and tried to patch the 
config files by hand (Ben Reser pointed that one out to me).

Jim Tarvid

On Tuesday 22 October 2002 07:58 pm, Rodrigo Sanchez Olavarria wrote:
> Hi experts !
>   I have been trying to install ProFTPD from my new MDK9.0
> distribution, but it doesn't work  ...
> When I used gnome RPM to verify proftpd-1.2.5.. , one problem
> was found in /etc/rc.d/init.d/proftpd file ...:
> "md5, file size, modification time "
>
> When I shutdown or reboot my computer, the daemon says "FAILED" to
> shutdown proftpd ...  ..
> I downloaded from linux-mandrake.com the package again, but the
> problem persist ...
>
> I'm wrong ? proftpd ?
>
> Rodrigo
> DGF, U. de Chile



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RE: [expert] RE: LM9.0 gdb, threads and SIG32

2002-10-23 Thread Colin Walker


> -Original Message-
> From: Rolf Pedersen [mailto:rolfpedersen@;mindspring.com]
> Sent: 22 October 2002 16:31
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] RE: LM9.0 gdb, threads and SIG32
> 
> 
> Colin Walker wrote:
> > Hello
> > 
> > I posted this message a couple of weeks ago without a response.
> > 
> > I would really like to move on to mandrake 9.0 on my development 
> > machine but am unable to debug threaded applications, 
> > seemingly due to stripped libraries.
> > 
> > LM8.* works fine
> > 
> > Can anybody help.
> > 
> > Its all outlined below.
> > 
> > Colin
> > 
> > 
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Colin Walker 
> >>Sent: 10 October 2002 11:22
> >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >>Subject: LM9.0 gdb, threads and SIG32
> >>
> >>
> >>I am unable to debug threaded programs in LM9 using GDB or 
> >>kdevelop due
> >>to SIG32 errors.
> >>
> >>A quick search reveals that LM7.2 had this problem due to system
> >>libraries being stripped and that it was fixed in LM8.*.
> >>
> >>on LM9
> >>[cw@neal cw]$ file /lib/libpthread*
> >>/lib/libpthread-0.9.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386,
> >>version 1 (SYSV), stripped
> >>/lib/libpthread.so.0:   symbolic link to libpthread-0.9.so
> >>[cw@neal cw]$
> >>
> >>LM8.2 I have verified is not stripped.
> >>
> >>Is installing unstripped libraries the correct solution to 
> >>this problem
> >>or should I be linking to unstripped development libraries.
> >>
> >>What is involved in generating the required unstripped libraries
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Colin
> >>
> 
> I don't know what it is you are doing but I thought this was related:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@;linux-mandrake.com/msg78374.html
> 
> 
Thanks for that. A quick email to Gwenole came up with the answer

Get the glibc SRPM and look for EXCLUDE_FROM_STRIP=, add 
libpthread-0.9.so.

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Re: [expert] What is wrong with knotes?

2002-10-23 Thread Dr. Gianluca Faieta
Quoting Aleksey Naumov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I had similar problems with knotes starting with a fresh ~/.kde
Maybe, the problem exists in all version of knotes prior to KDE 3.0.4
For more info, see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48556

[quote]
> --- Additional Comment #1 From Michael Brade 2002-10-05 18:53 ---
> Yes, known bug and fixed already. The fix is in KDE 3.0.4 and KDE 3.1.
[/quote]

I think an upgrade to KDE 3.0.4 for Mandrake 9.0 would be useful (the
addressbook also has a bug; column width for list display aren't saved on disk)

Hope this helps,

Gianluca


> Thanks, Igor, replacing old .kde folder did it, "knotes" works again.
> Aleksey
> 
> > On Friday 18 October 2002 02:13 pm, Aleksey Naumov wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am having trouble with KDE's knotes application (yellow sticky notes).
> > > I used it alot for keeping miscellaneous information, but now I keep
> > > loosing data with it!
> > >
> > > Ok, I start from scratch: quit knotes, remove old files from
> > > ~/.kde/share/apps/knotes/notes, start knotes ("knotes" in console), then
> > > add a few notes. Each note appears in ~/.kde/share/apps/knotes/notes as
> > > files "KNote N" and ".KNote N_data" (N=1,2...). But when I quit knotes
> > > and start it again, the files are overwritten somehow: instead of the
> > > note itself all ".KNote N_data" files now contain some settings, similar
> > > to those in "KNote N" files, e.g.:
> > >
> > > richtext=false
> > > tabsize=4
> > > titlefont=Bitstream Charter,11,-1,5,74,0,0,0,0,0
> > > [General]
> > > version=2.2
> > > [WindowDisplay]
> > > desktop=0
> > > position=98,233
> > > state=32
> > >
> > > So, the notes are lost. What am I doing wrong? Anyone else had this
> > > happen? I have a fresh ML 9.0 install (but kept /home from 8.2) with KDE
> > > 3.0.3.
> >
> > It's probably caused by you keeping your old home directory.  KDE may not
> > like the fact that its config directory is the one from KDE2.  I would
> > suggest moving ~/.kde somewhere else, and letting it create a new one, and
> > then copy anything you need over there.






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