Re: [expert] Firewalled packets are being filtered out

[Christian Jul Jensen]

Thanks for your help Toshiro and John

On 18 Nov 2002, Toshiro wrote:

> > > > I've configured a webserver, which runs perfectly on it's own net. The
> > > > problem is that it's behind a firewall and everything that comes through
> > > > that firewall are being ignored by the server.
> > > >
> > > > Must be some kind of spoof-protection. Because the packets get trapped by
> > > > rp_filter.
> > > >
> > > > So I've disabled rp_filter, I've set all iptables rules to ACCEPT, and
> > > > I've tried lowering the security level with msec. Nothing changed. I've
> > > > used tcpdump to see what's going on, and I can see that packets coming
> > > > from a machine on the internal net, gets answers. But packets arriving
> > > > through the firewall arrives at the interface, but no answer is sent. So I
> > > > know for sure that the problem is at this machine.
> > >
> > > Have you configured NAT?
> >
> > No, this machine is not the firewall itself, only a http-server. It's
> > packets coming through another firewall that are being filtered out. In
> > that case NAT shouldn't be necessary since it's not doing any
> > gatewaying/routing. Or am I wrong here...?
>
> No, you're right, you don't have to do anything in the webserver, my question
> wasn't right :) what I wanted to ask you is whether the NAT in the firewall is
> configured OK.
>
> Also, your firewall should allow to pass all packets with a connection already
> established; for example, if your firewall were a Linux box with iptables you
> should have something like that:
>
>   iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

Well, I'm not administering the firewall, and since there are a number of
other webservers (older RH's) running behind, I think it has to be some
kind of security om this webserver.

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Re: [expert] Why is it so difficult to get a wireless card to workin linux????

[Michael Holt]

Sunday, jarmo mused:

> On Sunday 17 November 2002 19:30, Michael Holt wrote:
> > WHAT???  With that fact-filled email, I just don't know where to start!
> > Seriously though, you haven't listed anything about what kind of laptop
> 
> Man
> Don't blow your head off...

No, I don't really see that happening any time soon.  (??)

> If you'd read better you'd figure that this is not a laptop..
> Pse read again...

My bad, I think of wireless as a mobile solution - but my previous post 
still stands.  You offered no real details about your situation except to 
say that you wanted a fix for your problem.  Just naming a couple of 
components (orinoco silver / wavelan pci adapter) doesn't really tell 
much ;-).  

 
> As said with my orinoco silver card and wavelan pci adapter etc...
> 
> I can get it working...but MDK's installation does notNot big deal...eh?
> 
> Jarmo

I see a few people have already given some suggestions - so I'll leave it 
at that.

Have fun - Mike 

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Re: [expert] changing permissions fails quietly

[Christian Jul Jensen]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, bascule wrote:

> i just made a link in cron.daily so that slocate gets run each morning, noting
> the permissions on the daily msec link i tried to set teh same for the
> slocate link but i can't, any ideas

man chmod says:
  chmod never changes the permissions of symbolic links; the
   chmod system call cannot change their  permissions.   This
   is  not  a problem since the permissions of symbolic links
   are never used.  However, for each symbolic link listed on
   the  command  line,  chmod  changes the permissions of the
   pointed-to file.   In  contrast,  chmod  ignores  symbolic
   links encountered during recursive directory traversals.

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Re: [expert] cron / at

[Christian Jul Jensen]

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Sridhar wrote:

> I did not have anacron installed. I installed it from 9.0 disks. Now
> when I start anacron and check the status it tells it's dead.

It tells it's dead? What exactly happens?

Do you have a meaningful /etc/anacrontab ?

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[expert] Gamma correction/adjustment for monitor?

[David Guntner]

I'm currently using a monitor which is getting old.  As a result, it's 
doing the gradually-getting-darker-as-it-goes thing, and Iknow it's only 
going to be a matter of time before I'm going to need to replace it.  
However, I'm trying to hold that time at bay for as long as I can.  In 
Windows, I can bring up the properties for the monitor, go to the advanced 
tab, and for the display adaptor card, I can run the gamma level up, which 
brightens things up on the monitor.  This is good.

However, on the Mandrake 9.0 side, I don't find any similar control 
available to let me boost the gamma (one of my monitors died outright, so 
I'm using an A-B switch to share the monitor between the two computers), 
which means that my screen is quite a bit darker when running on the Linux 
side.  This is not so good. :-)

*Is* there a way to adjust the gamma output level in Mandrake?  If so, how?

Thanks in advance!

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[expert] Two different log out sequences

[Jack and Melissa McSwain]

Hello, I am running on 9.0 and I let kdm automatically log in the user "me" at 
boot time.  When I log out from this session I get a text box that says "End 
Session for user me"  with two buttons, Logout and cancel.

If I log out, then log back in, I get a different prompt when I hit logout:

This prompt has a little green dragon, again titled End Session for User Me,  
Then the statement What do you want to do next?

There are three options that have a circle next to them, that you click to 
select. The options are Login as different user, turn off computer, and 
restart computer.

I would like this option to restart computer on the automatic login, because 
if you logout and then choose reboot from the kdm greeter, it writes the 
selected boot option to lilo and reboots, bypassing lilo.

I am trying to figure out where the automatic login and the kdm login are 
different so I can change the logout part.  I am guessing it has something to 
do with the way kdm starts kde and the involved scripts, but poking around 
the scripts and config files I am not seeing where this happens.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Jack



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Re: [expert] Two different log out sequences

[Alan Shoemaker]

Jack and Melissa McSwain wrote:
> Hello, I am running on 9.0 and I let kdm automatically log
> in the user "me" at boot time.  When I log out from this
> session I get a text box that says "End Session for user
> me"  with two buttons, Logout and cancel.
>
> If I log out, then log back in, I get a different prompt
> when I hit logout:
>
> This prompt has a little green dragon, again titled End
> Session for User Me, Then the statement What do you want to
> do next?
>
> There are three options that have a circle next to them,
> that you click to select. The options are Login as
> different user, turn off computer, and restart computer.
>
> I would like this option to restart computer on the
> automatic login, because if you logout and then choose
> reboot from the kdm greeter, it writes the selected boot
> option to lilo and reboots, bypassing lilo.
>
> I am trying to figure out where the automatic login and the
> kdm login are different so I can change the logout part.  I
> am guessing it has something to do with the way kdm starts
> kde and the involved scripts, but poking around the scripts
> and config files I am not seeing where this happens.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jack

try this (i think it's what you want):

open the 'mandrake control center" and in 'boot' choose to 
disable autologin

then

open the 'kde control panel' and in 'system', 'login manager', 
open the 'convenience' tab and in 'administrator mode', 
enable the 'automatic login' feature. :)
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Re: [expert] Two different log out sequences

[Jack and Melissa McSwain]

On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:38 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> Jack and Melissa McSwain wrote:
> > I am trying to figure out where the automatic login and the
> > kdm login are different so I can change the logout part.  I
> > am guessing it has something to do with the way kdm starts
> > kde and the involved scripts, but poking around the scripts
> > and config files I am not seeing where this happens.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Jack
>
> try this (i think it's what you want):
>
> open the 'mandrake control center" and in 'boot' choose to
> disable autologin
>
> then
>
> open the 'kde control panel' and in 'system', 'login manager',
> open the 'convenience' tab and in 'administrator mode',
> enable the 'automatic login' feature. :)

Thank you very much, that did the trick. I was a little leary of lilo writing 
on the boot sector that often and too lazy to log back in and log out to 
restart.  :)

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Re: [expert] changing permissions fails quietly

[bascule]

hmm, i was misled by the fact that another link is shown as having mode 0755
[bascule@mycroft cron.daily]$ ls -l
total 5
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   37 Aug 10 18:10 logcheck*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   51 Aug 14 04:12 logrotate*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  402 Aug 27 14:39 makewhatis.cron*
lrwxr-xr-x1 root root   27 Oct 16 21:34 msec -> 
/usr/share/msec/security.sh*

i assumed that i could make the new link have the same permissions as the one 
above!
cheers

bascule

On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 8:22 am, Christian Jul Jensen wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, bascule wrote:
> > i just made a link in cron.daily so that slocate gets run each morning,
> > noting the permissions on the daily msec link i tried to set teh same for
> > the slocate link but i can't, any ideas
>
> man chmod says:
>   chmod never changes the permissions of symbolic links; the
>chmod system call cannot change their  permissions.   This
>is  not  a problem since the permissions of symbolic links
>are never used.  However, for each symbolic link listed on
>the  command  line,  chmod  changes the permissions of the
>pointed-to file.   In  contrast,  chmod  ignores  symbolic
>links encountered during recursive directory traversals.

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[expert] Rippers for Real Audio streams?

[Aristotle]

Anyone know how to save Real Audio streams to disk?



On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 16:33, Marek wrote:

Hi

Has anyone got RealOne to work on Mandrake Release 9 ? I think i made 
the error of not uninstalling Real 8 first. Which dir should it go into 
? It does not seem to link like the Real 8 rpm does.
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[expert] PCMCIA services on Dell Latitude LM P133?

[Barry Michels]

I thought the motherboard was screwed up, but when I reloaded Win98, my PCMCIA 
ethernet card worked.  It's got a Cirrus Logic CL-PD6730 PCI/PCMCIA bridge.  
I think this is the problem since the cards don't even power up.  I got the 
IO range that for that chip from Win98 Device list.  Any idea how to make it 
work?

Thanks,
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[expert] Reproducing supermount errors at will

[Alex Bennee]

I can now reliably break supermount by simply doing a I/O heavy copy of
files from a CD sub directory which when finished leaves the directory I
just copied accessible but the other disappeared.

If if any of the kernel hackers want extra debug info then feel free to
give me a shout. At the moment dmesg gives no hints.

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Re: [expert] RealOne

[Anthony Moulen]

On Monday 18 November 2002 03:18 pm, Miark wrote:
> Well I'll be.
>
> I'm downloading it now, but it keeps stalling. Did you try both the
> tarball and the bin file?
>
>   http://docs.real.com/docs/playerpatch/unix/rv9_libc6_i386_cs2.tgz
>   http://195.141.101.151/direct/r1p1_linux22_libc6_i386_a1.bin
>
> What's the difference between the two?
>
> Miark
The second one is the RealOne player with a Real 8 Codec.  The first one is 
the Real 9 Codec which should improve visual performance and make for better 
viewing.  

Anthony


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[expert] Xineramia extensions with kde

[Dalton Calford]

I have a fully working dual head system, but, KDE sees it as two different 
desktops.  
How do I tell KDE to use the system as a single desktop.

best regards

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Re: [expert] Rippers for Real Audio streams?

[J. Grant]

run the realplayer thu a proxy configured to only use http port 80, nab 
the url and download it with wget

JG

Aristotle wrote:
Anyone know how to save Real Audio streams to disk?

On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 16:33, Marek wrote:

Hi

Has anyone got RealOne to work on Mandrake Release 9 ? I think i made 
the error of not uninstalling Real 8 first. Which dir should it go into 
? It does not seem to link like the Real 8 rpm does.
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Re: [expert] Rippers for Real Audio streams?

[jipe]

On 19 Nov 2002 21:55:58 +1030
Aristotle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone know how to save Real Audio streams to disk?
> 

search vsound on rpmfind.net or elsewhere on the web.
it might do what you want.

bye
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[expert] mdkonline

[Marek]

Hi

I have set up mdkonline from the GUI to check for updates every night.
Does mdkonline update kernels as well. If yes is there an option to
disable the kernel updates.

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RE: [expert] mdkonline

[Franki]

how did you do that??

is there a way to do updates??

where did you find that??


even if it did kernels, which I doubt, it would install them along side your
current kernel, not an upgrade...

and if its automated, it very likely wouldn't be rebooting your box
anyway...

but if its run with urpmi like all the other mandrake update tools, then it
would apply all the urpmi tools..

look in /etc/urpmi for the files that determine what urpmi should upgrade,
install or leave alone..

rgds

Frank

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Subject: [expert] mdkonline


Hi

I have set up mdkonline from the GUI to check for updates every night.
Does mdkonline update kernels as well. If yes is there an option to
disable the kernel updates.

Marek






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Re: [expert] mdkonline

[Marek]

Franki wrote:

how did you do that??

is there a way to do updates??

where did you find that??


even if it did kernels, which I doubt, it would install them along side your
current kernel, not an upgrade...

and if its automated, it very likely wouldn't be rebooting your box
anyway...

but if its run with urpmi like all the other mandrake update tools, then it
would apply all the urpmi tools..

look in /etc/urpmi for the files that determine what urpmi should upgrade,
install or leave alone..

rgds

Frank

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Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 1:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] mdkonline


Hi

I have set up mdkonline from the GUI to check for updates every night.
Does mdkonline update kernels as well. If yes is there an option to
disable the kernel updates.

Marek









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Re: [expert] printing multiple photos

[Pierre Fortin]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:07:39 -0500 Jonathan Dlouhy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Is there a way to use GIMP or another editing program that will allow
> me, for example, to put two different pictures, like 4"x6" on the same
> page and print them that way? I hate to use the Windoze word, but there
> are numerous programs for 'doze that will do this easily. There must be
> a Linux equivalent.

I'm starting to look at different ways to script this kind of stuff; but
there are SO many ways in Linux...

- have you tried using oowriter?
- or writing a simple html page:
  Side-by-side:
   
  One-above-the-other:
   
- or scripting; here's a sequence you could script:
   pngtopnm 1.png > 1.pnm
   pngtopnm 2.png > 2.pnm
   pnmcat -lr 1.pnm 2.pnm | pnmtops | gv -  # for left-right
   pnmcat -tb 1.pnm 2.pnm | pnmtops | gv -  # for top-bottom

Of course, the script example would require a whitespace pnm file for each
direction if you don't have whitespace around your images...  "gv -" lets
you view the results; replace with "lpr" to print...

I'm sure there are many more ways that I haven't found yet; but it's fun
exploring...  for example, use command completion to find some possible
utilities; at a command prompt, type the start of these commands and hit
the TAB key:
$ png
$ pnm
$ ps
and whatever else you find interesting; for example, pnmtotiff might lead
you to:
$ tiff2ps

The point is to explore...  :^)

HTH,
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RE: [expert] mdkonline

[Franki]

thats kinda funny, I've noticed that icon before, always assumed it was a
line to mandrakes online store or one of their other sites...

I'm setting it up now..

thanks.

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Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 1:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] mdkonline


Franki wrote:
> how did you do that??
>
> is there a way to do updates??
>
> where did you find that??
>
>
> even if it did kernels, which I doubt, it would install them along side
your
> current kernel, not an upgrade...
>
> and if its automated, it very likely wouldn't be rebooting your box
> anyway...
>
> but if its run with urpmi like all the other mandrake update tools, then
it
> would apply all the urpmi tools..
>
> look in /etc/urpmi for the files that determine what urpmi should upgrade,
> install or leave alone..
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marek
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 1:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] mdkonline
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have set up mdkonline from the GUI to check for updates every night.
> Does mdkonline update kernels as well. If yes is there an option to
> disable the kernel updates.
>
> Marek
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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[expert] WLAN -Pism2 Chipset-Mandrake9-config question.

[Bharath Sankaranarayan]

Hello all:

I have installed Mandrake9 on a IBM Thinkpad TP23 ( config: Windows XP
on had 22GB, Mandrake 22GB, Lucent Winmodem(detected but informed that I
need a third party driver), Hitachi DVD-ROM ultrabay, Intel E100 builtin
card,DWL-650 wireless card based on Prism2 chipset on pcmcia) with Grub
as my boot loader.

This machine does not have a built in wireless card.

I installed a workstation with a few additions to the standard install
and 
did the update towards the end of the installation.
Now I would like to have my DWL-650 wireless card working. The machine
has a built in e100 and it was properly detected.

I am new to Mandrake but very familiar to RedHat. I was very happy to
note that my card was detected (wlan_cs) but it was the wrong type.

So I went to the folder called /3rdparty and found that there were
precompiled versions of prism2_cs driver which is what my card uses.
I modified the /etc/pcmcia/config file to change the driver for the
Intersil Prisim II to read prism2_cs instead of wlan_cs. Also I added on
my /etc/modules.conf alias wlan0 prism2_cs
I rebooted and my card beeped 2times like before and then I got a steady
green light
Upon lsmod I found that prism2_cs was loaded and so was p80211 and ds
and yenta_socket.

Also upon startup the pcmcia notified that it was going to start
./network wlan0 ( this prompted me to add the alias mentioned before, so
I did have to reboot before to make this happen).

Now when I type iwconfig wlan0 I get no wireless information.

My access point is a DL-1000AP with 128 WEP encryption enabled.
I read the wlan-ng readme and it looks like 
a) this driver reads a different set of config files. If so how can I
find out what version of the driver I have ( came with mandrake 9).
b) Has anyone run into this scenario ? If so could you kindly post what
your experiences are.

I think I am very close to get it working out of the box but missing
some important config files. Maybe they are there in my box but I am
just not sure where mandrake puts the files. Also all the files are .gz
but when I do a insmod to insert a module it sees to read the gz file
and loads it ( kind of different from Red Hat).

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Re: [expert] cron / at

[Sridhar]

I am using anacron straight out of an install from disk and have not 
configured anacron. anacrontab seems to contain default values. Should I 
do anything in anacrontab?

-Sridhar


Christian Jul Jensen wrote:
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Sridhar wrote:



I did not have anacron installed. I installed it from 9.0 disks. Now
when I start anacron and check the status it tells it's dead.



It tells it's dead? What exactly happens?

Do you have a meaningful /etc/anacrontab ?

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Re: [expert] printing multiple photos

[Larry Sword]

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|Is there a way to use GIMP or another editing program that will allow 
me, for
|example, to put two different pictures, like 4"x6" on the same page and 
print
|them that way? I hate to use the Windoze word, but there are numerous
|programs for 'doze that will do this easily. There must be a Linux
|equivalent.
|
|Thanks,

Sure, gimp is perfect for such things.
Open up a "new" file, set it to the size you want and then open, copy 
and past the the photos you want. You can also open "layers" and 
manipulate the photos on it's own layer. Many ways to use gimp. Got to 
xtns, web browser and go and download the gimp manuals.

Larry
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Re: [expert] network goes dead

[Jack Coates]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 10:29, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
> dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
> Shorewall firewall system.
> 

Nope, just you :-) It's probably not shorewall, as shorewall's policy
doesn't change on the fly -- if it's preventing you from doing
something, it will always prevent you from doing that thing. You could
always verify that with a quick /sbin/service shorewall stop.

Intermittent network has a lot of possibilities, and the best way to
troubleshoot is to walk up the OSI stack -- first check the physical
(very important with wireless, so look at signal strength and
noise-to-signal ratio), then look for framing errors in ifconfig's
output, then look at higher level functions. You might also look through
syslog for error messages from your NIC driver.

> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[expert] Damn usb @#!!

[Praedor Tempus]

I picked up a linksys wusb11 v2.6 wlan adaptor and downloaded and built the 
atmel driver for it.  I don't know if it works because I cannot get the damn 
usb modules to load.  

I built a 2.4.19 mdk kernel WITH usb support and all the drivers (usb-uhci, 
uhci, and usb-ohci) as modules.  Not a one of them will load.  All I get when 
I try is [Failed].  

Doing a usb restart produces the ever annoying:

Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid irq or io parameters.  
init_module: no such device

yadda yadda.  There IS such a device.  It is frickin plugged into the usb 
port.  The modules built just fine.  So why wont the kernel load its own 
frickin modules?  They system refuses to see the usb port except that I have 
a working usb printer hooked up.

Anyone have any suggestions?  Or a life preserver?  
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[expert] network goes dead

[Mark Weaver]

Hi List,

has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
Shorewall firewall system.

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Re: [expert] network goes dead

[Pierre Fortin]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500 Mark Weaver
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
> dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
> Shorewall firewall system.
> 
> Mark

Any chance you're experiencing the ssh "pause"...  I use ssh extensively
and experience pauses ONLY when modem connected (never when LAN connected)
to the server.  It doesn't affect all sessions; I can continue to work on
another session while one or more are stalled...  I rarely connect between
2 modem connected machines; but it's on my list to watch for that possible
scenario...

Pierre


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Re: [expert] network goes dead

[Jack and Melissa McSwain]

On Tuesday 19 November 2002 12:29 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes
> dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to
> Shorewall firewall system.
>
> Mark
 
It has happened to me recently, but it looked like it was directly related to 
hack attempts. IFDOWN and IFUP would not restore ETH0 , only reboot would fix 
it. Sometimes they managed to lock the whole system up. After re-configuring 
shorewall, none of thier attempts have bothered the machine. 

BTW has anyone noticed a dramatic increase in hack attempts in the last 2 to 3 
weeks? Port scans show all the ports are stealth, and I have no servers 
running or installed, but they still manage to find the box. Win98 with 
norton personal firewall seems to be a little more stealth. Also Shorewall is 
set to drop instead of reject packets.

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Re: [expert] Damn usb @#!!

[Lars Ole Christoffersen]

Hi
I have had problems with modules to the USB as well. During this I came
across the following from Mandrake:
Some motherborads may have problems with the APIC (Advanced Programmable
Interrupt Controller) Try to start Linux with the noapic argument or try
to disable apic in your BIOS.
Does it hapen during start. Have you tried to modprobe the modules onece
the Linux is up and running?

tir, 2002-11-19 kl. 20:34 skrev Praedor Tempus:
> I picked up a linksys wusb11 v2.6 wlan adaptor and downloaded and built the 
> atmel driver for it.  I don't know if it works because I cannot get the damn 
> usb modules to load.  
> 
> I built a 2.4.19 mdk kernel WITH usb support and all the drivers (usb-uhci, 
> uhci, and usb-ohci) as modules.  Not a one of them will load.  All I get when 
> I try is [Failed].  
> 
> Doing a usb restart produces the ever annoying:
> 
> Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
> invalid irq or io parameters.  
> init_module: no such device
> 
> yadda yadda.  There IS such a device.  It is frickin plugged into the usb 
> port.  The modules built just fine.  So why wont the kernel load its own 
> frickin modules?  They system refuses to see the usb port except that I have 
> a working usb printer hooked up.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions?  Or a life preserver?  
-- 
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[expert] Select wich partition upgrade qhen installing to MDK 9.0]

[ddc_prueba]

I'm fordwarding this message again to the list because I did not get any
answer I wanted to give it another try to see if anyone can help me...

I found something more: I removed (phisically) the hardisk containing
the root partition of the raid mdk so the installation program could not
access to it by no mean and would only see the non-raid mdk OS, but it
said that it cannot find a root partition to upgrade, even thought it
boots correctly (full X+kde/gnome) with the non-raid mdk. !

Anything before going mad and formating all the drives??? Thanx.


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provided Mandrake patch on the errata page does not suit me), I have
made a complete copy of the system in other spare partitions but without
raid and changed fstab and deleted raidtab to make it bootable and
workable (it is 100% functional by now).

The problem is that when I use mandrake installation CD's and select
'upgrade', it assumes the OS partition to upgrade is the one with raid
instead of the 'new' one. How can I force the system to choose the other
OS or at least ask me before?

Any hint will be wellcomed. Thanx in advance.


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Re: [expert] network goes dead

[Mark Weaver]

Jack Coates wrote:

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 10:29, Mark Weaver wrote:


Hi List,

has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes 
dead periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to 
Shorewall firewall system.



Nope, just you :-) It's probably not shorewall, as shorewall's policy
doesn't change on the fly -- if it's preventing you from doing
something, it will always prevent you from doing that thing. You could
always verify that with a quick /sbin/service shorewall stop.

Intermittent network has a lot of possibilities, and the best way to
troubleshoot is to walk up the OSI stack -- first check the physical
(very important with wireless, so look at signal strength and
noise-to-signal ratio), then look for framing errors in ifconfig's
output, then look at higher level functions. You might also look through
syslog for error messages from your NIC driver.



Hi Jack,

Good ideas...thanks. I'll check into that.

Mark




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Re: [expert] printing multiple photos

[Brian Schroeder]

As Pierre said, "there are SO many ways in Linux...".  So often,
when I want to do something, the problem is deciding which tool
to use!
Since you like Word for this, I too would have suggested oowriter.
But xfig is something else that could be well worth a try.  It is
on the Mandrake CDs, but not generally installed by default.  It
will also give you virtually unlimited positioning and scaling
options.

Brian.


From: Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake Expert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [expert] printing multiple photos
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:19:46 -0500

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:07:39 -0500 Jonathan Dlouhy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Is there a way to use GIMP or another editing program that will allow
> me, for example, to put two different pictures, like 4"x6" on the same
> page and print them that way? I hate to use the Windoze word, but there
> are numerous programs for 'doze that will do this easily. There must be
> a Linux equivalent.

I'm starting to look at different ways to script this kind of stuff; but
there are SO many ways in Linux...

- have you tried using oowriter?
- or writing a simple html page:
  Side-by-side:
   
  One-above-the-other:
   
- or scripting; here's a sequence you could script:
   pngtopnm 1.png > 1.pnm
   pngtopnm 2.png > 2.pnm
   pnmcat -lr 1.pnm 2.pnm | pnmtops | gv -  # for left-right
   pnmcat -tb 1.pnm 2.pnm | pnmtops | gv -  # for top-bottom

Of course, the script example would require a whitespace pnm file for each
direction if you don't have whitespace around your images...  "gv -" lets
you view the results; replace with "lpr" to print...

I'm sure there are many more ways that I haven't found yet; but it's fun
exploring...  for example, use command completion to find some possible
utilities; at a command prompt, type the start of these commands and hit
the TAB key:
$ png
$ pnm
$ ps
and whatever else you find interesting; for example, pnmtotiff might lead
you to:
$ tiff2ps

The point is to explore...  :^)

HTH,
Pierre

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Re: [expert] network goes dead

[Brian Schroeder]

I have had this sort of problem in the past, with mdk7.2 up to
8.2.   There was never anything I could find to explain what was
going on.  It didn't seem to be related to any firewall, although
I have never used shorewall. For me, the conditions that caused
it were:   33k modem connection;  heavy local CPU load.

With a faster modem connection, it never happened.  And, since
I changed ISP, I always get a faster connection, so it's not a
problem any more.

Brian.



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To: Expert List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [expert] network goes dead
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:29:43 -0500

Hi List,

has anyone else noticed the network connectivity in Mandrake 9.0 goes dead 
periodically? It's very annoying and it seems to be linked to Shorewall 
firewall system.

Mark


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[expert] Directions on making a mail list.

[Gonzalo Avaria]

Hi experts, i need some directions to where to go. I
need to make a mailing list for a symposium that we
are doing here in Chile, and we need to have a mailing
list. What do i have to do to make one???
Well, i'll be waiting for your answers. See ya.


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Re: [expert] LM 9.0 - Install Fails - SCSI Disks

[Brian Schroeder]

Thanks, I hadn't thought of that.  Although I have already found
that it refuses to boot off of CD1, and I have to start with CD2
to get anywhere at all.

Brian.



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Subject: Re: [expert] LM 9.0 - Install Fails - SCSI Disks
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:11:32 -0500

Brian,

Boot off of Disk Two (I Purchased my Set from Mandrake direct), then load 
each
of the customized Boot Kernels until one works.

I'm not sure WHY we have to jump through hurdles to get the Install to 
work.

I'm still picking up bits off of the Floor.  Mozilla doesn't install 
directly.
I have problems with rpmdrake recognizing the cdrom 

It really shouldn't be this difficult folks.


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Re: [expert] printing multiple photos

[kwan]

> On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:07:39 -0500 Jonathan Dlouhy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to use GIMP or another editing program that will allow
> > me, for example, to put two different pictures, like 4"x6" on the same
> > page and print them that way? I hate to use the Windoze word, but there
> > are numerous programs for 'doze that will do this easily. There must be
> > a Linux equivalent.

There's a program called 'montage' that's part of the ImageMagick suite.
You can use it to create photo montages as thumbnails or for printing. 



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[expert] Mount problem on XFS partition

[Stefano Pogliani]

I just tried today to create an XFS partition on a new hard drive. It 
was the first time I was playing with Journalized partitions, so I may 
have done something strange.

I used diskdrake and created an XFS partition. I formatted it and then I 
rebooted (as I was asked to do).

On rebooting I noticed an error message when trying to mount the newly 
created partition. I did not make that much attention.

Then when issuing the "df -Tk" command (to just see my brand new 
first-time XFS partition listed) I did not see it. Well, I thought, 
maybe there is something I am missing so I verified in /etc/fstab 
and the partition is listed correctly there.

I can copy files in this partition (mount point is /mnt/backup) and all 
went well with the copy (and subsequent "ls" command).

So, I decided to MOUNT that partition to verify if mounting would make 
the partition visible by the "df -Tk" command and, surprise, I saw 
the same error message I saw during boot:

   [root@scarlet root]# mount /mnt/backup/
   mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,
  or too many mounted file systems

(/dev/hd5 is where the /mnt/backup XFS partition is created).

Any idea of what I did wrong?
This was an experiment: I wanted to make sure I was able to do something 
with Journalized partitions before moving to MDK 9.0 where I am planning 
to use journalized partitions everywhere.

Thanks a lot for any hint.

Best regards
/stefano


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Re: [expert] Directions on making a mail list.

[David Guntner]

Gonzalo Avaria grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> Hi experts, i need some directions to where to go. I
> need to make a mailing list for a symposium that we
> are doing here in Chile, and we need to have a mailing
> list. What do i have to do to make one???
> Well, i'll be waiting for your answers. See ya.

Easy, one-word answer:  Mailman.

You should have a rpm file for it on one of your Mandrake CDs.

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[expert] xinitrc problem

[Matthew Van Horn]

Posted to newbie, but got no response.

Since I upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0, I am having problems using my old
(8.1) ~/.xinitrc

If  the file even exists, then startx will not work. I don't know what
the cause is, can someone point me in the right direction?

The contents of my old .xinitrc are:
#!/bin/bash
export LANG=en_US
export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP
export LC_MESSAGES=en_US
export XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2"
kinput2 -wnn -ccdef /home/mattv/myccdef &
imwheel
startkde


Also, if there is somewhere better for me to to do this stuff, let me
know. I am just trying to get rudimentary Japanese input and display
support.

Thanks,
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[expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[David Guntner]

I'm using a web-based application which is trying to spawn a screen session 
to allow control of something which usually requires that it be running in 
a shell window.  This application spawns the "screen" program to create a 
terminal environment, and when you click on the next thing that you want to 
configure in the web page, it spawns a "screen -r" to reconnect to that 
session, make the changes, and detach again.

Unfortunately, when I try to click various things, I keep seeing the output 
saying "please set a terminal type".  This, of course, means that the whole 
thing is falling through at the "screen" level.

So the big question is:  Is there a way to tell screen to not *care* about 
your terminal type, but to just go ahead and run as though it were in a 
dumb terminal?  Any information/ideas/etc would be appreciated.

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RE: [expert] WLAN -Pism2 Chipset-Mandrake9-config question.

[Bharath Sankaranarayan]

Here is a quick update on the Prism 2 chipset with mandrake 9.0
Thanks to Jerry to point me to the prism2_utils package.
The Wireless card is now up and running with 128 bit WEP out of the box
(sort of). 
I installed the rpm and modified the wlan-ng.opts file under /etc/pcmcia
to enable wep and put my 128 bit key in key0.
I had to create ifcfg-wlan0 file under /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ 
with the usual networking parameters 
Started wlan service and restarted the pcmcia service bingo got a ip
from the Access point.
Able to use my wireless card.


Thanks for all your help.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jerry A!
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] WLAN -Pism2 Chipset-Mandrake9-config question.

: On 2002-11-19 Bharath Sankaranarayan said:
:
: card,DWL-650 wireless card based on Prism2 chipset on pcmcia) with
Grub
: 
: I installed a workstation with a few additions to the standard install
: and did the update towards the end of the installation.  Now I would
: like to have my DWL-650 wireless card working. The machine has a built
: in e100 and it was properly detected.

wvlan_cs should be a viable driver for the DWL-650.  Actually, so should
orinoco_cs and prism2_cs.

I'm cc'ing this to cooker b/c I'd like to start a discussion about
updating /etc/pcmcia/config or creating a /etc/pcmcia/orinoco.conf.
While the wvlan_cs driver works, I thought that it was deprecated in
favor of orinoco_cs (which is actively supported) for Hermes-based
cards.

: So I went to the folder called /3rdparty and found that there were
: precompiled versions of prism2_cs driver which is what my card uses.
I
: modified the /etc/pcmcia/config file to change the driver for the
: Intersil Prisim II to read prism2_cs instead of wlan_cs. Also I added
on
: my /etc/modules.conf alias wlan0 prism2_cs I rebooted and my card
beeped
: 2times like before and then I got a steady green light Upon lsmod I
: found that prism2_cs was loaded and so was p80211 and ds and
: yenta_socket.

The prism2_cs driver doesn't implement all the kernel wireless
extensions.  Thus you will not be able to use iwconfig(1) for
configuration.  Please grab the prism2-utils package from contrib.  The
prism2_* drivers require wlan-ctl(1) for configuration.

Another solution might be checking out the prism2 hostap driver at
.  It supports the prism2_cs stuff, as well
as providing hostap mode.  Oh, and it does have the current wireless
extensions so you can use iwconfig(1).

Who's ear could a I put a bug into for evaluating this driver for
kernel-2.4.19-20mdk?

Hope you find this helpful.  And for everyone on the cooker list, sorry
for the cross-post but this seems like a good way to kill two birds
with one stone.

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Re: [expert] Mount problem on XFS partition

[kwan]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Stefano Pogliani wrote:

> I just tried today to create an XFS partition on a new hard drive. It 
> was the first time I was playing with Journalized partitions, so I may 
> have done something strange.
> 
> I used diskdrake and created an XFS partition. I formatted it and then I 
> rebooted (as I was asked to do).
> 
> On rebooting I noticed an error message when trying to mount the newly 
> created partition. I did not make that much attention.
> 
> Then when issuing the "df -Tk" command (to just see my brand new 
> first-time XFS partition listed) I did not see it. Well, I thought, 
> maybe there is something I am missing so I verified in /etc/fstab 
> and the partition is listed correctly there.
> 
> I can copy files in this partition (mount point is /mnt/backup) and all 
> went well with the copy (and subsequent "ls" command).

You're not actually copying to the xfs filesystem, only to the directory
/mnt/backup.
> 
> So, I decided to MOUNT that partition to verify if mounting would make 
> the partition visible by the "df -Tk" command and, surprise, I saw 
> the same error message I saw during boot:
> 
> [root@scarlet root]# mount /mnt/backup/
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,
>or too many mounted file systems
> 

What does your /etc/fstab show?

> (/dev/hd5 is where the /mnt/backup XFS partition is created).
> 
> Any idea of what I did wrong?
> This was an experiment: I wanted to make sure I was able to do something 
> with Journalized partitions before moving to MDK 9.0 where I am planning 
> to use journalized partitions everywhere.
> 
> Thanks a lot for any hint.

It could be a few things:
  The disk is formatted but no filesystem is created. I've not played
  much with XFS, but on most other filesystems the formatting and
  creation of the actual filesystem are separate steps.

  Your /etc/fstab has an incorrect entry for the mount.

  Your kernel does not support XFS or the module is not loaded. This
  would be unusual unless you've modified your kernel.





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[expert] automount lmontel

[Brian Schroeder]

I am getting numerous messages (in /var/log/messages) from
automount, trying to mount /home/lmontel.  How can I find
where this is coming from and stop it?

automount[1163]: attempting to mount entry /home/lmontel
automount[1975]: >> mount: special device /local_home/lmontel does not exist

(Note:  the automount map has the entry "* localhost:/local_home/&"
to catch anything not explicitly mentioned earlier)

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Re: [expert] xinitrc problem

[kwan]

On 20 Nov 2002, Matthew Van Horn wrote:

> Posted to newbie, but got no response.
> 
> Since I upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0, I am having problems using my old
> (8.1) ~/.xinitrc
> 
> If  the file even exists, then startx will not work. I don't know what
> the cause is, can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> The contents of my old .xinitrc are:
> #!/bin/bash
> export LANG=en_US
> export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP
> export LC_MESSAGES=en_US
> export XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2"
> kinput2 -wnn -ccdef /home/mattv/myccdef &
> imwheel
> startkde


Not sure exactly, but have you tried commenting out the entries in turn
until you find the one that's causing the problem? You can also try
redirecting the logs to a file then seeing if anything unusual shows up.
I.e., add the line:
  exec 2>"/tmp/errorlog" 

right after the #!/bin/sh line.

When you say if the file even exists it fails, do you mean that even an
empty script containing only #!/bin/sh causes a problem?

You can also try logging the startx errors with:
  startx 2>/tmp/startx.error

then post or look through the error file for more info.
> 
> 
> Also, if there is somewhere better for me to to do this stuff, let me
> know. I am just trying to get rudimentary Japanese input and display
> support.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matthew Van Horn
> 
> 



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Re: [expert] automount lmontel

[Bryan Whitehead]

Brian Schroeder wrote:

I am getting numerous messages (in /var/log/messages) from
automount, trying to mount /home/lmontel.  How can I find
where this is coming from and stop it?

automount[1163]: attempting to mount entry /home/lmontel
automount[1975]: >> mount: special device /local_home/lmontel does not 
exist

(Note:  the automount map has the entry "* localhost:/local_home/&"
to catch anything not explicitly mentioned earlier)

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If you running KDM with the little penguin faces it will look in every 
user home directory for what "face" it should use. That will cause 
automount to mount every user home directory on your machine.

If user lmontel does not exist on your machine, then delete the account.

You could also just make a directory in /local_home called lmontel :)


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Re: [expert] automount lmontel

[Tommy Wareing]

Given that Laurent Montel is one of the Mandrake
development team, and his name is attached to many
of the RPMs (particularly kdegraphics), I think it's
actually a left-over configuration option.

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> Brian Schroeder wrote:
> > I am getting numerous messages (in /var/log/messages) from
> > automount, trying to mount /home/lmontel.  How can I find
> > where this is coming from and stop it?
> >
> > automount[1163]: attempting to mount entry /home/lmontel
> > automount[1975]: >> mount: special device /local_home/lmontel does not
> > exist
> >
> > (Note:  the automount map has the entry "* localhost:/local_home/&"
> > to catch anything not explicitly mentioned earlier)
> >
> > Brian.
> >
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> If you running KDM with the little penguin faces it will look in every
> user home directory for what "face" it should use. That will cause
> automount to mount every user home directory on your machine.
>
> If user lmontel does not exist on your machine, then delete the account.
>
> You could also just make a directory in /local_home called lmontel :)
>
>
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Re: [expert] xinitrc problem

[H. Narfi Stefansson]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> On 20 Nov 2002, Matthew Van Horn wrote:
> 
> > Posted to newbie, but got no response.
> > 
> > Since I upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0, I am having problems using my old
> > (8.1) ~/.xinitrc
> > 
> > If  the file even exists, then startx will not work. I don't know what
> > the cause is, can someone point me in the right direction?
> > 
> > The contents of my old .xinitrc are:
> > #!/bin/bash
> > export LANG=en_US
> > export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP
> > export LC_MESSAGES=en_US
> > export XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2"
> > kinput2 -wnn -ccdef /home/mattv/myccdef &
> > imwheel
> > startkde
> 

In addition to what kwan said, I would like to mention that kinput2 is started
automatically in 9.0. I would venture to guess that in your case it may be
started twice.
I have my locale information in ~/.i18n and that's it -- kinput2 is started
automatically and that way I achieve the same as your .xinitrc, except for 2
things: 
1) You start imwheel. I've never used it so I can't help you there, I don't even
know if you even need it anymore.
2) You let kinput2 read your personal ccdef file.

If kinput2 is started automatically by the system you can of course not provide
command line parameters to it. However, kinput2 also reads the Xresources, so
you would have to give the ccdef information that way. 

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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 18:15, David Guntner wrote: 
> I'm using a web-based application which is trying to spawn a screen session 
> to allow control of something which usually requires that it be running in 
> a shell window.  This application spawns the "screen" program to create a 
> terminal environment, and when you click on the next thing that you want to 
> configure in the web page, it spawns a "screen -r" to reconnect to that 
> session, make the changes, and detach again.
> 
> Unfortunately, when I try to click various things, I keep seeing the output 
> saying "please set a terminal type".  This, of course, means that the whole 
> thing is falling through at the "screen" level.
> 
> So the big question is:  Is there a way to tell screen to not *care* about 
> your terminal type, but to just go ahead and run as though it were in a 
> dumb terminal?  Any information/ideas/etc would be appreciated.
> 
>--Dave

Screen checks the TERM variable in the environment when it is started. 
The TERM variable is supposed to correctly describe the terminal you are
using.  What is your TERM set to?

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Re: [expert] mdkonline

[Ron Stodden]

Marek wrote:

I have set up mdkonline from the GUI to check for updates every night.
Does mdkonline update kernels as well. If yes is there an option to
disable the kernel updates.


Historically, updates has been used to do a kernel update.   IIRC, 
afterwards, the new kernel is current for lilo with the old set up as an 
alternate.

Of course a reboot is required, but updates gives you no hint of that!

Mandrake updates gives you an install check option on each item.

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Re: [expert] GUI Crashing all the time in 9.0

[.]

I can give this a try.  May I ask why I'm giving this a try?

thanks,

KevinO wrote:

Are you booting with the boot-time kernel parameters
"mem=nopentium" and/or "noapic" ?

These can be put into an append line in lilo.conf also.

Here is a snippit from a lilo.conf file showing the append line near the bottom :
--snip--
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux-smp
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
ignore-table
image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp
label=linux-smp
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi mem=nopentium noapic"
read-only
---snip

You will have to (re)run lilo in order to commit the changes to disk.

KevinO

. wrote:


   Well, I do have some new parts installed in the system, but I'm
pretty sure this was happening before I installed the new hardware.  I
upgraded the motherboard and CPU to an AMD XP 1600.

 memtest is reporting errors on tests 5 and 8, which the docs say
happen often with AMD XP CPU's and some cheap memory chips.  I have a
PNY pc133 256MB chip and a Kingston pc133 256MB chip.  I would not
consider either of these "cheap" memory, and the problem exists with
both chips by themselves, as well as together.  I suppose I could try to
find a different RAM chip, in case they are both bad (which I doubt).

 I have several IDE devices, so I tried unplugging all unnecessary
devices for getting to memtest, but the problem still existed.  I'm
building a new system, so I grabbed the power supply out of it (which is
bigger), and plugged it up, but that didn't fix the problem either.

 I'm going to see if there's a bios upgrade for my motherboard, but
after that I don't know what to try.  It seems like it's either the CPU
or the  motherboard ... neither of which I can test individually.

Cory

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:



On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 09:37 -0600, . wrote:



 Has anyone else had a problem with their machine dropping  back
from gui to console after a period of uptime?  I have a computer that
I run at init level 5 and use as my main home PC.  However, I also
have it running several things out of cron, and performing server
type functions like samba and cups.  It's an AMD XP 1400 with 512MB
of RAM, so I don't feel I'm asking too much from the system.

 Periodically, I'll come up to the keyboard and monitor and it will
be at a console login prompt.  After a series of stopping and
starting xfs and dm, and running "init 3" followed by "init 5" seems
to get me back to a gui login.  Then I can log back in and continue
on.  The problem is, I have things running out of xterm windows and I
keep loosing my work when this happens.

 I'm going to make sure I'm patched to the latest rpms, but I
thought I'd post to this group to see if anyone else had seen this
and/or knew what the problem was.




Sounds like a hardware prob to me. Install memtest and reboot to the
memtest boot option and run it over night.

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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[David Guntner]

Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 18:15, David Guntner wrote: 
> > 
> > So the big question is:  Is there a way to tell screen to not *care* about 
> > your terminal type, but to just go ahead and run as though it were in a 
> > dumb terminal?  Any information/ideas/etc would be appreciated.
> 
> Screen checks the TERM variable in the environment when it is started. 
> The TERM variable is supposed to correctly describe the terminal you are
> using.  What is your TERM set to?

Well, the TERM value that *I'm* using doesn't come in to play, in this 
case. :-)  I'm using a PHP web application which uses expect to spawn 
screen and do its thing.  So it's the apache user that's executing this 
command from within the web server.  There's no TERM set for that, nor 
should there be (as far as I know).  Is there a setting/command-line 
switch/something else that can be used to tell screen to disregard TERM (or 
the lack thereof?)

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[expert] Kernel error

[Dave Seff]

I had a user's machine (Mdk 8.2) suddenly freeze up. The cpu was at 100%
(kernel, not user), and he was kicked back out to the logic screen. 

I then found this in /var/adm/messages. 

Nov 19 16:15:39 advisen13 kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation
failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
Nov 19 16:15:39 advisen13 kernel: VM: killing process X


Does anybody here know what this means??

Thank

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[expert] make an rpm list on disk

[Matthew O. Persico]

I am transplanting my cdrom, video card and hard disk from a dual CPU PII 266 box to a 
single CPU PIV 1.7GHz box.

I am betting that I can simply choose the non-smp kernel when I boot up to get me 
going.

If I lose the bet, I am going to have to re-install.

I thought there was a way to put the list of RPMs on a disk so that when you 
re-install, you don't have to slog through all the menus to chose what you want. Does 
anyone know the command to make the file and how to invoke it during the install?

Much obliged.

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Re: [expert] USB Storage Device -> /dev/sd?? mappings

[Theo Brinkman]

Well, its /dev/scsi/host1/... because the laptop has a cd burner, but no 
nothing extra in there either.  Checked that out right away when I saw 
the links.

   - Theo

bascule wrote:

well i can't say i know what you should do next, there's definitely nothing 
extra in /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/ ? (was wondering if it was just a case of 
missing links?)

bascule

On Sunday 17 Nov 2002 7:35 am, Theo Brinkman wrote:
 

I mount the filesystem on the card as /dev/sda1.  /dev/sda2, etc do not
exist, so it seems to be treating the CF card slot as /dev/sda, and the
partitions on the card are numbered.
Trying to mount /dev/sda2 - /dev/sda4 or /dev/sdb1 - /dev/sdd1 results
in the message "mount: special device /dev/sda# does not exist, which
makes sense because they don't exist in /dev.

Running 'fdisk /dev/sda' with a 64M CF card, and a 128M SmartMedia card
just shows the CF card.  Here's the partition table as shown:
- - - - -
Disk /dev/sda: 8 heads, 32 sectors, 490 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 256 * 512 bytes

DeviceBootStartEndBlocksIdSystem
/dev/sda1*  1   48962576  6FAT16
- - - - -

It certainly *looks* like it will be /dev/sd[abcd]1 to get to the other
card slots.

If anybody thinks it might help, I can boot into Win2K and check what
information it reports about the hardware.

   



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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about termtype?

[John McQuillen]

On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 12:31, David Guntner wrote:

> Well, the TERM value that *I'm* using doesn't come in to play, in this 
> case. :-)  I'm using a PHP web application which uses expect to spawn 
> screen and do its thing.  So it's the apache user that's executing this 
> command from within the web server.  There's no TERM set for that, nor 
> should there be (as far as I know).  Is there a setting/command-line 
> switch/something else that can be used to tell screen to disregard TERM (or 
> the lack thereof?)
> 
Can't you just include ?TERM=xterm in your link to the application?

Regards,

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Re: [expert] Select wich partition upgrade qhen installing to MDK9.0]

[Joseph Braddock]

If you are using RAID 5, then removing a single drive will not keep the
RAID from running (the RAID just assumes the drive failed).  If you are
trying to install to the non-raid drive, you might try removing the
cable from your raid controller, so only the non-raid drive is detected.

Joeb


On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 16:16, ddc_prueba wrote:
> I'm fordwarding this message again to the list because I did not get any
> answer I wanted to give it another try to see if anyone can help me...
> 
> I found something more: I removed (phisically) the hardisk containing
> the root partition of the raid mdk so the installation program could not
> access to it by no mean and would only see the non-raid mdk OS, but it
> said that it cannot find a root partition to upgrade, even thought it
> boots correctly (full X+kde/gnome) with the non-raid mdk. !
> 
> Anything before going mad and formating all the drives??? Thanx.
> 
> 
> __
> 
> From: ddc_prueba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] Select wich partition upgrade qhen installing to MDK 9.0
> Date: 17 Nov 2002 17:23:23 +0100
> 
> As I'm having torubles to update a MDK 8.2 to 9.0 because of raid 0 (the
> provided Mandrake patch on the errata page does not suit me), I have
> made a complete copy of the system in other spare partitions but without
> raid and changed fstab and deleted raidtab to make it bootable and
> workable (it is 100% functional by now).
> 
> The problem is that when I use mandrake installation CD's and select
> 'upgrade', it assumes the OS partition to upgrade is the one with raid
> instead of the 'new' one. How can I force the system to choose the other
> OS or at least ask me before?
> 
> Any hint will be wellcomed. Thanx in advance.
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Re: [expert] USB Storage Device -> /dev/sd?? mappings

[bascule]

i wonder if it's a lun thing, like if you have multi cd changer? i know 
nothing about scsi devices with more than one lun in linux but maybe it's a 
start in a google search?

bascule

On Wednesday 20 Nov 2002 2:16 am, Theo Brinkman wrote:
> Well, its /dev/scsi/host1/... because the laptop has a cd burner, but no
> nothing extra in there either.  Checked that out right away when I saw
> the links.
>
> - Theo
>
> bascule wrote:
> >well i can't say i know what you should do next, there's definitely
> > nothing extra in /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/ ? (was wondering if it was just a
> > case of missing links?)
>
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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[David Guntner]

John McQuillen grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 12:31, David Guntner wrote:
> 
> > Well, the TERM value that *I'm* using doesn't come in to play, in this 
> > case. :-)  I'm using a PHP web application which uses expect to spawn 
> > screen and do its thing.  So it's the apache user that's executing this 
> > command from within the web server.  There's no TERM set for that, nor 
> > should there be (as far as I know).  Is there a setting/command-line 
> > switch/something else that can be used to tell screen to disregard TERM (or 
> > the lack thereof?)
> > 
> Can't you just include ?TERM=xterm in your link to the application?

Will that interfere with other things that are already set up?  The address 
line already shows ?otherstuff=somethingelse when I click on a link, so I 
know that it's already looking at what it's being called with.

I'm just trying to avoid problems here. :-)  I'll give it a try.

Alternately, is there a way to specify the TERM variable on the expect 
spawn?  For example, one of the scripts has this in it:

cd $op19 
set timeout 20 
spawn screen ./nwserver -interactive -maxclients $op0 -minlevel $op1 -
  maxlevel $op2 -pauseandplay $op3 -pvp $op4 -servervault $op5 -elc $op6 
  -ilr $op7 -gametype $op8 -oneparty $op9 -difficulty $op10 
  -autosaveinterval $op11 -dmpassword $op12 -adminpassword $op13 
  -servername $op14 -publicserver $op15 -reloadwhenempty $op16 
  -port $op17 -module $op18
match_max 10
expect eof

(The indenting is being done by me to make the wrap-around readable.  
Everything from "spawn" until just before "max_match" is all on one line.)  
I'll give a try to doing the TERM=xterm that you mention above - hopefully 
it will work.  I'm just curios to see if there's another way in case that 
doesn't work

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Re: [expert] make an rpm list on disk

[Brian Parish]

On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 12:47, Matthew O. Persico wrote:
> I am transplanting my cdrom, video card and hard disk from a dual CPU PII 266 box to 
>a single CPU PIV 1.7GHz box.
> 
> I am betting that I can simply choose the non-smp kernel when I boot up to get me 
>going.
> 
> If I lose the bet, I am going to have to re-install.
> 
> I thought there was a way to put the list of RPMs on a disk so that when you 
>re-install, you don't have to slog through all the menus to chose what you want. Does 
>anyone know the command to make the file and how to invoke it during the install?
> 
> Much obliged.
> 
> --
> Matthew
> 
Fire up the Control Center and look under Boot.  You'll find an Auto
Install icon there.

HTH
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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[David Guntner]

John McQuillen grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> 
> Can't you just include ?TERM=xterm in your link to the application?

FWIW, I just tried it that way, and it didn't work

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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 20:31, David Guntner wrote:
 
> Well, the TERM value that *I'm* using doesn't come in to play, in this 
> case. :-)  I'm using a PHP web application which uses expect to spawn 
> screen and do its thing.  So it's the apache user that's executing this 
> command from within the web server.  There's no TERM set for that, nor 
> should there be (as far as I know).  Is there a setting/command-line 
> switch/something else that can be used to tell screen to disregard TERM (or 
> the lack thereof?)
> --Dave
> -- 

See if this is relevant to your situation:

"On the  other  end,  screen understands one set of control codes. It
relies on the application using these codes. This means  applications  
that  run  under screen  must be able to adapt their control codes to
screen. The application should use the  TERM  variable  and  termcap or 
terminfo  library to find out how to drive its terminal. When running
under screen, the terminal is  virtual and  is  only defined by  the 
set  of  control codes that screen understands.  The  TERM  variable 
is  automaticallysetto "screen"  and  the  "screen"-entries 
should  exist  in the databases. If your application uses hardcoded 
control  codes  rather than  a database, you are  on  your own.  Hint: 
The codes understood by screen are a superset  of  the  very  common 
definition named  "vt100"."

This was from /usr/share/doc/screen-3.9.10/FAQ.  It seems to me that a
good place to start looking is at the environment variables present for
apache.

HTH,

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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 21:44, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> This was from /usr/share/doc/screen-3.9.10/FAQ.  It seems to me that a
> good place to start looking is at the environment variables present for
> apache.

And what variables are being exported when a shell is generated by those
apache users...if any.
 
HTH,
 
LX


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Re: [expert] printing multiple photos

[Jonathan Dlouhy]

On Tuesday 19 November 2002 5:39 pm, Brian Schroeder wrote:
> As Pierre said, "there are SO many ways in Linux...".  So often,
> when I want to do something, the problem is deciding which tool
> to use!
> Since you like Word for this, I too would have suggested oowriter.
> But xfig is something else that could be well worth a try.  It is
> on the Mandrake CDs, but not generally installed by default.  It
> will also give you virtually unlimited positioning and scaling
> options.
>
> Brian.

> >On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:07:39 -0500 Jonathan Dlouhy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >wrote:
> > > Is there a way to use GIMP or another editing program that will allow
> > > me, for example, to put two different pictures, like 4"x6" on the same
> > > page and print them that way? I hate to use the Windoze word, but there
> > > are numerous programs for 'doze that will do this easily. There must be
> > > a Linux equivalent.

Brian, I didn't mean that I prefer MS Word, just that I dislike have to use 
the word "Windows". So far, the easiest way to do what I wanted is just to 
use openoffice, insert the pics, move them around, resize, add text, etc. and 
it's quite easy. Thanks for the reply.

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Re: [expert] Any way to tell "screen" to not *care* about term type?

[David Guntner]

Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> See if this is relevant to your situation:

[deleted]

Actually, between you and John (I think that was his name), I got an idea.  
(Yea I know, always dangerous :)

I edited /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd, and put in an "export TERM=vt100" at the 
beginning of the script.  Actually, I tried using "xterm" as John 
suggested, but that didn't work out so well, since screen tried to set the 
title bar of the (non-existant) window with some information, and I got a 
really neat unreadable output on the web page. :-)  Setting to vt100 seems 
to be working better.  A little fine-tuning, and I might actually get this 
interface working right. :-)

Thanks for the help, to you and John.

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Re: [expert] Kernel error

[Jack Coates]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 17:46, Dave Seff wrote:
> I had a user's machine (Mdk 8.2) suddenly freeze up. The cpu was at 100%
> (kernel, not user), and he was kicked back out to the logic screen. 
> 
> I then found this in /var/adm/messages. 
> 
> Nov 19 16:15:39 advisen13 kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation
> failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
> Nov 19 16:15:39 advisen13 kernel: VM: killing process X
> 
> 

2.4 kernels will kill runaway processes -- something caused X to run
away, and the alloc failure tells me it was probably memory. Have the
user run gkrellm or top and it will be a little clearer what happened,
but I don't know a good way to remotely figure it out.


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Re: [expert] WLAN -Pism2 Chipset-Mandrake9-config question.

[Jerry A!]

: On 2002-11-19 Bharath Sankaranarayan said:
:
: card,DWL-650 wireless card based on Prism2 chipset on pcmcia) with Grub
: 
: I installed a workstation with a few additions to the standard install
: and did the update towards the end of the installation.  Now I would
: like to have my DWL-650 wireless card working. The machine has a built
: in e100 and it was properly detected.

wvlan_cs should be a viable driver for the DWL-650.  Actually, so should
orinoco_cs and prism2_cs.

I'm cc'ing this to cooker b/c I'd like to start a discussion about
updating /etc/pcmcia/config or creating a /etc/pcmcia/orinoco.conf.
While the wvlan_cs driver works, I thought that it was deprecated in
favor of orinoco_cs (which is actively supported) for Hermes-based
cards.

: So I went to the folder called /3rdparty and found that there were
: precompiled versions of prism2_cs driver which is what my card uses.  I
: modified the /etc/pcmcia/config file to change the driver for the
: Intersil Prisim II to read prism2_cs instead of wlan_cs. Also I added on
: my /etc/modules.conf alias wlan0 prism2_cs I rebooted and my card beeped
: 2times like before and then I got a steady green light Upon lsmod I
: found that prism2_cs was loaded and so was p80211 and ds and
: yenta_socket.

The prism2_cs driver doesn't implement all the kernel wireless
extensions.  Thus you will not be able to use iwconfig(1) for
configuration.  Please grab the prism2-utils package from contrib.  The
prism2_* drivers require wlan-ctl(1) for configuration.

Another solution might be checking out the prism2 hostap driver at
.  It supports the prism2_cs stuff, as well
as providing hostap mode.  Oh, and it does have the current wireless
extensions so you can use iwconfig(1).

Who's ear could a I put a bug into for evaluating this driver for
kernel-2.4.19-20mdk?

Hope you find this helpful.  And for everyone on the cooker list, sorry
for the cross-post but this seems like a good way to kill two birds
with one stone.

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RE: [expert] WLAN -Pism2 Chipset-Mandrake9-config question.

[Bharath Sankaranarayan]

Pls. See my response below yours. Thanks for all your pointers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jerry A!
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] WLAN -Pism2 Chipset-Mandrake9-config question.

: On 2002-11-19 Bharath Sankaranarayan said:
:
: card,DWL-650 wireless card based on Prism2 chipset on pcmcia) with
Grub
: 
: I installed a workstation with a few additions to the standard install
: and did the update towards the end of the installation.  Now I would
: like to have my DWL-650 wireless card working. The machine has a built
: in e100 and it was properly detected.

wvlan_cs should be a viable driver for the DWL-650.  Actually, so should
orinoco_cs and prism2_cs.

Does this work with WEP encryption.? I have tried it before but it has
not but works without encryption, at least with 1000AP. I have not tried
it with mandrake9.

I'm cc'ing this to cooker b/c I'd like to start a discussion about
updating /etc/pcmcia/config or creating a /etc/pcmcia/orinoco.conf.
While the wvlan_cs driver works, I thought that it was deprecated in
favor of orinoco_cs (which is actively supported) for Hermes-based
cards.


: So I went to the folder called /3rdparty and found that there were
: precompiled versions of prism2_cs driver which is what my card uses.
I
: modified the /etc/pcmcia/config file to change the driver for the
: Intersil Prisim II to read prism2_cs instead of wlan_cs. Also I added
on
: my /etc/modules.conf alias wlan0 prism2_cs I rebooted and my card
beeped
: 2times like before and then I got a steady green light Upon lsmod I
: found that prism2_cs was loaded and so was p80211 and ds and
: yenta_socket.

The prism2_cs driver doesn't implement all the kernel wireless
extensions.  Thus you will not be able to use iwconfig(1) for
configuration.  Please grab the prism2-utils package from contrib.  The
prism2_* drivers require wlan-ctl(1) for configuration.

I will try to get this and give it a shot.

Another solution might be checking out the prism2 hostap driver at
.  It supports the prism2_cs stuff, as well
as providing hostap mode.  Oh, and it does have the current wireless
extensions so you can use iwconfig(1).

Who's ear could a I put a bug into for evaluating this driver for
kernel-2.4.19-20mdk?

Hope you find this helpful.  And for everyone on the cooker list, sorry
for the cross-post but this seems like a good way to kill two birds
with one stone.

--Jerry




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Re: [expert] Kernel error

[Jack Coates]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 19:37, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 17:46, Dave Seff wrote:
> > I had a user's machine (Mdk 8.2) suddenly freeze up. The cpu was at 100%
> > (kernel, not user), and he was kicked back out to the logic screen. 
> > 
> > I then found this in /var/adm/messages. 
> > 
> > Nov 19 16:15:39 advisen13 kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation
> > failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
> > Nov 19 16:15:39 advisen13 kernel: VM: killing process X
> > 
> > 
> 
> 2.4 kernels will kill runaway processes -- something caused X to run
> away, and the alloc failure tells me it was probably memory. Have the
> user run gkrellm or top and it will be a little clearer what happened,
> but I don't know a good way to remotely figure it out.
> 
> 
Should qualify my own statement :-) 2.4 kernels will kill runaway
processes _if_ they run away slowly enough for the kernel to catch it
and figure out what's going on... I've had gpilotd beta releases eat
768M of RAM and 1G of swap in about twenty seconds, and when that
happens the machine just reboots. No ifs ands or buts, no stop and think
about this, it's just a goner :-)
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Re: [expert] Kernel error

[Dave Seff]

Just curios, Why didn't the kernel just kill gpilotd and not reboot?

On your other note, By the time it was brought to my attention, it was
already killed. I had no time to run top, let  alone gkrellm. 
> > 
> Should qualify my own statement :-) 2.4 kernels will kill runaway
> processes _if_ they run away slowly enough for the kernel to catch it
> and figure out what's going on... I've had gpilotd beta releases eat
> 768M of RAM and 1G of swap in about twenty seconds, and when that
> happens the machine just reboots. No ifs ands or buts, no stop and think
> about this, it's just a goner :-)
> -- 
> Jack Coates
> Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Kernel error

[Jack Coates]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 20:28, Dave Seff wrote:
> Just curios, Why didn't the kernel just kill gpilotd and not reboot?

I think there wasn't enough time for the kernel to realize that this was
not intended usage of memory. I can't imagine what gpilotd was doing to
consume that much memory that quickly, anyway.
> 
> On your other note, By the time it was brought to my attention, it was
> already killed. I had no time to run top, let  alone gkrellm. 

I gathered that -- what I meant was that if you run top or gkrellm on a
regular basis, you can see when the process goes crazy before it
actually causes bad things to happen.

> > > 
> > Should qualify my own statement :-) 2.4 kernels will kill runaway
> > processes _if_ they run away slowly enough for the kernel to catch it
> > and figure out what's going on... I've had gpilotd beta releases eat
> > 768M of RAM and 1G of swap in about twenty seconds, and when that
> > happens the machine just reboots. No ifs ands or buts, no stop and think
> > about this, it's just a goner :-)
> > -- 
> > Jack Coates
> > Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] xinitrc problem

[Ron Stodden]

Matthew Van Horn wrote:

Posted to newbie, but got no response.

Since I upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0, I am having problems using my old
(8.1) ~/.xinitrc


Since you are going from 8.1 to 9.0, this is a major step (8-->9) and 
compatibility may not be assumed.

You need to do an initial install of 9.0 - I would suggest to a new 
partition so that you can (mount &) copy across your important old 8.1 
data to your new home directory.

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Re: [expert] make an rpm list on disk

[Ron Stodden]

Matthew O. Persico wrote:

I am transplanting my cdrom, video card and hard disk from a dual CPU PII 266 box to a single CPU PIV 1.7GHz box.

I am betting that I can simply choose the non-smp kernel when I boot up to get me going.

If I lose the bet, I am going to have to re-install.

I thought there was a way to put the list of RPMs on a disk so that when you re-install, you don't have to slog through all the menus to chose what you want. Does anyone know the command to make the file and how to invoke it during the install?


You don't really provide enough information.   Simplest way is to borrow 
the hard disk from the source machine and put it on the new machine for 
the following exercise:

1.  Use Partition Magic to copy the Linux partition to the same Linux 
partition name on the new machine.

2.  If you copy to another partition, all you need to change on the new 
machine is all the mentions of the old partition in /etc/fstab and 
/etc/lilo.conf, then as root run new lilo.

2 may require you to make a temporay new linux minimum-size partition, 
or there may be enough from CD1's rescue mode to do the job.

3.  Return the source hard disk.

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Re: [expert] automount lmontel

[Brian Schroeder]

Does that mean it is merely a minor bug I have to put up with,
or is there some way for me to fix it?



From: "Tommy Wareing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [expert] automount lmontel
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:13:10 -

Given that Laurent Montel is one of the Mandrake
development team, and his name is attached to many
of the RPMs (particularly kdegraphics), I think it's
actually a left-over configuration option.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] automount lmontel


> Brian Schroeder wrote:
> > I am getting numerous messages (in /var/log/messages) from
> > automount, trying to mount /home/lmontel.  How can I find
> > where this is coming from and stop it?
> >
> > automount[1163]: attempting to mount entry /home/lmontel
> > automount[1975]: >> mount: special device /local_home/lmontel does not
> > exist
> >
> > (Note:  the automount map has the entry "* localhost:/local_home/&"
> > to catch anything not explicitly mentioned earlier)
> >
> > Brian.
> >
> > _
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> If you running KDM with the little penguin faces it will look in every
> user home directory for what "face" it should use. That will cause
> automount to mount every user home directory on your machine.
>
> If user lmontel does not exist on your machine, then delete the account.
>
> You could also just make a directory in /local_home called lmontel :)
>
>
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Re: [expert] make an rpm list on disk

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 21:33, Brian Parish wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 12:47, Matthew O. Persico wrote:

> > I am transplanting my cdrom, video card and hard disk from a dual 
> > CPU PII 266 box to a single CPU PIV 1.7GHz box.
> > 
> > I am betting that I can simply choose the non-smp kernel when I boot
> > up to get me going.
> > 
> > If I lose the bet, I am going to have to re-install.
> > 
> > I thought there was a way to put the list of RPMs on a disk so that
> > when you re-install, you don't have to slog through all the menus to
> > chose what you want. Does anyone know the command to make the file
> > and how to invoke it during the install?
> > 
> > Much obliged.
> > 
> > --
> > Matthew
> > 
> Fire up the Control Center and look under Boot.  You'll find an Auto
> Install icon there.
> 
> HTH
> Brian

Brian is correct.  But after you create the disk there is more that you
can do.  If you do a directory of the disk you will see several files,
but the one you are really interested in is "auto_inst.cfg".  This is
the file that contains the names of ALL the rpms that were installed in
your system at install time.  If you pull the file into an editor you
will see them.

With this disk, you can start a new install of a newer version of
Mandrake (such as 9.0) and then when you get to the package selection
part, you unselect everything and load the rpm package names from the
floppy with the auto_inst file. (using the "load from floppy" option)
The rpm names in that file are not version specific, therefore all newer
versions of the rpms will be pulled into the install routine.

Then the only thing to do is to peruse the flat list of the 9.0 packages
and select what might be new and interesting that wasn't in the 8.2
distro.

The point is that even if auto_inst.cfg was created under 8.2, it will
still work with 9.0.  (not the entire install disk, just auto_inst.cfg) 
This allows you to save yourself from reselecting everything whenever
you do a move from an older distro to a newer one (Mandrake, that is.)

Just use the floppy load option in the package selection portion of the
Mandrake installer.

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Re: [expert] GUI Crashing all the time in 9.0

[KevinO]

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> I can give this a try.  May I ask why I'm giving this a try?
>

I suggested it because you mentioned that you have switched to using an AMD
Athlon and these steps have helped others in the past with problems unique to
those systems...

>> Are you booting with the boot-time kernel parameters
>> "mem=nopentium" and/or "noapic" ?


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