Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 9:38 pm, Larry Sword wrote:
> This has turned into a bucket of worms. I didn't have these headers
> until I starting playing around with the setting. Now I can't get
> rid of them Has something to do with the cups and kde_print but
> haven't found out where. Not acting the way it's suppose to or the
> way it did before my updates...  Still looking.
>
> Anyone else with this problem out there?
>
> Larry

I'm still not sure what these headers look like.  Could you find some 
way of letting us see one?

Anne

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Re: [expert] Looking for Docs

2003-08-25 Thread Woody Green
If I understood the question, you want a MDK 9.1 system with
thin (possibly diskless) clients/terminals to attach to it.

With that, my understanding is that 9.1 has the config tools
to set this up via drakTermServ.  To install:

urpmi terminal-server

It is on the Download Edition's third CD (i18n).

I know MDK 9.1 has the server tools to make it work as I have
done it manually and with LTSP.  That said, I prefer the rpms
from LTSP.org along with their config tools (as opposed to a
manual or drakTermServ setup) for a one machine quick server
setup.  The clients are PXE (or boot floppy) based and thus
have *nothing* on them what-so-ever, they network boot.

The main relevent server components are:

xdm (or kdm or gdm) - supplies graphical login for clients
dhcpd - Assigns clients IP addresses and directs them to
boot code if required.
tftp  - Where the initial boot code comes from usually.
nfs   - How the clients get a root filesystem to run X and
use xdmcp.
named (DNS) - hostname lookup

LTSP makes the setup a reletive breeze.  http://www.ltsp.org/

Good Luck,

 Woody



James Sparenberg said:
> Anyone know of the url for the documentation on setting up MDK thin
> clients and 9.1?   I'm having absolutely no luck with google on this.
>
> James
>
>
>
>


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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Larry Sword
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 25 Aug 2003 9:38 pm, Larry Sword wrote:
 

This has turned into a bucket of worms. I didn't have these headers
until I starting playing around with the setting. Now I can't get
rid of them Has something to do with the cups and kde_print but
haven't found out where. Not acting the way it's suppose to or the
way it did before my updates...  Still looking.
Anyone else with this problem out there?

Larry
   

I'm still not sure what these headers look like.  Could you find some 
way of letting us see one?

Anne

 

Sure, normally if one were to print a file, say a shopping list, the 
printer would print only that information which is part of the original 
file.   This header is that "extra" information that gets printed on the 
top line, within the area commonly known as the header section. The 
information now printed is:

Left on page: Date 08/24/03In the Centre: The file name On the 
Right: Page No.
08/24/03  Agent ph Chicago 
Title1

Larry

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Re: [expert] Gnomemeeting?

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 10:09 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:

> Mine is james.sys so there it's the same.  diff being username.

I'm also trying another source of info - an off-list conversation with 
a well-known name.  If I get anything useful I'll pass it on.

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Re: [expert] Looking for Docs

2003-08-25 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
James Sparenberg wrote:

Anyone know of the url for the documentation on setting up MDK thin
clients and 9.1?   I'm having absolutely no luck with google on this.  

James

This may help:

http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/mandrake_ltsp.html

I think it's for 8.1, but you may be able to fill in the blanks for 9.1.

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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 9:39 pm, Bill wrote:
> Hows about a link to that board.
>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?find=%3C1061805916-27809.11%40forum0.thdo.bbc.co.uk%3E#mid

It seems to have 'opening hours'!  Still, if you catch it later, 
perhaps you would like to complement my softly softly approach with 
something a little more robust.

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Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 9:49 pm, Dick Gevers wrote:
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> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:58:31 +0100, Anne Wilson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote about Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost:
> >> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> > I had to reboot this morning - there were 131 mails waiting
> >> > for me at Tiscali, and I could not get them.  I'm sure a
> >> > 'service restart' was what was needed, but what service?
> >
> > The moment I rebooted I could collect the mail
> >as normal.  It has to be something here that has its knickers in a
> >twist.
>
> Perhaps the same thing as what used to happen to me a long time
> ago: if you disconnect your modem or ethernet cable your firewall
> (prelude?) and/or iptables and/or shorewall will go to sleep, e.g.
> service prelude status could show `prelude dead but prelude-report
> running`. If that is the case you won`t be able to connect.
>
> I solved it by setting up a set of sudo commands, such as ifup
> eth0, ifdown eth0, service prelude stop, service prelude start,
> service iptables stop, service iptables start and made aliases for
> commands to combine them into one command only. Never had the
> problem again.
>
> HTH.
> Regards,
> =Dick Gevers=

Hi, Dick.  My firewall is black box, on the router.  I had already 
rebooted the router, so it wasn't the problem.  I don't know what is 
running here that could have caused it.  It's no big deal, but I hate 
to be pushed into a re-boot 

Anne

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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-25 Thread Bill
Hows about a link to that board.

On Star Date Monday 25 August 2003 01:01 pm, Anne Wilson sent this sub-space 
message. 
 
> On Monday 25 Aug 2003 11:21 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> >  *** Anne Wilson Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:40:00 +0100 :
> > > Well it's a start.  I wish I could say the same for the media
> > > here (UK).  All I've heard is 'Internet virus' and 'email virus'
> >
> > With the infamous 'I LOVE YOU' it was like that in Germany. All
> > mass media told Joe User about the 'Internet Worm', never
> > mentioning that it only affected certain systems.
> >
> > It's different now. I watched 2 major news shows which explicitely
> > stated that the new attacks only affected Microsoft products. One
> > even featured an 'expert' of a well known computer magazine stating
> > that users of the (quote) Open Source Operating System Linux
> > (unquote) are not affected. He closed his statement "At least a
> > minority of computer users may sleep quiet these days. And tomorrow
> > ask your boss which system he uses!"
>
> Like it 
>
> > This last sentence was my favourite! I wrote a mail to the expert
> > and thanked him for this statement.
>
> I'm doing my best.  I found that bbb.co.uk have a bulletin board, so I
> started a thread there, being very careful not to sell linux as such,
> just pointing out that it is a combination of M$ and user ignorance
> that enables the fast spread.  If you have time, feel free to join in
> the thread and give me some support.
>
> Anne

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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 13:07, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 25 Aug 2003 5:23 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Sunday 24 August 2003 08:01 pm, Philip Webb wrote:
> >
> > Hi Philip, thanks for the reply.
> >
> > > on Linux, it's best to use the right tool for the job,
> > > rather than trying to stick to an environment (as in M$ Windows).
> >
> > Okay, but if I have kedit open, and click on the print icon,
> > shouldn't I be able to expect this option to work? Or drag 'n drop
> > a file to the printer icon on the desktop?
> >
> > > use 'xpp filename' from a command-line in a terminal:
> > > it gives you a lot of options for controlling how you print files
> > > & should certainly not print a header unless you ask for one.
> > >
> > > this is not a CUPS problem.
> >
> > I have xpp installed - but I want to be able to print out from
> > within apps and be able to drop text files on to the printer icon
> > on the desktop.
> 
> The big advantage of xpp is that you can 'install' several versions of 
> the same printer, set up for different jobs, and xpp will allow you 
> to choose which one prints for any job.  Without it everything goes 
> to lpr.  I have found that there are some things that actually print 
> better from lpr, others don't work so well, but for most things I 
> like to be able to choose a specific configuration.  It's worth 
> installing xpp.
> 
> Anne

Does this solve the problem that mozilla has with a system that has
multiple printers?  Moz seems to only print to default no matter what
and doesn't give you an option to change.  (konq to the rescue for now)

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Re: [expert] Looking for Docs

2003-08-25 Thread Charlie
quoting James Sparenberg; Monday 25 August 2003 01:43 pm:
> Anyone know of the url for the documentation on setting up MDK thin
> clients and 9.1?   I'm having absolutely no luck with google on this.
>
> James

Hi James;

Dunno if any of this will help you but I tried this search pattern, and got a 
few hits;

thin client configuration; Mandrake

then I added to it;

thin client configuration; Mandrake 9.1

and got a lot (331) of hits:

http://www.google.ca/search?q=thin+client+configuration%3B+Mandrake+9.1&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=G

Maybe something there will help? I hope

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Re: [expert] Gnomemeeting?

2003-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 13:04, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 25 Aug 2003 7:22 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Monday 25 August 2003 11:28 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> 
> > > PS.  Just curious  who own video0 ... when I'm logged in it's
> > > james.sys.
> >
> > Here, "ls -al /dev/vide0" gives this:
> >
> > crw---1 darklord sys   81,   0 Jun 12 22:35 /dev/video0
> >
> > What does yours say?
> >
> > Thanks!
> 
> I've been out all day, so only just picked this up.  Mine shows the 
> same configuration, owned by anne group sys.
> 
> Anne


Mine is james.sys so there it's the same.  diff being username.  




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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Larry Sword
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Monday 25 August 2003 12:28 am, Larry Sword wrote:

 

You need to review two docs: file:/usr/share/doc/cups/sum.html and "man
lpoptions".
Look for "headers" and "prettyprint".
Larry
   

Hi Larry. Thanks for the reply.

I looked at sum.html and according to that, "lpoptions -r prettyprint" is 
supposed to remove and save this option.

I tried it - as root and my normal user account, made no difference - still 
get a header.

I couldn't find anything listed under headers, per say...

 

Ronald,

This has turned into a bucket of worms. I didn't have these headers 
until I starting playing around with the setting. Now I can't get rid of 
them Has something to do with the cups and kde_print but haven't 
found out where. Not acting the way it's suppose to or the way it did 
before my updates...  Still looking.

Anyone else with this problem out there?

Larry

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Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost

2003-08-25 Thread Dick Gevers
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:58:31 +0100, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost:

>> Anne Wilson wrote:
>> > I had to reboot this morning - there were 131 mails waiting for
>> > me at Tiscali, and I could not get them.  I'm sure a 'service
>> > restart' was what was needed, but what service?

> The moment I rebooted I could collect the mail 
>as normal.  It has to be something here that has its knickers in a 
>twist.

Perhaps the same thing as what used to happen to me a long time ago: if you
disconnect your modem or ethernet cable your firewall (prelude?) and/or
iptables and/or shorewall will go to sleep, e.g. service prelude status
could show `prelude dead but prelude-report running`. If that is the case
you won`t be able to connect.

I solved it by setting up a set of sudo commands, such as ifup eth0, ifdown
eth0, service prelude stop, service prelude start, service iptables stop,
service iptables start and made aliases for commands to combine them into
one command only. Never had the problem again.

HTH.
Regards,
=Dick Gevers=

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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 5:23 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 24 August 2003 08:01 pm, Philip Webb wrote:
>
> Hi Philip, thanks for the reply.
>
> > on Linux, it's best to use the right tool for the job,
> > rather than trying to stick to an environment (as in M$ Windows).
>
> Okay, but if I have kedit open, and click on the print icon,
> shouldn't I be able to expect this option to work? Or drag 'n drop
> a file to the printer icon on the desktop?
>
> > use 'xpp filename' from a command-line in a terminal:
> > it gives you a lot of options for controlling how you print files
> > & should certainly not print a header unless you ask for one.
> >
> > this is not a CUPS problem.
>
> I have xpp installed - but I want to be able to print out from
> within apps and be able to drop text files on to the printer icon
> on the desktop.

The big advantage of xpp is that you can 'install' several versions of 
the same printer, set up for different jobs, and xpp will allow you 
to choose which one prints for any job.  Without it everything goes 
to lpr.  I have found that there are some things that actually print 
better from lpr, others don't work so well, but for most things I 
like to be able to choose a specific configuration.  It's worth 
installing xpp.

Anne

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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-25 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Anne Wilson Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:01:47 +0100 :

> I'm doing my best.  I found that bbb.co.uk have a bulletin board, so I
> started a thread there, being very careful not to sell linux as such, 
> just pointing out that it is a combination of M$ and user ignorance 
> that enables the fast spread.  If you have time, feel free to join in 
> the thread and give me some support.

Sorry, too much on my desk right now. I even quit my favourite
Children's Playground (aka a.o.l.m) due to my busy schedule. :(

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Re: [expert] Gnomemeeting?

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 7:22 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2003 11:28 am, James Sparenberg wrote:

> > PS.  Just curious  who own video0 ... when I'm logged in it's
> > james.sys.
>
> Here, "ls -al /dev/vide0" gives this:
>
> crw---1 darklord sys   81,   0 Jun 12 22:35 /dev/video0
>
> What does yours say?
>
> Thanks!

I've been out all day, so only just picked this up.  Mine shows the 
same configuration, owned by anne group sys.

Anne

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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 11:21 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>  *** Anne Wilson Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:40:00 +0100 :
> > Well it's a start.  I wish I could say the same for the media
> > here (UK).  All I've heard is 'Internet virus' and 'email virus'
>
> With the infamous 'I LOVE YOU' it was like that in Germany. All
> mass media told Joe User about the 'Internet Worm', never
> mentioning that it only affected certain systems.
>
> It's different now. I watched 2 major news shows which explicitely
> stated that the new attacks only affected Microsoft products. One
> even featured an 'expert' of a well known computer magazine stating
> that users of the (quote) Open Source Operating System Linux
> (unquote) are not affected. He closed his statement "At least a
> minority of computer users may sleep quiet these days. And tomorrow
> ask your boss which system he uses!"
>
Like it 

> This last sentence was my favourite! I wrote a mail to the expert
> and thanked him for this statement.
>
I'm doing my best.  I found that bbb.co.uk have a bulletin board, so I 
started a thread there, being very careful not to sell linux as such, 
just pointing out that it is a combination of M$ and user ignorance 
that enables the fast spread.  If you have time, feel free to join in 
the thread and give me some support.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 12:09 pm, Bill Mullen wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I had to reboot this morning - there were 131 mails waiting for
> > me at Tiscali, and I could not get them.  I'm sure a 'service
> > restart' was what was needed, but what service?
>
> Fetchmail?

  Yes - I really must make time for that one.

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Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 11:05 am, KevinO wrote:
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>
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I had to reboot this morning - there were 131 mails waiting for
> > me at Tiscali, and I could not get them.  I'm sure a 'service
> > restart' was what was needed, but what service?
> >
> > I could browse without problem, I could get the webmail page, but
> > KMail could not collect my mail.
> >
> > Anne
>
> It doesn't sound like a 'service' problem. (Unless you are running
> iptables with some new rule blocking access)
>
> kmail pulls mail as a client, from tiscali's mail server in this
> case. The problem may be with them...
>
No - definitely not.  The moment I rebooted I could collect the mail 
as normal.  It has to be something here that has its knickers in a 
twist.

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[expert] Looking for Docs

2003-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg
Anyone know of the url for the documentation on setting up MDK thin
clients and 9.1?   I'm having absolutely no luck with google on this.  

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Re: [expert] what is this?

2003-08-25 Thread Woody Green

A quick search of google:

http://www.google.com/search?q=pwc%20Frame%20buffer%20underflow&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

seems to suggest you have a USB based Phillips WebCam.  and from
reading a kernel source file (line 752 - 9th search result from
above):

http://www.atomised.org/docs/linux-2.4.19-drivers/pwc-if_8c-source.html

it appears to be debug output, nothing fatal (I only glanced at
it and could be wrong).

 Woody


Bill said:
> I am getting this line in my syslog
>
> kernel: pwc Frame buffer underflow (19596 bytes); discarded
>
> what does it mean?
>
>


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Re: [expert] Gnomemeeting?

2003-08-25 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 25 August 2003 11:28 am, James Sparenberg wrote:

> I've got it working here.  Dunno what I did except install it.  I've a
> creative webcam on it (usb) and it works fine.  I do get one error when
> starting from the command line.
>
> (gnomemeeting:2861): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtkwindow.c: line
> 2426 (gtk_window_realize_icon): assertion `info->icon_pixmap == NULL'
> failed
>
>
> which hasn't affected performance at all.  (I've only used it in a test
> mode on the local lan btw)
>
> James
>
> PS.  Just curious  who own video0 ... when I'm logged in it's
> james.sys.

Here, "ls -al /dev/vide0" gives this:

crw---1 darklord sys   81,   0 Jun 12 22:35 /dev/video0

What does yours say?

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[expert] what is this?

2003-08-25 Thread Bill
I am getting this line in my syslog 

kernel: pwc Frame buffer underflow (19596 bytes); discarded

what does it mean?

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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 25 August 2003 12:28 am, Larry Sword wrote:

> You need to review two docs: file:/usr/share/doc/cups/sum.html and "man
> lpoptions".
> Look for "headers" and "prettyprint".
>
> Larry

Hi Larry. Thanks for the reply.

I looked at sum.html and according to that, "lpoptions -r prettyprint" is 
supposed to remove and save this option.

I tried it - as root and my normal user account, made no difference - still 
get a header.

I couldn't find anything listed under headers, per say...

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Re: [expert] Gnomemeeting?

2003-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:01, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Anyone on the expert list got the latest version of Gnomemeeting working with 
> version 9.1 of Mandrake?
> 
> Anne and I have been trying to get it to work - we can run it as root, but if 
> we use our normal user accounts we get an error message saying that 
> /dev/video0 can't be accessed.
> 
> I tried changing permissions, groups, and owner but nothing helped.
> 
> PS Note that camstream works fine for both of us. I've got a Logitech 3000.

I've got it working here.  Dunno what I did except install it.  I've a
creative webcam on it (usb) and it works fine.  I do get one error when
starting from the command line.

(gnomemeeting:2861): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtkwindow.c: line
2426 (gtk_window_realize_icon): assertion `info->icon_pixmap == NULL'
failed


which hasn't affected performance at all.  (I've only used it in a test
mode on the local lan btw) 

James

PS.  Just curious  who own video0 ... when I'm logged in it's
james.sys.  




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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-25 Thread Charlie
quoting Wolfgang Bornath; Monday 25 August 2003 04:21 am:

> > Well it's a start.  I wish I could say the same for the media here
> > (UK).  All I've heard is 'Internet virus' and 'email virus'
>
> With the infamous 'I LOVE YOU' it was like that in Germany. All mass
> media told Joe User about the 'Internet Worm', never mentioning that it
> only affected certain systems.
>
> It's different now. I watched 2 major news shows which explicitely
> stated that the new attacks only affected Microsoft products. One even
> featured an 'expert' of a well known computer magazine stating that
> users of the (quote) Open Source Operating System Linux (unquote) are
> not affected. He closed his statement "At least a minority of computer
> users may sleep quiet these days. And tomorrow ask your boss which
> system he uses!"
>
> This last sentence was my favourite! I wrote a mail to the expert and
> thanked him for this statement.
>
> wobo

Howdy;

Another example of a "Tech Journalist" reading the winds of change occurred in 
print yesterday. In the Washington Post actually, which I normally don't 
read:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34978-2003Aug23.html

The article is called:

Microsoft Windows: Insecure by Design 

 I'm still laughing and the phone is still ringing. People may be gullible and 
resistant to change but most are far from stupid and will realize that self 
induced pain (dropping an anvil on ones foot, hitting oneself with a hammer, 
*running Windows*) is very simply alleviated.

As for those idiots in management at Microsoft and SCO (Canopy); as well as 
the "Industry Analysts" that think Darl McBride is a wit (they're half right) 
their feet must be in a horrible mess. 

>From all of the well placed shots. ;-)

Regards;
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Re: [expert] iptables question

2003-08-25 Thread Woody Green

The file you seek: /etc/sysconfig/iptables

It's format is that of iptables-save redirected to a file.  You
can either manually edit that file and do:

 service iptables restart

or modify iptables in memory and do:

 iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables

Enjoy,

 Woody

Bill said:
> Is there a file that holds the rules for ipitables that I can edit to add
> lines manually? I tried to google for it but with no luck.
>
> I need to set iptables to log matching ip addys to syslog so I can monitor
> how often I get a certain ip that trys to connect but is droped due to a
> rule
> I set.
>
>


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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 24 August 2003 08:01 pm, Philip Webb wrote:

Hi Philip, thanks for the reply.

> on Linux, it's best to use the right tool for the job,
> rather than trying to stick to an environment (as in M$ Windows).

Okay, but if I have kedit open, and click on the print icon, shouldn't I be 
able to expect this option to work? Or drag 'n drop a file to the printer 
icon on the desktop?

> use 'xpp filename' from a command-line in a terminal:
> it gives you a lot of options for controlling how you print files
> & should certainly not print a header unless you ask for one.
>
> this is not a CUPS problem.

I have xpp installed - but I want to be able to print out from within apps and 
be able to drop text files on to the printer icon on the desktop.

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Re: [expert] Re: Software to record DVD-R/RW?

2003-08-25 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:15:42 -0400
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 23 August 2003 10:01 pm, engage wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 03:03 pm, stefmit wrote:
> > >You haven't seen my post from Sunday, with all relevant links, have you?
> > >
> > >http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ --> link to source inside this
> > >article, worth reading, anyway, which is why I won't give the direct link
> > > ;)
> > >
> > >Stef
> >
> > Man, I get tired of all this reading to try to get things to work in Linux.
> > Can't anyone simplify the process
> 
> Hmmm, you want to get hardware from disparate manufacturers to work doing 
> complex things easily without doing a lot of reading and at least some 
> experimenting?
> 
> 
> I think that I can simplify the process.  Simply buy all of your hardware and 
> software from a single monolithic manufacturer, allow them access to 
> everything that you are doing and finally sell your soul to them for ease of 
> use and not having to think or learn for yourself.  In short, buy Windows.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Phinney
> Software Test Engineer
> 
> 
> 
It's funny.  Way back before all radios were made in Japan, we home-building hams use 
to call ready made radio operators "Appliance Operators".

Same thing applies here.  If you want to know "why" and "how" and you want control, 
you have to crack the books.  Otherwise go to Kmart and get a Gates special, $199.95 
(first installment) and 500.00 everytime you turn around thereafter.

My .02

Lee


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[expert] Gnomemeeting?

2003-08-25 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Anyone on the expert list got the latest version of Gnomemeeting working with 
version 9.1 of Mandrake?

Anne and I have been trying to get it to work - we can run it as root, but if 
we use our normal user accounts we get an error message saying that 
/dev/video0 can't be accessed.

I tried changing permissions, groups, and owner but nothing helped.

PS Note that camstream works fine for both of us. I've got a Logitech 3000.

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Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost

2003-08-25 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

> I had to reboot this morning - there were 131 mails waiting for me at 
> Tiscali, and I could not get them.  I'm sure a 'service restart' was 
> what was needed, but what service?

Fetchmail?

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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-25 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
 *** Anne Wilson Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:40:00 +0100 :

> On Monday 25 Aug 2003 12:39 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> 
> > One of the most interesting things about the recent Microsoft
> > double whammy was that the mass media articles identified them as
> > being exclusively a Microsoft Windows problems that did not affect
> > Linux and Mac users. Better yet, the association of "Microsoft"
> > with "evil" was frequently contained in the headline. As Martha
> > Stewart would say, "And that's a good thing." -- cmg
> 
> Well it's a start.  I wish I could say the same for the media here 
> (UK).  All I've heard is 'Internet virus' and 'email virus'

With the infamous 'I LOVE YOU' it was like that in Germany. All mass
media told Joe User about the 'Internet Worm', never mentioning that it
only affected certain systems.

It's different now. I watched 2 major news shows which explicitely
stated that the new attacks only affected Microsoft products. One even
featured an 'expert' of a well known computer magazine stating that
users of the (quote) Open Source Operating System Linux (unquote) are
not affected. He closed his statement "At least a minority of computer
users may sleep quiet these days. And tomorrow ask your boss which
system he uses!"

This last sentence was my favourite! I wrote a mail to the expert and
thanked him for this statement.

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Re: [expert] Cannot reach host localhost

2003-08-25 Thread KevinO
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Anne Wilson wrote:
> I had to reboot this morning - there were 131 mails waiting for me at
> Tiscali, and I could not get them.  I'm sure a 'service restart' was
> what was needed, but what service?
>
> I could browse without problem, I could get the webmail page, but
> KMail could not collect my mail.
>
> Anne
>
It doesn't sound like a 'service' problem. (Unless you are running iptables
with some new rule blocking access)

kmail pulls mail as a client, from tiscali's mail server in this case. The
problem may be with them...

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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 12:39 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

> One of the most interesting things about the recent Microsoft
> double whammy was that the mass media articles identified them as
> being exclusively a Microsoft Windows problems that did not affect
> Linux and Mac users. Better yet, the association of "Microsoft"
> with "evil" was frequently contained in the headline. As Martha
> Stewart would say, "And that's a good thing." -- cmg

Well it's a start.  I wish I could say the same for the media here 
(UK).  All I've heard is 'Internet virus' and 'email virus'

Anne

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[expert] Cannot reach host localhost

2003-08-25 Thread Anne Wilson
I had to reboot this morning - there were 131 mails waiting for me at 
Tiscali, and I could not get them.  I'm sure a 'service restart' was 
what was needed, but what service?

I could browse without problem, I could get the webmail page, but 
KMail could not collect my mail.

Anne

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[expert] writing to / reading from ISA Card using outw/inw

2003-08-25 Thread Schneller Marcus, snm
Dear Mandrake-Experts

I have an PnP-ISA-Card installed in my PC, but do have problems
reading/writing from/to the card.

/proc/isapnp says:

Card 1 'BUR0020:BUR PCIO' PnP version 1.0
Logical device 0 'BUR:Unknown'
Supported registers 0x2
Device is active
Active port 0x220
Active IRQ 5
Active DMA ,0
Resources 0
Priority acceptable
Port 0x200-0xffe0, align 0x1f, size 0x20, 16-bit address decoding IRQ
3,4,5,6,7,2/9,10,11,12,14,15 High-Edge

My interpretation is that the Base Address is 0x220.

I'm using ioperm to get permission to read/write to the card as follows
(I'm root):

int initPort()
{
if(iIOAddr == 0) //iIOAddr is 0x220
return 1;

return ioperm(iIOAddr, 0x20, 1);
}

Reading(writing is done as follows:

void readIOw(uint16 iOffset, uint16 *iVal) {
if (iVal == NULL) {
printf("readIOw: can't write to null pointer\n");
return;
}
*iVal = inw(iIOAddr + iOffset);
//usleep(1);
}

void writeIOw(uint16 iOffset, uint16 iVal) {
outw(iVal, iIOAddr + iOffset);
//usleep(1);
}

Well, to be short, it doesn't work. readIOw always returns 0x, which
shouldn't be.

The same Card works fine under Tornado/vxWorks using the same
mechanisms. Therefore the I think the addresses are correct and it might
be a Linux realated problem.

Any help is really welcome

Marcus
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[expert] english user interface but can process chinese

2003-08-25 Thread Vincent Chen
Dear all,

I use mandrake 9.0 for a while. The only reason I
didn't upgrade to mandrak 9.1 is I can edit .i18n to
have english  environment but still can use chinese
input method and display chinese content. After
upgrade to 9.1, I must set locale to zh.TW to have
chinese input work correctly. But all menu are chinese
and kconsole display everything in double byte. Is it
possible to keep user interface english but still can
process chinese properly? If yes, how can I do that in
mandrake 9.1?

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[expert] iptables question

2003-08-25 Thread Bill
Is there a file that holds the rules for ipitables that I can edit to add 
lines manually? I tried to google for it but with no luck. 

I need to set iptables to log matching ip addys to syslog so I can monitor 
how often I get a certain ip that trys to connect but is droped due to a rule 
I set.

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[expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-08-25 Thread lorne
I've done some searching and haven't found any previous traffic on this 
exactly. I have two problems. I'm beginning to think they may be related:

Copying files from my XP system to my 9.1 samba server is HORRIBLE! Say I'm 
copying 650mb of Wav files. We're talking an hour or so! Looking at the 
traces, everything seems ok. We're moving it along at 1514 chunks. 

Today I thought I'd do a smbmount back to the XP box and try it the other 
direction. For some reason my linux box is setting a window size of 0. ?? Has 
anyone else noticed the terrible performance with XP? Is this some BS that 
Uncle Billie and his gang of thieves have done on purpose, or am I just 
screwing something up. 

I have security set up pretty loose, so it shouldn't be some of the firewall 
products. 

smb.conf

[global]
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
load printers = yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
encrypt passwords = yes
wins support = true
dns proxy = no
netbios name = tigger2
server string = Samba Server %v
printing = cups
default = homes
workgroup = WORKGROUP
auto services = homes
printcap name = cups
security = user
preferred master = no
max log size = 50



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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Larry Sword
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

Tried this under the newbie list - didn't solve it.

I just want to print out (kedit or the printer icon I manually put on my KDE 
desktop) plain ASCI files without the header being appended to it by CUPS.

Anyone have any idea how to turn it off? I went thru KDEs control center and 
looked at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, but couldn't find anything relevant.

Thanks!

 

You need to review two docs: file:/usr/share/doc/cups/sum.html and "man 
lpoptions".
Look for "headers" and "prettyprint".

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Re: [expert] Mdk 9.1 & Pentium 4

2003-08-25 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday August 24 2003 07:16 pm, Philip Webb wrote:
> that's what i bought: a Barton 2500+ & a Soyo Dragon KT400 Ultra
> Black mobo. unfortunately, i ran into an obscure incompatibility
> between these items & my 8x AGP card when i tried to run with FSB
> = 166 MHz . a lengthy e-correspondence with Greg Meyer & Soyo
> support led me to return the mobo for attention & the latest news
> via the dealer is that these mobos have been recalled by Soyo &
> wb replaced. so i'm currently on hold, which doesn't matter a
> lot,
> as my present box has stopped making painful noises (one of
> Murphy's laws) & i'm not intending to migrate anyway till Mdk 9.2
> comes out next month.
>
> any other thoughts or comments are welcome.

   I was on the fence, needin to upgrade. The 2500+ thru the 3200+ 
is the same core, sorted for sale. Intel does the same thing. If 
you don't mind the extra bucks, the higher sorted chips have the 
better ns rated L (1 & 2) cache parts. Soyo boards are excellent, 
never a discouraging word from me. But the current champ for high 
end XP's is Aopen, kt400a (kt600) chipset, AMD recommended (as is 
Soyo, but they don't have a kt400_a_).

   'Not a puff, I bought it', it's the BEST' comment. IME, with VIA 
chipsets ..always wait for the 'a' version. Also IME, stay away 
from SiS or nForce* chipsets for Linux (jus read the LKML, _not_ 
Net windoze hardware site reviews). BTW, my old board was a Soyo 
k7vta pro, the board before it, a Soyo 6ba +III. I'm a Soyo fan. 
OTOH, before Soyo, I used an Aopen, now a...

Aopen AK77-400 Max, XP 3000+ overclocked to 3400+? (2288mhz),
cheap Kingston 512 MB ram at CL2.5, R/C 2, preCH 2, 2-bank (way 
over it's CL3-3-3, bank disabled specs), bios reports DDR419. Runs 
memtest86 til the cows come home, an L-cache 13,900mb/s, ram at 
708mb/s. mprime-17, cpuburn's 'burnK7' can't kill it either. Runnin 
current cooker (9.2 RC1). Vcore 1.75, AGP and IO volts are also 
+.10v bios adjusted and rock solid steady.

My point is tho, it all has to work together, includin the 
keyboard, mouse chair. Configuration is as important as the actual 
hardware. Look above, I seek the 'sweet spot' for what I've got. 
The cpu will clock to 2.4 ghz, the ram won't, but it does better 
than the damn nVidia card will. My limiting factor jus' now is my 
Abit nVidia junk. But, it can be configured/mitigated to a minor 
factor in bios. The same holds true even if you don't overclock.

   AGP, much less AGP 8x is a kludge. It's a PCI 2 spec with hyped 
up marketing terminology for DirectX Winblows users. Still runs on 
the old tired PCI 33mhz bus. Set your aperature to 4 to effectively 
disable sidebanding, bios and XFree to 1x (ie, minus kludges), an 
avoid the cruel marketing gimmicks for winsux users to spare 
yourself the grief.

   OTOH, I already had/have a tried an true Sparkle (AMD app'vd 
PSU). Don't blame Soyo, you could very well have a substandard 
power supply. You do monitor voltages for accuracy an steadiness, 
right?  An coolin?  Fancy cpu coolers are for the kiddies, jus keep 
the case at room temp an a generic cpu hs/fan will do jus' fine.
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Re: [expert] mc hang

2003-08-25 Thread Mark Williamson
Hmm  I deleted the start of this mail thread..   

Things that can cause mc to hang or stall   

badly configured /etc/hosts file..

having the a package tmdns installed..   which gets installed by default

problems with gpm   

Cheers
Mark


On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 13:36, David E. Fox wrote:
> > Right after boot and root login on tty1 it takes more than a minute for
> > mc to start on 9.1. Didn't have that problem on 9.0. On screen after mc
> 
> Expect a call from Ronald Mc Donald's attorney. "mc hang" indeed.
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[expert] Is hdparm -c3 /dev/hdX safe?

2003-08-25 Thread Jeremy Gregorio
   I've had some trouble with my cd writer lately, and I'm not sure if 
it's cause the drive is a little old or if it's because I've been using 
this option. I turned it on for all my drives, and got a nice speed 
boost for it (plus wineX games don't stutter when they hit the cd drive 
anymore :). I'm running mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21-0.13 on an Asus 
87N8X, and burning with k3b .9 using a sony CRX195E1 at 40x with no 
buffer underruns. I've had no troubles with my harddisks, but my 
cd-burner is making drink coasters. The files show up when the drive is 
mounted, and can even be copied off the disk, but are useless. It's 
mostly video, and mplayer can't play them (or strangly in one case 
couldn't seek in one of the files it could play). On some disks the 
files are fine, on some they're trash. Can anyone advise me on how 
dangerous this setting is? The drive isn't that old and I'd hate to 
replace a perfectly good drive, but it's possible it's dying. Thanks again.

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Re: [expert] Mdk 9.1 & Pentium 4

2003-08-25 Thread Philip Webb
030823 dfox wrote:
> Somebody scribbled about [expert] Mdk 9.1 & Pentium 4

that was me, a couple of months ago ... (puzzled look).

>> painful noises in the box, a 3-yr-old CPU (Celeron 466) & extra income
>> have brought me to the point of looking at buying a faster CPU
>> & an associated motherboard & upto-date memory.
> I still think athlon is a better choice.

that's what i bought: a Barton 2500+ & a Soyo Dragon KT400 Ultra Black mobo.
unfortunately, i ran into an obscure incompatibility between these items
& my 8x AGP card when i tried to run with FSB = 166 MHz .
a lengthy e-correspondence with Greg Meyer & Soyo support led me
to return the mobo for attention & the latest news via the dealer is
that these mobos have been recalled by Soyo & wb replaced.
so i'm currently on hold, which doesn't matter a lot,
as my present box has stopped making painful noises (one of Murphy's laws)
& i'm not intending to migrate anyway till Mdk 9.2 comes out next month.

any other thoughts or comments are welcome.

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Re: [expert] How to remove headers from printouts?

2003-08-25 Thread Philip Webb
030824 Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> I just want to print out (kedit or the printer icon
> I manually put on my KDE desktop) plain ASCI files
> without the header being appended to it by CUPS.
> Anyone have any idea how to turn it off? I went thru KDEs control center
> and looked at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, but couldn't find anything relevant.

on Linux, it's best to use the right tool for the job,
rather than trying to stick to an environment (as in M$ Windows).

use 'xpp filename' from a command-line in a terminal:
it gives you a lot of options for controlling how you print files
& should certainly not print a header unless you ask for one.

this is not a CUPS problem.

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